Kim Rogers: Your Unexplained Health Problems Could Be Mold Toxicity

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Could mold be the hidden culprit behind your mysterious health symptoms? In this eye-opening conversation with Kim Rogers of Rogers Hood Apothecary, we dive deep into the often-overlooked world of mold illness and its devastating effects on health.

Kim shares her personal battle with black toxic mold (Aspergillus niger) poisoning that caused alarming symptoms including swollen eyes, severe brain fog, significant hair loss, and stubborn weight issues. After 18 years in the medical field, Kim discovered she was living in a mold-infested environment that was slowly destroying her health despite all her medical knowledge and training.

We explore the fascinating connection between our increasingly toxic modern environment and the body's vulnerability to mold colonization. As Kim explains, "We're all overly burdened," with environmental toxins creating the perfect storm for mold to thrive inside us. You'll discover why mold is part of nature's clean-up crew for toxicity and how an overburdened system becomes the perfect breeding ground for fungal overgrowth.

The conversation takes unexpected turns as we discuss how mold operates on a frequency level, creating what Kim calls a "mold hold" – a psychological attachment that can make people resistant to leaving moldy environments. "Parasites are controlling, and mold is brainwashing," she notes, describing how mold altered her husband's thinking despite clear evidence of contamination.

Beyond just identifying the problem, Kim shares her comprehensive protocol for overcoming mold illness, from testing methods and remediation techniques to her multi-layered approach to detoxification. You'll learn about powerful biohacking tools including red light therapy, vibration plates, infrared saunas, binding agents, and even advanced therapies like hyperbaric oxygen and therapeutic plasma exchange.

Perhaps most fascinating is our exploration of functional mushrooms as healing allies against toxic mold. Kim explains how medicinal mushrooms operate at different, healing frequencies compared to pathogenic fungi – providing a window into a more holistic understanding of health beyond just chemical interactions.

Whether you've struggled with unexplained symptoms, lived in humid environments, or simply want to understand the invisible factors affecting your health, this conversation offers practical wisdom and hope for recovery. Join us for this deep dive into the complex world of mold illness and discover how addressing this hidden enemy might be the missing piece in your health puzzle.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello everyone.
Welcome to episode number 47.
My guest today is Mrs KimRogers from Rogers Hood
Apothecary.
You may remember her fromepisode number 44, where we
talked about the massivelyoverlooked problem of parasite
infections.
That interview quickly becamemy second most downloaded
episode, and for good reason.

(00:20):
It has many jaw-droppingmoments in it.
In today's show, we discussedanother significant aspect of
Kim's healing journey, and thatwas overcoming a serious mold
problem.
So wait until you hear some ofthe symptoms she and her husband
had.
If you've listened to any of myother episodes, you know I'm a
big fan of helping people findbetter questions and identify
root causes, so pertinent tothis episode.

(00:41):
If you've had unexplainedhealth problems, mold poisoning
is certainly a puzzle worthlooking into, especially if you
live, or have lived, in humidenvironments.
I'll warn you, though, thatthis topic can be a deep rabbit
hole, but we did our best toframe the discussion.
So if you do decide to lookdeeper, you a brief recap of

(01:03):
Kim's story.
We opened the discussion with ahigh-level look at why mold
illness is such a growingproblem.
To do that, we had to zoom outand talk about the world of
microbes in general, their rolein nature and how our
microbiomes, which include mold,have become susceptible to mold
infestations in the first place.
The short version is we areloaded with toxins, and mold is

(01:25):
part of nature's cleanup crew,whether we're talking
medications, personal careproducts, plastics, pesticides,
mercury, fillings, root canals,etc.
The more toxic we are, the moreour internal ecosystem becomes
a perfect breeding ground formold.
Essentially, what that means isthat if you're trying to
address a mold or fungalovergrowth and you're not first
addressing your toxic burden,your efforts to heal will likely

(01:48):
stay in the realm of immunesystem stalemates or kind of
devolve into disease management,which is where none of us want
to be.
So obviously, the environmentswe live in are also a relevant
factor related to mold, and sowe covered the topic of
remediation as well, and Kim hasactually gone to great lengths
to rebalance her own body andher living and working

(02:09):
environments to be as mold freeas possible.
She's also turned herself intoquite the biohacker, I will say,
and she'll just tell you aboutseveral different techniques and
therapies she has used on herhealing journey.
I also found out that Kim is notfamiliar with some of the
heaviest hitters that I use tohelp people detox and
dramatically heal their bodies.
So be listening for thosenuggets as well.

(02:30):
I'm excited just to hear whatyou guys think of this interview
.
I learned something from herevery time we talk and I think
maybe the favorite part of thisinterview was hearing how you
know, after 18 years ofexperience in the medical world,
she came to think outside ofthe biochemical frame that she
was trained in and that tends todominate Western medicine.
So wait until you hear thestory of how she used kind of a

(02:51):
new paradigm to build a set oftinctures specifically for
dealing with mold or parasites,and that's just a fascinating
story.
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(03:12):
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Okay, without further ado, hereis my interview with the
brilliant, lovable anddown-to-earth Kim Rogers.
All right, helloeveryoneto-earth, kim Rogers.
All right, hello everyone.
Welcome back to today's show.
I have a wonderful repeat guest.
You would call her Her HighnessKim Rogers.
She's also known as the WormQueen, so if you heard my

(03:56):
interview recently then you mayremember we talked all about
parasites.
So I'm not going to read all ofher resume, but I'm going to
give you a little bit of recapin case you did not hear that
episode.
So a quick background.
Kim is an 18-year veteran ofthe medical community.
She worked in endocrinology,neurology, er and urgent care
and she was also a teacher at 25different healthcare colleges.

(04:17):
She's now the face of theRogers Hood Apothecary Company,
which educates people about thereally overlooked, dramatically
overlooked and dismissed problemof parasites, and she has
effective and affordableproducts for cleansing parasites
but also other microbes whichwe will talk about shortly.
Her company has two FDAapproved facilities in two

(04:37):
different states.
They have over 13,000 squarefeet where they produce their
detox kits and help peoplerebalance their bodies and build
lasting health.
And they've sold.
How many kits now, kim, haveyou sold Over?

Speaker 2 (04:47):
130,000.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
Over 100, yeah, so 10,000 more than last time I
talked to you, and about 40% ofyour daily sales are repeat
customers.
Is that still accurate?

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Yeah, we're a little bit higher, we're like 45.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
Sheesh, which just says something about what people
are experiencing.
If you got that high of areturn rate, so well done, all
right.
Well, welcome back to the show.
Thanks for joining me again.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
Thanks for having me.
I love it.
I love it and I love the topicthat we're about to dive into.
A lot of people don't knowabout mold.
They don't know that I had moldpoisoning while I was on TikTok
, going viral Like yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
Yeah, okay.
Well, let's start there becausepart of your story obviously
you became known as the wormqueen because parasites just
became such a hot topic and youwere able to build a company
around that.
But you also I think it wasprior to that you recognized you
were dealing with a significantmold problem.
Is that right?

Speaker 2 (05:40):
Well it was.
So we realized that we had,like, done some mold in one of
our remodels, but we didn'trealize it until 22.
So I went viral in 2021 and Iwas, all you know, worm queen,
worm queen.
And then in 2022, I got off ofthe Parify kit after being on it
for a year, which wormwoodsuppresses mold spores in your

(06:03):
body.
So I was doing really good.
I got off of it for seven daysand my eyes started to swell
shut.
I literally lost half of myhair, Like like my hair was.
You know, these rubber bands.
I could only do two, and now Ido five, five wraps, you know
what I'm saying.
So like that's how much hair Ilost, like my hair was so thick

(06:27):
and so that was a, and Icouldn't lose any weight.
Those were my ginormousindications that something else
was going on, and I was onsocial media at the time and so
I was doing videos and my eyeswere like totally swollen shut.
There were days I couldn't openmy eyes because mold does that
to you, and that was in likeJune of 2022.

(06:54):
And by August of 2022, I hadhad so much blood work done that
we figured out what was wrongwith me, and that day that I got
my blood work, I moved me andJeremy out of our travel trailer
that we were living in that wasfull of mold.
And we were living in it,building our log home, so it
really went fast.
We got aspergillus niger, whichis black toxic mold poisoning

(07:19):
from that trailer.
So we realize now looking backthat one of our other remodels
had black mold in it and didn'trealize, because we remodel
homes, we're builders, we liketo build and so we didn't
realize that that also had blackmold and that was also causing
me to decline when we moved outto our property in 2019.
So if you've listened to mystory about parasites, it really
was a compound of parasites andmold poisoning that was, you

(07:41):
know, making me circle the drain.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Gotcha and you, as you've said, parasites was, as
you work to suppress that italso had an overlapping effect
of helping buffer against themold issue.
As soon as you stop that, thensymptoms worsen.
Did I capture that well?

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Yes, and that's why we do say wait seven days.
It's not the only reason why wesay wait seven days between
cleanses, but it is a big reasonbecause you'll get a better
idea of what's going on withyour health.
If, all of a sudden, you pausethe Parafy and then you wait the
seven days, are you going tohave more buildup with something
else?
Are you going to have differentsymptoms, like you have to let

(08:19):
your body kind of relax a littlebit and then kind of then get
after it.
And we do recommend doingParify two to three times prior
to stepping into a mold cleanseof ours, because you're trying
to remove as many spores aspossible and Parify will help
with that.
It will help remove the spores,but if you're living in active

(08:42):
mold and don't know it, you'llknow it within that seven days.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
Ah, okay, that's a good nugget right there.
Just practical, it's almostlike a simple way to test
expensive kits or labs oranything.
You just let your body'sfeedback be part of the
indicator.
I like that, okay.
Well, you and I were talkingbefore and we've got several
topics related to mold andsymptoms and the ways our body
might be giving us a flashingred light, that there's
something worth paying attentionto here.

(09:08):
But one of the ways, as I wasthinking about how to shape this
interview, I wanted to see whatwe could do to frame really the
broader world of microbes andwhere mold fits, because it's
not like we're ever going tolive in a world free of mold.
Right, and it does have a rolein nature.
So what I thought about justaddressing, obviously, the
ubiquitous nature of it, sopeople don't feel overwhelmed or

(09:28):
powerless or just fearful.
There's another thing that'sinvisible that I need to freak
out about, and now I have to beworried about that.
So if you would and I've gotthoughts on it, but I'd love to
hear yours Take a few minutesand kind of just talk about your
perspective on mold, it's rolein nature, talk about your
perspective on mold, its role innature, and see if we can
remove some of the fear relatedto it and maybe just give people
some intellectual framework forwhere mold fits in the bigger

(09:52):
picture of microbes.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
So mold does have a purpose, just like parasites
have a purpose.
You know it's called theterrain theory.
Dr Jess just actually talkedabout this the other day on
another podcast, and she'sabsolutely right.
There is a purpose for all ofthese things.
But when your body is soexhausted and your bucket of

(10:15):
toxins is overloaded because wereally are overloaded with our
environmental toxins that arecausing us to need to detox more
now than we ever did before itis a collection in your body,
and so we're not trying to scareanyone.
We're just trying to load youwith knowledge that you have an
understanding of one.
What ways should I be cleansing?

(10:37):
What ways should I be usingthese modalities so that I don't
overwhelm myself and then endup being worse?
And so are we exposed?
Yeah, we're exposed every day.
But if your body is in anenvironment which it's cleansing
and it's in a supportive butkilling type of mentality,

(10:57):
you're going to do better whenyou are exposed to those at a
higher level.
My body was not in a state atthe time to have the mold take
over, but it does show how muchmy body was resilient and
allowing me to get rid of theparasites and kind of buffering
that mold poisoning, not causingme more problems.

(11:19):
And then, once I removed one ofthe environmental toxins that
it hangs out with, it was like,yay, I'm at home alone, now I
get to take over.
And it did, but it doesn't andit's because I was living in it.
Now, if I'm going into abusiness and I'm exposed to it
here and there, like I'm notgoing to have that type of
reaction.
I was literally living in it24-7.

(11:39):
And so it really does make thatmuch of a difference when you
are.
Even my husband wasn't livingin it 24 seven.
I was chronically ill, sittingon my chair, not being able to
really go outside.
I was doing my videos from mychair and he was outside

(12:02):
building our log home, gettingfresh air, then coming in
periodically and then sleepingwith an APAP so like he, his
exposure was so much less thanmine and then sleeping with an
APAP, so like his exposure wasso much less than mine.
And so it kind of shows likehow each body is a little bit
different in the way that theyprocess the environmental toxins
.
So you shouldn't be afraid, youshould be excited that you have
this knowledge and that youreally can do something with it,
that there isn't just some deadend road at this point of oh,

(12:25):
what do I do from here?
No, you should be like I knowhow to cleanse my body of some
of these environmental toxins,to then make myself feel better,
because that's the ultimategoal for us is to be healthier
and happier.
And so I'll bring this back towhy it's really important to
cleanse out the mold and bringin an herb like what we have in

(12:47):
the Moldy's kit, like fennel,because fennel will snuff it out
and then sweep it out.
So you're doing a paraffycleanse with a parasite.
It's dropping those spores andyour body's kind of collecting
those spores, creating thecolonization in your body, like
you see on a wall.
So that's happening in yourbody on a different type of

(13:11):
level in your cells and in yourmuscle and in your tissue,
clogging up your body.
You go in there after you'vedone some cleansing.
You go in there and you cleanseeven more.
It's just gonna keep onremoving all of those burdens
that are in your body, allowingyou to have less brain fog,
feeling better, losing someweight.

(13:33):
And I know me and you talkedabout how some people will do
the cleanse and then they'llhave their weight will not go
down, and in a society we livein right now, weight really is,
in their people's minds, theindication of health.
But when you're exposed tothese environmental toxins, they
can change your metabolism andthey can make it so that you

(13:54):
have metabolic disorder.
I have metabolic disorderbecause I was so exposed to all
these environmental toxins.
It did a number on mymetabolism and so that was a
huge indication for me of, well,I'm doing all these things, why
am I not losing the weight?
And I still struggle with that.
And I am one of the topcleansing biohack females out

(14:17):
here, you know, and I stillstruggle with my weight.
And it isn't an indication tome that I'm not healthy.
It is an indication to me thatI have more to work on, but it's
not like, oh, I'm not going toeat that now, when in fact you
should actually feed thingssometimes with the
nutrient-densed foods in orderfor you to switch your

(14:38):
metabolism to be better.
So when you're like looking atit as a weight thing, you got to
look at it as a metabolismwhich is part of your body, you
know.
So, okay, cool, well, let mesee long story sorry I'm so
long-winded, you're, you'reallowed.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
This is, this is you must increase and I must
decrease.
That's the point, yeah, so, butwhat I um, let me see if I can
kind of throw out the frameworkthat's been helpful for me and
see if this one challenge it orvalidate it if that makes sense
to you.
But one person I've learnedfrom or respected in this world
of trying to understand themicrobiome is Natasha Campbell
McBride, who wrote a lot ofpeople know is the one who wrote

(15:15):
the Gaps Diet she's got.
she got two books Gut andPsychology Syndrome, and a newer
one, gut and PhysiologySyndrome and she spills a lot of
ink talking about microbiomephysiology syndrome.
And she spills a lot of inktalking about microbiome and she
mentions candida and fungus andvarious elements of what we
find in the diversity of theecosystem inside us.
And you know brilliant pointslike where everything's wet

(15:35):
inside us, so we're always,we're never going to have a
non-wet environment, so we aregoing to have things that would,
you know, theoretically thrivein a moist environment.
But she makes the point abouttoxicity and she says as long as
toxins remain in the system,the fungi will grow because they
are nature's universaldecomposers.
When the body is polluted,damaged and full of decaying

(15:55):
material, we will have anovergrowth of fungi inside us,
causing all sorts of symptoms.
Research has shown that the bestand most efficacious way
against candida, for example, ishaving a healthy population of
beneficial bacteria in the body,and she's essentially just
making the case that it's.
I've almost come to think of itand I really would love your
perspective that things likeunbalanced microbes or

(16:17):
overgrowth of mold or overgrowthof candida or even different
bacteria that we wouldn't wanthaving a dominance inside of us.
They're almost a downstreamsymptom because there's so much
food they have to feed on.
The ecosystem is such that ofcourse they're going to be here
because in some ways they'reprotective.
They're doing their job tomunch up the rot or the

(16:38):
preservatives, the pesticides,the plastics, the metals that
would otherwise poison us, andpart of being able to balance
the microbes is first to be ableto remove the toxins.
So does that make sense as aframe for how you would
methodically think about ahealing journey?

Speaker 2 (16:55):
Yes, yes, a hundred percent, cause I'm not ever
saying that you shouldn't haveanything in your body, but the
key word is when you'reoverloaded or it's an overgrowth
Over is the word Like, you havetoo much of it.
So, you're really trying to reelthat in so that it is an equal
balance of energy being given todifferent parts of the organs,

(17:19):
instead of just literallyfighting off candida?
I mean, we all have yeast inour body and there is a purpose,
right, it breaks things down.
It works in conjunction withour stomach acid, like they're
all supposed to work at ahomeostasis level.
But when you change thatfrequency of your body, because
these things are alive, that iswhen you create the chronic

(17:42):
illness and the autoimmune.
That is when you create thechronic illness and the
autoimmune.
Your body is literally fightingitself for a reason because the
overgrowth has happened.
I still don't believe we shouldhave worms in our body or
parasites in our body.
I still do not believe thatthat should be something that is
in there but because your bodyshould be able to take care of

(18:02):
removing the heavy metalsthemselves and fighting the
yeast that can overgrow, causingcandida.
But there is a purpose in theecosystem that we live in to
have some of these things comein from earth.
But once they start to overgrow, then there's an issue.
But I'll stick with whenparasites eat off of you,
because that's what they'redoing they're stealing from the

(18:25):
host.
There's a Greek word forparasites it's an uninvited
dinner guest.
Whenever you have anything likethat, it really is detrimental
to your health, regardless ifsomeone thinks that you should
have it or not, but I definitelybelieve that there are people
that need to have these thingsin their body in order for them
to bring down their level.
What we're talking about isthat we want people to have it,

(18:49):
not be overgrown or overloaded.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
Right.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
And that's what's wrong with the chronically ill
society that we're all living inright now.
And that's where this medicalawakening is coming from,
because people are realizing theeducation behind their bodies.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
Yeah Well, and it's not that we'll ever eradicate
every last molecule of candidaor bacteria or anything, nor
would you want to.
They're there for a purpose.
But it's the unbalancedecosystem where they're just
constantly having a rager.
There's so much food andthey're taking over and crowding
out the diversity, and then, ifyou've been on antibiotics over

(19:25):
time, you're slowly justwhittling away at the diversity
of the ecosystem to make it evenharder for your body to have
the breadth of what you'd use tohave a healthy, functioning
microbiome.
And so it's as much.
And at least in our mind, it'sthe take away the burden, take
away the toxicity, and that ispart of putting the mold or

(19:46):
bacteria, whatever it is, incheck.
And what I love about what youdo is you can bring a hammer to
the process of really puttingthat in check so that we can
have a definitive statement thatsays this imbalance can finally
stop and we can essentiallytend this internal soil and
bring about health so that thesystems can run better.
So I captured that reasonablywell.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
Oh it was.
That was perfect.
We're literally building thatfoundation like a house, and we
talked about this.
I built a log home.
We're looking at building again.
You have to have a solidfoundation to put your house on,
and our foundations are crackedand damaged and so you still
need to have some of thosesupplies that are in that

(20:30):
foundation.
But they're a burden.
We're all overly burdened andwe're all being diagnosed with
labels of, you know, autoimmune,and that's why I call them
labels, because, man, if youcounted how many labels I was
given over the last 20 plusyears of me being chronically
ill, it's wild, like you know.
And they all just led back tomy box.

(20:52):
My environmental toxin bucketwas overloaded.
I had no idea yeah and so youget that into check and I am
literally living proof you canwatch me from the day I started
doing this in 2019.
I have an account from then towhere I'm at today, and I would
say, over the last six months iswhere I've really gained more

(21:14):
control over my health andlooking healthier Because of the
fact that I've realized thecleansing part and the
biohacking part and the you knowdoing other modalities part.
But she's right, I mean, she'snot wrong, you know, and it's
really important that one.
We all look at each other'sideals in such a positive light,

(21:38):
because if we don't, we'regoing to be like traditional
versus Western medicine again,and so no one's right and no
one's wrong, and so it's like Ibelieve we have to have all of
that stuff for the environment,but once it comes into our
bodies, that's really whenthere's a the biggest issue,
when you can't handle it, andthat's where we're at.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
We just can't handle it anymore yeah, we are toxic to
a level humanity's never dealtwith before, never.
And it's just, like you know,micro, microscopic termites, if
you will.
It's just it's eroding usinternally and we've got to you
balance that and then you canlike finally go refurbish the
insides and health can return.
And that's the part where ittakes longer to make you break a

(22:21):
bone you don't heal in two daysor two weeks.
There's a process the body goesthrough to refurbish itself.
And when there's a patientmethodical process, like I guess
you and I have done a lot ofthe work, the hard-won wisdom of
teasing out how do I start fromground zero and work from first
principles in order to buildhealth?
And there's so many ways to doit.
But, yeah, we've got to get thebody burden bucket emptied as

(22:45):
much as possible so that when wedo come in with the tools that
work, we're actually swingingand hitting things rather than
just missing and wondering whyor ending up, like you did, with
so many different labels.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
And then great, now we can treat the label.
And we're continuing to goafter symptoms and it's just
endless symptom whack-a-mole andanother climb up the specialist
escalation ladder without anysort of fruit to show for it.
So welcome to the biohackerhealth coach non-medical world,
Kim, it's great to have you.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
I mean, that's really what we're doing, right?

Speaker 1 (23:15):
It's like yeah you are such an asset in the bigger
picture.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
Well, okay, well, so, with that kind of grounding or
foundation for understandingthis conversation, one of the
things that's fascinating aboutyou actually there's many things
, but one that I'll highlighthere is I don't meet many
medical professionals or formermedical professionals who can
really think outside theperiodic table, and so last year
I watched this documentarycalled the Wave Genome and in

(23:41):
particular they talked aboutkind of how the chemistry model
of health is very constrictingwhen it comes to the genome.
It can only explain like 2% ofwhat's going on, which
originally led them to saythere's 2% of genes that are
important and the other 98% arenonsense genes, which I guess
probably sounded a littlearrogant or something, so they
called them non-coding genes.

(24:02):
But the point I'm making is, asthey tease out in this
documentary, there's light andheat and motion and temperature
and magnetism and electricityand there's so many other
elements that have bearing onthe human body or the human
frame.
And what's one fascinatingthing about you is that you
didn't stay stuck in thechemistry model when it came to
your health or it came tobuilding out your kits, and last

(24:31):
time we talked you mentionedthat part of what's powerful
about your Parify kit inparticular is that it's not just
you're chemically poisoning theparasites, but you're matching
and balancing their frequency.
And it was Tesla who said ifyou want to understand the
mysteries of the universe, youthink in terms of energy,
vibration and frequency.
There's other elements to ourlived existence.
So for one, how is it that you,as a former medical
professional or teacher inhealthcare colleges, started

(24:53):
thinking more holistically andin terms of like, not just
poison these with chemicals, butlet me see what frequency I can
find to match and kind ofneutralize some of these
microbes?

Speaker 2 (25:03):
Music.
Just, I played the violin and Ilearned the violin when I was
four by ear and I realized thatmusic made me feel a certain way
.
And so I really like sat downand I was just playing around
with different ways to listen tofrequencies with the music and

(25:25):
how it made me feel frequencieswith the music and how it made
me feel.
And in the finding of that, Istarted just researching and
digging into like subliminalmessages with frequencies and
how everything vibrates at itsown frequency.
And why does the opera singerbreak glass when she sings or he
sings?
And I started to just reallylike look into that and and well

(25:48):
, what are we vibrating at?
Because I would sometimes feelmyself vibrating in a weird like
way.
Now I know it's because I havebabesia and boreala and like all
these other things too, butlike it was my body trying to
push against that frequency.
And so I just started to kindof look at what could like what

(26:08):
could frequency music do for me.
And then I didn't know a lotabout like how you can listen to
different frequencies and theycan actually like push parasites
out of your body and mold outof your body.
I actually learned more of thatwith my mold poisoning than I
did with my parasites.

(26:28):
I would listen to somefrequencies while I was on
TikTok I actually do a lot ofvideos about frequencies and how
you can listen to them with aParify kit to help push them out
more and I was like researchingit and I pulled up a frequency
and literally that withinminutes, I like threw up some

(26:50):
eggs and it was the weirdestthing I've ever experienced.
And so I kind of, like you know,went into my little index of
thoughts and pulled that one outand I was like, oh well, I mean
, I learned how to play theviolin.
Listening to frequency and Imusic makes you feel a certain
way and it changes yourfrequency.
And they put frequencies in themusic and then, during 2020,

(27:14):
they put some frequencies in ourmedia to like kind of brainwash
us a little bit.
You know if you were watchingit on both sides of the spectrum
and so if that can be done thatway, can it be done on a
medical way and like that?
You know, like your body isjust all frequency, and so I
think just being able tounderstand the human body over

(27:37):
the last 20 years and the depththat I have bringing that in was
just like another layer of idea, you know.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
Does that answer your question?
No, it's great, I didn't knowyou were going go, because it
really was.
It's like I don't know how shegot to blow open the doors of
this.
I gotta think inside theperiodic table it's fine symptom
, smack, symptom and it's justbiochemical whack-a-mole is how
I find most medicalprofessionals, how they just
they get sucked back into thatas the frame and you blew that

(28:05):
right out of the water and andnow you're talking about how you
can.
It reminded me of evenhomeopathy.
They have this cancelingprinciple of similars, like when
you find and match the diseaseprocess, it just kind of
neutralizes that.
And it even reminded me of likeEMF harmonizers, like the point
being it cancels out thenon-native frequencies that run
through our air by blasting outthe same one in the opposite

(28:27):
direction and you're like oh,and it can remove that.
So to hear you describe yourParify kit in that lane it made
me think well, shoot, I'm sofascinated by your product
creation process and how you goabout, like how do you figure
out the frequency of all thesedifferent microbes or herbs in
order to match them?
So what can you tell us abouthow you have learned to do that

(28:49):
and anything else you want tosay about that topic?

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Well, I especially like honed in more on the
frequency idea and how.
All of that not just fromParify but really from Moldy's,
because you can feel mold waymore than you could feel
parasites you can, and once youstart to demold your body, you
can walk in and know there'smold immediately because that

(29:12):
frequency is no longer in yourbody vibrating with it whoa.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
So okay.
So is there some encyclopedia,someplace where, like any of
these frequencies have beenmatched out or people have a
more robust understanding thatany of us lay people could look
at and and tinker with ourselves?

Speaker 2 (29:32):
I mean any herb that has what it treats.
That's all that big p did theyjust figured out like.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
So amanita taught me that, that's why I show her
everywhere because the redmushroom you have yeah, that's
our red mushroom on everything.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
So Amanita Mascara is a PTSD calming mushroom.
People think that it is apsychedelic, but it's actually
not a psychedelic.
You do have to like, prepare ita correct way and then you can
take it.
And that helped me get off ofmy benzos.
And while I was looking at howto get off of my benzodiazepine
that I'd been on for 22 yearsfor PTSD, I found out that they

(30:11):
stole the same DNA structure asAmanita and changed it by one
molecule, allowing it to then besynthetically made.
And then they villainized her.
So I was like well, why'd theydo that?
What made them choose that?
And it's because that frequencyhelps your nervous system and
keep get you out of fight orflight.
And so while I did pharmacologyin college and taught it, I

(30:34):
realized that all that's beendone is that they take what the
ailment is and try and find away to remove that ailment,
which it's all frequencies.
So they remove that ailmentwith their frequency that they
synthetically made, that yourbody has to try and figure out
how to process.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
Ah, okay, so somebody else essentially did the work
for you.
You just had to connect thedots of what they were doing and
turn it from a typicallypetroleum-based or synthetic
version back into how doesnature do this, and it gave you
insight into what herbs to useor mushrooms to use, etc.
Is that?

Speaker 2 (31:09):
yep, okay, yep, and that's.
And she taught me that, amanitataught me that because, like
I'd always been like, oh so youhave gird, take preface it right
.
Like that's how I would writethat out to people.
I'd be like, oh so you havealzheimer's, you should take
lion's mane with ericept.
Like those were the ways youlooked at it, but like lion's

(31:30):
mane is the same similarstructure as ericept is.
So why?
And you can take them togetherto just do a bigger push, right?
So that's in neurology, that'swhat we would tell people to do
when they were getting the onsetof dementia in order to help
heal their brain.
And so it's like, well, can youjust take lines, maine, can you

(31:51):
just proactively take that tohelp get through the GABA and
help, you know, support yourbrain?
Yeah, so it's like kind of whatthey did and you're just kind
of reversing it to use mothernature.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
Fantastic.
Well, a couple of things Ithought of as you were talking.
One last time we talked towardthe end of the interview, I
mentioned something aboutmushrooms and you're like, oh, I
could talk about those all day.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
Oh gosh, we'll have to do a whole nother podcast, a
whole nother podcast on that,okay.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
Well, anything particular you want to tease
people with before a differentshow on that.
What is it that makes mushrooms?
Because they.
What is it that makes mushrooms?
Because they are fungi andwe're trying to get rid of mold
and we're introducing fungi aspart of the solution.
So what is it like?
How do you there's so manymushrooms or how do you choose?
Give people a high-level lookat if they're interested in the
world of mushrooms, where theymight start.
And one particular one a lot ofpeople seem excited about is

(32:42):
chaga.
I don't know if you knowanything about that.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Yeah, chaga's great Love chaga.
Know anything about that?
Yeah, chaga's great Love chaga.
Chaga helps with your nervoussystem.
But I would say that if you'restarting to explore the
functional mushrooms becausetheir frequency is a healing
frequency, whereas fungus, likemold and yeast, they have a
different frequency to them,their job is different in our
world.
Their job is not the same asthese high-level functional

(33:06):
mushrooms.
And I recommend lion's mane.
Five grams a day is atherapeutic dose.
Turkey tail is amazing.
Five grams a day is therapeutic.
Anything below five grams is asupplement to your body and so
that's the way you should lookat it.
The higher you go, the morefunctionality and the more
therapeutic levels.
It is where it's going in andactually working on a medicinal

(33:29):
level where, when you go aroundone to three grams a day, which
is on average what you take whenyou take a supplement, you want
to just know that's asupplement, that it's just going
in and supplementing what ourfood is not giving us anymore
for that specific frequency oflife.
But the higher you go, the moreit's going to work as a
medicine versus just working,and you can take mushrooms with

(33:50):
anything.
It's not like you take.
You can never overdose onmushrooms unless it's like a
death cap, which is not Amanitaor psilocybin.
I mean, you can go to a wholenother level when you're taking
a magic mushroom, but when itcomes to like lion's mane,
turkey tail, maya talky.
Maya talky is really great forpcos.
It helps regulate your hormonesand sugar.

(34:10):
Five grams a day.
If you have pcos, maya talky,and then you have reishi, which
is like a xanax, it calms yournervous system.
We actually have four mushroomtinctures and, um, I like to add
mushrooms and all, almost allof my supplemental type of
tinctures because they really dohave such a good purpose in our

(34:33):
lives and they're not that samebad low vibration frequency
fungus.
They're a high.
They're here to help us andheal us.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
All right, well, tell people what your four mushroom
products are then.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
Recover, which has oyster and shiitake, and
shiitake has been shown to helpremove radiation from your body.
If you want to look up shiitakein Hiroshima, when we bombed
Hiroshima the shiitake mushroomactually came up and cleaned the
air and then when they did likea biopsy of that shiitake,
there was nothing in it.
It literally cleaned it andremoved it and it was just yeah,

(35:14):
it was the coolest study I'veever read.
And then so it's a heavy metaldetoxer.
That was my first heavy metaldetox time I ever did.
I did shiitake, oyster, lion'smane, turkey tail and chaga in
capsules and so that helped likekind of slowly get my body
ready for detoxing.
And then turkey tail helpedbreak down the scar tissue in my

(35:35):
body.
They actually give it topatients that are on chemo and
in the oncology world because ithelps break down and assist
with the chemo.
So people that are goingthrough any sort of cancer
treatments, it's really good toget that on board and just live
with it like the rest of yourlife.
You're going to take five gramsof turkey tail the rest of your

(35:56):
life.
It's just what you have to do.
And that helped me break downand put me into remission with
my endometriosis and myatomyosis.
Atomyosis is a scar tissuedisease, which is one reason why
I had such a high level of moldand parasites in my body,
because they both love andthrive in scar tissue, because
it's like glue and they justattach to it immediately and

(36:17):
it's an endless supply ofnutrients and endless supply of
food for them.
So of course they're going tolive in that scar tissue,
creating more atomiosis in mybody, and so every surgery I
would have there was more scartissue, so more environmental
toxins were getting in there,more heavy metals were sticking
to it that were then being eatenby the parasites.
Then, you know, it was all justthis ecosystem in my body that

(36:40):
was happening, and when Ibrought something like turkey
tail in, it literally went inand just diffused it.
It just created an inhospitableenvironment for them to
continue to create more.
It just broke it down.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
So Wow, fascinating.
Okay, well, there's your teaser, friends on some facts about
mushrooms and different waysthey can be medicinal.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
It was a huge part Christian of my journey.
I would do a lot of activemushrooms and meditate,
sometimes six to eight hours aday, to find out what was wrong
with me.
I went inward Instead of tryingto find it in the outward
setting which I'm from.
That setting I'm avaledictorian of both of my
healthcare degrees.
I'm a huge, ambitious person.

(37:26):
I'm a high functional,chronically ill person.
That's how I've always viewedmyself.
I'm chron huge, ambitiousperson.
I'm a high, functional,chronically ill person.
That's how I've always viewedmyself.
I'm chronically healing now,but I had to go in and try and
find the answers because Icertainly was not getting them
from my outside world anymore,and so mushrooms helped me with
that.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
Mushrooms, music and quiet and just introspection and
a chance to connect dots thatyou don't get in the frenetic
pace of a normal life.
So in some ways it's no fun togo through what you did, but it
was a gift to shake you out ofwhere that was going if you
hadn't done it and yeah 150,000kids later.
How many people have you helpedand health situations have you?

(38:04):
But some of our clients inparticular, you have helped
reverse their health condition.
So thank you from a lot of usfor suffering through that to
learn this stuff.
So anything else you want tosay about that before we jump to
another no, that was great.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
Thank you for those kind words, yeah, I mean I'm so
thankful that I was able to.
I mean, we have millions offollowers, you know, and I've
i've,000 kits, but I've sold alot of products and that's like
not really where I gauge it.
But it is really great to beable to have survived something
like that in order for me tolike turn it around and kind of

(38:42):
revenge health on Westernmedicine.
Thank you, yes.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
Take what they like I hate to say what they steal
from us and in some ways laughall the way to the bank.
And I sometimes think ofmedical doctors as just kind of
pharmaceutical reps.
They just got trained assalesmen and they're apologists
for a particular model, notunderstanding the birth of the
model or the limitations they'reshackled with and you being in

(39:08):
some ways forced out of that.
If you want to go back andlisten to the last episode,
you'll hear more about that.
But yeah, it's a gift tohumanity to have you, um,
survive and overcome that andthen just yeah, revenge, heal.
I like that start using thatyeah because it's true.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
I'm like I did a video the other day where I was
like you know, when you have arevenge body, I have revenge
health and I'm out to like showthat to everyone, that you also
can have revenge health, thatyou are not stuck in any.
You can change your life in somany ways.
I mean I'm only four years intothis, not even a full four

(39:46):
years.
I mean 2021 is when I startedthis and then in 2022 is when I
found out we had mold poisoningand I want to definitely go back
to that because once you startcleansing it out of your body,
even if it's just a small amount, you can do moldies up to 18
months.
You can do it beyond 18 months.
In fact, I love Immune andRecover, which came from.

(40:08):
Those are my tinctures, whichcame from the mold, because I
lost so much hair and I knowthat this is a chronic thing
with people that have moldpoisoning and parasites is they
lose their hair.
So I was like, well, what can Ido to give this to society to
help grow your hair back, togive this to society to help

(40:30):
grow your hair back?
And my nails and I have greatskin, my nails are so long, and
it's because I utilize specificherbs and so it's like, well,
combine them into one, becausethis is what you're going to
fight.
While you're removing parasitesand mold, your body is at a
point where it's like I'm doneLike this is not a necessity to
live.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
This is an extra right.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
It's the first thing to go when your body starts to
fail itself.
It is you start to thin, you gogray, like.
There's things that you can doto reverse that and one of those
things is just specific herbsthat you can take into your body
to get the nutrients.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
Yeah, all right.
Well, let's talk about thatmold more specifically, because
we covered parasites pretty welllast time, but give people just
high level symptoms of a moldinfection or maybe things they
would or wouldn't think ofrelated to maybe give them some
indication to look deeper atthat my brain fog was just so

(41:30):
unbelievable Like I could notfunction at all.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
I remember texting Erica, who runs the other half
of Rogers Hood with me, and Iwas like I don't know what's
going on, but like I can't eventype this out without pausing
because my brain fog is sointense, and so it was really a
huge indication that I needed tolook at something else that was
going on with my environment,and I found the mold in my

(41:53):
travel trailer.
It started in my HVAC unit.
There were a couple things thatI now look back and realize.
One we had a leak in ourbathroom.
That is a huge thing thathappens to people and they don't
realize that when you have aleak, it is in multiple places
and you need to cut it out.

(42:14):
You have to go in once you havethat leak and you need to cut
it almost all the way out andthen treat that surrounding area
to not have more mold or haveany mold start, and so being
very proactive.
If you do have a leak or yourHVAC unit which is, I would say,

(42:37):
the number one way we all getmold poisoning you close your
windows down, so the spores arenow living in your environment.
With you, you're breathing.
Spores are now living in yourenvironment.
With you You're breathing,which creates condensation, so
you're just activating thosespores even more and you turn
your air conditioner on, whichit lives in your air
conditioning.

(42:57):
If you're not cleaning out yourHVAC unit, a lot Like you have
to go in there and clean it withperoxide or vinegar.
Never use bleach.
Bleach actually activates it,causing it to feel fear, and
it'll create more spores whenyou use bleach.
So vinegar and peroxide snuffit out.

(43:17):
And so what you're trying to dois snuff it out in your
environment because you'rebreathing it in creating a moist
, mucus-filled environment inyour body that makes it produce
more spores.
So there are a few things thatyou can do to test your
environment.
We talked about this before.

(43:38):
We podcasted today is there's acompany called GotMold and
GotMoldcom actually will helpyou understand what spores are
in your house, if any.
It's like $250 to do threerooms.
You do your most slept in orlived in rooms to see and then

(43:59):
you can get an idea from thatand you can take that to your
doctor and say, look, this isliterally in my house, which
means it's in my body.
And so I kind of took thatknowledge that I got with
parasites and I figured out ohwell, the same thing can happen
in the environmental toxins thatI'm living in.
And now that I've done all ofthese things, literally when I

(44:19):
go around mold I can tell,because I'm not on their
frequency anymore.
Like jeremy's mom went out toour log home last week.
Um, she was visiting and shewas living in mold.
We found out she had a leak inher bathroom and mushrooms grew
out of the side of her wall andI'm like, oh girl, you've got
mold man.

(44:39):
So we took the wall to thestuds.
We found the mold.
We cut all the mold out.
We treated around the mold andher whole house and you have to
treat your whole house or youhave to get rid of everything,
because spores live ineverything.
And so we treat her whole house.
Then we retested her air againand everything came back

(45:00):
negative and so we were reallyexcited.
She went out to the log home.
Our log home does not have moldin it.
We test our air, but we havemold on the outside because of
the air.
We live in the outskirts of arainforest, so it is moldy
environment there.
She came back because she'sbeen cleansing the mold.
She's been removing it from herbody.

(45:22):
She came back from thatenvironment and could not
breathe.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
And it's like it's because that's your body going I
don't want that back in meagain Like I can't have those
spores, like wait a minute, andit's in shock.
So it's doing what it needs todo, which is creating mucus,
creating inflammation and tryingto push the spores out because
your body wants to heal.
That's what it wants to do.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
Yeah, it sounds like puffiness is one of like
obviously your eyes, but justgeneral puffiness, bloating
those types of things.
And your comments even remindedme of like we take people off
sugar for a while and they goback to it and it's like it
hurts their teeth and they getinstant headaches.
Or alcohol, when you've we'veyou've been off that for a while
, you go back to like geez, I'ma lightweight.
Yeah, because your body istelling you that it doesn't want

(46:08):
this.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
It doesn't like this.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
It's poison and it's not helping you.
And because you were away fromit, you could test it and it
sounds like the same thinghappens with mold.
You just understand it in a wayyou wouldn't.
Once you've kind of cleaned itout and you've felt the
difference and I can tell fromlooking at you that your eyes
are open and you can see yeah,okay, there's a few other

(46:30):
symptoms.
I've heard that, and tell me ifyou think these may be related
to mold.
So that's things like wheezing,coughing, skin irritations,
poor vision at night, yeastbladder infections.
You mentioned memory loss orforgetfulness, and then some
people say it'll even disruptyour hunger signals.
Do all those?
sound as plausible.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
Never feeling hungry, peeing all night long Cause
your body's trying to, becauseyou're sleeping right, so you're
breathing in those spores, soit makes you get up to pee out
the spores all night long andgoing pee like once a night.
That's normal.
My husband and I were peeinglike four or five times a night
and I thought, oh, my God,what's going on with our
bladders?
Or is it, you know, we're inour forties?

(47:06):
My God, what's going on withour bladders?
Or is it, you know, we're inour 40s?
So is this what it's going tobe like until we're like 80?
I can't do this Right.
And so you know your body issaying like something's wrong.
And he wasn't getting up andpeeing as much because he's on
an APAP machine, so it wasfiltering his air before he was
breathing it in at night.

(47:27):
Not me, though.
I got to protect it.
I got, you know you're.
In my opinion, your body isprotecting your soul.
So it's like what can I do toprotect this very precious thing
that we're here to experience,but also protect the soul.
And so it's like pushing outthe spores, pushing out in your
urine and like soul.

(47:49):
And so it's like pushing outthe spores, pushing out in your
urine and like that's the onlyway it knows how to really exit
at nighttime.
For it to like, make adifference.
Interesting.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
Yeah, and metabolic disorder and you said that you
know it affects your hunger.
It does the spores colonate,like I said, on the wall.
They colonate like that in yourbody and it creates a barrier
for your body to stop eating orstop losing the weight or
creating this inflammation inyour body because you're not

(48:16):
hungry.
It stops that feeling and Inever knew what hangry was.
I didn't know what hangry wasbecause I've lived in mold for
so long that I never wassomething that I had ever
experienced and, funny enough, Iwas in Disneyland and I had
happiest place on earth, and Iknow it was not happy for me.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
Yeah, and I experienced it and I was like
what is this?
Like I got angry at everyonearound me.
I'm all.
This is not the happiest placeon earth for me right now.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
Oh all right.
Well, I'm glad you seem likeyou've overcome mostly that that
uh traumatic event.
But um, hopefully you can havea do over on that one.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
Yeah, we've gone back since.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
Okay, good, all right .
Well, if I could give you,let's say, somebody suspects
they have a mold issue and Icould give you the keys to the
kingdom and you had free reignjust to design a, an approach to
cleaning mold out of their lifeor to overcoming that and kind
of putting it in check, like wetalked about balancing out that
ecosystem, what would be yoursteps in a process?
Or how would you handle thatsoup to nuts?

Speaker 2 (49:20):
so the first thing I would do is do two to three
paraffy kits to help kind ofbreak up some of those spores.
Wormwood suppresses spores, sothen saline, saline, ceylon
cinnamon also helps push themout.
That's why I added it into theCinnabon.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
Because if you do have some spores, it will assist
with removing them while you'retaking that binder.
I would say that that's yourfirst step and then slowly start
to get yourself into themoldies kit.
Mold is emotional, so parasitesare controlling and mold is
brainwashing.

(49:59):
That's the way it is because itgets in there and it like
brainwashes you to think thatyou can't get rid of this.
It makes you think it's calleda mold hold and I saw it
firsthand with my husband whenwe were leaving our mold in the
travel trailer.
He did not want to leave, evenwhen I showed him that there was
mold on the walls.

(50:19):
I pulled all of our furnitureaway, I pulled our wall off and
I said, jeremy, this is killingus.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
Wow, it's almost like Stockholm syndrome, micro, like
it's.
It makes you want a rational.
Okay, I was gonna ask you foran example of a mold holder or
what would be a way itbrainwashes you, but that
anything else that in thebrainwashing world that would be
a symptom that maybe mold got ahold of you inside of your

(50:47):
brain and they're matching it.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
And when Jeremy's mom came back from the log home,
came back and sat down next tome with all of it, I could feel
her frequency of the moldbecause it's alive.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
It's alive Mold is a living thing.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
So you can feel the different frequencies.
When you remove that frequencyfrom your body, you longer have
that frequency.
You can feel it.
If you go near a moldydishwasher.
Does it ever make you feel likeit's dark and and like yucky?
And you can smell it.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
That's their frequency that you're able to
bring into your body and processit in your mind yeah, you never
go to a sense of moldydishwasher and feel like
snuggling up to it, like it's'sthe opposite, like, oh, there's
something off about that, Idon't want to be here.
Yeah, I could see that.
Okay, makes sense.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
Well, so oh so the next step that I would do is I
would do the cleanse, and thenthere are some biohacks that I
did that really helped memaintain, so I wasn't in like an
extreme die off.
Okay, I did a lot of red lightsauna.
Thurasage is my go-to for that.
Sauna helps push the spores outof your skin so that you're

(51:57):
sweating them out and then youbind.
So you bind prior to going intoa sauna and when you start to
push the spores out becauseyou're sweating, then you're
binding anything that could beattached to them and then
pushing them out so that theybind together.
The other thing that'sunderutilized when it comes to
different modalities for mold iscold.

(52:17):
When you go from hot to cold,hot to cold, it moves your
lymphatic system so quickly thatanything that could be living
in your lymphatic system getspushed out, and then you're able
to bind that and move that outas well.
Vibration plates that's a hugeone.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
Yeah, let me stop you there, because for somebody who
doesn't know what bind means,define it.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So binding is a negativecharged herb that you go in and
it it's like a magnet and itpulls the positive charged
toxins.
Okay, and so spores, parasites,those are positively charged
toxins, and then you grab andbring in a negatively charged

(52:56):
toxin and it magnifies it.
It's a magnet that comestogether and then puts it out of
your body, like in your poop orpee, or it doesn't go into your
bloodstream, then Okay, andother binders would be things
like clay or charcoal orcinnamon, like you mentioned.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
Okay, there's a breadth of different binders
that are things like clay orcharcoal or cinnamon, like you
mentioned.
Okay, there's a breadth ofdifferent binders that are
effective, but you also includeherbs in that as something that
matches that charge and can keepit from being able to be
harmful again.
Is that right?

Speaker 2 (53:21):
Yes, okay, so like ours is cinnamon.
It's coconut activated charcoaland Ceylon cinnamon.
That's our binder.
Okay, other companies use likecarboxy, where it's like a clay
and charcoal, and I like fennel.
That's a good binder, for ittoo is fennel.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
Okay, got it.
And then I think I left you offat vibration plate, was it?

Speaker 2 (53:47):
Yeah, so vibration, because it's moving your lymph,
which won't allow the spores tocolonate inside of your body,
creating their own environment.
And then I use red light.
Let me just tell you red lightwas the biggest game changer for
me and Jeremy's lifestylechange and frequencies.
I would say that mold anti-moldfrequencies that you can find
on like Z-App or on YouTubeZ-App's, free or on YouTube are

(54:13):
the best for mold.
Parasite frequencies are reallygood, but mold frequencies,
specifically aspergillus niger,cause that's pretty much what we
all are exposed to.
That's the toxic mold and itwill vibrate them.
You grab the red light, youhead into your sauna.
I have a red light sauna, so Ihead into there with my binder

(54:33):
and like I felt like a whole newperson because I was vibrating
the spores, disrupting theirhome, right With the red light.
That was like killing them at acellular level and then I was
sweating them out.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
Nice, let's talk about value stacking your
biohacks.
Well done, okay.
So we've got testing andremediation you talked about.
We've got your Parify orMoldy's kits.
You've got some of the biohacksred light, vibration plates, et
cetera.
Any other lifestyle or biohacktype things that you would

(55:08):
encourage people to consider.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
The next level.
Once you kind of get throughall of these levels of cleansing
and adding these smallermodalities, I really recommend
doing something like hyperbaricchamber oxygen therapy.
Oxygen therapy for people thathave mold poisoning is next
level because it's colonized inour lungs and it will help push

(55:31):
out the spores that are insideof our lungs with the mucus,
because, you know, lack ofoxygen is how we all die.
So if you can bring in oxygenwith like an HBOT which I have
one, I love it.
It was a game changer for mymold and lime.
It will actually go in andsnuff it even more, allowing you
to breathe better, becauseyou're breathing in 100% oxygen.

(55:53):
Your body is encased at 32 PSI,so it's like a pressure.
You're pressurized inside ofthis chamber.
That's pushing the oxygendeeper and deeper into your skin
, deeper and deeper into yourbody.
And then I use a red light ofcourse, so pushing it all down
in there you do about an hour.
I bind afterwards because I'venow kind of created a new

(56:15):
environment for them to kind offloat around in and I'm trying
to pull them together and pushthem out of my body and then NAD
.
Those are my two high levelthings that I've done in the
last year that has changed mymold cleanse journey in such a
different way is that the HBOTand the NAD.
It really just boosted mymitochondria, which they live in

(56:37):
our cells, so you've got topush them out as much as you can
.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
Got it, man.
That's great.
You've covered a lot ofdifferent disciplines.
I've hinted that on differentshows, but putting them together
in an action plan is great.
Are you familiar at all withchlorine dioxide, DMSO,
nanosilver?
You?
Ever use any of those no.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
Not yet All right.
I know it's on my list.
It's on my list.
Fantastic, I might be able toteach you something.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you will.
I know it's like I get it,though there's so many different
levels of things that you canbring them in when you need them
.
Like you know, I think peoplejust think that when we're

(57:15):
healing, we can only do it in aspecific way.
But like today, yeah, there's somany.
I'm working on my gut right nowLike I worked on my lymphatic.
We're doing a lymphatic kitdrop next month, so it's like I
know that, yeah, I'm excited,and so I know that these things
that we're all doing sound sooverwhelming.

(57:37):
But, to be honest with you,just slowly chip away at it, do
it at your own pace, and I thinkthat you'll start to feel
better as a human being, as yourbody starts to just get rid of,
you know, this round of crap,and then the next round is like
it's, it's a journey until youdon't do it anymore and then

(57:58):
you're not around, and that'snot what we want.
We want the highest quality oflife that we can live while
we're here.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
No, I like what you're saying because that's
part of the frame that we'vebrought to.
We run a coaching program tohelping people detoxify as well,
and I can't throw everything Iknow at them at once, so I
really have to be methodical andalmost teach them master one
thing, get comfortable here,make sure your body's stable,
and then let's try another.
And sometimes we stack them andsometimes we sequence them.
But when you have a process andyou've done, you've spent

(58:26):
enough time trying differentthings your intuition gets so
much sharper and you know whenyou need a binder versus a red
light, versus an ozone or anoxygen chamber or whatever, and
you just have this smorgasbordof tools and a way to deploy
them in a way that's whetherit's cost-effective or whether
it's travel-friendly or whateverthe options are.
There's so many ways to heal.

(58:47):
I hope that's one thing thelisteners take away.
There's so many paths towellness and learn from people
who overcome dramatic things,like Kim, or some of the stories
I could tell of what we've beenable to do transforming
clients' lives, but one of the.
I know you gotta go soon so Idon't wanna keep you too long,
but you mentioned last time wetalked about live blood analysis
and you said you were about tohave that done.

(59:07):
Was there anything you want totell people about that or any
other modality that we didn'tcover related to this topic of
mold or what we can learn fromyou?
I haven't done it yet.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
I need to go do it, though I haven't done it yet, I
know.
I know I did TPE.
I did therapeutic plasmaexchange instead, which is where
we can talk about that later.
But look up, therapeutic plasmaexchange is something I just
got done doing in January, andnow Jeremy finished his last one

(59:39):
yesterday and it's basicallywhere it's plasma for recess.
They hook you up to a machineboth of your arms, one of your
arms.
They pull out the blood whichyour blood has red blood cells,
white blood cells, platelets andplasma and plasma is where it
holds the mold spores, the Lyme,bad cholesterol, inflammation,

(01:00:04):
parasites and it just collectsinside of the plasma.
This will remove 70% of that inyour body.
Wow.
So they pull all of that outand then inside of this big
machine, which is why you pay somuch for it.
It's like $5,000 to $10,000 pertime to do it.
It takes four hours, so it's afour-hour process.

(01:00:26):
You sit there for four hours.
They pull the plasma or theypull the blood out process.
You sit there for four hours.
They pull the plasma or theypull the blood out.
They spin it down in acentrifuge inside of this
machine, separating the plasmafrom your blood, and then they
put the blood back in your body.
The red blood cells, the whiteblood cells and the platelets
all go back into your body andthen the plasma goes in a bag

(01:00:50):
that they throw away later.
They put albumin inside, whichis like electrolytes in as a
placeholder with the blood thatyou just put back in your body.
They put the albumin in therewith it and that helps your body
create more plasma again, andthen it's like a kitchen sink.
You wring it out again in aweek and then you remove it, you

(01:01:15):
spin it, you clean it and thenyou put the albumin back in and
you do it again.
It's rinse and repeat.
Rinse and repeat.
It's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
No wonder your skin is now glowing.
Good job, yeah, fantastic, allright.
Well, I don't want to keep youtoo long, so tell people where
they can find you, follow yourwork, anything about your new uh
limp kit you got coming outthat you want them to know, and
anything else we didn't cover.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
Well, thanks for having me.
I always love chatting with you.
It's such a good time, um, andI'm excited to chat more about
all of the things that you do,cause I want to learn more about
it, I think you know.
I think we're at the nextstages of podcasts, where we
definitely can share thatinformation, where people that
on my side will listen and havea better understanding of what
you do as well.

(01:01:58):
But, mrs Rogers Hood, you canfind me on all of the platforms
and then on IG it's MrsRogersHood.
I have a new podcast what'sEating you?
You can find that on YouTube.
I heard that and you can findrogershoodcom and our lymph kit
drops and it's L-Y-M-F, so lymphkit drops on May 15th.

(01:02:19):
We're so excited abouteverything.
Next week I'm going on Dr JoshAxe, so we'll be on him and then
I know we're just like we'removing along here really trying
to teach people how to be theirown patient advocate and kind of
get into their own wellnessworld.

Speaker 1 (01:02:36):
Rock on Well.
Keep up the good work, kim.
It's a pleasure knowing you andbeing able to pick your brain
once in a while.
So thanks from all of us laypeople who just like somebody
who can do the study and make itapproachable for us.
So thanks for what you do andwe'll have you back on again
sometime in the future.
Thanks.