July 13, 2025 • 39 mins
What happens when you go into two different abandoned haunted funeral homes? Our next guest has some creepy cool stories of ghostly activity that happened to him as he and his crew attempted to clean them up. He also shares some other paranormal activity from other locations as well. This is going to be good.
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Speaker 1 (00:14):
Hey guys, welcome back to another Deep Woods Paranormal podcast.
My name is Matt Harvey. I am the founder and
the lead investigator with deep Woods Paranormal. I have Phil
on with me today. He's from Tennessee. He's one of
our listeners and he has quite a few stories to tell.
We're gonna let him get into it. But he's got
all kinds of cool paranormal stories he's gonna share with us. So,
without further ado, Phil, welcome onto the podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Oh thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Yeah, you're welcome. Why don't you tell us a little
bit about yourself, what you do and all that stuff.
I'm gonna fix the camera wall.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
We do that.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
There we go.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Well. For the past twenty years, I've been self employed
as a property manager, owning and operating a management company
property management company, and during that time we worked on
over forty seven hundred properties. All of these properties were
empty in different stages of decay, some new, some falling apart.
(01:12):
But you, as you can imagine, you go into forty
seven hundred houses, you're going to occasionally come across something
you can't explain, right, And the areas that we've been
into are northwest Georgia, south East Tennessee, and parts of
North Carolina and some Alabama here and there. But say
(01:36):
you remember the picture I sent you of the with
the photo of the face and the window.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
I think I do. Yeah, I get tons and tons
of photos from people.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
So well, Illus, go ahead and give you the story
on that one.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
That was.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
A funeral home at one time. It was built back
in the turn of the century. And you know, like
most funeral home, it was our family ran. And it
was two story. The funeral home was on the main
floor and they lived on the second floor.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
And of course the basement was where with a body
prep embalming, and also they had an oven down there
for cremation. So I received and it was empty, of
course when I went there, and it had been empty
for at least thirty years. Because I remember the property.
(02:29):
I had driven past it many, many, many times, and
it was it's in Chattanooga, Tennessee. This was about five
years ago when we were at the property. Okay, And
so we get there and we arrived at the property,
we drill a lot that we entered the property and
we never we did not know what it was. We
did not know what it was until we got inside.
(02:51):
Fully furnished, Yeah yeah, wow, you know, fully furnished with
everything that you would expect to see in a first
four doing our home, and uh, you know it automatically,
you just get to creep creep vibe, you know. Yeah,
you know, the uh, the built in creeper just sets
(03:13):
in pretty fast. And so we we go in there.
We all have a job to do. You know. I've
got two guys with me. We all go in separate
directions and we we when we enter a property like that,
we always lock the door on our way in so
we don't have any homeless people slipping in behind us
and hiding out in the property or coming in there
(03:34):
trying to rob us. So every everything was locked down,
no power, no water, We're using headlamps, and we go
in there and we do everything that we do and
on a first time visit and at the end of
that visit, and of course we're all moving around, so
if anything happened during that time, we would never know
it because we're making too much noise and we're talking,
(03:56):
you know, radios planning sometimes and there's a busy street
out front. But anyway, we finished and I put this,
We installed an accordion security door on the front door
to keep homeless people from sleeping underneath that recessed area.
And then I put this metal plaque on it that
(04:18):
I put on every property we go to that says
in case of emergency, and my name and my phone
number right and about oh, I guess it was probably
seven eight days later, I get a phone call from
the Chattanooga Police Department saying that they needed me to
come down to this property because there was also a
(04:39):
bus stop there too. It's right on the sidewalk. And
then you got the street, you got a bus stop.
That's a bus stop. Patron heard somebody banging on the
door asking to get out.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Oh no, yeah, so you know the year this is going?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Oh yeah, I said.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Was.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
My first thought was how in the world did someone
slip past us? And then the second thought was, well,
if you've been in there for seven or eight days,
there's no water, there's no food. So I asked the deck,
I said, did you find on the phone that you
find any way that they could have gotten in their
broken window? Of course, with the windows, you'd have to
(05:18):
have a ladder to get up there. And how many
homeless people carry a ladder and you know, yeah, and
you know it's so okay, stranger things have happened. So
I saddle up, rest up, go down there, and I
get there and there's by the time I get there,
there's three city police officers and there's one county and
(05:40):
they're all you know, they have nothing else to do.
It's two o'clock in the morning. You know, they might
want a little, you know, extra security. So I get
out and I go up and the officer says, I said,
he said, there's been someone beating on this door since
we've been here, not consistently, but every on occasion they're
(06:01):
rapping on the door. And of course this door is
about two inches thick. It's made out of mahogany. It's
eight feet tall, it's six feet wide. I mean, it's
it's it's big, it's massive. So in order to make really,
in order to make it sound like that, you'd have
to have some kind of a hammer, rubber mallet, metal hammer.
(06:26):
So okay, So I opened the door and he makes
me stay back because they want to go in there
and they want to clear the building. So, uh, four
officers go in. Two officers guard the front door. They
go in and they're there for a while and they
come back downstairs. They've been upstairs, they've been downstairs. They
(06:48):
come back and they can't They didn't find anybody. They
found nothing, Wow, absolutely nothing. And then I asked him what.
I said, Well, did you in the in the basement,
did you look and see check and see if there
was any kind of large drain pipe or a manhole
(07:09):
or something. And they said nope. They looked in every closet,
every cabinet looking for any way to get in or
get out of that property, and they couldn't find it.
Could not find it.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
And then okay, you know, everybody was scratching her head,
and all the officers we all heard it. We all
heard it. So I locked it back up, but you know,
closed a security door. And five days later, got another
phone call. Somebody's in the building. Somebody at the bus
(07:44):
stop said there's someone beating on the door. The same
officer was responded because that's that's where he works at.
That's just part of town. And he called me. He said, Phil,
there's there's somebody in here again. Okay, let's do it again.
So I dress, I go down there, and sure enough,
(08:06):
we opened the door and there was nothing there, absolutely nothing.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
And then about two weeks after that, the property was
sold to another investor and uh we never went back.
But uh and and even to this day, five years later,
the property is still empty. That's still empty, still empty.
And uh, it would make honestly, it would make the
(08:34):
great uh place to live if you could handle it right.
You know, it's a beautiful property. And you know, also, Matt,
with with what we come across, we never we never
had a backstore. We never knew of anything horrible or
(08:54):
you know, we have nothing we have We didn't know
anything about the property.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
We made it.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
And you're going in cold, yeah, yeah, and you know
and what that does? It does It doesn't pre program
you to expect a certain outcome because someone's told you
that someone died in the living room. You know, violence.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
History that you can what you know about. No, I
think so if as a funeral home, you might have
a little bit of a different opinion before you go in,
you know.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Oh yeah, And then Uh, I was thinking about this
story back way back when I first reached out to you. Uh,
and I went back and I started going through some
of the photos that I had taken of that property,
and I just thought, well, you know what, I'm going
to zoom in on these windows. And sure enough, I
(09:43):
zoomed in on that one window and there was that face.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
And the face was of a man with a handlebar mustache,
which is what you would have had, you know, thirty,
you know, back in the fifties or forties. Uh, it
looks like there's a black code on and maybe a
piece of a hat.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
And it was like wow, you know, because you know
when when I would do these do these pride, do
these jobs like that. I was there to do a
job and get paid. You know. I wasn't there to
do a paranormal research or a ghost time or anything
like that. I was just there to do a job
and get paid. And I have another funeral home story.
(10:29):
This happened probably about eight years ago, and this one
was in an area called Sequatchee Valley, which is probably
forty miles north of Chattanooga. And this was a house
that had been used as a funeral home. Now, once
again we did not know this. We just got a
(10:51):
work order to go there and take care of it
and start managing it. So we get there, it's a
large house got a ground front porch, two story, it's
probably six thousand square feet. We get there, yes, it's
a large, monster white. We get there and we notice
that there's there's some kind of a little parking lot
(11:12):
out bikes. Okay, you know they might have just done
that because they needed a lot of car But anyway,
we go on the property and we're looking around. There's
no furniture and it's empty. And then we go downstairs
and we find everything that you would need that to
do body prep. Wow, yep, I mean there's all these
(11:34):
stainless steel tools hanging on the wall. There's a stainless
steel flat table there with a drain under it, and
there's a lot of small rooms down there. So we
start going room to room and we come across this
room and it's closed and it's locked. It's got a
padlock on it. So okay, we get boat cutters and
(11:57):
we cut it loose. We open the door, shine our
lights in there, because there is absolutely no natural light
coming into this space, you know, no power, and that
kind of darkness can be claustrophobic, you know, does it
just like moves in on you? And when we open
(12:19):
that door, uh, it swallows up a lot of your light.
But anyway, we opened the door, we shine our headlamp
in there, and there were two coffins in there. Two coffins, yeah,
and they were set up on these roll around uh
carts that you see them use in the in funerals.
(12:40):
You know, they're they're accordion and they stretch out and
they were sitting on these roll around carts. Okay, it's
a funeral home, they would have coffins. And so I
called the I call the the lender on that, and
the investor say, hey, this was a funeral home and
there's two coffins in the in the basement. What do
(13:01):
you want me to do with them? He said, well
throw them away? So I'm thinking, when I go to
the landfill start sliding coffins off, what's going to happen
to me? You know, you know, you know? And uh,
uh we open them up, and you know what, check
make sure these things are empty. We may need to
call the sheriff to prize. Yeah, and uh so uh
(13:24):
we checked them they were empty and uh one of
the guys that worked with me, he said, Phil, what's
you going to do with those profits? Where we're going
to throw them away. Uh, we're going to landfilm because
that's what the investor has told me to do. He said, well, hey, uh,
I worked at this uh this massive uh spook House,
Halloween spook House and Chattanooga every year for one month
(13:48):
and it's it's it's large. He said. I bet uh
my boss over there would love to have him. I said,
we'll pull him up and tell them if he can
come get them today, they're his. Well, he comes and
gets them and they had to be carried upstairs because
the elevator was gone. So he's took him to his place.
He took some stuff he found down there. Anyway, he
(14:11):
put them in his his his spook house. And he
called me like two weeks after this he had opened
it and said, hey, do you know any backstories or
anything about these coffins? I said no, he said, I
said no. He said, well, since I brought them in. Uh,
I've got a lot of my actors who won't go
(14:34):
into certain parts of this place by themselves. And I
just figured out that it was when you brought we
got these coffins and put them in here.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
And he's and you know, he's a believer in the
paranormal like me. So he just thought, well, you know
it must be something to do with the coffins. I said, well,
you know, we don't have a backstory. So we were
I went back to the property. We were there working
on it again, doing some work, and all of a sudden,
this this elderly man was walking down road sidewalk and
he comes up and says, uh, I get break a
(15:05):
conversation with him, and he tells me that he used
to work there. I said wow. He said yeah, I
was one of the directors here and asked I told
him about the coffins and they said, what was those
coffins for? They just left over inventory or something. He said, no,
those two coffins were used when people were cremated. What
(15:28):
they what they would do is they would have a
regular service and they would put the body in the
coffin that have a regular Christian service or whatever. Then
after the service, they would close it, take it down
the elevator, remove them from the body, and then they
would they would be then they would be carted off
(15:49):
to a cremation location. And he said those coffins probably
had at least one hundred and fifty two hundred people
used it, you know, so they saw a lot of use.
They didn't get buried, but so I don't know, would
you think that some of that residual could hang on
(16:12):
to those coffins.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
And yeah, and even you know, even you know, the
intelligence haunts can do it too. Sometimes when an energy's
left on an item or a location or whatever. Let's
say it was a massive murder somewhere, that energy can
get trapped there, and if enough people put their energy
(16:33):
back into it, they come in and like investigate it
or or come in and leave a memorial or whatever.
And maybe whoever lost that person come in and they
you know, memorialize those people or that person. That can
also draw energy back to that location too. So moving
those things sometimes can draw it, you know, activity when
(16:57):
you you know, let's say you come in and remodel it,
or last how we had, we remodeled it, and as
soon as we started remodeling, all kinds of weird paranormal
stuff happened. Footsteps, apparitions, you know, dogs were freaking out
at just barking. You know. My lab would literally come
into the kitchen and act like there was somebody there
(17:18):
and bark our way back out the door. Into the
mudroom and wouldn't come out. And you know that was
just she's no longer with us, but I think she
could see spirits. And I could take a what's called
the K two device where that coker it is to
take one of these. And these are just a very
simple EMF detector. So I'll just let it up. That's
what it does when it detects anything electronics. Yeah, I
(17:40):
take my phone to it and I start doing stuff
on my phone. You see how it lights up any
any little EMF. So anyways, I took this and I
traced out a person a shape of a person, and
even though there's nobody, we could not see anyone there. Wow,
it went all the way up and lit all the
way up, which is pretty hot actually for that little device,
(18:01):
and did not stop lighting up. And so I did
it again in about two hours later. There wasn't any
It didn't light up at all. So I went to
the floor. I always say, making the sign of cross.
You go to the floor, you go to the ceiling,
you go left, you go right. You know, I'm sure
you check for electronic electrical surges and stuff every once
in a while, and so you're you know, looking for
(18:22):
high emf or high electricity locations, maybe where a wall
isn't you know, basically the wires not shielded properly and
stuff like that. So do you believe that?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Do you believe that also just by removing them from
that location where they spent their well, I mean they
were already dead, but where they were last before they
put underground for they cremated, that that to get also
(18:56):
bring up some sort of energy out of those coffins.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
They could have. Yeah, I mean we went into the
only funeral home I've ever investigated. We went there and
it was an active funeral home and it was the
same people that actually went on ghost tour with me.
They it took place called Black Star King and we
witnessed the Bigfoot. All of us witnessed a bigfoot for
our first time.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
So they were all excited, and so they set up
this funeral home. I guess they knew the owner or something,
and essentially, oh, yeah, I good money, and we're going
to investigate this funeral home. And the people at the
funeral home were actually kind of excited about it. They
wanted to know if there was any evidence caught. And
we caught a lot of what are called EVPs where
you court audio with an audio recorder and you ask
(19:42):
questions and you leave a little bit of space like
fifteen twenty seconds in between in question like I might
ask what's your name? And then we give time for
a response and ask, you know, how long have you
been here? You know, are you okay? Stuff like that
to look for intelligent answers. And I think we got
(20:03):
a lot of stuff. And I think one of them
had a message for she had just died and somebody
they had gone into this room that they set aside
for the parent the people to grieve at after the funeral.
And so this young lady had a message for her family,
and I gave it to I actually flipped it and
(20:23):
emailed it to the owners so they could share it
with the family. But there was a patient, or not
a patient, but a I guess you'd call a person
that passed away still in a he was still being processed,
let's just say. And so he was in a not
in a coffin, but he was in a foam casket,
(20:44):
if you will, with a bunch of ice around him.
And he had just been dropped off I guess that day,
and he died on the operating table and they were
basically going after this surgeon for malpractice. I guess he
accidentally been with me. My allergies are going crazy with
all this rain out, but I guess he had accidentally
(21:06):
clipped an artery and we had no idea. And the
guy that was kind of watching us do our investigation
representing the fuel home came in and because that k
T I said it down there, I wasn't even thinking
about what it was and it lights all the way up.
I'm like, okay, so what's going on. This is before
we had ghost box and spirit box and all that stuff,
(21:28):
and so we asked him to light that up for
guests and leave it in one light for no the
KTU to device I just showed you, and it lit
all the way up and would stayed to lit up
for I don't know forever, which seemed like weird. So
we were I took another one. I'm looking around trying
to find out where that you know, energy is coming from,
and nowhere, I mean he was like you were talking about.
(21:50):
He was up on one of those racks that they
put him on that can go up and down, and
uh so we're looking for any source of energy and
it's laid up it for about thirty seconds, which is
totally unusual. And he was upset. He was very upset.
He was only in his thirties and he was really
mad that he had passed away so early. And I
(22:13):
wasn't ready to move on, and so we had a
full on conversation with him, but we unfortunately disturbed him,
which we didn't mean to do. We were trying to
be as respectful as possible and uh, you know, not
just that's what happened. But that wasn't in Texas. I
was out in California.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Do you believe that properties can be cursed?
Speaker 1 (22:35):
I think people can put an energy on a location.
I'm not sure about curse, but I definitely believe that,
you know, somebody can can leave an imprint, a bad
imprint on a location for sure.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Let me give you a quick story about what I encountered.
My wife and I we bought a property had three
houses on it. Uh huh, and they were identical houses.
You know, could he cutter? That the one on each
en were occupied and the one in the medal it
needed work? Okay? Uh so that the guy on the
left and the gown the right I hired him to
(23:10):
work for me. One was cutting grass and one was
just going around doing work. And anyway, not long after
we bought the property, maybe three four months, the guy
on the right was murdered in the front yard. Jesus, yep, murdered.
(23:31):
They did never did not know. He was hit in
the head, forehead with a hammer and in the front
front yard. Yeah, and he laid there and he went
to the hospital. He went to the hospital, of course,
you know the ending. And then about eight months later,
the guy on the left, he was working for me,
(23:52):
he was I think he was forty five. Anyway, he
had he started hurting real bad, and he went to
the hospital. In the hospital told him, you know what,
you've got cancer so bad. You've only got six weeks. Jesus,
he was gone three right. Well, he had his girlfriend
(24:13):
living with him, and the girlfriend had a son, and
so her and her son were going to take over
the penguins on the house the rent. So the son
was like twenty one years old. Well, he dies of
an overdose for fentanol in the middle of the house,
the middle house. He was used in the middle house
(24:37):
as a place to go do his drugs, and he
was a great kid. I mean he would have been
if he'd had a better growing upbringing, he would have
been a great kid. But anyway, he killed him. And
then then the mom who was his mom and was
left in that house by herself, and she had a
stroke and she had to be She laid in the
(25:00):
bathtub for hours before someone found her. Of course, by
that time she had irreversible damage. She went into a
nursing home. We went to see her a few times,
and she passed away in the nursing home because of
the damage her body had taken from the stroke. So,
(25:20):
you know, here we got what we got one two,
We got four people so far, and I and my
wife says, you need to get rid of that place.
So I said, okay, I put it up for sale,
and five days later I had to take her and
he was an investor, you know, wanting to have some
more rentals. So he said, well, why are you getting
(25:41):
rid of it? So I just told him the truth.
He said, I don't believe. I don't believe in that
hocus pocus. Well, and also the guy that I bought
it from he died not long after about it. So
so here we got you know, five people. So I
told him. He said, oh, I don't believe in that
hocus pocus. I said good, and we signed a contract.
A month later he had a stroke and he was
(26:05):
going to fix the place up and make three rentals.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Out of it.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Guess what. That was probably six years ago, and the
properties are still empty. No one's ever he's net. He
did not complete one bit of work on those properties.
And you drive by there to day, they're over grown,
they're falling in and I'm glad I got rid of it.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
I'm glad.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
I'm glad before that for whatever it was, got in
touch with me, you know. But there was one thing
that was kind of strange on that I never did
figure out what it was. But one of the guys
that worked for me there, he was doing some work
upon of the house and he came across this hole
(26:51):
in the ground and it was probably an old well
that's what I'm thinking. But we try to shine a
flo as slight in there, and we could not see
the bottle, we could not see the bot. Yeah, so
I you know, I had him taken board put uh
boarded up so nothing can fall in there, like cats, dogs,
(27:15):
animals or people, and uh you know, but that was
the strangest thing in the world that I I mean,
I never had that happen again. And we've had owned
houses up and down for all of our lives and
never had that happen. And once again, we didn't know
any backstory, you know, what was the backstory and something.
(27:38):
You know, do you think that someone might have been
any occult, might have been doing something that was demonic,
that may have left an imprint there, or may have
left something behind.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
It could be it could be any burial ground, It
could be a lot of things. You know, maybe something
bad happened there, you know, they could have done. I know,
one location we went to up in where was it, Minnesota,
it was demonically infested. I mean it was just like
(28:13):
there was demons everywhere. And we cleansed that house and
cleansed the house and cleansed the house. We ended up
staying there three days before we came back. Wow. And
I kept having visions of an altar and human sacrifices
and stuff like that. So that was I was like, Okay,
and there's some kind of knife that has some kind
(28:33):
of energy to it, and some tribe had just you know,
sacrificed people there, and so they didn't like people on
their land, and so all kinds of bad things were happening,
Like you were talking about, people are getting sick in
the house and nightmares and all kinds of things. We
call it an apparition in that house and other things.
(28:54):
That was just it was one of those locations where
somebody just built in the wrong place. May mean I
grew up in a house where it was in the
merry ground and they were supposed to move the bodies
and religiously move the bodies the Indians were, and they
just built on top of the mountains. And so as
(29:14):
a kid, I grew up with with hauntings and all
kinds of paranormal activities. There's an Indian there that didn't
like me.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
So oh no.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Anyway, so we are getting close to me out of time.
We have about ten more minutes. Do you have another
story you want to share?
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Absolutely, absolutely, I've got wait. I received a property to
go to Cartersville, Georgia to her house. It was completely empty,
no mailbox, cleaned up, looked nice. I went to pick
up my help and there was a guy across the street.
He was I don't know, he was probably in his
sixties at that time, and he always wanted to go
(29:51):
with It's just to hang out, right, He had nothing
to do, so yeah, come on. But he suffered from
schizophrenia and he had medicine, but it took care of
all of his symptoms except for his allusive hallucinations. He
could still see and he could still hear. Right, So
we got there. He had a hard condition. The power
was on. I put him inside the house in a
(30:13):
launch chair and I turned the AC on and I said,
you stay in here. And but what I used to do.
He would get in the back of the van and
he would be talking to someone in the back of
the van, and occasionally I would say, Gerald, are you
talking to me? And he would say yes or no
because I didn't know, and then he would tell me
who he is talking to. So we completed our work.
(30:38):
I went in the house to get him. He was
talking to somebody. When I walked in the door, I said, Jerald,
are you talking to me? He said no, he gave
me a name. Okay, uh, you know he did that
all the time, so I didn't think anything of it.
But I got back home that night and I went
to my computer to do what I always did invoice.
And I'm setting and I pull up the information on
(30:58):
his house and I always tells me who the last
mortgage was. And I looked and that was the name.
The last mortgager's name was the name Gerald gave me.
Oh wow, right, And then I thought, well, okay, that
might be the coincidence. And next time I saw Gerald,
I said, Gerald, have you do you ever talk to
that person that you were talking to in Cartersville? He said, no, Phil,
(31:22):
that guy lives there. Wow, And I was like, WHOA. So,
I mean, is it possible that people with schizophrenias sometimes
they're not they're seeing a spirit?
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (31:34):
I mean I understand that they are seeing things that
aren't pair they have death to do with spirits. But
is it possible the cause of their condition that they
can possibly see spirits?
Speaker 1 (31:46):
I believe so. I mean, if you ever watch homeless
people you see sitting walking down the road or just
sitting there just talking to somebody that's not there. Oh yeah,
and they I believe that they're talking to you know,
maybe somebody. No, but it could be a ghost, or
it could be an angel, it could be you know,
(32:07):
something else bad who.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Oh, yeah, you don't know. What what they've conjured up.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Some people, you know, unfortunately, get involved with things that
they shouldn't get involved with, like drugs or alcohol or whatever.
And I believe that sometimes people are influenced into that
by unseen forces. And I don't want to call them
what they are, but that you know, our manipulated in
the wrong way.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
We'll just say, well, they could open themselves up to
rings that you can't can't wash off.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Right exactly. I mean a lot of the people that
are homeless are people that own business owners They've done
well for themselves and then yeah, that thing happens and
they lose everything. So you know, it's it's sad. But
I mean then they're on the on the on the
out on the streets and they're looking for, you know,
(32:55):
some way to get back into, you know, back up
in society, and they just never do.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Would you look at what they live in and you think,
good night, I wouldn't want to spend ten minutes in
there during the day, much less ten hours at night.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Oh yeah, the locations. I've been through thousands of places
and we've been in places where homeless have lived and
it's it's sad. I mean, old the King. But you've
seen stuff like that too.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Oh yeah, yeah, Old the.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
King buildings that you know, unfortunately smells of feces and mold,
mold and who knows what else, and it just makes
them sick. And you know, that kind of stuff could
be making them mentally ill as well. But I mean,
it's just sad that those people have gotten into those
situations and there's you know, on their way back.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
There is no doubt that they're encountering spirits in those houses,
and you know they might because of their mental condition,
that probably keeps them from just jumping out the window, yeah,
in fear. So they have conversations with these spirits and
(34:07):
that may give them some sort of you know, uh comfort,
right or something like that, because, uh, you would have to,
I think you would have to have some sort of
uh sensitivity to that kind of stuff when you're when
you're when you're there, kind of like you I guarantee
you you have a built in K two meter inside
(34:29):
your body. Yeah, you can walk.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Into a property. But yeah, I grew up. When I
grew up, I live with that stuff. So you know,
my parents never they didn't believe in it, but they
never really told me it wasn't real either, so you know,
I wasn't told though, you're just being silly, be quiet.
They listen to my stories, you know, and I was
talking about.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
It, but well, for me, it was unspoken pretty much,
you know. You know, it was back when I was
a kid. Uh, those kind of things would get you
locked down.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Right right, I know, late seventies, early eighties, and we're
kind of beyond that point at that point in time.
But I you know, my parents did take me to
see doctors from time to time just to make sure
I wasn't you know, losing my mind. But yeah, I
think that's what happens to a lot of people these days.
They oh, the doctors go, yeah, you're you're experiencing this
and then and the thing, let me give you some pills
for that. And you know, people just don't realize that
(35:24):
they're more open than they think they are to the paranormal,
and they're you know, they're experiencing things. And I think
the paranormal right now is this is the craziest I've
ever seen it. I mean, I've never seen it so
active in my life. It usually goes in cycles. It
goes up and then goes down, then up and down.
It's quiet for a while and then it gets, you know, active,
(35:46):
and then it gets quiet. But no, it's just been up, up,
up up, more and more activity, more bigfoot reports, more
it goes, and hauntings, more dog man's sightings or werewolfs
or whatever you want to call them. All kinds of
stuff is going on right now. I mean, every thing
out there is being being seen, and demons, angels, all
(36:09):
kinds of stuff is going on.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
So the stuff behind you on the shelf, is that
the stuff that you've taken from houses.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Some of it some of I picked up at other stores.
Like the dolls. I don't think they'd be safe in
a little kid's house. So especially the one right here, uh,
right here. If you if she didn't have her hat on,
and you can see her closely, it looks like our
eyes follow you around. Wow, one of them is very mischievous.
(36:37):
One of the little girls that is attached to one
of them. Room's house. I don't mind. I have set
rules that they can they can roam around the house.
They're supposed to stay in office. Raggety Andy back there.
He looks like he has sometimes he looks like has
a face like a little boy's face like pops out
and you can see his head like move like a
normal human. It's kind of calm. But I picked those
(36:57):
up from different places because I just don't want people to,
you know, little kids, to get a hold of them.
And you know, like we were talking about, have a
friend if you will. None of them are you know,
the D word or anything dangerous or mean, but they do.
They are mischievous. Some of them that are attached. You
can't see them all. I'll tilt this up so you
(37:18):
can see the other ones. I get this to tilt
up a little bit. You see the other ones up here.
Oh yeah, shelf up there, I'll except for him in
the corner, the doll. But yeah, and then a lot
of stuff on the shelf over there has attachments as well.
So you know, we got a lot of the things
(37:39):
that I collect get locked up. I have something locked
in the closet next to me that I was wearing
an investigation was it was a type of cross and
that got a incubus attached to it. And so that
now is sitting in holy water sea salt, blessed oil
and a bunch of other stuff, and it's surrounded by
(38:00):
different types of stones. I usually have them at my desk,
but anyways, it just keeps them from you know, getting away,
getting being getting out and hurting anyone because that one
is pretty nasty. Nope, you're not going anywhere.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
You're braver than I am.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Well, I kind of got thrown into this, if you will.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Yeah, anyway, I like a good, good haunt, but I
don't want to take anything home with me.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Right exactly. All Right, Well, Phil, we're running out of time,
so we're gonna have to do this, but we'll definitely
have you back because I know you said you have
a bunch of stories, so i'd love to It's been
a pleasure to have you on and thank you so
much for joining us today and we will catch you
on the next one.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
You're welcome.
Hey guys, welcome back to another Deep Woods Paranormal podcast.
My name is Matt Harvey. I am the founder and
the lead investigator with deep Woods Paranormal. I have Phil
on with me today. He's from Tennessee. He's one of
our listeners and he has quite a few stories to tell.
We're gonna let him get into it. But he's got
all kinds of cool paranormal stories he's gonna share with us. So,
without further ado, Phil, welcome onto the podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Oh thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Yeah, you're welcome. Why don't you tell us a little
bit about yourself, what you do and all that stuff.
I'm gonna fix the camera wall.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
We do that.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
There we go.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Well. For the past twenty years, I've been self employed
as a property manager, owning and operating a management company
property management company, and during that time we worked on
over forty seven hundred properties. All of these properties were
empty in different stages of decay, some new, some falling apart.
(01:12):
But you, as you can imagine, you go into forty
seven hundred houses, you're going to occasionally come across something
you can't explain, right, And the areas that we've been
into are northwest Georgia, south East Tennessee, and parts of
North Carolina and some Alabama here and there. But say
(01:36):
you remember the picture I sent you of the with
the photo of the face and the window.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
I think I do. Yeah, I get tons and tons
of photos from people.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
So well, Illus, go ahead and give you the story
on that one.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
That was.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
A funeral home at one time. It was built back
in the turn of the century. And you know, like
most funeral home, it was our family ran. And it
was two story. The funeral home was on the main
floor and they lived on the second floor.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
And of course the basement was where with a body
prep embalming, and also they had an oven down there
for cremation. So I received and it was empty, of
course when I went there, and it had been empty
for at least thirty years. Because I remember the property.
(02:29):
I had driven past it many, many, many times, and
it was it's in Chattanooga, Tennessee. This was about five
years ago when we were at the property. Okay, And
so we get there and we arrived at the property,
we drill a lot that we entered the property and
we never we did not know what it was. We
did not know what it was until we got inside.
(02:51):
Fully furnished, Yeah yeah, wow, you know, fully furnished with
everything that you would expect to see in a first
four doing our home, and uh, you know it automatically,
you just get to creep creep vibe, you know. Yeah,
you know, the uh, the built in creeper just sets
(03:13):
in pretty fast. And so we we go in there.
We all have a job to do. You know. I've
got two guys with me. We all go in separate
directions and we we when we enter a property like that,
we always lock the door on our way in so
we don't have any homeless people slipping in behind us
and hiding out in the property or coming in there
(03:34):
trying to rob us. So every everything was locked down,
no power, no water, We're using headlamps, and we go
in there and we do everything that we do and
on a first time visit and at the end of
that visit, and of course we're all moving around, so
if anything happened during that time, we would never know
it because we're making too much noise and we're talking,
(03:56):
you know, radios planning sometimes and there's a busy street
out front. But anyway, we finished and I put this,
We installed an accordion security door on the front door
to keep homeless people from sleeping underneath that recessed area.
And then I put this metal plaque on it that
(04:18):
I put on every property we go to that says
in case of emergency, and my name and my phone
number right and about oh, I guess it was probably
seven eight days later, I get a phone call from
the Chattanooga Police Department saying that they needed me to
come down to this property because there was also a
(04:39):
bus stop there too. It's right on the sidewalk. And
then you got the street, you got a bus stop.
That's a bus stop. Patron heard somebody banging on the
door asking to get out.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Oh no, yeah, so you know the year this is going?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Oh yeah, I said.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Was.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
My first thought was how in the world did someone
slip past us? And then the second thought was, well,
if you've been in there for seven or eight days,
there's no water, there's no food. So I asked the deck,
I said, did you find on the phone that you
find any way that they could have gotten in their
broken window? Of course, with the windows, you'd have to
(05:18):
have a ladder to get up there. And how many
homeless people carry a ladder and you know, yeah, and
you know it's so okay, stranger things have happened. So
I saddle up, rest up, go down there, and I
get there and there's by the time I get there,
there's three city police officers and there's one county and
(05:40):
they're all you know, they have nothing else to do.
It's two o'clock in the morning. You know, they might
want a little, you know, extra security. So I get
out and I go up and the officer says, I said,
he said, there's been someone beating on this door since
we've been here, not consistently, but every on occasion they're
(06:01):
rapping on the door. And of course this door is
about two inches thick. It's made out of mahogany. It's
eight feet tall, it's six feet wide. I mean, it's
it's it's big, it's massive. So in order to make really,
in order to make it sound like that, you'd have
to have some kind of a hammer, rubber mallet, metal hammer.
(06:26):
So okay, So I opened the door and he makes
me stay back because they want to go in there
and they want to clear the building. So, uh, four
officers go in. Two officers guard the front door. They
go in and they're there for a while and they
come back downstairs. They've been upstairs, they've been downstairs. They
(06:48):
come back and they can't They didn't find anybody. They
found nothing, Wow, absolutely nothing. And then I asked him what.
I said, Well, did you in the in the basement,
did you look and see check and see if there
was any kind of large drain pipe or a manhole
(07:09):
or something. And they said nope. They looked in every closet,
every cabinet looking for any way to get in or
get out of that property, and they couldn't find it.
Could not find it.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
And then okay, you know, everybody was scratching her head,
and all the officers we all heard it. We all
heard it. So I locked it back up, but you know,
closed a security door. And five days later, got another
phone call. Somebody's in the building. Somebody at the bus
(07:44):
stop said there's someone beating on the door. The same
officer was responded because that's that's where he works at.
That's just part of town. And he called me. He said, Phil,
there's there's somebody in here again. Okay, let's do it again.
So I dress, I go down there, and sure enough,
(08:06):
we opened the door and there was nothing there, absolutely nothing.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
And then about two weeks after that, the property was
sold to another investor and uh we never went back.
But uh and and even to this day, five years later,
the property is still empty. That's still empty, still empty.
And uh, it would make honestly, it would make the
(08:34):
great uh place to live if you could handle it right.
You know, it's a beautiful property. And you know, also, Matt,
with with what we come across, we never we never
had a backstore. We never knew of anything horrible or
(08:54):
you know, we have nothing we have We didn't know
anything about the property.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
We made it.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
And you're going in cold, yeah, yeah, and you know
and what that does? It does It doesn't pre program
you to expect a certain outcome because someone's told you
that someone died in the living room. You know, violence.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
History that you can what you know about. No, I
think so if as a funeral home, you might have
a little bit of a different opinion before you go in,
you know.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Oh yeah, And then Uh, I was thinking about this
story back way back when I first reached out to you. Uh,
and I went back and I started going through some
of the photos that I had taken of that property,
and I just thought, well, you know what, I'm going
to zoom in on these windows. And sure enough, I
(09:43):
zoomed in on that one window and there was that face.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
And the face was of a man with a handlebar mustache,
which is what you would have had, you know, thirty,
you know, back in the fifties or forties. Uh, it
looks like there's a black code on and maybe a
piece of a hat.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
And it was like wow, you know, because you know
when when I would do these do these pride, do
these jobs like that. I was there to do a
job and get paid. You know. I wasn't there to
do a paranormal research or a ghost time or anything
like that. I was just there to do a job
and get paid. And I have another funeral home story.
(10:29):
This happened probably about eight years ago, and this one
was in an area called Sequatchee Valley, which is probably
forty miles north of Chattanooga. And this was a house
that had been used as a funeral home. Now, once
again we did not know this. We just got a
(10:51):
work order to go there and take care of it
and start managing it. So we get there, it's a
large house got a ground front porch, two story, it's
probably six thousand square feet. We get there, yes, it's
a large, monster white. We get there and we notice
that there's there's some kind of a little parking lot
(11:12):
out bikes. Okay, you know they might have just done
that because they needed a lot of car But anyway,
we go on the property and we're looking around. There's
no furniture and it's empty. And then we go downstairs
and we find everything that you would need that to
do body prep. Wow, yep, I mean there's all these
(11:34):
stainless steel tools hanging on the wall. There's a stainless
steel flat table there with a drain under it, and
there's a lot of small rooms down there. So we
start going room to room and we come across this
room and it's closed and it's locked. It's got a
padlock on it. So okay, we get boat cutters and
(11:57):
we cut it loose. We open the door, shine our
lights in there, because there is absolutely no natural light
coming into this space, you know, no power, and that
kind of darkness can be claustrophobic, you know, does it
just like moves in on you? And when we open
(12:19):
that door, uh, it swallows up a lot of your light.
But anyway, we opened the door, we shine our headlamp
in there, and there were two coffins in there. Two coffins, yeah,
and they were set up on these roll around uh
carts that you see them use in the in funerals.
(12:40):
You know, they're they're accordion and they stretch out and
they were sitting on these roll around carts. Okay, it's
a funeral home, they would have coffins. And so I
called the I call the the lender on that, and
the investor say, hey, this was a funeral home and
there's two coffins in the in the basement. What do
(13:01):
you want me to do with them? He said, well
throw them away? So I'm thinking, when I go to
the landfill start sliding coffins off, what's going to happen
to me? You know, you know, you know? And uh,
uh we open them up, and you know what, check
make sure these things are empty. We may need to
call the sheriff to prize. Yeah, and uh so uh
(13:24):
we checked them they were empty and uh one of
the guys that worked with me, he said, Phil, what's
you going to do with those profits? Where we're going
to throw them away. Uh, we're going to landfilm because
that's what the investor has told me to do. He said, well, hey, uh,
I worked at this uh this massive uh spook House,
Halloween spook House and Chattanooga every year for one month
(13:48):
and it's it's it's large. He said. I bet uh
my boss over there would love to have him. I said,
we'll pull him up and tell them if he can
come get them today, they're his. Well, he comes and
gets them and they had to be carried upstairs because
the elevator was gone. So he's took him to his place.
He took some stuff he found down there. Anyway, he
(14:11):
put them in his his his spook house. And he
called me like two weeks after this he had opened
it and said, hey, do you know any backstories or
anything about these coffins? I said no, he said, I
said no. He said, well, since I brought them in. Uh,
I've got a lot of my actors who won't go
(14:34):
into certain parts of this place by themselves. And I
just figured out that it was when you brought we
got these coffins and put them in here.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
And he's and you know, he's a believer in the
paranormal like me. So he just thought, well, you know
it must be something to do with the coffins. I said, well,
you know, we don't have a backstory. So we were
I went back to the property. We were there working
on it again, doing some work, and all of a sudden,
this this elderly man was walking down road sidewalk and
he comes up and says, uh, I get break a
(15:05):
conversation with him, and he tells me that he used
to work there. I said wow. He said yeah, I
was one of the directors here and asked I told
him about the coffins and they said, what was those
coffins for? They just left over inventory or something. He said, no,
those two coffins were used when people were cremated. What
(15:28):
they what they would do is they would have a
regular service and they would put the body in the
coffin that have a regular Christian service or whatever. Then
after the service, they would close it, take it down
the elevator, remove them from the body, and then they
would they would be then they would be carted off
(15:49):
to a cremation location. And he said those coffins probably
had at least one hundred and fifty two hundred people
used it, you know, so they saw a lot of use.
They didn't get buried, but so I don't know, would
you think that some of that residual could hang on
(16:12):
to those coffins.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
And yeah, and even you know, even you know, the
intelligence haunts can do it too. Sometimes when an energy's
left on an item or a location or whatever. Let's
say it was a massive murder somewhere, that energy can
get trapped there, and if enough people put their energy
(16:33):
back into it, they come in and like investigate it
or or come in and leave a memorial or whatever.
And maybe whoever lost that person come in and they
you know, memorialize those people or that person. That can
also draw energy back to that location too. So moving
those things sometimes can draw it, you know, activity when
(16:57):
you you know, let's say you come in and remodel it,
or last how we had, we remodeled it, and as
soon as we started remodeling, all kinds of weird paranormal
stuff happened. Footsteps, apparitions, you know, dogs were freaking out
at just barking. You know. My lab would literally come
into the kitchen and act like there was somebody there
(17:18):
and bark our way back out the door. Into the
mudroom and wouldn't come out. And you know that was
just she's no longer with us, but I think she
could see spirits. And I could take a what's called
the K two device where that coker it is to
take one of these. And these are just a very
simple EMF detector. So I'll just let it up. That's
what it does when it detects anything electronics. Yeah, I
(17:40):
take my phone to it and I start doing stuff
on my phone. You see how it lights up any
any little EMF. So anyways, I took this and I
traced out a person a shape of a person, and
even though there's nobody, we could not see anyone there. Wow,
it went all the way up and lit all the
way up, which is pretty hot actually for that little device,
(18:01):
and did not stop lighting up. And so I did
it again in about two hours later. There wasn't any
It didn't light up at all. So I went to
the floor. I always say, making the sign of cross.
You go to the floor, you go to the ceiling,
you go left, you go right. You know, I'm sure
you check for electronic electrical surges and stuff every once
in a while, and so you're you know, looking for
(18:22):
high emf or high electricity locations, maybe where a wall
isn't you know, basically the wires not shielded properly and
stuff like that. So do you believe that?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Do you believe that also just by removing them from
that location where they spent their well, I mean they
were already dead, but where they were last before they
put underground for they cremated, that that to get also
(18:56):
bring up some sort of energy out of those coffins.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
They could have. Yeah, I mean we went into the
only funeral home I've ever investigated. We went there and
it was an active funeral home and it was the
same people that actually went on ghost tour with me.
They it took place called Black Star King and we
witnessed the Bigfoot. All of us witnessed a bigfoot for
our first time.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
So they were all excited, and so they set up
this funeral home. I guess they knew the owner or something,
and essentially, oh, yeah, I good money, and we're going
to investigate this funeral home. And the people at the
funeral home were actually kind of excited about it. They
wanted to know if there was any evidence caught. And
we caught a lot of what are called EVPs where
you court audio with an audio recorder and you ask
(19:42):
questions and you leave a little bit of space like
fifteen twenty seconds in between in question like I might
ask what's your name? And then we give time for
a response and ask, you know, how long have you
been here? You know, are you okay? Stuff like that
to look for intelligent answers. And I think we got
(20:03):
a lot of stuff. And I think one of them
had a message for she had just died and somebody
they had gone into this room that they set aside
for the parent the people to grieve at after the funeral.
And so this young lady had a message for her family,
and I gave it to I actually flipped it and
(20:23):
emailed it to the owners so they could share it
with the family. But there was a patient, or not
a patient, but a I guess you'd call a person
that passed away still in a he was still being processed,
let's just say. And so he was in a not
in a coffin, but he was in a foam casket,
(20:44):
if you will, with a bunch of ice around him.
And he had just been dropped off I guess that day,
and he died on the operating table and they were
basically going after this surgeon for malpractice. I guess he
accidentally been with me. My allergies are going crazy with
all this rain out, but I guess he had accidentally
(21:06):
clipped an artery and we had no idea. And the
guy that was kind of watching us do our investigation
representing the fuel home came in and because that k
T I said it down there, I wasn't even thinking
about what it was and it lights all the way up.
I'm like, okay, so what's going on. This is before
we had ghost box and spirit box and all that stuff,
(21:28):
and so we asked him to light that up for
guests and leave it in one light for no the
KTU to device I just showed you, and it lit
all the way up and would stayed to lit up
for I don't know forever, which seemed like weird. So
we were I took another one. I'm looking around trying
to find out where that you know, energy is coming from,
and nowhere, I mean he was like you were talking about.
(21:50):
He was up on one of those racks that they
put him on that can go up and down, and
uh so we're looking for any source of energy and
it's laid up it for about thirty seconds, which is
totally unusual. And he was upset. He was very upset.
He was only in his thirties and he was really
mad that he had passed away so early. And I
(22:13):
wasn't ready to move on, and so we had a
full on conversation with him, but we unfortunately disturbed him,
which we didn't mean to do. We were trying to
be as respectful as possible and uh, you know, not
just that's what happened. But that wasn't in Texas. I
was out in California.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Do you believe that properties can be cursed?
Speaker 1 (22:35):
I think people can put an energy on a location.
I'm not sure about curse, but I definitely believe that,
you know, somebody can can leave an imprint, a bad
imprint on a location for sure.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Let me give you a quick story about what I encountered.
My wife and I we bought a property had three
houses on it. Uh huh, and they were identical houses.
You know, could he cutter? That the one on each
en were occupied and the one in the medal it
needed work? Okay? Uh so that the guy on the
left and the gown the right I hired him to
(23:10):
work for me. One was cutting grass and one was
just going around doing work. And anyway, not long after
we bought the property, maybe three four months, the guy
on the right was murdered in the front yard. Jesus, yep, murdered.
(23:31):
They did never did not know. He was hit in
the head, forehead with a hammer and in the front
front yard. Yeah, and he laid there and he went
to the hospital. He went to the hospital, of course,
you know the ending. And then about eight months later,
the guy on the left, he was working for me,
(23:52):
he was I think he was forty five. Anyway, he
had he started hurting real bad, and he went to
the hospital. In the hospital told him, you know what,
you've got cancer so bad. You've only got six weeks. Jesus,
he was gone three right. Well, he had his girlfriend
(24:13):
living with him, and the girlfriend had a son, and
so her and her son were going to take over
the penguins on the house the rent. So the son
was like twenty one years old. Well, he dies of
an overdose for fentanol in the middle of the house,
the middle house. He was used in the middle house
(24:37):
as a place to go do his drugs, and he
was a great kid. I mean he would have been
if he'd had a better growing upbringing, he would have
been a great kid. But anyway, he killed him. And
then then the mom who was his mom and was
left in that house by herself, and she had a
stroke and she had to be She laid in the
(25:00):
bathtub for hours before someone found her. Of course, by
that time she had irreversible damage. She went into a
nursing home. We went to see her a few times,
and she passed away in the nursing home because of
the damage her body had taken from the stroke. So,
(25:20):
you know, here we got what we got one two,
We got four people so far, and I and my
wife says, you need to get rid of that place.
So I said, okay, I put it up for sale,
and five days later I had to take her and
he was an investor, you know, wanting to have some
more rentals. So he said, well, why are you getting
(25:41):
rid of it? So I just told him the truth.
He said, I don't believe. I don't believe in that
hocus pocus. Well, and also the guy that I bought
it from he died not long after about it. So
so here we got you know, five people. So I
told him. He said, oh, I don't believe in that
hocus pocus. I said good, and we signed a contract.
A month later he had a stroke and he was
(26:05):
going to fix the place up and make three rentals.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Out of it.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Guess what. That was probably six years ago, and the
properties are still empty. No one's ever he's net. He
did not complete one bit of work on those properties.
And you drive by there to day, they're over grown,
they're falling in and I'm glad I got rid of it.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
I'm glad.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
I'm glad before that for whatever it was, got in
touch with me, you know. But there was one thing
that was kind of strange on that I never did
figure out what it was. But one of the guys
that worked for me there, he was doing some work
upon of the house and he came across this hole
(26:51):
in the ground and it was probably an old well
that's what I'm thinking. But we try to shine a
flo as slight in there, and we could not see
the bottle, we could not see the bot. Yeah, so
I you know, I had him taken board put uh
boarded up so nothing can fall in there, like cats, dogs,
(27:15):
animals or people, and uh you know, but that was
the strangest thing in the world that I I mean,
I never had that happen again. And we've had owned
houses up and down for all of our lives and
never had that happen. And once again, we didn't know
any backstory, you know, what was the backstory and something.
(27:38):
You know, do you think that someone might have been
any occult, might have been doing something that was demonic,
that may have left an imprint there, or may have
left something behind.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
It could be it could be any burial ground, It
could be a lot of things. You know, maybe something
bad happened there, you know, they could have done. I know,
one location we went to up in where was it, Minnesota,
it was demonically infested. I mean it was just like
(28:13):
there was demons everywhere. And we cleansed that house and
cleansed the house and cleansed the house. We ended up
staying there three days before we came back. Wow. And
I kept having visions of an altar and human sacrifices
and stuff like that. So that was I was like, Okay,
and there's some kind of knife that has some kind
(28:33):
of energy to it, and some tribe had just you know,
sacrificed people there, and so they didn't like people on
their land, and so all kinds of bad things were happening,
Like you were talking about, people are getting sick in
the house and nightmares and all kinds of things. We
call it an apparition in that house and other things.
(28:54):
That was just it was one of those locations where
somebody just built in the wrong place. May mean I
grew up in a house where it was in the
merry ground and they were supposed to move the bodies
and religiously move the bodies the Indians were, and they
just built on top of the mountains. And so as
(29:14):
a kid, I grew up with with hauntings and all
kinds of paranormal activities. There's an Indian there that didn't
like me.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
So oh no.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Anyway, so we are getting close to me out of time.
We have about ten more minutes. Do you have another
story you want to share?
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Absolutely, absolutely, I've got wait. I received a property to
go to Cartersville, Georgia to her house. It was completely empty,
no mailbox, cleaned up, looked nice. I went to pick
up my help and there was a guy across the street.
He was I don't know, he was probably in his
sixties at that time, and he always wanted to go
(29:51):
with It's just to hang out, right, He had nothing
to do, so yeah, come on. But he suffered from
schizophrenia and he had medicine, but it took care of
all of his symptoms except for his allusive hallucinations. He
could still see and he could still hear. Right, So
we got there. He had a hard condition. The power
was on. I put him inside the house in a
(30:13):
launch chair and I turned the AC on and I said,
you stay in here. And but what I used to do.
He would get in the back of the van and
he would be talking to someone in the back of
the van, and occasionally I would say, Gerald, are you
talking to me? And he would say yes or no
because I didn't know, and then he would tell me
who he is talking to. So we completed our work.
(30:38):
I went in the house to get him. He was
talking to somebody. When I walked in the door, I said, Jerald,
are you talking to me? He said no, he gave
me a name. Okay, uh, you know he did that
all the time, so I didn't think anything of it.
But I got back home that night and I went
to my computer to do what I always did invoice.
And I'm setting and I pull up the information on
(30:58):
his house and I always tells me who the last
mortgage was. And I looked and that was the name.
The last mortgager's name was the name Gerald gave me.
Oh wow, right, And then I thought, well, okay, that
might be the coincidence. And next time I saw Gerald,
I said, Gerald, have you do you ever talk to
that person that you were talking to in Cartersville? He said, no, Phil,
(31:22):
that guy lives there. Wow, And I was like, WHOA. So,
I mean, is it possible that people with schizophrenias sometimes
they're not they're seeing a spirit?
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (31:34):
I mean I understand that they are seeing things that
aren't pair they have death to do with spirits. But
is it possible the cause of their condition that they
can possibly see spirits?
Speaker 1 (31:46):
I believe so. I mean, if you ever watch homeless
people you see sitting walking down the road or just
sitting there just talking to somebody that's not there. Oh yeah,
and they I believe that they're talking to you know,
maybe somebody. No, but it could be a ghost, or
it could be an angel, it could be you know,
(32:07):
something else bad who.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Oh, yeah, you don't know. What what they've conjured up.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Some people, you know, unfortunately, get involved with things that
they shouldn't get involved with, like drugs or alcohol or whatever.
And I believe that sometimes people are influenced into that
by unseen forces. And I don't want to call them
what they are, but that you know, our manipulated in
the wrong way.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
We'll just say, well, they could open themselves up to
rings that you can't can't wash off.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Right exactly. I mean a lot of the people that
are homeless are people that own business owners They've done
well for themselves and then yeah, that thing happens and
they lose everything. So you know, it's it's sad. But
I mean then they're on the on the on the
out on the streets and they're looking for, you know,
(32:55):
some way to get back into, you know, back up
in society, and they just never do.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Would you look at what they live in and you think,
good night, I wouldn't want to spend ten minutes in
there during the day, much less ten hours at night.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Oh yeah, the locations. I've been through thousands of places
and we've been in places where homeless have lived and
it's it's sad. I mean, old the King. But you've
seen stuff like that too.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Oh yeah, yeah, Old the.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
King buildings that you know, unfortunately smells of feces and mold,
mold and who knows what else, and it just makes
them sick. And you know, that kind of stuff could
be making them mentally ill as well. But I mean,
it's just sad that those people have gotten into those
situations and there's you know, on their way back.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
There is no doubt that they're encountering spirits in those houses,
and you know they might because of their mental condition,
that probably keeps them from just jumping out the window, yeah,
in fear. So they have conversations with these spirits and
(34:07):
that may give them some sort of you know, uh comfort,
right or something like that, because, uh, you would have to,
I think you would have to have some sort of
uh sensitivity to that kind of stuff when you're when
you're when you're there, kind of like you I guarantee
you you have a built in K two meter inside
(34:29):
your body. Yeah, you can walk.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Into a property. But yeah, I grew up. When I
grew up, I live with that stuff. So you know,
my parents never they didn't believe in it, but they
never really told me it wasn't real either, so you know,
I wasn't told though, you're just being silly, be quiet.
They listen to my stories, you know, and I was
talking about.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
It, but well, for me, it was unspoken pretty much,
you know. You know, it was back when I was
a kid. Uh, those kind of things would get you
locked down.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Right right, I know, late seventies, early eighties, and we're
kind of beyond that point at that point in time.
But I you know, my parents did take me to
see doctors from time to time just to make sure
I wasn't you know, losing my mind. But yeah, I
think that's what happens to a lot of people these days.
They oh, the doctors go, yeah, you're you're experiencing this
and then and the thing, let me give you some pills
for that. And you know, people just don't realize that
(35:24):
they're more open than they think they are to the paranormal,
and they're you know, they're experiencing things. And I think
the paranormal right now is this is the craziest I've
ever seen it. I mean, I've never seen it so
active in my life. It usually goes in cycles. It
goes up and then goes down, then up and down.
It's quiet for a while and then it gets, you know, active,
(35:46):
and then it gets quiet. But no, it's just been up, up,
up up, more and more activity, more bigfoot reports, more
it goes, and hauntings, more dog man's sightings or werewolfs
or whatever you want to call them. All kinds of
stuff is going on right now. I mean, every thing
out there is being being seen, and demons, angels, all
(36:09):
kinds of stuff is going on.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
So the stuff behind you on the shelf, is that
the stuff that you've taken from houses.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Some of it some of I picked up at other stores.
Like the dolls. I don't think they'd be safe in
a little kid's house. So especially the one right here, uh,
right here. If you if she didn't have her hat on,
and you can see her closely, it looks like our
eyes follow you around. Wow, one of them is very mischievous.
(36:37):
One of the little girls that is attached to one
of them. Room's house. I don't mind. I have set
rules that they can they can roam around the house.
They're supposed to stay in office. Raggety Andy back there.
He looks like he has sometimes he looks like has
a face like a little boy's face like pops out
and you can see his head like move like a
normal human. It's kind of calm. But I picked those
(36:57):
up from different places because I just don't want people to,
you know, little kids, to get a hold of them.
And you know, like we were talking about, have a
friend if you will. None of them are you know,
the D word or anything dangerous or mean, but they do.
They are mischievous. Some of them that are attached. You
can't see them all. I'll tilt this up so you
(37:18):
can see the other ones. I get this to tilt
up a little bit. You see the other ones up here.
Oh yeah, shelf up there, I'll except for him in
the corner, the doll. But yeah, and then a lot
of stuff on the shelf over there has attachments as well.
So you know, we got a lot of the things
(37:39):
that I collect get locked up. I have something locked
in the closet next to me that I was wearing
an investigation was it was a type of cross and
that got a incubus attached to it. And so that
now is sitting in holy water sea salt, blessed oil
and a bunch of other stuff, and it's surrounded by
(38:00):
different types of stones. I usually have them at my desk,
but anyways, it just keeps them from you know, getting away,
getting being getting out and hurting anyone because that one
is pretty nasty. Nope, you're not going anywhere.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
You're braver than I am.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Well, I kind of got thrown into this, if you will.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Yeah, anyway, I like a good, good haunt, but I
don't want to take anything home with me.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Right exactly. All Right, Well, Phil, we're running out of time,
so we're gonna have to do this, but we'll definitely
have you back because I know you said you have
a bunch of stories, so i'd love to It's been
a pleasure to have you on and thank you so
much for joining us today and we will catch you
on the next one.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
You're welcome.
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