January 4, 2023 • 34 mins
Berly and LA recap and discuss the season one Supernatural episode, the Benders. Over drinks, they'll discuss lore, gore, and what they adore about the Winchesters and their adventures. Now, let's get tipsy! CW/TW for violent and lewd commentary; listeners beware! 🔞
Summary: In the "Denim Wrapped Nightmares" podcast, hosts Berly and LA discuss the Supernatural episode "The Benders." They analyze the parallels with "Stranger Things," noting similarities in telekinetic powers and tragic family histories. The episode takes place in Hibbing, Minnesota, where a boy is abducted under a car, leading Sam and Dean to investigate. Sam is captured by the Benders, a family who hunt humans for sport, while Dean faces his own challenges. The hosts also explore the lore behind human hunting, referencing historical and fictional examples, and conclude with a discussion on the morality of such practices.
Resources:
- https://supernatural.fandom.com/wiki/The_Benders
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_hunting
- https://allthatsinteresting.com/robert-hansen
- https://study.com/academy/lesson/the-most-dangerous-game-summary-and-themes.html
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Berly (00:01):
Music. Welcome to denim wrapped nightmares, Tipsy
exchange Podcast where weexplore the supernatural series,
episode by episode, over
LA (00:11):
drinks, we'll discuss the lore the gore and what we adore
about the Winchesters and theiradventures.
Berly (00:17):
I'm Burleigh and I'm a new fan of the series.
LA (00:20):
I'm LA, and I'm here long for the ride. Now let's get
tipsy. Hello LA, hello Burly.
Berly (00:30):
Last week, we watched nightmare and we got to revisit
some lore that we've alreadyresearched before, medical agina
and stranger Stranger Things.
Inspiration, of course,supernatural was the OG Stranger
Things,
LA (00:45):
obviously, yeah.
Berly (00:46):
So shout out. I
LA (00:47):
don't know why I just said obviously. It's not that's not
obvious.
Berly (00:51):
Well, if you've watched Stranger Things, which, if you
liked supernatural, I wouldimagine that you would watch
Stranger Things, yeah. So it'skind of obvious. I think it
could be obvious we met Max, atortured soul who was
unfortunately abused and he hadtelekinetic powers, and we found
out that his mother died inexactly the same way as Sam's.
(01:13):
So this story that they've beenthinking is very unique to them,
very special to the Winchesterfamily for 20 years. Turns out,
not so much. There's somethingelse going on here. So that was
a little I'm imagining, that's abreadcrumb that'll come I said a
breadcrumb, breadcrumb that willget picked up maybe later this
(01:39):
season, or maybe I know nextseason.
LA (01:42):
I was wondering, like, I mean, we obviously saw the next
episode, but I was like, are wejust, we're just gonna put a pin
in that. We're not gonnainvestigate that any further. I
Berly (01:50):
think so, because they've been, they've been picking up
little pins along the way, likein this episode. Oh, they how
they mentioned Dean, yeah, whenDean goes to the sheriff for
help, you know, she mentionsthat Dean, he's telling her
about Sam Winchester, and shebrings up Dean Winchester and
that he's dead, yeah? And ittook me a second to go, Oh,
(02:13):
yeah. That happened in skinwhere that shape shifter got
killed in the form of Dean. Andso Dean's been declared dead. I
kind of forgot about right? So Ithink it's probably going to be
something like that where it'sprobably maybe next week we'll
be okay revisiting that. Whoknows. We'll see. Who knows. But
(02:36):
this week was different from theother episodes that we've seen
so far, not so muchsupernatural. Yeah, creepy, just
creepy people. Creepy fuckingpeople. Terrible, terrible human
beings who straight up admitthat they do these things just
(02:57):
because it's fun. Yeah, yeah. Solet's, let's go into the recap
and talk about this week'sepisode, the benders. The
benders,
LA (03:08):
all right? Well, in the benders, we are in Minnesota,
Hibbing, Minnesota, and we seethis little boy in a in an
apartment, and he's looking outhis window. There's a guy down
there taking out his garbage,and all of a sudden he's hearing
these weird noises. And the boylike, he goes and looks under a
car, because that's where thenoise seems to be coming from,
(03:29):
and he doesn't see anything,stands up, and then he's dragged
under the car. And the littleboy sees this, and it's dark,
like we can't see what was underthe car. No, just the weird
noise. What was those? What
Berly (03:43):
called it a whining growl? Yeah, the little boy did.
LA (03:46):
So next we see the boys dressed in very nice state
police uniform,
Berly (03:52):
cool uniform, not hats and everything suits, not
pretending like hat. Yeah, youwere really happy with the hat.
Hat. They had the whole thenthey had the jackets with the
fur collar, yeah, the Sherpacollar. They looked good. They
looked very good. So last weekwe got them dressed up as
priests, and this week we gotthem dressed up as, I guess,
(04:13):
sheriffs or police officers orwhat have you the recap thing
said, state police. Okay, sostate policeman, ooh, I wonder
what we're gonna get next week,right? Are they gonna have
another costume next week? Idon't know. It was real nice
that
LA (04:25):
mom though. She was like, ready to have them out of her
apartment. I was like, Bitch.
I'd be like, you want a cup oftea? Stay a while.
Berly (04:33):
And you pointed out Sam's hair is getting longer. It's
kind of been at that weirdlength where his ears make it
flip. And it's finally, kind oflater in the episode. It was
still flipping, but it's gettingto where it's not doing that.
Yeah,
LA (04:46):
he looks He looked very good in this one. I
Berly (04:47):
mean, he looks good all the time, but the hair looked
better. Yeah, I
LA (04:50):
was just looking at him. I was like, that's different. I'm
not mad at it. So the little boytells the guys he doesn't
really, they don't get much for.
Remember, except for the oddnoise. He says that it was wet,
again, whining,
Berly (05:04):
growling. I think that's what he said, Yeah, I didn't
write it down, but I thinkthat's what he said.
LA (05:08):
Then the boys are at a bar doing their research. They're
really good researchers. I
Berly (05:13):
have to give it to him, yeah. Well, Dean's playing
darts, so Well, yeah.
LA (05:17):
I mean, they they trade off.
But Sam decides, you know, like,it's time to go. Dean wants to
do another round. But Sam'slike, No, we have an early day.
Sam, for some reason, leaves togo out in the parking lot while
Dean goes to the bathroom. Andhe's well,
Berly (05:32):
Dean told him to he was like, Go wait out in the car.
I'm gonna take a leap. Oh, didhe and I remembered thinking as
soon as he said that, and Samjust got up and walked out. I
looked at you, and I was like, Iwould not go sit outside by
myself. I would just stayperched right there and wait for
you to come out of the bathroom.
Yeah, absolutely. But we'rewomen, we're taught to not have
sense
LA (05:55):
that too. So yeah. So Sam's out, then he hears a sound.
Looks under a car, and it's alittle kitty cat scratching at
him. Sweet little, I think shescared him, yeah? And he kind of
laughs it off, um, but he hears,like the the noise that the
other guy heard. We get apicture of his feet from under
the car, and he's, he's takentwo which we don't see him get
(06:18):
taken. Yeah, we know, but he is,yeah, because Dean comes out and
starts freaking out that hecan't find him. And what did he
say in the last hour or so? Haveyou seen somebody? Yeah, and
Berly (06:28):
you and I were like, how long did it take you to take a
leap that you're asking people,have you been out here in the
last hour or so? How long wereyou in that bathroom? What did
you eat?
LA (06:38):
Then we see our sweet Sam in a big old cage. He's been taken,
thrown in a cage, and there'scage next to him, and it's the
first guy that was taken out asa real dick. Yeah, he literally
put that the first, this firstguy was a real dick.
Berly (06:55):
Great, minds, great, um, but
LA (06:57):
yeah, like, you would think, I mean, you would think he's
probably been there by himself,and he's just, like, rude to
Sam. I'd be like, happy to havesomebody else. I mean, I feel
bad that they're in thesituation with me, but at least
there's somebody there. Youknow, you're not alone. Yeah,
maybe you can work together andescape. But no, he was just kind
of a dick. Yeah,
Berly (07:15):
he did call him at one point. I think it's later in the
episode, he calls him Sammy, andSam goes, Don't call me Sammy.
We haven't heard that in awhile. That was fun.
LA (07:27):
Sam tries to pull on some cable cord, something or other.
Yeah, and I mean, he's reallytrying. He's struggling
Berly (07:35):
that tension Jared. How do I get that tension in the
arms and just his jaw and allthat you find, finds an
opportunity for it almost everyepisode.
LA (07:45):
So we see him. He's trying to pull this thing from the the
ceiling. I'm not sure what itis. I think it's something
electrical.
Berly (07:51):
I thought I was about to say it looked like one of those
really thick metal electricalcord, power cord things that
like when you're runningelectric to something outside,
right kind of thing?
LA (08:03):
Well, then we check in with Dean. He is at the local
sheriff's office, whatever, andthere's a lady deputy. She he
starts asking, if she can, whatdoes he ask her to look up
Berly (08:15):
he noticed there were security cameras that's right in
the parking lot when he waslooking for Sam, right, okay,
after he was in the bathroom foran hour or so,
LA (08:24):
and he has some cops, license or card or whatever ID
they
Berly (08:29):
got a badge, Washington, yeah,
LA (08:34):
Washington. So they get to talking, and that's when we get
the little nugget from skin,because she looks up Sam for
him, who he says is his cousin,and then she sees the Dean's
dead and wanted for murder,yeah, well, not wanted anymore,
but he was apparently associatedin it. The deputy does help him
(08:56):
out. She gets the footage andwhich, you know nowadays it'd be
video style, but she pulls outsome printed papers, screenshot
by screenshot. And there wasthis old truck that pulled out
shortly after Sam went outsideto the car, and they noticed
(09:16):
that the license plate is new,but the car's like, old and
rickety, so they figure it'sstolen. That was, like,
Berly (09:21):
dirty, yeah? Like the car was dirty, but the license plate
was bright white, right?
LA (09:25):
So they're like, Okay, probably stolen. And then, so
while she's showing him this,this, this old van drives by
them, and it has the sound that,like the little boy described,
yeah. I was like, Yeah, whichI'm like, I didn't see that van
again. So how did that, like,tie in?
Berly (09:43):
I guess it just made him think old, rickety car. Yeah,
would make a sound similar tothat. Wouldn't you say that
sounds like a whining growl orwhatever? So I think it was more
connecting old cars than itactually being the van, okay,
but it was a creepy. On with nowindows,
LA (10:01):
Oh, for sure. Yeah, yeah.
Then we we switch back to Sam,and he gets he's finally got, he
pulled that electrical cabledown, and as soon as he did
other guy's name, we'll justcall him dick. Other Guy. Dick,
his cage opens, yeah, and Sam'ssuspicious. He's like, No, that
was too easy. Like, I think thisis a trap. Of course, the guy
doesn't listen,
Berly (10:22):
yeah? Dick's like, peace out. I'm gonna try and go get
help later, Sam. He's
LA (10:25):
like, I'm gonna come back.
I'm gonna go, but then I'll comeback for you. And Sam's like,
No, this isn't it's not right?
And he's like, bye, Sam, andjust leave See ya. And then
outside of this barn, orwhatever he was in, there's just
conveniently a rusty knifesitting on the ground, the
ground, yeah, naturally, youknow, dime a dozen as it as it
(10:47):
typically happens, you know, andhe starts running, trying to get
out of town. Or he startsrunning. He starts running,
trying to get away. And hestarts to hear somebody, like,
coming after him. Somebodyknocks, somebody has some, like,
big stick, yeah, I was like, bigspear, and smacks him, knocks
him down, and he tries to cut,like, use the knife at him.
(11:09):
Doesn't work. Uh, sometimes hegets back up and starts running
again. And then they, kind of,there's two of them, and they
kind of lock him in, and he hitsa trip wire. What did the trip
wire do? Though,
Berly (11:19):
I think I just tripped him. Okay, yeah. I
LA (11:21):
was like, nothing fell or Yeah. And then it's, we see two
men, two burly, busted chainHey. Oh, that's funny. And they
have these, like, the theirsticks or whatever have, I think
it's like some sort of spear onthe end. And they both just
like, go to town on the guy andkill him.
Berly (11:42):
Yeah, they did show a close up shot of one of them
jabbing the spear through histhigh. Oh, that's
LA (11:49):
what it was. I do something, yeah? Oh, yeah. Oh,
Berly (11:53):
that made me clinch everything. Whenever they showed
that shot, I didn't like it,yeah.
LA (11:58):
We then see Dean is with the deputy, and they're chatting in
the car, and she runs his IDfrom the license or whatever,
Berly (12:09):
I think she said, badge number. Badge number is a badge,
yeah.
LA (12:12):
And she discovers that his badge has been stolen, and he is
a larger African American man,so she knows that Dean is not
who he said he was. He
Berly (12:23):
tried to be like, I lost weight and I have that skin
disease
LA (12:27):
that Michael Jackson's skin disease. Yeah, yeah, terrible.
Oh, by the way, the
Berly (12:31):
dickheads name is Alvin Jenkins. Alvin, okay, R I P.
Alvin, okay,
LA (12:36):
being a good cop, she's like, I gotta take you in. But
Dean tries to convince her. He'slike, come on, please. Like, at
least let me find my cousin, andthen you can I'll cooperate
whatever she likes. She doesn'twant to do it. But then she sees
she has this picture of her andsome guy on her visor, and she
kind of, like, looks at that,and then she decides, Okay, I'll
(12:57):
help you. You know, we'll go gethim, and then, then I'll take
you in. So they track down, whatdo they track down, where that
license plate was or from, orwhy do they go to that area? So
Berly (13:07):
they look at security footage, and she follows the
truck basically, Oh, that'sright, the highway, yeah,
through the cameras. And so theygo to the area where the truck
was last seen, and they find,like, only one turn off, right?
So it basically takes them rightto the area.
LA (13:26):
And she doesn't want to pull up, like, just roll up on them,
so she kind of parks anddecides, like, they'll get out
and go. But she handcuffs Deanto the door and goes on her own.
Berly (13:39):
And by this point, Sam has gotten a look at his captors
before they let Alvin out. Theycame and gave him a sausage. Oh,
that's right. And I'm likewondering now that the episode's
done, what was in that sausage,and they'd only been feeding
Alvin once a day. And while thatwas happening, Sam got a look at
(13:59):
his captors, and it's just like,Well, me, they're just people,
just people, yeah, yeah. So weknow they're just up against
people at this point, yeah. So
LA (14:06):
deputy, her name is Kathleen. She does have a name,
not just deputy, goes up to thehouse where this barn is, where
Sam's being held. There's ahouse there. She goes up to it
and like, like a pre teen girlanswers the door, yeah, I'd
Berly (14:22):
say she was, she was like, maybe 1314,
LA (14:24):
yeah, she's a little rough around the edges. It
Berly (14:27):
was a really cute house outside, yeah, yeah. It was a
cute little could have donesomething with that, but yeah,
she's, she's real rough it,yeah, doesn't look like she's
taking a brush to that hair, no,in quite some time, yeah? Or the
shower, yeah? She looked alittle dirty. Yeah, it looked
like there was some dirt on herface and stuff. And she's acting
very timid at first,
LA (14:45):
right? So Kathleen's asking her, you know, Where's, where's
your dad? And she pulls out aphoto of Sam, asks if she's seen
him. And the girl takes thepicture from her, and then she's
like, playing with her, herbadge, or whatever. And I don't.
I don't think she says much, butexcept for then, she's like,
that's gonna this is that'sgonna hurt. And she says, what?
And her dad comes up behindKathleen and wax her.
Berly (15:08):
It's like, a shovel, I
LA (15:09):
think, yeah, it was, knocks her out, yeah? And the little
girl walks off with Dean'sphoto, or Sam's photo. You know,
she's
Berly (15:15):
like, staring at it as she walks off. I'm like, I would
have kept it too. Yeah, same. Iunderstand. I
LA (15:20):
get it. Then we have Kathleen in the cell that was
previously Alvin Jenkins, soshe's in there now with Sam, and
she's telling him that hiscousin's looking for him. And
he's like, thank goodness. AndGene is still still handcuffed
to the car, but he's he's asmart guy. He reaches for the
antenna on the car and gets itand is able to pick the handcuff
(15:47):
lock and get it out, get away.
Berly (15:49):
He's able to get away before more of them are coming,
because the dad, there's there'sthree guys and the girl, I
think, total so there's the dad,the two sons and the daughter,
the mom is dead. That's thelittle bit of information the
girl gave is that the mom wasdead. That's right, that's
right. And so the two sons aregoing out to get the cop car
(16:10):
right and hide it, but
LA (16:13):
Dean gets away, like, yeah, right in time, yeah. So they
take the and they take the carthat they have this lot that
has, like a ton of old cars fromall these people they've
probably killed. Dean finds thehouse or no first teeth. He goes
in the barn and sees Sam andKathleen.
Berly (16:28):
Yeah, they panned up from his feet. They show the door
open, and we don't know who itis yet, and they pan up from his
feet, but I knew it. I'm like,okay, oh yeah. I'm sold on this
show. If I can recognize JensenAckles from the waist down, no
problem. I knew it was Deanright away. I was like, Okay, I
think I can officially callmyself a fan.
Unknown (16:49):
But I was like, oh, here he's he's here to save the
day. Gonna get him out of theircages. Blah, blah, no, he says
he's gotta go find the key andhe'll be back for them. So he
goes to the house, sneaks in,and we oh, yeah, this was rough.
But there's a some that's thedad in the kitchen, and he is
(17:10):
like, at first he's like,chopping at something, and then
he pulls out like a they allsaw, and he's just sawing away.
That was cringe. It's yeah, thesound was not good. It was
terrible sound. And then deanwalked into what looked like a
makeshift wind chime. Is theonly thing I could think to call
it, but it's hung in the house.
Yeah? And it took me a second,but I realized whenever he kind
of looked at it like, what thefuck it was bones? Yeah, it was
(17:32):
human bones.
LA (17:37):
So Dean sees the keys, and he goes over and starts to pick
him up, but then he sees thisjar, and it's a jar full of
fucking teeth. There was amassive human teeth. And he
turns around, and the littlegirl's there, I can't remember
which, oh, she starts screamingfor her daddy,
Berly (17:55):
yeah, didn't she throw a knife at him and get his jacket
up? Because, yeah,
LA (17:58):
I thought that's right. I meant to tell you like, I
thought he had been stabbed, butit was yeah, she tossed the
knife at him and stuck hisjacket to the wall, yeah, yeah.
I thought he had been stabbed.
And whoever
Berly (18:08):
was the little girl who played that character, she ate,
she ate. Yeah, I loved her. Shedidn't do much, but when she was
on screen, she she was killingit. She was good. She did really
LA (18:22):
good. Yeah, uh. So Daddy comes in, did
Berly (18:26):
you just burp while you said, and so did I it sounded
like it through the headphones.
LA (18:32):
Yikes. Okay, daddy runs in, and then the the two brothers
come in, and they're like,Dean's put up pretty good fight.
Honestly, I was like, those aresome big old boys for him to be
fighting. And I don't I thinkthe dad ends up knocking Dean
out.
Berly (18:47):
Well, they got that hot poker thing too. That might have
been late. That was when he wastied up. Oh, okay, yeah, I know
we got another Rochester tiedup. I was like, well, it's Dean
this week. It's Dean this week.
LA (18:59):
They have him. They've got him tied up. After they've
knocked him out, he comes to andthey're they're wanting to know
if any more cops are coming.
That's when they pull out thepoker and threaten him with it.
And they do end up. They burnhim like on his shoulders,
chest, shoulder area, and thenthey threaten to take his eye.
And I was like, Oh God, please.
No, I can't do things with theeyes. Well, they basically
(19:23):
confess that they like huntingpeople like, that's the best
game to them. Guys hunted stuffall his life. But the best one
that makes you feel powerful
Berly (19:31):
are humans. And I thought that was interesting, because
the hunt that we saw with Alvinthe dickhead, yeah, it
LA (19:37):
was very short, yeah. I mean, I wouldn't really call
that a hunt. Yeah, I'd call thata chase. And
Berly (19:43):
you kept him in the cage for how many days, and only fed
him a sausage once a day. Sohe's already weak, but you want
to act like this makes you feelso powerful and so strong, and
it's so exhilarating, like youliterally starved him and then
let him out somewhere where hedoesn't know where he is. And
can't see and took all of twominutes. Didn't even let him get
(20:04):
very far to where you had to goand find him. You just sat there
hiding behind trees until hecame by you and then knocked him
on his ass and took him out.
Yeah, I was just like, You guysare losers. You're losers,
LA (20:20):
Sam, or, I'm sorry, Dean thinks, I mean, he's assuming
they're gonna let he has tochoose one of them to be hunted,
basically. So he picks Sam
Berly (20:28):
he's gonna have the best chance of surviving, right?
Exactly, thinking, however,
LA (20:34):
the Father, the daddy, tells his the son, Lee, to go and
shoot Sam in his cage and thendo the same to Kathleen and
Dean's like, what? That's notthe terms,
Berly (20:46):
right? Why'd you make me fucking choose to begin with?
Yeah, that's all you were gonnado is just go shoot them both in
their cages anyway.
LA (20:52):
And this dumb Lee ends up going in there and opening Sam's
cage. Even those dads said shoothim in the cage, yeah? Like, I
don't, but of course, Sam gets aleg up on him. He goes, Ah,
throws something. It was
Berly (21:11):
like a hinge or something that he got when he pulled that
giant metal thing down, yeah? Itwas like a bracket. Like, I
like, what he threw it? He went,Ah,
LA (21:20):
well, hey, it worked, because he ended up getting the
gun away from the guy, knockinghim out and tossing him into his
cage he was in, and I don't knowhow, how did he get Kathleen
out?
Berly (21:31):
Because the key was down there, because the guy used the
key to unlock and let Sam out,because he's a dumbass, which I
will say the dad, which on therecap here, it describes him as
PA. Yeah, Pa did give him thekey. He did give him the key and
tell him go shoot him in thecage. Why'd you give him the
key? Then true, yeah. Based offtheir dental hygiene, though, we
(21:52):
can't assume that they're thebrightest of the bunch, yeah,
yeah. They've never even heardof floss, no, or toothbrush.
Really, really, it was bad. Then
LA (22:03):
after a while, I mean, Lee's not coming back, the dad's
yelling for him. They decide togo investigate. They tell a
little girl to watch Dean, andshe's got this little tiny
knife, and she's like, puttingit up to his eye, threatening
him, taunting, yeah. And they gointo the barn, and they see the
Lee's and knocked out, and theystart looking around, and the
(22:27):
Kathleen out of some corner highup like a SpiderMan. Yeah, she
just, like, pounces on the otherbrother, and
Berly (22:36):
it was pretty badass.
LA (22:37):
I mean, good for her. Yeah, he does end up knocking her to
the ground, though, but yeah, Iwas impressed with
Berly (22:43):
her. He was twice her size. Oh, for sure. Yeah, and
LA (22:47):
the dad sees Sam, and Sam does like a nice little fast
somersault, yeah, to not getshot. And agile
Berly (22:57):
that Sam. Sam Chester, Sam, Sam Winchester, Sam Sam.
LA (23:05):
So Sam is still being shot at by the dad, and he manages to
distract the brother, and as heturns to like fire at Sam, Sam
ducks and he ends up shootinghis father. Yeah, dumbass. Sam
knocks Jared out, and then theygo and try to find Dean. But he
(23:26):
tells like, Kathleen's got oneof the guns and she's got it
pause on the ground. She'swatching him. She's like, I've
got this you go. And Sam kind oflike, hesitates for a minute,
and she's like, go, go. I thinkthe which is the dad says
something to her, and she'slike, You killed my brother,
which I forgot to mentionearlier, that the guy in the
picture was her brother, and hehad gone dismissing three years
Berly (23:49):
prior, which we found that out earlier, when her and
Sam were in the cages and Deancame in. She asked him, did you
see an old Mazda or somethinglike that, when he was talking
about, basically the cargraveyard. And he said, Yeah, I
did. And so that's when we foundout that that was her brothers
and her brother, that was herbrother in the picture, and that
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he's been missing for threeyears. Yeah, I
LA (24:11):
forgot mentioned that detail, yeah, and yeah. So he,
she tells him that he killed herbrother, and she's she says she
just wants to know why. And thismotherfucker smiling, smiles and
says, because it was fed. Yeah,I feel like that was a good
impression. It
Berly (24:30):
was a very good impression. I felt like I was
watching the show all overagain, well, but not my teeth.
No, okay, no, just, justauditory
LA (24:39):
and yeah, so she's She shoots him. Yeah, same. Would
have done the same. And
Berly (24:43):
you know what? Those cages were huge. Okay. I mean,
these were, these are some bigguys, the benders, the bender
family. They were some big guys.
So, I mean, it wouldn't havebeen comfortable, but they could
have squeezed Pa into one ofthose cages with one of the two
brothers, right? They could havesqueezed him in there. Yeah. So,
I mean, come on, shooting him inthe face works too, though. So
(25:03):
good for you. Kathleen
LA (25:07):
Sam's at the house to go and help Dean. They don't really
show they don't show him savingDean. Or
Berly (25:13):
no, Dean comes out and is basically just like the girls in
the closet. Yeah. So I guess hegot, he got loose somehow. I'm
guessing he got the knife fromher somehow. Or
LA (25:23):
well, no, Sam, I think Sam went in there and they because
they both came out of the house.
Oh, that's
Berly (25:28):
right, you're right.
You're right. They both. It wasKathleen who walked up to meet
them, yeah? And they told herthe girls in the closet, but we
don't see how that happened. No,
LA (25:36):
yeah. And she's walking with them and tells them, you know,
the place is going to beswimming, swarming with FBI and
everything here in the nexthour. So she thinks they should
probably go ahead and take off.
She's not going to be takingDean in anymore. They could
outer for being a murderer. Uh,I like, Dean asks for if they
can hitch a ride with her, andshe's like, get to walking,
(25:59):
yeah, get to stepping, bro. Andthat's pretty much it. That was
the episode. There's
Berly (26:07):
some banter, but I can't remember what the fuck they were
saying when they were walkingoff. Oh, that's what it was. I
think Sam said something aboutDean getting his ass beat by a
13 year old girl or something.
LA (26:17):
Yeah. And then dean was saying, You better not ever go
off missing like that again. Ohyeah, Sam's like, Oh, you're
worried about me.
Berly (26:24):
Very protective. I'm starting to see the wincest
stuff. I think I told you that Isaw like, a prompt or something
on Twitter or Tumblr where itwas like, Dean was talking about
Sam, and was like, he's mine.
I'm not a wincest shipper, butI'm just saying, watching the
show, knowing that exists, I seewhere y'all were picking that
(26:44):
up. Okay, I'll probably cut thatout. So to the lore, it was
never really confirmed that theywere cannibals. Yeah. I mean, I
feel like it was insinuated withthe bones and the teeth that
like in the home, and all ofthat daddy saw, and things we
never saw, what dad was sawingbut I think it was pretty much
(27:04):
implied that he was sawing upAlvin the dickhead, but it was
never really confirmed. So Ididn't go that route with the
lore. Oh, okay. I decided to goanother route with the whole
human hunting aspect. Oh
LA (27:18):
yes,
Berly (27:19):
1924 is the most dangerous game is a fictional
story by Richard Connell.
Basically, it's the story of aruthless hunter named Sanger
Rainsford, and he's stranded onship trap island. There he meets
general Zaroff. Zaroff is also ahunter who happens to be bored
(27:41):
with hunting animals, so hedecides to hunt Rainsford
instead. Rainsford relies on acombination of instinct and
strategy to outsmart and defeatZaroff. In the end, there's a
bunch of theories on like themorality of the story and themes
and all of that. It's also beenadapted dozens of times for
(28:03):
film, radio and television. Isaw, gosh, it was a pretty long
list of movies. None of themwere. I didn't recognize any of
them. And there was an actualmovie The most dangerous game,
like in the 1930s and theyapparently remade that this year
in 2022 yeah, I've never seenit. I haven't either, yeah, but
(28:24):
it'd be nice I've seen a previewfor it. Okay, yeah, so I haven't
seen any of the movies. No, themovies looked very familiar to
me. There's some other moviesthat seem to kind of not be
adaptations of the story, butseem to be inspired by, like,
ready or not? Oh, yeah, thatmovie's so good. I love it. And
also Ramsay Bolton and Game ofThrones as a television kind of
(28:45):
inspiration, which there was along list on Wikipedia for
television stuff where they'vehad characters who hunted humans
that that was something they didfor sport, something they did
for fun, in a bunch of series,but Ramsay Bolton was the one
that I actually thought of of myown and confirmed it was in the
list. Oh, nice from Game ofThrones. However, there's been
(29:05):
human hunting in real life inour history, for example, in
ancient Greece, the upper classof Sparta, this Sparta I regular
regularly practiced the stalkingand killing of members of their
(29:25):
servile helot population, helot,helot, H, E, l, o, t, who knows
such murders were carried outboth by the secret Police as a
means of keeping the helotscowed and unlikely to revolt.
And it was also carried out as apart of training for their
(29:46):
military. Wow. For Spartanyouths, children, it's in
children to go, yeah. So that'sone example of human hunting in
real life. Another one wasduring the Spanish. Civil War,
the killing practice becamepopular among the sons of
wealthy landowners because, ofcourse, it's always the
privilege to were doing thisright? Yeah, of course, the
(30:08):
hunts took place on horsebackand targeted landless peasants
as an extension of the whiteterror. They were jokingly
referred to as Reforma agriagrarian. Agrarian Reforma
agrarian, I don't know,referencing the mass grave the
(30:29):
victims would be dumped into.
Oh, wow. And the land reformsthe lower classes had been
attempting to attain.
LA (30:40):
I mean, I guess they didn't eat them. That's good.
Berly (30:44):
That's the win here.
LA (30:45):
I mean,
Berly (30:47):
between 1971 and 1983 however, 83 Yeah, so this is
more recent. There was a serialkiller named Robert Hans, and he
flew many of his victims intothe Alaskan wilderness, then
released them so that he couldhunt the women with a rifle and
(31:10):
a knife. Why is
LA (31:10):
it going to only be women?
Because women apparently
Berly (31:15):
demented fuck in Anchorage. Hansen was a
respected business owner knownfor his skill as a bow hunter,
the den in his home wasdecorated with hunting trophies
and animals mounted on thewalls. He even set a few bow
hunting records. But what no oneknew is that for more than a
(31:37):
decade, the Hunter had also beencollecting quote, unquote
trophies of another kind. No,no. Hansen mainly targeted sex
workers and exotic dancers fromaround Anchorage, because,
again, he's a demented, terribleperson. He would kidnap the
women and either drive or flythem in his private bush plane
(32:00):
out to his cabin in the middleof you know, in the middle of
nowhere. If they didn't put up afight, he would assault them and
then bring them back to town.
Oh, wow, threatening them intosecrecy. That's surprising.
Honestly, they're sex workers.
Just pay for it. Asshole, right?
Why do you need to feel a powertrip, or whatever the fuck is
your motivation? You own afucking plane, just pay for it.
(32:21):
Yeah. Anyways, those who did notcooperate, who fought back,
they're the ones who suffered atruly nightmarish fate out in
the wilderness. His favoritelocation was a long knit River.
Robert Hanssen would set thewomen free, and for a moment
they'd think that they had achance to escape. Then as they
(32:42):
ran for their lives, he wouldtrack them down, so he would
give them a head start, and thentrack them down, take his time
and literally try to hunt themlike he would a wild animal. He
would be armed with a knife, andI don't know gun. It's a rifle.
I don't I'm not going to readthis. I don't know what that
(33:03):
means. He'd torture the womenwith the chase for hours, even
sometimes days at a time. Andbecause they're in the middle of
nowhere, he knows they're notgoing to get rescued. He knows
they're not going to get awaywell. And
LA (33:16):
I mean, if it's that's where he lives, he knows the fucking
lay of the land too. So, right?
Berly (33:22):
And Alaskan wilderness people go missing out there all
the time because it's so hard tonavigate. When he would locate
his prey, he'd shoot them justlike they were game. He got
caught, and when faced with theevidence, in 1984 he confessed
to murdering 17 women andsexually assaulting another 30
(33:44):
women over a 12 year period oftime.
LA (33:47):
How did he get caught? I didn't tattle on him. Assaulted,
Berly (33:51):
I imagine so. I didn't, I didn't research that. Okay? I
don't have that on here. RobertHanssen was sentenced to 461
years plus life in prisonwithout parole. In 1984 he was
imprisoned at Spring CreekCorrectional Center in Seward
Alaska, where he died in 2014
LA (34:11):
Wow, crazy.
Berly (34:14):
It's insane that there were civilizations that hunting
humans was a regular practice,and certainly insane that we had
a serial killer out there doingthat in the 1980s Yeah? So to
close it out, I have anappropriate quote from Dean
Winchester. All right, demons, Iget people are crazy, yeah?
(34:35):
Cheers, cheers. Thank you forlistening to denim wrapped
LA (34:41):
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Berly (34:48):
This was fun, jerk. It always is,
LA (34:52):
bitch. You.
Music. Welcome to denim wrapped nightmares, Tipsy
exchange Podcast where weexplore the supernatural series,
episode by episode, over
LA (00:11):
drinks, we'll discuss the lore the gore and what we adore
about the Winchesters and theiradventures.
Berly (00:17):
I'm Burleigh and I'm a new fan of the series.
LA (00:20):
I'm LA, and I'm here long for the ride. Now let's get
tipsy. Hello LA, hello Burly.
Berly (00:30):
Last week, we watched nightmare and we got to revisit
some lore that we've alreadyresearched before, medical agina
and stranger Stranger Things.
Inspiration, of course,supernatural was the OG Stranger
Things,
LA (00:45):
obviously, yeah.
Berly (00:46):
So shout out. I
LA (00:47):
don't know why I just said obviously. It's not that's not
obvious.
Berly (00:51):
Well, if you've watched Stranger Things, which, if you
liked supernatural, I wouldimagine that you would watch
Stranger Things, yeah. So it'skind of obvious. I think it
could be obvious we met Max, atortured soul who was
unfortunately abused and he hadtelekinetic powers, and we found
out that his mother died inexactly the same way as Sam's.
(01:13):
So this story that they've beenthinking is very unique to them,
very special to the Winchesterfamily for 20 years. Turns out,
not so much. There's somethingelse going on here. So that was
a little I'm imagining, that's abreadcrumb that'll come I said a
breadcrumb, breadcrumb that willget picked up maybe later this
(01:39):
season, or maybe I know nextseason.
LA (01:42):
I was wondering, like, I mean, we obviously saw the next
episode, but I was like, are wejust, we're just gonna put a pin
in that. We're not gonnainvestigate that any further. I
Berly (01:50):
think so, because they've been, they've been picking up
little pins along the way, likein this episode. Oh, they how
they mentioned Dean, yeah, whenDean goes to the sheriff for
help, you know, she mentionsthat Dean, he's telling her
about Sam Winchester, and shebrings up Dean Winchester and
that he's dead, yeah? And ittook me a second to go, Oh,
(02:13):
yeah. That happened in skinwhere that shape shifter got
killed in the form of Dean. Andso Dean's been declared dead. I
kind of forgot about right? So Ithink it's probably going to be
something like that where it'sprobably maybe next week we'll
be okay revisiting that. Whoknows. We'll see. Who knows. But
(02:36):
this week was different from theother episodes that we've seen
so far, not so muchsupernatural. Yeah, creepy, just
creepy people. Creepy fuckingpeople. Terrible, terrible human
beings who straight up admitthat they do these things just
(02:57):
because it's fun. Yeah, yeah. Solet's, let's go into the recap
and talk about this week'sepisode, the benders. The
benders,
LA (03:08):
all right? Well, in the benders, we are in Minnesota,
Hibbing, Minnesota, and we seethis little boy in a in an
apartment, and he's looking outhis window. There's a guy down
there taking out his garbage,and all of a sudden he's hearing
these weird noises. And the boylike, he goes and looks under a
car, because that's where thenoise seems to be coming from,
(03:29):
and he doesn't see anything,stands up, and then he's dragged
under the car. And the littleboy sees this, and it's dark,
like we can't see what was underthe car. No, just the weird
noise. What was those? What
Berly (03:43):
called it a whining growl? Yeah, the little boy did.
LA (03:46):
So next we see the boys dressed in very nice state
police uniform,
Berly (03:52):
cool uniform, not hats and everything suits, not
pretending like hat. Yeah, youwere really happy with the hat.
Hat. They had the whole thenthey had the jackets with the
fur collar, yeah, the Sherpacollar. They looked good. They
looked very good. So last weekwe got them dressed up as
priests, and this week we gotthem dressed up as, I guess,
(04:13):
sheriffs or police officers orwhat have you the recap thing
said, state police. Okay, sostate policeman, ooh, I wonder
what we're gonna get next week,right? Are they gonna have
another costume next week? Idon't know. It was real nice
that
LA (04:25):
mom though. She was like, ready to have them out of her
apartment. I was like, Bitch.
I'd be like, you want a cup oftea? Stay a while.
Berly (04:33):
And you pointed out Sam's hair is getting longer. It's
kind of been at that weirdlength where his ears make it
flip. And it's finally, kind oflater in the episode. It was
still flipping, but it's gettingto where it's not doing that.
Yeah,
LA (04:46):
he looks He looked very good in this one. I
Berly (04:47):
mean, he looks good all the time, but the hair looked
better. Yeah, I
LA (04:50):
was just looking at him. I was like, that's different. I'm
not mad at it. So the little boytells the guys he doesn't
really, they don't get much for.
Remember, except for the oddnoise. He says that it was wet,
again, whining,
Berly (05:04):
growling. I think that's what he said, Yeah, I didn't
write it down, but I thinkthat's what he said.
LA (05:08):
Then the boys are at a bar doing their research. They're
really good researchers. I
Berly (05:13):
have to give it to him, yeah. Well, Dean's playing
darts, so Well, yeah.
LA (05:17):
I mean, they they trade off.
But Sam decides, you know, like,it's time to go. Dean wants to
do another round. But Sam'slike, No, we have an early day.
Sam, for some reason, leaves togo out in the parking lot while
Dean goes to the bathroom. Andhe's well,
Berly (05:32):
Dean told him to he was like, Go wait out in the car.
I'm gonna take a leap. Oh, didhe and I remembered thinking as
soon as he said that, and Samjust got up and walked out. I
looked at you, and I was like, Iwould not go sit outside by
myself. I would just stayperched right there and wait for
you to come out of the bathroom.
Yeah, absolutely. But we'rewomen, we're taught to not have
sense
LA (05:55):
that too. So yeah. So Sam's out, then he hears a sound.
Looks under a car, and it's alittle kitty cat scratching at
him. Sweet little, I think shescared him, yeah? And he kind of
laughs it off, um, but he hears,like the the noise that the
other guy heard. We get apicture of his feet from under
the car, and he's, he's takentwo which we don't see him get
(06:18):
taken. Yeah, we know, but he is,yeah, because Dean comes out and
starts freaking out that hecan't find him. And what did he
say in the last hour or so? Haveyou seen somebody? Yeah, and
Berly (06:28):
you and I were like, how long did it take you to take a
leap that you're asking people,have you been out here in the
last hour or so? How long wereyou in that bathroom? What did
you eat?
LA (06:38):
Then we see our sweet Sam in a big old cage. He's been taken,
thrown in a cage, and there'scage next to him, and it's the
first guy that was taken out asa real dick. Yeah, he literally
put that the first, this firstguy was a real dick.
Berly (06:55):
Great, minds, great, um, but
LA (06:57):
yeah, like, you would think, I mean, you would think he's
probably been there by himself,and he's just, like, rude to
Sam. I'd be like, happy to havesomebody else. I mean, I feel
bad that they're in thesituation with me, but at least
there's somebody there. Youknow, you're not alone. Yeah,
maybe you can work together andescape. But no, he was just kind
of a dick. Yeah,
Berly (07:15):
he did call him at one point. I think it's later in the
episode, he calls him Sammy, andSam goes, Don't call me Sammy.
We haven't heard that in awhile. That was fun.
LA (07:27):
Sam tries to pull on some cable cord, something or other.
Yeah, and I mean, he's reallytrying. He's struggling
Berly (07:35):
that tension Jared. How do I get that tension in the
arms and just his jaw and allthat you find, finds an
opportunity for it almost everyepisode.
LA (07:45):
So we see him. He's trying to pull this thing from the the
ceiling. I'm not sure what itis. I think it's something
electrical.
Berly (07:51):
I thought I was about to say it looked like one of those
really thick metal electricalcord, power cord things that
like when you're runningelectric to something outside,
right kind of thing?
LA (08:03):
Well, then we check in with Dean. He is at the local
sheriff's office, whatever, andthere's a lady deputy. She he
starts asking, if she can, whatdoes he ask her to look up
Berly (08:15):
he noticed there were security cameras that's right in
the parking lot when he waslooking for Sam, right, okay,
after he was in the bathroom foran hour or so,
LA (08:24):
and he has some cops, license or card or whatever ID
they
Berly (08:29):
got a badge, Washington, yeah,
LA (08:34):
Washington. So they get to talking, and that's when we get
the little nugget from skin,because she looks up Sam for
him, who he says is his cousin,and then she sees the Dean's
dead and wanted for murder,yeah, well, not wanted anymore,
but he was apparently associatedin it. The deputy does help him
(08:56):
out. She gets the footage andwhich, you know nowadays it'd be
video style, but she pulls outsome printed papers, screenshot
by screenshot. And there wasthis old truck that pulled out
shortly after Sam went outsideto the car, and they noticed
(09:16):
that the license plate is new,but the car's like, old and
rickety, so they figure it'sstolen. That was, like,
Berly (09:21):
dirty, yeah? Like the car was dirty, but the license plate
was bright white, right?
LA (09:25):
So they're like, Okay, probably stolen. And then, so
while she's showing him this,this, this old van drives by
them, and it has the sound that,like the little boy described,
yeah. I was like, Yeah, whichI'm like, I didn't see that van
again. So how did that, like,tie in?
Berly (09:43):
I guess it just made him think old, rickety car. Yeah,
would make a sound similar tothat. Wouldn't you say that
sounds like a whining growl orwhatever? So I think it was more
connecting old cars than itactually being the van, okay,
but it was a creepy. On with nowindows,
LA (10:01):
Oh, for sure. Yeah, yeah.
Then we we switch back to Sam,and he gets he's finally got, he
pulled that electrical cabledown, and as soon as he did
other guy's name, we'll justcall him dick. Other Guy. Dick,
his cage opens, yeah, and Sam'ssuspicious. He's like, No, that
was too easy. Like, I think thisis a trap. Of course, the guy
doesn't listen,
Berly (10:22):
yeah? Dick's like, peace out. I'm gonna try and go get
help later, Sam. He's
LA (10:25):
like, I'm gonna come back.
I'm gonna go, but then I'll comeback for you. And Sam's like,
No, this isn't it's not right?
And he's like, bye, Sam, andjust leave See ya. And then
outside of this barn, orwhatever he was in, there's just
conveniently a rusty knifesitting on the ground, the
ground, yeah, naturally, youknow, dime a dozen as it as it
(10:47):
typically happens, you know, andhe starts running, trying to get
out of town. Or he startsrunning. He starts running,
trying to get away. And hestarts to hear somebody, like,
coming after him. Somebodyknocks, somebody has some, like,
big stick, yeah, I was like, bigspear, and smacks him, knocks
him down, and he tries to cut,like, use the knife at him.
(11:09):
Doesn't work. Uh, sometimes hegets back up and starts running
again. And then they, kind of,there's two of them, and they
kind of lock him in, and he hitsa trip wire. What did the trip
wire do? Though,
Berly (11:19):
I think I just tripped him. Okay, yeah. I
LA (11:21):
was like, nothing fell or Yeah. And then it's, we see two
men, two burly, busted chainHey. Oh, that's funny. And they
have these, like, the theirsticks or whatever have, I think
it's like some sort of spear onthe end. And they both just
like, go to town on the guy andkill him.
Berly (11:42):
Yeah, they did show a close up shot of one of them
jabbing the spear through histhigh. Oh, that's
LA (11:49):
what it was. I do something, yeah? Oh, yeah. Oh,
Berly (11:53):
that made me clinch everything. Whenever they showed
that shot, I didn't like it,yeah.
LA (11:58):
We then see Dean is with the deputy, and they're chatting in
the car, and she runs his IDfrom the license or whatever,
Berly (12:09):
I think she said, badge number. Badge number is a badge,
yeah.
LA (12:12):
And she discovers that his badge has been stolen, and he is
a larger African American man,so she knows that Dean is not
who he said he was. He
Berly (12:23):
tried to be like, I lost weight and I have that skin
disease
LA (12:27):
that Michael Jackson's skin disease. Yeah, yeah, terrible.
Oh, by the way, the
Berly (12:31):
dickheads name is Alvin Jenkins. Alvin, okay, R I P.
Alvin, okay,
LA (12:36):
being a good cop, she's like, I gotta take you in. But
Dean tries to convince her. He'slike, come on, please. Like, at
least let me find my cousin, andthen you can I'll cooperate
whatever she likes. She doesn'twant to do it. But then she sees
she has this picture of her andsome guy on her visor, and she
kind of, like, looks at that,and then she decides, Okay, I'll
(12:57):
help you. You know, we'll go gethim, and then, then I'll take
you in. So they track down, whatdo they track down, where that
license plate was or from, orwhy do they go to that area? So
Berly (13:07):
they look at security footage, and she follows the
truck basically, Oh, that'sright, the highway, yeah,
through the cameras. And so theygo to the area where the truck
was last seen, and they find,like, only one turn off, right?
So it basically takes them rightto the area.
LA (13:26):
And she doesn't want to pull up, like, just roll up on them,
so she kind of parks anddecides, like, they'll get out
and go. But she handcuffs Deanto the door and goes on her own.
Berly (13:39):
And by this point, Sam has gotten a look at his captors
before they let Alvin out. Theycame and gave him a sausage. Oh,
that's right. And I'm likewondering now that the episode's
done, what was in that sausage,and they'd only been feeding
Alvin once a day. And while thatwas happening, Sam got a look at
(13:59):
his captors, and it's just like,Well, me, they're just people,
just people, yeah, yeah. So weknow they're just up against
people at this point, yeah. So
LA (14:06):
deputy, her name is Kathleen. She does have a name,
not just deputy, goes up to thehouse where this barn is, where
Sam's being held. There's ahouse there. She goes up to it
and like, like a pre teen girlanswers the door, yeah, I'd
Berly (14:22):
say she was, she was like, maybe 1314,
LA (14:24):
yeah, she's a little rough around the edges. It
Berly (14:27):
was a really cute house outside, yeah, yeah. It was a
cute little could have donesomething with that, but yeah,
she's, she's real rough it,yeah, doesn't look like she's
taking a brush to that hair, no,in quite some time, yeah? Or the
shower, yeah? She looked alittle dirty. Yeah, it looked
like there was some dirt on herface and stuff. And she's acting
very timid at first,
LA (14:45):
right? So Kathleen's asking her, you know, Where's, where's
your dad? And she pulls out aphoto of Sam, asks if she's seen
him. And the girl takes thepicture from her, and then she's
like, playing with her, herbadge, or whatever. And I don't.
I don't think she says much, butexcept for then, she's like,
that's gonna this is that'sgonna hurt. And she says, what?
And her dad comes up behindKathleen and wax her.
Berly (15:08):
It's like, a shovel, I
LA (15:09):
think, yeah, it was, knocks her out, yeah? And the little
girl walks off with Dean'sphoto, or Sam's photo. You know,
she's
Berly (15:15):
like, staring at it as she walks off. I'm like, I would
have kept it too. Yeah, same. Iunderstand. I
LA (15:20):
get it. Then we have Kathleen in the cell that was
previously Alvin Jenkins, soshe's in there now with Sam, and
she's telling him that hiscousin's looking for him. And
he's like, thank goodness. AndGene is still still handcuffed
to the car, but he's he's asmart guy. He reaches for the
antenna on the car and gets itand is able to pick the handcuff
(15:47):
lock and get it out, get away.
Berly (15:49):
He's able to get away before more of them are coming,
because the dad, there's there'sthree guys and the girl, I
think, total so there's the dad,the two sons and the daughter,
the mom is dead. That's thelittle bit of information the
girl gave is that the mom wasdead. That's right, that's
right. And so the two sons aregoing out to get the cop car
(16:10):
right and hide it, but
LA (16:13):
Dean gets away, like, yeah, right in time, yeah. So they
take the and they take the carthat they have this lot that
has, like a ton of old cars fromall these people they've
probably killed. Dean finds thehouse or no first teeth. He goes
in the barn and sees Sam andKathleen.
Berly (16:28):
Yeah, they panned up from his feet. They show the door
open, and we don't know who itis yet, and they pan up from his
feet, but I knew it. I'm like,okay, oh yeah. I'm sold on this
show. If I can recognize JensenAckles from the waist down, no
problem. I knew it was Deanright away. I was like, Okay, I
think I can officially callmyself a fan.
Unknown (16:49):
But I was like, oh, here he's he's here to save the
day. Gonna get him out of theircages. Blah, blah, no, he says
he's gotta go find the key andhe'll be back for them. So he
goes to the house, sneaks in,and we oh, yeah, this was rough.
But there's a some that's thedad in the kitchen, and he is
(17:10):
like, at first he's like,chopping at something, and then
he pulls out like a they allsaw, and he's just sawing away.
That was cringe. It's yeah, thesound was not good. It was
terrible sound. And then deanwalked into what looked like a
makeshift wind chime. Is theonly thing I could think to call
it, but it's hung in the house.
Yeah? And it took me a second,but I realized whenever he kind
of looked at it like, what thefuck it was bones? Yeah, it was
(17:32):
human bones.
LA (17:37):
So Dean sees the keys, and he goes over and starts to pick
him up, but then he sees thisjar, and it's a jar full of
fucking teeth. There was amassive human teeth. And he
turns around, and the littlegirl's there, I can't remember
which, oh, she starts screamingfor her daddy,
Berly (17:55):
yeah, didn't she throw a knife at him and get his jacket
up? Because, yeah,
LA (17:58):
I thought that's right. I meant to tell you like, I
thought he had been stabbed, butit was yeah, she tossed the
knife at him and stuck hisjacket to the wall, yeah, yeah.
I thought he had been stabbed.
And whoever
Berly (18:08):
was the little girl who played that character, she ate,
she ate. Yeah, I loved her. Shedidn't do much, but when she was
on screen, she she was killingit. She was good. She did really
LA (18:22):
good. Yeah, uh. So Daddy comes in, did
Berly (18:26):
you just burp while you said, and so did I it sounded
like it through the headphones.
LA (18:32):
Yikes. Okay, daddy runs in, and then the the two brothers
come in, and they're like,Dean's put up pretty good fight.
Honestly, I was like, those aresome big old boys for him to be
fighting. And I don't I thinkthe dad ends up knocking Dean
out.
Berly (18:47):
Well, they got that hot poker thing too. That might have
been late. That was when he wastied up. Oh, okay, yeah, I know
we got another Rochester tiedup. I was like, well, it's Dean
this week. It's Dean this week.
LA (18:59):
They have him. They've got him tied up. After they've
knocked him out, he comes to andthey're they're wanting to know
if any more cops are coming.
That's when they pull out thepoker and threaten him with it.
And they do end up. They burnhim like on his shoulders,
chest, shoulder area, and thenthey threaten to take his eye.
And I was like, Oh God, please.
No, I can't do things with theeyes. Well, they basically
(19:23):
confess that they like huntingpeople like, that's the best
game to them. Guys hunted stuffall his life. But the best one
that makes you feel powerful
Berly (19:31):
are humans. And I thought that was interesting, because
the hunt that we saw with Alvinthe dickhead, yeah, it
LA (19:37):
was very short, yeah. I mean, I wouldn't really call
that a hunt. Yeah, I'd call thata chase. And
Berly (19:43):
you kept him in the cage for how many days, and only fed
him a sausage once a day. Sohe's already weak, but you want
to act like this makes you feelso powerful and so strong, and
it's so exhilarating, like youliterally starved him and then
let him out somewhere where hedoesn't know where he is. And
can't see and took all of twominutes. Didn't even let him get
(20:04):
very far to where you had to goand find him. You just sat there
hiding behind trees until hecame by you and then knocked him
on his ass and took him out.
Yeah, I was just like, You guysare losers. You're losers,
LA (20:20):
Sam, or, I'm sorry, Dean thinks, I mean, he's assuming
they're gonna let he has tochoose one of them to be hunted,
basically. So he picks Sam
Berly (20:28):
he's gonna have the best chance of surviving, right?
Exactly, thinking, however,
LA (20:34):
the Father, the daddy, tells his the son, Lee, to go and
shoot Sam in his cage and thendo the same to Kathleen and
Dean's like, what? That's notthe terms,
Berly (20:46):
right? Why'd you make me fucking choose to begin with?
Yeah, that's all you were gonnado is just go shoot them both in
their cages anyway.
LA (20:52):
And this dumb Lee ends up going in there and opening Sam's
cage. Even those dads said shoothim in the cage, yeah? Like, I
don't, but of course, Sam gets aleg up on him. He goes, Ah,
throws something. It was
Berly (21:11):
like a hinge or something that he got when he pulled that
giant metal thing down, yeah? Itwas like a bracket. Like, I
like, what he threw it? He went,Ah,
LA (21:20):
well, hey, it worked, because he ended up getting the
gun away from the guy, knockinghim out and tossing him into his
cage he was in, and I don't knowhow, how did he get Kathleen
out?
Berly (21:31):
Because the key was down there, because the guy used the
key to unlock and let Sam out,because he's a dumbass, which I
will say the dad, which on therecap here, it describes him as
PA. Yeah, Pa did give him thekey. He did give him the key and
tell him go shoot him in thecage. Why'd you give him the
key? Then true, yeah. Based offtheir dental hygiene, though, we
(21:52):
can't assume that they're thebrightest of the bunch, yeah,
yeah. They've never even heardof floss, no, or toothbrush.
Really, really, it was bad. Then
LA (22:03):
after a while, I mean, Lee's not coming back, the dad's
yelling for him. They decide togo investigate. They tell a
little girl to watch Dean, andshe's got this little tiny
knife, and she's like, puttingit up to his eye, threatening
him, taunting, yeah. And they gointo the barn, and they see the
Lee's and knocked out, and theystart looking around, and the
(22:27):
Kathleen out of some corner highup like a SpiderMan. Yeah, she
just, like, pounces on the otherbrother, and
Berly (22:36):
it was pretty badass.
LA (22:37):
I mean, good for her. Yeah, he does end up knocking her to
the ground, though, but yeah, Iwas impressed with
Berly (22:43):
her. He was twice her size. Oh, for sure. Yeah, and
LA (22:47):
the dad sees Sam, and Sam does like a nice little fast
somersault, yeah, to not getshot. And agile
Berly (22:57):
that Sam. Sam Chester, Sam, Sam Winchester, Sam Sam.
LA (23:05):
So Sam is still being shot at by the dad, and he manages to
distract the brother, and as heturns to like fire at Sam, Sam
ducks and he ends up shootinghis father. Yeah, dumbass. Sam
knocks Jared out, and then theygo and try to find Dean. But he
(23:26):
tells like, Kathleen's got oneof the guns and she's got it
pause on the ground. She'swatching him. She's like, I've
got this you go. And Sam kind oflike, hesitates for a minute,
and she's like, go, go. I thinkthe which is the dad says
something to her, and she'slike, You killed my brother,
which I forgot to mentionearlier, that the guy in the
picture was her brother, and hehad gone dismissing three years
Berly (23:49):
prior, which we found that out earlier, when her and
Sam were in the cages and Deancame in. She asked him, did you
see an old Mazda or somethinglike that, when he was talking
about, basically the cargraveyard. And he said, Yeah, I
did. And so that's when we foundout that that was her brothers
and her brother, that was herbrother in the picture, and that
(24:09):
he's been missing for threeyears. Yeah, I
LA (24:11):
forgot mentioned that detail, yeah, and yeah. So he,
she tells him that he killed herbrother, and she's she says she
just wants to know why. And thismotherfucker smiling, smiles and
says, because it was fed. Yeah,I feel like that was a good
impression. It
Berly (24:30):
was a very good impression. I felt like I was
watching the show all overagain, well, but not my teeth.
No, okay, no, just, justauditory
LA (24:39):
and yeah, so she's She shoots him. Yeah, same. Would
have done the same. And
Berly (24:43):
you know what? Those cages were huge. Okay. I mean,
these were, these are some bigguys, the benders, the bender
family. They were some big guys.
So, I mean, it wouldn't havebeen comfortable, but they could
have squeezed Pa into one ofthose cages with one of the two
brothers, right? They could havesqueezed him in there. Yeah. So,
I mean, come on, shooting him inthe face works too, though. So
(25:03):
good for you. Kathleen
LA (25:07):
Sam's at the house to go and help Dean. They don't really
show they don't show him savingDean. Or
Berly (25:13):
no, Dean comes out and is basically just like the girls in
the closet. Yeah. So I guess hegot, he got loose somehow. I'm
guessing he got the knife fromher somehow. Or
LA (25:23):
well, no, Sam, I think Sam went in there and they because
they both came out of the house.
Oh, that's
Berly (25:28):
right, you're right.
You're right. They both. It wasKathleen who walked up to meet
them, yeah? And they told herthe girls in the closet, but we
don't see how that happened. No,
LA (25:36):
yeah. And she's walking with them and tells them, you know,
the place is going to beswimming, swarming with FBI and
everything here in the nexthour. So she thinks they should
probably go ahead and take off.
She's not going to be takingDean in anymore. They could
outer for being a murderer. Uh,I like, Dean asks for if they
can hitch a ride with her, andshe's like, get to walking,
(25:59):
yeah, get to stepping, bro. Andthat's pretty much it. That was
the episode. There's
Berly (26:07):
some banter, but I can't remember what the fuck they were
saying when they were walkingoff. Oh, that's what it was. I
think Sam said something aboutDean getting his ass beat by a
13 year old girl or something.
LA (26:17):
Yeah. And then dean was saying, You better not ever go
off missing like that again. Ohyeah, Sam's like, Oh, you're
worried about me.
Berly (26:24):
Very protective. I'm starting to see the wincest
stuff. I think I told you that Isaw like, a prompt or something
on Twitter or Tumblr where itwas like, Dean was talking about
Sam, and was like, he's mine.
I'm not a wincest shipper, butI'm just saying, watching the
show, knowing that exists, I seewhere y'all were picking that
(26:44):
up. Okay, I'll probably cut thatout. So to the lore, it was
never really confirmed that theywere cannibals. Yeah. I mean, I
feel like it was insinuated withthe bones and the teeth that
like in the home, and all ofthat daddy saw, and things we
never saw, what dad was sawingbut I think it was pretty much
(27:04):
implied that he was sawing upAlvin the dickhead, but it was
never really confirmed. So Ididn't go that route with the
lore. Oh, okay. I decided to goanother route with the whole
human hunting aspect. Oh
LA (27:18):
yes,
Berly (27:19):
1924 is the most dangerous game is a fictional
story by Richard Connell.
Basically, it's the story of aruthless hunter named Sanger
Rainsford, and he's stranded onship trap island. There he meets
general Zaroff. Zaroff is also ahunter who happens to be bored
(27:41):
with hunting animals, so hedecides to hunt Rainsford
instead. Rainsford relies on acombination of instinct and
strategy to outsmart and defeatZaroff. In the end, there's a
bunch of theories on like themorality of the story and themes
and all of that. It's also beenadapted dozens of times for
(28:03):
film, radio and television. Isaw, gosh, it was a pretty long
list of movies. None of themwere. I didn't recognize any of
them. And there was an actualmovie The most dangerous game,
like in the 1930s and theyapparently remade that this year
in 2022 yeah, I've never seenit. I haven't either, yeah, but
(28:24):
it'd be nice I've seen a previewfor it. Okay, yeah, so I haven't
seen any of the movies. No, themovies looked very familiar to
me. There's some other moviesthat seem to kind of not be
adaptations of the story, butseem to be inspired by, like,
ready or not? Oh, yeah, thatmovie's so good. I love it. And
also Ramsay Bolton and Game ofThrones as a television kind of
(28:45):
inspiration, which there was along list on Wikipedia for
television stuff where they'vehad characters who hunted humans
that that was something they didfor sport, something they did
for fun, in a bunch of series,but Ramsay Bolton was the one
that I actually thought of of myown and confirmed it was in the
list. Oh, nice from Game ofThrones. However, there's been
(29:05):
human hunting in real life inour history, for example, in
ancient Greece, the upper classof Sparta, this Sparta I regular
regularly practiced the stalkingand killing of members of their
(29:25):
servile helot population, helot,helot, H, E, l, o, t, who knows
such murders were carried outboth by the secret Police as a
means of keeping the helotscowed and unlikely to revolt.
And it was also carried out as apart of training for their
(29:46):
military. Wow. For Spartanyouths, children, it's in
children to go, yeah. So that'sone example of human hunting in
real life. Another one wasduring the Spanish. Civil War,
the killing practice becamepopular among the sons of
wealthy landowners because, ofcourse, it's always the
privilege to were doing thisright? Yeah, of course, the
(30:08):
hunts took place on horsebackand targeted landless peasants
as an extension of the whiteterror. They were jokingly
referred to as Reforma agriagrarian. Agrarian Reforma
agrarian, I don't know,referencing the mass grave the
(30:29):
victims would be dumped into.
Oh, wow. And the land reformsthe lower classes had been
attempting to attain.
LA (30:40):
I mean, I guess they didn't eat them. That's good.
Berly (30:44):
That's the win here.
LA (30:45):
I mean,
Berly (30:47):
between 1971 and 1983 however, 83 Yeah, so this is
more recent. There was a serialkiller named Robert Hans, and he
flew many of his victims intothe Alaskan wilderness, then
released them so that he couldhunt the women with a rifle and
(31:10):
a knife. Why is
LA (31:10):
it going to only be women?
Because women apparently
Berly (31:15):
demented fuck in Anchorage. Hansen was a
respected business owner knownfor his skill as a bow hunter,
the den in his home wasdecorated with hunting trophies
and animals mounted on thewalls. He even set a few bow
hunting records. But what no oneknew is that for more than a
(31:37):
decade, the Hunter had also beencollecting quote, unquote
trophies of another kind. No,no. Hansen mainly targeted sex
workers and exotic dancers fromaround Anchorage, because,
again, he's a demented, terribleperson. He would kidnap the
women and either drive or flythem in his private bush plane
(32:00):
out to his cabin in the middleof you know, in the middle of
nowhere. If they didn't put up afight, he would assault them and
then bring them back to town.
Oh, wow, threatening them intosecrecy. That's surprising.
Honestly, they're sex workers.
Just pay for it. Asshole, right?
Why do you need to feel a powertrip, or whatever the fuck is
your motivation? You own afucking plane, just pay for it.
(32:21):
Yeah. Anyways, those who did notcooperate, who fought back,
they're the ones who suffered atruly nightmarish fate out in
the wilderness. His favoritelocation was a long knit River.
Robert Hanssen would set thewomen free, and for a moment
they'd think that they had achance to escape. Then as they
(32:42):
ran for their lives, he wouldtrack them down, so he would
give them a head start, and thentrack them down, take his time
and literally try to hunt themlike he would a wild animal. He
would be armed with a knife, andI don't know gun. It's a rifle.
I don't I'm not going to readthis. I don't know what that
(33:03):
means. He'd torture the womenwith the chase for hours, even
sometimes days at a time. Andbecause they're in the middle of
nowhere, he knows they're notgoing to get rescued. He knows
they're not going to get awaywell. And
LA (33:16):
I mean, if it's that's where he lives, he knows the fucking
lay of the land too. So, right?
Berly (33:22):
And Alaskan wilderness people go missing out there all
the time because it's so hard tonavigate. When he would locate
his prey, he'd shoot them justlike they were game. He got
caught, and when faced with theevidence, in 1984 he confessed
to murdering 17 women andsexually assaulting another 30
(33:44):
women over a 12 year period oftime.
LA (33:47):
How did he get caught? I didn't tattle on him. Assaulted,
Berly (33:51):
I imagine so. I didn't, I didn't research that. Okay? I
don't have that on here. RobertHanssen was sentenced to 461
years plus life in prisonwithout parole. In 1984 he was
imprisoned at Spring CreekCorrectional Center in Seward
Alaska, where he died in 2014
LA (34:11):
Wow, crazy.
Berly (34:14):
It's insane that there were civilizations that hunting
humans was a regular practice,and certainly insane that we had
a serial killer out there doingthat in the 1980s Yeah? So to
close it out, I have anappropriate quote from Dean
Winchester. All right, demons, Iget people are crazy, yeah?
(34:35):
Cheers, cheers. Thank you forlistening to denim wrapped
LA (34:41):
nightmares. Follow us on Twitter or Instagram, leave a
review and let us know how wecan get involved in the fandom.
Berly (34:48):
This was fun, jerk. It always is,
LA (34:52):
bitch. You.
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