Denizen

Denizen

How might we envision a society that is more equitable, caring, and regenerative? And if we could envision such a future, how might we transition from where we are today? The Denizen podcast explores these big questions. Our conversations span six themes: economics, politics, technology, culture, justice, and consciousness.

Episodes

April 29, 2025 62 mins

In this episode of the Denizen podcast, host Jenny Stefanotti and activist Julia Rhodes Davis delve into the concept of 'white work,' which goes beyond confronting and dismantling racialized identities. They discuss the importance of understanding personal legacy, taking accountability for ancestors' actions, and taking actions individually to repair past harms. They also discuss the inner, interpersonal, and cultural aspects of th...

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We are incredibly fortunate to welcome Tema Okun to the Denizen podcast for this important conversation. Tema is the author of the influential 1999 paper "White Supremacy Culture" and has been a leader in the racial justice movement for over 35 years. In this insightful episode, Jenny and Tema explore the pervasive influence of white supremacy culture in society. They discuss the concept's historical context, its impact on both per...

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April 2, 2025 65 mins

This conversation features Tyson Yunkaporta, academic, arts critic, researcher, and member of the Apalech Clan in far north Queensland. Tyson is the author of Sand Talk: How Indigenous Thinking Can Save the World; Right Story, Wrong Story: How to Have Fearless Conversations in Hell; and Snake Talk: How the World’s Ancient Serpent Stories Can Guide Us.

Unlike our typical episodes which focus on a topic, here Jenny embraces Tyson's ge...

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March 12, 2025 65 mins

In this conversation Jenny and Jasmine discuss:

  • Four common internalized stories we have about money
  • Money trauma
  • The importance of talking about money
  • Jasmine's analogy of a water supply
  • Philosophical questions of enough and fairness
  • Banking: extractive vs. sustainable and community-oriented options
  • Public banking
  • Consumption decisions and Jasmine's no Amazon policy
  • The irony of conscious consumption
  • The role of third party certificatio...
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This powerful conversation explores the relationship between decolonization and consciousness. Ashanti is a systems change agent focused on helping organizations deconstruct dominant narratives of colonization and replace them with life affirming narratives that support a regenerative future. She believes that true transformation must begin within, guiding leaders to embrace spiritual coherence and walk their talk.

Jenny and Ashant...

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February 12, 2025 68 mins

This episode builds on many prior conversations exploring work that we can do on ourselves, including living authentically, trauma and the nervous system, nonviolent communication, transforming relational conflict, and optimal zone resilience. It demonstrates how the work on ourselves extends upwards into the organization context, and further amplifies our impact at a systemic level.

In this conversation Jenny and Diana discuss:

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Ethnocide is a word Barrett both coined and resurrected, referring to the destruction of a people’s culture while keeping the people. From Barrett’s point of view, Trump’s re-election is not cause for disbelief, but a glaring reminder of what America has been since its inception: a country founded by white men for the purposes of wealth accumulation, whose rhetoric of freedom and equality has always been tenuous alongside its preva...

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Melanie Rieback is a cybersecurity entrepreneur and the founder of Nonprofit Ventures, an organization dedicated to supporting post growth entrepreneurs.  She runs an incubator to support post growth entrepreneurs and teaches a course at the University of Amsterdam on post growth entrepreneurship. Her lectures are available on YouTube, linked below.

This episode builds on a long series of conversations on this podcast exploring econ...

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Consciousness is one of the six themes of the Denizen podcast and the role of psychedelics is an important subset of that inquiry. It's an honor to bring Rick Doblin to the podcast with this episode; he has been at the forefront of the movement since founding the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies (MAPS) in 1986. Rick is joined by Nirvan Mullick, filmmaker and founder of Interconnected Media, who has been working...

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November 13, 2024 63 mins

Ferananda Ibarra is the CEO of the Coventina Foundation, co-founder of the Metacurrency Project, and expert in utilizing the decentralized web to enable economic innovation, collective intelligence, and the commons.

In this conversation we explore the role of currency innovation in economic innovation and regenerative economics.  Fernanda has such an incredible range of experience and knowledge that she brings to bear with her work ...

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October 25, 2024 66 mins

This episode citizen’s assemblies, which are similar to jury duty, but for policy. Over the course of several months, a representative group of everyday citizens comes together to understand and deliberate issues, ultimately making policy recommendations. They’re very compelling as a compliment to traditional policy making processes, as citizens do not face the incentive challenges that elected officials do.

Citizen’s assemblies hav...

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October 9, 2024 70 mins

Resources:

  • Development in Progress: https://consilienceproject.org/development-in-progress/

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If you’re wondering how we might reform capitalism to be less extractive and more regenerative, this conversation is for you.  Our guests Chelsea Robinson and Jay Standish have just published a book, Assets in Common, sharing recent research on what is happening in the most progressive corners of the current economic landscape.  

 

We discuss shared and stewardship governance models, which yield a more equitable, more purpose-driven ...

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August 21, 2024 76 mins

Over the last few episodes we’ve been exploring work that we can do on ourselves and in intimate relationships. This conversation builds on those by extending that individual work into the group and organizational level.   We explore power and examine the patterns that show up at all organizational levels, from teams to organizations to coalitions to movements.

In this conversation Jenny and Ted cover:

  • Power and it's relationshi...
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In this episode we’re discussing healing trauma, specifically what is required to address trauma at the root: in our nervous systems.  This topic is critical because what most of us don’t realize is how many people live in a perpetually dysregulated state due to unresolved trauma.  This leaves us with an ongoing baseline of reactivity, hypervigilance, and anxiety that spills over into every area of our lives.  Very often our unreso...

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In this episode we’re discussing conflict resolution, in particular, the distinction between an adversarial paradigm, that all of us unwittingly hold, and a restorative paradigm, that gets us what we ultimately want: healthy, thriving relationships with those closest to us .  The difference between the two is quite literally life changing. In the former hurt leads to disconnection and distance, with a slow and steady degradation of...

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In this episode we delve deep into how we can live more authentic lives, in alignment with our true selves.

Our guest is Maria Camara Serrano, co-director of the Hoffman Institute's international division. In addition to her work leading the Hoffman Institute internationally, Maria is trained in Gestalt Therapy, Mindfulness, and Emotion-Focused Therapy.  She has a PhD in psychology and has been studying and practicing Buddhism for ...

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In this episode we build on the two part series on consensual non-monogamy by discussing modern family structures and the work underway to support them.

Our guests, Alexander Chen and Health Schechinger are both doing remarkable work in this field.

In this conversation we discuss:

  • The relationship between consensual non-monogamy and the LGBTQ+ movement
  • What family means
  • Why this is a civil right issue
  • Legal work underway to support n...
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In this episode Jenny and Jessica discuss:

  • The neurochemisty of lust, attraction, and love
  • Consensual non-monogamy (CNM) and social justice: punitive vs. restorative vs. transformational models
  • How CNM helps us surface and heal trauma and attachment issues
  • How CNM teaches us to change dominant paradigms and stories within us
  • Why CNM leads to a change in consciousness and evolution of the self
  • How embarking on a CNM journey is similar...
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November 8, 2023 70 mins

In this conversation Jenny and Robert discuss:

  • What the optimal zone is and how it relates to our nervous system
  • What the defensive zone is and how it relates to our nervous system
  • How our triggers are amplified by past trauma, agitation from other events of the day, and chronic stress
  • How we can break the cycle of reflexive response when we are triggered and develop new patterns to become less triggered next time
  • The notion of opti...
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