EP#384 | GUEST | Question Everything: Jeb Baugh on Glenn Beck, Gen Z, and the Great Awakening - Deep Shallow Dive

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The following podcast is a deep,shallow dive production and
you're going to love it. OK, let's go.
Israel has an overwhelming lobbyover the United States
government. A lot of you might have seen
that clip already. My name is Jeff Baugh.

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I'm the student here at University of North Dakota that
head Glenn Beck shook sweating. And be completely honest to you,
a loss for words. When I was talking about the
Israel lobby and the overwhelming control that Israel
has over our government. I've always had a deep
understanding and pursue of history, philosophy and
politics. What I'm asking for is an
opportunity to speak with Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson,

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or someone who has a platform that is willing to reach out to
millions of young Americans thatare facing these problems and
are concerned with the directionour country is going through
this lobby, through this overwhelming control that Israel
has. And thank you for watching.
They will not silence us. All right, Jeb BA Well, listen,
it's not it's not Candace Owens or Tucker Carlson, but hey, man,

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I am. I am bringing you on the deep,
shallow dive. All right, listen, everybody.
So you've heard them now a few times.
I think I played them the other day and then that right there is
the man you're looking at on your screen, which by the way, I
really appreciate you throwing on the tie.
You've got the suit on you. You you look like 1,000,000

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bucks but this is trying. To be professional.
There you go. You're looking very
professional. Jeb Ball, you are.
What year are you at University of North Dakota?
I am a freshman, I just turned 19 less than a month ago.
You're a freshman. Oh, my goodness.
All right, this is going to be awesome.
So listen, Jeb, last week or when was that?

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Last week or the week? About two weeks ago.
OK. About two weeks ago basically,
and talk us through that. That was a Turning Point USA
event at the University of NorthDakota.
And you stood up and got to ask Glenn Beck a question or just
just talk us through all that and then we'll jump into a bunch
of other things. So yeah, Glenn Beck, he went

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over 9 different points and someof them were good, some of them
were weird. One of the points was
questioned, everything. So obviously I questioned him on
something, but some of the points were weird.
One point he was like, we're allchildren as Ion or something
weird and I was thinking a lot. I was like, you know what, I
need to ask a question. I was actually going to go to
the event in the 1st place. I got my ticket about an hour

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before. So I went up there.
I asked the question. I was like, pretty much, I'll
summarize it, but I was pretty much like, why is Israel doing
all this bad stuff to our country, but they're still
considered our greatest ally? I was going to go over the
points of such as, you know, AIPAC, the lobby, we fought
their wars, the USS Liberty and they're killing Christians in

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Gaza and southern Lebanon, bombing churches.
You know, why are we supporting Israel so much?
Why are they considered greatestally when obviously their
foreign policies and how they act, it doesn't really seem like
a greatest ally. Yeah, let me ask you something.
How do you know all this? Like you, just this has been
something you've been interestedin.

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Yes, Sir. It's just been a deep passion of
mine since I was little. Me and my dad always talked
about history. I was really in the history
before politics, so a lot about World War 2 history,
Revolutionary War, Civil War, War of 1812, Napoleonic Wars.
And you kind of have a good haveto have a good understanding of
history to really understand politics.
And then also lately in the pastyear, so I've been getting into

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philosophy and anthropology. So it's it's just been a passion
of mine. When Trump ran in 2016, I really
like Trump then, even though I was young, me and my dad would
talk about I really like Trump. I thought he was the first, like
America first for the American worker president.
You know, he talked about bringing manufacturing jobs back
to the US, stuff like that. So it's just a deep passion of
mine. I've always, I've always just

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been intrigued by politics and found it very fascinating,
interesting. That's incredibly cool.
Yeah. 20/20/16 Trump was based. 2016 Trump was a different dude.
Twenty Trump even was, you know,not bad, although I didn't
really like the way he handled the COVID situation and shutting

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down the country and, you know, kind of being in charge of
Operation Warp Speed, which to this day he still kind of takes
credit for. That's a little bit weird. 2020
four Trump was also, again, I mean, started to get a little
goofy the whole assassination. I'll get your opinion on that in
a second, but I'll tell you what. 2025 Trump post

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inauguration? That's a different dude.
Terrible. It's rough.
It's it's disappointment after disappointment.
OK, interesting. Where Where'd you grow up?
I am originally from North Dakota, so my mom's family is
from North Dakota, but I moved to Texas when I was about 8.
So pretty much my whole life I've lived in Texas.
I come back to up to North Dakota every summer though,

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because my grandparents live in North Dakota, so spend the
summers up here. So it's a very, it's a very
different culture. So that kind of has also
impacted my world view. OK.
And then so, so you where you grew up in Texas, was that
pretty Republican? Was it pretty Christian?
Did you grow up? You know, Republican, Christian,
conservative? No, mom and my grandparents.

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I'm only, I only have my mom's grandparents.
They're very liberal. They're pretty left,
left-leaning. My dad is, I'd probably say my
dad's just kind of a moderate Republican, I would say.
But for the most part I've been around Democrat leaning people
in my life. Well, that's interesting.
OK, that's interesting. That's actually very
interesting. All right, let's get back to

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Turning Point because I do want to talk that Glenn Beck stuff.
So Turning Point USA, do they have a chapter at University of?
North, they do have a chapter and I thought about joining, but
honestly, I just, I don't know. Obviously they wouldn't let me
in now probably. But yeah, when they were showing
the different clubs and stuff the first week of school, I went
up and talked to him and they had some like we stand up Israel

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Pens and I was kind of debating and talking with some of the
people that were, you know, we're working the little stand.
Interesting, Interesting. OK, so so when they let's talk
about that night, was that placepacked?
Like was it? It was it was about 2500 people.
If I want OK. Wow, That's amazing.
And I saw the next one. They did.

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I forget where that was, but Tucker Carlson was the guy.
And ironically, there was there was a young dude similar to you.
I saw that. Yeah.
So I think I think you probably will have started a trend.
OK. So did they just say?
Does anyone have questions and how did that work?
Yeah, they let us ask questions and I was second or third in

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line. I want to say somebody in front
of me asked about Mormonism because going back to Mormon and
I kind of lied my way into asking the question.
They're like, what's your question about?
And yeah. And so they did.
They did vet your question. Yeah, they did.
They did. Who who did that?
Was it? Was it some gal with a like?
Yes it. Was yes, it was.
It was some girl, I guess, and she worked for Turning Point.

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And I was like, she's like, what's your question?
But I'm like, well, I really like Glenn Beck's point
question, everything. And I find it deeply concerning
that a lot of America's youth are questioning our relationship
with Israel. So I'll just like Glenn Beck to
reaffirm that she's like, that'sa great question.
I agree so much. And I'm like, yeah.
I love it, Jeff. I love it.

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That is fantastic. But by the way, the first part,
well, the whole thing's hilarious, but the first part,
you're absolutely right. Question everything.
I mean, when Glenn Beck said that, that's an incredible
statement. Absolutely Question everything.
The the problem is they're putting guardrails on what
everything is, you know, and andyou went outside of those

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guardrails. OK, So you get them like they're
like, you know, she's she's probably thinking she's going to
get, you know, a bonus because you're going to ask such a good
question. So then what happened?
What was the audience like when you asked that?
So I started talking and a lot of the audience is just kind of
quiet. I had some of my buddies in
there, they recording me. Obviously they were hyped up for

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me because they know that I knowwhat I'm talking about.
Yeah, a lot of the audience, once I said that, half the
audience was just like, Oh my gosh, I can't believe, I can't
believe he asked that. But I think I think at least
like 50% of the people there, 60% of people there agreed with
me. And when I went and sat down,
like 3 different dudes gave me ahandshake.
One dude, he was like, you're not a real Christian.

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I'm like, OK, whatever, dude, Yeah, yeah, just yeah.
Brainwashed. And I think, I think most of the
audience agree with me. A lot of people at the school
were talking about it at my university.
OK, OK. You know what?
Listen, you, you were very respectful during the
interaction. You were very respectful with
the way you asked the question. I mean, you did have Glenn Beck

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shook. I mean, he was sweating.
I. Think he took off his jacket.
He took off his jacket. That was hilarious.
And again, I think the answer hegave was is not a genuine answer
at all. He just, he just started talking
about how Islam's the real issuein America and the Democrats
like these neocons, obviously, they always blame it on, you
know, Islam or the Democrats andstuff like that.

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They never really focus on the real issues.
You just nailed it, brother. You just nailed it.
The two things they always blameit on is Islam and then the
Democrats. So Mandy God, you're really well
versed on this. I'm so I'm so impressed.
So like, do you have an understanding back to like, like
were you even born when 911 happened?

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Actually you. Weren't I was I was born in 2006
so. You were born in 2006.
That's amazing. OK.
So, So what do you know about 911 and what are your thoughts
on that? I kind of think 911 was an
inside job to get us into the Middle East.
It was like a modern day Pearl Harbor almost get us involved in

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the Middle East. 911, it's very.I'm not totally well read on it.
Yeah, a lot of sketchy stuff about even like building #7 I
don't know if you know what thatis.
But like that just kind of doesn't really have an
explanation whatsoever. Yeah, Jeb, you're awesome.
Listen what you just said. You probably know more about 911

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than unfortunately 99% of Generation X and the baby
boomers who have never even stopped to ask a question.
Yeah, I know people. People don't really look into
things, especially older people.They just kind of believe the
narrative. I mean, but they grew up.
They were born in a generation when their government didn't lie
to them as much. Yeah, you're absolutely.

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You're absolutely right. Well, actually they were born in
a generation where maybe they'reall their government did was lie
to him, but they never realized it.
I mean, like, what about like, like, like, have you gone back
to look at like, JFKI know you you, you looked into the USS
Liberty, huh? Yeah, I've looked in the USS

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Liberty, JFK, there's a lot of weird stuff around that JFK
didn't want Israel building nuclear weapons and he's very
against that. So, yeah, JFK is a very, very
weird. I don't like to say anything if
I'm not 100% well read on it. So I can't make a decision one
or another. But yeah, there's it's very,
very SUS. Yeah, it it is definitely very
SUS. And it's very SUS in the sense

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that Lee Harvey Oswald as a loneshooter, ironically, what does
that remind you of in terms of recent?
Like he reminds me of the DonaldTrump shooter or the Charlie or
Tyler Robinson. Yeah, exactly.
Yeah. Doesn't really make sense.
The Charlie Kirk shooting. That doesn't make sense to me at
all. Yeah.

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What are your? Things like that.
What are your thoughts on that? So what I think happened, and
obviously it's not confirmed, is, you know, the little
microphone or whatever he had onit, I think that actually
exploded into him because if we look at the Mossad, what they
did with the pagers, I, I think that's completely feasible.
I think the Mossad could really orchestrate and do something
like that. And they took it off of Charlie

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Kirk after some dude. There's a clip of some dude
running, picking it up and then walking off.
And then also a 30 aught sixth round would have gone straight
through Charlie's neck. That's right.
That's. Another thing.
Good job, dude. You need a podcast.
What am I doing? I'm just going to hand over this
podcast to you. You're that's amazing.
No, I think, listen, I love the fact that kind of you, you see

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what I see. You really do like everything
you just said. I completely agree with that.
So let me ask you like your generation like it's school.
Are there a lot of people that are like you right now?
I would say a lot of people are waking up.
There's a lot of people, if you talk to him a year or half ago,
they'd say, oh, Jeb, you're, youdon't really, you're kind of

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just a conspiracy theorist. You're really not making sense.
But a lot of my buddies now, they're like asking me about it.
They're reading into it. I see the stuff they like on
Instagram and it's I'd probably say 70% of Gen.
Z, especially young white men, think how I do.
Yeah, yeah, young white men do think how you do.
And ironically, I think a lot ofyoung white men who are

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Christian. You're Christian, right?
Yes, Sir, I am. OK, so you're Christian.
You're are you a registered Republican?
Do you consider yourself a Republican?
I can. I like to call myself a
conservative, yeah. OK, that's cool.
That's cool. You know, I do think a lot of
you guys are are asking these questions and actually you're

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the ones asking the questions. Surprisingly, even more than
Liberal Democrats your age, likeI don't think they're really
asking these questions. No, they're, they're focused on
the wrong issues. They're talking about, you know,
mental health crisis or focus onabortion or stuff like that.
One thing these, like liberals always do, they always focus on

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a like, a fact, like a product of something that is bigger in
society. So it'll be like, oh, there's a
mental health crisis. Well, why is there a mental
health crisis? What if society has led to
people being mentally ill? Yeah.
So, yeah, I, I, but I think, I think a lot of Gen.
ZI think there's a lot of bipartisan issues we both agree
on that could be fixed. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.

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You know what, that's another great point.
You're you're right. I do see liberals actually,
regardless of the generation, they're kind of focused on issue
by issue where you really need to scope it up.
Go up the ladder and realize whyare these issues happening?
Why? Are these issues happening
exactly like when I, when I havefriends that are like still
talking about, you know, Coed bathrooms?

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I'm like, dude, that is so circa2020.
Like we've moved on from that. You're being super basic.
There's a bigger problem that we're trying to solve for sure.
What about? OK, so the rest of that after
you asked your question, seems like some people, you know,
really, really were glad you asked.

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Did you get any people? You said there was one guy who
said you're not a real Christian.
Yeah, that's probably. He's probably one of those guys
who's been raised in an evangelical church where they
probably read the Schofield Bible, stuff like that.
Jeb. You are just nailing it.
You are nailing it one after another.

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Scofield Bible, did you did you see?
Obviously you must have saw whenTed Cruz maybe that.
I did. I made I made a video on that
today. Oh, you did.
You did. What did you say about the thing
with Tucker Nelson? Well, I I call him.
I call him Tel Aviv. Tel Aviv, Ted.
Tel Aviv, Ted. That's good.
Yeah, but he was pretty much. You're talking about the thing

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that happened like not last night, but the night before,
correct? Well, I was talking about when
he went on Tucker Carlson Carlson two months ago and he
got into the Genesis 12/3, you know, God's chosen people
conversation. I'm really not familiar on that.
I did see a little bit some snippets of the tuck across an
interview. Though, okay, but then a couple

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nights ago, tell us about that. I are you talking about when he
was at the John Hagee? I think it was something along
along those. Lines it was some pro, it was
some pro Israel event. And then Ted Cruz is there and
also some pastor was there, but Ted Cruz is pretty much like
Israel is. So we need Israel because of
their intelligence resources to fight off these tariffs in Iran

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and stuff like that. And I made a video.
I was like, well, Ted, there's alot of reasons we shouldn't
support Israel, but I'll just attack you on this issue in
particular about intelligence resources.
We wouldn't need Israel's intelligence resources if we
weren't finding these wars. I mean, we literally go into
these Middle Eastern countries and we make terrorists for is
like we literally go in there and we create ammo, we make

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terrorists and we're fighting Israel's wars.
I mean, it's just, it's just crazy.
And then he was also like, if you hate, you hate Israel and
you hate Jews, you hate Christians too.
And then also this pastor, he was like, if it is sorry.
I know, I know what you're talking about.
It's that short, fat little pastor.

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His name is John Hagee. He runs one of these like mega
churches out of town. Yeah, I think that's his name.
And he was like, Israel, Israelipeople are above Americans.
Yeah, he said that. And I'm like, how?
How are these Like, how is that?How can you even say that?
I that's what I don't get like, like, listen, I'm all about
like, I don't want to bash any people, but I also don't think

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anyone's above anyone else. Yeah, I agree.
It's like, it's like, it's like,it's like me as a business
person saying, well, Elon Musk is above me as a human being
because he's more successful than I am.
OK, yes, he is more successful than I am, but that doesn't mean
he's above me as a human being or that God has anointed him
something that he didn't anoint me.

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That stuff is crazy, man. You're right, I know.
It's that evangelical Christianity that again goes
back to the school. It's manipulated a lot of
people. It's terrible.
It has. It has.
Are you? It's really bad amongst the
older generations. Though it is it is it is I think
the older baby boomer generationmaybe, maybe your grant your

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what are your grandparents like?What are their thoughts?
My grandparents, they're pretty.They're pretty liberal, I would
say. They think what Israel's doing
is wrong. They still say, though, Israel's
our greatest ally and their democracy in the Middle East.
I mean, that's pretty much all they got to say about it,
though. But they are like, yeah, they
need to wrap up the war, but they still support Israel for
the most part. And then, and then where do your

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parents net out on some of thesethings?
My dad kind of thinks more like I do.
He's got that kind of train of thought over the past two years
or so. But before that, my dad was very
blue pilled. You know, he's he works in the
medical field. So he was very pro wearing masks
during COVID. And I thought that was like,
yeah, so. What did you think?

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What did you think about the wearing masks?
Well, I kind of just, I kind of thought like I thought China
definitely made it and my dad even thinks that China made it.
But he was very pro air mass, pro quarantine, stuff like that,
shut down stuff. But I was more kind of let
people do what they want to do, you know?
Yeah, you were more like this isthis has been manipulated for

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XYZ reason? Right and I even told them I was
like I was like dad, most peoplethat die from COVID are
overweight and that's right haveunderlying health diseases.
I'm like dad, I'm I'm in shape. I go to the gym, I work out,
exercise, eat healthy. I have nothing to worry about.
That's right, my mom, my mom, I would definitely say my mom is
more liberal leaning, but she isnot well informed.

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I. OK, OK, OK, All right, so, so,
so listen this clip of yours, I mean, I would say collectively,
I tried to do a little search last night just on Instagram.
I didn't even look on TikTok. I'm not kidding.
You've probably been seen well over two or three million times.

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Probably. More probably more, I mean,
deep, shallow dive alone, the three times I've posted it,
we're over I think several 100,000.
And then the profile that I pulled it from, it's a it's a
site called Breezy Politics. That that one alone is like
700,000. So this, yeah, this thing is

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really out there. Did your family call you or did
your friends call you or like has there been a reaction?
Yeah, I had a lot of friends, a lot of people here at the
University of A that talked about that kind of know, know me
or know about me. Now, my my mom and my
grandparents, they were kind of,I don't know, they're kind of
worried for me. Think I could should just kind
of keep quiet about stuff like this, you know, not really sure

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my opinion, just, you know, go get a normal job, you know,
Yeah, live that kind of life. So my dad, my dad's very
impressed by it, though. OK, because, yeah, because we
talk about politics a lot. But yeah, my friends, they're
very impressed by it. They're like, good job.
I wouldn't been able to do that.Even the president of my
fraternity, he said. I wish I had the balls you had.
Oh, that's awesome. That's awesome.

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What about what about the ladies?
Has this has this improved your ladies game?
Honestly, since since I've been doing this, I really, I really
haven't had time to focus on girls, OK?
All. Right.
A lot of girl, a lot of girls were like, I didn't know you're
that smart, Jeb. Yeah, like I didn't.
Yeah, so. They just thought you were all
brown, right? They just thought you were like
this beefcake. Hey, let me ask you something.

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This is going to make you laugh.Did you rustle in high school?
No, Sir, I did not. You did not.
OK. I thought for sure you wrestle.
You kind of have that wrestlers,that wrestlers profile.
OK, that's funny, man. Well, listen to to end on that
before we move on to a couple other things.
I, I I want to commend you for being first of all, for being so

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articulate with your question, polite in the way you asked it.
I did not think you were, you know, at all adversarial toward
Glenn Beck. I think you asked him a
legitimate question. He tried.
I had to weasel out of it a couple times.
And you kept him on course and, you know, moving forward, just
keep that mindset, you know whatI mean?

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Like, like, like you can kill him with your intellect.
You know what? I mean, I always try to base my
thoughts and my ideals on rationality and intellectualism.
OK, well, you're doing. That, but I really, I really
appreciate that. No, I mean it.
I mean it. You're doing it.
You're doing a great job with that.
And, you know, obviously, ever since discovering that and

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setting this up, you know, I'm following you.
And so, you know, I'm continuingto share your content and, and,
and, and honestly listen to yourperspective.
And I will say I I really do enjoy it.
All right, What do you think's going to happen, man?
What do you think? What does Jeb Ball think is next
for this? Let's start with the Gaza,
Israel, Palestine, those people.What's going to happen to them?

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Well, I think that taste never really lasts in the Middle East.
It's always going to be something as long as there's
different culture groups in there.
Yeah. So I think that Israel is pretty
much going to take over all of Gaza and I think that they're
going to work towards the Greater Israel Project, if you
know what that is. I do, but why don't you explain
it to the audience? Because maybe they don't.
So the Greater Israel Project, it's pretty much where Israel

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takes from the Sinai to, I don'tknow if it's the Tigers or the
Euphrates River, but they prettymuch take all of that over.
And I mean, they pretty much manipulate every country in the
region except for Iran. And they they try to portray in
the US that Iran's our biggest problem ever, but it is an Iran
that's giving us these high costof housing or the fact that the

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middle class is shrinking or mass immigration in the Western.
Well, it's not Iran's fault. And that, I mean, our
politicians try to manipulate and lie to us.
But yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if Israel tries to
push towards this Greater Israelproject.
I mean it's even on the IDs soldiers patches.
Yeah, yeah, there is a there is a little Insignia or a, a icon

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or a logo for that. OK, Yeah, that's true.
And you know what's ironic aboutthat is it's pretty much from
the river to the sea is what they want as the Greater Greater
Israel project. And then somehow that phrase
kind of got weaponized at the Palestinian people saying that
that's their phrase. And then that means the
eradication of Jews. Yeah, it's unfortunately it's

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it's a very God. It's terrible.
It really is. It really is.
And for? Everyone in the region.
Yeah. What are your thoughts on the
concept of like the military industrial complex?
You had mentioned that. I think the military industrial
complex is terrible and sorry Eisenhower, Eisenhower warned us
about it. I mean, we are always involved

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in the Middle East. We are the world police, which
we shouldn't be. We don't need to be.
A bit will be a lot peaceful, more peaceful place if we
weren't the world's police. Even something like our planes
are so expensive, our air tanks are so expensive.
And that only benefits the military contractors because you
really have these extensive planes and tanks that aren't
super reliable, but they're super expensive.

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So then in turn, the military industrial complex, these
military contractors get more money and they lobby out our
government, and they love war. They love sending.
Yeah. They don't want peace.
I mean, if you were a military contractor, you would love war
and you'd want more war. I mean, it's simple.
That's exactly right. You know, I always say you
always need a boogeyman. You need a big bad wolf.

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There's always got to be an enemy.
Without an enemy, there's no warand no war is not good business.
War is good business. It's actually very similar to,
you know, the medical industry and COVID and getting sick like
getting people healthy makes or there's a great expression.
It says getting people healthy makes a lot of sense, but it

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doesn't make a lot of dollars. And that's so true it.
Doesn't make dollars even like Trump.
He was supposed to. I mean, he had RFK to make our
food healthier. I mean, eight companies own
everything we eat. There's so much processed stuff
in the food. We eat so much junk and it's,
it's terrible. Like, I mean, that's like it.
That's one big problem with America in particular.
I mean, in Europe there's a lot of stuff that is banned that's

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legal in America. And we continue to eat everyday,
feed our kids, feed it in our schools.
I mean, it's, it's terrible. No, it absolutely is.
And I think the entire relationship with food in the
United States, first of all, is messed up.
And then, yeah, it's like the whole Make America Healthy
again. Where is that?
What happened to that I mean? Exactly.
It's exactly, it's like, it's like they their big win was, you

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know, change, changing the ingredients of Froot Loops or
something like that. And it's like getting rid of red
dye #3 but that's not, that's not what we wanted.
You know, man, it's disappointing.
It's been definitely. I'm really disappointed by
Trump. I see Trump is a very sad
Band-Aid on the bleeding wound of America.
I mean, that's the best way to describe it.
Very sad Band-Aid. That's a great way to describe

(26:54):
it. Also, I don't think Trump just
hasn't been infiltrated by the deep state.
I also think that he's just lesssharp than he used to be like 8
to 10 years ago. OK, OK, yeah, that he's coming
off that way for sure. I mean, he's definitely coming
off that way. You know, I put a clip the other
day on Instagram where it was the 2016 Trump.
And maybe I'll, I'll, I'll insert it into this podcast.

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But it was the one where he was talking about, you know, they
lied. They lied.
We never had weapons of mass destruction.
They went to Iraq and they lied and all that.
I want to tell you, they lied. They said there were weapons of
mass destruction. There were none.
And they knew there were none. There were no weapons of mass.
Obviously the war in Iraq was a big fat mistake.

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Like that was the guy that a lotof people rallied around.
Yeah. And and then we're over here.
We're like bombing Iran. And it they try to make it as
like, oh, this is a patriotic thing.
Like, yeah, let's go, Trump makeAmerica great again.
No, that was a terrible thing that we bombed Iran.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So your generation, though, I
feel like you guys are awake, like you know what's?

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Yeah, a lot of us do. A lot of us do.
I mean, it's we are not, we are not brainwashed by the mass
media. We have seen it for our own
eyes. I mean, we never got to really
grow up in the in the America that our parents and
grandparents had. I mean, that was just never
there for us. It's like a nostalgia for
something that was never there. Yeah, yeah, absolutely,
absolutely. And so life on campus, I mean,

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is, is University of North Dakota, like are there political
organizations? Is it a decently political
school or not really? I would say it's just like
mediocre. I mean, I wouldn't say people
are super into politics. I'd probably say it's like 40%
liberal, 60% conservative. OK, OK.
There is for conservative groups, there's Young Americans
for Freedom and then there's also TPUSA and then I think

(28:47):
there's some other like there's like one or two other, like kind
of left wing organizations. OK God, I wonder what would
happen if you tried to join TPUSA.
I wonder, yeah. Did that you know that that the
gal that handed you the microphone and that that sort of
pre qualified you with the question, did she just give you
like a death stare? Yeah, she didn't look too happy

(29:10):
with me after the fact. And by and by the way, nobody
from the university approached you after or did.
Was there any? OK, OK, good.
Because again, you didn't do anything wrong.
You asked a, a completely legitimate question in a in a
very polite way. So I think I I'm glad.

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I'm glad you're saying nobody approached you.
That's funny. All right.
What else, man? What else do you want to talk
about? Anything else on your mind?
Let me look. Well, OK, I was thinking about.
I got some stuff written down. Yeah.
The youth have seen our middle class shrink.
One of the things I'd like to talk about is a part of that is

(29:52):
from mass immigration. OK, If we can talk about that.
Yeah, of course, mass immigration and Democrats, even
10 years ago used to be like, wecannot support mass immigration
because it hurts our workers, which now left and right, like
immigration is encouraged. And it's just like you.
These only benefit the multinational corporations
because they can have cheaper labor.

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And it's it's it's terrible. And no one really talks about
the left or the right. They kind of both discourage
immigration. It's not just like, oh, these
people are coming in, they're bringing drugs and stuff.
No, they're taking our jobs too.Yeah.
And lowering our wages. Yeah.
Increasing housing prices and the such.
I, you know, I, I think you're dead right about all that.
And then what I'd encourage you to do is kind of what you've

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been doing with everything and that is scoping it up to think
like, OK, why are they doing this?
And then who's doing this? Who is creating this chaos?
Who is creating this division and argument between left and
right by bringing in the mass immigration?
Because here's the thing. So it's, it's like for years

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they allow mass immigration and now they flip the script and
say, hey, it's the mass immigrants who are killing
everybody and who are bringing all the drugs and.
It's like, well, you guys let them in.
Exactly. You guys let them in and then
this is also where they say we have to declare a holy war on
Muslims. All the sudden it it enables

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them to flip that script. Like there was no radical Islam
in the West before 911. People don't ever really think
about that. There was no radical Islam.
There was none also. Jeb, you are, you are nailing
it, man. You are literally batting 1000,
man. You're killing it one after
another. No, you're right.

(31:39):
There was no radical Islam. And, and, and, and let me share
something with you that maybe you hadn't thought of, because
this is my own personal theory. So like before 911 and before
all that happened, and obviouslythis was well before your time,
but in the 80s, you know, in the70s and 80s, it was the USSR and
the United States. Those were the two superpowers.

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Hell, if you ever watch Rocky 4,you know, Rocky versus Ivan
Drago, everything was USSR, United States.
And then when that ended, they called it the Cold War.
And when the Cold War ended, allof the sudden we didn't have an
enemy anymore. There was no boogeyman.
There was no big bad Wolf. There was nothing for the

(32:22):
military industrial complex to justify the military industrial
complex. And honestly, I had a guy on the
show, Scott Horton, I don't knowif you know Scott, but I said I
was like, it was. It was like radical Islam popped
up from the ground. And now all the sudden it went
from war against the commies to war against radical Islam, and

(32:44):
it's like they kept it going. It's like a cycle of
terribleness, like because even these like far right politicians
in Europe, they're like, oh, we need to kick out all these
refugees, refugees, blah, blah. Mass immigration, which I think
it is terrible. There's mass immigration, but
then they still support Israel. If we weren't supporting Israel
and Israel in these wars, there would be no mass immigration

(33:06):
because we go in there and we kick these people out of their
homes and create terrorists. And also on thing of Russia,
they try to make Russia as like such a terrible like that's the,
you know, for the big while, youknow, Russia and China were bad
guys, which there still aren't necessarily, you know, they
aren't allies with the US, but we could have been friends with
Russia in the 90s. I don't know if you knew about
this, but if we didn't let in all those countries into NATO

(33:28):
under Bill Clinton, we probably could have been friends with
Russia. I mean, it's like, no, no wonder
Russia's trying to get back to territories that have been under
control for hundreds of years. I mean, it would be like America
falling apart and China takes over.
You know, they have a faction with Mexico, Canada, and they
take like Washington and like California, you know what I
mean? And then it'll be us like that.

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I mean, that's just how I see it.
It's no, no, totally. The expansion of NATO, they
almost wanted, they've almost practically surrounded Russia.
And I think, I think Ukraine andGeorgia and really Ukraine, you
know, that was that's been theirred line the entire time.
And so, you know, even in 2022 where all the sudden, you know,

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Putin invaded Ukraine, it was really, it's almost like they
forced his hand to do it becauseagain, they said, hey, we're
going to bring Ukraine into NATO.
You're absolutely right. Is that is that kind of your
thought? Press thought?
Press yeah. I mean, it's like not, I'm not
surprised that Russia is, you know, trying to take back the
lands they've had. I mean, we've been kind of

(34:31):
passive aggressive with them since the Soviet Union fell.
Yeah, absolutely. I I look at all that as like,
why can't we all just get along?I mean, there's just no reason.
But again, hanging along doesn'tit's.
Not good to make money it. Doesn't make money.
It really doesn't. All right, we talked a little
immigration. What else?
What else do you have written down?
And by the way, everybody, if you're not watching this on

(34:53):
Spotify and YouTube is wearing asuit.
He's got a tie on. My man looks sharp.
He looks real good. He came prepared.
This is even like more more bonus points for him.
Thank you. No one talks about it, and I
don't know what more people don't talk about, but Netanyahu
came and I sold this to Glenn Beck.

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Netanyahu came to our Congress in the 90s and gave us a list of
countries to take out, and we have slowly been taking out each
of those countries. That's right.
That's right. That's right.
It's just, it's, it's terrible. It's simply terrible.
No, it really. And by the way, there's another,
there's another speech by a guy named General Wesley Clark.
If you haven't seen that after this, Google General Wesley

(35:37):
Clark. And he gave a speech in 2007
about being at the Pentagon, I believe in 2001 or 2002.
And he talked about how they gave him a memo that said we're
going to invade 7 countries, seven countries in the next five
years. And those countries were all
countries that we have invaded. And then the last one is Iran.

(36:00):
By the way, another little tip for you.
So Iran is actually pronounced Iran.
So pronounce it with the E. Iran.
Iran. Yeah.
Iran. Yeah.
And, and, and another little funfact.
I was actually born there. That's where I was born.
Really. Yeah.
Yeah. Interesting.
But then my family moved to America when I was like 2 years
old. So I've.
After the revolution. Yeah, yeah, we, we actually

(36:22):
moved before the revolution. So we moved here before the
revolution, not knowing that there was going to be a
revolution. And then the revolution
happened. So we were one of like millions
that kind of got stuck here. Like had there been no
revolution, we would not be recording this podcast because
I, I'd be, I'd be doing a podcast in Farsi in Iran right

(36:42):
now, which is actually pretty funny.
But you're, you're dead on. Your Netanyahu reference was
great. He did come to our Congress.
I mean, that guy's spoken in front of our Congress more than
some of. Yeah, he's, he's the, he's the
only guy that John Fetterman will put a suit on for.
Yeah, you know, yeah, exactly. I mean, that's how he shows who

(37:03):
the real boss is. Jeb just nailing another one.
My man is just checking off the boxes.
All right. What else?
Anything else, my man? I think that civil war is coming
to a lot of these Western European countries.
I mean, a lot of people, yeah, alot of people are getting really
tired of it. I mean, they were government

(37:23):
arrests them for saying basically facts.
And it's, you know, they're supposedly after freedom of
speech, but it's only freedom ofspeech if they like what you're
saying or it goes with their agenda.
Yeah, I, I think that's happening in England and Germany
big time. Like people are getting arrested
for like posts on Instagram and tweets and stuff, which is
pretty scary actually. I, I think the people are going

(37:45):
to get pretty tired of it prettysoon and something's going to
happen because they're going to be like, it's, it's now or
never. I mean, we either do something
or rise up now or, or I mean, our country's gone and
everything throughout history, it's, you know, it's cooked.
It's going to be gone. Yeah, yeah, you're absolutely
right, man. The rubber's going to meet the
road here pretty soon. But again, the question becomes
who's doing this? Who's making this happen?

(38:08):
Who's causing this chaos? Because we can't blame these
refugees themselves because theyjust want to come over and have
a better life, no. Absolutely can't do that.
Exactly. Honestly, the whole refugee
discussion and the mass immigration and all that, Don't
get me wrong, I do think that there needs to be, you know,
limits on everything. But it's, it's also a very

(38:31):
convenient scapegoat to pin the blame on.
And again, to me, yeah, to me, what I've seen happening, you
know, the two division divisive points, 1 is the traditional
left versus right, and then the other is Christianity versus
Islam. And so you have to think what
group is potentially driving those two divisions and and we

(38:56):
don't have to say it, but. But we all know.
Too, Yeah and keeping themselvesout of it.
All right, listen, anything elsebecause I've really enjoyed this
and I think you might have to become a an ongoing segment like
report back in every once in a. While I would love, I would love
to, I think that we are going tohave freedom of speech lockdowns
here in the US OK, let me tell you why.

(39:18):
Yeah, our social media right nowis the most liberalized it's
ever been. On TikTok, Instagram, you can
see people, you know, like, liking stuff.
And I mean, even normal people are liking stuff like Nick
Fuentes. Yeah.
What are your thoughts on Nick Fuentes, by the way?
Like Nick Fuentes, to a certain degree, I don't think he really

(39:42):
has anything in place to solve these issues.
OK. Interesting, but I I was, I
would say I like Nick. No, I like, I like him too.
And, and I think he's incrediblyintelligent.
Yeah, I do too. Very articulate.
And he has, I mean, he's a generational talent in the sense
that he's able to articulate complicated things, actually.

(40:05):
You kind of remind me. And he dives into things.
He dives into things very. Deep he does listen.
You're you you you definitely remind me of him.
You know, Charlie Kirk was pretty good too.
I I've given Charlie his due on this podcast, even though I did
not like Charlie the past few years because I thought he was
again, he infiltrated, he was infiltrated and he was.

(40:26):
He was very scared of Israel. A month before he got killed, he
was like, I think Israel is going to kill me if I speak
about him. He turned down the money that
they last tried to send him. That's kind of weird.
That is kind of, by the way, among your friend group or your,
you know, do you guys talk aboutthe Charlie Kirk thing?
Like do people? Have doubts?
We do the. Tyler.

(40:47):
Oh, oh, yes. Most people I talk to have
doubts. Most people have doubts for
sure. Even my liberal grandparents
that I call them, like the day effort happened and they didn't
like Charlie Kirk. But I was like, I think it's an
inside job. She was like Jeb.
I was thinking the same thing too.
I just want to hear your thoughts on it.
Yeah, I do. I do think there's going to be a

(41:08):
crackdown on our social media. OK, so this is what I think's
going to happen. It's kind of like a theory of
mine. But I think that there is going
to be some sort of event being some sort of act.
And the person that does it is going to be reposting and liking
a lot of Nick Fuentes, Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson content.
Because our media is so liberalized right now, anyone
can talk about anything that seems like something's going to

(41:30):
happen, and then they're going to be like, all right, we need
to crack down on this. This has gone too far.
Never again. And then they're going to shut
down at all. That's what I think, OK?
That's how I think it's going tohappen here in America.
Just the theory. I mean, that is the classic
false flag, you know, that is the USS Liberty, that is 911,
That is, I mean, honestly, October 7th, you know, a lot of

(41:50):
people. October 7th was very weird to
me. I mean, how did the most sod,
the most advanced intelligent agency in the world not see
people on paragliders or coming through tunnels?
I mean. That's right.
And I think they were able to see a shipment of uranium,
uranium come from North Korea, and they blew up that train.

(42:13):
So if they were able to do that,and I don't know the exact date,
but there was some time in the early 2000s, if they were able
to do that, how could they not see these Hamas members, you
know, come on pair of geysers and tunnels and not be able to
and not be able to respond rightaway?
I mean, it's that was completelylike they wanted it to happen.
They want to reason justification to go into Gaza
and, you know, genocide them. I mean Frank.

(42:36):
That is, that is what that is what has played out for sure.
You know, it's funny, even Charlie Kirk was on a Patrick
BET David podcast on October 12th, 2023 where he five days
after October 7th where he literally said that he talked
about how, you know, could therehave been a stand down order?

(42:58):
It took the IT took the IDF 6 hours to respond.
Six hours. I don't believe, you know,
Israel the size of New Jersey. Why would it take them that
long? There's a checkpoint every 10
feet. Yeah, all that stuff, man, it
just. Doesn't.
It's really weird. It is very.
Doesn't sit right with me. It doesn't sit right with me
either. I love that you and your

(43:19):
generation are asking those questions because those, you
know, they're just questions that everybody should ask.
And you shouldn't be, you shouldn't be called anti-Semitic
for ants asking those questions.And you should be able to ask
these questions. None of our politicians talk
about them. All our politicians, pretty much
all our politicians are bought by APEC.
Why APEC isn't under a foreign lobby like registration?

(43:40):
It's crazy to me. I mean I just don't I don't get
it. And it is only APEC in America.
I mean, there's Israel lobbies for all the countries around the
western world, England, Canada, Australia.
I mean, it isn't just here in America.
Yeah, yeah, that's right. I think, I think the guy after
you asked that question, he's like, why does the Australian
lobby have to Rep have to register with Farah the the

(44:02):
foreign something act and why does Israel not?
And then that's when Glenn Beck was like, well, you're right,
that's not fair. We should fix that.
But you know, after the fact, hehe, he that dude is just.
Terrible. Glenn Beck wrote a letter to
Netanyahu asking for, like, Israeli citizenship.
I don't know if you've seen that.
It was like, I would love to stand by the Jew or something.

(44:24):
There's just something that's really weird.
Be honored. It's just weird, man.
It's so. Weird.
My take on the whole thing is dude, just like be real about
stuff. Like again, we can all get
along. Nobody is God's chosen people.
I mean, I will say this, I do respect Christians and

(44:45):
Christianity for the ones that say, hey, the New Testament and
the New Covenant says that if you accept Jesus Christ as your
Lord and Savior, then then that's kind of God's chosen
people. Now, again, I respect that.
If you're a Christian and your main guy is Jesus, then I could

(45:05):
understand you saying, hey, Ray,you're a super good guy.
We know you're well intended, but you know you're not a
Christian. You don't accept Jesus Christ as
your Lord, which I don't. That's not, I'm not religious.
So like for someone to say, well, you know what, man, I hate
to say it, but you're probably not going to heaven.
I get that and I'm cool with that and I respect it.
But again, to to create, you know, such levels in humanity

(45:32):
for for stuff that that is made-up, you know, from like
being promised 8000 years ago. That just doesn't make any
sense. Yeah, no, it doesn't make sense.
And they really just manipulate.They manipulate a lot, a lot of
Christians and a lot of Americans.
They make us feel like Israel ison our side and like, no, they I
don't know exact quote, but I saw this a while ago and

(45:54):
Benjamin IU pretty much is like we need to milk the US, Like we
just need to use the yes, yeah. Yeah, there was a there was a
video of him where I think he was speaking Hebrew, actually.
And he was talking about, you know, basically saying we need
to milk the United States. Or maybe he was even God.
That guy might even speak English and say that he's so
he's so ballsy. I just don't get it, man.

(46:15):
Well, I do get it. But again, I'm glad people are
starting to get it. I, I have a lot of hope.
I, I, I think my generation really realizes it.
And we're not going to be boughtout.
And we're, we're just, we're tired of it.
I mean, we see it is like, you know, our grandparents created
something worth saving. So we need to save this country.
I mean, we need to, we need to bring back.

(46:36):
We need to be true America first.
Not send a couple billing to Ukraine, send a couple billing
to Israel. Yeah, H1B1 visas and you know,
you know, stuff like that. No, absolutely.
Who do you like, by the way, politician wise, is there
anybody that you like? And then even social media wise,
who do you like besides me and Deep Shallow Night?

(46:57):
I I used to like Trump. I really did used to like Trump.
I used to be like, Trump's our guy.
I love Trump. Yeah, probably about when he
picked JD Vance. And I was like, all right, it's
Trump. Isn't our guy so much no more?
And tell us why. Tell us why you think that.
I don't like JD Vance. I think he's a slimeball.
He didn't used to like Trump. Peter Thiel.

(47:21):
His story doesn't really make sense.
He's changed his name. He changed his name twice and
like and and that's another guy.Dude came out of nowhere.
Like came out of nowhere. They pushed him, yeah.
And then I don't, I don't like Vivac.
I don't like any of the globalist kind of big business
first politicians. I don't.

(47:42):
I don't really care for any of them.
Yeah. Who do I like right now?
I mean, I like Nick Fuentes, I guess.
I like Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, Politicians wise.
Thomas Massey. I think he's pretty good.
Yeah, yeah. Thomas Massey's won over a lot
of people. Rand Paul is not bad.

(48:02):
Rand Paul is pretty good. I'll tell you the other one that
has been a total surprise. I'll give you, I'll give you a
hint and let's see if you can guess it.
She, she, it's a she. She definitely was not on my
bingo. Card Marjorie Taylor Green.
There you go. There you go.
Yeah, yeah, she, yeah, she's allright.

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You know, listen. And she's she's like calling a
spade a spade. That's my tagline for this
podcast. She's calling a spade a spade.
And she's she's like speaking her truth.
Matt Gaetz is another guy, even though he's not in Congress
anymore. But Matt Gaetz is speaking
facts. What about Alex Jones?
You ever listen to that guy? Yeah, I used to.
I was. I listen to Alex Jones back in

(48:45):
the day. I like Alex Jones.
I think he is kind of more of a Gen.
Xer. Yeah, yeah.
I like Alex Jones, though he's alittle bit pretty conspiracy
theorist. He is.
He is, he is. Yeah, he's he's all right.
He's all right. He's our he.
He's definitely one of those guys you listen to, but you take
everything with a grain of salt.What?

(49:07):
What do you guys refer to him asold head?
Like would you call him an old head?
I'm probably call him an unk. I wouldn't say he's a old head,
but he was. He's a unk for sure, like Glenn
Beck's an old head. Glenn Beck's an old head.
OK, Glenn Beck's an old head. Alex, you're.
You're even UNK. You're yeah.

(49:28):
Am I an unk? You're an UNK, yeah.
Man, is that good or bad? I mean, it's it's just kind of
indifferent, good or bad. I mean, you're older.
I'm older. I am older.
Yeah, I am older. Oh, Jeff, you're my man, dude.
I'm totally enjoying this. All right?
Anything else? Anything else on your list?

(49:49):
We talked about mass immigration.
Dude, I can't be the same kind of unk as Alex Jones.
Though you aren't the same type.As a good song, right?
You're a good one. Yeah, no, Yeah, you're a good
one. Yeah.
I'm like, I'm like when the athletes refer to like, Ray
Lewis as an UNK or like they call like, Jordan an UNK.
Yeah, yeah. I'm like Jordan.

(50:10):
Yeah, yeah. We kind of talked about how the
left and a lot of, you know, a lot of Democrats and
Republicans, they kind of focus on like the results of a greater
issue. So we talked about that.
Yeah, Yeah, I think, I think that's kind of most of the stuff
unless you got anything. No man, I'm good.

(50:32):
I really enjoyed this. I thought it was great.
Had a lot. Of fun.
First of all, I really appreciate how prepared you came
to this, not only from your physical attire and you dressed
well, but again, I really appreciate you preparing for
this. You know, I, I told you one of
my goals is, you know, just to get you out there more through
through clips from this episode,but then also all your other

(50:54):
stuff so we can see if we can land you on Tucker or Candace or
somebody else. Dave Smith's got a good podcast.
There's a bunch of them out there.
But I will I will work to make that happen.
I really appreciate have have the opportunity to come on man.
I really do. I really.
Do my pleasure. All right everybody, Jeb Ball
and and Ray D as the UNK All right.

(51:16):
I hope you guys really enjoyed this.
I got a lot out of this Jeb again, I got to tell you you
went you went 20 for 20 man, younailed it.
Every single thing you talked about.
I was very impressed. You really took the audience
through a nice history of all the various things that, quite
frankly, everyone my age, your parents, grandparents, 30s,

(51:38):
forties, fifties, 60s, everybodyjust needs to know this.
And then you decide what you think, you know, That's my big
thing. My big thing is, hey, just be
open to understanding that theremight been, might be a different
side to all this stuff. Take in everything and then
decide what you thought, everyone.
Your truth. Yeah.

(51:58):
Absolutely. That's one thing.
I always try to talk to everyone.
I talked to leftists, I talked to right wingers, I talked to
everyone. I always, I love it.
I talked to there's two foreign European extensions at my school
and I've talked to them about politics and stuff like that.
Actually, that's a great call because, again, they they had
such a different upbringing thanyou.
Yeah, they do. People that grew up outside the

(52:19):
United States, I think you'd geta lot out of talking to them.
So all right, hang on the line. All right, everybody, call a
spade a spade. Call your parents.
Jeb, you call your parents as well.
That's my secondary tagline. Hope you guys enjoyed this.
We'll definitely bring Jeb back throughout the course of the
school year. Have him check in, give us
updates and you know, he made some predictions today.

(52:41):
So let's see if free speech getsgets ratcheted down.
I have a feeling you're right. The acquisition of TikTok by by
that group headed up by Larry Ellison and Oracle, that's not a
good sign for TikTok and that could be coming to another
social media outlets near you soon.

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So who knows, who knows, We'll see what happens.
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We'll talk to you soon. All right, hang on, buddy.
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