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Berly (00:01):
Music. Welcome to denim
wrapped nightmares, Tipsy
exchange Podcast where weexplore the supernatural series,
episode by episode, over
LA (00:11):
drinks, we'll discuss the
lore the gore and what we adore
about the Winchesters and theiradventures.
Berly (00:17):
I'm Burleigh and I'm a
new fan of the series.
LA (00:20):
I'm LA, and I'm here along
for the ride. Now let's get
Berly (00:27):
tipsy. Hello, LA,
LA (00:28):
hello Burly. Our
Berly (00:29):
last episode was a mess.
LA (00:31):
It was, yeah, not great, not
our finest moment, not
Berly (00:35):
our finest, not our
finest. But can you do like a
brief synopsis of what wewatched last week. Of course, it
LA (00:45):
was the infamous hook man,
infamous because of the legend
and because it's our worstepisode,
Berly (00:54):
our worst episode so far.
LA (00:56):
Exactly, the hook man is a
vengeful spirit who kills his
victims with a shiny hookbecause he lost his hand somehow
back in the day, he starts toterrorize this small town. It's
a college town in Iowa, Sam andDean, they learn that all the
victims are connected to thisone girl, Lori, who her father's
the Reverend, Reverend of thetown. The the boys race and find
(01:19):
they race to find and destroythe hook man's bones before he
comes for them, which doesn'tactually end up working. They do
burn them, but hook man stillears still come in, and they
discover that his hook wasmelted down and became something
else that belonged to thechurch. And they they find all
the silver in the church, throwit in this furnace doesn't work.
(01:41):
And then they realize that Lori,the girl, is wearing a necklace
in silver, her dad told her, orher dad gave it to her, as it
was some something of thechurch, from the church, and
that was what was made out ofthe hooks, hook, man's hook. And
so they burned that saved theday, and went on their way,
Berly (02:01):
and it was our fourth
Vengeful Spirit so far. The
first was a woman in white. Thesecond was the little drowned
boy. The third was Bloody Mary.
So now we have our fourth, andit was a man, right? So that's
about time, yeah, equality. Sothis week, we watched an episode
titled bugs, gross and LA was
LA (02:27):
not happy, not happy about
it, not thrilled, not excited.
No
Berly (02:33):
did not enjoy this week's
episode. It was very creepy,
very scary. Not a lot of gore,but I was still cringing during
the almost entire episode,nonetheless. Yeah, same. So
let's talk about what happenedin this week's episode. So first
we open up in Oklahoma. We're ata construction site, and it
(02:54):
looks like they're doing a newhousing development kind of
thing, and it shows these twomen working Dustin and Travis,
more on them later. So there's alittle bit of a shaking on the
ground, and then Travis,straight up, just falls in this
(03:18):
tiny, perfect person sizedsinkhole. Which sinkholes are
terrifying,
LA (03:24):
yeah, but I don't feel like
they're not that, like, small,
like that. They're usually,like, big. This was a
supernatural
Berly (03:30):
sinkhole. True, true,
true. But yeah, most of the
scary ones that you see are big,yeah, the ones that scare me,
the what most are the ones whereyou see people driving Yeah, and
then all of a sudden a sinkholehappens on a road, and cars, and
they're so scary, so already notgreat, things aren't going good,
(03:50):
and it shows poor Travis downthere screaming for help. His
ankle or his leg is busted,yeah, I
LA (03:58):
think it's like a protruding
bone.
Berly (04:00):
He's not in good shape.
Yeah, it's not good. He'scalling up and being like, Oh,
I'm sorry. Dustin is in thehole. I said Travis. Dustin is
right. Dustin is in thesinkhole. Not Travis. So Dustin
is screaming for Travis, andTravis runs to the truck to get
a rope to try and go get himout. He's not gone for more
than, like, a minute, and in themeantime, all these little
(04:21):
beetles are just covering Dustinin the hole, and it's showing
close ups of them crawling intohis nose, crawling into his
ears. He's covered. It'sdisgusting. It is. It's very
disgusting and terrifying. Andby the time Travis gets back to
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the hole with a rope to try andhelp him, he looks down and
Dustin is dead, yeah, and he'sgot blood coming out of his
eyes, ears and mouth and nose, Ithink, too, yeah, and is
everywhere. It's prettyhorrifying. Cut to Sam and Dean.
In a bar. Guess what? They'rereading la newspaper, woohoo. Or
(05:02):
I shouldn't say they. Sam isreading about the mysterious
death, and Dean comes walkingout of the bar, and he's got
cash in hand because he justswindled somebody in a billiards
game. And yet again, I'm gonnasay, such good music.
LA (05:21):
Yes. Oh my god. I know. I
even
Berly (05:24):
have gone on Spotify and
found like a supernatural
playlist, because just it's beenright on with the music every
episode so far,
LA (05:32):
they, like I said, I wonder
what their budget was for music,
because they they've done well.
Berly (05:37):
So Dean is bragging about
how he won the money, and is
basically saying he'd ratherearn money in a fun and easy way
than an honest way. Sam bringshim the article to read about
how Dustin passed away, and it'sbasically saying that he died
due to Mad Cow Disease. Sam ispointing out that that doesn't
(06:00):
seem right, because there aresymptoms that lead up. It's a
progressive thing. It's notsomething that happens within a
matter of minutes. Yeah, right.
And I mentioned while we werewatching it that I can't
remember if this is the righttiming, but I do remember like
people were really scared of madcow disease there for a little
bit. So I'm wondering if thiswas around the same time about
(06:22):
and they kind of tied it in. Andthen dean mentions that he'd
only heard of it on Oprah. AndSam looks at Dean as like you
watch Oprah. Dean doesn't reallyanswer. It's just a fun another
little brotherly moment. We'regetting more and more of those
the longer that they're reunitedand back together. So that's
(06:44):
fun, well,
LA (06:47):
and I think in this episode
that they talk a lot about like
their childhood and the way theygrow up, and how different their
views are of it,
Berly (06:54):
yes, a lot is exposed
that Sam is still pretty
resentful about a lot of thingswith their dad, and whereas Dean
is still being the good son, sodad speak, yeah, anywho, after
not too long of a discussion,Sam is able to convince Dean,
let's go take a look at thiscase. And they head off to
(07:17):
Oklahoma. They go to the gascompany, they walk up to Travis
and they claim that Dustin istheir uncle. I remember you got
really confused when they werelike, Hey, you're the one that
Uncle dusty told us about. Youwere like, who's uncle
LA (07:31):
dusty? Yeah, well, an
effort, because I forgot, like,
every time they meet somebody,like they have to lie about who
they are,
Berly (07:38):
yes, yes. And so Travis
was confused. And he said,
Dustin never mentioned that hehad nephews. And so Dean says,
really, because he talked to youabout us all the time. And I
swear Travis blushed, oh, he
LA (07:51):
was like, really? He just
smiled, smiled, and just Oh,
like he was touched.
Berly (07:57):
So I asked Travis Dustin
what was going on there. Yeah,
it was quite the reaction is,all I have just work friends, it
seems, it seems, so it seems.
But anywho, after chatting upTravis a little bit, Travis
claims that Dustin didn't haveany of these symptoms or signs
of mad cow disease, as Sam iskind of interrogating him, like,
(08:21):
did you notice this? Did younotice that Travis? Travis is
like, No, not at all. Then theyasked Travis to take them to
where the crime scene happened,where, where Dustin died. And so
Travis is like, Sure. And hetakes them to the scene where
they have just like, somecaution tape around the
sinkhole. Sam and Dean arechecking out the sinkhole, and
(08:43):
they kind of have anotherbrotherly moment where it's
like, who's gonna be the one whohas to go down in the sinkhole
and check it out? And I feellike Dean kind of swindled Sam
into volunteering to go, oh,yeah, yeah. Like, I feel like he
was kind of making it out. Like,oh, whoever's I'm the brave one,
so I'll go. And then it becameflip a coin, and then dean
(09:04):
flipped the coin. It was like,call it in the air. And Sam just
caught it in the air, snatchedit, and it was like, I'm going,
I'm going down. I feel like Deankind of swindled Sam into into
being, like, I'm going to be theone who goes. I
LA (09:18):
can see that. Yeah.
Berly (09:20):
So Sam goes in the hole,
checks it out, and he finds, I
think he said 10 of the Beatlesthat were in the hole
originally, which we know therewere way more than 10. Yeah, too
many. They are kind of like,okay, how could these Beatles
have killed him? It would havetaken a lot more than 10.
Something doesn't quite add up.
Sam's saying that there weren'ttunnels or any sign of where the
(09:42):
Beatles would have come from. Sothey're confused. But then they
pass a sign that says, OpenHouse, free barbecue, and Dean
knows immediately what they needto do next.
LA (09:55):
Oh yeah, there's no reason
not to head into a free
barbecue.
Berly (09:58):
Free barbecue. I mean,
barbecues are real good. Larry
Pike is who answers the door,and he's kind of in charge of
the housing development stuffthat's going on. And we find out
him and his family are the firstfamily to actually be living in
the housing development. And heintroduces them himself, and
he's like, Hey, we welcomeeverybody you know, regardless
(10:22):
of race, religion, color orsexual orientation. And Sam's
like, We're brothers. And he'sjust like, Oh, oops. And then
they said some lie about howthey're looking for a place for
their dad or something. And hetakes them back to the barbecue,
introduces them to his wife, andthen he introduces him to or
them, both of them to the realestate agent who's selling
(10:44):
houses. So she's trying to talkto them, and she gives the same
spiel about, we accept everybodyhere, regardless of race and
sexual orientation. So Dean justkind of runs with it at this
point. Is like, that's great,honey. And kind of smacks Sam on
the ass as he turns around andgoes inside to talk to Larry
pike some more, which
LA (11:05):
I was really happy about,
because when they were at the
door with Larry and they he waslike, We're brothers.
Immediately, I was like, Oh,come on, guys,
Berly (11:11):
just go tell it off.
Yeah. Who cares. So Dean isinside talking to Larry Pike,
and Sam is outside talking tothe real estate agent, and Dean
finds out that Larry's son isreally into bugs, and at the
same time, it shows Sam outsidetalking to the real estate
agent, and a he sees the littleboy, or I shouldn't say, little
boy. He's like, a teenager,yeah? I
LA (11:32):
think he said he was 16.
Yeah. He
Berly (11:34):
sees him at the end of
the table laughing, and looks
down and notices a tarantulacrawling toward the real estate
agent's hand, furry one. Oh, andyou cracked up, whatever. Sam
just kind of pushed her aside. Iwas like, Excuse me, what'd she
say?
LA (11:48):
She said, Oh, okay. And then
she just walks off. Like, this
Berly (11:51):
happens to her all the
time. Okay, just walked away.
And so Sam catches the tarantulaand goes up and is talking to
Larry's son, who we find out isnamed Matt, and he's saying it
was just a prank. I wasn'ttrying to really start anything.
It terrify someone. Yeah, theykind of bind over their
(12:12):
relationship with their dads.
Kind of saying, my dad thinksI'm a freak. He doesn't really
want to hang out with me. Andso, of course, that tugs at
Sam's heartstrings, becausethat's how he felt about his
dad, that they didn't haveanything in common, what have
you. Then Larry and Dean comeoutside, and Larry kind of takes
Matt away to go scold him. Samand Dean watch from afar and
(12:34):
have a little sidebar of theirown about their dad. Yeah, where
we can see that Sam's memoriesof growing up and his
relationship with his dad isvery different from Dean's,
LA (12:48):
yeah, I like, what? What did
he say? He was like, well, in
most families, a kid getting afull ride to college, they'd be
proud, yeah, but Dad, I guessdad didn't want him to go. But
then dean, I think, is it thenthat Dean tells him, like it's
because he didn't he was scared.
What would happen to you withhim not around, right? I
Berly (13:05):
don't know if that's when
I told him, but it doesn't
matter. Yeah, basically, theykind of have that conversation
that, you know, Dad was scaredabout you leaving. That's why he
reacted with anger in tellingyou, you know, if you go, don't
come back. And all that. It wasall fear. He drove by Stanford
every chance he got, and Sam iskind of like, why didn't he tell
(13:27):
me that? Yeah?
LA (13:28):
Which is, like, it's kind of
sweet, but creepy too, you know,
right? Dad's stalking you,
Berly (13:33):
yeah? But it's also, you
know, just toxic masculinity
that I can't say I'm worried. Ican't say I'm scared for you,
because we had this fight and wewere angry and blah blah blah,
and I have to keep that anger,you know, so during their little
conversation, you know, Sam'sstill bitching about how, like,
(13:53):
I wanted to play soccer, and hemade me learn how to bow hunt,
and blah blah blah. And, like,Dean is, like, very serious that
bow hunting is a very importantskill. Like, he's very serious
about it. Eventually theychanged the subject, and Dean
says that he found out thatabout a year ago, another man
died by severe bee stings. Andthey kind of make the
(14:18):
connection, okay, both of thesedeaths included bugs. That one
had bee stings, this one hadbeetles. Now we're leaving the
barbecue they're driving, andthey're still talking about the
bug connection, and, you know,there was no sign of ghost
activity, and they start talkingabout Matt and Sam and Dean kind
of make the connection. Well,Matt likes bugs, and there's
(14:40):
bugs everywhere. And what Ithought was funny is that I
think it was, I think it wasdean who went, you think he's
our Willie? Yeah, I
LA (14:50):
swear that's what he said. I
could have been wrong, but I was
just like, what? That's
Berly (14:53):
what I heard. And I'm
just like, what does that mean?
So they're talking about Matt,and they think Matt's their
Willy. Amazing. Currently theydecide that, okay, we're not
done here. We need to do somemore investigating. So Dean
decides it's late. I really wantto try this steam shower that
everybody's been talking aboutall day at the barbecue. So they
(15:14):
decide to squat in one of theempty houses for the night who
somehow has their waterconnected. I would have done
LA (15:20):
the same thing. If you don't
know anywhere to stay, you don't
have money, just hole up in oneof those fancy houses for the
night. Why not?
Berly (15:28):
I didn't see any motels
near the outskirts of this
housing development, right?
Well, they knew they were gonnahave to come back. Yeah,
LA (15:34):
and if it's just Larry
living there, like just don't
pick the one right next door toLarry. Well,
Berly (15:38):
it's not just Larry.
Linda, the real estate agent, isalso living there. So cut to
her, it shows her sitting on herbed watching TV, and a spider
crawls down her face from
LA (15:52):
her hair. Yes, it was in her
hair. Terrifying. Then
Berly (15:57):
it shows her go get in
her fancy steam shower, and
spiders start crawling out ofwhere the shower head is
connected to the wall, and shescreams, and kind of does a
little slip and slide run on hertile before smashing through the
glass door of her shower. And Iguess she crawled out of the
bathroom a little bit, becauseshe wasn't quite in the bathroom
(16:19):
whenever they pan out and showher dead on the carpet in the
bedroom with spiders crawlingall over her still. The next
morning, it shows Sam and Deanin their house, and Sam goes and
bangs on the door telling Deanto come out, and Dean opens the
door, and I think we're finallygonna get a decent topless shot
(16:39):
of Dean, but we just get a shotof him with a towel on his head.
Which la I was about to say?
Which LA? Thought was adorable,because he, like,
LA (16:48):
doesn't have any hair, but
he had the whole turban, like,
hair towel thing.
Berly (16:53):
Obviously, they're in the
neighborhood, so Sam and Dean
find all the paramedics andpolice and everybody outside of
Linda's house And Larry's there.
They try to ask him questions,but he's basically like, she
passed away. This isn't a goodtime, and kind of walks off.
However, Sam and Dean wait fortheir window and they break into
the house to go check out thecrime scene. Yet again,
LA (17:15):
they do a lot of B and E's,
yeah, they
Berly (17:17):
do. Yeah, they do. And
there's like, this awkward black
tape I outline of the body
LA (17:24):
it. It made me chuckle, just
because, like, I hadn't seen a
body outline like that and,like, since forever in a show,
because I don't think they dothat anymore. I
Berly (17:33):
don't know. I wouldn't
know. I don't watch so weird.
And I
LA (17:37):
think I'm used to like the
chalk outline, rather than dark
black tape.
Berly (17:42):
It looks kind of
cartoonish. Yes. Okay, thank
LA (17:44):
you. Yeah, I'm not a
terrible person. So
Berly (17:47):
Dean picks up a towel or
something, and a bunch of dead
spiders fall out of it. So nowthey go, okay, fucking bugs
again. Let's go talk to Matt.
He's our Willie.
LA (17:59):
He's our bug guy. He's our
resident Bug Guy.
Berly (18:02):
So they stalk the school
bus until they see Matt get off
and they notice him kind ofwalking the opposite way of his
house into the forest. So theygo follow him. And Matt kind of
gets nervous and he asks, Areyou serial killers? And they're
both like, no,
LA (18:21):
reassured. Totally
Berly (18:22):
reassured. And so Matt's
perfectly fine talking to them
now,
LA (18:26):
so weird.
Berly (18:28):
They question him about
the bugs. And Matt is like, you
think I did this? And he says,no, like, I didn't do it, but
the bugs are doing some weirdfucking shit. And so he starts
talking to Sam and Dean abouthow he's been studying the bugs
for a research paper that he'sdoing in his class, and that
there is a bunch of bugs likecongregating in this little
(18:51):
field area, and that noises andeverything, it's really eerie.
And there's this weird part ofthe land that doesn't look like
the rest. It looks like a mound,but, yeah, with grass on it, a
mound with grass on it and likea brown spot in the middle. And
so they walk closer, and ofcourse, the brown spot ends up
to be bugs, the worms. And Deanreaches his hand in there and
(19:16):
pulls out a skull. It's sogross. So now they go to the
Department of Anthropology,presumably at the local college,
and they bring a box ofuncovered skeletons from the
same area where they found thatskull. They're talking to this
professor, who looks like he's aBaldwin. He looked a lot like
(19:39):
Alec Baldwin to me,
LA (19:40):
I think he looks similar. He
more like not one of the
brothers, but like a cousin. Hecould be a cousin, yeah,
Berly (19:46):
one of them, Baldwin,
yeah. Somehow, the professor
basically tells them that theyare from the time of Native
Americans, when Native Americanshad the land. And the professor
says something. Thing about atribe basically not too far away
from where they are. So now Samand Dean go and visit this
(20:08):
Native American tribe, and thatguy that they talked to, I loved
him. Oh, my god, me too, somuch. He was a straight shooter,
and I like that. Yeah. He waslike, I'll talk to this one,
because he's not a liar. Hestraight up read Dean in like
seconds, yes, and he ends uptelling Sam and Dean the story
of a tribe that was basicallysystematically murdered for six
(20:31):
nights following the springequinox, and about how nature is
going to protect the Valley forsix nights after the Moon and
Sun share the sky as equals.
After the sixth night, no onewill be left alive,
LA (20:47):
no white people, no white
man, no
Berly (20:49):
white man, no white man
will be left alive. And so they
kind of put two and two togetherthat bugs are this nature that's
basically claiming all thesepeople's lives. They rush back
because now that Linda's dead,literally, it's just Larry,
Matt, their family. They're theonly ones who are there, and
it's the sixth night, so theyrush to go and help them.
(21:10):
They're calling Larry, trying toget a hold of him, to get him to
get out of the house. They callMatt, and we have an interesting
exchange where Sam is tellingMATT Like, you have to get your
dad to listen to you, and Dean'slike, fuck that. Lie to him.
Tell him you have appendicitisand you need to go to the
hospital. Just get the fuck outof the house. So we have that
this stuff happening with theirdad, and their different
(21:32):
perspectives on the dad,honestly throughout the entire
episode, yeah, there's quite afew exchanges about this, and
you start to see Sam softeningabout it and kind of starting to
see things from a differentperspective and maybe not be so
resentful anymore. So I thinkthat's the most important thing
that happens in this entireepisode, to be honest. Yeah,
LA (21:55):
character development,
Berly (21:57):
characters. So Sam and
Dean get to the house. And
Larry's like, Y'all are fuckingcrazy. There ain't no bugs
coming here. And then sureenough, they start to hear like
and they look up and there's agiant swarm of bugs coming up
over the tree line and comingtoward the house. And Larry's
like, fuck me. So they all runinside because they don't have
(22:19):
time to go anywhere. Now. Goodjob, Larry. And they basically
get in there, powers out, phonesout. They don't have surface
because the bugs, I said surfaceservice, because the bugs are
layering through every cell theyshoot through everything, and
they're layering themselves onthe house so they don't even
(22:39):
have cell phone service. Yeah,and Dean and Sam are basically
like, well, we're gonna have towait them out. Like, let's hope
we can make it to sunrise. SoI'm sitting here thinking that's
gotta be at least six hours,assuming they got to their house
at midnight and they were allstill awake for some reason. But
LA (22:56):
no, yeah, the the timeline
on this is little, a little
muddy it wasn't that long.
Berly (23:02):
I would have appreciated
them just having a scene where
they're just like sittingaround, waiting and us, not
knowing how much time has goneby before the bugs actually
started to come into the house.
Well, yeah,
LA (23:13):
but I feel like that, like
they, if they were just sitting
around, they should have justleft, you know, got out of
dodge.
Berly (23:20):
But I mean, once the
bugs, like, show the bugs
blanketing the house, and thenshow them like, sitting there
waiting. Oh, okay, I see whatyou're saying. Because it just
all happened very quickly. Oh,yeah, yeah, it did that. Bugs
are breaking into the house andswarming them. Well, you forgot
the most important part, the bugspray,
LA (23:41):
the one can of bug spray and
Berly (23:43):
a lighter. Dean kept
spraying bud spray, but lighting
it on fire and using it as atorch instead. And just, was
that really that much moreeffective? Dean? No. And
LA (23:54):
I, I'm pretty sure, pretty
sure, that can would have run
out before they even got to theattic. But
Berly (23:59):
yeah, so they do. They
run. They run to the attic. It's
the one place that they need togo. And termites are eating
through the woods, or bugs arecoming in and they're fighting,
and they're blocking the holeswith things they're finding in
the attic, and then sunlight andthe bugs give up and fly away.
And it just happened veryquickly as my Yeah, it was Yeah.
Little too quick. We cut toblack, and then the next day it
(24:22):
shows Sam and Dean going tocheck on the family again, and
there's a moving truck outsideLarry. Is basically like, we're
putting the project on holdbecause they're going to
investigate the bones that youguys found, and I will make sure
no one ever lives here like thebiggest financial disaster of my
career, but I'm gonna do theright thing. And then we see
(24:45):
that Matt is throwing out a lotof his bug stuff. Apparently,
he's not into bugs anymore,
LA (24:49):
which I was sad for him, but
also happy, right? Like,
Berly (24:53):
can't blame you for not
wanting to look at bugs anymore.
After that whole experience, Samgoes up and says, Good. By to
Matt, and then he goes and meetsDean at the car. And basically
is like, I want to find Dad.
Like he's letting go some ofthat anger, some of that
resentment. He wants to find hisdaddy. And doesn't
LA (25:10):
he say he wants to, he wants
to find him, to apologize to
him, yes, yeah. He
Berly (25:14):
basically says, I want to
tell him I'm sorry, yeah. Then
they hit the road for their nextcase, on to the next, on to the
next. So that was bugs. Therewasn't a lot I adored about this
episode. I'll be honest. Yeah,
LA (25:29):
are you early? No, there
certainly wasn't anything that I
the one moment I liked wasseeing uh Dean with the hair
wrapped up, or whatever the restI could have done without.
Berly (25:44):
There was some cute
character development. Yeah,
LA (25:47):
the moments where they were
talking about their childhood
and their differences orwhatever, I literally just none
of the bug scenes I
Berly (25:54):
could have you covered
your face. I feel like half of
the episode. I couldn't
LA (25:57):
watch it. I can't I know I'm
probably gonna have nightmares
tonight.
Berly (26:01):
Yeah, no more crawling on
me. I mean, there was the blood
coming out of Dustin, but thatwas really well and I guess
Linda whenever she fell throughthe shower, but those were the
only two gory things that theyweren't even that. Yeah, there
wasn't that much blood in eitherone, but it was just the creep
factor with the bugs. So, yeah,some cute character development
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in this episode, but if you'resqueamish over bugs, you could
skip it. Just know that by theend of this episode, Sam is
letting go of some of his angertoward his dad, and he actually
is open to communicating withhis father by the end, yeah,
yeah, that's like, the importantthing well, and
LA (26:40):
like, Thank God they did
that, because otherwise I'd have
been like, I shouldn't havewatched this episode at all, but
I just skipped
Berly (26:46):
it. So speaking of the
bugs and the creep factor, let's
dig into the lore. La take itaway. Well.
LA (26:53):
So the whole Indian burial
ground trope is frequently used
to explain like supernaturalevents and hauntings in our
American pop culture. It gainedpopularity in the 1980s making a
lot of appearances in horrorfilms TV, and it's kind of big
debut, as in the AmityAmityville Horror the first one,
(27:13):
I
Berly (27:13):
didn't realize that was
Native American burial ground.
Well, I remember the house washaunted, and, yeah, that. And
there was, like a hole in thewall. And I haven't seen it in a
while. I shouldn't try and read.
Well, I
LA (27:24):
mean, there's different ones
that they did. It's like, so
it's like this episode youbuilt, you built on an Indian
burial ground. Your curse. Thenthere was like that, like the
native, like the spirit couldinhabit I think that's what the
Amity Bill horror was like. TheSpirit inhabited him. Maybe,
yeah, probably should havelooked in this a little more,
but, oh
Berly (27:41):
well, this episode ain't
about the Amityville exactly. I
LA (27:45):
was gonna say, like now,
it's like a cliche, and it's
common. It's commonly used as asatirical element.
Berly (27:52):
There's this episode of
Parks and Recreation where
there's a character who's aNative American that has a
casino and works with the Parksand Rec Department. On occasion.
I don't remember exactly whatwas happening in the episode,
but I do remember him saying,like, there's one thing I know
about white people, it's thatthey're terrified of curses. And
I thought that was hilarious. Hedoes some fake stuff to get
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people to think that they're ifthere was a curse, that it's
gone. But I love his character.
He's so fun.
LA (28:21):
So we're kind of racist,
though, exactly I was gonna say,
we're just gonna skip that andtalk about the real, true,
terrifying thing, because all ofthat stuff is quite a bit
racist. So yeah,
Berly (28:33):
and it was background to
what was really scary, right?
Just the fucking bugs.
LA (28:38):
Fucking bugs. Okay, I was
tasked this time with, you know,
researching bugs, which I hateand I don't appreciate. Thanks a
lot. Burley, one of the firstthings was that we need to
consider that bugs and insectsoutnumber us humans. It's hard
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to say this 200 million to one,and there are an average of 400
million insects per acre ofland.
Berly (29:12):
That's insane, even in
cities like it's an average,
yeah, okay,
LA (29:17):
so that is like the backdrop
what they say for the All
Hallows Eve horror flick withbugs and whatnot, which I don't
think. I feel like there haven'tbeen that many horror films with
bugs. I All I can think is likearachnophobia, which terrified
me, right?
Berly (29:33):
Or I was thinking of men
in black for some reason,
because, oh yeah, alien is abug.
LA (29:40):
Oh, let me go to this
terrifying website that I can
hardly look at the pictures.
Okay? So we decided we wouldlook up some of the scariest to
like more most terrifyingspiders and bugs or whatever
that could like kill us. Take usdown, according to pestco.com
(30:00):
Yes, yes, yes, yes. As we know,insects rapidly develop from egg
to adult, and they have crawledtheir way in across Earth for at
least 400 million years.
Because, how
Berly (30:14):
long have we been here?
LA (30:16):
I don't know, not that long.
Oh, like they, I think they werelike in Jurassic and all that,
you know, yeah, weren't
Berly (30:23):
they bigger back then?
Were they the size of us? Wedon't, we
LA (30:27):
don't need to talk about
that. That's terrifying. So
scientists surmise thatarachnophobia, which is fear of
spiders, but I, I latch on toall bugs with me, they may be
the result of evolutionarypsychology. Coming into contact
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with venomous spiders wascommonplace in man's early
history, but a fear of spidersdeveloped as a survival tactic,
and in modern times, they havemade their name in world cinema,
and since the 1950s they've beenstars in lots of movies. And
Lord of the Rings hascontributed to my terrifying
fear of them. Lord of the Rings,the the big spider. Oh, my God,
(31:10):
I know you hated that. Oh, so,as they say, the most popular
symbol for Halloween is thespider, which I don't
necessarily agree with, I feellike the pumpkin, maybe
Berly (31:22):
pumpkin or a ghost, I
would Yeah, I would say spider
would be fourth, right? Yeah,pumpkin, ghost, witch, then
spider. Well,
LA (31:29):
this article is on spiders,
so of course, well,
Berly (31:31):
it makes sense. They're
gonna hype it up a little bit.
Yeah,
LA (31:34):
so I thought this was
interesting. I didn't know this,
but there are some superstitionsin, like, around the presence of
a spider in a home. In somecultures, a spider scene in the
morning is an omen of impendingdeath. And then if a spider
falls into like a candle litlike a candle or something which
I've never seen, which would, Iwould this sounds terrible, but
(31:56):
I wouldn't mind. But it becomesand it becomes consumed by the
flame that's meant as a warningthat witches are lurking nearby.
Berly (32:07):
What about dreams?
LA (32:08):
Hold on. But it says, like
in parentheses, even if your in
laws are out of town. It didn'tsay anything about dreams. But I
know I've had dreams.
Berly (32:19):
I've had recurring Yeah,
no. Burle
LA (32:23):
sent me an article about
like, 12 creepy insects that you
never want to encounter. Like, Ithink these are some of the
deadliest around, which I wassurprised, because I thought
they were all going to be likespiders. You would
Berly (32:33):
think, yeah, but I think
there's a lot of bugs out there
that are way worse than spiders,actually, I
LA (32:37):
guess. Well, yeah, according
to this, because the first one,
it's the giant silkworm assassincattle, which, apparently
there's like, Assassin insectsthat it's like, that's a
species, I guess. Oh, but thisone, like the picture, he's this
black worm with these, like,almost like neon yellow little
spikes all over him. Oh, soit's, he's kind of cool looking,
(33:00):
honestly, but he's from SouthAmerica. He's a little punk
rock, yeah, yeah. And he hasvery powerful venom, and he's
responsible, or I shouldn't sayhe it is responsible for many
deaths each year. The larva ofthis caterpillar has tiny
bristles. They release a toxinthat's highly poisonous to
humans, and it it basicallycreates gangrene throughout the
(33:22):
body, oh, my god, throughout thebody, and the leakage of blood
into the brain, and its toxin isanti clotting, so it makes it
impossible to stop the bleeding,and it ultimately causes death.
Berly (33:35):
That is terrifying. Yeah,
LA (33:37):
I know I'm not going to
South America, but I've always
wanted to write. So then, Imean, these were 12, I'm not
gonna go overall 12, just theones that kind of stood out. So
then we have the Australianfunnel web spider, which I've
seen the pictures of, likegigantic spiders in Australia.
(33:58):
Australia's top of my list thatI've always wanted to go to,
right? But I never want to seeanything like that in person. I
would, I don't even know. Ican't even imagine what I would
do. Have
Berly (34:09):
you seen the pictures
where it shows like a field and
it looks like it's a field ofsomething, and then people are
like, Oh no, that's webs. No,like,
LA (34:19):
Thank you. No. Anyway. So
this guy, his toxin, can kill a
human being in 15 minutes. Damn.
There's 35 species of thesefunnel web spiders, but this one
is like the deadliest, and theycall it the Sydney funnel web
spiders. And they're large andaggressive. And it says they
have big rear Ward, rear Wardface, no. Rear Ward facing fangs
(34:41):
that are capable of piercingthrough fingernails.
Berly (34:50):
Rear Ward face around
their butt, I
LA (34:52):
guess so. Yeah, they got
fangs in their butt, I guess so,
at the back the back end. Yeah,
Berly (34:57):
what was that movie where
the girl had teeth and. Or
vagina teeth. Oh,
LA (35:06):
well, the males are
particularly deadly because they
wander. They tend to wander intohouses searching for their mates
before they had the developmentof like anti venom, which was in
1981 which I did not know. Oh,it caused 13 deaths, including
seven children. Oh no, I know.
Oh god. I can't even, I can'teven look at this picture. It's
(35:29):
so fucking terrifying to me. TheTitan beetle is the world's
largest beetle. And basicallythe picture is of somebody's
hand, it's hard to say. Andholding it, the beetle is like,
basically the side almost biggerthan the hand, and it looks like
a man hand. Oh, my God, it's sobad. Okay, honestly, I
Berly (35:53):
don't know how you made
it through this episode. I
LA (35:55):
don't know how I made it
through this article. The
world's largest beetle, he theycan be around six and six and a
half inches long, and they'reindigenous to South America and
the rainforest, of course,especially French, uh, French,
Guinea. Guinea, yeah, they'reenormous. And if they hiss, oh,
I'm sorry, they hiss if they'rethreatened, but they're usually
(36:16):
not aggressive. Oh, okay, butwatch out if they do become
aggressive, because they'resharp spines and powerful jaws
are long enough to break apencil, dent a plastic ruler, or
cut a person's flesh. Ouch. Andit says that, like most beetles,
many creatures right now arethreatened by the deterioration
(36:38):
of the rainforest habitat. Oh,my God, I can't with that
picture. I'm so sorry. Then wehave bullet ants when I which I
never heard from, I heard about.
I never heard from them.
Berly (36:51):
You never heard from
them. They never got back to
you. Ever heard of they were anAnt Man. Oh, really, yeah, I
think that. I think those werethe ants that she had all by the
bed, uh huh, so that if he triedto leave without them, knowing
the bullet ants would bite himand stop him. I think they have
the worst, the worst bite. Yes,yeah.
LA (37:13):
It says bullet ants the most
painful bite in the world. Yeah,
Berly (37:16):
they were an ant. Man,
yeah. Okay,
LA (37:18):
I did. I don't remember
that, probably because I don't
like bugs in it, probablybecause was in it exactly.
Berly (37:23):
He was on main focus.
Yeah. Don't need to remembernothing else. But
LA (37:27):
they grow up to an inch
long, and their feet work like
glue on any substance they like,attach themselves to. Ew, yeah.
So it's like, I feel like evenif it was on you, it could just
sting you a whole bunch, becauseit's glued to you. But the sting
from this ant is found. Where isit found? South America, the
(37:49):
rainforest of Central and SouthAmerica, which I'm like, again,
like, I'd always love to see therainforest down there, but like,
just the thought of all thesebugs, no, and the fact that
there are species in there thatthey haven't even discovered
yet. Yeah, anyway, but itcreates one of the most painful
bites and then any other insectin the world. And it said that
(38:12):
people who have been bitten byit, they said it feels like
being shot by a nail gun, andthat the burning pain is
instantaneous and excruciatingand lasts up to 12 hours.
Berly (38:23):
Damn.
LA (38:24):
I'd say, knock me out,
right? I'd say, just punch me
and knock me out so
Berly (38:30):
I wake up. There was a
sinkhole that opened in China,
and a rainforest has grown inthere, and it's like the deepest
sinkhole in the world. Andthere's, they've discovered new
species in there. Really isn'tthat crazy. How did they get
there?
LA (38:44):
Then we have the solitary
tarantula hawk. Wasp, oh, he's
got a lot going on in that name,right? Tarantula Hawk and Wasp,
he's the largest member. I keepsaying he that's terrible. I
need to stop it's the largestmember of the spider Wasp
family, and they comprise of5000 diverse species.
Berly (39:06):
There's 5000 different
kinds of spider wasps. Yeah.
LA (39:12):
So its existence is a
lifelong quest for the fierce
critters that give them theirname. They encounter many of
their predators along the way,like birds, lizards and it's it
has very powerful Venom that'smeant to help them get away and
survive, because it gives likean instantaneous punch of their
venom. It's excruciating andtotally debilitating pain, and
(39:35):
it lasts until the predatorreleases it from their grasp.
Yikes. So he decides when you'redone, it decides when you're
done. It's terrifying. It'sterrifying. Yes, then we have
the aggressive, unforgivingassassin bug, another assassin.
Berly (39:52):
That's his whole name,
yeah, Jesus. Well, I
LA (39:55):
think it's probably an
assassin bug, but the article is
saying they're aggressive. Oh,okay. Yeah, but it can transmit
disease to humans. Ah, theyattack their prey by quickly and
violently stabbing them withtheir long, sharp beak, and then
beak, yeah, and then after theytheir predator or their, you
(40:16):
know, victim dies, theybasically inject an enzyme into
their victims, which softenstheir insides and prepares them
to be sucked out like asmoothie.
And it said one particularspecies in Malaysia actually
(40:38):
glues the empty corpses onto itsback, using, like, their sticky
secretions, and wearing them as,like a suit of armor.
Berly (40:47):
Is it like a trophy, I
guess, or they think it's gonna
protect them somehow. I
LA (40:52):
guess it's suit. Maybe it
does save them. I don't know.
It's a suit of armor, so I don'tknow. Oh, those are the ones. I
mean, they're like, I said,there's 12. But those are the
like, the ones that caught my Iwouldn't say interest
Berly (41:07):
the worst of the worst.
Yeah, yeah. I'm
LA (41:09):
sure there's many more worse
than that, but oh yeah,
Berly (41:13):
they're the worst and
itself, they could have gone way
crazier than what they did withlike they did, they did, bees,
beetles, spiders, yeah, andtermites were the only bugs I
heard specifically called out.
Oh, and I guess the worms, wesaw the worms, yeah, yeah, they
could have used some scarier
LA (41:30):
guys, for sure. Yeah. Oh,
okay, it was enough, though. So
Berly (41:34):
to close it out, we have
a quote when they're in the car
scoping out the neighborhood.
LA (41:40):
Dean says, kind of hungry
for a little barbecue. How about
you? And Sam glares at him, andJean says, what? We
Berly (41:46):
can't talk to the locals.
Then Sam goes and the free foodsgot nothing to do with it. And
Dean says, Of
LA (41:52):
course not. I'm a
professional.
Berly (41:55):
Here's to professionals,
right? Cheers.
LA (41:58):
Also, as I said, why would
you not go to a free barbecue,
yum.
Berly (42:03):
Thank you for listening
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LA (42:14):
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