EP#388 | DSD | Strokes, Gen Z, and Candace, Tucker, Nick F., Erika Kirk & TPUSA Events - Deep Shallow Dive

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Hey, what's up everybody? Happy Wednesday.
I'm sorry, seriously, I really am.
I am so sorry. I have been very LAX with these

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audio only podcast. Actually, I will share something
pretty interesting. So well, first of all, I just
have a lot going on business wise.
I'm trying to get a few different ventures off the
ground and look at some new opportunities and all that jazz.
So anyway, hopefully I'll be, I'll be reporting back some
interesting things along those lines soon.
But you know, this is interesting.

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On the podcast I have, you know,when I was doing my interviews
for a long time, I thought, man,people are not into the
interviews. And you know, I'd ask various
friends like, hey, do you preferwhen I just talk or do you
prefer the interviews? And honestly, most of the time
people were like, I'd rather just hear you.
And it's totally different now. At least that's what the data is

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showing me. My interviews are really getting
a lot of listens and almost twice as many as my audio only
podcast. So that's been part of this.
I've kind of been like, Oh my God, maybe people prefer to hear
me interview guests. And if that's the case, you're
going to be in luck because I'vegot 2 amazing interviews that

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I'm doing today and I'll try to get those out this week.
And I still have a couple in thequeue.
So anyway, I do apologize, I really do.
I've I've, I've kind of missed being behind this microphone.
But at the same time, maybe it'sgiving people a chance to catch
up and all that. You know, I will say, I say that
a lot, don't I, I will say it's a beast, man.

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This world is a beast right now.Like what is going on as a beast
staying on top of all this stuff, like especially the
geopolitical things, you know, I, I, I really, I really do want
to start pivoting back toward a lot more of the health stuff and
a lot more the AI stuff even. And by the way, for those of

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you, I mean, I said this before a few episodes ago, man, if you
have a Gmail or a Google workplace account, Google is
really like raising the bar whenit comes to leveraging basically
their Gemini into their various products.
It's ridiculously good, especially for e-mail, for

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anybody that is using their phone to write and reply,
especially to reply to emails. And if you've got a Gmail
account or I should say a GoogleWorkplace account, it might even
be available in freethefreeversionofyourgmaillikeyouknowifyouhavelikeyourname@gmail.com.

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But there's a little Gemini button, especially on the phone
and it's also on your browser and you ask it for help writing
an e-mail and it is ridiculouslygood, especially for the work
related stuff or anything related to what you need to get
done in terms of in terms of, you know, replying to, you know,

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I don't know, customer service oriented things and all that.
So man, things have come so far so fast with this AI
integration. All right, anyway, I'm going to
get to all that. I'm going to get back into all
that, and then I've got some good health guests coming on and
all that jazz. OK, what did I want to talk
about? All right, here's what I want to
talk about, man. What is going on in terms of the

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Republican Party, MAGA and just in general?
Let's talk about this for a little bit.
So think about 60 days ago, 75 days ago.
Remember how crazy it was in terms of Tucker Carlson and
Candace Owens basically attacking Nick Fuentes?
Remember, remember when that happened?

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And that was kind of the the first time, in all honesty, I
lost a little bit of respect forTucker and Candace because I
thought they were a little out of line the way they were going
at Nick. So this is crazy.
I looked the other day at InsideSpotify for Podcasters or
Spotify for Creators as it's called now.

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There's a way where it ranks your episodes, and this is wild.
My number one episode of all time, I'm talking of the 300 and
who knows what. I'm on 80 something episodes.
My current now #1 and this is all taking place over the past

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30 days. My number one listen to episode
ever is episode #352 Candace Owens versus Nick Fuentes.
How crazy is that? So obviously people are going
into Spotify or Apple Podcasts or something and they must be
searching for Nick Fuentes. And I guess my episode is coming

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up as something because that episode now is literally my
number one episode ever followedby episode #370 which talked
about Charlie Kirk. Who benefits, Who reacts to
Charlie Kirk's death? How crazy is that?
Though? The Nick Fuentes thing is pretty
nuts. And man, that kid has gone

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absolutely bonkers mainstream. And well, I shouldn't say main
mainstream yet, but he's really upped his profile.
If you did not see, he ended up going on Tucker Carlson.
He did an interview on Tucker Carlson.
Oh, I think I did talk about that.
You know, they, they went from being visceral against each

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other to it was a it was an excellent episode.
It was a very enlightening episode between the two of them.
Now Candace is still, you know, she, she talks about Nick,
obviously now she still says, you guys know I don't like Nick
Fontes because of the way he treated me, which again, God, I
hate to say it, but man, that isdefinitely a strike against

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Candace because if anything, shetreated Nick poorly during that
interview. But watch, I bet you mark my
words, I bet you in a week or two there will be another sit
down between Nick and Candace. And I guarantee you it'll be
much more civil, much more cordial in terms of their

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interaction with each other versus that first one.
So it makes me think was all of that, you know, by design?
I don't know. I mean, it's plausible.
It's definitely plausible. Obviously, you know, maybe they
coordinated that between the three of em by design to say,
hey, let's let's pretend we don't like each other.

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That'll get a bunch of press andthen we'll bring it back full
circle. I don't know, maybe that maybe
that really isn't the case. But I do find it interesting
that him and Tucker went from such a visceral hate to, you
know, what seems to be a 1-2 punch right now in terms of
going up against, really going up against the side of the

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Conservative Party and the Republican Party That it, it, it
man, the lines are being drawn. It's, it's basically like
America first versus, I don't want to say Israel first because
I don't think these Americans are necessarily Israel first.

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I'm talking the regular Americans, maybe Jewish
Americans might be. And again, that's their
prerogative. I'm not even judging any of
that. But I'm saying regular Americans
that are, that are, let's say Christian in orientation or in
in religion. And really it comes down to
falling under that evangelical Christian banner that that

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really is the bread and butter of the Republican Party.
I think that that faction is is is a supporter of that
judeo-christian mentality and mindset.
And those folks, you know, kind of are standing on one side and
then you've got really another huge side of regular white

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America Christians and Catholics.
And I will say this is being spear, spear LED.
I was about to say spear LED, spear LED.
What the heck is that? This is being LED or, or what's
the spear word I'm looking for spearheaded.
Oh my God, that's the word. It's being LED and spearheaded

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by Tucker Carlson and Nick Fuentes and Candace to an
extent. But Candace right now, I think
is she, she's running point on the, the Charlie Kirk stuff.
Like she is absolutely running point on everything and anything
related to not believing the, the official narrative of

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Charlie Kirk. And then you've got Tucker
Carlson and Nick Fuentes really advocating for the American
government and Trump administration to, let's say,
put the put the needs of the American people first.
So that's what's going on. And it is a, it is a huge

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division. It is absolutely huge division.
There's, you know, there's battle lines being drawn, battle
lines being drawn. Nobody is right if everybody is
wrong. Young people speak in their
mind. That actually is true, man.
Young people are speaking their mind.
Holy mackerel guys like my boy Jeb Ball.

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Jeb is great, man. Jeb is really building his
social media platform. And by the way, I don't know if
you've been watching these Turning Point USA events.
It started with it really started with Jeb.
I mean, he was absolutely the OG, the OG young G, the OG Gen.
Z young G and his his questioning of Glenn Beck led to

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the next one, which was who was the next one?
I believe it was Tucker Carlson.Tucker Carlson got questioned by
kids at the turning point USA and then it ended up being Eric
Trump and Laura Trump, Eric and his wife Laura.
And then they got grilled. Maybe I'll maybe I'll play that

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clip. Actually, I will let me play
that clip. By the way, this is a Turning
Point USA student. Bro is baritone, He's got a
great voice. I'd like to ask about your
father's relationship with Israel.
He's taken over $230 million from pro Israel groups during
the summer against Iran. Even though he advised against

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it, Israel still attacked Iran and the US still bombed on
behalf of Israel. Your father's frustrations with
the Netanyahu have been made clear when he cursed on national
TV over the situation. Israel has not been a great ally
to the US all the way since 1960when they bombed the USS
Liberty. Israel is a nation where

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Christians are constantly under attack in both Gaza and the West
Bank. We talk about America first and
defending Christians, but how can we do this if we align
ourselves with a nation that does not do that itself?
There's no question my father, my.
Father said frustration. In fact, I think he said

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frustration throughout the wholeconflict with with both sides at
the same time. So that was the first part of
it. And then there was something
about the nuclear weapon. So there.
Here's this kids second follow up question.
In response to the nukes my Iran, Israel has nuclear weapons
and is not a part of the IEA. Unlocked Iran and it's just sad

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to see because I've never seen the American president get
treated the way he does by the Israeli government.
I am telling you this young Generation Z, these guys are on
top of it. They really have a unbelievable
knowledge of really history. And then at the same time, they

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don't carry, I guess that that baggage of being told a certain
thing for so many years. So it's very interesting what's
going to happen. I mean, that was with Eric and
Laura Trump. Like I said, there was another
one with Tucker Carlson. That one was equally, that one
was equally inquisitive. Let's put it that way.

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I completely forgot if I talked about the one with Tucker
Carlson. I'm still surprised Turning
Point USA even invited Tucker again, because what is taking
place between Candace Owens and Turning Point USAI can't say
it's a direct war, although it it kind of is because the

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Turning Point USA organization, which again, if you don't
remember or don't know, that's Charlie Kirk's former
organization. Erica Kirk, Charlie's wife, is
now the CEO of that organization.
And for all intents and purposes, they have moved on
from Charlie's assassination. And they basically seem to just

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kind of go with the with the official narrative.
Now, again, maybe maybe because of the ongoing, you know, FBI
investigation, maybe they're sort of forced to do that.
I don't know. I mean, that's definitely
plausible. Honestly, it really is.
And you've got Candace, you know, basically not believing
that official narrative. So she's trying to find her own

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truth. Now, that truth is in direct
conflict with the way Turning Point USA is running things.
But here's where the rubber is going to meet the road on that
stuff. You know, Candace has not called
out Erica Kirk, Charlie's widow at all, really.
There's been a couple things she's talked about.

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If anything, though, collectively I'd say she's been
more what's the word I'm lookingfor?
She's been more appreciative of Erica.
No, that's not really the word. She's been, she's been, Oh my
God, what word am I looking complimentary?

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That's the damn word. She's been complimentary of
Erica Kirk, which again is very SUS because her entire audience
to all the people that love Candace, they're not
complimentary of Erica Kirk. They think Erica has been very
SUS. So the fact that Candace has not
gone at Erica Kirk. Now, here's the flip side of

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that. Erica Kirk has not gone at
Candace. I mean, that's surprising as
well. So with those two things in
play, you know, if you listen tothe episode with Ian went, you
know, he's he. His theory is that Erica is
Candace's mole. You know, she's feeding Candace

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information behind the scenes, but in the public spotlight,
spotlight, spotlight, she kind of has to toe the company line.
I don't know, man. We'll see.
That is definitely interesting. I will say if if Erica and
Candace start to go at each other, then, you know, that's

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not in play anymore. But right now, I mean, is it
plausible? Yeah, it definitely could be.
I mean, I find it hard to believe with is with is is big
of an actress. I feel like Erica Kirk is being
every time she takes the stage or does an interview or
anything, it's just so dramatic.But again, why isn't Candace

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calling that out? I don't know, man, that's
interesting. All right, let me see.
Let me see what other clips I want to play for you guys.
Oh, by the way, this is wild. So Candace Owens literally has
the number one podcast show in the world.
Supposedly. I don't really know who vets
these, but 3.6 million daily downloads.

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Candace Owens number one podcastin the world.
Media gatekeepers are finished. Owens is obliterating CNNMSNBC
and every legacy outlet in the process.
That is true man. She is definitely killing it.
And yeah, I guess she is the number one podcast in the world.

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That's that's a big deal, man. That is a big deal.
All right, we're going to bouncearound like crazy because I've
got like, literally an entire phone of clips I need to play
for you guys. OK, 911 Building 7 is getting
back into the social media mix. And oh, man, I'm telling you,
Pandora's box is open. All right, give this a listen.

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This was a recent Tucker Carlsonepisode.
What? You had three.
Buildings come down sort. Of.
Claps in on themselves. Implode.
It looked like and. Like a lot of.
People have said many credible non crazy people.
Have said that was. Controlled demolition was it?
I mean when you have 3000 peopledie you would think it would be

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a full massive investigation. Not going after 911 obviously,
but what happened to the buildings and why they come
down? They're the only high rise
buildings in the world that haveever come down from an airplane
hitting them. And those buildings?
I read the report from the architect who designed them.
They were designed to withstand an airplane hitting the building
and standing tall. You know, I just realized this

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is from his episode with former Congressman Kurt Weldon.
So it's not that recent. This is probably six months ago.
But for some reason, this clip was like flying over and flying
around Instagram again. All right, let's listen to the
rest. It's actually very interesting
clip with the former CongressmanKurt Weldon.
I should try to get that guy on.I probably can.

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And especially building 7, whichhad no plane hit it right, no
plane hit it. And the building just you can
see it when you watch it on TV, it just implodes straight down.
And what really got got me againwas the Oriole Palmer that the
Italian chief arising on the well tell us who he was.
What is Oriole Palmer was one ofthe most inspirational battalion

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chiefs in New York, FDNYFDNY, who immediately in very good
shape, had a family, a couple ofkids went in the building.
Soon as they got on the scene, took the elevator up to the 40th
floor. Get off the elevator and you can
hear him on the Comm system say I'm here, 40th floor, we're
going to start walking up the stairwells.
Every five floors, he radios back to communication.

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I'm on the 50th floor, everything's OK.
We're on floor 60, Everything's OK.
He's going up every so many floors, he gives a report.
He reaches a 78th floor, the floor of impact.
He comes out of the stair tower.And as clear as you listening to
me here, and I know I get passion and I apologize to
listeners for that. He says we're on floor 78, the

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floor of impact. We've got 2 fires and we can
handle them. One minute later, the whole
building collapses. That's not normal.
That is not acceptable. That is not what happened.
And this is on tape. It's on tape.
The film is called B7. And if your viewers want it, if

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they contact you, I'll give it to you.
It's free. It was produced not by
Hollywood. It was produced by firefighters.
And it includes the footage, including the firefighter of the
the footage of the firefighter communication between him and
the command center. You can hear him as plain as day
saying I'm on the impact floor, floor 78.
We have two fires here. We can control them.

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And he's comfortable. He's not worrying about the
building collapsing. He just walked up 38 floors.
And the whole building collapses, Tucker.
It's a big lie. That is wild.
I will try to find that clip in that movie.
Let me see if I can actually find anything in terms of that
right now. All right, so check this out.
Look what I found. So this firefighter, his name

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was Oriole Palmer. And here's an interview with
what looks like it's either his kids or his grandkids.
We just. Are.
So lucky to know. Exactly what he did that day,
the. Guy is 7 on 440th tower tool.
We got one elevator working up to the 40th floor.
Palmer was among the first to arrive at the World Trade Center

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after the 9/11 attack. There's.
No units there yet. He helped repair the FDNY's
malfunctioning radios, and the recordings preserved the sounds
of his frantic race to save those trapped on the South
Tower's upper floors. I'm gonna.
Have to hook it. I'm on.
I'm on 69 now so we need a high advice.
In a little over 1/2 hour, Oreo Palmer climbed on foot from the

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40th to the 78th floor, all while wearing some 60 lbs.
Of firefighting gear. I'm.
Still in voice. Stairway, 74th floor.
No smoke. A fire problem.
Eventually, Palmer made it to anarea where hundreds of people
were struggling to stay alive. I.
Tried the pockets of fire, we should be able to knock it down
with two. Eyes for a helmet and like a

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fireman to appear in what may have seemed as a hopeless
situation, I have to imagine that it was the hope that they.
Needed. Just 7 minutes after this
transmission, the South tower collapsed.
How powerful. It is to.

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Be able to hear his voice and every.
Like go through his. Steps.
It's kind of an an amazing thing.
It just is also complicated. Definitely complicated.
Man, that stuff is wild. Like if you think about all the
tragedy that took place for all those people with from 911, I

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mean, obviously the ones that perished in the building and the
planes and all that, that is just heartbreaking.
But then all of those firefighters and, and EMS and
emergency and all the first responders and Oh my God, so
many lives ruined. And then think about it.
Think about what that launched, that that attack launched the

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War on Terror. It'll, it launched 20 years of
forever war in Iraq and Afghanistan.
You know, millions. I mean, I think like upwards of
many millions of innocent civilians died in Iraq and
Afghanistan, $8 trillion. Like that's just insane.

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Like it is insane the ramifications of these events.
They are coming to the forefront.
I'm telling you, that's what I talk about when I when I say
Pandora's box has been open. And you know, people are asking
questions. They're absolutely asking
questions. And again, you know, let's see

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what those answers to those questions end up being.
But, but I will tell you whetherit's the young generation or
even the older generation, definitely Gen.
Z is spearheading it and they'renot having it, man.
They are absolutely not having it.
And these kids are going back and they're researching
everything almost with like a fresh set of eyes and a clean

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slate. Actually, I'll give you an
amazing analogy. So obviously I've had a lot of,
you know, religious discussions on the podcast.
And for those of you that listento the episode with Reverend
Munther Isaac, that was honestly, I know I'm going to
say it again, one of my favoriteepisodes.
It was so good. You should watch it.

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I really think it was it was really good.
I thought we had a really, really enlightening, you know,
religious conversation. And I'm telling you, as an
outsider, I look at this stuff with fresh eyes.
I really do like. And many times it's easier for
an outsider looking in to see things.
So I think what's going on with Gen.

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Z right now and all of these situations, whether it's
Ukraine, Russia, whether it's Gaza, Israel, Palestine, that
area, whether it's Iran, whetherit's looking back at 911,
whether it's JFK assassination, whether it's the moon landing,
You know what, whenever they're going back and analyzing,

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they're doing it with a fresh set of eyes and no baggage.
And they're almost like I'm talking about Gen.
Z. It's that outsider looking in
mentality. And I'm telling you, sometimes
you truly see things more clear or clearly or clearer when you
have that. And I think that's what's

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happening with Gen. Z.
OK, Anyway, I'm going to leave you with one more clip.
I'm going to drive home this religious thing.
And the reason I'm doing this ishonestly, I think that this this
division between Christians and Muslims is so manufactured.
It really is. Oh my God.

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By the way, if, if any of you know any real Muslims out there,
not me, I am definitely not one a real Muslim.
If any of you know any real Muslims, go ask them.
Just ask them their opinion on Jesus.
Ask them their opinion on MotherMary.
I think you're going to be incredibly blown away with their
answer, and it's going to be something like this.

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Jesus is in the Quran and he's called the Messiah.
Here is a truth that will shock a lot of Christians.
Muslims believe in Jesus and notjust casually in Islam.
Jesus is on Arabic is one of themost important prophets of all
time. He was born to the Virgin Mary,
He performed miracles, He healedthe sick, He raised the dead.

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And yes, he is called Al Masih, the Messiah.
That is not a typo. The Quran calls him Messiah,
born without a father, sent by God, full of wisdom and power.
So what is the difference? Muslims do not believe Jesus was
divine. They do not believe he was
crucified. They believe he was raised by
God and will return at the end of time.
Think about that. Islam believes Jesus is coming

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back not as God but as a sign ofthe final hour to restore
justice and defeat evil. So the next time someone says
Islam is anti Christian ask themthis.
Why does their holy book? All right, so again, my point of
all that is that Muslims love Jesus Christ and Christians love
Jesus Christ. So like, that seems like a

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pretty big thing to be on the same page about.
Therefore, everything else, I'm very surprised you can't make it
work and they can. I'm telling you, every time I
post something like this on the deep shallow dive page, you have
Christians and Muslims both likeprofessing their love for each

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other. It's pretty crazy, man.
I'm telling you, it is crazy. It is crazy.
OK, I said we were going to jumparound all over the place topics
wise, and we're absolutely goingto do that again.
Here is me bringing health back into the mix and hopefully,
hopefully you guys have stayed around long enough to hear this,
But this is a really interestingclip from a doctor that talks

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about basically the signs that you should pay attention to that
lead up to having a stroke. So obviously I don't want anyone
to ever have a stroke. And so maybe by by learning some
of the warning signs are you canpay attention to what you know
those can be. So give this a listen.

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A month before a stroke happens,your body is already sending you
warning signs. Please pay attention.
I'm a neurologist and I've witnessed the devastating
effects of stroke first hand. What saddens me the most is that
in many cases, the body had already sent clear warning
signs, but we missed them. Today, I'm here to share these
signals with you. Stay alert and don't forget to

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remind your loved ones as well. First signal, unexplained nausea
and dizziness. Patients often tell me that for
weeks before coming to the hospital, they felt nauseous,
light headed or unbalanced, thinking it was simply caused by
stress, hot weather, or lack of sleep.
However, these could be symptomsof impaired blood flow to the
brain. If obvious causes like

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pregnancy, infection, or poisoning are ruled out, getting
checked by a doctor is crucial. 2nd signal severe fatigue and
chronic headaches. This isn't just typical fatigue.
It's a relentless, overwhelming exhaustion, one that doesn't
improve even with proper rest. If you're also experiencing
frequent or worsening headaches,it might be an early indicator

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of stress on your nervous systemor cellular energy metabolism.
These symptoms require close attention.
That was actually very interesting.
There's a second part to that. I actually will download it and
then maybe I'll play that whole thing again another time.
But anyway, that was definitely interesting.
All right, everybody coming up on 30 minutes.
Anyway, again, my apologies for missing and being a little MIAI

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am back and hopefully Thursday we'll have one of these
interviews to listen to and thenI'll try to come back on Friday.
So maybe we'll we will salvage 3episodes this week.
So all right, that's it. Call a spade a spade, call your
parents and let me know any feedback and actually let me
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