Kim Rogers: The Worm Queen - Unveiling the Hidden World of Parasites and Embracing Holistic Healing - Deconstructing Conventional

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello everyone, welcome to episode number 44.
My guest today is the lovelyKim Rogers, who is also known as
the Worm Queen, and, as youmight imagine, today's
conversation is all aboutparasites.
Now, as gross as this topicseems, I don't think I've ever
had more fun or more laughsduring an interview.
Kim is just a delight to spendtime with and she has such a

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unique story.
I guess you could say she is aclassic example of waking up to
the limitations of the medicalsystem and how someone's pain
can become their mission.
And what's fascinating aboutKim is that she was a big deal
in the medical community andwhen her health challenges began
she had access to what sheperceived to be the best care
available.
And yet fast forward yearslater and she was basically

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abandoned by her profession andthe insurance companies.
And I won't spoil her storyhere, but suffice it to say that
the health challenges she waswrestling with were so serious
that she was getting her affairsin order because she was
expecting to die.
And, as you might imagine,she's in a very different place
now and her health problems werenot incurable.
What she had was an undiagnosedparasite problem that was

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completely overlooked anddismissed by the medical
community and if there's asilver lining here, it's her
background as a researcher.
That was part of what ended upsaving her life and, based on
the tens of thousands ofcustomers she has, I think we
can say she has ended up savingcountless other lives as well.
In this episode I tell a coupleof stories about my experiences
with parasite cleanses,including a foot-long tapeworm I

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passed about 10 years ago whileI was on a cruise.
But since then the topic ofparasites has been something
I've looked into repeatedly, andit's in the realm of root
causal factors that oftenexplain why someone is sick and,
like Kim's experience, it issomething most doctors don't
even consider today.
So, in case you don't know,some common symptoms of a

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parasite infection are thingslike brain fog or difficulty
falling asleep or staying asleep.
Teeth grinding is another one.
Kim was quick to point that oneout.
Other symptoms include anythingGI, as you might expect, so
constipation, diarrhea, excessgas, any sort of different
disease of the gut, rectalitching not surprisingly, but
being hungry or unsatisfiedafter a meal, a history of

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allergies or infections, skinissues like rashes or hives or
eczema, heightened anxiety orout of character behaviors are
also symptoms of a parasiteinfection and, as you'll hear in
this episode, tumors.
So wait until you hear thatstory.
So, after spending time with Kimand her content, not only am I
now convinced that the problemof parasites is much bigger than

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I had imagined, I alsounderstand the common problem of
false positive or sorry, falsenegative lab tests, and I can
look back on parasite cleansesI've done and I can now see why
they were not effective.
So if you've listened to myother podcasts, you might notice
that this is the fourth episodewhere I've brought up this
topic.
This is the only one dedicatedspecifically to that.
But in other words, I've beensearching for years for a

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parasite cleanse.
I could enthusiastically getbehind and checked all these six
boxes I had, so the first boxwould be effective, second is
gentle, the third isnon-pharmaceutical, fourth is
methodical, five is easilyadaptable and six is not
onerously complicated.
This is the first time I'vefound something that checked all

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six of those boxes, and that iswhy we now feature Kim's
products in our detox coursesand why my family and I use them
personally.
In fact, they're so effectivethat I passed pinworms in the
first 10 hours of the first dayusing it.
So anyway, another fun factabout Kim both her and her
company and their socialpresence.
Since they've become quitelarge, not surprisingly, I
suppose, censorship has becomean issue for them.

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So one of the platforms shecan't even mention the word
parasites without her postsbeing taken down, which I can
only assume is because she'spointing out a problem that the
powers that be don't want out inthe open and we can't can't
have people addressing rootcauses, because that would
remove the need for expensiveongoing treatment.
So, on top of the censorshipand this is the third guest this

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has happened to Kim's websiteand traffic were hijacked and
people were running ads to herproducts, but sending them
different products.
So if you wanted some moreevidence that she's doing
significantly needed work, thereyou have it.
So one last thing I want to sayto prepare you for this episode
is that we are never going tolive in a world free from
microbes and worms, but we don'tneed to be paranoid or

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germaphobic people either.
So there are simple strategiesfor cleansing and rebalancing
our internal environment.
Yes, parasites are a problem.
Yes, there is nuance to doingan effective parasite cleanse
and, yes, an uncomfortablecleansing response can happen.
But the problem of parasites isfixable, and one thing I can
tell you from experience is it'smuch more fun to do a parasite

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cleanse when you have somesupervision and the support of
other people doing it with you,and that is what our detox
programs are all about.
You can find out more aboutthem at our website,
healingunitedtoday.
So if you've never done aparasite cleanse, or if you have
and you didn't find it to beeffective, I think you'll really
appreciate this conversation.
I'll have some links in theshow notes where you can find

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out more and even get discountson Kim's products.
So get ready for someeye-popping stories, some
history you were never told, andbreathe in another episode to
affirm that your body is capableof healing your health problems
might be simply a parasiteproblem.
Okay, without further ado,enjoy my conversation with the
scrappy, generous and humble KimRogers.

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All right, hello everyone,welcome to today's show.
My guest is Kim Rogers, so letme tell you a little bit about
her.
She is an 18-year veteran of themedical community.
She worked in endocrinology andneurology, also in ER and
urgent care, and during her timein the medical world she was a
teacher at 25 differenthealthcare colleges.
Now she is the face and I'd say, tour de force behind the

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company Rogers Hood Apothecary,which is a company that educates
people about the overlookedproblem of parasites and a
company that produces effectiveand affordable products for
cleansing the body of parasitesand other microbes.
And her company has twoFDA-approved facilities in two
different states and they haveover 13,000 square feet where
they produce their detox kits tohelp people rebalance their

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bodies and build lasting health.
They have sold over 120,000detox kits and 40% of their
daily sales are from repeatcustomers, so she must obviously
be doing something right.
So, kim, I cannot wait forpeople to hear the story of how
you came out of the medicalworld into running your own
business.
So welcome to the show.

(06:30):
Thank you for taking the timeto chat with me today.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Thanks for having me.
I'm so excited to be here.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
Right on.
Okay.
So the first time we talked Iwish I had hit record, because
you have so many amazing storiesto tell.
So today I'm not making thatmistake, so, so today.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
I'm not making that mistake.
So tell the listener how in theworld did you go from a
successful career in the medicalworld, to realizing every
little girl's dream of becomingknown as the worm queen.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
I mean, at least I'm not the worm lady.
I got a crown out of the deal,right Something.
So what's the story?

Speaker 2 (07:06):
How did this all say I know some of it.
Give us the story.
Well, I worked in Westernmedicine since 2004 and I did
all the things I thought wasright for my body.
I had stage four demetriosis, Ihad a hysterectomy and 13
surgeries and I was really kindof just going through it with my
own health and my husband and I, in about 2019, decided that it

(07:27):
just wasn't enough and I wasn'tdoing very well and I was
starting to circle the drain,and so we got our affairs in
order and we happened to have arecreational piece of property
out in Hoodsport and we decidedto build a log home ourselves
like crazy people just the twoof us a log home ourselves like

(07:47):
crazy people, just the two of us.
A big change, but at least, ifsomething happened to me, my
husband wouldn't be left with amortgage and a lot of debt,
cause, as we all know, beingchronically ill is very
expensive, and so I had rackedup some bills and I just really
wanted him to be okay because Ireally was not doing well.
So we started to just look atalternative type of measurements
for myself.

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I looked at mushrooms, which Idid a lot of mushrooms.
I still take mushrooms to thisday and then I started kind of
digging in deeper once.
The mushrooms kind of helped meget a little bit better, more
normalized.
It just wasn't enough and I'mlike what is really wrong with
me?

(08:28):
I can't lose weight, my skinlooks terrible.
I was so bloated, I wasn'tgoing poop, which is really a
huge, scary issue when you'renot going to the bathroom and it
had been like 30 days, and so Ireached out to my doctors and
they were just like there'sreally nothing left for us to do
.
Have you tried psyllium husk?
And I'm like okay.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Right, what comprehensive advice Keep going.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
I'm like all righty psyllium husk okay.
So I kind of started to look atother options and I came across
a TikTok where a girl had saidthat she almost unalived herself
over worms.
And I'm like, whoa, wait aminute.
Like a few years before Ithought I had parasites.

(09:17):
Whenever I looked at mysurgeries it looks kind of crazy
inside my abdomen area.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
Wait back up for that .
Hang on.
You had the ability to look atand watch your own surgeries,
which is a whole differentanimal than most people, so tell
people that story, yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
Yeah, pictures, videos.
Like I was friends with most ofmy doctors because I usually
put employees that were mystudents in their facilities so
that when I would go in fortreatment I had really good help
, I was cared for.
But I always looked at thingsand thought, gosh, this just

(09:51):
doesn't add up to me, like my,this isn't adding up for me, and
so I started to look into otheroptions.
Now, like I said, about fiveyears before, I thought I had
pinworms, almost to a pointwhere they were going to do a
biopsy in an area, because I hada weird white spot that looked

(10:14):
like you know, and so theywanted to biopsy it.
And I said, well, gosh, youknow, I do get kind of itchy and
I've seen some other whitethings.
And she's like, yeah, we livein the United States, we don't
have worms, kim.
And I was like, well, I mean,what's the chances?
It could be that let's give ita few days, I'll come back, I'll
get the biopsy.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
I came back, nothing was there, and so I had research
, because I'm like 46 years oldand everything we do now we
screenshot it and we've beendoing that for decades, right,

(10:54):
and so I looked back and I hadscreenshotted colonics for worms
, like really so subconsciouslyI think I knew, wow, and you saw
, if I'm not mistaken, if thelast time we talked you saw
something moving around on oneof the videos of your surgery
that caught your attention isthat?

Speaker 2 (11:00):
right've.
I saw some things in my abdomenarea that had moved and I asked
him about it and they were like, oh, I mean, that's just scar
tissue.
And I'm like, okay, it lookedweird to me but okay, whatever.
So I just kind of startedputting two and two together and
sat down and I'm reallyfortunate because I do have two

(11:23):
healthcare degrees and I wasvaledictorian.
So I like to dig, I like tolook, I like to research.
It's kind of my jam.
And so I just started to kindof research more and I did a
parasite cleanse that was viralat the time.
I actually made it go moreviral because 10.5 million
people viewed one of my videos amillion the first two hours.

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It shut my phone off becausethere was so much activity going
on.
My phone couldn't keep up, soit completely shut my phone down
.
In July of 2021, after I haddone my parasite cleanse, I saw
liver flukes, pinworms androundworm in the toilet and
after three days I knew what waswrong with me.
Like, in that moment, I havegoosebumps.

(12:06):
In that moment I was like, areyou kidding me?
Like wait, this is it.
Like really, there's all ofthese problems that I was having
and this is it Wow.
So I mean and this is it Wow.

(12:28):
So I mean, this light bulb wentoff.
My husband and I were literallyhaving our whole family show up
the day.
I went viral over worms to helpstart the build and I just
looked at my husband.
I was like, you know, like I'mgonna have to keep on this right
, like I'm gonna have to bailnow because I'm really lucky
this is something that I cantalk about too.
Like I went viral over medicaland I love medical, I love the

(12:51):
human body and I love teaching.
So I'm like I mean I'm going todo this, babe and I just kept
making.
I've just been making videosevery day since.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
Yeah, for how long You've been making videos?
For how many years now?

Speaker 2 (13:03):
Since 2021, july of 21.
Well, I had a TikTok accountsince 2019, and it was to teach
people about mushrooms andbuilding a log home and just
building homesteading.
I was in the homestead TikTokand so I had a little following,
like 10,000 followers.
I have like 570,000 on TikToknow and like 280 on Insta, so we

(13:25):
have almost a well, we haveover a million across all of our
platforms.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
Yeah, I mean, you've been doing it every single day.
That's the remarkable part.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
Every day, because this needs to be talked about,
Like and it's not just aboutparasites.
This is about finding the rootcause before you go and do life
altering surgeries like I did.
I mean, I had a hysterectomywhen I was 29.
Like you can't, I have no kids.
You can't come back from that,you know.
So if you can do something thatcan help your body and and just

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give you a little bit of afighting chance, our bodies are
so overloaded with toxins thatit's not something that's talked
about, and I truly believe thatwe don't have an autoimmune
disease problem.
We have an environmental toxinissue that's causing these
autoimmune diseases, and theamount that we all have is just

(14:17):
out of control at this point,when really I was exposed to
mold and living in mold whilebuilding.
So it's like, all of thesethings that I'm clearing out and
all of these modalities I'mdoing and I'm showing people as
I'm doing them are helpful tokind of get your body and your
life back.

(14:37):
I mean, ultimately, that's whatthis is about.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Right, Well, and two other things you mentioned that
first time we talked was some ofthe other factors of your
health journey.
So you had been on Klonopin fora long time, like 22 years.
I think it was yeah For peoplewho don't know what that is.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
tell them what that is and what it does which I just
wasn't really dealing withbecause my health issues were so
bad and a lot of my PTSD wasbecause of my health issues.
I had somewhat of a botchedhysterectomy, so it was really a
lot of issues medical neglectso it was like I would take

(15:15):
something to push down thattrauma and the feelings that I
was having because my health wasso poor and I had.
My family.
Life is really great now, but Ididn't really get along.
I'm the black sheep, so therewas a lot of trauma there and
you know, instead of me goingand hitting it head on, I was
like I'm just going to take thispill to help my nervous system

(15:37):
and I'll get back to it Right.
And after so many decades ofbeing on it and then trying to
get myself off of it, it reallywas quite traumatic.
When I was getting off of it, Ihad a mini stroke.
I couldn't remember how to likehold forks and shower and walk

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and yeah, so I also was livingin mold at the time.
So it was like this ball ofhealth issues were just
declining for us, you know.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
So Wow, well, and I last see the first time we
talked about what it's likecoming out of the medical system
, because you were so involvedin that and then to recognize
they not only have no tools tohelp me, but they're also
dismissing what ended up beingthe problem.
So talk about that kind ofawakening or reckoning, or how
would you describe the comingout of that and realizing you

(16:32):
had to choose a different path.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
It was tough because it's all I've known for 20 years
Now.
I've always been very herboriented.
I've always thought that youknow natural medicine I mean as
natural as you can get whenyou're you know smoking and
stuff right Like it helped mecalm my nervous system.
You know, I feel like it waskind of a grieving moment for me

(16:56):
too, because it's all I've everknown and I felt really let
down, especially when I figuredout that I had Cryptosporidium
parvium, which is a parasitefrom the water at my log home
and it was in it's.
The water up there iscontaminated.
We had it tested.
Also, seattle's water iscontaminated.
We've had it tested.

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So that really is kind of aletdown too.
And the fact that, like, when Ireached out to my colleagues in
Western medicine multiplecolleagues in multiple States,
cause I've lived in multipleStates in my life they all just
dismissed me and I'm like, waita minute, like this is really
something that can easily befixed and I dedicated 20 years
of my life teaching people.

(17:38):
Did I teach them wrong too?
So there was this grieving partfor me when I had this medical
awakening, because it really isa medical awakening, it's not
just my body's awakened, it's Ihad to go through the process of
understanding that everything Ithought I knew, even my husband
, everything he thought he knewabout engineering and water.
When he realized that theydon't test for nematodes, he was

(18:01):
shooketh.
So it was like two shookethpeople just got together and
we're like, oh my gosh, what ishappening here?
Like how is this possible?

Speaker 1 (18:10):
You know, yeah, but at the same time you're getting
off the medication that kept youfrom being able to regulate
your own emotion and feel things, and so you worked your way off
that.
And if I remember correctlyfrom last time we talked, the
kind of the linchpin or the laststraw for you was when not only
had the people dismissed it,but the insurance companies just
basically refused to help you.
So tell people that story.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
So we were on COBRA because my husband left his job
and became my caretaker becauseI was that sick and I couldn't
do anything for myself.
So we got on Cobra and onceCobra was over, we got put on
state Medicare no Medicaid, andmy doctors refused to even talk

(18:51):
with me.
Apparently, it's illegal forthem to talk with their patient
once they're on state aid Ifthey don't take the state aid.
Well, I'm getting off ofKlonopin Like I was three months
in and they just bailed on meand I'm sitting there emailing
them.
I'm like I understand the laws,but like I'm a human being here

(19:12):
and I'm really strugglingknowing exactly what dose I
should go on next, because youknow we're well now.
We know we're living in mold,being pelted with parasites,
with parasites, and so weweren't really capable of
thinking for ourselves in thosemoments and we were doing our
best.
That's how I found out aboutAmanita, which is why you know

(19:32):
everything I have is Amanita,which is the red mushroom, is
because I learned how to breakAmanita down to make
benzodiazepine all natural,which is what the DNA structure
of Amanita is is benzodiazepine.
So I found a natural way ofsupplementing the Klonopin with

(19:53):
Amanita, but like that was onlyafter they they just like bailed
on me and they were like you'reon your own.
I'm like wait a minute, how amI on my own here?
I get it Like you're not goingto get paid.
I want I'm like we had moneyset aside going to get paid.
I want I'm like we had moneyset aside specifically to pay
cash and they were like can'tbecause you're on state aid, our
hands are tied.
I'm like how are your handstied?

(20:13):
I'm a human being begging youfor help right now.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
Yeah, and that's just .
My listeners are not unfamiliarwith the shortcomings, I guess
you could say, of the medicalsystem and how it's not hard to
argue at times.
It's really not looking out foryou, it's only looking out for
making you a customer for life,and on and on, and that's rough.
So thank you for sharing thatstory.
We've got more to come, but oneof the things I love to do on
this show is just define terms.

(20:38):
So people are, we're trackingwith us as we go through
whatever we talk about.
So you distinguish betweenparasites and worms.
So define the two and tell uswhat the difference is.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
Well, parasites are anything that feeds off a host.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
So it could be scabies, lice, crypto, which is
a microscopic parasite, which iswhat I have, which is parvo,
which kills puppies, woo andthen defragilis, which is what
my husband had, and giardia.
A lot of people are familiarwith the word giardia and it's
because of boiling your waterand making sure that if any

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pipes break that you know theysay boil your water and it's
specifically because they don'twant you to catch giardia.
But really that's a parasite.
A worm is physical, like likeroundworm, tapeworm, flatworm,
whipworm, hookworm.
Those are pretty normalPinworms.
Those are physical nematodes.
But they're all in the parasitefamily because they all live

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off of a host.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Okay, great.
And so there's some that arejust microscopic right, you need
a microscope to see them.
There's others that aremultiple feet long.
So how many?
What?
There's like 14 or so differentclassifications of parasites.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
Thousands.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
Okay, so underestimated by a factor of
many.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
Okay, there's like thousands that can live in our
body and they all have differentnames and they haven't really
been able to do because thisjust isn't something that's
researched.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
Right man.
Okay, so when most people thinkof parasites, they think of
things that just live in thecolon, but, as you know, there's
, they're all throughout thebody.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
So anything you want to say about that, yeah, they're
in our cells, they're in ourblood, they're in our tissue,
they're in our muscle and that'swhy it's so easy to catch them,
because we eat animals andanimals have them.
You know a lot.
They are on the ground walking,and so it's not, it's not
abnormal.
I mean this is very normal forus as humans and other countries

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recognize it.
Western medicine countries justdon't.
So Mexico requires their peopleto do like two times a year.
Some schools you can't get inunless you parasite cleanse with
their synthetic medicationsthat you can get at the pharmacy
for like seven bucks.
Jamaica does a tea called theBush monthly.
So this is a normal standardpractice in other countries,

(22:58):
just not in Western medicinecountries.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
Yeah, well, I remember I had a naturopath that
worked at one of our facilitiesand I told her about a parasite
story I had and she she's fromNigeria and she I told her about
it and she just laughed.
She said you Americans are sofunny, you guys think you don't
have parasites.
She's like all of you do, likeit's just normal to have this.
So it's normal, it's normal.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
You go outside and you ground and if you ground
which I fully believe ingrounding, but you should ground
in a specific area that you'vecleaned that dirt and make sure
that no other animals havedefecated there, because they
hold roundworm and hookworm, andit's normal.
This is normal.
Fish all have parasites.
From what I understand, becauseI live here in Seattle and I go

(23:41):
down to the pipe market andI've talked with them and
they're like looking at me likeI'm nuts, because I'm also what
fish, would you say, have andthey're like all fish, you know
all of them and closer to thebelly of the cut has more
parasites.
So this is normal.
It's just not normal for usbecause we've been indoctrinated
to think that the first worldcountry that we live in could

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never have this.
But in fact I live in a firstworld country and I got the
worst of it from my water,showering in my water, brushing
my teeth with my water.
I wear a retainer, so I wassoaking my retainer in the water
.
I was washing my produce in thewater, but I wasn't drinking
the parasite water.
I was drinking my normalreverse osmosis but just the

(24:27):
little exposure that we had wasmaking me even more and more ill
, and you're already ill goinginto the scenario, and now I'm
getting sicker and sickerbecause I'm being pelted with it
by my shower.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
Yeah, okay.
So two more terms I want todefine here are mucoid plaque
and biofilm.
So for people who don't knowwhat those are, tell them what
those are.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
Okay so and I'm going to tell you what we have as a
product.
That the reason why I knowabout all of this.
So we have a product calledGutty and it's a three day colon
cleanse slash mucoid plaque.
And mucoid plaque is basicallylike you know how you get plaque
in your arteries and your heart, you get that in your colon as

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well, because it's also like anartery, it's a smooth muscle and
it collects yucky.
It collects grease and grimeand then they love living in
that.
So they're all kind of hangingout inside of this grease grime
pit that you have going on inyour colon.
So if you can go in with thingslike chia seeds and psyllium

(25:30):
husk and then a negativelycharged herb like charcoal and
clay, which is what we use ingutty, it'll actually pull and
then kind of go in like a, likea brush and clean it out.
And pull it out and it's allblack and yucky and gross.
But I mean you feel better andespecially if you're not going

(25:52):
to the bathroom, it really kindof goes in and helps clean it
out like a pressure washer.
And then the other thing waswhat?

Speaker 1 (26:00):
I got biofilm.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
Oh, biofilm.
Okay, so biofilm is what theylive in and they can, they can
get like, basically it's a, it'sa one way film so they can
burrow into your muscle and yourtissue and also, um, surround
themselves with biofilm so thatit's hard for them to be exposed

(26:23):
and killed and pulled out.
And so we use a herb calledlongwort lichen.
It's foraged, it's in metalflush which is in the purify kit
, and it goes in and it breaksthe biofilm like a glass, like
shattering it, and then they'reexposed.
And then the herbs can go inand like clean them out and like
make them so that they'reexposed.
And then the herbs can go inand like clean them out and like

(26:45):
make them so that they'rethey're stealthy, like they can
be hit because of biofilm withsomething like lime.
Lime burrows in like a sparekey into your muscle and then
the biofilm covers it like abandaid so that it's hard.
But the the crazy thing aboutbiofilm is things can go through
it one way only, which is yournutrients?

(27:07):
feeding it, but it can't comelike out.
So you have to learn, you haveto break it.
And that's what probably thebiggest game changer for me when
I was doing these cleansesespecially because I was doing
them all on camera and peoplewere sending me stuff because,
let me tell you, it is expensiveto parasite cleanse and I
didn't have the funds to do thatwhen I was first on this
journey and people were sendingme stuff because, let me tell
you, it is expensive to parasitecleanse and I didn't have the

(27:29):
funds to do that when I wasfirst on this journey.
It was like $250 with all ofthe things that I put into this
kit.
That's about what it would costfor someone to really cleanse a
pretty decent cleanse,excluding cell core.
Cell core is even more thanthat, even more than that.
And so I didn't realize howimportant it was to have
something that broke the biofilm, because you're getting them

(27:51):
but you're not getting themreally good.
You're not like exposing them.
They're stealthy, like I said,and they're they're.
They don't want to go away.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
Yeah, no, they do not appreciate the eviction notice.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
No, no, their living rent free.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
Yeah yeah, rent free.
Yeah, well it's.
It's what I like about whathearing you describe.
That is, that somebody tooksomeone like you with a research
brain to say there's a system,there's a, there's an order at
which we go after this.
You can't just throw a bunch ofherbs at it that in a petri
dish maybe the parasite doesn'tlike or is poisoned by such and
such herb, but there's a wholeecosystem behind that and it

(28:24):
takes a systematic level ofworking to wipe that out so that
your body can rebalance it andget those guys to the exit.
So wonderful, and thank you forsuffering for the rest of us so
that somebody can figure thisout.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
I mean, I really am grateful that I've had the
opportunity to really likeutilize everything that I was
doing and learning, and itwasn't just.
This is one of my favoritethings about my kit.
I'm going to talk about it realquick.
Okay, so Parify isn't just youcould use those herbs, but what
I figured out is that herbs havea frequency and your ailments

(29:00):
have a frequency as well, and soif you can find what the
frequency is of the ailment, youcan partner it with an herb.
So the examples I always giveis when you're at an opera and
the opera singer gets her voiceto the same level to break glass
is because her voice became thesame frequency as the glass, so

(29:20):
that vibration broke the glass.
When you figure out what herbis the same frequency as that
ailment, you can shatter it, andthat's why I have so many
different types of herbs thatyou may never have heard of
inside of the Parify kit, likeUsnea.
Usnea helps with bad bacteria.
It's Mother Nature'sdoxycycline, so people that have

(29:41):
Lyme do really well on my kitspecifically because of that
tincture sustain.
I take it every day.
It's literally right herebehind me.
I take it when I'm not feelingwell and it's because it's going
in and it's helping thefrequency that's being disrupted
in my body to level it out.
And then the Lyme doesn't likethat, so it like okay, I'm

(30:03):
leaving.
You've made your bodyinhospitable and I don't want to
be a part of it anymore, so itleaves.
And so when you find out whatailment you have, it's okay,
because then you can match itwith an herb.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
Well, that's such a different paradigm.
I don't hear anybody in themedical world talking about
frequency, or very few people.
They have difficulty thinkingoutside the periodic table and
it's just the elements andbiochemical whack-a-mole or
moves and counter moves, butthey don't to think in terms of
frequency and chemistry, orlight and heat and motion and
the other aspects of physics.
It's.
I just love the way your brainworks.

(30:38):
You didn't come at it from a.
It has to be a chemicalsolution to this.
How do I poison it?
It was wait a minute.
There's all of life hasresonance to it.
What, what does that have toteach me?
Or what might I learn aboutthat?
So well done, investigator.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
Thanks.
I love frequencies.
When I had my mini stroke, it'sreally what got me through,
rewiring my subconscious andrewiring my brain so that I
consciously could make differentefforts than just putting a
bandaid on it with a pill, causewhat I was doing wasn't working
, what they were telling me todo wasn't working.

(31:13):
My blood work was normal, butI'm suffering, you know, and
it's like something is amisshere.
So what am I missing?
Cause this is it right.
This is your body.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
Yeah, you only get one.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
All you get yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
Right Well, and I can't tell you how many times
I've heard that my blood workcame back normal and the person
doesn't feel normal in any way.
There's so many things wrongand I've just started teaching
them like, if your blood work'snormal, that's great.
That's just the tip of theiceberg.
If the up in your blood, it wasa problem a long time ago and
the medical system doesn't lookfor you know what?

(31:49):
They can't test theinterstitial fluid and they're
not testing what's going oninside the cell and that's where
you, if you have dirty water orthe inside of your cells are
dirty.
That's where your problem isand you won't find that on a
blood test.
So can we go after the toxicityproblem, in your case, the
parasitic problem that'screating all this dirty water?
So well done, okay.
Well, let me ask you this,because most of the medical

(32:10):
world, or healthcare world forthat matter, just doesn't really
pay any attention to parasites,as we've talked about.
So, for the listener, give themsome symptoms that they might
be experiencing that could beindicative of a parasite
infection that they might nothave thought to correlate to
that grinding the teeth isalways my go-to okay, that one
is the one that I've highlightedis like what is it about
grinding teeth?

(32:30):
because they're like, okay, anitchy anus or other things, but
why grinding teeth in particular?

Speaker 2 (32:35):
because it's your nervous system and it's your
body, like the biggestindication that something's
going on.
We all have some form of a tmjat some point, but really it's
not.
It's you're grinding your teethbecause your lymphatic system
is so gunked up and your nervoussystem is telling you
something's wrong.
And so at nighttime, becausethey're they're nocturnal

(32:57):
creatures, so your your insomniaall night long, eating after 7
PM and staying up all night, andthen when you do sleep, you're
grinding your teeth.
It's because it it's yournervous system is just shot
because it's constantly in fightor flight.
When you have something in yourbody that is not regulating you

(33:18):
at a homeostasis level, it'sgoing into like the shock.
It doesn't know what else to do, and so that's a huge
indication that you haveparasites.
That's funny.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
That's the first thing you go to.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
Yeah, it always is, because I actually had braces.
I mean, I had really greatteeth before I got braces, but I
had TJ and I didn't want my jawbroken and I had TJ would be

(33:52):
aligned and my teeth look niceif I still grinded my teeth at
night, whatever, but at least Ihad great teeth.
I got something out of the deal.
But I don't grind my teethanymore.
I did correct it.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
But it's like just the thought of okay, well, we
can do a few things, but likewhat's the root cause?
What's the root of the problem.
That's really what I keep goingback to in life.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
Wow.
Okay, what are some othersymptoms people might have that
they might not think could berelated or a sign of a parasite
infection?

Speaker 2 (34:23):
Well, ibs.
So gut issues is a big one.
Anemia is a huge one because ofhookworm, because it absorbs
iron, so a lot of people thathave anemia should go get tested
or at least do a parasitecleanse and if you start to feel
better and your iron increases,you know what your root cause
was in that issue.
I would also say skin issues.

(34:44):
A lot of things like psoriasisand eczema can be candida, and
candida is also a parasitebecause it lives off the host
and controls your mind, makingyou want more and more sugar.
Mental health issues.
So a lot of people that havemental health issues can have
parasites.
Toxoplasmosis, which is the catparasite, which is also a

(35:04):
parasite that I talk a lot aboutbecause it's a mind controlling
parasite.
A lot of anxiety is a reallybig factor because your body's
never getting out of fight orflight.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
Yeah, that list you just came up with and we can add
other things to it, butessentially there's so many
symptoms that you could justspend a lifetime trying to play
whack-a-mole with and never getto why you have that and just be
endlessly chasing your tail.
So give me.
You had a couple of examples Ithink one of your posts or
somewhere on your site aboutjust how the medical world or
maybe it's our conversationwhere you said they're not

(35:41):
actually going after anysymptoms, they're just creating
labels, not going after rootcauses.
And two you mentioned werelimes and pandas.
So tell people what pandas isor say anything you want about
lime.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
Well, I have both.
I have pandas and I have limePandas actually is somewhat of
my root cause, and then theseare all co-infections.
So I had strep in my brain andI think it was like three weeks
ago that I realized a lot ofthings by sitting down.
Now we'll go back to yourquestion.
But if I had not gotten rid ofthe parasites and realized I had

(36:16):
been living in mold, I wouldnever have gotten to my all of
the co-infections and all of theroot causes, been able to at
least get myself to a normal,stable life again yeah that's
ultimately what this is allabout, right being my own
patient advocate, finding outwhat's wrong with me and then
sharing it with the world.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
So yeah, well, that's kind of what you had to do.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
Yeah, totally.
I mean, at what point do youjust want to give up?
I did not want to give up.
I'm 46 years old, I have areally long life ahead of me and
I was going into a chapter ofmy life where I was building my
own log home that I designedmyself, and it was like I didn't
want to miss that.
So I was willing to fight forwhatever it took to continue

(36:57):
down that dream, which we'redone, and our house is beautiful
and I'm really thankful and wedid it ourselves.
And you know, I mean you lookaround, I live in an apartment
because we had to finish thathome, but when you look around,
you're like I liked it, everysingle thing in this house.
I picked everything out, I putevery nail in with my husband

(37:17):
most of the time.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
Yeah, well, I wanted people to hear that because
there's it's so easy to justfeel like you've been wrung out
by the medical world or thealternative world and they have
nothing to offer you, and it canleave people with the feeling
of something wrong with me andI'm the problem.
And and you had another gear ofof learning how to research the
, preempting this problem orpreempting the it coming to a
head that spared you going downthat hopeless route, and there's

(37:44):
a grit that you had.
So I guess, as much as anything, I want the listener to muster
some of that as well and maybetake a look at something that's
been dismissed or overlooked fora long time.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
Because it's easy to dismiss right, especially
because I think we've believedso heavily in Western medicine
and the indoctrination that hasdone with not just the doctors,
but it's a practice.
That's why it's called medicalpracticing, and I think the part
that everyone is somewhatfrustrated with, including
myself, is that they're just notwilling to dig a little deeper

(38:18):
and I think that a lot ofdoctors that go dig deeper get
kicked out and their colleaguesare really awful, and that's
what happened to me, mycolleagues.
I don't speak with them anymore, so it's like well, that's fine
.
I have a way better communitywhere I'm getting more
information to help my body toturn around and help others, and

(38:40):
I feel like that that's thebiggest thing for me is one I
never want anyone to do thisalone.
I never want anyone to feel orbe alone because you're not.
I felt isolated and alone.
I'm out in the woods literallyalone trying to figure this out,
and I didn't have the peoplethat I'd been with for 20 years
helping me, and so it was like Ivowed that if I ever got a

(39:03):
platform which I have now that Iwould make sure that people had
one options to just try acleanse.
Try these herbs.
We're third party tested, we'reall natural.
We're ethically sourced.
We make it affordable.
Yeah, like who has money to goand do cleanse after cleanse

(39:23):
after cleanse?
Even when I was tested positiveand I showed the positive labs
that we had the insurancecompany, it was crazy expensive
for an anti-parasitic pill.
It was like $999 for six pills.
Yeah, who makes that kind ofmoney?
To just fork over for threedays?
Oh my gosh.

(39:44):
I could have gone to Mexico ona vacation and just gone to
their pharmacy for like sevenmonths, which is what we ended
up doing the next year.
We have like a year supply ofanti-parasitics at our house
because we moved here and thisis how I know that you can get
even sicker when you're peltedwith bad water.
So we moved to seattle, um, indecember of last year.

(40:06):
So we've been here a year.
We didn't have filters on ourwater and I started feeling like
I was going into remission.
We had filters on our sink butwe didn't have filters on our
shower because we hadn't gottenthem in yet.
And I took three showers hereand then we went out of town and
I started feeling like I wasgoing into remission.

(40:28):
Well, I was, because I wasfelted with nematodes.
Because we tested the water, weshowered like we didn't have a
choice.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
You know you got to, not, you can't skip bathing,
right?
Yeah, totally Okay.
Well, you've mentioned some ofthem, but this is just for the
listener.
We kind of put them on onestretch here, the different
places you can acquire parasites.
So you talk about being outsidebarefoot and being on grass or
whatever earth might haveanimals pooping on it.
What about?
A lot of HOAs have taken tousing reclaimed water for the

(40:57):
sprinklers.
Is that?
Are they just keeping thisproblem going?
Basically, it's reclaimed sewerwater they're using to spray on
the lawns for the sprinklers.
Is that?
I'm assuming that's like aforehead face palm moment of?
Seriously, that's what we'redoing.
Would you be concerned aboutthat or want to have that tested
?

Speaker 2 (41:16):
I mean, I honestly wouldn't be as concerned about
that as them just using wellwater.
Because, with reclaimed water.
They're filtering it Just likeon a cruise ship.
They're taking the water fromthe ocean and they're filtering
it just like on a cruise ship.
They're taking the water fromthe ocean and they're filtering
it, which means they'refiltering it through a five
micron or smaller filter whichis removing everything.

(41:38):
So it's almost like it's betterfor them.
I'm not.
I'm not advertising this partat all in life.
Trust me, you shouldn't beusing reclaimed water.
There is enough water out therethat we shouldn't be using
reclaimed water.
There is enough water out therethat we shouldn't be using it,
but they probably are filteringit better than most of the water
that I've had.
I've tested with the lab that Iwork with as well, as I've

(41:59):
traveled around the country andI have filters that are clear
and I do a lot of videos showingwhat your water looks like
because of the pipes and oncethey're just like our guts and
just like our bodies, once theyget into that pipe, you can
never get them out.
Man.
It is like they, it's likemucoid plaque all up inside the
pipes.
You know they're living inthere, they're doing their job,

(42:23):
they're breaking down issues,they're breaking things down.
That's what worms and parasitesare meant for.
However we're also meant to knowthis information.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
So but I would say, like for us in Hoodsport they
have a community.
Well, that they think is justthe best ever.
And when we brought this totheir attention, as well as the
state of Washington, they cameout and they tested it and it
came back negative on theirspectrum.
But in my lab we've tested itmany times still, even after

(42:56):
they tested it, and it came backnegative with them.
We tested it again and it cameback positive with them with my
lab.
So it's like, okay, explainthat.
Like, is it because mine gotsent to Mexico and their
specific parasitologist andyours is a zoologist who really

(43:17):
is like, oh, I'm going to defendthe water to my death, like I
don't?
know you know like what wouldhappen if they came back and
they were like listen, 5,000 ofyou have all been caught.
And you can see, when you gointo my town where my log home
is, you can tell they have worms, like it's 100%.
You walk up and you're like yo,you're old and you have worms,

(43:40):
like I can see it.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
What is it that you observe in someone where you go?
Oh worms, how do you visuallyfind that?

Speaker 2 (43:48):
Well, I've diagnosed a few people.
Not medical advice, but I have.
I've been like have you everbeen tested for like a worm?
And when I was on a cruise andher name is Olympia we're really
good friends now because shewas like our bartender and I was
sitting there and I looked ather and I was like, oh, just
don't look, you're on vacation.
And she and I was sitting thereand I looked at her and I was

(44:16):
like, oh, just don't look,you're on vacation.
And she, she and I startedtalking and she goes, actually,
and she handed me her labs and Isaid, oh, so you have a
tapeworm?
And she goes oh, my God, yes,how did you know?
Circles under the eyes, hairloss, and you said, dog had a
parasite, and you were cuddlingwith your dog and you guys now
have the same like hair loss inthe same area.
I'm like pets.
If you don't deworm your dogsand your cats and you don't

(44:37):
deworm your pets, you haveparasites like hands down, I
will die on that cross.
You have parasites.
I got parasites from my dogswho had parasites and there was
a few times we forgot to dewormthem that month and, like you
know, it happens.
It happens they drink out ofpuddles which are full of

(44:59):
parasites, because this isnormal yeah, that's what animals
do, so okay.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
well, I was going to tell you to break it gently to
people if they have cats or dogs.
So for those of you cat and doglovers, yeah, sorry, not sorry,
at least you know about thisGentle way of doing this Right,
gentle, rip the bandaid off.
Yeah, but at least you mighthave a new set of lenses to look

(45:24):
for causal factors here.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
So yeah, like it's all fixable.
I mean, that's kind of what isso great about one, my platform
and why I push so hard isbecause there really is an
answer at the end of theconversation, at the end of this
spectrum that we're talkingabout, and that's kind of like
the same with mold People havemold poisoning.
I lived in a moldy trailerwhile building my dream home and

(45:49):
running a Rogers hood businessabout parasites.
I got off my parasite cleansefor about seven days and my eyes
started to swell shut and Ididn't know what was going on
with me.
It was really scary.
I lost half my hair, um, mybrain fog was intense and then I
realized it was about fourmonths in and I'm.
All of this is documented.

(46:10):
That's the crazy thing is, thevideos will pop up from 2022.
And I'll look at them like, ohyeah, there's my mold poisoning
Cause.
My eyes are so swollen shut.
But I was kind of not realizingit because wormwood can
suppress the spores in thesystem, because that's just what
it does.
It's not an anti-mold, it's asuppressant.

(46:33):
So if you don't know, you're inmold and then you're doing like
a parasite cleanse withwormwood and then you get off of
it and your symptoms are justskin and hair and it goes wild.
You're in mold.
Like you're in active mold, andso that's kind of the fear with
a lot of mold people is thatwhen they do parasite cleanses,
that they're suppressing themold.

(46:54):
But in fact it's a good thingyou're doing that because you're
ramping up your immune systemwhile they're dropping the
spores in your body, becausethat's what they do Parasites
can hold six times their weightin spores and heavy metals and
toxins, and that's why we use somany herbs when you're
cleansing, because each herb hasits own responsibility.

(47:16):
And so then when you're done,you know, usually you do two to
three parasite cleanses and thenyou can hop into a mold cleanse
and our mold cleanse just helpsboost your mitochondria while
sweeping out the spores, andit's very gentle.
It's the same system as our.
Parify.
Moldy is the same system as theparasite cleanse.

(47:37):
I wanted to make it as easy aspossible, especially because
mold is very difficult.
It's very painful, um, you havea lot of emotions that are tied
to mold, so Wow.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
Well, and I had asked you earlier cause people were
asking me if they could combineyour two kits and I liked that.
You had a sequence Like Ididn't know until you told me
that that the parasitesthemselves hold the spores and
you've got to get rid of thesource.
So you got to get rid of theparasites first, then you can
start going after the mold, somold, so it's another level of
thoughtfulness.
It's just fun to have somebodywho's solely focused on

(48:11):
something like this at a rootcause level that can do it.
And, by the way, if you guyshave not followed her on social,
it is worth the listen.
By the way, I blame you for theseared image I have in my head
of like a grizzly bear shaking agiant tapeworm out of his butt.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
I did not need to see that, but thank you, they eat
better salmon than us, so thinkabout that.
They eat.
They eat more fresh, they eatbetter than we do.
And look at what they have now.
Um, I put Hawthorne in theParify kit specifically because
I saw so many tapeworms.
I was shook.
I was like kit specificallybecause I saw so many tapeworms.

(48:50):
I was shook.
I was like how is this possible?
I guess three out of fivepeople have tapeworms.
Now, I don't have a tapewormand I feel for anyone that does,
because, man, it's a beast Ifyou have a tapeworm.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
I had one.
Well, 10 years ago yeah, about10 years and one month ago I
passed a parasite, a tapeworm,by foot long, on a cruise ship
and my wife can verify the storybecause she got to see the
physical evidence of it.
It was like I to that point Ihad no idea, the thing was even
in me.
But she really got meinterested in parasite cleansing
after that point and I haven'tuntil meeting you, I haven't.

(49:20):
I've tried different ones andhaven't found something.
I was ready to put my face ormy force behind because I just
haven't felt they've done thejob.
And seeing what you've puttogether for so many years is
like, oh, finally I can actuallyhelp people because sometimes
it's brutal.
The cleanses people go through,either onerous financially or

(49:40):
the physical hurt symptoms orthe unpleasant nature of die off
.
It's just it can wreck you, andbracing people for that or
shepherding them through thatwithout the being able to
supervise it enough and withoutsomething I know is going to be
like systematic at workingthrough it.
So I guess, if nothing else,I'm saying thank you for helping

(50:00):
me solve this for so manypeople.
But well done.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
I mean it is difficult it is it's?
even as gentle and as many herbsand as many things as we put
into the Parotify kit, it'sstill.
You still have die-offs, youstill have to do a few changes,
but it's as gentle as you canpossibly get and effective.
That's the thing is it's soeffective because of the

(50:27):
thoughts of the herbs that I didand they speak to me like I'll
just give a little background towhen I first was going through
this and I was getting off of mybenzos, I did a lot of
mushrooms like days and days anddays where I would sit for six,
eight hours and meditate, dayswhere I would sit for six, eight

(50:50):
hours and meditate, and Ireally learned how to do things
with my mind and kind of talk tomyself internally because
obviously externally no one washelping me.
So, I really had to dig deep andI feel like that plant medicine
helped me to an extent where itgot me familiar with the way
the plants were around me,because a lot of the herbs that
I put in the kit were herbs thatare on my property, like usnea

(51:12):
hangs from the trees, plantain,which will be in our lymph kit,
that is on my ground, andlungwort is all over.
Because they work, they allwork together.
And so I just kind of tappedinto earth and mother nature and
just really had her like sitwith me and talk with me and
guide me on what should be done.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
Wow, yeah, and I remember we did a program my
wife and I built called thesovereignty project.
We had a whole module on justhealth care at home and the idea
that nature's pharmacy isconstantly around us.
And there's we got these big,thick books on how the Native
Americans used plants and allthe different plant medicines,
medicines, and sure enough thatthe nature knows how to balance
itself and we are the ones outof balance with it.
And when you have a mind likeyours to go to work and and

(51:55):
figure out the simpler, oh gosh,this is so much easier way to
do it.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
yeah, it's wonderful and your body knows how to
process the, the plants.
I don't know if you've everheard this, but the DNA cells
that we shluff off.
Mother nature grows plants tohelp you.
So my property has a ton ofOregon grapefruit, which we also

(52:20):
use and sustain, and theproperty next door does not.
Now, I don't know what thatmeaning is, other than you know
maybe my property has moreparasites than others, but
plantain we have a lot of fungusme and my husband and we have a
ton of plantain plant dandelionroot.
I don't have a lot of dandeliondandelions on my property, but
the lady next door does, and shetakes heart medicine.

(52:42):
So it's like, wow, how muchdoes earth really help us?

Speaker 1 (52:46):
Yeah, what a fun set of concepts to noodle over.
I love it.
Okay, well, so zoom out.
So the official numbers.
I guess if you look it up onwhat how widespread parasite
problems are, give us thosenumbers and give us your
estimate on how widespread thisproblem really is.
What percentage of people wouldactually have a parasite
problem?

Speaker 2 (53:07):
So they say that 85 to 90% of Western medicine
country people have parasitesand it's around 1.5 to 2 billion
people.
Now that's just documented.
So when you passed a tapeworm,if you didn't go to the doctor
and they didn't document it,then it didn't go into the

(53:28):
statistics.
So my statistic is not in thatnumber because when I tested
through my independent lab andthen the same stool went to
LabCorp, labcorp came backnegative and Parasitesorg came
back positive.
So that means that my numbersare not inside of that statistic

(53:49):
because those are onlydocumented, and they're only
documented that they agreeshould be documented.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
Yeah, wow, okay.
So if somebody isn't or hasnever done a parasite cleanse,
or hasn't done one in recentyears, you can pretty much just
default to the assumption thatyou do have them and it's just a
matter of what point itproduces symptoms.
Is that fair, right?

Speaker 2 (54:08):
Yeah, okay, fall to the assumption that you do have
them and it's just a matter ofwhat point that produces
symptoms.
Is that fair, right?
Yeah, okay, so one of the mostexposed sorry, we're all exposed
, so that's the thing is thatwe're exposed every day to
parasites, so the likelihoodthat you have them is very high,
and if you don't think that youdo, then spend more time with
Kim and yeah, you'll beconvinced, yeah, so okay.

Speaker 1 (54:29):
So the you tested a bunch of water and I think I
believe you said it was 100% ofthe water you've been able to
test everywhere 75% of the waterthat's been tested has come
back positive in our country.
And the tests you've doneyourself have been.
Have you found any that havenot been tested positive?

Speaker 2 (54:48):
They've all tested positive.
That I've tested.

Speaker 1 (54:51):
Oh man, okay.
Well, so one of the mostshocking things you said to me
when we talked last was that youhad a CIA document from 1950.
I think it was declassified in2011.
Is that right?
Okay, and so that.
So she sends me this document,cause I wanted to see it, and
it's it.
The first two sentences smackme across the face and it
sounded like your story.

(55:12):
So it says endoparasites andmalignant tumors resemble each
other in many respects, soparasites and tumors look like
each other.
This suggested a long time agoin regard to the parasitic
nature of tumors.
And so this is a 1950.
And they're saying a long timeago we knew that parasites and
tumors look like each other.
The only other date listed inthat document or earlier date

(55:33):
anyway, it was from 1938.
So that's 86 years ago thatthey knew about this connection
between tumors and parasites.
So my, my thinking brain goes towhy in the world would that be
classified information, and whydoes the CIA need to keep this
under wraps?
And I can only come up withthree theories, and none of them
are good ones, so help me withit here.

(55:54):
Like why would we need to havea classified document that
points out something that everydoctor should be aware of Right.
Right, you're gonna let me seeyour eyes on it.
You're not sure?

Speaker 2 (56:06):
I mean, you know, uh, rockefeller changed the way
that we did medicine in 1924.
Um, personally, I think we'rekind of experimented on a lot
more than we should be.
Um, it's not rocket science howthe body operates and there is
a lot of things that we can dodifferently.

(56:27):
And I, after I saw that, ithelped guide me it wasn't really
something that was a hugereason in 2021 that I did the
videos that I've been doing.
It wasn't really until a couplemonths after I went viral that
I was like wait a minute.
In 2016, when I was digging onthe dark web which that's a

(56:50):
whole nother story I found thatand it just was.
One of the few things that I'dactually kept on my phone as a
screenshot was that document.
And then I was laying in bedand I looked Someone had sent me
.
I was so mad at myself.
They sent me an email and Ican't find it where a book in

(57:13):
World War II was found from thefifties.
And I was like, all of a suddenthis light bulb went off and I
was like, oh my God, I have adocument, let me go look.
Literally, I was not feelinggood that day.
I got up and I startedsearching my flash drive,
searching my laptop, searchingmy phone, and I found my
document, the only document thatI could find from 2016.

(57:35):
When I found that, Wow, yeah,so there's.

Speaker 1 (57:39):
I mean her mention of Rockefeller medicine.
You guys, if you've listened toepisode two of my show, then
you know that term and you'refamiliar with the idea that
there's a centralized,monopolistic health care system
that really is just more moneyand control focused and it keeps
doctors in shackles.
And one of the things I wantedto ask you is how much our

(57:59):
doctors, or the medical system,or I don't even know the
alternative world how educatedare they to look for or identify
this problem of parasites?
Is anybody in the medicalsystem really trained in that?

Speaker 2 (58:09):
No, no, we're trained in finding a medication and
finding the symptom.
We're trained in looking at thebody with an ICD-10 code, which
is how insurance runs.
We were trained withunderstanding medications and a
lot of my training wasself-trained.

(58:33):
But also I went to a lot of bigpharma dinners where they would
talk about the human body butwhat their answer was to fix the
problem.
And some of the things that Idid in the field were really
cool, like I helped with MS andTysabri and developing that once

(58:53):
a month IV therapy for MSpatients.
But like, how difficult wouldit be to do some alternatives
with them?
You know what I'm saying.
Like mushrooms, like turkeytail man, turkey tail breaks
down not medical advice, buttumors and they give it to chemo
patients and it helps boostyour immune system and it's like

(59:14):
not really something that ishurtful to take, but in a money
aspect it is, you know.
And so I feel like we've allkind of lost our way in the
world that we're in right nowand I do feel like there's some
refocusing of health andunderstanding, you know, making
America healthy again.

(59:35):
But like, if that doesn'thappen, at least people got
awakened to the health.
And that's what we all need toreally have is a medical
awakening, not just an awakeningor the awakening we need to
have a medical awakening becauseit just an awakening, or the
awakening we need to have amedical awakening because it all
stems back to your body.
It's all about this one templeyou get.
You lay your head down at night, did you do your best to this

(59:55):
body?
But that's not their goal andwe weren't trained that way.
And I did my best when I was aprofessor and I ran 25
healthcare colleges for DeVryand I wrote curriculum that
they're still using.
I really did my best to havepeople teach their patient how
to do their best because, whenit comes to this, people don't

(01:00:17):
understand their own bodies andthat's really a misfortune.
We're teaching people in highschool how to do things you'll
never use, but we're notteaching people in high school
how to eat right and you know,use red light and use vibration
and workout and how important itis to move your body and take
natural herbs.
Rockefeller did what he didbecause one of money.

(01:00:40):
Two, because it's easily to.
It's easy to drive syntheticmedications versus going and
getting a plant and it's cheaperto do synthetic medications
than to go and get a plant.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
Right, well, and that's what I like about your
formulation.
The first one I saw there wasthis comprehensive, systematic
way, but you also you chose tomake tinctures instead of just
dry and powder a bunch of herbsand stick them in a capsule.
So talk about the differencebetween, or why you chose that
method of preparation for peoplewho don't know the differences
of how to prepare herbs.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
Well, tinctures, you have to soak them for like five
to eight weeks to remove all themedicine from the plant.
And then we also learned whichplant is a water-based.
So some plants arealcohol-based and some plants
are water-based and some areboth.
So it's called a doubleextraction.
Mushrooms are a doubleextraction, so a lot of my

(01:01:37):
knowledge is because ofextracting with mushrooms.
When you take a pill, it goesinto your stomach acids and if
you have parasites, not all ofit actually is being absorbed.
But when you have a tincture,all of it is because it's
readily available.
It's immediately going into thebloodstream, which is really

(01:01:58):
where parasites are not justyour gut, they're in our blood,
and so it's immediately and itdoesn't have to fight with
anything.
Our blood, and so it'simmediately and it doesn't have
to fight with anything.
So it just goes right in, rightaway, absorbs right into your
mouth and it actually helps withyour mouth health too.
So you're kind of getting morethan just oh, I took a pill and
then I have to wait for it tolike, absorb and then get into

(01:02:20):
the blood.
No, it's instant.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
Yeah, no, that's what I've.
I've done other parasitecleanses and haven't found much
success or much like show.
I had one like hot fire, bowelmovement.
I'm like what was that?
So maybe that was somethingother than that.
It was like, well, what wasthat all about?
Like there's nothing to showfor all of this and to be able
to know, okay, that's it's, wedon't.
We're not just reliant on theGI tract that may be gunked up

(01:02:45):
anyway to try to extract somevalue for these herbs.
You've got a whole system ofhow to do that.
So, okay, well, a couple thingsI want to ask.
Just practical Talk abouttesting.
Given the reality that mostpeople likely have them, is it
worth doing testing or do youjust kind of assume it's there
and go through the processanyway?
Or what would you say aboutgetting whether your water or

(01:03:05):
your body tested?

Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
You should just do it .

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
Just do it Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
Yeah, other countries like Mexico, they just it's
like twice a year.
They're like all right or withsymptoms.
So if you're doing a parasitecleanse even if it's not mine
and you get off of the cleanseand you still have symptoms,
that's symptoms.
So you want to get right backon it.
And I did 30 days specificallybecause I don't want people to
waste the money.
If you get on it and you'relike, oh, I just can't dedicate

(01:03:33):
30 days, then you don't havenine, nine months worth of
product.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
And then then there's no waste of herbs.
And so, overall, 30 days isjust your starting point.
But other countries realizethat when symptoms arise, that
they take their antiparasiticand symptoms calm down.
But they do it in a system likeHCQ with Iver.
So you know, they know whatthey're doing and they can

(01:04:00):
easily master it themselves.
They don't need to go to adoctor.
That's really where we're atLike.
Not everyone wants to go to adoctor.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
That's that's really where we're at Like, not
everyone wants to go to a doctor, right?
Well, even the going to doctors, I've had several different
handful, several, three, fourdifferent doctors that we've
talked about this and they saythey've tested their patients
and almost every single time thetest comes back negative.
And so, like I don't, I don'tperceive the need to do that.
So talk about this problem offalse negatives then.

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
Okay.
So because I come from thisworld and I taught lab people,
that was one of um one of mycurriculums that I actually
helped set up they get threeminutes and it's not some like
guy in a white coat like lookingat it no man, it's like they
get three minutes If they don'tsee anything move.
They don't see anything theyrecognize with their own eyes in

(01:04:49):
the microscope.
It's done.
However, if you look at thebottom of your lab slip, it says
this is not in lieu of aparasitic infection.
So, they're out.
Right, they got their out, theygot their asterisk, they got
their fine print and they don'thave to be responsible anymore.
Print and they don't have to beresponsible anymore.

(01:05:09):
The lab tech dude or chick thatyou know, some of them have
been around a long time in thatfield, some of them have not.
You just don't know threeminutes.
And if they don't see anything,if they don't recognize
anything, if nothing's moving,negative and they're out.
So the only way the insurancecompanies are going to pay for
medications that are stupidexpensive, which are seven bucks

(01:05:32):
in Mexico, is if it comes backpositive.
So if it comes back negative,then your doctor is not going to
look at it anymore and they'reimmediately going to go.
Oh yeah, well, it came backnegative.
Yeah, well, it came backnegative.
But they also didn't test youduring a full moon and they
didn't run a blood test that haseosinophils in it, which is
your indication that you haveparasites, mold, candida or a

(01:05:56):
high elevated count of some kindin your cells.
That's what an EOS on yourblood work means.
So they're not doing your stoolwith your blood work during the
full moon and full moon thing.
That is legit.

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
I can go over exactly why I'm baffled at why that's
relevant, but I don't dismiss iteither.
So educate us.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
So well, let's, I'll finish the labs.
So, once they go through the lab, once they mark it negative and
that's done.
They're relying on that becauseyour doctor's not going through
your stool or doing a liveblood analysis, which is silly,
because we should be doing alive blood analysis, which is
they draw your blood and theylook at it.
Right, then they give it time.

(01:06:42):
I'm actually going to go do onein Seattle here in a couple of
months just to see, because I'mdoing some other experimental
procedures because I do havepandas and encephalitis, so I'm
doing some other coolexperiments that I'm going to
videos for people.
But, the live blood analysisreally should be something that

(01:07:03):
we're doing once a year, so itgives you an accurate, right
then present result.
And that's just not somethingthat you know the insurance is
ever going to pay for, andthat's ultimately what this is
all about is what the insurancewill pay for.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
Yeah Well, I can imagine that.
I just think of the lab techfactory of like.
Here's another thing of poop Igot to look through and it's
just three minutes yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
It sits there.
So when you do it, you're notrefrigerating it.
They're not giving you theexact way to do your collection,
which is you're supposed to doit for four days.
You get two vials.
You scoop a little bit in thefirst vial, put it in the
refrigerator.
Then you scoop the next day andthe second vial, put it in the
refrigerator, scoop the next dayand the second vial, put in the

(01:07:49):
refrigerator.
Then you scoop a third day inthe first vial, so you get a
better picture of what's goingon in your your gut and the
stool, and stool and pee areremnants and runoffs from your
blood.
So that's what's the part thatpeople are missing is your pee
is a runoff from your blood andso what's in your blood is
coming out of your pee.
And so when you're doing thesetests, if you don't have a good

(01:08:10):
picture and you're just like, oh, one day you're never going to
know because maybe that day theywere hiding, maybe that day
they didn't shed, maybe that daythey didn't lay an egg, you
just don't know.
With only doing a day, so youshould do it over four days, two
days in each of the containersthat they give you, and then
they don't put it as a highpriority, so they can die in

(01:08:32):
that thing and so you're notgetting accurate testing because
there isn't a better way rightnow.
In our country, now Mexico, doesit differently, and when you
test through, like parasitesorgor Zoom or something, it is more
fast paced because that's allthey're doing, that's it Like.
They get it in and they test itimmediately, or they put it in

(01:08:52):
the fridge, I can tell you, theylet it sit out, they let it sit
out and so anything that couldpotentially be alive, and they
don't also have anything tocompare it to.
So some people will actuallysend in samples of their worm
and they don't have anything tocompare it to.
So some people will actuallysend in samples of their worm
and they don't have anything tocompare it to.
Now, don't do this.

(01:09:13):
But if you sent it to a vettech, they 100% know what's
going on, because they'reconstantly looking at dogs and
cats, stool, looking forparasites so that they can give
them a dewormer.
But we just don't have thatability to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:28):
Yeah, which makes me go back to the question of like
why is this such a dismissedproblem?
And I wonder if it's because wedon't have good treatments, or
the liability issues, or we justlike people being sick or like
something it's there.
None of them are good answers,but that's the world we live in.
So, um, okay, comment on thatif you want, but circle back to
the full moon question of whythat's relevant.

Speaker 2 (01:09:51):
Um, let's comment on the other thing real quick.
I think that they don't want toadmit they were wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:09:58):
Yeah, that's a little COVID.

Speaker 2 (01:10:01):
Who wants to admit that.
I mean, for me personally itwas very difficult and at times
there was some shame because Idismissed it myself.
I wrote a lot of medical booksover the last few years for
academia and I wrote curriculumand I gave it maybe an hour

(01:10:22):
talking.
So it's been dismissed.
It's been dismissed by even thepeople that aren't meaning to
dismiss it.
But I would go back to oh, mypets didn't give me that.
That's not possible.
Oh, it's very possible.
In fact they did.
You know.
So, like just, I think, theshame of coming out admitting it
.
I think that then we're goingto have to look at a lot of

(01:10:44):
other issues, specifically ourwater in our country is a huge
issue.
This is a huge issue.
The water is a ginormous issueand um, we spend my husband and
I spend a lot of money onfilters because we know what we
know now and you can't unknow itwe travel with filters.
We make sure, because that'syour fundamental filters we make

(01:11:08):
sure, because that's yourfundamental, that's your
foundation.
Yes, exactly no.
So it's really important tofilter your water with at least
a five micron or smaller filter.
These filters that you buy thatare like joely, that are just
for your hair and skin.
They don't have an actualfilter.
They're being, the water isbeing filtered, but you have to
filter, which is a five micron,because nematodes are 40 micron,

(01:11:31):
and then you have all the otherlayers of toxins that are in
our water.
So if you just go to straightto five, to one, you're covering
it all.

Speaker 1 (01:11:42):
Nice, okay.
Well, that's a good, easier wayto get to something practical
of cutting off some of the inputof this.
And then there's this lifecycle of parasites related to
the moon and related to wherethey fall, where the testing
puzzle falls in and how there'sso many false negatives.
But talk to us about the lifecycle and the full moon a little
bit.

Speaker 2 (01:12:02):
So the full moon creates more serotonin in your
body and parasites live off ofserotonin in your body.
That's why you feel like, for me, my self-worth is low when I
know I need to cleanse becausethey're in there eating my
serotonin, which you need, isyour happy, your happy hormone,
and so that's why it kind ofmakes you crazy during the full

(01:12:25):
moon.
So that's why it kind of makesyou crazy during the full moon.
And from all my studies, frenchfolklore states that you should
start cleansing three daysbefore the full moon, because
that's when they start todislodge themselves and create
new communities.
And the French ate a lot ofsnails which has schistomycin in
it, so they're very well versedon how to parasite cleanse back

(01:12:49):
in the day, because they wouldeat a lot of snails, so they
knew that they would have tocleanse because of it.
So they would do it three daysprior to the full moon, over the
full moon and a few days afterthe full moon every month.
And that's what I do now everymonth when I'm in between my 30
day cleanses.
Wow, but it's true, man, when Iworked in the er, it was you
never, you just geared up forthe full moon.
And again, I repeat thisbecause I live in Seattle and I

(01:13:14):
moved to.
This is my second apartment inSeattle.
Last year I lived in anapartment that was right on this
walkway called the blade, andit literally is like the hood of
seattle and over the full moonI would watch and people were
wild, just wild, and I would gooh jeremy, their worms are out

(01:13:39):
of control.

Speaker 1 (01:13:40):
Look at them wow, what a funny way to uh.
Maybe have a different way todo people watching.

Speaker 2 (01:13:53):
Oh, yeah, I'm like, oh, I wonder if this like I know
from working in the ER that itwas crazy during the full moon
and I would, we would braceourselves in doctor's offices
because of that.
But now I'm like, oh, this is areal thing.
Like I literally got to watchhuman behavior the last year
staring out my own window, likeduring the full moon, people
were just nuts on the streetsand I'm like, oh my gosh, I have

(01:14:14):
it on video because I'm like noone's ever going to believe me,
but I got a video of this.

Speaker 1 (01:14:20):
Okay, Well, so does it like you've got a 30 day
cleanse?
Does it matter when you started?
Do you have to time it in aparticular way?
Can you just start it knowingyou're going to cut somewhere
through there?
You're going to hit the fullmoon?
Is that more or less the answer?

Speaker 2 (01:14:30):
Both.
I mean honestly I can.
I now that the way I do things,I make sure that I do like a
mini cleanse over the full moon,but like, if I'm doing my 30
day and I need to just get going, I just get going.
If I can do it over the fullmoon, I'll do it over the full
moon.
But if you really want to makeit like, oh, then yeah, you
should start three days beforethe full moon.

Speaker 1 (01:14:52):
Three days, okay.
And then you're poisoning themon both ends, like right before
they're getting ready to hatchor throw a party, and then on
the back end, as the afterthey've had their party, the,
the uh cleanup crew isabundantly present and kicking
them out.
Did I summarize that reasonablywell?
Yeah, they're having a ragerwow, things you never thought

(01:15:13):
you'd hear on a podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:15:14):
Here we are, I mean who would have thought I mean, I
think it because that's why Iwas deemed the worm queen well,
yeah, and the amount of stuffthat I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:15:21):
If you can see, like I said, her, every single day
there's some new thing I haveyou to thank for, like exploding
parasites and as a category,and this, like contained
explosion inside my body ofdying worms that now create all
this debris that needs to becleaned up.
So thank you for all of yourwonderful or not so wonderful
images that I I may stopfollowing you just so I can get

(01:15:42):
some something, just mute me fora minute.
Some people have to come back.
Okay, well, yeah, and I try andmake it as fun as possible.

Speaker 2 (01:15:51):
This is like I mean, never in a million years would I
have ever thought that thiswould be something that I would
be discussing on a daily basis,let alone starting a company
with 30 plus employees, rightwith 30 plus employees, right
Over 30 employees, 10,000 squarefoot manufacturing facility,
3,400 square foot storagefacility.

(01:16:12):
Never would I have thought thatthis would be where I was at.
I mean, just three years ago,like literally just three years
ago, this is all that we weredoing, and there's four of us
that dedicated our lives to this.
There's me and my husband andour business partner, erica and
her husband, and they live inJonesboro.

(01:16:32):
So that's why our facilities inJonesboro and we're in Seattle
is because they live inJonesboro and they run our
production facility.
So it really has been.
You know, we've all gotten touse our talents, um, where my
husband and I are builders, sowe've gotten to build our own
manufacturing facility.
There's so many things that weall put our love and heart and
soul into this company and ourcommunity, and we give

(01:16:55):
everything out except for ourkit, and even that we do a lot
of giveaways, we do a lot ofdiscounts, because this is more
than just a company to us.
This is our lifestyle and thisis what we want our our world to
be happy and healthy again inlife, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:17:09):
Yeah, when you've done it I mean, you're a classic
example of your pain becomesyour mission.
You've taken something that wasa obvious problem and placed
where so many people are lostand not finding the real answer,
and you just it was tooimportant to you to leave it
alone and you've given it toyour life.
And thank you from me and therest of the people who will get
to benefit from your work.

(01:17:29):
It's nice to have somethingthat you can just tell comes
from a good heart and has gotsolid evidence and science
behind it, and one of the thingsyou have on your site you have
these parasite identificationguides and, oh my gosh, like
again the torrent of things thatyou like.
I asked her she's right, you cansee her, she's laughing at me
right now but so these parasiteidentification guides there's

(01:17:52):
two of them.
They're over 300 pages each andit's just a constant scroll of
here's parasites or worms thatcame out of people's body, and I
asked her are you serious?
Is this really from your owncustomer base?
And she's like, yeah, yeah.
I asked her are you serious?
Is this really from your owncustomer base?
And she's like, yeah, yeah.
And how many more pictures doyou have that you don't publish?

Speaker 2 (01:18:09):
Those were just good pictures Like people sent.
I mean I think I have like20,000 pictures.
I mean I spent six weeks goingthrough all the pictures on my
phone and we'll probably do abook three.
Yeah, because there's so many.
There's so many pictures and Ifeel like people just don't know

(01:18:33):
where to even go, includingmyself.
There was nothing out therewhen I was looking at liver
flukes.
I'm like I don't even know whata liver fluke looks like.
Again, this just isn'tsomething that like I thought.
And again, I was avaledictorian for two of my
degrees and I love looking atthings and if I don't know it,

(01:18:53):
how could anybody else know it?
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:18:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:18:57):
So we got to have the information out there.

Speaker 1 (01:18:59):
Yeah, so if anybody wants to join us and compare
worm pooping stories with yourfriends in these books, we're
happy to have you and take apicture.
Maybe you will make it past theeditor.
Who knows, oh my God, maybeyou'll make it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:12):
Maybe you'll make it centerfold.
Right, my friend Sam has thecenterfold.

Speaker 1 (01:19:15):
Right, that's what I want to have Right now she's the
centerfold.

Speaker 2 (01:19:19):
She blew a hundred worms out of her nose.
What, yeah?
Which was my nightmare.
I never wanted to have themcome out of any orifices, which
I did, and I had them come outof my feet with the fulvic soak
which we sell that fulvic soak,specifically because I had them
swim out of my feet.

Speaker 1 (01:19:39):
You had that.
So you're in a bath, you'redoing a fulvic soak one of your
products and you see wormsfloating on the top of the water
.
Is this what you, what you'retelling me?

Speaker 2 (01:19:45):
just did foot soak and the worms swam out of the
water or swam out of my feet andthey're swimming in the water
and I have it on video in fact,I did a video before because I
like to video everything and I'msitting there, I'm like man,
I'm super disappointed, I can't,uh, I can't.
Nothing's happening like I canfeel it, I'm not seeing anything

(01:20:05):
.
I guess this is just reallydisappointing.
And then, like two secondslater, I'm like oh, and like I
show my my foot soak and I'vegot multiple worms swimming in
my soak hey, wow.

Speaker 1 (01:20:19):
So if you ever needed a good reason to consider a
parasite cleanse folks there, itis okay, give us a.
So we've heard good bits aboutyour fascinating story.
Give us a customer or two, orjust like some stories of other
people in their health orhealing or ways that you have
been able to change their livesthrough the use of your products
.

Speaker 2 (01:20:36):
A lot of women have gotten pregnant because they've
been able to remove some of theburdens that their body is
having.
You know, your body is thinkingit's taking care of something
else that's alive, because thereis things alive in your body,
and so it's giving all of itstime and energy and nutrients to
that.
And so we've had quite a fewpeople, which is really great

(01:20:56):
because, again, endometriosisand I had a hysterectomy and I
don't have kids, and so it'skind of nice to see other women
who have struggled.
Our bottle guy we have thesereally cool blue bottles.
His name is Tyler.
He's given me permission toshare a story whenever I want.
Him and his wife tried forthree years to have children and

(01:21:20):
I sent them a kit and I saidjust give it a try.
Like what's the worst that'sgoing to happen?
You might see some worms whenyou go to the bathroom and they
have a one and a half year oldnow.
Yeah, buddy, so you know, it'sjust really awesome that people
can take their own health intotheir hands and just go.
I'm just gonna try it.
Like I'm just gonna try it.

(01:21:40):
It's not gonna hurt you.

Speaker 1 (01:21:41):
You're gonna get nutrients in your body that you
weren't getting before yeah, theparasites aren't eating your
food first and giving you theleftovers you get to Right, yeah
, cool, and so many othersymptoms or stories that could
be told, and we'll let the yeah,I guess let the customer go
check out your social media oryour website and the guides and

(01:22:02):
find some of these.
There are so many reviews andyou don't sell as many kits as
you have if you weren't doingGod's work.
So thank you for what you'redoing, and so, as we start
wrapping up, is there anything Ileft out?
Anything you want to tellpeople and let them know where
to find you and follow your work?

Speaker 2 (01:22:16):
Well, thank you for having me, you're welcome and
you can find me.
Mrsrogershood is on instantthreads and then mrs Rogers hood
, as in like Mr Rogersneighborhood, find the helpers.
So Mrs Rogers hood is on TikTok, youtube, instagram.
Nope, I already said that.
Yeah, just the dot is on Instabecause someone has Mrs Rogers

(01:22:41):
hood, which I feel for.
I can only imagine what her DMslook like sometimes.

Speaker 1 (01:22:47):
Why does everybody keep asking me about worms?

Speaker 2 (01:22:49):
I know, one day she messaged me and she's like do
you think I'm like?
No, I'm not stopping.
You can give me your name andthen it'll stop.

Speaker 1 (01:22:57):
But not for now.
So, yeah, wow, very cool.
Okay, and what's your websiteand anything else you want to
say?

Speaker 2 (01:23:06):
Rogershoodcom is our website, and we answer every
email, every DM, we answer everycomment that we can, and so if
you reach out to us, we will getback with you.
So just be patient, because wedo get a lot, depending on if
we're viral that day or not,which we're viral, kind of every

(01:23:27):
day.
So we really try to get back toyou in 24 hours and everything
that I've talked about is free.
We've got a fast track guidethat can get you started,
whether it's with our kit orwith any sort of a cleanse.
We have a mold cleanse as well,because I had mold poisoning so
I made a mold mold cleansecalled moldies.
You can actually takeeverything that's in the moldies

(01:23:49):
kit with the Parify kit,excluding moldies.
So it's really just great tohave additional support, and
that's what all of our tincturesdo for each other support each
other.
Yeah, I mean, honestly, justgive it a try, you'll feel
better, you might lose a littleweight, your inflammation will
go down.
I mean, honestly, just give ita try, you'll feel better, you
might lose a little weight, yourinflammation will go down.

(01:24:10):
I mean, that's the wholepurpose is just to feel better.

Speaker 1 (01:24:12):
Yeah, yeah.
Well, I remember just seeingyour first video that went viral
and how you look now.
Compared to that and I told youearlier you literally look 10
years younger.
You did something just to giveyour body a chance to heal.
And one other question you mademe think of as you were talking
was the what other things doyou suggest pairing with a
cleanse like this?
Do you go up the back end andsuggest anything Obviously soaks

(01:24:33):
and baths and so anything elseyou'd recommend to compliment
what you do?

Speaker 2 (01:24:38):
Coffee enemas, colonics.
So to make sure you're peeing,pooping and perspiring when
you're doing any cleanse,because you're trying to get rid
of the toxins.
So, I highly recommend saunas.
Steam red light is my favorite.
I do red light every day and Ido vibration plate every day, so
just keeping the movement going.
I've recently this year starteddoing hyperbaric chamber, which

(01:25:00):
is oxygen therapy, and I do NADjust to keep my body boosted
and allow me to detox morecomfortably.
Because that's really what itis Once you have a bad cleanse,
you might not ever do a cleanseagain, so it's like a bad trip.
Once you do one, you're like oh, it scares you.
So you wanna make sure thatyou're having a good cleanse in

(01:25:23):
order for you to continue to doit, because your body really
needs it.
We're just our toxin bucket'soverloaded at this point in life
.

Speaker 1 (01:25:29):
Yeah, it is, and it's once you can get your head
around that.
Okay, this, I have a toxicityproblem, I'm going to have to
get the exits open and I'm goingto have to be able to find the
things that get whatever needsto leave my body out, and so
that's really.
We've simplified our businessdown to that, and we are proud
to feature your products as partof our cleanse.
So anybody wants supervisiongoing through this and have
communities to surround you.

(01:25:50):
That's what we're all about.
And so, kim, thank you so muchfor taking the time to join me
today.
It has been a pleasure havingyou on the show, and I'll have
to have you back for some otherconversation in the future.

Speaker 2 (01:26:00):
Yeah, Mushrooms I love.
I can talk about mushrooms forhours.

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