EP#392 | GUEST | Dr. Peter McCullough: The Truth About mRNA, Vaccines & Long-Term Effects - Deep Shallow Dive

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The following podcast is a deep,shallow dive production and
you're gonna love it. OK, let's go.
All right, Doctor McCullough, I,I am going to try and not make

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the same ice, same mistake I made with a guy named Scott
Horton. Do you know who Scott is, by the
way? Yeah, I know the name.
Yeah, he's a big time geopolitical analyst and I had
him on and I was so excited and I had so many questions to ask
him. I didn't, I, I think, I think I
didn't ask him properly. But this time I've got a a

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thorough preparation and I want to let everybody know it is
honestly, it is such an honor today to have Doctor Peter
McCullough here. He is one of the people that
quite frankly, helped me get through the COVID situation.
He really did. And he was somebody that I look
to for not only medical advice, but common sense.

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So all right, welcome to the deep shallow dive and let's jump
right into it. Let me ask you this to lay the
foundation. How was it supposed to work?
Like the mRNA vaccine? What was that supposed to do in
terms of the spike protein? You know, I think it's doing

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what it was supposed to do. What messenger RNA is, is it's a
short strand of genetic code that codes for a protein, and
the human body gets tricked intoreading the code in producing
the protein. So the technology's been around
since the 1980's. the US government and other governments

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have invested 10s of billions ofdollars in this.
So this is kind of a government darling biotech project.
And it failed in terms of tryingto replace deficient proteins in
certain syndromes. It just didn't last very long.
And then the idea is, well, it could be modified and Pfizer and

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Moderna both strategically decided to begin to alter it and
make the messenger RNA purely synthetic.
And so there are base pairs and one of the nucleotides called
uracil, they replaced with pseudouridine.
It's it's a synthetic nucleosideanalog and they tried replacing,

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you know, quarter of them and then half of them and it was
lasting longer and longer. And then towards the very end of
development for the COVID vaccines, they said, listen,
let's go for it. Let's make it indestructible and
replace all of the uracils with pseudo uridine.
So what came out and what peopletook in their arms is completely

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synthetic messenger RNA with no ability to get rid of it.
And and was that supposed to stay localized?
Was it supposed to stay in the arm region or was it supposed to
spread into the body? Because I I feel like it
absolutely spread into the body.Yeah, what was said on the CDC
website is that it stays in the arm, but it was loaded into

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lipid nanoparticles which were known to go everywhere in the
body. And then Pfizer did a bio
distribution study and it was, it came out actually re
reproduced into an Australian paper by Peter Perry was the
first author. And in fact, it went everywhere.
It went into the heart, the brain, reproductive organs, all

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the vital organs in the body. And we've never had a vaccine
that injection like this where it went everywhere in the body
literally within a few hours. Yeah, So, OK, Gosh, that's
crazy. You know, I, I've been trying to
understand, did the vaccine weaken people's immunity and

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then did people have issues because of that or I, I listened
to Eric Weinstein. I think it was Eric and not
Brett. He said something interesting
and I wanted to get your opinionon that.
He said it's, it's not necessarily that the vaccine
weakened the immunity. The vaccine caused the human

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body to almost attack the spike protein that the vaccine
created. So it was as if the human body's
own immune system kind of turnedon itself to attack these spike
proteins that kind of got created because of the vaccine,
exactly what you just said, all over the body.

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So if if a spike protein from the vaccine attached around the
heart, the myocarditis that happened wasn't because of the
vaccine, it was the body's immune system reaction to that
spike protein that got created. What What are your thoughts on
that? You know, that's a very good
analysis. You know, I didn't get a chance

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to introduce myself. I'm Doctor Peter McCullough.
I'm in practice as an internist cardiologist, research
epidemiologist. And as we sit here today, I'm
the most published Dr. in the world on the Covic 19 pandemic
and the clinical aspects of it, the vaccine and vaccine safety.
So I've studied this as much as or more than anybody in the
game. So what we know is that having

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the body take foreign messenger RN as never happened before.
Never. This is brand new.
Anybody took Pfizer, Moderna, This is a brand new human
experiment. It thermodynamically is
unstable. The body shouldn't have to
produce a foreign protein, but it doesn't do that normally.
And secondly, that foreign protein, the spike protein

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itself is directly damaging. And it was designed in the Wuhan
Institute of Virology that that was the part of the virus that
was so lethal, the spike protein, that's the spine on the
surface of the virus. So no, it's directly damaging.
It's not a benign. Protein.
And. I believe it.
I believe it and and you know, alot of the, you know, again, as

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and by the way, I apologize, I should have let you introduce
yourself. I figure everyone knows who you
are by now, but maybe I'll, I'llcut that and I'll put that in
the beginning. You know, what has just
terrified me is the, you know, the excess mortality, the
increase in, you know, all of that.
Like, like help us understand from, from, you know, the data

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better than anybody. What have we seen since since
2021? Well, we always consider safety
before efficacy, so let's just take safety.
So because the vaccines we have in the United States, 81% of
Americans took one or more shots, 70% took two shots.

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Ray, I'm in the 19%. I took no shots.
Yeah, yeah. I'm with you there.
I'm with you, OK? So, so you and I can give an
unbiased opinion. I think people who take the
shots, they can't, they can't beunbiased Now, you know, they,
they hope the vaccine is not doing damage to their body.

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They they wish, but they can't be psychologically and, you
know, mentally neutral on this. The people who took the vaccine
get very nervous when we start to talk like this.
They really do. Most people who took the shots
do not want to talk like this. Like today I testified in the
South Carolina Senate by Zoom. And I can tell people who are

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getting very uncomfortable and Ijust don't listen.
I'm a doctor. I looked at this.
I did not think they were safe. I didn't want foreign genetic
code in my body coding for a protein from a Chinese bio
security lab. I did not want that in my body.
It doesn't sound good. It's not good.
And people started to turn really pale.
Yeah. You know, so the vaccine,

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because the spike protein is directly damaging to the heart.
It causes myocarditis. Now.
Now, there is the body's own inflammatory attack, and sure,
that adds on. But the spike protein is not
benign. It's found in the brain.
It weakens the blood vessels in the brain, causes stroke and
hemorrhage. And every time a study's done
where there's a biopsy and they look for the spike protein, they

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find it. Every time they look for Pfizer
in Moderna messenger RNA, they find it.
It's in the human heart and recently in a patient of mine
who suffered heart damage and who had blood clots from the
vaccine, he took three Pfizers. We used a research lab in
Germany. We found circulating Pfizer

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vaccine in his bloodstream and spike protein 3.2 years after
the shots. Wow, can.
You imagine having that in your bloodstream, No wonder people
are dropping dead, having cardiac arrest, having new blood
clots, strokes, and the list goes on and on.
Autoimmune problems, neurologic damage, paralysis and, and, and

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actually new cancers. It looks like it's linked to
cancers. You're having a foreign protein
and foreign genetic code in yourbloodstream for years after the
shots. Yeah.
Was was there a compounding effect based on how many
boosters people got? Like like the more the more you
got the 1st 2:00 and then plus boosters, does that just
naturally mean the chances of you having issues are greater?

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By two mechanisms, yes. The the 1st is just you're
taking more, you're taking more very bad stuff into your body,
you're going to have more damage.
But also each vial was not the same.
Some people got hardly any messenger RNA and other people
got super loaded. So there's a website you can go
to how bad is my batch.com and you can figure it out.

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But think about it, if you took two shots and they were from a
low risk batch, you're probably good.
Probably not. But if you kept taking him, kept
taking him, sooner or later the risk is going to be there.
So it, you know, fortunately 75%of people took the shots from
low risk batches. It looks like nothing's happened
to them. They're fine.

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But we got 25% of people who took the shots and that's a big
subset of the population. We're worried about them.
Now you know what, that's a great point because if you think
about it, I think one of the arguments that people make when
they say, oh, you know, billionsof people, potentially billions,
I mean, definitely hundreds of millions took it.
Why is everybody not having problems?

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It's exactly like what you said.Not all batches were the same.
You know, I think the protocol was to potentially shake them.
They needed to be at a certain room temperature.
And now you're relying on the, you know, the, the, the first
year pharmacist at a DBS or a Walgreens or, you know, an
independent pharmacy to have properly taken care of that

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vial. So I think you make a great
point. The what about the half life?
Like does this thing have a halflife and a quarter life?
Like can people get this out of their system eventually?
We we simply don't know. Now we can measure the
antibodies against the spike protein, which is an indirect
proxy of how much spike proteinsbeen loaded in the body.

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Many papers published on this. The correlation between the
antibody to the spike protein and the real spike protein in
the blood is about point 8.9. So it's pretty solid.
What we know there is great people like you and me, and we
didn't take the shots. Hopefully we're below 1000 on
this spike test, but you take the shots and you're over 5000.
That's when we start seeing in the bloodstream and over, you

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know, 1015 thousand. I just finished with the lady on
the phone. She's at about 8000 and it
attacked her eyes, damaged her nerves.
She was paralyzed for a while. It's been absolutely horrible,
you know, at about 8025 thousand.
Watch out, these people. Spontaneous blood kits, cardiac
arrest, so you can get your blood checked, right?

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You should do this. Go to LabCorp.
Yeah, go on the Yeah, go on their website, LabCorp Labs on
demand, click Infectious diseases, COVID antibody test.
Pay $69 and go in and get your test.
You don't even need a doctor's order for this.
OK, that's great. That's great.
I'll put those links in in in the description.
You know, that's the thing. I think people don't realize

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that, you know, this vaccine came out of what seems like
nowhere. Now you're saying the mRNA has
been been researched since the 80s and all that.
But but how much sense does it make that all of the sudden when
COVID happens, you know, you hadfour major pharmaceutical
companies that that according tothe way they positioned it got

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to market within, you know, within 9 or 10 months.
That doesn't make sense because vaccines in general, isn't there
clinical trials they need to go through to?
Isn't it a 7 to 12 year period normally?
What is certainly several years and what we know is, you know,
the government has had his hand in this vaccine development.
It wasn't just a private industry.

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So DARPA, a research unit of themilitary, in 2012 launched a
program. It's still on their website is
called the ADEPT P3 program. They claimed with this program
in 2012 that they would end pandemics in 60 days using
messenger RNA vaccines. That's in 2012.

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So you know when people are said, oh, this just came out of
nowhere. No, they were working on this
for a long time. Moderna had a patent on the
COVID-19 vaccine in 2016, So there was great anticipation
that this virus was going to come out of the lab.
We were going to have a vaccine.Everyone was getting ready.

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That's the reason why when Trumpannounced a national emergency
in 2020, Stefan Benzel from Moderna came out like, a few
days later and said, we have a vaccine ready.
Yeah, that's crazy. I mean, because they already
filed the patent. They just had to check the
current code of the Wuhan strainsince it came out of the lab and

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now all the US intelligence agencies agreed it came out of
the Wuhan lab. It's it's a man made virus.
It's part human virus, part bat virus.
It was designed to invade the human body, to kill the human
body, cause blood clots. And now there are thousands of
reports of people dying after the vaccine.

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I mean, it's just the worst possible thing.
You know, it does suppress immunity.
To get back to your point, I think both COVID infection and
the vaccine suppress immunity because part of the spike
protein has identical sequence to a glycoprotein that we see
with HIV. And it's one of the reasons why

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with the infection we saw depressed white blood cell
counts. I said what's going on?
It's usually it's a viral infection.
The White County should be up. In fact, it was depressed.
It looked like HIV on the on thewhite blood cell profile.
Then this glycoprotein sequence was discovered.
The interesting thing is there was a vaccine that was trialled

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in Australia and it exposed thatpart of the spike protein to the
immune system and it turned everybody in the vaccine trial
HIV positive. Oh my goodness.
Wow. So, so and and immediately the
company shut it down. But that shows you the spike
protein does have a molecule to HIV.

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It is immunosuppressive and thenwhen you take the vaccine, I
think it really knocks down the immune system.
And in Australia in their inquiry, they have a, they have
a formal inquiry into COVID-19. There's a term, it's been
accepted, it's called VAIDS, Vaccine Associated
Immunodeficiency syndrome. And we know this because people

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who take the shots, they have higher rates of reactivation of
Epstein Barr virus, higher ratesof shingles.
All of this has been reported. And by the way, there's some
public figures who've had this problem.
So for instance Dianne Feinsteinhad Vaids and she had
reactivation of varicella zosterand it invaded her brain and

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killed her. Yeah, I remember that.
I remember that and, and and you're saying that potentially
or plausibly was vaccine inducedbecause of the Covic?
Vaccine. Yeah, for sure.
She had a clear cut vaccine syndrome.
Another person who has it, you know, he's younger.
He's fighting it off, but it's Justin Bieber.
Oh, that's. Right.
It's called Ramsey Hunt syndrome.

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And so his immune system's down.The varicella zoster virus takes
off. It's it, it, it, it, it, it, it
is basically, you know, he hasn't, he hasn't been on stage
in two years. Wow.
That's so, that's right. They showed him at the World
Series and he he looked like he was kind of normal.
But it really knocks you down. And you know, somebody who I met
before he took his shots was Jamie Foxx.

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And I told Jamie they're not safe.
And he took the shots. And he has a cardiac arrest and
a stroke. He has a feeding tube in a
tracheostomy tube. He's really sick.
He's in the hospital for a long time.
I mean, these public figures keep taking the damage.
Or how about Deion Sanders? So, you know, he has turf toe
and he played for the Cowboys. He he has kind of some altered

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anatomy of the foot. He takes the shots, he brags
about taking the shots, he gets blood clots down the legs due to
the shots, won't admit that it'sthe shots, makes the whole docu
series on it, nearly has his legamputated, multiple toes
amputated, recovers from that. And then what happens?
He develops a turbo cancer and has to have his whole bladder
removed. And there aren't published

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papers about both the infection and the vaccine turning on
bladder cancer, which is on the rise.
You never see. I've never had a man in his 50s
have to get his bladder removed and and now we have a paper that
McCullough Foundation is published with Neoscience, Neo 7
Bioscience, John Kentasaro. We have a woman who's 31.

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She's had a turbo cancer of her bladder.
She had it removed and guess what?
We found the vaccine right in the cancer.
That's incredible. That's incredible.
So it so it is it is it finally accepted in the medical
community now that the vaccine caused the turbo cancers, caused
the sudden death, so many of these blood clots like like, are

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you, do you feel vindicated now or are you still fighting the
fight even among your peers? Well, I'm clearly vindicated in
the public. So, you know, I've been
publishing on this. We're going on six years now.
This is a long period of time. Thousands of peer reviewed
publications are out there. Vaccines are not safe.

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We've had U.S. Senate, U.S.
House testimony, European Parliament, you know, media
scripts published saying they'renot safe.
So it's clear they're not safe. And the vaccines have caused
large numbers of deaths. A recent Mass Musin poll was
done and it found 56% of Americans, 56% of valid sample
think the vaccines have caused large numbers of deaths.

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But you and we're. Talking about all vaccines now,
right? Like or we're talking about
COVID shots. OK, OK.
OK, COVID shots, right? So, so the public knows the
COVID vaccines are causing largenumbers of deaths.
We haven't had a single major Medical Center come out and
express any concerns. Mayo Clinic's been quiet

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harvest, but they're not coming out and saying the shots are
good. Yeah.
They're just quiet. Yeah, they're previously quiet.
And, you know, this has gone, you know, on and on and on.
There are dozens of lawmakers who say, get these shots off the
market, and yet they're still onevery worldwide market.

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There's not been any investigation to inspect the
vaccines, to review the data. No, no recognition to these poor
people have had blood clots and they've lost their lives.
Today I had a patient, wonderfullady who did not take the shots,
but you know, she lost her younger brother to the shots.
He literally took the second shot and he died within 24

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hours. I mean, it's just clear.
He's just. I mean, how do you not attribute
that to that? You know, honestly, I
personally, I, I've lost three very good friends who all were,
you know, in their early 50s, great shape, a runner, a, a
football player, very athletic. And you know, one of my good

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friends was on a treadmill, got off of the treadmill and just
dropped dead. Like that doesn't make sense.
That's never been, that's never happened before.
And the incidents of that, you know, you were right.
You nailed it at the beginning. People don't want to hear it and
they don't want to talk about it, especially the ones that
have taken it, because in their mind, they'd rather not hear

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anything potentially negative. It's crazy.
So you feel more comfortable being totally out in the open
about this stuff now because youwent through a hard time during
during those four years of Biden?
But, you know, I've always been out in the open.
Yeah, I have one of the top social media accounts.
If you if you search me on Google, I think I'm the most,

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you know, the doctor with the most hits on Google.
You know, I still one of the highest viewed person on Joe
Rogan podcast. And you know, I've been on
Daystar five times. Daystar is the largest Christian
Broadcasting Network. And so with each show with the
reruns, the estimate is that's viewed by 1.8 billion people.

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Billion. Wow, because they're in 140
countries. So you know, I've had a very big
role to play. No one's taking these shots
anymore. You know, that, that that's not
thanks to the US government. That's thanks to independent
media in my efforts, in the efforts of a pretty small group,
the public knows now they're nottaking these shots In Texas, You

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know, we've been so influential that the a mandate to take the
COVID shot is thought to be so dangerous because you can die
the COVID shot. So the mandate itself is, is
outlawed. You can't force somebody to take
a Copa shot in Texas because theshots are so dangerous.
The the logical thing, though, is just to pull them off the
market because no one's taking them yet.

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Yet countries are still buying the vaccines in large, you know,
orders and they just pour them down the drain.
It's just it literally is money down the drain.
I believe it. I believe it.
Let's talk a second about long COVID because this is funny.
And, and ironically, I kind of felt this way and I was doing
some research before this and I think you've said it, I don't

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know if they should call it longCOVID or long vaccine.
Like I almost feel like some of the people and I have several
close friends who are dealing with again, long COVID.
They were they were all vaccinated, but they they're not
willing to attribute what they're continuing to face to
the vaccine. They said, oh, well, I got the
virus as well. What are your thoughts there on

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long COVID being attributed to the vaccine?
There's a very good analysis by Daxner and colleagues from
Germany, 48,000 Germans, and they carefully analyze this.
Turns out about 70% of Long Cove, it is probably really due
to the vaccine. Now, there was some lung COVID
in 2020, no vaccine around then.So obviously it was due to the

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infection. But that's been a long time ago.
People have recovered from that and we really can't attribute
it. The vaccine loads so much more
spike protein into the body thanthe infection does.
And the infections gotten milderand milder.
We treat the infection. The infection leaves just the
tip of the spike protein. The vaccine leaves the whole
spike protein in the body. So it's a much bigger load.

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And don't forget the vaccine, Pfizer, Moderna, they keep
cranking out more spike protein.They don't stop after a day or
two. They're still working years
after you take the shots. Now with Jansen and AstraZeneca,
that was an adenoviral vaccine. So that was a big blast of spike
protein, but the genetics were out quickly.
Now Jansen and AstraZeneca, theyresponsibly, they pulled their

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products off the market. So, you know, yes, listen, they
pulled it off after a couple years.
They didn't work. They were dangerous.
You still have Novavax, which isa limited amount of spike
protein. But our agencies refuse to
mention that Novavax is on the market and it's the safest of
all the vaccines. Oh, that's interesting.
That's interesting. Yeah.

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You never hear of Novavax. You never hear Novavax in in in
part of this long Covic conversation.
You know, I've remected in hydroxychloroquine those that
seemed at the beginning of Kovidto to really seem like they
work. And I think you advocated for
it. You know, I listened a lot to
Doctor Pierre Corey. I listened to who are the other

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guy, Man, there was a handful ofyou guys that I wish.
Yeah, just a few, unfortunately.But you're all, you're all
excellent. And you deserve like
Congressional Medal, Medals of Honor for what you teach.
You really do. But you know, Ivermectin it,
that seems like such a great solution for, quite frankly, so
many things. But could that help folks that

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are still still having long COVID issues?
Yeah, well, you know, just quickly in the first year, the
pandemic, our workhorse was hydroxychloroquine, which had
already been shown to work against SARS COV one.
It was a natural to to try. It's very safe.
We use it rheumatoid arthritis and malaria.
So hydroxy was about 25% effective.

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So it helped some people took the edge off it.
When my dad got it in 2020, you know, he got hydroxychloroquine.
Believe me, we, you know, we weren't going to let him go
untreated. But the real superstar was
ivermectin. That came in the second year of
the pandemic and a large trial called the ICON study in Florida
published in Chest. You know, it reduced mortality
by 50% in the hospital. Everybody should have gotten

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ivermectin. Everybody is very safe.
It's safer than taking acetaminophen or Tylenol.
Now what we have with long COVIDis that some people have what's
called a SARS COV 2 reservoir, meaning the virus is still alive
in their body and just slowly replicating.
That's been shown now multiple studies.

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It was shown in an autopsy studyby Church Allen colleagues.
It's pretty scary. You get COVID in a year later,
it's still in your body. So, you know, if if I see a
patient and they have headaches,any type of head symptoms,
headache, persistent pulmonary findings, a skin rash or night

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sweats, you know, sweaty at night, that's a sign the
infection is still brewing and there ivermectin works.
It's my practice. I put them on full dose
ivermectin. Someone your size would probably
take about 36 milligrams and Ray, we would do this for 90
days straight to try to knock out the infection.
Now, if you don't have those features, it's my impression

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ivermectin doesn't do much. So it really has to do on the
clinical suspicion. I think for vaccines, I don't
think ivermectin does much, but but most people took the
vaccines because they don't work.
They get COVID anyway. So, got it.
That's crazy. The the what?
What about fertility or infertility for women?
Like, has that skyrocketed? Right.

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Yeah, it's a disaster. There's been some animal studies
showing the COVID vaccine wipes out about 60% of the eggs.
You don't get them back. It's really sad for the women
who took it. Took it about 70% of women who
take the shots get disrupted menstrual periods for a period
of time. And and that's a big impact on
fertility since it's a really delicately time cycle on the

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men. 2 studies show it knocks down sperm count and motility
for about 6 months. Both the vaccine and the spike
protein are found in ejaculate. So, you know, a lot of women
don't want to have sex with men who've taken the shots.
And so that that alone will reduce fertility, right?
So people don't get together. And then now we have the

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breaking data by Viveka Manichi from the Czech Republic.
And this is astonishing. You know, she looked at 2020 and
then 2021. And towards the end of 2021,
after everybody took the vaccine, fertility plummets and
the number of newborn babies just falls off dramatically.
And now, sadly, today, young couples who took the shots,

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they're having trouble having kids.
Wow, that is just insane. It is insane the ramifications
and, and you know what, we're probably at the beginning of it,
right? We're not at the tail end of the
ramifications. We're they're probably going to
go on for another decade. I'm still seeing new vaccine
problems in my clinic. When I testified in the US House

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of Representatives about a year and a half ago, you know, one of
the, the panel members, one of the, the congressman asked me,
Doc McCullough, when is this over with?
And I said I forecast about 5 to15 years.
We're only, we're only five years into this vaccine
disaster. I think we could have 15 years

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of worry. Every time there's a new cancer
or a cardiac arrest or a blood clot, the first thing we should
think of is did they take the vaccine?
Yeah, yeah. Well, what was what was the was
the spike protein creation from the vaccine?
What's causing all the blood clots?
Like what's the mechanism that'striggered so much clotting?

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Yeah, the spike protein is physically in the blood clots
loaded, and the spike protein folds and becomes what's called
amyloid genic, so it becomes a rubbery.
And so these are some of the largest and most rubbery blood
clots we've ever seen. You know that morticians are
pulling them out. The doctors in the
interventional radiology and cardiology suites are pulling
them out. And I've had patients in my

(29:58):
clinic walk in. I have a blood clot from the
ankle all the way up to the navel.
I've never seen that before in my practice.
And by the way, that happens after the infection and after
the vaccine. So I've had multiple massive
blood clots in people who've just had the infection.
Oh, just had the infection. Yeah.
Oh, that's interesting. OK, that's interesting.

(30:20):
Yeah. Those, I think there was a
documentary from these morticians like that that were
showing the blood clots. They were pulling them out the,
what do you call it, the guys that do the autopsies.
I forget. What the heck?
Right, so, So Ray, we should mention some public figures with
blood clots. So Congresswoman Bobart from

(30:42):
Colorado, she had blood clots inthe vessels down there.
We had ESPN sports announcer Kirk Herb St.
He has COVID, takes the shots, blood clots, pulmonary embolism.
We had Justin Bieber's wife, Hayley Bieber.
She gets a blood clot. It goes to her brain and they
have to fish it out of her brain.

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They had weatherman Al Roker multiple slots on TV.
He gets blood clots. I mean, you know, Nellie Korba,
the number 2 golfer in the world, she gets a blood clot in
her arm. Multiple athletes.
The defensive player of the yearfor the San Antonio Spurs, he
gets a blood clot. I mean, there have been so many

(31:27):
people have been. Yeah, yeah.
Blood. And, and there's so many videos
of guys playing soccer or football on the pitch and they
just fall down. You know, they just fall down in
terms of, you know, obviously they must have had a cardiac
issue or something. There's something called
hypertrophic myopathy is I mightbe butchering that, but but I

(31:49):
feel like that was a main issue that happened because of all the
vaccinations, like the increase in inflammation.
No, to clarify, hypertrophic cardiomyopathy is a congenital
condition where the heart is abnormally thick.
OK, that's about one in 500 people.
But all the athletes are screened for that nowadays with
ultrasound. So nobody gets to walk out, you

(32:09):
know, on the playing field with hypertrophic cardiomyopathy
anymore. So it's, it's not that they had
normal hearts to begin with. They took the shots and what you
saw and in a paper by Polly Cretus and colleagues, and I'm
the senior author, you know, we showed that all these athletes
who died in 2021, it was from the vaccine, that they were
literally having heart inflammation, myocarditis and a

(32:29):
little bit of exercise. And on the, you know, on the
playing field, that's when it happens.
They have a cardiac arrest. And that's what happened to
DeMar Hamlin, the Buffalo Bill. That's right.
I yeah, they they tried to call that something different, but
that was exactly a cardiac. Issue they said because he
tackled the guy hard No, there'shard tackles all the time.

(32:51):
I watch a lot of football. I went on Tucker Carlson that
night and I told America, listen, we need to know if he
took the vaccine. He never came clean.
Michael Strahan asked him said, come on, did you take it?
He goes, well, I don't want to say so he did.
Now the good news is the vaccineheart damage is very treatable.
So myself and cardiologist Michael Gookin, we wrote the
Buffalo Bills doctors and we wrote the Buffalo NB news.

(33:13):
We said, listen, you know, we got McCullough protocol to use a
combination of nutraceuticals. It's now Wellness company has
ultimate spite detox. You know, Hamlin should be on
the ultimate spite detox and then a prescription drug called
colchicine. Colchicine.
And so in my clinical practice I've managed hundreds now of
these hundreds of people. Wow, it it's, you know, it's

(33:35):
ultimate spite, detox and colchicine.
The heart heals and we don't need a defibrillator.
Now, sadly, some people got defibrillator.
So if you remember the USC player, he had a vaccine,
cardiac arrest. Hui Chu Chu.
He got a defibrillator and so did Lebron's.
Son had Lebron's, Son had a cardiac.
Lebron's son had a vaccine, cardiac arrest, but he did not

(33:57):
get a defibrillator and they don't need them now.
If now, if they get McCullough protocol, they should be fine.
Of interest pilots. No.
You might have heard about him. He's flying the American
Airlines jet. He takes the shots.
About six weeks later, he lands a plane at DFW airport.
He's a cardiac arrest, you know,after people got off the flight

(34:18):
and there's actually a story called the Miracle of Pilot
Snow. This is pretty amazing.
So everybody had left. All the doctors were gone.
I wasn't on the flight, but all the doctors are gone.
The poor stewardesses and, you know, they're panicking trying
to get the defibrillator. He's out.
Pilot Snow is a full blown cardiac arrest and one of the
stewardesses, she gets on her phone and she calls 911.

(34:40):
Now, DFW airport has two circulating paramedics at all
times. I know because, you know, I know
those guys. A couple of of my patients.
Anyhow, the miracle of pilots knows when they called, one of
the units happened to be at the gate next door.
Can you imagine? They're at C20 and the guys are
at C21, so they literally come over and by the time they get to

(35:04):
pilot's snow, it takes 6 shocks to get him back.
That's a lot of shocking, but they get him back.
He's neurologically fine and he's in the air.
He's in the hospital in Dallas and, and he makes a video, he
pulls up his hospital gun and heshows where he got fried from
the defibrillator. He goes, this is what the
vaccine did to me. He goes, I'll never fly again.

(35:25):
So I had a chance to meet him and examine him later on.
He took, he got a defibrillator put in and he's on my color
protocol and, and I, I asked him, I said, has your
defibrillator ever gone off since you put it in?
He goes, no, oh, thank God. So I think a lot of people who
got defibrillators really don't need them.
If they get proper treatment, they have to get the spike

(35:47):
protein out of the body. And that's what the Ultimate
Spike Detox does from the Wellness company.
I got you, I got you. OK.
We've talked turbo cancers, we've talked infertility, we've
talked excess mortality, you know, overall with vaccines,
Like, you know what, what is thedeal?
Like? Obviously it's a financial
thing. Like the one that always blows

(36:08):
my mind is giving a perfectly, perfectly newborn baby whose mom
did not test for hepatitis B. Why does the the five minute old
child mandated a shot of Hepatitis B?
What are your thoughts on all that?
It's completely unnecessary and and what the COVID-19 vaccine

(36:29):
debacle did is it opened our eyes to what was going on with
vaccines. I wasn't paying attention.
My kids are grown up. I don't think about this.
But we're now up to, I think if you count the the newer
products, we're up to over 90 doses of vaccines before age 18.
The WHL wants to see that numberat 500, believe it or not, by

(36:51):
20-30. Paul Offit, vaccine promoter on
CNN, he's from your city of Pennsylvania.
He wants to see 1000. I mean, these vaccine zealots,
to them, there's no limit. And you can imagine you give all
these shots, sooner or later, it's going to be a side effect.
You can't. There's no free lunch here.

(37:11):
And because they all stimulate the immune system and about 20
vaccines, by the way, have a side effect listed called
encephalitis or brain inflammation.
Well, sure enough, and some kids, they get brain
inflammation and after a big battery of vaccines, they can
end up with sudden infant death syndrome.
They just stop breathing in the cradle.
About 75% of all sudden infant deaths occur within a week of

(37:36):
taking these shots. So in, in Florida now they're
going to they're going to mandate all the sudden
infinitesence cases to have the vaccine records review.
This is it's long overdue. And then the McCullough
Foundation just came out with a really critical report.
We've reviewed all the information, most comprehensive
report today, over 300 citations, I think over 130

(37:58):
primary data studies. The answers are clear.
Giving a big bundle of vaccines is a risk factor for the
development of autism. Yeah, it has to be.
It absolutely has to be there. Such a direct correlation
between the increased number of vaccines and the rise of autism,
ADHD. You know, I grew up in the, I

(38:21):
grew up in the, I was born in 72.
So the 80s, early 80s and 90s, none of this stuff existed.
I don't remember any of this stuff.
It took off after 1986 after thecompanies were given liability
protection. I grew up in the six in the 60s.
I don't remember any kids with ADHD or autism.

(38:42):
And now we know that allergic illnesses like asthma, food
allergies, allergic dermatitis, ADHD, autism, ticks and
seizures, they've all been linked to the vaccines.
Now there are some other risk factors.
So parents having children at anolder age, premature baby before

(39:03):
37 weeks, Many times they get blasted with vaccines in the
hospital. That could be it.
Women taking drugs during pregnancy.
The big ones are serious psychiatric or depression drugs
or seizure drugs, not Tylenol. Taking a dose of Tylenol for a
headache can't possibly cause autism two years later that

(39:25):
that. That's a complete falsehood.
Yeah, I feel like that entire Tylenol charade was a way to put
the attention somewhere else instead.
Of where it didn't work, No, no,nobody bought that immediately.
The American College Obstetrics and Gynecology came out and he
said, listen, there's no way Tylenol is perfectly safe during
pregnancy. And in fact, the manufacturers

(39:46):
of Tylenol, you know, they're going to take the government to
court. And I was listening to CNBC.
Kendall is a company being acquired and and they had the
guy and he goes, we're quite convinced on this one that
they're going to prevail. I mean, Kennedy and Trump and
Macri and Oz and Bhattachar, they just look like fools up
there. They do.
They should have come clean and said listen.

(40:06):
You, you know, they, they shouldhave waited honestly from
McCullough Foundation report or another report that's very
comprehensive and say, listen, this is what Doctor McCullough
came up with. So what we know now is now this
is out. There's been a report in JAMA,
60% of parents are not going to go through with these vaccines.
60% Vesuvian and colleagues fromin JAMA, they just said, listen,

(40:28):
it's just as too much. And you know, these little
babies, when the mother is hepatitis B negative, the babies
don't need hepatitis B shots. Now, maybe if they go be a
doctor like me or a nurse later on, you know, towards, you know,
age 20 or so, you can take a shot.
It's probably fine then, but not, you know, not on the first
day of life. So there's been 12 studies in

(40:49):
the McCullough Foundation reportand, and this has been published
now the European Commission preprint server.
In our report, 12 studies show ahealthy child born today is
healthier if they take no shots whatsoever.
That makes total sense. It's kind of like the Amish.
I think the Amish have no vaccinations and they have the
lowest occurrence of every single issue.

(41:12):
What was I going to ask you? What about?
What about like the shingles shot?
You hear a lot of older people, My mom's doctor's, trying to get
her thoughts there. Well, you know, it turns out if
you had chicken pox as a child, you have a lower rate risk of
shingles compared to taking the chicken pox vaccine.
SO5 studies show if you took thechicken pox vaccine now you're

(41:33):
at increased risk for shingles. Makes sense.
And so the shingles vaccine is not very effective.
It may work for a few months or a few years and only partially
effective. Then you don't have any
protection. I personally took it probably
about 20 years ago and and I gotto tell you it had the most side
effects. It was the roughest vaccine I

(41:54):
ever took is 14 times the dose of the chicken pox vaccine and
it's completely unnecessary. I had chicken pox as a child.
My doctor, you know, talked me into it.
I regret it. I don't advise anybody take it.
It's easier to treat shingles totell you the truth.
We treat it with with Valtrex and Prednisone.
Just treat it on day one and we can we can snuff it out in a few

(42:18):
days. I don't think it's worth the
shingles vaccine. OK, OK, great, great.
I I already know the answer to this one, but I'm going to ask
you the flu shot. The flu shot has gotten so bad
now, your people have always said they took the flu shot and
I got flu. Yeah, there are randomized
trials showing and children, if you take the flu, if you take

(42:40):
the flu shot, you're more likelyto actually get the common cold
over and over again. That's what happened to me.
I took 40 flu shots. I got to the point where I
could. I couldn't.
I was getting a cold every monthin 2021.
I think it was all those flu shots.
I haven't taken 1 now since 2021and I'm finally healthy.
So it knocks down the immune system.
It barely does anything against flu.

(43:01):
Effectiveness is way, way less than 50%.
And now a Cleveland Clinic studyby Shreff and colleagues show
the more you take the flu shot, the more you get the flu.
So it's exactly what people thought.
I think they should drop this flu shot.
We've got 4 FDA approved antivirals.
We know how to treat flu. We don't need to keep taking flu
shots. Is the no, I totally agree.

(43:24):
I haven't taken a flu shot in almost 15 years.
And I'm so glad I'm, I'm, you know, people are waking up a
little bit. I think people are waking up
because of folks like yourself, because of the experience that
people had with COVID and with the vaccines, even if they're
not willing to admit, you know, they've had these side effects

(43:45):
or had issues, I think people are finally starting to wake up.
And, and again, you deserve so much credit in that.
All right, anything else, Any other advice you have for people
in terms of just being healthier?
What about your diet? What do you, do you have a
particular diet, exercise, otherthings?
Let's talk that stuff. Yeah, well, you know, there's a
Great War between kind of vegetarian and keto carnivores,

(44:06):
and I tend to fall down the middle.
I my brief dietary advice, whichI follow is, you know, I eat
high quality sources of protein in this order, fish, beans,
nuts, egg whites, not that very occasional chicken and beef.
I don't eat pork anymore becauseit has the genetic vaccines in
it. So I get just get pork out of
the diet and then fresh fruits and vegetables are unlimited.

(44:28):
I, I don't sweat it if I eat an apple or an orange and, and I've
never seen somebody come in my, my clinic too fat from eating,
you know, a grapefruit or something.
It just doesn't apple. Now I try to avoid sugars,
sweets, sweets and treats. Starch is just the big one.
I don't eat any goods. No bread, no cookies, no
crackers, no chips, no potatoes,no rice.

(44:52):
If you don't do that, you'll have a flat belly.
I bet you don't eat much yourself.
You look pretty. I don't.
I don't actually. I eat exactly how you eat pretty
much, pretty much even in that order.
You know, people don't realize how good beans are for you and
legumes and getting fiber from those sources.
Yeah, I was just a little hungryright before I got on and my
wife had gotten out some pistachios.

(45:12):
I just had a few pistachios the edge off my hunger.
And the last thing I avoid is saturated fat.
May not have a little butter on corn on the cob, that's fine.
But you know, these keto carnivores, they're eating
sticks of butter and it's reallygross.
And so I tend to, you know, I had on my show, Doctor Joel
Kahn, he wrote the vegan approach to heart disease.
I tend to side with him. I think the data are about 98 to

(45:35):
2 in favor of a more vegetarian approach.
And there's, yeah, probably fivedays a week I'm vegetarian.
Two days a week. I'll eat some meat, but, you
know, I don't eat gobs and gobs of meat.
I honestly, it kind of gagged me.
I don't know. And I had keto carnivores on my
show. And every time they, they seem
to get sweaty and nervous and they start shouting at me and

(45:56):
telling me I'm wrong. And it's like, Gee whiz, yeah, I
said, you know, So I think that's what I do on my dietary
advice. I try to work out every day.
Like today I had a full workout in the morning.
So I use a 36 inch leg roller. I roll out, I stretch, I did
curls. I did 2 sets of 20 curls, 2 sets

(46:17):
of 20 push ups on a bar. I did hand weights on an
exercise ball. Then I go into sit ups and core.
I do side sit ups, which are hard to do.
And then after I finished that, I went out and I ran.
So I ran outside. Beautiful day in Dallas, ran
outside a few miles, came back, showered up, went to work home

(46:39):
now. So I'm on with you that that's a
typical day. Now the other thing, right, you
may not agree with this. I don't drink any alcohol at
all. OK, no, that's great.
You know, I, I I'm pretty much the same these days.
It's just been a natural progression off of alcohol.
So yeah, I don't drink much these days either.
What about, what about step count?
Do you track your steps? Do you wear a Fitbit or an Apple

(47:01):
Watch? You know, I don't, I'm just kind
of naked. I don't wear any devices.
I don't know, I. Got you covered.
I've got an Apple Watch and a Fitbit, so I've got.
You know, I did one time back when they had the old technology
step counts. I wore it and I'll never forget.
I was in the hospital and clinicand it was miserable.
I got like 3000 steps. It's a very sedentary job and my

(47:24):
wife at the time was taking careof our two little kids and we
lived in a big house. She got like 12,000 steps and I
finally got rid of that step count thing.
I said, listen, I'm just going to have to go run with and, you
know, a good exercise to do. And I don't do it very often
except when I'm in hotel rooms. But burpees, you know what?
Burpees. Yeah, sure.

(47:45):
I mean. Burpees I I do 10 of them and
I'm like completely short of breath.
Those things will light you on fire.
Yeah. The whole movement, you know,
you want that blood going up anddown.
Your, your lymphatic system needs to needs to move.
It's got to get that blood going.
All right, listen, I am going tolet you go.
I know you have some things coming up.
I really appreciate it. I really enjoyed the
conversation. And, and, and more than

(48:06):
anything, I think people need tostart taking their health
seriously and they need to startpaying attention and not just
listening to what you know, especially what their government
tells them when it comes to their health.
But even some doctors, you know,I think some doctors are so
rigid in, in following the book.That's why I, I've gravitated
towards guys like you and PierreCorey and, and other guys.

(48:28):
So I really appreciate it. Any parting words for everybody?
Anything you want? People to, you know, just follow
me everywhere. I've got a New York Times best
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(48:48):
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(49:09):
Out Loudtalk Radio, McCullough Report every 2:00 PM Eastern on
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I'm Doctor Peter McCullough. It's been great to be on the
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