French Cornerbacks Defend the Sclant While Edward Regis Funds Royal Rivalry

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I woke up 1 morning just a regular schmo.
Green Bay was restless. Spirit ran low and then it hit
me. I had to let it show.
So shout it so loud. Go, pack.
Go. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome

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back to Derailed. I forgot how I normally intro
this pod, so we're just making it up on the fly.
I'm JJ. He's Jake.
Jake, do you mind if we do a newsegment presented by Redacted
Energy? Sure, let's.
All right. Yeah, This, this segment is

(02:32):
called Who's Watching? All right, you know who's not
watching tonight? Tyler Derschel Bozo texted me
and said that he's not going to be here tonight.
What a chump, chump. So, Tyler, if you're listening
back on the replay, and I hope you are, you're a chump.
But only tonight. Usually you're a swell,
upstanding fellow. Yes, you bail on us.

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De facto chump Garrett Stritzel watching us live on Facebook.
Garrett long time no see. Join us. derailedfootball.com
takes you to the YouTube page. Stay plugged in.
Been missing you. Sometimes I go back and I I

(03:16):
watch old episodes of derailed from when we were on the other
on the other YouTube channel because I see names pop up in
the chat that were frequent Flyers here, regular
contributors in the chat. And I'm like, man, I miss these
people. So Garrett Stritzel been missing
you. So glad that you're tuning in

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right now. Let's see here.
Got another one. Jake, do you mind if we can do a
new segment presented by redacted energy?
Sure. This is called this is called
burn. You asked you asked in the chat.
Where is JJ? Many are asking and too old for

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this, said J JS probably in therapy for the trauma Mica put
him through on Sunday. Dude, Yeah, check this out.
Look at the here's so here here's the the thumbnail that I
made of JJ McCarthy just absolutely getting rocked by the
the Packers defenders. Here's the photo that's based

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on. Why is it not on screen?
I clicked it. Clicking it again, it says there
was an issue with your file. Why is there an issue with my
file? That's tough.
It worked earlier when I when I tested it, it says there was an
issue with your file again. All right, you know what?
There's more than one way to skin a cat.

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I can open it. I can open it in my browser and
let's show the browser tab, share screen, browser tab there,
but a boom. This is the photo that I was
basing this on. Wow.
About it. Looks like he's dropping a deuce

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on the field, which lines up pretty well with his stat line.
Yeah. JJ McCarthy is absolutely
horrific. Horrific at football.
Can DJ, I I have a question for you.
OK. Yeah.
Is it, is it, is it that was that the segment?

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Does JJ McCarthy not deserve thename JJ 'cause that's absolutely
true. I'm offended.
No, no, that's not the question.This is from a new segment
presented by Redacted Energy. It's called Around the League,
OK. OK.
Quite a few things. I already know the answer JSN
whatever the question is, the answer is JSN.
Well, I hope not. This would that wouldn't make a
lot of sense in this question. Unfortunately, you're starting

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hold on, JJ, you're starting at.I know, I know what it is.
It's it's this. Is it Wix?
No, no, that's that. We'll get to that.
I have something for that. Can we do a new segment
sponsored by REDACTED called is it Wix?
This one cannot be Wix. Unfortunately, this the answer
would be no. JJ, you're starting a franchise,
OK? You are starting a franchise and

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you have to have a QB, OK? You have to have a QBJJ McCarthy
or Shudder Sanders Hunt. Nope, doesn't, can't do that.
Got to pick one. You must pick one.
You must pick one NFL quarterback.
You must pick. Why do I not get an NFL

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quarterback? They're both terrible.
It's too bad. You got to pick one between the
two of them. Got to pick one between the two.
You know what I would actually take JJ because he doesn't come
with he doesn't come with Coach Prime No, but he comes with 9
all the time. But he comes with 9.

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That's true that's true, But youknow what is 9 I can I can
ignore I can ignore 9. I don't think I can ignore coach
prime. I I think I think J JS been
ignoring 9. Honestly, where is 9?
I think he kind of need 9. Serious question, serious
question. Who would you rather, Shadur

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Sanders or Brani? Cause like, either way you're
going to have an overbearing dad.
I feel like. I feel like I'd rather have
brownie fingers in the mix. I think I'd rather have brawnie.
Have you ever? So do you pick the jabulations?
You've got Jason, you're pickinghim.
That's what you're picking you. I think you said you're picking

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him. I'm changing my answer.
I'm going shudur. OK, OK, I'm going Shudur because
JJ McCarthy has a very punchableface and Shudder does not.
I see Shudder maybe. I don't know.
I don't want to get cancelled. We don't know.

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Durer, he's he's played a game in 1/4.
JJ McCarthy's played 6-7 games, you know.
So have we seen enough? Do you think, do you think Mile,
do you think JJ with an offseason with McCarthy?

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Yeah. That if if you have the
franchise and say you have O'Connell, right, you think you
can get the footwork and the mechanics fixed in an offseason,
do you feel comfortable if if you go, if the McCarthy
direction, does that sway you atall?
Like, like, OK, I have the offseason to tweak the mechanics
because like they were talking about like he needs to be
tweaking to a canex. I don't know if O'Connell said

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that Tuesday or Wednesday of last week and I'm sitting here
thinking like, how how are you planning to do that mid season?
That's like to me that the the equivalent is like an amateur
going, Oh, you know what I'm going to do on this golf trip?
I'm going to change my I'm goingto go through swing changes.
What do you mean? You're already on the trip?
There's no time for that. Or, you know, I've got a a

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tennis major in a in a week. I'm going to.
I'm going to try to fix everything wrong with me
swinging the tennis racket mechanically.
Like, how is that going to? How is that going to change in
days? You need a full offseason for
that. It's just not happened in days.
Somebody talks about changing a quarterback's footwork.

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I always think about Luke Gutsy trying to change Justin Fields
footwork to match what Aaron Rodgers was.
It was just such a telling thingof like, Luke Getzi doesn't know
what the hell he's doing. He has no clue, like what the
purpose of quarterback footwork is, which is like, huh, maybe

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you shouldn't have made your wide receiver coach be a
quarterback's coach. Maybe you should have had a
quarterback be a quarterback's coach.
You're right. So who's the what's the official
pick? I just want to make sure we're
landing on the the pick here. It's supposed to be a tough

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question, but now you got to pick.
No, here's the thing. But this is an NFL franchise.
Yes, I want to have a good quarterback.
Neither of these two are a good quarterback.
Too bad. It's tough.
The answer cannot be I these arenot quarterbacks.

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I need a quarterback. You have they're not.
You have to pick one. The answer can't be I can't pick
either of these guys. You have to pick.
We will we will revisit this in a year.
I'm clipping this and we're revisiting it in a year.
All right, here's the thing. I'm, I am going to pick JJ and
the reason I'm going to pick JJ is because I think I, I think

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that that pick is more likely toage well than a shooter pick
would be. Because although both of them
are terrible today and neither of them have a lot of tools that
I really want to develop. JJ is in a good situation with
a, with a great coach who is likely to get some decent

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results out of him and turn him into a somewhat decent player at
some point down the rift. So for that reason, I think that
the JJ pick is more likely to age.
Well, I can't. I can't imagine Shudur remaining
in Cleveland very long. And so then it's just a matter

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of like, where does he end up after Cleveland?
Is it a good situation? Is it a place where he's
actually going to get developed?Is it a place he's actually
going to get some playing time? How does he mature as he grows
up? Not that I think JJ is mature.
I don't think he is, but yeah, Imean, like, what would you

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rather do, vomit or diarrhea? Like pick one, man, you got to
have a fun time. So pick one.
Yeah, but it's diarrhea after incredibly spicy wings and
they're as spicy coming out the other end.
That's fine. I can deal with one end.
I'm dealing. I ain't dealing with the other

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one end is is used more often. I'm not dealing with the other
one. That's pretty.
It's pretty simple. That's that's pretty simple.
That's easy. I've I've seen your bathroom.
You have a very pristine, clean bathroom.
I can vouch. Oh, there you go.

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Let's see here tool for that says Derschel is a bears fan
tonight. I guess so.
I guess so. What a what a betrayer.
What a he's abandoned us. This is just sickening.
A fam wants to know emo music oris it emu?

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It is. How did he know it was the Limu
emu? I didn't tell him.
I didn't say anything. I do have a a new segment.
I'd like to wait. Wait, we're not telling you my
thing yet? Redacted.
I got two more questions for you.

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Will Miles Garrett break the sack record?
Yes or no? He's at 18 right now.
Isn't the record 23 or 2222 1/2?Will he break 2 1/2?
Yeah, yes. Will he?
Yeah, I'll say he will. Will he break it before?
I'll say he will because, well, he's going to have to do it

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before Christmas because they'rethere's only like 1 game after
Christmas. They're going to be in
technically 2, but yeah, that's so by by week 16, is he doing
it? No, not by week 16.
OK, he is. It's just a lot to ask.
It's it's what 5 sacks in in four games.
He is. I I will, I'm going to point

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this out. He is playing the Niners next
week. OK, then he plays the Titans.
Oh, he's he might get all five in the Titans game.
Say he's got So the four games before Christmas are 40 diners,
Titans, Bears, bills. Feels like he's going to get it
before Christmas. See, Josh Allen is hard to sack

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as yet. Absolutely.
Texans were all over it. Texans were all over it.
The Titans game is going to be hilarious, Adam Huddle says.
Can't believe the guy with limited traits who never threw
the ball in college is bad than the NFL, right?

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Have you seen the graphics of Actually, I think I might have.
Did you grab it? Did I bookmark one earlier
today? Of course I didn't because I
suck. Somebody put together a graphic
of JJ McCarthy's stats, his per game stats before and after.

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Oh, that's one of the best tweets ever.
It is incredible. So his on the season, I remember
this vividly on the season he had 18 touchdown passes and
three interceptions before Connor Stallions resigned.
And then afterwards, I think he was one and one.

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Yes. He was a he was a play action
merchant and a great league to be a play action merchant, but
they haven't done it enough. I I occasionally like to go to
the Eagles too old receipts, especially receipts of me

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cramping on on the draft prospects that I really hated.
And JJ McCarthy was in there andlike, just go and savor those
after The dude is terrible in the NFL.
And Jake, I was, I was looking at something the other day.
Yeah. And I wanted to post it here on

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the podcast live for people to see.
And I I just kind of couldn't. And here's what it was.
I went back and I found an old conversation that you and I had
a few years ago. This was in the lead up to the
2020, what, three draft 23 draft.
Yeah. And my recollection was correct

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in this conversation, you were telling me how high you were on
Luke Musgrave and that you thought he was going to be good
in the NFL. That's I wanted sounds like I
wanted to bring this. I wanted to bring this on.
No, this is real. I'm not like no, this is AI
wanted to bring it on here. This is A and I could this was

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in February of 2023. Yeah, this is I couldn't put it
up fabrication because your follow up question to me was why
do you have Tucker Craft ranked so low?
And I said I still have some more tape I need to watch of
him, but I really want to see more production.
I think he's kind of just traitsy.

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And so for that reason, I couldn't I couldn't put the
screenshot on the see, we know it can't be real.
You would never say that by the time of the draft, you would
never I had talked myself into Tucker craft.
You would never. But at the time that I'm trying
to like gotcha you with your Luke Musgrave hype, I was low on

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Tucker craft at that point. And so it's just a bad look for
both of us. So I propose that we just bury
this, never speak of it again. I mean, I've never heard of any
of this, so I don't know what you're talking about.
I've never heard of this conversation.
This is February, February 2023.In in our old Discord server.

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It was. Oh, it was Discord.
Yeah, it was our old Discord server.
I figured it was like, it's still there.
I thought it was in like a pod. No, no, no, it's still there.
It's still there. That's interesting.
I'm going to have to go see thisafter the shoot.
I do have a a new segment that Iwould like to do.

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I have one more question. So you cannot do the segment
yet. All right.
You mentioned a certain player'sname.
That was always the answer. Yeah.
JSN or Wix, 80 catches, 13113 yards, 7 touchdowns.
JJ, does JSN break Calvin Johnson's receiving record?

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Yes, yes. OK does he do it in the 16 game
window versus the 17 'cause I think he'll do it in 16.
I think he'll do it in 16. And and the the thing that we
are all gonna be beholden to here is health.

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You may not recall this because you're not an Ohio State fan and
you were not probably as pluggedin on this question before JS NS
final year in college. But there was a lot of talk
about him being a 2000 yard receiver his final year in

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college. I mean, it was after the, of
course, his season game. Yeah, his season got derailed 3
games in. That was tough and that was it.
And then, you know, he tried to come back, tried to come back,
tried to come back again. And, you know, this is for a
grand total of like 27 snaps across three games and then had
to shut it down until the NFL draft with a hamstring injury.

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And it was like, it was one of these big things of like, we
were as a nation robbed of watching JS NS junior year in
college after the after the RoseBowl record.
But a lot of people thought thathe might have a 2000 yard
receiving season, that it was just really set up well for

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that, the way that offense was set up that year and, and the
role that he was going to play. And so now if he's going to be
doing this in the NFL, it's it'sit's like a it's like a
confirmation of like, we probably actually would have

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gotten that had he been able to stay healthy.
And he was. He was off to a good start, too,
playing with Stroud. Yeah.
Yeah. I have no doubt you are you
going to continue to hold me hostage here or can I do my new
segment? Well, I was just going to say
you. So you think it I was just going
to go over they they played Minnesota this week, right?

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Minnesota, Atlanta, Indy, the Rams, and the Panthers are the
next 5 that those would be. That would be in 16 games.
Game 17 is against San Francisco.
Feels like the Panthers and Falcons games are going to be
where he can really really put up some massive numbers.

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Potentially the indie game as well.
We'll see, but the only my only concern JJ is the Vikings and
Falcons games get so far out of hand so early that he doesn't
get to do anything. It won't happen because the

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Seahawks really can't run the ball.
This is true. Darnold and JSN only have one
gear. They can't gear it down, which
is sick, by the way. So I love that.
I'm not. I'm really not concerned.
I love that. Honestly, health is the only
question that I have. Yeah, it's a nice ring tone.

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Thank you. Nice retail.
It makes me want to want to put on our music.
Here's here's the thing, right? The Minnesota game, obviously,
it sounds like McCarthy's not playing in it, basically.
Yeah, he's getting, what do theycall it now?
Soft benching, concussion benching.
Dude. One question is if Max

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Brosberg's going to play, do they get 3 defensive touchdowns
like Notre Dame did this past week without touching the ball
on offense? Then what are we doing right?
Does he get to like 1/21/30 right?
Does he only catch like 3 for 78and have a 55 yard touchdown?

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That's my problem. And it feels like you're the
same thing that happened againstKirk Cousins.
That's the biggest concern. It's not that they're going to
slow the gear down. It's that like Seattle's going
to get their touchdowns because the quarterbacks they're playing
against are bad, not to adventure their play against
Bryce Young. It's interesting.
All of the almost all of the good quarterbacks are in the AFC

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and almost all the good teams are in the NFC.
Like you look at the if you lookat top ten anything, it's almost
always this year skewed so heavily toward the NFC.
It's insane. Like if if you look at the top
10 wide receivers by total yards, yeah, it's eight and two

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in the top ten, NFC versus AFC. The AFC has all these great
quarterbacks. And then like you, you look at
all the teams in the NFC that are really good and most of them
like the biggest question you have about them is their
quarterback. But then, yeah, is anybody
actually good in the AFC? It's like, OK, the Colts,

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Broncos, Patriots and Chiefs andChargers.
Name another team that's remotely in contention in the
AFC. Who'd you say?
Colts, Patriots, Colts, Broncos,Patriots, Chiefs, Chargers.
Chargers. Yeah, I intentionally left the
Bills out. I left the Jags out.

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Ravens are like maybe a questionmark of like they've been they
have been offending, but if theyfigure out offensively that's I
think it's going to be OK. But yeah, I mean, I have
questions about the Chargers. I don't even know if they can
protect her. That's a problem.
Well, and you and I were talkingabout that earlier this year of
like, really like the Chargers have going except for all the

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injuries to online and like, or would they be able to overcome
it? And the answer has been yes, in
the run game, No, in the pass game, once they lost, once they
lost alt, it was kind of like, OK, and then and then they kept
losing their like backups at right tackle as well.
And it's like, OK, we got a trade for penning.
That to me is a, that's kind of a an indication of like, yeah,

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we're in we're in serious trouble.
And the fact that Jacksonville kicked the snot out of them, I I
just don't like when they're gonna go up against Denver and
the Chiefs again, Right. And they play Philly on Monday
night in December. Like they could be, they could
fall out quickly. So yeah, it's, it's it 100%

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true. PFF, 5 of their top six teams
overall are NFC teams. So yeah, it's not shocking that
that we're kind of staring down the barrel of like, yeah, the
teams are just built better in the NFC right now.
So, yeah, all right. I want to do a new segment.
Do you mind if we do a new segment presented by Redacted

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Energy? This is called stock watch.
So you are either buying or selling stock on awesome on
things Packers it it should really be players.
But if there's something else that you want, you can make a
case for why it should be, why we should have an IPO, right?

(26:39):
But I will, I will let you go first, somebody that you, a
Packers player following this Vikings game that you want to
either buy or sell stock on. Buy or sell stock on from this
game. Yeah, Yeah.

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I'm going to throw a look some sense at Warren Brinson.
I think we'll buy a little stockand Warren Brinson Warren
Brinson a 64 PFF grade, struggled in run defense, but
was just an absolute beast in the pass rush game, had five
total pressures and a sack, including including this picture

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right here. And and he tweeted this picture
and said NFL, please don't find us his tweets.
Is it good? He he obviously also tweeted
last week. You know what was that the Yeah,
good day playing on concrete or whatever.

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I love Warren Brinson. I didn't realize he was funny.
Yeah, I did not realize he was funny, but he is.
I I love this. So yeah, I'm I'm buying stock in
the personality of Warren Brinson and the player.
OK Yeah, for sure. Players a lot more important
we've had for sure it's give youa handful of dudes who had
personalities suited for media, shall we say, and and playing

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abilities also suited for media.So sure I want to buy some stock
on Kamal Haddon. I thought minus a couple really
rough missed tackles, he didn't look lost out there.
He didn't look like a UDFA rookie.

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Did you see the play where he punched Justin Jefferson?
Yes. So context for anybody who'd
missed this and friend of the show Dara Carriger tweeted 2
clips. Well it really is just one clip.
Who's back-to-back plays? So the first play to run play,
Justin Jefferson is holding Kamal Haddon and Kamal is mad

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mad as heck. There's no flags, yes.
Doesn't go over and cry to the ref about it.
Instead, he just lines up for the next play and takes a swing
at Justin Jefferson's face, knocks him backwards and then
just blocks his butt into the dirt.
It was funny. It was funny.
I appreciate the feistiness. You know what?

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I appreciate it. And I've been really tired of
watching Keyshawn Nixon play. And I noticed that the past game
for the Vikings got noticeably worse once Keyshawn Nixon was no
longer on the field to be pickedon.
Kamal Haddon, at least for 1/2 agame, was an upgrade over

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Keyshawn. So give me some stock up on
Kamal Haddon. With Keyshawn and Nate Hobbs
potentially not available for this Lions game, we're going to
need Kamal and Carrington to be at their best.
Don't need anybody else at cornerback to be at their best
since we apparently just don't ever play three corners, which

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is, you know, whatever. I mean, I personally, I feel
that there are situations where you want to have the ability to
go to a dime package or, or havea have a nickel look with a with
a cornerback, But I, you know, we're just going to do a three
safety nickel look all year. So that's that's what that is

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nothing wrong. And you know what Ravens do it
yeah, I mean, I mean, shoot, it's not like we're going to
play any teams out there who have multiple good receivers at
the same time as each other. So so we'll be fine back to you.
I or sell stock on somebody. Yeah, let's let's buy a little

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bit here. It's it's a little bit of a buy
high scenario. Don't really like buying high.
It's not always the best. I feel like if we had asked this
though, coming out of the game Iwent to, you know, in
Pittsburgh, I would have actually bought some as well,
probably. Oh, I know exactly if we had the
segment. Yeah.
What a what a game. Is he a linebacker?

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It No, actually he's not a linebacker.
He forced like 3 missed tackles in that game and was obviously
carrying the load on Sunday. I still want an explosive player
in this room. It would be nice to have an
explosive player like a divan a Chan for sure right.
That was cool that they were calling in on that.

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But Emmanuel Wilson yeah looked really good and and it really
did. He is reliable catching the
football. We've made jokes either a week
or two ago about him playing tight end because he was like,
he catches the ball really well and he forces some missed
tackles in space and, like, better tight end than Luke
Musgrave. Yeah.
And so like, he made a couple big plays when when Green Bay

(31:53):
was kind of looking to extend their lead in Pittsburgh, you
know, forcing some missed tackles against the linebackers
and just him chugging along it, it felt like, felt like the
train from Snowpiercer where it's like, it's just get, you
know, the snow is not really a problem for me.
I'm just going to keep, you know, pushing downhill.
And it felt like that all game. And yeah, just a really great

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performance that I think now youfeel like if you were maybe a
little on the fence of like, OK,when Jacobs comes out, how do we
how do we feel? And yes, Minnesota is probably
the team where, you know, it's easier for it's easier to get
ahead of schedule against them running.
So you don't face that nasty, you know, those nasty Blitch
packages. And you know, for as having
different coverages and different sides of the field

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where he can do, you know, he can go quarter, quarter, half,
he can play palms on one side, quarters on the other, like he
does all that nasty stuff. And in addition to blitzing.
So keeping them out, keeping that out of schedule is nice.
But to watch Wilson just kind ofpretty much have no problem
carrying the load was was reallygood to see.
And I'm I'm thrilled that Green Bay's got that, that kind of 1-2

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punch. And especially Wilson just does
a really nice job of taking The Dirty yards at times where it's
like, you know, just chug ahead,right, get what you can, right,
get a successful run on 1st down.
If it's four yards, that's totally fine, right?
But also some of those quick hitters where they they steal
the gap and he's got a lot of space.

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He gets downhill quickly. And you know, he turns some runs
in 1215 yards in a hurry, which is awesome.
So having a player like that, you know, as you move into, you
know, the cliche moving into December, moving into January,
where running the football is going to matter.
I mean, it still does, right? You know, being able to do both,
you know, creates this whole, you know, the defense is kind

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of, you know, on the on the defensive a little bit more in
terms of how they want to to play you.
So and it helps and obviously the under center play action
game. But having two guys who can who
can do that and force missed tackles and catch the football
reliably and make things happen in space when they catch the
football. That is awesome.
So I will buy some stock there on Emmanuel Wilson.

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Yeah, I thought he had a really nice game.
I was remarking during the game that like Chris Brooks and
Emmanuel Wilson together are like one really complete
package. Emmanuel Little suspect in pass
pro Chris Brooks absolutely God tear elite pass blocker at

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running back. I think both of them lack a
little bit in the receiving game.
I think of the running backs on the roster, Josh Jacobs is
clearly the best receiving back that we have.
But as a rusher, I still think Emmanuel Wilson is the best pure

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rushing back on the team. Just the the vision and the
decisiveness. Yeah.
Like Josh Jacobs still isn't, isn't quite there.
And, and, and maybe, and we've talked about this a bit, maybe
it's a little bit of Josh Jacobslike being too smart and knowing

(35:08):
too much And Emmanuel Wilson, like not really caring what he
doesn't know and just barreling forward and getting the yardage.
I did. Can can we talk about, about
the, the blocking? Cause 'cause it, it goes hand in
hand with what you're talking about.
And I and I guess I wanna, I wanna sell.
I already didn't have any stock like I had like I had like one

(35:32):
share or like 1/10 of a share. I want a short sell the last
little bit that I had of Aaron Banks.
OK, And I want to do a new segment presented by Redacted
Energy called Aaron Banks is theworst Packers offensive lineman
since dot dot dot I I I have a fun game that we could play, but

(35:59):
I, I want you to keep going if you have more on Banks so I can
get well, my, my, my, my question to you is, did you
notice a big difference in pass pro when, when most of the

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night, it wasn't like you would have like just one guy get beat
in pass pro. It was either like the whole
line held up just fine or all five guys got put on their butts
immediately. And I want to I want to bring in

(36:42):
bring you in as a more knowledgeable offensive line
guru than myself. OK, which may not be saying much
just to just to help out. I like when I'm, when I'm
watching run blocking, you know,pretty easy to dissect like,

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hey, we're, we're zone blocking on this.
We're, we're gap blocking on this.
Yeah. In Passpro I struggle a little
bit more with diagnosing what we're, what we're doing when it
is working versus when it's not working.
And I, I, I, I've noticed at times that, like, Aaron Banks

(37:28):
really struggles with stunts. It just gets his butt kicked.
It's like if the dude isn't lined up across from him, it's
like Aaron Banks doesn't know the guy could possibly exist.
Like, oh, there's nobody in front of me, therefore I'm going
to go help the center. It's like, well, linebacker's

(37:52):
coming in on a stunt and he's like, I don't think so, man.
That's not going to happen. No, I'm telling you he is he's
right. You still have time.
You I can see where your screws on your helmet are.
You should be able to see the guy coming.
You have time to get in position.
No, he's not coming. I'm I'm going to keep pushing.
I'm going to push Shawn Ryan's back some more instead of going

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to pick up the stunt. So help me out here.
Can can can we can we find some answers here?
OK, because I don't. So I I have a fun game.
All right, it's Adam Huddle saysgive me big booty belt in the
guard stock. It's called Drew wants to know

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is banks worse than Myers? I unequivocally PFF.
I have PFF grades up here. OK, so here we go.
Here we go. Better than Banks.
Yes or no? OK, PFF grades.
If you know the PFF grades, don't say better PFF grade than
Banks. Yes or no.
Yosh Neiman. Hacker.

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Yosh Neiman or Panther, Current season 2025.
Yosh Neiman. I can't imagine that he's worse
than Banks. You would be correct.
He is better. OK, OK.
Is this guy better than Banks onPFF?
Yes or no? John Runyon?

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Almost certainly. John Runyon is better than Banks
this season. Believe it or not, PFF does not
think so. OK, 52 for Runyon.
OK, we'll, we'll get to the other part of this, which I
think is more interesting. All right, but here we go.
Last one, if you guys have another Packers offensive

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lineman that's currently playingon a different team, please drop
him in the chat. OK, 'cause I'm, I was just going
quickly off this, this this was made.
I, I decided to do this about 2 1/2 minutes ago.
Higher PFF grade than Aaron Banks, yes or no?
Josh Myers. I'm going to say Myers is

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probably significantly better. He is actually lower, not by
much. But a little bit lower in what
overall PFF grade overall, Yeah,overall there's obviously the
run, the pass blocking, which wecould get into as well.
But I do think you, I, I kind ofthink it's a tricky game in

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that, in that regard because let's just, I'm just going to
put it out there. PFF grades, obviously for banks.
You have a 59.8 right now. OK, Josh Neiman's at a 67, so
it's not close, right? What's Josh Meyers at?
Like I'm going to guess he's like a 57.
Josh Meyers. That's really close.

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Where do you go? 56.8?
So yes, very close. What Lucas Patrick.
Lucas Patrick's got to be. Oh yeah, that same range.
That's a good point. John Runyon is a 52.6.
OK, let me, let me. Oh, wow.
Lucas Patrick is in New Orleans.Is that right?

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Is he still there? Lucas Patrick?
No, He's in Cincinnati now. He's Cincinnati.
That's right. But I don't think he's played
much this year. I think he's full.
We'll see if he's played a little because he played against
us. Lucas Pat.
OK, Lucas Patrick has played. All right, here we go.
Fun game. Fun game.

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Lucas Patrick, as he have a higher grade.
He has played in three games. He's actually only played 18
snaps, but he's played three games higher.
People have agreed in their banks.
Yesterday, though, I'm going to say I'm going to say no, I'm
going to say he's in a very similar range to who is the guy
we just talked about? Myers.

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Yeah, yeah, real similar. So I said Myers was like a 57 or
something. I think 56, eight was Myers.
Yes, you were very close. So I'm going to say that
Runyon's like in basically borderline the exact same spot.
So Patrick, yes, I I know you meant Patrick.
Patrick is in the exact same spot pretty much 56 six, right?
Runyon's at 52. So they've all been below

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average. Now, the funnier part about this
is pass pro. We're just look just at pass pro
of these five players. Where do you think Banks ranks
according to PFF overall? Well Pass Pro is definitely

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where he's been better. Crime.
So if you're saying that he thathis overall grade is like a you
said a 5859 point 859.8. OK, so I'm going to say what
Coleman landed by the way, is hestill is he still kicking

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around? Oh, that's a good question.
Let me let me get there. I will check Jackson.
I think he's in Jacksonville if I'm not mistaken.
OK, Cole Van Landon has played this year.
OK, I'm glad we brought this up too.
OK, Cole Van Landon, let's throwit out there.
Higher PFF grade than Aaron Banks, yes or no?

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Yes, indeed, in every facet he is at a 69.1.
I'm going to guess that now thatwe have 6 in the equation, where
do you think Banks ranks among the six in Pass Pro?
So he's going to be right in themiddle then, Because I bet that
Nyman and Lucas Patrick are bothahead of him and the other guys

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I mentioned are all behind. OK, so he is Colby and Landon
was like, wasn't he better? Wasn't he better in pass pro
than run blocking? Wasn't that kind of his his big
bugaboo was run blocking I believe.
So, so so, so Landon. Van Landon has to be ahead of
him in Pass Pro as well. OK Van Landon is ahead of him in

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Pass Pro. You nailed that. 71 banks in
Pass Pro is a 63.9. OK, That is actually second of
the six. Believe it or not, Josh Nyman
has a 46th grade in Pass Pro this year.

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Yash Neiman Runyon has a 57, Josh Byers has a 52, and Patrick
has a 62.4. So Patrick just behind Aaron
Banks in well, now I'm now I'm feel super glad that we're
paying $65 million or whatever it is, too, because it's so

(44:51):
similar. Yeah, to Aaron Banks.
Yeah, obviously, we're definitely getting our money's
worth. Yep.
Obviously the run blocking, I think then you can kind of have
a good indicator of where this is going in terms of his ranking
against the rest. But if you'd like to guess that,

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guess what, where he ranks, where he ranks in run blocking,
OK, this is going to be way easier.
I don't know if I want to guess that of the I'm still in a new
section, a new segment of the segment ranks, my friend.
He's got to be ahead of, he's got to be ahead of John Runyon,

(45:40):
right? Is he ahead of Runyon?
He is ahead of Runyon. Can't confirm.
So I'd I'd say he's ahead of three guys and it's Runyon Van
Lannon. Oh, who is the other guy?

(46:03):
We who's the other guy we keep? So we got Nyman Van Landon Banks
and then you have Runyon PatrickMyers.
Patrick Runyon Myers? Yeah, I'm going to say he's in
run blocking. He's ahead of Van Lanen, Myers
and Runyon. So you think he is third?

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I think he's third. OK, I'm double checking here
with my handy dandy. OK.
Yep. All right.
He is fourth of the sixth in runblocking grade.
It goes Josh Neiman 81, Van Lanen 67, Meyers 60.7, Banks 57,

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Patrick 55, Runyon 50. Wow, that that surprises me a
lot. I would not have guessed Nyman
67. I would not have guessed that
the distribution between the runand pass blocking was where it
was. I would have guessed probably
the opposite, but not that extreme.

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And yeah, that has been that is surprising to see that Nyman has
an 81 on the ground to help the run blocking and then 46 and
pass. Bro, I believe Billy Turner is
out of the NFL still believing that Jason Spriggs is a great
comment also. That's really good.
Hey, you've got to draft them athletes, which to be fair, you
do yes, you like drafting the the athletes for sure.

(47:36):
But sometimes you know, they moved up for him, didn't they?
Slightly for who? It's Briggs.
Did they move up for him? I don't remember.
But we just, we just did a deep dive into Packers draft history
like 2 episodes ago. So we can't do it again today.
I'm going to give you I'm going to give you a choice though, for

(47:58):
our our next segment. OK, Is there anybody we're
buying stock and selling stock? Anyone else?
Do we, do we feel, do we feel a little bit of buying Christian
Watson right now? Are we in the midst of a buy
here? Did you already buy it in
Pittsburgh? We already bought Christian
Watson and he hasn't done anything to make me sell.

(48:21):
I think I think like other than the route tree, I'm for sure
been pretty happy with him. He was pretty clutched for us in
that Vikings game, making the kinds of catches that we haven't
seen the Packers wide receivers making consistently recently.

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So I appreciated that there werea number of third down catches
for first downs, at least two that he had that I felt like,
you know, you kind of almost didn't have any business
catching that ball and I'm glad that you sustained the drive
because we were about to punt there.

(49:02):
Yeah. So I appreciated that.
I'm going to continue to sell stock on Brandon McManus.
I think that's fair. I'm going to I'm going to show
you something here. Well, I'm going to I'm going to
tell you something here, OK? So believe it or not, the
Packers have only lost three games so far this year.

(49:23):
I know it feels like they've lost 5, but they've only lost
three, No. Well, the Dallas 1 feels like
the fourth loss, right? Because it was a tie to me.
A tie is a loss. It, it it always feels like a
loss. I don't, I I would never be
excited about a tie. It definitely felt like it,
which I would. We've lost.
We've lost three games. We've lost three games.

(49:47):
Yeah. How many points did we lose?
What was the what was the most number of points?
We lost a game by this year. Clock's ticking 3.
Right. All three, which?

(50:08):
There you go. Yeah.
All three we've lost. We've lost all three by exactly
31310107. And oh, what did Carolina get
to? What did we get to 1613?
I think had to be that it wasn'tlike anything weird and it
wasn't the same as Cleveland. OK, yeah, which so.

(50:32):
So the games we lost Cleveland, McManus was one of two blocked.
He's been blocked. Carolina, we lost by three.
He was two of three. Philly, we lost by three.
He was 0 of 1. So first of all, fire this dude

(50:54):
into the sun. Yeah, he was.
He also also, he missed kicks inthe Pittsburgh game too.
And they were down 16, seven anda half and it felt like, Oh my
gosh, we can't kick anymore. We're not, we're not doing the
yeah, he went, he went two of four in the Pittsburgh game.
So the only, there's only been two games that we have won where

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he missed field goals. And that was he was two of three
in the Washington game and two of four in the Pittsburgh game.
I was going to guess the other one.
He is also playing with so much fire every single kick.
Extra points, field goals. He's taking so frickin long to

(51:38):
go kick the ball that there's a dude with like fingertips on the
ball on every single kick. I'm calling it the Lions will
block a kick of his and it's hisfault.
The the the Cleveland kick that got blocked was his fault.
Yes, it was also Musgrave's fault.
There's a there's a worse, there's a worse team that could

(52:01):
block his kick that I feel like might also do it.
I would prefer Chicago not to, but I have a very sinking
feeling that they also might block one, which would suck.
Can we, can I sell stock on the on the schedule makers for
giving us 5 division games in seven weeks to end the freaking

(52:23):
season? Yeah, I heard some, but was it
OK? Can we?
Oh, John Meardink, General John Meardink said that he he thinks
that it should be like a a rule when you're making the NFL
schedule that you have to play each one of your three division
rivals once in the first six games of the season and then and

(52:48):
then the the the other three have to occur within the final
eight games of the season. I think that's exactly right.
This has been madness, what we're watching.
And it's not even just the North, too.
The Indy has not played Houston or Jacksonville yet.
It's wild. They haven't played either of

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them. That is impossible.
What are we doing? And also the other table twice
in a season. You want it to you want it to be
like reflective of how your teams have evolved over the
course of the season. You learn nothing.
It's demonstrative of nothing when you play the same team
twice in three weeks. Like, it feels so cool that we

(53:31):
got to see Dallas, Philly Part 2in Week 12 after a Week 1
opener. That is sick.
That's what that's what I want, OK.
And yes, we got Ram Seahawks, what, 2 weeks ago and we're
going to get it, you know, week 16 or 17 or whatever it is.
That's I can live with that. The other problem is the two
games in three weeks thing is sodumb.

(53:53):
It's unbelievably stupid. New York and Philly played two
games in three weeks. Chicago and Green Bay are doing
it. What are we doing?
And this is that in a row they've made made us do this.
Knock this off for sure. Like we can't be doing this.
This is it's awful. Luckily the Colts aren't doing
it with they, they didn't give the Colts that with Houston and

(54:16):
Jacksonville, they're not doing that, but they are playing
back-to-back in two separate occasions.
It's just, it's it's crazy what we're doing divisionally with
with some of these. It's just it, it's outrageous.
It is. It is outrageous.
Yeah. I can't, I can't stand it.
I'm trying to find other ones that are that are, I mean, like,
obviously, yeah, Chicago right in Green Bay.

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Both have essentially that trying to think who else does if
there are, but there's there's probably another one out there
somewhere, which just makes it silly.
The Chiefs have three and four weeks to end the season, which
is weird in itself. Like it's just it's all over the

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place and I don't and I'm not here for it.
Like there, there are plenty of like, I don't know ways to do
this. Like the Rams and Cardinals
haven't played. They're playing Week 14 and 18.
Like, I get it, that's a little more spread out.
But like, also why? Yeah, I I just at the very least
split it down the middle. You're playing everybody before

(55:20):
the midway part in the season, playing everybody after the
midpoint of the season. This is it's very simple.
We can we can do that. It's OK.
Well, the other thing too is that the Bears have a balanced
schedule because now it's very fair to question the Bears right
now because of who they've played to this point.
And and now you're going to get just like this.

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And, and you know, it's cool as Packer fans if they just
completely implode, right? Like that's really cool.
But also like I, I understand iflike Bears fans are like, OK,
why aren't we spacing out like games against teams above 500?
Like, what, what are we doing here?
Like we, you had a feeling if the Bears were in contention
that the Packers and Lions were both going to be above 500 this

(56:02):
year and you've got three games left against them, two against
the same team. And it's just like simply, what
are we doing? We're playing Philly, then we're
playing Green Bay, then we got Green Bay again in two weeks and
then we got the Lions again. Like what's happening here?
I don't understand this. And yes, obviously things can
change, right? Indy becoming, you know, an 8
and three team was not on many people's bingo card.

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I don't even think even the biggest Patriot believers coming
into the season, I think there would be 10 and 2.
So yes, I get some of it is like, oh, well, some of it's
back loaded on accident. But you can kind of tell also
when you're putting this together, like even Green Bay,
the rest of the way, it's nuts. It's Detroit.
It's Detroit, Chicago, the the Broncos, Chicago, the Ravens,

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and then Minnesota. It's like in, in everyone's like
best case scenario the the schedule makers are going well.
Maybe even the Vikings might be above 500.
We're going to get we're just this is going to be insane.
Like going into the going into season, you were, I was
circling, I'm like, Oh my gosh, Green Bay, Baltimore is going to
be sick. Baltimore six and five.
I get it. But they're healthy now.

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They're they're ramping up towards the postseason and it's
just like, OK, we can do a way better job of spacing out some
of these games where we are trying to project what's going
to happen during the season. It just feels like we've we've
gone so far off course. It's nuts.
And it it, it's super annoying. We all agree that there are some

(57:31):
fun aspects to the way this is going to shake out that I do
want to take a minute to appreciate.
So this Thanksgiving Day game between the Lions and the
Packers has enormous ramifications for the NFC North
title. If the Packers win this game,
they have a 74% chance of winning the division.

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If they lose it, they have a 31 percent chance of winning the
division. The Lions are not because
because they have a division loss already, they are not
sitting as pretty. They have a 55% chance of
winning the division if they winthis game.
And if they lose this game, their odds of winning the
division drop down to 11%. Now, you may be asking yourself,

(58:17):
hey Self, I know that the Vikings are not any good and
they don't have a quarterback and so obviously who cares about
them, But the Bears have a good record right now.
So where do they sit? Right now?
They have roughly only about a 30% chance of winning the
division. And if they lose even one game,

(58:44):
it drops to a 10% chance of winning the division.
And that would be if they lose to any non division rival.
That happens. So they have two games coming up
against the Packers. And I just can't bring myself, I
can't bring myself to believe that just about anything about

(59:13):
those games, particularly the first game, is going to have
anything to do with the Bears. Like even with Jaquan Brisker
coming back to me that is 100% going to be about what version
of the Packers do you get? Are the are the Packers going to
be playing average ball or better or are they going to crap

(59:37):
the bed? We've seen him crap the bed
against a couple teams this year.
You know, if you get the versionthat showed up against the
Panthers, then sure they'll struggle with the Bears.
I do not believe that the Bears are good.
They have eight wins right now. I think they are really gonna

(59:57):
struggle to get to 10 wins from here and out.
They have six games left in the regular season.
Tell me where their two wins arecoming because so far it's it's
very tricky schedule has just been cupcakes like the the
combined winning percentage likeby far the best team they have
beaten is. Pittsburgh and that was an Aaron

(01:00:18):
Rodgers list Pittsburgh that wasfreaking Mason Rudolph, one of
the worst Corbin backs in the NFL.
So their their combined winning percentage, the combined winning
percentage of the teams that they have played and beaten is
like 20%. It's it is this is the worst
schedule. So these last six games they

(01:00:38):
play, I'm going to read the the teams to you.
You tell me where two more wins are going to come from to get
them from 8 to double digits. Eagles, Packers, Browns,
Packers, 49ers, Lions. I actually think the most
winnable game for them there is not playing the Browns at home

(01:01:04):
at Ford Field, at Soldier Field.Yeah, I think it's playing the
Lions in the last game of the season.
I think. I think San Francisco to me is
the one that it feels like couldbe the weird game where they

(01:01:25):
come out on top. But yeah, I mean, when you think
about this Bears team and this is that game is Santa Clara, by
the way. It is this is what I find really
interesting. OK?
I, I just, I want to go to the, I want to talk about the four
teams that are 8 and three rightnow, OK?
OK. Because Chicago's obviously one
of them, right? Four teams are 8 and three, OK,

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Chicago, Philly, Seattle and Indy.
OK, Let's talk about some point differentials, Seattle and Indy.
Let's talk about the point differentials for these four
teams, OK? Seattle, Indy, Philly, Chicago.
Seattle's point differentials is8 and three team plus one O 7-8
and three OK Indianapolis eight and three.

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They are a + 112 point differential.
OK Philadelphia Eagles, they're eight and three, a modest plus
30 in point differential. OK, not great tells you there's
they've went been winning defensive, you know, kind of
rock fights for the most part. Obviously they've you know,

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they've won a lot of close gamestoo.
They the Rams game was extremelyclose.
Tampa Bay right there. They're gunning wins out right.
The Green Bay, obviously Detroit, they didn't give a lot
of points and then they obviously they lose the same to
Dallas this past week by three. Chicago Bears are 8 and three.
Their point differential is -3 guys, they're -3 they were in

(01:02:50):
the red with point differential leading the division.
This is what happening the division with a -3 point
differential. What happens when you play a
bunch of cupcakes and then get absolutely shellacked by the
only good teams you play and nowyou're going to play the six,
basically the six best teams you're going to face all year.
The the seven and four Bills areplus 59 at 7:00 and 4:00.

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OK, Baltimore and Pittsburgh, JJthey are they're I don't think
the five are good either. You're right exactly.
They've they've, they've, it's in their wins.
They're taking care of business.Baltimore and Pittsburgh, right?
Six and five, basically sitting on the tier of mediocrity,
right? They're both 6:00 and 5:00 and
they have positive point differential plus 14 and plus
11. Like it's, it's, it's silly to

(01:03:43):
obviously whittle it down to just this point differential,
but it's like, it is kind of wild when you look at it of like
the six and five Houston Texans are plus 61.
They're plus 61 as as much as they have struggled this year
beating quality teams and when they beat like above average,
you know, depending on how you feel about like somebody like

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Buffalo, they're winning close, right.
And that, but they are taking care of the bad teams.
It is. It is insane to me to try to
find the closest team to Chicagoin point differential.
It's essentially, yeah, it's Dallas.
Yeah, +6. And they're 55 and 1.

(01:04:25):
They're, they're directly 500. They are 500.
And the Bears have obviously been winning these tight games,
right? They, they beat the Raiders by
one because they blocked the field goal.
The Raiders, they beat the Raiders by one.
They beat the Raiders by one. They beat the Commanders by one
because nobody can hang on to the ball in an important
situation at midfield, right? They beat the Bengals because

(01:04:48):
the Bengals can't tackle anybody.
They do not play defense. OK, maybe the giants, Giants
have blown 510 point leads this year in the fourth quarter.
And Brian Dabel said, you know what?
We're going to play Russ insteadof Jameis coming in cold against
Chicago. Just not just just absolute
brain dead decision, right? And then they obviously beat the

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JJ McCarthy Vikings 19 to 17. And the the funny part was this.
They pretty much dominated that game.
Both quarterbacks played horrible, but McCarthy was much
worse. And you're up 16, three in the
4th and you almost blew it. You almost it took it took a
last second field goal again andyou beat the the Rogers list
Steelers by three. The last two Mason Rudolph

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drives were atrocious and you beat the team by three points.
It could stop the Raiders. It's crazy.
Raiders don't lose to Chicago. How many of their coordinators
are fired right now if they don't lose to Chicago?
I I think they probably still are.
That's the crazy part. Like they've still been that bad

(01:05:52):
and like it, it, it is really hilarious.
I mean, they, they lost at Baltimore.
Tyler Huntley. All right, We're we're just
giving, we're just they lost by 14 to the Ravens.
That's pro Bowler Tyler Hunting.They lost by 14 to the Ravens
without Lamar. Snoop Huntley is unbelievable.
Pretty much. Obviously they they are in the

(01:06:13):
red because they lost their lives by 31, which is tough.
You hate you. You hate to see that, but you
actually like to see that. Yes, they do, Drew.
Yes. Yes, they do.
It is it. It is insane.
I think it's really interesting when you talk to Packers fans

(01:06:34):
and Lions fans, they don't have one positive thing to say about
their teams right now. Not one.
Yeah, it's true. And like, you talk to Vikings
fans, they don't even want to talk about their team.
They're so depressed. Yeah.
And then you talk to the Bears fans and they are like, which
they are. They they are so convinced that

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they are elite and they are bragging so much right now.
And it's so interesting because I think neutral observers
outside of the division look at the NFC North and think, yeah,
the Lions are legit. I don't really want to play
them. Packers are legit.

(01:07:15):
I don't really want to play themand the the disparity between
the way that those two fan basesview their teams right now
because those two teams have been underperforming for the
middle part of the season here. Yeah.
Detroit, like not being in the playoffs as, as, as of this very

(01:07:36):
moment is. Yeah.
Probably a shocking development,right?
Like, there's eight teams in theNFC who have very good records
right now. Yeah, and obviously only seven
of them can get in the playoffs.Yes.
And of one of those eight teams very clearly is an imposter.

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Again, I don't think the ChicagoBears are going to string
together two more wins through for the rest of the season.
I think they're going to finish with eight or nine wins.
I feel like they're I I would probably bet they get to 10.
It's just been that weird kind of year.
They're probably going to eke out some win again close that

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they don't deserve. I will say this is really nice.
I think you haven't done that against any good teams.
I know, but they're probably still going to do it.
They it might be them getting lucky.
Maybe it's Cleveland Roger's health, but like that happens
when your quarterback is is closer to 50 than he is to to
30. Maybe it's Cleveland.
No, but I I do it. It is funny.
I2 more quick points 1 maybe it's Cleveland, but but

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Cleveland one more fantastic defense.
They do it's it's a very Chicagohas no weird.
It's a weird game where it's going to be strength on strength
and weakness on weakness, which I think is going to be really
interesting to watch. I think that favors the Browns.
It should yeah, it it definitelyshould.
I do think the Bears have struggled defensively enough

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where you have Judkins, you havefannin, right.
Like there there are some some guys on that team who can who
can help you move the ball. One more, one more point of the
point differential because this one, this one's hilarious,
honestly. So chiefs are six and five.
Their point differential is is plus 76.
Believe it or not, that is insane.
I I couldn't even believe that. I I triple checked, I triple

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checked it. I did a triple take JJ and I'm
like, that can't be right. No, it is it is.
They have lot they have. They are one in five in close
games this year, which again regresses, it evens out.
They were like 17 and O at in one stretch in a row in close
games. And that's what I think is
really interesting about the Chicago team.
Next year's Chicago teams in in my estimation is probably going

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to be a better team than this Chicago team is, but they may
have exhausted their close wins this year when they're mid,
which I find hysterical. I mean that would be the most
bearish that would it would it would it feels like this year
maybe they are 10 and seven and maybe they get in right.
It's the seven seed and it's very it's Oh my gosh, look what

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we did this year and they probably win two more close
games, right? That let's but let's break it up
to seven and one, huh, in close games.
And it would just be very funny if that's that's how it goes
next year where it's like, oh, they're just what's happening.
We're just we're a better team, but we can't get over the hump
in these close games. That will be well next year.

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Next year they'll be better. Next year they'll be better
because Kyle Manungai will be the lead back.
Well, that's true. What's his name?
DeAndre Swift won't be on the team.
I'm begging Ben Johnson to just please start.
And my fantasy team would be very, very appreciative as it
searches for its RV 2 right now in the midst of already
clinching a playoff spot. I need him to be the starter

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anyway. Yeah, but I, I do find that very
funny. If if I were to bet I I, I I'm
worried that it feels like that Green Bay will not will outplay
themselves in one of the Chicagomatch ups.
I'm really concerned about that where it just like why just

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didn't show up and they hand them one and they get the win
against San Francisco or Cleveland to get to 10.
That's that's where I think it'sprobably going to land.
Now. As far as the Lions go, JJ, the
uphill battle starts Thursday, right?
This is a heavyweight fight against Green Bay.
They have to play Dallas, who isnow starting to kind of creep

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into frisky, but above average. Probably not going to make the
playoffs this year, but boy, they are going to, I think, give
you some fits. And not to mention, Quinton
Williams has been playing out ofhis mind since he joined Dallas.
And we've seen what the Lions have struggled with.
They have struggled with interior pressure that just OSA

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and him I just feel like could wreck the game a week from
Thursday. Then they play at the Rams like
they could be behind an 8 ball in a hurry with three games to
go. Now they do have Pittsburgh,
Minnesota, Chicago to finish so they can right the ship.
But ten and seven is very possible for this Lions team and

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that ten and seven as we've seencould be on the outside looking
in. Could be it could be on the
outside looking in. I think there's went through the
ESB playoff machine. It was some tricky stuff.
I actually, I actually did some really fun stuff with the
playoff machine at ESPN where I had the 10 and seven Jags,

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Texans, Chiefs, Chargers and theChiefs and Chargers both missed.
And the cool thing is, is I flipped the Chiefs Cowboys game
to a Chiefs win. And not only do the Chiefs get
in JJ, the Chargers get in somehow above Houston and
Jacksonville kicks them both out.
Both races are going to be fascinating.

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That's are going to be fascinating.
It's going to be a wild stretch as essentially we've kind of
mentioned, like I feel like the AFC probably has nine teams
vying for seven and the NFC has 8 vying for seven.
So maybe the schedule makers as we circle back to this know what
they're doing. It's dumb.

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Don't like all the division games in in a tightly packed
sardine container, but they're going to get some entertaining
football down the stretch, especially.
I mean, AFC, SI mean goodness sakes.
And he's got to play four games against Houston and Jacksonville
that are going to mean a ton. So well, I think the Lions are

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very interesting to look at right now because the the 1st
thing when you look at who's actually playing right now is
you just look at you look at thelineup and you go who is this
team right now? They're missing so many guys
who've kind of newly gone out. So like Kirby, Joseph is not

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playing in this game. Yes, this is true.
Expect that he's going to be replaced by Thomas Harper,
who's, you know, small sample size.
He's he's got, you know, decent PFF grades for what that's
worth. But yeah, I've I've never heard
of Thomas Harper. I don't remember him in the

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draft even. Like you, you look at the you
look at how this team has been playing and it's been absolutely
carried by its superstars so farthis year.
Jack Campbell and and Aidan Hutchinson and Kirby Joseph have
been the entire defense just dragging everybody else to

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competency. No other good linebackers, Brian
Branch not playing as well as henormally does.
Their corners are terrible. Reid has been been the only guy
who's been playing halfway competent cornerback for them at
all. Terry and I don't know,
continues to just be the worst of the worst and like along that

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along that defensive line. I mean, it is absolute bullet
dodge for Green Bay right now. Oh, it's a terrible one.
Just an absolute bullet dodge, which I think most of us
probably wanted Kuignon over Terry on right, But plenty of
interest in in getting Terry on the team that needed a corner.
That seems like a massive a massive bullet dodge right now

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that Detroit moved up in front of Green Bay, which moved up in
front of him to take him. They also took rake Straw, who
really just hasn't played. I hated, hated rake straw as a
prospect and it's been not it's been wild.
So you know who Rake Straw always reminded me of was the
cornerback version of Amari Rogers.

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Like undersized and no production and but like, people
just loved his attitude and, andthought, hey, he's pretty
athletic and therefore he's probably gonna be good.

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Yeah. And I hate it.
This wasn't big either. That's super short arms.
Super short dude. Like, like small, like a short
dude, like 1A short dude with abnormally short arms for his
short body. Let me.
See, I'm gonna pull. I'm.
Gonna So he's been bad, Tarion has been bad.
And like Lions fans, Racedraw really just hasn't played.

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He's like barely played. Because that tells you all he
needs to know. It's he's been, he's, he has 22A
season ending injuries. But every time he's been out
there he's been horrific. Just the worst of the worst.
Like has he played regular season games?
I think he played like 2 regularseason games from last year.
That's not a lot. We were talking a lot leading up

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to the first Lions game this year, played 46 snaps, a meek
Robertson coming in to be their nickel corner, and he's been
bad. We were talking about how he had
been kind of trending in a positive direction and like, was
this going to be his breakout year?

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No, it hasn't been. He's been awful when he has been
out there offensively. It's kind of the same story.
Jamo has not been good. Khalif Raymond has not been
good. Samuel Porter is out.
Raymond. Raymond has been costing them
withdraw. The old their their entire pass
game right now is the running backs and Aman Rao, and it's the

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same story on the offensive line.
They're all bad except for PenneSewell.
Now we talked a bit about you and I talked a bit about Tate
Ratledge and how he's been playing and I pass pro has been.
Rough. Pass pro has been rough for him.
I I think in the run game he haslooked, he has not looked like a

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rookie. So like I, I can say that for
him very, very Yosh Neiman splits right now.
So we were talking earlier aboutwhat he what has been going on.
It's very much a Yosh Diamond type of split, which should be
beneficial until you play a teamlike Philly who has the

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linebackers to fill all these the gaps that are necessary when
they do kind of that seven man distribution right with their
front 7. And then they have guys like
Carter and Ojimo who can get after the quarterback of the
interior. That's when, yeah, it has it has
started to fall apart a little bit for for Rattlage.

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And there is a lot of talk, it was even talk JJ coming into the
season about will the Lions potentially be moving on from
Taylor Decker in the 2026 offseason.
Yeah. And like, I mean, he's he's kind
of hitting that Cliff. He's not, he's not playing
horrible football, but the drop off even from last year is just

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stark. You would like to see, you know?
Yeah, up to his standards. And it has not been.
Look, he hit 31 and fell off. It happens every time.
Like, unless you're Trent Williams.
Yeah, this is what happens. You hit 31, poof, you're done.
Yeah, pretty much. So.
I mean, here's here's his. Here's his PMF grades since, oh,

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2018 was his breakout year. All right. 70.675 nine.
8275574481 177 two this year 67 three.
Yeah. It's a 20 point drop off in the
last two years. It's time to hang it up man.
Like like get out while the getting is good.
The Chargers will take him off your hands.

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It's gonna happen. He's going to go to LA, he's
going to get, he's going to playthree games.
He's going to play three games. He's going to tweak something
and not really feel right the rest of the year.
So they're going to lose. They're going to lose 1 of their
two to start the year again. He's going to have to play.
Just wait until they go draft Charles Jagusaw and then they're

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drafting for him. They're drafting Yewane.
Did you see Brian Maffey is out on on Yewane as a Packer
offensive lineman? Yeah.
It doesn't shock me. Is it true guard who's good?
Disgusting. Can't.
Yeah. True guard that's good.
A true guard that's good. I can't believe Green Bay's out.
That's crazy. So we're we're going to be

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seeing, we're going to be seeingBrock Wright stepping in for Sam
Laporta. Yeah, I know it hurts them.
LaPorte is. Dan Campbell said that LaPorte
is not coming back this year in all likelihood, which sucks.
He has surgery. That's not great in a sport like
this, that is not good. Hopefully he is OK and can

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continue to play, but you never know.
Yeah. And then obviously, of course,
the guy who had 55 PPR fantasy points on Sunday, Yeah, he's a
nightmare. He has a nightmare out there.

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You don't want to be seeing him.But they've strung him out to
the edge. They strung him out to the edge
in Week 1. And you know, guys like Evan
Williams have been sticking their nose into the run game
and, and in doing so at a high level.
And that's the type of stuff that you want to continue to see

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in this game. The real question is, is a
player like Rutledge, how much better has he gotten from Week 1
to now that could maybe see an increased success rate in runs
that may feature a little bit more of David Montgomery?
I'm very nervous about the Packers run defense right now.

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As you should be for sure. They've been bad for a while.
And this Vikings game was like particularly atrocious.
Like they were very bad against Carolina, like horrific against
Carolina. And I felt like that exact same
run defense showed up for the Minnesota game.

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And then like the difference between those two games is that
Bryce Young is a better quarterback than JJ McCarthy.
That's the difference. And like it it almost, I'm a big
time Bryce Young hater, but he was playing much better.
He was carving us up and then JJcouldn't carve us up because he

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couldn't hit any of his receivers.
In fact, he couldn't get his cadence right.
He couldn't get his offensive line to snap the ball.
He's standing back there clapping like an idiot.
I'm sorry, man. This is the NFL.
What are you clapping for? You didn't even play last year.

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You were a rookie last year holding a clipboard with an
injury. You should have been learning
things like cadence. He can't execute the bare
minimum basic fundamentals of how do you be an NFL
quarterback? He's that bad.

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So I'm very nervous for the Packers run defense in this
game. Devante Wyatt has been
struggling hardcore for a few weeks now, and I get it.
He's hurt. He's battling through something.
Totally get it. I'm not mad at him.
Other guys need to step up and whether that's Warren Brinson,

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Carl Brooks has been bad. Lucas Van Ness is not healthy
enough to be out there. He played six snaps this past
week and was it half liter? Lafleur, He goes to Lafleur.
Lafleur said that it's solely just a function of like where
he's at health wise that it was not like it was not.
I'm not playing this week production slash performance.

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It was like he can't be out there cuz he's not healthy.
Yeah, he's not. He did say that he didn't suffer
a set back. So like, I I would, I would
probably be fine with them exercising caution here.
Mini buy off of this Thursday game.

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Let's get healthy for Chicago and move and going forward.
Like that feels like where wherethey should be at with Van Ness,
which stinks because you'd love to have them in this Detroit
game of all the games, right? But yeah, it just that kind of
feels like where we're at right now, which stinks.
It sounds like Brooks maybe not playing.
Looked like he got ADNP designation today.

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I didn't see that. Yeah.
So I have the injury report here.
Actually probably maybe just going to see a decent bit more
of Stackhouse in this one. I don't know, probably some more
Brinson for sure. Right.
Like that's, I mean, you'll see more of that.
It's just it's yeah, I mean as it always does, as as, as I've

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mentioned plenty like the the early down success.
If Detroit continue, if if Detroit dominates there, one,
it's probably going to be a shorter game, fewer possessions.
And two, it's just never going to get, you know, you get into
those games where it's like, well, why isn't Parsons doing

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anything blah, blah, blah. It's like, well, because they're
they're not letting you know they're they're not getting into
the 3rd and mediums and longs where he just destroys people.
And big shout out to him for destroying Christian Darasat on
multiple occasions. And and probably one of the most
disruptive plays I've ever seen.Destroys the center, moves

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around the guard. Two guys are on the ground.
Like I, I, I saved the screenshot and I'm going to use
it at some point for a, you know, how it started, how it
ended type of thing. You know, that's going to be
really sick because that's just,it's, it is so cool.
Like Parsons is just like, look at all these guys I've freed up
because two of the five players that you're asking to protect

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your QV are on the turf. So if there's any defence of JJ
McCarthy on Sunday, it's the fact that I believe he was
pressured on nearly half of his drop backs.
I think it was 48%. Like if there's any defense,
it's like, well, what do you want me to do?
Nobody blocked for me. What do you want me to do?

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I can't even get my cadence for you.
How do you expect me to completea pass?
Do you expect me to handle theseguys rushing the passer?
How do you expect me to not handle, you know, Darasaw
getting beat multiple times? I can't complete passes on air
in shorts. How do you expect me to do it in
a game? Exactly.
So it's like McCarthy has been awful, but like also their their

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offensive line has been and and for all the problems that not
good at best bro Detroit offensive line has at the left 4
spots. Penne Sewell right now is
playing the best football of anyoffensive lineman in the league.
Put Gary over there. Let's put Gary over there.

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OK, 11's got to be moving around.
All right. That's a favor to Rashon Gary to
be like, hey, look, you know, I know I didn't, you know, get
back past any of my one on ones,but it was been a super man.
Yeah, perfect. Hey, shout out to Gary though,
the good day when he ripped J JSarm back and stripped the ball

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from him. That was that was a pretty cool
play. That was fun.
I got a tool for this, said JJ McCarthy.
Probably bowls a three, no A9 bowls a nine.
I have to call somebody out in the chat here, Chris, the
casual, and I don't appreciate this, all right?
His comment says. I feel some Ohio State

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Wolverines hate their JJ. Chris, I don't appreciate it.
Does do you? Know what week it is?
Half the reason I'm even doing this podcast episode tonight is
to distract myself. Yeah, even though we're talking
about it waking moment this week, I have to be either

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actively in a conversation with somebody, either listening to
them talk or me talking to them,or my brain switches to thinking
about the game. The game is just big brain mode.
We'll get there, We'll get there.
We're we'll get there. We gotta we gotta talk about it
right now because I'm just thinking about the game.
Well, I mean, it just and Chris is bringing it up in the middle

(01:29:21):
of the podcast. Could be like last year again,
lose the game, win the championship.
Honestly, like if you can find betting odds on that, you know,
throw 3 bucks on that. I'm probably going to yeah,
yeah, I it's very Chris. It's OK Josh Pate picked the

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team up north to win, which I appreciate because the last four
years he picked Ohio State to win.
There it is. So I appreciate him getting that
bad juju off of us. Love that.
If he had picked Ohio State, I Ithink I would have vomited.
I don't be here. I'd be doing this show solo if
Pate picked picked Ohio State because JJ like I listen, this

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happened. I can't be here.
I'm on the toilet. I'm the we're having trouble.
So. So Jeremiah Smith and Cardinal
Tate have been injured. And like, this has been the
predominant storyline for the last three weeks.
Are they going to help you for for the game?
And nobody's catching bow, though.

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JJ doesn't matter. Nobody catches Bow.
Yeah. I'm not there with him.
I need, I need that Gus Johnson.I need that Gus Johnson call.
Like, I need air to breathe. I need him to say that in the
game on Saturday. If he says that, that is, that
is going to be etched to the history.

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OK, 'cause then the third time, third time someone says it is
going to be when Bow's in the league, which I think will be
our our run game is not where itneeds to be.
And it's fair. But I did see one clip of him
against Rutgers where I was like, holy crap, Rutgers is the
single worst run defense in FBS this year.

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It's it's really not close. That's fine.
And then UCLA make one on ones they're like third or fourth
worst. Well, so it's been these last
three games, Purdue, UCLA, Rutgers have not been a good
like litmus test of the run gamenow, like making guys miss is
making guys miss, you know, breaking tackles is breaking

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tackles. So you that's like, that's the
one play I was talking about where I was like, holy crap,
that was that was awesome. But yes, I I do it is going to
be a different story for sure onSaturday.
So Jonathan says, I just hope the Mike linebacker does the AJ
Hawk thing on Monty, the AJ Hawkon David Montgomery, Michael.

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So you hope Quay does the a Jayhawk thing, the a Jayhawk
thing. I for for a second, I was really
confused and I thought since we're talking about Ohio State,
Michigan. Oh, you.
I thought, I can't believe you said that just now.

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For a second, I thought that he was referencing this.
Maybe. So that's Zach Boren from a
bunch of years ago. But this is I mean, this is like
the the greatest photo ever fromfrom that rivalry.
So I'm not sure we're talking. What's the a Jayhawk thing?

(01:32:39):
Yeah, I don't, I don't. Honestly, I don't know.
Oh, no, no, no. I'm embarrassed that I don't
know what the AJ Hawk thing is. You got to explain to us,
Jonathan. Yeah, definitely.
You hope Kuwait does the AJ Hawkthing on David Montgomery?
I'm nervous to Google that. I don't think I want to Google
it. I'm not sure.

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The injury report, by the way. Yes, Jake, there was a an injury
designation that popped up this week for one Packers player that
we don't see very often anymore now that Mercedes Lewis is not
on the team. And that was veteran rest.

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There was a player who is not giving veteran rest.
Someone's old enough for that. Definitely not The player in
question is 28 years old. So I think we can safely reach
in the lines and say this is it's not veteran rest.
It's you're fat and lazy rest. And he guesses who it was 2828

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year old who needed a veteran rest because he's out of shape.
It's got to be Gary. It's not Gary.
It's not it's somebody. I have no problem.
Is he not? Is he not 28?
Gary's got to be 27 or 28. He's got to be around there. 20
Who's 28? Who's 28 years old answer

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staring at you right in the face?
I'm not looking. Everybody watching the stream
knows I'm trying to get the answer.
I didn't look at the injury report.
OK. I was busy working on some stuff
today in between work to look atthe injury report.
It's it's the dude I have insulted the second most in this
episode after Jason McCarthy. Oh, Aaron Banks.

(01:34:36):
Yeah. Aaron Banks at 28 years old, got
veteran rest this week. What class was he?
Aren't you glad we're paying him$65 million?
He's 28. What class was he?
He's 28. Was he a 24 year old rookie?
He is. Was he a 20?

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He was in the 2021 class, 2021 class.
So he Yeah, he was a 24 year oldrookie.
What the heck sack of crap. Leonardo DiCaprio is not pleased
with this fact. I just, it's so frustrating to

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me to look at this dude's Oh, gosh, that's that's fun time
played in PFF grades, like leading up to this season and
then try and like squint and look sideways and figure out
what the heck Goody was looking at when he signed this bozo.
Yeah. I mean, I know what he's looking

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at. He's looking at the fact that
the guy's 6 foot 5 and play for the 49ers.
He called, he called Lynch and goes, hey, how's this guy?
And Liz goes, well, we're not bringing him back.
So he's good. I was born in 1997.
That sounds like somebody I wantto pay $65 million to.

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So let's talk about Packers defense versus Lions offense.
What's the key to winning this game?
OK, Gary is not 28 yet. So yeah, I think I said he's 27.
Didn't I say 27? He is 27 and 357 days so he will
be 28 by the Bear game December 3rd.

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So there you go fun track. How do we stop the how do we
stop the Lions run game if we can if we can good play from
Kuwait. Start throwing the ball to
Almond Raw and Gibbs, which is their entire offense is throwing

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into those two guys or running the ball.
Yeah, I mean, again, it's it's going to be it it's it's going
to have to involve living eitherA and base defense to make sure
you stop the run, which I believe they did week 1 a decent
bit J skate. Do I know you?
And then are you just dropping dropping the safety and dropping

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Evan Williams, rolling him into the box, right.
That's it. And better play from Quay,
right. You need you need Quay to be in
the right gap to help this defense out on early downs like
that has to happen. So it's just it it it's just
straight up just going to be better execution.
So that's that's the name of thegame.

(01:37:43):
Just stop this one. I'm so pleased with myself.
I saw this comment coming from Jscafe and I just JSCAPE and I
looked it says it's all lowercase.
It says get to golf dot dot dot Game 1.
And I said to myself, that is exactly how my buddy Justin
types everything. And it has to be Justin because

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he works at a skate place. So Jayscape, that's gotta be
him. There we go.
That's Justin. Called it.
There you go. Getting pressure on Goff
obviously is gonna be crucial. And I'm not that nervous about
our ass rush that's gonna happen.
I'm more nervous about forcing Detroit into passing situations

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if we can force them into passing situations.
Now, here's a question I have for you, Jake.
Yeah. Do you want Keyshawn Nixon
active for this game, or would you feel more comfortable having
him sidelined? Glad you asked that.
Just asking about this game. This game in particular.

(01:38:52):
I'm glad, So glad you asked thatwhat you got for us.
This is yards per cover snap. That is so tiny and blurry.
I know this is as good as we cando.
I've done the. I did the thing, I promise.
Can you can you DM me that this helps?

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Yeah, that helps. OK, that's a little better.
I know it's still a little better.
Yards per coverage snap allowed in man and zone.
So I haven't looked at where anyof the dots are, but probably
safe to assume that Keyshawn Nixon is in a corner.
Probably. I'm going to guess he's good in

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man and awful in zone. OK, now where is he?
I'm circling. So that is zone coverage.
Good in, good in both Sir on andman, good in both stats lie like
dogs. He's.
So there you go. Here's the thing.
He has games where he's very good now.

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And he has games where? Look at Carrington Valentine.
Look at look at my dude Carrington.
I know. So Carrington.
Awesome spot. All right, You want to have some
fun now? Oh, I see Eric Stokes up there.
Look at Stokes. Here's DJ Reed.
DJ Reed. And directly above him, Eric
Stokes is up here. Yep.
Derek Stingley. Here's our buddy Tyrion Arnold.

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Not many guys. Not many guys over here, by the
way, Not the guys in this quadrant.
This quadrant is a rough quadrant.
By the way, Newsome's in here. Tyree Stevenson's in here.
Deonte Banks has been rough in in in New York.
Is Nate Hobson here at all? I don't think he's qualified.
I think he's missed too many games now for the snap count to

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be high enough. Professor Cakes in the chat,
haven't seen. Is the Mick Robertson still a
lion? We talked about him like 15
minutes ago. Yeah, he's down here on this
episode. He's down here.
So not too far from kool-aid Mckinstry.
It'll be interesting to see, right?
Interesting how that that cornerback class aged like milk.

(01:41:06):
Like other than Quinjan and oh, who's the other guy who went to
the Oh, Cooper de Jean, other than Quignon and Cooper de Jean?
It's like the the Eagles got thethe only two decent quarterbacks
and everybody else. That was that was last year
right to high heavens. Lassiter movie.
The other. Yeah, we'd like to last year
Lassiter was Kitchens in that class or was he in the next

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class? Kitchens was in that Kitchens
was in this most recent class, wasn't he?
No, Kitchens is in year 2. Lassiter's right here, by the
way, near Nixon and Ramsey. Yeah, but yeah, when you look at
Mckinstry, Arnold, Max Melton isdown here.
San Ristel's down here as well. That's interesting.

(01:41:48):
San. Ristel's struggling, right?
It seems at least when you're inzone, the slot guys seem to be
giving up more. Like Witherspoon's over here,
you see him go to man coverage, but he's played a lot of slot.
Doesn't surprise me that the zone coverage, like Melton and
Sam are still played the slot. Yeah, 'cause when you're playing
zone, when you're in the slot inthe zone, who are you getting

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matched up against? 90% of the time it's the tight
end. Also the jeans over here huge
size mismatch. So Dejean's over here, Kenny
Moore's over here, another slot guy.
So it's not surprising that you see oh, Hobbs is here, here he
is found him. It's shocking that he's better

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bring cover highlight for bannedcoverage.
Not really. Would you remember that?
He's physical and he'll probablyjust like his best course of
action is disrupt the route immediately.
And that's how you win. That's how you win as long as
the refs don't throw a flag on you.
This is true. This is true.
But yeah, so that's, that's interesting.

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It seems like if Detroit is in zone coverage, which is
interesting because I feel like I've heard all week as well,
it's like, OK, which not all week, it's been 2 days, but it's
like Detroit in man coverage. If they get them in man
coverage, I feel like they're going to still have
opportunities to win. And yet here we are in zone
coverage with Robertson and Arnold being pretty atrocious in

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zone coverage in terms of the yards per cover snap at least,
whereas Reed's obviously been a lot better.
But that's one guy. And you don't have Kirby,
Joseph, Jake. I have to to opt the, the, the,
the, the possibility of this game on Thursday opening up the
same way the game opened up two years ago.

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It's got to be in the back of your mind a little bit of like,
oh, Watson's going to be involved early in this one.
Dobbs is probably going to be evolved early in this one.
I don't think we're going to seeReed, although Matt Lafleur has
been a little coy of like, yeah,we'll wait and see Thursday at
noon, blah, blah, blah. He's getting his, yeah, he's
getting his. He's like Guru.

(01:43:57):
He's like doing the costume on. Yeah, He's doing the thing of
like, who's my quarterback goingto be?
Right, right, right. He's doing the who's it gonna
be? Yeah, He comes out, he's like.
Yeah. What is close, Jaden Reed?
Close, you say? Yeah.
What is close? We'll say the other thing for
those of us still on the train with a little bit of stock,

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where is 0 at could happen. It's not impossible.
Yeah. I'm still some still not still
not nervous. But I have a question.
Yeah. I don't think it's a football
question. Also a football question.
One more thing on this chart before you ask that.
OK. Can't I say Seattle?
Can't believe Seattle almost traded this guy.

(01:44:42):
There was a lot of talk about that, at least based on the
shock that he was allegedly on the trade block.
Yeah. Like, can't believe they were
thinking about it, but here he is.
And you and I were all in on. We will get it.
Yeah, we absolutely should have.I mean, everybody wanted that to
happen. I remember.
What's her name? What's that?
What's the girl's name? Who called herself the fan GM.

(01:45:03):
And everybody loves her Brunettefan GM.
OK. K Adams.
K Adams. Yeah.
Yeah, she was she was big on trying to make that happen.
So here's my here's my football question.
You can't duck it anymore. You have to answer it, OK?
I will not duck it. If you are calling a defense and

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you are playing against an opponent who keeps calling a
Chiti slant, how would you defend that?
A what? A slant.
A slant? Yeah.
It's also known as Devante Adams.
All right, so this is Devante isin the slot and he runs a slant

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route. But it's like it's Chiti, right?
How would you defend that? It's impossible to defend three.
How would you defend it for you guys?
You'd triple Devante, Yes. For sure, for sure.
You got to triple him. You must triple him.

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What if there's no other option?But what if you go to triple
Devante and that's when your opponent runs the ball hard?
Play action. Here's the great news.
Here's the great news. You're dead guys.
Three guys guarding Devante off of play action.

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If two of them have the wherewithal, the blitz from that
alignment, I feel like you're ingood shape because if they have
to even think about the protection over there, Yeah,
with play action, you're in phenomenal shape right now.
It's like, hey, these two guys, there's one guy who might stay
on them, but these two might be coming or these two or these

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two. You might drive somebody like
off definitely McCarthy insane. I I think I think where you're
really dead is if you've been trying to defend, you're trying
to defend the slant and you go like basically you take your
corners and you run trips right over Devante in the slot.

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That's interesting with your corners.
You do that, but your opponent runs a play action off of a jet
sweep, right? So if the jet sweep runs, fake
the handoff, keep it and then pass it to the guy running the

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jet sweep. Oh my gosh, he's he's on the
other sideline and your trips over on Devante completely taken
out of the play. Nothing you can do.
Are they throwing it back on every time after they throw it
backwards to the jet sweep? Jameis Winston.
Jameis. Winston.
Is he going to, is he going to destroy?

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Is he going to push one of my linebackers face into the dirt?
I do not want that to happen. Your only your only option is
you have to force an interception on this play.
If you can't force an interception, you're dead in the
water. You're cooked.
Yeah, simply are cooked Professor cakes Is 1 upping us?

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How about having just two insidelinebackers playing spy?
It's a slant. I assume it's a short throw over
the middle. But if there's play action
involved as per the scriptures, as per the scriptures, the
linebackers must honor the run. OK, They must honor the run in a
play action. You must.

(01:48:35):
I think the your only option here for survival is if the
quarterback you're playing against is awful.
Like we're talking Jason Carthy.How about I have Sir Tan on
Adams? Can I have Sir Tan?
I would like Sir Tan for Adams. The guy way up here.

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Maybe just have him jump the route.
Right. Just have him jump the route.
Actually, you know what? No.
I can double Devante, not triple.
Give me Sir Tan and give me Dejean for the double.
We're feeling pretty. Good. 22 very French sounding
last names. Yeah, Surtant and Dejean and
we're winning is French cornerbacks.

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We've won the Paris game. This is the Paris International
game with Sir Thomas and Vivanteagainst Devante.
OK. Yeah, we've won the Paris game.
This is how you survive this. Glant is with French cornerbacks
in Paris. Yeah.
And then French cornerbacks in Paris defending international.
I think we found our title for this week's episode.

(01:49:38):
French cornerbacks in Paris defending the slant, the Sklant.
Yes. Yeah, that's that's the one.
Do you mind if we do a new section?
A new segment? Yeah, Presented by.
Yes. Redacted energy.
Yes. It's called ACC clinching.
No, Have you seen those? We got to talk about that at the

(01:49:59):
end. J Skate, in the chat here,
texted me after last week's episode, and he said he thought
it was hilarious that I'm doing this long segment talking about
REDACTED energy and the flavors of it while wearing a Mountain
Dew hat. He's like, you're going on and

(01:50:21):
on about how you're not going to, you're not going to do any
promos for REDACTED because theyaren't sponsoring you, but then
you're just wearing a Mountain Dew logo the whole episode.
That's fair. That's fair.
That's fair. That's that's, you know,
Mountain Dew's got enough money though, right?

(01:50:42):
And REDACTED, I feel like could use some, some boots on the
ground, potentially a little bitmore at least.
And that's, that's the plan. That is the plan.
I mean, I agree because REDACTEDclearly doesn't even have enough
staff members to respond to emails that I send them on the

(01:51:05):
regular asking them to sponsor our show.
Yes, there is a whole other phase to this game.
We've already talked about special teams, we've talked
about the defense. There's there's a whole other
component to this Packers Lions game, which is Packers offense

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has been putting up more points the last few weeks.
They've committed far fewer, almost no procedural penalties.
It's a lot cleaner. All right.
You remember our our crashing out episode, which was us
bottoming out overt. I'm sure she didn't say us.

(01:51:48):
You bottoming out. No.
What happened? It's all a blur.
I don't remember. No, can recall.
This was when this was when I had AI, had a migraine and then
my wife was like, OK, you say you have a migraine, but you're
screaming into the microphone. So I'm not sure how much I'd buy
that. So the offense has been playing

(01:52:10):
better these last two weeks. What is your confidence level
that the offense is going to have a good day against the
Lions defense on Thursday? 7 7/7 and 1/2.
Somewhere in there. I'm not my biggest concern.

(01:52:32):
I thought about doing the thing,but I'm not going to do.
I didn't do the thing. I stayed away.
What's the thing? Is it French cornerbacks in
Paris defending the scalant? No, my biggest concern for our
offense this week by far is the offensive line.
Do you have a bigger concern foroffense?

(01:52:55):
No, because that's obviously going to drive everything else.
Right. Like that's that's part of, you
know, it's also the phase of theoffense that's still not really
working. Yeah, it's the it's, it's the
part of the offense that's goingto dictate a lot, you know,
playing against a big unit on the interior.
Aiden Hutchinson, right. That's yeah, it it's can you run

(01:53:18):
the football effectively? Is play action still, you know,
an option for you like that, like all this?
Are you going to have to be in drop back pass a lot?
And I hope you can pass yeah, everything's going to come down
to is this unit gelling? Is this unit getting better?
Can banks play better? Can can they get something out
of the right guard position no matter who's playing it right?
Like all of this. Yeah, It that's that's why, you

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know, these last couple years, not this year as much, but like
last year. You go, man, how do you how do
you beat Philly when their offensive line is just pile
driving you and they have the best running back in the league?
Like, what are you supposed to do?
Right? Last year, there's no debating
it. If you could say what you want.
Last year it was it was the truth.
But it's just last year he was playing behind the best

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offensive line, that's for sure.Yeah.
And he's the most he's the second or third most explosive
running back and that that's what happens.
But like, that's the thing. What happens when you have a
that hole as big as a barn to run through every, every play?
Well, sounds like something Green Bay should get on that.
Green Bay should get on that. They could have the best back.

(01:54:24):
So, you know, that's that's something they should think
about screaming at the top of his lung.
Maybe, maybe, just maybe. I can't believe he's running so
far. Maybe just maybe anywhere near
him. Maybe, just maybe it's time to
draft a freaking guard. I know crazy You're preaching to

(01:54:45):
the choir. Never been heard before.
I'm not preaching to the choir. I'm preaching to the guy the the
Pew up there saying let's draft tackles who could play we think
could play guard. It's him.
He's the one who needs to be preached to that fella, right?
But like, that's what I mean. If you have a dominant offensive

(01:55:07):
line, like it, it just everything, everything goes,
everything goes. So I I have a 7 or 7 1/2 on the
confidence meter about the offense.
It's just again, yeah, that's why why do that?
I have a like hold on a second hold on the trenches.
It means everything. This we we talked about this
week. You're going too fast, right?

(01:55:28):
We talked about this week. 1 trenches is everything in this
game. It's everything.
Who cares about receivers or running backs, Really good
running backs like Jamir Gibbs, everything.
It's going to be decided with them boys up front period.
Pretty old just trying to ask you a question because you're

(01:55:49):
telling me you're not preaching to the choir.
I was still going. You're preaching to the the guys
upstairs. So my question is, are you
preaching to goody or are you preaching to Ed policy?
Because we have an Ed policy question.
Goody, goody. When people were talking about
Ed guards Ed policy to come. No guards Ed policy.
He's walking to the Max room, sensing a goody.

(01:56:10):
Yeah, policy going. Hey, this Emanuel pregnant
pretty good, huh? Chase Basantis, pretty good pass
director. Hey, this Venga Yowane, he's
pretty good, huh? Goody's like no, no, but we like
this Brian Parker cat from Duke.He's played tackle, but you know
when you put him in a guard or center, he'd be really good tool
for this wants to know is then he gets that policy back in the

(01:56:32):
face, an Edward policy or an Edmund policy, and the the
answer is he is an Edward. But, but do you know what his
middle name is? I'll give you a clue.
I'll give you a clue. He was born in Youngstown, OH
and he attended both Notre Dame and Stanford.

(01:56:54):
So what do you think his middle name is?
Notre Dame. He attended Notre Dame and
Stanford. Notre Dame and Stanford So what
do you think his middle name is?Ed Northern college football
policy you couldn't be more accurate.
Technically it's Regis, but thatis absolutely that's the that's
his middle day. That's that's going to the

(01:57:15):
title. Edward, Edward Regis policy.
OK, I like Edward Northern college football policy better.
Edward Northern college footballpolicy.
He's got to have some he's got to have some takes about where
Notre Dame is in the in the rankings.
He's got to have some takes about that.
Did you see Paul Finebaum grouching about how the media is

(01:57:40):
so biased in favor of Notre Dame?
And it's like, listen man, no itdoesn't matter, but also good,
correct, It doesn't matter if you're correct.
That is the most tone deaf, no, but good.
Least self aware thing I've everheard in my life of all people.
Paul Finebaum grouching about media bias toward somebody in

(01:58:02):
college football. Paul fine with four loss SCC
team in the playoff bomb. I want to give a we've got new
names. We're giving people new names.
Professor Cakes, who's still been trying to solve this slant
question in chat here. If he if you find the solution
on Madden, you'd come back and let us know.

(01:58:22):
Yeah. So so he he put a wrote a book
in the comments about his his theory.
All right. He wants to have two middle
linebackers playing SPY. He says they're not committed to
a zone because they're playing SPY.
Sure, if it's a play action boot, you'd hope your
linebackers playing SPY would realize that.

(01:58:44):
Then they could drop their SPY assignment on the quarterback,
assuming it's not a running quarterback.
Why? Again I say you're hoping that
your quarterback is not a game wrecker.
Then they could drop back in pass coverage.
He says that's that's AI went toprivate school name I've ever
heard. I mean Notre Dame, Stanford so

(01:59:06):
true the places you get into yeah, with a middle name like
Regis they they they come knocking at your second
birthday. They come knocking on the door
saying we got your we got your acceptance letter Harry Potter
right here. You bet on you were you bet on
the list. Yeah.

(01:59:28):
All right. So I'm, I'm still like, yes, the
offensive line is the most important part, but I also think
it's the one area where we stillhaven't seen any improvement in
the offense. The quarterback receiver
communication has been better. Those guys are much more on the

(01:59:49):
same, on the same page. I I felt like there was a like a
seven or eight place sequence. In the second quarter where
Jordan Love was kind of doing the Carolina game thing again of
like he had 6 plays or 6 passes in a row where he missed just

(02:00:14):
like a horrible inaccurate pass on all six.
And then one of them like the 5th or 6th in that sequence
still ended up getting caught. But it was kind of seemed kind
of almost on accident because the ball got the ball got tipped
and then just kind of into Wix'shands and overhead and Wix like

(02:00:38):
levitated 4 feet in the air to snag it.
And if he hadn't, there was a Minnesota defender behind him
that was gonna catch it. You talking about the fadeaway
jumper? You talking about the tipped
fadeaway jumper? Sure.
Yeah. He's got he's got a guy right in
his face. He's falling backwards, deep,

(02:00:59):
his own territory. It's third down at like the 17
inch yard line. Guy's right in his face thanks
to one of the guards. I forget which guard it was,
right or left, but throws the fadeaway jumper.
It gets tipped and Wix just saysI'll take that and levitates in

(02:01:20):
the air and snags it out of the air.
And then love calmed down again after that.
But there was a there was a 66 passes in a row.
One of me just dirts it missed acouple others.
So, like, that's still a lingering thing to me of

(02:01:45):
sometimes the offensive line is just breaking down so much in
pass pro and Jordan starts getting spooked.
And that I feel like has not been a staple calling card of
his game for his tenure as the Green Bay starter.

(02:02:05):
But in the last few weeks, we'veseen that at times.
Fadeaway jumper, the Giants game, huh?
Fadeaway jumper Jordan. That's some of the best plays
he's ever made. Air Jordan, if you will.
No, I'm no, no, I'm talking about Jumper King is back.
And let me tell you, talking about that, you ain't want to
see him. You don't want to see him.

(02:02:27):
Damn Thanksgiving. You ain't want to see him.
OK, I'm hoping that we get it's at your own risk, a replay of
the 2023 Thanksgiving game or 2024.
Either way, pick one. I'm going to be honest that I
don't. The 2024 Thanksgiving game is
not. That's not like emblazing to my

(02:02:50):
memory. Didn't we won that one big,
didn't we? Wasn't that a big that was we
played the Dolphins? No, I'm thinking about the 23
when we're playing the Lions. I know, I know.
I'm just saying I'm good. The Dolphins game was fun.
That's right. That's right.
I'm good. Either way you want I'm good.
We could do either. Either way to to I don't
remember. I think to like threw a lot of

(02:03:11):
passes, completed a lot of them because they were underneath.
Was that to his last game? Last good game before his brain
stopped working? Surely he didn't play many games
after that where his brain was working.

(02:03:36):
Let me see now he did play a good game after that, actually
the week after that and then he went well, what I don't I don't
know about that. But anyway.

(02:03:57):
But anyway, either way, Jordan'sJordan's played A2.
They just can't keep Jordan Loveoff Thanksgiving, which is fine
by me. Hey, at least he got his Turkey
leg last year. Is he gonna get a Turkey leg
this year? It's a, it's like a two-part
question like #1 is his team gonna win #2 if his team does
win, do they give him the Turkeyleg he is owed?

(02:04:20):
Because two years ago they didn't.
I really I would, I would like them to win.
So. And, and Tom Brady has to, has
to personally deliver said Turkey leg.
That's what I want, OK? I mean, at the very least, Tom
Brady is not going to RIP the Turkey apart like Greg Olson

(02:04:42):
did. I hate Greg Olson, by the way,
not like as a person, but as a commentator.
I hate listening to him announcegames.
It is the worst. I'd rather listen to Tom Brady
call a game than Greg Olson. Tom Brady almost dropped the N
word. How would you rather listen to
him? I didn't hear that.
He almost did that on Sunday. Which game was this on Sunday?

(02:05:05):
He almost did it. He was very close.
You can find it on Twitter, I promise.
Can you OK, Say fine fellow, butlike, give us the sentence that
he said, but say fine fellow. He tried to.
He tried to say Landon Dickerson's name and it did not
go well. Oh.

(02:05:26):
OK, so it was an honest mistake,you're saying yes, but he did,
he did, he did do it. It did happen.
And he was like, Oh my gosh, I'mso sorry.
I can't believe I'd do that. Oh, what's this in reference to?
J Skate said. Almost is not the same as doing
it. Almost What?

(02:05:47):
What did we say almost about I'mwith you Joe I with Joe Hey, I
with Joe has his own channel nowhis own YouTube account to
comment on stuff. Good good on ya, good on ya.
I agree Brady over Olson blasphemy.
I agree. It is it is it is among it is
among J JS worst takes of all time for sure.

(02:06:10):
I agree with you, Joe. It is it is up there with his
worst. Olson drives me nuts because he,
like he he 'cause he's educatingfans.
No, he drives me nuts 'cause he latches onto football
information that is false. Like he'll, he'll lock onto like

(02:06:31):
CJ, the reason that you're goingto lose me pretty quickly here.
I wouldn't keep going. I think this is just, this is a
this is one, this is perhaps your worst take ever.
I would just stop. I would, I beg, I beg you to
stop. This take is outrageously bad.

(02:06:53):
It is, it is so bad. I I just, I can't, I can't be
here for it. I can't be here for it.
I don't know. I, I don't know why you like
Greg so much, JJ, but clearly I need to get the hater blockers
back out because you're being a hater right now, man.
I, I felt like rage coming out for a second there and I just

(02:07:15):
need to take some deep breaths right now.
You're making the face that JJ McCarthy is making in this
picture as he's squeezing one out on the I need to breathe.
I just need to breathe, guys. I need about 30 seconds.
I, I almost had, I almost crashed out for a second time in

(02:07:37):
three weeks. We were extremely close.
I'm not scared you're not going to kick me off.
This is a good way for JJ to do this.
So he so he makes the the audience think he was kicked off

(02:07:57):
because he thinks that that I would have my hand on the mouse.
I love this move. It is a savvy move from him
right now. He is smiling with the hater
blocking sunglasses on in just it, like the green room area
right now, sticking his tongue out.
And I, I love it. I think it's hilarious.

(02:08:21):
He's having himself a good time.It's funny because when he
pulled himself off the screen, letting me come back in, when he
pulled himself off the stream, Iwas looking at Twitter on the
other screen in front of me. That's the best part.
I wasn't even looking when he pulled himself off.
That was incredible. I was looking at the ACC

(02:08:44):
cliching scenarios. Look after you permanently boot
me from this podcast and bring in Greg Olson as your Co host.
This pod is going to do numbers fans.
They're going to be so much smarter about the game.
You wouldn't even believe it. The amount of ball knowledge is
going to be outrageous on the pod.

(02:09:06):
I think it's time for a new segment presented.
We could bring in Tom Brady and look like fools that it's also
an option. We could do that.
I never said I like listening toTom Brady.
I'm just illustrating. I will never Tom Brady.
I will never get the the Commander's Chargers game out of

(02:09:30):
my head where he goes. A little juice there from the
Commanders. They have the juice the Chargers
do. Like what are you even saying?
It's just, I can't get that I hate Tom Brady.
I can't get those 3 senses out of my brain when I listened to

(02:09:52):
Tom on the broadcast and the Eagles game on top of it, they,
they the punt, the punt that wasfumble by Philly KB as Tom calls
him KB, you know, go through theplay by play and you're just
sitting there and they're showing the replay and it's
like, hey, tom-tom, tom-tom say,say anything, say something, say

(02:10:15):
something great by the kid. That's it.
That's all he says. Oh.
It it is, it is hilarious. And we have to listen to him on
Thanksgiving, which is just awful.
Hopefully, hopefully you know, the lines of the Packers run the

(02:10:35):
ball really well in the game andwe aren't subjected to three.
Excuse you. There's a different game called
The Game. No, nobody cares about that
game. We're worried about Virginia,
Virginia Tech, because if Virginia Tech wins, everything

(02:10:56):
breaks loose in the ACC Everything.
There's an Ole Miss fan. Well, hey, I tell you what's
hold on a second. There is a scenario where if
Michigan beats Ohio State and then if Purdue beats Indiana,
Michigan and Ohio State rematch next week in the Big 10 title

(02:11:19):
game and then they are on a collision course to play a third
time in the playoffs. Wow.
And not one soul on the planet except for TV executives want
that to happen. No, I'm in.
I'm I'm a sick. Oh, I'm in.
You want to see those two teams play each other twice in two
weeks back-to-back? Yes, absolutely.

(02:11:41):
It's like it's like the it's like the it's like what you
know, divisional opponents. I'd have a mental breakdown.
Divisional opponents when you'replaying each other the last week
of the season and you know, you're playing each other the
wild card round. So you're sitting around going,
well, what do you what do we do here?
What are we doing? That would be Iowa.

(02:12:02):
Joe says Mike Kawano would want it to happen.
No, he wouldn't. There's no Ohio State.
No, there's way who want to see those two teams playing in
back-to-back weeks. Nobody wants that.
Kawano's got to be stressing like JJ is this week.
He doesn't want to see it twice either.
I agree, yeah, absolutely no wayhe wants that.
He does not if you're a real fanof one of these two teams, like

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this is like the best and worst week at the same time in your
entire year. You don't want it to.
It's every single waking moment leading up to the game you're
thinking about it. Not to mention not to mention
it's Thanksgiving week on top ofit.
And it's just like, oh, who cares about Thanksgiving?
No, no, just like, OK, well, what type of thing you don't
have you don't have work to distract.
Yeah, you're you're right. You're sitting around.

(02:12:45):
Yeah, you're sitting around. There's no like you're just like
maybe you have work on Friday, maybe you don't, maybe you're
out early Wednesday, out early Friday, or you don't have it
Friday and you're just, yeah, potentially for 48 hours, 55
hours, you know, 60 hours maybe after Wednesday evening going.
I don't know what to do myself for, for two and two days and

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change, I imagine. So, yeah, that's, that's awful.
Do not like that one bit. There's a there's a Ole Miss fan
who tweeted that the game is a terrible name for the game.
And I reply, it's like, sorry, the Egg Bowl was taken.

(02:13:31):
That's good. That's good.
Also, I feel like we have to be specific because if an Ohio
State plays in a game, people are going to be like, wondering
which game. So that's what we have to say.
The Ohio State plays in the game.
Yeah, No, I get that. Egg Bowl was taken, right?

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Platypus was taken. Duke's Mayo Bowl.
Yeah, there's just so many things they couldn't do.
So I yeah, that's that's tough. I I don't envy you.
The game is a is a lame name. Like, you know what?
Sorry, we don't get excited. We're watching our head coach
get a tub of Mayo dunked on his head like does does Notre Dame,

(02:14:13):
USC have a name? I feel like I wish we would know
if they did. I'm asking ChatGPT.
Answer is I feel like no, right?It doesn't.

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Wow. The best, I think the best
rivalry name of all time is the Red River Rivalry.
Yeah, I have a Joe said the rivalry name games.
That's what I need to know what I I hate.

(02:15:03):
OK, you got it JJ, you got to see this.
JJ is going to rage like me about 5 minutes ago.
Wait till you see that's fine. We we can do this and then let's
come back and and rank the wait till we do this rivalry game.
What on earth? What is this?
This is what you're doing. What is this the big game?
The big game is what is this? No, it's not top teams in the

(02:15:27):
SEC. Who the heck has ever called the
SEC conference championship the big game?
This is outrageous that this is on the Internet.
We can't do this. Also, the Iron Bowl is not
played in a bowl. This is also.
This is also not USC and UCLA. Yeah, whatever AI wrote this
page that you're looking at, getoff this page.

(02:15:49):
It's just Google. It's just the search page.
It isn't even the page. Red River's Shootout is easily
the best name. All right, this has to be right.
I hate that they are like, insisting on renaming it to the
Red River Rivalry. Like Red River Shootout is such
a good name. Wagon Wheel Wheel.
That's kind of sick. I'm not gonna.
But that's that's the trophy. That's not the name of the game.
That's the it's just the that's the name of the trophy.

(02:16:14):
Nothing's gonna top the Holy War.
Battle for the boot. Oh, yeah, that's true.
So the Holy War is BYU Utah. It's the it's the same.
It's the two Utah teams, but then the other Battle for the
Bone. Never heard of this.
The other one that's really good, though, is Catholics
versus Convicts. Notre Dame, Miami.

(02:16:38):
Yeah, that's up. Oh, man.
Well, Bedlam. Bedlam's good.
Bedlam's good. The Axe.
Oh, this. Yeah.
Big game. Al Stanford played for the axe.
The big game is not SEC. That's right.

(02:16:58):
This is the big game. Hal Stanford is big game.
I don't border war, but not thisone.
This one, This one. Yeah.
Kansas. Missouri is the real war.
This year is about Colorado State, Wyoming.
Yeah, Yes. Andas Missouri is the border
war. Eight years too late, suckers.
Too late. You did it in 1899.

(02:17:22):
Nope. 170 year old B? Nope.
Got A How that works. Math caught him slip in 1891 too
far ahead of them. That's hilarious.
It's 130, not 170. The K goes.
I can do math. Clean, old fashioned hate.

(02:17:44):
That's that's didn't know they called it that.
Georgia Tech. I didn't know what it was
called. No, that's OK.
Game name. All right.
I'm OK with that. Crab Bowl is that game that
Jameis Winston plays in. That's good.
That's good. That's good.
They've only played 21 times. I don't know, man.

(02:18:04):
Seems a little too small a number for me.
Duel in the desert. I want to make sure that the
other ones we were talking aboutthat were good are not that
either. Hold on.
These two have played? Yeah. 121.
OK. We're fine.
I what? Joe said.
OK. I thought this said crap bowl.

(02:18:24):
The crap bowl. Yeah. 118, Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah, there's a crap Coastal
Carolina. Liberty has only been played 15
times since the first game was in 2003.
Come on, I think I think the eggBowl is the worst name.
It's the worst rivalry name there.
It's not a good name. This is a good Mississippi State
old mess. Farmageddon is great.

(02:18:45):
You know, they keep great name Armageddon.
I'm I'm not sure like who's leading the obviously the the TV
execs leading the charge to rename Farmageddon.
But like if they ever do, I willride pitch fork you.
We will pitch have you in your 109 times.
I will not stand. I will not stand for this.

(02:19:06):
I know. They don't call this anymore.
They have removed the world's largest outdoor cocktail party
from Florida, Georgia. I don't understand why they
renamed that. They you know why they renamed
it? Yeah.
They didn't want cocktail party to be associated.
It's weird anyway. Stupid.
Really stupid. Anyway, I mean, that's body

(02:19:31):
bucket. Cool.
No, it's just the riot. That's just the trophy name.
Yeah, I mean, yes, things we're here for cool trophy.
But you'll notice that the Illinois fan here is the one who
cares about the Eli Buck and notthe Ohio State fan for sure of

(02:19:54):
the Illinois, Ohio State quote, UN quote rivalry.
Cyhawk's a good name. Cyhawk's a good name.
Only 72. Tells me farm again is way more
important. Farm again is way more
important. Iron Bowl is a misleading name.
It's not played in the bowl. Oh man, Professor Cakes is

(02:20:20):
asking what is a fighting a lion?
It's a type of Native American. It is, yes.
They had to fight. Professor KAKE says Battle of
I-75 sounds pretty Hoosier to me.
And I can say that as my whole family is from Indiana.
Lone Star Showdown. That's horrible.

(02:20:41):
It's fine. It's passable.
Yeah. We can live with that guy.
Some other good ones. What?
Yeah. See Michigan.
Michigan State doesn't have a name.
The Battle for the No, nobody calls it that.
I live in Michigan 118 times they're and it's in state and
it's you've got to do something.No, literally Michigan, Michigan

(02:21:04):
State is what they call it. That's what everybody refers to
it as. Yeah.
Mid South rivalry. Hold on, you're scrolling too
fast. Mid South, where they go?
Memphis. What is this how they played 64
times? They're not even in the same
while that they've played that. Were they ever in the same
conference? Hold on, I'm opening.

(02:21:27):
They have to have been. And wait, let's say they have 12
ties in the series. Is no way can you switch tabs?
Can you switch to? No, they do not.
The Ole misleads 4712 and 2. Two ties.
OK, the largest victory in this rivalry, Mississippi beat beat
Memphis 92 to 0 in 1935. Ouch.

(02:21:51):
That's tough. Memphis won the most recent
game. Do you know when that when it
was? Oh, wait, Nope, wait.
He might decease it. I'm going to guess like 1999.
Oh, I thought you were for sure going to be cluded to the fact
that 2029 were here. I was like, all right, so I'm
off like not going to work. Yeah, they.

(02:22:12):
I just thought like, why do theyplay so often?
They're not in the same state, they're not in the same
conference. Why do they play so often prior
to the, Oh my gosh, gaming the Minnesota Nebraska trophy, which
is the $5 bits of broken chair trophy.
Yo. OK.
Prior to the 2019 football game,former Vista Civi receiver AJ
Braun tweeted that the series was not a rivalry, and Vista

(02:22:36):
Civi quarterback Matt Carrell answered no when asked if he
considered this to be a rivalry.Got get owned.
Get owned. Yeah, get absolutely owned.
Mississippi won the 1st 17 times, and then they tied, and
then they won eight of the next 9.

(02:23:00):
It's tough out here. OK, this might be the best part.
So they played four times in the20 tens.
Both of Mississippi's wins have been vacated, and Memphis has
two of the four. That's incredible.
Honestly. That's so funny.
OK, so when was Ole Miss's last win that's recognized in the

(02:23:25):
history? Oh, is it 199909009?
OK. Yeah.
Yeah, That's weird. All right, let's, let's see some
more. It's the turn of the century.
Technically, Memphis is 4 and 6,which is not bad.
Let's see. Let's.
Let's see the rest of the good names.
Get our score predictions and get out of here.
Yeah, modern day hate, Georgia Southern, Georgia State, modern

(02:23:48):
day. What's up with Georgia?
They use they're using hate in all their ones.
That's, you know, I and the two teams that hate each other the
most in the entire country. They just call their game the
game. Yeah, 12 times modern day hate
has been played 12 times. Are we split?

(02:24:09):
I'm I'm going to look at this while I scroll.
Also, you say that it is 6/6. That's incredible.
Let's go. That's awesome.
All right, I'm in on modern day.Hey, I'm in I'll I will.
This needs to be one that need aname.

(02:24:30):
Super unfortunate. We don't get that anymore.
By the way, Speaking of Oklahoma, so right now, the way
with the the new committee rankings that are out right now,
Jewel Chalala, what the heck is this?
Oops, I didn't mean to click on it.
I meant to open a new tab anyway, not with the with the

(02:24:53):
newest committee rankings. The the bracket pits Georgia
against the winner of Tulane, Texas Tech, which obviously is
going to be Texas Tech, and thenOhio State is facing the winner

(02:25:18):
of Notre Dame Oklahoma, which I like a lot as an Ohio State fan.
Like that would be so fun to play against either Notre Dame
or Oklahoma. That would be a good time.
Yes, I like it. And then like, and, and then
that, that has Ohio State then facing up against the winner of
Georgia, Texas Tech, assuming Ohio State wins their first

(02:25:39):
game, which is an interesting spot to be in because I feel
like this is really probably thetoughest draw that you could get
as the number one seed. Like the number one seed
continues to be a pretty disadvantageous spot when you're
playing the winner of the 8-9 seed.
Like, it's so far we just, we'venever seen a bracket where 8-9

(02:26:03):
is not a really tough draw. So then and then like, you win
that and you got to go play against the winner of Georgia,
Texas Tech. Like, yeah, Texas Tech has a
mean, nasty, stinky defensive line that I don't want to go up
against. Yeah, Georgia shouldn't want to

(02:26:23):
either. Yeah.
Georgia hoping for that two laneby the other side of the bracket
is just it's it's like a cupcakewalk like.
To represent like they are the. Tulane of of their side of the
of the bracket like can I Oregonis good but super flawed A&M is

(02:26:44):
good but super flawed. Can I ask like a question we
have to expect Indiana or probably like Indiana's probably
going to be in the title game. If this is the bracket, I I have
a question. Why is the team in T fifth
position in the ACC standings inthe playoff, may I ask?

(02:27:09):
They need a lot of help. Yeah, a lot of help.
They need. They have 4 clinching scenarios
and they're they're the longest group of clinching scenarios
that there is of anyone to win the ACC.
It it is insane. They are 11.

(02:27:31):
Zero respect for the Cavaliers 0Respect for a team who was in
the playoff last. Year bind you.
In SMU 0 respect. How dare you committee ACC.
Like outside of Georgia Tech theACC is just dog water.
This year it's just it's bad again.
I'm rooting for the six way tie.I don't know about anybody else.

(02:27:55):
The six way tie at the top wouldbe hilarious.
Yeah, Miami needs a lot of things.
They need some help. Win SMU win Duke loss Virginia
loss. Win Virginia win Duke loss SMU
loss NC State, win Syracuse win is one way to kidding.
I can't even believe any of this.

(02:28:18):
It's wild that Duke needs less to happen than Miami, because if
anybody didn't know, well look, look at Pitt.
Pitt has the the easiest path. Like the fewest.
So the fewest things. Need to happen so there is a.
Way folks, for Virginia loses the Virginia Tech S of U loses

(02:28:40):
that Cal, Miami has to beat Pittand then Duke wins.
OK, it doesn't matter what Georgia Tech does.
They they're playing Georgia, right?
Six way tie at six and two in the conference.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Why do you say it doesn't matterwhat Georgia Tech does?
Just because it's a non conference game?
Correct. It will not affect the
standings. It will affect the playoffs.

(02:29:01):
That you were dismissing the possibility of Georgia Tech
beating Georgia. Oh no, no, not stand for.
No, no, no, not stand. It does not matter what Georgia
Tech does. They are caught in the loot.
They are caught in the unfortunate scenario if they
will be a part of a six way tie at six and two no matter what
they do. If that happens, I believe it is

(02:29:24):
Duke and SMU that go unless I'veread it wrong and SMU Duke would
be the one. Duke is Duke wins the regular.
Season is the one. If the if everybody's six and
two here and they are a six and five team, honestly, I feel like
Miami winning the ACC is like one of the least likely

(02:29:47):
scenarios. They they.
Need a lot of help as we as we've.
Seen over here they like they have more possible scenarios
than anybody else out in here but none of them are likely
scenarios. But obviously Virginia and SMU
win, Pittsburgh get a win and one of the other two that need
just a win to lose like it is insane.

(02:30:07):
SMU, Pitt and Georgia Tech I could all I could see all them
obviously love this Georgia TechGeorgia Tech just.
Sees they're both lose. Virginia and I love it.
Georgia Tech, we can't play the conference game.
Huh? Who are who are Virginia and SBA
playing? Of course Virginia is playing

(02:30:29):
Virginia Tech SMU is at Cal. They are playing a team that has
recently fired their coach. I have a question.
Which you know. James Franklin will James
Franklin be coaching the team for this game?
I don't believe so, but boy, youtell me.
He's not on the sideline saying hey, that would be hilarious.

(02:30:50):
He was there coaching that game and then coach them to a win
over Virginia to send Georgia Tech to the playoffs.
Oh, cinema, cinema they. OK.
So there is something else with the ACC about like they have

(02:31:11):
like this thing. Yeah, it's called, what is it
called? It's called a grand of rights.
Well, so. They go.
To like something that I have to.
Yeah, I'm staring at this photo.They go.
To a they go. To a team with the team with the
higher ranking by the team rating score metric provided by
Sports source analytics will determine the six way tie.

(02:31:38):
What? Yeah, if if it gets to that
point. That's how wild.
This ACC thing. Could be you.
You must root for chaos. Jake.
Controversial opinion divisions were better than.
All the these. Absurd tiebreaker scenarios,

(02:32:02):
yeah. And I say that as somebody who
hated the Big 10 W. Existence with a passion.
Yeah, OK, I found it. So the tiebreaker.
Would go to Duke in the sixth way they are in they win the
regular season. The G Georgia Tech Miami would
get the other spot. One of the two.
I was wrong. It's not SMU and that will hinge

(02:32:25):
on the result of Boston College Syracuse.
Oh my gosh, how that game goes is how Georgia Tech and like
Syracuse begging you for the chaos.
Syracuse and bus pilots are bothhorrible this year.
Yes, please root for the chaos. This is going to be one of the

(02:32:45):
most hilarious things you'll ever see.
Ever. It will be unbelievable.
People are. Lining up saying we.
Need a six coach steel cage match?
I'm just sad. I mean, they need to meet in the
parking lot or a gas station andflip coins like they, they're,

(02:33:07):
they're bringing up all these incredible things that that
could happen. Like I, I just want, I want this
so bad. I'm just sad that Syracuse
couldn't take care of business 2weeks ago and beat Miami at home
because that would have been so fun.
The funny thing is, is JJ, do you think if the six.

(02:33:30):
Way tie happens. Do they keep everyone out
because they only need to have? Do they?
Need to have 5 or 4 conference champions?
I'm pretty sure you're supposed to have all of them.
But I don't remember well. It's not No, no, not.
All the top four well because like the PAC 12 isn't in here,

(02:33:53):
right and like group of five is 5 conference.
Yeah, but group of 5 is. Not a conference.
It's a group of conferences. So is it that they need to have
4 conference champions in or five?
Because here's the thing. Washington State.
I don't think has a case. To be in over like any of these

(02:34:19):
six way tie ACC teams like. Yeah, just head.
To head like, pick the worst of these six ACC teams head.
To head them with Washington. State.
Washington State. It wouldn't be ranked ahead of
any of them. Yeah.
No. And Oklahoma State is one of the

(02:34:40):
worst teams in the country. I mean, are they putting a Duke
champion? Yeah.
In at 8:00 and 5:00. I mean, maybe you think of.
Maybe you think about. A second.
Group of Five team. Right.
And so you. Got Tulane?
It's Tulane and. And who's the other one?

(02:35:02):
North Texas. Tulane.
Well, North Texas doesn't have acoach anymore.
North Texas doesn't have a coachanymore.
That's correct. Yes.
Because what's his name? This is how this is how insane
this will get. I'm begging everyone.
Do you imagine if they put NorthTexas in the same committee that
left Florida the state out? That left.

(02:35:23):
Florida, an undefeated Florida State.
They left him out of the four team playoffs.
There's also the same freaking committee that left Ohio State
out. Over Cincinnati.
And they left Ohio State out over TCU.
That's right, yes. I'm like I have to stop because

(02:35:47):
I'm. I have to talk about something.
Else or. Profanities are going to start
flowing. New top.
I can't Syracuse. Boston like we, we need it.
I need it in my veins. Please.

(02:36:08):
I hate the committee so much. All right, all right, so so this
will be our. Last thing before we do our
score predictions. Go Red River Shootout, not Red
River. Rivalry.
Again, they don't like Rocky Mountain Showdown.
Colorado, Colorado. State 93 times.
I've never. Heard of this royal rivalry?
Between James Matthews like Old Dominion, I love this name.

(02:36:31):
This is exactly what this shouldbe called. 66 matchups ever.
Yes, but only lasts. Exactly what?
It should be called This is 100%Dukes and the Monarchs.
Yeah, this is hold on. Exactly.
Does do Michigan State and USC have a rivalry because the

(02:36:51):
Trojans and Spartans? No they do not.
Wow, they have a Meg battle? For the megaphone, but they do
not have. USC that, yeah, we need like we

(02:37:13):
need the. Like the?
Trojan War, It's called the Trojan War, right?
Yes. That's 100% what it should be
called. Spartans versus Trojans I I I
will not search for this I. Will not stand for this.
I can't. Stand for this one.
I don't care that they've played100.
And eight times I. Cannot.

(02:37:34):
I will not stand for this. What do you think?
This is Easter? What are we planning for here?
This is ridiculous. We're not.
Do we? Can't do this.
We have to come up with something else.
I I cannot stand that. We have to come up with
something else. So AJI guess that's our
assignment. We got to come up with something

(02:37:55):
from Bama, Tennessee that's not.The third set, I mean, I will
say as an Ohio State fan, we more frequently refer to it as
the last Saturday of November than we do the game.
Like we always call it the last Saturday of November.
That's fair, but see, that sounds better the last Saturday

(02:38:17):
in October. Like the third one couldn't be
the last one. Couldn't be.
It's like. As what are we doing hitting as
the term? Penultimate, yeah.
Penultimate October Saturday POSSaturday in October.
No, no, it's got to be. It's got to be Penultimate
October, Saturday POS. Oh, yeah, there you go.

(02:38:41):
The POS. Oh, that's it has to be that.
That's what we're doing. We have changed it.
You're welcome everyone on that note.
On that note. We need your score prediction
for Green Bay Detroit at Ford Field on Thanksgiving.

(02:39:02):
Who you got? Give me your score prediction.
You know, I'm nervous to give mine.
I I am as well. I'm hurts to say.
What's the line? Lines are 2 1/2 point favorites.

(02:39:26):
Yeah. What's our famed over Under?
4949. OK, I'm going to go.
I'm going to go I'm. Going to go. 2620.
One Detroit Lions. So I think I'm going to.

(02:39:54):
Chris has Packers. 2113. Guy hopes, I think.
I think. I want it.
I think the Packers. Are going to kind of sling it
around a little bit, OK. I think they will have.
I think it's going to be kind ofa high ish scoring game if it

(02:40:16):
has that feel. To it.
To me, I'm kind of seeing like Packers 31 Lions. 2720. 8:00
Somewhere in there, but. That it's.
Not that close for for a while. Like by the end of the third

(02:40:40):
quarter, I feel like the Packerswill have pulled away.
And then it kind of gets. Heart burning again a little bit
in you know, quote, UN quote garbage time like like it's
still yeah, as much as you can call like a three-point win
garbage time like I. I think it'll be kind of that
scenario of. Like the Packers?
Have a 2 score lead and then they are like just really slow

(02:41:04):
rolling the Lions. But actually doing it
successfully. You know, it's not like, it's
not like the Tommy DeVito Giantsgame where it's like, hey, we're
gonna, we're gonna protect our lead and make you like earn your
way down the field. And then it's like 3 plays later
they score. You know, crap like that.
Like I think they'll actually besuccessful and making them burn

(02:41:24):
the clock and then they'll get the the touchdown needed onside
kick it, Packers recover. That's kind of how I see it
ending. I'm begging for that to be right
and for my. Take on the game.
To be awful. I want my take to look like crap

(02:41:47):
when we meet next Tuesday. I.
Would love nothing. More.
That's what we're hoping for. I think I'm officially going.
Packers 30. One Lions. 27 to.
Where to where like when they'reattempting the onside kick,
you're thinking like we you still have to get another

(02:42:07):
touchdown. Field goal is not going to win
it. You have to get in the end or a
field goal is not going to tie it right that that you need to
so so I think that's where I'm at.
Do you do you think this is the highest scoring Thanksgiving
game? What are the other who's who's
Chiefs, Cowboys. Chiefs, Cowboys.

(02:42:28):
And then Ravens, Bengals. No Ravens, Bengals is going to
be like they're they'll run under that and that game's going
to be. 70 points easy. Is it so it's, it's it's so
you're, you're thinking it's going to be exactly like
Thanksgiving, right? Eat early, you know, get the
food in you and then it's in theafternoon and then we back up

(02:42:56):
during the. Evening with some like.
Pie and all that. The sugar high.
We're we're, we're it's. Flowing in a 70.
Point shootout. I love that.
Oh, man, I love it. Oh man, Drew says 3117 Packers
pick Six blows. The.
Game Open certainly could see that with Jared.
Goff if the. If the Packers can get some

(02:43:16):
pressure on him, he is terrific this game.
Who gets the pick six, if there is one, you know, everybody's
going to be expecting it to be Evan Williams because he's been
such a ball hawk lately. But I think that Goff is going
to. Be kind of avoiding him.
And watch him too closely and therefore he's going to throw it
to like Tyron Hopper or Quay Walker.

(02:43:39):
OK, I got coop. I got Coop kind of feel like one
of the defensive ends is going to do for an interception.
Like like maybe Rashan Gehrig gets an interception.
Kingsley Kingsley. Is he going to be out there
enough to to get one potentiallymaybe like I think Tyron?
Hopper might play more snaps than.
Hopper getting a pick 6 would beawesome.

(02:44:02):
I I airs, Joy airs. Joy will be back in the chat
next week. If Hopper gets a pick six, you
can. You can guarantee that he will.
Be the chat thing's Valentine's getting the pick for that one JJ
he will be here I do have to sayand I I said this out loud
during the game I said after hopper made a really nice play
he was he chased down Aaron Jones and.

(02:44:26):
Tackled him and I. Said, You know what, I owe it to
Tyron Hopper to come on the podcast this week and officially
endorse that he is playing good football.
Now I'm in on Tyrone Hopper. Wow.

(02:44:46):
After all this time, you've heard it here first.
You've heard it here first. Potentially next week we'll be
asking everyone will be asking JJ to get off the train.
We'll see. We'll see.
I I hope that that only fuels the train and we are, we are
actively funneling way more coalin there and it is humming.

(02:45:08):
I've never been that kind of jinx where like me liking a
player hurts them that that's not that I carry some football
jinxes. That's not one of them.
OK, so, so we're OK there. OK, that's good.
That's good. OK, listen, Evan Williams and
Chris is saying Valentine XX. I'm going to go coop.

(02:45:31):
I'm going to go coop I believe. Well.
I believe in Edward. Regis policy and the Late and
the Words. Words of Edward.
Regis I would also. Like to say that I apologize to
JJ for getting a little too animated about his Greg Olsen
comments earlier in the pod. It was rude that you kicked me

(02:45:52):
off the stream. It was, in the words of late,
great Mr. Ed policy. Put your hand over your heart,
you heathen. It's true, heathen.
It's true. I am.
How did you know? Happy Turkey Day, everybody.
Yes. Hug your.
Family, I'm thankful this Thanksgiving, I'm thankful for
you guys in the chat thankful for you my Co host Jake, except

(02:46:15):
for when you get mad and yell atme.
That was not very fun. It was not, it was not a good
thing. And I hope you guys are thankful
for for this podcast because like it's a lot of fun, but it's
also it's I mean, it's a whole evening every single week.
So it's you know, it's it is, itis a it is a unique experience.
You, you come here not for an hour to dip.

(02:46:36):
It's not ATV show where it's like 42 minutes with
commercials. It's a it's an evening.
It's the length of a football game.
It's really so, especially now that they've like shorten the
college football games, like nowit's it really is about.
The length of a college. It really is.
So thank you for for coming for our Tuesday, for your Tuesday

(02:46:58):
football game, essentially Tuesday Night Football.
You're welcome. That's the we we may that might
be the rebrand. We're not going to I don't know
if we're not going to football. Oh, what if that was just the
name of our podcast? It was just I, you know, I mean,
do people really like the name derailed?
I mean, it doesn't all right, now I have to check.

(02:47:20):
Something I got it. Derailedistuesdaynightfootball.com
Taken. Tuesday night.
Football.com. It's taken, of course, because
they're Dang it. There you go, but.
Tuesday Night dot football is available, so there's.
That oh. That might be better.
Or for $1500 you can get TuesdayNight taco.com, Tuesday Night

(02:47:46):
Taco. They're recommending.
For $100 Tuesday Night Football.That sucks, you know.
You know what I don't mind? Tuesday.
Tuesday. Night Taco, we can shorten it to
TNF, yes? Speaking of shortening, Tuesday
Night Football tuesdaynight.com is available for

(02:48:06):
tuesdaynightfootball.com. It this is the better TNF.
I know there's something we do agree on as far as announcers,
JJ, TNF, that's for sure. No, I don't.
I I've got to tell you, I haven't watched Thursday Night
Football. In such a long.
Time and the reason the reason it's it's not the production

(02:48:31):
quality of like Amazon or anything.
It's that it's that the footballteams always stink.
But Thursday night, that's fair.It's it's always awful.
It's always awful. It's fair that short week does
nobody have any favors unless it's Thanksgiving and then then
you get some good games. But otherwise it's just.
Not worth. Watching that's true so listen

(02:48:53):
put it in the chat all right tell us you know what do you
think do you like derail? Do you like Tuesday Night
Football? Maybe we should change the name
of our of our podcast. You know, it's fine.
We've only spent, you know, a year trying to rebrand this as
the derailed football podcast, but.
You know, whatever. Maybe, you know, maybe it is
what it is. Maybe we just have to rebrand to
Tuesday football. So let's know in the chat here

(02:49:16):
on YouTube, you can let us know.You can tweet at us at JJ Leahy
at Jake NFL draft or you can leave a comment on Spotify.
We haven't gotten any Spotify comments in a minute and those
are fun to see. So yes, they are in the words of
the late great. What do you got, Jake?
We got Mr. Ed policy. We'll we'll, we'll, we'll,

(02:49:37):
we'll, we'll take it offline. We'll take it offline, Drew
says. If you.
Change it, then change it to derail Packers.
Podcast. Which?
Makes sense, but also like we talked about non Packers things
and we're like we want some other people as derail brought
to you by the OPE network by Hope Whoop Midwest.

(02:49:59):
It's the Derail podcast brought to you by.
Redacted energy. And Edward Regis.
Policy. Thank you all so much for.
Listening. Go, pack.
Go.

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