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Welcome to a riveting conversation with Catherine Austin Fitts, a remarkable woman who (for 15 years) personally litigated against the Department of Justice and the IRS, and emerged victorious. Catherine shares her story of attempting to bring financial transparency to the US government, and her resulting discoveries of covert operations, genocide, and plunder capitalism. We discussed the comprehensive nature of central bankers' desire to control every aspect of our lives, which among other things, necessitated the development of entrainment technologies and the infiltration of religious institutions.

We delve into the World Economic Forum's dystopian predictions for 2030, the sovereign immunity established for 76 international institutions that covertly run the world, and the monetary black hole of the Bank for International Settlements, and its 63 member banks around the world, including the Federal Reserve. We covered the real story of 9/11 and the State of Israel, the weaponization of social media, the looming specter of unsustainable national debt, the open borders problem, and the uni-party push for a digital ID system and financial transaction control. We also talked about Trump and taxes, voters beware.

This holistic perspective on global challenges emphasizes the necessity of unity and local action. Most importantly, we outlined a framework for reclaiming local sovereignty, encouraging listeners to build resilient, self-sufficient communities by filling seven key roles. Despite the gravity of today's challenges, Catherine and I remain hopeful. Welcome to a strategic and disruptive grassroots movement that can provide a believable blueprint to restore our freedoms.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello everyone, welcome to episode number 38.
This is the seventh episode inmy Sovereignty series and it may
go down as my favoriteinterview of all time.
The conversation I'm about toplay for you is with one of the
most amazing people I have evermet, katherine Austin Fitz.
I had the honor of hosting herfor a meet and greet for
subscribers to her business, theSolaria Report, and she was

(00:23):
gracious to let us extend hervisit to include a VIP dinner
for local movers and shakers,and after that we hosted a
discussion open to the publicabout what's really going on in
the world and what we can doabout it.
As those of you who have beenfollowing my work now starting
in late 2021, my wife and Ispent about 18 months building a
program we called theSovereignty Project.

(00:45):
It started as a personalmission to disentangle from the
weaponized systems we realizedwere working to take away our
freedom, and Catherine's visitwas the impetus to present a
blueprint for how people in ourlocal areas I think cities and
counties can come togetheraround the shared values of a
local church and find the peopleto fill seven key roles needed

(01:07):
to create a hub of freedom thatis a bulwark against the
societal meltdown we seehappening around us.
I took a few moments toward theend of our time on stage to
cast a vision for how the peoplein our area could come together
and friends.
It is exciting.
There is a motivated group ofpeople here who have been hungry
for what we can do to stop thedecay around us.

(01:28):
We've all been aware that wecan't solve this problem on our
own, and now we have a plan thatleverages the breadth of our
strengths.
We actually have a believableplan to cut off all these
globalist attack vectors anddemonstrate a model for how
other areas around the countrymight come together and do the
same thing to make thisglobalist agenda dissolve into

(01:50):
irrelevance.
The changes we all want to seeare not going to come from the
top down.
It is going to come from thegrassroots, and that's really
what we are working on here.
So if that's something you'reinterested in, stick around to
the end and I'll post a link inthe show notes where you can see
the visual I presented at theevent and learn more about the
Sovereignty Project 2.0.
The next thing I'll say is thatif you have friends who don't

(02:12):
know who Katherine Austin Fitzis, or you know people who are
just kind of starting to wake upto what's really going on in
the world, this interview mightbe the perfect thing to send
them.
I'll also post a link in theshow notes to our Odyssey
channel where you can watch therecording of this event as well,
and there's gonna be a fewsnippets if you want to see a
few pieces of it.
So Catherine, I can say has, isone of the most remarkable and

(02:35):
unique stories you can imagine.
She may be the only person inthe world certainly the only one
I know of who went to battlewith both the Department of
Justice and the IRS and beatboth of them in court.
She spent about 15 years of herlife doing that litigation,
which was prompted by themraiding her business and seizing

(02:55):
all her intellectual propertybecause she was committing the
crime of bringing transparencyto where the government money
was flowing, and transparency isnot something those in power
appreciate.
So through that process, as youcan imagine, catherine got a
real world up close and personaleducation in deep state tactics
.
She knows what she's talkingabout because she has lived it.

(03:19):
She was even poisoned multipletimes in an effort to take her
out.
So fair warning, this isprobably the largest number of
controversial topics I've talkedabout in one episode and, true
to my podcast's promise, thisepisode is sure to stretch your
thinking.
After a discussion ofCatherine's amazing background,
we discussed the central bankobjectives of digital

(03:41):
enslavement and financialtransaction control.
We discussed the concept ofplunder capitalism to give you
eyes to see where the powersthat be are working to weaken
your purchasing power andstealthily steal your assets.
Yes, friends, that is reallyhappening.
We discussed the open borderproblem and the composting of
the American people.

(04:01):
Catherine tells a fascinatingstory about her experience right
before and after 9-11.
That one got a rowdy responsefrom the crowd.
We also talked about theinfiltration of the Catholic and
Protestant churches.
We talked about eschatology,which is just a fancy word for
the study of the end times, and,side note, I misspoke on the
title of one of the books Ireferenced.

(04:22):
The title is actually calledShepherds for Sale, not
Shepherds for Hire.
Anyway, that led into thoughtsabout Netanyahu and what's going
on in Israel and Gaza.
We talked about Trump and taxesand crypto and homeschooling,
mind control tactics and evenmore topics in the Q&A, and I
included those questions in herefor you as well.
So admittedly, I'm biased, butI think this is one of the best

(04:45):
interviews I have ever heardCatherine give, and I've heard a
lot of them.
We even got a standing ovationwhen we were done.
I can tell you that she isamazing and, despite all we
covered, her and I are bothstill optimistic about the
future If we can come together.
We are far from powerless tostop what's happening.
On another side note, if youwant a deeper dive into a lot of

(05:06):
what Catherine and I talkedabout, you might check out the
first episode in my Sovereigntyseries, which is episode 32,
where I did my best to lay outthe history of how we got to
what we are living through today.
One other small note is thatthere's about three times during
the interview where therecording hiccuped for a second
or two, so you'll hear a couplejumps in the audio, but it's not
enough to lose your train ofthought.

(05:26):
The last thing I'll mention isthat, since I knew we were going
to talk about some weighty,controversial and even
polarizing topics, I did my bestto set the audience up to stay
focused on what unites us ratherthan what divides us.
So if you've craved a way toget to these kind of topics with
people you care about, I hopeyou'll find something helpful in

(05:50):
the way I set us up so you canbe part of getting more of these
discussions going where youlive.
The last thing I'll say is thatCatherine is even more amazing
in person than she is on video.
She is not just a deeplyfascinating person, she's also a
deeply fascinated person.
She loves learning and you cantell she just genuinely cares
about people.
She is so kind and humble, andif you ever get a chance to meet
her or hear her speak in person, do not miss it.

(06:11):
Okay, friends, take a deepbreath, put on your best
level-headed thinking caps andget ready for a feast of clarity
and empowerment and hope.
As with any episode, I'd loveto hear what you think, and if
you want to follow the work weare doing here in the Florida
Panhandle, just make sure tosubscribe to our newsletter at
healingunitedtoday.
There's a link for you in theshow notes, and you can learn

(06:32):
more about Catherine atsolaricom.
Without further ado, here is mydiscussion with the one and only
gem of a human, catherineAustin Fitz.
All right, well, welcome to anevent that's been near and dear
to my heart for a long time, andI didn't have an excuse to pull
it off until Catherine AustinFitz came to town, and I'm just

(06:52):
delighted to be here with you.
We titled this talk thisevening or this you get to
basically sit in on a podcastinterview.
Catherine and I are just goingto talk amongst friends up here
on these chairs, but we titledthis discerning Truth in a
Post-COVID World, and I thinkyou guys have figured out by now
.
We're kind of surrounded by afog of lies and distractions and

(07:14):
it's almost like we're walkinga path at night and it's dark
and a lightning bolt goes offand we're like was that a stick
or a snake?
I don't know what I just saw.
I don't know if I'm supposed tobe afraid of that or if I
should be calm, that it was onlya stick.
And there's this giant spectrumof doom bloggers who think the
world's going to end and what Icall hopium dispensers on the

(07:38):
other end, who are people whojust, you know, john F Kennedy
Jr is about to come back andwe're all going to be freed from
the IRS and from the Fed andall the debt's going to go away.
And there's just figuring outwho to trust and what's true and
what's not is essentially whatwe're trying to figure out.
Sun Tzu said all warfare isbased on deception.

(08:00):
There are people who don't wantus to know what they're doing.
They're not typically going tobroadcast their plans.
They're going to do it insneaky ways and they'll talk to
this audience this way and thisaudience this way, and I'll tell
you something different, allwedging you to the same outcome.
So one thing I'll tell you iswe're going to talk about some
hopeful things here tonight, butbefore I can get to that, we

(08:20):
got to talk about some reallyugly, uncomfortable things, and
I'm so grateful to Vision Churchfor having the courage to host
an event like this, because someof these topics are kind of
like I don't know if we shouldtalk about that in a church.
And if we can't talk about ithere, where can we talk about it
?
These are supposed to be God'speople wrestling with truth, and

(08:41):
we know we've been distracted alot.
So how do we see through thatfog?
So I hope what we can do withthis night is approach it with a
deep sense of humility None ofus knows everything.
Curiosity or fascination likewhoa is that really how that
works?
And to do that with asturdiness of mind, to be able
to hold competing ideas in ourhead and be like, okay, maybe

(09:03):
that would imply differentthings, depending on what's
actually true there.
If we can exist in thatheadspace, I think we're going
to have a fun time.
So I'll say for this eveningtake the meat and leave the
bones.
If there's something Catherineor I say and you're like I don't
know about that, okay, maybeyou can discard the bone, but
there's meat here.
And I think we can all agreethat we like the Constitution,

(09:23):
we like freedom and we have somuch more in common than the
puppeteers who try to keep usdivided.
So quick introduction who am Iand why am I on this stage?
My name is Christian Elliott.
I am, I guess, a professionalmutt you could call me.
I've got a bachelor's inreligion and theology.
I've got a master's of divinityfrom seminary.

(09:43):
I've got a health coachingbackground for the last 20 years
and I got sucked into thefreedom fight because of COVID
and I wrote an article 18Reasons I Won't Be Getting a
COVID Vaccine, which went viralbeyond my wildest expectations.
Some of you may be already likeoh, that topic, yeah, that one.
I wrote that article and it dida lot of things.
But one cool thing it did wasintroduce me to a lot of really

(10:06):
cool people in what became themedical or health freedom fight
and in so doing I met a lot ofpeople who inspired me.
And then I've seen and watchedtheir journey over the last few
years and some of them not allof them some people I used to
really trust, I kind of don'tanymore.
I've seen some of the ways theyhave been co-opted or coerced

(10:27):
or they've become malleable andthe point there is that any one
of us, but for the grace of God,can be wooed into or drift away
from our principles or fromwhat got us started in what we
were doing.
So my work right now is kind ofas a I guess, a master
generalist.
I get to collect people who'vebeen wrung out by the medical

(10:50):
system or people who've been letdown by the inflated promises
of the alternative world, andwhen I have permission to go
help the whole person, when Ican think holistically about it,
I can darn near raise the debt,because it's not as complicated
to get someone.
Well, if you can actually goafter the root problem.
And I've taken that approach tothe sick globalist agenda that

(11:12):
we're facing and like, okay,where can we back up and not be
under their spell?
Where can we not be under theirthumb?
And so I'm a weird generalistin a world of what I call
partialists.
Now I've taken the special outof specialist and just more, I
think, accurately framed whatthey do.
They focus on a part of theproblem instead of the whole
thing, and so what I hope to dotonight is that we can take that

(11:34):
approach to step back and lookat this fog of lies that we're
in and say what is going on inthe big picture.
If we start to get that right,I think we can do some great
things.
So I want to give us, just tomake sure we're on the same page
and recognize how much we agreeon.
I'll give you 10 quickquestions here, so we'll just

(11:54):
kind of read the room and see ifwe don't have a lot in common.
So is there anybody here whothinks the media doesn't lie to
us?
Media is always truthful, okay.
Is there anyone here who thinksyou get unbiased search results
on the internet?
No, okay.
Does there anyone here thatthinks you know people would
never weaponize social mediaagainst the populace, or

(12:16):
especially against kids?
Anybody think that?
No, okay.
How many of you think oureducation system would never
intentionally erase our historyand rewrite it?
Okay?
Is there anyone here who thinksit would be impossible to
blackmail, coerce or bribepoliticians, celebrities or even

(12:36):
clergy, and to do it at scale?
Okay, so far, so good.
Does anybody here think we'dnever start jailing people for
criticizing the government?
Have you seen January 6th?
Do you see what's happening inthe United Kingdom right now?
Right, okay.
Is there anyone here who thinks$35 trillion of debt is

(12:59):
sustainable?
Is there anybody here whothinks the people who borrowed
that money have any intent topay it back?
Nope, okay.
Is there anyone here who thinksthe open border is no big deal
and it's only the best andbrightest that are being bused
into our cities, including thisone?
No, okay.
Last one Is there anybody herewho thinks evil doesn't exist or

(13:24):
that psychopaths would neverget organized to systematically
steal, kill and destroy?
They wouldn't work at a systemslevel to do what they can't do
individually?
Or would that be exactly whatwe would expect from people in
the fog of war?
That's what we're up against.
So I think that we can say thatquestion everything is a pretty
healthy motto, and what I don'twant to do is get us so worked

(13:47):
up that we're looking for ademon behind every bush.
But I also don't want us to beso blind to it and like it's
uncomfortable so I don't want tolook at it.
I think there's a middle hereand we're going to do our best
to strike that balance tonight.
So Catherine and I are going togive you our opinions, and
they're our opinions.
We're not speaking for VisionChurch, we're not speaking for
anybody but ourselves, but we'regoing to do our best to give
you a perspective, and so what Ihope to do, there's three

(14:11):
things I hope this talkaccomplishes, or this dialogue
accomplishes.
So one is to to borrowCatherine's phrase to help us
develop a more accurate map ofreality.
If we can't see what's happeningto us, we're likely to drive
right into that sinkhole.
Can't see what's happening tous, we're likely to drive right
into that sinkhole.
If we can, there's a lot betterchance we can avoid it.

(14:31):
So that's number one.
The second thing is to castsome vision.
I did a little bit of this inthe VIP dinner we just had and
just to help us think about thisugly systems level reality,
like we don't have to stay stuckin that if we come together.
And third, hopefully this eventwill be a springboard into
taking some of us who have themaybe you're empty nester
retiree, you've got time on yourhands and we need help and you
can come, bring your skills tothis project of establishing

(14:54):
some sovereignty here in thePanhandle.
So we have quite a crosssection of ages, stages,
perspectives and skills in thisroom.
So I'm going to give, I'm goingto play, I'm going to show you
guys a cartoon, two, a quote andtwo videos to kind of, as
quickly as possible, set thestage for where we are.

(15:18):
So, gwen, if you can bring upthat cartoon Bosses of the
Senate.
I don't know if you guys hasanybody seen that cartoon Bosses
of the Senate.
Bosses of the Senate.
I don't know if you guys hasanybody seen that cartoon Bosses
of the Senate.
So right here this.
Take a guess.
Anybody know what year thatcartoon was published?
1889.
Very good, somebody gets oneyear off.
That's from 1889.

(15:40):
The bosses, those giantmonopolists.
If you see the top, this is theSenate of the monopolists, by
the monopolists and for themonopolists.
You notice the people'sentrance is locked shut and
these little tiny humans that wethink we elect are really just
bossed around by the big guysthat control the money flows and
tell them what they're supposedto do.
All right, so keep that imagein your mind as we go through

(16:02):
tonight.
Okay, next one, gwen, go aheadand bring up for me the Montague
Norman quote.
So if you guys don't know whoMontague Norman was, he was the
head of the Bank of England.
You got that one, gwen.
Wait for it.
I've darn near got this thingmemorized because I've read it

(16:23):
so many times, but this is a guy, so I'll go ahead and spoil it.
This was set in 1924.
Ironically, 100 years to themonth where the 100-year
anniversary this month of thequote she's about to bring up.
You can't find it, okay, wellthen I will just wing it and

(16:45):
hope she can find it.
So, montague Norman, head ofthe Bank of England, 1924.
This is post the World War I.
They're about to engineer theGreat Depression and World War
II.
And there we go, montagueNorman.
Okay, I added the part bracketsat the beginning.
Our control of capital mustprotect itself in every possible
way, both by combination andlegislation.

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Debts must be collected,mortgages foreclosed as rapidly
as possible.
When, through the process oflaw, the common people lose
their homes, they will becomedocile and more easily governed
through the strong arm ofgovernment applied through the
central power of wealth underleading financiers.
Arm of government appliedthrough the central power of
wealth under leading financiers.

(17:27):
These truths are well knownamong our principal men who are
now engaged in forming animperialism to govern the world.
Does that sound a bit likewhat's happening today?
All right, okay, next slide.
So there's Mr Montague Norman onthe cover of Time Magazine.
He goes on to say by dividingthe voters through the political
party system, we can get themto expend their energies in
fighting for questions of noimportance.

(17:49):
It is thus, by discrete action,we can ensure for ourselves
sorry, not you guys so wellplanned and so successfully
accomplished.
Ouch, that's how a globalist orthat's how a central banker
thinks.
Their control of the moneysupply and what you and I have
to exchange with is power.

(18:10):
It gives them the ability totell us what rules we have to
play by and who can have accessto it and where it goes.
And so much of our monetarysystem now is dark.
We don't even know where mostof it's going.
That's how those guys think.
Okay, that's number two.
Number three Gwen, if you canplay the World Economic Forum
video.
So if you guys missed thisdisgusting piece of vision

(18:34):
casting put out by the WorldEconomic Forum for their
prediction of what the worldwill look like by 2030, that
would be this next video.
So it's about a minute and ahalf, and see if this does.
Literally.
When I first saw this video, itviscerally turned my stomach.
I was like, oh my gosh, here itis.

(18:54):
So this part of the event didnot have any spoken words, so I
just figured I'd read you whatwas on the screen that the
people were seeing.
So here are the eight.
I'd like you what was on thescreen that the people were
seeing.
So here are the eight I like topoint out.
There's actually ninepredictions that the World
Economic Forum gave us for whatthe world will look like by 2030
.
Prediction number one you'llown nothing and you'll be happy.
Prediction number twoeverything you want, you'll rent

(19:17):
and it will be delivered bydrone.
Prediction number three the USwon't be the world's leading
superpower.
A handful of countries willdominate.
Prediction number four youwon't die waiting for an organ.
We won't transplant organs.
We'll print new ones.
Prediction number five you'lleat much less meat an occasional

(19:39):
treat, not a staple for thegood of the environment and our
health.
Prediction number six a billionpeople will be displaced by
climate change.
We'll have to do a better jobof welcoming and integrating
refugees.
Prediction number sevenpolluters will have to pay to
emit carbon dioxide.
There will be a global price oncarbon.

(20:01):
This will help make fossilfuels history.
Prediction number eight youcould be preparing to go to Mars
.
Scientists will have worked outhow to keep you healthy in
space, the start of a journey tofind alien life.
And bonus prediction numbernine Western values will have
been tested to the breakingpoint.
Checks and balances thatunderpin our democracies must

(20:23):
not be forgotten.
So if you want a deeper diveinto these, I took on all nine
of these in episode 32 and gaveyou my thoughts on them so you
can go back and reference thatif you'd like a little bit more
on those.
But now back to the episode.
Anybody want to give that athumbs up, like comment share,
as if that's something we allwant to sign up for.

(20:45):
So we're going to talk in asecond Like they're literally.
Their goal is that, by the time2030 gets here, you don't own a
thing, and they don't mean likeyour car, your house.
They mean like your toaster andyour shirt, your living room.
They published that as anarticle in 2016, but it's 2030.
I own nothing and I've neverbeen happier, was the headline.

(21:06):
So that's where some sickpeople are trying to take us All
right.
Last video, and this is if youwere at the VIP dinner, you
already saw this one.
This is I refer to as Jabba theHutt.
This is Augustin Carstenstalking at the Bank for
International Settlement.
You can think of the Bank forInternational Settlement.
You can think of the Bank for.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
International Settlements, Our analysis on
CBDC, in particular for the useof general to the general use,
and there is a huge difference.
For example, we don't know, forexample, who is using a $100
bill today.
We don't know who is using a$1,000 bill today.

(21:46):
A key difference with the CBDCis that central bank will have
absolute control on the rulesand regulations that will
determine the use of thatexpression, of central bank
liability, and also we will havethe technology to enforce that.

(22:07):
Those two issues are extremelyimportant and that makes a huge
difference with respect to whatcash is.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
Yeah.
So the World Economic Forumfailed to mention what they're
going to do with the money, so Ithought we'd go straight to the
head of the snake and hear fromhim.
The Bank for InternationalSettlements is a hub and a
63-spoke wheel where money canjust go into that black hole and
disappear and nobody knowswhere it goes.
The Bank for InternationalSettlements is literally its own
country.
It has its own flag, its ownpolice force.

(22:40):
They operate outside the lawsof any nation and somehow they
convinced the government ofSwitzerland to give, and somehow
they convinced the governmentof Switzerland to give them that
privilege.
Ouch, so that's the guy thatwants to tell the rest of us
what money is.
Because there's this grossthing called cash and you guys
are using it and they don't knowwhat you're doing and they want
to stop that.
So I'm going to bring upsomebody who can explain this

(23:01):
way better than me.
So, catherine, come up here onthe stage.
I need to decrease, she needsto increase.
So welcome the lovely CatherineAustin Fitz to the stage.
Thank you, christian, you'rewelcome, all right.
So what I wanted her to dofirst is just a lot of you, I
know, do not know who she is andsay what?
I'll move the podium.
You guys can't see.

(23:22):
Yeah, thank you, jojo.
Okay, put this over here.
So a lot of you don't know whoCatherine Austin Fitz is and I
think by the time you're doneyou'd be like why have I never
heard of this woman?
So, catherine, give us yourbackground, your story, and get
maybe the five to 10 minuteversion of who you are and your

(23:42):
experience in the government,managing money, et cetera.

Speaker 4 (23:44):
Okay, so I grew up in Philadelphia and graduated from
university I went to WallStreet and became a partner and
member of the board of DylanReed and Company.
If you can read all about it, Ipublished an online book called
Dylan Reed and the Aristocracyof Stock Profits and I left the.
We sold the firm in 86 and thenhad non-compete contracts.

(24:09):
When they came off, I went intothe Bush administration.
A lot of people from Dylan Reedwent into the first Bush
administration and I wasassistant secretary of housing,
fha commissioner, so I wasresponsible for the mortgage
insurance programs and startedto uncover the extraordinary
amount of mortgage fraud goingon in the country.
I left and started a company.

(24:30):
I discovered the internet when Iwas in the administration and I
realized we can use thistechnology to bring transparency
to government flows incommunities, and communities and
small business can make a lotof money facilitating investment
both locally and gettinggovernment money out, because
government money comes with ahuge amount of controls and

(24:54):
terms and conditions that reallydrain prosperity from
communities.
So we started a company.
The company was very successfuland the company was so
successful the Department ofJustice seized our offices and
stole the software because theydidn't want transparency.
So we had a software toolcalled Community Wizard.

(25:15):
You could dial into theInternet and you could say, ok,
my neighborhood is my county ormy neighborhood is my zip code,
or my neighborhood is mycongressional district, and you
could start to see how the moneyworked and what you would see
if you dug into the money is andI used this example this
afternoon we were spending$250,000 to build public housing
when $50,000 would buy andrehab a single-family home in

(25:37):
the same neighborhood.
So there were unbelievable whatI call financial arbitrages.
There were unbelievable what Icall financial arbitrages.
Another example is you couldfind neighborhoods where you
were paying $125 to $500 perhour to a defense contractor to
do something that could beteleported into that community
for and somebody would love todo the job for $30 plus health

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care.
So there were tremendousopportunities using the Internet
and new technology to literallyget government money out of
neighborhoods but to makecommunities much, much more
prosperous.
Anyway, so that was a politicalproblem because there was a
group of people, as describedhere, that wanted to centralize
control of the economy and I wastrying to decentralize.

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So I ended up litigating withthe Department of Justice for 11
years and I told the story thisafternoon.
Somebody used to say who herehas seen the movie Enemy of the
State?
This woman played Will Smith inreal life and it was a very
immersive process.
We had 18 audits andinvestigations, 12 tracks of
litigation, physical harassment,all sorts of smear campaigns.

(26:46):
If you come to, I now publishthe Solari Report.
I have a series called DeepState Tactics 101, because I got
quite an education.
It was a remarkable education.
Anyway, miracle of miracles, wewon the litigation after 11
years.
I then spent four yearsfighting with the IRS.
We won that too.
And then I started twocompanies.

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During the litigation I'd had togo public.
I was an investment banker, avery private person, but I would
get to win the litigation.
I had to go public and Istarted to do radio shows and
I'd had terrible experienceswhen I was in Washington with
the Washington Post, new YorkTimes, which convinced me that
they were criminal enterprises.
I just said that's it.

(27:31):
I'll have nothing more to dowith corporate media.
So I would give out my emailand I would say if you have a
question for me, just email yourquestion.
And over time, over many years,those questions grow into two
business.
One is the Solaria Report,where our tagline is live a free
and inspired life, and our goalis to help people understand
what's going on in the world sothey don't get taken advantage

(27:53):
of by financial fraud, by healthfraud, by the hope porn, the
fear porn.
Our job is to help you get amap so that you can live a free
and inspired life.
We believe your purpose is yourpurpose, but we want to help
you get a map so that you canlive a free and inspired life.
We believe your purpose is yourpurpose, but we want to help
you build wealth and besuccessful around your purpose,
including ducking the scudmissiles when they come in.
So that's the Solari Report,which is really a media business

(28:17):
.
And then the other business wasan investment advisory business
.
I did investment advisory for 10years, which has now evolved
into a screen company.
The regulation was so extremeand invasive I felt the
government essentially wanted meto dig out all the data on my
clients and give it to them andI said, no, I'm not doing that.

(28:37):
So I stopped being aninvestment advisor.
But I saw so much about thecost of a lie to a family.
I saw families.
You know, in the process ofbeing an investment advisor I
worked with hundreds of familiesand I realized one lie about
health care, one lie aboutfinancial fraud can literally

(28:59):
destroy and devastate a family,and it really committed me to
having integrity and trying mybest to tell the truth.
On the salaried report, we justtry and really just stick with
the truth, no matter how unusualor uncomfortable it is, because
what every family needs is theyneed an honest map of reality.

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I always tell people you needto know the official narrative
and then you need to knowreality.
And the official narrative isfor the cocktail party and
reality is for the investment ofyour time and money.
I don't want you to use realityat the cocktail party if it's
not appropriate because youcould lose your friends, and I
don't want you to use theofficial narrative to invest

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your time and money because youcould lose your life or you
could lose all your money.
So we like to provide both, andso now we have subscribers all
over the world.
We are exceptionally concernedabout the push for total central
control by controlling yourfinancial transactions.
You just heard AugustineCarstens speak about the central

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banker's desire to assertcomplete control.
I call it a financialtransactions.
You just heard AugustineCarstens speak about the central
banker's desire to assertcomplete control.
I call it a financial coup.
So instead of there being abalance of power between the
central bankers running monetarypolicy and allowing the
people's representatives to runfiscal policy and taxation, the
bankers are hoping to use anall-digital financial system to

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literally take over and controlthe fiscal side of the house and
taxation without representationas well.
And if we've grown up and beenblessed with freedom the way we
all have, it's very hard toimagine that a group of people
would want this kind of control.
But it is literally a level ofcontrol that is a slavery system

(30:47):
, because they can then dictate.
So imagine if the pandemichappened again today.
They can literally dictate thatyour money cannot work If they
say you can't go five miles fromyour home.
Beyond five miles, your moneywon't work, your bank account
won't work, your credit cardwon't work.
If they don't want you eating acertain kind of food, your

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money won't work to buy thatfood.
We did a publication on pharmafood and synthetic lab-grown
meat.
It's the most horrible thing Iever read and I realized oh, the
marketing plan for this isfinancial transaction control,
because the only reason anybodywould eat this is because it's
all their money will buy.
So we started a year ago to dosomething called the Financial

(31:31):
Transaction Freedom Tour, whereI'm essentially traveling around
Europe and the United Statestalking with people with all the
things we can do, because thisis not inevitable, it doesn't
have to happen, but there's agreat deal of things we can do.
One of the things we can dothis year is make sure that we
don't get persuaded to adopt adigital ID on the theory.

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That's what we need to solvethe immigration problem or
that's what we need to solve theelection fraud.
We don't need a digital ID, andwe certainly.
You know we ran the border andprotected our borders before
digital technology existed.
We had elections before digitaltechnology existed.
You know, my ancestors havelived on this planet for

(32:15):
thousands of years without manyof these different systems.
So don't be persuaded, becausea digital ID is the condition
precedent to getting completefinancial transaction control.
Once you have a digital ID,whether they do it with
MasterCard, a Visa or a CBDC,there are many different ways to
do it.
If they go to an all-digitalsystem with a digital ID, we are

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now talking about completecontrol, where literally the
bankers have complete control ofdictating how we live, where we
live, what we eat, what we do,and many people say well, I have
no assets, I have nothing tolose.
You do have something to loseyou have your children and your
grandchildren, and they canliterally take them too.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
So this is really happening Right, there are
people trying to do this.
So, so, this is reallyhappening Right, there are
people trying to do this.
So, catherine, go back to thatWorld Economic Forum video with
us where they say it's 2030, youown nothing and you're happy.
It sounds, on the surface, soimplausible that that would be
something, one that somebodywould be working toward, but two
that they could actually pullit off.

(33:21):
So help us see these unseenhands that they could actually
pull it off.
So help us see these unseenhands.
Help us see what we may notquite notice in the way our
money is being manipulated andleading us to the seizure of our
assets.

Speaker 4 (33:31):
So remember that particular slogan was targeted
at young people.
So they are very clear thatsomebody who's worked their
whole life and has lots ofretirement savings is not going
to be happy.
But I want to talk a little bitabout that how you're going to
be happy.
Part In 1984, and this is whatstarted me on this journey I

(33:54):
overheard a conversation Iwasn't supposed to hear and it
was.
I was on Wall Street, I wasvery successful and I heard two
billionaire types talking aboutentrainment technology and
subliminal programming that wasgoing to be rolled out on TV.
And that was the moment I wenthome and that was it for me and
TV.
I gave away the TV andentrainment.

(34:15):
The way entrainment technologyworks is it makes you feel good
and then the subliminalprogramming puts ideas into your
consciousness and or into yoursemi-conscious and it's
basically mind control.
It's it's changing what wethink, how we think, and it's
very, very strong and it's beenprogressively becoming more and

(34:37):
more integrated into our media,our smartphones, our smart
digital TVs.
You know it can come in throughthe wifi-Fi.
If you come to Soleri.
We have a couple of collectionscalled you put in mind control.
On the search engine you'll getthe mind control collection.
And I originally created thembecause I gave a presentation in

(34:57):
Memphis and a group ofgrandparents came up to me and
said we're so concerned aboutour grandchildren.
They're literally you know,they want to.
You know, at 10 years old theywant to change their sex.
What is happening to ourchildren?
And so I said, look, I'm goingto have to explain neurological
weaponry.
It's real and you need tounderstand.

(35:19):
When you give a child asmartphone, okay, who here has
not seen a James Bond movie?
Has everybody seen a James Bondmovie?
Okay, Do you know who Spectreis in the James Bond movie?
Spectre is the global organizedcrime syndicate.
And who was it?
Blofeld, the guy who looks likeKlaus Schwab, was the.
You know Goldfinger was Blofeld, was the.

(35:41):
You know the evildoer that ran.
Okay, so we all know whoSpectre is.
When you give a child asmartphone, you are giving
Spectre 24-7 access to yourchildren's or your
grandchildren's subconscious.
Okay, and they are using thataccess.

(36:03):
And you know they use thataccess.
How many children disappearedin the United States last year?
Over 100,000?
140,000, I think somebody saidyesterday.
You know they are using thatliterally to kidnap and traffic
children.
So when you give a child asmartphone, realize when they

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say well, all my friends have it.
Do you really want Spectre tohave access to your child or
your grandchild?
But that's the kind of you'rebasically giving them a tool
that those forces can use, usingneurological weaponry, to
brainwash your kids andgrandkids.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
Yeah, If you guys haven't seen the documentary the
Social Dilemma, you might checkthat out.
The people who built all thesocial media platforms won't
give their kids access to thoseplatforms because they know what
Wood's website called OmniWar.
It's going to be September 21stand just sign up.

Speaker 4 (37:09):
It's free and it's by the top group of scholars in
the world studying howcontrolled technology like this
works.
It's called OmniWar and it'sgoing to be excellent.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
Okay, so, okay.
Next topic.
So you've talked about theglobalist coup You've talked
about.
There's a story you've toldmany times about a conversation
where somebody told you no,you're too late, they're giving
up on the country, they'removing the money out and up
until 2015, I think it was wehave $21 trillion missing from
the federal books, and that'sroughly $65,000 per person in

(37:44):
the country.
The federal books, and that'sroughly $65,000 per person in
the country.
So you, your kids, everyone inyour family.

Speaker 4 (37:53):
They've stolen roughly $65,000.
So tell us how in the worldthat happened.
We know it because rememberthey took the books dark after
that.
So all the books for the nextnine years have been dark.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
Yeah, since 2015.
So yeah, last nine years theyjust gave up the pretense of
pretending to follow the law andthat money has just continued
to be taken out of the USTreasury into the black hole of
who knows what.
So any conspiracy theory youcould think of, there's a
plausible funding mechanism forit.
Right Doesn't mean it's real,but there would be a way to fund

(38:21):
the most dystopian thing youcould possibly think of with
that much money.

Speaker 4 (38:25):
So if you talk to some of the people who are
leaders in the financial system,what they would say is look, we
did everything we could to getthe constitutional republic
system to operate on a fiscallysound basis, and the general
population would not support afiscally sound government.

(38:47):
And if you look at the budgetdeal that collapsed in 1995,
that was proof that the bodypolitic would never allow a
responsible fiscal mechanism.
And so the intelligent thing todo is to simply you know, just
like when you have a businessyou run your old systems and

(39:07):
then you build your new systemsand you operate them in parallel
.
What you do is you just say,okay, we're going to suck all
the money out of the old system,move it into the new, run the
two systems in parallel, andthen we're ready to bring down
the old.
We just assert completefinancial transaction control
and force everybody to go along.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
Right, but where did that money go?
Somebody was asking that in theprevious conversation.
Help us see, because it doesn'tfeel as real to us often.
Help them see where it went.

Speaker 4 (39:39):
To find out where that money would go, I would
need access to audit the federalgovernment accounts at the New
York Fed for DOD and HUD, whichwere the two agencies so in
their records of where the moneywent.
I would need access to knowwhere the money went.

(40:00):
I can give you conjecture onwhere I think the money went.
I think the first thing theydid was using the BIS as a
laundry, but they had manylaundries.
They started to put money intothings like the Gates and
Clinton Foundation to start toinvest and build the new

(40:20):
infrastructure, including thecontrol grid.
I also think they've invested atremendous amount in invisible
weaponry and the black budgetand black technology.
After World War II we createdsomething called the black
budget and started to financesecret technology, including
invisible weaponry, for manyyears.

(40:41):
Many of you have probably heardthe dollar's about to collapse
and then the dollar doesn'tcollapse and it's strong.
The reason is the invisibleweaponry is much more powerful
in the US.
Military is much more powerfulthan is understood because of
much of this technology.
So a lot of money went into theinvisible weaponry and that

(41:02):
infrastructure In the Reaganadministration.
The deal that the Bushes madewith Reagan when they went in
was that Bush would control theNational Security Council, the
Department of Justice and theCIA basically intelligence
enforcement and Bush got Reaganto sign an executive order that

(41:23):
said private corporations coulddo highly classified secret
projects.
And what that did was thatdirectly connected the US stock
market to the Treasury bondmarket, which means the Treasury
could issue an infinite amountof bonds and send that money on

(41:44):
a secret basis to all the bigcorporations to do secret
projects.
There's a wonderful documentaryif you want to understand this
process, called State of Control.
It's made by a group of reallyfirst-rate movie producers and
documentary makers in theNetherlands in 2020.
It's called State of Control.
You can get it for free up onthe internet and we describe

(42:06):
this process.
So I think a lot of it went intoinvisible weaponry, but I also
believe a lot went into funding,essentially, a new civilization
.
So at one point when I was inthe Bush administration, I
watched the cabinet secretary Iworked for get really frustrated
and he was yelling at aregional administrator for doing
something and the regionaladministrator said but Mr

(42:28):
Secretary, you know I had to doit, it's the law.
The secretary just explodedwith rage and he said the law,
the law.
I don't have to obey the law.
I report to a higher moralauthority.
What he meant was I'm operatingfor the breakaway of
civilization.
I don't need to.
I'm operating for the breakawaycivilization, I don't need to
obey the Constitution or any ofthat, and I think they've

(42:48):
literally built an endowment ofresources.
I mean, if you steal $21trillion and you earn 10% a year
on $21 trillion, that's $2.1trillion a year.
That's enough to run a globalgovernment on an endowment basis
.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
Yeah, Well, tell them about Corey Lynn's article
about the InternationalOrganization Immunities Act.
Remember that one where, with astroke of a pen, the president
can use an executive order togive immunity to international
organizations.

Speaker 4 (43:19):
Right.
So if you come to Soleri,coraline did a whole series.
We've done a series of articleson sovereign immunity.
What has happened after WorldWar II?
Well, it started with the Bankof International Settlements,
which has sovereign immunity inSwitzerland, but then we built a
series of internationalorganizations the UN agencies

(43:43):
related to the UN that havevarious forms of sovereign
immunity, including over 40 downin Latin America.
Corey did a great piece onLatin America.
So you have all theseinstitutions around the world
that, essentially, are operatingoutside the law.
John Titus has a wonderfulvideo called All the Plenarius

(44:04):
Men where he describes, duringthe financial crisis, why the
Department of Justice would notprosecute the banks and he shows
how the BIS protected themthrough the Financial Stability
Board and essentially got themcovered with sovereign immunity
from any kind of prosecutionsovereign immunity from any kind

(44:26):
of prosecution.
So we're operating in a worldand this is part of the
financial coup where you have agroup of players who have
sovereign immunity andprotection from the law.
They have a get out of jailfree card.
In many cases they are immunefrom taxes.
They're free from taxes andthey have a very low cost of
capital, particularly if theycan print money, whereas we are
subject to the law and we don'tbegin to be able to print our

(44:48):
own money.
I mean in theory we could if wedecided to get together.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
Yeah, there's what 76 international organizations, 76
executive orders that everypresident since World War II,
except for Trump and so farBiden, have signed an executive
order giving blanket immunity toWorld Trade Organization,
united Nations.
Pick your non-governmentinstitution, and then they can
extend that and correct me ifI'm missing it.

(45:13):
They can extend that immunityto anybody who does business
with them.
If you subcontract, let's say,with the UN, or you subcontract
with the World TradeOrganization or the World
Tourism Organization or anythingpharma or food or whatever you
are also protected behind aliability shield.
So FOIA goes out, freedom ofinformation goes out the window.

(45:33):
We can't see what all thismoney is doing, and all these
organizations have basicallycreated their own covert
governance where they can travelfreely, which was really cool
during COVID, because the restof us had to show our papers,
and so that to me, that was abig aha moment where I thought,
my goodness, this is how they'redoing it.
They got control of the moneyand they've set up all these

(45:55):
organizations.

Speaker 4 (45:56):
I should also mention , because we've done two big
studies at Solari on space andinvestment in space, because I
think one of the commanddecisions, I think the reason
they globalized or made adecision to globalize in the
early 90s, was they wanted tomake a very significant
investment in space and to dothat they needed the engineering

(46:18):
capacity of Asia and soallowing Asia to develop and
develop that infrastructure andthat engineering capacity was
part of an effort, a concertedeffort, to become a
multi-planetary civilization.
So if you look at WEF, they'resaying you know, you're
preparing for a trip to Mars.
So I think that one of theirstrategic goals was to make a

(46:42):
massive investment in space.
Strategic goals was to make amassive investment in space and
part of the financial coup wassaying look, we can honor the
boomers' retirement and pay fora lot of nursing homes, or we
can just steal that money andspend it on space.
And one of the things you seewhen you study significant
investment in space is that toplatform that investment on a

(47:04):
secret basis and the invisibleweaponry on a secret base and
you needed to build a verysignificant infrastructure and
underground basis.
So we have on one of thoseweeks where we don't have money
in markets.
Go listen to our interview withRichard basis, one of the
smartest researchers we have inour network.
And I spent two years takingevery report or rumor of an

(47:29):
underground base in the UnitedStates and we collected it and
then systematically went, stateby state, through all 50 states,
took us two years and weestimated and this is just our
guess that there are 172underground bases just in the
United States.
Wow, and you know, and thatincludes under ocean bases, so

(47:52):
it's a very significant secretinfrastructure.
There's a great scene, I thinkin the movie Independence Day,
when they take the presidentdown into the bunker, you know,
and he sees all these scientistsin this huge laboratory and
he's like where did the moneycome from to do this?
I don't know about this.

(48:13):
And one of the scientistsbehind him is actually the dad
of the scientist.
He said you don't really thinkit costs $60,000 to make toilets
, do you?

Speaker 1 (48:23):
Right, Okay, well, so you've used the.
We kind of set the stage forwhat we think is going on here
and we've seen their dystopianvision of you're going to rent
everything.
You're not going to really ownanything.
You've used the term plundercapitalism, meaning we're going
to go plunder areas.
So define that term for us alittle bit and then tell us,
give us some examples of that inaction.

Speaker 4 (48:45):
Okay, so plunder capitalism is a word that
describes economic warfare,which is designed.
It's a form of investment thatextracts capital, as opposed to
invest capital to build apositive return.
So I think of investment assomething.

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I invest money in a company, Iwant that company to succeed.
If it succeeds and it buildsand it grows, it creates equity
value and the company gets morevaluable and you make a positive
return.
Extraction capital is when youinvest in a company and it
started with what's called theleverage buyouts and the LBO
game and you're trying tobasically extract as much

(49:29):
capital out of the company asyou can.
So we have a series of largeprivate equity companies in
America and if you look, thereare two great new books and I
wrote book reviews.
You can read them up on theSoler Report.
One is called Plunder byBrendan Ballou, who's a
wonderful attorney at theDepartment of Justice, and the

(49:50):
other is by Gretchen Morgansonand it's called they Are
Plunderers and they show a lotof case studies.
But in there what you read isthat if a private equity firm
any of the big private equityfirms in America buy a company,
or if a publicly traded or otherinvestor buys a company,

(50:14):
there's a 2% chance that thatcompany will go bankrupt in the
next 10 years.
If it's purchased by a privateequity firm, there's a 20%
chance that company will gobankrupt.
And you literally see privateequity firms.
They take over the company,they squeeze out the money, they
put it in bankruptcy andbankrupt the pension fund and

(50:35):
move the pension fund over tothe government.
But they have a variety or selloff.
A big one is they sell offtheir real estate assets, but
essentially they're not lookingto build up the company, they're
looking to extract capitalquickly.
Yeah, okay, now that's plundercapitalism targeted at a company
.
There's such a thing as plundercapitalism targeted at a

(50:56):
neighborhood.
I grew up in anAfrican-American neighborhood
and in the old days we used tocall it a beatdown.
Old days we used to call it abeat down.
But plunder capitalism is whenyou move in on a country or a
territory and you're there toextract assets and capital.
One of the things you do is youdeliver a shock which puts
everybody in a bad situation andthen you can buy their assets

(51:18):
cheap.
So COVID was plunder capitalism.
Here's how it works.
I vote on the going direct reset.
The central bankers gettogether August 2019.
They vote to do the goingdirect reset.
They inject $5 trillion intothe economy.
That goes mostly to Wall Street.
Covid comes along.

(51:39):
They shut down Main Street.
Right Now the publicly tradedstocks can suck up all the
market share.
So Amazon, costco, zoom,they're all getting everybody's
market share because Main Streetshut down.
Everybody on Main Street needsto feed their kids.
Some of them have to sell theirland in real estate and it's

(51:59):
easy to do.
It's easy to buy it because youjust got $5 trillion.
You have money to go shopping.
So that's an example of a majorplunder capitalist play.
That literally happened, youknow, throughout the Western
world and throughout the worldand it was quite remarkable.
It was probably the mostfinancially successful plunder

(52:21):
capitalist move that we've seenso far successful plunder
capitalist move that we've seenso far.
We just published something onthe Solari Report, which is part
of our series to help statelegislators on five case studies
of plunder capitalism.
That also does a description ofhow the model works.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
What are the five?

Speaker 4 (52:40):
It's Cyprus, Nigeria, Kenya, Greece, Russia.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
That's five.

Speaker 4 (52:48):
One other.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
I think that was five .

Speaker 4 (52:51):
Yeah.
Thank you, Joan One more, butthat's five Anyway.
But there's also a very gooddescription of oh no, we did
Latin America, so it's six.
There were a lot of, andthere's a book called Shock
Doctrine about the shocks thatwere done in Latin America.
And it's interesting, if youtalk to.

(53:22):
Some of the's happening in theUkraine today is we went in, we
sent in the intelligenceagencies, the law firms, the
investment banks and the Russianmafia in Russia after the wall
came down and Harvard led theeffort and we did.
It's called the Rape of Russiaand we basically put Russia into

(53:46):
a shock and did a lot ofstripping of assets and tried to
use that opportunity for theWestern investment interests to
buy up a lot of the oil and gas.
And if you talk to some of thepeople involved in that shock,
it was very profitable, verysuccessful, and it's described

(54:08):
in the case studies that wewrite up.
And one of the things they saidwas you know, we didn't want to
bring the government downcompletely because we were
afraid we'd lose control of thenuclear arsenal and the nuclear
arsenal could get, so theydidn't take the government, they
didn't do a complete implosion,but there are some estimates

(54:31):
that as many as 25 millionpeople died as a result of the
economic collapse, and so theRussians remember that.
That's one of the reasons whythey are adamant that they are
not going to let the UnitedStates do that again.
They believe that and this hasbeen the announced neocon
strategy that one of the goalsof the Ukraine effort was to
implode Russia again so we couldget control of the natural
resources there.

Speaker 1 (54:52):
Yeah.
So that's plunder.
That's them working to, as theysaid in the video, take our
assets and the US will no longerbe the world's leading
superpower.
That effort is now being aimedat us and we can see it coming
and we can do something about it.
But another?
I'm going to give just a coupleof examples that I've heard you

(55:13):
mention.
There's the simpler, subtlerthings Like if you go to Dollar
General, they'll add extracharges on your receipt at
checkout that aren't on theprice tag.
They will do that at car rentaltag.
They will do that at car rentalcompanies.
They will do things liketelling the Dutch farmers or any
farmer that you have to changeyour standard of how you farm
and we can keep squeezing youuntil you can't make it as a

(55:36):
farmer and we can take your land.
They'll do that with homeownersinsurance.
Some of you may have had thatfun thing.
This is all around us andthey're trying to tighten the
noose and the more and check tomake sure when they check out
it's the same price.

Speaker 4 (56:10):
And I believe I can't prove it, but I believe with AI
and software they can literallydo.
They can do custom design itfor you.
They'll say you know, I knowHarry's really wealthy and busy.
They'll say you know, I knowHarry's really wealthy and busy
and so he won't check so we canpad it more.
So I literally think it's afraudulent model.
I've run into this with carrental companies.

(56:33):
I've run into it with hotelsand it's unbelievable.
I used to always prefer to stayin hotels and now I always want
to stay in a private homebecause I feel like I'm living
in a.
You know, I'm living in anextraction unit, you know,
anyway.
So so it's a real.
You know, one of the reasons Ilove to pay cash is if you give

(56:58):
them your credit card number,the next thing, you know.
You know they're padding thebill.

Speaker 1 (57:01):
Yeah, yeah, Okay.
Now another phrase I've heardyou use that was like was
composting the American people.
So give us an example or two ofthat, or what do you mean by
that?
I've got.

Speaker 4 (57:11):
There's one thing I do want to bring up and that is
we just did a salari report oncar insurance.
We have a wonderful attorneywho's a subscriber, who defends
people who are being defraudedby their car insurance company,
and I was out in Idaho with himand it was three hours to drive
me from the airport into theSandpoint and then another, so

(57:33):
an hour and a half to drive usto Sandpoint, an hour and a half
back, and the whole time I wasjust grilling him on.
Because if you do as muchdriving around America as I do,
because if you do as muchdriving around America as I do,
the number of accidents are justskyrocketing because people's
cognition is really slipping orthey're distracted by the
screens or there are manydifferent reasons, but there's a

(57:56):
real problem with it gettingriskier to drive.
So I really care that peoplehave good car insurance.
So I was grilling this guy yearto drive.
So I really care that peoplehave good car insurance.
So I was grilling this guy andthe stories of how insurance
companies are shaking peopledown and lying and cheating were
absolutely frightening, andthat's why we I don't know if
you I want you to listen to that, because you have to make you
have six kids.
I want you to have really goodcar insurance.

Speaker 1 (58:17):
Okay, and any of you who have kids, really good car
insurance, okay.
Talk to us about the border orthe great poisoning or genocide
as a strategy.
To me those are somewhat mixedtogether, but those are examples
of composting us.

Speaker 4 (58:34):
So the border is a policy and it's a policy which
is supported by both sides ofthe house Because it's decided
above.
You know, if you look at thefinancial system, they are
moving a significant number ofpeople in and there seems to be

(58:57):
many multiple.
Whenever you have a move thisbig, there are multiple goals.
It's called stacking functions.
They always stack function.
Clearly they're trying to bringin cheap labor and that is
helping them refinance up theSocial Security.
So the Social Security systemis being helped by drops in life

(59:22):
expectancy, but it's also beinghelped by immigrants.
I have people telling me thatemployers literally are getting
tons of immigrants withintentionally fraudulent IDs so
they can pay into SocialSecurity that they'll never get.
Yep.
Right.
So part of it is cheap labor,part of it is sort of helping to

(59:45):
build Social Security, but theother is weaponization.
So they are weaponizing theimmigrants to dilute the power
of our general population, tostop them from doing central
control.
And you know there's no doubtthat the democrats are working
very hard to get some of thosepeople registered.

(01:00:07):
Um and, and you know it's avery dangerous situation because
you're bringing in a lot ofpeople without uh checks and
balances and the cartels aredefinitely bringing in people
and you're also having a lot ofkids come in and disappear or
get kidnapped, which is veryfrightening.
So one of the big questions iswe have lots of young

(01:00:30):
military-age men coming in andthere's a push in the Senate to
make it easy to move thosepeople into the US military.
So the question is are we goingto end up with a lot of
foreigners in the US military?

Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
It's a big question, I don't know who don't share our
values, who don't have ahistory here to want to defend
it or defend us, right, yep?
Okay, so many topics, all right.
So September 11th happened on aTuesday and on Wednesday you go

(01:01:08):
to church and your pastor makesstatement and he asks your
opinion.

Speaker 4 (01:01:10):
Tell us that story.
Yeah, so the first thing thathappened, september 9th, I was
working with a reporter inWashington.
I was living in Tennessee andwhen I first moved to Tennessee
in 2000, I was working with areporter who I would talk to
every weekend.
We would coordinate and I washelping her with research and
what we found was whenever wewould get a political sermon at

(01:01:33):
church, I would call her andshe'd say how can you know that?
My best source at the FBI justleaked that to me and we
discovered there wasextraordinary coordination
between the political sermons Iwas getting about once a month
it wasn't every week and theleak she was getting from the
CIA and the FBI wasextraordinary.
It was like a marketingcampaign.

(01:01:54):
It was like a campaign with thefax back service the line of
the day, and she was getting itfrom one source, I was getting
it from another.
Anyway, so I go to church onSeptember 9th 2001, and it's the
most political sermon we'veever gotten, and the sermon is
that there are two women whowere arrested in Afghanistan for

(01:02:15):
preaching the gospel and themessage is that the tension
between Islam and the Christianchurch have come to a head and
the only way to resolve it is togo to war, and they lay out the
battle plan.
It was like Wesley Clark's fivecountry, you know, and we're
going to Afghanistan and thenwe're going to Iraq.

(01:02:36):
So I go home and I call Kellyand I said, kelly, we're going
to war in Afghanistan.
She said I haven't gotten alink.
It was the first time shehadn't gotten a leak.
I said I'm telling you, we'regoing to Afghanistan, and then
we're going to Iraq, and thenwe're going to these other
countries, we're going to war.
She said I haven't gotten aleak.
So she and I were working on astory about all the money that

(01:02:58):
was disappearing from thefederal government, all the
missing money, and at that pointthere was $4.1 trillion missing
from DOD and HUD.
So now it's in 2015,.
It was $21, but then it was $4trillion.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
Yeah, by the way, Donald Rumsfeld went on C-SPAN
on September 10th 2001,.
If you haven't seen it, he'slike it's weird.
The Department of Defense ismissing $2.3 trillion.

Speaker 4 (01:03:29):
So we had a huge story on the missing money
coming out on Friday Okay, sothat was like the 15th and she
had the cover story in InsightMagazine which automatically
goes to every congressionaloffice, every senator's office.
She had the cover story $4trillion missing.
So the next day was September10th and she called me and she
said Rumsfeld just had a pressconference and did a modified
hangout.
He said there was 2.3 trillionmissing.

(01:03:50):
So we thought he was trying toget ahead of our story and I
said to Kelly something I willnever say again.
I said nothing's going to stopthis story from going viral.
Now the next morning is 9-11.
Kelly calls me in the morning.
She she said somebody just flewa plane into the world trade
center.
You gotta you know, you gottawatch.
I didn't have a tv but I couldget online and watch it.

(01:04:11):
So, um, it was very interesting.
So the next morning I get up andthere's a.
There was a black farmhand whowas helping he works for my
cousin, but he was helping me onmy property and he walked
across and it was amazing to seethe African-American community
and the Caucasian community hada totally different perspective

(01:04:33):
on the whole thing.
He walks up to me and he saidwe think it was the Bushes, what
do you think?
So I was like, okay, these guysknow.
So I'm riding my bicycle aroundthe town commons on Wednesday
night and I realize, okay, theseguys know.
So I'm riding my bicycle aroundthe town commons on Wednesday
night and I realized, oh, it'sWednesday, it's prayer service.
So I thought I got to hear this.
So I go to church and I walk inand everybody's there, the

(01:04:57):
whole it's a tiny church, allthe whole congregation.
And I'm sitting there and thepastor gets up and walks up to
the podium and he says George WBush was anointed by God for a
time such as this.
And I put my head in my handsand I was like, oh God, please
help me, save me.
I didn't want to just mouth off,I didn't want to be effective.

(01:05:20):
So I'm just praying for divineintervention.
And exactly at that moment mypastor says my middle name's
Austin.
He says Austin, you worked inWashington.
What do you think Now?
For Southern Baptist conventionpreacher to ask a female Yankee
what she thinks at that point intime, that is divine
intervention.

(01:05:40):
So I said, okay, I asked fordivine intervention, so now I
have to perform.
I took a deep breath and I said, okay, I asked for divine
intervention, so now I have toperform.
I took a deep breath and I saidbrother Keith, in my opinion,
the bushes are anointed byfinancial fraud, narcotics
trafficking and pedophilia.
And my cousin you should haveseen my cousin's face she was

(01:06:01):
like oh God.
And my pastor was totallyshocked and he said if that's
the case, we're lost.
I said don't be ridiculous.
We have a governor, his name isGod.
We don't need the Bushes andthe Clintons.
People like the Bushes and theClintons come and go.
And I had this wonderfulneighbor who was a big Democrat

(01:06:22):
and hated the Bushes and shesaid, yeah, and I had this
wonderful neighbor who was a bigDemocrat and hated the Bushes.
And she said, yeah, and there'sa saying in scripture where two
or more gathered in my name,there am I.
But the accord between two of usit broke the trance and for
about six months my cousin wassticking little yellow ribbons

(01:06:42):
all over me.
And then it came out that theNational Security Council had
known about planes flying in andhad warned people.
And what was interesting is,even though sort of I was
persona non grata for doing thatfor a while, when that came out
people were walking around andsaying we weren't fooled here,
and so it turned out to be avery positive thing.

(01:07:03):
And so it turned out to be avery positive thing.
But what you saw was thenetworking of every county,
every community, everyinstitution in New York in three

(01:07:25):
buildings, and in Washington atthe Pentagon, offices that had
the most documentation on the $4trillion missing were all blown
up that building seven, butthey don't want you to never

(01:07:47):
forget the twin towers, buttotally forget about building
seven that just collapsed intocontrolled demolition all by
itself right and two weeks laterI was in washington.
I was in london at a conferenceand I'm driving around the city
of london in this convertiblejaguar with a bond trader from
the city and the phone rings onhis car speakerphone and he
answers it and he says in a veryBritish way and it's somebody

(01:08:11):
from New York, it's a clientfrom New York.
And he says I'm so sorry aboutwhat has happened in New York.
You must be traumatized.
And the guy is saying don't beridiculous, the Fed's pumping
like crazy.
We're making a fortune.
It's the best thing that everhappened to us.
And he went that's how themoney works.

Speaker 1 (01:08:31):
Yeah, so we promised you some fireworks.
There's one.
There's things that happen inthis world that are official
reality, crafty terrorists, andthere's reality.
We want to help you see thedifference between the two.
So all right.
So since we're in stickywidgets, let's go ahead and keep
it going.
So, gwen, if you can pull upthe next slide, I've got.

(01:08:51):
So how many of you think thechurch has enemies?
Anybody.
You think there are people whomight try to infiltrate?
Water down, capture the church.
Capture the church.
Yeah, this is from 1859.

(01:09:11):
So this is a quote from the AltaVendita about the intentional
subversion of the CatholicChurch.
So I'll just read you thisquote the Pope, whoever he may
be, will never come to thesecret societies.
It is for the secret societiesto come first to the church with
the aim of winning the books,the church and the Pope.
The work with which we haveundertaken is not the work of a
day, nor of a month, nor of ayear.
It may last many years, acentury perhaps, but in our

(01:09:34):
ranks the soldier dies and thefight continues.
That's the Catholic church.
That was an intentionalinfiltration.
There were two Popes thatrequested that this be divulged,
so they could see that.
But one thing I want to pointout at this is that last line, a
century perhaps, right, theseare patient, gradualist thinkers

(01:09:56):
.
They are system-level thinkersand they're okay with slowly
taking things over.
They think really well,multiple decades out.
All right, can you show me thenext slide there, egon?
So this would never happen inthe Protestant church, right,
there would never beinfiltration or attempts to
coerce or hire shepherds, right.

(01:10:17):
So that book there in themiddle, shepherds for Hire it's
actually a bestseller right now,but it is the intentional
agenda behind capturing clergythat you can see documented in
that book.
Do you want to make a commenton either of those two?

Speaker 4 (01:10:34):
So I haven't read Shepherds for Sale.
I've had people describe it.
But you know I would say thereis a very significant effort on
all levels of the politicalspectrum to get the churches to
support the central controlagenda and there are thousands
of different marketingstrategies.

(01:10:56):
And when I first started tostudy this level of control I
couldn't believe it because Icould never believe they would
spend that much money.
And when I finally unpacked thefinancial ramifications, what I
discovered is you know, it ischeaper to engage in this kind
of information, warfare andpropaganda and mind control than

(01:11:20):
in outright war.
If you do outright war, peoplesee it and oppose you.
But this is a way of sneaking upon everybody in thousands of
different ways, and it's a hugejob program, I mean from a
contracting standpoint.
They win a lot of politicalfavors spending money doing this

(01:11:42):
.

Speaker 1 (01:11:43):
Yep.
Okay, there's the third book upthere.
I don't know how many of youhave seen or read that book, but

(01:12:05):
what are the chances thatsomebody who thinks like a
patient generational thinker whowould work to capture things
over a century might actuallywork to infiltrate and capture
Christian eschatology if youdon't know that word, that's a
fancy word for study of the endtimes and to wrap into Christian
theology a defeatist orpessimistic view of what
historically had scant referenceto or never was found in the
history of the Christian churchand to try to convince the
American churches that we shouldjust roll over because the one

(01:12:28):
world government's inevitable.
It's in the Bible.
There's going to be thisantichrist as a literal person,
there's going to be this mark onyour hand.
So you might as well just letthat wave just come, because it
has to happen before we canactually have the second coming.
What if that was an intentionalsubversion of Christian

(01:12:51):
eschatology?
How would a first centuryJewish person read the book of
Revelation?
I can promise you it's not howthe Schofield Reference Bible
would teach you to read the bookof Revelation that was
published in 1909.
Would teach you to read thebook of Revelation that was
published in 1909.
That book, and then the MoodyBible Institute, especially in
the 60s, wrapped into Christiantheology this pessimistic view

(01:13:17):
that really hardly existed.
You can find so many referencesto victorious, to optimistic
eschatology.
You could take it as a giventhat wait a minute.
The church is the biggestreligion in the world.
We've grown more.
We're actually on the path tofulfilling the Great Commission,
or are we on the path to justthis anemic limp like fine, I'll
come back and fix it, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:13:36):
Okay.
So I became a serious optimistin 1998.
Tell me more.
I've been an optimist since andI'll tell you why.
So I created this company andwe built databases to be able to
map out the government money byplace.
And as we did, I started to lookat if we were free to redo

(01:14:03):
investment bottom-up, one countyat a time, 3,100 counties how
much wealth could we create?
So I had a group of peopleworking for me.
We had a program with MIT wherewe would hire people out of
their PhD programs and trainthem how to do investment
banking.
And they were wicked smart,they were wonderful, wonderful.
And there were kids from allaround the world and we had this

(01:14:30):
one guy from.
He was a Chinese, he'd been atTiananmen Square and then
escaped China and come and go onto MIT, got his PhD, came to
work for us.
So I told him take the weekendand go.
If we were free to optimize theeconomy in this ways, how much
wealth could we create?
And he went off and he cameback and he showed me the
numbers.
I said that's impossible,that's too big, that's
impossible.
You have to go back and do itagain.

(01:14:52):
You made a mistake.
Anyway, he came back and hesaid I'm right.
So I had to take the weekendand go study it and that's when
I discovered.
If you look at the cost of allthe skimming and racketeering
that is going on, it's amazing.
We're as wealthy as we are onour souls, but on our money, the

(01:15:29):
potential wealth.
If we could simply engage in acivilized society without all
this primitive financialbehavior, it's unbelievable.
There is no economic problem onthis planet.
We have a serious spiritualproblem and we have a serious
governance problem, but we don'thave a financial and economic
problem.
And if you look at the wealthpotential, you know I'm an
investment banker.
I get very excited aboutcreating wealth.

Speaker 1 (01:15:49):
And broaden the definition of wealth beyond
money.

Speaker 4 (01:15:51):
Right, the wealth, the wealth potential.
You know, it does not have tobe like this.
It does not have to be likethis.
I can't tell you how much isbeing extracted.
It's unbelievable.
Yeah, and you know, if you'retired it's because we're
carrying quite a load.
It's unbelievable.
Yeah, okay, so tell them whatyou told me this morning about

(01:16:19):
Netanyahu, about where he camefrom.
So he knows I've been havingquite a squabble with some of
the candidates about theirsupport of Gaza and what's going
on in Gaza.
But I grew up in Philadelphia,at 48th and Larchwood and that's
West Philadelphia, and I wentto a Quaker day school down in
the center of the city and Iused to date a lot of guys who'd

(01:16:41):
go to Central High, which wassort of the big magnet public
school, and a lot of those guyswould date girls from Cheltenham
High.
Cheltenham High was out in thesuburbs and the kids in
Cheltenham were really spoiled.
So I grew up in West Philly.
We thought they were veryspoiled.
So NetYahoo graduated fromCheltenham High in 1967.

(01:17:02):
I was friend select 1968.
And I always tell people Icould tell you, never give a kid
from Cheltenham High a nucleararsenal because you're going to
have a world of hurt and a worldof trouble.
So you know he's a Philly boy.
He went to MIT for architecture, you know, and many, many of
the people who started and runIsrael are not in Israel,

(01:17:26):
they're in LA, new York andLondon.

Speaker 1 (01:17:29):
Yep, and the reason I wanted that and these books on
the record is because if we as achurch decide to just roll over
and anything Israel does, itmust be good because it's in the
Bible.
If I pull out a piece of paperout of my pocket and I make the
shape of a dollar and I write $1on it, does that mean it's
actually $1?
If I take a Star of David andslap it on a white flag, does

(01:17:54):
that mean it's actually Israel?
Does it mean it actuallyrepresents what we think of as
the historical land or nation ofIsrael?
Or might that be somethingthat's not in the Bible but it
was used against us to get us topotentially just roll over and
excuse inexcusable behavior ofharming and maiming kids?

Speaker 4 (01:18:18):
So I'll let you take it so, but I do want to bring up
because to me, the mostimportant issue, because we do
have a constitution, it stillexists, it's very powerful and
we still have a sovereigngovernment.
Unfortunately, we have manypeople in the Congress and, I
suspect, many people in thiscurrent administration, who are

(01:18:40):
dual citizens.
They are not just Americans,they have passports many, I
suspect to Israel.
I did an interview with CynthiaMcKinney used to be a
congresswoman from the Atlantaarea and she said the number one
problem in Congress is the dualcitizen passport group and they
are loyal not to the sovereigninterests of the United States

(01:19:02):
but to this network.
And many of those people againare in the United States who run
, I believe, who run Israel, andthis is a real problem.
And one of the reasons it's areal problem is, if you look at
that network, they are deeplyinvolved in pushing for
financial transaction controland if you're going to give them

(01:19:23):
a get out of jail free card, onwhat they're doing in Israel
and it's not just in Palestine.
Netanyahu was very clear.
He said we're going to turnIsrael into a lab for Pfizer and
he mandated the shot.
It was very rough and he gavethe private health care records

(01:19:44):
of every Israeli to Pfizer forthe experiment, which is a
serial felon.
Right.
So you know, if you look atwhat is happening, the genocide
is not just in Palestine, it'sin Israel too.

Speaker 1 (01:19:59):
Yeah, the same guy that sold out his own people is
also—.

Speaker 4 (01:20:05):
Well, but Congress gave him 54 standing evictions.

Speaker 1 (01:20:10):
So yeah, something—again, we're here to
stretch your thinking, not tellyou what to think and believe
what makes sense to you, but wehope you can question everything
.
Everything and questioned it ina way that says maybe there's
somebody who's trying topuppeteer me and who goes and
hires shepherds and who warpseschatology and tries to tell us
that what we think is going onisn't what's going on.

Speaker 4 (01:20:33):
Well, here's what's interesting there are a couple
of good people in Congresswho've gotten extraordinary
things done Senator Ron Johnson,congressman Massey, the
congressman from Wyoming who gotthe NAC stopped.
You know, you see, theseamazing people who get amazing
things done.
It's amazing how much more theycould get done if we just

(01:20:56):
supported them.
And so there are tremendousthings that can happen if we
start to support the people whoare in there fighting.
But we have to start sayingwe're not going to support the
people doing the genocide, weare going to support the people
who are trying to change things.

Speaker 1 (01:21:14):
So there's some filters that you guys can use
for attempting to discern what'strue and what's not in these
days and test that, see how thatperspective holds up, see if
there's something about it thatmight make some sense.
And may we not be guilty ofexcusing behavior that Jesus
would not be very happy with.
The harshest words he had inthe New Testament was for

(01:21:35):
anybody that harms children.
Do you remember that Better tohave a millstone tied around
your neck and thrown into theabyss than to lay a hand on kids
?
So, okay, we're going to starttransitioning here a little bit
to hopeful stuff, because Ipromised you that was coming.
So you obviously saw thiscoming way earlier than I did,

(01:21:58):
and you start when you recognizewhat was happening.

Speaker 4 (01:22:00):
Well no, I was on the inside, I was one of the
predators.
Yeah, what was happening?
Well no, I was on the inside, Iwas one of the predators.

Speaker 1 (01:22:04):
Yeah Well, and that's your backbone.
Your moral compass to tell youto get out of it led you to go
say, where in the world would Ilike to plant some roots?
And so you ended up in HickoryValley, tennessee.
So tell us, how is it like whenyou did your SWOT analysis
strengths, weaknesses,opportunities, threat when you
did your research of where to go, how did you pick that and how

(01:22:27):
do we become a place like that?

Speaker 4 (01:22:31):
So I live most of the time in the Netherlands now,
okay, okay, so I'm back andforth between the Netherlands
and here.
But what happened to me is andyou can understand the decision
if you read the Dylan Reed book,which is online Dylan Reed and
the Aristocracy of Stock ProfitsI became convinced that they

(01:22:51):
were implementing a plan to dothe unipolar world, that the
faction running Israel was verymuch a part of this plan it was
the city of London and the USgovernment and the Israelis and
I thought their plan would fail.
I was absolutely convinced thatwhat they were doing was they

(01:23:14):
were beginning to depopulate.
So I described the genocide inpoor neighborhoods.
I was convinced that if we letthat genocide go, that
ultimately it would work its wayup, although I didn't
appreciate how much, how fastthat would be, and I thought
that they, their plan was goingto fail and I didn't want to be

(01:23:35):
a part of it, and so my theorywas I'm going to go out in the
wilderness and see if I can comeup with plan B.
So if they're going to do thegoing direct reset and the
financial coup, I'm going tocome up with plan B.
So if they're going to do thegoing direct reset and the
financial coup.
I'm going to come up with thebuilding wealth reset and I'm
going to figure out okay, howcould we re-engineer Because we
do need a reset how could were-engineer a reset that got us

(01:23:57):
to a human civilization insteadof this dystopian totalitarian
thing, whatever it is?
And I just felt they had becomelost and they were going to
fail.
So I didn't want to be part oftheir failure and out I went,
and part of it was I don't knowif I ever told you the story
when they asked me to join theCouncil on Foreign Relations.

Speaker 1 (01:24:18):
No, I didn't know that.

Speaker 4 (01:24:20):
It was really funny.
I was on the board of SallieMae and the chairman was a
lovely guy.
He was an SNL chairman fromKentucky and he pulled out this
brochure and he said the timehas come for you to join the
council.
And he said we want you to askNick Brady, who had been the
chairman of Dillon Reed, tosponsor you, which I didn't want
to do.
And I said, harry, I just don'twant to do it.
And he looked at me and saidyou don't, you don't understand.

(01:24:50):
If you don't do this, you'll beout forever.
And suddenly in my mind I hadan image of them taking my name
off of the locker in theunderground base and I thought
you know, if it comes to that,I'll take my chances upstairs.
I do not want to be lockedunderground with all these
people.
So, and that was it, that wassort of the one of the moments
of splitting off.
So so we do need a reset.
It depends it really I believeit depends on the people of the

(01:25:13):
church to figure that out and isimmortal.
You have to understand that.
And if you understand that, youknow why you adopt and

(01:25:33):
implement values in avalue-based culture, because
culture is just the integrationof the divine in everyday life.
But the society that willendure is a society that has an
excellent culture, and you haveto have the right values and you
have to know that your valuesare for a higher God and a
higher purpose than just youknow what makes you money today.
So you know.

(01:25:53):
All of that was sort of clearand that's what I've been trying
to do ever since, and I know itis possible.
And one of the reasons it'spossible is that this will not
be decided by logic and thiswill not be decided by force.
This will be decided by divineintervention.
I don't know when it's going tohappen.

(01:26:13):
I don't know how it's going tohappen, but we are called to do
everything we can to serve that.
It's the story of Gideon in theBible, if you've read that, and
we have to be Gideon's army andwhat will be will be.
It's way out of our control,but there's no choice because if
you look at what they're up toon the other side, that's not

(01:26:34):
something you ever want to be apart of.
You don't want to live in that.
So there's no choice here.

Speaker 1 (01:26:41):
Yeah, it's an inflection point there's.
I can continue to live in lineI think you said it with the
machine or I can start to figureout and live in line with my
values.
And I can tell you it is a lotof work to disentangle from all
of the ways you were stuck inthe machine, but, gosh, it is
worth the effort.
It feels really good to use herphrase to stop doing business

(01:27:02):
with criminals and to startdoing business with people you
know and trust and appreciateand love.
So anything you want to add tothat, we want to open it up for
some Q and A.

Speaker 4 (01:27:17):
What I will say is as soon as you're clear that
you're dealing with a criminalsystem and they're moving
towards enforcing with force,and you say okay, and you shift
and you start doing exactly asyou'd advised, suddenly life
becomes much easier, much better.
I call it coming clean.
As you go through the comingclean process, life gets much,
much better because you get theevil out of your space.

Speaker 1 (01:27:40):
Okay, well, let me press you.
This is probably one of themost difficult questions, but if
we're coming clean, we'rebreaking up with big tech, we're
breaking up with any systemthat has weaponized money
against us.
Yet the biggest check we writeevery year is to the criminal
cartel.
How is it that we beginbreaking up with that and stop

(01:28:03):
funding our own enslavement?

Speaker 4 (01:28:05):
So I don't know, if you noticed, one of the
magazines I brought was ontaxation and that describes our
proposal of what can be done.
And that's where the statelegislators and the state AGs
come in, because under theConstitution, the power is not
delegated to the federalgovernment by the states, are
reserved to the states, is notdelegated to the federal

(01:28:25):
government by the states, arereserved to the states, and the
states and the state attorneygenerals have the power to act
on our behalf to make sure ourtax money is not spent illegally
.
Right now, the federalgovernment is in massive
violation of the financialmanagement laws and the state
AGs can act, including escrowingour taxes and helping to
enforce, to make sure that themoney is not spent illegally.

Speaker 1 (01:28:47):
There you go.
So what's the wrap-up that youtalked about?

Speaker 4 (01:28:50):
It's called taxation.

Speaker 1 (01:28:51):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:28:52):
So there are more copies still, I think in the
other room.

Speaker 1 (01:28:55):
Yep, okay.
So does anybody here have aburning question you would like
to ask?
There's a microphone right uphere.
If you want to come up and grabit so other people can hear it.

Speaker 8 (01:29:13):
Alright.
Question Taxation.
There's a few people in thesort of freedom movement who are
talking about that taxation isactually federal, taxes are
actually voluntary, and thatbefore I don't know what year it
was but before we startedimplementing tax we were fine,

(01:29:36):
roads were made, everything wasokay.
So that was part one.
Part two is big and small right.
Part one, part two is big andsmall, right.
Do you think that there is moresusceptibility to evil as
things get bigger?
Because it seems like that'swhere things fall apart is when
people get into high of a levelof power or when the power

(01:29:57):
spreads too far.
And this model you're talkingabout, which is great, is about
small.
And is there kind of aninflection point of size where
things get?
You know where you?
You know, if you were to builda formula around the success of
our own set, which is good, whatare the size parameters, if
there are any?

Speaker 4 (01:30:15):
Okay.
So, yes, the you know, if youlook at the law, federal taxes
should be voluntary, but if youlook at people who try to
litigate that or implement that,they're practical issues and,
as a political matter, what Ifound is most people who pay
their taxes resent people whodon't pay their taxes and think

(01:30:37):
they should get out, which iswhy I'm suggesting a political
solution, because we needsovereign government At least we
need it now and so when asovereign state government and
an attorney general act to holdthe federal government
accountable for breaking the lawand do it to protect our taxes,

(01:30:57):
you avoid the political problemof some people are paying and
some aren't, and the people whoare paying resent the people who
aren't.
The thing that really drivesthat resentment is so many
people more than 50% of thepeople within a community are
dependent on checks from thefederal government, so you need
to come up with a way for peopleto put money in the pot and

(01:31:20):
those people to be protected,and that's what an escrow under
a state AG could do.
Okay, so, so, cause you'retrying to build a political
solution, and because so manypeople are dependent on federal
checks, you don't want tothreaten them or pull their
money.
So that's number one.
The second question was how bigis it?

Speaker 1 (01:31:41):
yet?
How big can a local area?

Speaker 4 (01:31:43):
get before so if you look at bottom-up local action,
if you go out on the prairie,what we found was a town would
grow to about 10,000 people andthen they'd split.
It's kind of like churchesgrowing to a certain size and
then splitting.
So I really thought thesmallest group for, you know,

(01:32:05):
sort of major local investmentand direct investment was about
10,000.
But I've seen counties whereyou could go much higher because
you had great infrastructureand leadership.
So.
But I would say you know youhave 3,100 counties and it's
going to be sort of anywherefrom 10,000 to county level

(01:32:30):
where you need to really do thereengineering of the economy,
and that's where I would work.
One of the things I would loveto see is mesh networks combined
with crypto that iscommunity-based.
Part of what could make cryptoreally powerful is community

(01:32:50):
currency, crypto.
But here's one of the greatestreforms I've ever heard and I
say this because there's somefabulous homeschoolers in the
audience, right, but who hereknows who?
Bill Binney is?
Raise your hand.
Bill Binney was the toptechnical director at the NSA
and he is smart as all get out.
And he said to me so remember,he was the top technical

(01:33:13):
director at the NSA.
He said and they're thesurveillance people.
He said what could really makea difference is all the
homeschoolers teach their kidshow to do cryptography and
encryption.
And then we have local you knowso mesh networks with community
currencies and we have the kidsconstantly making new

(01:33:35):
encryption systems and justspinning them around.
Locally, he said it's drivingthem crazy, they can't deal with
it, I like it.
Locally, he said it's drivingthem crazy, they can't deal with
it, I like it.
And so all the homeschoolersteach your kids encryption,
because that gives us the powerto communicate financially or
just communication locally andbreak through the surveillance.
Right on.

Speaker 6 (01:34:02):
Florida has a terrible plunder problem right
now.
In May of 2022, a new law waspassed that, after the collapse
of the condominium in Miami,they had city ordinances, and so
what they did was they changedthe law to all condominiums

(01:34:26):
three stories and higher.
They had to come underengineering review or
architectural review, and thenthe reserves were only I don't
think that there was a, I thinkit was like 10% was like the
minimum or something, and thenyou had to go up to a hundred
percent special assessment.

(01:34:47):
There there are three differentassessments the um or reserve
special reserve and then thegeneral reserve, and I don't
know what the third one was.
They're trying to force sales.
They are.
I mean, it's terrible.
And on top of that, in Decemberof 2022, all of our insurance
laws changed All of the propertyinsurance laws, all of the car

(01:35:10):
insurance, all of the businessinsurance you know if you own a
building.
So all of the insurance changed.
And so I'm a property insuranceattorney, I'm a plaintiff,
never worked defense, so I'mplaintiff.
But what I'm seeing is now somany are uninsured.

(01:35:39):
When COVID happened, I heardthat there was a group of
lobbyists who went to Trump.
Trump wanted to make sure thatthe businesses got money and
then he got strong-armed by thelobbyists.
Heard Don't know if that's true, but so what do we do?

(01:36:01):
So very disappointed in ourgovernor, very disappointed in
our governor for our supermajority Republican and I'm
conservative.
Okay, do we have an alternative?
You're in finance.
What is the solution for theplundering that's happening in

(01:36:29):
Florida?
Because it's affecting thosemore who came down here.
They retired, they're on afixed income and they are losing
their properties and people arehaving to move out of the state
and the plunder is real.

Speaker 4 (01:36:46):
Right.
So, and in fact there'ssomething happening with the
state parks that I've beentrying to figure out, which may
be right.
There's something going on withthe state parks that looks like
it's okay.
I don't.
I'm I've been trying to figureout what's going on.

(01:37:06):
There is only one way I know tostop that, and it's one of the
things that's helped stop someof that in Tennessee, and that
is when you have a concertedgroup of conservatives in the
state legislature who stop it atevery turn and and you've got
to get a critical mass of thosepeople you know elected into the

(01:37:29):
state legislature andunderstanding it and working on
it.
And you know we have a group inTennessee that stopped a lot.
They just stopped NACS.
They helped to stop NACS thisyear.
They helped stop this crazyconservation easement thing, and
that's the only way I know toreally stop it.
Well, it certainly helps if youhave media that can basically

(01:38:01):
put transparency on the peopledoing it.
I mean there's a lot that canbe done by bringing transparency
.
A lot of these things are verycomplicated, they happen in the
dark and they're given air coverby saying, oh, we're just
trying to protect people frombuilding falling down, but
without a concerted group in thelegislature who knows what

(01:38:22):
they're doing.
I don't know of a way to stopit.

Speaker 2 (01:38:30):
So right now we are $35 trillion in debt.
That means every man, woman,child owes $102,000.
We're split evenly.
What is the series of eventsthat you think would happen if
this continues and we don'tsolve the issue?

Speaker 4 (01:38:45):
So that's a military question, believe it or not.
So I would like to point outthat the Treasury could have
just issued that money.
We did not have to issue thatas debt.
So the Treasury and theCongress have the power to issue
our money.
We don't have to use debt toissue currency, so that $35

(01:39:11):
trillion is, in a sense, a fakedebt trap.
We never had to issue it asdebt.
So if there's $21 trillionmissing from the federal
government, we have two scamsgoing on.
One is $35 trillion of debt andthe other is $21 trillion.
One of the reasons you issuecurrency with the debt is if you
want to do a lot of secretthings, it helps to run

(01:39:34):
speculative bubbles and balloon.
It's a longer conversation thanthat.
The fundamental economic problemwe face is this the American
way of life was subsidized bythe American intelligence
communities, military andfinancial interests going around
the world and extractingresources and labor cheap from

(01:39:57):
the third world and the secondworld, and we were subsidized by
that plunder.
Now and if you want tounderstand the process, there's
a wonderful video on my websiteSir James Goldsmith came to the
United States in 1994.
He gave an interview to CharlieRose.
He was trying to talk Americainto not adopting and approving

(01:40:19):
the World Trade Organization andhe explained exactly what was
going to happen withglobalization.
But basically what he said isthe subsidy will go away to
subsidize the Western population, at which point the Western
population's economic footprintwill be radically reduced.
And that's what's going tohappen.
Instead of plundering the thirdworld and the second world,

(01:40:41):
they're going to plunder ourworld and reduce us to a much
smaller, lower economicfootprint.
So the problem is not so muchthe debt.
The problem is how theydramatically reduce the
lifestyle of the G7 nations.
That's the problem.

Speaker 1 (01:41:03):
Okay, let's go maybe two more questions.
We scheduled seven to nine sowe may go a little over.
Yeah, you guys both get one.
You mentioned earlier theCouncil of Foreign Relations.
Yeah, use the microphone.

Speaker 5 (01:41:19):
You mentioned earlier the Council of Foreign
Relations.
We have the Bilderberg, we havethe Illuminati, We've had
Freemasonry, We've got the BIS,as you mentioned earlier.
You know many people in thisroom might say well, Trump is
going to be the savior, butwe're talking about a new world
order.
So, like Biden is today, willhe be another puppet?

(01:41:41):
Which I think he probably willbe, and you might be inclined to
say that.
What was very telling for me iswhen Robert Kennedy spoke
yesterday along with Trump.
They talked about food andautism and they talked about
Ukraine, but no mention at allof the Middle East, Gaza.

(01:42:01):
So maybe you'll allude to that.

Speaker 4 (01:42:05):
So when Trump ran in 2016, he was basically saying
you know, rather than continuingto plunder the world, let's
rebuild America.
So my perception was there aredifferent factions and they do
have different visions of how toadapt, and I prefer the

(01:42:28):
Republican vision of how toadapt than the Democratic vision
, clearly.
So, um, you know.
So Trump talked a good you knowsort of game about making
America great again andre-engineering the federal
budget, and he did some thingsbut not other things.

(01:42:51):
And the reason he did somethings and not other things is
his hands are constrained by notjust, you know, all the
financial interests committed tocentralization, but the extent
to which the American supportwould not, the American
population would not supportreal change.
So you know, I told this story.

(01:43:12):
I've told it twice today, thered button story.
I won't tell it again.
If you're interested, go to mywebsite, put in red button story
and you can see it.
But essentially, you know, theAmerican people have expressed
their political desire for afree lunch again and again, and
again, and our way of life hasbeen subsidized and it's very

(01:43:36):
difficult to get the populationto move to a plan that would be
economic, and part of it is youhave so many special interests
that are making money, forexample, on poisoning kids, and
that's why Bobby and Trump weretalking about that.
So it's hard to turn theaircraft carrier, not just with

(01:44:00):
a special interest, but with thegeneral population.
Everybody's getting a check andeverybody wants their check, so
that's why it's so important welook at bottom up.
The corruption is very bad andso many people are making money
on the corruption.
Now, my problem with Trump is,if you look at what he did when

(01:44:25):
he was president, he deliveredthe worst shock yet that America
has experienced by giving youknow he let the central banks
give Wall Street $5 trillion andthen he helped shut down Main
Street.
He could have stopped that andthen he helped shut down Main
Street.
He could have stopped that.
Now I don't think he feltpolitically able to stop it

(01:44:47):
because the media was so strong,but let's face it he funded $18
billion to the military toauthorize a vaccination program
which has killed and disabledmillions of Americans.
That was Trump.
So you know, if you want to givethat, the question is, why did
he do it?
If you wanted to give that themost generous interpretation,

(01:45:11):
what I would say he's in asystem and he feels like he
can't.
You know he can't make thesystem turn if the system wants
more central control.
So and I'll be blunt, I thinkthe people who are doing Gaza
are very interested in financialtransaction control, and I
think the pressure on anybodywho goes into that position but

(01:45:34):
including Trump to get Trump tosell a digital ID through
immigration you know, dealingwith immigration or dealing with
election fraud the pressure onhim to get a digital ID by the
central bankers will be fierce.
Through immigration you know,dealing with immigration or
dealing with election fraud thepressure on him to get a digital
ID by the central bankers willbe fierce.
And the only way we can stop itis to push back hard.
And so it's not enough to justsay you know the Republicans are

(01:45:58):
going to solve the problem.
They're not going to solve theproblem.
The system is too ingrained.
If you look at what's beenhappening in the election, we're
having a competition betweencandidates on who can please
more billionaires.
It's a competition of policiesfor billionaires.
So to me it's always importantto vote and there are

(01:46:22):
incremental differences betweenthe candidates.
Clearly the Republican ticket,I think, is going to be
preferable to the Democraticticket.
At the same time, this can't besolved from Washington, because
Washington everybody inWashington makes money from more
centralization.
They're deeply vested incentralization and to think that

(01:46:42):
somebody like Trump can walk inand change that, I mean it was
amazing that he got the ParisAgreement canceled and the WHO
got us out of WHO and you knowthose were huge achievements and
he took a lot of flack fordoing that and it's probably one
of the things that brought onthe pandemic.
So it's kind of a mixed answer,but I think it matters that the

(01:47:07):
Republicans win.
I don't think.
I think we have to doeverything to make sure that
they don't lead us intofinancial transaction control.

Speaker 1 (01:47:20):
All right, one more, and then I'll wrap us up.

Speaker 7 (01:47:33):
Hi Hi.
All right, one more and thenI'll wrap us up.
Hi hi, uh, good thing youstayed away from kissinger and
the world, uh, cfr, yeah, andthen I'm talking about the club
of rome with that again, thatwas interesting as well.
So, um, what I'm curious is, uh, you know, I can't remember the
name of the law, but uh, wherethey made the distinction
between what you were justtalking about, legal tender and
legal money in the 30s and thenhow UCC title isn't applicable
back before, like 1938.

(01:47:54):
We're in a system of impliedconsent.
Now there's differentvariations, like some people out
there talking about.
You know, the QCIF, trust andall this, and there's this big
stockpile of money.
Some of it is BS.
But also learning about trustlaw, common law, which is
constitutional law, versusstatute law, which is corporate
law, why aren't you sharing orteaching on the private-public

(01:48:20):
factors and the ability they hadto backdoor in, to exit the
system?

Speaker 4 (01:48:25):
So the reason I've never invested a lot of time and
money into any of those issuesI spent a lot of time on common
law just because common law cameup a lot in my litigation with
the federal government.
I think common law is verypowerful and very important, and
I think common law is verypowerful and very important.
The reason I've never spent alot of time on those systems is

(01:48:47):
in my experience with theDepartment of Justice and with a
lot of the different federalagencies.
They don't obey the law, theydon't respect the law and I can
do let's say we say any of thesesystems where I can do those
systems all day long, but I'veseen how they play the game of

(01:49:11):
enforcement and I don't think inmy situation it will protect me
or accomplish anything.
It'll take a lot of my time andmoney and it won't accomplish
anything for me.
I believe the only way that wecan push back against what is
overwhelming, invisible weaponryand power is when we come
together.

(01:49:31):
In other words and I don't knowhow to come together under the
Constitution, which is to me themost powerful document in the
world after the Bible I don'tknow how to come together under
the Constitution other than as agroup, in transparency and
embracing fully the law andembracing fully my

(01:49:52):
responsibility to contribute tothe general pot, especially when
many people in the systemdepend on money out of that
general pot, and so that has tobe open and has to be
transparent.
I don't think there's a way outfor me or any individual, and
even if there is, under the lawthey won't respect it.
So anyway, so I don't.

(01:50:16):
I've always felt that it's notthat those don't have merit to
them, but it wasn't a goodinvestment for my time, because
I'm looking for something thatwill really work.
Yeah, I'm looking for somethingthat will really work.
You know, I used to.
One of my favorite quotes isfrom one of the presidents.
He said nobody is as smart asall of us, and we are going to

(01:50:38):
solve this with sharedintelligence combined with
divine intelligence, and thatrequires a certain openness, it
requires a certain transparency,but it also requires embracing
the Constitution and the commonlaw.
I think the common law is verypowerful.
So one of the things I want todo and you can read about it in
taxation is I want to assert acommon law right of offset for

(01:51:01):
$21 trillion against the NewYork Fed member banks.
Well, but let me just tell youa story.
And I settled the litigation andI got a huge settlement.
I won the litigation and atthat time the missing money was
$14,000 per person Now it's$65,000, but it was $14,000 per

(01:51:24):
person Now it's $65,000, but itwas $14,000.
And I got the money in and Iwas trying to pay all my debts
and repay everybody who'd helpedme and bonus out money to
everybody who helped me.
And I owed $14,000 on a creditcard to a New York Fed member
bank In fact, the bank that ownsthe largest percentage share in
the New York Fed.
And so I wrote them a letterand I said dear sirs, I owe you

(01:51:50):
$14,000, but you owe me $14,000as a taxpayer because there is
whatever the number was $4trillion missing from $14,000
per person and you, asdepository for the US government
has stolen $14,000 per personand US Depository for the US
government has stolen $14,000 ofmy money.
So I'm asserting a common lawright of offset.
You owe me $14,000.

(01:52:13):
I owe you $14,000.
I'm asserting a common lawright of offset against the
$14,000 I owe you.
Here is the name and mailingaddress and telephone number of
my attorney.
If you have a problem with this.
I'm happy to negotiate orlitigate.
Just give her a call.
Sincerely, yours, catherineAustin Fitz.
They wrote off the credit carddebt.
I never heard a word.

(01:52:33):
I'm sure they got me back on mycredit score, but I didn't care
.

Speaker 1 (01:52:41):
There you go.
We are not, excuse me, we arenot powerless here, my new
friend.
So, um, dwayne, if you canswitch to the last few slides I
have, I just wanted to.
I promised you guys to cast alittle bit of vision too.
And, um, if you guys have neverheard of mutual aid societies,
it is one of the most amazingthings erased from our history.

(01:53:03):
So if you were in the vipdinner, you heard me talk about
this.
But these, there were thousands.
Mutual aid societies it is oneof the most amazing things
erased from our history.
So if you were in the VIPdinner, you heard me talk about
this.
But there were thousands ofthese groups.
Some of them had hundreds ofthousands of members.
One of them had 600,000 members.
They could hire 2,000 doctorsand they charged people a day's
wage for a year's worth ofbenefits.
These were immigrants.
They were people who shared asimilar plight, they had similar

(01:53:31):
ethnicity and they built banksand hospitals and schools and
sports, and on and on and on,because it was people of a
shared vision coming togetherand saying you know what?
We don't have to live with nosafety net.
We can have each other's backand we can build something
special.
And we can build somethinglocal.
That book that's on the screen,from Mutual Aid to the Welfare
State, is how monopolistsbasically ruined and infiltrated

(01:53:54):
and legislated these things outof existence.
Most people I've talked to,some very, I consider, awake
people who hadn't even heard ofit, and when I mentioned it they
said, oh, communism doesn'twork Like.
This is capitalism, this is afree market.
These are people who cametogether and needed to do
something to make sure thatwidows and orphans were taken

(01:54:15):
care of, to make sure thatpeople had insurance and they
could have a doctor, and so onand so forth.
So we have an opportunity inour area, with even just the
people in this room, to be ableto say you know what?
We don't have to wait for theworld to melt down and just go
about our days hoping that thisgoes away and instead many hands

(01:54:40):
make light loads.
So I'm not looking for a lot ofmore things to do in my life,
but I'm not going to sit on thesidelines and tell my kids that
daddy was too lazy to stand upto this global tyranny, that I
was not going to do everything Icould to hand you a better

(01:55:00):
generation, a better life thanthe one that you got, because I
couldn't live with myself if Ijust rolled over for this one.
So I will continue to fight andif I'm the locust-eating
prophet in the wilderness andnobody wants to join me, I will
keep doing this fight becausethey're worth it and I hope that

(01:55:22):
you guys feel the sense foryour kids, your grandkids and
whoever comes after us.
We get to decide what world weleave them.
We get to take models that havealready been proven and say why
could we not do that?
There's no reason in the worldwe couldn't if we came together.
So go ahead and switch to thenext slide.
So this is a vision that I hadand ironically we're in vision

(01:55:45):
church, so maybe I should takethe slash out of there.
But the idea is simple not easyand there's a lot of complexity
when you get into it.
But the simplicity is the ideathat a church could be a really
good hub, because the church hasa shared moral values, it has a
physical location, it has anonprofit status, they can fund
ministries.
There are so many things achurch can do because it has a

(01:56:06):
cross-section of people andskills and churches that are
willing to serve as a hub forbuilding local sovereignty,
probably has a banker in it.
It probably has electedofficials.
It probably has a sheriff in it.
It probably has.
Go through the list of thethings we would need.
Somebody in our congregationscan solve almost all of the

(01:56:26):
challenges, and I know people indifferent businesses who are
all about sovereignty and theycan't find enough customers
because it's hard for us tochange.
Sometimes we don't want to pushthe big red button.
We don't want to go through theuncomfortable year or two of
what it would take to changethat.
Well, we can change that if wedecide to come together.
So that little hub or hub andspoke would have the church in

(01:56:50):
the middle and would have,basically, in my idea, six
different leaders and peoplethat can work on local financial
transaction sovereignty.
So we're not enslaved todigital systems.
We could have somebody workingon a food hub.
We could have somebody workingon pick, the area where we are
stuck, entangled in theirsystems, and we have the skills

(01:57:10):
amongst us and so, especially ifyou are empty nester or
retirement age, we could useyour help.
I'm pulling my weight as much asI can.
I'm an entrepreneur, with mywife and I homeschool six kids.
She does most of the work, butI'm an entrepreneur with my wife
and I homeschool six kids.
She does most of the work, butit's still a lot of work and,
gosh, we could use your hands inthe fight.
If you're going to go throughyour days, why not go through it

(01:57:32):
doing something that has alegacy play to it?
Why not roll up your sleevesand learn new things and do hard
things and help establish asovereignty hub?
Things and help establish asovereignty hub.
Hopefully, here we could be thelighthouse to demonstrate a
model that's already been proven.
Mutual Aid Society's alreadydid it.
We could do that too, if wedecide you know what, it's worth

(01:57:55):
it, and so my idea was maybe weget together once a quarter and
talk about this.
Maybe, if there's energy behindit, we find some leaders.
Maybe we can even have aninvestor that pays somebody to
have a salary to do some of thiswork that we could charge a
simple day's wage for a year'sworth of benefits and give
people something so we cancreate wealth, not just money,
but we can create health,vitality and spirituality and

(01:58:17):
better food and all the systemsthat are possible.
I love your story about how muchwealth could be generated if we
took the suppression of ourwealth away from us.
The earth does not producenegligible resources.
We could do so much if we justcame together and did it.
So that's my little soapbox,that's my little model, that's

(01:58:39):
my little pitch to you.
If you are interested insomething like this, then go
ahead and you can bring up thenext slide.
But in the back there's a placewhere you can just put your
name down, what email, phone,what's your skills, you have any
area of interest, and justremember that with God, all
things are possible, right?
So maybe once a quarter we gettogether, maybe we talk about

(01:59:01):
what it would be like to havethe individual hubs in this
spoke and how frequently we needto do it, and what kind of
amazing advisors exist in thisworld to help us steer around
some of the potholes and nothave to figure everything out
for ourselves.
So if that's an interestingvision to you guys, then let's
keep talking.
Go ahead to the next slide, gwen, and if you want to get up to

(01:59:24):
speed on what we talked about,read, watch, listen.
Top three things that reallyhelped me, or one of them's mine
.
But the book A History ofCentral Banking and the
Enslavement of Mankind.
The documentary Money orMonopoly, who Owns the World?
And for people who just want tolisten, I recorded a podcast
which is my synthesis of what inthe world is going on and how
do we stop it.
How do we come together.

(01:59:44):
So those are some resourcesthat have been helpful.
Hopefully you found thisconversation enlightening and
helpful.
Thank you, j.
Thank you very much.
Go ahead to the next one, bud.
So this is Catherine's website.
It is such an advanced, deepwell of information, as

(02:00:06):
technical or as simplified.
Just listening to her talk, Ilove it, cause I always pick up
new phrases Like that's so muchmore clear than what I've been
trying to say.
So that's follow this woman,study what she has worked so
many decades to package for us.
This is a very unique human whohas been through the ringer and
was vindicated.
When the freaking DOJ cameafter her, she won.

(02:00:27):
That's really hard to do thesedays.
In case you haven't figured thatout, that app we have an app on
the Apple store.
It's not out on Google yet.
We're still kind of in thetesting, just making sure we're
the first people that weofficially announce it to.

(02:00:48):
So that is our app in the appstore.
We also have.
You can go tohealingunitedtoday in the footer
.
You can put your email in thereand you could suggest that
picture on the right there Ifyou want to keep up with this.
If you want, if you're on thethe mailing list, when I talk
about these things you will getnotified and we will keep this
conversation going.
But please put your whetherit's there or the form in the

(02:01:09):
back.

Speaker 4 (02:01:10):
Please put your name down, if you think you want to
be part of it as anadvertisement.
I just have to say you've neverseen six healthier children.

Speaker 1 (02:01:18):
Yeah, we do know something about health.
That is our shtick.
I'm feeling the weight ofputting this together and a lot
of late nights and earlymornings to do this, but, gosh,
it's an honor to be in the roomwith you guys.
Thank you for staying this long.
I know Sunday night's like theworst night to get together, and
yet you came.
That was the only day I couldget, so you can blame her if you

(02:01:38):
don't like it, but we'llhopefully do it again.
This will not be the last timeI talk to Catherine, if I have
anything to say about it.
So thank you all for coming.
It's been great spending timewith you.
If you want to keep in touch,then we will be here and we'll
get it shut down shortly so thatthose of you who have kids at
home can get to bed at areasonable hour tonight.

(02:01:59):
But thank you all for coming.
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