What the F—aculy: The Missing Adult Supervision in Anime Schools

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Someday we're going to record a pre-reel and the
following statement will benonsensical because there will
be a pre-reel for it.
But welcome to Richard and CarlPresents Deep Space and Dragons
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I would present you physicaldeep space, but technically it
would be an empty box.
My name is Richard.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
My name is Carl and I would present you a dragon.
But if they did exist, theyseem to have gone extinct.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Or they just went somewhere better.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
I mean, that's entirely possible.
They might have just gone to analternate dimension.
But who knows?
Maybe a company like Colossuswill like find dragon DNA and
splice it onto a lizard, andthen we'll have Komodo dragons
that are actual dragons man.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
they make a throwaway line in World Trigger where
they just straight up go oh yeah, these invading neighbors were
probably every extraterrestrialsighting Bigfoot, loch Ness,
monster and basically allsupernatural phenomena were just
them abducting people fortryout organs and it kind of
tracks.
But before we get too far intothe weeds here about our very

(01:03):
focused, very on-brand podcast,what's?

Speaker 2 (01:06):
new in the Carlverse Well you know, I mean maybe I
don't say this as much as I havein the past, but on our podcast
we believe in self-care.
You know, stay hydrated,exercise, go see a doctor every
now and then.
Stay hydrated, exercise, go seea doctor every now and then.
I mean you gotta keep yourselfin prime condition, right?

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So I went to see a doctor for acheckup and he told me to go
get some blood work done.
Cool, I don't really likegetting blood work done.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
So one time I went and got blood work done and I
watched A person pulled it fromyour body and used it to chop
someone made of diamonds Intomerch.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
No, no, but I watched them Like they stuck the needle
in and then I watched the bloodspurt into the little vial
Trigger warning Blood spurting.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
Ugh.
Remember, this is one of myweaknesses.
You're doing psychic damage tome.
Please continue.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Apparently, it's one of my weaknesses too, because I
looked at it and my visionstarted to fade as I saw the
vial they were filling.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Oh no.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
I didn't actually pass out, but ever since then
I've been like okay, I can'twatch, so I'll close my eyes or
look away or whatever.
So I go to the redacted clinicand I have an appointment, so I
get in right away and they takemy requisition sheet, rec sheet,

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they call it Uh, and they'relike okay, uh, just need to
confirm your name and date ofbirth.
Confirm my name and date ofbirth.
And this lady she wasn't veryfriendly, but she was a pro,
because I look away and like Idon't hardly even feel the
needle prick in, uh, and thenshe had to take like three
different samples and shemanaged to change all all the

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vials without actually likedisturbing the needle somehow.
So it's like it was super quick, it was done and I was, I was
like completely painless.
I was like, okay, cool.
And they're like, okay, and yougotta do a urine sample.
It's like, oh well, I went tothe washroom right before I came
here would have been nice, butwhatever it's like, will you
provide me some tea or somethingIs a fair response to that.

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No, but so I just took thecontainer home.
I was planning on going backlater with the urine samples,
yeah, but like three or fourhours later I get a call from
Revecta Clinic and they're likeis your family doctor?
Is it this Dr Milan?
I was like, yeah, that's myfamily doctor.
They're like okay.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
I don't think you doxed anyone there.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
Well, I don't think.
So I'm assuming there's morethan one Dr Milan in the world.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
All right, so we'll go with Dr Milana for now, and
that should brainwash peopleenough.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Anyway, he's not really relevant to the story,
but he could be one of ourlisteners, maybe, anyways, but
maybe, like five minutes laterthey call me back and they're
like oh yeah, there was a mix-up.
We need you to come back and doblood work again.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
They lost your blood.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Like uh-oh.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
There's a vampire stealing your blood.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
That would be more exciting.
So by this time I've been ableto get my urine sample, I'm like
, okay, I need to go back anyway.
So I go back to the clinic andthey're like, oh yeah, yeah,
we'll get you in right away,We'll get it done real quick for
you because we screwed up orwhatever.
And I sit down and the ladythat took my blood the second

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time she was very friendly and Imuch more appreciated that part
of the experience.
But, holy diner, she was somuch less gentle with the needle
and with the changing of thevials and stuff.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
It was like ah, so you got stabbed.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
Well, I mean, it definitely hurt a little more
and the one arm is kind ofbruised.
The other arm is like there'sjust a little prick mark from
where the needle is, because Ididn't get it done on the same
arm, because that would havejust been madness, that would
have just been madness.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
That would have just been madness.
Although apparently you have alucky arm, it turns out.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Maybe, or maybe it was unlucky, because I guess the
first lady who I assumed wasextremely competent and
professional I guess I don'tknow if my stickers were on the
same sheet as someone else's orwhat, but she put the wrong
person's label on my sample, andso then the hospital is all

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confused because this Madelineperson no idea who they are.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
No, no, I'm telling you this was all done
intentionally for a vampire,just to score a lunch Like blood
just goes missing because itgot sent to a non-existing
person.
It's like the most economicalway to vampire in 2025.
Like not only do you get a lookat their health records and
know how clean the blood is, butlike who's hunting down missing
blood.
You're fine, perfect crime.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
Perfect crime for a vampire, but regardless, as far
as I know, the second sample wassuccessfully sent to my vampire
doctor, dr Moana the vampire.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
Moana is such a great name for a vampire, no one
would see it coming.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
But then Then today I received a call from the
doctor's office.
Um and uh, I guess I'm a littlebit like, I'm slightly
concerned and maybe something todo with this whole kerfuffle,
the blood getting swapped around, uh.
But they're like, yeah,actually we need to use to do
like more blood work and stuff.

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I was like, oh well, okay, Iguess I'll have to go get more
blood work and stuff.
I was like, oh well, okay, Iguess I'll have to go get more
blood work done.
Hopefully it's not just arandom misunderstanding.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
So, on one hand, I care about my friend's health.
On the other hand, I know whoyou are as a person and it's
like your blood at this point isreally more of a sauce.
I know your eating habits.
What you're going to be told isyou should improve your eating
habits.
What you're going to be told Isyou should improve your eating
habits.
You're 30 something now.
That's what's going to happen.
If I had to guess.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Well, my guess, aside from just Missed files.
Getting misfiled, my guess Iwas once told by a Blood lab
technician or nurse.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
A sanguinist, if you will.
Are they nurses?
Sanguinist.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
Anyways, they were taking my blood and they're like
, oh, you have really thin blood.
And I thought about it.
It was like, okay, well, I meanI don't bruise especially
easily, but I do often bleed,even when I'm hit by blunt
objects.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
I remember you telling me that the metal
counter is made out of blood,thinner Maybe, and being like.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
What is this?

Speaker 1 (08:11):
noted with and like actually taking that statement
far too seriously.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
Anyway, I was at work a while ago and I'm just
working away and then I seethere's a blood smear on the
counter and I'm like what,where'd this come from?
And I look at the tip of myfinger and I have no idea how I
cut myself.
But it's just this tiniestlittle cut that's just bleeding
a tiny little bit, but itwouldn't stop bleeding for like
three hours.
I do just love this idea thatvampires have just been feeding

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off you.
for years Maybe have just beenfeeding off you for years.
Maybe I don't know.
In any event, that's my theoryis that it has something to do
with my blood being thin.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Oh.
Well, on the other side I wasreally nervous during the story
you were just going to tell melive on recorded podcast you had
cancer.
Because that's a Carl move,that is an insane Carl move you
would do.
It's be like.
So I learned I have a rareautoimmune disorder and the
first time you're finding aboutit is on this live podcast.
I'm just saying, if anyone wereto poll, that it would be you

(09:15):
specifically.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
I uh, first things first.
Like I say, I believe inself-care, and going to see the
doctor if it is feasible for youis a part of self-care.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
Especially if you have to do the benefits to drain
.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
Because if there is something that is seriously
wrong, it's better to catch itearly and then hopefully be able
to still have a long and happylife.
Fair, that's the moral of thestory is keep up self-care, and
getting regular medical checkupsis an important part of
self-care.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
Man, I did the opposite of physical self-care
this week.
I think it would count asemotional self-care, though.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
So what is new in the Richardverse?

Speaker 1 (09:58):
Okay, so last week I was planning to do nothing but
unfortunately ended up popular.
Did I mention the gala on lastepisode?

Speaker 2 (10:05):
You did mention the gala.
Someone bought you all.
Someone gave you money to buy aticket.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
So I ended up going to this gala last week.
That was last week, right?
I don't remember anymore.
I think I told you pre-gala butnot post-gala.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
Pretty sure that's how that worked.
Time has lost all meaning, sodue to a, friend of mine that I
met at a wedding a few years-.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
well, I knew beforehand, but we had met up at
a friend's wedding, mutualfriend's wedding, and this
friend kind of unlocked anability in me, so this friend
dragged me to the dance floorand was like, if I can dance,
anyone can dance, and thisperson is objectively they're
cool, but not in theconventional sense.
So this particular friend, whoshall remain nameless, is not
the person you'd expect on adance floor ever, but like

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that's where I like practice,because I had this lightning rod
drawing everyone's attentionaway to do dancing.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
So at the Scala.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
I'm using the free bar for everything.
It's worst because it was anopen bar, enjoying waves of
meals singing karaoke, bustingon the dance floor because I had
a theory.
No one will ever believe my tenor so classmates that were there
that this happened.
No one will believe thatRichard, as soon as the music
started, took off his tie, threwit behind him, dramatically

(11:21):
threw off the blazer, wentstraight onto the dance floor
and started busting a move.
No one will ever believe themthat this happened.
Nor will they ever believe whenhe climbed up on stage and
poorly sang Eye of the Tiger andthen sang a romantic duet
during karaoke.
These are not things people canimagine me doing because I am
objectively terrible at them,but that's the bit.
No one will ever believe themthat this happened.

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Even listening to this podcast,it sounds fake.
The idea that I just went andactually like partied at this
gala is insane to visualize, butit was like such a yolo moment
of the only people from this whowill ever see me again are
people who actively try to stayin touch with me, which right I
gave that line for book one ninenine a few times to people who

(12:06):
have been saying all week likegoodbye forever.
Unless you Google my name andclick on the first result and
send a message.
I'm like the most easily doxxed, easy-to-find human being who's
ever lived, so it's like ifsomeone loses touch with me
they're just not trying.
Like I'm pretty sure you couldjust yell Richard and I'll
probably show up.

(12:26):
There's decent odds.
So I go to this gala.
Then a new Gundam anime comesout.
So I download a stupid Gundammobile game which is like just
an SD Gundam, like theturn-based strategy one's mobile
game.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
So I've been listening to Gundam on TV while
playing Gundam on my phone,while sending out job
applications, nice, nice.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
So I've been listening to Gundam on TV while
playing Gundam on my phone whilesending out job applications.
Nice, nice.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
So I'm emotionally feeling great the new.
Gundam series is an alternateretelling of the One Year War.
But Zeon won because Char juststole the Gundam.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
So that's episode one , and then episode two is like
seven years later and I'm likethis is great.
I have no idea what's going on,but I love me some Gundam.
I'm like this is great.
I have no idea what's going on,but I love me some Gundam.
Plus, I'm one of those heathensthat prefers dubbed anime to
subbed and Gundam alwayslaunches dual language for the
most part.
Right.
So like I'm just out here, likeother than preparing for grad
school and job hunting and thisand that, just kind of living my

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best life.
for a couple weeks Busted outthe old PS2 to play some Gundam
vs Zeta Gundam.
Those good times were had.
I also learned that GotchaForce was developed by the same
team that developed Gundam vsZeta Gundam, where Capcom
stopped making Gundam games.
So instead they made GotchaForce, which uses the Gundam
game engine, but they use theirown units in it.
Right, there's a piece ofknowledge that no one ever

(13:44):
needed or asked for well, I mean, that's on brand for us oh yeah
, that's pretty clear podcastand I think I taught everyone
well.
And with that note, we're goingon to the topic of anime
teachers.
Disclaimer for this list we'regoing to try and focus on ones
that also actually teach andaren't just a sensei, because I

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was thinking about this and I'mlike the five elders from
Kenichi, for example, the fivemasters taught him a lot of
things, but I do think you canactually count the jiu-jitsu guy
as an actual teacher because healso helped him study and
taught.
But what could each have beenbetter if these super experts

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were all.
I like to say that that showwould have been better if it was
college age to begin with,because it would have made more
logistical sense.
But what if each of the elderswas also just a teacher with
their subject.
Would that have actually justbeen amazing that all five of
them just taught differentactual classes at college?

Speaker 2 (14:48):
That would have been pretty amazing.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
Like you, just go to fourth period and it's just
Apachai teaching art history.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yeah, see, so I so the main reason that I wanted to
talk about teachers.
In anime, there's a series onCrunchyroll.
It's called the Irregular atthe Magic Academy.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
Yes, I have thoughts about that.
I have so many thoughts aboutthat show.
But let's see where you'regoing with this first, before I
start ranting about resurrectionguns.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
So I haven't gotten very far.
I just I started the secondplot arc of the first season.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
Is that where he builds the floaty belt?

Speaker 2 (15:34):
Yeah, that's where he builds the flying device.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yes, Okay, cool.
I wasn't sure my memory wasthat good on this one.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
The first plot arc is just called enrollment.
I think it's like six or sevenepisodes and terrorists.
Okay.
So first there's terroriststhat are seeking to cause social
upheaval by taking advantage ofthe disparity between magic

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users and non-magic users.
They're trying to basicallycause a civil war to destroy the
country from within.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
Ie the plot of every comic series ever made,
particularly X-Men-style comics.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
Right, but so some of the students that sympathize
with the terrorists becausetheir school is divided into
class one and class two.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
Yep.
Wasn't it like the snowflakesand the rejects or something.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
Blooms and weeds.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
That was close.
I do appreciate, in 2025,calling a class the snowflakes,
though.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
Anyways.
So class two, the weeds.
Some of the students sympathizewith the terrorists because
class two isn't as good at magic, and so they steal the master
key to the broadcast room andthen they break in and do a
broadcast.
Eventually the broadcast getsshut off, but they're still in
the room and it's locked andthey can't get out.

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No one can get in because themaster key has been stolen, yeah
, and the student council istrying to figure out what to do
here and they're like, oh well,stealing the master key is
literally criminal activity,yeah, right.
And then they decide Not toinvolve the police and instead

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have a debate Between them andthe people in the Broadcasting
room.
Sure, and they go to the debateand there's Firstly, it's not
really a very good debateBecause there's no moderator,
right, but secondly, this istheir response to criminal
activity and there have beenzero adults that I've seen.

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And then, while they're doingthis debate, they kind of get to
the end of the debate and theactual terrorists attack and
they stop the terrorist attackon the school and they manage to
figure out where their base isand the students and the student
council decide to go and raidthis terrorist base, like you do
, like you do.

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Right, but nowhere, at anypoint, has there been any
teachers, no adults whatsoever,and so, and one of the issues
that class two has is that theydon't get the same amount of
resources as class one, one ofthose resources being faculty

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time yeah, office hours.
It's like office hours yeah,that's what I mean to say, but
there's no faculty.
I haven't seen them, they justdon't exist.
It's a, it's a school, and I Iget that the story is not about
the lessons or the classes, uh,but like at least have like a

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teacher explain a concept thatyou know is then going to be the
focus of that episode, like why, and so I was thinking about it
was like how many series have Iseen where it's supposedly set
in a high school but there areno teachers?

Speaker 1 (19:22):
so it's interesting because the series I'm going to
pivot into, which which has many, many other problems, like a
deeply problematic series of theTo Aru no Index and its various
spinoffs, and they lampshadethis problem in an interesting
way.
So teachers barely ever do shitin that show.
They occasionally will, butthey set this academy city to

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develop supernatural powers inpeople right.
They set up this academy cityto develop supernatural powers
in people right.
No-transcript.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
So it's like you have to start with kids showing
special abilities and then youtake them to this place to
amplify them.
So there's almost no teachersin this, but it doesn't bug you
as much Like why are we sendingkids if one person can flick a
coin at the speed of a railgunand the other one has a riot
shield and a baton, so they willuse the?
There's one professor that'llshow up in Expo Dump once in a

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while about how the power systemworks, and that's pretty much
it for adult interference in theshow.
But at least like because theregular in the Magic Academy is
like.
You think you'd have peoplewith magic teaching the magic
school to begin with.
Right, that would probably bethe strategy.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
Well, I mean, like I totally get it that it's like
sometimes that the academiasection of the show is not
really the focus, Although I dothink part of that problem
because I'm going to interject abit is I think people
underestimate the value of theacademia portion of a show.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
As someone who likes those portions of a show, it's
the super genius problem, supergenius problem.
So when you write a character,to be smart, you yourself have
to be smart and I do think a lotof people writing manga don't
have it retained enough fromhigh school to convincingly have
a teacher give a high schoollecture.
So to dunk on my Hero Academia.

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My Hero Academia takes place ina school Straight up and the
professors are all heroes.
Place in a school Straight upand the professors are all
heroes in the hero school.
This makes sense.
This is a good concept.
And then they just send thechildren to the front lines to
fight, because I guess that'swhere the action is, and then
just the school stops being athing, even though they couldn't
even get through two schoolyears.
I'm like, did you just not havemore than four lessons planned

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for for this manga?
Because they're like we'regonna do a power test and then a
fighting thing and then aschool festival.
I guess we're done with theschool.
And I'm like schools operateconstantly.
Is there nothing else you canlike?
Don't you want to like worldbuild or lore build or have more
, like they like to call themfiller moments?
But I'm kind of pivoting moretowards character building

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moments because, like my, mostof my favorite moments in my
hero academia are when they werestill students.
Like I don't, like I don't findthe league of villains jumping
them more interesting than themusing their superpowers to put
on a rock concert.
Like the balance made sense.
So my hero just like yeah, it'scalled my hero academia.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Funny that they turned the school to put on a
rock concert.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
The balance made sense.
So my Hero just like, yeah,it's called my Hero Academia.
Funny that they turned theschool into a flying fortress at
the end for some reason yes, tokeep the school relevant.
And I'm like, yeah, no, younever had these professors teach
a lesson in their life.
You had this little subplot ofAll Might reading a how to teach
guide so he could be a betterteacher, and instead he just
builds a mech suit and goes outhimself Cause he didn't teach

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anyone a damn thing over theentire show.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
It was kind of a terrible teacher.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
He even mentioned, to protect that he'd get seven
superpowers.
Like that wasn't relevantinformation.
Imagine saying I tutored thiskid and he broke both his arms
and his legs and be like yep, Itutored him Great.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
But then it's like there's a series like
Kaguya-sama Love is War.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
Yeah, there's no teachers in that.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
There are no teachers in that, but most of what
actually goes on in there theymeet at school, they go to clubs
or whatever.
But most of what actually goeson happens outside of school
hours.
Yeah, or a lot of it happensoutside of school hours, yeah,
or a lot of what happens a lotof it happens outside of school
hours.
I mean full disclaimer.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
that's just one of my favorite series of all time,
Somehow.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
So it's like that's another series where it's like
there aren't really any teachers.
They don't, they never doanything, but at the same time
you don't really notice becausethe students aren't stopping
terrorists well, the thing about.
Takagi Asama though is.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
There's a few.
They mention the schoolpresident a few times and he has
a couple sit downs being likeyou're the student council
president.
There's like adults that arepaying some attention.
There's a few moments where anadult will pull a character to
have in the side, or other timesmaybe, like the teachers don't
notice the bullying.
But then there's a bullyinghappening in a way that it makes

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sense that the teacherswouldn't notice the bullying.
Like oh, when they're outplaying soccer, some kids just
called him a weeb and this girlstarted spreading rumors over
Discord that he's a creep.
Yeah, a teacher wouldn't reallybe able to do much about that
until someone actually were tocome to the teacher and tell
them this was happening.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
But like but so yeah, oh sorry, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
Oh no, you go ahead.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
Well, I was going to pivot into one of the the stupid
new series with the gun.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
Oh Marshall King.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
Marshall King.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
We haven't talked about that at all on podcast and
I do want to throw a couplethings about it.
So for those who are unaware,it should be everybody.
Marshall King is a manga seriesbeing done by the creator of Dr
Stone, I believe.
No, it's not the creator of DrStone, I believe.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
No, it's not by the creator of Dr Stone.
It's by the artist of Dr Stone,who is himself a Korean manga,
a Korean manga artist and writerwho just moved to Japan.
And before we tear the series,a new one.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
It has the best use of color I've ever seen in manga
, where they keep it like 90black and white, but I'll use
gold for dramatic flair andeffect and it looks artistically
.
Shout out to that technique.
I would love if a better storyused that art style.
They're like very controlled,deliberate, like if it makes me
think of like sin city and I'mlike, yeah, noically, that's

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amazing.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
Okay well, so I don't necessarily want to throw too
much shade at it at this exactmoment.
I actually wanted to highlightsomething.
I've mentioned it already whenyou have a teacher and they're
out on the front, they'reteaching a lecture, and they
just say, say, oh, and in thiscase, this is the gun that

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caused the apocalypse that madethe world a desert wasteland,
sure, and it's here at thisschool, and then it's like it's
an exposition dump.
It's just a reason to, yeah,dump.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
That's why all these places schools in the first
place right, so it's like.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
But for all of his flaws, at least marshall king
has teachers that genuinely doteacher things, and as an
audience member I can then knowokay, this is going to be an
important theme of the show, orI mean, well, it's interesting,
it's not resolved way tooquickly, but as someone who
likes the monologue aboutgundams.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
Several gundam series start with a character like in
a classroom of someoneexplaining the current political
structure although it's, butlike the real thing is using the
teacher who explains things,but also having to be a
character, because it's so easyfor a teacher in these to become
npcs.
So let's take sadaro gojo, theprotagonist of jjk.

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Sadaro gojo is objectively theworst teacher, and jujutsu
kaisen taking place at a schoolis the most pointless plot
choice they made.
There was no reason for thereto be a school.
No, no one attended a singleclass.
Yeah, and like I didn't evenmind the idea that there's

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literally three students in eachyear, because that's how many
people they found with weirdsuperpowers, I actually like
that part.
Like I had an epiphany there,like as a writer, being like oh,
you're right, I don't need 20NPCs in this room, I can just
have there be less people withsuperpowers.
But because of superpowers youget one teacher per three
students.
That's fair.
But then the show likeimmediately promoted the

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students to field agents within30 seconds, and I'm like why are
?
they even students, just ageeveryone up to being adults and
have them, recruit them and givethem an office.
In fact, jjk would have been somuch better if yuji mcgummi and
Nobara were adults who hadgraduated high school and Gojo
just rolled up and said comework at my agency and it was

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like a nice lawyer office wherethey proceeded to then go,
murder, curses and have terriblethings happen to them and it'd
be the worst life decision ever.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
No-transcript Because it gained nothing from being a
school.
It really did.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
But like.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
It gained nothing.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
Now here's what gained everything from being a
school.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Assassination classroom, so I was actually
going to segue.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
oh okay, counterspell my segue, I'll force by no, no,
no, no this website is calledwwwrankercom, yes, which is
funny, because it's not theirthoughts, it's literally
people's opinions.
Ranker's wild for that.
It's like if ranker doessomething insane on his listings
, like putting seven JJKcharacters in anime's top ten

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hottest men, for some reasonthat's the voice of the internet
.
It's literally popular opinion.
Ranker's great for giving usawful information about humanity
, but please continue.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
The best teachers, best teacher characters in anime
history history.
They seem to think more senseithan school teacher Number one
Kakashi Hitake.
He is.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
So here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
I would agree if it was Aruka sensei, because Aruka
sensei is genuinely a teacherand he's a real character in the
show.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
Kakashi's been coasting on his Riz for like 20
years because he was also in 5thplace for.
Tardis Anime Men.
Because I watched that listingearlier today Because someone
did a video on it.
It was really funny and it waslike Yuji and Sukuna made it on
the list.
I'm like that's just the samedude.
But once tatted up, this is adumb list.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
But so the segue why I decided to segue here Is that
Kakashi is number one, notreally a teacher.
I mean, he's a sensei, but he'snot.
He walks in one classroom andhas a brush fall on his head and
does a belt test, Exactly.
But Koro-sensei is number twoanime teacher in history.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
I do think that, like Kakashi, just like I said, is a
cooler character thanKoro-sensei Kakashi, just like I
said, is a cooler characterthan Koro-sensei Kakashi, the
actual protagonist of Naruto.
Fun fact, if I were to make aNaruto gachapon game, I'd have
you play as Kakashi, Becausehe's the person actually
building.
Kakashi is actually athroughline throughout the
entire story.
He's the.

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Pokemon trainer to the othercharacters.
But, he failed to teach Sasukeanything so hard and like he
also didn't it's funny hedoesn't teach Naruto a damn
thing to act to Likedeliberately.
Just, oh, I'm going to go teachSasuke in the Sharingan's Only
Club.
Sakura can just I don't knowcut her hair and go die.

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I don't care.
Like Kakashi was a terriblesensei, like objectively he was
an awesome Black Ops ninjaTerrible sensei, because, yeah,
rurika was a decent one.
You had mentioned thatAssassination Classroom, which
is where Koro-sensei comes from,was actually a really excellent
Like I said, I have my onecomplaint that the final fight

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had two squid monsters and theydidn't use their entire arc of
squid monsters.
Training to kill one of thesquid monsters was just such a
wasted opportunity.
It had a perfect ending, butits final fight could have been
better.
But still a gold standard.
Koro-sensei literally knowsevery character and they use it

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as a writing device to make us,the readers, at least know
something about a truly largecast, and by the time you get to
the end of it, you have apretty good idea about most of
the people in that classroom.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
I definitely agree.
That is a great example of anactual school teacher in anime,
even if he is an alien, and it'san action set piece kind of
show but he's also theprotagonist he is also the
protagonist.
He's actually the protagonist.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
So Eraserhead, for my Hero is like right on the
middle he starts as a teacherand then they forget to be about
the school completely.
So when you get him doing itit's like I cut off my leg
before the anti-quirk bulletgets to me.
To stare at him to turn off hispower, because I'm awesome,
sleep-deprived Batman.
I'm like okay, but you startedas a teacher and then you just

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outsourced everybody tointernships and fieldwork and
you just kind of never actuallyfinished teaching anyone.
He had a strong start and thenthe show forgot.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
Have you ever seen Bungo Stray Dogs?

Speaker 1 (32:59):
Bungo Stray Dogs is amazing and terrible and
beautiful.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
So Asamu Dazai, is he actually a teacher?

Speaker 1 (33:08):
Is he?

Speaker 2 (33:08):
actually a teacher.
Is he actually a teacher,though?
No, he's an employer.
Okay.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
He literally is like this is our book detective
agency, welcome aboard.
He's not a sensei, he is aburnt out librarian.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
Specifically, and I relate strongly to burnt out
librarians.
Have you ever seen greatteacher Onizuka?

Speaker 1 (33:36):
He should be on a watch list.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
So he is also not a school teacher.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
I'm going to give a tangent on this one.
So when I started at working atRedacted Pizza about 7, 8, 10
years ago now, my kitchenmanager was into a few very
specific 90s animes he was intoand he had a bunch of tattoos
and was skateboarding in theback of the restaurant.
Guy was a legend.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
He liked Dragon.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Ball like you do.
He liked Naruto like you do,and he recommended to me great
teacher Onizuka.
Onizuka's motivation and thisis so 90s, you could not write
this manga in 2025, is he becamea high school teacher to find
himself a teenage bride,specifically, and was a former
biker gangster.
Huh, and he's actively.

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He accidentally becomes a superinspiring force and
accidentally becomes a goodteacher, but his motivation was
to be a creep.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
I see.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
So it was an interesting read, but like the
idea of like a gangster comes toa school for selfish awful
reasons, ends up inspiringpeople because he's like 22
years old, becomes a substituteteacher, like the premise was
good, but like the idea thatlike that kind of like master

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roshi style comedy is dead,that's it.
It was literally based around.
Like the master roshi stylecomedy of this 22 year old wants
to lose his virginity so hedecides to become a substitute
school teacher is a terrible,terrible premise that would
never get greenlit.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
I see.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
And probably inspired a lot of series after it.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
Well, so, like I said , I'm going down this list of.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
But I will say, ironically, if you rewrote this
and changed his core motivationto literally anything else, he
was actually a good teacher.
It's just fun fact.
We've decided that teachershitting on students should not
be a thing and there's a lot ofentire decades of movies that
try and say that it's fine,right yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
So I was.
Just I was going down this listof great teachers in anime and
Onizuka is.
I lost him, but he's in the 40.
No, he's number 39 on this list.
Somehow he manages to findhimself above Henry Henderson

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from a spy family.
A spy family is only at 46.
And going down this list, thatwas the first actual school
teacher.
I mean my Hero Academia doesn'tcount.
There was a bunch of teachersfrom there.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
So I'm looking at the ranker list as well, and I will
say so.
They have Azumi Curtis on herefrom Full Metal Alchemist, in
terms of being a teacher.
If she had a classroom, yeah,fair enough.
Like, if Fullmetal Alchemistwas a high school anime, she
would objectively have been agood teacher For the purposes of

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our discussion today.
Nope, although you did mentionIruka, I'm like you know if
Naruto'sos like spent longer inthe academy days would have
absolutely counted what?
the hell is awesome doing onhere?
No, no, what is madonna doingon here?
Madonna never taught a day inhis life.

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He's just like.
Madonna's teaching job resultedin obito well, and then like
life.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
He's just like.
Madono's teaching job resultedin Obito Well.
And then like the frog, senseiFukasaku Like what, oh?
Or Kisuke Urahara Also,definitely not a real teacher.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
So not a meow, let them have In JJK.
Like I said, they weretechnically students and he was
technically an improfessor.
More importantly, he actually,unlike Ojo, actually taught Yuji
things.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
But he was like he was absolutely a mentor.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
Like that was a mentorship.
Like you should have beenpaying Yuji.
He was doing professional labor.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
Master Roshi is actually an interesting one.
I mean, he is a perverted oldsensei trope, yeah, but in
original Dragon Ball he doesgenuinely teach Krillin and Goku
math and reading and writing.
He just does it in a pervertedlecherous way.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
So it's like Roshi does better than a lot.
The fact that Kurosensei's notliterally at the top of this
list is just an insult.
Kakashi belongs at the top of alot of lists.
This is not one of them.
Also online is way too high upon this list for it being the
teacher list.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
Really, this list just seems to be popular adult
characters in animes.
Really, this list just seems tobe popular adult characters in
animes.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
Right, like we'll go down a bit and we'll go to
Igneel, who did in fact teachNatsu how to read and write, and
Igneel if this was a list ofbest anime dads, I have Igneel
like first.
Probably Igneel was a great dad.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
Fairy Tail was a pretty good series in general
and I mean it gets props for notbeing in a high school and it's
just.
It's kind of weird that theseries is not in a high school
and yet Igneel is 22 on thislist of greatest teachers.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
So it's funny.
It's like we're talking aboutgreat teacher Onizuka and the
idea that gangster whoaccidentally inspires people,
kind of like the karate, likealmost like the Cobra Kai
teacher guy.
It's like, yeah, like teacherswho aren't school teachers but
are like specialty teachers arefair game in this discussion,
but we want the classroom to bea factor, because the original

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debate was where are all theteachers?
And I find it falls on like aof either.
there's no teachers in thisanime or these teachers are
shounen protagonists and aren'tactually teaching anyone
anything.
So we all go all the way downto 31, Frankenstein.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
Oh, frankenstein is actually a teacher, right in the
middle Right he teaches classes.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
He mentors people.
In Right in the middle heteaches classes.
He mentors people in and out.
Of the classroom, his firstexperience is him trying to
murder them and he beats thecrap out of them and then he
shows up the next day to give alecture.
He is absolutely a teacher anda side character, but pretty
good.
Soul Eater had good teachingstaff.
They had the zombie guy, theyhad him.

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They actually taught things atDeath Academy, like they sent
them out on missions, but theythen, like, went back to
lectures.
So I would say Soul Eater hadactual teachers who did their
jobs pretty well.
Including literal death fromthe Bible did his job pretty
well too.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
But do you think that he deserves to be higher on
this list than henry henderson?

Speaker 1 (40:37):
frankenstein yes frankenstein's better than henry
henderson as a teacher sofrankenstein, while going insane
, while falling in love withanother teacher, turned out to
be an evil witch, did a lot ofteaching like soul eater for the
first half of it, kind of likemy hero, but to a more like
consistent consent.
Yeah, no, he did his job prettywell and he got more screen

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time.
Was he a better anime teacherthan Henry Henderson?

Speaker 2 (41:07):
If Spy.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
Family came out regularly and was a completed
story.
It'd be a much firmer debate,but he just hasn't quite had
enough screen time to teach yet,yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
Screen time to teach yet, yeah, that's true.
I mean they did do his wholewartime backstory with his lover
, lady friend that went off towar.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
But on this I've been building internally by removing
everyone who doesn't count onthis list.
I have Stein at like four, likeI don't even put All Might on
this list because he just wasn'tgood at teaching.
He never actually taught aclass.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
Okay, so Koro Sensei is definitely number one.
Who was number two for you?
Izumi Curtis.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
I'm still using their list.
I'm just removing everyone whodoesn't fit in it.
So, number two, just usingtheir list, but, being correct
about it, we go all the way downto Iruka.
Yeah, okay, and then we go,because he actually genuinely,
was a teacher.
Then we go all the way down toShoto Azawa Eraserhead.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
We put an asterisk next to Nanami.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
We go all the way down, going, still going, still
going, still going, still going,still going All the way down,
still going to Stein At likefourth down, still going to
Stein at like fourth.
30 people on this list wereobjectively not teachers.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
Objectively not teachers I mean.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
Silver Raylight did not teach.
That's not what he did.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
Yeah, I mean.
So sensei is more of just anhonorific term in Japanese, but
in North American culture in myopinion anyways it definitely is
more that master-apprenticerelationship rather than that
actual student-teacherrelationship.
And so this seems to be moresenseis rather than actual

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teachers.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
Because, yeah, like Roshi gets close, like Roshi,
I'd probably also put a starnext to him Because, like, at
one point he actually sets updesks even though he has them
read on pornography.
He was not a good teacher, buthe tried.
He is actually a teacher, though, where Igneo was just a dad.
You don't get accounted as ateacher if it's your son you're
teaching.
You're just a parent and likewhat the heck is?

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I understand.
Naruto's a popular anime.
Let's get the third Hokage offhere.
He didn't teach anyone anythingof value.
Did we have like Biscuit fromHunter x Hunter?
No, cut that out.
Dazai just teaches you new andfun suicide methods, so he
really shouldn't be on this listas a teacher.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
Right so.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
Stein definitely counts.
And then we go down, we go down, we go down some more.
And Onizuka was the next onethat's actually a teacher
Onizuka, which is that greatteacher from Onizuka.
Okay, that makes sense and thenchainsaw man's a funny one

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because like if someone hadactually put denji in high
school, his life would be somuch better right now well, I
mean, he does have a few momentswhere he's actually in high
school, because I mean the wholepoint of the second.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
Well, the starting point of the second act is him
being at school and taking thecontrol demon, the reincarnated
control demon, to school.
And she only goes along becauseshe enjoys going to school, but
she knows that she could justkill everyone if she wanted to.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
So then we scroll our way down and then we get to
Henry Henderson at my eighth,seventh or eighth on my revised
list, where I moved everyonewho's objectively not a teacher,
right?
So Henry Henderson woulddefinitely go on the list.
So, president, mike, I'm notcounting, he doesn't teach a
class, he's just like the em,the MC in the radio hall, like

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no Midnight's a little closer,she does teach a class or two.
I'm going to let Reagan count.
He doesn't teach in a classroom, but he's absolutely like
full-time mentoring this kid.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
Fair enough, and definitely not the sensei
relationship, because he's justhe's not a sensei relationship
because he's just not a sensei.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
No, he's ragged, he's great.
I'll have to put an asterisk onhim.
I don't think I can actuallycount him.
So then we get Yuyuko Uramuranext.
He's actually a teacher 100%.
So in Blue Exorcist, unlike JJK, which felt the need to have a
classroom with no one in it,blue Exorcist Exorcist Academy

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like actually had like a fullgraduation program that took a
case over years and likeactually taught.
And he actually taught like hehad his teaching license and
went and taught people how toexorcist while being the
protagonist's brother.
He's absolutely on this list.
He was a good teacher.
Sure, he got possessed by Satan.
He was a good teacher.
Sure, he got possessed by Satan, but he was a good teacher.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
Madara Uchiha from Naruto.
He's a good teacher, right.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
I mean, who is he?
Even a sensei to Obito, I guess?
When he was gaslighting him,maybe Like that was just a weird
choice to be on this list atall.
Like Madara doesn't teach, henever like stood there and be
like, here's how you do the handsigns for a fireball, jutes?
No, he preached, and then wegot I'm not, I'm not counting

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Sapele.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
No, nah, I thought about it.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
But no, he mostly just pontificated and explained
to us what was happening.
The viewer.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
Right.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
Maybe like they never forgot Jotaro never got, like
part one's weird, because thetraining arc would have made so
much sense and a time skip wouldhave made so much sense, but
that just didn't happen.
He's like here's how you punchthe frog, and then Joe could
just punch the frog and it wasdone.
Likewise, wing Sensei fromHunter Hunter was just there to
show us the Nym type chart, andwe're getting near the end of

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like people I recognize.
We got Ur from Fairytale, whichis much closer than Igneel, but
she did adopt those two icewizards she trained, so it's
like those were your children.
You're not a teacher if you'reteaching your children.
We got anime characters thatare absolutely not senseis.
Get rid off this list, get corn, I was gonna say ren ren tosaka

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from fate stay night.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
But she, she is not even a sensei, like she's not a
teacher in fate zero, and then,like the later, fate sequels.
In this franchise from FateStay Night.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
She is not even a sensei, you know, the joke being
that, in Fate Zero and then,like the later Fate sequels in
this franchise, Weber from FateZero goes to school, gets his
teaching degree and becomes amage instructor.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
And is actually just a professional magic teacher in
a lecture hall teaching studentshow to mage.
That's who should be there, oreven like the actual teacher
from.
That was like a martial artistperson who didn't really
accomplish anything is at leasta teacher.
That name should not be on thislist okay.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
So I mean now I think we've gone through the flawed
list enough that it's like okay,so there's lots of animes that
have senseis.
It's kind of like I need tostop when we're knowing I'm on
this list before we like move onto like there's lots of animes
that have senseis.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
It's kind of like I need to stop before I'm on this
list, before we move on to ourcore topic and wrap up, I
finally got to a character fromKenichi Right.
So in Kenichi, a show about sixcharacters specifically
training the protagonist,probably the closest from
breaking from sensei to actualteacher, because a lot of these
senseis don't actually teach,they just show off their

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superpowers.
Which Kenichi character do youthink showed up first for best
teacher?
Knowing what you know about thecharacters and this list is
best teacher who do you thinkshowed up first?

Speaker 2 (48:49):
Well, I mean.
So it's been a while since I'veread Kenichi.
I see that Shigure Kosaka isnumber 71.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
I am so mad about this.
This is completely unacceptable.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
Isn't she the weapons master?

Speaker 1 (49:02):
She's the worst one at being a teacher, by a lot.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
She doesn't use weapons.
She shows up like twice andmostly just makes him a shirt.
It should absolutely.
He doesn't use weapons.
She shows up like twice and,like, mostly just makes him a
shirt.
It should absolutely be theJujutsu guy in first Apochi,
maybe in first because he hasthe most passion for it.
I could even see a goodargument for the alcoholic
karate guy who absolutely issuper invested in his student

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but pretends not to care.
Right, but like, all of themare objectively better teachers
and like, I'm sorry, jujitsuguy's the one who came up with
an actual training plan andtrained him every day, that was
his actual teacher, the one whoactually taught him things.
Sure, he didn't do shit.
I call bullshit, like okay then,we get to sakaki two down, and

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then we get to asami kojetsu twodown, so like they're all the
kanichi people are prettygrouped together, so like
there's only like four spacesdown.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
But I'm so bitter about it uh, here here's the
funny one from the list uh,number 87, the best teacher in
anime history, goku no,absolutely not I don't think he
taught anyone.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
I don't even think he taught oob anything I agree
with the list for the first time, where apache is absolutely a
better teacher than goku and atone point he kicks the student's
soul out of his body and has tobring it back because at least
he like tries to teach himthings.
Oh man body and has to bring itback Because at least he tries
to teach him things.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Oh man.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
Oh, here's a character who absolutely should
not be on the list.
So you know I mentioned I readthat entire we Never Learn
series.
That's now doing that Sidcraftseries.
So the teacher from we NeverLearn is on the list.
So remember how, at the startof this list, I pointed out that
a male teacher who's threeyears older than their students
becoming a teacher here on theirstudents is completely morally

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unacceptable and should beshunned by society.
This professor ends up marryingthe protagonist of the story in
one of these plot routes, whowas their high school teacher.
If a girl does it, it's adating option Like Persona 5.
5.
This was so funny.
So one of the teachers inpersona 5 is a creep and your
first mission, persona 5, is tolike break into his mind palace

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and get blackmail on him becausehe's a creep.
But one of your dating optionsis a different teacher and I
just think it's kind of fuckedup.
I'm using my f-bomb of theepisode for that To be like hey,
if this man hits on a woman andthey're a teacher, we as a
society are like that's terrible.
If we gender role flip it, itshould still be equally terrible

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.
That's just objectively true.
It's just as bad, but one ofthem is a good ending for a
manga and the other one is avillain.
Just as bad, but one of them isa good ending for a manga, and
the other one is a villain.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
Okay, so, stepping back to the idea Of teachers in
schools, yes, so the bottleneckPortion of Hyperfixating on the
list.
World, trigger World triggerthe bottle test.
Hyper fixating on the listabout it will trigger.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
Will trigger the bottle test why would you do
this to me?

Speaker 2 (52:21):
so I mean it definitely implies that there is
an academic portion to theorganization for some reason.
Yeah, so there's an academicportion to border we don't
really see them go into any,like the organization I'm
blanking on the name for somereason Border, Border.
Yeah, so there's an academicportion to Border.
We don't really see them gointo any like classrooms prior

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to the.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
Well, asamoah's in like regular high school at the
start.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
Him and Yumi go to regular high school for a while
I don't, Would you say any ofthe characters in World Trigger
actually count as teachers orare they more in the Sensei
category?
Because there are lots ofadults that do adult things,
which is my main complaint aboutthe irregular at the Magic
Academy, where there just are noadults doing any adult things,

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where there should 100% beadults dealing with terrorists,
100% be adults dealing withterrorists.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
So for World Trigger specifically.
World Trigger is my number oneexample of if you just age up
every anime character by threeyears, your story becomes
perfect.
So World Trigger is a part-timejob Right, and all the
characters act like employersand managers and supervisors
like they should.

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So if everyone in World Triggerwas 18 and it's like they should
.
So if everyone in world triggerwas 18 and it's like, oh yeah,
I'm in college and then I havelike classes two days a week and
I go do border service theother two days a week, they
absolutely act like bosses andthey do it really well.
Rendo is a great boss, butbecause it's like paramilitary
for uh, for border, they're allmilitary style bosses.

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Rendo's not a teacher.
He doesn't sit there and teachyou things, he instead has Azumi
.
Oh, what's her name?
I want to say Azumi, but that'sprobably wrong.
Whoever their operator is,whose name eludes me right now
because World Trigger has like500 names their squad operator
is told by their boss hey, teachthese new guys how triggers

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work.
So she goes through, breaksthem down, pulls out a
whiteboard explains the type oftriggers Well, they're splicing
and gin, having fight scenesagainst those triggers and it's
like yeah, she's not a teacher,she's the same age as this guy,
but from a work point of view,she is his supervisor.
Like was literally told by themanager okay, train these new

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recruits for a workplacestructure.
It's perfect, right?
Like?
think about your own pizzeria.
You're absolutely be like hey,vlad, can you go teach this new
guy how to make a pizza?
Be like yeah sure, I don't knowhow you're my boss, but this
happens, so I might as well doit.
And I proceed to go do it, andthen me and you would probably
go back and have a drinkafterward like world trigger
makes absolute sense and likewhen we think about where our

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own lives are at, like whenwe're working part-time at
redacted donuts.
Yeah, that was kind of thestructure of their managers, not
teachers, because it's a joband world trigger is very overt
that it's a job, to a pointwhere a character's like do we
get paid for this?

Speaker 2 (55:17):
Right right.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
And I think World Trigger would gain nothing from
it being an academy.
I think it would gaineverything from putting everyone
college age, where they'reactually able to just disappear
for a month and just make upclasses later, because college
you could just not go to class,and that's the thing that blows
my mind about these animes thatare like using schools but not
really is.
In japan you're not going tograduate high school.

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If you disappear for a week tofight demons, you're just not
college.
You can just retake classes.
That's how colleges arestructured and take a smaller
course load uh, mashal.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
Mashal is kind of an interesting one.
I don't think there's anyactual teachers in mashal
counterpoint.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
There's no characters in mashal.
I read every chapter of mashaland I know one character's name
and it's mashal.
I did not retain anyone else'sname.
Gimmick backstory none of it isin here.
So, yeah, every teacher couldhave been named with their own
superpower, their own backstoryand personality.

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I wouldn't have caught any ofit Because my brain was not
prepared to absorb Mashal lore.
Nor was Mashal written in a wayconductive to naturally
absorbing it, because if theywanted me to know any of these
characters' names, I'd have itin here.
I would, I promise.
I'd have better odds namingevery character on Assassination

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Classroom's class list, I'd getfurther in that.
Also, all three characters inAssassination Classroom should
be higher than any of these show.
And protagonist teachers Eventhe ones who get paid as
teachers, like Gojo, getsteacher salary.
That's unacceptable.

Speaker 2 (56:56):
Gojo is a trash person.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
Just full stop.
Gojo's a terrible person.
He always has been.
That's kind of the bit.
So I've actually been watchinglike I'm waiting for it to get
bad, but I'm on like episodethree of a series called From
Old Country Bumpkin to MasterSwordsman.
And I thought it for it to getbad, but I'm on like episode
three of a series called FromOld Country Bumpkin to Master
Swordsman Okay.
And I thought it was going to beIkasai garbage and then it
turned out not to be an Ikasai.

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Then I thought it was going tobe harem garbage and it turned
out not to be harem garbage.
It might literally be about anold man who trained a bunch of
people to be swordspeople whoare then being recruited by
their students who are now inlike the royal military to teach
the royal military, becausehe's actually the best swordsman
in the world but didn't know itbecause he basically lived in
Swift Current and, like ithasn't lost me yet, it could

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easily go into harem garbage orlore garbage or other garbage.
But like the few episodes aremore about like his sword
technique and him actuallyteaching people swords.
And I'm like, yeah, this man isa teacher, him actually
teaching people swordsmen.
I'm like, yeah, this man is ateacher.
He's like you're stronger andfaster than me, but your
momentum was wrong and mydynamic accuracy was enough that
I could just simply tilt theblade to the left, catch it and
then pistol whip you at thehandle of the sword.

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Okay, and here's why you werestanding wrong and here's how I
did this to you.
You scrub, but he was likepolite about it.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
Okay grub, but he was like polite about it.
Okay, from country bumpkin tomaster swordsman Gotcha.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
I don't know if it's good, but like it seemed
appropriate for this.
And then the Gundam Witch fromMercury took place in an academy
that had a Gundam going.
For some reason there was noteachers in that at all.
None Didn't matter, didn't evenpretend it mattered.
Should have been teachers in itall.
None, didn't matter, didn'teven pretend it mattered.
Should have been teachers in it.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
There was not, it's just.
There seems to be a lot ofseries where it's like this is
an academy, like that, food Wars, food Wars, food Wars
definitely takes place in acooking academy.
Sure it does, sure it does.
I don't think there's anyteachers there who's teaching

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anything.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
Oh, they do that.
Oh, like there's some gamblingone.
I did a liar's game, I think itwas.
Was that like gambling school?

Speaker 2 (59:09):
I don't know if it was like liar game or not.
I remember there being agambling school one.
Maybe it was liar game.

Speaker 1 (59:14):
I don't know.
There's some gambling schoolone that took place in the
gambling school where yougambled and it's like there's no
teachers there.
It's like, yeah, yu-gi-oh, theywere high school students, but
that didn't matter, although, inYu-Gi-Oh's defense, oh, our
students went out to play cardgames after class.
Yeah, the adults don't need todo anything.

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Someone tells you the fate ofthe world depends on the card
game.
You laugh in their face likeyou're supposed to, and then
blue lock just locks people injail to play soccer which to be
fair is about how actual sportstraining camps go.
Just lock people in jail to playsports and then threaten to

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kill them if they do bad.
That's how you teach sports.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
Shinobi Undercover is another interesting one, where
there are adults.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
So I ended up dropping Shinobi Undercover.
I like the premise because Ilike Full Metal Panic's premise.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
But like.

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
I don't know.
It just kind of like didn'tpull me in.
I don't think it did anythingwrong, like it didn't spite drop
it.
This wasn't a RoboCo situation.
Although I will say thesingular character in Full Metal
Panic.
The teacher there does actuallyget a fair amount of screen
time as an actual teacher andthe reason that she doesn't do
much when actual terroristsattack is she is a regular

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teacher in Japan and her oneproblem problem student she
doesn't know is a trainedmercenary and it actually the
most qualified person to dealwith this problem is, in fact,
the student by like a lotso it's like he's like there's a
bit later in fact, the studentby like a lot.
So it's like he's like there'sa bit later in, when the series
decides to stop being a comedy,near like the three quarters

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mark, where he's just like ohyeah, I've just been a trained
assassin this entire time toguard the student.
And she's like oh, I see, Ithought we were doing bits.
Nope, actual terrorists areattacking now, so I'm gonna go
deal with that okay thanks byelike, oh, I thought this, no,

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but it was like I'm fine withonly like a character or two
like homeroom teachers andthings getting names, but man,
do they love to place charactersin especially superpowered
schools and not have professorsbe equipped to handle this in
any way, shape or form?
to the point where they just,the professors, basically don't
exist and the student body justgoverns itself and then there's

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the opposite problem of like thegojos and kakashi's and a lot
of people we bitched about onthe list where it's like you're
just another action character,you're not a teacher, you're
just here to be a strongerprotagonist.
So it's like a lot of thesesenseis are literally measuring
sticks to be like here's howstrong a strong character is, so
we can judge whether this newcharacter is stronger or weaker

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and we can judge the maincharacter's power level compared
to them.
Like Akashi existed, just as ameasuring stick for Sasuke and
Naruto.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
And he's not even a very good one, because the
measuring stick isn't evenconsistent.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
Yeah, but he also gets.
It's funny because, like, werethey going to kill him off?
No, because he's the actual.
Like the main villain is Obitoand his rival is Kakashi, not
Naruto.
Like Kakashi's fight with Obitobefore he goes into Super Obito
was like yeah, no, this is likethe show about generational
will could easily be reframed tobe about Kakashi.

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It would not be hard to editNaruto into being told from
Kakashi's point of view.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
I mean then you wouldn't get the awesome
slugfest between Sasuke andNaruto when they run out of
chakra.

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
See, it was awesome.
But if Kakashi's your POVcharacter, that still works.
You just have him watch thatBecause he's watching his
students, Because it's like Itrained two people One of my
students turned out to be areally good person, the one I
didn't believe in.
And the one I did believe inturned out to be a bastard.
But I taught the good oneenough that he's going to win
over the other one.
For me, like it's weirdlyenough, kakashi's character arc

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could come down to his twostudents slugging it out
surprisingly appropriately,because one turned out like
Obito and one turned out likeKakashi, and the end of his arc
is Sasuke comes back to thevillage.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
Hmm, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
As he ends up reelecting Kokage.
And if Jojo's Bizarre Adventurehad any teachers in it, maybe
every Jojo would have ended upan objectively terrible person.
Jojo's is amazing.
It is fascinating.
Every single character namedJojo is objectively just an
asshole, even like the good oneat the start is, like I believe,

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about honor and fairness.
Is out here kneeing criminalsin the groin and that's by far
the nicest one.
You know who probably would getteacher status despite never
being in a classroom.
I'd probably give that toFreeran.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
Oh yeah, I mean, she's definitely doing a lot
more Well.
She's pretty close to being ateacher, I suppose.

Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
Although, I might give her the ideal problem.
I'm pretty sure she's actuallyjust Fern's mom at this point.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
Yeah and like yeah, I think she fits either into the
parent or more so, sensei than.

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
I think the big difference between our
definition and anime definitionis to be a teacher, you need to
teach multiple people.
I think is where we drew ourline in the sand.

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
And most anime senseis pick a favorite, or just
deadbeats like Gojo.

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
Deadbeats like Gojo.

Speaker 1 (01:04:54):
Gojo's such a deadbeat.
I hate him so much.
I feel like my problem withGojo is we're all supposed to
hate him.
He was written to be hated andno one noticed but me.
Like literally every problem inthe series is objectively his
fault because he was cockyenough to think he could solve
every problem in the series.
Shibuya was one million percentGojo's fault.

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He lets Yuji have the finger.
He leaves Megumi to get thefinger by himself because he was
out at a cafe, so he leaves ateenager to do this job, to get
this cursed relic.
Gets a call that the cursedrelic's been stolen, finishes
his meal, rolls up, says ah, Ican handle Tsukuno whenever the
hell I want.
Lets Yuji get more powerful.
Feeds Yuji more cursed fingers.
Sends Yuji full of cursedfingers to Shibuya to fight the

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super curses.
Signs off on that, proceeds togo suit the fight of himself.
Gets brainwashed by hisboyfriend.
He went live specifically andhe gets put in a box.
Every death in Shibuya is onGojo's head.
Everything Ghetto does is onGojo's head.
Megumi, always trying to killhimself, is on Gojo's head.

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He is the antagonist of JJK.
Nothing Kenjaku did would haveworked at all if Gojo wasn't a
dick.

Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
Well, I mean of JJK.
Nothing Kenjaku did would haveworked at all if Gojo wasn't a
dick.
Well, I mean, except forKenjaku being Itadori's mom.

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
That didn't go anywhere.
Why does that matter?
I'm serious.
Why did that never come upagain?
So of the most pointless assplot twists.
So they're most pointless-assplot twists.
So they're like okay, itadorieats his finger, it's a
coincidence.
And then anime's like, no,nothing is ever a coincidence.

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It's because of the privilegeof your birth, because we've
hyper-fixated on eugenics in ourracist country, I'm like, okay,
fine, so Yuji was specificallybred to be a Sukuna vessel, I
guess, even though a bunch ofcoincidences had to happen, I
guess he was just geneticallyproposed to eating random cursed

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fingers.
That he only did because theother guy said demons eat this
to be stronger.

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
So let's pretend this was an Aizen situation and all
of that was set up.

Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
They forgot to have a point to it.
Sukuna dips that vessel andgoes to a different one.
So what was the point?
Even if it was all true, itdidn't do anything.
Why not just have him be arandom dude?
And then we're thinking, oh,maybe a special ability he has
from this Kenjaku thing willsomehow play a role in the final

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plot to defeating Sukuna, whenKenjaku's defeated by his own
hubris by creating this body.
He never got to.
Nope had nothing to do withanything.

Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
Nope.

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
Just hit him with the friendship punch and hit him
with dismantle, because he knewdismantle, because he was
Sukuna's vessel.
Sure, just so mad at that, notrelated to our episode topic at
all.
But why did you do this to me,maga?
Why?
Why not just let a character bea dude?
It's like when I got equallyangry when they were like Luffy

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didn't just have the rubberfruit, he had the special god
fruit because his dad's specialand his grandpa's special, and
I'm like cool, doesn't that justmake all his accomplishments?
God fruit because his dad'sspecial, his grandpa's special,
and I'm like cool, that doesn'tmake.
Doesn't that just make all hisaccomplishments lame and
undercut the entire premise ofthis?

Speaker 2 (01:08:17):
no, okay well, see, uh and I actually that's
something we talked about when Iwas talking about, um, paranoid
mage.
Uh, when I got to the end ofthe series and someone posted a
comment like oh, how come wenever found out who his parents
were, and I was like, becausethat's the point, because he's
just a random dude that likejust stirred shit up in the

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magic world.

Speaker 1 (01:08:40):
Like man, they checked out on that.
On Star Wars they did.
They were going to get into itand then backed off, which is so
much worse.
Like the worst thing you do isstart making a turn and then
swerve back into your lane, likethat's just incorrect tactic,
ugh.

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But like it keeps happening.
Like all of the big four Naruto, one Piece, bleach and Dragon
Ball all of them decide to pullthe your Parentage is Special
card, although in Dragon Ball'scase it was.
You're an Alien which we're allwilling to accept, given the
things Goku does.

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
Yeah and again.

Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
Dragon Ball kind of subverts the trope even in
itself, until Super, whereBardock specifically wishes for
his son to grow up prosperous,therefore making it ring
somewhat or when Bardock was alegendary super saiyan somehow.

Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
I mean ignoring those little side tangents.
Half of the point of Goku'scharacter is that he is a lowly
saiyan and he's a nobody, andthat he ends up becoming
somebody through hard work andeffort.

Speaker 1 (01:09:49):
Which would have been so much better if he wasn't an
alien at all.
But you know, whateverTechnically, tien exemplifies
that more Shout out, my boy Tien.

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
Ah Tien.

Speaker 1 (01:10:03):
So many things, I'm shocked my hero didn't do it.
I really thought they'resetting up Deku to be like all
for one's bastard son or be like, oh, his quirk was stolen.
No, he just seemed to bequirkless and then picked up all
for one, which, coincidentally,works best when you're the most
special.
The thing that made him specialwas not being special, which I

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guess is fine.
But then he lost hissuperpowers and got his Iron man
suit.
But like is it bad?
That would have been a betterstory if he had no quirk the
entire time and slowly built anIron man seat over the course of
the series.
Like he just never, like allfor one just wasn't a thing, and
it was.
Deku gets let into hero schoolbecause he tries really hard, so
All Might just lets him in,even though he has no power, and

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he slowly builds himself a mechsuit over the course of it.
That would have been such abetter show.

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
Yeah.
Instead of just having a mechsuit out of nowhere Him actually
having to use tactics andplanning to be able to defeat
the other heroes who have powers.

Speaker 1 (01:11:01):
Right, like that would have been great.
That would have been so muchbetter.
I didn't mind.
When his power just blew him up, though, and they had to use it
in clever ways.
And then they're like insteadof being clever, let's just give
you eight superpowers so youcan just do anything.
Now, oh, the curve, the curvein my hero, because they've
abandoned the academia, like mydream manga like if someone

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wanted to write a perfect manga.
For me you would take thecharacter writing and classroom
writing of kaguya sama.
Love is war and they combine itwith the setting of something
like my hero where, like one ofmy friends who's a really
successful ya writer, put thisreally well about ya when a
character's in their teens, allthings are of equal importance

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to them.
Their, their crush, invaded theworld, are equally important to
this character.
That's how you write.
Compelling ya is a character'scrush and the fate of the world
are equally important to thischaracter.
That's how you write.
Compelling YA is a character'scrush and the fate of the world
are equal to them, where for anadult they're not.

Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
Right, unless you're watching something from the CW
Arrowverse.

Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
No, Arrowverse is YA.

Speaker 2 (01:12:07):
Yeah, but they're all adults Are they, though?

Speaker 1 (01:12:12):
Are you sure?
I'm pretty sure it's all YAlike?
I think you heard me give myrat word.
It's like nuclear missiles havebeen fired and they stopped at
like a heart to heart.
I'm like nuclear missiles.
This is where we draw the line.
The line is right there.
Nothing else matters, literallynothing.

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Why are you like this?
Because it's YA.

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
Right like CW is YA for 20-year-olds.

Speaker 1 (01:12:45):
That's why we made a new genre called New Adult,
which is YA for 20-year-olds.
You'll notice that everyone inthe Arrowverse is in their 20s
somehow.
But with that I'm going to moveto a random question.
I decided first, and then we'llgo into a regular question.
So, after going through a topic, who is your pick for best
anime teacher?

Speaker 2 (01:13:06):
Who is my pick for best anime teacher?

Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
Yeah, now that we've discussed what we mean by that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:14):
Oh boy, I did not come prepared for that, that's
what you get.
Best anime teacher.

Speaker 1 (01:13:26):
No, it's not Gojo.
You know who probably wouldcount as a teacher that wasn't
on our list.
I'd give it to Senku Senku, whoactually teaches civilization
how to do things.
That's his whole shtick.

Speaker 2 (01:13:49):
Oh Dr.

Speaker 1 (01:13:50):
Stone, I'd give him a teacher role for sure, Even
though he's younger than mostpeople he's teaching.
Blackworth came out, and whenhe was defeated- his students.

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
Specifically, he had taught enough to bring him back.
See, I have a lot of difficultywhen I'm on the spot like this.
I think of all the academiesthat we just went over, where
it's like it's set in an academybut there aren't actually any
teachers, which is a problem,because I need to think of an

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actual teacher.

Speaker 1 (01:14:26):
Here's my question.
So you're in the seriesIrregular at the Magic School.
What character would you make ateacher grab from any other
series to put in to be a teacherin that classroom?
Where there are none, who areyou promoting to teach this
Magic Academy class?
Their superpowers will beswitched over appropriately.
Like what character did thatseries need for you to not be

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frustrated at the lack ofteacher?

Speaker 2 (01:14:53):
I don't know, that's definitely an easier question.
What?
I think it would be somewhatcounterproductive because a lot

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of the series is about nullmagic or counter magic,
basically has jamming.
But I think Eraserhead actuallywould probably be like I don't
know how they would work it in,Maybe he would just have one of
those rings.
But if he was actually thereand then it's like when the

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terrorists attack he's out therewith the students trying to
non-lethal force turn off theirmagic and whatnot, I think that
he would probably fit right inall right, so I, for this same
question.

Speaker 1 (01:15:55):
I'm gonna promote nonomy to actually being in
front of a classroom.
It's a guy who clocks in, who'slike work.
I was a sorcerer and it sucked.
So I became a teacher and itsucks and it just clocks in
because, like the energy is,they're in like the loser class
and he's just like I'm in chargeof the loser class because I
was an accountant and it sucked.
Because here's the thing aboutNanami why this would be awesome

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.
So the terrorists would attackand we've had Nanami bitch about
his job the whole time, Takesoff his tie, wraps up his fist
and name of your allies andtheir locations and beats the
terrorists.
Like Nanami would be almost awasted character.
The salaryman who hates his jobbut hates his enemies more.
That would be my pick.

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I'd throw Nanami in front ofthere.
He's just like the sorcerer.
I was a professional sorcererand it sucked.
So I'm a teacher, which alsosucks.
Sorcerer and it sucked, so I'ma teacher, which also sucks.
I feel like the series justneeds a nihilist in front of the
classroom to then shit-kicksome terrorists.
I agree, Alright, and let'spull in our actual random

(01:17:05):
question.

Speaker 2 (01:17:07):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:17:16):
This question comes in from Anonymous.
Know, I probably would namedrop people if they requested it
, all right, so what animal whocan now talk in this scenario
would you have host the podcastinstead of you?
What species of animal wouldyou have host the podcast
instead of you?
What species of animal wouldyou have replace you next week
for the podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:17:34):
What species of animal would I Okay?

Speaker 1 (01:17:38):
Or do you want to replace me with an animal
instead, because I already knowwhat I would replace you with in
an instant.

Speaker 2 (01:17:45):
Okay, well, what would you replace me with?

Speaker 1 (01:17:46):
Talking capybara Capybara so chill To play off my
chaos energy.
It Capybara Capybara so chillTo play off my chaos energy.
It'd be pretty great.

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
Hmm, I didn't really think about, I wasn't really
thinking about synergy.
I was more so thinking aboutthey need to be something.
My very first thought is Perrythe Platypus amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:18:13):
No notes, perry.
The platypus podcast would beso good.
We don't need either of usinvolved in that.
I just listen to that and hejust has this dominator right.
But like the thing is, he has adaughter, so I don't want to
rough him up too bad, so I rollup on him, right.

Speaker 2 (01:18:37):
Australia seems like a prime place for any sort of
animal to have tons ofinteresting stories to tell, so
maybe a kangaroo would be a goodchoice too.
I appreciate that A platypusand a koala that would be a good
choice too.
I appreciate that.
A platypus and a koala thatwould be pretty good, like zany

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energy and chill energy.

Speaker 1 (01:19:00):
I still want to do the mix right.
So, like, if you give me aplatypus, I feel the need to
grab.
Like something like theblandest, like I think I'd go
Canadian goose Like justsomething hateful and mean,
although, to be fair, canadianGoose would just instantly turn
into Redacted's podcast andstart complaining about how

(01:19:22):
autistic kids don't pay taxes.
That's other bullshit.

Speaker 2 (01:19:30):
Alright, okay, wait, wait, wait.
I got a follow-up randomquestion just based on my
comment bullshit, alright, okay,wait, wait, wait.
I got a follow-up randomquestion just based on my
comment there.
Beautiful, the main character,the irregular at the Magic
Academy.

Speaker 1 (01:19:41):
The Gary Sue yes.

Speaker 2 (01:19:46):
Firstly, do you know if he has a spell that restricts
his emotional range, or is hejust one of those anime
characters that is very clearlyautistic?

Speaker 1 (01:19:57):
I think he has a spell that limits his range.
I think they mentioned at onepoint using a lot of his
bandwidth for things.

Speaker 2 (01:20:06):
Yeah, okay, because it's just Gary Stu.
I mean autism isn't exactly asuperpower, because it's just
Gary Stu, I mean autism isn'texactly a superpower, but it
does come with some unusualthought processes.
Exactly In the rightapplication, someone with autism
can be far superior in avariety of ways than normal

(01:20:26):
people.

Speaker 1 (01:20:27):
Well, if I weren't, anything rich in Gundam over the
last week, it's that new typesare just autistic people in
space, almost every new type isstrongly autistically coded in
all of Gundam.
Watching it from that lens I'mlike, oh yeah, camille is the
most obviously autistic codedperson I've ever seen, but not

(01:20:51):
related.

Speaker 2 (01:20:54):
I just you mentioned I don't know if you actually did
a paper on it for your classesor not, but you had mentioned
that that Freerun displays a lotof autistic characteristics.

Speaker 1 (01:21:05):
Yeah, actually, that paper is amusingly on my like
portfolio website.
So anyone listening to thispodcast who clicks my link tree
and goes to my author websitecan actually read that paper is
amusingly on my like portfoliowebsite.
So anyone listening to thispodcast who clicks my link tree
and goes to my author websitecan actually read that paper.

Speaker 2 (01:21:17):
Um, I just I found that a I found that interesting
and B I was like huh, like thismisunderstood super genius who
is incredibly humble and doesn'tseem to realize his own
potential, but acts veryemotionally unusual.
He just appears to beneurodivergent in some way, but

(01:21:40):
it is possible he's just undersome sort of spell that makes
him that way.

Speaker 1 (01:21:43):
Let's see.
So after doing a quick Googlesearch, the first result was he
likely has ASD.
So the internet seems to be onthis.
But yeah, apparently there isplot points about it later.

Speaker 2 (01:22:03):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:22:04):
So he might be like, oh god, they might have.
Literally gave him an autismvaccine.
Oh no, oh God, they might haveliterally gave him an autism
vaccine.

Speaker 2 (01:22:13):
Oh, no.
So vaccines?
That's a question with thinlyveiled racism.

Speaker 1 (01:22:21):
Like I just like.
So vaccines don't cause autism.
But I'm not saying you can'tmagically make something in a
lab to try and give someoneautism.
That's not a real thing.
But in fiction there's noreason you couldn't and that's a
problem.
Oh, that is what a series thatwould be to read Someone going

(01:22:42):
around doing that to people somany questions oh no.
Well, we're going to wrap uphere.
Thank you for tuning in.
Yeah, I'm happy ending it onvaccines don't cause autism and
don't magically give peopleautism.

Speaker 2 (01:23:00):
That is definitely a criminal thing to do.
Bye.

Speaker 1 (01:23:02):
Bye.
Oh, what a risky territory forthe last minute.

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