Deconstructing Comp

Deconstructing Comp

Breaking down the complex issues of workers' compensation into bite-sized nuggets, one conversation at a time. Yvonne Guibert and Rafael Gonzalez approach workers' comp conversations from very different backgrounds: marketing and legal! But they also share many things in common, such as their love for family and friends and a passion for Latin culture. Join them as they chat with industry friends and colleagues to learn more about their roles and have some fun along the way. See you soon! ¡Hasta pronto!


December 30, 2022 22 min

Yvonne and Rafael wrap up Season 2 of Deconstructing Comp with their thoughts about guests, lessons learned along the way, and considerations for Season 3. Workers' compensation may be a small industry, but it certainly has a vast pool of interesting professionals and endless issues to ponder. 

¡Muchas Gracias! Thank you for listening. We would appreciate you sharing our podcast with your friends on social media. Find Yvonne and...

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Jennifer Morris Jones, defense attorney, is an amazing leader in the workers' compensation and insurance industry.  A partner in Cranfill Sumner's Raleigh office, and a member of the Risk Management and Workers’ Compensation Practice Group, she is also a North Carolina Board Certified Workers’ Compensation Specialist.

If you know Jennifer, you know she spends a good deal of her time collaborating with others to speak about i...

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And it continues...

Just when you think we are done, we're not! Be sure to listen to the very end for rare "outtakes" that really should have been cut, but it's so damn funny we left it in. 

There's no way to describe this one. Kristen Chavez and Holmes Lilley definitely break the mold! 

In this episode, we get to know Kristen and Holmes and we chat about life, laughs, hard work, change, the workers' compensati...

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There's no way to describe this one. Kristen Chavez and Holmes Lilley definitely break the mold! 

In this episode, we get to know Kristen and Holmes and we chat about life, laughs, hard work, change, the workers' compensation industry, more laughs,  developing friendships, and working together to raise money for Kids' Chance of California. And did I say laugh? Yes, dear listener, you will laugh! There are plenty of laugh...

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October 28, 2022 43 min

We are so excited for you to meet our new friend Clerissa, a younger professional in our industry working for Injury Management Organization (IMO), based in the Dallas area of Texas. 

Kudos to Catherine Benavidez and IMO for recognizing Clerissa's talent, and making a spot for her to bring her on board with the company. She is a vibrant young woman putting herself out there, reaching for the stars, embracing servant leadership, ...

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¡Conozcamos a Rosa Royo en Miami! 

Now, in English...Let's get to know Rosa Royo in Miami!

Rosa Royo is one of the brightest leaders in the risk and insurance industry. Native to the Miami area, she loves the Miami culture, food, music, and art. 

She is Director, Workers' Compensation and Loss Prevention at Miami-Dade County Public Schools. It is the fourth-largest school district in the country and the second-biggest public e...

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September 21, 2022 36 min

Listen in as Yvonne and Rafael catch up with our good friend Barry Dillard, VP of Risk Management Services at Walt Disney World. Barry chats about what it was like coming back into the office after the pandemic, and a few other significant changes he experienced over the past couple of years, along with Disney cast members. 

Barry is a popular guy in our industry, and while he is very humble about his popularity, there are many folk...

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Join Yvonne and Rafael as they talk with Sabrina Taylor Mitchell, AVP Southeast Region of PMA Companies. 

Sabrina is full of surprises in this episode. Sharing about herself, her family, how she worked her way through school as a young mom, she charted a course for herself, and guess what? The course wasn't always traveling in a straight line. She chats about navigating loop-de-loops and curly q's. 

Sabrina is an amazing serv...

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Take some time with Yvonne and Rafael as they lean in and get to know the Honorable Jacqueline Steele. 

We talk to her about growing up in Tampa, getting her undergrad degree from the University of South Florida (go Bulls!), attending law school, and how a Moot Court Competition landed her in the workers' compensation industry. We also chat about some twists, some turns, and how a 25-year career results in lifelong friends. 

She ...

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Join us for a special treat with none other than Abbie Hudgens, Administrator for the Tennessee Bureau of Workers' Compensation. 

It's always a treat to talk with Abbie, a true southern belle and Tennessee native. However, she just announced her retirement effective August 31, so sharing time with her to discuss her career is truly a special treat. 

Yvonne and Rafael share a few laughs, learn a lot about Abbie, how she came t...

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June 22, 2022 49 min

In this episode, Yvonne and Rafael lean in hard to get to know Angel Guerra Chagolla, based in the Los Angeles Metropolitan Area.  

Where do we begin with Angel? You just have to listen to this episode. Angel is a perfect example of how you can come into this industry, start at ground level, and go all the way to the top. What does it take?  Curiosity, persistence,  grit, and the desire to make a difference. 

Angel shares her journey...

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Join us - Yvonne and Rafael - for a super fun episode where we get to know Dr. Geralyn Datz, Medical and Pain Psychologist and President of Southern Behavioral Medicine Associates, based in Hattiesburg, MS. 

Dr. Datz had us laughing from the very start. Spend a few minutes with us as we share a few laughs, discuss how she came to be in the workers' comp industry, get a brief review of her career, and more. 

You'll find that n...

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Dr. Claire Muselman is back! 

We are happy to welcome back Dr. Claire Muselman to our podcast. So much has changed since the last time she was on the show. 

Yvonne and Rafael share some laughs as we catch up with Dr. Claire on some important changes in her career and life. 

Now taking on risk management as chief risk officer with Emory Industrial, Dr. Claire explains some of the fascinating changes she has managed over the past year. 


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Yvonne and Rafael talk with Donna Check, co-founder of NeuLife Rehabilitation based in Mt. Dora, Florida. 

Donna talks with us about growing up in Long Island, what she studied in school, how she ended up in the workers' comp industry, and why she decided to pursue a career in brain and spinal cord injury rehabilitation.  Of course, there are many interesting stories that she shares with us along the way. 

Grab your headphones an...

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April 15, 2022 45 min

In this episode, Yvonne and Rafael chat with Bill Minick, a Texas attorney, risk management consultant, and pioneer of Texas injury benefit management programs. Some people refer to this kind of program as a workers' comp "opt-out" program. He is the founder and former chairman of PartnerSource, the leading provider of responsible alternatives to traditional workers’ compensation for businesses operating in the state of...

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In this episode, we get to know Patrick Robinson, VP of Government Affairs at ODG (an MCG Health Company). 

Patrick shares his interesting career path from an attorney in Shreveport, Louisiana to administrator and judge, WCRI, now with ODG, and some of the things he has learned along the way. He also chats about grandkids, his Latin connections, and a few things he did during the pandemic. 

Plus, we have a first, ladies and gents! Pa...

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March 16, 2022 39 min

In this episode we get to know Debra Livingston, President and CEO of ReEmployability based in Tampa, Florida. 

ReEmployability, founded in 2003, offers employers a proprietary return to work program, Transition2Work, a cost-effective solution to modified light duty assignments, and reduces workers’ compensation and non-occupational disability claim costs while giving the injured worker time to heal and benefiting the community. 


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March 3, 2022 33 min

In this episode, we get to know John Ruser, President and CEO at Workers' Compensation Research Institute (WCRI). According to the WCRI website, WCRI was founded in 1983 and they are an independent not-for-profit research organization which strives to help those interested in making improvements to the workers' compensation system by providing highly-regarded, objective data and analysis.  

You are in for a special treat! Yv...

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February 23, 2022 49 min

Yvonne and Rafael catch up with Alex Swedlow, President of California Workers' Compensation Institute (CWCI).

According to their website, CWCI provides data, practical analyses and real-world expertise on issues and trends affecting California workers' compensation. Many look to CWCI's research as an indicator of important trends and issues in the workers' compensation space, as California is such a large, unique an...

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Join Yvonne and Rafael as they kick off Season 2 of Deconstructing Comp with none other than Joe Paduda, industry expert, speaker and blogger, author of the Managed Care Matters blog. 

Joe is one of the foremost experts in the workers' compensation industry. Yvonne and Rafael catch up with Joe as he discusses how he landed in our industry, what he's been up to lately, and what we should be looking at in terms of important is...

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