Mustache Rankings, Packers Playoff Path, and J.J. Gets CANCELLED (Stick a Fork in 'Em!)

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And you did. Now come on.
I woke up 1 morning just a regular schmo.
Green Bay was restless. Spirit ran low and then it hit
me. I had to let it show.
So shout it so loud. Go, pack.
Go. Welcome back to Derailed.

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I'm your host JJ Leahy here withmy good friend Jake Shivik.
Jake, how you doing this fine Tuesday evening?
Doing well. Doing well.
It's it's it's Bears week. It's going to be quite a ride.
Yeah. The Bears, you know, they're
super duper good right now. I mean, they beat up on a bunch

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of really good teams, so they'revery good.
Don't you forget it. The chat won't forget it.
The chat is is talking about mustaches.
Wasn't prepared for that today. It's fortunate, however, that
you and I both have mustaches. Tyler Durstall says any movie

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with a good mustache deserves a watch.
Doctor Strange has a mustache. It's a good movie, Durstall also
says I do a mustache crawl everyyear.
Only time the fiance lets me keep one.
I'm terrified to ask what a mustache crawl is.
I know what I'm There's something else with the word

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mustache in it that I know what it is and I'm wondering.
I don't want to say it but. I'm.
Really nervous about what a mustache crawl is, Dirsel says.
Essentially, you overpaid to getinto bars in Wrigleyville and
everywhere everyone wears or grows mustaches.

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Yeah, Chris, Chris, the casual knows what I'm talking about.
I'm not not putting it on screen, but you and then yeah.
So I guess this started because two over this said he's watching
Smokey and the Bandit as part ofDecember 1 Burt Reynolds movie

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each day of December. Do you have any crazy traditions
throughout the year like December?
No, I don't think so. Other than the traditional stuff

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around this, around this lovely sport that we talk about every
week, I feel like not really a whole lot, not in this vein at
least. I I don't have a month that I
change kind of the wording for, for something like this.
OK, well, I have a thought and Iwant to I want to, I want to

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share this thought with you, OK.And I'm worried about how you're
going to receive this tool over that says Burt Reynolds has the
best mustache. And I'm going to I'm going to
disagree with that Ed policy hasthe best mustache.

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Ed policy with a mustache. This is this is everything I
didn't know I needed. I it's better than Mike Ditka's
mustache. Ed policy with a mustache clears

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Mike Ditka every time. Looks like a Tom Selleck
mustache. Well, I mean, I I would say
prior to Ed policy actually growing a mustache, Tom Selleck
does have the best mustache out there.
But I think that Ed policy wouldclear even even the great Tom
Selleck, those bold words, but Idon't hate the take.

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Tool for this, says Eduardo Policia.
Here we go. Tool for this says The Lorax has
the best mustache of all time. Mustache to your list.
Oh, maybe we should mustache to your list.
That's going to have the title. All right.

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If we get through all of the if we get through all the important
stuff and we have time, I think we're going to have to mustache
to your list. Yes, I think so.
All right. But.
Before, before we can do any of that, we definitely have to get

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into football. I think there's a little bit of
college football that's worth touching on and a lot of Chicago
Bears and rivalry stuff to talk about.
The most important college football development is brought
to you by crumble cookies. Do you know about this one,
Jake? This is the this is the biggest,
the biggest story of the day. Crumble cookies.

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Do you know what crumble cookiesare?
I do. My wife loves Chromebook cookies
there. I've had them a couple times.
There's it's it's not for me. It's not my type of cookie, but
Chris is. I'm still like also best chest
lettuce. I think I can give Tom Selleck
work for his money there. He probably wins, but I bet I'm

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I bet I'm honorary mention. I know that's supposed to be
like a celery stock, but boy, let me tell you that emoji is
it's not, it's not looking good down there.
I know it's supposed. I feel like you and I are.
I know it's supposed to be. I know it's supposed to be
celery. But man, I feel like I feel like

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you and I are seeing different emojis.
What I see is very clearly a leaf of lettuce and then a bowl
of salad and then repeat those two.
It's very clear on my screen. With that, I think we are
looking at two different sets ofemojis.
Maybe. You should screenshot what you
see and message it to me and I'll if it's different, I'll

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screenshot mine. We could put them on the screen
side by side. I screen, I, I took one.
We'll we'll get this. Could be this could be a very
important development if we've secretly been looking at
different emoji sets this entiretime.
It is true. All right, I have my I have my

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screenshot ready. I'm about to look at yours when
yours comes through. And the important thing during
rivalry week, Sell celery slash lettuce emojis.
That's the most important thing in rivalry week.
Where are you sending me this? I don't.

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I don't have it. Oh, oh, I see it coming through.
Oh, that is you are looking at. So what you're this is
interesting. What you are looking at is very
much that's the I'm on the windows laptop, but that's very
clearly you're looking at the Microsoft Windows emoji set and
I'm not What I see is very different.

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OK, so I'm gonna I'm gonna screen share.
OK, sorry, I apologize. I wonder what the people are
seeing. That's that's interesting.
Well, yeah, we'll we'll have to see.
So first of all, here's here's what I'm seeing.
All right? You see my emojis right there.
Oh, my gosh. Yeah.
OK, so so people, is this what you're seeing?

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Because this is what I see when I'm looking at the screen right
now. I see the same sets of emojis
down at the bottom and in the the screenshot.
Is that what you guys are seeing?
Does it look like that for you? I'm going to now, I'm going to
share what Jake sent me and I can see why he was bothered.
Let's just put it down. Here's what he's seeing.

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This is what I'm seeing. I think generously it looks like
celery. We could get palm branch or a
pineapple, very green pineapple.All right, the the chat is
starting to agree that they're they're seeing the same thing
I'm seeing. So Kelly Derschel said, did you

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guys see someone started the room where BYU offered Crumble
cookies for life to retain theirhead coach?
So the actual story is very similar to this.
So the CEO of Crumble is a Mormon and he's a big BYU fan.
And when the news started breaking that Penn State was
hiring Kalani Sataki, he got on Twitter or X and posted that he

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was going to pony up the funds to keep Kawani Sataki in my
crumble cookie. Provo.
Provo. Is that where it is?
Provo. Yeah.
Yeah. And And then like 3 hours later,
the news came out that, in fact,Kalani stuck.
He was staying in Provo. I did not realize I'm not

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Mormon. I did not realize I probably
should have. I knew BYU was a Mormon school,
but I did not realize how like involve the Mormon church or the
the LDS Church is with BYU. Apparently the the school board
and the AD and everybody had to go to the LDS Church leadership

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to get them to approve the contract for retaining Kalani
Sataki, according to a couple ofsports reporters.
Me, they're just making stuff up.
I had no idea what that was. The thing that was amazing tool
for this wants to know, can we offer cheese curds to keep Jeff
Haflin? That's a that's a pretty solid
idea. I did see that there were some

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Pennsylvanians who were very dismayed about this and vowing
never to purchase cookies from Crumble ever again.
I'm just over here as somebody who doesn't really care for Penn
State very much and and enjoys praying on their downfall.
I've been kind of cackling watching them swing and miss and

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swing and miss and swing and miss on all these coaching
candidates all fall. I think.
I think we're getting down to the point where they're going to
have to go with Brian Dabel, Brian Kelly like they should.
Be going after like a Matt. Campbell or somebody?

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I think. For sure, or or like or they're
going to be stuck with Terry Smith, which I can they can they
get Brahm? Well, I think Brahm is the other
name. I think Brahm Brahm from
Louisville is Jeff Brahm is the other name to really watch here.
Kind of everybody else has sort of been snapped up if they're

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not going to go after Bryan Hartline.
It's kind of like it's kind of like just that handful of guys
floating out there. I'm I just, you're, you're
running on the options. I don't think Matt Campbell's
been signed to a new contract yet with Iowa State, but maybe
they can get Kirk Ferris. I don't know.

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I don't know. But Dirstal says Matt Campbell
needs to leave Iowa State and all their failed food
inspections concessions. This sounds like a.
Juicy back story? I don't know.
Anything about tool for this yougave gave us an idea.
Send Rich Basaccia. To go be the head coach at Penn
State. Who says no?

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Who says no, Honestly. And you can take Luke.
Buck is with you, frankly. Is Dirk and like, not Iowa.
Guy Dirshel likes Iowa. Yeah.
Oh my gosh. He really, he likes Iowa and he
likes the Cubs. And there's one, there's one
more team that he likes that I think we dislike.

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Who is it? It's just the best.
It's so bad. I'm basically as neutral as you
can get on, on the Iowa Hawkeyes.
Frankly, I did, Jake, I want to tell you.
So my wife was driving home one week ago right at this time, and

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she said that she pulled up our podcast to listen to on the
drive home. And about 5 minutes in, she's
like, they're just talking aboutfootball again.
And she turned it off. I said, I said it's a football
podcast. And she's like, no, you guys
talk about nonsense a lot. And I listen whenever you talk
about nonsense. That's true.
But then when it's football, it's like too much.
Football for me. So I guess we got to do a better

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job of balancing the football and the nonsense.
And I always feel like the people are wanting us to jump
right into football. And I'm nervous that if we spend
too much time on nonsense at thebeginning that people are going
to tune out. But maybe I got this all
backwards. Maybe we need to start with the
nonsense and go nonsense for a while and then the diehards will

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stick around for the football. Yeah, that's probably true.
This is a Godzilla podcast that primarily talks football.
There it is, love that. Remind me, did we ever do the
actual Godzilla movie rankings? Nope, we did not.
Oh, yeah. Now I remind me.

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I need a couple of you. Have you seen enough of the
Godzilla movies to be able to doa Godzilla tier ranking?
I think there were two of them that I hadn't seen.
OK, that we need to. We got to make sure so that we
have our lists. Well, you know, the offseason is
coming quickly and so we're going to need to get our butts

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in gear. Maybe for some it's the
offseason. Well, I guess it depends on what
you mean by offseason. Like 'cause there's draft
season, the offseason is mid August.
Mid August is the offseason. That's dead season.
To me, that's dead season. I think like offseason is just
when football games are not being played anymore and then

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then at that point that's what US creators take over.
Though honestly, genuinely, I listen to more football podcasts
during the true offseason when there's no football games 'cause
I think the content is better. And then during the actual

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season, then people are just talking about the games.
And like, frankly, I don't need to listen to podcasts for that.
I do need to listen to podcasts for entertainment.
And so that's why I. Tend to tune into football
podcast more during the offseason.
Durish was in favor of a Godzilla tier list.

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It says he lives right down the street from.
Fujifilm. Fujifilm's in Iowa.
It doesn't sound right. I thought Fujifilm was in Japan.
What do I know? Drew says draft season is the
busiest time of the year. But it's the most wonderful time
of the year anyways. Drew says maybe Penn State
should hire Clark Lee. Jake, what say to you about

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Clark Lee? Can you just get extended?
He did just get extended to Vanderbilt.
And then today they flipped Jerry Curtis from Georgia and
Georgia Tech flipped somebody from Georgia today as well,
defensive end, I think George's.Oh.

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Come back to Penn State though here.
Here's my other thing is that you know signing day is tomorrow
and they have 5 players in theirclass and they are dead last in
the big 10 in recruiting rankings for the 2026 class.
So whoever does take that job isgoing to have like 3 weeks to

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scout 40 or 50 transfer portal players to be able to feel a
team next year. Not to mention, not to mention
we're going to see Chaz Coleman and everybody else transferring
away from Penn State in about 5 minutes.
And I think that, I think that Penn State, I think Penn State

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really thought that they were Michigan and Ohio State.
And they are finding out very much right now.
Yeah. But who wants to be that?
They are not. Who wants to be.
What's that though? They're not in Michigan right
now. They're not Michigan right now.
Michigan. Michigan's pulling beautiful

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recruiting classes like, like, and getting huge five star
commitments the day before the NCAA is set to announce all, you
know what all the sanctions are going to be for their 5th
cheating scandal in three years.Like, folks don't care because
of the logo. I care because I hate that logo.

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You. Are not a high school.
It should have a pair of binoculars on the logo from now
on. It's just I just I just like the
big yellow asterisk. Notre Dame, Iowa, all those
three at the top. Can't stand any of them would
never want to be associated withany of them.
That's just how I feel forever. You know it'd be fun.

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It'd be a fun podcast for for usto do a hate tier list the the
teams we hate the most. We did that, I know, but it was
a good time. We should do it again.
I feel like it's doing a little great thing all over there.
I mean, it's similar. I mean, I know why not.
Shiji will have a lot more SEC schools on his list than I will.

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And I will have no, I don't hateSEC schools.
I hate ESPN. I hate ESPN.
We should do a media tier list, media organizations tier list.
That's interesting. I don't think that I could do
that because I would either haveto completely.
I think I would have to recuse myself from anything Packers

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related and not make any I wouldsay more national.
Sure, sure we could do. We could do NFL and college,
just national stuff in general and like, just have a
disclaimer, like all Packers media figures and organizations

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are exempt from being featured on this list.
Yeah, that's, I think that's fair.
I was thinking maybe, maybe the exception would be like, sure,
sure. Or broadcasters or, you know, I
mean, I could like almost extensive or exclusively just
say ESPN except Dave Porta Pottihas to be on there as well.

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It'd be ESPN Dave Porta Potti, Paul Feinbaum, Ari Wasserman,
you know, just couple individuals and then ESPN tool
for the said the Onion is STR dude.

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I would rather read the Onion than ESPN.
This would be interesting, wouldbe for you to try and name an
ESPN personality who I think is beneficial to the sport.
Jordan Reed. I don't.

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I don't think I've ever listenedto Jordan Reed ever.
So there you go. I guess I need to go listen to
Jordan Reed here. Yeah, I think I can do that,
Tofa said. Caleb Caleb Presley is the best
interviewer. There is not a soul alive who is

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better at. Interviewing people than Caleb
Presley that is. Wait.
Who is this again? We did this is the can we do a
new segment sponsored by redacted?
It's that guy here when Zach Galifianakis did Between two
Ferns. So Caleb Presley has like

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surpassed between 2 burns solidly.
His show is called Sunday. Sound off I think or Sunday.
But but it's it's Sunday like anice cream sundae, not like the
day of the week. OK ESP Chris says ESPN has hot

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chick reporters. I cannot verify that.
I have no idea if that's true. That is a heck of a statement,
Hot chick reporters. OK, I have no comment on that.
I have no idea if that's true. I'm not going to investigate

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whether that's true. Yeah.
I'm not sure. I mean, frankly, I think Jake
Shabink is kind of a hot chick reporter.
How dare. You, although he's not really
reporting. He's a hot chick podcaster.
How dare you. Sunday conversation.
OK, Sunday conversation. Yeah.
Thank you too for this. Got it.
OK. Oh, I didn't know this.

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OK. I didn't even see his comment.
I was searching on YouTube. Durst wants to know why does
Jake hate Iowa? Invite me to your wedding.
We'll have a nice conversation. I'm sure about it.
That stuff that that is going tobe behind the paywall.
That's behind the paywall. We don't give that out for free

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around here. I think we don't.
We don't give that out for free.As an Ohio State fan, I think
the only Big 10 teams that I have any dislike for are
obviously the team up north first and foremost by a million,
million, million miles after them.

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I think I think you have to be irritating on the recruiting
trail. I think, I think that's kind of
the that's kind of the criteria for getting me to dislike you.
If you're in the Big 10, you gotto be irritating on the
recruiting trail. And Penn State and Notre Dame
are certainly irritating on the recruiting trail for Ohio State.

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And I will also say there's two other teams that annoy me
because of how unserious they are about football, and that's
Wisconsin and Purdue. I would kick those two teams out
of Big 10 in a heartbeat and everybody else can stay.
I don't think that they add anything to the Big 10.

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Sorry to all the Wisconsin fans,but your program is not trying.
So talk to me when Madison decides to start trying and
spending money and competing andbeating anybody and maybe, maybe
I'll hear you out at that point.But until further notice, Purdue

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and Wisconsin are the two teams that would kick out of the well,
it turns out you heard it here first.
Washington and Illinois are nobody according to this.
You heard it here first. Where?
Where did you say that? You said Wisconsin does until
you beat anybody. So by that statement, Illinois

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and Washington, you have been officially declared nobody.
Maybe try beating himself. Maybe try beating Wisconsin
then. So there you go.
Look, it's like Texas listeners out.
It's like Steve, it's like Sark and Texas crying.
About. Being left out of the playoffs
and it's like, hey, maybe don't lose to freaking Florida.
It's true. When Billy Napier is fired, they

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are not the only team in the SECwho I would absolutely be
leaving out of the playoff at this point.
Just happens. The other one's actually in
right now, but that's neither here nor there.
So the teams, I think, I think George is like basically the
lock no matter what. Like if if they lose the SEC

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championship game, they are they're a lock.
It's not them. Bama could be left out.
Yeah, I would intentionally. I think they'll be in, but there
is like a path to them being left out.
Yeah. Is Vanderbilt in?
I think Vanderbilt's a lock. They're not.
They are not. Do we have our new rankings

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right now? We yes.
I always forget that the new rankings drop.
The new rankings drop like as we're starting the show.
I do love, I, I will say I do love the, the way that the
bracket looks right now. It's super funny because
conference Champion 4 and conference Champion 5 have two

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of the spots. It's not a team in there at the
moment. Not There we go.
So there's your 25. Here's the 25, which let's see
here. Well, I would leave Ole Miss
out. They don't have the coaching
staff. I got the bracket.
It's actually not them that I would leave out here.

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I have the bracket. I think A&M is is going to be an
easy out most likely, but I'm trying to figure out who.
Who you look 8 where? Is the this this team is going
to be in? They're going to be in.
Who the heck is the bracket? Where is the bracket?

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They don't have the bracket on the I have it.
I have it, I have it 25 to 26 bracket.
Your document is ready to be loaded.
Oh, you're sharing that. OK, there we go.
I've got it, I've got it. It's.
A little. OK Oh golly.
Can you make that bigger? Probably not.
Just right click on the image and hit open a new tab and then

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switch to that tab. Let's do this.
That's a little bigger. Not much though.
Oregon and. Somebody again saying Texas Tech
conference champion 50. Here we go.
Oh, thank you. There we go.
Now I can read it. All right, Bama, Oklahoma going

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to play Ohio State. I'll take it.
I would, you know, I like that match up a lot better because
for a while that 8-9 was Oklahoma and Notre Dame.
And I think Notre Dame and you're you're Jake, you're going
to hate this take. Just plug your ears.
Just plug your ears. You're not going to like this
take other people. I'm probably going to like the

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take. Notre Dame is the third best
team in the country right now. They're playing Notre Dame
should 100% be it. Yeah, 100%.
For they are playing the third best football in the entire
country behind Ohio State and Indiana.
Texas Tech is really good. Texas Tech I would say is no

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lower than 5th for me. I I probably would put Texas
Tech in Oregon. It basically like a tie.
They have some, they have both have some flaws like they can be
got, but they're like the the clear second tier for me.

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Like he got Ohio State, Indiana and Notre Dame all in tier. 1.
And then Tech and Oregon in Tier2 and then like the top of Tier
3 for me is Georgia. But like, I would like to
apologize to Georgia by saying you should not be in about four

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weeks ago. Well, they're playing a lot
better football than they were playing four weeks for sure.
Now, their defense stinks. Their defense blows chunks, but
their offense is what means gunner Stockton is playing quite
well. Some some fireworks, which
should be fun in the playoff here.

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We'll move down. I'm not sure that I truly think
there's another team below Georgia who can who who could.
And I don't even know that I truly believe Georgia could win
the natty. But I think Georgia is like

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maybe they're like right now, Georgia's like the worst team
that I think could win the natty.
I don't think Bama could. So 1 dimensional like Oklahoma
has a fantastic defense, just amazing defense, but their
offense is horrible. If these two combined into a
team, I would feel a lot. Better but.

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Here's the problem. So so Bama's defense is bad, but
also their one game is horrible.It is.
The only phase of their game that works is the pass game.
Yeah. You could probably live on that,
but you can't live on it as wellas you could if your defense was
was good. So I feel like if Oklahoma and

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Alabama combine teams, I'd be much more interested.
What do you think would be a more fun game to see?
Ohio State. Bama for the third time in the
last decade, or Oklahoma? Ohio State.
I fear for John Mateer's pride in standing in college football.

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If Oklahoma plays Ohio State, truly, I truly fear for it.
We might be starting to get somepriority.
Free agent takes out there on the tear if he if they end up
playing Ohio State. No, that's not the team I would
leave out. It's kind of interesting.

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I would leave A&M out. That's the team I was hinting
at. Who do you think is going to?
You played? You played one team in the top
eight of your conference at the end of your standings and you
lost to him. They didn't play anybody.
Two other. You had two other teams that you
should have lost to. You didn't even you, you, the
only team you played here and beat is Notre Dame.

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You didn't even play against Bama, Georgia, Mississippi.
You didn't play against them. You even play Vanderbilt.
Who do you think is going to winthe ACC?
It's going to be Duke. Man, they're going to win it.
Man going to win. The ACC champ will have lost to
Illinois by 26. That's, that's, that's where

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we're at with the ACC. You have got to be kidding me.
Miami, you did this to yourself.Win the conference.
That sucks. It's not hard.
Win it, win the conference. That stinks.
I, I honestly think they should leave the Miami should stay in,
but they should just not the champion should just not go.

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It'd be way better off. We'd be way better.
Off, but we're stuck here now because Miami couldn't beat one
of Louisville or SMU in a football game and the Louisville
wants so much more egregious. It's terrible.
How do you lose that? How do you lose that?

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Dircia says. You guys should look at all
these Ole Miss players calling out Lane Gift on Twitter right
now. The one I want to see is is
Quinton Judkins because Lane Kiffin has gone out of his way
to crap on Quin Shawn Judkins somany times in the last year for
just transferring away from Ole Miss in the offseason.

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So then for for Lane Kiffin thento leave Ole Miss as Ole Miss is
heading off to the playoffs and then take the entire offensive
coaching staff with him. It's hypocrisy upon hypocrisy.

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Does Link Kiffin own the five most controversial team exits of
all time? Yeah.
Like is he 5 for five on them? If not, it's at least 4 for
five. Maybe.
Maybe Lincoln Riley is is up there as well.

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He just has that and not even hejust hasn't exits yet that are
awkward. That's that's why he's he's he.
He can certainly reach Lane's tear, though, if we're talking
about weird, awkward, strange exits, like just Kiffin has just
done it so many times. I I'll, I'll, I'll say it right
now. I think this is going to flop
majorly for LSU. It just has that feeling to it

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of just like, Yep, I mean, BrianKelly was a disaster for them.
They are paying by the way, by the way.
So there's a couple tweets. We we have to, we have to show
these. OK.
We have got to show these, although we're 35 minutes in and
we we're not talking about mentioned the Packers.
We're not talking about that, OK.

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LSU is currently paying three head football coaches $91
million contract to Lee Kiffin, $54 million buyout to Brian
Kelly and $17 million still to Ed Orr drawn.
Meanwhile, the library looks like this.
Holy. Moly Jeepers 2 quotes Good two

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quotes Cardell Jones You're not watching this to quote Cardell
Jones. We don't play school here.
OK, we don't play school here. Jake, describe this picture for
the audio only crowd because this is like amazing.
This is just pathetic. Honestly.

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It's a pathetic looking library.There's shelves that are empty.
The books. I mean man, this could be a 1983
library. This could be in one of those
like you're you're missing the the biggest thing in the
picture. What the purple trash?
So they have, they have 4, either four or five, I can't see
for sure. I think it's the big purple

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trash cans in the middle of the aisle.
There is a fifth one and they have plastic tarps trying to
cover the books and divert rain water from the leaking roof into
these trash cans to protect their books.
And the and like, there's hardlyany books on the shelves period.
And there's just massive gaping holes in the ceiling.

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Dershow says I can smell it fromhere.
Yeah. How about this?
How about this? The Oxford girls yoga are
dishing. Go away, Grok.

(37:21):
Don't talk to Oxford Yoga Girls are dishing.
The tea on Lane Kiffin's. Lane Kiffin's antics in class.
OK comments from Shelby when he would start doing completely
random workouts mid class and not follow the instructor from
Elizabeth. I will miss him walking in late
for class with that darn hoodie on but knowing his mat is ready

(37:44):
and waiting on him. Justin and coming in 5 minutes
late and leaving 20 minutes early.
Taylor. How many calories do you think
he'd burned? Why is he in a yoga class?
Is that what he teaches? I don't think he teaches.
Does he have to teach? Does he have to teach yoga like

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a like a high school? High school coach has to teach a
class. Yeah, not all right.
It's hard to see it. This is really hard to see this
caption up here, but I'm gonna. Yeah, it is hard to see it.
We can't hear you. Your mouth's too far away.

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My life feels when you don't have Lane Kiffin telling you he
hates your playlist every morning.
And hot yoga, I'm pretty sure iswhat that says.
You know, here's one of the like, I enjoy Lane on TV and I
enjoy Lane's Twitter feed. And then like everybody who's
ever met him is like so sick of his crap.

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From a sober hot yoga obsessed Lane Kiffin to Pete Golding, who
wouldn't ever disrespect you by turning down a.
Cold one. Ole Miss is back operating at
proper blood alcohol content levels.
Listen, I don't know if that's AI.
Don't know if we want to besmirch the name of good Pete
Golding, but that was an amazingpicture of him.

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Less than 24 hours at the landing in Baton Rouge, Lane
Kiffin was doing hot yoga with an LSU Alpha Phi.
Can I ask you something, Jake? What is the definition of hot
yoga? What is does that just mean like
you're working up a sweat doing your yoga?
It must. It must.
Hold on. I I'm looking.
OK. No, I don't want one near me.
OK, Google. No, that's not what I said.

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I just want to know what the definition is.
I I don't know if I can read. It's hot in humid.
It's hot in humid conditions. That's all it is.
Yeah. So basically you're turning up
the humidity or the heat in the room and we're doing yoga.
Those those mats have to be disgusting.
That's nasty. Jake, can I read?

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I would just comment out loud. Is that OK?
Yeah, sure. Well.
I just wanted you to look at it.And and so we have we I don't
think we have like a a rubric for what words we're allowed to
say on the podcast here or not Iowa Joe writes.
I think we should all get together.
Trevor travel to LS us campus and call Lane Kiffin a hoe to

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his face. Not a general generally not a
proponent of that word, but I think it I think it fits Lane
Kiffin just fine though. Lane Kiffin, I'm fine calling.
Out. What did Feinbaum have to say
there? Feinbaum's got to be all in
favor of this. It's just so typical of Lake
Kiffin to do something so utterly destructive.

(40:41):
Lake Kiffin trying to blame others, trying to blame the
adult in the room is so comical.Never mind Paul, fine mum hates
everything so that's why that's his.
That's his Dick. Yeah.
What's more interesting, Ole Miss or the Chicago?
Bears. I think the Bears run game is

(41:07):
probably more interesting than this, but if Lane Kiffin has 2,
let's call it nine win seasons at LSU in a row, and then an NFL
team hires him to be their head coach, what?

(41:30):
Which NFL team will be the most entertaining to you?
Vegas to see him coaching? That'd be the most entertaining.
Vegas or Miami. Oh, Miami.
Miami. So many hot yoga classes in
Miami. Probably.
I was. I was actually going to go
Cleveland. Cleveland with Lane Kiffin.

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I don't know, that might be the most sad Vegas of Miami.
I feel like Dershow's on Miami as well.
I I feel like that's yeah, oh gosh, that's what's Chicago,
though. I don't, I don't think he's
going to have an opportunity. But I'm just saying like the

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other places are on part of the key, part of the key is it needs
to be Apple, a big city. It's got to be a big city with a
major media Jets, probably The Jets.
This is interesting that we're even though from even though I'm
rooting from the Lions offensivecoordinator to the Lions

(42:33):
defensive coordinator, I'm rooting.
No, we aren't you. You did you did that.
You went for the Lions. You're the one who said Jets.
Yes, I I was I, I was going to say I'm rooting for Aaron Glenn.
But I do think if you're going to go, if you're going to make
me do a big city with the media thing, New York is certainly

(42:56):
certainly the top of that list. Doesn't have to be The Jets.
I mean, it could be the Giants. They've been as much of A
laughing stock pretty much, except for that one weird Daniel
Jones running quarter. It would be hilarious, though,
22, though, to get him back in Los Angeles.
I wouldn't Los Angeles, I wouldn't wish that on the

(43:17):
Chargers. They got enough.
They got enough going on. Hey, maybe Sean Mcvade retires
in this scenario. I mean, he rides off into the
sunset. Sean Mcvay's going to be there
in 10 years. Still easily.
It would probably be the Chargers, which is sad.
I don't want that for them. I I don't wish this upon any.

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Well, maybe Chicago or Philly. I would just.
I was not. I wish Tyler could play Call of
Duty together. Kyler's not going to be in
Arizona next year. Yeah.
Kyler gone. He gone.
Kyler's going to be in Minnesota.
Frankly, I wish you would go to Philly.
That's where I want Lane Kiffin to go.

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That's where I want him to go real bad.
So I would Adam huddle said enough flame his pass for him to
get another go with the Raiders right.
I mean, they recycled Jon GrudenMP it I mean yeah, and and they
obviously trying the 73 year oldhead coach thing making a lot
of. Interesting calls.

(44:24):
Speaking of interesting calls, Joel for the says if the Vikings
keep Quasi over Kevin O'Connell,they have failed.
There's no way they're doing that.
There's no reason to move on from Kevin O'Connell.
Kevin O'Connell is Kevin O'Connell is doing well.
And if nobody wants and if nobody wants Flores, and if
nobody wants Flores, like that'sreally nice for him to still
have Flores in the building at all times.

(44:44):
Like that's that's really nice. Yeah, Quasi, I mean, they just
wave feeling. I forgive him.
A lot of picks, a lot of picks. Swaps for field.
Yeah, they did a fourth of 4th for 1/5, right, 4th for 1/5.
Is that what they did? Yeah, it was like 5th to 4th,
7th to 5th I think is those swaps were which is like
outrageous. And and I will say as somebody

(45:07):
who was like a little concerned with Carolina doing that at the
beginning of the season, not because of the picks, but
because of like they were Bryce Young stability.
They did Bryce Young stability only in the season with only TET
and no Coker. I was kind of worried.
Shout out, Shout out, Rico. Dowdell, man.
Shout out Rico. For.

(45:29):
Who's the third guy they did they they did Deonte and
Thielen. And who's the third guy?
They did. Somebody did at Cowboys.
Who they? Flipped at the Cowboys.
Oh, oh, oh, oh. Mingo yeah, yeah, Mingo yeah,
yeah. I OK so.
Did. You like Mingo as a draft

(45:49):
prospect? No.
No, because I OK, I looked at him and like I could acknowledge
that he was a horrifically flawed prospect, but I just like
I got it all up in my feels about Mingo.
I just like once in a great while I get like emotionally

(46:11):
attached to a college football prospect and like arrogantly
feel like I can see the vision to I can fix him.
Them work. He's he's got the yeah, toxic
relationship. I can fix him.
We all have that. We all have that with certain.
Yeah, with certain usually I canavoid it, but but Mingo was one

(46:33):
of those like I talked myself into it and I can't yeah, I
can't get over the big fasts with no no technicality in the
game. We just I just can't.
I can't go there. Well, that's why I like Pickens
and you didn't even the small fasts include with Jalen Hyatt
that you're included in that bigbig dog.

(46:53):
You liked Jalen Hyatt? No.
Oh, I did not like Jalen Hyatt. No, no, I said also the usually
the small fasts with no technicality.
I'm also out on as well as the big fasts.
Try to think has Tennessee produced any good NFL wide
receivers? No in in this.
Current era, like have they, have they all been bust?

(47:14):
They've all been bust. Yeah, see, as we were talking
about midweek helmet scouting sucks, but also helmet scouting
is right more often than it's wrong.
Sure, sure. It just also sucks is the

(47:35):
problem. I think it's I think this gives
people a nice easy out to not dothe work.
Well, I think, yeah, I think that's my problem.
I think you can, if you have limited time, you can save

(47:56):
yourself some time by dismissingprocess prospects by helmet
scouting. What I think is always terrible
is like crowning a guy as good because of helmet scouting.
How's that for a? How's that for a take we should

(48:18):
definitely explore? More of that for sure.
Tool for the Sid on Wednesday. I told all my Co workers Max
Roseburg can't be worse than JJ McCarthy.
I came back yesterday and was ashamed.
I was wrong. They're all Vikings fans.
He wasn't that much worse than JJ.
I will say JJ McCarthy is really, I will say he was

(48:38):
somebody I was interested in as a potential backup for Green Bay
because I thought his name was Brosmer and not Brosmer.
Once I've learned that it was Brosmer, I am now so far out you
can't even imagine how far out that once I found out that that
was the actual last name, I'm like, yeah, no, we're we're not
doing that. Well, this is like just not
doing that. This is like when I found out

(49:01):
that Devon a chain was actually Devon a chain.
And like, that was the biggest let down of all time.
Devon a chain. What a lame name.
Devon Achane, who he's about to run through your face.
Now granted, Devon Achane will also run through your face, but.

(49:22):
But just with a. Much lamer name.
He needs APR guy to tell him howto pronounce his name.
Devon Devon, I volunteer I to let you pay me to be your PR guy
who tells you how to pronounce your name.

(49:44):
Durschel singing on music like most Clemson players.
Look, there are some positions at Clemson that are more worth
scouting than others, just put it that way.
But yeah, generally speaking, Clemson is going to be one of

(50:05):
the last schools that I will spend any effort on.
Let's see tool for this is the Vikings quarterback situation
likely forcing Jefferson out of Minnesota is poetry.
Jake. Jake, do you think that there's
any chance to let? Jefferson out of missile.
Probably not, but if somebody, if they were going to New

(50:27):
England, man, you want to re establish the evil empire, go
get them. We heard they were having some
conversations this last offseason, but like, it didn't
go any further than that. But that there were
conversations. And that's usually the first
step toward serious conversations, right?

(50:48):
You got to have conversations 1st, and then you can have
serious conversations. An example of an unserious
conversation would be Jerry Jones trying to tell us that he
offered a first round pick and Micah Parsons for Quinn and
Williams. Yeah, OK, that man.
Is that OK, Grandpa? Time to go to bed.

(51:09):
All right? We cannot compete with
entertainment value like that, like what that man brings on a
daily basis. We can't compete.
Yeah, he is in. He is in a a Yeah it, it's just
again, it's it's can he make 2 good moves in a row?

(51:32):
I can't wait to find out it it it he plays, he plays the it's
so over, we're so back card or snip, snap, snip, snap.
However you want, whatever you want to use.
He certainly does it. Tagging and trading George
Pickens this offseason would prove the point very nicely of

(51:53):
like he just can't get out of his own way, man.
Simply can't do it. Tag and trade to Buffalo.
Let's put that out there. So if that happens, we have a
clip of it. I have, I have a thing because
that would actually give the Bills a a guy in the perimeter
who's can play receiver, which they don't have that that would

(52:16):
be good. They should probably do that.
They should think about it at least give it a gander.
Give it a gander. You know, I got a clip for it.
Sorry for the repeating thing. Sorry about that.
So this is Caleb Presley. This is Caleb Presley, all
right. We're talking about Jerry Jones.
He is dressed up like someone about to serve ice cream.

(52:40):
He's about to serve you the big old scoop of deliciousness here.
Oberweis, my volumes up. The Oberweis assistant manager
is in. OK.
All right. Always tired.
Do people ask you about that a lot?
Yeah. And what's that You're always
tired of being a Cowboys fan? Is that what it is for?

(53:04):
Yeah, yeah. Well done.
I love it. I love.
It that's phenomenal. A couple recommendations, if you
want to watch some Caleb Presley, you should watch his
Tom Brady conversation, that's excellent.
Stephen A Smith, also excellent.And then honestly, Gronk, pretty

(53:31):
worth watching, I would say. Those three.
OK, those 3 tool for that says Ilove Caleb asking Halliburton
about being the halibut. He did ask him that.
I did even. Really.
Oh man. Yeah.
And Jake, do you know who GlennyBalls is?
No. Because you're about to.

(53:52):
I don't know who that is. I'm about to chat.
What do you think? Should we, should we just play
some Sunday conversation for Jake and introduce him to this,
like on the stream here? Do you want to see that or no?
Lamar, Jared, Goff, Jefferson, Joe Burrow.

(54:12):
Wow. Aaron Rodgers.
OK, there's Gronk. Yeah.
The Aaron Rodgers 1. So I it was interesting watching
the Tom Brady 1 and Aaron Rodgers ones back-to-back.
And like Brady handled it way better than Aaron did.
And I say that as somebody who hates Tom Brady and really likes
Aaron Rodgers. A tool for this.

(54:33):
Stop putting spoilers in the chat.
There's just a great balls Clinton Paul's dressed as a
lobster interviewing Winston is the best.
I think we just would it chat. Should we do this?
Should we should we play some ofthese for Jake?
I think, I think we might need to Sunday conversations and

(54:55):
mustache to your list. That's literally what this
episode's going to be. I'm going to get in my Bears
Packers pick while we're sittinghere pulling this up because
again, who knows? Oh, I already got pulled up.
Who knows? OK, who?
I already got pulled up. Guys, we may never pick this
game. Do you want to?
I mean, I mean, come on. It's the Bears come.

(55:19):
On all right. I was just going to keep going
with the bit. By the way, which bit about the
bears? It's not really Bears related.
It's it's picks related, making our picks on the on stream bit.
Anyway, what's the bit? I don't know.
Here we go. Here we go.
All right, so this is this is the Tom Brady one.

(55:40):
This is 7 minutes. I'm so happy.
Listen, we'll turn off when you get bored with it, all right?
You tell me. Oh, these aren't long.
I didn't even notice that you tell me when you're bored.
And we'll turn on the Tom Brady of announcing Tom Brady.
How are we doing? And congratulations on the new

(56:01):
gig, the Super Bowl. Pretty big deal.
Yeah. Thanks.
What advice would you give all the girlfriends and wives out
there who are also planning on talking the entire game?
You're going to talk to the entire game?
I know it's exhausting. I mean, not physically
exhausting, but I'm pretty scrambled by the time the game
ends. You might, if we do a new
segment presented by Go Puff. They come fast.

(56:24):
That's what this segment's called.
Color commentator. OK.
Amendola. Yeah.
Edelman. Yeah.
Gronkowski. Yeah, Oh my gosh, dude, what do
you want? Me to do.
Color white. What are you?
Laughing so color commentate just all right, well, Patriots
got a great line up out there when you got those three guys

(56:45):
like Gronk and Edelman and Amandola, they're white guys.
They're white guys. I don't even see that.
I just saw a bunch of. Ballers in the Super Bowl this.
Year If you had to play against the Eagles, how many
interceptions you think you would mistakenly throw Cooper to
Gene, thinking he was one of your receivers?

(57:06):
This is the greatest question ofall time.
That might be the funniest question.
That's the funniest question. Might we do a new segment
presented by Go Puff? They come fast.
That's our tag line. They asked us to say that they
got a good marketing. They come fast.

(57:28):
I've. Seen.
It I'm going to give you a scenario and I want you to do
the color commentary on how you would announce this scenario.
OK, You ready? I'm going to give it my best
shot. OK, Keep in mind it's the Super
Bowl, OK? It's the fourth quarter.
OK, There's 9 seconds left. Yeah, there's second and ten.
Yeah, they're on the opposite 49yard line.

(57:49):
OK. And the quarterback has to throw
Hail Mary and it's incomplete and they lose the Super Bowl.
Well, he doesn't have to throw aHail Mary at that point.
He could try to gain something alittle bit shorter with 9
seconds left and 2nd down, but he did.
He threw a Hail Mary. Well hopefully he can buy time
to move out of the pocket and get a crow hop in it.
He didn't. He didn't Killer.
Presley is a legend. This is so good.

(58:11):
I thought that with 9 seconds left I would try to get
something short out of bounds tomake the no the Hail Mary throw
less far. Why lying to us?
I'm not lying. I'm telling you what a smart
quarterback would do. Try to advance the ball further
down the field. He could have blurred up the.
Eagles. Yeah, it's fourth quarter.

(58:34):
Yeah, sinking in. Nine seconds left.
It's sinking in. Second in.
Oh, well, I didn't realize I wasthrowing it.
Well, in that case, I could reach the end zone.
So ball's on the Office 40. 9. I don't remember the specifics
of that. Those I try to erase from my
memory. That was you.
I know. Well, now that you bring it up,
calm, that was you. So painful for.

(58:55):
Him. Well, now I understand.
It was me. See, these are things when I
played so many games, they kind of, you know, unless I win, they
don't really stick. They just that was a mistake.
So you agree that you lost that Super Bowl for your team by not
checking the net. Is that what you're saying?
I couldn't give our Paseos a better chance to advance the
ball a little bit further so that Hail Mary could have been.

(59:17):
Dummy, you stink. You know a.
Little shorter throw 2 yard line.
Yeah, I took. Learn ball rating.
You stink, Tom. Anyways, the Raiders, you are an
owner now, which is pretty cool and congratulations.
Thanks. Yeah, it's pretty.
I agree. Thank.
You by the way, whenever we end up podcast chat, Jake and I sit
and do crap like this for half an hour afterwards.

(59:38):
You guys just stations in Oakland, not been to dinner
much. And Oakland, it's been a long
time, by the way, been in Oakland, they're in Vegas now.
But the fans, yeah, they're in Oakland.
They're they're in Oakland, they're in Los Angeles, they're
in Vegas and Vegas. You've been an owner in Las
Vegas before. The Las Vegas Aces and the WNBA
back-to-back champions. Which team would used to have

(01:00:00):
more players that play like girls?
What? What?
The Aces, obviously follow up, which team would you say has
more players that play like guys?
The Raiders, of course, Just askhim.

(01:00:20):
Let's do a change of course. Change of subject.
OK, I think. That might be, let's talk
Bitcoin. And obviously everyone knows the
past, so we're not going to get to the nitty gritty of the past.
But my question for you is, do you still believe in Bitcoin?
Yes, you do. Yeah.
Clooney, have you ever had any Bitcoin?
Yeah, we had one together. Did you share one?
What happened to that? Did you lose it?

(01:00:44):
Yeah, I lost it. How did you lose it?
It was in a company that I thinkwent bankrupt.
Yeah, it's a sad story. Yeah.
You lost all your Bitcoin off a company that went.
Yeah. Sad, I know.
Yeah, I don't. Have to pay taxes on it.
Let's move on. You did pay taxes.
I had to pay taxes on the Bitcoin we lost.
Let's move on. What are you going to do?
What? Sucks.
It wasn't too much. Let's move on.
All right, let's move. Sorry, I didn't know that.

(01:01:06):
My bad. And my bad.
I'm still looking for my wallet.I got a lot in there.
Some have to. Can't find it.
You're always talking about pliability.
Yes. Was that for the the FTX?
Did you end up having it? Did I have what?
Plausible deniability, pliability, is it not
abbreviation No, it's totally different yeah 1 refers to body

(01:01:27):
work and keep your muscles really long and elastic so they
can withstand the forces and theother one is plausible
deniability is. And Hernandez that one.
We'll cut that one OK longevity you take all the fun stuff out
of life so that you can live it forever.
Like, what's fun? What would you be referring to
that longevity? Yeah.

(01:01:49):
Like, what's the fun stuff that longevity wouldn't allow?
Chika Cheetah. What is that?
Watch alcohol. It's my favorite one.
It's it. What's it taste like?
Peanut butter, really. And it's a you put it with
anything or just on the rocks. I do on the rocks with people
with whatever they want. Chika Cheetah.
Hold on a second, I'm going to Fast forward just a second.

(01:02:12):
Do any of your former? Friends or your current.
Bronc was a big advocate. Julian was.
Wes Welker was a lot of my teammates.
Moss was. Did Bill Belichick follow TB 12?
Nah. Nah.
He's a big, like, carb guy. What about his girlfriend?
She's just as young and healthy as ever.
Sounds like it. I don't know.

(01:02:32):
I don't follow it. You know too much.
If Bill Belichick's girlfriend needed it, would you rent a car
for her? I don't want any liability.

(01:02:53):
Oh my gosh, that's really good. That's impressive.
There you go. Do you mind if we do a new
segment presented by redacted energy?
What's is it new or is it like arecurring?
It's, it's whatever I want it tobe when I bring it up.
OK. I just didn't know if this was

(01:03:15):
the recurring one because I knowwe both thought of this at the
time that it happened. Oh, you know what?
That was going to be the thumbnail for a minute.
What is going on with my camera?This is crazy.
Don't know. Do I need to?
Like it's trying to follow all of the former players and hot
yoga participants talking about Lane Kiffin.

(01:03:35):
That's what's going on with it. By the way, do you like the
thumbnail? I did settle on.
Do you recognize it? Yes, I recognize it.
JJ. Do I still have the old one?
I think I remember why you wouldthrow it back to this, but it's
fine. I I just felt like it was
apropos. I guess it was a it was a call

(01:03:58):
back. And you know how I love
callbacks, Jake? You know how I love callbacks?
Yes. It's just a little darker in the
sky. Do you know why?
Do you recognize those colors? We're doing Chicago Bears colors
this time. So this is obviously we did the

(01:04:19):
Tucker Craft one after you jinxed Tucker Craft and this is
Pack and this is Panthers colorsor eagles.
This is the Bears colors. It's an avian orange, right?
Oh, this one, that was just. No, this was that was this
wasn't anything. That was just.
This was just cool. This was just cool.
And then this is fair. I wanted this one to look
visually different so that if they pop up, I like feet next to

(01:04:39):
each other. Yeah.
I liked it. You liked it with the fiery sky?
No, no, I I like that. It's I Yes, but I like that this
one, this new one is different. I agree.
Well, that was the goal. That would.
Yeah, that would be weird. Would you rather have a fiery
sky or fire Lane Kiffin? Would I rather?

(01:05:01):
Yeah. I like both so much.
This is tough, but what if the fiery sky was because the
atmosphere was burning? Then would you rather have that
or fire Lane Kiffin? Well, I'd rather fire Lane
Kiffin. Wow, you really hate Lane
Kiffin, 2 of us said. This goes so well with the Gronk
interview. The Gronk interview is kind of
the perfect one to follow up theTom Brady one with.

(01:05:22):
I will say I miss Kraft so much,but if we can win without him,
then we are in a really good play.
Well, we we have won the game since he went out.
We have won a Game 2. We've actually won two games.
Two games, Yeah, we won two games in the whole month.

(01:05:42):
That if you can't hang your hat on that, I don't know what you
can hang your hat on. Tuolfus wants to know who do you
think steps up in the Devante Wyatt exodus?
I think you mean hiatus. No, he means the.
Hiatus. No, no, Tuolfus is saying he's
in a better place now. Like shout out, shout out.
Romeo Dobbs. Of course.
So, you know, it is what it is. Yeah.

(01:06:07):
Dershow says we won three games.That doesn't sound right.
We won the Giants since the craft.
Oh, I guess the Giants. Yeah.
Giants and lions. Oh, Vikings.
You're right. You're see, I didn't.
I knew the Vikings. Everybody forgets about the
Vikings. I knew.
No, I knew the Vikings won. I did.
I forgot about the giant game, to be honest, because that's a 2
and 11 football team. See, I didn't forget about the

(01:06:29):
giants because I I was publicly predicting that we would beat
the eagles and then lose to the giants, because that felt like
the most it felt right Packers thing of all time.
And then they didn't and they got kind of blown out by a
terrible Eagles team. And then by three court has sort

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of struggled against struggled to a a a convincing win against
the horrific Giants. And then and then but but both
teams lost to that field. the ITit's still going to be very
Green Bay. If they continue on a run here,
beat Chicago twice, beat Denver and then lose to Baltimore, that

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would be very on brand. If that happens, very, very on
brand because yeah, where where are you right now, megabit?
Yeah, but like, but also Baltimore is one of those the
kind of like unique challenges and like that's far enough away
from now. Is he is it that Lamarcus could
start playing competent football?

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Maybe is he going to get healthier because it looks off?
For. Probably a myriad of reasons.
I I think one of them being thathe is hurt, maybe not injured,
but he's hurt and it doesn't look great.
I'm not lying. I'm telling you what a smart

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quarterback would do. What's that?
What Tom Brady said. And Caleb, he's up, he said.
Why you lying to us about what he would have done through the
hell would have checked him down?
Yeah. But.
Yeah OK ATM is going to war in the comments for Luke Musgrave.

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Why says we need to throw more to Musgrave?
Why Musgrave isn't utilized properly?
I'm not sure how you utilize Musgrave properly unless it's
just to have him run go routes. Have him run go routes every
single play and never throw it to him.
Oh, call me, call me. I know how to utilize him, Jake.

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You tell him to sit himself downin that nice cold bench.
That's how that's the utilization.
Sit down, let the people who canplay play.
I think he should he should spend some time on social party,
like go go on Facebook and X andInstagram and there's a button

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on there on basically every social media platform that would
really help him. And like you could go find like
every defensive player on every social media and then block
them, Push the block button, learn to block.
Then come back all year. Maybe, maybe we'll let you block

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defenders on the football field right now.
So I was watching the Ohio StateMichigan game.
We will not let him block. And tight end Will Kasmerek put
Michigan defensive end Derek Moore on his butt.
And it was very hilarious. And I was reminded of the fact

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that the Green Bay Packers don'thave a tight end.
I mean, you know, no disrespect to Josh Wiley and George
Fitzpatrick, but it was it was nice.
Did you see the clip? Did you see?
Did I see the clip? Yeah.

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Will Kazmarek? Probably not here.
I'm going to play. I'm going to play this for you.
I found it here. I went on I went on Twitter and
I I searched Kazmeric more and Ifound it.
OK, so here's just let me go full screen.
All right, ready. Watch this all.
Right. Boom.

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That's a tight end on a defensive end right there.
That's my kind of guy playing tight end right there.
That's the player I want. Absolute Punisher.
I see. You see a lot of casuals talking
about Max Claire for Ohio State and like.
We can be a receiving toy dare in the NFL.

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It's like Will Kazmerek, of any of these guys, Will Kazmerek is
the one you want to keep an eye on 'cause he can, he can block
like a Mamma jamma. So, yeah, if you're if you're
gonna, if you're gonna, if you're gonna scout an Ohio State
tight end for the NFL, I would recommend starting with Wilk

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asmere. If you're going to do that, you
don't have to. I I will be on the train of
drafting a tight end this offseason no matter what.
I don't. Well, do you want do you want a
tight end or do you want an F? No, I don't.
I don't want FS. FS stink.
Oh, you don't? Oh, then you don't want Max
Claire. You don't want Max Claire,
correct. I don't.

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You're right. Yeah, you're absolutely right.
So. So you do want a tight end, I
want a real 1. Yeah, what about?
What about? Delp, Can I interest you in a
DELP? What do you mean Can you
interest me? Can I introduce you in a DELP?
Always just asking. Always just asking.
USC has some tight ends, do they?
No, no, Makai Levitt is not a tight end.

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For those who don't know he he blocks, but he is a receiver.
No, I I I would I I want a true a a true why with sublinear
speed, because then you can havetwo of Tucker craft perhaps.
And that, my friends, is a problem for everyone else.

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OK, you talk about being a a serious problem for everybody.
What about that interest you in a same interest you in a Colston
Loveland? Yes, always, of course.
What would you trade in draft pick compensation for Colson
Loveland? You traded 1.

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For him, 2028 one, you can have it Chicago, not that you're
going to do anything with it. You can have it all right.
It's definitely can have it presented by redacted.
Can we do this? Can we do a couple of winners
and losers from the Detroit W onThanksgiving?
So well, is it winners and losers or is it stock watch
stock up, stock down. Either way, it's it's however
you would love to take it. I think that I just want to get

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something from the Detroit game in here as we are.
So I think I think some continuity from from last week
would be nice. We did stock up, stock down.
I got I got to stock up or I gotto stock down on on one guy that
makes me sad, guy that makes me sad.

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Who makes you sad? So Anthony Belton gave up six
pressures and had a 20.4 pass blocking grade from PFF versus
Detroit. That makes me sad.
I don't, I don't know, I, I, I've been on the record a bunch

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of times as saying we don't haveany guards on the roster.
And I don't know that I like theidea of Anthony Belton as a
right guard. Like if he's going to play, I
kind of have more optimism he can get something done at right
tackle than at right guard. I'm just saying he he's got a

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long way to go to be our right guard.
There's nobody else at least at least my guy has some has some
force you could generate. You know, I need something I
can't have. I'd rather put Aaron Banks at
right guard. I'm like Aaron Banks is not
good, but I just I don't understand again, it makes me so

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frustrated the report from the preseason that or from the
offseason that he's only willingto play left guard and like just
nothing about his game says leftguard to me, Dershow says Mike
Wall said Belton played well. Well, maybe in the run game a

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lot more. I I think there's a couple
things where you can see that the footwork aren't matching the
hands. And yet I still think when you
talk about like what you want, to me at least, you want your
guards to be doing more. So in this league Now, if you
want your run game to be more multiple, you need to have big
boys like this. A Jordan Morgan at a right guard

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trying to run power stuff is just never going to cut it.
It just isn't. That's just that's just how it
is. So I would I would rather
continue to see how this is going.
I don't Chicago's another nice test for him because it's not
going to be like, you know, there aren't going to be world
beaters like Zach Allen playing defensive tackle for them, which

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is nice. And and so you got Zach Pickens.
Cool. Do they still?
I don't even think they do. I'm I'm not sure if he's still
in the NFLI know Javon Dexter iswe we can we can confirm that he
is playing football for the Bears defensive tackle.
That's all I have though. Oh, Zach Pickens is a chief.
OK, I was I was wondering I I thought I thought I remember him

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being like cut or released or waved or whatever.
It was South Carolina legend. So that's what's I think going
to be nice is hopefully if he plays, you get the footing under
you Another week playing againsta team who doesn't have the Zach
Allen's, you know, the DJ Jones's right.
That will, to me, hopefully be another nice week of reps in

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preparation for what should be abig.
Game on the 14th. Right.
So yeah, I that's, that's fair. Let's see.
I want to go here again. Do you have anyone else so your
stock down there. I'm well, I was going to let I

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was going to let you have a well, I have I have several more
to do, but I I have another one stop for my stock up JJ is it
Wix presented by redacted energyis his stock up JJ.
What do you think his stock is? My is my first player that I'm
going to bring up is it Wix? Your first player you're going

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to bring up is definitely Wix and and our our.
That's so annoying to me. This whole time I've been trying
to get the picture up and it keeps saving as an image format
then is incompatible. Here we go.

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Come on, give it to me. I, I thought about it.
I, I will say I thought about it, JJ, because again, it was
Thanksgiving doing a lot of things.
I had played football in the morning, came back, you know,
did did some stuff with, with some friends as the Packer game
was kind of starting. Watch the second-half with the
fam, then had to drive back to my place, get ready for dinner,

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make sure everything was clean for dessert.
So I didn't even really get my phone and I was thinking the
whole time and I, I sent the text to like 930, I think to JJ
or something like that on Thursday.
But but after about 10 minutes after I left, after the game
finished, I'm like, Oh my gosh, we can do.

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Is it Wix? Yes.
Did he have I screamed 2 touchdowns?
I screamed, is it Wix in my living room with my kids?
That's incredible. That's that's the stuff we like
to hear. And it was just like, oh, is it
Wix on 4th and three to steal the game?
Yes, yes, it is 2 touchdowns. I thought the first one was not
a touchdown because I didn't seethe replay very closely because

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again, I was at a friend's houseand it was kind of on the side
wasn't totally watching it. And I'm like, oh, they're going
to they're going to take that off the board for sure, right.
And they didn't. And so I'm like, OK, well, I
must be missing something that and I went back and looked at
it. Obviously the false start we can
get into about calls and all that, whatever, but Wicks making

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the tough catches look easy. What else is new, right?
He is our James Jones in that regard of this team for sure.
Maybe Dobbs is, I don't know. They they both love doing that
stuff. It's a little frustrating, but
to make to catch 2 touchdowns really nice stretch out for that
and then this 4th down. I mean come on, this is this is

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this is what we envisioned JJ, this is this is the guy is he
back perhaps can't wait to find out down the stretch like this
is things you'll have to see. I don't know if Toyota Thon's
rubbing off on wix. If so, yes, we are here for that
as well. Going on a heater down the
stretch and and not not to bringmore into this and like, but

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like Reid coming back, maybe Golden's back this week, full
strength receiver room. Let's roll.
But Wix absolutely stock up. He, he, this is who he
envisioned. As I said, this is who he
envisioned. This is what we wanted Wix to
be, A guy you could go to. A myriad of situations and, and
have him go make a play and, andthat was really, really cool to

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see. So I can't wait for more Wicks
going forward 'cause this is this is it.
He's wearing, he's wearing my all time favorite number, which
is always a, a, a major W as well.
So love seeing a guy wearing this number show out for the
Packers on Thursday. I have to segue for a second

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here. We have some misinformation in
the chat here. So a fam is this started with
some of the some people in the chat are asking us to look at
centers in this upcoming draft class.
A fam says Google will not drafta true center.
So obviously Josh Myers was thenbrought up.

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So now a fam is saying that Myers played guard at OSU and
was drafted as a swing interior.The six foot 6 center is not a
true center. Didn't know he was a college
guard. Yeah I think he only played
center his last two years at OSUso this is not true.
He only played center at Ohio State and he only played center

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at in Green Bay. No guard play for Josh Myers at
any point. I've not paid super close
attention to his tenure with TheJets.
Maybe they had him play some card at some point.
I've not seen that. But he did not play guard at
Ohio State. Maybe maybe Afam's thinking of

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of Elton because Elton misplayed.
Yeah, Elton Jenkins in 2015, he was a left tackle, right tackle,
then he was left tackle, left guard in 2016.
Then his last two seasons for for Mississippi State, we're at
center. So maybe that's who he's
thinking of as far as last two seasons.

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That could be. So there you go.
But yeah, so he said a six foot 6 center is not a true center.
I mean, Josh Meyer is 65. But either way, if if that's the
if that's the technicality you want to get well, but AFM
doesn't think that Elton is a center.

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I see or quote UN quote, a true center.
So if that's what you want to hang your hat on is that that's
not a true center. What's?
The cut off, I guess. What's the cut off?
That's a good question. That's what I want to know.
That's a good question. The other guy that maybe he's

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thinking of is Runyon cuz Runyonplayed center and guard I
believe at Michigan. I think he was their starting
center and then we draft him to be a guard and he only played
guard for us. I.
Think that's the it's. Been a couple of years since I
had to think about John, Dershowsays.
Was Monk only a center? I think he played center and

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guard in college. But like Jake and I are pretty
locked in on, we don't think Monk is big enough strong enough
to play guard at the NFL level and that if he is going to be
successful in the NFL, then his only shot to maybe doing that is
centre. And that doesn't mean we think

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he's. Going to be a good centre it.
Just means we we are out on him playing anywhere else, Apham
says. I respect your opinions.
I guess he believe centre, but Josh Myers is not a prototypical
center is what a fam is trying to say.

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So Jake just wants you to tell us what's the cut off?
What's the height wise? What is the cut off between?
That's what I and again, not well, I also want to know it's
not a combative prototypical center or true center because
earlier you said true center. Now you're saying prototypical
center. I just want to make sure we're
all on the same page so we can know because I, I am truly
interested. I'm interested too.

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What, what is the, it's not a like judgmental thing.
It's actually a curiosity thing because I, I, I do want to know.
I want to know Apham's take. I need the take on paper,
shorter and thicker. OK, but but but what Jake, other
than pullback, What, what are we?

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What are dimensions? Are we working with?
Let's get Max Bredesen here to play what what dimensions are we
working with? So I I got a question for you,
Jake, other I'm I'm taking Shaq off the board.
You can't pick Shaq. Pick another NBA player that you
would want to play tackle in theNFL.

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Another NBA player that I want to play tackle.
Dershel says the cuff is 55. Dang it.
I'm too tall to be at NFL center, Darn it.
Atham says Josh Myers couldn't bend to pick up $100 bill.

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The AFAM school of offensive line scouting is intriguing.
Yokich is probably more and more.
Yokich is probably is where I would go credit credit Tyler
Dirchell for that answer. Yeah, Yokich is a good one.

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If you're listening to the audioonly version or you're just
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can leave a comment on Spotify, Zach Randall.
But back in the day, come leave a comment.
We'll, we'll. Read it.
I just. We got it.
We got a comment this week. Jake, did you hear about this?
We got a comment. Somebody complaining about our
lo fi music again. Every time I try and play lo fi

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music on the on the live stream,we get complaints.
I wonder if we get complaints about you called it on the
conversation. You called it right.
You said, Oh yeah, we played lo fi.
We kind of chatted because someone, someone mentioned it to
us last time we did it and it was like, oh, we're probably
going to hear it, probably goingto hear it again.

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I would have. I'm just trying to decide if I
care because I really like the lo fi.
As we're talking. It's it's good vibes.
And also I lost my hater blockers.
Where's my hater blockers? I got these, but they're not
it's not my hater blockers. These are just not my cool
shades. Zion maybe.
Well, yeah, Zion's a good one because I I want to know what

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what we're talking height weightwise at center from AFAN, but
he's not giving me anything I need to know one because I want
to bring up because then I'll then I'll get you a list of of
your guys in the draft and a fanthat you can go to bat for
because they have they have the size you're looking for.
Who's the shortest center in this draft class?

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A fan here. He finally gave you less than
specific. Yeah, I don't think, you know,
there's probably not a center inthe league that's like that,
right? I don't think you're going to
find a 511 center. I Jacob.
I mean, Jacob Monk is maybe maybe Jacob Monk.
Is 6/1 or something? I don't.
Know I don't think so. All right.

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Jacob Monk's height is 6 three. Yeah, yeah, I just, I, I went
through the, I went through the list of PFF of centers who have
played enough snaps for me to be, you know, to be worth my
time. And here's what I've got.
For you, JJ. Even Post at Cleveland 66320

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Luke Wattenberg Denver 65300 Eric Mccoy's New Orleans 643 O3
Creed Humphrey 643-O2 Creed Humphrey is not good Creed
Humphrey is not good because he's 6/4 he would be good 64 so
by definition he's not good. 64310 Bordellini Ryan Kelly 643

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O 7 Tyler Lindenbaum 626-2305 sohe's not even under 6/2.
Connor McGovern in Buffalo, 65318.
Aaron Brewer is is the only guy who would fall under Apham's.

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Apham wants to know if this is ametric.
Is it a metric? You're the one who says you said
less than two. You said foot.
Yeah, he says less than 6 foot. One I got.
He wrote out foot Luke 406-6307 Jake Brendel.
Now he's griping that we're not delivering these heights in

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Frazier 63310 childhood. I demand that you go back to
this list and convert it all to 301 Ethan public like this is
this is where we're at Yalta forHolt 65310 right.
So Aaron Brewer fits Aaron Brewer best center in the league
because he's he's under 6/2. All right, Apham concedes

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defeat. He says, guess Apham is wrong.
I have no problem with you thinking smaller, right?
You know, 6, three versus 66 because of playing with better
leverage. I I have no problem thinking
that is the case. I I want to, you want to see a
guy playing with better leverage.
If you're 6/6 and you're playingwith poor leverage, that's yeah,

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we don't want that. We don't want that, right?
So but yeah, that's that's kind of where we're sitting at the
center position at the moment. Like Hanesy in Jacksonville, 643
O 6, you know, 63310. Is he going to make me go find

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this guy? So AFAM wants Scott Wells at 623
O 4. 623 O Scott Wells is Afams prototype, he says.
Derschel says 63 or higher who wrestled in high school should
be. That's pretty good standard for
all future centers. If you wrestled, you can be 65.

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If you did not wrestle, play a different position.
If you didn't wrestle, maybe youshouldn't be playing in the
trenches at all. Well.
All right, so if you want all ofyour trench players to wrestle,
I got 2 questions. Well, I'd love to know how many

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of the of the guys of the good ones.
No, just any anyone in the league.
Oh, give me anyone if you want all separated by the French
players to have wrestled. What?
What cross sport do you want every other position to play?

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Start with Start with tight ends, tight end.
What do you want them to play? Yeah.
Tight end, football, wrestling, track feels good.
The real tight. What about rugby?
The real tight ends? Well, that's works too.

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The real tight ends, not the bigreceivers.
They can do basketball. The Musgraves and the Kasikis
can do the basketball thing, while the Kittles and the Crafts
can do the roughly. You put Gesicki and Musgrave in
the same category as each other.I did.
Why? Because Musgrave shouldn't be in
that category. I probably.

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Yeah, Gesicki is leagues better than Musgrave, but that's what
he has to play. We, I talked about this before
the season started. That's where I felt like where
we were. We needed to go for it to be at
his best, right. It's just play that position.
All right, Running back, What position do you want your
running backs to play? And is it bowling because you
want your running backs to become a bowling ball?

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No, but I like where your head'sat.
I like golf. No, no, I think the running
backs should be, oh, dodge ball,dodge ball, Dodge ball's good.
Running back, boxing bad. Badminton.
Badminton. Got to be quick out there,
pickleball, got to be quick on your hockey.
Got to change direction, right? Pickleball's up there, Batman

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for changing directions, sure. What about dance?
I, you know, you're running backto to do dance.
That's not bad. I thought about that for the
tackles as well. Honestly, I honestly thought
about it. Football, basketball, dance for
the tackles. It's already in the weight.
Do they need to be, do they needto be throwing the shot put?
Do the the tackles need to be doing that?

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They're probably already in the weight room enough anyway.
And I don't feel like the shot put is like something.
What's that? Absolutely.
What's that kind of dance where like your feet are planted like
wide and it's like all in the hips and you do this like way
back and forth with your arms. You know what I'm talking about?
Like that's the thing. The things that the the blow up

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things do at car places. Is that what we're talking
about? That's exactly what I don't want
to tackle to be maybe, maybe linebackers.
Maybe you want your linebacker to be doing that.
Maybe linebackers. Linebackers should be in rugby,
probably right bocce ball for corners.

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Linebackers should be rugby. What?
Well, I mean, linebackers and tight ends are really, it's
really the same position. What sport is like all about
confidence, do you think? Oh, definitely dance, dance.
OK, so that's where the corner should be.
Because every time they pick offa ball in the end zone, their
confidence is off the charts that they should be taking it
out of the end zone as far back as they possibly can.

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Like they they need that like darts for sumo.
That's good. Here's a linebacker should be
doing rugby, though. This right here.
Do lots of sports. Hold on.
I'm going to make my case for why dance.
I got to take this off the screen.

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That's why it's not me. It is.
I'm going to make the case for why dance mosh pits.
Here you go. So many good options.
Also, if Chris is still watching, I have your question
about centers in the draft start.
We'll get to that, I promise. This is what we're doing.
Yeah, this is the one. Should I mute this?

(01:34:58):
Is this going to get us demonetized?
Probably. I'm kidding.
I'm kidding. We're not monetized.
Oh, you're going to do. It.
I probably shouldn't mute it though.
Anyways, what do you think? Should I mute it?
Probably I'm going to mute it sowe don't get demonetized.
But this is we'll just let this play the background.
You can you should think about like your your your receivers

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and your running backs and your cornerbacks should all be doing
dancers because of this. I hope this is long snapper is
axe throwing. That's interesting.
I like that. What?
OK, so you think about, you know, about a, a biathlon where
it's skiing and shooting. So that's really kind of what

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long snapper is because you got to shoot and then you got to
hurry up and then you got to getdown there.
That's an OK, I'm going to be, I'm scouting that.
I'm scouting that this winter we're going to find, we're going
to find the next, which long snapper is cross trained with a
biathlon and who's good at the biathlon?
Who's good at it, Who's winning?I'm going to ask.
I I would, I'd be, I'd be all over.

(01:36:00):
I'd be like, all right, hey, youknow, we got to get to build.
We got to see right? Like I, I want, I, I want, you
know, get you to the combine. Let's, let's get all the
measurables. Let's do all that.
If you're, if you're willing to buy Athlon by a lot, we got to
bring you over. Follow up, which position does a
triathlon benefit? So the triathlon is swimming,

(01:36:25):
biking and then run. And I asked that as someone who
has done several triathlons and was not drafted to the NFL.
I've also done marathons. If I can, if I can bounce it.
There's no, there's no benefit to marathons.

(01:36:45):
It's just an endurance thing. You should already have that.
Yeah, if you if you don't have endurance, then you can be a
wide receiver, right? I mean, wide receivers always
coming off the field. You know who never comes off the

(01:37:06):
field? The corners and the safeties
never come off the field. And the wide receivers that
they're defending come off the field like every other play.
It's like, you know what? The corners are running just as
fast as the wide receivers, but they're running backwards.
Should we abolish receivers? We should abolish wimpy

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receivers. If you can't play all 60 snaps
two of us as a head coaching is politics.
No no, that's that's certainly true That's owner owner.
That's owner or in Jerry Jones case, you are all the above
politician, head coach and GM and owner.

(01:37:50):
Yeah, I would love. I, I want like Jerry Jones final
year. Yeah, I guess that's awkward.
Final year before what? Before he retires from being an
owner? I don't know.
His final, his final year with the Cowboys.
He needs to also be the head coach.

(01:38:13):
I need to hear him come out and say, fine, I'll do it myself and
put the gauntlet on and then go out there and coach his own team
and then win a Super Bowl and retire.
And then we're all left going. What just happened?
That that is what the NFL needs.Oh, this is amazing tool for

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this. Jerry Jones is Admiral General
Aladeen. I really love Sasha Baron Cohen
and I really wanted to like thatmovie.
And that was like the beginning of the end for Sasha Baron
Cohen, in my opinion. Since since we since we brought
this up, since someone brought it up, I we got a big Giants

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kicker. The.
Did you see this moment of the day?
Yeah. Do you have the clip?
You have the clip. Yeah.
Just OK. So to me, like all the people
for this to happen to Yongwei Ku, if if you golf, you
understand this was there intentthere was he trying to kick it
or did he did he pull back for practice swing?
He pretend that he he played it off as a practice swing for all

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the golf. No, that's real.
That's real. I don't know.
Is there intent? Is there intent?
Is there intent? Did he but this wasn't a
practice. This wasn't a practice kick
because this went down to the sack.
This it went down as a sack. I will say JJII imagine this
does not resonate with J JS, butdoes it will resonate with the
golfers because there's always ajoke about intent.

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So I do feel like J JS nodded onthe inside joke on this one.
As somebody who's never golfed in my life, no, that's probably
the golfing jokes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
See, there we go. I love that the ball was moving.
There is is this like Lucy on the peanuts there?
The ball was moving. I do agree it it.

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Well, he bonked the ball with his knee.
There is like see, wait, wait, wait, wait.
That's a definite but it it did it did it did settle down by the
time he was going to be kicking it.
So like this was you you there. There is a level to baseball
like you haven't seen this before.
But there's also just I mean football.

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Have you seen this before? Last week we were talking about
Florida State, punt goes off, guy's helmet recovered by the
punter, then they muff the next punt on top of it.
Like just things you would neversee.
And then this. I've never seen this.
We may never see it again. I got one I've never seen.

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He tried to dig in and it just, you know, when you play on firm
turf, that's what happens right there.
You go to the driving range and you go on one of the mats where
it, you know, the mat is, you know, reactive to where you're
striking the ground. This can happen.

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I have seen this happen at a driving range.
Have you ever seen a player headbutt?
Oh, somehow I removed you. Wasn't trying to.
No, no. You see a player head butt a
referee, period, let alone head butt referee and then not get
ejected. Yeah, this is, I can't believe

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this. This is why they let the
Jeremiah Smith touchdown stand. For those complaining about it,
it's because they didn't kick this guy out for head butting an
official where there are times where you pretty much brush an
official or kind of push him outof the way out of the way, and
people have gotten ejected for that.
This is a literal headbutt when guys get flagged for this all

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the time and you've done it to aguy not wearing a helmet.
Like, what are we doing? How you not getting tossed with
this? Did you hear what Sharon Moore,
the Michigan head coach, said about this incident?
No, because his word means nothing to me.
Here's what he said. He means nothing to me.
I don't have the exact quote. I was trying to pull it up and

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it's of course not getting it for me.
But he here it is. Here's the quote, he said.
An official grabbed him and he reacted.
He shouldn't have reacted, but the official grabbed him with
two hands. That's what head coach was at,

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Answered when he was asked hashtag never mind why what?
What he thought about Jayshawn Barham head butting A ref.
An official grabbed him and he reacted.
He shouldn't have reacted but the official grabbed him with
two hands. Reminds me of reminds me of the
excuses they made for why they cheated.

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Yep. Quoth the Sharon Nevermore.
How many years do you hope they keep Sharon?
More at Infinity. Infinity.
Let me ask you this follow up question.
About Ann Arbor. Do you think Bryce Underwood

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will be good next year because he was a true freshman this year
and he threw for 63 yards against Ohio State on Saturday
and he has 9 touchdowns this season and dog water.
Michigan State has two quarterbacks this year with more

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than 9. Touchdowns.
Yes. Aiden.
Child so, so somewhere do you think that he will be good,
Bryce Underwater will be good in2026?
I don't know what good means necessarily.
I don't know what we're what we're qualifying that to be.
I think he'll be better. OK, Well, let me ask you this.

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Was he was he good in 2025? Thumbs up or thumbs down?
Was he good? Was he a good quarterback in
2025? No.
OK. So in 2026, do you think you'll
be thumbs up, good quarterback or thumbs down not a good
quarterback in 2026? I'll go good.
OK. What about the hire of Pat

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Fitzgerald at Michigan State? Do you like the hire or do you
hate the hire? Indifferent for the most part.
Well, set aside that you don't care about Michigan State.
Pretend that you were a MichiganState fan.
I don't know. I wanted to.
Would you give this a stock up or a stock down?

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No. This is the Detroit W This is
those. Stock up.
Stock down. Sure.
It's cool. Good job, Bishop.
Say there's no way you're keeping Nick Marsh.
OK. That's all I got for for the
Fitzgerald hiring. There's no way Marsh is staying

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there. Videoed.
OK, so that was. Did you see this presented by
Redacted Energy? Let's go to stock up.
Stock down. I had some other things we could
we could do for this as well. Do you have another stock up,
stock down, JJ from this one then before we get to Chicago,
Hopefully before. Yeah.
I, I I let you have I let you have Wix because I knew you

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really wanted that. How kind?
But I had I had kind of a stock.Up on Josh Wiley.
And this is this is oh, colored heavily by the state of that
tight end room. I think he's probably the best

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tight end that we have right now.
And I thought that he had a a pretty nice day as a pass
blocker. PFF really did not like his run
blocking. I thought that he had a couple
really nice blocks. There was there was a long run

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that was that was sprung becausehe had a nice block and I
appreciated that. But he he stayed back in Pass
Pro a couple times and I thoughthe was really solid in that
regard. You know, like.
What? What do we actually have in John
Fitzpatrick? Keep calling him George
Fitzpatrick, but like what do wereally have in in John

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Fitzpatrick? I don't know that we have a ton
and we have nothing in big Musgrave.
So you know, some stock up on Josh Wiley, I guess.
Yeah, I like it defensively. Defensively, I'll go maybe some
stock down on Carrington, Valentine thought he had a real

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bummer of a day. It was kind of frustrating
because we just don't have anybody else.
And so like, I'm not going to call for Carrington to be
benched, but like, it just hurt seeing like easily our best
corner be so bad. And I think that I have, maybe I

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shouldn't say this, but I'm going to, I think I have
readjusted what I'm asking of this season for the Packers,
largely colored by the injuries that we've sustained with Tucker

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Craft and Elton Jenkins and now Devonte Wyatt, less so Elton
Jenkins, because Shawn Ryan has been really good.
I probably would say stock up onShawn Ryan.
He's been honestly pretty fantastic as a Center for us so
far. Like grading on a curve for like
where center play has been for the Packers for five years now.

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But I think that all I'm asking for at this point is like, we
have three more division games. I I want to go to a no against
the Bears and then let's just let's just close this out with
one more win over this crappy Vikings team, go 6 and O against
the division. I think I'm content with that.
I don't I don't think that I personally am asking for

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anything else from this Packers team, which is kind of a
travesty given like what we gaveup for Michael Parsons that like
clearly this was a kind of SuperBowl or bust year.
But at the by the same token, when you don't do anything to
assemble a competent cornerback room, I can't emotionally get

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there with like Super Bowl or bust.
And like, at no point this season have I been there.
You know, I with, I have, I, I said pretty early on in the
season, I think after Week 2, I said the Packers have no
business not winning the NFC North.
But I don't, I don't think, correct me if I'm wrong.

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Has there been a point this season where I was talking about
winning the Super Bowl this year?
I don't think I've been there asit's mostly been because of the
cornerback play. And I think it's, it's like it's
like all year it's been the cornerback play and the interior
offensive line and interior defensive line.
And I think now that we're in December, I'm still at the same

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spot with all three of those. And I think we're, I think we
have figured out a formula to get enough production out of the
offensive line to, to get the job done, but they are
unreliable. And so, you know, you're, I

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think we're in a situation where, you know, I don't believe
in the cornerbacks. I don't believe in the defensive
tackle room outside of having Devante Wyatt in that mix.
And so at that point you are kind of leaning on your offense
to be consistent. It has to be consistent and I

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don't think I trust our offensive line to keep us
consistent. Maybe we go through the rest of
this regular season and have only one more bad game on
offense down the stretch here. I think that feels like a
plausible path, But then, you know, maybe Game 2 or game three

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in the playoffs. Do do we think that the
offensive line is going to hold up that long?
I just haven't seen it from thisgroup.
I haven't seen it. I don't think either guard spot
is remotely OK. And it's like, hey, Congrats on
accidentally figuring out centerby sticking Sean Ryan there.

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Congrats on that working. But you still don't have any
guards. And so when like Rashid is up
and down and the guards are consistently bad and Sean Ryan
has been playing consistent since we gave him the starting
center job. But like we also have a big body
of work from his career that we if he starts falling off at some

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point, who's going to be surprised?
Who's going to be like, wow, Sean Ryan of all people being
inconsistent, didn't see that coming.
So I just, I just don't know that I can emotionally get there
of thinking that this is a SuperBowl caliber team when I feel
like so much is riding on the offensive line staying

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consistent and I just don't knowthat I can get there.
Teams are going to be able to run it on us without Devante, no
question about it. The the pressure from the
interior is going to be, it's going to need to be
manufactured. It's going to be heavily scheme
reliant from here on out. It's going to put extra stress

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on the linebackers and the safeties.
And if you don't have any good corners, let alone 2 good
corners, I love Jeff Hathaway. He he's going to work some
miracles. But this defense is going to
frustrate us at times from here on out with Devante Wyatt being
out. And like we've already lived
through Devante being out once this season and saw how they

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tried to address it. They got to do a lot better the
second time around. Yeah, it it really doesn't help
who they're playing the next fewweeks either with this Devante
wide injury. Did you like watching the

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Carolina Panthers carve a bar defensive line?
Because get ready for the bears.Yeah, the one thing they do
well, this is the problem. Yeah, Chicago walked in and just
dismantled Philly's front from start to finish.
And granted Philly. That's a problem.

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That's a problem. Philly is not good at what?
Football. OK, anyway, so the Bears run
game. Philly is not a good football
team right now. They're so they're not defense,
bad offense, 32nd, 30th in the league, 25th success rates, all

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that good stuff. They've they've been the Rams
are very good. I think the Seahawks are good.
I do think the Lions are good. They they certainly have some
holes and weaknesses, no question about it.

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And like I think Dan Campbell's been a downgrade at play caller
for them on on the offense. Not that John Morton was doing a
good job, but I think that they've been worse since he
started calling the plays. I think they can they can
improve and I think they have the pieces.
That's still a a very scary roster.

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Also, the Patriots are. Good patriots are good.
Texans are getting hot. Yeah, they don't scare me.
Their quarterback doesn't scare me.
Their old line doesn't scare me.Their defense is pretty scary.
Yeah, it's fine. You can run on them.

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Well, if we make it to the SuperBowl and the Texans are there
two 240 LB ad rushers ATM, says Rams are overrated a little.
Well, listen, somebody has to be.
You can say that nobody's like historically good, but somebody
has to be good compared to the NFL this year.
The Rams are certainly good compared to the NFL this year.

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Here are team tiers through 13 weeks.
Rams, Seahawks, Patriots. I don't believe in the Bills.
I see the Bills are up there. I don't believe in the Bills.
I would get ready for Bills, Chiefs, AFC championship part,
whatever. Well, the AFC blows chunks.

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The Patriots. Do you think you think the
Patriots are not going to make it to the title game?
I do, yeah. I don't think they're What in
your opinion? So like, they're they're,
they're overall like running is kind of their Achilles heel,
both on offense and defense. But pass defense and passing

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offense, the Patriots have been pretty elite.
Do you believe that their passing offense is actually good
and good enough for the playoffs, or do you think it's
going to crumble when the lightsare bright?
I don't know if it's going to crumble, but I don't think it'll
be as good it's been all year. The Patriots are unfortunately
kind of in a similar boat to Chicago right now just based on

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how the schedule worked out for them.
Where it's. Yeah, you, it's a schedule that
you had the 4th pick in the draft, so, you know, they
they've played Buffalo nice. That's good.
Good to see. Glad you've done that.
They've gotten a lot better, right.
So those early season losses, it's really hard to, you know,

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kind of bring that up at this point.
I don't I don't think they're that team trying to figure
things out early in the season. JJ, do you remember who they've
lost to this year? The Patriots?
Yeah. One of their wins was
embarrassing. One of their wins, was it the
Dolphins? Their losses, Yeah.
Losses, losses, losses. So that's what I was trying to

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say. What about losses when it was
embarrassing? Not Miami.
They have two losses. The Tennessee.
No, who was I? I don't know who it was.
So week one, week one, they hosted the Raiders and lost 20
to 13, believe it or not. And then week 3, they lost 2114
at home to the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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So those are their two losses. They were one and two.
They have 110 in a row. They're a better team than they
were back then. The Steelers are such a weird
and inconsistent team, though. Like the the Steelers can do
that to you. They can.
They did. They kept napping.
Yep. They did to the Colts.
They tried to do it to the Bills, but that their offense
didn't do anything and they can't stop the run.

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Yeah, Yeah. The Patriots to me, I don't
know. So you're out on the Patriots in
on the Bills. That's interesting to me.
Yeah. Yeah, I think so.
That's interesting to me. I'm I'm not there.
I'm not there. I that's fair.
I'm not saying that like again, I, I think the AFC is, is
absolutely terrible this year just just compared to past
years. The Broncos are unfortunately, I

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think, awaiting their one and done on divisional weekend as
well, which is unfortunate. You know, their defense is
awesome. It's really fun to watch them
play. But I, I, they they to be feel
like the team that pretty much everybody has a good feel for
how it's going to go for them inthe playoffs.
And they're probably going to beright.

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Well, I I completely understand the case you're making, but you
are forgetting the rest of the AFC is terrible as well.
Yeah, that's why I'm going with the tried and true.
There's got to be an AFC championship.
I don't think I don't, I don't trust the Bills at all.
I think Chiefs, Patriots, Chiefs, Patriots, depending on

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how the seeding takes out, Chiefs, Patriots in the title
game, absolutely believe that that could happen.
That would be a good time. That'd be fun.
And did you see the two teams see that EPA chart of what, what
Mahomes is doing on those super long drop backs on the long the
season? Yeah, it's outrageous.

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Oh, related to like every what, what, what they have on the big
chart, it was like everyone in the last 15 years or something.
So everyone in the every in the last 15 years are negative EPA.
Yeah, he is, is like .14 positive .14 EPA.
That's nuts. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah. So and then the guy was like the
the worst negative EPA in that time span.

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It's got to be either Darnold orDanny Dimes.
I don't know which of those two it is, but it's got to be one of
those two. Has to be, yeah, yeah.
It's going to be hard to unseat the Rams, unfortunately.
I think Rams Chiefs Super Bowl rematch or a Rams Patriot, Rams

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Patriots Super Bowl rematch. Yeah, we could run it back.
Could happen. I think I think the I think the
Seahawks are real. The Seahawks are real.
Yeah. Rams Chiefs Super Bowl like that

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has been in the making for a very waiting for that one.
We've been waiting for that. It's it's I think that if we had
gotten Rams Chiefs Super Bowl in2018, which is what everybody
want because nobody wanted Rams Patriots, not a single soul.
If we got Rams Chiefs Super Bowlin 2018, I think that the

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football gods are appeased and the Chiefs are just a good team
after that and they are not thissupremely lucky team that we
have seen since then. I think there's no jinxing and
it's just like, oh, the Chiefs are really solid.
Pat Mahomes. Really elite chiefs are great

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and, and they're like they're always in the mix.
They're always. A good team.
But like, nobody has to just hate the Chiefs.
You don't have to all have all the luck, all the luck factors.
I think that that's like. Maybe pretty much.
Indisputable in my mind that that because, because of the

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well and and it was the Patriots, all right, It it's the
Patriots doing that to the Chiefs that then ripped away
their juju and bestowed it upon the Chiefs.
And now we can't shake the chief's juju.

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And I don't mean Juju Smith's juju, right?
Who's the other Chief's Juju? Yes.
It's interesting to me to see three NFC North teams in that
upper right quadrant. Well, kind of.
So essentially we're working with kind of Rams, right in this

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thing with like Colts and Packers are in it.
And then we got Chief spills Patriots on this line here in
this tier, Seattle, Detroit, I guess Kansas City's kind of in
this one and maybe Denver's trying to sneak in and this this
second one here. And then you have Dallas,
Houston Charger, Shags, Philly Bears, Niners, right, all in

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this one coming across. I'll tell you, I think I believe
kind of the almost the hall of slightly less than mid, which is
super hilarious that the AFC North has nobody on this side of
the of the line. Well, yeah, the the AFC North
quite either, but the AFC, you just listen to some crappy

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divisions and like I I can see with my eyeballs where the
Bears, Lions and Packers are. But given a a binary choice
between the NFC North combines for zero playoff wins again this
year or an NFC North team is in the NFC Championship game, I

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think I would take no NFC North wins in the playoffs.
I think it's A and I, I do see what the chart says, the West, I
see what the chart says, but I, I think the NFC North is closer
to bad than they are to say elite.

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There's just there's just not a lot of good wins in the NFC
North. Like they're they're they are
beaten up on some bad teams. And then like the the Lions and
Packers are both very inconsistent and both dealing
with a lot of injuries. And you look at the Lions, who I
still think are the best team inthe NFC North despite going O
1-2 against the Packers. But like their offensive line

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has been a real problem to the point where for anybody who
doesn't know, they tried to bring Frank Ragnar out of
retirement this week and then hefailed his physical.
And so that's not happening. So there's not help coming for
Detroit. I so so I, I think I would be
significantly closer to the NFC North combined for zero playoff

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wins, assuming that they get twoor three teams into the
playoffs. And I think, I think the Packers
and the Lions are both going to be in the in the playoffs, I
guess. I guess I think Chicago has it
in them to miss Detroit. Detroit's got an uphill battle
right now. They better win.

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They better win Thursday. It would be really interesting
if the Bears were in, Lions werenot.
That would be very interesting. I think it's possible that we
see that. I still think I still feel very
confident that the hackers are going to win the NFC North.
I'm pretty I'm pretty confident in that.
I I would say above 50% confidence that the Packers win

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the NFC North. So ESPN playoff predictors are
really good way to kind of go through the rest of them to see
how you think it might all pan out.
But obviously Detroit has five more games on the schedule,
right? And they got Cowboys and Rams
back-to-back here. Can you can you put this on the
screen so we can look at it together the the schedule?

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Don't you don't you have the playoff predictor?
Oh, I can pull it up. We want to go through that.
I thought you were reading that off to us.
Can you put the playoff predictor on the screen?
I said the lions schedule up here.
We. Go I can do this OK.
So can we pick some let for for just the NFC North?

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Can we pick some games here? Yeah, sure.
So give me, give me the Packers going to and O against the
Bears, OK? And then give me some of the
other nonsense while you're whatyou're thinking.
Sure. Where's this?
Yeah. Sure.

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Tie will be so funny. Tie will be so funny.
You think Chiefs over Texans is a lock right now?
Like, like, don't bother playingthat game.
Yep, Don't bother showing up. You see, you're not winning.
Give me charges over Eagles. Charges over Eagles.
Eagles are not good right now. I really want to, but I don't
think so. I really want to guys.

(02:07:13):
I really want to do that. You forgot that that football
teams need to have a defense. Do they though?
Can't you win this game? 5550?
Good. If any two teams would do it, it
would be those two teams becauseneither of them have a
respectable defense. Give me for Lions Cowboys.

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Yeah, this is the one I would like some Lions Cowboys is so
interesting because I like the Cowboys offense better.
I like the Lions defense better,but also the Cowboys defense is
playing. I don't know.
Yeah, I don't know if I like theLions defense better.
Give me. I can't imagine they're not

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going to play man. I can't imagine they're not
going to play man Coverage And like sorry to say, the other
thing is that the the lions havea lions have a a bit of a
Cowboys complex and I know they won their most recent game
against Dallas, but lion the lions are still all in their
feels about Dallas. They they need this game, by the

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way, and you'll see what they certainly do.
Go go back to week 13. Now let's look at week 13.
Is this we already? Yeah, I was just curious about
something. OK, now let's look at week 15.
So hold on, Indy or Jacksonvillethis week?
Anyone have a handle how we feeling?
My recollection is that Jacksonville kind of has Andy's

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number, but like Indy's good andJacksonville isn't so that's OK.
You going Indy? Give me Indy.
Give me Indy. Even though, even though
Jacksonville's probably winning that game, give me Indy because.
All right, Yeah, Good teams overbad teams.
Yeah, we roll on. OK, Give me the.
Broncos over the Packers here. OK, got it.

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They do this. They do this all the time.
Panther will lose the Saints. That's who they are this year.
All right, Rams are going to smash the Lions this time.
That's those two teams play all the time now.
Did you notice that? Well, yeah, they're first place
finishers. No, I'm just saying like it
like, yeah, less, less like 3 years.
Like ever since the trade they played 'cause they keep meeting

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the playoffs too. Is the other thing.
OK, This Vikings Packer or Vikings Cowboys game is kind of
interesting because this is the kind of game Vikings Cowboys
where it could be like 5550. You think that and you're you're

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just, you're just. Yeah.
But it wouldn't be like, it wouldn't be Jason McCarthy.
It would be like they signed somebody off the street like
Blake Bortles or somebody and just shred for one week.
Can I, can I make an amendment here?
Yeah. For this game, the Jags will win
this game against Indy and then they're going to lose The Jets
next week, the week after that. That's what's going to happen.

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I believe that. Yeah.
I believe that the Colts, I mean, I'm this it sucks for the
Colts, JJ. They play the Jags twice.
They got Houston again. They have Seattle and San
Francisco. That's what they have.
No weeks off. No weeks off.
They got Seattle here. You're going to they're going to
beat Seattle. Well, again, I still think the I

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still, I still think the Colts are fake good.
Earlier on the season I was saying that the Colts and
Seahawks were both fake good. But I think that we have enough
body of evidence to see that although the Seahawks have some
gaping flaws, as I said last week, they only have one gear.

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They can't power it down and wina close low scoring game because
they're just going to go whole hog for four quarters.
So give me give me the Seahawks here, Patriots over Bills

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because again, I think the Billsstink.
I can't remember. What's the recent history in
Ravens, Bengals? Well, the Bengals obviously just
won. The Ravens won two close games
last year where they scored 30 some plus.
I think the Bengals scored like Bengals.
Bengals scored 80 points, I think, and lost both games last

(02:11:36):
year. Give me the Bengals to just be
annoying as heck in the AFC North right now.
So the Ravens, Steelers. Yeah.
So the Steelers are six and seven right now.
Yeah. OK, Steelers in Miami.
Feels like they'll. Probably take care of Miami.
Philly beats the Raiders. Houston will definitely beat the
Cardinals. So we got three more here, JJ,

(02:11:57):
that I think are going to be well.
So I'm I'm I'm thinking about Chargers, Chiefs, OK, the
Chargers. So Browns, Bears and Vikings,
Cowboys to wrap up this week. The Chargers won the most recent
match up. That was in September.
That was in LA. This is back when the Chiefs
were really struggling. Brazil.

(02:12:19):
I was in Brazil. That's right.
Yeah, Prior to that, the Chiefs had won how many games in a row?
Tell me 8. It was seven.
Yeah, it was seven. The first.
The first. The first game in that winning
streak was overtime. Oh, the Kelsey play in LA, The

(02:12:41):
Kelsey 428. Yeah. 2021.
Yep. The Kelsey play over the middle.
He just. Yeah.
Outran everyone. Yep.
So give me, give me the, give methe chiefs.
In this one I think. I think this knocks No, it does
not knock the Chargers out. We are still they're still.
How the heck they are ahead of Jacksonville?

(02:13:01):
This is interesting. Are they still ahead of
Jacksonville? That's weird.
OK, Bears, Browns. We like the Bears.
Bears staying with it here or they lose.
Give me the give me the Browns here.
I may have. I may override.
You and come back to that one. Dallas.
We like Dallas over Minnesota. We think Minnesota's I For me,

(02:13:28):
it kind of depends on if JJ McCarthy's playing, I think I'll
go. He's probably playing Dallas.
OK, well, it's definitely Dallasthen.
All right, I'm switching that. OK, Jet is still asking us
about. Center prospects, we're going to
have to. Do I promise center thing after
this? We'll do a center thing after
this for sure. And we'll pick the.
All right, so week, Week 16. You got a feel for Eagles

(02:13:52):
Commanders? No, but Jaden should be playing,
I bet. Give me a tie in that game.
OK. I'm going to I'm going to look
like Dallas. Dallas one game savant.
No, they'll be tied if they win this week.
Who are they playing? The Chargers.
We got to do this one. Chargers, Cowboys now another

(02:14:13):
tie, another tie. No, we're not doing 2 ties for
team we got. There.
It's not 2 ties for for a team, It's two ties for a week.
Dallas would have two ties. Yeah, Lions over Steelers.
I think that's that's almost certainly a lock there.

(02:14:34):
Oh, look at this. I don't care.
Sure. Yeah, Cardinals will beat
Atlanta. They stink.
Cardinals aren't good either, though.
This is a big one. This is a big one.
Give me the Panthers to just be absurdly.
Annoying in that game. In the division now, yeah,

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that's like worst case scenario for everybody.
Including Panthers fans, yeah. Giant Vikings.
To me, that feels like a game that the Vikings.
It's at New York. You've I've you've been
overridden. No, you want that.
All right, let's do that. What is that?
The Giants? Drew says Dallas Overchargers.

(02:15:16):
It's in Dallas and Chargers always fade.
Plus, Herbert is going into surgery.
Yeah, on his left hand. He already had it.
He's playing this week, too. Yeah, he's playing probably
still give me. I don't know.
That's going to be a fun game towatch, though.
Chargers, Cowboys. That'll be fun.
Yeah. As will 49ers, Colts.

(02:15:38):
That's the game I'm not going towatch, but the people who do
watch it will have a lot of fun with.
That I might be going to that. Are you potentially well,
another tie? No, I'm not doing more ties.
We got to pick. Let's, let's, let's go.
Dallas here just 'cause I think,I think I'm gonna let you pick
all the rest of the ones for this week.
I don't think, I don't see any others that I feel the need to
pick. Bills will beat the Browns.

(02:16:02):
This feels like in the Battle ofLake Erie.
OK, Ram. Seahawks is big.
Yeah. I'm not interested.
Rams at. Seahawks So Rams Seahawks head
to It's been honestly pretty heavily skewed in Los Angeles

(02:16:31):
favor, except that they played this past January at Rams and
the Seahawks won by 5 and that was with Gino.

(02:16:52):
So I think give me the give me the Rams in that one.
Wait, where was this game at? Oh, this game's at in Seattle.
It's a Thursday night game, I'm pretty sure.
Oh, Thursday night. Oh, it's.
The worst? Pretty sure, although if any two
teams could make it interesting on Thursday night, it would
certainly be these two. Maybe give me, I might go

(02:17:15):
Seattle for that one because it's Thursday night and it's
weird and it's at CenturyLink orLubin or whatever it's called
now. Yes, that is a.
Thursday night game, just doublechecking.
Yeah, give me give me Seattle onthat one.
But that puts them back to the one seed.
So weird seeing the Detroit I believe is Detroit is the 9 seed

(02:17:39):
at the moment. Detroit's the nine seed.
They are the nine seed. All right, so let's see what we
can do in the week 17 here. OK.
Are we good? Week 17, Pick them all.
Yeah. OK.
Week 17, give me the 49ers. What is this?
OK, that puts Philly back in. Look at that.

(02:18:02):
Only one NFC North team in the playoffs.
Yep, this is true. And it wasn't that hard to get
here. Give me the Bills over the
Eagles. OK.
That puts the Bears back in. I hate it.

(02:18:22):
Look at that, Saints, at Titans.That's that's not like sickos
committee disgusting good yes itis.
Steelers are going to win at Cleveland.
They so would this this this this so would happen.

(02:18:46):
Yeah, commanders commanders do this.
They're going to do that and then Lions to beat the Vikings
because the Vikings are terrible.
Still one game back. OK, what's the Broncos?
Chiefs. I think they Houston beats the
Chargers, I'm pretty sure. Oh, did we?

(02:19:08):
So the Broncos are actually on A2 game-winning streak against
the chiefs. Give me the Broncos with one
more win here. Make it three in a row.
OK, 14 and 2 Denver Broncos. Lookout.
I'm telling you, if we had Denver, Seattle as the Super
Bowl, it would be disgusting. Part 2.

(02:19:33):
So this one's at Indy. We gave it to Jackson the last
time. Give it to Indy this time.
No, we gave it to Indy. Oh, so give it to Indy this
time. Give it to Indy again.
OK, now this is at Indianapolis,so maybe Jacksonville.
It's just supremely annoying here.

(02:19:55):
Give me Jacksonville. Jacksonville's kind of had
indie's number. Houston's in the one, Houston's
in the division lead. We have look at this, look at
look at what this does the AFC SRotunda.
It's a it's a lazy so interesting moving around, but
they all hate indie the most so.We got that, we got that, we got

(02:20:17):
that, we got that. So we only what they would do is
Packers, Ravens give me and thatone.
There we go. Ravens coming to Lambeau Field.
What time is that game? Dude, let me look this up.
Ravens, Packers TBD. It's a TBD right now.
So that's gonna be a prime time game then.
And the Packers don't lose primetime games at home to teams that

(02:20:41):
aren't super teams. So Packers are smashing the
Ravens. It'll be a fun game.
I'm going to try something. I wonder if this can work.
Week 18. Can't wait to find out.
All right, give me the line. Oh, they need these two clowns
to tie. That's what they need.
No, it won't work anyway. OK, Bengals almost came back.

(02:21:02):
Almost came back. 8:00 and 9:00.They didn't get it done.
They need some help. Lions at tie won't Bears in Week
18. Lions at Bears in Week 18.
That feels like such a. Bears win, unfortunately.
That meets. So I I will say I know for a
fact if you give Detroit this win, they're in OK, that was

(02:21:23):
wrong. That was wrong because we've
liked Dallas a lot down the stretch.
Dallas is just playing. They're playing some.
Good ball, right? Now, if they lose the Giants, I
think Detroit's in. Yeah, the Giants are maybe just
exactly the race or or if Philly, I believe if yeah,
Philly loses to Washington. So they'll need one of those

(02:21:45):
teams to lose. Well, you just made.
Oh, yeah. So either Philly or Dallas would
have to lose for Detroit to be in.
Otherwise, I think both of them.Yeah.
In Week 18, I feel like Ravens are going to win at Pittsburgh.
OK, that puts Bengals are probably the set.
Yeah, they passed Pittsburgh then.

(02:22:06):
Hey, fam says Seattle's going tobe tough at Seattle.
Oh, for the playoffs. Yeah, I think Carolina.
Is covering up. There you go.
What's that? Think Carolina beats Tampa Bay
again? No.
No. OK, Tampa wins the division.

(02:22:28):
Give me the the Rams to beat theCardinals.
OK, The Broncos to beat the Chargers.
Drew wants to know if we really think Denver's going 14 and two.
No, we're going 15 and 2:15 and 2:00.
Their their schedule is just lousy.
Like, they just don't play a lotof good teams.
Jacksonville Division, they're in.
They beat Jacksonville, Kansas City in Green Bay.

(02:22:51):
Yeah. Like, it's it's it's the
Chargers and the Chiefs standingin their way and nobody else.
They play a crappy schedule in acrappy.
Conference. New England might sit, people.
They're not going anywhere here.They can't catch Denver.
Yeah. And of all the teams like, Miami
is the one to go win. Try hard.
Yeah. What's their finish?

(02:23:12):
Six and eleven. Yeah, they'll probably need
that. Oh, Jacksonville.
Would you lose out on a playoff chance because of this?
Maybe. Let me see what their head to
head is. Actually.
Actually, actually, they won't. This is going to be interesting
because the Chiefs get in. If something happens that I know

(02:23:33):
what happened, I know what the scenario is.
So the Jaguars have been owning Tennessee for six of the last
seven games. I think the Chiefs are getting
in here. Give me, give me the Jags, OK?
What about Indy Houston? This is probably for the

(02:23:54):
division. Well.
So the Texans are on a four-gamewin streak.
They have won four. They've won five of the last six
games. And prior to that they tied in

(02:24:16):
2022, No ties. So where's the game at?
Is at Houston. Yeah, I think that I think the
Texans defend their turf OK, here they come.
It'll be so interesting for herethey come.
That'll be just demoralizing forthe Colts reputation in they

(02:24:37):
come to fall apart like that andthey're going to open at New
England. I think this.
Oh, so we so in this. Yeah, this scenario is either
way, get it happened. In this scenario, we can't get a
Patriots Chiefs No title game. Also, no matter what happens,
the Chiefs are in. Well, what if they tie?

(02:24:58):
They tie. Yeah, they're not going to what
if they tie? They're going to do that
Chargers Raiders thing. Maybe.
Yeah, Let's see. Let's see.
Let's what happens gentlemen's. Oh, no, they'll.
Well, yeah, they'll both be in then for sure.
Look, that means Jacksonville wins the division.
That's not happening. So yeah, but we don't have to.
But unless they gentlemen's agree on it, it would be funny.

(02:25:20):
Give me a tie for that game. I think they will.
No, I cannot. I think they will.
I'm not giving you a tie. You've already used up your
ties. You've used up your ties.
I'm the tie man. Yeah.
Too much. There's one these games.
Who cares about this? Don't care.
Don't care. No.
This game matters. San Francisco, Seattle will

(02:25:44):
matter. I believe Seattle's gonna win
that the Niners don't have. So if the Niners win this, hold
them off. Does this move?
Yes, it does. It does give the Rams the one
seed back. I thought so.
So what's the what Seattle givesSeattle to win?
Seattle wins, then it'll Rams will say the five.

(02:26:05):
So this is the thing. It doesn't benefit the Niners at
all. And the Niners hate the Rams
more than they hate the Seahawks.
They're not going to be very wild in that game.
OK, you want to talk about an absolute elite slate of games in
the NFC to start this sucker, atleast for ATV ratings deal.

(02:26:26):
Eagles, Green Bay. I give me Green Bay to win that
game. Actually, San Francisco, Dallas,
heck yes, man, they are going tobe salivating over that.
This will be interesting. So you'll I haven't noticed this
until recently because some people are doing it because I've
always used that one. That's like its own site, but
it's runs a lot of runs a lot ofmemory on that.

(02:26:48):
This is nice. Yeah, ESPN, this is a pretty
good one. The only thing that they don't
do is you can't pick the playoffgames from here, but.
OK. Hold on a second.
So I it's I think if this is thebracket, we can do this.
I think you get Packers, Cowboys, Rams win, win the wild

(02:27:08):
card week. So then that means Dallas at
Rams go to Seattle and Dallas atGreen Bay.
Oh my gosh, The Packers are going to be an energy
championship game. This is incredible.
Yeah, this is incredible. So the Rams go to Rams, go to
Seattle. Then for Part 3, the Packers are

(02:27:29):
gonna host NFC champions. You say Packers hosting Rams and
losing to the Rams, probably. That's tough.
Oh, my gosh, who are those? But, but hold on, hold on a
second. I know the Rams are elite.
I know that. And I I know what I said.
That's that's really good. A fam.
That's a good one. This is a good one.
So this Jake, listen, I understand.

(02:27:49):
That's not surprising. I understand the Rams are elites
and I understand the reservations that I have Packers
and the Packers have a rappy cornerbacks and they're taking
on the Rams passing attack. But give me Matt Lafleur versus
Sean McVeigh. He has.
He has been in Sean Mcveigh's brain.

(02:28:12):
We get a rematch of 2020. Here's the thing though.
So look, screenshot this bracketlike this is the bracket that we
need. If we don't get this bracket,
I'm out on Packers Super Bowl. Can't say it needs to be in.
I agree. Give me this bracket and we're
in the Super Bowl. Give me any other bracket and

(02:28:33):
we're this is not happening. OK, I'm going to send you one.
I'll, I'll, I'll put one together tonight and I'll send
you one for sure where the scenario is absolutely not
happening, but just 'cause I think it's good to.
I'll go through it a few times where you go through and make
the picks for the games that youthink are going to happen
because you hated some of my picks and let me keep them in

(02:28:54):
there. Pull the ties.
Oh, hold on a second. I just realized we didn't pick
all the games for week 18. Is there anything that has to
impact? Yeah, Nope.
So that doesn't change anything.I screenshotted.
We didn't pick the Green Bay win.
That's funny. Whoops, that's fine.
Did we pick the? I can't see.

(02:29:15):
Did we pick the we did pick the Saints.
Are there any other missing games in here?
Nope. Top right that you can't see
Venmo is Houston over Indy. So yeah, we're good now, but it
doesn't change anything. So that does make it again we
what we think would be Dallas atGreen Bay.
But it I mean, I think the biggest problem with this, if

(02:29:35):
Dallas, here's the biggest problem with San Francisco,
right, You're getting, I'll tellyou how we blow up this perfect
bracket swap the result of the week 18 Lions Bears game and
that blows up the whole bracket.Oh, but I don't hate that
either, though. Hold on a second.
No, there's nothing, nothing really that doesn't blow it up
at all. No, it does not blow it.

(02:29:58):
Up dude, give me a. 3 Fer against the Bears The Bears
finally make it back to the playoffs.
After all this time, they have to go to Lambeau.
They lose for a third time this season against the Packers.
And then the Packers go on to play in the Super Bowl against
let's game out the AFC bracket here.
Hold on. Let me.
Let me. So you got a interesting
Jacksonville, Houston. Jacksonville.

(02:30:22):
Houston. Yeah.
We already know what's going to happen there.
You think you think Houston's winning that one?
Of course, I don't want them to.I'd love to win.
Nah, Buffalo's got Baltimore's number.
They winning. But here's the thing, though,
like I, we all kind of want to see another Chiefs.
We want to see another Chiefs, Ravens match up in the playoffs.

(02:30:43):
So how do we make that happen? So Buffalo's going to smash
Baltimore, Houston's going to smash Jacksonville.
And who you got, Kansas City or New England?
I think I'm taking Kansas City because of Mahomes versus May
and just like, who's been there before?
Yeah. And so then it sets up I think 2

(02:31:04):
really interesting Denver KC, Drew's with us here.
It's so Drew's with Drew's on the same page here with the
picks. It's like, OK, Denver KC, it's
Denver KC. And then Buffalo has to go back
to their House of horrors in Houston where they've lost their
last two times down there one time.
So who is between Denver and Kansas City then?
I mean, if I'm going by principle here, I said Denver

(02:31:28):
and New England were not were one and done's in the post
seasons. So then you got a Kansas City
Houston AFC title game and everybody's looking at us and
they're like great, another giftwrapped Super Bowl berth for
Kansas City. So let's give New England the
win. Let's see how this works out.
So then it's Houston at New England and Buffalo at Denver.
If the if the Patriots win, right, I don't Houston at

(02:31:53):
Denver's beaten Buffalo. Then I think we'll get, I think
we'll get Buffalo, New England part, part threat.
This is how the Patriots are wonand done.
I think the Patriots, if they can get by Kansas City, I don't
think they're going to fear anything.
They will not fear Houston. They should not fear Houston.
Nobody should fear Buffalo, except for the Ravens.

(02:32:14):
And. Jaguars, the Ravens will not
beat them. I called it, I said this about
two weeks ago where I said Buffalo's it's going to be 50
Buffalo at 4C Baltimore and the Demons are going to be back from
Baltimore's house again. Tough for them, tough for them.
So it's going to be a Patriots, Packers, Super Bowl.
So this would be the Super Bowl 31 rematch, right?

(02:32:35):
I'm in hell. Yeah.
What a weird though. I think turn of events here.
I would I would have the five seeds matching up, I think in
this scenario here. OK, let me let me give you let
me give you a five seed scenario, though.
Five seed versus 5 seed in the Super Bowl for me here.
That's where I'm that's where I'm going.

(02:32:56):
That's where I'll go see, Because you think that the Rams
are going to go to Green Bay andwin Rams.
Buffalo give me Rams of Buffalo.Buffalo is not going to Super
Bowl. That's not Buffalo.
Rams, yes, but they I think, I think, I think, well, it's going
to be 5 versus 7, right? So the Buffalo, Houston and

(02:33:16):
Kansas City are going to win. Kansas City beats Denver,
Buffalo goes into Houston, conquers the House of horrors,
and then Buffalo will beat Kansas City in the AFC
championship game. They will finally get over the
hump, but unfortunately, keep dreaming man.
You're hitching your you're hitching your wagon to the wrong
horse. Buffalo is not taking the
promised land. Agree.

(02:33:37):
Disagree. Even in a terrible AFC, Buffalo
is still stumbling. OK.
So listen, we have one more thing we have to do before we
can wrap it up and get out of here.
And it's not what you're thinking.
It's actually the centers in theNFL draft.

(02:33:57):
Oh, oh gosh, the mustache tier list.
What do you want? Centers or the mustache tier
list? We can do both.
We got it. Let's do this.
So all the football people who don't want to do this, if we
don't do the mustache tier list,what's the name of this episode
going to be? Because we didn't actually talk
about Devante Wyatt being replaced.
Because here's the thing. Here's the thing, the answer is
he can't replace them. It's Colby Wooden and good luck.

(02:34:21):
Hope Warren Brinson or Nazir Stackhouse is finally ready at
the end of the year. 2 Georgia guys to replace 1 Georgia guy we
got Matt Lafleur said basically I think it was today, right?
It was yesterday basically said like, gosh, I wish that hey, you
don't you dare steal my shtick. I've been Mr. bringing Christian
Wilkins all year. Don't you dare steal.

(02:34:42):
Got to be quicker than that. You're going to be hearing from
my lawyer. I've got to be quicker, quicker.
I've been talking about this since since the day we traded
for Micah Parsons. Well, got to be quick, you
content thief. Got to be quicker.
Today's show it seems Drew says Buffalo losing home pill
advantage is a big deal. You know what it's a bigger deal
is them not having a good enoughroster.

(02:35:05):
That's a bigger deal. This will be fun to come back to
stack houses, long arms. That's what we call them.
Snag house. The house is.
Stacked with his arms. The house is stacked, but Matt
Lafleur yesterday or today said basically like, wish we had Carl

(02:35:26):
Brooks back. So he kind of tip in his hand
there that he thinks maybe the answer is Kobe Wooden and Carl
Brooks. So was that the 22 classes they
were both then or was that 2122?That's 2222.
So you got your 2022 fourth and fifth round defensive leaning on
them boys. The end of year 3/4.

(02:35:50):
I mean, look, year three, that'swhen you're supposed to be
leaning on your draft classes inyear 3.
That's well, it's 4/4 for 2022 now it's a wooden Brooks Anig
Barre Ryan's playing centre sheets at left tackle.
Roshan wants to make a big place.
I mean, 2020 two classes, year 4, they're being leaned on.

(02:36:12):
Robo Dobbs. Dobbs is still being leaned on
like that's and I mean maybe 23 with with Reed coming back and
be able to lean a bit more on him, right?
And that's you would hope so. And what really sucks JJ is the
news that LVN was in a boot again this week after shocker,
shocker. Jji know, you think this is a

(02:36:33):
shocker that he came back potentially just too early and
tried to play against Minnesota when that was just super
unnecessary and it might have cost him the rest of the regular
season, which is really, really stupid.
Well, and I think that's why metLafleur didn't even mention him
as the Devante Wyatt replacementbecause he would be the obvious
pick to replace Devante. But he's been hurt the entire

(02:36:57):
freaking year. This was supposed to be breakout
year for him. Maybe the Packers just wrapped
year 4 breakouts, JJ. That's what we're we're getting
that here. You know, Jordan Love broke out
at the end of 2023. He was a 2020 draft pick.
I mean, yeah, what are we I whatcan we say?
You know, what can we say Quay Walker's played well.

(02:37:22):
This is also 2022 draft pick at times you're for downhill Mike
player. Maybe not the coverage guy you
wanted perhaps, but feel like there's a lot been put more on
his plate. You know, maybe it's Brinson.
Maybe it is Brinson. Drew let's do the center thing.

(02:37:42):
Although I I would Joe asked a question.
I don't know if he's I won't be the corresponding moves to bring
Reed Oliver and Lloyd to the actor Roger Lloyd's not coming
back to the actor. I was going to the actually is
that a real thing JJ? So you jumped me on the joke.
Is that a real thing Because thecorresponding moves are they
released Lloyd will Shepherd andthey're putting Devante Wyatt on

(02:38:04):
IR. So there's Reed and Oliver.
No more moves needed right. That's here's a move release.
Marshawn Lloyd let him go be on IR for the Eagles.
Breaking news. Breaking news.
OK, just just just came across my desk.
Aaron Rodgers had his receivers,tight ends of running backs to

(02:38:26):
his house tonight to watch film and go over plays.
Feels like something probably should have been done this
summer if he was there early enough.
Ben Skoronic brought a decoratedcake and the player saying happy
birthday to Rodgers, who turns 42 today.
Good for the Steelers finally trying to watch film as a team.

(02:38:47):
Big, big if true. Big if true.
They have a chance. I mean, they have a chance.
Done, retired, what, Right. Four years ago.
They have a chance to understandthey took Pickett.
That was a mistake. We already do that.
I don't know why they did that. That was hilarious.
They shouldn't have. Is that the same draft class
that Pickett, Iowa State dude was in?
Oh, Purdy. Yeah.

(02:39:09):
Purdy. That was the same draft class.
Yeah. But is Purdy as good?
Is Purdy as good in Pittsburgh with the nonsense they pull out
there that he is with Shanahan? I feel like the answer's no.
I don't know, Like, who else besides Jimmy G, Mac Jones and
Brock Purdy have we seen be goodwith Shanahan?

(02:39:31):
Like, name a name a fourth quarterback.
Matt Ryan won the MVP with Shanahan.
No, no, no, no. I mean, I mean in in.
San Francisco, OH in. San Francisco.
Well, three and a what? What's how long?
Because here's the thing, you can't.
Here's the thing. You can't give Matt Ryan to Kyle
Shanahan because I've given him to Matt Lafleur for years.
So you can't also give him to Kyle Shanahan.

(02:39:53):
I can. You just.
You just can't. Not on my podcast.
You can't watch. I'll do this.
I'll do this. I'll do this.
See, it is because I can. I can remove you from stage.
So that's why it is. Yeah.
I mean, you notice, you notice we don't have Iowa players
committing penalties as our background.
It's the team up north. He just turned off his camera.

(02:40:16):
He's going to the bathroom. He's muted and turned off his
camera. He's he's either going to bed or
going to the bathroom. Adam Huddle says.
The rando who has the most yardsin first four games of career,
can't remember his name. Was that Maria?

(02:40:40):
Maria Bell for me. Who was that?
Was that not Brock Purdy? I thought that was Brock Purdy,
but like Trey Lance was a disaster.
Utter a disaster. Listen, we were going to do
centers in the draft and then Jake left.

(02:41:02):
So I don't know if we're going to do that.
Don't know if we're doing that one.
I don't know if Jake is going tothe bathroom or if he's trying
to make a point. So AFM says Nick Mullen.
Is it really Nick Mullen? Nick Mullen is that.
He's that backup who inspires nobody and then has like a way

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too high winning. Percentage I.
Think Jake's trying to make a point.
All right. So how was the, how was your
bathroom break? Did you get a, did you get a
redacted energy? I, I should have grabbed an
energy on my way back from it, but I did not because I knew we
had to get the centers rolling here.

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And so I pulled that up. Well, here's, I mean, do we want
to do we want to hold this centers thing hostage for a
Venmo donation? Do we want to do that?
No, I think that's for the mock trap, by the way, by the way, by
the way, by the way. But it could be a mock draft.
This is the thing this could. Be a mock.
Draft, as we often say around here.
Where is it? Is it not here?

(02:42:11):
Is it Wix? What about bodlerized?
We say that often around here. Sorry, here we go.
I can take your time. I can.
I can get rid of the end of season picks, which apparently
still shows even though you've edited the banner already.

(02:42:33):
What did I edit? I didn't edit anything.
No, no, no. So I, I, I rest of season picks
was on there. This this does this, this has
done this during like every draft show I've done where you
edit the banner right and you save it.
And yet when you present, put iton the screen, it still has the
old one there and you have to take it off and on again to have

(02:42:54):
an updated one. Oh, interesting.
I've never noticed that. Yeah, If you, I think it works
if you flip to a different banner to come back on.
But if it's the most recently used one, it will show up.
I'm cracking up. I'm looking at all of our
banners that we have saved, and there's like six in a row that
say, presented by redacted energy at the end while we're
pulling this up. JJ, is there anybody you want to

(02:43:15):
stick a fork in a bit? Presented by redacted energy.
Yeah. The the Bears at 9:00 and 3:00.
We are sticking to fork and the Bears.
I hope so. They beat a bad Eagles team.
They have a negative point differential.
Well, they did. They did again.

(02:43:36):
Thanks Philly year completely useless all year.
Philly. Remind me, did the did the Lions
beat Philly or lose to them? I know they played them super
close. They lost.
So as I have said a few times, you may recall the Rams, I think
the NFC North is pretty mid thisyear.

(02:43:59):
At at best you could say high ceiling, but very erratic,
right. I like at best you could say
high ceiling but inconsistent. So there's a nine and three team
that's plus 6IN point differential.
That's hard because because the Eagles were completely

(02:44:27):
incompetent. So to me this is like this is
like Texas crying about losing to Ohio State.
Like why do we play Ohio State? It's like, no, you're not being
left out of Florida because you lost to Florida, lost to Ohio

(02:44:47):
State. You're being left out of the
playoffs because you lost to Florida and then you got blown
out by Georgia. You.
So this is hold on. I I I got to point this out
right, right. So again, I know better team.
They played early in the season,right?
Totally understand that. OK, Ohio State.
Texas went to Ohio State, went to the Shoe.

(02:45:09):
Bama lost to Florida State earlyin the season and it did not let
them affect them, OK? Yeah, it didn't affect them.
They beat Vanderbilt, they beat Tennessee, they beat Georgia.
They wanted to run. So I don't want to hear it from
Texas. I don't want to hear it.
BYU is not getting in either. BYU is losing Texas Tech in the
title game. They're not getting in either.

(02:45:30):
Vanderbilt's getting in over Texas.
Regret to inform the folks who want Texas in.
Vanderbilt's getting in over them.
I actually, I'm feeling inspirednow.
I have a couple more. I have a couple more.
You want to stick a fork in someother things?
I do. Yeah.
Here's one. The team up north.

(02:45:54):
Have fun in the freaking Pop Tarts Bowl.
The losers. No, I hope they don't get that.
That's way too fun. They should not get that the the
Duke's male bowl. Duke's male bowl.
Wait, what's the lamest bowl is USC is USCUSC has a head to head
over came N Oh yeah. So they're going to be in the
citrus then, right? They'll be in the citrus.

(02:46:16):
What's the lamest, stupidest bowl there is?
You can't say Rose Bowl. You find out he hates the Rose
bowl Is the mowers one again? Bad boy mowers something Bowl.
What is it? What's the bowl?
Hold on, hold on. I know this is oh, the

(02:46:38):
pinstripe, bad boy Morris pinstripe.
Go play up in in Yankee Stadium.Well, Penn State's going there,
though. They're going to bad boy Morris
Pinstripe. Yeah, Dang it.
Hold on, hold on. Let's see, we have the we have

(02:46:59):
the Salute to Veterans Bowl, theLA Bowl, the Myrtle Beach Bowl.
Oh gosh, send it to the Myrtle Beach Bowl.
Wait, where's Illinois going? Oh, rely quest.
Tennessee sick. They played Tennessee tonight in
basketball, too. They got Michigan going to the

(02:47:20):
citrus right now over USC. That's stupid.
That doesn't make any sense. They have AUSC as a head to
head. They have the same record and
USC as a head to CN. Then the why is your C going to
the Alamo Bowl, the best Big 10 team that's not in the playoff.
What's happening here? How much did Michigan pay to get

(02:47:42):
the Citrus Bowl? Oh yeah, Iowa, Utah.
Yeah, the Las Vegas projection right now I got.
Here's the one that T Mcgorthy used to go to Texas, should go
to Texas. Famous Idaho Potato Bowl in
Boise at Albertson Stadium. Famous Idaho Potato.
Bowl. Gosh, it's not a a more poetic

(02:48:06):
place to send it. Penn State right now is
projected to go to the game above Sports Bowl.
I don't know what the heck that is, but they're never heard of
that. The projection is them against
Ohio. Ohio's going to smash them.
Ohio's good Bobcats are good. Minnesota's projected to the
pinstripe against Georgia Tech. That could be kind of fun.

(02:48:26):
Northwestern, What's the Slater you want?
I'm I'm looking at Wikipedia andit has none of these interesting
names that you're saying. I'm looking at CB, S S.
Projections right now. Yeah, I don't, I don't see any
of those interesting names. I see the Birmingham.
Bowl. The Holiday Bowl.

(02:48:51):
The holiday, a classic 68 Ventures bowl.
There you go. Yes, the Cure Bowl.
The Cure Bowl in Orlando. See, here's the thing.
I don't want to send them anywhere that's also like a fun
vacation spot. You're right, I want to send
them. This is why the Famous Idaho

(02:49:12):
Potato Bowl is perfect. Send them to Boise all.
Right in Washington. Like Boise.
Nice place to live. New Mexico.
Don't want a vacation there. New Mexico Bowl.
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Albuquerque at University Stadium.
Yep. Have fun.

(02:49:33):
Yeah. Losers.
All right, Stick a fork in them.They should make them go play.
Navy. Stick a fork in them.
Penn State. OK, they're going to hire Jeff
Brohm, probably. They're going to hire Brian
Kelly and they're going to like it.
You go from James Franklin to Brian Kelly, and then Brian

(02:49:55):
Kelly has to find 40 to 50 transfer.
You guys got 4040 to 50 transferportal players in three weeks to
field a team in 2026. Stick a fork in them.
They're done. Brian Kelly.
Here's the thing. Brian Kelly's going to make more
money sitting on his couch than he will go on.
Yeah, why would he do that? Yeah.

(02:50:16):
So he he probably they're not getting brain for as much as he
stinks and is terrible and I don't I think he's he's probably
smart enough to know why would Igo do this?
I see the situation brewing up there.
Why would I go there at this point, Right.
He has so so 11 more not be giving up one more mega deals,

(02:50:36):
you know, stick a fork in them Ole Miss shame too.
It's a shame too because I was having, you know, you can get a
2 for one deal. Stick a fork in them, Ole Miss
and LSU. 2 for one deal can. I stick a fork in A&M.
No, A&M is going to squeak in the playoffs undeservingly, but
they'll be in there. So you have to wait until the

(02:50:57):
top half of the conference. I'm upset.
You have to wait until they losetheir OK, their playoff game.
Can I stick a fork in someone? Then I'm going to stick a fork
in someone. Can I stick A4?
Is it Jeff Brown? Because Adam Hubble agrees with
you that he's going to Penn State and so you could stick a
fork in Jeff Brown. Can I stick a fork in Clemson?
Could we be done? Could we be super done, please?

(02:51:19):
They're not firing Dabo. No, he's not going anywhere.
He's going to be there. I'm going to say exactly 3 more
years. Yeah.
I'm sick of, I'm sick of fork inClemson.
Who's in the can I who's in the playoffs?
Can I cosign on that? Because I wanted to say, of
course, big fat. I told you.
So. That's tough.
Yeah, I've been a I've been a big time mega hater of Kate

(02:51:44):
Klubnik and Clemson for 365 days.
It feels really good to watch them crumble.
Always. You know who else I was out on?
Texas, I said. I said Texas was losing too much
talent to the NFL. What if they get in that?

(02:52:05):
What did what did Stark say? He said there's a way, there's
college football, there is a wayfor it to work.
He said there, I think he said an embarrassment to college
football. I mean, there is a way for it to
have, right? There is a way in, Sure, sure.
And the way is our freaking sport lives in a committee room.
Well, the way. The committee.

(02:52:25):
Well, yeah, the committee can burn, no question.
So I'm never going to. Here's how.
Here's how. Here's how this can go.
Right. Obviously they got BYU at 11
right now in the rankings. They lose at Texas Tech.
They're not in. That's it.
We'll be seeing you, right? Bama loses at Georgia, Texas
Tech. Texas Tech is, you know,
terrifying right now. No, I right.

(02:52:47):
Yeah, they yeah, right on same page.
BYU is losing to them, right? That's right.
Yes, yeah, yes. And, and, and and this, this
will spawn some interesting conversations because of the
huge deal that Kalani Sotaki just signed.
Even though I think we're all onthe same page.
Kalani Sotaki, very good coach, but timing of it, I think he'd

(02:53:10):
be on their very next game. Yeah.
Matters. So they lose.
It's just going to it's it's this game matters a ton for all
it's going to do is give us somegreat memes.
Yeah. For sure.
If Bama loses to Georgia convincingly, I feel like
they're out If Bama loses to Georgia convincingly.

(02:53:33):
They're out. But Bama might beat Georgia and
Georgia's in no matter. Well, of course, but this is the
way. This is the way in for Texas,
right? We're talking about both.
But they both suck. They both suck the weigh in.
I know the weigh in for Texas isBama loses convincingly, Georgia
runs away and there are three lost team because of a commerce

(02:53:54):
championship. You know who's better than it's
Bama and Texas is BYUBYU is better than Bama and Texas.
Yes they are. I'm so out on a QB wearing 47
you I can't you couldn't even believe it.
I will never be in on them when they're that.
I'm fine with that being your argument.

(02:54:14):
My argument. Holds up Williamson.
Do you hear my you hear my cats fighting next to me?
Are they better than Arizona? BYU.
My cats? Yeah.
No. Are we sure?
I'm not sure. Is BYU better than Arizona?
Yeah. It doesn't matter because
Arizona's not in the playoffs, because they are not.
I feel like they are not owned by ESPN.

(02:54:36):
I'd rather I'd rather have USC if the Big 12 was owned by ESPN.
Arizona will be in. If I, I'd rather have USC in the
playoffs than BYU personally. ESUSC is genuinely good.
Yeah. USC is UT, right?
Right. That's why I'd rather have them
because they're a good team. Adam Hill says BYU coasted a

(02:54:59):
booty. Big 12 schedule.
Are you calling the Big 12 bootyor let me see here.
BYU schedule. Let's see who they played.
BYU. This would be so much easier if
Miami was just in their freakingCommerce championship.
So they had their non conferenceslate, they had Portland State,
East Carolina and Stanford, all right, So once they got in the

(02:55:24):
conference game play, that's crazy that they played Stanford
should be a conference game for them.
They played Colorado, who stinksthis year, West Virginia, who is
not terrible, Arizona, who's good, Utah, who's good, Iowa
State, who is unranked but stilla tough opponent.

(02:55:48):
And and that game was at Iowa State.
They lost to Texas Tech. They played TCU, who's bad this
year. They played Cincinnati, who I
think is good this year but doesn't have a fantastic record.
They played UCF, who's good and now they play Texas Tech again.

(02:56:09):
That's not a bad schedule. What are you talking about?
Do you say? You're talking about that's not
bad schedule, UCF is good. I was thinking USF.
Oh, UCF is not good. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't. I would not put BYU in unless

(02:56:29):
forced to do so. Unless forced to do so, I would
not put them in. Do we make them the ACC champ?
Why not Stanford? Stanford and SMU are allowed to
be the ACC champ, so why not BYUACC champ?

(02:56:50):
Then I'm good then. Then I'm good with it.
But Miami's so dumb and they ruin this.
They're so dumb. They're so dumb.
They're so stupid. Just beat Louisville, you fools.
You absolute fools. Maybe I'll.
Yeah. No, I'm sick of fork in Miami.
I'll sick of fork in Miami for fun.

(02:57:12):
I think Miami beat Louisville dummies.
Miami is good, but they are not deserving of being in the
playoffs, right? Two things can be true at once.
Miami is good and they do not belong in the playoffs.
Listen Jake, I think we need to save the Centers for next week
because we are at the three hourmark now.

(02:57:34):
We can do it. I think we need to save that
position. I think we need to save, save it
for next week. No thinking we must draft fast.
I'm not, I'm not doing a draft. I'm not doing a draft.
You, we, we could do by position.
We could do a couple of all right, let's let's say up to

(02:57:57):
four centers 3. Minutes.
Let's say up to four centers andthen we'll skip Jake Slaughter
so that he because he's automatically included there as
like 5 centers. If you don't know, if you listen
to this podcast and you don't know who Jake.
Slaughter is. You haven't been listening well

(02:58:18):
enough, but we'll certainly talkabout Jake Slaughter again.
True what? Do you think about Connor Lou
from Auburn? Do you like him?
He's £300. I'm wondering 6 foot three.
He's one inch above what we callthe Atham Mendoza line.
Yes, the Atham line, I love it. I don't know that I think it's a

(02:58:40):
fantastic centre class, maybe a little top heavy.
I think Logan Jones is right where a fam wants.
What if you moved Jennings Dunker to centre 65315?
That would a fam would not cosign that.
He would not do that. Logan Jones is a Feb guy.

(02:59:06):
633-O2. Not too big, right, But he's
built. He's athletically built for
this. He's got a so.
Yeah. Logan Jones.
What weight did you just give for him?
Because I see three O 2. Yeah. 633-O2 yeah.
All right, so apparently he's estimated to run A49.

(02:59:33):
He's like, he's like light. He's like very light and skinny.
Yeah. No, Very light and fast is
impressive. Very light and fast.
Yeah. Lalulu's interesting.

(03:00:04):
Physical, good mover, all that stuff.
I think I still, I still feel like Logan Jones, even though
he's a little smaller than what the Green Bay likes, just just
like him as much as you liked Jaden Reed.

(03:00:26):
And I think we're in good shape where they just don't, they
don't care. I didn't really like like Jayden
Reid that much. Play, play physical.
I know that that's fair. I what I'm saying is, is right
when they go outside the thresholds like that, they love
the player. And so if they love the player,
that is Logan Jones enough. It just never pans out though.

(03:00:46):
They can, they can do this. No, what never pans out is they
don't draft actual guards. We're just, we're at the wrong,
we're at the wrong point in timewhere they should be doing that
stuff and they just will not quit.
I just I, I for zone. Logan Jones is built for it.

(03:01:09):
Second level stuff is so easy for him.
He plays the angles game really well.
He's got the finisher mentality,super physical like like all of
that is. It's just it it would work so
well if they wanted to do it wide zone inside zone, help him
double the leverage he can play with like I just he's going to

(03:01:33):
pull. You know how Lulu is is 6/2 By
the way, Lulu 620. My gosh, Oh my gosh, perfect.
Now he's not under 6 two, but wedid get AFAM to soften up on the
under 6/2. He likes Scott Wells.
Lulu is 329 on here, big boy, big boy.

(03:02:00):
I mean this is you got to see this.
If this ain't if this ain't a Packer.
I've never seen one look at the pass Packer.
Look at the look at the pass block run block splits on PFF
any 62329 If they if they go in the bigger guy route, which is
totally fine by me. You want to run you want to run
gap stuff. Hey, you want to be multiple.

(03:02:20):
This is how you do it. Yeah, this is this is so them 89
and the 68 that that that would you let me say something is sick
really problematic. Please, by all means.
All right, I'm going to say something really problematic and

(03:02:46):
and you, you got to let me afterI say the problematic thing, you
got to let me throw the like addendum on the end, right?
I think we need to start only drafting white guys on the
offensive line. All right, here's the addendum.

(03:03:07):
I'm fine with black guys anywhere else on the entire
roster, but I really want some stinky mulleted farmland white
boys on the offensive. Line.
These the, the black offensive lineman we've been drafting are

(03:03:28):
too nice and they're not gross enough.
We need really gross. So what you're saying fat white
boys? They don't have the hate.
They don't have the hate. There.
Are that the farmland boys? Do I can buy that?
You need some. Corn fed boys on that offense.
I can buy that. I'm sorry that part of it all by

(03:03:49):
give me every other position like give me black quarterbacks,
give me black receivers and corners and defensive lineman
and linebackers. Give me black tight ends even
like Mercedes Lewis was great. But I think we need white
offensive lineman because the black offensive lineman, I think
they're just, they're not gross enough and we need some really

(03:04:12):
gross dudes on the offensive lineman.
Just I'm just, I'm just being problematic.
But I think this might fix our run.
This might fix our run blocking problem.
We have too many black guys on the offensive line and
somebody's going to clip that one little bit.
Someone is clipping that and cancel me with it.

(03:04:34):
Yep, it has been fun. We got to we got to 102 shows.
There's 101 or you got our bonusshow.
Oh, it is 102. You're right.
It was 102. So with our bonus, it's on
three. Yeah, So we got that far.
We're good with that. Adam Huddle says Green Bay's

(03:04:57):
moving to Fat Boys, unfortunately.
Love Logan Jones. Yeah, I mean, this is kind.
Of kind of point Jake's making like he's he's a good player and
he's outside of their mold. And that's like Brian Maffey
would be here telling us how Logan Jones is.
No way. They're going to.
They're going to play. They're going to play.

(03:05:20):
They're going to take Zach Rice from Syracuse and you're going
to like it. The problem is, is you know, you
can find you can find smaller guys at guard who have the mean,
mean streak in them, but they don't draft those guys either.
OK, They don't have that. The Bears, unfortunately, right

(03:05:41):
now they have it and Tony's not big, right?
He's 65, but he's three O 4. He's not, he's not, he's not
built like A325330 guards that you would see.
Jonah Jackson I don't think is that big.
Either. Right, No, 64311.
Like obviously that's big. I I get it.

(03:06:01):
But like I'm talking about like,you know, the three 20's, the
320 fives, the three 30s like that that people are trying to
find there. So like they are doing it just
fine. Yeah, Brailsford's going to be
way too small. Hold on a second.
We need to, we need to look at these pictures of these guys.
Look at look at Connor Lou. Connor Lou.

(03:06:22):
That is a nice boy right there. Hold on, look at.
He's a nice looking boy right there.
And that's why he's going to be a terrible offensive lineman.
He's too nice. He's clean like he can, he can
get a nice day. He cannot be an offensive
lineman. Jake Slaughter, Look at that
face. That face right there, that is

(03:06:44):
an offensive lineman giving JakeSlaughter.
Sorry, Parker Brailsford, you can go be a quarterback.
We don't want you on our offensive line.
Tight end, 6290. Logan Jones, yes, yeah.
Parker Brailsford, tight end, sure.
Parker Brailsford, Defensive tackle, sure.
Quarterback, sure. Offensive lineman No.

(03:07:05):
Thanks. Logan Jones yes, Lulu, look at
that handsome man right there. That way too good looking to be
an offensive lineman. No Sir.
Connor Tolleson, that is an offensive lineman face.
He got a jaw. Look at that jaw. 28564 What a

(03:07:27):
heck of a centre body. 285 Give him some hamburgers.
He's going to get pushed around.Look at Bryce Foster, what a
gross looking offensive lineman.Perfect.
Give him $20 million. He is.
He is 65310. He's got the yeah build baby.
That's a guard right there, man.As my friend, a fan was saying,

(03:07:51):
he's not a true center. Pat Coogan.
I'm undecided. Look at that kind of a limited
picture. Is Pat Coogan too good looking?
Looks like a big too clean. You want your offensive lineman
to look like a big toe? That's what he looks like.

(03:08:12):
Jordan Wright. Jordan White.
Listen, I see what you're tryingto do.
You're being sneaky. Your last name is White.
OK, You're still black. JJ, Who's winning the game on
Sunday? Packers are winning the game, so
it ain't worth talking about. What's the score?
It's not even worth talking about.
That is true. We've barely talked about it.

(03:08:35):
You're right. We've really talked about.
I think it'll be somewhat high scoring.
I think the Bears are probably going to put up 21.
Give me like 3521, give me 3521.I think that the game kind of

(03:08:55):
gets out of hands for gets out of hand for the Bears when Caleb
Williams throws an interception that gets returned for about 10
yards. But like that, just that loss of
a possession. Can I give myself some credit
for how well I called the Lions game last week?

(03:09:15):
So I said that the final score was gonna be 3128 or 27.
And it wasn't that because the the the Lions didn't quite get
there. But I called the rest of it
perfectly for sure. I said at the start of the
fourth quarter Packers were going to have a 10 or 11 point.

(03:09:38):
Lead. And it's going to feel.
Over. And then the Lions are going to
go on a scoring drive in the fourth quarter, but the Packers
defense is going to successfullylimit their explosive plays and
make them burn up so much time that the game is just never in

(03:09:59):
hand. I could not have been more
correct. So by the way, stock up.
Matt Lafleur forgot to do this one.
If you're going to pass on 3rd down and not drain clock, might
as well go for it on 4th. Love that if that was the plan
the whole time. Sick.
I love that stuff. Also going for it.
You know, earlier in the game aswell, the aggressiveness was
sick. I think everybody fed off of it,

(03:10:20):
which is which is exactly what you want aggressiveness to do.
So yeah, big on that. I think that's how, because I
know everybody, my dad was losing his mind because they
were throwing on 3rd down when they could have just ran clock.
And I understand the defense stood up in some moments last
week where it felt like, OK, youknow, they got to go all the way

(03:10:42):
down the field with basically just Jamo and Gibbs, who was
bottled up. Obviously Jamo had a good game,
Gibbs was bottled up and so like, you know, that's totally
fine. But at that point then you threw
the incomplete pass on 3rd down.OK, well, then we're we're just
we're just full send then potentially, potentially would

(03:11:03):
have given them time to go down the field anyway, had Detroit
tied the game to go kick game winner.
So I loved it. Stock up on that.
I think I think you're going to need that again on Sunday.
I have the Bears plus 6 1/2 pretty much everywhere.
I think this one's tight just because of how well the Bears

(03:11:25):
can run the ball. And if.
Yeah. And it's our weakness right now
without Devante Wyatt, trying tostop the run is going to be
hard. Also, our linebackers are back.
I I want Green Bay to take the ball if they have that option.
If they win the toss, take the ball, go, score, and now you've
put the Bears in a hole exactly where they need to be, where

(03:11:45):
they might again. I know Ben Johnson, Good, good
play caller, good sequencer, probably still going to run the
ball down seven. OK, but you you get your QB that
the opposing quarterback in a trailing scenario who has been
volatile this year. He's been better debating Sachs
100%. He's he's been he's still made

(03:12:05):
the highlight reel throws. Absolutely, But you've seen the
misses still show up for him. The accuracy misses and and some
of the some of the jittery play with in the pocket.
If you get them in chase mode, I've then I have no doubt I I
have no doubt that they're goingto win this game.
My concern is they're going to defer and let the Bears run

(03:12:27):
right down the field on them thefirst drive and then the
pressure builds back on you. That's my biggest worry about
this game is when the Bears get it into a lead and they start
and they're able to do whatever they want, running the football
and Caleb throws 15 passes in the entire game.
No, no, no, Sir. We would like Caleb to throw
3035 passes in this game. OK, Put it all on him.

(03:12:52):
Don't let Manungai Swift and Tony and Dahlman and Jackson and
Wright take over the game. Don't let them do that.
Don't let Swift take over the game because that's just
embarrassing. It is, it is.
And so don't let their run game be the story on Sunday, right?
That's what you have to do. And there's a way to do that

(03:13:12):
right without, you know, it be their run game being a total
failure. The run game can be successful.
But if they're trailing the whole time, right, they're still
in a bit of pressure chase mode.That's where they need to be on
Sunday. So the Bears get the ball and
they start with the ball. I'm going to be very nervous and
very concerned. I'll keep running with the bid.
I picked the Lions last week. Let's pick the Bears to win this

(03:13:32):
one again here. Let's just keep that train
rolling. JJ.
I'm going to I'll I'll take it 2624.
Can you still hear me yes. So I can't I can hear you.
I can't see anything because my cat, my freaking cat unplugged

(03:13:56):
my OK power strip and so I can'tsee anything.
So what I need is Jennings Dunker is on the screen right
now. So when?
When it's time, because I can't see anything when it's time.
You can see I got the I got our outro picture.
So. So you tell me when?
Because I can't see a darn thing.

(03:14:17):
You got to tell me when we're doing the thing.
OK. But you got Jennings Dunker up
there. I assume right now that is
Jennings Dunker. Yes.
OK. Yeah.
So what's your what's your scoreprediction?
Then. 2624 I yeah, so I'm going you said 3521352135 is a lot to

(03:14:43):
ask them to put up is is Briskergoing to play in this game?
Probably I don't know. Is there early injury report 30?
5. I still I, I still probably like
3521 OK. TJ Edwards, Noah Sewell were
limited today. I think I think one of these two

(03:15:08):
Packers Bear games is going to be is going to be a blowout and
the other one's going to be really close.
So you're calling for the close game here.
Why the Bears win? Oh, you're the Bears winning
2624. Yes.
Oh, I didn't realize that. I thought I thought you had the
Packers 26. And then and then the blowouts

(03:15:28):
come ONS in Week 16 in Chicago. Interesting.
I will tell you I'm gonna pick. I I know, but I just, I feel
like that's probably the most realistic thing we're looking at
the moment. I'll I have the I'm gonna, I'm
gonna early call the Packers winning 30 to 13 in addition to
this pick so that I have those two sequence together.

(03:15:51):
I think they run that I, I thinkthey run away in that game
because there will be a passivity.
I feel like in this game that I'm not going to enjoy watching
right, sure. I mean the so so we're coming
off A2 game division rival win streak here, right?
And so so you think Lafleur is going to turtle up And I just I
worry that they're going to get behind in this game, right?

(03:16:14):
I worry that they are not going to take the ball and go punch
this thing in to go up 7 to start this game and put pressure
back on to the to the bears. That's my, at the same time, do,
do do you think that the Packersfeel comfortable about where
they're at right now in the NFC?They shouldn't.
No, I, I, I certainly agree theyshouldn't.

(03:16:37):
But do you think that they do feel comfortable?
Mount Lafleur has been way too comfortable at times this
season. Yeah, I, I just think, I think
what's going to happen is they're going to, this is the
tight game that I, I'm going to say they lose it.
And then I think they're going to emphatically plant the flag

(03:16:57):
in Soldier Field in two, 2 1/2 weeks.
That to me, I'm going to have to, I'm going to have to eat a
lot of crow if we lose this game.
And, and I don't like talking during Bears week.
I don't really like posting anything during Bears week.
No, I don't, I don't even mean with Bears fans.
I just mean like, so after the Eagles game, I had so many
people come in and ask me like, hey, are the Bears actually

(03:17:18):
good? Now I'm going to have.
To eat a lot of crow if we lose some point granted to all these
people who I have said, no, the Bears are not good.
I've also said I don't think thePackers are right a great team
either. Yeah.
So I don't know. This feels like the one that's
going to be the sweating it out game of the two of them.
I I just, I have that. I have that feeling of Lafleur

(03:17:41):
putting kind of the nuts on the table a little bit like he did
in Detroit on Thursday, on the road in Chicago in 2 1/2 weeks.
I feel like that's the Lafleur that's going to show up in
Chicago. Don't know what we're this one
feels really eerie to me. And I don't like it because I
would love the nothing more thanthe bears to be in the seven
seed spot and and on the brink alittle bit after Sunday.

(03:18:05):
Yeah. And this game is at 425.
Yeah. I just, I don't like the the
vibes. It's all off right now.
I don't like it. I got to enjoy.
Well, it's probably it's probably largely because of
Devante Wyatt. The Devante Wyatt injury is
probably like 70% of the bad vibes.
Well, and and I think wondering is it a benefit to them that

(03:18:28):
they already had to survive without Devante Wyatt for a big
chunk of the year earlier? And so maybe they come in like
having thought about like, hey, yeah, we didn't handle this
right the first time. Here's our Plan B.
Does that serve them? Maybe.
I don't know. I just everything feels weird

(03:18:49):
about this game. And I hate that it's Bears week
and I'm feeling this way. It just feels so off and I don't
like it. And I feel like having Tucker
Craft is would mean more in thisgame than Wyatt just because,
again, I think if the bears makethem, you know, do the thing of,
you know, we're just kind of what the Panthers did right,

(03:19:11):
where the big plays are just notavailable.
Who's going to who's going to step up right as as Drew said,
they have it activated read. That would be a little
concerning to me if he does not play as well because I feel like
he's going to be the underneath access.
Is is Matthew Golden playing this week?
He he's that's still up in the air.

(03:19:32):
He's missed like 3 games now. Lafleur said.
Something about trending towardsplaying or?
Something like that. On Monday, so maybe that would
be a great game for him to show out.
Goodness, I see on on YouTube Drew says bears are 28th in
rushing D and 22nd in passing D.So that means we should run.

(03:19:56):
I just don't can we run? Are we good at that?
Feels like a weakness on weakness thing, right?
You know, they do have a little bit of extra rest.
That's true. But like not, I mean, it's it's
pretty similar. Is that 28th in EPA or 28th in
yardage because they've played some?
Dog. Water opponents.

(03:20:17):
If it's. EPA let.
Me check the EPA stuff. Here, if it's EPA that's than
than they probably are 28th. If it's if it's yardage, then
I'm going to say they're probably closer to 32nd.
Let's see here, because if they're 28th with the schedule,
they played 28th. If they're 28th with the

(03:20:37):
schedule they played, that's even worse.
Yeah, 'cause the Bears right now, defensively as a unit,
they're 19th in EPA, they are 25th in success rate.
They are 18th in drop back EPA and 23rd in drop back success

(03:21:03):
rate on defense. And yet you think they're a good
team? 20, I didn't say they were a
good team. You did say they're a good team
when provide receipts earlier when we were talking about the
Eagles game. What do you mean?
I was poo pooing the bears, I was poo pooing the bears.

(03:21:26):
I was poo pooing the bears and you were sticking up for them.
The bears are not a good team. OK, I see.
Iowa. I always thought it was calling
us out for being at 3 hours and 20 minutes.
We got to end this. I, I say, I say we picked this
back up after the game and we'llhave another data point, which

(03:21:46):
is how they played against us. We'll certainly have another
data point. You got our you got our picture
ready for us. Yep, he's up there.
Thank you all so much. Oh, you gotta hit this stop,
dude. I can't.
Thank you all so much for hanging out with us for.
Way too long, missus. Leahy is not going to be happy
because I bet she wants to go tobed.

(03:22:09):
But I appreciate you, Jake. I appreciate you.
I appreciate the Packers went two and O against the Lions.
As a Packer fan living here in Michigan, always a Packers Ohio
State fan living here in Michigan, I appreciate my my
team's stepping up for me. It's been a rough couple years,
but I appreciate them. Do you guys like, hopefully you

(03:22:32):
like your picture that I made because because I, I can't save
it right now. This is a go.
Pack. Go.

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