November 18, 2025 • 30 mins
🎙️ EP#390 | DSD | The Ivermectin Playbook, Vaccine Controversies & America First Cracks
In this bombshell episode, Ray unpacks the COVID-era censorship of ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine, exposing how these dirt-cheap, out-of-patent drugs were villainized to make room for the vaccine narrative. Dr. Mary Tally Bowden and Dr. Peter McCullough take center stage with powerful commentary on government overreach, media manipulation, and the suppression of early COVID treatments. Ray also highlights the growing pushback on childhood vaccines, referencing explosive claims from the World Council for Health and peer-reviewed data showing the risks of over-vaccination.
But that’s just the start. Ray dives headfirst into the cracks within MAGA and Trump’s ongoing war with figures like Marjorie Taylor Greene, while also spotlighting the realignment of the conservative movement around “America First.” He doesn’t shy away from naming names—Rand Paul, Thomas Massie, and Nick Fuentes all make appearances in this bold breakdown. Then, it’s back to ivermectin, this time as a skincare miracle with claims from Dr. William Makis that it treats everything from rosacea to skin cancer. Ray even volunteers himself as a test subject.
To cap it off, Ray teases two powerhouse interviews—Dr. McCullough and Royce White—digging into the big bad wolf theory, Hamas and Al-Qaeda’s strange silence on Israel, the Mossad-Epstein connection, and a chilling new theory about the Charlie Kirk incident. With spicy commentary and razor-sharp takes, this episode goes deep into the weeds of health, politics, and the shadow games most people are too scared to talk about.
🔥 Top 5 Key Points
The government systematically suppressed ivermectin to push vaccine compliance.
Childhood vaccine safety is being seriously questioned by international organizations.
Trump vs. MAGA: The conservative movement is splintering.
Ivermectin cream shows promise for major skin conditions and even cancers.
Epstein’s blackmail operation was likely intelligence-backed and intentionally buried.
🔑 Keywords & Themes
COVID censorship, Ivermectin, Hydroxychloroquine, Vaccine mandates, Childhood vaccines, Dr. Peter McCullough, Dr. Mary Tally Bowden, Dr. William Makis, Trump vs MTG, MAGA fractures, America First, Nick Fuentes, RFK Jr., Epstein Mossad, CIA blackmail, Gaza war, Hamas theory, Royce White, Royce White interview, Jason Whitlock fallout, Skin cancer treatment, Rosacea cure, Autism-vaccine link, Sudden infant death, Neuropsychiatric issues, Political psyops
⏳ Chapters & Timestamps
00:00 – Opening Clip: Dr. Mary Tally Bowden on Ivermectin Suppression
01:25 – Ray’s Intro & Lead-in to Dr. McCullough
02:55 – Childhood Vaccines Under Fire
04:28 – Why Is Questioning the Narrative So Taboo?
06:20 – Dr. McCullough: Vaccines & Neuropsychiatric Disorders
08:35 – MAGA vs Trump: It’s Getting Ugly
10:31 – Ivermectin Cream for Skin Issues (Dr. William Makis)
14:30 – Skin Cancer Claims & Ray’s Own Experiment
15:29 – Long COVID and Ivermectin: Ray’s Frustration with a Friend
18:13 – The Boogeyman Theory: Hamas, ISIS & Al-Qaeda
20:44 – Epstein’s Intelligence Ties with CIA Insider Commentary
23:33 – Epstein’s “Seat Fillers” and Ray’s Prediction
24:47 – Royce White Interview Tease & Gaza-Israel Truth Bomb
27:52 – Charlie Kirk Assassination Site Cover-Up
30:30 – Wrap Up & Zippix Toothpick Sponsor Message
🔥 Top 7 Key Points
💊 Ivermectin Was Systematically Suppressed🧠Vaccine Load Linked to Neurological Disorders🧴 Ivermectin Cream May Treat Skin Cancer💉 Childhood Vaccine Moratorium Gains Traction🇺🇸 Trump vs. MAGA Fracture Is Widening🕵️‍♂️ Epstein's Blackmail Network Tied to Intelligence🎙️ Royce White's Take on Gaza Ages Like Wine
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OK, let's go. First it was hydroxychloroquine,
then it was Ivermectin. Both were proven to get rid of
COVID. So why did the government shut
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both of these down? What is your theory on what
happened here? What was this about?
It was an orchestrated attack and it was all meant to promote
the COVID shot. So you look at March 2021, only
10% of the population had gottenthese shots.
Government was nervous about that.
The FDA put something on their website telling people not to
take Ivermectin for COVID. April 1st, 2021, Methodist
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Hospital becomes the first in the country to mandate the
shots. That's five months before Biden.
Same day, April 1st, 2021, Bidenlaunches COVID-19 community core
$10 billion propaganda program. Just boatloads of money going
out to influencers, church groups, sports groups to promote
the safe and effective narrativeof the vaccine.
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The medical board started comingafter doctors all over the
country who are promoting ivermectin.
Couple weeks later Biden mandates the shots and takes
away monoclonal antibodies. If you look at the timeline,
it's very clear. Hey, what's up, everybody?
Happy Tuesday. Hope you guys had a good
weekend. All right, That was Doctor Mary
Talley Bowden. I'm trying to get her on the
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podcast. Man, it is pretty crazy.
We are five years removed from all that stuff.
And the reason I play that is because I'm actually recording
today with Doctor Peter McCullough, who was one of the
main doctors that gosh, I think got put through the ringer.
But he also was one of the main doctors that has sounded the
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alarm and, and was sounding the alarm from the get go when it
comes to COVID and the mask mandates and then leading to the
vaccine and all that. So this lady, I really liked
that clip because it talks aboutivermectin and and
hydroxychloroquine and all that stuff.
Which man, how crazy is it to think back at how bad that stuff
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was vilified? But in terms of ivermectin in
particular, man, this, this drug, which is like a parasitic
drug, it's something I'm going to talk to Doctor McCullough
quite a bit about. But it is really like, oh, my
voice just cracked. It is just, it is really has
unbelievable benefits, but it's not touted because it's out of
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patent and it costs like four cents a pill.
I mean, I'm kidding about that. But it's dirt cheap.
So there's no money in it. But Doctor McCullough here, let
me play a clip for you guys because I will definitely try to
get this interview out this week.
What we've learned is this childhood vaccine schedule is
not what we thought. And now critically looking at
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it, we have a situation that we just learned that the World
Council for Health, now international body is calling
for a complete moratorium on childhood vaccines.
First international organizationto call for that.
Why? Because the vaccines are piling
up one after another. They're being given in multiple
salvos. There are safety events now that
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we learned in 1986, the US passed legislation that
indemnified the manufacturers ofvaccines.
In that legislation, it says thevaccines have unavoidable harm.
It says that it So what are the harms that we're seeing?
It's clear when the vaccines aregiven in mult multiple rounds.
It's probably not no single vaccine and no single additive,
but it's the sum total of vaccine is given at once.
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Let me jump in real quick. You know, obviously I don't have
kids of my own, but I guess I would ask this question to all
of you with kids. You know, how, how is it?
I know the process of getting kids vaccinated is almost forced
on you, at least here in the United States.
But like, I'm so curious, gosh, I hope none of you have
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experienced issues with your kids due to the vaccination
process, but I'm curious if anybody has.
I'm trying to actually see if I can find some people that that
are willing to speak on that a little bit, even if in
anonymity. Like even if you wanted to tell
me about it. And obviously I'll never use
your name or anything, but you know what I find crazy about
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that entire situation is just the the oh God, well, how do I
want to describe this? Like, I don't understand why
it's just not OK to ask questions.
You know, it's another, it's another scenario of like, what
is the big deal about just like asking questions and wanting to
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understand. Obviously that applied during
COVID and and it's it's happening again.
It's happening now with the Republican Party like like the
Charlie Kirk stuff. I would throw that in there.
You know, people are getting yelled at for asking questions
and poking holes in that official narrative.
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That is wild, man. That is wild.
Everything. Honestly, if you follow the
money and follow the greed, it pretty much explains, you know,
behavior that that in my opinion, doesn't fall under the
rational common sense category. And so like, even with childhood
vaccines, and Dr. McCullough talks a lot about, you know, all
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kinds of vaccines, adults vaccines as well.
And I'm going to get into all that with him.
But again, my, I guess my, my, my, my confusion, not confusion,
but I just never understand why some people get so triggered if
you just are asking questions. And I'm not even talking people
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in the medical community. I'm talking like normal people.
Like, I've got friends that overthe years, especially over the
past few years, when I've talkedabout not even the COVID
vaccine, when I've talked about other vaccines, like vaccines
for their children, they just goberserk.
And I'm like, what is your deal?Are you on some kind of payroll?
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Like, that doesn't make any sense.
Anyway, let's listen to the restof this little spiel from Doctor
McCullough. We're seeing a strong signal
towards neuropsychiatric disorders so attention deficit
disorder, Asperger's, autism, seizures, allergic diseases,
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asthma, atopic dermatitis, need for termination, sudden infant
death syndrome and then the converse.
Now this is the converse which is papers by Mawson, Hooker,
Miller, Thomas and an older Amish study.
All 5 studies show if children go natural, no vaccines
whatsoever, they have the best outcomes.
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Freedom from. It got cut off there.
Man, That is pretty crazy. That is seriously pretty crazy.
And obviously, the data shows a direct correlation between the
rise of autism and the rise of vaccines.
Like, how is this that controversial?
I just don't get it. Anyway, I will definitely get
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that episode out. And, you know, I'm going to
actually ask him some good stuff, some good stuff.
Talk about make America healthy again, Robert F Kennedy, you
know, is that is that amounting to anything?
I'm going to get into the DoctorFauci stuff.
I think it'll be a good one. All right, really quick, man.
I don't know what is going on with America and the really the
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Republican Party. It is.
It is fracturing like in a big way.
And over the weekend, President Trump like went ballistic
against Marjorie Taylor Green. And we've talked about Marjorie
Taylor Green quite a bit this year.
And, you know, at first I thought, gosh, maybe she's being
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she's being empowered to be the way she is.
But I don't think that necessarily is the case.
Well, maybe it is, maybe it is, who knows.
But I will say Trump finally came out and really like went at
her and talked about like primarying her and I think he
called her a lunatic and basically group tour with Thomas
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Massie and Rand Paul, both guys that I like.
And it is backfiring in his face.
It really is. He is really like losing
support. But I don't know if he cares.
I really don't. I don't think he cares.
I think that for whatever reason.
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And again, what what episode wasit?
I forget who I talked about thiswith.
Maybe it was Jeb Ball we talked about.
Yeah, I think it was Jeb where Isaid 2016 Trump and 2020 Trump
and 2020 four Trump pre pre inauguration are not the same
human being as 2025 post inauguration Trump.
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So the question becomes did something change?
Is he under quote UN quote duress or I don't know.
Was this the greatest psyop in history?
Who the heck knows. But I will tell you MAGA is.
I think Maga's dead. I don't even think MAGA really
exists anymore because all of the people that were really MAGA
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are like burning their they're burning their red hats and
posting it on social media. Have you guys seen this?
This is pretty crazy. People are like they're either
taking their hat off and throwing it in the garbage their
their red MAGA hat or they're literally burning them, which is
crazy. So anyway, we shall see what
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happens. They are now embracing America
first. That is kind of the movement.
And you really have to give thatcredit to that movement to Nick
Fuentes. It's kind of, it's the name of
his show. It's really the name of his his
brand to a big extent. So anyway, it is going to be
interesting to see what happens.You know, Trump definitely is
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taking tremendous heat. But again, I just don't think he
cares. I don't think he cares.
And I think that for whatever reason, obviously he knows what
is happening and he's just not addressing it.
And he's doubling and tripling and quadrupling down.
All right, you know what? I think I've now embraced the
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motto of jumping around in theseepisodes.
Let's jump back into health realquick because I did want to play
this clip again about ivermectin.
And this is ivermectin in cream form.
And this is a good doctor named Doctor William Mackus.
This guy's awesome. He's really again, he was not
another one of the truth tellersduring the COVID stuff.
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Acting paste Ivermectin cream isactually FDA approved for the
treatment of rosacea. A lot of people don't know that,
but Ivermectin cream is actuallyFDA approved.
Your dermatologist can prescribeit.
So again, he's talking about ivermectin paste or ivermectin
cream. And what I find fascinating is
that it is FDA approved for dermatology stuff like for skin
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related issues. So if any of you are suffering
from it, give this a listen. Now the of course the doctors
hesitate to prescribe it, but it's a 1% ivormectin cream.
You could treat rosacea. The ivormectin horse paste is
actually 1.87%, so it's stronger.
It's almost twice as strong. You can literally use it for any
inflammatory or autoimmune skin condition.
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It'll treat cystic acne, which is the worst possible acne you
can have, and it'll clear it completely.
That's amazing. That is, I actually had a cystic
acne situation years ago and that's that is the worst acne
possible. I had like one giant.
It's like a boil man. That thing was gnarly.
That thing was super gnarly. I wish I had known about
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ivermectin prior to this. But again, if any of you are
suffering from any skin related issues, you know, please pay
attention to this. Reach out to me to talk about
ivermectin for sure, but then doyour own research.
I don't even want to say talk toyour doctor because chances are
your doctor's going to say no, no, that stuff is crazy.
That's conspiracy theorist stuff.
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And you know what? It's not the reason they say
that is because a, they don't spend the time to do the
research. And secondly, the big pharma
companies are putting so much money to not allow something
like ivermectin, which is incredibly inexpensive to
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manufacture and prescribe and use.
They don't want that. It's not financially beneficial.
It'll clear eczema, like I said,in many cases it will clear
psoriasis. But most impressive of all, it
will clear skin cancers. And I now have tons of
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testimonials from patients who had either basal cell carcinoma,
squamous cell carcinoma, Melanoma.
They started applying the horse paste twice a day.
Within a couple of weeks you seethe the lesion, the skin lesion
start changing. You can see it just after a
couple of weeks of application, the lesion starts changing, it
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starts getting smaller. And after a month or two, it may
fall off completely and it's gone.
This is seriously insane. This is insane that now again,
you know, for those of you that might be a naysayer in this, my,
my retort would be why what? Why do you not believe in this
doctor? You know, this guy's a medical
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doctor like every other medical doctor that might be saying
something you believe in. You know, why would you not take
what he says into account? It's really pretty crazy, man.
We have. We have, we've like lived in
this world where where asking questions is just so frowned
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upon. And I just don't get it.
I really don't get it. And and for me, anything that
has a financial benefit, let alone an unbelievable financial
benefit for one side of of the equation, to me, that always
should be something we question.All right, let's listen to the
rest of this. You can treat any skin cancer
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with ivermectin paste, the horsepaste, the 8-9 dollar horse
paste that you know you get at whatever veterinary supply.
That's crazy. You know what?
I'm going to try something. I actually have dry hands.
I've always kind of had dry hands my whole life.
They're not too bad right now, but I kind of do have on the
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dryer side of hands. I'm going to get some ivermectin
horse paste. I don't know where the heck I'm
going to get that from. Maybe I'll go to a vet, a vet
store, see if I can get some andI'm going to.
I'm going to put put his theory to test.
Let's see what happens. All right, Anyway, my point is
anybody, by the way, anybody outthere that's suffering with long
COVID, I have one friend. I'm not going to name her name.
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I know she's not listening, but I'm not going to name her name
because I think friends of hers listen.
And they'll probably tell her that I named her name and then
they'll tell her and then she'llcall me up and yell at me even
though I didn't name her name. But that's how she is.
So she has long COVID. And this girl, I think I've
talked about her before, maybe Ihave.
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Anyway, she's such a knuckleheadbecause she posts all these like
woe is me stuff on Facebook and all that, and I'm just over it.
I'm over it because I have tried10 different times to tell her
hey you've tried everything elsejust try ivermectin see what
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happens. There's a lot of clinical data
showing that it cures people's long COVID, sometimes as soon as
24 to 48 hours. And she just refuses to even
try. So, so when she posts her what
was me images of how her life has changed.
I don't even, I mean, I do feel bad still, but not really
because, you know, she tries like, you know, acupuncture
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using porcupine needles. I'm making that up.
But she tries all these crazy cockamamie stuff and then she
won't try this because of, you know, whatever.
I, I don't know if it's her politics, if it's her cognitive
dissonance, but anyway, it's hard for me to like empathize
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with her, although that's so bad.
I should empathize anyway. But anyway, I might try one more
time to tell her to give ivermectin a shot and we'll see.
We'll see. Maybe we'll see after what the
interview with Doctor McCullough, what that Nets out.
Oh, by the way, I don't know if you got a chance to listen to
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Thursday. I believe it's Thursday.
Yeah, my bad. For only two episodes last week,
Thursday's episode with Kawa. Man, I thought that was a such
an interesting episode. And I'm not going to ruin it for
those that haven't listened to it yet, but I highly recommend
you go back. I know I say that every
interview, but I really do. You know, here's a guy that
that, you know, has a really interesting story.
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First of all, he's a total badass like Green Beret, you
know, Army Special forces went to Iraq and Afghanistan and he
is Afghani. So like imagine being from that
country and then being being in that country on behalf of the
United States during all that time post 911 and then basically
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having to kind of kill your killyour countrymen.
That's a little bit that's a little bit tough to swallow,
man. I know there's definitely some
some long term PTSD with that that he's dealing with.
We didn't really get into that in the episode, but it was a
really good episode. We talked about so many
different things and I'll tell you one of the things we talked
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about and it just speaks to, youknow, my my personal theory
about the concept of the boogeyman and the big bad wolf.
And, you know, there always has to be, you know, that enemy and
that something to fight in orderfor there to be fear and in
order for that military industrial complex to flourish.
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And you know, I mean, I think Hamas is, is falls into that
category. I really do.
The more and more I think about this and you know, I know I've
brought on several Palestinian folks and nobody really agrees
with me that much, although I dohave a couple that I might bring
on. They actually agree with me.
Maybe I'll bring them on literally just because they
agree with me. But anyway, I think they do fall
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into that category and I think they fall into the big bad wolf,
the boogeyman. And the other two that that that
always seemed weird to me was AlQaeda and this ISIS.
And the reason they're weird is because they supposedly their
quote UN quote charter. I find that hilarious that these
like terrorist organizations have like a mission statement
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and a charter that's like super goofy.
But you know, supposedly they hate Israel and they hate the
Jewish people and all that, but they literally never attack
Israel. Like that doesn't make any
sense. It just doesn't make any sense.
Al Qaeda and ISIS, you know, thetwo probably pre eminent, you
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know, awful terrorist organizations.
Why are they not attacking the the country that suppose?
Now don't get me wrong, I'm gladthey're not attacking them, but
why are they not attacking the country that supposedly they
were built to defend against? Isn't that strange?
Anyway, let's listen to this clip from this Is that CIA guy
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John? Cracower or crack a cow or
something. I can't get this guy on the
podcast. He he always emails me and he's
like, sounds great, you know, looking forward to it.
And then I'll be like, well, give me some dates and then he
never gets back to me. Bastard.
I feel very, very confident thatJeffrey Epstein was a Mossad
access agent. For example, if you are a
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foreign intelligence service andyou want to know what Bill
Clinton says about an issue, you're not going to be able to
recruit Bill Clinton. He's not recruitable.
So you do the next best thing. You recruit someone who has
regular, easy access to them. And then if.
I just realized this is the wrong clip.
But you know what? That's OK.
Let's listen to the rest of thisbecause this is in regards to
Jeffrey Epstein, who's back in the news again.
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Dude, those Epstein files are long gone.
Nothing's ever going to come of that.
There's a little blackmail thrown in.
At the same time, it makes the quality of your information that
much better. Otherwise, why would Jeffrey
Epstein have audio and video in every single room of his house,
including the bathrooms? Do you think we'll ever see the
list? You know, the black books are
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out there. One of them was offered for sale
at Alexander Auctions, and it did not meet its reserve price
of $100,000 about six weeks ago.So the books are out there.
The names in the books are out there, but not all those names
necessarily. We're doing anything illegal or
inappropriate. I really do believe, maybe
naively, that eventually we willsee those lists.
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Not anytime soon. I do not think we're ever going
to see the real list. We might see a list or some
list, but I don't think we're ever going to see the real list.
I think the the truth of what took place in terms of the
nefarious, disgusting stuff, that stuff's been destroyed long
time ago. I don't think that's ever going
to that's ever going to come out, unfortunately.
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That sucks, man. These people definitely need to
be held accountable. I'll tell you who's probably
going to end up getting screwed in.
This is some like mid level dudes, like lower, lower level
people who probably went to Epstein Island.
I'm sure I've talked about this before, but probably went to
Epstein Island because they got invited.
They did. They probably did nothing
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illegal, nasty, nefarious anything.
They probably just had an incredible time.
But again, they now have dirt onthem for being part of all that.
And I think that that was, you know, that was probably part of
the, the, the, the way they did that.
You know, I can't imagine everybody attending was there to
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do underage child bad stuff. I think probably 95% of them
were there is just filler. It's like they are seat fillers.
That's a hilarious way to think about it.
Seat fillers in Epstein Island, They were just there to make the
other people feel comfortable and basically make them
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comfortable to do the nefarious things.
That probably is the truth. Actually isn't that funny.
That's probably the methodology that took place.
You'd have a bunch of random, let's say, celebrities or people
that have money or whatever and they're kind of just seat
fillers. They're they're there in Epstein
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Island to sort of keep the people that they actually want
to get blackmail information on.I don't know, maybe feeling
comfortable and at ease. That's funny, but I feel like
some of those people are going to are going to take the fall
for this. All right, let me see what else?
Let me see what else. Oh, you know, I want to play
this clip because I did an amazing interview with Royce
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White. I don't know if you guys know
who Royce White is, but he's actually pretty.
He's got some, he's got some. He's got some clout to him.
He's of unbelievably intelligentguy that was a number one draft
pick in the NBA and ended up never playing in the NBA
actually because he had major like anxiety issues.
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And after getting drafted, I think he got drafted like the
16th pick in the first round by the Houston Rockets.
He ended up never playing, but now he is running for Senate in
Minnesota. He actually ran last year or two
years ago against Amy Klobuchar and lost, but he's running again
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in 2026. Anyway, super super intelligent
guy. Had a unbelievable conversation
with him that lasted over 3 hours.
We actually broke it up over 2 days so I'll probably release it
in two segments like that. But but super savvy guy and he
used to appear here on the JasonWhitlock show quite a bit.
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And then they had a huge fallingout and ironically I was like,
so Team Royce on their falling out.
I pretty much stopped. God, why is my voice cracking
today? I pretty much stopped listening
to Jason Whitlock after that. But this was a clip basically.
I think this was maybe November of 2023.
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It was right when the bombing started happening in in Gaza and
Israel really went on the defensive.
But I thought this was such a, you know, such a poignant,
poignant to take by Royce. Give it a listen.
And by the way, a poignant take that is aged incredibly well.
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We're going to we're going to level Gaza.
We're going to turn it into a parking lot and our and our
hostages are still there. Or, or, or, or you're going to
tell me that the intelligence failed in one of the most
protected places in the whole world.
The intelligence failed. And now you have the
counterintelligence to be able to go precisely identify and
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locate these Hamas terrorists. You could tell that somebody who
watches Trevor Noah or somebody who watches Sean Hannity, for
example. You can't tell that to nobody
who watches Steve Bannon. You can't tell that to nobody
who's been watching Alex Jones for 25 years.
You mean to tell me the intelligence in the most
protected nation in the world was dark and all of a sudden
when we go back to Counter Strike, we have high level
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intelligence to precisely locatethe specific people we want to.
No, no, you're going to go cleanse Palestine and Gaza
because you think it's your right and many people are making
the case that it's their right. That is seriously one of the
best takes that that I've heard during this entire time.
Let me see if I can figure out when he said that.
All right. I think it was either December
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2023 or December 2024. Maybe it was.
Now that might be that might be when I downloaded the file, but
it definitely was in, I think itwas probably in 2024, early
2024. So that is absolutely a super
astute take. My favorite part in that was
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when he said you might, you might convince somebody that
listen to Trevor Noah or even Sean Hannity.
And I love that because there's two big voices, one on the left
being Trevor Noah and the Democrat side.
And then the other guy, Sean Hannity, he's just such a shill
and such a clown, but he's on the right on the Republican
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side. And I love that.
The way he said that was, yeah, the people that listen to the
far left guy and the far right guy, you might be able to pull
one over on those guys, but you're not going to pull one
over on the person that's listening to.
In his case, he said Steve Bannon and Alex Jones.
And that's funny. I like a lot of the things both
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of those guys say, but I also have my doubts on those guys.
Anyway, that's Roy's super good interview.
I'll try to get at least Part 1 of that released on Wednesday
and let me see what else. Oh, you know what?
I have got to play this clip. This is so good.
I forget what this gal's name is, but she hosts a she Co hosts
a podcast with that James Lee guy that I've talked about a few
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times. But this talks about how UVA not
UVA university of wherever the heck Charlie Kirk got shot.
I forgot where where he got shotat but it talks about how the
university basically ripped up and repaved that area a day
later or two days later. Which is still insane that the
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university did that. But listen to this.
Remember how we all thought it was weird that UVU was
renovating the courtyard where Charlie Kirk was assassinated
only a few days after the fact? Then how UVU official addressed
this, saying that it wasn't an attempt to cover up anything?
That the paving work was alreadyon the calendar as part of a
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planned campus renovation? Well, it turns out that UVU was
reaching out to construction companies on Saturday, September
13th, only three days after the assassination.
Text messages were obtained by Project Constitution via a
grammar request, which allows the public to request access to
government records, including state universities.
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Now, the names are redacted, butit shows that as early as
Saturday, September 13th, they were looking to pay for the
whole area and that the guys in the construction company were in
route to do that. And this one's weird.
Maybe that would be good. My guys are well trained in
keeping quiet. Why do they need to be quiet?
The exchange goes on to say thatthe university wants to get rid
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of all of the sod, the contractor asking if there's
anybody on site that they shouldcoordinate with, and someone
responding just get her done. Thank you.
Usually a renovation like this would have to go through
approvals and funding, not to mention it was a crime scene.
Plus, if this was previously planned, would you need to be
asking all of these questions including making design
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decisions? Do you have to wonder how did
they get this approval and who gave it to them and why?
That was seriously such a good recap and that is so SUS.
Like that is beyond SUS. I don't get it, man.
I do not get it. That is so Slim Shady.
It's insane. All right, that's it everybody
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episode. I'm going to try to get 4
episodes this week. I'm going to try.
I'm going to try. I got to get back into the
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OK, let's go. First it was hydroxychloroquine,
then it was Ivermectin. Both were proven to get rid of
COVID. So why did the government shut
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both of these down? What is your theory on what
happened here? What was this about?
It was an orchestrated attack and it was all meant to promote
the COVID shot. So you look at March 2021, only
10% of the population had gottenthese shots.
Government was nervous about that.
The FDA put something on their website telling people not to
take Ivermectin for COVID. April 1st, 2021, Methodist
(00:45):
Hospital becomes the first in the country to mandate the
shots. That's five months before Biden.
Same day, April 1st, 2021, Bidenlaunches COVID-19 community core
$10 billion propaganda program. Just boatloads of money going
out to influencers, church groups, sports groups to promote
the safe and effective narrativeof the vaccine.
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The medical board started comingafter doctors all over the
country who are promoting ivermectin.
Couple weeks later Biden mandates the shots and takes
away monoclonal antibodies. If you look at the timeline,
it's very clear. Hey, what's up, everybody?
Happy Tuesday. Hope you guys had a good
weekend. All right, That was Doctor Mary
Talley Bowden. I'm trying to get her on the
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podcast. Man, it is pretty crazy.
We are five years removed from all that stuff.
And the reason I play that is because I'm actually recording
today with Doctor Peter McCullough, who was one of the
main doctors that gosh, I think got put through the ringer.
But he also was one of the main doctors that has sounded the
(01:48):
alarm and, and was sounding the alarm from the get go when it
comes to COVID and the mask mandates and then leading to the
vaccine and all that. So this lady, I really liked
that clip because it talks aboutivermectin and and
hydroxychloroquine and all that stuff.
Which man, how crazy is it to think back at how bad that stuff
(02:09):
was vilified? But in terms of ivermectin in
particular, man, this, this drug, which is like a parasitic
drug, it's something I'm going to talk to Doctor McCullough
quite a bit about. But it is really like, oh, my
voice just cracked. It is just, it is really has
unbelievable benefits, but it's not touted because it's out of
(02:32):
patent and it costs like four cents a pill.
I mean, I'm kidding about that. But it's dirt cheap.
So there's no money in it. But Doctor McCullough here, let
me play a clip for you guys because I will definitely try to
get this interview out this week.
What we've learned is this childhood vaccine schedule is
not what we thought. And now critically looking at
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it, we have a situation that we just learned that the World
Council for Health, now international body is calling
for a complete moratorium on childhood vaccines.
First international organizationto call for that.
Why? Because the vaccines are piling
up one after another. They're being given in multiple
salvos. There are safety events now that
(03:17):
we learned in 1986, the US passed legislation that
indemnified the manufacturers ofvaccines.
In that legislation, it says thevaccines have unavoidable harm.
It says that it So what are the harms that we're seeing?
It's clear when the vaccines aregiven in mult multiple rounds.
It's probably not no single vaccine and no single additive,
but it's the sum total of vaccine is given at once.
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Let me jump in real quick. You know, obviously I don't have
kids of my own, but I guess I would ask this question to all
of you with kids. You know, how, how is it?
I know the process of getting kids vaccinated is almost forced
on you, at least here in the United States.
But like, I'm so curious, gosh, I hope none of you have
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experienced issues with your kids due to the vaccination
process, but I'm curious if anybody has.
I'm trying to actually see if I can find some people that that
are willing to speak on that a little bit, even if in
anonymity. Like even if you wanted to tell
me about it. And obviously I'll never use
your name or anything, but you know what I find crazy about
(04:22):
that entire situation is just the the oh God, well, how do I
want to describe this? Like, I don't understand why
it's just not OK to ask questions.
You know, it's another, it's another scenario of like, what
is the big deal about just like asking questions and wanting to
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understand. Obviously that applied during
COVID and and it's it's happening again.
It's happening now with the Republican Party like like the
Charlie Kirk stuff. I would throw that in there.
You know, people are getting yelled at for asking questions
and poking holes in that official narrative.
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That is wild, man. That is wild.
Everything. Honestly, if you follow the
money and follow the greed, it pretty much explains, you know,
behavior that that in my opinion, doesn't fall under the
rational common sense category. And so like, even with childhood
vaccines, and Dr. McCullough talks a lot about, you know, all
(05:29):
kinds of vaccines, adults vaccines as well.
And I'm going to get into all that with him.
But again, my, I guess my, my, my, my confusion, not confusion,
but I just never understand why some people get so triggered if
you just are asking questions. And I'm not even talking people
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in the medical community. I'm talking like normal people.
Like, I've got friends that overthe years, especially over the
past few years, when I've talkedabout not even the COVID
vaccine, when I've talked about other vaccines, like vaccines
for their children, they just goberserk.
And I'm like, what is your deal?Are you on some kind of payroll?
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Like, that doesn't make any sense.
Anyway, let's listen to the restof this little spiel from Doctor
McCullough. We're seeing a strong signal
towards neuropsychiatric disorders so attention deficit
disorder, Asperger's, autism, seizures, allergic diseases,
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asthma, atopic dermatitis, need for termination, sudden infant
death syndrome and then the converse.
Now this is the converse which is papers by Mawson, Hooker,
Miller, Thomas and an older Amish study.
All 5 studies show if children go natural, no vaccines
whatsoever, they have the best outcomes.
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Freedom from. It got cut off there.
Man, That is pretty crazy. That is seriously pretty crazy.
And obviously, the data shows a direct correlation between the
rise of autism and the rise of vaccines.
Like, how is this that controversial?
I just don't get it. Anyway, I will definitely get
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that episode out. And, you know, I'm going to
actually ask him some good stuff, some good stuff.
Talk about make America healthy again, Robert F Kennedy, you
know, is that is that amounting to anything?
I'm going to get into the DoctorFauci stuff.
I think it'll be a good one. All right, really quick, man.
I don't know what is going on with America and the really the
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Republican Party. It is.
It is fracturing like in a big way.
And over the weekend, President Trump like went ballistic
against Marjorie Taylor Green. And we've talked about Marjorie
Taylor Green quite a bit this year.
And, you know, at first I thought, gosh, maybe she's being
(08:06):
she's being empowered to be the way she is.
But I don't think that necessarily is the case.
Well, maybe it is, maybe it is, who knows.
But I will say Trump finally came out and really like went at
her and talked about like primarying her and I think he
called her a lunatic and basically group tour with Thomas
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Massie and Rand Paul, both guys that I like.
And it is backfiring in his face.
It really is. He is really like losing
support. But I don't know if he cares.
I really don't. I don't think he cares.
I think that for whatever reason.
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And again, what what episode wasit?
I forget who I talked about thiswith.
Maybe it was Jeb Ball we talked about.
Yeah, I think it was Jeb where Isaid 2016 Trump and 2020 Trump
and 2020 four Trump pre pre inauguration are not the same
human being as 2025 post inauguration Trump.
(09:10):
So the question becomes did something change?
Is he under quote UN quote duress or I don't know.
Was this the greatest psyop in history?
Who the heck knows. But I will tell you MAGA is.
I think Maga's dead. I don't even think MAGA really
exists anymore because all of the people that were really MAGA
(09:32):
are like burning their they're burning their red hats and
posting it on social media. Have you guys seen this?
This is pretty crazy. People are like they're either
taking their hat off and throwing it in the garbage their
their red MAGA hat or they're literally burning them, which is
crazy. So anyway, we shall see what
(09:52):
happens. They are now embracing America
first. That is kind of the movement.
And you really have to give thatcredit to that movement to Nick
Fuentes. It's kind of, it's the name of
his show. It's really the name of his his
brand to a big extent. So anyway, it is going to be
interesting to see what happens.You know, Trump definitely is
(10:13):
taking tremendous heat. But again, I just don't think he
cares. I don't think he cares.
And I think that for whatever reason, obviously he knows what
is happening and he's just not addressing it.
And he's doubling and tripling and quadrupling down.
All right, you know what? I think I've now embraced the
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motto of jumping around in theseepisodes.
Let's jump back into health realquick because I did want to play
this clip again about ivermectin.
And this is ivermectin in cream form.
And this is a good doctor named Doctor William Mackus.
This guy's awesome. He's really again, he was not
another one of the truth tellersduring the COVID stuff.
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Acting paste Ivermectin cream isactually FDA approved for the
treatment of rosacea. A lot of people don't know that,
but Ivermectin cream is actuallyFDA approved.
Your dermatologist can prescribeit.
So again, he's talking about ivermectin paste or ivermectin
cream. And what I find fascinating is
that it is FDA approved for dermatology stuff like for skin
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related issues. So if any of you are suffering
from it, give this a listen. Now the of course the doctors
hesitate to prescribe it, but it's a 1% ivormectin cream.
You could treat rosacea. The ivormectin horse paste is
actually 1.87%, so it's stronger.
It's almost twice as strong. You can literally use it for any
inflammatory or autoimmune skin condition.
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It'll treat cystic acne, which is the worst possible acne you
can have, and it'll clear it completely.
That's amazing. That is, I actually had a cystic
acne situation years ago and that's that is the worst acne
possible. I had like one giant.
It's like a boil man. That thing was gnarly.
That thing was super gnarly. I wish I had known about
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ivermectin prior to this. But again, if any of you are
suffering from any skin related issues, you know, please pay
attention to this. Reach out to me to talk about
ivermectin for sure, but then doyour own research.
I don't even want to say talk toyour doctor because chances are
your doctor's going to say no, no, that stuff is crazy.
That's conspiracy theorist stuff.
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And you know what? It's not the reason they say
that is because a, they don't spend the time to do the
research. And secondly, the big pharma
companies are putting so much money to not allow something
like ivermectin, which is incredibly inexpensive to
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manufacture and prescribe and use.
They don't want that. It's not financially beneficial.
It'll clear eczema, like I said,in many cases it will clear
psoriasis. But most impressive of all, it
will clear skin cancers. And I now have tons of
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testimonials from patients who had either basal cell carcinoma,
squamous cell carcinoma, Melanoma.
They started applying the horse paste twice a day.
Within a couple of weeks you seethe the lesion, the skin lesion
start changing. You can see it just after a
couple of weeks of application, the lesion starts changing, it
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starts getting smaller. And after a month or two, it may
fall off completely and it's gone.
This is seriously insane. This is insane that now again,
you know, for those of you that might be a naysayer in this, my,
my retort would be why what? Why do you not believe in this
doctor? You know, this guy's a medical
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doctor like every other medical doctor that might be saying
something you believe in. You know, why would you not take
what he says into account? It's really pretty crazy, man.
We have. We have, we've like lived in
this world where where asking questions is just so frowned
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upon. And I just don't get it.
I really don't get it. And and for me, anything that
has a financial benefit, let alone an unbelievable financial
benefit for one side of of the equation, to me, that always
should be something we question.All right, let's listen to the
rest of this. You can treat any skin cancer
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with ivermectin paste, the horsepaste, the 8-9 dollar horse
paste that you know you get at whatever veterinary supply.
That's crazy. You know what?
I'm going to try something. I actually have dry hands.
I've always kind of had dry hands my whole life.
They're not too bad right now, but I kind of do have on the
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dryer side of hands. I'm going to get some ivermectin
horse paste. I don't know where the heck I'm
going to get that from. Maybe I'll go to a vet, a vet
store, see if I can get some andI'm going to.
I'm going to put put his theory to test.
Let's see what happens. All right, Anyway, my point is
anybody, by the way, anybody outthere that's suffering with long
COVID, I have one friend. I'm not going to name her name.
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I know she's not listening, but I'm not going to name her name
because I think friends of hers listen.
And they'll probably tell her that I named her name and then
they'll tell her and then she'llcall me up and yell at me even
though I didn't name her name. But that's how she is.
So she has long COVID. And this girl, I think I've
talked about her before, maybe Ihave.
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Anyway, she's such a knuckleheadbecause she posts all these like
woe is me stuff on Facebook and all that, and I'm just over it.
I'm over it because I have tried10 different times to tell her
hey you've tried everything elsejust try ivermectin see what
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happens. There's a lot of clinical data
showing that it cures people's long COVID, sometimes as soon as
24 to 48 hours. And she just refuses to even
try. So, so when she posts her what
was me images of how her life has changed.
I don't even, I mean, I do feel bad still, but not really
because, you know, she tries like, you know, acupuncture
(16:22):
using porcupine needles. I'm making that up.
But she tries all these crazy cockamamie stuff and then she
won't try this because of, you know, whatever.
I, I don't know if it's her politics, if it's her cognitive
dissonance, but anyway, it's hard for me to like empathize
(16:43):
with her, although that's so bad.
I should empathize anyway. But anyway, I might try one more
time to tell her to give ivermectin a shot and we'll see.
We'll see. Maybe we'll see after what the
interview with Doctor McCullough, what that Nets out.
Oh, by the way, I don't know if you got a chance to listen to
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Thursday. I believe it's Thursday.
Yeah, my bad. For only two episodes last week,
Thursday's episode with Kawa. Man, I thought that was a such
an interesting episode. And I'm not going to ruin it for
those that haven't listened to it yet, but I highly recommend
you go back. I know I say that every
interview, but I really do. You know, here's a guy that
that, you know, has a really interesting story.
(17:28):
First of all, he's a total badass like Green Beret, you
know, Army Special forces went to Iraq and Afghanistan and he
is Afghani. So like imagine being from that
country and then being being in that country on behalf of the
United States during all that time post 911 and then basically
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having to kind of kill your killyour countrymen.
That's a little bit that's a little bit tough to swallow,
man. I know there's definitely some
some long term PTSD with that that he's dealing with.
We didn't really get into that in the episode, but it was a
really good episode. We talked about so many
different things and I'll tell you one of the things we talked
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about and it just speaks to, youknow, my my personal theory
about the concept of the boogeyman and the big bad wolf.
And, you know, there always has to be, you know, that enemy and
that something to fight in orderfor there to be fear and in
order for that military industrial complex to flourish.
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And you know, I mean, I think Hamas is, is falls into that
category. I really do.
The more and more I think about this and you know, I know I've
brought on several Palestinian folks and nobody really agrees
with me that much, although I dohave a couple that I might bring
on. They actually agree with me.
Maybe I'll bring them on literally just because they
agree with me. But anyway, I think they do fall
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into that category and I think they fall into the big bad wolf,
the boogeyman. And the other two that that that
always seemed weird to me was AlQaeda and this ISIS.
And the reason they're weird is because they supposedly their
quote UN quote charter. I find that hilarious that these
like terrorist organizations have like a mission statement
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and a charter that's like super goofy.
But you know, supposedly they hate Israel and they hate the
Jewish people and all that, but they literally never attack
Israel. Like that doesn't make any
sense. It just doesn't make any sense.
Al Qaeda and ISIS, you know, thetwo probably pre eminent, you
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know, awful terrorist organizations.
Why are they not attacking the the country that suppose?
Now don't get me wrong, I'm gladthey're not attacking them, but
why are they not attacking the country that supposedly they
were built to defend against? Isn't that strange?
Anyway, let's listen to this clip from this Is that CIA guy
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John? Cracower or crack a cow or
something. I can't get this guy on the
podcast. He he always emails me and he's
like, sounds great, you know, looking forward to it.
And then I'll be like, well, give me some dates and then he
never gets back to me. Bastard.
I feel very, very confident thatJeffrey Epstein was a Mossad
access agent. For example, if you are a
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foreign intelligence service andyou want to know what Bill
Clinton says about an issue, you're not going to be able to
recruit Bill Clinton. He's not recruitable.
So you do the next best thing. You recruit someone who has
regular, easy access to them. And then if.
I just realized this is the wrong clip.
But you know what? That's OK.
Let's listen to the rest of thisbecause this is in regards to
Jeffrey Epstein, who's back in the news again.
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Dude, those Epstein files are long gone.
Nothing's ever going to come of that.
There's a little blackmail thrown in.
At the same time, it makes the quality of your information that
much better. Otherwise, why would Jeffrey
Epstein have audio and video in every single room of his house,
including the bathrooms? Do you think we'll ever see the
list? You know, the black books are
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out there. One of them was offered for sale
at Alexander Auctions, and it did not meet its reserve price
of $100,000 about six weeks ago.So the books are out there.
The names in the books are out there, but not all those names
necessarily. We're doing anything illegal or
inappropriate. I really do believe, maybe
naively, that eventually we willsee those lists.
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Not anytime soon. I do not think we're ever going
to see the real list. We might see a list or some
list, but I don't think we're ever going to see the real list.
I think the the truth of what took place in terms of the
nefarious, disgusting stuff, that stuff's been destroyed long
time ago. I don't think that's ever going
to that's ever going to come out, unfortunately.
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That sucks, man. These people definitely need to
be held accountable. I'll tell you who's probably
going to end up getting screwed in.
This is some like mid level dudes, like lower, lower level
people who probably went to Epstein Island.
I'm sure I've talked about this before, but probably went to
Epstein Island because they got invited.
They did. They probably did nothing
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illegal, nasty, nefarious anything.
They probably just had an incredible time.
But again, they now have dirt onthem for being part of all that.
And I think that that was, you know, that was probably part of
the, the, the, the way they did that.
You know, I can't imagine everybody attending was there to
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do underage child bad stuff. I think probably 95% of them
were there is just filler. It's like they are seat fillers.
That's a hilarious way to think about it.
Seat fillers in Epstein Island, They were just there to make the
other people feel comfortable and basically make them
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comfortable to do the nefarious things.
That probably is the truth. Actually isn't that funny.
That's probably the methodology that took place.
You'd have a bunch of random, let's say, celebrities or people
that have money or whatever and they're kind of just seat
fillers. They're they're there in Epstein
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Island to sort of keep the people that they actually want
to get blackmail information on.I don't know, maybe feeling
comfortable and at ease. That's funny, but I feel like
some of those people are going to are going to take the fall
for this. All right, let me see what else?
Let me see what else. Oh, you know, I want to play
this clip because I did an amazing interview with Royce
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White. I don't know if you guys know
who Royce White is, but he's actually pretty.
He's got some, he's got some. He's got some clout to him.
He's of unbelievably intelligentguy that was a number one draft
pick in the NBA and ended up never playing in the NBA
actually because he had major like anxiety issues.
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And after getting drafted, I think he got drafted like the
16th pick in the first round by the Houston Rockets.
He ended up never playing, but now he is running for Senate in
Minnesota. He actually ran last year or two
years ago against Amy Klobuchar and lost, but he's running again
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in 2026. Anyway, super super intelligent
guy. Had a unbelievable conversation
with him that lasted over 3 hours.
We actually broke it up over 2 days so I'll probably release it
in two segments like that. But but super savvy guy and he
used to appear here on the JasonWhitlock show quite a bit.
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And then they had a huge fallingout and ironically I was like,
so Team Royce on their falling out.
I pretty much stopped. God, why is my voice cracking
today? I pretty much stopped listening
to Jason Whitlock after that. But this was a clip basically.
I think this was maybe November of 2023.
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It was right when the bombing started happening in in Gaza and
Israel really went on the defensive.
But I thought this was such a, you know, such a poignant,
poignant to take by Royce. Give it a listen.
And by the way, a poignant take that is aged incredibly well.
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We're going to we're going to level Gaza.
We're going to turn it into a parking lot and our and our
hostages are still there. Or, or, or, or you're going to
tell me that the intelligence failed in one of the most
protected places in the whole world.
The intelligence failed. And now you have the
counterintelligence to be able to go precisely identify and
(25:51):
locate these Hamas terrorists. You could tell that somebody who
watches Trevor Noah or somebody who watches Sean Hannity, for
example. You can't tell that to nobody
who watches Steve Bannon. You can't tell that to nobody
who's been watching Alex Jones for 25 years.
You mean to tell me the intelligence in the most
protected nation in the world was dark and all of a sudden
when we go back to Counter Strike, we have high level
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intelligence to precisely locatethe specific people we want to.
No, no, you're going to go cleanse Palestine and Gaza
because you think it's your right and many people are making
the case that it's their right. That is seriously one of the
best takes that that I've heard during this entire time.
Let me see if I can figure out when he said that.
All right. I think it was either December
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2023 or December 2024. Maybe it was.
Now that might be that might be when I downloaded the file, but
it definitely was in, I think itwas probably in 2024, early
2024. So that is absolutely a super
astute take. My favorite part in that was
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when he said you might, you might convince somebody that
listen to Trevor Noah or even Sean Hannity.
And I love that because there's two big voices, one on the left
being Trevor Noah and the Democrat side.
And then the other guy, Sean Hannity, he's just such a shill
and such a clown, but he's on the right on the Republican
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side. And I love that.
The way he said that was, yeah, the people that listen to the
far left guy and the far right guy, you might be able to pull
one over on those guys, but you're not going to pull one
over on the person that's listening to.
In his case, he said Steve Bannon and Alex Jones.
And that's funny. I like a lot of the things both
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of those guys say, but I also have my doubts on those guys.
Anyway, that's Roy's super good interview.
I'll try to get at least Part 1 of that released on Wednesday
and let me see what else. Oh, you know what?
I have got to play this clip. This is so good.
I forget what this gal's name is, but she hosts a she Co hosts
a podcast with that James Lee guy that I've talked about a few
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times. But this talks about how UVA not
UVA university of wherever the heck Charlie Kirk got shot.
I forgot where where he got shotat but it talks about how the
university basically ripped up and repaved that area a day
later or two days later. Which is still insane that the
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university did that. But listen to this.
Remember how we all thought it was weird that UVU was
renovating the courtyard where Charlie Kirk was assassinated
only a few days after the fact? Then how UVU official addressed
this, saying that it wasn't an attempt to cover up anything?
That the paving work was alreadyon the calendar as part of a
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planned campus renovation? Well, it turns out that UVU was
reaching out to construction companies on Saturday, September
13th, only three days after the assassination.
Text messages were obtained by Project Constitution via a
grammar request, which allows the public to request access to
government records, including state universities.
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Now, the names are redacted, butit shows that as early as
Saturday, September 13th, they were looking to pay for the
whole area and that the guys in the construction company were in
route to do that. And this one's weird.
Maybe that would be good. My guys are well trained in
keeping quiet. Why do they need to be quiet?
The exchange goes on to say thatthe university wants to get rid
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of all of the sod, the contractor asking if there's
anybody on site that they shouldcoordinate with, and someone
responding just get her done. Thank you.
Usually a renovation like this would have to go through
approvals and funding, not to mention it was a crime scene.
Plus, if this was previously planned, would you need to be
asking all of these questions including making design
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decisions? Do you have to wonder how did
they get this approval and who gave it to them and why?
That was seriously such a good recap and that is so SUS.
Like that is beyond SUS. I don't get it, man.
I do not get it. That is so Slim Shady.
It's insane. All right, that's it everybody
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30 minutes Wednesday. I'll try to do the Royce
episode. I'm going to try to get 4
episodes this week. I'm going to try.
I'm going to try. I got to get back into the
groove. All right, that's it.
Call spade a spade. Call your parents.
That was a. Great way to.
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