September 23, 2025 • 41 mins
🎙️ EP#375 | DSD | What's the Play? Charlie, Chaos & Christian Chess
The death of Charlie Kirk has shaken the political and cultural landscape—and this episode pulls no punches. We dive headfirst into the confusion, conspiracy, and contradictions surrounding the official story. From the mysterious bullet wound to the alleged involvement of the Netanyahu administration, no angle is off-limits.
Ray D breaks down Brett Weinstein's sharp critique of the Trump administration and uses it as a springboard to examine whether voters were duped, divided, or dangerously uninformed. He also scrutinizes the intense religious undertones of Charlie Kirk's "memorial," asking if it was truly a celebration of life or a MAGA-pilled marketing campaign.
With fiery commentary, behind-the-scenes intel, and viral TikTok clips, this episode connects the dots between Tucker Carlson's hummus-laced allegory, Christian nationalism vs. Christian Zionism, and the bizarrely pristine casket photo posted by Erica Kirk. If you think you've heard it all—think again.
🔥 Top 5 Key Points
Brett Weinstein on Trump: No choice, no real win
Charlie Kirk memorial: Religion or political theater?
Tucker Carlson's speech: Jesus, hummus, and coded messages
Erica Kirk's strange post: Grief or grooming a narrative?
The bullet mystery: No exit wound, Man of Steel?
🔑 Keywords & Themes
Charlie Kirk, Brett Weinstein, Trump administration, RFK Jr., Tulsi Gabbard, Tucker Carlson, Erica Kirk, Netanyahu, Israel, conspiracy, assassination, bullet wound, Turning Point USA, Christian nationalism, Christian Zionism, MAGA, political divide, media manipulation, George Floyd, BLM, SummerSlam Memorial, 4D chess, marketing slogans, Roman Empire, Jesus Christ, funeral controversy, TikTok theories, hummus, sniper theory, Tim Walls, Kamala Harris, Candace Owens
⏳ Chapters & Timestamps
[0:00] Cold Open: No Alternative to Trump?
[1:25] Intro & Brett Weinstein Breakdown
[2:50] The Two Types of Friends
[3:53] Trump Regret & Media Echoes
[5:15] Labyrinth of Power: Deep State?
[7:09] Charlie Kirk's SummerSlam Funeral
[8:50] 2020 Flashbacks: Division Exposed
[10:40] Christian Nationalism vs. Zionism
[13:48] Tucker's Hummus Parable
[15:31] Tucker Allowed to Speak?
[17:57] Who Killed Jesus? Who Killed Charlie?
[21:29] Hummus = Israel?
[24:18] This Is The Turning Point
[26:04] The Wife: Too Perfect to Be True?
[28:21] Open Casket Post: Appropriate or Agenda?
[32:04] MAGA Rally or Memorial?
[34:03] The Bullet That Didn’t Exit
[37:41] Man of Steel Statement Breakdown
[40:23] Final Thoughts: Divide & Conquer
[41:05] Zipix Sponsor Read
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🔥 Top 7 Key Points
🧠 No Alternative Argument
🕊️ Fake Funeral Vibes
📸 Casket Clout Chasing
🤐 Tucker’s Coded Criticism
✝️ Christian Nationalism Surge
🕵️ Bullet = Cover-Up?
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Episode Transcript
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Productionbyalphonic.com. The following podcast is a deep
shallow dive production. And you're going to love it.
OK, let's go. Every conversation about how the
Trump administration is doing has to begin with the fact that
there was no alternative. I don't know if you voted for
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him any other times. This was my first time and I got
to say, even though I don't think my expectations were
extremely lofty as of now, I feel relatively disappointed
with the outcome. I'm curious what your grades are
for him. I know that you were kind of
more in alignment with him because of probably RFK junior
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and maybe Tulsi or something like that.
What are your thoughts? I am confused by what I see.
Me too. I am completely comfortable with
having voted for Trump. It was my first time because of
the apocalypse that was represented by the blue ticket.
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True, and so I just don't think there was any rational choice.
We had an absolute emergency on our hands and this simple
ability to vote for something that was in some way authentic
made it the only game in town. Hey, what's up, everybody?
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Happy Tuesday. Hey, sorry for getting this out
a little bit late, but anyway, OK, Hope you guys had a great
weekend, all that jazz. What did I want to talk about?
All right, we're going to talk about a bunch of things today
and just kind of see the direction that this takes.
This is a guy named Brett Weinstein.
I think I've played him before on the podcast, potentially.
He has a brother named Eric Weinstein.
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I actually really like both of these guys.
They're really, they're pretty good.
I like Brett more than I like Eric and I'm trying to get him
on the podcast. So we'll see if we can make that
happen. But you know, I wanted to start
out with this clip because I've been wanting to talk about this
for a while and it's really, youknow, the, what's going on with
the Trump administration. We're going to, we're going to
go into Charlie Kirk a little bit more today as well.
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Because if you did not see, you know, it's interesting.
It's like I, I've got like 2 sets of friends right now or two
groups. I've got ones that are like
ultra obsessed over everything. And so like whenever an episode
comes out or really anything, it's we're chatting on text, DM
on Instagram, DM on Facebook. I've got one friend, I'm not
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going to mention her name. She is hilarious.
Like within within an hour I'll get like a text message from her
Adm on Instagram and then Adm onFacebook and then Adm on TikTok.
I'll be like, Oh my God, we're like communicating across every
every possible platform. So I've got that group of
friends and then I've got another group that just is not
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into anything. And so, hey, you know what,
hopefully listening to this episode will will meet both of
those needs because it'll go a little bit deeper for the folks
that are paying attention and then at least give the folks
that are not paying attention a good, you know, a good top line
of what's going on. But I wanted to play Brett's
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clip in terms of the Trump administration.
And there's a little bit more because, you know, here we are,
you know, gosh, maybe, what, 8 months, 8 months in?
And, you know, I, I got to be honest, a good chunk of America,
myself included, is just like, what is going on?
What, what did we end up getting?
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You know, it's kind of like voting for one thing and then
completely getting something else.
And man, there is a growing, growing voice on social media
that that is echoing that same sentiment.
And, you know, that was a littlebit on display at the Charlie
Kirk, you know, summer slam funeral event, which I'll talk
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about in a little bit. But let's listen to a little bit
of the rest of this from Brett, because I think he does a really
nice job of, you know, kind of kind of encapsulating what many
people are feeling and and what he talked about in the beginning
of that segment. You know, he was right.
It was like what a mess from theDemocrat side, you know, not
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only the past four years, from 2020 to 2024, but just the way
all of that went down with, you know, Biden, you know, stepping
down at the last minute, them not even having a real primary,
trying to slide Kamala into that.
You know, the they all of that stuff was just a mess.
And even with all that, I forgetwhat the voting was, but it, it
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definitely was closer than I thought.
But you know, it's, it's let's let's let's take the jump off
point from what he said, as I really didn't feel like I had
another choice. I just wanted to kind of go in
another direction and vote for what at the time I consider the
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lesser of two evils. OK, now let's listen to the
rest. Now, As for what is transpiring
under the Trump administration, I am aware that there is a
labyrinth of power and a hidden priority list.
The administration presumably has things it wants to
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accomplish. The labyrinth of power sets the
ground rules as to what can be accomplished at what rate, and
in exchange for what. I know I'm not Privy to that.
And so the real question is, howdoes this stack up compared to
what was possible given the cards that President Trump held
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on inauguration? And I don't think any of us are
in a position to answer that. So, you know, is the
disappointment the result of thefact that the constraints on the
president are greater than we hoped and maybe imagined?
Are they the result of the priorities not being the
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represented priorities? Undoubtedly that plays some
role. But, you know, again, in light
of what was, you know, we had President Biden was not the
president in the meaningful sense of that would be Medicare
for them to have attempted to run him again.
And then at the point that that became implausible, to swap in
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an empty shirt is such a dire commentary on the state of the
Republic that I think every conversation about how the Trump
administration is doing has to begin with the fact that there
was no alternative. All right, I think that was
incredibly well said. And you know, the most
interesting part is it sounds like that was Brett.
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I don't know who he was talking to, but you know, a couple guys
that you know, we're not Team Trump guys or like always Trump
guys or Trump worship syndrome guys.
But again, there, there's no alternative.
So now here we are, here we are.And it's like, what is going on?
All right, let me tell you, Let me shoot some real talk at you
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and and just tell you what I seehappening.
And it was on full display on Sunday at Charlie Kirk's.
Again, I call it like his summerslam memorial service, which was
insane. I mean, it was insane.
Now let's start with the good. You know, it was a nice
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gathering of people that obviously were there to pay
their respects to, to Charlie. And again, I completely respect
that 100%. You know, from everything that I
saw videos and all of that, obviously it was it was
peaceful. There wasn't any looting, there
wasn't any craziness and all that.
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So the Republican slash conservative slash Christian
base of America is basically, you know, saying, hey, look,
this is how we do it. This is how we celebrate slash
grieve. You know, we're not setting cars
on fire, we're not looting cities, we're not looting small
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businesses. And again, that is, that is
creating the the division between the left versus right.
They're obviously referring to, you know, things like the Black
Lives Matters movement and all the things that took place when
George Floyd got killed back in 2020.
Man, that is insane that that was so long ago.
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I think that was 2020. Yeah.
That was 20. Was that 2020?
Yeah, that was 2020. Hold on, let me look.
Yeah, He died on May 25th, 2020.That's insane.
Doesn't that feel like yesterday?
It really feels like yesterday. But obviously what took place
there, you know, you had a bunchof videos on especially
Instagram of, you know, the top of the screen was kind of the
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peace love kumbaya of Charlie Kirk's situation.
Or again, summer slam memorial event versus the bottom was what
was taking place after the George Floyd stuff.
Now again, they're, yes, they both were killed, but obviously
2 different situations. But regardless, this goes into
what I'm seeing taking place andI've talked about it a little
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bit before, but more than anything right now, I honestly
see an unbelievable division that is being attempted to be
split even wider open than it already is.
And let me tell you what that division is in in the United
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States. It's the civil war between the
left versus the right. Same thing as always, you know,
liberals versus conservatives and all that.
But now you've got an added layer of this Christian
nationalism. I really see an attempt to to
try and like make America super Christian.
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I don't know if I should say again, I mean, I think it was at
some point, but obviously because of all the diversity in
this country, you know, I don't know if I'd say we're a
Christian nation anymore. And it's funny, in my episode
with Pastor Matt first he said that was a while back ago.
He said we used to be a Christian nation.
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Now we're a Christian Zionist nation and I don't know, man, I,
I, I don't know which direction it's going.
Christian nationalist versus Christian Zionist.
And really the difference is Christian nationalist is going
to be people that, you know, maybe are just all about
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Christianity and America first. Truly Christian Zionists is
going to be people that are all about Christianity, but they
also attach Judaism to it. So it's that Judeo-christian
mentality, you know, and it's it's really the United States
and Israel being being sort of, you know, joined at the hip.
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And, you know, that's what everybody is, is saying.
We are at this point a ChristianZionist nation.
We're not a Christian nationalist nation.
Now the question becomes, are they trying to take us into
Christian nationalism? And if so, this is kind of
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interesting. I mean, if so, is that meaning
they want to detach from the judeo-christian side?
Now, again, when I say they, I'mtalking about the current, you
know, Republican conservative base in the United States, whom,
by the way, is completely attached to the Judeo side.
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So like, I mean, if there ever was 4D chess, this would be it
as a way to, I guess, rally America to just Christianity and
really separating the Judeo side.
I don't know, man. That is that is a unbelievably
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big undertaking. But it's also like, I don't
know, it's wild to think about that because that would mean, I
mean, if that was the case, thatwould mean Trump and the Trump
administration and everybody is really playing 4D chess right
now. And they're trying to get out
from under the thumb of, let's say, Israel and the Netanyahu
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administration to an extent. I don't know, man.
I mean, I mean, listen, you've got to consider all options with
things. And I'll tell you what made me
think about that option, which, by the way, I think not many
people would even remotely agreewith that, and maybe not many
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people would even be able to seethat option.
But what made me think about it is Tucker Carlson, whom was
invited to speak at Charlie Kirk's memorial.
And let's listen to what he said.
God is here and you can feel it.And Charlie would have loved
this, not just because he loved large groups of people, but
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because ultimately he was a Christian evangelist.
And it, it actually reminds me of my favorite story ever.
So it's about 2000 years ago in Jerusalem, and Jesus shows up
and he starts talking about the people in power.
And he starts doing the worst thing that you can do, which is
telling the truth about people. And they hate it.
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And they just go bonkers. They hate it.
And they become obsessed with making him stop.
This guy's got to stop talking. We've got to shut this guy up.
And I can just sort of picture the scene in a lamp lit room
with a bunch of guys sitting around eating hummus, thinking
about what do we do about this guy telling the truth about us.
We must make him stop talking. And there's always one guy with
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the bright idea. And I could just hear him say,
I've got an idea. Why don't we just kill him?
That'll shut him up. That'll fix the problem.
Man his laugh is so goofy. OK, let me break that down for
you guys. And before I do that again, I am
very surprised and this lends I guess a little bit of credence
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to what I, you know, talked about before I played Tucker's
clip in. Is there is there a 4D chess
move going on in the background?Man, if there is, I will be
blown away. But my point is I'm surprised
they even let Tucker speak. OK.
And that is because, again, remember, part of what is going
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on right now and a considerable discussion that is happening
online is, you know, obviously who killed Charlie Kirk.
And, you know, people are not believing the official
narrative. And we'll get into that in a
second. But Tucker, obviously Candace
Owens, we've talked about her, Megyn Kelly, you know, the
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comedian Dave Smith, these are people that, again, have really
come out against the state of Israel.
Remember, let's make everything about the state of Israel and,
and really about the Netanyahu administration more than
anything. This this doesn't have anything
to necessarily do with the people of Israel.
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And I really don't even think ithas to do with Judaism as a
religion. You know what I mean?
This is more about the state of Israel and the political
affiliation and influence that it could have over the United
States. So the fact that Tucker was even
allowed to speak at this thing, I'm very surprised.
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And so if you did not, I guess gather the intent of what he
said, basically he was saying his favorite story is from some
2000 years ago and that's the story of Jesus Christ.
And so if you don't know that man, I am, I am, I am well
versed in Christianity these days.
Obviously, if you ask any, probably like 90% of Christians
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who killed Jesus Christ, they'regoing to say the Jews killed
Jesus Christ. That's what they're going to
say. I mean, you can even Google that
ChatGPT it. That is the resounding answer
most Christians give. OK.
Now, what's interesting about that is, and I've had this
discussion obviously with so many people and then even
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friends of mine, you know, technically the Jews, in my
opinion, at least technically, they did not kill him because
they told the Romans to kill him.
And so it was Romans who I guessput the sword in him to deliver
the kill shot, you know. So again, I mean, you know, from
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an outsider's perspective, technically it was the Romans,
but then they say that it was the, the, the Pharisees, I guess
that's what they're called. Like, I think those were like
the Jewish power base at that time who put pressure on Pontius
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Pilate to kill him. And then Pontius Pilate enabled
or, or basically instructed the Romans to do it.
And it was all because they wereprotecting Tiberius Caesar or
Caesar. Again, I mean, so much semantics
in that. But like I said, if you have any
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real Christian, Catholic friendsor if you are yourself, I'd be
curious, you know, who do you think killed Jesus Christ?
But fundamentally, that narrative of the Jews killing
Jesus Christ is really out therein a major way.
And that's kind of what what Tucker was saying.
He said, hey, my favorite story is the story of Jesus Christ who
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was talking and saying all thesethings.
And so one guy came up with the idea of let's shut them up by
killing them. You know, I want to talk about
the hummus reference as well. But you know what?
Let's listen to this again, because I do want to interject a
few things. So it's about 2000 years ago in
Jerusalem, and Jesus shows up and he starts talking about the
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people in power and he starts doing the worst thing that you
can do, which is telling the truth about people.
OK, so immediately doing the worst thing that you can do,
which is telling the truth aboutpeople, and a lot of people are
saying that's what Charlie was starting to do.
And they hate it and they just go bonkers.
They hate it. And they become obsessed with
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making him stop. This guy's got to stop talking.
OK, They become obsessed. He's got to stop.
This guy's got to stop talking. There's a lot of stuff out there
about how Charlie Kirk was in the Hamptons in July and there
was a big meeting called by a very prominent, prominent either
hedge fund. Yeah, I think it's a hedge fund
guy, Bill Ackman, who's a who's a a very big Jewish billionaire
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Zionist guy that's really close with Netanyahu.
And they put the screws to Charlie at that, at that meeting
in the Hamptons. Now, that's getting vetted by a
variety of people, but there also is the rumor allegedly that
Netanyahu offered Charlie $150 million cash infusion into his
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Turning Point USA and that Charlie turned him down.
So again, listen to everything that Tucker's saying.
This dude is calculated, again, whether you like him or not, he
is highly calculated with the things he says and the analogies
he's brings out. And so both of those so far make
reference to kind of what had taken place with Charlie.
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In the very recent months. We've got to shut this guy up
and I can just sort of picture the scene in a lamp lit room
with a bunch of guys sitting around eating hummus, thinking
about what do we do? OK, so there was an intent to
the eating hummus thing. At first I thought like OK,
isn't hummus more of a Middle Eastern thing than necessarily,
let's say an Israeli Jewish thing?
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So anyway, I asked Chet. GBT gave me a bunch of stuff,
but it netted out as putting it together.
I lean toward this being a codedinsinuation, not just colorful
storytelling. Carlson probably wanted to evoke
modern identity, Israel and Jewswithout naming them, while
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giving his audience enough to fill in the blank.
The goal? Stir suspicion and assign blame
indirectly. OK.
I mean, I think his whole speechwas that, but the hummus part in
particular. About this guy telling the truth
about us. We must make him stop talking.
And there's always one guy with the bright idea and I could just
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hear him say I've got an idea, why don't we just kill him?
I mean, again, remember he's talking about Jesus Christ.
But obviously the parallels and the insinuation, I mean, it was,
it was so obvious to me. Now, I'd be curious if it was
obvious to you. You know it when you're hearing
this. Gosh, maybe with my explanation
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it might be obvious now, but ironically, when I played it the
first time, what did you think? And then what do you think?
Now that we've gone through it asecond time and I've explained
it, do you think that's what hisinsinuation was, or are you
interpreting it differently? Let me know, I'd actually be
interested. That'll shut him up.
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That'll fix the problem. That'll shut him up.
That'll fix the problem. And then that goofy laugh.
OK, so I don't know man, you guys tell me you guys tell me
what you think the interpretation of that was.
Now, here's the thing, the the spin that is now coming out of
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it, and, and this is pretty wild.
Remember back last year when I talk about marketing slogans
that I noticed in politics, for example, referring to Tim Walls
as the happy warrior. Remember that he's a happy
warrior. Happy warrior, happy warrior.
He's a happy warrior. Tim Walls is the happy warrior.
Look, everybody, Tim Walls is the happy warrior.
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Or when Kamala kind of took over, she's going to bring joy
back. Joy, joy.
There's going to be joy. She's bringing joy back to the
country. You know, joy was a big one.
Happy warrior was a big one. Putin's brutal invasion, Putin's
brutal invasion, Putin's brutal invasion.
That was a big one. I mean that that was a big one.
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What else? You know, even flatten the curve
and all those things. Gosh, flatten the curve is
literally the, the three words that that kind of woke me up in
2020. Isn't that funny?
Those 3 words? I was so surprised to hear that
phrase being repeated on every news station and everything.
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It just felt very coordinated. OK.
And so now what's happening on the Republican side now?
Now we're talking about conservative slash Republican.
And again, I'm going to group the Christian base here.
Now I'm not sure if the intent is to move toward Christian
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nationalism. Let's and let's define it like
this. Christian nationalism is just
Christians. Christian Zionism is Christians
plus Judaism. So let's say Christian
nationalism is just the United States.
Christian Zionism is the United States plus Israel.
I don't know, man. I don't know, but I am seeing
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marketing slogans. This is the turning point.
Pay attention to that. I bet you you'll see that
everywhere on the conservative side.
This is the turning point, or this is our turning point.
That's kind of one of the big ones you're hearing a lot about,
You know, Charlie Kirk being a martyr.
He's a martyr. He's a martyr.
That's a little odd to me too. I mean, again, I think obviously
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he, you know, there's a lot of good and a lot of bad on Charlie
Kirk. There just was.
There just was. And that's the truth.
And again, regardless, I'm goingto say it again because I really
feel this like with every ounce of my soul, he deserved to lose
debates. He does not, did not remotely
deserve to lose his life, nor does anyone for giving their
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their opinions on things. OK, All right, let me see if
there's anything else, man. All of a sudden we're at 25
minutes. Let me see if there's anything
else. Actually, you know what?
There are a few other things I want to play for you.
OK? So listen to this lady.
This was on TikTok. And again, when I look at things
to play for you guys, I basically like look for trends
and then I try to find the best clip encapsulating the trend.
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So this is the trend. This is, again, this is wild.
This is coming from conservatives.
There's a ton of these clips andthis lady did the best job of
summing it up. This is probably going to lose a
lot of you, so please, please just listen to me, okay?
I am a card carrying conservative, but something is
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up with the wife, okay? Something is up.
The fact that she had never donea pageant before and just so
happens to get a modeling offer in the mail and then she just so
happened to win Miss Arizona USA2012.
There's something up with the fact that she was 17 and started
a nonprofit where she worked alongside the United States
military in Romania doing work with orphanages at the same
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period that Romania was having one of its largest trafficking
crises in its history. There's also something up with
the fact that she is a licensed real estate agent in the state
of New York and she worked for the same real estate group that
did business with Jeffrey Epstein.
And she was very, very successful on her own before the
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mutual friend set her up for herinterview with Charlie for
Turning Point. And sources are saying that that
friend was President Trump. You guys, she was already
successful. She had this vision.
And now there are rumors that allegedly Netanyahu was going to
free up $150 million of AmericanJewish money to Turning Point
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USA, and Charlie declined it. And you guys, just since
Charlie's death, Turning Point USA has gotten over 18,000
chapter requests across the United States.
I did not hear one mention of Israel or Netanyahu or the
backlash that Charlie had been facing in Erica's speech.
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And today when the Charlie Kirk show was live, none of his
friends or Co workers said one thing about it while they were
all talking about the alleged shooter in Utah.
And you guys, that's something that they should at least clear
up or acknowledge, but they're not talking about it.
And all rabbit holes lead to thesame place.
So please think critically aboutthis and God bless.
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All right, that was a good recapmoving into Erica Kirk the wife
and you know, for now I'm just going to say I don't know, man.
I get weird vibes from her. I really do.
It's just everything is super SUS for me with her.
I just get weird vibes and it goes to, you know, her whole
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back story, which obviously I didn't even know much about
that. My weird vibes just come from,
you know, her posting a video ofher and the casket.
I think I talked about this lastweek, the the video that went
crazy viral where people were like, it doesn't even look like
real hands. They look like rubber hands.
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She showed Charlie's hands. That was weird.
Just doing that process is weirdbecause again, you know, when
you see these crazy clips on social media, whether it's
Instagram or Facebook or whatever, or TikTok, if it's
something crazy, think about what it took to film that.
It's like, hey, hey, hey, OK, get turn the camera on.
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Do me a favor, film me grieving over my dead husband's casket.
Like it's just weird. It's just weird, honestly.
You know, I'll share something incredibly personal.
When our dad passed away and on the day of his funeral,
obviously we went to the, the the Mortuary to kind of, I guess
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see him one final time before they closed the coffin.
And then we took the coffin to the cemetery.
And again, I remember, I remember him inside the coffin
and we put, you know, a bunch ofthings in there with them and,
you know, memorabilia and keepsakes and just really
personal things. And I remember thinking to
myself, should I take a picture of this or not?
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And I didn't, I didn't take a picture of him in that coffin
because I just didn't want that.I mean, I guess I have the
memory of it burned in my brain,but I didn't want the photo of
it. I just didn't.
I thought to myself, you know what?
That's just, I don't, I don't know, is something off about
that? There was something off about
that for me. I just felt very strange taking
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a photo of him. And so I did not do that.
You know, obviously I have the memory of them, but you know
what's interesting? Even the memory of that image of
him, I mean, I can kind of picture it, but I can't say I
can picture it clear as day anymore.
What I picture clear as day is more, you know, the various
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photos I have of him around, around my house or on my, you
know, screen on my phone or my laptop or whatever.
And it's, and that's kind of howI want to remember him.
You know, I, I'd rather remember, you know, the photo of
me, him and my brother with our arms around each other versus
necessarily remembering the image of him in that coffin.
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So I'm actually really glad I didn't take that.
Now, again, you know, obviously Erica Kirk did not show him in
the coffin. But my point is, think about
what it took to film that video of her standing over him saying
the things she did. I don't know.
It's just weird to me. It's very strange.
And then to post that personal of a, a video on social media I
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thought was odd. Honestly, what I would have done
in that situation is I think it's totally appropriate to have
posted a picture of the closed coffin and just a picture and
you can even have yourself standing by it.
I think that would have been appropriate.
But an open casket, I keep saying coughing, maybe I meant
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to say casket, the open casket. And then you showing his hands
and then kind of narrating over top of that.
I found that strange. And then there were a lot of
strange things at, you know, again, the summer slam memorial
event. There were fireworks.
There were, it was just goofy, man.
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It was goofy. And then the other thing is, you
know, they didn't let his parents talk.
I would have liked to have heardfrom his parents.
He has a sister. I would like to have heard from
her. Now, maybe they didn't want to
talk again, I don't know. But the list of speakers that
that spoke, it felt more like a a rah, rah MAGA Trump
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administration rally than necessarily a memorial event.
I mean, it really did you know you had Robert F Kennedy junior,
who else? Don Junior, Tulsi Gabbard, like,
like people from the administration.
Again, the only person I think outside of the administration
might have been Tucker Carlson and maybe his pastor or somebody
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else on the religious side, but I don't know.
It came off. It came off very inauthentic to
me. It just was not what I'd expect.
And again, like I said, there's fireworks going on.
There's like sparklers being shot off.
You know, they turned it into anevent necessarily and not
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necessarily really a memorial. ServiceNow maybe it wasn't
supposed to be a memorial service.
I don't know. Obviously, I don't think that
was the official funeral. Like I don't think afterwards a
group of people went to the cemetery and they buried them.
I'm sure they either had the funeral, maybe they had the
funeral on on last Saturday or gosh, what was it?
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Is it even been? Oh my God, this has been like a
crazy four or five days. Anyway, just a lot of SUS vibes
on all that. It really was a lot of SUS
vibes. OK, let me see if I have
anything else. Well, you know what?
I did want to talk about this. OK, so the current story about
the bullets, by the way, everyone's like, well, where's
the bullet? Where's the bullet?
You know, there's no exit wound.OK, with Charlie, there was no
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exit wound. If you actually watched the the
original video, it looked like just something hit him in the
the middle section of his neck. And then all of a sudden blood
started gushing out of that. But all of these, all of these
hunters and snipers and militaryguys, I mean, there's a ton of
these. A lot of people are saying that
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was the exit wound, okay, not the entry wound.
Now, again, on that one, super grainy, you know, iPhone 1
video, which that's another SUS thing.
I actually put a video out whereit shows, it shows directly.
There were high resolution cameras pointed right at Charlie
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and right at his neck, maybe 1520 feet away.
I'm talking like SLR, professional high resolution
cameras. Where's that footage?
That footage should have captured exactly what happened
and that footage is not released.
Instead the only footage they that we've seen is like super
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grainy iPhone 1 footage. I'm kidding about the iPhone
one. That's like a joke I like to
make in terms of the old school iPhones or something being
super, super not polished and high resolution.
The way these current iPhones really probably anything post
iPhone 7 shoots in like incredibly high, high
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resolution. But that stuff is weird to me as
well. But now they came out and they
said that the bullet which came from, you know, they call it a
30 Aug 6. And that's from that Hauser
rifle. All of these hunters have gone
online and said that is a ridiculously powerful piece of
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ammunition. And had that gone through his
neck, it would have practically,it would have blown a hole out
of the other side and, you know,practically decapitated them.
Like literally like like shot off half of his neck where
instead there's no exit wound and they haven't been able to
necessarily locate the bullet until Saturday night.
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I believe his his like producer and best friend.
I don't know if his was his bestfriend, actually, but this
Andrew Clavon or something like that, this guy came out and said
he spoke to the surgeon and thatCharlie's bones were so healthy
they stopped the bullet, and then they started referring to
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Charlie in the news releases as the Man of Steel.
Let me read this because this ispretty insane.
All right? The guy's name is Andrew
Colvitt, He said. I want to address some of the
discussion about the lack of an exit wound with Charlie.
I'm not usually interested in delving into most of this kind
of online chatter, and I apologize this is somewhat
(36:39):
graphic, but in this case, the fact that there wasn't an exit
wound is probably another miracle and I want people to
know. I just spoke with the surgeon
who worked on Charlie in the hospital.
He said the bullet quote absolutely should have gone
through, which is very, very normal for a high-powered, high
velocity round. I've seen wounds from this
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caliber many times and they always just go through
everything. This would have taken a moose or
two down or an elk, etcetera. OK.
But it didn't go through. Charlie's body stopped it.
I mentioned to his doctor that there were dozens of staff
students and special guests standing directly behind Charlie
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on the other side of the tent. And he replied, quote, it was an
absolute miracle that someone else didn't get killed.
End Quote. And then another quote.
His bone was so healthy and the density was so impressive that
he's like the Man of Steel. It should have just gone through
and through. It likely would have killed
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those standing behind him too. On End Quote.
In the end, the coroner did findthe bullet just beneath the
skin. Even in death, Charlie managed
to save the lives of those around him.
Remarkable. Miraculous.
So that's the official statementfrom Turning Point USA.
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I mean, you really need to decide what you think about that
and whether that is super SUS ornot.
I am going to go with the Super SUS on that statement.
And based on all the reviews from, you know, skilled hunters
and also military people, there is no chance that that bullet
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could have stayed in his throat.Like, no chance at all.
It would have gone through. And then the exit wound on the
other side would have been massive to where they're saying
it would have literally, like, practically taken out half of
his neck. Now, Candace Owens supposedly
saw the video that got taken down from the camera that was
(38:50):
directly behind him. And all I'll say is she
basically said there was no blood seen from the back.
And therefore, again, that bullet, if it came from the
front, if it came from that sniper or if it came from Tyler
Robinson on that roof and that was what the shot really was,
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then it did stay in his neck andstick in his neck.
But this is where people are saying that's not possible.
So now they obviously are questioning whether it was Tyler
Robinson from 200 yards out on aroof with a meat cleaver in the
solarium. I try to like, I try to remember
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that game clue. I try to remember something from
that. But I don't think I did a good
job anyway. All right, that's it. 40
minutes. These are things that you need
to kind of think about. And again, I mean, it's more
than anything right now for me. I'm trying to figure out what is
the, what is the intent moving forward and what is what is
(39:59):
wanting to be done moving forward.
And what I'll say is the two major divisions, I'm saying, I'm
going to keep repeating this left versus right, civil war in
the United States. They're going to keep hammering
that and try to bust that wide open.
And then again, kind of like I talked even on the episode on
Friday with Canyon Mims, the the, the Muslim convert young
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kid, you know? Islam versus Christianity and
dividing Muslims and Christians where fundamentally that's 2.5
billion people and 2.1 billion people globally and trying to
make them hate each other when in in reality, they actually
love each other and they have a tremendous amount of in common,
including both of them considering Jesus Christ, the
(40:44):
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OK, let's go. Every conversation about how the
Trump administration is doing has to begin with the fact that
there was no alternative. I don't know if you voted for
(00:22):
him any other times. This was my first time and I got
to say, even though I don't think my expectations were
extremely lofty as of now, I feel relatively disappointed
with the outcome. I'm curious what your grades are
for him. I know that you were kind of
more in alignment with him because of probably RFK junior
(00:42):
and maybe Tulsi or something like that.
What are your thoughts? I am confused by what I see.
Me too. I am completely comfortable with
having voted for Trump. It was my first time because of
the apocalypse that was represented by the blue ticket.
(01:06):
True, and so I just don't think there was any rational choice.
We had an absolute emergency on our hands and this simple
ability to vote for something that was in some way authentic
made it the only game in town. Hey, what's up, everybody?
(01:26):
Happy Tuesday. Hey, sorry for getting this out
a little bit late, but anyway, OK, Hope you guys had a great
weekend, all that jazz. What did I want to talk about?
All right, we're going to talk about a bunch of things today
and just kind of see the direction that this takes.
This is a guy named Brett Weinstein.
I think I've played him before on the podcast, potentially.
He has a brother named Eric Weinstein.
(01:47):
I actually really like both of these guys.
They're really, they're pretty good.
I like Brett more than I like Eric and I'm trying to get him
on the podcast. So we'll see if we can make that
happen. But you know, I wanted to start
out with this clip because I've been wanting to talk about this
for a while and it's really, youknow, the, what's going on with
the Trump administration. We're going to, we're going to
go into Charlie Kirk a little bit more today as well.
(02:10):
Because if you did not see, you know, it's interesting.
It's like I, I've got like 2 sets of friends right now or two
groups. I've got ones that are like
ultra obsessed over everything. And so like whenever an episode
comes out or really anything, it's we're chatting on text, DM
on Instagram, DM on Facebook. I've got one friend, I'm not
(02:33):
going to mention her name. She is hilarious.
Like within within an hour I'll get like a text message from her
Adm on Instagram and then Adm onFacebook and then Adm on TikTok.
I'll be like, Oh my God, we're like communicating across every
every possible platform. So I've got that group of
friends and then I've got another group that just is not
(02:54):
into anything. And so, hey, you know what,
hopefully listening to this episode will will meet both of
those needs because it'll go a little bit deeper for the folks
that are paying attention and then at least give the folks
that are not paying attention a good, you know, a good top line
of what's going on. But I wanted to play Brett's
(03:14):
clip in terms of the Trump administration.
And there's a little bit more because, you know, here we are,
you know, gosh, maybe, what, 8 months, 8 months in?
And, you know, I, I got to be honest, a good chunk of America,
myself included, is just like, what is going on?
What, what did we end up getting?
(03:37):
You know, it's kind of like voting for one thing and then
completely getting something else.
And man, there is a growing, growing voice on social media
that that is echoing that same sentiment.
And, you know, that was a littlebit on display at the Charlie
Kirk, you know, summer slam funeral event, which I'll talk
(04:01):
about in a little bit. But let's listen to a little bit
of the rest of this from Brett, because I think he does a really
nice job of, you know, kind of kind of encapsulating what many
people are feeling and and what he talked about in the beginning
of that segment. You know, he was right.
It was like what a mess from theDemocrat side, you know, not
(04:22):
only the past four years, from 2020 to 2024, but just the way
all of that went down with, you know, Biden, you know, stepping
down at the last minute, them not even having a real primary,
trying to slide Kamala into that.
You know, the they all of that stuff was just a mess.
And even with all that, I forgetwhat the voting was, but it, it
(04:46):
definitely was closer than I thought.
But you know, it's, it's let's let's let's take the jump off
point from what he said, as I really didn't feel like I had
another choice. I just wanted to kind of go in
another direction and vote for what at the time I consider the
(05:06):
lesser of two evils. OK, now let's listen to the
rest. Now, As for what is transpiring
under the Trump administration, I am aware that there is a
labyrinth of power and a hidden priority list.
The administration presumably has things it wants to
(05:28):
accomplish. The labyrinth of power sets the
ground rules as to what can be accomplished at what rate, and
in exchange for what. I know I'm not Privy to that.
And so the real question is, howdoes this stack up compared to
what was possible given the cards that President Trump held
(05:50):
on inauguration? And I don't think any of us are
in a position to answer that. So, you know, is the
disappointment the result of thefact that the constraints on the
president are greater than we hoped and maybe imagined?
Are they the result of the priorities not being the
(06:12):
represented priorities? Undoubtedly that plays some
role. But, you know, again, in light
of what was, you know, we had President Biden was not the
president in the meaningful sense of that would be Medicare
for them to have attempted to run him again.
And then at the point that that became implausible, to swap in
(06:36):
an empty shirt is such a dire commentary on the state of the
Republic that I think every conversation about how the Trump
administration is doing has to begin with the fact that there
was no alternative. All right, I think that was
incredibly well said. And you know, the most
interesting part is it sounds like that was Brett.
(06:58):
I don't know who he was talking to, but you know, a couple guys
that you know, we're not Team Trump guys or like always Trump
guys or Trump worship syndrome guys.
But again, there, there's no alternative.
So now here we are, here we are.And it's like, what is going on?
All right, let me tell you, Let me shoot some real talk at you
(07:19):
and and just tell you what I seehappening.
And it was on full display on Sunday at Charlie Kirk's.
Again, I call it like his summerslam memorial service, which was
insane. I mean, it was insane.
Now let's start with the good. You know, it was a nice
(07:41):
gathering of people that obviously were there to pay
their respects to, to Charlie. And again, I completely respect
that 100%. You know, from everything that I
saw videos and all of that, obviously it was it was
peaceful. There wasn't any looting, there
wasn't any craziness and all that.
(08:02):
So the Republican slash conservative slash Christian
base of America is basically, you know, saying, hey, look,
this is how we do it. This is how we celebrate slash
grieve. You know, we're not setting cars
on fire, we're not looting cities, we're not looting small
(08:24):
businesses. And again, that is, that is
creating the the division between the left versus right.
They're obviously referring to, you know, things like the Black
Lives Matters movement and all the things that took place when
George Floyd got killed back in 2020.
Man, that is insane that that was so long ago.
(08:46):
I think that was 2020. Yeah.
That was 20. Was that 2020?
Yeah, that was 2020. Hold on, let me look.
Yeah, He died on May 25th, 2020.That's insane.
Doesn't that feel like yesterday?
It really feels like yesterday. But obviously what took place
there, you know, you had a bunchof videos on especially
Instagram of, you know, the top of the screen was kind of the
(09:09):
peace love kumbaya of Charlie Kirk's situation.
Or again, summer slam memorial event versus the bottom was what
was taking place after the George Floyd stuff.
Now again, they're, yes, they both were killed, but obviously
2 different situations. But regardless, this goes into
what I'm seeing taking place andI've talked about it a little
(09:32):
bit before, but more than anything right now, I honestly
see an unbelievable division that is being attempted to be
split even wider open than it already is.
And let me tell you what that division is in in the United
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States. It's the civil war between the
left versus the right. Same thing as always, you know,
liberals versus conservatives and all that.
But now you've got an added layer of this Christian
nationalism. I really see an attempt to to
try and like make America super Christian.
(10:15):
I don't know if I should say again, I mean, I think it was at
some point, but obviously because of all the diversity in
this country, you know, I don't know if I'd say we're a
Christian nation anymore. And it's funny, in my episode
with Pastor Matt first he said that was a while back ago.
He said we used to be a Christian nation.
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Now we're a Christian Zionist nation and I don't know, man, I,
I, I don't know which direction it's going.
Christian nationalist versus Christian Zionist.
And really the difference is Christian nationalist is going
to be people that, you know, maybe are just all about
(10:59):
Christianity and America first. Truly Christian Zionists is
going to be people that are all about Christianity, but they
also attach Judaism to it. So it's that Judeo-christian
mentality, you know, and it's it's really the United States
and Israel being being sort of, you know, joined at the hip.
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And, you know, that's what everybody is, is saying.
We are at this point a ChristianZionist nation.
We're not a Christian nationalist nation.
Now the question becomes, are they trying to take us into
Christian nationalism? And if so, this is kind of
(11:43):
interesting. I mean, if so, is that meaning
they want to detach from the judeo-christian side?
Now, again, when I say they, I'mtalking about the current, you
know, Republican conservative base in the United States, whom,
by the way, is completely attached to the Judeo side.
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So like, I mean, if there ever was 4D chess, this would be it
as a way to, I guess, rally America to just Christianity and
really separating the Judeo side.
I don't know, man. That is that is a unbelievably
(12:33):
big undertaking. But it's also like, I don't
know, it's wild to think about that because that would mean, I
mean, if that was the case, thatwould mean Trump and the Trump
administration and everybody is really playing 4D chess right
now. And they're trying to get out
from under the thumb of, let's say, Israel and the Netanyahu
(12:57):
administration to an extent. I don't know, man.
I mean, I mean, listen, you've got to consider all options with
things. And I'll tell you what made me
think about that option, which, by the way, I think not many
people would even remotely agreewith that, and maybe not many
(13:18):
people would even be able to seethat option.
But what made me think about it is Tucker Carlson, whom was
invited to speak at Charlie Kirk's memorial.
And let's listen to what he said.
God is here and you can feel it.And Charlie would have loved
this, not just because he loved large groups of people, but
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because ultimately he was a Christian evangelist.
And it, it actually reminds me of my favorite story ever.
So it's about 2000 years ago in Jerusalem, and Jesus shows up
and he starts talking about the people in power.
And he starts doing the worst thing that you can do, which is
telling the truth about people. And they hate it.
(14:03):
And they just go bonkers. They hate it.
And they become obsessed with making him stop.
This guy's got to stop talking. We've got to shut this guy up.
And I can just sort of picture the scene in a lamp lit room
with a bunch of guys sitting around eating hummus, thinking
about what do we do about this guy telling the truth about us.
We must make him stop talking. And there's always one guy with
(14:26):
the bright idea. And I could just hear him say,
I've got an idea. Why don't we just kill him?
That'll shut him up. That'll fix the problem.
Man his laugh is so goofy. OK, let me break that down for
you guys. And before I do that again, I am
very surprised and this lends I guess a little bit of credence
(14:52):
to what I, you know, talked about before I played Tucker's
clip in. Is there is there a 4D chess
move going on in the background?Man, if there is, I will be
blown away. But my point is I'm surprised
they even let Tucker speak. OK.
And that is because, again, remember, part of what is going
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on right now and a considerable discussion that is happening
online is, you know, obviously who killed Charlie Kirk.
And, you know, people are not believing the official
narrative. And we'll get into that in a
second. But Tucker, obviously Candace
Owens, we've talked about her, Megyn Kelly, you know, the
(15:37):
comedian Dave Smith, these are people that, again, have really
come out against the state of Israel.
Remember, let's make everything about the state of Israel and,
and really about the Netanyahu administration more than
anything. This this doesn't have anything
to necessarily do with the people of Israel.
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And I really don't even think ithas to do with Judaism as a
religion. You know what I mean?
This is more about the state of Israel and the political
affiliation and influence that it could have over the United
States. So the fact that Tucker was even
allowed to speak at this thing, I'm very surprised.
(16:20):
And so if you did not, I guess gather the intent of what he
said, basically he was saying his favorite story is from some
2000 years ago and that's the story of Jesus Christ.
And so if you don't know that man, I am, I am, I am well
versed in Christianity these days.
Obviously, if you ask any, probably like 90% of Christians
(16:48):
who killed Jesus Christ, they'regoing to say the Jews killed
Jesus Christ. That's what they're going to
say. I mean, you can even Google that
ChatGPT it. That is the resounding answer
most Christians give. OK.
Now, what's interesting about that is, and I've had this
discussion obviously with so many people and then even
(17:08):
friends of mine, you know, technically the Jews, in my
opinion, at least technically, they did not kill him because
they told the Romans to kill him.
And so it was Romans who I guessput the sword in him to deliver
the kill shot, you know. So again, I mean, you know, from
(17:32):
an outsider's perspective, technically it was the Romans,
but then they say that it was the, the, the Pharisees, I guess
that's what they're called. Like, I think those were like
the Jewish power base at that time who put pressure on Pontius
(17:54):
Pilate to kill him. And then Pontius Pilate enabled
or, or basically instructed the Romans to do it.
And it was all because they wereprotecting Tiberius Caesar or
Caesar. Again, I mean, so much semantics
in that. But like I said, if you have any
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real Christian, Catholic friendsor if you are yourself, I'd be
curious, you know, who do you think killed Jesus Christ?
But fundamentally, that narrative of the Jews killing
Jesus Christ is really out therein a major way.
And that's kind of what what Tucker was saying.
He said, hey, my favorite story is the story of Jesus Christ who
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was talking and saying all thesethings.
And so one guy came up with the idea of let's shut them up by
killing them. You know, I want to talk about
the hummus reference as well. But you know what?
Let's listen to this again, because I do want to interject a
few things. So it's about 2000 years ago in
Jerusalem, and Jesus shows up and he starts talking about the
(18:58):
people in power and he starts doing the worst thing that you
can do, which is telling the truth about people.
OK, so immediately doing the worst thing that you can do,
which is telling the truth aboutpeople, and a lot of people are
saying that's what Charlie was starting to do.
And they hate it and they just go bonkers.
They hate it. And they become obsessed with
(19:19):
making him stop. This guy's got to stop talking.
OK, They become obsessed. He's got to stop.
This guy's got to stop talking. There's a lot of stuff out there
about how Charlie Kirk was in the Hamptons in July and there
was a big meeting called by a very prominent, prominent either
hedge fund. Yeah, I think it's a hedge fund
guy, Bill Ackman, who's a who's a a very big Jewish billionaire
(19:43):
Zionist guy that's really close with Netanyahu.
And they put the screws to Charlie at that, at that meeting
in the Hamptons. Now, that's getting vetted by a
variety of people, but there also is the rumor allegedly that
Netanyahu offered Charlie $150 million cash infusion into his
(20:05):
Turning Point USA and that Charlie turned him down.
So again, listen to everything that Tucker's saying.
This dude is calculated, again, whether you like him or not, he
is highly calculated with the things he says and the analogies
he's brings out. And so both of those so far make
reference to kind of what had taken place with Charlie.
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In the very recent months. We've got to shut this guy up
and I can just sort of picture the scene in a lamp lit room
with a bunch of guys sitting around eating hummus, thinking
about what do we do? OK, so there was an intent to
the eating hummus thing. At first I thought like OK,
isn't hummus more of a Middle Eastern thing than necessarily,
let's say an Israeli Jewish thing?
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So anyway, I asked Chet. GBT gave me a bunch of stuff,
but it netted out as putting it together.
I lean toward this being a codedinsinuation, not just colorful
storytelling. Carlson probably wanted to evoke
modern identity, Israel and Jewswithout naming them, while
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giving his audience enough to fill in the blank.
The goal? Stir suspicion and assign blame
indirectly. OK.
I mean, I think his whole speechwas that, but the hummus part in
particular. About this guy telling the truth
about us. We must make him stop talking.
And there's always one guy with the bright idea and I could just
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hear him say I've got an idea, why don't we just kill him?
I mean, again, remember he's talking about Jesus Christ.
But obviously the parallels and the insinuation, I mean, it was,
it was so obvious to me. Now, I'd be curious if it was
obvious to you. You know it when you're hearing
this. Gosh, maybe with my explanation
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it might be obvious now, but ironically, when I played it the
first time, what did you think? And then what do you think?
Now that we've gone through it asecond time and I've explained
it, do you think that's what hisinsinuation was, or are you
interpreting it differently? Let me know, I'd actually be
interested. That'll shut him up.
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That'll fix the problem. That'll shut him up.
That'll fix the problem. And then that goofy laugh.
OK, so I don't know man, you guys tell me you guys tell me
what you think the interpretation of that was.
Now, here's the thing, the the spin that is now coming out of
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it, and, and this is pretty wild.
Remember back last year when I talk about marketing slogans
that I noticed in politics, for example, referring to Tim Walls
as the happy warrior. Remember that he's a happy
warrior. Happy warrior, happy warrior.
He's a happy warrior. Tim Walls is the happy warrior.
Look, everybody, Tim Walls is the happy warrior.
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Or when Kamala kind of took over, she's going to bring joy
back. Joy, joy.
There's going to be joy. She's bringing joy back to the
country. You know, joy was a big one.
Happy warrior was a big one. Putin's brutal invasion, Putin's
brutal invasion, Putin's brutal invasion.
That was a big one. I mean that that was a big one.
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What else? You know, even flatten the curve
and all those things. Gosh, flatten the curve is
literally the, the three words that that kind of woke me up in
2020. Isn't that funny?
Those 3 words? I was so surprised to hear that
phrase being repeated on every news station and everything.
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It just felt very coordinated. OK.
And so now what's happening on the Republican side now?
Now we're talking about conservative slash Republican.
And again, I'm going to group the Christian base here.
Now I'm not sure if the intent is to move toward Christian
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nationalism. Let's and let's define it like
this. Christian nationalism is just
Christians. Christian Zionism is Christians
plus Judaism. So let's say Christian
nationalism is just the United States.
Christian Zionism is the United States plus Israel.
I don't know, man. I don't know, but I am seeing
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marketing slogans. This is the turning point.
Pay attention to that. I bet you you'll see that
everywhere on the conservative side.
This is the turning point, or this is our turning point.
That's kind of one of the big ones you're hearing a lot about,
You know, Charlie Kirk being a martyr.
He's a martyr. He's a martyr.
That's a little odd to me too. I mean, again, I think obviously
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he, you know, there's a lot of good and a lot of bad on Charlie
Kirk. There just was.
There just was. And that's the truth.
And again, regardless, I'm goingto say it again because I really
feel this like with every ounce of my soul, he deserved to lose
debates. He does not, did not remotely
deserve to lose his life, nor does anyone for giving their
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their opinions on things. OK, All right, let me see if
there's anything else, man. All of a sudden we're at 25
minutes. Let me see if there's anything
else. Actually, you know what?
There are a few other things I want to play for you.
OK? So listen to this lady.
This was on TikTok. And again, when I look at things
to play for you guys, I basically like look for trends
and then I try to find the best clip encapsulating the trend.
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So this is the trend. This is, again, this is wild.
This is coming from conservatives.
There's a ton of these clips andthis lady did the best job of
summing it up. This is probably going to lose a
lot of you, so please, please just listen to me, okay?
I am a card carrying conservative, but something is
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up with the wife, okay? Something is up.
The fact that she had never donea pageant before and just so
happens to get a modeling offer in the mail and then she just so
happened to win Miss Arizona USA2012.
There's something up with the fact that she was 17 and started
a nonprofit where she worked alongside the United States
military in Romania doing work with orphanages at the same
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period that Romania was having one of its largest trafficking
crises in its history. There's also something up with
the fact that she is a licensed real estate agent in the state
of New York and she worked for the same real estate group that
did business with Jeffrey Epstein.
And she was very, very successful on her own before the
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mutual friend set her up for herinterview with Charlie for
Turning Point. And sources are saying that that
friend was President Trump. You guys, she was already
successful. She had this vision.
And now there are rumors that allegedly Netanyahu was going to
free up $150 million of AmericanJewish money to Turning Point
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USA, and Charlie declined it. And you guys, just since
Charlie's death, Turning Point USA has gotten over 18,000
chapter requests across the United States.
I did not hear one mention of Israel or Netanyahu or the
backlash that Charlie had been facing in Erica's speech.
(27:23):
And today when the Charlie Kirk show was live, none of his
friends or Co workers said one thing about it while they were
all talking about the alleged shooter in Utah.
And you guys, that's something that they should at least clear
up or acknowledge, but they're not talking about it.
And all rabbit holes lead to thesame place.
So please think critically aboutthis and God bless.
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All right, that was a good recapmoving into Erica Kirk the wife
and you know, for now I'm just going to say I don't know, man.
I get weird vibes from her. I really do.
It's just everything is super SUS for me with her.
I just get weird vibes and it goes to, you know, her whole
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back story, which obviously I didn't even know much about
that. My weird vibes just come from,
you know, her posting a video ofher and the casket.
I think I talked about this lastweek, the the video that went
crazy viral where people were like, it doesn't even look like
real hands. They look like rubber hands.
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She showed Charlie's hands. That was weird.
Just doing that process is weirdbecause again, you know, when
you see these crazy clips on social media, whether it's
Instagram or Facebook or whatever, or TikTok, if it's
something crazy, think about what it took to film that.
It's like, hey, hey, hey, OK, get turn the camera on.
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Do me a favor, film me grieving over my dead husband's casket.
Like it's just weird. It's just weird, honestly.
You know, I'll share something incredibly personal.
When our dad passed away and on the day of his funeral,
obviously we went to the, the the Mortuary to kind of, I guess
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see him one final time before they closed the coffin.
And then we took the coffin to the cemetery.
And again, I remember, I remember him inside the coffin
and we put, you know, a bunch ofthings in there with them and,
you know, memorabilia and keepsakes and just really
personal things. And I remember thinking to
myself, should I take a picture of this or not?
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And I didn't, I didn't take a picture of him in that coffin
because I just didn't want that.I mean, I guess I have the
memory of it burned in my brain,but I didn't want the photo of
it. I just didn't.
I thought to myself, you know what?
That's just, I don't, I don't know, is something off about
that? There was something off about
that for me. I just felt very strange taking
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a photo of him. And so I did not do that.
You know, obviously I have the memory of them, but you know
what's interesting? Even the memory of that image of
him, I mean, I can kind of picture it, but I can't say I
can picture it clear as day anymore.
What I picture clear as day is more, you know, the various
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photos I have of him around, around my house or on my, you
know, screen on my phone or my laptop or whatever.
And it's, and that's kind of howI want to remember him.
You know, I, I'd rather remember, you know, the photo of
me, him and my brother with our arms around each other versus
necessarily remembering the image of him in that coffin.
(30:38):
So I'm actually really glad I didn't take that.
Now, again, you know, obviously Erica Kirk did not show him in
the coffin. But my point is, think about
what it took to film that video of her standing over him saying
the things she did. I don't know.
It's just weird to me. It's very strange.
And then to post that personal of a, a video on social media I
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thought was odd. Honestly, what I would have done
in that situation is I think it's totally appropriate to have
posted a picture of the closed coffin and just a picture and
you can even have yourself standing by it.
I think that would have been appropriate.
But an open casket, I keep saying coughing, maybe I meant
(31:27):
to say casket, the open casket. And then you showing his hands
and then kind of narrating over top of that.
I found that strange. And then there were a lot of
strange things at, you know, again, the summer slam memorial
event. There were fireworks.
There were, it was just goofy, man.
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It was goofy. And then the other thing is, you
know, they didn't let his parents talk.
I would have liked to have heardfrom his parents.
He has a sister. I would like to have heard from
her. Now, maybe they didn't want to
talk again, I don't know. But the list of speakers that
that spoke, it felt more like a a rah, rah MAGA Trump
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administration rally than necessarily a memorial event.
I mean, it really did you know you had Robert F Kennedy junior,
who else? Don Junior, Tulsi Gabbard, like,
like people from the administration.
Again, the only person I think outside of the administration
might have been Tucker Carlson and maybe his pastor or somebody
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else on the religious side, but I don't know.
It came off. It came off very inauthentic to
me. It just was not what I'd expect.
And again, like I said, there's fireworks going on.
There's like sparklers being shot off.
You know, they turned it into anevent necessarily and not
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necessarily really a memorial. ServiceNow maybe it wasn't
supposed to be a memorial service.
I don't know. Obviously, I don't think that
was the official funeral. Like I don't think afterwards a
group of people went to the cemetery and they buried them.
I'm sure they either had the funeral, maybe they had the
funeral on on last Saturday or gosh, what was it?
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Is it even been? Oh my God, this has been like a
crazy four or five days. Anyway, just a lot of SUS vibes
on all that. It really was a lot of SUS
vibes. OK, let me see if I have
anything else. Well, you know what?
I did want to talk about this. OK, so the current story about
the bullets, by the way, everyone's like, well, where's
the bullet? Where's the bullet?
You know, there's no exit wound.OK, with Charlie, there was no
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exit wound. If you actually watched the the
original video, it looked like just something hit him in the
the middle section of his neck. And then all of a sudden blood
started gushing out of that. But all of these, all of these
hunters and snipers and militaryguys, I mean, there's a ton of
these. A lot of people are saying that
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was the exit wound, okay, not the entry wound.
Now, again, on that one, super grainy, you know, iPhone 1
video, which that's another SUS thing.
I actually put a video out whereit shows, it shows directly.
There were high resolution cameras pointed right at Charlie
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and right at his neck, maybe 1520 feet away.
I'm talking like SLR, professional high resolution
cameras. Where's that footage?
That footage should have captured exactly what happened
and that footage is not released.
Instead the only footage they that we've seen is like super
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grainy iPhone 1 footage. I'm kidding about the iPhone
one. That's like a joke I like to
make in terms of the old school iPhones or something being
super, super not polished and high resolution.
The way these current iPhones really probably anything post
iPhone 7 shoots in like incredibly high, high
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resolution. But that stuff is weird to me as
well. But now they came out and they
said that the bullet which came from, you know, they call it a
30 Aug 6. And that's from that Hauser
rifle. All of these hunters have gone
online and said that is a ridiculously powerful piece of
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ammunition. And had that gone through his
neck, it would have practically,it would have blown a hole out
of the other side and, you know,practically decapitated them.
Like literally like like shot off half of his neck where
instead there's no exit wound and they haven't been able to
necessarily locate the bullet until Saturday night.
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I believe his his like producer and best friend.
I don't know if his was his bestfriend, actually, but this
Andrew Clavon or something like that, this guy came out and said
he spoke to the surgeon and thatCharlie's bones were so healthy
they stopped the bullet, and then they started referring to
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Charlie in the news releases as the Man of Steel.
Let me read this because this ispretty insane.
All right? The guy's name is Andrew
Colvitt, He said. I want to address some of the
discussion about the lack of an exit wound with Charlie.
I'm not usually interested in delving into most of this kind
of online chatter, and I apologize this is somewhat
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graphic, but in this case, the fact that there wasn't an exit
wound is probably another miracle and I want people to
know. I just spoke with the surgeon
who worked on Charlie in the hospital.
He said the bullet quote absolutely should have gone
through, which is very, very normal for a high-powered, high
velocity round. I've seen wounds from this
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caliber many times and they always just go through
everything. This would have taken a moose or
two down or an elk, etcetera. OK.
But it didn't go through. Charlie's body stopped it.
I mentioned to his doctor that there were dozens of staff
students and special guests standing directly behind Charlie
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on the other side of the tent. And he replied, quote, it was an
absolute miracle that someone else didn't get killed.
End Quote. And then another quote.
His bone was so healthy and the density was so impressive that
he's like the Man of Steel. It should have just gone through
and through. It likely would have killed
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those standing behind him too. On End Quote.
In the end, the coroner did findthe bullet just beneath the
skin. Even in death, Charlie managed
to save the lives of those around him.
Remarkable. Miraculous.
So that's the official statementfrom Turning Point USA.
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I mean, you really need to decide what you think about that
and whether that is super SUS ornot.
I am going to go with the Super SUS on that statement.
And based on all the reviews from, you know, skilled hunters
and also military people, there is no chance that that bullet
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could have stayed in his throat.Like, no chance at all.
It would have gone through. And then the exit wound on the
other side would have been massive to where they're saying
it would have literally, like, practically taken out half of
his neck. Now, Candace Owens supposedly
saw the video that got taken down from the camera that was
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directly behind him. And all I'll say is she
basically said there was no blood seen from the back.
And therefore, again, that bullet, if it came from the
front, if it came from that sniper or if it came from Tyler
Robinson on that roof and that was what the shot really was,
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then it did stay in his neck andstick in his neck.
But this is where people are saying that's not possible.
So now they obviously are questioning whether it was Tyler
Robinson from 200 yards out on aroof with a meat cleaver in the
solarium. I try to like, I try to remember
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that game clue. I try to remember something from
that. But I don't think I did a good
job anyway. All right, that's it. 40
minutes. These are things that you need
to kind of think about. And again, I mean, it's more
than anything right now for me. I'm trying to figure out what is
the, what is the intent moving forward and what is what is
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wanting to be done moving forward.
And what I'll say is the two major divisions, I'm saying, I'm
going to keep repeating this left versus right, civil war in
the United States. They're going to keep hammering
that and try to bust that wide open.
And then again, kind of like I talked even on the episode on
Friday with Canyon Mims, the the, the Muslim convert young
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kid, you know? Islam versus Christianity and
dividing Muslims and Christians where fundamentally that's 2.5
billion people and 2.1 billion people globally and trying to
make them hate each other when in in reality, they actually
love each other and they have a tremendous amount of in common,
including both of them considering Jesus Christ, the
(40:44):
Messiah. OK, boom, Ray D is religious,
religious AF. All right, that's it everybody
have a great day. I'll catch up with you later.
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