Renita Brannan: Navigating Controversies and Miraculous Healing with Phototherapy

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello everyone, welcome to episode number 43.
I have a special show for youtoday.
This one is about theprofoundly fascinating and
healing world of light therapy.
My guest is Renita Brannon.
She has been a health coach forover 25 years and has a really
impressive resume that you'llhear about during the interview,
as usual.

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Before I got into the topic, Ilove to give the story of the
person behind whatever it iswe're covering, so relevant to
the frame of deconstructingconventional Renita and I talked
about her eight and a halfyears as a TV personality on her
local NBC station and how shegot to see the ugly underbelly
of how corporate media works tocreate ongoing crises or how

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corporate sponsors get todictate content.
And then she tells thepredictable COVID era story of
how she was suddenly fired andhad all 670 of her episodes
taken down because she wasn'tbeing a good little girl going
along with the COVID narrative.
So one of the things I likeabout Renita is that she is a
person of conviction andintegrity and, as you'll hear,

(01:02):
she isn't afraid to speak truthand, like me, she won't put her
name behind anything she doesn'tbelieve in.
So after we talk about herbackground, we get into our
discussion of light therapy.
So to set the stage for thistopic, all of us are familiar
with the reality that our skingets darker the more we're out
in the sun, and most people haveheard that the body begins the
process of producing vitamin Dwhen we're in the presence of

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sunlight.
So the simple concept you canhold in your mind as you go
through this episode is thatvarious spectrums of light
produce different andpredictable biological responses
in the body.
We've all experienced that.
This was a fun topic for mebecause I wasn't really looking
to get into studying light, butit kept coming at me from people
I really respect.
So during the interview Imentioned some of my stories,

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and so I won't spoil all of themhere.
But between a coaching client,I have my interview with Todd
Shipman, who used red light tohelp his mom radically reverse
cancer, to Dr Andreas Kalker,who expanded my concept of
biophysics, to my off-the-recordconversations with Catherine
Austin Fitz and the books anddocumentaries she's asked me to
study, and, more recently, myconversation with Hilda

(02:10):
Labratagor, who, by the way, hashad over 500 interviews on all
things health, and so I askedher the question, and she always
asks her guests, and that's ifthe listener could do one thing
to improve their health, whatwould you recommend they do?
And Hilda's answer was to getsunshine every day, especially
first thing in the morning.
So of everything Hilda haslearned, she picked light as the

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number one thing to focus on.
And, tellingly, both Dr HeatherGessling and Dr Lee Vliet, who
I've featured in otherinterviews, have both mentioned
to me in the last few months thetopic of photobiomodulation,
which is a fancy term for lighttherapy, so both of them are big
fans of it.
And on top of all this talkabout light, it reminded me of
the classic scripture let therebe light.

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And as I pondered that, Irealized hang on.
On day one the sun wasn'tcreated yet.
So what was the light?
And in the first chapter of theGospel of John he refers to
Jesus as the true light thatgives light to every man.
Huh, so I may be a little slowon the uptake, but I eventually
got the message that this issomething I need to look into.
And, sure enough, the scienceof light therapy is all over

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PubMed and the patent record andso on.
One of the most fascinatingthings I've learned that I
didn't mention during theinterview is that I found out
there's a visible flash of lightthat happens at the moment of
conception when the sperm andegg come together, and there's
also a flash of light at themoment of death.
And the flash of light atconception is actually easy to

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find on YouTube.
You can go look it up if youwant to see it.
But today's conversation iskind of the culmination of
various things I've been lookinginto the last couple of years
and if you listen to myinterview with Hilda, you may
remember I teased the idea thatI'm working on a podcast series
I'll call I'll probably call AChristian Perspective on Energy
Medicine, so maybe consider thisepisode another teaser about

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that topic.
So after Renita and I talkedabout the science and history of
one particular form of lighttherapy, she starts telling
stories of healing that willblow your mind.
And we barely scratched thesurface of the health
transformation she haspersonally witnessed using light
therapy in people and in pets.
So let me tease you with thisIf you or your pets have been

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diagnosed with something quoteincurable, like her mom's
Parkinson's, wait until you hearthat story or the story of her
friend's dog.
Renita has literally sheliterally works with 400 doctors
in her network and I know a lotof doctors, but not that many.
A couple of final pieces ofcontext for this episode is that
there are a lot of differenttypes of light therapy.

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So there's lasers, there's redlight devices, infrared saunas
and even lights for seasonaldepression.
So the version of light therapywe talk about is a simple patch
you wear on your skin and, tomy delight and surprise, it's
backed up by mountains ofscience and patents and doctors
and jaw dropping testimony.
So the company we talk about inthis episode is called LifeWave

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and, full transparency, theyare a network marketing company
and, similar to products likechlorine dioxide, lifewave was
basically shoehorned into thatmodel because Rockefeller and if
you don't know that reference,you can check out episode two of
my podcast but suffice it tosay that any discovery or
invention that challenges ourmonopolistic healthcare system
is often ruthlessly suppressedand has a hard time breaking

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through into mainstream.
So if you know the story ofchlorine dioxide or OSR or
structured nanosilver orcountless other promising
therapies, particularly cancertherapies, then you're already
familiar with the predictablevilification of things that
actually work.
So I say that to say if, afterdoing our due diligence on the
science and the company and theproducts, I am thrilled to say

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that both Dr Gessling and myselfare big fans of LifeWave and we
are delighted to be sharing themessage of something so
profoundly simple and powerful,so similar to some of the other
things I just mentioned.
I truly think that as anawareness of light therapy grows
, it will continue to loosen thegrip of that reactionary,
chemistry-centric model ofhealthcare that has claimed the

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title of conventional for waytoo long.
So, I suppose, as it should be,following my last episode on
salt, welcome to an episodeabout light.
So here's to an even deeperappreciation of what it means to
let your light shine and tohaving another great tool in
your holistic health arsenal.
And welcome to an enlighteningconversation with a world-class

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health coach and truth teller,renita Brannan.
All right, hello everyone.
Welcome to today's show.
My guest is the lovely RenitaBrannan, so let me tell you a
little bit about this womanyou're about to meet.
She would first describeherself as a child of God.
She is a wife and a mother ofthree boys.
She's got a bachelor's inphysical education and business.
She literally has more healthand fitness certifications than

(06:58):
I have fingers and toes.
She's got 25 differentcertifications, so here's just
some of them.
She's a certified personaltrainer, a certified nutrition
coach.
She is delay the diseasecertified for those with
Parkinson's, neurodegenerationand movement disorders.
She is a certified behaviorchange specialist, a certified
biblical health coach and,interestingly, certified in

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endocannabinoid system.
And Renita pioneered the CBDindustry in North Dakota and
played an integral roleeducating the state legislature.
So well done, renita.
That led to basically themrewriting the state century
codes to differentiate betweenhemp, cbd and marijuana.
She created a DVD exerciseseries for an international
bestseller that became aninternational bestseller for a

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billion dollar company.
She was featured on CNNheadline news for testimony
Tuesday.
I love this one because shecreated a program that helps the
state of North Dakota lose acollective hundred thousand
pounds of body weight, which Icannot say I've done.
I don't know if I've had thatmuch weight loss, so that's
pretty impressive.
She also coauthored not one buttwo Amazon bestsellers.

(08:02):
One was nice and Fat and theother is my CBD Money Tree.
For eight and a half years shewas a TV personality on NBC in
North Dakota and she's done over2,500 presentations in her
career to people of all ages tohelp educate them in health,
nutrition and fitness.
And more recently she workedwith America's frontline doctors
for a year creating educationaltraining to teach doctors about

(08:26):
natural health, which I can saythere's a need for there's a
lot of doctors that have beenslow on the uptake, to learn
about healing instead oftreatment.
But, renita, that is one long,impressive resume and I barely
scratched the surface of it.
So well done.
Thank you for taking the timeto chat with me today.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
Hey, thanks for having me, christian.
I just love what you're doingto wake up the world, educate
them and bring all healingmodalities together for the good
of humans.
Let's get everybody healthy andalert and awake.
And I just you know I have athing I've been saying lately
get up world.
It's time for everybody to getup and face what's going on and

(09:02):
step into the light and knowthat they can take control for
their families and theirfamily's health.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
So happy to be with you today.
Well, thank you.
Yeah, it's so much more funwhen we don't operate from a
place of victimhood and when wejust realize nobody else is
going to manage your health foryou.
So let's take some ownershipand let's go make a difference
in the world.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
So it's great how the Body Heals Itself.
It's the inside effects, andyou probably have heard of some
of the amazing authors thatco-authored with me but Kelly
Brogan, Dr Bradley Nelson andhe's a motion body code and so I
was one of the authors of thatbook, so that just came out, oh
yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
Those are two other big names.
So well done, so sorry.
Three now bestseller.
I shouldn't have underestimatedyou.
I'm sure next month there'll beanother one, but okay.
Well, so I first got introducedto you because I was trying to
find somebody to help meunderstand this world of
phototherapy or what's alsosometimes called photo
biomodulation, which I think isbasically just a fancy word for
light therapy.
But before we get into that, Ijust want people to hear a

(10:01):
little more of your story.
So you've got so manyimpressive things in your resume
.
But one thing that stood out tome last time we talked was your
eight and a half year run beinga TV personality on NBC, and
you had mentioned to me some ofjust the internal conflict that
came around with working in themedia and realizing how the work
you were doing to get peoplehealthy was kind of fighting the
agendas or the sponsors of thenews station.
So tell people some of the ofwhat went on in those years and

(10:23):
what awakening and spine you hadto grow during that part of
life.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
I'd love to.
It was really an interestingjourney.
In fact, it all really startedbecause there was one of the
gals that was the news anchorfor 30 years was having a weight
issue, and so she had heardthat this, renita Brandon, was,
you know, the the.
The word was out when I helpedpeople lose 100,000 pounds of
fat in the state so we weretalking about that from the

(10:49):
Native American Indianreservations all the way to the
you know army bases where peoplewere, you know, measuring and
weighing and submitting thesegreat results.
So the word was out that I wasreally kind of helping a lot of
people take control of theirweight.
And so she reached out to meand she said, hey, can you help
me to lose weight?
And I said, yeah, and she goes,well, maybe we should do a
segment on the show talkingabout it.

(11:10):
So it all kind of came in justwith hey, I'm going to do it and
I'm going to do it visually andI'm going to kind of do it loud
.
And so I actually becamefriends with this woman and so
we started the first segment andit was all about weight loss
and her journey and how she'sreally going to kick this weight
to the curb finally right, themenopausal type, weights and
symptoms.
And that's how it started.
Well, I think the response wasso exciting.

(11:31):
Like everybody was like, wow,like I'm intrigued with this, we
want to follow this.
So I got a call a couple ofdays later that said, hey, do
you just want to be on likeoften, like once a week, to kind
of talk about health and weightloss?
And I was like, absolutely, Imean I'm, you know, I feel like
God has called me to talk to alot of people.
For years I was a personaltrainer and, you know, group

(11:55):
fitness instructor, had my owngyms, much like you, and was
very much in the trenches one ata time.
And God really called me out ofthat and said, hey, I want you
to help the masses.
And so I thought, wow, this issuch a blessing to be able to
hop on this news and to educatethe people of North Dakota and
South Dakota.
You know we're not huge up here, christian, I mean, there's
maybe what you know 800,000people interviewing audience.

(12:16):
But for me it was verysubstantial, right, and to go
from one at a time to that.
So we started that and it wasamazing, like every week I got
to bring in fresh, great contentabout health and about
nutrition and just to expandpeople's mind.
I mean I really could talkabout whatever.
They didn't put me in a boxinitially.
It was just like we trust yousubmit to what you're talking

(12:39):
about the day before in case wehave to make any graphics for
the show.
And I just did that and I waskind of marching to the beat of
my own drum, which was wonderfulbecause again, I was just able
to really relay the message ofhealth and healing.
I mean anything.
I mean I was talking aboutprayer and meditation and I mean
all sorts of things prayingbefore meals and how that

(12:59):
affects digestion.
I mean I could really talkabout whatever I wanted.
And so the first few years wasamazing, like it was literally
like everybody was learning,everybody was happy.
I mean I would go out in publichere and I would have, you know
, 78 year old people stop me andsay, hey, I started eating
flaxseed and chia seed and I'mpooping better.
I would be like praise the Lord, right.

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So I mean it was like this.
I really felt like I was doingmy calling.
And then it started getting alittle hairy, right, there was
some controversy happening uphere in North Dakota they had
something called DAPL.
It was the Dakota AccessPipeline.
It was this whole thing withthe oil, an oil company trying
to run a pipeline through areservation and the reservation

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they didn't want it for thatparticular dollar amount.
So they were kind of going backand forth trying to negotiate.
It all comes down sometimes tothe money, right, many times it
comes back to the money.
And in the meantime this thingkind of blew up on national news
and it was wild.
I mean they had all kinds ofcelebrities, these very kind of
you know they said they werelike eco-conscious, very, I

(14:08):
would say, very liberal mindedcelebrities coming up and just
really taking advantage of thesituation.
And so every day the news.
Everybody was glued to the newsup here and you could just you
could feel it when you'd go intothe news station weekly.
I was not feeling that you know, that calm and that peace and
that joy.
It was more like like angst.
And you know they were.

(14:29):
They were really trying to movethis agenda and long story
short, I mean, and it got crazylike it ended up lasting years.
I mean, imagine this.
And it was awful what ended uphappening.
But I remember when it endedChristian, and I remember coming
into the news station that dayand it was just literally like

(14:50):
like just so somber, so sodepressing.
And I said to the lead anchor,my friend, I said hey, what's
going on?
How come everybody is so likedepressed here?
And she said Renita DAPL isover.
And I said, praise the Lord,isn't this a great thing Like
our state can kind of get backto normal and people like we're

(15:11):
getting their land taken, theiranimals, their cows were being
slaughtered because they werefeeding these people that were
at this.
I mean it was crazy stuff.
And I said isn't this wonderful?
And she said no, she said youknow what we need?
We need another crisis, we needanother crisis.
And I looked at her and I waslike I mean, it was like in that
moment, I was like it all justwent crystal clear, like, oh my

(15:33):
gosh, this media is completelymoved by crisis and chaos and
and it just shifted my wholebeing right, like so this was
happening actually right beforethe pandemic, or you know the
whole thing that happened.
I mean it literally washappening right before that.
So, going into that, then Ithought, wow, the undertone here

(15:53):
is not not really, you know,through a true authenticity
where we're showing peopleexactly what needs to happen.
We're not teaching them aboutfreedom and really health
techniques that are going towork.
It's kind of like this masschaos that moves the media.
And she actually said to medon't you know, more people are

(16:14):
watching TV, so our ad dollarsare up, renita, when there's
chaos because people are gluedto their TVs.
She said, now that that is over, she said yeah, we just need to
find a new crisis.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
And I was just like wow, you got your hand slapped
at one point for criticizingCoca-Cola.
I think too, oh.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
I got my, I got my hand slapped off.
Often I was kind of the galthat was like it was easier for
to ask for forgiveness than toask permission.
So I would always just go on tothe media and I was just all
about the truth, right, thetruth and freedom and getting
North Dakotans free and thehealth of North Dakotans and
South Dakotans, and so that wasalways my mission and I was

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always.
That was just always front andcenter for me.
If I could bring health andvitality to somebody, I was
going to be discussing it.
But I also wanted to bringawareness.
Right, I was.
I was the one think about thisnow.
This, I was the one think aboutthis now.
This is what 15, 13 years agotalking about do not use
sunscreen.
Like you know, let's, you know,let's only look for zinc oxide
if you're going to use it, anduse it minimally, right.

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So I was the one and that was ahard message because I had,
like some of the anchors, that Ihad skin cancer, you know,
literally six times lathering on, you know awful awful
sunscreens right.
Yeah that we know arecarcinogenic and so, anyway,
long story short, but I yeah onesegment I was talking about
that Coca Cola should not bedoing studies on diabetes.

(17:34):
Like it's just like a conflictof interest.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
You're right.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
It just seems odd, right.
Yeah, and so I kind of broughtthat to awareness.
On this on the news that day, Iwas saying, hey, I was actually
reading the study.
What they found which, ofcourse, is not that it's the
sugar, that's the problem, it'sthe fat.
They're always blaming fat,right Coca-Cola.
And so as soon as I got donewith the segment, of course I
hear in the newsroom RenitaBrannan to the station manager's

(18:02):
office.
Please, renita Brannan to thestation manager's office.
Please, renita Brannan to thestation manager's office.
I thought, oh, here we go.
And so I walked in there andand I'm I'm pretty much like I
always envision a force fieldaround me.
I'm pretty resilient.
But I went in there and, yeah,pretty much he hammered me and
he's like listen, uh, you can'tthrow or add uh dollars under
the bus.
You can't throw the people thatare supporting the entire show

(18:24):
under the bus.
You know, I mean you know.
And I came home that day and Isaid to my husband, scott, I
said there's just such aconflict internally for me
because everything I'm saying isso truthful and so healthy and
so amazing.
And then, right after mysegment, it's followed with a
Coke commercial or apharmaceutical commercial, right
.
So I said there's like so I wasstarting to have this internal

(18:45):
battle, christian, where I waslike, yeah, I knew I was
supposed to be there, I knew Iwas standing as the light in the
darkness, but it got.
It got more and more difficultfor me, no question about it,
because it was just like I'd geton there and I just knew I was
going to get called to thestation manager's office.
Most segments right.
Because I was just revealing toomuch truth too fast.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Yeah, Well then fast forward to COVID.
And so you end up gettingterminated.
And then they go and censoryour internet presence, get
scrubbed.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Tell people that story, oh yeah, so I mean it got
wild.
Yeah, so I knew and I've alwaysbeen a freedom fighter, like I
was the mom that you know 20years ago quit vaccinating my
kids, right.
And so we have three boys.
They're 24, 18, and 16.
And we just chose not tovaccinate.
When my oldest was two and ahalf, I had read a great book
called the Politics of Cancer byDr Samuel Epstein.

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I had gone back to school formy doctorate in holistic
nutrition, so I was reallygetting a huge education about
this conflict of interest thatexisted between, basically, the
pharmaceutical companies and howyou know, some of those head
kingpins over there were all ofa sudden running the FDA right.
So there was definitely allthis conflictual stuff going on.
So I had that awareness 20years ago and so I obviously

(19:57):
quit using everything you knowhome cleaning products and
dyeing my hair, and I kind ofwent on this tangent where I
really got holistic really quick.
I mean, we quit healthinsurance.
There's no more healthinsurance because I'm like, well
, I don't want insurance becauseit doesn't cover anything that
I actually use, right.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
Right the same way.
Yes.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
Yeah, yeah, I was done with that 20 years ago.
And actually Dr Simone Gold,when I was partnered with Gold
Care, she actually said to meyou were way ahead of me, right.
And I was like, yeah, so it waslike a long time ago.
But yeah, so I was.
I knew, they knew that I wasvery much a freedom fighter.
They knew that I was notnecessarily coming out as an
anti-vaxxer, I was just verymuch pro-education, like, if

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you're going to put this needlein your children, can you name
three to five ingredients ofwhat's in this vaccine?
Oh, you can't, and neither canyour doctor.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
Doctor Right.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
And so, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So it was that conversation,that was that I was, you know,
talking and saying hey, listen,you know, I want everyone to be
able to have the freedom ofchoice, to choose, but you also
need to educate yourself morethan you would to go on your
next vacation.
But most people are, like youknow, researching, you know,
their next vacation more thanthey're researching what they're
injecting into their children,which is irreversible, many

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times Right.
And so for me it was just thatmessaging and I was very clear
about it.
They knew about that.
I was that freedom fighter, thateducation, pro education
message at the news station, andI knew that there was some
writing on the wall when I sawthe producer say, well, all
those anti-vaxxers are going toget what's coming to them, like
when he posted that on Facebook,my husband goes, oh, and I said

(21:33):
, you know, I said I'm justgoing to ride this thing out and
I mean I'm just going to do myvery.
I just made a commitment,christian, to do everything with
the spirit of excellencewherever I go.
That's just who.
I am, and so I thought I'm justgoing to be honorable and I'm
going to keep spreading thetruth.
I'm going to do it in love andI'm just going to keep doing the
next right thing.
That's just how I thought tomyself.

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I'm not drawing any bigawareness anywhere.
I'm just going to do the nextright thing as this presents
itself.
And actually I'll never forgetit.
We had actually, because of thepandemic actually I'll never
forget it I we had actuallybecause of because of the
pandemic, they had actuallyswitched, so no one was coming
into the station and everythingwas being broadcasted from home,
so I was broadcasting from home, so my segments became more

(22:14):
like cooking segments andexercise segments with my kids,
and so I'll never forget the.
It was the Monday after Easterand we had just had a segment on
where my boys made gluten-freecarrot cake with me.
So we were kind of like thefamily, the healthy family, that
was cooking on TV.
People loved it.

(22:34):
I mean, how can you not lovekids cooking right, and little
aprons and stuff, and so givinghealthy ideas, healthy recipes,
healthy substitutions, amazingright, amazing content.
I was just like I was per usual, and all of a sudden I get a
phone call on because I startedsaying hey, listen, we need the
vitamin A from carrots becauseit protects the epithelial
lining of the lungs.

(22:55):
And so I started talking thatlanguage, like vitamin D,
vitamin A, how we can get thesethings naturally.
You know.
My messaging kind of went hey,listen, this is a great
opportunity.
Many of you have said you don'thave time to exercise Now.
You're all at home.
We've got all the time in theworld we are actually going to
get in the shape of our livesright.
Are you guys ready for this?
So my messaging was veryoptimistic, very much talking

(23:17):
about nutrient density, talkingabout sunshine, fresh air, and I
they were not liking it.
I mean, I could feel thepushback when I would submit my
segments the day before, wherethere were, they were asking
more questions, right Like.
And so when I started saying,hey, you know with this, you
know if any of you have beenexposed to this, just make sure
you're getting plenty of vitaminA, start eating more things

(23:38):
with beta carotene in them, likethe carrots and the carrot cake
that we're making today,because it's going to help
protect the lungs I mean, justme giving clues like that.
They were just cringing.
And so it was the Monday afterEaster and the station manager
called me and he said hey,renita, I was just viewing the
segment from your Thursday orWednesday show.
And he said you know it was,you're just moving in a

(23:59):
different direction than us.
And I said what I said?
What does that even mean?
And he goes well, you know,you're just moving in a
different direction than us,we're just making some changes.
And I said well, the directionI've always moved in, that I
haven't always moved in is thedirection of health and healing
for North Dakotans and thewellbeing of our state and all
of our viewing audience.
I mean, that's been my primaryfocus for over eight and a half

(24:22):
years.
And he goes yeah, he said it'sjust a different direction than
we're moving right now.
He didn't come right out and sayI'm just at, totally on the.
You know, I'm the captain ofthe craziest ship, you know.
You know, and this guy is aclaiming Christian, which always
is comical to me, right.
Oh, a claiming professionChristian, right.
And I'm like here he is likecutting truth, right, because of

(24:45):
money.
At the end of the day, it wasall money.
And I'll never forget one otherthing that I didn't mention to
you before.
So it was done.
That day was officially.
I was like done off the news.
And I'll never forget when myfriend that had been the friend
of mine that had gotten shape,of course she got the shape of
her life, of course, christian,you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
Right, well, you were directly involved.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
Yeah, got a whole lot of medication.
She was like thin, we weredoing 5Ks.
Now we went from her beingoverweight to like filming every
5K that her and I were doingtogether.
I mean, that's pretty much howher journey went, which was
incredible and long story short.
She called me up and she saidcan?
And we were sitting outside myhouse and I will never forget
her saying I feel guilty that somany people have lost their

(25:27):
jobs financially and all of themoney that they have been giving
me.
That's what she said to me Ifeel guilty, all the money.
And I thought I didn't put twoand two together, that hey,
these Kingpin news reporterswere literally being compensated
big time.
Right to move the agenda, tomove the messaging, and she goes
.
I actually feel guilty becauseI know all of the people that

(25:47):
have lost their jobs during thisand here I sit and they're
paying me royally.
She never came right out andsaid you know to move the
message.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
It feels like blood money.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
Yeah, but there was just a moment of truth that she
had, that she was bearing withme that day and honestly I just
knew then that that was notsomebody that I could be
associated with anymore.
So that was the last time wespoke and I mean, so I actually
ended a relationship out of thatdeal as well because I thought,
you know what, I just can't bearound this energy.

(26:16):
It's very deceiving.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
Yeah, no, it is, and I wanted people to hear some of
these stories because there's agrit and there's a conviction
and a commitment to truth andfreedom.
That is part of you and we bothshare that, and it's truth is a
lonely warrior sometimes, andit's not popular to speak truth
to power or to bring sunlight tovaccines or pharmaceuticals or
whatever.
They just don't like that.
And I'm and you and I've talkedbefore and I think we both
could have made a lot more moneyover the years if we were

(26:39):
willing to champion things wedon't agree with or don't
believe in.
And what I love about you isyou won't do that and you'll
stand by something and you'llactually do your due diligence
and go get the lengths ofcertifications to make sure you
know what you're talking about.
And when you find somethingthat can be a significant game
changer, you'll get behind it.
And to me, that made yousomebody I wanted to talk to in

(27:00):
my exploration of this idea oflight therapy and phototherapy.
And like I got to be able totalk to somebody that I'd trust,
who would share my values.
And they have a history ofdemonstrating, they have a spine
, and so here we are anddelighted to be able to do
something.
Well, it's something I'vestudied for a while and
interesting I you know I'm Iblame a few people.

(27:20):
I had a client turn me onto theidea of a Russian blanket many
years ago and I just kind offiled it.
I didn't know what to do withit.
But it's this idea that it kindof bounces the body's light
back into it and can help youheal, and so I'm like I don't
know how to study a Russianblanket but and several things.
And then Catherine Austin Fitzcame to town and her and I just
talked off the record and she'sgot me reading visible aspect of

(27:41):
health so that I can kind ofbring a Christian perspective to
some of this stuff.
And so there's a lot I've beenlooking into.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
Well, I've always said that quantum physics is
prayer, so as Christians weshould embrace it the quickest.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
It's the fastest way to do anything.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
Hello, I have three sons and when one was in college
I was praying for him, he wasthree hours away, but I believe
those prayers were beingreceived by him, right, like, I
believe, like what, what I wassaying and what I was throwing
out to God and the atmosphere,the energy, the world was
actually being received by Boand changing his, his, his
environment, right, and so, asChristians, we've always
believed in the power of prayer,right, I mean, this is why we

(28:18):
all pray, or is it just?
I've always said to my husbandlike we should have been first,
as Christians and those who justbelieve in the abundance of God
, we should be the ones first tolead this whole.
You know quantum physics,quantum realm, charge, because
it essentially is prayer andit's thoughts are things, and
it's like you know our mouth,you know, blessings and curses

(28:41):
are coming out of the mouth.
I said to Scott the other day,what if it all is just literally
the intention of our bodyhealing itself and voicing that
out loud?
And then it's done.
What if?
What if it's just like that?
What if this whole other arenahas been just created to sell
right and um?
And so I just think to myself,yeah, it's really interesting

(29:02):
when you step your toe on that.
I've been in that for a whilebecause then again, just like I
was battling the news station,now I'm battling Christians and
saying I'm a cultic and I said,well, this is a cultic because
it has been hidden.
So if you look up the wordcultic it means hidden.
So you know, these things havebeen hidden from christians and
we've been kind of on this onetrajectory where we've trusted,
you know, modern medicine and Iactually said to my husband

(29:24):
about, you know, six years ago.
I said, well, what happenedbefore modern medicine?
Did everybody just die off?
That was sick?
I said I mean, think about howthe world existed you know what
I mean Like even throughbiblical times, for thousands of
years, and not everybody's dead.
And the pharmacologicalindustry only came into play,
whatever you know, 100, 150years ago, and so you're telling
me that we need these drugs tolive Like.

(29:46):
No, we don't Like, we don'tneed them, and so.
But it's so interesting howChristians will hate the idea of
breathing and movement becauseit's called yoga.
I'm like, well then, call itPilates, right, call it
stretching or breathing right.
Who cares about they're gettingtoo caught up with the name.
And I'm like, because I've seenpeople that have not had to
have back surgery after doingyoga, I said they're not walking

(30:08):
in worshiping some weird God.
They're Jesus lovers and Jesuslives in us.
But they're stretching andbreathing which they might not
have done individually.
Now they're in a class doing itwith a bunch of old people and
now they don't have to have backsurgery.
Now I don't care who you are,you can't tell me that that is
satanic, like I think thatpeople not having to take their
drugs is actually freedom.
And so, but you know what I feellike.

(30:30):
Now we're contending with thisChristian mindset.
Where you're talking about, youknow, we can't say the word
yoga, we can't say even quantumphysics.
Sometimes it's hard forChristians to wrap their mind
around or to step into becausethey're like I don't know and
I'm like meanwhile we all carryaround cell phones, right.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
Like invisible things right.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
Exactly the whole time and I'm like what Like.
So there's really thismisalignment and lack of
education and it's abrainwashing Christian that you
and I are.
Now we're helping to overcomepeople that have been.
I always say brainwash yourselfbefore the world brainwashes
you, because we are all beingbrainwashed All of us are being
brainwashed, and so you've gotto brainwash yourself and your
family, because if not, you'regoing to get the brainwashing of

(31:12):
what's happening from the world, which is pretty sickening for
the most part.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
Yeah, well it's.
It's fun because I one of thekind of ways that helped me
shift my thinking.
I interviewed Andreas Kalker, Idon't know a year, kind of a
subcategory of that, and we livein such a chemistry-centric
model.
But when you can appreciate,there's magnetism and
electricity and light and soundand motion and temperature and
all of these different thingsare related to any one of them.

(31:38):
If I run a strong enough magnetby you, or enough temperature
or enough electricity, you'regoing to feel it, and just
because we can't see themdoesn't make them not real.
But there's measurable things inthis realm that have so much
impact and so obviously we'relimiting ourselves to just light

(31:59):
today.
But there's that one when youcan have the paradigm to say all
of these are created things andas we recognize or are able to
measure them.
So there's that great versething is in proverbs.
It says it's the glory of godto conceal a matter and it's the
glory of kings to seek it out,like it he delighted in, like
hiding things, like I wonder howlong it's going to take him to
find that and and we go figureout more about how he made this
world.
But it doesn't have to bethreatening if we can hold that
this, there's a differencebetween the creator and created

(32:19):
things, and there's there'swisdom or reason to be skeptical
, and it's not that we shouldput all that aside, but let's,
let's exercise some intellectualheft here and see what we can
find, and that, to me, has beena fun exploration of light and
phototherapy.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
And so a lot of my Hosea to my people perish
because of lack of knowledge.
I mean, it's just likefoundational here guys, like
we've got to get after it.
But I've said this often thatand I'm guilty of it too, and
you too, probably Christian,because we're you know we talk a
lot of nutrition andnutraceuticals and all that, but
we've been very biochemicallytrained as a world where you
take this pill, you eat thisfood, right, Phytonutrients,

(32:56):
phytochemicals you're eatingthis and it's creating a
biological change in the bodyand we're masters of talking
this right.
This is how I helped the stateto lose a hundred thousand
pounds of fat.
So I feel like I can talknutrition all day long.
I mean, you want to talk keto,you want to talk intermittent
fasting, blood sugarstabilization, we could talk
them all, but again, you'restill literally utilizing this
biochemical to create abiological.

(33:19):
The thing we've not discussed isthe bioenergetic realm.
Like you're talking about thisbioenergetic, this bioelectrical
realm, whether it be thesunlight or different
frequencies of light or evenjust different people, you know
there is a transference ofenergy happening between people.
You get around people and youeither get fired up or you get
repelled Right, and so I feellike there's this energetic
thing happening, the invisiblerealm that we can't see all day

(33:41):
long.
And what if I've always saidyou don't go on, you don't go on
the front porch and open yourmouth and let the deep drop in.
Okay, you're not standing.
None of us are standing on ourfront decks today with our mouth
open to get the vitamin D.
No one's opening their mouth forvitamin D, right, Like the
natural sunlight, but that's thebioelectrical that's coming in,
creating the most massivebiological response.

(34:05):
We actually, vitamin D isnecessary for every single one
light light from the sun, thespectrums of light are necessary
for every single one of ourcells to function properly.
Right, and that is literallyfrom the rays of sun.
So again, there's thatbioelectrical creating the
biological.
So I feel like that's the realmthat all healthcare is moving

(34:26):
into now, where we're movingaway from this, you know, this
juggernaut of the biochemicaland the pharmacological and even
nutraceuticals, because I'mlike nutraceuticals and
pharmaceuticals are kind of thesame right.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
You stay in the chemistry lane, you're still
going to stay stuck.
And if we can't recognize thatwas weaponized and built by
monopolistic interests to keepus in a particular trance and we
can say, hang on, there's a lotmore to like.
We know prayer works like okay.
Well, maybe we can tease outsome mechanisms of it or we can
understand something else morefantastic about how God set the
world up to work.
But we don't need to be afraidto let go of at least opening up

(35:06):
to what else has Rockefellerhid from us, perhaps, and kept
us from being able to find?

Speaker 2 (35:13):
And what was it that they said?
Like, why did they make it?
The Christians are afraid ofthe tree huggers.
Like you know the tree huggers,there was something.
It's negative ions when we getout next to the ocean and the
elements, right, there's allthis stuff happening with the
electrons, right?
I mean, I look at my mom withParkinson's and the difference
that she's had with the patch,single-handedly, out of all the
modalities of healing we've donewith my mom since she was

(35:35):
diagnosed with Parkinson's eightand a half years ago, the thing
that created the biggest, mostimpressive response was the
phototherapy patch.
That was it.
But I can tell youfirsthandedly have we prayed
about this?
Yes, we prayed about this,right.
But sometimes prayer moves youto an idea, to a person, to a
relationship, to an element likethe patch, right?

(35:57):
So I think sometimes people say, well, I'm still praying about
it.
I'm like, well, this is wherethe miracles are happening.
And as a Christian, we shouldprobably run to where the
miracles are happening.
Okay, to check that out overthere.
I'm going to go see.
It's kind of like you're in thedesert and there's a fire
burning over there.
I'm going to go check out thatlight, right, and so.
But I've also realized that,like my mom, energetically,
bioelectrically, there'ssomething that happens when

(36:17):
she's walking around with shoesMaybe her gait is not as good
and we throw her on the beachbarefoot and she's walking a
thousand meters with her dog nostuttering, no stumbles.
So I'm like, okay, there's nopills, there's no.
You know, it's not a placeboeffect.
She doesn't know what we'retalking about, right, she's 78.
She hasn't been trained in this, so, but how can that

(36:38):
energetically just be sodifferent when she gets on that
beach?
Right?
So there's a bioelectrical guys.
So that is it.
So we've.
I feel like this is the biggest, most impressive results that
we're seeing is in thisbioenergetic realm that hardly
anybody's really talking aboutand that a lot of Christians are
still scared of.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
Yeah, so let's go there.
So back to phototherapy.
So a lot of people, myselfincluded, until recently, I was
aware of or appreciated thatlight comes into the body, but I
didn't have a framework forlight coming out of the body.
There are a couple of books Iread just Catherine made me read
them, blame her for it, butboth of them talked about how
you can put a person.
They would do this.
They put a person in acompletely black room where

(37:18):
there's no light whatsoever, andthen they can measure the light
coming out of the person andbasically what this technology
something.
But it's a non-transdermalpatch, which means it doesn't
put anything into the body.
It's only about the size of aquarter and it's more or less a
fancy mirror that reflects lightback into the body and then

(37:39):
stimulates a copper peptidewhich has this whole host of
benefits when that happens, notthe least of which is
stimulating the body to producestem cells, which we'll talk
about that in a little bit.
But I want we got so manystories to get to, but I want to
go back to the beginning,because you know and you
interact regularly with thefounder and the creator of this
technology, david Schmidt, so Iwant you to help me tell his

(38:00):
story or where this came from.
I think originally he wasworking with Navy SEALs because
we've got this interest orbackground with the military and
Bill is a guest.
We've got this interest orbackground with the military and
he was tasked with creating aproduct to help them kind of
maintain alertness through longbouts of sleep deprivation.
So do I have that right oranything?

Speaker 2 (38:19):
Yeah, you're saying it perfectly, he, you know the
technology again.
Life has been around forever,since the beginning of time.
Right, god said not to be like,but this technology in
particular, 20 years ago, davidwas contracted by the DOD
Department of to create awearable phototherapy,
photobiomodulation technologyfor the Navy SEALs to wear
during Hell Week.
Because back then 20 years ago,if you remember, christian

(38:41):
ephedra was really popping,right, people were taking the
ephedra to lose weight and have,like that, cognitive alertness
and so, but they were havingheart problems and so a lot of
these military guys were poppingthese pills to stay alert and
awake during these 40 hourmissions and they were ending up
with heart palpitations and allkinds of crazy stuff, right?
So David of course, was broughtin to say, hey, let's create a

(39:02):
technology that these guys canuse and wear during these
submarine missions where therehave to be alert and awake for
40 hours.
And he did it.
He created the very firstphototherapy patch with LifeWave
.
It's actually called EnergyEnhancer and it's a two-patch
system, a white and a tan patch.
You wear the white on the rightside of the body, the tan on
the left, so it's like apositive negative charge, but

(39:22):
that patch actually activatesand is used, and the reason it
works to elevate the energy andbalance the energy is because it
actually utilizes fat oxidation.
So when you wear that patch,you actually burn more body fat,
especially when working out.
They have a study that showsyou burn up to 30% more body fat
while you're working out, andso I'm like gosh, the world

(39:44):
needs the energy enhancer, rightWith all the metabolic
conditions.
Everybody's got going on, andso that's how it started and it
worked.
I mean, it worked beautifully,there was no accidents, the
energy was phenomenal, so it waslike a success.
Well, what happened was, Ithink it would have probably
continued in the realm of theDOD, but 9-11 hit.
And so when 9-11 hit, it waslike boom.

(40:04):
They are like literally, andagain, 9-11 is a whole, nother
controversial talk that we couldtalk about.
Right.
But the bottom line is is thatwas like now the focus, and so
now it was no longer on this,like you know, alternative ways
of increasing energy.
And so then David was kind ofsitting there with this
technology in his hand like, ok,well, what next?
You know, because now there'sbeen a huge pivot and he

(40:27):
actually got a phone call fromone of the amazing, amazing swim
coaches down in StanfordUniversity in California,
richard Quick, and he actuallycalled David and said, hey,
listen, I heard you've got thisphototherapy wearable patch
technology.
Can my athletes wear it?
They've been dragging, they'renot doing as well with their
numbers.
We'd like to get someonequalified for the Olympic swim

(40:48):
team.
We're not having theperformance that we want.
Can they wear this patches?
Number one and number two arethey going to test positive on a
drug test?
Question every NCAA coach wantsto know, right?
And of course David came backand said yeah, no, no, nothing's
entering the body except forlight, like you mentioned
earlier, christian.

(41:09):
So the only thing entering thebody is light, different
spectrums of light, and withthis particular patch of the
energy enhancers, that spectrumof light is activating bad
oxidation, right?
So of course he goes over there, starts patching these Stanford
swimmers In the first threeweeks of patching, every single

(41:31):
swimmer not some of them, all ofthem, every single swimmer
broke their PRs in practice, inpractice.
So I mean, you know this, you'rean athlete, we've got kids that
are athletes.
You know people generally don'tknow they're not breaking PRs
in practice.
It's a game day, race day,right.
But here it was and in practiceall of them really blew by
their PRs and four qualified forthe Olympic swim team and it

(41:54):
was a great success.
In fact.
It's so funny because you knowhow sometimes God shows you
something many years in advanceand then you come around full
circle and there it is again.
Well, my husband and I actuallyremember 20 years ago like
watching ESPN and we rememberwatching the swimmers and we
remember seeing the patches onthe swimmers back in the
commentary of the media wassaying what are these swimmers

(42:18):
wearing?
We're going to have to find outwhat these patches are.
Is this some type of steroidenhancement patch?
Are these athletes doping?
Like was kind of the commentary.
So we actually have a letter inour LifeWave back offices from
WADA, the World Anti-DopingAssociation, that says they
actually took these athletes outof the water, drug tested them

(42:38):
tested.
What was in the patches?
What are they leech?
What are they giving theseathletes?
And it's so funny, christian,that my husband and I literally
witnessed that on ESPN.
We recall that when we that,when we we heard the story of
David, we're like, oh my gosh,we actually watched that happen
in real time.
Now here we are in thisbusiness, right, um, but long
story, short um.
Obviously the the everythingcame back saying nothing.

(43:00):
We didn't.
There's nothing illegal here.
We don't know how they'regetting so fast.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
Man.
Yeah, so just those parts ofthe story.
So fast forward 20 years.
He's been piling patents andstudying light therapy making
products and some of them hitand some of them are maybe not
as effective.
But there's this collection ofthings.
I was watching one of DavidSchmidt's presentations and he
talked about a worm that theyhad studied on, the planaria
worm.
I don't know if you probablyknow more about this than I do,

(43:26):
but that they were using to seebecause if you don't know a
planaria worm, if you cut itshead off, it'll just regenerate
the body.
And so they're trying to figureout okay, what, what do these?
This technology does it impactthe worm at all?
So they got a worm to regrowwhat would normally take 17 days
to do it in one day, yeah, andso you're gonna look all this
stuff up if you want, but it'sanother window, window into hang

(43:48):
on.
Something significant'shappening here, and I mentioned
earlier that there's this ideathat it stimulates a copper
peptide.
So for those of you who don'tknow, peptide is just a short
chain of amino acids which arelittle building blocks the body
uses to perform functions, sosimilar to how light influences
and creates a function, likestarts the process of producing
vitamin D.

(44:14):
This other spectrum of light canproduce this copper peptide and
it can have the ability to helpstimulate the body in different
ways to produce stem cells.
So that's a big deal in theworld of health these days, or
in the realm of all thedifferent modalities, because if
you don't know how stem cellswork, essentially they're like a
master key.
When the sperm and egg cometogether, that's the cell that
can then divide and over time,eventually those stem cells turn
into each differentiated typeof tissue that we have, which,
as I'm piecing that together,listening to him talk about this

(44:35):
worm, I'm like holy cow, likerapid regeneration of things,
which started to make sense ofthis torrent of stories I'm
hearing about how in the worldare people recovering as quickly
as they are?
But what in there did I miss?
Or what can you add to that?

Speaker 2 (44:49):
No, you're exactly right, you're explaining it
perfectly.
I mean, he really went to worknot only studying the planaria
but also lobsters, becauselobsters actually get stronger
as they age.
They like live for what youknow, an upteen amount of time,
150 years or somethingridiculous, and they actually
get stronger and stronger asthey age.
So not only was David studyingthe planaria, he was actually
studying lobsters.
To say what in lobsters isliterally creating this

(45:14):
incredible, you know, longevity,right and so.
And he found out, like, again,using different spectrums of
light, again, the modalitiesthat David uses to test are not
like we would typically use inthe modern medicine world, right
, blood urine, just those kindsof commonalities that we are so
used to saying here in the US.
In fact, he does a lot of hisresearch over at the University

(45:35):
of Ireland, which is known as,like, the largest regenerative
university in the world, wherethey're really studying things
that we're not studying here,christian.
So for me it's like sometimeswhen people say, well, what are
the testing modalities used?
You could say it to a typicalMD, and they're not even going
to know that language, they'venever heard of that.
Like, this is a like the worldof quantum physics, like you
said it's not the biochemicalrealm, like we've been so

(45:57):
trained with the pharmacologicalindustry, is it's, you know,
quantum physics and biophysicsis I feel like it's like when
people say I don't know if Ibelieve that I'm like, well,
it's not that they're not smartenough, but we're just not smart
enough, like we haven't studiedthat you know at all I mean.
So when I started learning this, I'm like it's not that it
doesn't exist, it's just that I,my knowledge base, hasn't
encompassed this yet.

(46:17):
Right so yeah, that's onthermography on my podcast.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I mean, those are themodalities.
That is more common knowledgeto David.
But in addition to that, it'sall these other ways of testing

(46:38):
that, honestly, I had neverheard of in my life, and so I'm
like what are these?
But it's because we're notusing them here.
They're using them in a lot ofinternational markets and not
yet here in the United States.
So, yes, everything you'resaying about the light.
And so his goal was to literallyfind out a way to activate this
peptide.
And for people that don't knowwhat peptides are, they're just
chains of proteins strungtogether, right?

(46:59):
So peptides, we all know aboutpeptides.
By the way, when people sayI've never heard of peptides,
well, it's becoming commonplace.
A peptide that a lot of peoplemaybe have never heard of you
know might be GHKCU, but apeptide that they probably have
heard of is insulin, right.
And so another peptide they'veheard of is collagen.
So, you know, the knowledgebase is expanding, and so the

(47:20):
beautiful thing about peptidesis they can be injected right.
So we could inject GHKCU, wecan inject insulin, right.
But what if there was a way?
to make your body, able to makeyour body on its own terms, not
an excessive amount, like theexact amount that the body needs
, because the body's so perfecthow God created us, fearfully
and wonderfully.
So, what if there was a waythat would, literally, through

(47:41):
light, could stimulate thispeptide production?
That's exactly what Davidfigured out.
And so in the case of X39,instead of an injection, which I
always say injections are shortlived, I mean think about
Define what is X39 for peoplewho don't know what that means.
So X39 is the patch that cameout four years ago.
It's a phototherapy patch.
It took the company from $30million to this year, over 600

(48:03):
million.
So this is the patch thatchanged the game for LifeWave.
All of David Schmidt'sphototherapy patches are
remarkable.
Once you understand this guykind of how you are
understanding him he's a genius.
So anything that he creates andtalks about he's genius.
And I will tell you thisthere's actually been 49 patches
created.
X39 is the one that changed thewhole game with the company,

(48:24):
because that's the one thatactivates the GHK copper peptide
that you mentioned, which,literally, when you research
that peptide, if you go Googleit right now GHK-CU what comes
up is the holy grail ofanti-aging.
That's what you're going to see.
That's what it's called is theholy grail of anti-aging.
So when I read that, I'm likeholy cow, have I been living in
a van down by the river?

(48:45):
How come?
I don't know about this?
Yeah, yeah yeah, like I mean.
I mean I consider myself to becutting edge Christian, you too,
probably, yeah.
So I'm like where have I been?
How come?
I didn't know about this?
But I always feel like when thestudent is ready, the teacher
appears, and so I was like I wasready to receive it when I came
onto it.
But long story short, with this,this peptide, the reason it is

(49:06):
so remarkable is because wecould go get it injected and
then the half-life, you know,get the injection, you walk out
of the clinic.
How long does that last, whoknows?
Right, with this patch, it justkeeps on activating that GHK
copper peptide.
So you wear the patch 12 hourson, you take it off while you're
sleeping for 12 hours, you puta fresh patch on the next

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morning and literally the wholetime your body is a regenerating
machine, regenerating all ofthese healing cells that you
were talking about earlier.
Right, that can literallyrepair and rejuvenate any system
, any organ system.
Right, the reason people die istheir stem cells are depleted.
You need stem cells to repairthe organ systems, which is why
so many elderly died during thepandemic, because they didn't

(49:48):
have the stem cell activity togo in and replenish and
regenerate all these organsystems that were starting to
fail.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
Yeah, well, I mean, naturally our stem cell
production slows down as we age,so this is kind of a way to
like buffer or boost it andwhere some of these stories come
from.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
And chronic inflammation.
So David has said that really,you know the two main things
that are kind of depleting thisstem cell creation and activity
going on in our body, whichliterally is like God's gift to
us.
By the way, let's just call itwhat it is it's God's gift to us
, but the number one thing thatis depleting it is aging, and
number two is chronicinflammation.
Well, welcome to theinflammation nation, the good

(50:22):
old USA, right when we'respraying chemicals everywhere.
And so the bottom line is is wehave, literally we're combating
both when we put this patch onright.
We're combating because somepeople say, well, why does a 20
year old need the patch?
You know, but by age 30, if youguys are listening today and
you've got to, you know, ifyou're 30, you've got a 60%
reduction of stem cell activity.

(50:43):
I mean, Christian.
I'm almost 50 and you know, by50, you've got like a 75%
reduction of stem cell activity.
I mean that should make youlike startled Right.
Yeah, Well, knowing that itdoesn't.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
There are things as simple as, like you said,
putting a sticker on your bodythat bounce light back in that
can significantly change yourbody's function.
Like there couldn't besomething easier than that.
And what for me was fun was tosay, okay, well, like I'm, I
like to think of myself as askeptic by nature.
It's probably you, becauseyou've we've just heard so many
things and so many inflatedpromises.

(51:20):
And back to the hydroxy cuts ofthe.
You know what the navy sealswere taking, like let's put,
let's find stuff that actuallyworks.
And then there's the depth ofresearch.
There's a hundred patents onthis stuff.
What was funny what you can helpme with is when I went trying
to do my due diligence on thecompany.
I go to the website and on theUS website I can't find any of
the studies listed there.

(51:41):
And I'm like so I eventuallyfound them on the UK website.
I'm like, okay, there's got tobe a story behind this.
Why in the world is thisinformation not, I'm assuming,
not allowed to be?
Or there's some strategicreason why we have to hide the
studies because somebody doesn'twant this out there.
So talk about some of theregulatory roadblocks or some of
the reasons how this technologyhas been forced to keep

(52:04):
pivoting and iterating over theyears.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
Yeah, I will tell you that we are in good standings
with the FDA.
You know, LifeWave isconsidered a wellness device, so
it's not a drug.
Like we can't make medicalclaims.
We can't treat, cure, preventdisease.
Now, with that being said,Christian, I've seen thousands
and thousands of miracles, right, that I've never, ever seen any
drug ever do right.
It started with my mother,right, with, you know, her
Parkinson's and, like I said,the patch single-handedly did
more for my mom in the first 11days than years and years and

(52:34):
years of.
She takes one drug, levodopa,cardopa, cinnamon, and we were
trying to get don't know ifyou've been in the
pharmaceutical model the wordpharmaceutical comes from the
word pharmakia, which literallymeans witchcraft or sorcery.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
That is, if you had a like, you want to plant your
flag on the chemistry model.
Appreciate that.
That's where it comes from andthat's behind why she's like
interested in getting her momoff of witchcraft and sorcery.

Speaker 2 (53:10):
And I'm not saying that we don't might need it.
I always say, if I, you knowsomething, if I get ran over,
don't just put a patch on me.
Christian, like, I mean, youknow, like, take me to the
hospital.
I mean for crisis care.
Let's be honest, the USA, youwant to be here, you don't want
to be in another.
You know, david really is on amission to not only reverse

(53:32):
aging but disease cessation,right, like.
And so in this chronic diseaseworld that we live in, this is
the guy that is saying, hey,listen, I think we can do
something about it with light,you know, not with another pill,
not with another.
You know surgery, but actuallywith light.
Not with needles, right, butwith light.
And so for me, I feel like, ohmy gosh, this is so beautiful.

(53:53):
And like I look at my dad.
My dad was a one patch wonder,my mom.
It took 11 days for her toexperience the results on the
patch and continue to.
Now we're two years over, twoand a half, almost two and a
half years in, and my mom livesindependently.
I mean, like it's justremarkable, this is the woman
who couldn't eat, couldn't drink.
We took butter knives away fromher Christian.
I was crawling under bathroomstalls at restaurants to get my

(54:16):
mother out, like it was.
Like I mean, she couldn't brushher teeth.
She would, literally, I wouldstand behind her and help brush
her teeth.
She was 98 pounds.
She, you know, started at 169and wasted away to 98.
And this patch, I mean itbrought her back to life.
I mean she's 124.
I call her Rocky Balboa.
Like she's boxing, like I meanshe's like I said to her today,

(54:37):
I just left her house, literallyjust left her house, before I
came back over here I said mom,could you peel these five
potatoes, cause I want to helpyou put together a little
casserole.
And she goes yes, she's peelingpotatoes with a paring knife.
This is the woman I took butterknives away from, literally
because she was hurting herselfLike she would like not be
buttering the toast.
She'd be hitting the waterglass and breaking it into a

(54:58):
million pieces, and so I mean itwas crazy stuff and so okay.
So that was my mom, but my dadwas a one patch miracle.
And what I want to say is, withmy father, it wasn't that we
weren't trying to get him well,he had these oozing, goozing,
very uh, edemic looking legs.
No one could give us adiagnosis, although I didn't

(55:20):
really need a diagnosis, I justfelt like something was not
metabolizing correctly.
He was not getting through somedetox cycle of some sort, but
for six months, and I'm prettyrelentless.
I'm like you, christian, youcan tell we have a relentless
list of artists.
We're just going to stay inthere.
And so I had taken himeverywhere, from Mayo Clinic,
all the traditional that hisinsurance would cover, right,
university of Minnesota, to noavail.
The last dermatologist at Mayotold me he was going to have to

(55:40):
live with it, right?
Well, he's a Marine.
Semper fi to all the Marines inthe house.
You know this guy believes red,white and blue.
And so he's like, yeah, I'm not, probably not going to.
You know, just sit here and saythat you know, conform and say,
yeah, this is okay, cause youcan't sleep, he can't walk, he
was miserable.
And so, and we were tryingnutraceuticals again high octane
, really well-knownnutraceuticals If I said the
names you'd be like those aregreat companies, right things.

(56:05):
We were trying everything inour power.
I had taken him to nature passhomeopaths, I mean everything.
Well, that morning he wassitting there and when my mom
started walking across thekitchen with no walker, on the
11th day of wearing the patch,and not only was she walking,
she looked over at me when Iwalked in the house at 8 am and
she said hey, nita, do you wantme to make you some eggs?
This is a woman who hadn'tcooked in two and a half years.

(56:27):
Okay, this is a woman whohadn't cooked in two and a half
years.
Yeah, okay, we had.
We wouldn't let her operate thestove type deal.
Right now she's offering tomake me eggs, walking normally
through the kitchen with hercute black and white polka dot
pajamas, and I said, hey, uh,where's the walker?
Oh, where's the walker, mom?
She goes.
Oh, it must be in the bedroom.
I said, since when don't youneed the walker?

(56:51):
At 8am she goes.
Well, I didn't need it todayand I thought you've got to be
kidding me.
So that was the first miracleon 11 days in.
And then dad was sitting withthose oozing, oozing legs and I
said, hey, and I wasn't like you.
On the front end of this.
I had just been.
I had trusted a very, veryamazing friend out of Canada who
was a nurse and had left themedical industry because she
knew it was very, very brokenand was doing alternative

(57:16):
energetic type stuff.
And she said to me Renita, yougot to try this patch on your
mom.
She said I saw a downrightmiracle with my neighbor lady
with Parkinson's and I said,well, you had me at miracle,
doris, let's give it a shot.
So I didn't even know what wasin the patch.
I didn't know what, how it wasworking.
I didn't know the Avenue atwhich it was like creating these
results.
I just saw the results with mymom.
So my dad was there thatmorning and I said, hey, can we

(57:37):
put a patch on you?
Maybe it'll help these legsthat we've been dealing with for
over six months, these oozing,oozing legs.
I mean I've literally we'vespent thousands and hundreds of
hours on these legs.
My dad goes.
I thought it was for Parkinson'sand I said I have no idea what
it's for, but I can't evenbelieve what I'm seeing with mom
.
Maybe we should just try it onyou.
I said we're trying everythingelse.

(57:58):
And he goes you know what,let's do it.
So I threw it on my dad'sshoulder and the next morning we
came back and I literally fellto my knees and was crying and
praising Jesus when I opened thefront door and my husband
couldn't believe his eyes.
We stood there in awe,literally in awe.
It was like a miracle beforeour eyes.
And my dad very nonchalantlysaid looks like I'm going to

(58:20):
need some more of those stickers.
Looks like that sticker worked.
He called it a sticker and soI'm like you have got.
And then in that moment I'mlike what's in the patch, what's
in the sticker?
Like how did it do that for tworadically different ailments?
Like how did it do that for myaging parents?
The things that they weredealing with were not on the
same spectrum, right, and so Imean maybe we could say

(58:43):
mitochondrial dysfunction, right.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
But outside of that it was just like Well, they're
both things that the medicalworld told you don't get better,
like just get used to livingwith it.
And Parkinson's is incurable.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
Like, that's what they described it.
Yeah, exactly.
And so what happened?
Was that happened?
And so when I saw those twothings and I thought to myself
when I learned that this patchwas activating the GHK, copper
peptide and all the amazinghealing things, I mean, it

(59:13):
resets up to 4,000 of our genometo a younger, healthier state,
right, it's like a regenerativeswitch, right.
And so when I realized that, Iwas like, oh, that's why it
worked for both mom and dad.
But the crazy thing I thought ofis we are taking handfuls of
pharmaceuticals andnutraceuticals as a nation and
people are very like my dad.
How was his stomach lining at80, you know, chronically
constipated, chronic, you know.
You know low functioning kidney, right, you're.

(59:36):
You know your liver enzymes areslightly elevated, right.
So they've got four stomach,liver and kidney health.
Now we're giving people morepills, more chemistry, right,
for this biological responsethat we're hoping happens.
And I realized the beauty ofthis patch, christian.
The thing that gets me so firedup is hey, I love the world of
quantum physics, I love theworld of bioenergy.

(59:56):
Now, as a Christian woman, I'msaying that out loud.
Why?
Because that patch didn't haveto filter through my aging mom
and dad's stomach, liver orkidneys, which are probably not
in the greatest shape in theelderly of our country, right,
and so, because that patchdidn't have to filter through
those organ systems, it workedthat quickly.

(01:00:17):
Yeah, like it just went to workon it, like it was like
literally, like it was like anon switch on their bodies.
That just need, I mean, are youkidding, right?
So for me, I'm like everybodythat's tried the pharmacological
, they've tried thenutraceutical, and they're still
not any better.
And I'm telling youthatological, they've tried the
nutraceutical and they're stillnot any better.
And I'm telling you that, likeI said, pharmaceutical,
nutraceutical, I mean it kind ofhas the same tone.
I'm like, oh, you know, wemight need to flip, switch

(01:00:38):
completely and go to thisbioenergetic realm which is, I
think we're all the it's likethe Tesla realm.

Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
The secrets of the universe.
If you want to understand thesecrets of the universe, think
in terms of energy frequency andvibration, like it's on to
something there's.
There's something else herethat we can't see it, but it's.
It impacts us, and the more wecan look at that with an honest
eye.
And yes, bring your skepticism,but also don't be so closed
minded.
You won't learn anything likeit.
I my, for it was like I, thenumber of doctors I've heard

(01:01:05):
talk about how it helped themand then help their patients and
then people.
I know I'm like I would bestupid to just dismiss that I
have now I have to look into it,right, but I needed, like,
unlike you, I needed a bridge.
I, like you, I needed a bridgeof somebody I trusted to help me
get away into studying this, soI could honestly get behind it.
So, anyway, you're, and can I?

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
be quite honest with you.
Someone had sent me a sleeve ofX39 patches one year before I
got started with my dad and momand I remember receiving them,
looking at that, thinking ohmaybe this is new agey, Like I
literally had that thought as aChristian, and I think I threw
them in a garage tub.

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
You'll find them.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
I wasn't ready to receive it.
But only when I was face downwith mom and dad, like I always
say, maybe some people don'twant to try the patch because
they're not sick enough yet,maybe they haven't suffered
enough yet, they want to do somemore suffering I was ready to
step out of that spirit ofsuffering into the light, into
the healing.
Like I was like, okay, I've hadenough of this, there's got to
be something.
And I'm that person where Ijust continually will seek.

(01:02:08):
And so it was almost like myopenness to receive.
And you know, I had a lot offree time because I was off the
news right.
And so for me I'm like, oh,I've got all this free time,
like I need to look at this now.
And so I always think, too,that was kind of a setup with
the news thing from God, becausehad God not taken me off of
there, I'd probably still be onthere educating North Dakotans
because I loved it so much.

(01:02:29):
But here we are now with aglobal team.
I mean Scott and I, I think,have 90,000 people on our team
globally and I work withinternational markets.
And here's the great news aboutstem cells Everybody on the
planet needs them.
We've got 8 billion people onthe planet and everybody's stem
cells are not functioning wellbecause of aging and because of
inflammation.
Christian, and we've got areally, really simple solution

(01:02:49):
to activate this peptide withGHK, copper peptide with light,
non-invasive, incredibly easy,affordable.

Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
I mean hello, non-invasive, non-expensive, but
just for kicks.
Compare, because there's othermodalities, other options and
treatments in the stem cellworld.
So compare the cost of some ofthose things people might have.
Or give some people windowsinto like and where are the stem
cells you're being injectedwith coming from Like?
There's things that aren'tthere.
The informed consent isn't highon some of this.

(01:03:17):
So give people a little windowinto some of the other stem cell
options they have.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
Well, by no means was .
I was no expert on stem cells.
I know now I always say I.
I always say I hang out withreally smart people just like
you.
You're really smart and so youbecome the company you keep
right and so I'm thankful forall my smart friends.
But we had considered takingmom down to Tijuana for stem
cell injections.
I think it was called the StemCell Centers of America and I

(01:03:41):
had heard that for Parkinson'speople you can inject stem cells
and it might work.
I had also heard that they wereinjecting stem cells and people
were growing toenails in theirbrains with Parkinson's.
All right, Not people but rats,rats, over internationally.
They were doing a study withParkinson's and the rats would
die because they had toenailsgrowing in their brain.
Because it was like going tothe wrong place or something
crazy was happening with theseinjectables and so I got a

(01:04:03):
little leery.
So we were talking to the StemCell Centers of America and I
said you know what is the cost?
And they're like ten thousanddollars, but it only works in 50
percent of people.
Your mother might need to comeback for multiple visits.
You know my mom, I mean I.
You know we're conservativeGerman Russians up here, so you
know we're frugal.

(01:04:32):
No-transcript in the needle,right?
This is the question I've beenasking for over 20 years.
So what's in the needle?
And when they couldn't, youknow really blatantly tell me
exactly what the ingredientswere, I just was like you know
what this is?
I don't want it to be abortedbaby fetuses, because that's
against my fundamental Christianbelief system that I have Right

(01:04:53):
Like.
So for me there was this likemoral and ethical problem with
some things being injected.
You know, I will tell you this,I have many, many doctors on my
team over 400, and we actuallyhave stem cell injection clinics
.
Now that love using the patchas an adjunct therapy because,
of course, when you injectsomebody, yeah, they might have
a response and they might nothave a response.

(01:05:14):
But now they can actually sendthese patients on their way with
something that they can do forthemselves, instead of come to
this clinic for the high pricepoint.
And it's amazing the responsethat people are having when
they're leaving and going homeand putting these patches on.
So when I realized that thepatch was not like putting stem

(01:05:34):
cells into your body, it wasjust activating this innate
peptide that God put in ourbodies GHK just like God put,
you know, insulin in our bodiesand God put collagen in our
bodies, and God put all thesepeptides in our bodies.
And all the light frequencyfrom the X39 patch does is
activate that which reignitesall of these healing cells to
regenerate and heal the body andgo to the greatest area of need

(01:05:56):
, I thought, oh my gosh, this isgenius, like we're stimulating
healing with life.
I actually sometimes think tomyself, if we are in an 800
meter, my boys all run track andmy oldest son broke a lot of
records in the country in trackand field, and I think if we're
at an 800 meter race, we'reliterally 600 meters ahead of
the competition.

(01:06:16):
Nutraceuticals is 600 metersback, because we are stimulating
things energetically thatnutraceuticals cannot do.
And if they can do it, itdoesn't happen quickly, it
doesn't happen in a day, like mydad's legs.
It's like turning on somethingin the body that actually can be
activated with a needleinjection for high cost.
Always risk of an infection,right?

(01:06:38):
I mean, dr Josh Axe got a stemcell injection in his low back
and was paralyzed for a year,right?
So the bottom line is, withstem cell injections, first of
all, they're costly.
What's in the needle, right?
What are they injecting intoyou?
And then, thirdly, there'salways this risk of error and
infection, right.
So it could go awry and youcould have something crazy.
With the patches it's sobeautiful because it's only

(01:07:01):
activating what's already inyour body.
It's it's activating its ownhealing mechanisms.
God designed healing mechanismsto turn on these peptides in
these, these uh, you know waysof healing energetically the
positive and negativefrequencies of light right With
the body, and so the only thingentering the body with any of
the life wave patches is light.

(01:07:21):
So, like I said, david hascreated we have an X39 and an
X49, which is good for hearthealth and bone density.
But the crazy thing is is only10, 11 of these patches actually
are available in our backoffice.
So then it makes you wonder,like so there was X1, x2, x3, x4
, x5, x6, right X39, x40, x41,x42, x43, all the way up to X49.

(01:07:46):
So you get what I'm saying yeah, yeah, so there's all these
that's what they called them isX1, x2, x3.
So all of these were createdand there's only all the way up
to X49 and there's only 11 inthe back office.
So then you start saying, well,why is there only 11?
What happened to the rest?
David Schmidt is what happenedto the rest.
If he can't scientificallyhere's the science for all the
science wizards and minds in thehouse if he cannot validate and

(01:08:10):
scientifically prove not onlythe safety but the efficacy and
the validity of how thesepatches are going to work and
what they're going to do, hewill not launch into the
marketplace yeah, there's over80 clinical studies I think
right and then there's 90 90clinical studies and actually
he's got this phototherapy watertechnology coming out this
spring that already has threenew patents and two in in the

(01:08:32):
works and it's just going to beremarkable.
It's going to, it's going to belike a new species of water, so
it's going to kind of combinestructured water, hydrogenated
water, oxygenated water, superclean water and then he's going
to light infuse that with thatlobster Remember we talked about
the lobster.
How?
Back to the lobster, theendless lobsters.

(01:08:53):
And he literally has figuredout that frequency.
And let me tell you thislobsters and he literally has
figured out that frequency.
And let me tell you this it'sdivine, because when you really
realize how David came upon this, he was praying it, he was
praying to the Lord to give himsolutions and I believe I always
tell David you're divinelydownloaded.
And he actually was going to.
He had this number, thisfrequency of light that he

(01:09:14):
thought might work to reallyreverse aging, and he found
there was a scripture verse andhe literally said it jumped out
of scripture, out of the Bibleto him, where it was like,
literally, I think that this iswhat God is talking about.
And that morning he pluggedinto his Bible study and that

(01:09:35):
exact verse that he felt likethe Lord had given him was the
verse in the Bible study thatmorning, and so I always say,
yeah, be careful when you'reonto something, because then
you'll start seeing it, andhearing it Like God is like you
got it.
You got it.
And so because of that, he waslike okay, I really believe that
God is telling me to walk thisout and walk this direction, and
so that light frequency is nowwhat's, um, going to be in the

(01:09:59):
water?
Anyway, that's a whole notherballgame.
We got people literallydrinking the water and taking
off their eyeglasses and seeingperfectly.
So crazy, crazy yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:10:09):
I know a story here Somebody who's a family member
had a like cross-eyed or had awandering eye, and it just
righted itself in very shortorder.
And you're just, it's amazing,the patch has seen four people
cross-eyed straight.

Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
now we're making cross-eyed straight.
There we go.
So I don't know if that's amedical claim, but I don't know
because I don't know themechanism of how that's
happening.
Maybe I'm guessing it'ssomething nerve related, right,
but the bottom line is is hereit is.
I've got four people that Iknow personally that had cross
eyes and now they're straightbecause of the patch.
So I mean, there you go.

Speaker 1 (01:10:41):
Right, you're just.
You're telling a story and notmaking a claim.
This is just what happened.
So any give a few more storiesbefore we'll start to wrap up
here, but any other stories ofhealing.
And then I want to have youcomment on pets actually,
because some people are arepatching their pets and you
can't argue there's a placeboeffect going on there.

Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
So I've never listened to your podcast or
listened to a zoom meeting,right, like pets.
Don't have a placebo effecteither.
It sure doesn't.
But yeah, I mean literally, andI'll just say this because it
was kind of this.
This whole thing has been adivine appointment for me.
On July 3rd 2022.
Um, after I saw the miracle withmy mom and my dad, I hadn't
even used the patches yet myself.

(01:11:19):
Christian, imagine this.
People say I got to try itmyself first.
Well, I was the gal that didn'teven need to try it myself
because I thought, holy Moses,if it did this to my aging mom
and dad, I got a little bit of asleeping problem.
I wonder if it's going to helpwith that, right?
And so I'm thinking it's got to, because these guys my mom and
dad are like in rough, toughshape, abuse of the body for 50,

(01:11:40):
50 years, right, and so, um.
So I hadn't even really usedthe patches long yet, but it was
the third night of using thepatch and I had slept, finally,
until 5 30 AM.
I was kind of a watchman whereI was up at 2 AM every day, uh,
reading clinical studies andpraying, and then I was just
really praying for rest.
I was tired and I'm like you,I'm super energetic during the
day.

(01:12:00):
It's amazing I got through inthat little bit of sleep, but I
was really praying that thepatch would help that for me.
That was my kind of ailment ifI were to have one, because I
always say you don't need to besick to want to get healthy,
like you don't need to be likedecrepit and like falling apart
at the seams before you put apatch on right, like we should
want to maintain that level ofvitality and wellness and even
improve it.
Anyway, long story short, itwas I had slept through the

(01:12:21):
night the third night, it wasthe fourth night of wearing the
patch and I woke up and when Iwoke up, before I opened my eyes
, I heard a voice and it saidyou're entering an abundant
season of miracles.
I mean it was just like thatand I was laying there kind of
thinking okay.
I mean it was just like thatand I was laying there kind of
thinking okay, like I'm talkingto myself.
You know how you kind of havethat when you're kind of in that
dream state still, and I openedmy eyes and it was bright in

(01:12:43):
the bedroom here.
I had slept until 730.
And I mean, this was like I hadnot done that.
I just feel bad for anybodythat lacks sleep.
It's like a torture camp, youknow.
Anyway, uh, I was like layingthere thinking, oh my gosh, it's
bright light in my bedroom,it's not 2am, and I sat on the
edge of my bed and I heard itagain You're entering an

(01:13:05):
abundant season of miracles.
And I literally like, just like, was like oh yes, lord, yes,
lord.
I like I like, stood up to myfeet and I like I said out loud,
yes, Lord.
Like that, Like I was reportingfor duty or something.
And my husband goes Renita,what are you?
What are we saying yes to?

(01:13:26):
I said get up, we're enteringan abundant season of miracles.
And he's by.
Scott is like okay, like heflies out of bed.
You know, and I'm like, andliterally I can tell you, every
single day since we've been inlife wave, it has been an
honorable blessing from heavensent to earth for me and for
everybody who grabs ahold of it.
But it's like my.
I have an inbox full ofmiracles.
I mean the one that I was on ameeting last night with my
Canadian team and I have afriend up there and she had a

(01:13:47):
friend who had a huge lapoma onhis back.
I mean it was just like thisheaping lapoma and he's had it
for 14 years and he's beenwearing the patch.
Now I posted on my Facebookpage yesterday, I mean literally
for six short weeks, and thelapoma is nearly gone after 14
years.
And so again, like you can'tdeny this stuff, like you know
what I mean, and so we seepeople with COPD.

(01:14:09):
I've got about four people onmy team that have COPD that are
no longer carrying around theiroxygen tanks.
The tanks are gone, gone andthey don't need them anymore.
So it does a lot for lung stuff, anybody with acute lung
injuries.
It seems to just whicheverybody had like over the
course of the last five years.
I'm like, oh my gosh, run tothem with patches, brain fog
lifts.
I mean my son, bo.

(01:14:30):
He was one of the only two kidsthat did not get the shot on
the college track team and hereally caught hell for it.
And, long story short, I meanit was downright abusive how the
coaches and the teammatestreated him.
So it was a little bit ofanxiety that he came home with
from college, right.
And so Bo got on the patch andit was the eighth day and he

(01:14:51):
said mom.
He said that low grade headacheI've had for a couple of years
is gone.
He said I am just thinkingclearer.
He said that low-grade headacheI've had for a couple years is
gone.
He said I am just thinkingclearer.
He said I can't describe it,but I think there's something to
this patch.
And I said wow.
And then he went out andproceeded to run his fastest
track season of his collegecareer.
Every record, listen to this.
Every race he would get fasterthan the race before.

Speaker 1 (01:15:15):
I mean, it was like it was like it was like a
superhero yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:15:18):
And then they actually came in Christian and
they drug tested them on threeor maybe even four separate
occasions during the finalsemester.
When does a kid get drug testedmore than once?
Our son got drug tested threetimes because they thought he
was doping.
And I said, bo, did you tellhim I'm not doping, I'm patching
?
And he said, bo, did you tellhim I'm not doping, I'm patching
?
He said I did mom.
And so now Bo is like literallyspreading the message

(01:15:42):
everywhere.
He moved down to Scottsdale.
He's helping everybody on thepickleball courts.
He just talked to a woman inthe elevator where her daughter
fell off a horse and lost herhearing.
And when she was nine and Bowas like I think I've got
something that's going to helpyou in the elevator.
Right, you know, we've got our24 year olds patching people in
the elevator.
But the bottom line is is it'sliterally for everyone, you know
.
And yeah, we could talk animals, because animals don't have a

(01:16:06):
placebo effect, like either it'sworking or it doesn't work when
it comes to the animals.
And so we've got a ton ofveterinarians using the
technology.
We've got professional racehorses.
A ton of veterinarians usingthe technology.
We've got professionalracehorses.
We've got dogs, cats, peopleare patching their birds.

(01:16:26):
I can tell you a really quickstory about a very close friend
of mine.
My mom has a friend of herswho's got this little dog named
Coco and Coco and this is justreal recent and real close to me
, so I was like literallyvisually watching this miracle
happen before my eyes.
But this woman called me, who'sa friend with my mom, and she
says oh I, coco, has been at thevet for two weeks.
I'm just going to bring herhome to die because she's in

(01:16:48):
kidney failure and they've beenhooked up to IVs and she doesn't
eat and she doesn't drink.
So I'm just going to bring Cocohome to die so I can't see her
mom as often.
I said let's put a patch on thedog.
And she goes you and yourpatches, you and your patches.
I said what do you got to lose?
And she was kind of quiet for asecond.
She said you know you're right.
She said can you, can you helpme?

(01:17:08):
I said yes, and so again,that's the openness we want, the
openness and the readiness tochange right, christian, when
we're dealing with people, wewant them to say, hey, yeah,
let's give it a shot.
And so, let's give it a try.
And so she came to me and I putan Eon patch, which is one of
the patches that pulls the bodyfrom the sympathetic state,
which is the fight or flightcortisol driven state, back to

(01:17:29):
the parasympathetic state within15 to 30 minutes.
So I threw a little Eon patchon the top of the dog's head,
coco's head, and I put an X39,of course, on the base of the
neck, right under the collar,and my friend left.
And the next day she said thedog slept the whole day.
And she said I thought tomyself is Renita trying to kill
my dog?
And then she said no, renitaloves animals, renita's crazy

(01:17:52):
about dogs.
And then she actually had athought's quantum physics maybe
my dog is healing yeah yeah, shedidn't think that.
She switched the thought frommaybe renee is trying to kill
the dog to maybe my dog ishealing because it's sleeping a
lot today.
There's the quantum physics,right.
There's the thought thrown outin the the.
There's the god thought yeahokay.

(01:18:14):
And so she says, uh, maybe,maybe my dog is healing.
Well, that night, at the end ofthe day, the dog gets up, walks
over to the water dish, startsdrinking the water and eating
the food, and I get a phone callfrom her saying, oh my gosh,
coco is eating and drinking.
I said, praise the Lord, shegoes.
I'm just thinking like it's anormal thing, like it's going to

(01:18:34):
happen, right Cause live inthat so many times now you know
what expectancy is theatmosphere for miracles in my
world, right?
so I'm just expecting it's goingto work.
And uh, and so then I saidgreat.
I said why don't we talktomorrow?
We'll put a fresh patches on umcoco.
So I said take those off now,like let the body rejuvenate
overnight and I'll see youtomorrow.
So she brings the dog to mymom's place the next day.

(01:18:56):
I meet her there to put anotherX39 and Eon on.
And the dog comes running inthis time and there's a little
like you know, one of thoseexpensive rawhides that we buy
my mom's dog on the floor andshe's like her dog goes and
starts chewing on it.
And this woman says, oh my gosh, my dog's teeth have been loose
in her mouth for two years.
She has not been able to everchew on a rawhide, like barely

(01:19:19):
eat the crunchy food, right,because her teeth are so loose.
And she goes.
I can't believe what.
I'm watching that little dogchewed on that rawhide for about
a half an hour.
She's like I cannot believe myeyes.
She goes.
Well, listen, renita, I'm goingback to the vet tomorrow.
We're going to good idea, andso why don't you?

(01:19:42):
I said, why don't you get somenumbers to track all this stuff
that's going on Right, and soshe leaves and she kind of
laughs and I said it's workingand she goes.
Well, it might be.

Speaker 1 (01:19:46):
And there it is, that the energetic Observing the
right to maintain her skepticismyes.

Speaker 2 (01:19:48):
Yeah, yeah, but yeah, she's still there.
So the next day she calls me onthe way to the vet and she's
like what is the patches I haveon the dog?
Again I'm like, are you kidding, lifeway?
No, she goes X39.
And she said what's the otherone?
I said Eon, eon and X39.
And she goes okay, I got it, Igot it.
So she goes there.
She calls me after the vet andshe goes.
You're never going to believethis.
I said, oh, yeah, I am.
And she said I said to the vet,what do you think about these

(01:20:26):
patches?
And I pointed to the patch onCoco and the vet turned around
and pointed to the back of hisneck and he said this patch, the
one I'm wearing too.
So her vet was, her vet waswearing the patch number one and
then number two, all thenumbers the dog was like
officially on a kidney failure.
I mean the dog, christian, hadwore the patch.
At this point it was the thirdday.

(01:20:47):
The third day the dog is beingraised from the dead, right like
it's like the dog no longer has, um, any of those symptoms.
She said the liver enzymes wereslightly elevated but he thinks
those are going to come down.
But other than that, everythingelse was normal on the dog's
blood labs, which she said threedays ago the dog was like in
the death zone, brought home todie right, yeah, yeah, yeah,

(01:21:07):
yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:21:08):
So there you go, totally different mindset, wow
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:21:10):
And I could tell you a hundred more of pet stories.
But I mean, here's the thing Ifyou've got an aging pet or a
pet that just needs it, what doyou have to lose?
I mean, what else are you goingto do?
Like, I mean, put a patch onthe dog, for goodness sake.
Right, it's so easy, it's soeasy.

Speaker 1 (01:21:23):
Right, cool, all right.
Well, we got about five minutesleft because I have to let you
go here.

Speaker 2 (01:21:26):
But give people just a quick version of some
expectation of over how muchtime do they do this, and then
we'll just wrap up, yeah so whenyou get started with the patch
and, by the way, if you guyshaven't gone to Christian's
website yet, it's so great, it'slifewavecom forward slash
Healing United you should allget there, get yourself on these

(01:21:47):
patches right, because I woulddefinitely recommend, when you
go to lifewavecom forward slashHealing United, click on the
join button, because then you'regetting the wholesale pricing
and I just like everybody tosave a whole lot of money.
I always say organic eggs areexpensive right now, so we need
to save money wherever we can.
So when you go to your websitethere and you'll see shopping

(01:22:11):
with you, of course, christianElliott, so you know lifewavecom
forward slash Healing Unitedclick on the join button and
then you're getting thatwholesale pricing.
I would say do that Now thepatches.
Generally, you're wearing thepatches 12 hours on and 12 hours
off.
So when you put those patcheson like the X39, I would say
everybody listening shoulddefinitely get started with that
patch.

(01:22:32):
That is the patch that literallyhas created the miracles in my
life and the ones that Icontinue to see.
It's the patch that has thegreatest benefit for the most
amount of people, right, becausethere are other patches in
there, like there's Ice Wave foracute pain relief.
I mean, I've seen people getout of chronic pain after 40
years in 15 seconds with the IceWave.

(01:22:52):
In fact, I think that everybodythrow the Tylenol and ibuprofen
in the garbage and put ice wavepatches in your medical.
We don't want to call it themedical cabinet anymore the
medicine cabinet, let's call itthe health arsenal.
In that health arsenal, getsome light phototherapy patches
of the ice waves so that waywhen anyone has inflammation you
can put those patches on them.
But definitely in that cart youwant X39, because that's the

(01:23:14):
patch that literally is thedifference maker.
I mean, that's the patch thatliterally is the difference
maker.
I mean that's the one, like yousaid, is regenerating these
regenerative cells of the bodyto heal and restore the body and
the body parts.
And so, um, you wear the patch12 hours on.
I like to say, wear it duringthe day, because during the day
we're drinking more water.
And now we could do a wholesegment talking about hydration
and, of course, intracellularhydration, right, um,

(01:23:36):
extracellular hydration.
So we need the water to begetting in the cells.
So I'm a big advocate in apinch of a high quality salt,
right, and you can probably haverecommendations for that.

Speaker 1 (01:23:45):
That was my last episode.
Actually was about salt.

Speaker 2 (01:23:48):
Yeah, so a high quality salt, pinching that in
there before you drink the water, just so that we can get that
water.
I always say you know how?
You know you're intracellularhydrated versus not.
If you drink water and you justpee like a racehorse, you're
not.
It's not staying in the cellswhen you drink water.
It's supposed to go into thecells and do its work for the
cellular communication, and ifyou're just urinating it out,
you're still dehydrated.

(01:24:09):
So we need good intracellularhydration.
So a good pinch of sea salt orwhatever kind of salt you're
using, and then drink the water.
Increase your potassium.
I always feel like Americansare potassium deficient, which
is why so many people havehypertension, you know.
So increase your avocados.
Food first there's thebiochemical.

Speaker 1 (01:24:28):
Well, that's the health coach in this.
We can't not be holistic withthis.
Yeah, we can't be holistic.

Speaker 2 (01:24:32):
So yeah.
So the avocados, the coconutwater, you know those good, good
, rich sources of potassium.
You know the heart functions ona sodium potassium balance, so
that's super crucial as we beginto heal.
But then you just put a patchon.
So make sure you're wellhydrated and put a patch on
during the day, 12 hours on.
When you go to bed at night,pull that bad boy off, throw it
in the garbage, put a freshpatch on the next morning and

(01:24:54):
you just do that again and againand again and expect the
miracle and again.
Some people will see the miracle, like my mom on the 11th day.
Some people will see themiracle, like my son on the
eighth day.
You know, my dad was a onepatch miracle.
I wish everyone was a one patchmiracle.
Unfortunately, not everybody is, but we do get to see quite a
few of those one patch miracles.
We call it one patch wonderRight and patch wonder right.

(01:25:18):
And so yeah, and please shareif you're putting the patch on
and you're part of Christian'steam.
And I want to hear the miraclesbecause I say you know, the
world used fear as a currency,fear, shame and guilt as a
currency in the last six years.
We're using miracles as acurrency over here.
So get used to the joy that'sbeing happened.
You know it's happening in thisrealm because we're all about
miracles and joy and peopletaking back their power by
believing they can.
So that's where we're at in thelight frequency realm, so it's

(01:25:38):
good stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:25:39):
Very cool.
Well, renita, thank you so muchfor taking the time to talk to
us today.
Any final words ofencouragement from your 25 years
in the trenches, anything youwant to say to people before I
let you go?

Speaker 2 (01:25:50):
That you've got the power, baby.
You've got that.
We've had it all along and nowwe're just stepping into the
light to realize that we've gotit.
My advice to you is get lit up.
Get going on these patches andget lit up.
I mean we've all got to bringit back and and and and regain
that power that we innately have.
And once you have that powerand once you understand that you
know, I mean innately I alwayssay God gave it to us.

(01:26:12):
I mean this is divine.
We're just bringing it back tolight.
And once you have that, it'll beamazing how you're going to be
just a magnet for people aroundyou that are saying what's
different about you?
Why do you have more energy?
Why are you glowing?
People say why are you?
I'm like this is like a freefacelift.
You know what I mean, becauseit's like people are like saying
you look 20 years younger.
I'm like, yeah, it's amazingwhat happens when we bring light

(01:26:33):
into the mix, right?
So yeah, all right.
I just want to tell yourwebsite one more time
lifewavecom forward slashhealing united Hit the join
button and join the LifeWavechampions.

Speaker 1 (01:26:43):
Right on.
All right, everybody.
Well, thank you for joining ustoday and we will talk to you
again soon.
Thanks, god bless.
So there you have it.
If you're interested in thescience, the patents or hearing
other doctors talk about theresults they're getting with the
patches, I'll have links foryou in the show notes.
And, as you heard Renita say,if you're interested in trying
the LifeWave patches foryourself, loved ones or even

(01:27:03):
your beloved pet, you can getthe patches at LifeWavecom.
At slash Healing United, as shementioned, you'll get the best
price if you click the Joinbutton rather than the Shop
button, and I'd recommend theCore option, as that will give
you about three months worth ofX39 to try out.
And the other thing I'd sayabout the join button is it will
also allow you to reserve theoption to earn a commission if

(01:27:24):
you ever decide to tell peopleabout the patches.
So, understandably, a lot ofpeople have an allergy to
network marketing, and if that'syou, that's totally fine.
You don't have to engage in thebusiness side of it to
experience the benefits of thistechnology.
But on the flip side, if youcould use some extra income
sharing one of the simplestthings you could possibly share,
and if you like the idea ofworking with people like myself

(01:27:45):
and my wife and Renita and DrGessling, then join us At
Healing United.
We are loving turning healthcareon its head and healing people
rather than treating them, andI'd encourage you first just try
out the patches.
Patches, and there's a strongchance you will be compelled to
share them as you experience thebenefits, and it's just
beautiful to be able to get paidto share something you believe

(01:28:06):
in.
One last thing I'll say is thatwe are incorporating these
patches as an option in ourdetox programs now and we are
proud to be supplementminimalists and these patches
allow us to get even greaterresults for people without a
suitcase full of supplements.
So if you are ready to go on atruly transformative healing
journey that is doctorsupervised, coach led and

(01:28:27):
community supported, where youdon't have to go through this by
yourself, then check out ourholistic detox programs at
Healing United dot today.
I promise you have not seenanything like what we do.
And teaser, while I'm on thetopic of detox, if you thought
this episode was fascinating,wait until you hear my next
episode about the overlookedproblem of parasites, the

(01:28:49):
symptoms they may be causing andwhat you can do about it.
Stay tuned, friends, and I'llkeep stretching your thinking
and mine to bring you the bestof what I can find to help you
live a vibrant and flourishinglife.
Stay curious and humble, andI'll see you in the next episode
.

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