April 10, 2025 • 23 mins
Love ‘em or hate ‘em, everyone’s got opinions on tattoos—including us. In today’s episode, Joey and Emma talk about the tattoos they just got, their favorite kinds of shops, second skin, styles they’re into, and more. Saddle up, cowboys—this one’s full of hot takes we’re not sure you’re ready for.
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Welcome to another Demon Babieepisode.
You're sitting here with me,Demon of Hollywood, Joey
Lombardo and emp MTV's favoritehost, Blond Babie, aka Emma
Nilsson.
Welcome to the show.
Today's, great topic.
It's tattoos.
Tattoo.
Tattoos, everything we can thinkof.
And not not everything.
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Everything.
Like 20 minutes topics.
20 topics in 20 minutes.
We're going to get you out ofhere under 30.
Don't worry.
Welcome.
Welcome to the episode.
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So, did you like my intro?
I did nice.
Yeah.
I am MTV's favorite host.
Yeah, I'm keeping you on yourtoes with this.
You know.
I appreciate it.
Yeah, and that would be reallyfunny.
Like, imagine me hosting MTV'scribs, dead channel, dead
channel.
But it'd be.
That's what would make it evenbetter.
Like Dead Channel.
Yet, you become the host of itto be kind of funny.
Only good if you revive itthough.
(01:04):
Otherwise.
Otherwise, yeah.
It's like okay.
I mean, obviously I'm going torevive it.
HELLO.
Jobs, a job.
Adopts a job.
You’re the next Carmen Electra.
That would be so iconic.
Alright.
Well we're going to get to yourtopic first.
So first topic.
How do you likeyour new tattoos.
Oh first topic we've gotten newtattoos recently.
Wow.
Personal topic.
Yeah.
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Why not I love mine.
There's an issue with it though.
OOO I haven’t even told youthis.
No.
So I got a belly tat.
belly tat.
Okay.
And the problem with the bellytat is it's it's on my stomach
and it goes, you know, it's aslut tat.
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Yeah, I'm, I am, who I am, I'mjust a man.
it’s a slut tat and the tailof the scorpion kind of curves
into my pants.
But if I have any sort ofstomach, it really exaggerates
any sort of line out of.
So I really gotta keep thingstight.
You know?
You didn't think about that.
I gotta think keep things realtight, or I'm going to be
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looking at a real big boy.
Real fast.
But yeah, so it's fine.
I still like my tattoo.
I think it looks pretty cool.
And I want to get more.
So, how do you like yourtattoos?
I'm very happy.
How many did you get?
Just last week.
I got two weeks ago.
I got three.
I got my rose.
I got my chaos.
And I got a little starburst.
Sun burst on my chest.
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That's my favorite one.
I feel like it's really cool,and like it added.
That was a good move.
Thank you.
I'm very happy with it.
Yeah.
I feel like it really is likeboom it is a starburst.
So there you go.
It should be next topic.
The check-in experience.
The worst I a.
Nine eight out of ten times.
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It sucks.
I don't understand why a tattoocheck-in is always the weirdest
process in the world I go to.
So many appointments to get myhair done, nails done.
Doctors, doctors, dentistdoctors are also the worst.
Don't give them any credit.
But most other appointments,they're like, oh okay, good
to see you.
Let them know you're here.
Go sit and wait.
They'll come get you in a minuteor two.
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It could be an hour,could be a minute.
You don't know.
They might not have it drawn.
They might not have it ready.
They might come over.
I'm really good to see ya.
I'll catch ya.
Goes to the back again.
It's insane.
I think when it's like that,I think it's a day we're going
to need a tattoo artistto answer.
I think it's undrawn because mylast tattoo, she had it drawn.
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She was ready, I went, I gotmy ID, sign the paper got right
back there, boom, bam, boom.
One of the fastest, bestexperiences of my tattooing,
cuz.
So I'm going to give it aneight out ten times.
It sucks.
But when it's nice, it's kind ofnice.
You're like, oh, we got itfigured out today.
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Yeah well that's nice.
See, my last one was finebecause we kind of know each
other already.
So we had we like finishedlunch, chatted, picked out the
designs, sized, and we weredoing multiple to so we're
figuring out a couple of things,you know.
Yeah.
So I was fine and I knew him.
So it's not like I had to checkin process.
It was a little different.
Yeah, but when it's someone youdon't know and the check ins
shit, you're like, what ishappening?
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I'm literally the thebiggest one.
I had this one.
I was so confused the entiretime.
I so yeah, you're.
You're just sitting in the likelittle waiting area, like,
what do I do?
Where’d they go?
It was crazy.
Beautiful tattoo turned outgreat.
But the waiting process, theespecially when I was asking how
long it was going to take.
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And then she was like, oh, Idon't know.
I'm like the purgatory ofsitting and waiting for
your tattoo.
Oh no, that's the problem.
Or they take an unannouncedlunch break when they're like,
all right, we're going totake a break.
And you think it's five minutes.
And then you turn around andthey're eating dinner and
you're.
oh during check in.
No, no, no, no.
You're halfway throughthe tattoo.
No no no, that's not to checkin.
All right.
Fine.
No, fine I will not have noncheck and talk on my topic of
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check in.
Sorry.
Next topic.
Next topic.
You're trying to kill yourself.
Editing later.
Next topic.
The midway break.
How do you feel about that?
I see if I was a tattoo artist.
I'm such a psycho, I feel likeI would try and do no breaks.
Let's just get this done as fastas possible.
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But there's also tattoos thatyou can't do that.
Yeah, they need food.
You should probably eat.
Yeah.
All that.
You're stabbing someone forhours and hours and hours.
But anything under four hours,I think have your food done with
already.
If it's going to be over fourhours, tell the person so
they have an idea of how longthey're going to be there.
Don't just not say it.
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I think the problem is notsetting expectations.
Because if you tell them, hey,probably gonna be eight hours,
we're probably going to break,probably grab dinner and then
circle back.
It really sounds like you don'tlike getting tattooed.
I love getting tattoos.
Okay.
But I just had one really toughexperience where I was starving.
I didn't know she was goingto be having dinner.
I was like oh you don't.
Really know if you can step inand you want to be done.
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And are we, we're, we'rewrapping up.
Right.
Yeah.
I was like I thought it wasgonna be another hour.
It was another three.
Yeah.
Yeah, it was tough.
But other than that, I've alwaysbeen fine.
But I just say set expectations.
Okay.
Next topic.
Tattoo shop decor.
So funny.
I love it, I love it I love.
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If it doesn't match your vibe.
You got to find a tattoo shop.
That does.
Yeah.
That's I think a very good rule.
Get it?
Go to a shop that you're like,okay, if I was going to decorate
this place.
It's going this route.
Can I say I really love like theold school, like classic LA
tattoo shops, like.
that’s what I go to.
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I, I love it.
I know they're like a littlegrunge year and like, more
intimidating for women, butI really love it.
Like, I just think they're cool.
I love the classic vibe of it.
I love everything about it.
It's got the charm of a divebar.
Yeah, it does.
The same exact energy.
The everyone loves a dive bar.
Everyone loves a charming tattooshop.
Yeah, that's got all thetraditional everywhere.
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And, you know, naked chicks inthe bathroom and all that stuff.
Yeah.
It's very cool.
It's necessary.
It is?
Yeah, yeah.
Next topic.
Traditional tattoos.
Traditional tattoos.
You.
I feel like so many people hatetraditional tattoos.
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And then once you start gettingtattoos, you only get three
tattoos.
You go, I understand.
Yeah.
The thick lines, they'renot fading.
I imagine they I don't have oneyet.
I'd like to get one, but Iimagine they don't take that
long in general compared tosomething that someone's doing.
(07:49):
Single needle everything, youknow.
Yeah.
So the more tattoos I get, themore I understand traditional
and the more respect it's gainedin my life.
And I think most people that gettattoos go that route.
Yeah, I agree, I mean, even ifthey don't end up getting it,
I think mentally they have a lotof respect for it.
I mean, single needles areone thing, but traditional is
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like six needles got hammeringinto you all at once.
So it's going to be a differentvibe than getting a single
needle tattoo innately.
Any time there's more inkgetting laid down, the more
respect you get out of me.
Yeah, I'm always like, lookat how much ink you have.
Like a blackout tattoo.
Oh my God, you're fuckingpsycho.
Wait.
Next topic.
Black out.
Tattoo, black out tattoos.
I love them.
I wish I could get them.
I don't think I'm strong enough.
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There's a I remember I told you,this guy at my gym.
That has it.
I saw him again.
He's old man.
I realized.
He's probably like 75 and he'sgot a full sleeve of, like, that
Machine Gun Kelly with just afew spaces.
I mean, I love that.
I think it's like the armor workis cool.
It looks so cool.
Yeah.
And then he has some tattoosunder it because he was next
to me on the treadmills.
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Yeah.
I was like, wow, look at hisarm.
That thing's crazy.
Yeah.
Blackout tattoos.
Especially when it's like, builtlike armor.
I'm like, oh, that's coolbecause you really use it to
your body shapes and stuff.
And that's what I really like.
I'm like, oh, you're advancing.
It's not just like, I don'tknow, it's different.
It's not just something like a.
You're wearing it like jewelry,cool frog.
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It's an accessory.
Yeah.
It's more of a part of you.
Yeah.
Which is cool.
Yeah.
Agreed.
Next topic.
Party tats.
Yeah, I like party tats.
You get party tats.
I get you, you don't get partytats.
I'm going to start getting moreparty tats.
Every time I see a party tat,I'm going to get it.
Have you had a party tat?
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No, no, not part of life.
It's surprising.
I don't have a party tat.
No.
I feel like your tattoos arevery curated to a certain
esthetic, so, I don't know.
I like it looks cool.
Mine are more like patchwork,like, you know, stamps.
Yeah.
So.
Yeah it it fits your vibe Itdoes.
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I like my party tats.
I think they're fun.
But I also am specific about myparty tat.
Well you’re Getting girly party.
Tats.
I'm getting girly party tats,and I'm kind of checking
the vibe to make sure I'm notgoing to get infection.
What about the lip party tat?
Not going to do it.
It's I mean respect to those whodo.
Yeah I love the grind.
Yeah.
If you're in the lip party tatyou're pretty lit.
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You're it you're probably a goodhang.
Yeah.
Or terrible and.
But no no no no they seem like areally fun.
No.
They can be terrible too.
I have only met very fun girlsthat have their lip tattooed.
Oh.
How did you find out their liptattoo.
They show me.
Pervert.
Yeah.
Next topic tramp stamps.
Oh, let's just make this abigger topic of slut tats.
Okay?
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I love slutty tattoos.
What are other slutty tattoosthan a tramp stamp?
The male version, which is belowthe belly button.
Which you have.
Yeah, well, I'm waiting foryou to get a tramp stamp to
match my freak.
Loading.
Here's me getting my trampstamp.
Yeah.
What else?
I think, booty tattoos areslutty.
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Yeah, I would get, like, alittle hip booty one.
I feel like that'd be reallycute.
I like the front of the hip,too.
That would be cute.
What about like inner thigh?
I feel like that's kind of.
That's not.
I mean, I feel like that'd becrazy if you just have something
on your inner thigh.
Right?
Yeah.
I'd be like, oh, you are like,you were just trying to fuck the
tattoo artist.
I think you're like, hey,put my lips to the side and,
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put a butterfly down there.
Oh my God.
I mean, inner thigh.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
Next topic that was mine.
I said tramp stamps.
Stencils.
What?
Stencils?
What do you mean.
The stencil process.
How many times are you allowedto ask for a stencil to get
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renewed?
Re-placed down, I mean.
As many times do you need it?
Because you're going to have itfor the rest of your life?
That's true.
How many times couldcourageously you ask for it
to be done?
I've had the most stencilsredone in my life when I got
the one on my chest.
But it was because it's such asmall thing and it's like, yeah.
It's a cross.
It's basically.
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Yeah, it's a cross.
Your crusader, it's fine.
Yeah.
So it had to be perfect.
I think we did it like fivetimes.
No.
Yeah, yeah.
Way.
That's crazy.
But off of your recommendationare theirs.
His yeah.
Okay.
That makes it better I think ifsomeone asks more than three
times, they're never going to behappy with it.
(12:24):
No.
Yeah.
It was 4 or 5.
I don't remember because we wereso like, oh.
I, It was good.
It worked out like it got there.
But this was also super specificand it's not super specific like
this.
And you're going wa wa wa onsomething.
It doesn't need to be deadcenter, like,
what are you doing?
I'm sure it looks great.
(12:44):
I have never second, second.
Second stenciled ever stenciledever.
I also had a second stencilon this one because it had to
match up around the wrist.
Yeah.
And the first time we missed.
So that one took two.
I don't think any of my others.
I second stenciled.
I’m a one and done.
Yeah.
(13:04):
We're going for it.
Yeah.
I don't think any of my otherstook more than one try.
But my Scorpion stencilsawesome.
Because I did have it make sureit was straight with my penis.
Yeah, part of the tattoo artistrecommendation.
And I was like, appreciate you.
Yeah, yeah.
I cannot think of.
Yeah or anything.
Think of that.
Like getting the bathroom.
Go check it for the thoroughstraight down there.
Wait, so what do you think thelimit is?
How many times?
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I mean, I want to say three, butrealistically, I could never ask
more than twice.
Yeah.
Twice.
I'm like, okay,this is our third time I got
just go for it.
Yeah, maybe I'm too nervousto get the tattoo at that point.
You know, I don't know.
I don't know I yeah, I thinkif you ask more than three
times, you'll never be happywith the placement and your.
(13:47):
What.
Yeah.
Just will always complain aboutit.
I can't say that because but Ididn't ask, I guess.
And you're happy with it?
Oh I'm stoked.
So.
Yeah, if you ask for it morethan three times.
Yeah I wasn't asking.
Exactly.
So next upping cyber sigilismCyber sigilism.
I've only I had something to sayabout this.
I think it's so funny.
I feel like that was so popularfor people to hate on, on TikTok
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like last year.
And I feel like to this day,I've never seen one in person.
Yeah, we've seen it in person.
Who.
That that guy---- Friends with-------- Oh, yeah.
You're right.
Yeah.
So we have the in person.
(14:28):
Emma blur those names out.
So, yeah, we have seen those inperson, and, it's fine.
I, I think if you treat it kindof like the armor work of, like,
a blackout tattoo.
I really like it, and I'm finewith it, but I.
It's just not going to last.
I don't think so.
Like, with age or sunlight, butI really don't care if you want
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to look like that right now.
Look like that right now.
Look however you want.
That's the point of a tattoo.
Just sort of, we're all going tolook gross when we're older.
It doesn't really matter ifI have blotches on my skin
that I liked for years.
Yeah.
So whatever.
Moisturize tattoos when you'reold.
Next topic Tattoos when you'reold I love them.
I love seeing old peopletattoos.
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I'm like, you're fun.
Yeah.
You're fun.
I've never seen an old personwith tattoos.
That isn't a fun, silly time.
I've never seen an old person ontattoos that
go (15:19):
Wow.
Regret.
They always are.
Like, yeah, fucking ride or die.
Let it rip.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Old people with tattoos.
It's pretty cool.
I imagine if I have kids,they'll be like my dad's pretty
cool looking hopefully.
Well I don't think they'll belike oh look at that dork with,
reptiles all over him.
They might, they might, theymight, they might.
(15:40):
See you just through me.
You just said it.
Yeah.
Look at that science nerd.
He's obsessed with evolution.
Documented.
They’ll be like dork.
Yeah, They’ll be
like (15:48):
Why’s mom got 18 butterflies on her?
Bisexual.
Kids.
Mom is bisexual.
It's obvious.
What's the most next topic?
What's the most bisexual woman?
Tattoo moth.
Moth Did you know that?
I mean, I did know that, butwhat's your answer?
Butterfly.
Okay, there you go.
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You think it's butterfly?
I think moths are gross.
You don't like moths?
No.
I was kind of traumatized by themoths when I lived in Mexico.
So.
OH, tell me how you'retraumatized by a moth in Mexico.
There are so many that werealways living around the room
I lived in, and they were like,this big, And they scared
the shit out of me.
I'm not good with bugswhich is ironic that I like
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butterflies.
It's like butterflies andladybugs about all I like.
Do you even like butterflies?
Yes.
One flies on you, you'll..
Yeah I’m Cool.
All right, you're chilling.
I don't like dragonflies.
Really?
No.
They freak me out.
Why?
Alright.
You hear them?
Freaks me out.
They get an audio system.
I'm fucked.
I'm running.
They're pretty though.
Like a picture is cool.
(16:51):
A picture of a dragon fly.
Yeah.
All right.
As long as you're not seeingthem.
It's my Tism.
Yeah it is.
it is.
It's showing.
Next topic.
Shucks.
Laying down or sitting up fora tattoo?
I personally prefer to sit up.
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But I get why they’ll have youlay down.
Because I feel like you're like,you're kind of forced to stay
more still.
Yeah.
Like you're moving around alittle more.
You like drinking water, you'reon your phone when you’re
sitting.
I prefer to lay down, butI'm a boy, so maybe that's where
gender matters.
Maybe I'd prefer to sit.
(17:34):
But I'll do whatever they tellme.
I like to lay down.
I feel like I'm out of their wayand they can just, Man
manhandle.
You manhandle me around.
Yeah.
Real sub when you're gettingtattooed.
Yeah.
Speaking of sub, the, wipe off,Yeah I’ve never had a huge issue
(17:57):
with it, but I feel like.
No, I did with the big one.
I have so painful.
I think it depends howmuch, time you kind of spent in
the chair.
Oh, yeah.
How painful it’s going to be.
How much they've been drillinginto you and all that stuff.
Yeah, I that one was bad.
My last ones were pretty fine.
The chest one hurt.
But he also goes spraying youwith alcohol this time.
(18:18):
Okay.
Yeah.
So that one sucked.
Sometimes you just lay in thereand they didn't have a paper
towel ready and you're like,I hate when my man cums in me
like this.
And it's just, like, seeping allover you.
Oh, yeah.
How's the wipe off for you?
Same.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, I think that's prettyuniversal experience.
It can really hurtif they really fuck with you.
(18:39):
Tell your wipe off story fromKorea.
Oh, yeah.
I just got sprayed with alcohol.
So, after four hours of astomach tattoo.
Yeah.
And then she didn't want to.
Five.
Hours clean you.
Up in the chair for five hours,and, she didn't shave me.
She just started going, and she,no breaks.
Five hours, stomach tat and thenalcohol spray off, and,
(19:02):
why would you want a secondskin?
Why do you want to wrap?
Oh, you want to wrap?
Okay, pussy.
She call me a pussy straightto my face.
Yeah.
Next topic.
Travel tattoos.
Oh, okay.
I love travel tattoos, butthey're.
I feel like I'm always a littlehesitant because I don't.
I want to see the place I'mgoing to.
(19:23):
So I think my travel tattoo issmarter than your travel to
tattoos.
Mine is smaller.
And it does depend where I go.
I want the place to be clean.
So, like, I'll.
I'll sus that out before I getto the place.
I’m less likely to do a walk inbecause don't know what I'm
getting myself into.
I see.
You know.
The only problem for me with atravel tattoo is probably on
vacation then, and I probablywant to get into some sort of
(19:45):
body of water, so I have to planaround that.
But if you're not at a placewhere you're getting in a body
of water, is it okay?
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Okay.
I mean, I wish I got morewhen I was in, I wish I got one
when I was in Japan and.
I know.
Europe.
I wish I got few, but, we don'tknow.
I support travel tattoos, butyou really have to plan around
(20:07):
the water activities.
Yeah, you really do.
That's the problem.
Unless you want to ruin it.
Unless I don't.
I don't want to ruin them.
A lot of people do.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Next topic.
Your turn.
Second skin love second.
Skin love love second skin.
I don't know why some peoplehate it.
I mean, I don't either.
I mean, let you have an inksack.
That's cool.
(20:27):
When else see you, thenyou have an octopus for like
a day.
You have an ink sack.
You get to look at that.
You just are fine.
I mean, what's the issue?
Unless you're having some weirdallergic reaction to it, that's
the problem.
I mean, it kind of hurts totake off sometimes.
Matters how big the tattoo is.
It's like ripping off aBand-Aid.
(20:48):
Yeah, I'd rather have that thansome weird, like, Saran wrap
situation that's not reallydoing much Saran wrap.
The germs can seep into it.
Yeah, I feel like it's so muchsafer.
Amazing.
I'm like, every wound should belike this.
Yes, I.
I agree.
Put it everywhere.
Put it all over me.
Cover me into it.
(21:09):
So the second skin.
Oh next topic okay people thatthis isn't common but people
that get put under to get likehuge tattoos.
Gay.
Lame.
Lame.
Oh, losers.
Yeah, I'm fine with numbingcream, but I'm not okay if
you're getting fully put down.
Like, bro, I.
Don't have that many tattoos.
(21:30):
both of us.
We really don't compare toa lot of people.
But you can't be puttingyourself under.
That's criminal.
That's crazy.
It seems so silly.
I mean, and it's so many ofthese, like, pro athletes
that are doing it, and I'm like,you guys are so like alpha, like
pro athletes, like, don'tyou want to be like and
everyone knows you like if I didthat, like NDAs all around,
(21:52):
like, nobody's knowing that Ijust had to go under for this.
But everybody knows because youliterally one day have nothing
At that point its genderaffirming surgery.
Yeah.
You want everyone to see you acertain way.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And you had to get put under forit.
Yeah.
Because you literallythey always have nothing.
And then they come out literallyneck down tattoos.
And I'm just like, it’s gottahurt the next day.
(22:14):
I mean it probably still is somuch.
Pain 100%.
So much body healing.
Oh, yeah.
You're back.
You backs gotta I feel likeshit.
But, like, I don't know how youkeep that clean.
You just try.
You have to have somebody helpyou.
I don't really know how you doa back tat.
Yeah, clean back tat or anythinglike that.
No, because I don't have thatmany tattoos.
And I probably shouldn't betalking about this topic, but
(22:34):
whatever.
Here we are.
Here we are.
We like tattoos.
And we like topics.
And I think that's all of it.
That's a pretty good rundown.
I mean, we can always come back.
I think next time we're goingto do this, we're going to get a
numbing cream sponsor andget tattoos while we podcast,
which might be hard mic wise Butwe'll figure that out down the
(22:55):
road.
Yeah.
I mean we'll get a little clipmix and then we'll just talk.
But we'll get some tattooartists that want to come and
do it and it’ll be fun.
listen to our stupid.
No they'll contribute.
They'll talk.
We gotta mic them up or arewe just going to hand over.
Probably just hand it.
We'll get into the detailson our own time.
Not yours.
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Welcome to another Demon Babieepisode.
You're sitting here with me,Demon of Hollywood, Joey
Lombardo and emp MTV's favoritehost, Blond Babie, aka Emma
Nilsson.
Welcome to the show.
Today's, great topic.
It's tattoos.
Tattoo.
Tattoos, everything we can thinkof.
And not not everything.
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Everything.
Like 20 minutes topics.
20 topics in 20 minutes.
We're going to get you out ofhere under 30.
Don't worry.
Welcome.
Welcome to the episode.
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So, did you like my intro?
I did nice.
Yeah.
I am MTV's favorite host.
Yeah, I'm keeping you on yourtoes with this.
You know.
I appreciate it.
Yeah, and that would be reallyfunny.
Like, imagine me hosting MTV'scribs, dead channel, dead
channel.
But it'd be.
That's what would make it evenbetter.
Like Dead Channel.
Yet, you become the host of itto be kind of funny.
Only good if you revive itthough.
(01:04):
Otherwise.
Otherwise, yeah.
It's like okay.
I mean, obviously I'm going torevive it.
HELLO.
Jobs, a job.
Adopts a job.
You’re the next Carmen Electra.
That would be so iconic.
Alright.
Well we're going to get to yourtopic first.
So first topic.
How do you likeyour new tattoos.
Oh first topic we've gotten newtattoos recently.
Wow.
Personal topic.
Yeah.
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Why not I love mine.
There's an issue with it though.
OOO I haven’t even told youthis.
No.
So I got a belly tat.
belly tat.
Okay.
And the problem with the bellytat is it's it's on my stomach
and it goes, you know, it's aslut tat.
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Yeah, I'm, I am, who I am, I'mjust a man.
it’s a slut tat and the tailof the scorpion kind of curves
into my pants.
But if I have any sort ofstomach, it really exaggerates
any sort of line out of.
So I really gotta keep thingstight.
You know?
You didn't think about that.
I gotta think keep things realtight, or I'm going to be
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looking at a real big boy.
Real fast.
But yeah, so it's fine.
I still like my tattoo.
I think it looks pretty cool.
And I want to get more.
So, how do you like yourtattoos?
I'm very happy.
How many did you get?
Just last week.
I got two weeks ago.
I got three.
I got my rose.
I got my chaos.
And I got a little starburst.
Sun burst on my chest.
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That's my favorite one.
I feel like it's really cool,and like it added.
That was a good move.
Thank you.
I'm very happy with it.
Yeah.
I feel like it really is likeboom it is a starburst.
So there you go.
It should be next topic.
The check-in experience.
The worst I a.
Nine eight out of ten times.
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It sucks.
I don't understand why a tattoocheck-in is always the weirdest
process in the world I go to.
So many appointments to get myhair done, nails done.
Doctors, doctors, dentistdoctors are also the worst.
Don't give them any credit.
But most other appointments,they're like, oh okay, good
to see you.
Let them know you're here.
Go sit and wait.
They'll come get you in a minuteor two.
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It could be an hour,could be a minute.
You don't know.
They might not have it drawn.
They might not have it ready.
They might come over.
I'm really good to see ya.
I'll catch ya.
Goes to the back again.
It's insane.
I think when it's like that,I think it's a day we're going
to need a tattoo artistto answer.
I think it's undrawn because mylast tattoo, she had it drawn.
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She was ready, I went, I gotmy ID, sign the paper got right
back there, boom, bam, boom.
One of the fastest, bestexperiences of my tattooing,
cuz.
So I'm going to give it aneight out ten times.
It sucks.
But when it's nice, it's kind ofnice.
You're like, oh, we got itfigured out today.
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Yeah well that's nice.
See, my last one was finebecause we kind of know each
other already.
So we had we like finishedlunch, chatted, picked out the
designs, sized, and we weredoing multiple to so we're
figuring out a couple of things,you know.
Yeah.
So I was fine and I knew him.
So it's not like I had to checkin process.
It was a little different.
Yeah, but when it's someone youdon't know and the check ins
shit, you're like, what ishappening?
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I'm literally the thebiggest one.
I had this one.
I was so confused the entiretime.
I so yeah, you're.
You're just sitting in the likelittle waiting area, like,
what do I do?
Where’d they go?
It was crazy.
Beautiful tattoo turned outgreat.
But the waiting process, theespecially when I was asking how
long it was going to take.
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And then she was like, oh, Idon't know.
I'm like the purgatory ofsitting and waiting for
your tattoo.
Oh no, that's the problem.
Or they take an unannouncedlunch break when they're like,
all right, we're going totake a break.
And you think it's five minutes.
And then you turn around andthey're eating dinner and
you're.
oh during check in.
No, no, no, no.
You're halfway throughthe tattoo.
No no no, that's not to checkin.
All right.
Fine.
No, fine I will not have noncheck and talk on my topic of
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check in.
Sorry.
Next topic.
Next topic.
You're trying to kill yourself.
Editing later.
Next topic.
The midway break.
How do you feel about that?
I see if I was a tattoo artist.
I'm such a psycho, I feel likeI would try and do no breaks.
Let's just get this done as fastas possible.
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But there's also tattoos thatyou can't do that.
Yeah, they need food.
You should probably eat.
Yeah.
All that.
You're stabbing someone forhours and hours and hours.
But anything under four hours,I think have your food done with
already.
If it's going to be over fourhours, tell the person so
they have an idea of how longthey're going to be there.
Don't just not say it.
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I think the problem is notsetting expectations.
Because if you tell them, hey,probably gonna be eight hours,
we're probably going to break,probably grab dinner and then
circle back.
It really sounds like you don'tlike getting tattooed.
I love getting tattoos.
Okay.
But I just had one really toughexperience where I was starving.
I didn't know she was goingto be having dinner.
I was like oh you don't.
Really know if you can step inand you want to be done.
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And are we, we're, we'rewrapping up.
Right.
Yeah.
I was like I thought it wasgonna be another hour.
It was another three.
Yeah.
Yeah, it was tough.
But other than that, I've alwaysbeen fine.
But I just say set expectations.
Okay.
Next topic.
Tattoo shop decor.
So funny.
I love it, I love it I love.
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If it doesn't match your vibe.
You got to find a tattoo shop.
That does.
Yeah.
That's I think a very good rule.
Get it?
Go to a shop that you're like,okay, if I was going to decorate
this place.
It's going this route.
Can I say I really love like theold school, like classic LA
tattoo shops, like.
that’s what I go to.
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I, I love it.
I know they're like a littlegrunge year and like, more
intimidating for women, butI really love it.
Like, I just think they're cool.
I love the classic vibe of it.
I love everything about it.
It's got the charm of a divebar.
Yeah, it does.
The same exact energy.
The everyone loves a dive bar.
Everyone loves a charming tattooshop.
Yeah, that's got all thetraditional everywhere.
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And, you know, naked chicks inthe bathroom and all that stuff.
Yeah.
It's very cool.
It's necessary.
It is?
Yeah, yeah.
Next topic.
Traditional tattoos.
Traditional tattoos.
You.
I feel like so many people hatetraditional tattoos.
(07:29):
And then once you start gettingtattoos, you only get three
tattoos.
You go, I understand.
Yeah.
The thick lines, they'renot fading.
I imagine they I don't have oneyet.
I'd like to get one, but Iimagine they don't take that
long in general compared tosomething that someone's doing.
(07:49):
Single needle everything, youknow.
Yeah.
So the more tattoos I get, themore I understand traditional
and the more respect it's gainedin my life.
And I think most people that gettattoos go that route.
Yeah, I agree, I mean, even ifthey don't end up getting it,
I think mentally they have a lotof respect for it.
I mean, single needles areone thing, but traditional is
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like six needles got hammeringinto you all at once.
So it's going to be a differentvibe than getting a single
needle tattoo innately.
Any time there's more inkgetting laid down, the more
respect you get out of me.
Yeah, I'm always like, lookat how much ink you have.
Like a blackout tattoo.
Oh my God, you're fuckingpsycho.
Wait.
Next topic.
Black out.
Tattoo, black out tattoos.
I love them.
I wish I could get them.
I don't think I'm strong enough.
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There's a I remember I told you,this guy at my gym.
That has it.
I saw him again.
He's old man.
I realized.
He's probably like 75 and he'sgot a full sleeve of, like, that
Machine Gun Kelly with just afew spaces.
I mean, I love that.
I think it's like the armor workis cool.
It looks so cool.
Yeah.
And then he has some tattoosunder it because he was next
to me on the treadmills.
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Yeah.
I was like, wow, look at hisarm.
That thing's crazy.
Yeah.
Blackout tattoos.
Especially when it's like, builtlike armor.
I'm like, oh, that's coolbecause you really use it to
your body shapes and stuff.
And that's what I really like.
I'm like, oh, you're advancing.
It's not just like, I don'tknow, it's different.
It's not just something like a.
You're wearing it like jewelry,cool frog.
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It's an accessory.
Yeah.
It's more of a part of you.
Yeah.
Which is cool.
Yeah.
Agreed.
Next topic.
Party tats.
Yeah, I like party tats.
You get party tats.
I get you, you don't get partytats.
I'm going to start getting moreparty tats.
Every time I see a party tat,I'm going to get it.
Have you had a party tat?
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No, no, not part of life.
It's surprising.
I don't have a party tat.
No.
I feel like your tattoos arevery curated to a certain
esthetic, so, I don't know.
I like it looks cool.
Mine are more like patchwork,like, you know, stamps.
Yeah.
So.
Yeah it it fits your vibe Itdoes.
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I like my party tats.
I think they're fun.
But I also am specific about myparty tat.
Well you’re Getting girly party.
Tats.
I'm getting girly party tats,and I'm kind of checking
the vibe to make sure I'm notgoing to get infection.
What about the lip party tat?
Not going to do it.
It's I mean respect to those whodo.
Yeah I love the grind.
Yeah.
If you're in the lip party tatyou're pretty lit.
(10:15):
You're it you're probably a goodhang.
Yeah.
Or terrible and.
But no no no no they seem like areally fun.
No.
They can be terrible too.
I have only met very fun girlsthat have their lip tattooed.
Oh.
How did you find out their liptattoo.
They show me.
Pervert.
Yeah.
Next topic tramp stamps.
Oh, let's just make this abigger topic of slut tats.
Okay?
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I love slutty tattoos.
What are other slutty tattoosthan a tramp stamp?
The male version, which is belowthe belly button.
Which you have.
Yeah, well, I'm waiting foryou to get a tramp stamp to
match my freak.
Loading.
Here's me getting my trampstamp.
Yeah.
What else?
I think, booty tattoos areslutty.
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Yeah, I would get, like, alittle hip booty one.
I feel like that'd be reallycute.
I like the front of the hip,too.
That would be cute.
What about like inner thigh?
I feel like that's kind of.
That's not.
I mean, I feel like that'd becrazy if you just have something
on your inner thigh.
Right?
Yeah.
I'd be like, oh, you are like,you were just trying to fuck the
tattoo artist.
I think you're like, hey,put my lips to the side and,
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put a butterfly down there.
Oh my God.
I mean, inner thigh.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
Next topic that was mine.
I said tramp stamps.
Stencils.
What?
Stencils?
What do you mean.
The stencil process.
How many times are you allowedto ask for a stencil to get
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renewed?
Re-placed down, I mean.
As many times do you need it?
Because you're going to have itfor the rest of your life?
That's true.
How many times couldcourageously you ask for it
to be done?
I've had the most stencilsredone in my life when I got
the one on my chest.
But it was because it's such asmall thing and it's like, yeah.
It's a cross.
It's basically.
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Yeah, it's a cross.
Your crusader, it's fine.
Yeah.
So it had to be perfect.
I think we did it like fivetimes.
No.
Yeah, yeah.
Way.
That's crazy.
But off of your recommendationare theirs.
His yeah.
Okay.
That makes it better I think ifsomeone asks more than three
times, they're never going to behappy with it.
(12:24):
No.
Yeah.
It was 4 or 5.
I don't remember because we wereso like, oh.
I, It was good.
It worked out like it got there.
But this was also super specificand it's not super specific like
this.
And you're going wa wa wa onsomething.
It doesn't need to be deadcenter, like,
what are you doing?
I'm sure it looks great.
(12:44):
I have never second, second.
Second stenciled ever stenciledever.
I also had a second stencilon this one because it had to
match up around the wrist.
Yeah.
And the first time we missed.
So that one took two.
I don't think any of my others.
I second stenciled.
I’m a one and done.
Yeah.
(13:04):
We're going for it.
Yeah.
I don't think any of my otherstook more than one try.
But my Scorpion stencilsawesome.
Because I did have it make sureit was straight with my penis.
Yeah, part of the tattoo artistrecommendation.
And I was like, appreciate you.
Yeah, yeah.
I cannot think of.
Yeah or anything.
Think of that.
Like getting the bathroom.
Go check it for the thoroughstraight down there.
Wait, so what do you think thelimit is?
How many times?
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I mean, I want to say three, butrealistically, I could never ask
more than twice.
Yeah.
Twice.
I'm like, okay,this is our third time I got
just go for it.
Yeah, maybe I'm too nervousto get the tattoo at that point.
You know, I don't know.
I don't know I yeah, I thinkif you ask more than three
times, you'll never be happywith the placement and your.
(13:47):
What.
Yeah.
Just will always complain aboutit.
I can't say that because but Ididn't ask, I guess.
And you're happy with it?
Oh I'm stoked.
So.
Yeah, if you ask for it morethan three times.
Yeah I wasn't asking.
Exactly.
So next upping cyber sigilismCyber sigilism.
I've only I had something to sayabout this.
I think it's so funny.
I feel like that was so popularfor people to hate on, on TikTok
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like last year.
And I feel like to this day,I've never seen one in person.
Yeah, we've seen it in person.
Who.
That that guy---- Friends with-------- Oh, yeah.
You're right.
Yeah.
So we have the in person.
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Emma blur those names out.
So, yeah, we have seen those inperson, and, it's fine.
I, I think if you treat it kindof like the armor work of, like,
a blackout tattoo.
I really like it, and I'm finewith it, but I.
It's just not going to last.
I don't think so.
Like, with age or sunlight, butI really don't care if you want
(14:51):
to look like that right now.
Look like that right now.
Look however you want.
That's the point of a tattoo.
Just sort of, we're all going tolook gross when we're older.
It doesn't really matter ifI have blotches on my skin
that I liked for years.
Yeah.
So whatever.
Moisturize tattoos when you'reold.
Next topic Tattoos when you'reold I love them.
I love seeing old peopletattoos.
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I'm like, you're fun.
Yeah.
You're fun.
I've never seen an old personwith tattoos.
That isn't a fun, silly time.
I've never seen an old person ontattoos that
go (15:19):
Wow.
Regret.
They always are.
Like, yeah, fucking ride or die.
Let it rip.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Old people with tattoos.
It's pretty cool.
I imagine if I have kids,they'll be like my dad's pretty
cool looking hopefully.
Well I don't think they'll belike oh look at that dork with,
reptiles all over him.
They might, they might, theymight, they might.
(15:40):
See you just through me.
You just said it.
Yeah.
Look at that science nerd.
He's obsessed with evolution.
Documented.
They’ll be like dork.
Yeah, They’ll be
like (15:48):
Why’s mom got 18 butterflies on her?
Bisexual.
Kids.
Mom is bisexual.
It's obvious.
What's the most next topic?
What's the most bisexual woman?
Tattoo moth.
Moth Did you know that?
I mean, I did know that, butwhat's your answer?
Butterfly.
Okay, there you go.
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You think it's butterfly?
I think moths are gross.
You don't like moths?
No.
I was kind of traumatized by themoths when I lived in Mexico.
So.
OH, tell me how you'retraumatized by a moth in Mexico.
There are so many that werealways living around the room
I lived in, and they were like,this big, And they scared
the shit out of me.
I'm not good with bugswhich is ironic that I like
(16:29):
butterflies.
It's like butterflies andladybugs about all I like.
Do you even like butterflies?
Yes.
One flies on you, you'll..
Yeah I’m Cool.
All right, you're chilling.
I don't like dragonflies.
Really?
No.
They freak me out.
Why?
Alright.
You hear them?
Freaks me out.
They get an audio system.
I'm fucked.
I'm running.
They're pretty though.
Like a picture is cool.
(16:51):
A picture of a dragon fly.
Yeah.
All right.
As long as you're not seeingthem.
It's my Tism.
Yeah it is.
it is.
It's showing.
Next topic.
Shucks.
Laying down or sitting up fora tattoo?
I personally prefer to sit up.
(17:13):
But I get why they’ll have youlay down.
Because I feel like you're like,you're kind of forced to stay
more still.
Yeah.
Like you're moving around alittle more.
You like drinking water, you'reon your phone when you’re
sitting.
I prefer to lay down, butI'm a boy, so maybe that's where
gender matters.
Maybe I'd prefer to sit.
(17:34):
But I'll do whatever they tellme.
I like to lay down.
I feel like I'm out of their wayand they can just, Man
manhandle.
You manhandle me around.
Yeah.
Real sub when you're gettingtattooed.
Yeah.
Speaking of sub, the, wipe off,Yeah I’ve never had a huge issue
(17:57):
with it, but I feel like.
No, I did with the big one.
I have so painful.
I think it depends howmuch, time you kind of spent in
the chair.
Oh, yeah.
How painful it’s going to be.
How much they've been drillinginto you and all that stuff.
Yeah, I that one was bad.
My last ones were pretty fine.
The chest one hurt.
But he also goes spraying youwith alcohol this time.
(18:18):
Okay.
Yeah.
So that one sucked.
Sometimes you just lay in thereand they didn't have a paper
towel ready and you're like,I hate when my man cums in me
like this.
And it's just, like, seeping allover you.
Oh, yeah.
How's the wipe off for you?
Same.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, I think that's prettyuniversal experience.
It can really hurtif they really fuck with you.
(18:39):
Tell your wipe off story fromKorea.
Oh, yeah.
I just got sprayed with alcohol.
So, after four hours of astomach tattoo.
Yeah.
And then she didn't want to.
Five.
Hours clean you.
Up in the chair for five hours,and, she didn't shave me.
She just started going, and she,no breaks.
Five hours, stomach tat and thenalcohol spray off, and,
(19:02):
why would you want a secondskin?
Why do you want to wrap?
Oh, you want to wrap?
Okay, pussy.
She call me a pussy straightto my face.
Yeah.
Next topic.
Travel tattoos.
Oh, okay.
I love travel tattoos, butthey're.
I feel like I'm always a littlehesitant because I don't.
I want to see the place I'mgoing to.
(19:23):
So I think my travel tattoo issmarter than your travel to
tattoos.
Mine is smaller.
And it does depend where I go.
I want the place to be clean.
So, like, I'll.
I'll sus that out before I getto the place.
I’m less likely to do a walk inbecause don't know what I'm
getting myself into.
I see.
You know.
The only problem for me with atravel tattoo is probably on
vacation then, and I probablywant to get into some sort of
(19:45):
body of water, so I have to planaround that.
But if you're not at a placewhere you're getting in a body
of water, is it okay?
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Okay.
I mean, I wish I got morewhen I was in, I wish I got one
when I was in Japan and.
I know.
Europe.
I wish I got few, but, we don'tknow.
I support travel tattoos, butyou really have to plan around
(20:07):
the water activities.
Yeah, you really do.
That's the problem.
Unless you want to ruin it.
Unless I don't.
I don't want to ruin them.
A lot of people do.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Next topic.
Your turn.
Second skin love second.
Skin love love second skin.
I don't know why some peoplehate it.
I mean, I don't either.
I mean, let you have an inksack.
That's cool.
(20:27):
When else see you, thenyou have an octopus for like
a day.
You have an ink sack.
You get to look at that.
You just are fine.
I mean, what's the issue?
Unless you're having some weirdallergic reaction to it, that's
the problem.
I mean, it kind of hurts totake off sometimes.
Matters how big the tattoo is.
It's like ripping off aBand-Aid.
(20:48):
Yeah, I'd rather have that thansome weird, like, Saran wrap
situation that's not reallydoing much Saran wrap.
The germs can seep into it.
Yeah, I feel like it's so muchsafer.
Amazing.
I'm like, every wound should belike this.
Yes, I.
I agree.
Put it everywhere.
Put it all over me.
Cover me into it.
(21:09):
So the second skin.
Oh next topic okay people thatthis isn't common but people
that get put under to get likehuge tattoos.
Gay.
Lame.
Lame.
Oh, losers.
Yeah, I'm fine with numbingcream, but I'm not okay if
you're getting fully put down.
Like, bro, I.
Don't have that many tattoos.
(21:30):
both of us.
We really don't compare toa lot of people.
But you can't be puttingyourself under.
That's criminal.
That's crazy.
It seems so silly.
I mean, and it's so many ofthese, like, pro athletes
that are doing it, and I'm like,you guys are so like alpha, like
pro athletes, like, don'tyou want to be like and
everyone knows you like if I didthat, like NDAs all around,
(21:52):
like, nobody's knowing that Ijust had to go under for this.
But everybody knows because youliterally one day have nothing
At that point its genderaffirming surgery.
Yeah.
You want everyone to see you acertain way.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And you had to get put under forit.
Yeah.
Because you literallythey always have nothing.
And then they come out literallyneck down tattoos.
And I'm just like, it’s gottahurt the next day.
(22:14):
I mean it probably still is somuch.
Pain 100%.
So much body healing.
Oh, yeah.
You're back.
You backs gotta I feel likeshit.
But, like, I don't know how youkeep that clean.
You just try.
You have to have somebody helpyou.
I don't really know how you doa back tat.
Yeah, clean back tat or anythinglike that.
No, because I don't have thatmany tattoos.
And I probably shouldn't betalking about this topic, but
(22:34):
whatever.
Here we are.
Here we are.
We like tattoos.
And we like topics.
And I think that's all of it.
That's a pretty good rundown.
I mean, we can always come back.
I think next time we're goingto do this, we're going to get a
numbing cream sponsor andget tattoos while we podcast,
which might be hard mic wise Butwe'll figure that out down the
(22:55):
road.
Yeah.
I mean we'll get a little clipmix and then we'll just talk.
But we'll get some tattooartists that want to come and
do it and it’ll be fun.
listen to our stupid.
No they'll contribute.
They'll talk.
We gotta mic them up or arewe just going to hand over.
Probably just hand it.
We'll get into the detailson our own time.
Not yours.
Tune back in for our next one.
It won't be that, but stay tunedfor our next tattoo topic
(23:17):
episode.
And thanks for listening.
Like, subscribe.
And, Drop your topics that youwant to hear below.
Oh, yeah.
Tell me what topics you want.
We'll talk about them.
That's Emma that's Joey, andthat is Demon Babie.
Good night.
Bye.
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