The mystrious case of Laura. Alien abductions stories.

On this paranormal podcast we again have Laura back again who has been abducted many times by aliens and brought on board many different UFOS in her lifetime. She continues to share her scary stories of what the aliens did to her and what she experienced on board these strnage alien crafts. She contenues to talk about her expeiances before and after her alien abductions that continue to haunt her.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back to the Deep Wits Paranormal podcast. My name
is Matt Harvey. I am the founder and lead investigator
with Deep Wits Paranormal. I am also the host of
the Deep Wits Paranormal podcast. Today we have on a
friend of mine. She's been on many times. She's had
many alien encounters and UFO abductions and stuff like that.

(00:21):
She's told many stories. So if you haven't caught up
on Laura's stories, please go back and you know, into
the playlist and look for Laura's podcasts. Today she's gonna
continue on with her stories. She's gonna start with some
short stories and then she's gonna tell us about stuff
that happened out of side of her own house at

(00:42):
her sister's house. So with that, we're gonna bring Laura on. Hi, Laura,
how are you.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Hey, Matt. I'm doing good.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
So Laura is actually just joining us via phone because
we can't seem to get her on the regular podcast
for some reason. So this is gonna be an audio
only podcast. You only you seeing me, and you can
watch the fish swimmen behind me if you want. So, Okay,
go go ahead and get into your first story. Tell
us you know, kind of set this, set up the

(01:10):
scenes for us and what happened? What were you doing?
Where were you at?

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Well this, uh, I'm gonna start with my shorter story.
So this first one is about when I was in school.
So I was a child, and I don't think I
told you about this girl. Her name was Kathy. I
still remember her name to this day.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
But she was just strange to me.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
And uh, when uh in my class, I'd say, she's
I don't know if it was every class, every grade
I was in. She was always always seemed to be
sitting close by me, especially if we were in alphabetical order,

(02:02):
because her last name was Kay and mine's Emma. But
this this girl, I don't know. She just very She's
very strange to me. It's real tall, pale looking. She
never talked above a whisper, real real low, tiny, but
you couldn't even hear her talk real tight, real, Oh
my gosh, she rove everything. Nobody liked her in the class.

(02:23):
I didn't like to read her. But anyway, she told
me one day that she uh it was I don't
know she was. She said, she's watching me. She's like,
I'm thinking what she said this that the one I
don't look great? It was I was in she said, well,

(02:45):
I'm like she's been watching me through the years or something.
I got that effect and I was looking at her like,
what are you talking about. You're supposed to She's supposed
Every time I see this girl, if she sat around me,
she always had her eyes on me. And I was
very unnerved by her, and I'm like, why does she

(03:07):
keep Why is she staring at me? Time I look
at her, She's got her eyes on me, glued on me,
and I'm like, what is wrong with this girl?

Speaker 1 (03:15):
I don't I don't know, but you got a stalker. Huh,
you had a stalker.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
But this get this man. The one year when we
would go out and play play yard and play for
lunch or recess, she would always stand there like a
I don't know what you call it. She would just
stand there.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
I would I would watch her from a good distance.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
She's stand there and I'm looking at her, and I'm thinking,
is she scanning the school yard? This? This girl is weir,
a weirdo. And That's what I thought. I was like,
is she is she scanning the whole yard? What does
she doing? Because she Oh, my God. Then the one
day I went up to her and I said, I
was yelling at her, and I said, you are not human.

(04:04):
That's exactly what I said to her. I said you
are not human. I said. I don't know if I
called her an alien or what I called her. She was tall,
real tall, blond hair, blue eyes, pale as a like
a white crayon or maybe a light beige. I don't know,
but she's really tall, and she wouldn't She didn't stand
right either. Her her legs from under her knees to

(04:28):
her ankle would curve. In word, if you can imagine
what I'm like, how is she standing with her legs
like curved from the knees to the ankle.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
They would like be on like a I don't know,
you know what?

Speaker 2 (04:43):
You know what I'm saying this girl? One day, we
don't turn to tell her. I said you are not human.
I said you're an alien, or I said something you're
not from this planet, or I.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
Said something like that to her, And she.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
Said, no, I'm human, And I said, no, you're not.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
I said you were.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
You were just You're the strangest, ugliest girl I've ever
think I've ever seen in my Oh my god, I
couldn't stand this girl. But anyway, she'd give me the creeps,
and she would always be watching me in the classroom
and I'm like, what are you Why are you watching me?
She wouldn't tell me, and she would have this menacing
look on her face too, like she's mad, and her like,

(05:27):
I'm the only kid in the class you're watching? What?

Speaker 3 (05:29):
What are you watching me for? I'm like, this is
this is? This just creeps me out.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
It was.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
She's so strange. I'm sixty two and I still remember
this kid. But anyway, I don't know if she had
anything to do with anything. Who knows. She might, she
might not have. I don't know, But I don't know why.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
You kid.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Class almost every grade you're in, What would you think?

Speaker 1 (06:02):
Yeah, I mean I had a lot of the same classmates,
you know, from elementary school way through sixth grade, and
then we moved and then about half the class from
my seventh eighth, eighth year went to me went with
me to high school. So I had a lot of
the same friends about six years.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Yeah, after I graduated eighth grade, I didn't go to
the same high school she did. Thank god.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
I wouldn't want I.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Wouldn't want that, but yeah, anyway, I don't know. I
never got the truth out of her about why she
was watching me. Third old.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
Sounds like she had a crush on you.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Oh no, she no, wasn't that. No, not the way
she looked at me like she was always mad or
had this meme looked at her face and I'm like,
you know, what is your problem?

Speaker 1 (07:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (07:04):
I don't know anyway, Okay, fast forward to when I
lived with this man.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
His name was Douglas. He's not alive anymore.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
This was like thirty five years ago, and I met
him when I had to take a cab. He was
a cab driver. He had to take a cab for
my daughter's first doctor's appointment after she was born, so
she was for about three months old at the time.

(07:34):
And when I met him, he kept staring at me
in his cab and he gave me his phone number,
and I was, well, I don't I don't know if
asked me, I don't know what it was, but he
just gave me his number. And I was going to
throw his number away when I got out of his

(07:55):
cab because it really wasn't interested in.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
Men at that point.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
So I was going through some stuff with my daughter
and what happened with that whole situation. But anyway, I
kept his number and I ended up calling him, but
it was after a year. I let a year ago by.
I kept thinking about him. I don't know why, but
then I called him.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
He did he pick up? Did he pick up?

Speaker 2 (08:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah, he remembered me too.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
I was like, well, if you remember me because I
met you like a year ago.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
And he's like, oh, yeah, it was what happened to you?

Speaker 3 (08:36):
And I was like, I don't know if I wanted
to go out with him or not.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
I was debating it for a year.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
I was like should I.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
Should I should?

Speaker 1 (08:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
Anyway, I went.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
Out with him, and you know, we dated and all
that good stuff, and then I ended up living with him.
Hm hm. And after about a year living together, we
were at home and we were talking and he said

(09:10):
something to me. I can't believe he said this, And
he said, ah, he said when I got in his
cab that he had recognized me.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
And I said, what are.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
You talking about. He said, when I was a teenager,
I was like eight. He was eighteen at the time.
He said he was him and his friends around I
lived in Ohio.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
He was on he was at Yuclid Beach.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
With his two friends, and he said he remembers me
because he thought he was hallucinating and Lake Erie was
right in front of him, and he said he saw
this huge he had a huge vision of this woman
coming towards him and he saw her face and he

(10:01):
said it was me. And I said, what are you
talking about. He said, I don't know if it was
the mirror one or if I really saw you. And
he said that. I told him when I came towards him.
So I came only so far and I stopped and
I talked to him, and I said, you know, hello, Douglas.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
I knew his name and everything.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
And I told him, I said, uh, you don't know
me right now. I mean, you're seeing me as an adult,
but I'm a child right now. And I told him
I was a child at the moment, which is true,
which I had to tell you to you because I'm
a the story. And I told him, I said, you're
going to meet me later in life, and when you

(10:46):
meet me, you will automatically recognize me.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
I won't recognize you, but you will recognize me.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
And he was like he thought he was loose meeting
or something. And I don't know if I said anything
more to him. I can't remember if I said anything more.
And then he said, I like retreated and I went
back and I faded away or disappeared or something, and
he's and I said, wait, a mite, hold on this.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
I was like, I.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
Can't believe you just described a dream I had when
I was about ten years old, I think ten or eleven. Wow.
And I remember it vividly because I was like flying
not I don't know how to explain it, like going
over the lake Erie, the ocean, going over the I

(11:38):
was on top. I was, oh, I don't know how.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
To explain it.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
The lake was underneath me, and I was moving in
the sky forward until I saw him. Yeah, and then
I stopped and I said, you just I said, I
can't believe you said you just described I remember this
dream because it's scared me because the lake Erie was
underneath me, and I was like, what the heck's going on?

(12:05):
I thought that I was gonna I don't know what
was going on. I thought I was going to fall
on the lake or drown or something. And I told him,
I said I had I had a dream. I yeah,
I was. I went over Lake Erie and I saw
three people on the beach. I said, you were standing
up on your two friends were behind you right sitting
down and he said yeah, and I said yes, but

(12:27):
I remember, I remember you. I remember this was a
dream I had. And he said, how could you have
dreamed that? And I saw you literally in the sky.
I said, I don't know. Then he tells me after
he says this, he says, you know you're a star person.
And I said, what are you talking about. I said,

(12:48):
what do you mean a star person? And he said
you're not from this planet and I said what? Oh, Like,
where you getting this information from? Me? Said? Because? He said,
because when I when he saw me the sky, he
didn't think that I.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
Was from here.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
Yeah, he thought that I was from somewhere else. And
I was like, how could I be not from this planet?
He said, I don't know. I just think you're not
from this planet, that you.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
You're from somewhere else. And I was.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Broad here and I was like, well, as a matter
of fact, you know, something did bring me down to
this earth. And I don't know what.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
I don't know an idea what it was all.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
Right, so sorry about that. So go back to where
you were. You were where you were talking about, I apologize.
We had the phone drop, guys, for sure, a ghost
just knocked that straight down, believe between my legs, all
the way up to the back of the wall.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
So, oh my god, that would scare the heck out
of me. I don't know how.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
I'm just getting used to things moving on their own,
especially in the in the paranormal office with all these
haunted dolls and haunted objects and other stuff. They they
were enjoying using this ghost box, which you can't see
right now, but they were enjoying using the ghost box earlier.
And I guess I shouldn't have turned it on because
now they're like, hey, you know, we want to talk.

(14:11):
So okay, sorry about that, So continue on with your story.
You were talking about how you were basically talking about
that he had seen you kind of in a vision
or whatever.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
So yeah, and he saw me in a vision. And
I told my daughter this. My daughter said that I
must be really powerful, and I say, I'm not powerful.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
I don't have any power in this.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
What do you mean powerful. It's like, well for you
to appear to him, and I said, yeah, I appeared
in a dream.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
I don't understand.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
It was a dream for me, but it was reality
for him, So explain that. I don't I don't get
that right there, it really happened, and I thought I
was dreaming that.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
Yeah, but you projected, you projected yourself out onto, you know,
somewhere else.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
It was almost like that I do that.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
It's just almost like a psychic connection almost where you're
able to psychic projection, where you were basically able to
you know, even though you were dreaming. What do they
call that? Where you can project yourself out and other
people can see you. It's almost like remote viewing. You're
almost like remote viewing, but you were physically a body experience.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
I've never had an out of body experience.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
Yeah, I don't know if it's out of body, especially
if they could see.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
You, because at one time I was he was seeing
me and I was also laying in my bed. Yeah,
so how did I do that? I have no idea.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
Yeah, that's very strange how that happened. But yeah, it's
very strange.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
Is that called like being bilateral, like being in two
places at the time or something.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
Well, no, like I said, projecting yourself out, you essentially
projected yourself out to this whatever location it was. You're
you're basically projecting yours.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
As soon as I went to bed, too soon as
I lay down, I.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
See and that you can you know if you believe
in this, And I don't know if people, you know,
everyone believes in this, because we have we have every already,
from skeptics to people who believe who are knowers, to
people on the fence and stuff that listen to our
podcast and watch our podcasts. So you know, if you
believe this, it basically is just kind of like a

(16:31):
projection of yourself where your body, your soul loves your body,
and you go and explore. There's there's theories that that
does happen with certain people.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
That's the only time that's happened in my life. I
haven't been able to do anything like that.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
Again.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
Well, yeah, it's dangerous when you do that, when you
you basically leave your body and you go and explore.
You know, I recently had an experience where I saw
something I never seen before, and I was in an
area I've never been before. And so we'll get into
that in a different podcast, But anyways, it's very interesting,

(17:08):
So continue on. You guys got together and what happened.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
Well, uh, that was about all he said. He believed
that I was from uh not from here. But I
don't know why we didn't elaborate, and I should have
asked him. Well he didn't.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
He didn't he didn't know where I.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
Was from, but he I don't know where he got
that idea that he thought I was just well, I
guess because he saw me in the sky like that.
He thought it wasn't from this planets and I'm like, hmm,
then where am I from? They were like, well, we didn't,
We didn't know, and I wasn't thinking about.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
Aliens or anything.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
But I take that back. I did have something happen at.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
His house when I was living with him.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
Really what happened.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
I had one incident happened. I can't remember if this
is before or after we talked about what I just
told you when I appeared to him.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
But the one night we were sleeping and.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
I was awake, I was almost fall just about to
fall asleep, I think in our bedroom door flies open
and hits the wall, and it was loud, this big,
huge bang.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
And My daughter was about three years old at.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
The time, I think, and I thought she would.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
Wake and she didn't wake up, and he didn't wake up.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
He was dead asleep in bed. He had his back
towards me, and you sleep and I was looking at
him like, I didn't wake you up to let us bang.
You could hear in your life and nobody wakes up.
And I'm like, why is he waking up?

Speaker 1 (18:49):
Right?

Speaker 2 (18:50):
And I looked at him like, well, he had his
back to me, but I looked at him like, uh,
I don't know. I just thought it.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
Was strange and funny.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
But anyway, Matt, I'm laying there, I'm I'm facing the
door and you know the closet. I'm facing where the
door opened because I saw the door fly open. And
I'm laying there and I kids, you know, this is
probably well.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
I don't know how times you see these aliens.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
These two little three foot alien creatures come walking in
the room. Wow. And I usually don't see him that,
you know, when I'm awake like that, I don't. I
had to think really hard on many times if I see
him in my bedroom, but not too many.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
They come walking in two of them and.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Uh, one went went down the left side because our
bed was on the right side.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
Ride a bigie's waterbed.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
Too big anyway, the one that was uh he the
door was to the left side, so one went he
went down the side, went to the right and stood
like at the front of.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
The waterbed a little like a little bit to the standing.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
There, and the other one was standing like across from
me when he came in. They come in, and I'm
thinking in my head that again, And I'm like, oh
my god, why did I just think that? Not again?
What he did? I think that for? Look at them
and I'm looking on thinking I must be dreaming. Of

(20:25):
course I talk everything off is a dream, and I'm like,
I must be seeing things. These things look like aliens.
No way.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
I'm wrestling with this in my head and I'm like, no, Laury,
you have to be dreaming.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
You can't want to be seeing these these these things
that you know, It's like, no way, right, what would
they be doing in my bank room? What would they
be what would.

Speaker 3 (20:45):
They want with me?

Speaker 2 (20:46):
You know?

Speaker 3 (20:46):
Why where did they come from?

Speaker 2 (20:48):
But why with what they want with me? Ain't nobody
you know?

Speaker 1 (20:51):
Right?

Speaker 2 (20:52):
But anyway, anyway, they tell me to get out of
bed and I'm like, plf asleep halfway get on my
Uh okay, so I i'd get out of bed and
I'm standing there and they say to me to let's
go downstairs or something, and I'm not thinking anything.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
I'm like forgetting there even there.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
So I go out to the hallway and they're behind me. Okay,
so they're behind me. We go down to the steps
and go down to the steps, and I turned to
the left because if you have to go down, well,
we couldn't. There's there's this.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
Other stair way we could have gone to on the.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
Right side that would have led to the kitchen, but
I went to the left, which led to the living room.
So I turned down and go down to the other
steps in the living room and I'm standing there and
I blackout, so I don't even know I don't even
realize they're behind me. I have no idea what happened
after that. And then all of a sudden, I wake

(22:00):
up and okay, because when we came down, I was
facing uh the like the coffee table. So when I
come back and the coffee table's now behind me and
I'm standing there, I wake up out of nowhere, and
I woke up and I'm like, what am I doing
down here in the living room? And I was just like, oh,

(22:23):
I don't know. So I just not lightly walked back
upstairs and laid out in the bed.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
I didn't even close the door, and.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
I lay down the bed.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
And then I get up in the morning.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
And then Doug gets up, and he gets up and
he turns around and he's like, how can we do
and close the bedroom door? And I said, I closed
the bedroom door when we went to bed. I said,
I don't know why it's ol. He it was wide open.
I said, I don't know, it's wide open. I didn't
go to the bathroom. I had no idea. You didn't
open it. I didn't open it.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
Nobody else opened it.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
Hmmm. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
I have no idea what happened. I don't know what
they did.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
That's creepy.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
I don't know how long I was gone, but I
guess it was gone, probably a good couple hours easy,
I'm sure. Wow, no clue what they did. Right anyway,
I can't remember if that was before or after he
told me about the vision he had on me. I
don't know if I if this happened before.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
I think it happened before.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Oh, and oh, I remember. I remember. I told him.
I said, oh, I had a dream about aliens last night.
I told him that at dinner time because I remember something.
And he said something smart like, oh, did they have
sex with you or something.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
Like that, and I was like, oh, boy, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
I don't remember what happened, but I remember dreaming about aliens,
and he just, you know, thought it was funny at
the time. And I'm like, I don't know if its
real or not, but it seemed like I was real.
But that's as far as that went. I didn't I
didn't tell them that they came in the room, and right,

(24:08):
I should have told him. I didn't even tell them.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
All that because.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
They're joking about it.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
And I was like, I don't know what they did.
They could have could have done anything to me. I
don't remember.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
You know, these aliens, they could be doing anything to you.
Because my baby sister, Gail, she's like, oh, I wish
I could get it abducted. She's jealous because I'm an
alien abducted. And I told her and I was like, Gail,
you don't know what these aliens can be doing anything,
just about anything to you and you won't remember. I said,
it's not all peaches and cream. You know.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
She's like, oh, well, she's jealous.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
She's like, why are they Why were they taking you
your whole life or not me?

Speaker 3 (24:48):
And because she has to wear a blood type, I
was like, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
I said, you don't remember anything strange ever happened to
you through the years, And she said no. I said, well,
sometimes I abduct people. They don't even know they're being abducted.
They've been adopted for fifty years and they don't even
know it.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
Yeah, exactly. It's probably the best thing to be honest
with you. I mean, imagine I know that trauma that
you've gone through and just having to remember all this
stuff and you know, the things, the scary things that
you have encountered. You know, imagine all that coming back
to you all at once or something, you know. I mean,
that'd be I won't imagine, that'd be pretty traumatic, full.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
Of things that happened because.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
They've had to be taking me eight thousands I say
thousands of abductions. The uh because the one thing I
remember remember that that one alien said that they did
at least two hundred and thirty five procedures on me,
which is another word for surgery or operations or so
I don't know what they're doing. And I was like

(25:53):
two hundred.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
I didn't see them.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
I heard them in this incident when he said, oh,
how many procedure have we done in her? Two hundred
and forty five and the other one said no, two
hun thirty five. And I was like, oh my god,
at least experimenting on me two hundred and thirty five.
That's at least two hundred thirty five abductions right there.
And I said, I was thinking, what, Yeah, that's pretty,

(26:17):
but I.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
Didn't want to think about it.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
I was like, oh my god, I don't want to
think about what you're doing to me, what you're doing
to me.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
Or that is creepy. Yeah, it's just creepy, it really is.
It's just yeah, anyways, why don't you continue on with
your your next story?

Speaker 2 (26:33):
Okay, the next story is it's a short one, but
this is when I was in my thirties and I
was looking with my my my kids.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
It's just me and my kids.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
I had two. But anyway, the one night, uh, I
don't know what was going on. I uh, I don't
know how I slept through this, but I kept feeling
like something was burning me through the night. This is
through the night. Now. I don't know if these aliens

(27:06):
were in my room or I don't know. I have
no idea what was going on. But I couldn't wake up,
and I was trying to wake up because they kept
they kept fully like somebody or something was burning me.
So I wake up met and I kid you not,
I had like, oh god, I don't know, over a
dozen like I'm trying to get six seven inches like

(27:32):
welts on my back. I don't know if you call
them weltz. But they were black. They were black, and
they were long. They were all over my back. I
woke up to this and they were like almost like
open and when I got up, I was like, my
whole back was was such pain. And I looked in
the mirror and I was shocked and I was like, oh,

(27:53):
oh my god.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
They look like they were black. They look like burns,
and I was.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Like, what the heck is this probably all over my back.
I don't know how many it was.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
Probably it was probably both dry of blood underneath the skin.
Were they were they that an them.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
All over my back long?

Speaker 1 (28:14):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (28:15):
I don't know if you call it welts.

Speaker 3 (28:17):
I don't know exactly.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
Yeah, I mean, well they're probably they probably looked like scratches.
Were they scratches?

Speaker 2 (28:24):
No, they did not look like scratches. They were long. Uh.
They were like in what do you call it, Like
I say, my left shoulder. There was one going like
to the right angle. It was like six seven inches long.
They were long. Then there'd be one going on the

(28:46):
there would be one on the other's shoulder going the
other way, and then there would be you know, different
ones in the middle of going all different uh, like
all different directions. They were all long, and they were
like kind of open a little bit in the middle.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
Were they were they uh in sets of threes like
three finger marks?

Speaker 2 (29:08):
Nope, they were all over my back. They were in
different I don't know how to explain it. But they
were all over. They were not in like in a row.
They were like to say, there was like like one
of my left shoulder, one on my right shoulder. Then
there would be one going across like the top middle
of my back. Then there would be one going like

(29:29):
down the other You know what I mean, they were
just what do you mean random?

Speaker 1 (29:36):
Yeah, huh interesting, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
I don't and and what kills me when it happened.
I never went to a doctor to have it checked.
I don't know why, because these were on my back
for more than a month or maybe a month and
a half or I don't know why.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
And I went to.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
Looking. Yeah, so these burns on my back.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
And I don't know why I didn't go and find
out exactly what they were.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
Yeah, so I was. I was looking for demonic Usually
demonic attacks, when you get scratches, it comes in in
like threes, like three finger marks, three like somebody takes
their their fingernails and scrapes it down your back, usually
in a pattern, and it usually goes away after, you know,
sometimes minutes or hours or even days. Sometimes they last

(30:30):
up the days, but not months.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
No, this these were there were a lot of them.
They were at least over ten of them, and they
were No, they were not a three pattern like that.
I know what you're talking about. No, it didn't look
look like that. They were all imagine long like.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
I don't think there.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
I don't know if they're they're considered weltz or I
don't know what the word is for them.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
Was it almost like you got dragged on the ground
or something against some kind of rough surface.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
No. I felt this burning all night when I was
sleeping and I was trying to wake myself up up.
I don't know if I was moaning in pain. I
might have been in my sleep because it burned.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
I'm telling you it was. My whole back was burning
all night.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
And I'm like, who is bringing what is burning my back?
And then I wake up and I'm like, what, where
the heck where did these come from? How did these? Oh?
My god, this joke me nuts. I couldn't figure out
who did that?

Speaker 3 (31:33):
What did that?

Speaker 2 (31:34):
Like? Like you take a mineral poker stick like you
used in a fireplace, one of the poker.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
Things with like a hot poker.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
I said, these were long, These these things on my
back were like seventy inches long each. They were real
long black black burns. They were black. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
It sounds like exactly what it sounds like. It sounds
like something burn the hell out of you.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
Yeah, I don't understand who it was, what it was,
and what was the point of that. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
Weird.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
The house I was in was not haunted as far
as I know, I didn't see anything when I lived there.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
Hmm, that's crazy. I mean I've heard a lot of
paranormal stories, but that's that's a new one on me. Yeah.
I mean I've seen demonic attacks. I've seen you know,
I've got been subject to my own demonica attacks. But
I've never heard of anybody having like burn marks like
that on their back. I'll have to look that one up.

(32:36):
That's pretty interesting.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
I've never heard of that either.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
Yeah, that's that's crazy. It would have been interesting to
see if maybe they were some kind of radioactive waves,
you know, or radioactive.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
I didn't have cancer because I've never had cancer.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
In my life. I'm thinking, no, I couldn't have been
like a symptom of cancer.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
I don't no, no, no, not a symptom of cancer,
but something from me when you made me sleep.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
Within a month, I didn't go to a doctor, and
I don't know why did it gets checked out.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
That was duble me not to have that checked out.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
Well, sometimes when they go to look at landing sites
where UFOs have been, there are radioactive waves or radioactive
energy left behind, so That's why I was saying, maybe
it was some kind of radioactive something or other. Maybe
you know, they just you got to put somewhere that
had radioactive material or something like that.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
Yeah, something could have happened, and I I don't remember.
I just remember I feeling like there was somebody in
my room or two people in my room, and they
were doing something to my back because I felt like
there was somebody there. I felt something while I was
sleeping and I couldn't open my eyes and try to
open my eyes well like because I wanted to see

(33:59):
what was going on, but I couldn't.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
So yeah, I mean that could have been so traumatic
that your brain just that's completely you know, shut it out.
But you do remember waking up to it. And it
might be a good thing that you don't remember what happened,
because I mean, it might be super scary to find
out what really happened.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
So yeah, I probably would with a lot of these incidents.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
It's crazy. So what else happened to you?

Speaker 2 (34:33):
The next the next one, I don't know if I
told you about the elevator incident. This is a quick one.
Go ahead, Well, this this is the one where I
think this happened in Hawaii. I got always speaking about
burns on my back. This one I got burns on
my head.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
So and I.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
Showed my daughter I had about one, two or three physics.
I don't know about ten burns on my head, my scalp,
my hair, and I don't know anybody. I heard one
other story on a podcast with a man who had
burns under on his scalp too, under his you know,

(35:22):
under his hair, and I was like, oh, and he's like,
I've never heard anybody who's had the same thing I had.
I'm like listening, like I have, you know. Anyway, Anyway,
this incident, I was thinking, Uh, they had to be
reading my mind or something.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
Or had some kind of sounds like that, some kind
of device on your head or something.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
I wonder if they had some kind of device attached
to your head, or maybe even they zeered down into
your you know, into your skin so I could get
close to your skull or something. I wonder if they
were trying to read your brain waves or something.

Speaker 3 (35:58):
Well, I I.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
Believe they were doing that, but I think the burns
came from because at the time I used to wear
my hair in a ponytail right, I'd wear my hairt
my pottytail, a pie on my head. And I believe
part of it it was because I remember laying on
his table. I was sleeping, but I felt somebody pulling

(36:25):
my hair. I kept pulling, pulling my hair, like, I'm thinking,
it's pulling my hair, you know. I could feel this
in my when I I don't know, it must not
have been that asleep, but I was thinking, oh, I
think this alien didn't know how to put my hair
back into a ponytail. And I also got I had three.

Speaker 3 (36:45):
Burns on my four burns on my forehead.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
I had three or four round red dots up on
my forehead and I should I looked. I was like, Laura, look,
I was like, this is from the Aliens.

Speaker 3 (36:58):
She knew was from aliens. I was like, look, three
four little red that's.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
Right up high on my right side of my forehead.
Like where did those come from? I got them in
the morning. I look in the mirror. I'm like, what
is that. She's like, I said, something happened last night,
But every time something happened, I would tell her and
I was like, Laura, I'm surprised. You don't think your
mom is just just looney crazy. She believes, she believes
everything I would say, and then she see evidence and

(37:23):
she's like, what is that? Well, you got four birds
on your forehead, I said, I have like a dozen
more on my scalp and Matt they took six years
to clear up. Six years.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
Wow, and they were inane. Did you ever get pictures
of her? Did you ever get any pictures of these?

Speaker 2 (37:47):
Uh? No, I don't think I ever did. But they
burned too. They would they would uh they would itch
and I would uh peel the skin off of them
because it would they would like, uh, the skin would
like try to like I don't know, like you know,
like when you get a scab on your leg if
you fall, skin heels over. It would do that.

Speaker 3 (38:11):
Oh my god. This thing strove me nuts.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
But why I think that I know?

Speaker 1 (38:20):
This thing?

Speaker 2 (38:20):
He tried. They tried to put my hair back in
a point tail because when I woke up in the
morning and my ponytail was usually almost right at the
top of my head, my ponytail was now, uh like
right in the back of my head at the top
it was right and in the back though it wasn't
at the top. It moved back and I took I

(38:45):
was trying to take the rubber bands out of my
I had I don't know if I had three rubber bands,
and I don't know. I was trying to take them out,
and I'm like, lo are these rubber bands are all
tangled up within the But it took me like a
good ten minutes. It doesn't take ten minutes to take
rubber bands out of your hair. When you have a
twenty deal only it takes you maybe thirty seconds. Okay,

(39:06):
this took me. I could not get the rubber bands
out of my hair. Tis I'm still in there fighting
with these rubber bands. I take them out. I finally
get them out of my hair, and the rubber bands
have hair all what do you call it mixed into
the rubber bands. It was like a big glob of hair.

(39:27):
I never have like gloves and gloves of hair mixed
in with the rubber bands.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
They're all tangled up.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
That's why I couldn't get the rubber bands were in right.
They were all twisted, like three of them, and then
there was all kinds of hair. That was that's why
I had a hard time getting the rubber bands out.
I show my daughter. I said, look look at this.
I said, I had my rubber bands. I'd never have
They're never twisted like this, and they never have like

(39:54):
there was like a funeral twenty twenty pieces of hair
and the rubber band, you know what I mean. And
I was like, and then I was remembering and uh
after uh, this alien got the night. Uh here in
a plenty tail. Then uh, there was another one on

(40:18):
the right side. They woke me up.

Speaker 3 (40:19):
This is what I remember.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
They woke me up, and I sit up and I'm like,
I feel like I'm drugged or something. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
Maybe they drug me. I don't know what it was.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
But I stood up and I'm like, you know me,
like I was definitely carelessly and I see this alien
standing there. He was like right in front of me.
I was scared of him or nothing.

Speaker 3 (40:41):
It's like I knew him or something.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
And he goes, uh, okay, get get your my clothes on,
and I'm thinking, the hell are you talking about? Are
you talking where you get my pj's on. He's like, Oh,
we like you because you don't wear anything to bed.
You just just at the time, I just wore myrie
a long PJ shirt in my own to wear. I
don't wear nothing. You know this. I don't know it
was winter time or what it was, but they're like, oh,

(41:04):
we like you because you don't. You're easy to, you know,
get undressed.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
I guess they were talking and I so.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
Clothes and I was like half sleepy. I'm like, yeah,
I wasn't even scared of him or nothing. I was
really it was not competing what he was saying at
the time.

Speaker 3 (41:21):
And I'm like, huh. I'm like, okay, it's weird.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
But anyway, I remember I get off this table I
was laying on and I follow him because he told
me to follow him. It's I go and I follow him.
When we go to this like open elevator. I remember this,
this elevator, and I guess we were gonna go down,
and that's all I remember. I remember the other alien

(41:49):
was standing there, the alien that was did my hair.
He was standing there. He was like in a white cloak.
I remember he had like a white uh uh, I
don't know what you call it, just like a white
thing from you know, like priest swear, like a dress.

Speaker 3 (42:04):
Wasn't a dressed at all, but it was pure white.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
But he was tall, real tall alien, probably like eight
feet tall, maybe even taller. He's kind of.

Speaker 3 (42:15):
Scary looking, but I didn't go near him.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
But anyway, I went on this elevator and we went.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
Down, and after that I blacked out.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
I don't know how I got home.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
I don't even.

Speaker 3 (42:25):
Remember how they took me.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
At the time, either, but I vividly remember that. Wow,
how I remember some of these I gets these little
snippets of memories and they're vivid too. But you know,
like I said, at the time, I thought all of
this was all of these are dreams. So but after

(42:51):
I moved to Hawaii, Well, what happened at my sister Juanes.
Remember I told you what happened at my sister Joanne's. Yeah,
that was too real. And I even said to my
nephew before I went to bed, I said, I hope
nothing weird. I said, I hope nothing happens tonight, and God,

(43:14):
has something happened. And I told my nephew, I said,
I wish you were a girl, because if you were
a girl, I would let you sleep in bed with
me in case something happens. He's like, damn it.

Speaker 3 (43:25):
I was like, yeah, you can't sleep with.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
Me done it because I wanted I wanted him.

Speaker 3 (43:29):
To, you know, I wanted him.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
Yeah, math, something happened under right under there were his house,
and he missed the whole thing, and he's pissed about
it to this day.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
Crazy But anyway, all right, we'll talk to us about
what happened to your sister's house.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
Oh you want to go there, because I was going
to tell you what happened.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
With this other?

Speaker 2 (43:56):
Did I te you the incident? About what happened where
I thought it was on the moon? And I tell
you that one? I don't know if I told you
that one.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
I don't remember. Go ahead and tell it again.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
I can't remember if I told you. Okay, this one. Uh,
I have no idea how old I was at this time.
I didn't write anything down, so sadly I think I was.
I might have been in my thirties. I don't know.
But well, what happened with this incident? This is a
good one. Sold my sister Gil about this too. I

(44:29):
told my daughter to uh, I wake up. I end
up waking up, and of course on a kurney again.
I'm always on this kurnie. I'm laying on this curtie
and there's an alien at the behind me. I'd like
the by my head, he's behind me. Yeah, And I

(44:53):
woke up and I told I told my sister. I said, uh,
all I saw were like a billion stars, like they
were right there, Like they were like maybe one hundred
feet above me or something.

Speaker 3 (45:09):
They were like right there.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
And I told her, I said, I don't know if
I was on the moon. I say that last month, Okay, Yeah,
so no, I told her about it, and I woke
up and it just looked like to me and like
I thought I was on the moon. I don't know
where I was. That's when it seemed to me. It

(45:32):
didn't seem like I was here because of the stars
were too way too close.

Speaker 3 (45:38):
They were just right there.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
I don't know, I don't know I'm saying it. I'm
saying I was on the moon, which is crazy. And
my sister's like they took it to the moon. I said,
I don't know which planet.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
There are theories that you know, aliens possibly have you know,
moon basis.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
Yeah, we were talking, Yeah, we were talking about that.

Speaker 3 (46:04):
Yeah, I heard about that.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
I believe it. I bet they are on.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
The moon, wouldn't surprise me.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
Yeah, I wouldn't be far fetched, because the moon is
not far from here, for one thing. But anyway, when
I was laying there, it was, you know, it was dark.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
It was real dark.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
But when I was laying when I was laying down,
I saw like it was towards like maybe a candy
corner to the left to where it was laying. I saw.
I actually saw this ufo. It was round, it was big.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
It was just sitting there.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
And I'm looking at it and I'm like, that's that
can't be a UFO. I was thinking of this in
my head. I was like, there's no way that looks
like a UFO. And it looks like I'm on the moon.
What the heck is going on. I wasn't awake too,
because I woke up and I'm like, I can't be
this can't this can't be a drink. But I wrote
off as a dream like I did it. I don't
know why, like I did everything else. But I saw

(47:04):
this alien standing in the doorway of this ufo. There
was there was something standing there. But there were also
a couple of aliens standing at the end of my
gjourney too. There was I was like surrounded by them
and I was just sticking to my head. What the heck?
Where am I? What is going on? You know? Uh?

(47:28):
So anyway, I'm laying there and uh, this alien tells
me to turn my head.

Speaker 3 (47:37):
So I turned my head to.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
The right and I see, like I don't I don't
think the moon has bushes and the shrubs and.

Speaker 3 (47:46):
Stuff like that, but that's what I saw.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
It was like ten feet away from me, and I'm like,
the moon doesn't have trees or shrubs or I'm like,
what the heck. But anyway, in between all these I
saw like there was like I don't know, three or
four like a little bushes standing there or something like that.
But surrounding that I saw there was I think six

(48:13):
or seven aliens standing there and they're like either ten
of twelve feet away from They weren't that far away
from me. I'm looking at them and I think, it,
don't come there me do that?

Speaker 1 (48:29):
What were they doing just standing there looking at you?

Speaker 2 (48:32):
Yes, they were all men. They're all male, and they
were wearing some something black. I don't know if they
had like black cloaks down again, what it was.

Speaker 3 (48:41):
But this is this is Staith part Matt. When I
looked at them.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
They were.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
Half human and half alien in the face right, get this,
the alien part half of them was on the right
look alien the left part of their face. They look
like me. They looked just like me. I looked at
him like, why do they look like me? Then the
alien that was standing by my head told me that
those were my children, and I said, no way, I.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
Wouldn't accept that.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
I was like, no, wait, they're not my kids.

Speaker 3 (49:13):
They're not my children. What are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (49:15):
Yeah, those are your you're my my.

Speaker 3 (49:18):
My I was like, oh my god, oh even.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
So I don't want to hear that. Yeah, the human
part of them looked like they looked just like me.
I said, well, they half looked like me. Faces were split,
and I'm like, wow, I've never seen that half alien.
I said, Oh, they didn't come out right half alien
half human face.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
That was yeah, that was And they were moving weird.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
They were moving like, uh like they're floating like a
little bit, like they couldn't keep still. They were like,
they looked very strange. They looked alien, and they they
didn't talk or anything. They just too right where they were.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
We did it again and knocked the phone off that time.
That was me, okay, so keep going and what no,
keep going? And what you were you were saying?

Speaker 2 (50:13):
Well, after that, I don't know what they did. I
don't know if they took me back in their ship.
I don't remember after that. They I think they took
me back. They just wanted me to see that. That's
all I remember out of that.

Speaker 3 (50:28):
But what was vivid were the stars.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
It's like, I gotta be there's no way I'm on
the earth and I'm gonna word how I am because
I was like, wow, I've never seen a star so close. Dang,
Like they were almost gonna fall on top of me,
that's how close they were. Like I swear they were.

Speaker 3 (50:48):
Like maybe hard feet.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
Up right, they were right there. I've never seen a
milk billions of said start. I'm like marveling, like, wow,
what the heck, Cam, I.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
Did you take me this time? Yeah? All right, Well,
tell tell us about your story, sister stories. And we
got to end this because it's getting a little longer,
almost at an hour.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
Okay, Uh, oh, my sister Gail's what happened in her house.
What the strange part about is, uh, when it happened,
we didn't talk about it for the next, like thirty
some years, we didn't we didn't discuss it, which I
don't understand that at all.

Speaker 3 (51:35):
And then I told.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
Gil what happened, Well, what happened? It was really strange. Uh.
I don't know if this had anything to do with it.
She lived in this house and she had this one room,
little tiny room with that was peanuted black. And I
asked her, I said, Gail, what is this strange room
peanut black? And she said, all the people who used

(51:57):
to live here used to do double worship in this room.

Speaker 3 (52:01):
I said, oh my god, what are you doing.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
In this house? If this this.

Speaker 3 (52:04):
Little room to me was spooky.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
Was right off the living room room all painted black,
looks like a like a little closet or something. I
don't know if he had anything to do with it
what happened to me, but that's, oh my god. This
room was just so creeptic. You shouldn't be living here
with if there's a room like this, if someone was
doing you know, we're between a doubler who knows what.

Speaker 3 (52:27):
They were doing.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
She's like, congratulations, just sleeping in there. What I said, congratulations,
you're sleeping in there?

Speaker 2 (52:36):
No, No, I was sleeping in Okay, the room is
on the right hand side.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
I know. I'm just I'm just joking with you.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
Okay, I'm sleeping close to it in the living room,
miss right on the left side to this little room.
So anyway, uh, the one night I go to bed
and uh, what was strange? We both said, oh, uh,
we're just talking about aliens and stuff and for some

(53:03):
reason unifos and my sister said, yeah, sometimes they they
do surgery on you or something in your bedroom and
leave all the blood and you get all kinds of
blood on your pillow. And I was like, oh my god.

Speaker 1 (53:17):
I would you know.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
If if that happened to me.

Speaker 3 (53:22):
I said, oh my god, that would just scare the
heck out of me. He's like, well, that's what they
just heard this.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
I was like, yeah, I heard that too. So anyway,
we go to bed and I'm late. I am laying
at her sofa. Oh this At this point, I was
staying with her because I had just broke up with
Duck and I just had a child by him, and
he was.

Speaker 3 (53:42):
Almost a year old. He was like nine months old,
and he.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
Was in his best set at the end of the sofa,
and my daughter was on the other sofa in the
front room like so we were both at the left side.
It was at the left side of the wall, trying
to paint a picture here. But anyway, I go to
bed and all of a sudden, Uh, I feel like, uh,
there's somebody in the room. There's somebody in the house.

(54:10):
And I didn't know what was going on. And I
said in my head, who who's who's here? Somebody here?
And they answered me and they said, no, there's nobody here.
And I said, yes, you just answered me. I said,
who are you.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
I'm like, you know what that's going on.

Speaker 2 (54:32):
After that, they were quite. They wouldn't say nothing to me,
but I knew somebody. I felt somebody was in the room.
I think they told me to go back to bed
or something. And the whole night I was on edge.
I was I was asleep, but I was jeannery and
I was trying also. I was trying to open my

(54:53):
eyes once again all night and I was trying to
open my eyes out, open my eyes. I was so
mad because I was I said, don't do it anything
to my son, my baby sitting.

Speaker 3 (55:01):
I said, don't touch it, don't touch my kids.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
I was so terrified. I don't know how I slept,
but I don't think I was really asleep. I was uh,
I was too nervous, and I was I couldn't wake up,
so I couldn't make myself up. I couldn't. Finally, in
the morning, it was in the morning, I don't know,
seven eight o'clock, my eyes just opened up, uh, out

(55:27):
of nowhere. It's like like they like they were sealed
shut or something something, you know. And so I get
up and I told my sisters this years ago, because
I never told her what happened. And I said there
was something in that house that night, and she said,
you're a kiddie, and I said, no, there was.

Speaker 3 (55:50):
But anyway, I get up, and.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
I don't know. I didn't tell her anything of what
I was going at at night. I don't know what
they're exactly doing. But she gets up, she comes into
the living room where I'm at. Then I teach you
not mad. She goes over to my daughter, who was
laying on the front so far right.

Speaker 1 (56:16):
Uh huh.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
She goes, oh, walks over there and she says, oh
my god. And I said, what what's going on? And
she goes, oh, my god, look at this she picks
up her pillow, Matt, and it is full of bloods
looked at me, and I look at her and I said,
are you kidding? You gave each other this looked like

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what happened.

Speaker 3 (56:41):
She's like, oh my god, Laura, you okay.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
She woke up, she was fine, and this this her
whole almost her whole pillow was covered with blood. And
I'm like, how could she if they just her, how
could she lose that much blood and.

Speaker 3 (56:54):
Be okay when she woke up.

Speaker 2 (56:56):
Yeah, that's the only time that that has ever happened.
And Meg, you know, said nothing. She took the pill
I don't know if she threw it in the garbage.
I don't know what she did. We said nothing after that.
I can't believe we didn't say, just give each other
this weird look like.

Speaker 3 (57:16):
We were just talking about this, not.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
Just you know, just yesterday last night, yesterday, we were
just talking about this.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
Sometimes the traumatic events happened. And maybe she's been adducted too.
Maybe it just hit her as Okay, this is normal.
And you know, and you too, I mean you probably
both probably have experienced something like that before, so it
was more normal normal for you guys, and also probably
was extremely traumatic, especially to your daughter. I mean, I

(57:48):
can't even imagine if I kids, you know, I'd be
I'd be really upset. Uh, you know, I'd be trying
to figure out a way to blockade my house. Okay,
you all get ten. Well, hats the night. You're wearing one,
You're wearing one. I'm wearing one. Yeah, No, I mean
I was.

Speaker 3 (58:07):
I was thinking I was one. Do you think they
might have switched pools?

Speaker 2 (58:10):
Because I was thinking maybe they did something to me
and put the pool over by her.

Speaker 3 (58:14):
But why would they switch pillows?

Speaker 1 (58:17):
Who knows, I mean.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
Doing something to her when they were really doing something
to me. That's what I was thinking of. That's what
I thought my head for years.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
I don't know. I mean usually usually it makes sense
to me from what I've done. I've researched on people
that are abducted. It's usually you know, if if one
person in the family is abducted, usually multiple people from
that family are aducted and it continues down the line.
I met ad met a mother. I met a mother

(58:47):
that had two kids that have very similar stories that
you know she was abducted, and then you know she
had multiple babies. That were taking from her, and then
you know, it went down the bloodline as she had kids,
her kids started getting abducted and she stopped getting abducted.
And then it started in with the you know, the
sisters kids, and you know, they all had they all

(59:08):
had stories of being abducted, and they don't they didn't
want to talk about it on a podcast or anything.
They were they wanted to keep it secret. So I
won't reveal any information more information, but it it seems
like that's kind of what it's happened and everything I've
done research on with alien productees, which I've only done

(59:30):
a few, because every time.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
I do anything, it's always good for people to tell
their story because they could be giving someone information, you know,
that you never heard about, or they could saying happened,
or they could have new information.

Speaker 1 (59:47):
That right right and tell what happened. And when you
start listening to these stories, a lot of them, I mean,
they they're very very sa more. You know, this happened
to me having to my sister, having my daughter having
to you know, and the and the stories if you

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if you're listening to them, they're very very common.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
I have a dumb question, what would cause them to
that for that much blood to be at what would
they be doing for that, for a pillow to be
almost covered with blood? That's what I'm thinking.

Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
What would they what were they doing?

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
I would find when she woke up, she wasn't.

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
Sick, right, who knows? I mean, imagine being you know,
a thousand years ten thousand years advanced of us. You know,
maybe they can basically reproduce our blood and just put
it back in, or maybe they can cause things to happen.
They can, they can probably if their technology is so

(01:00:53):
advanced that they can travel through space and possibly time
and abduct us without people even noticing. And and basically
a lot of people don't even remember the abductions until
they wake up one day and oh my gosh, why
do I have this memory? And then they go back
into therapy and you know, start to figure out, oh

(01:01:14):
my gosh, and they start to have all these memories
like you get happen.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
At my sisters, and all the memories.

Speaker 3 (01:01:25):
Right right, and it's.

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
I mean, it's traumatic. I mean, imagine that kind of
thing happening. I mean, I don't think they really want
people to know that what's going on and if they're
into interdimensional or wherever they are, they're from another dimension
or from another planet, or maybe they're just from what
I remember watching this one guy, he took you know,

(01:01:51):
human head, He took a picture of himself and he
put it into a program that basically showed his evolution
for one hundred years, two hundred years, five hundred years,
one thousand years, lying like ten thousand years, and I
think one hundred thousand years, but at a thousand years
from now, he looked just like a gray alien. His

(01:02:14):
head had gotten bigger, his mouth had gotten smaller, his
nose has gotten smaller, his ears basically had just basically disappeared,
and he looked just like a gray alien. His body
had gotten smaller, and basically the program was saying that
he would be telepathic and stuff like that. So I mean,
like I said, I mean, they could literally be us

(01:02:35):
from the future. And from what I understand, I mean,
I've heard a lot of people say that talk about them,
that they just they're just trying to save their race
and they're using humans to try and breed more more
you know, beings for them because they've they basically destroyed
their planet and they destroyed their.

Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
Their Yeah, I've heard that, but that theory, it doesn't
make any sense to me that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
They're us from the future. I think that they are
from the past.

Speaker 3 (01:03:06):
I think they've been here since the.

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
Beginning of time, maybe been here all along.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
But what the thing I don't understand about them is
why are they If they're not from here, what are
they concerned about our environment and our planet?

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
We're well, imagine the planets, imagine that from here, what
do they care? Well, imagine if if they are from
the future, and maybe they're us, and maybe they're trying
to go back and fix the mistakes that they made
what I'm saying, or if they're an dimensional maybe in
their dimension, maybe they did something different and so now

(01:03:42):
they basically are coming back here to you know, repopulate
the planet or whatever. I mean. I've heard a lot
of theories on what aliens are and that there's multiple
there's multiple Yeah, there's multiple differences.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
I can't come but I.

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
Mean, if you, yeah, if you look at it this way,
if you took our Solar system, just our Solar system,
and you put our planet up against the Solar System,
we wouldn't even be a spec of dust in our
own solar system. So imagine there's what millions of solar systems.
I mean, how tiny we'd have to have like a
whole whole huge microscope just to be able to see us,

(01:04:24):
and it would probably look like a speck of dust.
So I mean, who's to say there isn't some kind
of other intelligent life out there? And I know a
lot of the people will listen are religious too, But
I was listening to some guy, a preacher, actually talked
about it the other day and he I don't know
why he brought up aliens, but it was pretty interesting
that he said, you know, God, in the Bible, it

(01:04:44):
never does say that there isn't other life forms other places.
I guess he was just trying to be more open
to the idea of it. But he was saying, there's
there's no nothing in the Bible that says that God
doesn't say there's another aren't other life forms. He didn't
create other life life another on other planets, so it doesn't.
It is kind of interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
I disagree with him. God created everything that Christians say
that all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
Well, I'm just saying he creates He.

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
And he created all these galaxies and planets and stars.
So there's got to be life on other planets. But
that's not a far fetched idea.

Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
Yeah, yeah, he was create anything. Okay, right, well, yeah,
that's what he was saying, is he was saying that,
you know, there's no there's no, he's not he was
saying that there is a possibility that there is life
on other planets. Now he was talking to a general
general audience, you know, so he was kind of being
careful about how he was saying it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:45):
But oh, he hasn't seen a UFO.

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
He needs to see I'm sure you know. He was
just yeah, he was. He was trying to be Yeah,
he was trying to be you know, non confrontal with people,
but he was opened to the idea of other life
forms being on other planets, and so it was kind

(01:06:08):
of interesting to hear him talk about that. But yeah,
just interesting anyways, So continue on with your stories.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
But it's it's good when they believe in it, you know, it's.

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
Right, let's do let's do one more because we're almost
at an hour, and we're over an hour right now.

Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
So okay, I have a short one and I haven't
told you about Hawaii. Just this this happened in Hawaii.
But UH and Kansas. Well, next next time I talk
about Kansas, then Hawaii I had. I can't. We've had much.
So many things they had happened in Hawaii, Okay, but Hawaii, UH,

(01:06:51):
I had found out. I was there for twelve years.
I found out that the Big Island is UH. They
have uiful They were all over the Big Island. Hawaii
is invaded with UFOs and they don't talk about it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:08):
They don't say nothing about it on the news, which
I don't understand.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
But I lived in the Wahu and they said the
UFOs from the Big Island come over to all the
other islands. And I can't even tell you how many
UFOs I saw when I was in Hawaii. So they
saw so many. I was so happy.

Speaker 3 (01:07:29):
I'm weird.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
I was happy when I saw. But this one short
incident happened my granddaughter. I didn't She doesn't know anything
about me. I didn't my daughter me. We didn't tell
her I'm an alien abductor. I have two granddaughters, neither
one of them no. But she this was strange that

(01:07:54):
I got. How old was she at the time? Eight nine?
Hold she was now she maybe be a little bit
younger than that. But anyway, she started telling us like
strange stories. But one day she told my daughter that
she went out of her body and she was sitting

(01:08:15):
outside on the roof of the house the one night
and we were like, what, like miror and he's Marra.
I'm like, Mira, are you are you? Are you making
this upper? Or are you for real? She said no, I
was outside And I'm like, how did you get out?
How did you get back in? I don't know. She
said she was outside sitting on a chimney or something

(01:08:37):
like what are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
So she had a disembodied experience. Huh, she had a
disembodied out of body experience.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
She had a couple of them, she said a couple
of times she was outside flying around and in the
I don't know where she was, where she went. She
just happened to her a couple of times. And I'm like, Bara,
are you for real? What do you mean? You you out?
You outside flying around? I said, were you physically flying
with your physical body or or she.

Speaker 3 (01:09:06):
Said yeah, she was.

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
I guess I guess. I think she said it was
a physical body. I'm like, like she talking about and
I'm like, hmmm, of course.

Speaker 1 (01:09:16):
That's a place I called the that's a place I
call the in between. It's in between. It's it's a
place I call the in between. It's kind of in
between life and death, where you're you're basically your soul
separates from your body and you're not yet in heaven
and you're not away from your body, but you're kind
of in between. I haven't had an experience, like I said.

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
Before, around at night and then she came back home.
I don't know, and we couldn't. We were flabbergasted. I
was like, what is she talking about? It was like,
she keeps saying it. I said, it's gotta be happening.
She can't be making this up. And I was like,
I just got scared. But she says she was on
the roof of the house, like sitting on a chimney
or something all night. And I'm like, what it's talking about?

(01:09:59):
You on the roof of the We had a we
were in a big house, and I was like, oh
my god.

Speaker 3 (01:10:04):
That scared me when she said that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
But anyway, uh, she the one morning or the one day,
she's sitting in her bed and she's I was I
was staying was in the bedroom with their mom and
she's sitting there and she said, hey, mom, you know what,
the past three or four days, I keep hearing these
little beeps and what do you call it? Uh? God

(01:10:32):
get it, she said, beeps and something else, these little
uh sounds she kept hearing outside of her window. Outside
she was hearing these little what do you call it? Like?
I don't know what you call it, but anyway, she says,
I keep keep hearing this, this pattern of these uh

(01:10:53):
little sounds. She kept hearings beeps and something else. And
she said, oh, it sounds like Morse code. Weird, not
even I don't know how. She was eight or nine.
I'm like, how do you know Morse code? I don't
even know Morse code? What are you talking about? And
she said it sounds like Morse code to me?

Speaker 3 (01:11:13):
And I'm like, I'm like, Laura.

Speaker 2 (01:11:16):
What is she doing about? And she's like, Mom, can
you give me a pen and some paper. I'm I'm
going to write down these Morse code these I don't
know what you call them, signals or whatever she was hearing.

Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
Yeah, it's usually thoughts and flashes is what they basically
use for Morse code. It's a series of beefs and
then a longer beaf which is like a dash, and
then basically you can tie that into the alphabet.

Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
Get this match. She I don't know if she looked
it up on the internet and she interpreted it.

Speaker 3 (01:11:53):
I forget how she did this.

Speaker 2 (01:11:55):
She came up guess what the Morse code was? And
I told my daughter denied it and the Morse code
was e T e T e T e T e
T and it kept going on. She's like she didn't
know what it was. She's like, this is this is
what it is. E T E T. She gave it

(01:12:17):
to Laura and I said, Laura, it says e T,
which stands for extraterrestrial and more. My daughter's like, no,
it doesn't mean alien. And I said, my daughter, she
should deny everything, Like Laura, it says e T. What
is E T stand for? It says e T e
T E T e T going on. E T E
T That was the code from a code And I said,

(01:12:40):
this has got to be uh uh uh what do
you call it?

Speaker 3 (01:12:47):
Not a sign from them?

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
Or uh what do you call it? Like recognition that
they're there or something.

Speaker 1 (01:12:54):
Yeah, maybe.

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
That's what it was, that's what she wrote down on
the paper, E T E T ET, and I kept
going on, et hm, that's all it was. It's just et.
When it went on, she said this is it, and
I was like what. She didn't know what it meant
until what it meant, but I was like, I was
just uh. I got kind of scared. I was like,

(01:13:21):
is this a message? I said, they're trying to tell
us something my daughter denies. She said, no, it doesn't
mean just really said that, what does it?

Speaker 3 (01:13:28):
What does it mean?

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
E T is.

Speaker 1 (01:13:32):
E t extraterrest? Really? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:13:35):
Yeah, so what does that mean?

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
Doesn't mean extra terrific, you know, Yeah, but I thought that.
I don't know. I was wondering why they were why
she was hearing it, because she asked us if we
were hearing anything, and we said no, and she said
I could hear it now. She said she heard she

(01:14:01):
heard it for like I don't know, three five days
in a row. It was outside her window. This is
during the day, and said, I don't he hear anything.
What are you hearing?

Speaker 1 (01:14:09):
Yeah, he said I can hear.

Speaker 2 (01:14:11):
It's very low, but she could hear something. And I
was like, well, this is really strange. And I don't
know why they let her hear it. I thought that
was odd, very odd.

Speaker 1 (01:14:29):
Yeah, there's gotta be some kind of message there.

Speaker 2 (01:14:34):
Yeah, that that hasn't happened again.

Speaker 1 (01:14:38):
Let's go all right, Laura. Well it's we're about an
hour and a half in now, we're gonna go ahead
and wrap this up, but we'll have you back on
for sure. Thank you so much for coming on today.
I appreciate it and sharing your stories. I know it
can't be easy to talk about all of these things
and you know, put yourself out there, but I do
appreciate you coming on.

Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
It's so hard to talk about I like talking about it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:01):
Okay, well it's kind of therapeutic, but it is very
interesting to hear all your stories. And again, I really
appreciate you coming on, and we will catch you on
the next one.

Speaker 2 (01:15:13):
Okay, sounds good.