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February 20, 2024 54 mins

Written into the DNA of American immigration policy, which we tend to regard as a kind of domestic policy - and which in many ways it is - has to do with US foreign policy.

Jonathan Blitzer

This episode was made in partnership with the Andrea Mitchell Center for the Study of Democracy.

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Jonathan Blitzer is a staff writer at The New Yorker. He won a 2017 National Award for Education Reporting for “American Studies,” a story about an underground school for undocumented immigrants. His writing and reporting have also appeared in the New York Times, The Atlantic, The Atavist, Oxford American, and The Nation. He is an Emerson Fellow at New America. His most recent book is Everyone Who Is Gone Is Here: The United States, Central America, and the Making of a Crisis.

Key Highlights

  • Introduction - 0:20
  • Personal Experiences - 3:12
  • Immigration and Foreign Policy - 12:25
  • Migration as a Crisis - 31:20
  • Bukele and El Salvador Today - 46:26

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Everyone Who Is Gone Is Here: The United States, Central America, and the Making of a Crisis by Jonathan Blitzer

“Do I Have to Come Here Injured or Dead?” by Jonathan Blitzer in The New Yorker

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