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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Well, hello, my paranormal peeps, and welcome back to another
deep Woods Paranormal podcast. My name is Matt Harvey. I
am the founder and lee investigator of deep Woods Paranormal.
Next to me, you have the Raggedy Andy doll. I'm
pretty sure somebody custom made this and essentially loved him
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very much. They even put a shirt on him, a
Captain America shirt on him, which I actually like. You
can kind of see the baby dolls up above me,
and then they're over on top of that shelf, and
then of course directly behind me. Raggedy Ann is behind
me as well. So the reason I've got this doll.
You can see the creepy babyhead behind me. She's a
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really old doll. I think she's got some kind of
attack as well. A little girl it's attached to her.
This little guy seems to have a little boy attached
to him from time to time. You can see what
his own face looks like, but you'll see what looks
like a person's face, like a little kid face. Come on,
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come through and it'll be more rounded around his face,
and you'll just see it kind of like turn and
look and turn and look. It's it's really cool. The
reason I've brought him on today is because everybody keeps
me asking me about Annabelle. They want to know about Annabelle,
and then what my thoughts are on Annabelle traveling, you know, Louisiana.
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There was a couple of things that happened that were chaotic.
They want to know if I think that that caught
you know, the jail escape and the building going up
and fire, what's caused by Annabelle? And Annabelle also traveled
to Texas recently. And then that's what I call the comments,
Hey Matt, what's going on? What do you think about Annabelle?
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And everybody at work is like, oh, what about annabel
And everybody's asking about Annabelle. So my belief with Annabelle
is that she definitely is demonically haunted in some way.
I've never seen her. I did not go to visit her.
I did not want to. I don't feel like reaching
out and looking going to look for the demonic is
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something I'm interested in doing, So I don't go looking
for that stuff. Guys. I do deal with it. I
do deal with it. I go in, I clear homes,
and I help people with that kind of stuff. But
I don't purposely go looking for negative energy or negative
entities either. I don't go into those locations looking for that.
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Sometimes when we come across it, you have no idea
how difficult it is. Number one for the person that's
dealing with it. Number two for the person you know
that basically has and it has to live there. And
for me to try and figure out how do we
get rid of this thing, and how much time and
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effort it takes to go through and do the research
and try and figure out how to clear that home.
Because each location you go into it's a little different.
It's it's never the same. These entities figure out Okay,
he did this last time, I'm ready for this. And
and Binks sorry, got we got a new kit and
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mister Jack so you might see him scurry across. That's
mister Binks. But anyways, so you from time to time
we do come across those cases and we will have
to deal with those cases. And it's not fun. It's
a lot of work. It usually involves several trips to
the house or the location that's going on. It's very disruptive.
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Banks you can get disrupted. Okay, dude, Okay, your door's closed,
no big deal. So we do have to sometimes go
to the location multiple times, which is very disruptive for
the owner of the home and he's got a lot
to say. And so anyways, we you know, I don't
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go looking for that stuff. That stuff is nasty. I
deal with that sometimes on a daily basis, being pushed,
being shoved, being hit, being burned, stuff like that. Just
because I've done so many home clearings, I have unfortunately
anticipated in a few catual Catholic rituals to remove spirits
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from people. And I'm not going to get into that,
but I've talked about that in the past. If you
want to look back for that, you can look for
that in our podcast here we have over two hundred
I think now, so anyways, or getting close to two hundred,
I should say, but yeah, So haunted dolls actually like Annabelle.
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Annabelle really started out as from what I've read in
the history books and from listening to interviews with the
family and the people that originally had her, it started
out peaceful. Annabel started out as a peaceful doll. She
basically would stay on the bed, they would make the bedge,
they put her on there, and she would move a leg,
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she would move an arm. Her position would be different.
When they came back, and it was peaceful and she
loved the doll. And then it went from peaceful to
more aggressive, and that's when the Warrens were called in,
and then things got out of hand. So we got
to pull their guy's cat behind me. But so as
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I went, they went. They were able to get Annabel
into a case. We got a cat visiting us, so
we got they got her into a case and blessed
the case and were able to confine her to that case.
The Warrens, if you don't know, the Warrens had been
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investigating for a long period of time. Unfortunately, they dealt
with a lot of negative or demonic cases whatever you
want to call it, fun not fun cases, and it
really burned them up. To be honest with you, I mean,
it's not easy dealing with the paranormal number one, number two.
When you get those kind of cases, it takes a
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lot out of you and it changes you. It really does. Thinks, shh,
I think he's looking for Jack. But anyways, so thinks
I'm down. So anyways, he he in Lorraine basically would
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go into homes and clear negative energy out of homes,
naviative empties out of homes, remove haunted objects. And one
of the objects they collected was Annabelle. Took Annabelle and
they put her in this room along with other haunted objects,
and they would have that room very heavily wholly protected.
Maybe if you're not into religion, or you don't believe
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in religion, just call it, you know, a positive more
of a positive vibe. They kept a positive energy in
that room to combat the negativity that was attached to
those items. Usually, when you have an item that has
negativity attached to it, something's happened, something very tragic has happened,
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and to a person or to that item itself, maybe
it was very loved, and so an energy gets created
and it's left on it. Maybe if let's say somebody
came in and took this, this raggedy andy doll from
me in the middle of the night and it just disappeared, well,
I'd be frustrated, I'd be sad, i'd be mad, I'd
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be all those things, right, So that energy is left.
Maybe that imprint is left on the doll, and maybe
on the area where it was taken from too. Maybe
this room. This room has a very positive vibe. It's
very relaxed. Even though there's a lot of entities in
this room. There's a lot of things that are attached
to a lot of things in this room, none of
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them being negative. I don't allow negative things in this room.
I can't. I take them out of this room and
I deal with them, and then sometimes they go to
other people or whatever that can handle that kind of stuff.
I just don't want that in my house AnyWho. So
that energy is that negative energy is left on that
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on that doll or whatever, and then that negative energy
can turn into a demonic entity or a negative super
negative energy that can reach out and do harm. And
I'm not gonna say possess people, but it can, well
sometimes it can. Sometimes it can possess people. If that
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energy is transferred from let's say the doll to me,
then that could possibly possess me. There could be an
energy that's transferred to me, or an entity that is
transferred to me and is able to basically manipulate me
in some way to have negative thoughts or whatever, what
if you want to call it. We're kind of doing
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a deep dive here, guys. So bear with me. In
the case of Annabelle, that's pretty much what's happened. Unfortunately,
she has had so much negativity around her that that basically,
you know, it's scary, and that entity has gotten so
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much power from being people pretty much being afraid of
her or whatever, that it's able to reach out and
do things to people. Leave the doll, leave the doll
and move around if it's not contained. And essentially, when
you bless an item, and I know there's people out
that are not religious, so just spare with me. Let's
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say you neutralize an item, that energy can't pass that
barrier if you will, and so when you don't have
that barrier anymore, that entity or whatever, that energy can
get out and do things that it shouldn't be able
to do. I know this all sounds crazy, but this
is the paranormal. And if you're listening to this, you
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are a paranormal. You know you're into the paranormal in
some way. You're either trying to figure out if it's real,
or you're on the fence, or you're a believer or
a no or whatever you are. So hopefully some of
this makes a little bit of sense. But she's been
all over the world, not all the world, all over
the United States. And she's traveling around to different locations
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right now, and she went through Louisiana, Texas. I believe
she's in Pennsylvania. I think a building blew up in Pennsylvania,
if I'm right. I don't think anything happened here in Texas.
I think some inmates escaped when she was in the area.
And then also a building or something caught fire when
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she was in Louisiana, And everybody's trying to blame Annabelle
for this now. I mean, I think that's kind of
a stretch, but I mean it could be possible. I mean,
when you take a doll like that, like I said before,
you move her to a different location and there's not
that protection around her, a barrier to keep her from
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doing things, I mean, I would innestantly think that she
would probably be more inclined to possibly hurt somebody or
possibly try And I don't think. I don't think the
spirit or the entity or the demonic entity or whatever
you want to call them. The negative energy is able
to possess anybody, but it definitely is able to physically
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harm people and scare people and do things that are
not fun in any way, shape or form. I mean,
imagine up in the middle the night and the dolls
like sitting on your lap or something, you know, or
something's happening in the house and you're hearing like footsteps,
or you're hearing whispering, or you're you're being awoken to
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a shadowy figure roaming around your room, or doors are
opening and closing on their own or other things. Lights
are going off and on. That's creepy as hell. I mean,
I'm a paranormal investigater. I've seen all that, and you know,
it doesn't really scare me that much anymore, but it
does get my attention, let's put it that way. Well,
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that kind of stuff happens, so basically, I think that
you know, she just basically she gets a really really
bad rap. I think she gets more the more attention
she gets and the more energy people put into her.
I think the more influence she has, if you will,
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I think that people will blame her for any thing
at this point in time because of the movies and
because of everything that's happened. Were the Wares right to
lock her up? Yes, I think so. I think if
she had the opportunity. She could really hurt someone, I
really do, or she could do something worse, or she
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could use a person to hurt someone else, or worse.
Do I think she could cause somebody to go, you know,
do something terrible to somebody and decease them, or or
you know whatever you want to call it. I don't
want to say anything too dramatic, but you know what
I mean. And then we do have a child, I mean,
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we do have kids that watch a young audience that
watch watches this and listen to this podcast as well,
so I gotta be careful with my words her, guys.
But because I don't, I don't want this podcast to
be scary. I just wanted to be informative and kind
of share my thoughts with you and to get you
guys's thoughts as well. I've come across in my lifetime
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besides these guys, I was. I used to be against
having haunted dolls and stuff like that. One of the
very first cases I ever came across with a haunted
doll was at a location in California. I think it
was in Hunton Beach or something. I'm not gonna say
this client's name or anything, but she was telling me
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that her daughter was having issues. And her daughter was
i'll call it open, or more sensitive to things going
on around her than most people are. And so she
kept reporting seeing shadows in her room and stuff like that,
and parent, I'm not gonna go some water here, but yeah,
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she was being terrified at night, she was getting kept up,
having a hard time sleeping. We didn't want to sleep
in a room, stuff like that. And she was young,
she was what seven or eight years old, so I
can totally understand that. So she called us out and
we went out there, and it actually turned out to
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be a combination of a lot of things. The apartment
they were in was not the wiring and the walls
was not shielded very well. It was an older building,
probably built in the forties. Back then they didn't shield
the wiring all that well. And so I went up
to the wall, and if you've ever used like a
KQ meter, I was actually using a more direct meter
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that actually had the numbers on it, so I could
see where it was and I could go up to
the walls where the plugins were and not only would
this light up completely over, but I had one that
had actual numbers and it was off the charts and
it was flashing because it was so high, and I
told her, you know, you need to go essentially tell
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the landlord they need to fix this. We need to
move you know, you and your daughter's headboards off these
walls that have the plugins and and move this stuff
away from you because number one, it's affecting you sleeping.
And so we did that, and like I said, sometimes
it takes multiple locating, multiple times out of location to
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figure out what's actually going on. So we went back
again because she called us back and she's like, Okay,
I'm doing better, I'm sleeping better, but my daughter's still
having issues. So she had gotten this doll a couple
of weeks before. And what happens with the paranormal is
that if you come across, if you go, I can
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go into a location, and normally I can go in
and go, Okay, it's this type of case, or it's
that type of case. It's just human spirits, or it's
something else, or it's maybe it's a polsterer guy's activity.
Normally I can go in and I can pick up
on the negative entity right away. And so when I
go into these locations, sometimes these entities will hide, they
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will not show themselves. They don't want to be seen.
And so so we were in there doing an ev
We were in her daughter's room doing an EVP session,
and she had a bathroom that connected directly to her room,
so I could sit. I was sitting on the toilet
and the other team members were sitting on the bed
and stuff. And there was a doll and I don't
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think it was like an old old doll. I think
it was a pretty new doll. I think it was
only a couple of years old. I don't know if
they have got it secondhand or what. But she had
this doll sitting on the top of her playbox, you know,
which I had all the toys and stuff, and this dark,
shadowy figure just stood up right behind the doll, right
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behind one of the investigators. I was like, oh wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
hold on, And so we didn't get any EVPs. We
didn't get any EVP means basically, when you record audio
and you listen back for voices that you didn't hear
when you were recording. Normally, what we would do is
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to when we do an aud air cording, everybody records
their voice in a normal voice and in a whisper
so that we can go back later and listen. And
then we go back and listen again and again and
again again and again, just to make sure we didn't
like breathe or say something on our breath or whatever.
But anyways, there was no audio coming from this EVP session.
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We didn't get any EVPs, which usually is a sign
of something possibly demonic. So I'm standing there going okay,
and this thing just stood up and I'm like, holy crap, Okay.
I warned the investigators she needed to move. I'm like,
there's something standing right behind you. You need to get
out of the way. We need to get this taken
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care of. And so I told the client about it,
and we blessed the doll and we left it, and
I figured nothing else goings happen that pissed the doll off.
Oh boy. I got a call like a day later
and things were moving around the room and all kinds
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of stuff. So I told her, you know what, they
were moving anyway as they were leaving because they couldn't
the guy wouldn't come fix electricity, and essentially they just
they deepsix the doll. So I hope, I really hope
it didn't go to another home. Hopefully she put it
in a bag or something and it disappeared, hopefully never
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to be seen again. But uh, yeah, I don't. We
never got a name of the entity, we never got
anything else. But again, that was a demonically possessed doll,
and at that point in time, I just didn't have
the resources to take that doll home with me and
put it somewhere safe. If I was going to do anything,
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I probably would have buried it. You know, We've had
other cases where I've come across thanks where I've come
across haunted objects. There was a kid that went to
not a kid, but a gentleman that went to a
younger gentleman who went to a ritual. I'm not gonna
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say what it was, but a ritual and he was
kind of trying to figure out what he wanted to
do with his life. He didn't know if he was
going to be religious, non religious, if he was going
to do whatever. And again I'm keeping this pretty vague
just because of our listening audience. I don't want to
scare anybody or make anybody, you know, basically think, oh,
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this is not for kids. But anyways, so he went
to this ritual and he brought home a necklace. And
we kept going to this location and trying to figure
out what was going on, and again, three or four
visits in, I finally figured it out. I'm walking through
the house. I'm like, I'm in his room. I just
felt like there was something in a drawer, like what's
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in this drawer? And so I kept looking at it,
kept looking at him like, dude, what did you bring?
It just kept going through my head. Something's in the drawer.
Something's in the drawer. Something's in the drawer. You need
to get that item out of his house. So there's
something in the drawer. And so I finally said to him,
my life, dude, where is And for some reason, the
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necklace popped in my head. He's like where's I'm like,
where's the necklace? They just shot out of my mouth
and he looked at me and he just he almost
started crying and he's like whoa. And his mom was very,
very religious, and his mom didn't know what he was doing.
He didn't know that he was going to these and
we're going to get a cat walking across again, didn't
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know he was going to these events. Let's just say
and so their family was in and you know, they
were having a lot of issues. Sorry about the cat
walking by, that's mister Binks. He just wants to be
part of the podcast, I guess. Anyways, So long story short,
we buried the necklace and and where they buried it outside,
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we put a whole lot of holy water, We put
sea salt there, We put blessed salt on it, anything
we could think of to put sage. We put all
kinds of stuff in there with it and buried it
and essentially found out later that it started to smell
over there and all the plants started dying around that area,
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Like that's fine, just leave it. Do not dig that
back up. Believe it be. But it was just you know,
I haven't followed up with them because this is like
fifteen years ago and never heard from them again, which
is fine. Means that probably hopefully they figured everything out
and hopefully they ended up being okay. But yeah, I mean,
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if you notice I'm wearing a different necklace. I normally
wear my other cross. This is the cross I'm wearing now.
The cross that had it was really cool cross. It
had almost like a dagger look to it, and that
decided to get an attachment. So anything you can get attachment, guys.
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I didn't know what it was. I was basically I'm
not going to go into the whole experience, but I
had well, I guess I should state this. I had
a near death experience and I fought a demon in
another place. Let's just put that way, and or negative entity,
whatever you want to call it. This is my experience.
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To bear with me. It's just my you know what
happened to me. And I kept looking for this cross.
Then they kept telling me to look for a cross,
Look for a cross, this cross. You got to find
this cross. I had no idea it was the one
I was carring, I was wearing, and so I was
starting to become negative and frustrated all the time and
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all this other stuff. I had no idea what was
going on. And we're sitting outside actually building our chicken coop,
and all of a sudden, it just gets like, riped
the hell off my neck, and I'm like, what the hell.
And it wasn't until I picked it up, and my
holy crap, it was like it almost burned my hand.
I dropped it. I'm like oh, and I'm like, oh, no,
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and that's when it hit me across and I'm getting
goosebumps as I sit here and say this. Sorry they're played,
but yeah, so essentially that that was a crazy experience too.
That's not the whole experience. I'm not going to go
into the whole thing, but yeah, I mean that was
just insane. That was definitely de monicoly possessed. That is.
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Now I do have that in a secure location and
a blessed location, and a very guarded location, let's put
it that way, and that entity is not very happy
about being in that location, still tries to reach out
from that location. So even though like we were talking
about Annabelle being able to project yourself out, or the
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entity that's attached to annabel is able to project itself out,
I'm sure that the entity's name is not Annabelle, by
the way, that's just the name of the doll. That's
what they named the doll. But whatever's attached that cross
is very very very very very strong, I mean very
very strong. Sorry, that's what helpens we have a new kid.
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They are loving each other. So essentially that that's in
Sea Salt, I'm sorry, it's in blessed Holy salt. It
has blessed oil and holy water mixed in, and I
think I I don't remember how many different types of
stones I put in there with it. But it's in
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a very secure location so that that thing cannot get
out and cause problems. So, I mean, I know how
it affected me. I mean, it wasn't possession, but it
was trying. It was trying to possess me. If I
didn't have such strong energy around me, it might have succeeded.
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It really might have. I might have done something terrible
in my sleep. So anyways, al right, guys, so I
was gonna turn on the ghost box for the last
couple of minutes. If you're not interested in listening to
this thing squawk, you're welcome to essentially tune out. Now.
I'm gonna move the ghost box over here, and we're
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gonna try and give this guy, this little boy, some
attention and let him see if he wants to talk.
I'm up there. You go to be attached to Andy
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or no? No, m hm. So my friend is the
song for you? Yeah, it's I swear they use different electronics.
All right, and we're gonna do this real quid. I'm
not gonna let this govern. Does anybody attacking Andy that
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wants to talk to us in a little kid's voice? Oh,
buil about energy? Hey buddy, h Andy talk to us. Yeah,
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he's very he's very faint, a little kid's voice. Andy,
are you there? Can you guys let him come through
if he's If you want to talk, can you see
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if you can go plair voice something? All right? So
it's like it's mainly just another snow. I'll let it
about another minute. Does anybody have anything they want to say?
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And if you want to ta, yeah, nobody. You don't
want to talk, buddy. We're not gonna let this get
much longer. Okay, last chance, we're gonna come from this box,
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all right, right, good bottle. Okay. So every once in
a while, you know, most of the time, most of
the stuff that comes through this box is just like
you heard. It's just gibberish. It's hard to understand. It's
not really anything that I would says paranormal nature. That box,
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if you haven't heard me talk about it before, essentially
skins through radio freaking frequencies, picks up on EMF and
temperature change to create voices, and it's kind of like
a spare box on steroids, essentially. Sometimes voices come through
that box like super clear, like I'm talking to you now,
and sometimes it's it's not as clear. Sometimes it just
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kind of like, you know, you think you hear something
and it's just not. You know, it just you can't
claim it to be anything. So anyways, we're gonna put
this little guy back and let him go back to
whatever he was doing, and we will at you guys
on the next one. I can't see from behind, you
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can't hear me in your mind.