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OK, strap yourselves in because today we are doing a massive
deep dive. Forget the day-to-day news for a
bit, we're heading straight intothe heart of global football
strategy. Imagine just soaking it all up.
You know, all the knowledge, thewisdom, the sheer strategic
thinking from the very top mindsshaping the future of the game.
It really is something else. We're looking at this huge kind
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of dual transformation happeningright now.
On one hand, you've got this massive, almost philosophical
blueprint from FIFA designed to fundamentally change who gets to
play football at the highest level globally.
Right. Democratizing elite talent,
basically. Exactly.
And then on the other hand, you have the real world stuff, the
the concrete efforts, the sometimes gritty battles by
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national associations on the ground.
Think places like Uganda or evenAustralia.
They're trying to build the actual infrastructure, implement
the governance needed to meet these, well, these world class
standards. It's where the rubber meets the
road. And the architect behind so much
of this global vision, the name you keep hearing, is Arsen
Winger, of course, the legendarymanager, now FIFA's chief of
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global football development. That's right.
And his core initiative, the engine driving this change, is
the FIFA Talent Development Scheme.
You'll hear it called the TDs. So that's our focus today.
We're analyzing how this huge strategy backed by some serious
financial clout actually translates into projects on the
ground. We'll look at everything from,
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say the new national setup in Uganda, their successes to the
frankly eye watering multibillion dollar policy
demands coming out of Australia.Yeah.
And our mission here really is to make sure you walk away
understanding the scale of this,the huge financial commitments
involved, also the shifts in coaching philosophy needed, you
know, to actually produce these top tier players everywhere.
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And of course, the massive organizational hurdles in making
football truly global, truly competitive, and, importantly,
inclusive. Let's unpack this plan then,
because if Wenger gets his way, the global football hierarchy
could look very, very different in the coming years.
OK, let's start at the top, the big picture.
What was the central problem Wenger identified when he
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stepped into this FIFA role? It wasn't just about tweaking
things, was it? No, not at all.
He wasn't just looking at a gap between, say, Europe and South
America. It was much more fundamental.
He saw a massive systemic failure across the globe in
providing basic opportunity. A failure of opportunity.
Absolutely. It wasn't just about making good
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teams a bit better, it was abouttackling this deep seated
structural inequality in the game.
So what's the official strategicobjective then?
How does FIFA frame this? Well, the language is clear and
incredibly ambitious. It's about reducing global
disparity. Specifically, FIFA has this long
term goal, they've actually labeled it Goal 5, and the aim
is to increase competitiveness so dramatically that you have at
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least 50 clubs and 50 national teams, that's men's and women's
combined from all cotton's regularly competing at the very
highest level. 50 clubs and 50 nations regularly competing at
the top. That's that's a revolution
compared to now. You're talking about doubling,
maybe tripling the number of genuine contenders.
Exactly. It's a radical reshaping of the
global power structure. And his core finding the one
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that really kicked this off was pretty shocking.
Wasn't it about access? It was startling.
His analysis found that in most of the world, in the
conservative estimate they used was around 70% of FIFA's member
associations. Kids simply had no structured
way to play, let alone develop within a quality system. 70%
just no pathway. Pretty much no organized
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coaching, no regular competitions, no talent ID
pipelines. And he contrasted this sharply
with the top 20 ranked countriesin the FIFA rankings.
He argued they weren't there by chance.
They were the nations with the best educational values.
Educational values. That's a key term for him, isn't
it? What does that encompass?
It's crucial. It means having sophisticated
talent identification systems, actually finding the promising
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kids early, It means high quality coach education
programs, training the trainer'sproperly, and it means
structured competitive leagues and tournaments at all youth
levels. It's the whole system.
So the TDs, the talent development scheme, it's
fundamentally about building that educational infrastructure
everywhere. That's the heart of it.
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The philosophy driving it is really simple, almost pure.
Give every talent a chance in the world, full stop.
It's about trying to decouple a kids potential from their
parents bank balance or their post code.
The TDs aims to establish academies globally that
replicate the best practices yousee and say, top European clubs.
Making that high level technicalcoaching and long term
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development thinking accessible no matter where you are born.
Precisely accessible, consistentand high quality.
Now this ties into something else Wenger has been quite vocal
about a critique of the modern game that probably resonates
with a lot of fans, he said. And I'm quoting here, the
freedom of the players has been reduced.
Yes, this is where the coaching revolution aspect comes in.
It's a really profound point he's making.
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Wenger believes that in the drive for tactical discipline,
for structure, for minimizing risk, the coaches have maybe
become too prescriptive, too focused on fixed patterns and
predictable outcomes. Like players becoming robots
executing a plan. Sort of, yeah.
When you enforce too many norms,too many rigid tactical
instructions, you inadvertently or maybe sometimes deliberately
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kill creativity. You kill spontaneity.
You end up teaching players primarily to follow orders, not
necessarily to think for themselves or innovate under
pressure. OK, so how does that actually
manifest on the pitch? Are we talking like a whimmer
being told exactly went across instead of reading the
situation? And how do you even train
coaches to spot, as he puts it, things we don't expect to see?
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Well, it's the difference between a player who executes
the coach's plan perfectly, Maybe it's a 7 out of 10 every
week, and the player who in a key moment does something
totally unexpected, may be risky, but brilliant.
That wins the game. Over.
Coaching, Wanger argues, tends to produce reliable but
predictable players. They might thrive when the game
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follows the script, but when chaos erupts, when the plan
breaks down, they struggle. Because they haven't been
encouraged to solve problems independently.
Exactly. So the new mandate for coaches
within the TDs framework is to be educators of creativity, of
unpredictability. Their job isn't just drills and
tactics. It's identifying and nurturing
those unique player personalities, finding the kid
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who sees the impossible pass andencouraging them to try it.
Maybe we're finding the technique but not crushing the
instinct or the defender who hasthe vision to launch a quick,
unexpected counter instead of just playing it safe.
So it's about teaching principles but leaving room for
genius. That's a good way to put it.
Teach the fundamentals, the tactical understanding, but
allow space for individual brilliance to breathe, to make
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mistakes and ultimately to flourish.
If you want those 50 competitiveteams globally, Van Gogh argues,
you need genuine world class thinkers on the pitch, not just
technically gifted athletes who follow instructions.
And nurturing that kind of creative talent requires strong
professional clubs in every region, right?
Which I suppose brings us to theFIFA Club World Cup 2025 and its
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expansion. That's not just a tournament
anymore, is it? It's a development tool.
That's precisely how FIFA, and Wenger specifically, are
positioning it. The expanded 32 team event
coming up in the US in June and July 2025 serves a really
crucial development function. Wenger's logic is
straightforward. Clubs are the primary engines of
player development. They provide the daily training,
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the coaching, the competitive environment makes sense.
But if the absolute pinnacle of club football, both in terms of
competition and financial reward, is almost exclusively
concentrated in Europe, what happens?
Every top young talent outside Europe just aims to get there as
quickly as possible. Exactly.
They often leave their home leagues too early, maybe before
they're fully ready physically or mentally.
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And that talent drain, weakens the local leagues, reduces their
competitiveness, makes them lessattractive for fans and
sponsors. It's a cycle.
So the expanded Club World Cup is designed to break that cycle.
That's the idea. By significantly strengthening
top clubs outside of Europe, giving them guaranteed access to
this elite global showcase, massive international exposure
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and crucially, substantial financial incentives, you make
their domestic leagues a more viable, more attractive long
term career path. You give clubs in, say, South
America, Africa, Asia a bigger reason to invest heavily in
their own youth development, their own stadiums, their own
coaching, because the potential payoff competing on that world
stage is now much, much bigger. Precisely.
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It helps keep talent local for longer, strengthening the entire
football pyramid in those regions.
And the financial incentive is, well, it's huge.
The figure being quoted is a total prize money pot of USD 1
billion. Yeah, billion dollars.
It's a staggering amount. But you know, the criticism you
often hear with these big FIFA tournaments is that the money
just ends up concentrating wealth among the already rich
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clubs. How does this billion dollar pot
actually support global development?
Does it filter down? That's a fair question, and it's
something FIFA seems to have considered in the structure.
A significant chunk of that $1 billion is specifically
designated for solidarity payments.
These aren't just performance bonuses for the 32 participating
clubs. They're designed to be
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distributed more broadly, benefiting clubs worldwide, even
those not directly involved in the tournament.
OK, so it's a mechanism to spread the wealth generated at
the very top? Yes, it's intended to ensure
that the financial success of this elite global competition
flows back down, reinvesting into the development pipeline
across all confederations. It reinforces this idea of a
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shared ecosystem where success at the top helps fuel growth at
the grassroots. And really, this kind of money
provides the well the jet fuel needed to sustain and expand the
talent development scheme globally.
Right. Speaking of that jet fuel, let's
dive into the operational side of the talent development scheme
itself. FIFA put USD 200 million on the
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table back in December 2022 justto get this thing rolling.
How on earth do you manage the logistics of rolling out
tailored development plans across what nearly every country
in the world? The scale is just immense.
You have to remember the TDs isn't A1 science fits all
program. It's already active in over 180
of Fisa's 211 member associations.
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Over 180 MAS. Wow.
And within those MAS, they've already implemented more than
600 tailor made projects. Think about that 600 the scope
development plans. Each one has to be designed
considering the unique cultural context, the existing or non
existing infrastructure, the specific challenges, the
governance capacity of that particular nation from tiny
island states to huge continental powerhouses.
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The complexity must be mind boggling coordinating all that.
It requires an incredibly sophisticated central team at
FIFA, but also relies heavily onregional experts and close
collaboration with the M as themselves.
They need deep understanding of local conditions to make sure
the projects are actually effective.
And the most visible part of this, the physical manifestation
are the FIFA talent academies. You mentioned the target
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earlier. How many are up and running now?
Right now there are 33 FIFA Talent Academies officially
established and operating. 33 already, yes.
But the ambition, as you said, is staggering.
The target they've set is to reach 75 of these elite
academies globally by the end of2027. 75 in just a few years.
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That implies Wenger really believes this momentum is, as he
apparently put it, unstoppable. He certainly seems confident
that rate of growth is incredibly fast for establishing
high level institutions like these.
But what exactly is a FIFA talent Academy?
It's clearly more than just a place with nice pitches and good
coaches, right? The phrase they use is creating
well-rounded individuals. Absolutely.
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Critical point. It's about holistic development.
Yes, they provide the absolute highest level of football
training, tactics, sport science, the works.
But that's only part of the equation.
Equally crucial and actually mandated by FIFA for these
academies, is a strong focus on formal education and broader
personal development. They're designed to instill
values like discipline, teamwork, leadership,
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resilience, all through the lensof football, but applicable to
life beyond it. So preparing them for life, not
just for a potential pro career.That's the goal because the
reality is not every talented kid will make it.
As a professional footballer, the academies have a duty of
care beyond just producing players.
And you mentioned mandated, the source material highlighted 2
requirements that are absolutelynon negotiable for an MA to get
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FIFA support for an Academy. Yes, and they are fundamental.
Every single FIFA talent Academymust prioritize safeguarding and
education. Safeguarding and education core
pillars. In negotiable, safeguarding
means robust policies and procedures to protect young
players from any form of abuse, harassment or exploitation.
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It has to be a safe environment physically and emotionally.
And education means ensuring allAcademy players continue their
formal schooling get proper academic qualifications.
So they have options, a pathway,even if the football dream
doesn't work out. Precisely.
It protects the players futures.This ethical and educational
foundation is absolutely centralto the entire TDs philosophy.
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It's about responsible development.
OK, let's look at some real world examples.
These early case studies show how the TDs adapts right
Bahrain, for instance, they wereflagged as an early pioneer,
holding a milestone event back in January 2025.
Right, Bahrain is a good exampleof that bespoke approach.
Their specific development plan,supported by the TDs, wasn't
just about generic training. It was carefully tailored to
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build a sustainable local football ecosystem.
The focus was on retaining and nurturing talent within Bahrain
in the Gulf region, rather than just, say, importing a European
coaching model wholesale or losing all their best prospects
abroad early. Interesting.
Then you've got a very differentcontext.
Egypt, a giant of African football, huge population,
incredible passion. They launched their Academy in
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Cairo in February 2025. Egypt is what FIFA described as
fertile environment. You've got immense natural
passion for the game, a massive youth population, and, as they
noted, huge technical qualities inherently present.
But despite being record seven time AFCON winners, their youth
development has been historically inconsistent,
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hasn't it? Exactly.
Sporadic success rather than a consistent production line.
So the FIFA project there, the TDs Academy, aims to bring
stability and structure to that youth development process.
The goal is to provide that longterm, high quality pathway to
help Egypt fully harness its enormous raw potential and turn
that into consistent excellence at all levels.
And it's important to stress this isn't just a program for
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developing nations, is it? The scheme is truly global.
Wales Open the first FIFA talentAcademy in Europe.
Correct. The Academy at Dragon Park in
Newport shows the TDs is also about maximizing potential
everywhere even and establish football incontinence for Wales.
It provides a clear high level pathway for both boys and girls.
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It helps them identify, nurture and hopefully retain more top
local talent, building on the fantastic momentum their
national teams have generated recently.
It's an investment in sustainable domestic player
production for them. And one more example that
highlights how different FIFA programs work together.
Kazakhstan. Their milestone event was in
September 2025 at the Talger National Training Center.
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Yes. And the key point about Talger
is that it directly benefited from another major FIFA
initiative, the FIFA Ford program.
So Ford provides the basic infrastructure funding.
Generally, yes. FIFA Forward is often about
funding essential facilities like pitches, training centers,
administrative buildings. In Talger's case, the Forward
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program helped build 3 of the pitches that the new TDs Academy
now uses. It shows how these programs are
designed to complement each other.
You need the foundational infrastructure which Forward
often supports, and then you layer on the elite development
structures like the TDs academies.
It's a multi stage investment. OK, so that covers the elite
academies, but Wenger's vision also includes something much
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more grassroots, right? The FIFA Arena project.
Yes, this tackles that fundamental issue of access we
talked about earlier, but at themost basic level, just having a
safe place to play. The goal of the FIFA Arena
project is straightforward but ambitious.
Create at least 1000 safe, accessible mini pitches
worldwide. These are often small artificial
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turf pitches, sometimes caged. 1000 mini pitches?
Where are they targeting these? They're prioritizing densely
populated urban areas where opengreen space is scarce, and also
less privileged rural areas where kids might literally have
nowhere safe to kick a ball. And we saw a couple of quick
examples of where these have landed.
Malta was mentioned. Yeah, Malta became the youngest
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country to open one of these FIFA Arena mini pitches.
It nicely coincided with their MFA's 125th anniversary and the
opening of their new National Football Center.
And Azerbaijan? In Azerbaijan, they completed 2
pitches as part of this project and the direct beneficiaries
were cited as over 6000 studentsat 2 local schools.
So the arena project isn't just about finding the next
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superstar, it's about community health, social inclusion, giving
kids a protected space to play, exercise, learn teamwork, basic
life skills. It directly delivers on that
core. TDs promise opportunity and a
safe environment for everyone. OK, so that's the global vision
and the tools FIFA is deploying.Now let's zoom in on how this
actually plays out at the national level.
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We're going to look at a really impressive case study the
Federation of Uganda Football Associations, FUFA, especially
as they celebrate their centenary.
This seems like a real master class in using good governance
to drive progress. It really is a remarkable story,
especially because they're achieving success on multiple
fronts simultaneously. On the pitch, you've got the
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senior men's team, the Uganda Cranes, qualifying for AFCON
2025. Huge achievement and their U-17
boys team made history qualifying for their World Cup.
That's a massive indicator of youth development working.
And off the pitch, they're gearing up for major hosting
duties too, aren't they? Yes, that's crucial context.
They're preparing right now to host the African Nations
Championship, the Chan tournament in August and looking
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further ahead they're Co hostingthe main Africa Cup of Nations
Pamoja AFCON in 2027. Let's pause on Shenko for a
second. Hosting the African Nations
Championship. Why is that such a significant
test? Maybe even more so in some ways
than hosting AFCON for a federation like FFA.
That's a great question. The Chan tournament is unique,
as you know, because it's specifically for players who
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play in their own country's domestic league.
So hosting Chan forces the MAFUFA in this case, to prove
not just their logistical capacity, hotels, transport,
stadium security for a major continental event, but it also
puts their domestic football structures under the spotlight
because the players on show are products of their own league
system. Exactly.
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It validates or exposes the quality of their local leagues,
their clubs, their homegrown talent pathways.
Successfully hosting Chan is a huge statement that your
domestic game is healthy and functional, which is precisely
what Wingers TDs Vision aims to foster globally.
Right? And underpinning all this
progress in Uganda seems to be areal focus on governance.
Guided by this, the hat trick manifesto from the FUFA
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president Honorable Magogo MosesHassim.
There was 1 statistic about their legal situation that just
jumped out. It's genuinely astounding,
especially in the often turbulent world of football
administration. For the first time in a decade,
FUFA achieved a 100% drop in newlegal cases being filed against
the federation. 0 new cases. 100% drop.
How did they manage that? According to Fufa, it's the
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direct result of rigorous, meticulous compliance with
Uganda's national laws, combinedwith proactive guidance from
their internal legal office. They've basically
professionalized their administration to the point
where legal challenges, which can be a massive drain on
resources and focus for many MAS, have been effectively
eliminated for that period. That kind of stability must be
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the foundation for everything else.
It builds credibility. Absolutely, credibility
domestically, but crucially, credibility internationally.
When organizations like SEFA or CAF see that level of
administrative stability and legal compliance, it makes them
much more confident about investing funds like those from
the FIFA Forward program. And that stability frees them up
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to focus on protecting the integrity of the game itself.
They're actively working with the Ugandan police on match
manipulation. Yes, they're taking integrity
very seriously. It's not just talk.
Their internal judicial bodies are clearly active and
empowered. This was demonstrated when their
adjudicatory chamber banned 12 individuals in November 2024 on
integrity related charges. 12 people banned.
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Including one lifetime ban, which sends a very strong
message. Taking this kind of decisive
public action against Match Fix and corruption shows the global
football community, potential sponsors and crucially the fans
that they are committed to cleansport.
That's vital for long term trustand investment.
And that hard earned credibilitythat stability directly
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translates into infrastructure development, doesn't it?
The flagship example is the FUVAStadium Kadiba, funded largely
by the FIFA Forward program. Kadiba is a perfect example of
strategic infrastructure investment.
It's not just another stadium, it's being developed with
specific high level purposes in mind.
It's designated as a key training ground for the upcoming
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Chan 2024 and also for that joint PAMOCHA AFCON in 2027.
So it's built into their long term hosting strategy.
What did the recent development phase involve?
Phase two was quite comprehensive.
They constructed The Maine Pavilions Foundation, installed
floodlights meeting CDF standards essential for hosting
international matches and allowing evening training, put
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in modern offices, and importantly, laid a natural
grasp playing turf to meet specifications.
And there's a really interestingdetail about protecting the
investment at Kadiva looking ahead.
Yes, this shows smart long term planning.
They use $460,600 specifically from FIFA forward funds, not
just to build but to acquire additional adjacent land,
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bringing the total site area to 6.4 acres.
Why was securing extra land so important?
To prevent future encroachment in rapidly developing urban or
semi urban areas, land is valuable.
Ensuring they had control over the surrounding space protects
the stadium from being hemmed inby other developments later on,
it states. Guards the potential for future
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expansion and maintains the integrity of the facility.
It's a very practical, forward thinking use of development
funds. And the stadium is now
operational with big plans for the future.
Yes, it officially opened to thepublic in May 2025 and the
vision for Phase 3 is ambitious.They aim to eventually increase
the seating capacity to 20,000, making it a significant national
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venue. Beyond the physical
infrastructure, FUFA is also being quite clever with branding
and marketing, using it to buildnational pride around their
competitions. This is really smart cultural
integration. Take their new trophies.
The main one for the FUI Uganda Premier League is named
Margarita. After Margarita Peak, Uganda's
highest mountain. Exactly 16,763 feet.
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It's a powerful symbol of aspiration, of reaching the
pinnacle of Uganda in football. Even the trophy for the second
division, the FUFA Big League, has a distinct national
identity. It's 455mm tall and its design
is inspired by the Buffalo, another strong Ugandan symbol.
It gives the competition's more meaning, more soul.
Speaking of soul, they did something quite impactful for
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the women's league visibility to.
The FUFA Women's Super League FWSL Trophy Tour was brilliant.
The theme was a trophy with a soul, but crucially, they didn't
just parade it around clubs. They strategically engaged very
powerful female role models in the country, including Uganda's
first lady and the Speaker of Parliament.
Why is that level of engagement so significant?
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It's high level social and political endorsement.
When figures like the First Ladyare seen holding the FWSL
trophy, it sends a powerful message across society.
Women's football matters. It's valued.
It's supported at the very highest levels.
It helps normalize and elevate the women's game in the public
consciousness, which is criticalfor growth, attracting sponsors
and inspiring young girls. And operationally, they're
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pushing for professionalism through digital systems, the
FUFAE ticketing system and something called CLOP.
Yes, modernizing operations is key.
E Ticketing streamlines access for fans and improves financial
transparency. The CLOP system that's the Club
Licensing online platform is arguably even more important for
structural development. OK, what exactly is CLOP and why
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is implementing it's such a big deal for FUFA?
CLOP is essentially a digital tool used by FIFA and the
confederations like CAF to manage, monitor and enforce club
licensing regulations. These regulations are a set of
minimum standards that clubs have to meet to participate in
top competitions. They cover everything from
having adequate stadium facilities and safety procedures
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to running proper youth development programs, proving
financial solvency and having qualified staff.
Cause CLOP is the tool that actually forces clubs to meet
those standards. Precisely by making the
application and monitoring process digital and transparent
via CLOPFUFA can ensure clubs are genuinely complying.
It helps them enforce crucial rules like the example given
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that every head coach in the Uganda Premier League UPL must
now hold a CAA license. Right, the CAFA license.
Why is mandating that specific license such a significant step
up for the quality of coaching in the UPL?
What does it guarantee? The CFA license is the highest
coaching qualification awarded by the Confederation of African
Football. It requires extensive training,
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practical assessments and a deepunderstanding of modern coaching
methodologies, tactics, sports science and player management.
By mandating it for UPL head coaches, FUFA is essentially
enforcing a minimum standard of elite, internationally
recognized coaching competence. It stops clubs from appointing
unqualified or under qualified coaches just because they're
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cheap or convenient. It ensures that the players in
Uganda's top league are being guided by professionals trained
to world class standards, which directly feeds into player
development and the overall quality of the league, Exactly
what Wanger's TDs is pushing forglobally.
OK, that makes sense. And finally, at the very base of
the pyramid, FUFAS grassroots reach looks substantial, tying
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into FIFA's own programs. Yes, they're actively
implementing the FIFA Football for Schools F4S program.
The numbers they reported are significant, 39,122 footballs
distributed across 2568 schools.That's putting equipment
directly into the hands of kids across the country. 39,000
footballs. That's a lot of footballs.
It is and the impact of participating in continental
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schools competitions was also highlighted to Ugandan schools.
Amos College School and Royal Giant High School performed so
well in the CF African Schools Championship that they were
awarded brand new Isuzu buses bythe Mud SEPI Foundation.
Buses as prizes? Yes.
Think about how transformative that is for a school team in
Uganda. A bus isn't just a trophy, it's
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a high value, practical asset. It solves fundamental logistical
problems for traveling to matches for educational trips.
It's a tangible reward, showing that success at the grassroots
level fostered by these programsbrings real, lasting benefits to
the institutions and communitiesinvolved.
OK, so FUFA in Uganda provides this compelling model of using
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governance and targeted FIFA funding to build stability and
Dr. success. Now let's shift continents and
look at Australia, a very different context.
A developed economy, huge landmass, but facing its own
massive challenge. Almost the opposite problem in
some ways. Exactly.
Australia isn't struggling for participation, they're
struggling guess of participation.
Their challenge is managing explosive growth that's
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completely overwhelming their existing infrastructure.
And they've laid this out in a major policy document aimed at
the government right securing our football future.
Yes, it's essentially A detailed, meticulously costed
plea for systemic government investment.
The numbers are pretty staggering.
They've seen 11% growth in participation in just 12 months.
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11% in one year. Yeah, pushing the total number
of participants to 1.91 million people playing across 3302
active clubs, the community facilities, the local pitches,
the changing rooms. They just weren't built for this
level of demand and they're crumbling under the pressure.
And the specific deficits they identified are surprisingly
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basic things you might take so granted.
They really are. The core issues highlighted are
inadequate change rooms, insufficient lighting to allow
evening play and poor drainage leading to waterlogged, unusable
pitches for large parts of the year.
Basic, fundamental stuff. How many facilities are we
talking about and what's the price tag?
They've identified 2103 venues across the country that need
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upgrading, covering over 5100 pitches.
The total estimated cost to fix these deficits and bring
community facilities up to a decent standard over the next
decade is $2.8 billion. $2.8 billion just for community
facilities. It's a huge number but they make
the crucial point that this isn't just an investment in
football. Approximately 2/3 of these
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facilities are shared with othersports like cricket, Aussie
Rules, rugby league, so upgrading them benefits entire
communities, not just football participants.
That's a smart political angle. And the way they've broken down
that $2.8 billion cost, assigning responsibility to
different levels of government, that seems very strategic, too.
It's quite brilliant actually. It's a systematic Co funding
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proposal designed to align with existing government
responsibilities and national priorities.
OK, walk us through that breakdown.
Who are they asking for what? Right.
They're targeting the federal government, the national
government, for the biggest chunk, the $1.56 billion needed
to fix the change room gap. Why target the Fed specifically
for change rooms? Because the major push within
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that is for multi gender change rooms, providing appropriate,
safe and private facilities for female participants is
absolutely critical for attracting and importantly,
retaining girls and women in thesport.
This directly taps into nationalgovernment policies around
promoting gender equality, inclusion in sport and female
participation. It frames it as a national
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equity issue, not just a sports facilities issue.
Very clever. OK, so feds for change rooms.
What about the States and territories?
The state and territory governments are being asked to
fund the $851 million lighting gap.
The goal here is to upgrade fields to a standard of 100 lux
LED lighting. Why is lighting so crucial?
Because it dramatically increases the available hours
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for training and matches, especially during winter or
after school work. With participation booming, they
simply need more usable time on the existing pitches.
Lighting is the most effective way to unlock that extra
capacity without building entirely new fields.
Makes sense. And the final piece?
That leaves the $391 million drainage gap, which they're
asking local governments councils to address over five
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years. This fits as pitch maintenance
in dealing with local ground issues is traditionally more of
a local council responsibility, so it's an elegant structure.
Federal for gender equity infrastructure, state territory
for capacity boosting infrastructure, and local for
ground level maintenance infrastructure.
Everyone has a clear role. It spreads the burden but also
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makes it harder for any one level of government to say, not
our problem. Exactly.
It presents a unified logical plan.
Now, beyond the community level,fixing the pitches and lights,
Australia is also focused on strengthening the actual player
pathway. The launch of the new Australian
Championship, the national second tier, seems vital here.
Absolutely vital. This new league is set to launch
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in October 2025. It'll be a 16 team national
competition and they've already named 8 foundation clubs
historic names like Marconi, Stallions FC, South Melbourne
FC. Why is a national second
division so important for Australian football development?
Because for years there's there's been a huge gap between
the state based semi professional leagues, the MPLS
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and the fully professional A leagues, men's and women's.
The national second tier NST creates that crucial middle
step. It provides a highly competitive
national platform for talented players who might not be quite
ready for the A league or for A league players needing game
time. It's the bridge, it's the
proving ground where young starslike Nestori Iramkunda, who
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recently moved to Bayern Munich,can be properly developed and
showcased before potentially moving overseas or up to the A
league. So it strengthens the whole
pyramid and they need funding toget it off the ground.
Yes, they're requesting $1 million in seed funding from the
government to help ensure the successful launch and initial
operation of the NST. Relatively small money in the
grand scheme, but critical to establishing that vital link.
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And then there's the very top end, the elite infrastructure
needed for national teams and the professional clubs
themselves. Right.
The policy calls for significantgovernment investment here, too.
They want funding for a dedicated National Football
headquarters requesting $50 million for that, and also
support for establishing a network of perhaps four or five
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National Institutes of football across the country serving as
high performance hubs. And specific club needs are
mentioned too. Yes, they highlight the need for
funding support for projects like MacArthur Bull Center of
Excellence and Melbourne City's dedicated women's stadium
project at KC Fields. It underlines the fact that even
in established professional leagues, developing top class
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training and playing facilities often requires partnership with
government, especially for women's football infrastructure,
which is historically lagged behind.
There's also a very specific regulatory issue they raised
affecting the a League women particularly something about
visas. Yes, this is a really practical
barrier they want addressed. The issue is that contracts in
the A league women are often relatively short term, typically
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less than full year. The problem is the standard
short term work visas that international players get based
on these contracts often restrict their ability to take
up other flexible secondary employment outside of football.
And why is that secondary employment so important?
Because frankly, salaries. In many women's professional
leagues, including the A League,women are often not yet high
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enough for players, especially internationals, to live on
solely from their football earnings.
Many rely on part time work, coaching, hospitality, other
jobs to supplement their income.So Australia's basically asking
the government to amend the visacriteria for professional female
athletes, recognizing the specific nature of their short
contracts and allowing them moreflexibility to earn a viable
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living while playing in the league.
It's about making Australia a more attractive and feasible
destination for top international talent.
That makes perfect sense. It's a practical tweak to
support the league's growth. Finally, the Australian strategy
leans heavily on football as a tool for diplomacy, for soft
power. This is a really compelling part
of their argument. They highlight that football is
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unique. It's the only sport that truly
connects Australia to literally 211 countries around the world.
That's more diplomatic reach than the United Nations
provides, no? I never thought of it like that.
And their membership in the Asian Football Confederation
AFC, as well as connections to the Oceania Football
Confederation OFC, makes football a critical strategic
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bridge, especially to the vital booming economies of Asia.
They back this up with data. Since 2022 alone, their national
teams, the Socceroos and Matildas, have played matches
against 13 of Australia's 15 largest trading partners a total
of 29 times. Every game is a diplomatic and
potentially economic engagement.So playing football is literally
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foreign policy in action. In many ways, yes, and they plan
to leverage this further by hosting major tournaments.
The upcoming AFC Women's Asian Cup Australia 2026 is a prime
example. What are the projected benefits
of hosting that tournament? Beyond the prestige, the
economic projections are significant, somewhere between
$215 million and $260 million ineconomic output.
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But perhaps even more importantly from a development
perspective, they anticipate hosting the tournament will
inspire a new wave of participation, estimating it
could attract 40,000 new grassroots players, particularly
girls and women. And on the men's side, the
Socceroos achieving qualification for the 2026 World
Cup again is also significant inthis context.
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Hugely significant. It's their 6th consecutive
Executive World Cup qualification, which is a
remarkable achievement reflecting sustained
performance. But crucially, qualifying
directly this time gives them a full, clear year to prepare
strategically for the tournamentitself, rather than during the
stress and disruption of last minute intercontinental
playoffs. That stability is invaluable for
maximizing their potential in the world stage, which again
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enhances Australia's footballingreputation and soft power.
Hashtag tag, otro synthesis and final thought.
OK, let's try and bring this alltogether.
We started this deep dive with Arsen, Wenger's really quite
radical vision, the talent development scheme, the TDs
aiming for 75 elite academies globally by 2027, fueled by $200
million in FIFA funding and driven by this deep
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philosophical belief in nurturing creative thinking
players everywhere. Yeah, it's grand global
blueprint. And then we saw how that vision
has to be translated into reality on the ground in vastly
different context. We saw a via Fey in Uganda
meticulously building administrative stability.
Remember that 100% drop in legalcases, Leveraging FIFA Ford
Front strategically to protect and develop facilities like
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Cadiba Stadium, using branding to build national pride and
enforcing higher standards through things like the C Cafe
license requirement. Governance enabling growth.
And then we contrasted that withFootball Australia's situation.
A wealthy nation but facing an infrastructure crisis driven by
its own success. Needing a massive, politically
savvy $2.8 billion policy proposal just to get basic
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facilities like change rooms andlighting up to scratch for its
nearly 2,000,000 participants. A completely different set of
challenges, but ultimately serving the same goal of
providing quality environments for players.
And that's the core takeaways, isn't it?
The profound, absolutely necessary link between FIFA's
high level global standards and development blueprints like TDs
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and Forward, and the hyperlocal,often complex financial and
political realities facing football associations
day-to-day. FIFA can set the standard
demand, technical excellence, push for integrity.
But achieving it requires the MAS to win those local battles,
whether it's FUFA enforcing coaching licenses and battling
potential land encroachment in Kampala, or Football Australia
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lobbying the federal government in Canberra for $1.5 billion for
multi gender change rooms nationwide.
It's a simultaneous multi level engineering, global vision,
national strategy, local execution.
It really is systemic change being attempted on an
unprecedented scale. Which brings us to a final,
maybe provocative thought for you, the listener, to Mull over
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if Arsene Wenger and FIFA actually succeed.
If they get those 75 elite FIFA talent academies fully
operational by 2027, pumping outhighly skilled, creatively
educated players. And if they reach that goal of
having 50 national teams and 50 clubs from all corners of the
globe genuinely competing at thehighest level, what does the
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world football power structure actually look like in, say,
2035? Will that traditional dominance
of European leagues and nations,status quo we've known for
decades be fundamentally challenged, maybe even
shattered? Could we see a World Cup final
between, say, Uganda and Kazakhstan?
Or a Club World Cup dominated byteams from Africa and Asia?
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This massive sustained investment and talent
identification and development across the entire planet has to
have an impact eventually. It's a fascinating prospect.
So the advice is keep a very close eye on how these non
traditional nations perform in the expanded FIFA Club World Cup
2025. Watch how the African nations
shape up for their upcoming continental tournaments.
Because the shift, however gradual it might seem now, has
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definitely begun. The pieces are being put in
place.
OK, strap yourselves in because today we are doing a massive
deep dive. Forget the day-to-day news for a
bit, we're heading straight intothe heart of global football
strategy. Imagine just soaking it all up.
You know, all the knowledge, thewisdom, the sheer strategic
thinking from the very top mindsshaping the future of the game.
It really is something else. We're looking at this huge kind
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of dual transformation happeningright now.
On one hand, you've got this massive, almost philosophical
blueprint from FIFA designed to fundamentally change who gets to
play football at the highest level globally.
Right. Democratizing elite talent,
basically. Exactly.
And then on the other hand, you have the real world stuff, the
the concrete efforts, the sometimes gritty battles by
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national associations on the ground.
Think places like Uganda or evenAustralia.
They're trying to build the actual infrastructure, implement
the governance needed to meet these, well, these world class
standards. It's where the rubber meets the
road. And the architect behind so much
of this global vision, the name you keep hearing, is Arsen
Winger, of course, the legendarymanager, now FIFA's chief of
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global football development. That's right.
And his core initiative, the engine driving this change, is
the FIFA Talent Development Scheme.
You'll hear it called the TDs. So that's our focus today.
We're analyzing how this huge strategy backed by some serious
financial clout actually translates into projects on the
ground. We'll look at everything from,
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say the new national setup in Uganda, their successes to the
frankly eye watering multibillion dollar policy
demands coming out of Australia.Yeah.
And our mission here really is to make sure you walk away
understanding the scale of this,the huge financial commitments
involved, also the shifts in coaching philosophy needed, you
know, to actually produce these top tier players everywhere.
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And of course, the massive organizational hurdles in making
football truly global, truly competitive, and, importantly,
inclusive. Let's unpack this plan then,
because if Wenger gets his way, the global football hierarchy
could look very, very different in the coming years.
OK, let's start at the top, the big picture.
What was the central problem Wenger identified when he
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stepped into this FIFA role? It wasn't just about tweaking
things, was it? No, not at all.
He wasn't just looking at a gap between, say, Europe and South
America. It was much more fundamental.
He saw a massive systemic failure across the globe in
providing basic opportunity. A failure of opportunity.
Absolutely. It wasn't just about making good
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teams a bit better, it was abouttackling this deep seated
structural inequality in the game.
So what's the official strategicobjective then?
How does FIFA frame this? Well, the language is clear and
incredibly ambitious. It's about reducing global
disparity. Specifically, FIFA has this long
term goal, they've actually labeled it Goal 5, and the aim
is to increase competitiveness so dramatically that you have at
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least 50 clubs and 50 national teams, that's men's and women's
combined from all cotton's regularly competing at the very
highest level. 50 clubs and 50 nations regularly competing at
the top. That's that's a revolution
compared to now. You're talking about doubling,
maybe tripling the number of genuine contenders.
Exactly. It's a radical reshaping of the
global power structure. And his core finding the one
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that really kicked this off was pretty shocking.
Wasn't it about access? It was startling.
His analysis found that in most of the world, in the
conservative estimate they used was around 70% of FIFA's member
associations. Kids simply had no structured
way to play, let alone develop within a quality system. 70%
just no pathway. Pretty much no organized
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coaching, no regular competitions, no talent ID
pipelines. And he contrasted this sharply
with the top 20 ranked countriesin the FIFA rankings.
He argued they weren't there by chance.
They were the nations with the best educational values.
Educational values. That's a key term for him, isn't
it? What does that encompass?
It's crucial. It means having sophisticated
talent identification systems, actually finding the promising
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kids early, It means high quality coach education
programs, training the trainer'sproperly, and it means
structured competitive leagues and tournaments at all youth
levels. It's the whole system.
So the TDs, the talent development scheme, it's
fundamentally about building that educational infrastructure
everywhere. That's the heart of it.
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The philosophy driving it is really simple, almost pure.
Give every talent a chance in the world, full stop.
It's about trying to decouple a kids potential from their
parents bank balance or their post code.
The TDs aims to establish academies globally that
replicate the best practices yousee and say, top European clubs.
Making that high level technicalcoaching and long term
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development thinking accessible no matter where you are born.
Precisely accessible, consistentand high quality.
Now this ties into something else Wenger has been quite vocal
about a critique of the modern game that probably resonates
with a lot of fans, he said. And I'm quoting here, the
freedom of the players has been reduced.
Yes, this is where the coaching revolution aspect comes in.
It's a really profound point he's making.
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Wenger believes that in the drive for tactical discipline,
for structure, for minimizing risk, the coaches have maybe
become too prescriptive, too focused on fixed patterns and
predictable outcomes. Like players becoming robots
executing a plan. Sort of, yeah.
When you enforce too many norms,too many rigid tactical
instructions, you inadvertently or maybe sometimes deliberately
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kill creativity. You kill spontaneity.
You end up teaching players primarily to follow orders, not
necessarily to think for themselves or innovate under
pressure. OK, so how does that actually
manifest on the pitch? Are we talking like a whimmer
being told exactly went across instead of reading the
situation? And how do you even train
coaches to spot, as he puts it, things we don't expect to see?
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Well, it's the difference between a player who executes
the coach's plan perfectly, Maybe it's a 7 out of 10 every
week, and the player who in a key moment does something
totally unexpected, may be risky, but brilliant.
That wins the game. Over.
Coaching, Wanger argues, tends to produce reliable but
predictable players. They might thrive when the game
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follows the script, but when chaos erupts, when the plan
breaks down, they struggle. Because they haven't been
encouraged to solve problems independently.
Exactly. So the new mandate for coaches
within the TDs framework is to be educators of creativity, of
unpredictability. Their job isn't just drills and
tactics. It's identifying and nurturing
those unique player personalities, finding the kid
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who sees the impossible pass andencouraging them to try it.
Maybe we're finding the technique but not crushing the
instinct or the defender who hasthe vision to launch a quick,
unexpected counter instead of just playing it safe.
So it's about teaching principles but leaving room for
genius. That's a good way to put it.
Teach the fundamentals, the tactical understanding, but
allow space for individual brilliance to breathe, to make
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mistakes and ultimately to flourish.
If you want those 50 competitiveteams globally, Van Gogh argues,
you need genuine world class thinkers on the pitch, not just
technically gifted athletes who follow instructions.
And nurturing that kind of creative talent requires strong
professional clubs in every region, right?
Which I suppose brings us to theFIFA Club World Cup 2025 and its
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expansion. That's not just a tournament
anymore, is it? It's a development tool.
That's precisely how FIFA, and Wenger specifically, are
positioning it. The expanded 32 team event
coming up in the US in June and July 2025 serves a really
crucial development function. Wenger's logic is
straightforward. Clubs are the primary engines of
player development. They provide the daily training,
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the coaching, the competitive environment makes sense.
But if the absolute pinnacle of club football, both in terms of
competition and financial reward, is almost exclusively
concentrated in Europe, what happens?
Every top young talent outside Europe just aims to get there as
quickly as possible. Exactly.
They often leave their home leagues too early, maybe before
they're fully ready physically or mentally.
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And that talent drain, weakens the local leagues, reduces their
competitiveness, makes them lessattractive for fans and
sponsors. It's a cycle.
So the expanded Club World Cup is designed to break that cycle.
That's the idea. By significantly strengthening
top clubs outside of Europe, giving them guaranteed access to
this elite global showcase, massive international exposure
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and crucially, substantial financial incentives, you make
their domestic leagues a more viable, more attractive long
term career path. You give clubs in, say, South
America, Africa, Asia a bigger reason to invest heavily in
their own youth development, their own stadiums, their own
coaching, because the potential payoff competing on that world
stage is now much, much bigger. Precisely.
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It helps keep talent local for longer, strengthening the entire
football pyramid in those regions.
And the financial incentive is, well, it's huge.
The figure being quoted is a total prize money pot of USD 1
billion. Yeah, billion dollars.
It's a staggering amount. But you know, the criticism you
often hear with these big FIFA tournaments is that the money
just ends up concentrating wealth among the already rich
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clubs. How does this billion dollar pot
actually support global development?
Does it filter down? That's a fair question, and it's
something FIFA seems to have considered in the structure.
A significant chunk of that $1 billion is specifically
designated for solidarity payments.
These aren't just performance bonuses for the 32 participating
clubs. They're designed to be
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distributed more broadly, benefiting clubs worldwide, even
those not directly involved in the tournament.
OK, so it's a mechanism to spread the wealth generated at
the very top? Yes, it's intended to ensure
that the financial success of this elite global competition
flows back down, reinvesting into the development pipeline
across all confederations. It reinforces this idea of a
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shared ecosystem where success at the top helps fuel growth at
the grassroots. And really, this kind of money
provides the well the jet fuel needed to sustain and expand the
talent development scheme globally.
Right. Speaking of that jet fuel, let's
dive into the operational side of the talent development scheme
itself. FIFA put USD 200 million on the
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table back in December 2022 justto get this thing rolling.
How on earth do you manage the logistics of rolling out
tailored development plans across what nearly every country
in the world? The scale is just immense.
You have to remember the TDs isn't A1 science fits all
program. It's already active in over 180
of Fisa's 211 member associations.
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Over 180 MAS. Wow.
And within those MAS, they've already implemented more than
600 tailor made projects. Think about that 600 the scope
development plans. Each one has to be designed
considering the unique cultural context, the existing or non
existing infrastructure, the specific challenges, the
governance capacity of that particular nation from tiny
island states to huge continental powerhouses.
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The complexity must be mind boggling coordinating all that.
It requires an incredibly sophisticated central team at
FIFA, but also relies heavily onregional experts and close
collaboration with the M as themselves.
They need deep understanding of local conditions to make sure
the projects are actually effective.
And the most visible part of this, the physical manifestation
are the FIFA talent academies. You mentioned the target
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earlier. How many are up and running now?
Right now there are 33 FIFA Talent Academies officially
established and operating. 33 already, yes.
But the ambition, as you said, is staggering.
The target they've set is to reach 75 of these elite
academies globally by the end of2027. 75 in just a few years.
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That implies Wenger really believes this momentum is, as he
apparently put it, unstoppable. He certainly seems confident
that rate of growth is incredibly fast for establishing
high level institutions like these.
But what exactly is a FIFA talent Academy?
It's clearly more than just a place with nice pitches and good
coaches, right? The phrase they use is creating
well-rounded individuals. Absolutely.
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Critical point. It's about holistic development.
Yes, they provide the absolute highest level of football
training, tactics, sport science, the works.
But that's only part of the equation.
Equally crucial and actually mandated by FIFA for these
academies, is a strong focus on formal education and broader
personal development. They're designed to instill
values like discipline, teamwork, leadership,
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resilience, all through the lensof football, but applicable to
life beyond it. So preparing them for life, not
just for a potential pro career.That's the goal because the
reality is not every talented kid will make it.
As a professional footballer, the academies have a duty of
care beyond just producing players.
And you mentioned mandated, the source material highlighted 2
requirements that are absolutelynon negotiable for an MA to get
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FIFA support for an Academy. Yes, and they are fundamental.
Every single FIFA talent Academymust prioritize safeguarding and
education. Safeguarding and education core
pillars. In negotiable, safeguarding
means robust policies and procedures to protect young
players from any form of abuse, harassment or exploitation.
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It has to be a safe environment physically and emotionally.
And education means ensuring allAcademy players continue their
formal schooling get proper academic qualifications.
So they have options, a pathway,even if the football dream
doesn't work out. Precisely.
It protects the players futures.This ethical and educational
foundation is absolutely centralto the entire TDs philosophy.
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It's about responsible development.
OK, let's look at some real world examples.
These early case studies show how the TDs adapts right
Bahrain, for instance, they wereflagged as an early pioneer,
holding a milestone event back in January 2025.
Right, Bahrain is a good exampleof that bespoke approach.
Their specific development plan,supported by the TDs, wasn't
just about generic training. It was carefully tailored to
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build a sustainable local football ecosystem.
The focus was on retaining and nurturing talent within Bahrain
in the Gulf region, rather than just, say, importing a European
coaching model wholesale or losing all their best prospects
abroad early. Interesting.
Then you've got a very differentcontext.
Egypt, a giant of African football, huge population,
incredible passion. They launched their Academy in
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Cairo in February 2025. Egypt is what FIFA described as
fertile environment. You've got immense natural
passion for the game, a massive youth population, and, as they
noted, huge technical qualities inherently present.
But despite being record seven time AFCON winners, their youth
development has been historically inconsistent,
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hasn't it? Exactly.
Sporadic success rather than a consistent production line.
So the FIFA project there, the TDs Academy, aims to bring
stability and structure to that youth development process.
The goal is to provide that longterm, high quality pathway to
help Egypt fully harness its enormous raw potential and turn
that into consistent excellence at all levels.
And it's important to stress this isn't just a program for
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developing nations, is it? The scheme is truly global.
Wales Open the first FIFA talentAcademy in Europe.
Correct. The Academy at Dragon Park in
Newport shows the TDs is also about maximizing potential
everywhere even and establish football incontinence for Wales.
It provides a clear high level pathway for both boys and girls.
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It helps them identify, nurture and hopefully retain more top
local talent, building on the fantastic momentum their
national teams have generated recently.
It's an investment in sustainable domestic player
production for them. And one more example that
highlights how different FIFA programs work together.
Kazakhstan. Their milestone event was in
September 2025 at the Talger National Training Center.
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Yes. And the key point about Talger
is that it directly benefited from another major FIFA
initiative, the FIFA Ford program.
So Ford provides the basic infrastructure funding.
Generally, yes. FIFA Forward is often about
funding essential facilities like pitches, training centers,
administrative buildings. In Talger's case, the Forward
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program helped build 3 of the pitches that the new TDs Academy
now uses. It shows how these programs are
designed to complement each other.
You need the foundational infrastructure which Forward
often supports, and then you layer on the elite development
structures like the TDs academies.
It's a multi stage investment. OK, so that covers the elite
academies, but Wenger's vision also includes something much
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more grassroots, right? The FIFA Arena project.
Yes, this tackles that fundamental issue of access we
talked about earlier, but at themost basic level, just having a
safe place to play. The goal of the FIFA Arena
project is straightforward but ambitious.
Create at least 1000 safe, accessible mini pitches
worldwide. These are often small artificial
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turf pitches, sometimes caged. 1000 mini pitches?
Where are they targeting these? They're prioritizing densely
populated urban areas where opengreen space is scarce, and also
less privileged rural areas where kids might literally have
nowhere safe to kick a ball. And we saw a couple of quick
examples of where these have landed.
Malta was mentioned. Yeah, Malta became the youngest
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country to open one of these FIFA Arena mini pitches.
It nicely coincided with their MFA's 125th anniversary and the
opening of their new National Football Center.
And Azerbaijan? In Azerbaijan, they completed 2
pitches as part of this project and the direct beneficiaries
were cited as over 6000 studentsat 2 local schools.
So the arena project isn't just about finding the next
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superstar, it's about community health, social inclusion, giving
kids a protected space to play, exercise, learn teamwork, basic
life skills. It directly delivers on that
core. TDs promise opportunity and a
safe environment for everyone. OK, so that's the global vision
and the tools FIFA is deploying.Now let's zoom in on how this
actually plays out at the national level.
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We're going to look at a really impressive case study the
Federation of Uganda Football Associations, FUFA, especially
as they celebrate their centenary.
This seems like a real master class in using good governance
to drive progress. It really is a remarkable story,
especially because they're achieving success on multiple
fronts simultaneously. On the pitch, you've got the
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senior men's team, the Uganda Cranes, qualifying for AFCON
2025. Huge achievement and their U-17
boys team made history qualifying for their World Cup.
That's a massive indicator of youth development working.
And off the pitch, they're gearing up for major hosting
duties too, aren't they? Yes, that's crucial context.
They're preparing right now to host the African Nations
Championship, the Chan tournament in August and looking
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further ahead they're Co hostingthe main Africa Cup of Nations
Pamoja AFCON in 2027. Let's pause on Shenko for a
second. Hosting the African Nations
Championship. Why is that such a significant
test? Maybe even more so in some ways
than hosting AFCON for a federation like FFA.
That's a great question. The Chan tournament is unique,
as you know, because it's specifically for players who
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play in their own country's domestic league.
So hosting Chan forces the MAFUFA in this case, to prove
not just their logistical capacity, hotels, transport,
stadium security for a major continental event, but it also
puts their domestic football structures under the spotlight
because the players on show are products of their own league
system. Exactly.
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It validates or exposes the quality of their local leagues,
their clubs, their homegrown talent pathways.
Successfully hosting Chan is a huge statement that your
domestic game is healthy and functional, which is precisely
what Wingers TDs Vision aims to foster globally.
Right? And underpinning all this
progress in Uganda seems to be areal focus on governance.
Guided by this, the hat trick manifesto from the FUFA
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president Honorable Magogo MosesHassim.
There was 1 statistic about their legal situation that just
jumped out. It's genuinely astounding,
especially in the often turbulent world of football
administration. For the first time in a decade,
FUFA achieved a 100% drop in newlegal cases being filed against
the federation. 0 new cases. 100% drop.
How did they manage that? According to Fufa, it's the
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direct result of rigorous, meticulous compliance with
Uganda's national laws, combinedwith proactive guidance from
their internal legal office. They've basically
professionalized their administration to the point
where legal challenges, which can be a massive drain on
resources and focus for many MAS, have been effectively
eliminated for that period. That kind of stability must be
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the foundation for everything else.
It builds credibility. Absolutely, credibility
domestically, but crucially, credibility internationally.
When organizations like SEFA or CAF see that level of
administrative stability and legal compliance, it makes them
much more confident about investing funds like those from
the FIFA Forward program. And that stability frees them up
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to focus on protecting the integrity of the game itself.
They're actively working with the Ugandan police on match
manipulation. Yes, they're taking integrity
very seriously. It's not just talk.
Their internal judicial bodies are clearly active and
empowered. This was demonstrated when their
adjudicatory chamber banned 12 individuals in November 2024 on
integrity related charges. 12 people banned.
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Including one lifetime ban, which sends a very strong
message. Taking this kind of decisive
public action against Match Fix and corruption shows the global
football community, potential sponsors and crucially the fans
that they are committed to cleansport.
That's vital for long term trustand investment.
And that hard earned credibilitythat stability directly
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translates into infrastructure development, doesn't it?
The flagship example is the FUVAStadium Kadiba, funded largely
by the FIFA Forward program. Kadiba is a perfect example of
strategic infrastructure investment.
It's not just another stadium, it's being developed with
specific high level purposes in mind.
It's designated as a key training ground for the upcoming
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Chan 2024 and also for that joint PAMOCHA AFCON in 2027.
So it's built into their long term hosting strategy.
What did the recent development phase involve?
Phase two was quite comprehensive.
They constructed The Maine Pavilions Foundation, installed
floodlights meeting CDF standards essential for hosting
international matches and allowing evening training, put
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in modern offices, and importantly, laid a natural
grasp playing turf to meet specifications.
And there's a really interestingdetail about protecting the
investment at Kadiva looking ahead.
Yes, this shows smart long term planning.
They use $460,600 specifically from FIFA forward funds, not
just to build but to acquire additional adjacent land,
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bringing the total site area to 6.4 acres.
Why was securing extra land so important?
To prevent future encroachment in rapidly developing urban or
semi urban areas, land is valuable.
Ensuring they had control over the surrounding space protects
the stadium from being hemmed inby other developments later on,
it states. Guards the potential for future
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expansion and maintains the integrity of the facility.
It's a very practical, forward thinking use of development
funds. And the stadium is now
operational with big plans for the future.
Yes, it officially opened to thepublic in May 2025 and the
vision for Phase 3 is ambitious.They aim to eventually increase
the seating capacity to 20,000, making it a significant national
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venue. Beyond the physical
infrastructure, FUFA is also being quite clever with branding
and marketing, using it to buildnational pride around their
competitions. This is really smart cultural
integration. Take their new trophies.
The main one for the FUI Uganda Premier League is named
Margarita. After Margarita Peak, Uganda's
highest mountain. Exactly 16,763 feet.
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It's a powerful symbol of aspiration, of reaching the
pinnacle of Uganda in football. Even the trophy for the second
division, the FUFA Big League, has a distinct national
identity. It's 455mm tall and its design
is inspired by the Buffalo, another strong Ugandan symbol.
It gives the competition's more meaning, more soul.
Speaking of soul, they did something quite impactful for
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the women's league visibility to.
The FUFA Women's Super League FWSL Trophy Tour was brilliant.
The theme was a trophy with a soul, but crucially, they didn't
just parade it around clubs. They strategically engaged very
powerful female role models in the country, including Uganda's
first lady and the Speaker of Parliament.
Why is that level of engagement so significant?
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It's high level social and political endorsement.
When figures like the First Ladyare seen holding the FWSL
trophy, it sends a powerful message across society.
Women's football matters. It's valued.
It's supported at the very highest levels.
It helps normalize and elevate the women's game in the public
consciousness, which is criticalfor growth, attracting sponsors
and inspiring young girls. And operationally, they're
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pushing for professionalism through digital systems, the
FUFAE ticketing system and something called CLOP.
Yes, modernizing operations is key.
E Ticketing streamlines access for fans and improves financial
transparency. The CLOP system that's the Club
Licensing online platform is arguably even more important for
structural development. OK, what exactly is CLOP and why
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is implementing it's such a big deal for FUFA?
CLOP is essentially a digital tool used by FIFA and the
confederations like CAF to manage, monitor and enforce club
licensing regulations. These regulations are a set of
minimum standards that clubs have to meet to participate in
top competitions. They cover everything from
having adequate stadium facilities and safety procedures
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to running proper youth development programs, proving
financial solvency and having qualified staff.
Cause CLOP is the tool that actually forces clubs to meet
those standards. Precisely by making the
application and monitoring process digital and transparent
via CLOPFUFA can ensure clubs are genuinely complying.
It helps them enforce crucial rules like the example given
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that every head coach in the Uganda Premier League UPL must
now hold a CAA license. Right, the CAFA license.
Why is mandating that specific license such a significant step
up for the quality of coaching in the UPL?
What does it guarantee? The CFA license is the highest
coaching qualification awarded by the Confederation of African
Football. It requires extensive training,
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practical assessments and a deepunderstanding of modern coaching
methodologies, tactics, sports science and player management.
By mandating it for UPL head coaches, FUFA is essentially
enforcing a minimum standard of elite, internationally
recognized coaching competence. It stops clubs from appointing
unqualified or under qualified coaches just because they're
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cheap or convenient. It ensures that the players in
Uganda's top league are being guided by professionals trained
to world class standards, which directly feeds into player
development and the overall quality of the league, Exactly
what Wanger's TDs is pushing forglobally.
OK, that makes sense. And finally, at the very base of
the pyramid, FUFAS grassroots reach looks substantial, tying
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into FIFA's own programs. Yes, they're actively
implementing the FIFA Football for Schools F4S program.
The numbers they reported are significant, 39,122 footballs
distributed across 2568 schools.That's putting equipment
directly into the hands of kids across the country. 39,000
footballs. That's a lot of footballs.
It is and the impact of participating in continental
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schools competitions was also highlighted to Ugandan schools.
Amos College School and Royal Giant High School performed so
well in the CF African Schools Championship that they were
awarded brand new Isuzu buses bythe Mud SEPI Foundation.
Buses as prizes? Yes.
Think about how transformative that is for a school team in
Uganda. A bus isn't just a trophy, it's
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a high value, practical asset. It solves fundamental logistical
problems for traveling to matches for educational trips.
It's a tangible reward, showing that success at the grassroots
level fostered by these programsbrings real, lasting benefits to
the institutions and communitiesinvolved.
OK, so FUFA in Uganda provides this compelling model of using
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governance and targeted FIFA funding to build stability and
Dr. success. Now let's shift continents and
look at Australia, a very different context.
A developed economy, huge landmass, but facing its own
massive challenge. Almost the opposite problem in
some ways. Exactly.
Australia isn't struggling for participation, they're
struggling guess of participation.
Their challenge is managing explosive growth that's
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completely overwhelming their existing infrastructure.
And they've laid this out in a major policy document aimed at
the government right securing our football future.
Yes, it's essentially A detailed, meticulously costed
plea for systemic government investment.
The numbers are pretty staggering.
They've seen 11% growth in participation in just 12 months.
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11% in one year. Yeah, pushing the total number
of participants to 1.91 million people playing across 3302
active clubs, the community facilities, the local pitches,
the changing rooms. They just weren't built for this
level of demand and they're crumbling under the pressure.
And the specific deficits they identified are surprisingly
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basic things you might take so granted.
They really are. The core issues highlighted are
inadequate change rooms, insufficient lighting to allow
evening play and poor drainage leading to waterlogged, unusable
pitches for large parts of the year.
Basic, fundamental stuff. How many facilities are we
talking about and what's the price tag?
They've identified 2103 venues across the country that need
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upgrading, covering over 5100 pitches.
The total estimated cost to fix these deficits and bring
community facilities up to a decent standard over the next
decade is $2.8 billion. $2.8 billion just for community
facilities. It's a huge number but they make
the crucial point that this isn't just an investment in
football. Approximately 2/3 of these
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facilities are shared with othersports like cricket, Aussie
Rules, rugby league, so upgrading them benefits entire
communities, not just football participants.
That's a smart political angle. And the way they've broken down
that $2.8 billion cost, assigning responsibility to
different levels of government, that seems very strategic, too.
It's quite brilliant actually. It's a systematic Co funding
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proposal designed to align with existing government
responsibilities and national priorities.
OK, walk us through that breakdown.
Who are they asking for what? Right.
They're targeting the federal government, the national
government, for the biggest chunk, the $1.56 billion needed
to fix the change room gap. Why target the Fed specifically
for change rooms? Because the major push within
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that is for multi gender change rooms, providing appropriate,
safe and private facilities for female participants is
absolutely critical for attracting and importantly,
retaining girls and women in thesport.
This directly taps into nationalgovernment policies around
promoting gender equality, inclusion in sport and female
participation. It frames it as a national
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equity issue, not just a sports facilities issue.
Very clever. OK, so feds for change rooms.
What about the States and territories?
The state and territory governments are being asked to
fund the $851 million lighting gap.
The goal here is to upgrade fields to a standard of 100 lux
LED lighting. Why is lighting so crucial?
Because it dramatically increases the available hours
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for training and matches, especially during winter or
after school work. With participation booming, they
simply need more usable time on the existing pitches.
Lighting is the most effective way to unlock that extra
capacity without building entirely new fields.
Makes sense. And the final piece?
That leaves the $391 million drainage gap, which they're
asking local governments councils to address over five
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years. This fits as pitch maintenance
in dealing with local ground issues is traditionally more of
a local council responsibility, so it's an elegant structure.
Federal for gender equity infrastructure, state territory
for capacity boosting infrastructure, and local for
ground level maintenance infrastructure.
Everyone has a clear role. It spreads the burden but also
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makes it harder for any one level of government to say, not
our problem. Exactly.
It presents a unified logical plan.
Now, beyond the community level,fixing the pitches and lights,
Australia is also focused on strengthening the actual player
pathway. The launch of the new Australian
Championship, the national second tier, seems vital here.
Absolutely vital. This new league is set to launch
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in October 2025. It'll be a 16 team national
competition and they've already named 8 foundation clubs
historic names like Marconi, Stallions FC, South Melbourne
FC. Why is a national second
division so important for Australian football development?
Because for years there's there's been a huge gap between
the state based semi professional leagues, the MPLS
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and the fully professional A leagues, men's and women's.
The national second tier NST creates that crucial middle
step. It provides a highly competitive
national platform for talented players who might not be quite
ready for the A league or for A league players needing game
time. It's the bridge, it's the
proving ground where young starslike Nestori Iramkunda, who
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recently moved to Bayern Munich,can be properly developed and
showcased before potentially moving overseas or up to the A
league. So it strengthens the whole
pyramid and they need funding toget it off the ground.
Yes, they're requesting $1 million in seed funding from the
government to help ensure the successful launch and initial
operation of the NST. Relatively small money in the
grand scheme, but critical to establishing that vital link.
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And then there's the very top end, the elite infrastructure
needed for national teams and the professional clubs
themselves. Right.
The policy calls for significantgovernment investment here, too.
They want funding for a dedicated National Football
headquarters requesting $50 million for that, and also
support for establishing a network of perhaps four or five
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National Institutes of football across the country serving as
high performance hubs. And specific club needs are
mentioned too. Yes, they highlight the need for
funding support for projects like MacArthur Bull Center of
Excellence and Melbourne City's dedicated women's stadium
project at KC Fields. It underlines the fact that even
in established professional leagues, developing top class
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training and playing facilities often requires partnership with
government, especially for women's football infrastructure,
which is historically lagged behind.
There's also a very specific regulatory issue they raised
affecting the a League women particularly something about
visas. Yes, this is a really practical
barrier they want addressed. The issue is that contracts in
the A league women are often relatively short term, typically
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less than full year. The problem is the standard
short term work visas that international players get based
on these contracts often restrict their ability to take
up other flexible secondary employment outside of football.
And why is that secondary employment so important?
Because frankly, salaries. In many women's professional
leagues, including the A League,women are often not yet high
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enough for players, especially internationals, to live on
solely from their football earnings.
Many rely on part time work, coaching, hospitality, other
jobs to supplement their income.So Australia's basically asking
the government to amend the visacriteria for professional female
athletes, recognizing the specific nature of their short
contracts and allowing them moreflexibility to earn a viable
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living while playing in the league.
It's about making Australia a more attractive and feasible
destination for top international talent.
That makes perfect sense. It's a practical tweak to
support the league's growth. Finally, the Australian strategy
leans heavily on football as a tool for diplomacy, for soft
power. This is a really compelling part
of their argument. They highlight that football is
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unique. It's the only sport that truly
connects Australia to literally 211 countries around the world.
That's more diplomatic reach than the United Nations
provides, no? I never thought of it like that.
And their membership in the Asian Football Confederation
AFC, as well as connections to the Oceania Football
Confederation OFC, makes football a critical strategic
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bridge, especially to the vital booming economies of Asia.
They back this up with data. Since 2022 alone, their national
teams, the Socceroos and Matildas, have played matches
against 13 of Australia's 15 largest trading partners a total
of 29 times. Every game is a diplomatic and
potentially economic engagement.So playing football is literally
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foreign policy in action. In many ways, yes, and they plan
to leverage this further by hosting major tournaments.
The upcoming AFC Women's Asian Cup Australia 2026 is a prime
example. What are the projected benefits
of hosting that tournament? Beyond the prestige, the
economic projections are significant, somewhere between
$215 million and $260 million ineconomic output.
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But perhaps even more importantly from a development
perspective, they anticipate hosting the tournament will
inspire a new wave of participation, estimating it
could attract 40,000 new grassroots players, particularly
girls and women. And on the men's side, the
Socceroos achieving qualification for the 2026 World
Cup again is also significant inthis context.
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Hugely significant. It's their 6th consecutive
Executive World Cup qualification, which is a
remarkable achievement reflecting sustained
performance. But crucially, qualifying
directly this time gives them a full, clear year to prepare
strategically for the tournamentitself, rather than during the
stress and disruption of last minute intercontinental
playoffs. That stability is invaluable for
maximizing their potential in the world stage, which again
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enhances Australia's footballingreputation and soft power.
Hashtag tag, otro synthesis and final thought.
OK, let's try and bring this alltogether.
We started this deep dive with Arsen, Wenger's really quite
radical vision, the talent development scheme, the TDs
aiming for 75 elite academies globally by 2027, fueled by $200
million in FIFA funding and driven by this deep
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philosophical belief in nurturing creative thinking
players everywhere. Yeah, it's grand global
blueprint. And then we saw how that vision
has to be translated into reality on the ground in vastly
different context. We saw a via Fey in Uganda
meticulously building administrative stability.
Remember that 100% drop in legalcases, Leveraging FIFA Ford
Front strategically to protect and develop facilities like
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Cadiba Stadium, using branding to build national pride and
enforcing higher standards through things like the C Cafe
license requirement. Governance enabling growth.
And then we contrasted that withFootball Australia's situation.
A wealthy nation but facing an infrastructure crisis driven by
its own success. Needing a massive, politically
savvy $2.8 billion policy proposal just to get basic
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facilities like change rooms andlighting up to scratch for its
nearly 2,000,000 participants. A completely different set of
challenges, but ultimately serving the same goal of
providing quality environments for players.
And that's the core takeaways, isn't it?
The profound, absolutely necessary link between FIFA's
high level global standards and development blueprints like TDs
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and Forward, and the hyperlocal,often complex financial and
political realities facing football associations
day-to-day. FIFA can set the standard
demand, technical excellence, push for integrity.
But achieving it requires the MAS to win those local battles,
whether it's FUFA enforcing coaching licenses and battling
potential land encroachment in Kampala, or Football Australia
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lobbying the federal government in Canberra for $1.5 billion for
multi gender change rooms nationwide.
It's a simultaneous multi level engineering, global vision,
national strategy, local execution.
It really is systemic change being attempted on an
unprecedented scale. Which brings us to a final,
maybe provocative thought for you, the listener, to Mull over
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if Arsene Wenger and FIFA actually succeed.
If they get those 75 elite FIFA talent academies fully
operational by 2027, pumping outhighly skilled, creatively
educated players. And if they reach that goal of
having 50 national teams and 50 clubs from all corners of the
globe genuinely competing at thehighest level, what does the
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world football power structure actually look like in, say,
2035? Will that traditional dominance
of European leagues and nations,status quo we've known for
decades be fundamentally challenged, maybe even
shattered? Could we see a World Cup final
between, say, Uganda and Kazakhstan?
Or a Club World Cup dominated byteams from Africa and Asia?
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This massive sustained investment and talent
identification and development across the entire planet has to
have an impact eventually. It's a fascinating prospect.
So the advice is keep a very close eye on how these non
traditional nations perform in the expanded FIFA Club World Cup
2025. Watch how the African nations
shape up for their upcoming continental tournaments.
Because the shift, however gradual it might seem now, has
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definitely begun. The pieces are being put in
place.
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