Pop-Tarts, Anchorman, and Dubya: Packers Therapy

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Someday. I woke up 1 morning just a
regular schmo. Green Bay was restless.
The spirit ran low and then it hit me.
I had to let it show. So shouting so loud.
Go, pack. Go.

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Oh, which is ACL? Oh God.
Lie, lie, lie. Well, it was a good season
everyone. We are done.

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We're done. No, just give up now.
Like holds his breath. I'm not holding my breath
because I know what it is. I know what it is.
Jake. Speech.

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I want to, I want to say two things.
First, welcome back to Derailed.We're going to do some some
Packers therapy. This is going to be a somber
beginning. And then hopefully it'll get
more lively as we go along. Second, I told you so.
Oh, sorry. That was for last week, the
episode that we had to skip me gloating up, being right about

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how the Bears game was going to go.
Now on to current events. I'm going to be honest, I'm not
sure this is going to sound kindof wild.
I'm not sure that this person's ACL injury moves the needle

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needle for me a enormous amount for the Packers.
I had already kind of a window like a floor to ceiling, right,
or like where I thought the Packers could be.
And it was like good enough thatsure, you like the top end of

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that could really hit where we wanted to be.
But I had a lot of concerns, right?
And I feel like that window hasn't moved its ton.
Maybe it's gotten like a little narrower, right?
Or like moved down a little bit,right.
But like we have other pass rushers.

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They're not Michael Parsons. We have other pass rushers and
we still have a lot of the same holes on this roster that we
were already concerned about. And I'll remind you, we gave up
like 31 points in 15 minutes to the Broncos with Micah Parsons
on the field there. There's a lot to get through and

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we have plenty of time to do it.Maybe before we start talking
about the Bears game, any somberwords that you'd like to share
with us? Or or perhaps gifts of
encouragement? No, I've done about 14 mock
drafts since Sunday night. I've pretty much called it.

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I don't think they have it enough this year at this point
to get it done. I'll be the realistic here.
I'm which is fine. Like I've, I've moved on.
We're watching other stuff. We're, you know, touching grass,
which is good. Been a big fan of that recently.
But yeah, that's pretty much allI have to say.
I don't, I don't think I have much to say.

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I don't think there's going to be.
I think they might have one morewin in them down the stretch
here. 2. Maybe 2, but I don't think we'll
see any in January. I'm still seeing 2.
I think we close out the Season 6 and O against the NFC North.
Which is that would be nice. A huge goal of mine.

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I do think that's going to happen.
I never thought we would win this Broncos game.
Broncos No. Me either.
Are an excellent passing attack.I've said all year, and I don't
care what the dunkers on X like to say every two or three weeks
when Keyshawn Nixon has a nice pass breakup.

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We don't have corners. We have 0 CB ones on the roster.
There was never a world where wewere going to shut down their
passing attack. The weirdest thing for me
watching the Denver game was howlong it took for Denver to stop
trying to run the freaking ball and just start passing.

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It was wild to me watching them repeatedly try and run it on us.
And I'm like, why? Why would you do that?
You're not a good run team. We're a good run defense team.
Throw the ball. I know you're scared of Micah,
but you don't have to fear thesecorners.
And the middle of the field is always going to be open.

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And the Broncos, I think, have asimilar receiver room to the
Packers. Like a lot of guys who have
talent, maybe no superstars, butkind of like you can kind of
pepper the field, right And you you're always going to find

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somebody who's got a good chanceof beating their one-on-one.
This was a passing attack that Ialways feared for the for the
Packers. So it was just weird to me how
long it took for the Broncos to start leaning into their
strength, which was also our weakness.
So I'm I'm I'm in agreement withyou.

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I don't think this team has it. Are they going to make the
playoffs? Yes they will.
Make think so. Don't think so.
Frankly, this kept with the Packers for a few years.
I think the which season was it?Was it was it 23 where we made

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it into the playoffs and then lost to the 49ers?
Was Jordan Love was that 23? So that was the one where prior
to us finding out the matchup was the 49ers.
I was like, hey, this is actually a pretty good squad.
We might have a chance to win a game or two.
Since then, I have not cared about making blouse because when

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we get to December time, I don'tbelieve in the squad.
And this is kind of the case again this year.
And losing Devante Wyatt again, that was kind of the that was
kind of the the first maybe likefinal nail in the coffin of

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like, hey, this thing is about to start coming apart at the
seams. I will say I thought they did
kind of a decent job plugging upthe middle of the defensive line
against Denver. He had kind of a sick rotation.
New signee Jordan Riley played 16 snaps.

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Thought he was OK when he was inthere.
The Brooks and Wooden duo certainly, certainly getting
their money out of those guys. Brinson, that was not that good.
But then the story of the day for the defense, minus injuries,

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clearly was the cornerback play not even being close to being
good enough. And so even if we were sitting
today, sitting here today, let'ssay that we didn't lose Micah
and we finished with the same score that we have now because

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let's face it, the defense did not lose this game for us after
Micah went out. The defense lost the game for us
before Micah went out when they gave up three straight
touchdowns. And the offense for a lot of the
day, I thought was good enough against this caliber of a Denver

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defense that we were going against.
I thought our offense mostly big, good enough.
You could see in the fourth quarter, late in the fourth
quarter, I think really after Jordan's pick is that's when you
can see the the offense losing heart and losing hope.

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But the defense did not lose it for us after Michael went out.
So let's say Micah just comes off the field for that one snap
that he for his ACL. He's not out there on that snap,
so he's healthy. We lose by the same score we did
today. I don't think I feel more

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optimistic about this team in the playoffs because of the
cornerback situation. It's been bad all year.
It has never gotten better despite, like I said, the
dunkers on X who like to put up their three play highlight reels
and go oh what now? Oh well the Keyshawn haters are

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sure quiet now. It's like bro, it's not just
Keyshawn. Carrington stinks.
Hobbs stinks. Siobhan Bullard when you ask him
to play cornerback? Dreadful.
He's a fine box safety. Nope, no complaints about that
really. Like he's good enough at box
safety. When you ask anybody with CB and

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for their name go play cornerback, for us it hasn't
been good enough. Yeah, No, I think I I'll
probably disagree Where I think if they had Mike, I think they
could they plenty they would plenty have a chance to take
this whole thing. I think there's you.

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Think this. Team.
There's one. Unique You think this This team
could take on the Rams or a rematch with the Broncos in the
Super Bowl. An elite passing attack.
I don't think Denver is an elitepassing attack personally.
I know you do. I think it's more that they have

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elite protection schemes becauseSean Payton is their designer
more so. Than.
Like an elite passing attack, right?
I to me, like Sutton's fine, Franklin's fine, but I want them
in Green Bay. Not really.
They don't really move the needle.
I've never liked their wide receiver.
Ever. I at no point have I ever liked
their wide receiver. But they've been getting it done

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this year and Nyx has been distributing the ball with great
efficiency and they get the ballout quick enough.
This Packers secondary has no chance if you're getting the
ball out before the pass rush gets home.

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Our corners are never going to hold up.
I don't, I mean by the efficiency stuff, Bo Nicks is
extremely middle of the road as a quarterback this year.
So I mean, I I don't remember what week it was, whatever,

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where it was. You know, I we've gotten deep
into this where Green Bay was still leading the league in
yards after the catch per reception.
You know, so I I think that's been totally fine If teams want
to get the ball out quick again,I think that this was this the

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match up where it felt like Denver was going to win the slog
or, you know, you have somethingopen up like this.
I think with Micah, they can beat the Rams.
I don't, I don't think the Rams,you know, the, the, the metrics
will tell you the Rams are head and shoulders above everybody.
And I think that's fair. But I do think there are a few

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teams who could still contend with them.
But I, I again, we're, we're in the situation now where Mike is
not here and that again it it. Yeah.
Can I ask you a question? Sure, for sure about a totally
different player. Sure.

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What do you think of How Jordan Love?
Played. I don't have any problems, but I
assume you're asking that. I'm asking because I had this
weird revelation this time. While I was watching him.
And it was late in the fourth quarter.

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This is maybe 2 play. It's the start of the drive
where he throws the pick that ends up not hurting us at all
because the defense gets the ball right back.
But it's his second pick of the game to the fourth quarter.
He goes out there and I had thisthought like, I don't know that
I actually have confidence in this passing attack to go down

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there and and score. Even though they've been moving
the ball today, this offense to me does not feel clutch.
And I had this thought of like, I do think if Aaron Rodgers were
back there, I would feel pretty confident that they would find
the the clutch gear. So I'm I'm just asking you what

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you thought because as you know,I have always been a massive
Jordan Love believer. So that's why I wanted to be the
one to bring it up of how you felt he played and has been
playing lately in those moments where you kind of need to be

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clutch. I don't know, I feel like the
4th and three throw against Detroit to ice it was pretty
freaking good. That wasn't too old for this.
Points out that Wix was responsible for the Denver
interception, which is true. It's also partially.
At least partially, yeah. The play you're referencing

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against Detroit was also to Wix.It was a superhero catch by Wix.
Yeah, I mean, I, I actually feellike, you know, I yeah, maybe
the the under thrown one to Watson a little bit where again,
it's I mean, that's, that's a defensive player of the year.

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That's that's an incredible play.
I've watched it over and over again thinking, man, certain,
you know, physical, you know, extremely intelligent, extremely
detailed and also can just kind of I know it was under thrown,
but he was still with Watson on that.
It wasn't like, Oh my gosh, Watson is so open.
It's like, OK, so he can still run with like these guys that he

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is an outrageously good player. So I do think, yeah, I, I don't,
I don't know. I, I, I thought it, I, I didn't
feel like I had that thought, tobe honest, although it was, it's
been, it was a long weekend of alot of stuff where it was just
kind of like I was just kind of even just selling it just kind

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of like, you know, I didn't see a lot of the early stuff.
I, I thank goodness I saw at least Green Bay game.
But now I kind of think I wish Ihadn't pretty much went numb.
I honestly, I don't even remember most of the fourth
quarter, to be perfectly honest.I feel like I was just numb
watching the replay of Parson's shin resetting and going, Yep,

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that'll do that. So honestly, but I I don't think
at any point where. Do you ever remember seeing a
player clutch the back of their knee and then it not be an ACL?
Like we all know what an ACL looks like at this Pacheco.
But Shaco's had a few injuries in his time in KC where I go,
oh, he's super done and he's just, and it's like it's like

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lower leg stuff. But that's probably it.
That's the only guy I can think of right now.
Puka's more taking like upper body shots where I'm going, oh,
he's not coming back and he comes back in.
Pacheco's probably the only one I can think of where I'm like,
oh, he's his leg snapped, right?And no, he's.
Different sport, but Giannis in the in the Giannis is a finals.
Yeah. So like, that'd be the one we

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all believe cooked. Yeah, usually it's it's not
good. So I guess yeah, maybe, yeah,
Jordan and Brazil perhaps, but yeah, it yeah, that I, I went
super numb, honestly, but. Credited I.

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Completely dislike Denver, but Irespect Denver.
They're a heck of a team. That's that's a heck of a win
for them. Where I know that a lot of
people were riding them a lot into November, December for not
winning a game like that. Really.
So yeah, good for them. Won't be Bruton for you, but

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respect. I will be rooting for most
everyone else except you. But I will say if you play the
Eagles or the Bears in the SuperBowl, I'll I'll jump it on.
I'll be for sure jumping on for y'all.
No question about it. But.
If if it was a Broncos, Lions, Super Bowl, who would you root
for? The Detroit Lions for sure.

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Denver's. Denver's probably 5th on my.
Do not like lists right now I would say.
I, I have hated Denver for a very long time and I just
recently really like since they drafted bone necks, I guess have
like softened on them a bit. One of my biggest frustrations
with them for the longest time was that like they could never

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just go out and go find a real quarterback on their own.
They're always sniff in trying to poach other teams,
quarterbacks like, oh, we're going to get Aaron Rodgers.
Oh, we're going to get Russell Wilson.
It's like, go get your own freaking quarterback, man.
That always irritated me. Can I?
Silverlighting that might be that might be some some self
some self-awareness though of like where we stink at drafting

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these guys. Let's go get let's go get a VAT
like Indy's done that for a longtime Pittsburgh has been doing
that right. So like some teams, Cleveland
should probably be doing that. The Jets should be doing that.
Don't draft your own guys, perhaps.
Cleveland, you know, Cleveland made made a big swing.
You'll get a quarterback from Houston.
They lest we forget. They did.

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They did. Can I silver lining this whole
ACL thing if it's possible? Sure.
I want a silver. I want the attempt, yes.
I want a silver lining Sunday. So Patrick Mahomes tears his ACL

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and I just wonder. Nuts, by the way.
I just wonder if it being Mahomes tearing his ACL down, I
wonder if this finally gets the NFL to start investing serious

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resources into studying ACL tearprevention because it's just.
It's insane how many AC LS explode every year.
The the Packers are averaging like 2 per season right now of

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like starters and that's just one of 32 teams.
The it's this friggin non contact injury where your leg
just explodes randomly. So my silver lining with it

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being God King Mahomes himself who finally gets the ACL bug,
Does the A does the NFL finally start throwing a serious chunk
of coin at figuring how to out how to prevent this?
Nah, they're too busy on Game 18for this league to be worried

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about that. Yeah, but Pat Mahomes is their
cash cow. We've seen how they prop him up
at every turn. Oh, wait, year after the year
after what, 18 and 1? Brady tore it could have easily,

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you know, maybe maybe push some resources there after that.
I, I don't think, I don't think we're going to see it.
I I think. Look, J Skate agrees with me.
Whole life is important enough. I, I just feel like, again, what
I think where we're getting is to just, you know, the lifting
and, and the training and all this is just going, you know,

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further and further. They're pushing the limits,
right? You watch, you know, college
kids set new squat records and all that, you know, and it's
like that this is where we're headed.
We're straining all that. And like, you know, as Tyler
Dershow points out, you know, the muscle fatigue from doing
all that stuff. I mean, it's yeah.

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I mean, but that's just kind of where we're headed as
everybody's trying to be bigger and faster and stronger playing
this sport. I I wish it was easy as a fix as
saying like banned turf. Well, I do think turf is a
problem, right. You know, Warren Brinson's tweet
we made we were laughing at a few weeks ago about a first game
playing on concrete what not andJacobs is just banging his knee

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into the ground and that's like a been a major issue since by
just hitting it on the ground. Obviously neighbors got injured
there. One of the Niners got injured
there like they that field is itis an atrocity.
Should be burned burned the witch type of deal for.

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That John Mara we're bringing John Mara.
Maybe we do. News got.
To love, got to love that, that MetLife is saying, hey, we'll
fly in some glass for the World Cup.
But these guys, no, you can play.
You can play on concrete, big dog.
So, you know, moving, moving, you know, cutting much more and

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then elevating for stuff more like, yeah, you guys, but you
guys, you guys figure it out. So it's yeah, I don't know if
they're going to do it. They they should have a long
time ago. I mean, the Achilles stuff is,
is also, you know, getting more to be a problem.
So I don't yeah, I don't know. I don't know what they're going

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to do with that. Can I offer a positive from
Sunday? Hold on.
We we need to do a new segment sponsored by Reaction by
Redacted. Energy all.
Right, what do you got? Go ahead.
No, this is your segment, but itneeds to be a new segment
sponsored by Reacted Energy. I have AI have a really nice
positive development. I thought from Sunday we'll move

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into yeah, this isn't Wix, JJ, Do you think it's Wix?
Do you think that's it? Is Wix.
It is Wix. You think it's you think Wix is
the the silver lining? Positive development from
Sunday. Oh no, I don't.
You're right, it is not Wix, no.Oh.
Wait, is it a player? Yeah, Is it a player?

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Player for sure Chad drop picks.Drop your pick.
What? Who?
You think? Can I?
Can I just have 3 guesses? Can I have 3 guesses?
Sure, I I feel like that'll be plenty for you to get it done.
All right, if I can you say likewrong position if I if I put it,

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yeah. I'll say, I'll say wrong if I'll
say wrong. If it's wrong position, yeah.
OK, Darien Canard wrong wrong position like not not online.
Correct, correct. Not online.
OK, give me oh. Tool for this The question is

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who what the the player that hasthe I thought a positive
development from Sunday. Jimmy, Rashon, Gary.
No wrong. Dang, oh man, I wouldn't forget.
Let's see Joe says Golden dershow.
Says Cooper. A tool for this, says Notre

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Dame. Close, but no J skate, says John
Wicks. Can we get?
A cool for this mouse and a bananas gosh.
See, I feel like this is one of those where the the answer would
be like Tyron Hopper, except I know he only played one snap on
defense so it could be answer but he's like he's like poster

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child for this type of question.We should.
While we're thinking, while you're thinking, I think we have
a new segment presented by NotreDame.
We'll call it crashing out because that's I think what
their AD did when they weren't in the playoffs.
There's a crash out segment thatwe have that will be presented
by Notre Dame. How's that sound?
I'm I'm going to go with my my final answer.

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And this is this is not what I think.
This is what I think you think, Luke Musgrave.
No. Oh, oh, oh, I know, I know.
Zero agent 0 How about it? How about it all right, I feel
really good about what we saw. I know, I know the one dig route

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the corner was definitely like in a bail cover three look, I
really don't care. He got him to turn.
That's what's important. The back shoulder fade that he
ran. Give it to me.
Give it all to me 0, 9:00 and 11:00 on the field in 11
personnel, OK, that's what I want.

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Well. But do.
We that's what I want. Watson's actually going to play
this Sunday. Oh, we're, you know, well, no,
he'll play hopefully Saturday. If he shows up Sunday, JJ, we
might have. Is our game on Saturday?
It is, yes. Saturday night?
Oh my, he shows up on Sunday. Yes, that will not be ideal.
Saturday game. This is the weirdest time of

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year if he shows. Up on Sunday.
All regular season and the and College Football Playoffs.
He shows up on I got to make this joke.
If if Watson shows up on Sunday,his dad's going to complain that
they played on a Saturday instead.
So, you know, be like, why didn't why are we playing on
Saturdays? That's just stupid.
J Skate has a late guess of Phillip Rivers.

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It's only 1 L in Phillip Rivers.It may be two after next next
Monday against the Niners though.
We. Go.
I got into a very. Two LS.
Heated debate with a friend of mine about Rivers.
So this friend Brady and I both agree that Philip Rivers prior

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to unretiring was not going to be in the Hall of Fame.
We, we, we both agree that that's our stance that he was
not going to be in the Hall of Fame.
So I was I was postulating or I just threw it out there.
Wouldn't it be funny if, now that he's had a few years off to
rest and recover, he's got some something left in the tank, goes

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on a tear, and actually does gethimself into the Hall of Fame
now, finally. They were.
Close. I unretired.
So I threw that up there saying wouldn't it be funny?
So Brady says no. The only thing he did was hurt
his Hall of Fame chances. I.
Said, but he was already out. So the only thing you could do
is boost your stock you if you're already out, you can't

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make yourself more out. So begs the question, do you
think that Philip Rivers currently is already a lock for
out of the playoffs? Oh, out of the yeah.

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I mean Hall of Fame. OK, no.
So he's, he's like, he's he. He's currently not on a Hall of
Fame trajectory. So wait, you're asking, do you
think he is? Wait, Ask that again.

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What's the question? All right, if he had not
unretired, was he going to be inthe play in the Hall of Fame?
Was he going to? Right.
I. I don't know, it's pretty 5050
for me. I would put him in.
I don't I I would lean towards more people saying to not put
him in most likely. All right, so this then led to a

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very, very heated debate about Josh Allen.
Is Josh Allen currently a lock for the Hall of Fame today?
Based on what like the Hall of Fame folks think, Probably not.
So my my buddy Brady insists Josh Allen is already currently

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a lock for the Hall of Fame. I said, kind of meanly, Allen
would have to win a Super Bowl to beat the choker allegations.
I said right now, Russell Wilson, that.
Is the mainstream thing. Going to two Super Bowls and

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having a ring because Brady's argument was Josh Allen is
currently like a perennial top five quarterback every year and
he won an MVP. And I said Russell Wilson was
all that and went to the Super Bowl twice and won it once and
is a head and shoulders better case than current present day

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Josh Allen. And Brady said he doesn't think
Russell Wilson is a lock for allthe Hall of Fame, which I agree.
Now, I think there's a good chance he gets in, but I
certainly don't think he's a lot.
Yeah. I this is where I think, I think
is an important distinction of like, you know, is in the eyes
of like the, the people who voteand the people who look at the

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accomplishment portion of it, oflike, you know, maybe how you
should look at team stuff. Yeah.
I think Russell Wilson probably in the eyes of like voters and
how the system has long worked, probably has a better case for
sure has a better case than JoshAllen at the moment.
Do I think Allen's a better quarterback all time already
than Russell Wilson? Yeah, I do.

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I kind of do. That's just how I that's how I
would view it. Like I think Allen's better than
probably than a lot of guys already.
But yeah, so I think like do I think Stafford's a better all
time QB than Russ? Yeah, I do.
So like the I just I yeah, I feel like there are, but but
what they look at accomplishments so much so that

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like guys like Eli and and and probably Roethlisberger are
getting in. So yeah, I right now I think
just accomplishment wise, which is, you know, whatever.
Like yeah, probably he probably wouldn't because you know, yeah,
MVP. That's cool.
You know who else has an MVP? Matt Ryan does.

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Is he going to the? Hall of Fame.
So we talked about Matt Ryan. I.
Don't know is he? I said show me why Matt Ryan
should be in the Hall of Fame, but Kirk Cousins shouldn't.
They're not that. Different that's that's an
interesting one. I also said, and this is this is
where Brady, just where I had totally lost Brady.

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Matt Ryan beaten the Shanahan allegations.
What I said, what I said next iswhat totally lost.
I don't know, Tim. He said.
I said Josh Allen and Jordan Love right now have nearly
identical valuable cases to makefor Hall of Fame status.

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That is to say, they're both out.
I'm not saying Jordan Love is in.
I'm saying Jordan Love has not been playing as many years as
Josh Allen. Also doesn't have an MVP.
But I would put those two guys on the exact same tier of how
good is your Hall of Fame case today, which Brady hated this

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argument. He said that there's no
comparison between the two guys.And I said, I'm not saying any
of this to say Jordan Love is going to the Hall of Fame.
I'm saying this to say the gap between where Josh Allen's
career is right now and where itwould need to be to be a Hall of
Fame lock, pretty big gap. And winning a Super Bowl

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dramatically elevates that resume.
Because the biggest knock on Josh Allen is he's a choker.
It's the biggest knock on him is, hey, regular season
magician. And then he and Lamar like, oh,
playoff time. See ya.

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That's that's the biggest knock on those guys.
Everybody respects the heck out of what they do in the regular
season. We all maybe not you, but me and
Twitter trolls call these guys playoff chokers.
You can't put a playoff choker in the Hall of Fame now, Brady
said, Hey, what about Dan Marino?

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Marino never won a Super Bowl. He's in the Hall of Fame.
I said Marino, like changed the game.
Josh Allen hasn't changed the game.
Josh Allen belongs in the Hall of Very Good and he has an
opportunity because of his talent to build a Hall of Fame

(37:22):
resume, but he has not done so yet.
Yeah, that's interesting. I would put I would on think I
put like Allen and Love on the same tier, But I get what you're
saying of like I buy the argument of like accomplishment
wise. Alan has not if you retired
tomorrow, guaranteed himself a spot at all, just just in the

(37:44):
way of how the process works fora lot of this.
That would that would be the thethe stance I believe.
Do you think that there was a time where Russell Wilson was a
Hall of Fame lock and has now played himself out of that?
Do you think that that is a truestatement?

(38:04):
He's probably isn't. I don't know.
I think from how from because wewe are kind of probably just in
a just like how Denver went and how it's all gone since he left
Seattle. I think that's like the fan, the
fan list perspective. Like, yeah, that takes it out of

(38:26):
the taste of my mouth. Does not feel good about Russell
Wilson. Now, Rush fell off before he
left Seattle. His final year in Seattle was
atrocious. Nobody paid any mind because
everybody said, oh, it's all because of how bad Seattle is.
Then the year he leaves, Seattlemagically, magically good with

(38:46):
no quarterback. Yeah.
Denver with Russell, Terrible. Yeah.
I mean, when has Russell been good?
Since then I think. So I think again, I would, I
would have never had him in in the 1st place.
I've been pretty, pretty consistent on like I he's not
somebody I'd be putting in anyway, but I so I don't think

(39:10):
so. Like my opinion has never
changed on him really. I think like you've seen there,
there are Q BS. I'm not we're not going to get
to this right now, but like we have we there are Q BS that have
built a lot on like deep ball, no middle fields, scramble
around till guys are open and like the the non high level

(39:30):
processing players at this juncture, like just wait.
A minute are we? There?
Is some of that order back like that this Saturday?
I think like to me there is the the voters, their their opinions
will not be swayed, I don't think by what has happened, you

(39:51):
know, since whatever 2022 I guess is.
I think that was was that as last year, 2121 was his last
year, 21 was his last year in Seattle.
Yeah. So I don't I don't think they've
probably moved it just because again, oh, back-to-back Super
Bowls on a big team on a big Time Team that's going to be
mentioned. You know, when you talk about
the NFLI feel like they're probably going to keep him in

(40:13):
just because of that. So I don't think that in the
eyes of the voters, it's probably sour that much.
I think people who maybe were touting him as like a no
doubter. Potentially like just, you know,
in passing finalists, however you want to, whatever you want
to call them. Like they've probably soured a
little bit. And then those who have
staunchly said no for the most part are probably dog piling on

(40:37):
right now watching how he how hehas played, especially in the
last couple years. So yeah, I.
Think I'm going to give you 2 more names before we end this
segment. Sponsored The special segment
sponsored by Redacted. Is it whole Eli, Eli and Drew?

(40:58):
Eli Manning, No, would never puthim in in my opinion.
Do I think the? Voters will put him in.
It's not would you? It's.
Voters will. He will get in.
Well, that's why I gave both. Yeah, I would not put him in.
Voters will put him in. Yeah.
So, and then Drew, like, first ballot Drew Brees.
Yeah. First ballot, Yeah.
For sure, no question. OK.

(41:19):
No question. Drew Brees first ballot.
This has been Hall of Fame quarterbacks presented by
Redacted Energy. Is there anything you want to
talk about for the Packers centric before we focus on the
Chicago Bears? That's Packers centric outlet.

(41:44):
This is kind of Packers centric,right?
Where is this? So remember, just a reminder to
those out there OK, the end of year sale is still going on.
We'll technically I don't know we'll see Christmas week gets a
little hectic could technically on the schedule at the moment

(42:04):
we'll have two more of these chances for end of year half off
mock drafts. So you know get those in if you
if you want that to happen laterin the show tonight.
I. Kind of would like to do a funky
mock draft or two where we we self impose drafting only from

(42:29):
one conference or from one school?
One school, yeah. Oh no, we don't have a lot of
draft. Picks.
It'd be kind of wild if we did arandom wheel spin and it's like
a Delaware and like, I don't think there are.
Gosh. No, no, no, no.
You got to pick a team that actually has enough draft
prospects. I just told the number of draft
picks. Yeah, I.

(42:50):
Don't. I don't know if we're going to
get lucky enough other than likemaybe one or two schools where
that will be the. Case.
That's why we don't, that's why we don't even have a chance.
What school is we picked the school OK?
Fair enough, hey. Look, oh, oh, oh, we got a don't
know. How about that?
See, this is, you know what I will say this is a fun
development. I don't think I would ever do

(43:12):
this. Usually this is more J JS Arena
where he, you know, we talked about that at episode 100.
I think it was like. Episode 6 or. 7 but JJJJ got it
going and which is awesome but he was definitely on that.
I remember. I think JJ gets greedy was in a
title if I'm not mistaken. I think that's where that
started. Which I thought was hilarious.
Like almost every statement he was going like, I'll tell you if

(43:35):
so, you know, fun development there that I have the one about.
Venmo is is staring at Jake right now, glowing.
You must be truly desperate to come to me for help.
It's true. So, Drew.
You couldn't live with your own failure.
Where did that take? Where did that bring you back to
me? All right, I'm going to put 4 WS

(44:00):
in Drew and. OK, OK.
Yes. So, Drew.
We don't have the final picks. Mark drafts aren't realistic
anyway. OK, this is how the jocks do
their fan fiction. OK, this is this is Jock.
Version of. Oh gosh.
Speaking of. That's what this is.
The Bears are Bears fans are aregetting all Bears Fanny again.

(44:24):
It's it's Green Bay needs to winon Saturday, just.
I am actually not taking. No playoff win at this point.
Just beat them. Please, just so we can the six
what I said the JJ, the six snowand.
Division thing. That's what I want.
Yes, I love that. I'm glad that you played with
that. Let's.
Get that? This was my goal.
That sounds lovely. That sounds.

(44:45):
I said this after the the Washington game.
Yeah, I said didn't lose the ball.
Green Bay has no business not winning the division this year.
Still, yeah, that is important Ithink.
Has there been a point this year?
OK, there was there was one point this year.
It was like 2 weeks ago when youand I were doing the the playoff

(45:07):
the the this. Oh, the machine.
Playoff machine with the end of season predictor we were picking
all the games. Machine.
And this was where I talked myself into the Packers Super
Bowl path, right? Remember that?
Other than that one instance, have you heard me this season

(45:27):
drinking the kool-aid and sayingOh yeah, Packers Super Bowl this
year? Or have I been a negative Nelly
the entire season? You you I don't know if you've
been like insanely negative necessarily, like I think there
were there are realistic. Randy.
Yeah, that's, I think that's worse.
I, I think, I think you've, you've, you've hung around that

(45:48):
arena, which I think is a great arena to hang out in.
I that's what I like. It's where I live.
I do like to live in there, I think.
You know which season, I think. There was only one point where
like, it felt like the division was unattainable and that was
the crashing out episode. That was the Carolina Panthers
lost, was it not? No, that was after Philly.

(46:11):
That was after the Philly game where it was just like, all
right, what is what are we doing?
What what are we doing? Like that was there was a lot of
views on that. If you haven't seen that, you
know. Go watch it.
I love you this Eric. Brian does this all the time.
I love you to death, Brian. You talk so much about people

(46:32):
I've never heard of. I think that there's these, I
think there's these Packer fans that you know of that I've like
never heard of. I don't know who these people
are. We're in a group chat, which I
love. It's a super fun.
You need to use the full names also just I think.
That's a better way. Brian is constantly saying like,

(46:54):
hey, so and so said this or so and so thinks this and every
single time I'm like, I have no idea who any of these people
are. I know Jake Chavink.
I know oh, who's the guy we all hate right now?
Oh, Ryan Clark being super annoying on TV of.
Course. Oh God.
OK, so like again, not a not bigon the Broncos, but big mad

(47:18):
respect the Broncos fans. They I watch them dunk on
everybody, which is they're, they're kind of annoying in that
regard, but. For, for, for.
Ryan Clark to be like Bonex, caused their injury to Parsons.
Even for Ryan Clark, that what are you?
Doing it's like, shut up. If you don't have anything to
say, go away. That was a bad take.

(47:41):
OK, I, I, I like OK, yeah. Because I know Parsons is
thinking he has to change direction because Beau is a very
natural and and very instinctivescrambler.
And he was doing that throughoutthe game.
And it was impressive. But like, that's how the game is
played. What are we doing?
Like, Oh my God, That that's, that's, that is just outrageous.

(48:01):
Like, guess what? A running place caused a
lineman's injury. Yeah, that's how running plays
work sometimes. There's it's a pile, there are
collisions that that's how the game is.
That was the dumbest. Honestly, that was the dumbest
thing I've ever heard. Just just.
We're we're, we're, we're. Approaching like level 10
stupidity, which there is plentyof it.

(48:23):
We've seen it, there's a there'sa social media exists, maybe I
think just for that perhaps. But like, my goodness, we don't,
we don't need to do this on on afour letter on the four letter
network too. Like there, there are at least
some people who are reasonable on the four letter network who I
could like tolerate listening tofor about 5 minutes.
And it's a short list, but it's like we can't.

(48:45):
It's the worst. Network out there, they're bad
for NFL and they're atrocious for college football.
But I will say, ever since your Greg Olsen crash out, I have
been terrified to mention any media people on this show 'cause
I have no idea how you're gonna gonna react.
None. I'm calm, JJ, I'm calm. 99% of

(49:07):
the time you are. I'm calm, JJ.
After your Greg Olson crashed out, I had no fewer than five
people reach out to me and say, was that a bit?
Was was Jake actually upset at you guys?
He was actually upset at me. No, this was a bit.
For sure. I think, I think the fact that
people thought it was a bit as good, so we should probably
continue the bit because we needrunning bits on this.

(49:29):
For the record. Running bit.
Off the air, although he didn't say anything like you didn't
deserve that or anything, Jake did apologize for how he did.
His reaction was, yeah, so just give him that credit, Iowa Joe

(49:52):
says. I think if Matthew Golden gets
his first touchdown against the Bears, JJ has to shave the beard
I think. It should be 3 touchdowns.
What? But hold on.
Explain this to me though, because when have I ever been a
Matthew Golden hater? Yeah, I don't, I don't think.
I'm not both sides. There is, there is.
Like Matthew Golden, I did not think when we picked him in the

(50:14):
first round he was not my numberone choice.
For same. First round pick, there were
guys Josh Simmons, who yes, clearly was the the smart, you
know, brain pick in the first round yes for the and we would
we would be lot. Better on having Justin's but.

(50:40):
I always said I liked Matthew Golden.
I always had a first round gradeon him and I celebrated when we
took him. OK, have I ever crapped on
Matthew Gold? Here's what I've crapped on.
Like I've totally done about FaceTime.
Marshawn Lloyd, like right? Like I liked Marshawn Lloyd as a
as a prospect. I said we should draft him in
the third round. I said that I want him cut.

(51:02):
At this point, I'm so over the Marshawn Lloyd experiment.
It's so dumb. How many times can the dude get
injured on injured reserve? He has more injuries than snaps
played. Honestly, NFL.
Honestly, I, I I think like that.
I chuckled when when the the whole like clarification of

(51:23):
like, yeah, this is a new one. This is a flare up from earlier.
I was just, I was cackling. I'm like you, you can't make
this up. What was over under?
We set 3 1/2. Games.
Played. Yeah, I think it was like 3.
And a half I smashed the under. You did, and it's just a
hilarious. Ball peen hammer.
Will will over under a half would have been perfect.

(51:45):
It is actually Brian. Hilarious bit.
Hold on a second hilarious bit. I'm scrolling back, Brian Mafi
said. I'm just here to derail the
chat. He said that.
While I was trying to read off Drew's dono and that was 7
minutes ago. Yeah, we should probably read
that. I'm going to do this because

(52:07):
Drew sent us 20 bucks. Oh wow.
So a woman of respect for for Drew Do.
We have. A quote I was waiting for the
sale paying them forward for others that want mocks.
And that's why Drew is a derailed Hall of Famer.
And we appreciate you Drew. We'll definitely do at.
Least. Two full mock drafts minimum, no

(52:31):
question, no matter what it takes, I think.
Based on our what the we have our banner in here that we're
the we show we have it in here for like OK, the custom mock
drafts, this is the set price, but we had the sale based on the
sale that's four, that's four full ones 4.
So hey, if they keep donating, wow, what's it?

(52:54):
We'll have to do even more. Here's.
Everybody's talking about like what are we doing to shave the
beards, all that stuff. First off, thank you, Drew.
Much appreciated. Do you?
Want to talk about what it wouldtake to get me to shave the
beard? I was going to say, I think I
think Musgrave catching the winning touchdown in the Super
Bowl is how I shave the beard. OK.
Or three touchdowns against the Bears.

(53:15):
You want you want it to happen. 3 touchdowns for him on on
Saturday. The I'll I will do it.
OK, that was probably the dumbest.
Commitment for you. It wouldn't take you at least
until Thursday, to grow that back again.
All eighth of them, very, very dumb thing to say.
It's funny because my family, myone family Christmas is Sunday.

(53:39):
So if that happens Saturday night, I have to come back here,
shave all of that sister the beard.
So I don't the stash is fine. We're good there.
We could, we can hang our hat onthat and do kind of the Rogers
thing he was doing back in the day with the stash.
We could try that. I've done it.
That's I'll, I'll, I'll lay it out there.

(54:00):
I'm not, I'm not taking it back.If it happens, fine.
I, I said back, I think after the Philly game that, you know,
if they were going to beat the Eagles, I would have got that
really funny looking hat And if they won the Super Bowl without
Kraft, that I would bring some column makeup, put it on and
then wear a Musgrave jersey. I think we're safe.

(54:21):
I think we're safe from that at this point, so.
There you go, IO, Joe said. See Mafia.
That's how you properly derail adiscussion.
I I do, I do actually have a a standing thing.
For well done Joe, Well done. Well done you.
Did so I I I've lost 50 lbs in the past year and so I'm now 35

(54:45):
lbs away from my shaved beard goal.
I use. The final 35 I will shave the
beard. There we go.
That's that's going to be my my celebration.
Love it. We got another dono.
This is for. Chris, I'm trying to figure if
it's Chris the casual one. Probably it is.

(55:08):
Wait a minute. I see.
I don't. I don't.
Chris, you guys tell me in the chat if you want me to say this
out loud. I see on Venmo what the N in
Chris the casual N actually stands for.
So you'll tell me if you want meto read this out loud or not.
This might be private information for you but now I

(55:30):
know. He says mocks for the trenches.
Signed Chris the casual and he don't owed 10 bucks so we are.
We are staring down the barrel of a lot of mock drafts tonight.
No, we can't. No, no, no, no, no.

(55:53):
For this sake case, shave the eyebrows if Nixon gets a pick
six. No, no, we can't do that.
Not not on Bear's. Wing never shave the eyebrows.
Never. Not doing that on Bear's wing.
He already, he already picked off the Bears once.
He just has to. He just has to do it and be
running. If he gets ahead of Steve on a
pick, nobody's catching him. He's been a returner.
He was an All pro returner. No, that's we can't.

(56:13):
He's absolutely cannot do that. We absolutely gotta do that.
That's there's that's way too easy.
Have you? Seen.
Have you seen his? Pick six against Chicago, Yeah,
but Rasul Douglas has a pick sixagainst.
Chicago. Well, yeah, 'cause Chicago
stinks. That's.
What I mean this is it's too easy.
You keep you keep changing the goal, though.
Like sometimes you say we're shaving something, blah, blah

(56:36):
blah. If something happens in the
Super Bowl and then you turn around and you say in the Bears
game, so which is it? No, no, I said, I said normally.
Normally, you know, the Super Bowl thing was probably is
probably a wiser thing to do, right?
That's probably the wiser thing to say, especially because we

(56:57):
know Musgraves playing this week.
But I, I saved, I said 3 touchdowns.
If he scores 3 times Saturday, Iwill.
I'll do it for sure. There's been two times.
Worth it? There's no way to If Musgraves
scored three times, the Bears did not win.
They didn't win there's. No chance, curls.
There's no way because they willhave also scored in other ways

(57:19):
for Musgrave to have gotten opened so many Dang times so.
Mafia says I'll just get AI degenerate a pic of you guys
without beards. AI might do a better job than
just our listeners finding photos out in the wild of people
who think look like us. We've been, and I think Brian

(57:40):
actually was one of the people who sent us somebody they
thought looked like me. When people send me pictures of
people who look like me and there are people out there in
the wild who I do think look like me.
But when people. Send me pictures of people that
they think look like me. I don't get it at all, man.
I really don't. Yeah.

(58:04):
That's hard because there's thiswhole thing of like, the way you
perceive yourself, right? Looking in the mirrors isn't
exactly what other people see, which is just like, not a great
thought. I don't like thinking about
that. Here's I'll show you.
This is the. This is the one dude.
Come on camera. Fix yourself.
Here we go. This is the one dude who I do

(58:26):
think looks like me. OK, All right.
This is Josh Radner specificallywith a beard.
Interesting. Oh, shoot.
I must share my screen. Here we go.
Back studies show that. All right, Josh Radnor
specifically with a beard. The full beard, yeah, they're
not like. I do think this.

(58:47):
Looks like me. That's yeah, that's pretty good.
Now with a little tight beard being as long as it is right
now. It's harder to tell.
But if I were to pull up some pictures of me back when my
beard was like this length, which I'm not gonna do right
now, maybe I'll bring those for a future episode.

(59:07):
You guys donate enough, we'll doit.
We get to 1 K Subs. Come on, that's.
What we'll do 1K Subs? 1K Subs.
Seems easy to me. Just tell a few people, have
them tell a few people, then everybody's doing it.
It it makes sense, you know. To over this is whining, he
says. JJ didn't have a problem reading
my last name on the show. Chris is telling people in the

(59:33):
chat that his last name is Nixon.
According to Venmo, it's Nichols.
So now he's Chris the casual nickel, which like, I'm no Javon
Bullard hater, but I would try out Chris at nickel.
I would do it. Why not?
Yeah. Appreciate you tool for this,

(59:55):
Brian Muffy says. Joking aside, Congrats on the
lost weight, JJ Thank you. There's less of me to love now,
but I I think that's OK. Wait a minute, could I pull off?
Just a big mustache and muck chops.
Look, look at that. That's interesting.
Would that look good on me? Oh man.

(01:00:16):
Wait. This is the one.
Whoa. Do you want this as your podcast
Co host? He got the soul patch.
He's got almost a full handle onmoustache but not quite.
And the muck jobs I'm. In.
I I mean, count me in. Oh, what a stud.

(01:00:38):
Look at that. Count.
Me. This is what I could look like
if I just go ahead and lose the final 35 lbs and didn't
celebrate by shaving the beard. Fun fact, met my wife, I was
clean shaven, grew the beard. Now I'm not allowed to shave it.
According to her, whenever I talk about shaving it, she's

(01:00:58):
like, you better not you will not shave it, Justin says only
if you wear the shirt with it. This this shirt or previous one,
I think it's this one that that shirt.
I could pull that shirt off. My muscles might be too big to
fit in it, but that's a cool shirt.
The rest of it on that Oh. That's.

(01:01:21):
Interesting. That's interesting.
This is giving. I like this.
What's? Yes.
What's the guy's name in my nameIs Earl.
Can never remember. Remember his first name.
Yeah, well, no, forget it, Carl or something.
Carl. Is that right?

(01:01:42):
Derschel says JJ could easily pull off the mutton chops.
This looks like slightly also like Oh gosh from Anchorman.
Oh yeah, yeah. Paul Rudd's character.
Yeah. What's his name?

(01:02:04):
Brian Fontana. Yeah, there we go.
Brian Fontana. Brian Fontana.
That's how you said, Brian. Fontana, get a little bit of
that action. There we go.
Oh my gosh. Oh, look, it's right.
You did the full picture, but it's right.
Paul did it. For fro thing too.
I don't remember this. I don't.
Either. They need to make an Anchorman

(01:02:25):
3. Anchorman 2 was not that good,
but they need to make an Anchorman 3.
They might as well complete the trilogy for fun.
All right. I will say though.
Surprised we haven't done the. The part of Anchorman 2 that
will forever live in my brain iswhen this is super long scene,
super long conversation they're having in the RV And then

(01:02:48):
finally, I think Paul Rudd's character is like, hey, who's
driving this thing? Yeah.
And and he's like, yeah, don't worry about it.
I put it on cruise control. No, that's the funniest thing.
The funniest thing is I rememberthat very vividly because of a
few of my high school buddies. We went to see this and I
remember when that scene startedabout 7 seconds after that was
going one of my buddies. I look at each other, both say

(01:03:09):
the same time. OK so who's?
Who's driving the car? And they're just sitting there
laughing about giggling about that the whole time of like,
what are they going to actually say something about about that?
Yeah. That was that very memorable.
I believe he got hurt. He lost his sight for like a ice
skating accident, I think. Is that right?
I'm pretty sure. I think that's.

(01:03:31):
Right, I can't remember. I've seen Anchorman 1 like.
I think that's 10. Times I've seen Anchorman 2.
Once. But yeah, I think there's
something like that, but. The other best part of Anchorman
1 is when he takes Veronica out for a date and he goes to this
this club and, and the club owner's like, Hey, do you want

(01:03:54):
to play a song for us? He's like, Oh my God, I
couldn't. I'm so unprepared.
And he whips a jazz out of his sleeve, like as he's saying, I'm
so unprepared so. Unprepared.
That is good, I like that. I did a brick impression for
years until until I retired it, but the.

(01:04:16):
Heck is not on my. Stinking camera but staring at
my tummy. So annoying.
Told us that said Ron Burgundy should be glad Jack Black, not
Daniel Whelan punted Baxter off a bridge.
Oh, Daniel Whelan in Anchorman, is that the title?

(01:04:37):
About Jacqueline. Is this the title of our live
stream? Maybe.
Drew says which offensive lineman do we let go?
Well, we can't get rid of Aaron Banks yet.
And if we did? I mean, we can't the Twitter.
Dunker's been mad. Just not it wouldn't wouldn't be
fun. Justin says camera malfunction

(01:05:01):
JJ casually flexing his weight loss.
I said I want to lose 35 more pounds.
Guess where it lives in the tum tum two over that says Walker.
Hey, Jordan Morgan is not starting for us right now.
Stick his butt over at left tackle where it belongs.
I've seen enough of she'd not why she'd I had it up to here

(01:05:26):
with the with the penalties put Jordan Morgan out there at left
tackle. Yeah, Dirchell knows.
Take says too old for this. What will?
I take for Morgan to get played at left tackle.
I don't know because. Probably a new offensive line
coach. Apocalypse Brick.
Where'd you get the hand grenade?

(01:05:49):
Trident, futuristic gun and all of that stuff.
At the end of Anchorman 1, they're they do this like, you
know what happened afterwards? Like where are they now?
And when they're talking about brick, I always thought that
they they're like describing like, so you get the line where

(01:06:12):
Steve grows like years later, a doctor will discover I have an
IQ of 80 or something like that,right?
I'm not going to mention the line, but he's talking about
like all the kids he has says something about like he goes on
to have a career in politics or something.
I always thought that they were making a joke about Brick being

(01:06:36):
George W Bush. Oh.
Interesting. And I say that as someone who
remembers W kind of fondly. Was that video have you seen
have you seen the clip? It keeps making the rounds right
now of of him golfing. And what did he say?

(01:06:56):
Not watch his? Drive.
Not watch his drive. It's.
Yeah, it's something like we will.
We won't rest until we defeat terrorism.
Now watch this drive. It's something like that I know
about. Watch this, I got it right here.
Gosh, that's that's hysterical. Call upon all nations to do

(01:07:18):
everything they can. Stinkin can you?
Can you hear it? Is it playing the audio to?
Do everything to stop these terrorist killers.
Thank you. Now watch this drive.
Now watch this drive. Yes.
Straight down the middle. I don't know what the narrator

(01:07:41):
I. Didn't know.
Wow. I didn't know, Bush said that.
I didn't know. W said that after he swung.
Oh. Man, maybe this is better.
It's it's it's on YouTube. Can I?
It's the fool he wants. Please tell me you have the fool
he was. That.
What is? Well, this is just the.
Exact same same clip, but hopefully they'll call.

(01:08:06):
Upon all nations. To do everything they can to
stop these terrorist killers. Now watch this drive.
It's. It's really good.
Yeah, that. Fool me once, golf guys.
Easily my favorite. That would be a quote of all
time, but now watch this drive is probably #2.

(01:08:30):
Never been fooled again. This wasn't really a speaking
moment, but when the shoe got thrown at him, that was.
That was a very memorable, memorable deal.
But yeah, that oh man, some goodstuff there.
To over that, says Bush. Yeah, that's true.

(01:08:50):
As well as Kim Jong Un. Presidents may golf, but they've
never been as good as him setting that nice course record
of 18. Drew says we should see if Kim
Jong Un is. Every.
Scramble team ever who's won a scramble in the last several
years. It's like, yeah, we shot 46, OK.

(01:09:15):
Very, very similar. Similar deals there.
Drew said we should see if Rasheed Walker can play right
tackle if Tom is out. First of all, anything to get.
I have a hard time imagining howswitching positions for Rasheed
is going to result in fewer procedural penalties for.
Us, but we just got to get Morgan on the field, so whatever

(01:09:37):
it takes. OK, just got to get who would
you rather have it right tackle Darian Kennard over an out of
position? Yes, obviously Kennard is right.
But we, JJ, we got to. We got to do.
Whatever it takes to get Jordan Morgan at left tackle.
So I know, but if we, you're forgetting who our offensive
line coaches, if that's it, we can do that.

(01:09:58):
Listen. Settle for the procedural
penalties. I just want to see him get some
reps at left tackle. This is not what's going to
happen though. I understand that, but.
We need to listen, listen. Kennard needs to stay the right
tackle because if Canard is not the right tackle, if we even put
a whisper of that out into the universe, Buckets is going to

(01:10:22):
put Morgan at right tackle instantly.
You have to account for stupidity, pain.
You have to account for this. Pain.
So it's true we did, we did talkabout the four letter network.
We have to account for it. So we should probably.
You're right, you're right. Tool for the night dream is
Morgan, left guard Tom, right guard Kennard.

(01:10:44):
Kennard what? What do you got against Shawn?
Ryan, man, he's. Putting, Yeah.
Ball in it. What's wrong?
Shawn Ryan has been the best center we've had for at least 5
minutes. OK.
Chris. Said Shawn Ryan is one of.
Jordan Morgan has never been played at the only position
we've said he can play. Sean Marion, OK, is one of the

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centers of all time Packers history.
OK, So he is one of them. So you know, I'm I'm the Jordan
Morgan. I mean, obviously I would love
to have Tom that left tackle, but this team would have to the
team needs to work on this thingthat JJ and I have talked about

(01:11:32):
called drafting guards. You know, I, I feel like if if I
was given, you know, that that would be interesting if if Ed
Palsy hosted like, you know, interviews for the offseason of
fans just to see what they wouldsay.
Like, can can anyone give me an elevator pitch on the offseason?

(01:11:52):
What needs to happen? They just have fans come in and
give their like, quick elevator pitch.
Literally, I have. I have the literally.
I would do I mine would be 11 seconds walk in I is it a
whiteboard? Do we think it's a whiteboard or
a blackboard? Probably whiteboard.
Probably don't use chalk as much.
Before 30 seconds. OK, no, I don't want you to

(01:12:13):
squander. I'm squandering.
I'm squandering. Could be pitching additional
ways to benefit the Packers. I think it's just, I think you
have to give one pitch. I think you have to give us one
top. What you have to like, hone it
on one thing. One, I'll walk it on the I'll
walk into the whiteboard. It's just I'll walk it into the
whiteboard. I'm I'm writing in all caps
draft guards and I'm dropping the marker and I'm walking out

(01:12:37):
and that's it. You don't have the the people
who get into too much of the word salad big monologue thing.
I feel like it's probably. We still won't have any corners
if you do this, my boy. I don't, yeah, that's fine.
I'm not the corner thing, you know, You know, if if you play
on a round field, there are no corners anyway, so that's fine,
right? So baseball, simple geometry,

(01:12:59):
simple geometry. There are no corners out there
anyway so I just need draft guards.
All caps He's like spazzing out.Draft guards all caps.
That's all I got for you and I dropped the marker and walk out.
It was it was so simple and hopefully so effective.
That's it. Yes.

(01:13:20):
Then you can come in and say draft corners and or.
Or. Draft draft for need.
Also when the the the class at the position you need is good,
that would be helpful too. Right?
That would be a nice pitch as well.
Well, I, I gotta man, I need a minute to we're gonna have to
come back to mine because I forgot what mine was like.

(01:13:42):
I had, I had two things queued up and I forgot like the more
important of the two that was actually like football related.
So I'm gonna I'm gonna need to come back to that.
We'll have to circle back on this one.
We should probably start doing more drafts right now.
Otherwise, well, we should, but I, I have a question for you.
So I did not rewatch this game because I didn't want to, but I

(01:14:06):
noticed I think this was somebody there was somebody was
hurt. Maybe it was Zach.
Tom and I look at the screen andthere's a dude and he's wearing
61, but he's standing out there in the field and his name is
Jacob Monk. And I'm like Jacob Monk was play

(01:14:31):
the heck. He's staying out late in the
middle of the field. Not like over on the sideline.
He's dressed, has his helmet on.He's out in the middle of the
field. I go to PFF after the great
game. I look at snap counts.
Jacob Monk 0 snaps played in this game.
So I, I don't even, I don't wantto go back and watch the game.

(01:14:51):
Did you see Jacob Monk out thereat any point?
Because he was absolutely staying out there.
Listen, I while we're waiting tosort out this injury.
Listen, I I don't, I don't thinkso.
Shots fired from Mafi. No good Iowa offensive lineman
in this class. Wow.

(01:15:13):
It's messed up, sounds like a bigger Iowa hater than me and
it's hard to find people like that.
I don't think I saw him, but again, Jji was super numb after
number one was down. I just, I kind of like, again, I

(01:15:34):
don't remember a lot from the game.
After that. I think Michael Bandy scored a
couple plays after that injury, right?
And I was like, oh, I didn't realize Michael Bandy was in the
league still in playing. I figured he just kind of
withered away like Andy Isabelladid after he was driven by the
Cardinals. I feel like he just withered

(01:15:55):
away. Apparently not.
Yeah. So that's.
That's no when when when Bandy scored and they started talking
about him, I was like Gandalf and I was like, I have no
recollection of that name. Right.
Been so long since I heard his name.
I genuinely brain dumped everything I ever knew about

(01:16:15):
that guy. Name didn't even ring a bell for
me anymore. Yeah, that that was kind of wild
to see that honestly, I could that was that was jarring for
sure. So yeah, the so the monk, if he
was out there, did he have snapsor do we have like?

(01:16:37):
A0 snaps according to PFF. Oh, OK.
So that's. It's fair.
I'm still annoyed that I cannot remember.
I still cannot remember. That's an earworm.
It'll come back to you. I have to, so I'll do the one I

(01:16:59):
can remember, OK, which is the Packers need to create a website
where you can get verified as a Packer fan.
You have to provide some proof. And this website is for Packers
ticket holders to resell their tickets to only registered

(01:17:24):
Packer fans. There's plenty of Packer fans
who want to go to games, and we can't have these freaking
Detroit Lions and Chicago Bears fans packing the stadium just
because all the old people thinkit's too cold out and they want
to sit at home that week. Yeah, it's true.

(01:17:48):
Entering the draft here. This first mock draft is
sponsored by Drew. Can can we duel?
Does that count as two if we do mock drafts?
Because I have the simulator up.But we can't share 2 screens at
the same time though. Yeah, but you could share parts.
Of two screens at the same. Time.

(01:18:11):
We can go back and forth. We can go back and forth.
I will tell you I will not be doing the toggling because I get
frustrated. I was just trying to put one
screen up. I'll do it if you want to do
that. I'll do the toggling.
And if enough people in the chatstart complaining about it,
giving them a headache, you got to stop Iowa Joe, who's not

(01:18:32):
biased at all when it comes to Iowa football, says nobody
listened to Mafi. He has no clue.
What the heck he's talking about?
Tool over that says you should do a Cowboys mock check
something. Did anyone say that that's.
OK, I don't see any donos from too old for this.
So we're doing a. Cowboys mock.

(01:18:54):
Right now, so too old for this, has two options.
He could donate or convince someone who has donated that one
of them should be a Cowboys mock.
There you go. I'm starting my mock draft here,
all right, with my with my firstpick, I am drafting half a
season of Michael Parsons. I'm so dumb.

(01:19:15):
So he was Fernando Mendoza, the first overall player taken.
Let's see. Oh, I did a Bach the other day
and it was bad that I didn't take Ty Simpson.
At Ruben Bayne won overall. Don't hate that Mafia hates
that. Arvel Reese number two overall.
By the way, where would you takeArvel Reese?
Because I think it's wild hearing people say he's going to

(01:19:35):
be the first non quarterback taken.
You dig him? Three overall.
Yeah. So behind who?
Fernando. Behind let's see I would take
kill downs 1st and then love 2ndand our.
Jeremiah Love. Yeah.

(01:19:56):
You would take running back at #2 overall.
In this class, yeah, probably I.Hate it, hate it.
And I love Jeremiah, love I. I'm not taking a first round
running back. Ever.
I'm also not taking a first round.
If I had no. Players all linebacker.
Ever. Now, Arvel Reese, you're

(01:20:17):
drafting to be an edge rusher. That's different.
I would probably be doing that and having him, you know,
moonlight coverage looks at times and yeah, I if I would
take Parsons in, yes, 100% Michael Parsons or what people
thought. I guess what people thought
maybe thought Jalen Walker coulddo a little bit.

(01:20:40):
You know, the Georgia guy. Oh, the Falcons took at 15.
And maybe you think of that a little bit.
But I do think like Sonny Stylesis outrageously good and the
Cowboys at pick, where are they right now?
Just like 13 or 12 or somewhere in there Should not hesitate to
pick him if he is available. Have I?

(01:21:02):
Have I said before, by the way, on this podcast?
Maybe. How funny it is to me that we've
all clowned the movie draft day for all these years for the
number one overall pick being anoff ball linebacker from Ohio
State and now this year all the draft analysts are saying Arvel

(01:21:27):
Reese give me the first non quarterback taken.
I have a super big bone to pick with people calling Vonte back a
off ball linebacker when all of the highlights on film that they
showed in that movie were him asa literal edge rusher.
Like what are you talking about?Like I don't know.
Like he's literally like basically Nick Benito.
I'm just repeating. What the narrative?

(01:21:47):
I know, I, I know I just when people say off ball linebacker,
I I want to, I want to scream because I'm like, Oh yeah, he's
definitely lining off the ball when they watch the film.
Hilarious. Here, Apham says.
Can we please have a moment for Luke Musgrave?
I did see at the beginning of the chat, back before we started

(01:22:08):
putting chats on screen, somebody was talking about like,
hey, Musgrave can't stand on hisfeet, but he was making some
great grabs. When I was, I told my wife like
3 games ago, I said I don't think Luke Musgrave has ever
made an NFL catch in his career where he didn't promptly fall

(01:22:28):
down like no matter what. And so she's been watching since
then and noticing like, Yep, every single time they throw the
ball at him, he falls down whether he catches or not.
He hits the dirt every single time.
This past game he did have one catch where he stayed on his
feet and and two where he. Hit the dirt.

(01:22:50):
I forget if he had more catches than that or more targets than
that, but he had. I remember vividly 3 different
targets he had, one of which he didn't catch and did hit the
ground. One of them he did catch it and
hit the ground, and then one of them he did catch it and didn't
hit the ground and we were like you.

(01:23:11):
Didn't hit the ground. It's crazy.
Yeah. Tool for this says Musgrave.
Sucks but redacted. Can't read the rest of your
comment, sorry. Let's see here.
And then Durschel wants to know where is that San Diego State

(01:23:33):
quarterback projected to go? So this is Chris Johnson we're
talking about. Yes, you and I love Chris.
Johnson. That's what we're talking about.
I love both Chris Johnsons the Oh my gosh, where's my running
back play? Is it Kentucky?
Why can I not remember where my running back Chris Johnson
plays? We've talked about it in like 7

(01:23:53):
different episodes now. Is it Kentucky?
I think it's Kentucky. Yeah.
It ain't UConn before you say something, Tool for this, by the
way, Tool for this. Congrats on getting Jason Candle
to lead your college football team.
Feels a little bit like a lateral move to me coming from

(01:24:13):
Toledo to UConn. Just not really where I think
anybody was expecting him to go.But tool for this is that CJ2K's
son I'm old and I'm only 32. So the running back is is his
son, the cornerback is not. All right, who have you?

(01:24:42):
Who have you picked? Good Sir.
Because I have finished my draft.
Happy for you. All right, so with my first pick
in the second round, pick 55, Austin and Sarah, there's some
tackles here, yes, Don't really need a quarterback.

(01:25:07):
You may only call on me twice. What's he gonna do, Chad?
What's he, what's he gonna do? What's what do we think that JJ
wants to do? Well, you know what I'm doing.
We're stocking up the interior of the defensive line.
All right, that's. What we gotta do first?

(01:25:29):
I can't spend the entire year B wording about the defensive
tackle and cornerback rooms and that and guard and then not
address them in the draft. Brendan Sorsby.
I don't know, it seems easy. Bro, he's not in this draft
class. Get out of here.
He's in. The transfer.
Portal. No final decisions.

(01:25:50):
He's in the transfer portal, Mane.
Oh, McNeil Warren is right there.
You don't really need a safety, but he's such a freaking good
player. 5050 are we taking McNeil Warren?
Are we taking John back to here?Oh, don't.
No, don't do this. I'm kidding.
Don't get it? Chris and I had a nice

(01:26:15):
conversation the other day about1 Jacob Rodriguez from Texas.
Rodriguez Well, I mean, look, itdoesn't take Let's talk me into
a Texas Tech. Click on it Defensive Player.
Click for fun, Click for glory. I'm doing it.
All right. Holy for holies.
Yes, yes indeed. Two touchdowns allowed and four

(01:26:40):
interceptions. You get to watch.
I've never seen at least. Once more, at least once more,
you get to watch him. Two.
Yeah, we get to see him. New Year's Eve.
Here's Eve. Is that the one that one is?
I don't. There's one on New Year's Eve
and there's I think 3 New Year'sDay, so I don't remember which
it is, but will JJD? Oh heck, I want this.

(01:27:04):
Yeah, I do. Yeah, you do.
Where's where's their estimate of his size 61230?
Five. Yeah, you.
Do and he's a senior 61235. How do you feel about a six one
linebacker? I'm not asking about the weight,
I'm asking about the height. Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm lukewarm.

(01:27:27):
I think it's fine. 235 if that'sreal, I hate it and I understand
you're not going to find a 250 guy.
Anymore, it's probably not real,but you're probably not going to
like it. But but maybe not, maybe not
Maybe he bolts up. There have been guys who have
done that where we've looked at it and then they you get those

(01:27:48):
results in and they're, they're both and they know they need to
be. I will simply just take Sonny
Styles instead of this guy, all right?
Well, yeah, that'd be nice. You'd need You will be my third
ground pick. You need a top 50.
Sonny Styles win that third ground pick.
Zaki Wheatley. Yeah, it's.
Closer to going to 3rd than round three I fear.

(01:28:09):
Nick Singleton missed me with that.
No. Where's Katron at?
Katron's been taken already because he's actually a good
football. Player that makes sense.
That's fair of. Course he has.
I'm interested to see if JJ and I draft any of the same players
that. Chad.
I need. How many?
How many do y'all think we're going to draft the same number

(01:28:29):
of players? Do you have a good question?
Can I ask you a question? Did you did you try to avoid
taking guys you've taken 1000 times in?
This no, no then. We're going to probably have at
least one guy that's just saying, OK, let's see.
Oh yeah, freaking SMU. Thank you.

(01:28:51):
Kentucky SMU, Thank you. Yeah.
The tool for this is take Arch, man.
He's the only player I know. He's going back to the school,
as is every quarterback in this class except for Fernando
Mendoza. Do we know what Tie Simpson is
going back? I feel like he might.
It seems like at. Least at the.

(01:29:12):
Very least, again, that that could be wrong.
Maybe he thinks this is best chance.
Everybody's going back, you know, could, you know, could I
get more money going with this group?
Probably and and maybe takes hischance.
And maybe that's what Moore thinks as well.

(01:29:33):
I mean there's a chance it's a 2QB to be class but you know.
It's a stinky class. I have liked Fernando Mendoza
since before the season began asmy number one overall pick and I
just don't. I, I I want to play a fun game
with Mafia here who's chilling every prediction he has.
I'm writing them all down. Don't do no.

(01:29:58):
We're getting percentages. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
All right, Brian, you say sores,Brendan's doing it.
You're getting 4 mil in the portal.
He did it. How many?
He's throwing the takes out we gotta.
How many portal will Brian, where is Aiden Chiles gonna end
up? That's no.
Good Iowa Online. Drew, says Schlesinger from last

(01:30:22):
year. It looks like a stud.
No, it doesn't look like a stud.He is a stud.
He's fantastic. He was small.
He's 242 at the Combine. Not very small man. 242 which is
why we liked him. Yeah, Mafi says.
He was in the two 40s at the combine, which is as big as
you're ever going to get at linebacker.

(01:30:42):
Except for Campbell. In the mid twenty 20s all right
listen, I'm not taking Skylar Gil Howard because I'm telling
you he's not going to the NFL this year.
He's going back to school zero shot.
He goes to the NFL this year all.
Right. Think I've got all of his

(01:31:03):
predictions want. To.
Make sure because we can circle back because Brian's Brian's got
a good handle on it. So I want to make sure we have
that circle back. I'm.
Calling. I appreciate the convenience of
how PFFS simulator works and that you can just click and get
the card blah blah blah. I appreciate the convenience.

(01:31:24):
Yeah. And yet you're still relying on.
What a lot. Of a lot of PFF grades in that
and then like size estimates andstuff.
Take him, shout out Brian. Age estimates and everything,
what did you say? As a shout out to Brian, take
Brian. Brian Parker.
Yeah. Did I take him?

(01:31:44):
That's really the question. We're taking him here.
Did I take Brian Parker? So you've picked 2 guys, right?
I like correctly. Corleone and and Brian Parker,
right? Those are two picks.
Yeah, it's not a very creative draft.
Sure. I don't think I think he is

(01:32:06):
confirmed he's going back, right.
Pure Alexander. Pretty sure Brian, you got me on
that. Pretty sure he says he's going
back to. Oregon Joe Royer.
Former Ohio State tight end. Oh man, how do you say this
guy's name? Familiar name Bubakar Treori I.
Think that's pretty close. That's a good name.
Parker is center of the future. There you go.
Yeah, we are definitely draftinghim.

(01:32:27):
I after I I've got a good handle.
I've actually watched quite a bit of Parker to this point.
He he, when you watch him against Clemson, it's very clear
that like the length of those guys, the arm length, he cannot
handle it very well. He struggles to do so.
So it does feel like a perfect if if if they're not sold on
Ryan, they don't want to bring him back or they want to bring

(01:32:48):
him back to play guard like Brian Parker for center like it.
I do like that cerebral athleticcombination.
Bear is going back. OK.
Can you confirm? Did you pull yours off for?
I'm trying to share a different window and it keeps.

(01:33:09):
Stupid. With me for some reason.
And this was was. Turned out to be a big, big guy.
I wanted to look at Mr. Bubicor Treori and actually look at he
had played five games this year.Jeepers.
Oh, that's why. All right, Primus. 9 pressures

(01:33:30):
on 65 pass rush attempts, so that's nice.
That's a that's a decent pass rush percentage career 40.
Well, I don't care about it. So we got 40 pressures on 350

(01:33:52):
attempts in the last two years. Decent ish.
I mean it wasn't such a stinkingsmall sample size.
I'd be more interested and this so the other the other page said
that he's a sophomore, sophomore.

(01:34:17):
How's he in this draft class? That's what I want to know.
Put me on the record as I don't think this dude's going to be in
the draft this year, but like let's watch next year.
Color me intrigue for next year.Yeah, I like what I see in PFF

(01:34:37):
of this guy. Sure.
I think the only Notre Dame games I watched this year were
just the first two, Miami and A&M.
But those are the ones that. Watch the games of Notre Dame
this year. Those are the ones that matter,
JJ. Those were the big games.
I'm just saying, you know, no dude, slave, I think you're
right. How many snaps again did we say?

(01:35:00):
470 We. Played 500 snaps, 300 pass rush
snaps. I'll have to start watching this
guy. I got a feeling man.
I got a feeling vibe. Brian says he's likely going
back. Richard's sophomore makes sense.
Yeah. Feel like.
I've had a tool that says Dave Ham runs his own fan club.
I don't know what that's in reference to, but that's Jacob

(01:35:24):
and Brian. Wait, Brian is Brian Maffey?
Who the heck is Jacob? Jake, are you?
Are you the Jacob he's talking? About maybe?
Boba T. Fans.
I don't like boba tea, but I I think I like boba Carr.
OK, you. Know.
FF got to watch them on on the tape on them YouTube highlight.

(01:35:49):
Reels grind the tape. YouTube highlight reels.
Don't give yourself a subscription.
Albert Regis. I think that I think the Bach I
did counts for as part of the the bundle.
The mock draft bundle that was. Bought, but you're waiting until

(01:36:09):
mine is done to to share it, right?
Yeah, yeah, OK. Of course, again, it's Kyle Gill
Howard knocking me in this draftclass, so I'm not going to draft
I. Like him?
Yeah, I agree with the. Draft of next year it would have
actually in the draft. Too chaotic, but we will do that
snake draft thing at some point.I think maybe with a guest could
be fun. You know, JJ, that three person

(01:36:31):
snake draft mock draft thing where you can't pick him if he's
gone? Yeah, we've done a lot of those
people. Bring Brian on her.
I would go to Brian, maybe Chris.
Chris would be good. We we could do it with a bunch
of people. Well, we, you and I have.
Said a bunch of times. This offseason we are going to

(01:36:53):
do a live stream with Derschel and Toole for this on there.
We'll do a four way yes podcast split screen with the four of us
for one episode. So Dershowl and Tool for this.
You have been alerted this is going to happen this offseason.
AFM is calling my guy Booby car.I like it.

(01:37:15):
Booby car Treyori. I I don't.
Mafia says Regis is a fun playerbut day three guy.
It luckily it is day three rightnow on this mock.
That's really good news. Freaking Ethan Onianwa.
Ed. Convinced of ADP of 231 so.

(01:37:37):
This. Is absurd.
So I'm also like, I'm convinced that like they obviously just to
the simulator, they add the big school guys at like most
positions and. Then who the heck is drafting
Ethan Onianwa? I mean, he's, he's got an ADP of
231. So he he's going in the mocks.
Has anyone have users picked him?

(01:37:58):
That's a that's a more interesting question.
Tell me a thing about Ethan Onianwa that we can't see on the
screen right now. Tell me a thing about him.
He played OK this year. No, he didn't play this year.

(01:38:21):
Didn't play, he didn't 0 snaps. Like 5 snaps.
That's he played. He was barely played.
He barely played. He barely.
Played awful on all 5. Can you click on him?
Big portal guy from Duke Click. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, 96.

(01:38:43):
I wonder though. Let's see here.
How many were in like the Grambling game?
That's really a good question. Probably most of them.
Probably. Most of them.
Then he got, then he got some, then then JJ got some late in
the year. This is looking like he might
have been in relief. Ohio So here's the situation

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Ohio State does not have. He played the.
Established right guard they most of the year they played
Tegra shabbola at right guard. Who was the right guard last
year? Tegra has been like textbook
inconsistent and so they've tried to replace him with Josh

(01:39:24):
Padilla, who can't stay healthy.They tried to replace him with
Gabe Van Sickle. Who?
Has been kind of OK in Pass Bro,not great in Pass bro, and then
atrocious in in run blocking. Gabe Van Sickle has not managed

(01:39:46):
to unseat Decker yet. Izid Oneanwa kind of snuck into
that right guard rotation a bit.Ethan was a big time and big
time means. Got paid a lot of money transfer
from Rice. He was the starting left tackle
at Rice a year ago. Very good though.

(01:40:08):
Couldn't remotely hack it when he came to Ohio State.
Ohio State got 2 tackles in the portal this year.
Phillip Daniels from Minnesota. Has been the entrenched right
tackle all year, kind of been upand down.
Ethan Oniano was supposed to be the plug and play left tackle
and he got a lot of money to come to Columbus.

(01:40:33):
Has not been able to get on the field and people are taking this
guy in mock drafts. This is wild to me.
Just wild. Well.
How'd you like a six foot 5 centre?
Wasn't that Josh Myers Height 65311 red shirt senior Pat

(01:40:59):
Coogan at a Indiana. All right, we're doing this.
Davion Carter in the fifth round.

(01:41:23):
Oh my God, Drew Aller. Do.
It do. It.
Drew Aller. Yes.
We do need a new long snapper, dear Shelton Trinidad Chambliss
O'Hara Perkins. Yeah, yummy.

(01:41:44):
Look at that Jayden Greathouse though.
I'm always done. Jayden Greathouse.
Wow, stinky year. Like I said, I have not been
watching Notre Dame this year. Apparently he's hurt apparently.
First I've heard of it because Ihaven't been watching them.

(01:42:15):
I have finished the second mock draft.
Dersha said did JJ just purr? I don't remember why I've heard
but I remember that I did per a fan says maybe you should up
your meds. This is probably true.
All right. How many picks do you have left?
Three, OK. I got 3 picks left.

(01:42:37):
I've taken Oscar Dollop here, yes.
I still haven't taken any corners.
You know, it'll be interesting. That's because we're going,
we're going all in on corner in free agency this year.
We are trading Luke Musgrave andRomeo Dobbs for one starting

(01:43:00):
corner and then we're going to go pay a second starting corner.
That's the that's what we're doing.
Oh, Lee Hunter. Oh, I've always loved Lee
Hunter. Screw it.
I'm doing it. Do it.
I'm not not doing it. You're telling me that in the

(01:43:23):
sixth round I'm going to find a cornerback who's a slam dunk
better than Lee Hunter? Get out my face.
Oh Josh Moton, little guy. But I.
Don't think we have any crossovers yet.

(01:43:49):
If I'm not mistaken, I don't think we have any.
Ethan Oniano just went. Look at that.
Ethan Oniano just went in the 7th row.
I don't think all right. We don't.
We don't. So let's all right, or Leone.
So there's Parker, Carter, Delp,Hunter, Moton.
Put yours on screen now. Chris Johnson, Julian Neil.

(01:44:15):
I've said this name so many times and now my brain is
blanking. Ian Torch.
Yeah. Cage, Casey, Rayshawn, Benny and
Lulu. I thought about Lululu in the
sixth round. There you go.
There's there's a mock. You know, this is the a
aggressive corner, aggressive old line, Fox draft.

(01:44:38):
Getting Chris Johnson 55 feels probably unattainable at this
juncture, but you're not your right tackle cage Casey, maybe
that that, you know, do the Green Bay thing.
Hey, let's convert this guy to guard and see how it goes.
And then a true center. So we drafted this is the this
is a very Green Bay. Hey, we'll take the tackles,

(01:45:00):
maybe they're guards type of thing.
And then get the hammer out corner 2 new starters, enjoy the
bench outside quarters. Let's get him out there for some
reps and then let's do this for Fonzies.
Brian said that tackle Brian Parker and guard Davey and

(01:45:24):
Carter are both playing center in the NFL.
Do you know that? Oh, we got we.
Need. So let's see your second one.
So Zion Young, I don't know. I haven't watched Zion Young
very closely. Can't comment on that.
Basantis. I almost took Basantis.
Only Muhammad, obviously a fan favorite of ours.

(01:45:45):
IGB in the fifth round. I would think, baby, I would
think he's going to go a little bit earlier.
Bryce Foster, I don't know. Bryce Foster.
Cameron Ball. So the only guy in there I don't
know is Bryce Foster. Brian says Rayshawn betting is a
steal in the 6th. Feels pretty good.

(01:46:06):
Though he warns to stay away from Moton for off the old
reasons. This I feel I feel like if I
could get and Bryant looks like Bryant's backing this as well.
If I could get I wanted to get Igot Zion young and I'm like, I
want to take Benny as well, but I already took him so I didn't
want to do that. But if I got both of those guys,
my goodness, I would feel nice about this about this group,

(01:46:28):
especially if you know the the Rashan Geary potentially moving
on from via trade or whatever happens, like Zion young coming
in and then and then Benny coming in, who I've taken a
little peek at now since he was announced for for mobile.
Like I feel pretty good about that.
If if we can find a way to make that happen.

(01:46:49):
So. Can I get your opinion on
something with mobile? Yeah.
So this is no longer the Reese'sSenior Bowl, it's the Panini
Senior Bowl. Thoughts on that?
If Panini Senior Bowl meant a delicious sandwich, absolutely
in on the change. But because it's cards.
Which again, no, no, cards are cool.

(01:47:10):
Cards are not chocolate peanut butter.
OK. What?
You mean it's cards? I thought it was sandwiches.
No, no. The heck is Panini?
Panini cards a sandwich. Panini.
Cards. Cards.
Is it playing cards like football cards?
Oh, I don't do cards. So that's that.
Yeah. That's the the sponsor, right?
Oh, oh, the pop Tarts Senior Bowl would be so elite.

(01:47:33):
That would that would be so elite.
How is how they thought of this?That's what we need.
OK, That's if if somebody else if if some other bowl.
I know the the shrine game is for Shriners children.
So like that's you got to keep that.
That's that's really cool that they have that.
If one of those like other bowlsthat are like earlier than that

(01:47:54):
too, like the hula bowl. I know the American Bowl is this
year. If they went for Pop Tarts Bowl,
I promise you you're getting attendance for that.
You are. So the the Senior Bowl should
absolutely be talking to Pop Tarts.
That's that would be would be myfirst decree as Senior Bowl
director. We're making this a Pop Tarts
Senior Bowl. I promise you, we're bringing it

(01:48:15):
the heat. You could just announce it
before Pop Tarts, even before you even talk to Pop Tarts, and
they're like, oh, shoot, I guesswe got to sponsor this now.
By the way, Tyler, to answer your action.
That's what we would do. It's.
Georgia Tech and BYU. This is we need the popcorn
sacrifice during the Senior Bowl.
People will 100% be tuning in. That's what we need.

(01:48:41):
So that's that's what I'm talking about. 2 of this is
derailable. More like Redacted bowl.
When Redacted takes off and makes us into zillionaires, we
will sponsor a bowl game, the Senior Bowl.
OK, so the Redacted Senior Bowl.Oh, that'd be hilarious.

(01:49:01):
That would be funny by the football.
I don't think For the Foot makesenough money to do that.
Yeah, who put Pop Tarts in a bowl?
I will say Pop Tarts definitely has a.
Cereal. They're cereal, Pop Tarts
cereal. So they that's how you put Pop

(01:49:21):
Tarts in. I don't.
Eat pop tarts or cereal but I would try this although.
I'm so in on this. When Notre Dame backed out of
the Pop Tart bowl and people started talking about the hot
pop Tart bowl all day and putting clips of the pop Tart
mascot on social media. Not even kidding.

(01:49:42):
I texted my wife and said will you please pick up a box of pop
Tarts for me since you're at thestore?
That's interesting. First pop tart I've eaten in
like a decade. It's.
Perhaps. Interesting.
Now the entire thanks for bringing up pop tarts.
Everything that you bring that up.
We don't need more pop tarts. I already had a.
Hold you bring. That up.
This is not. This is not.

(01:50:03):
Tart tier list supporting. My goal of losing 35 more
pounds. Pop Tart tier list.
OK, I can participate in that. That's what we did.
It's slightly in theory because as I said, I just don't eat pop
Tarts anymore as an OP tart to stay away from carbs and sugar.

(01:50:23):
As much as I possibly. Can.
But I think I I could definitelyparticipate in this.
Yeah, I'm I'm in on the pocket to your list.
Do we have an so? So we got 20 from Drew.
We've done 3 mocks, right? I think these are all.
So we've paid out 3/4 of his donation.
We have paid out three quarters we owe.
We owe three more mock drafts. So we owe three more.

(01:50:46):
Yeah, 'cause you said 4 for and two for.
Chris was two. Oh, wow.
OK. Yeah, it was a $10 dress.
Was 10. Dang, all right, so we got to
do. Look, it's down in the, it's
down in the ticker tape right there.
The Tip Jar $30. Say that you're right, I need to
pay more attention. I, I have to, you know, as as

(01:51:06):
good quarterbacks do I need to read the whole the whole field
here? I need to see.
You do need to pay more attention.
And I got to get. Otherwise, because you know what
you think we got in. Dodos.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right. This will be the test.
Yeah, we only got 25. I don't know what you're talking
about. Jake, how much Indones do you
think you're owed right now? You'd be like oh easy 12 bucks.

(01:51:28):
Well. We got this.
Like, well, great. 12 bucks changes like that buddy.
OK, you know, I'm probably getting.
I'm going. To go get that extra $3.
Going in my pocket. I can't believe I'm doing this.
I'm going to go get pop tarts. I think after this we're going
to get to your list. So do we want do we got to do
more box then right that's. Can you please not derail this

(01:51:49):
pop tart conversation going on The chat tool for this says some
mores and hot fudge sundae is S tier I need to see Drew says
thank you. I think for the three mock
drafts. Misses Leahy says hot fudge is
elite. Tyler Dershow says eventually
you will need to tier list the tier lists This channel has

(01:52:10):
done. That's absolutely true, but it's
going to require some homework because we have to go through
and remember all the. I know the number one, the S
tier top tier list ever is the tier list of the Packers going
into the season that had enriched uranium on it.
That's that's a good one. Another good one would be our

(01:52:30):
most hated teams. That's that's probably.
Up there. And then I'm going to say, I
thought that the some of our logos tier lists were elite.
Tofus is Hot Fuzz is also. That's a movie.
Hot Fuzz, That's a. Let's see some.
Of these. Simon Peg movie, Yeah.

(01:52:55):
Hot Fuzz, Yes, means second. Oh, Drew says I have the
ultimate sponsor. Chupa Chups Senior Bowl.
I thought you were going to say Chika Cheetah.
Chika Cheetah. I don't.
Agree. With S tier, all right, should
we just do? This I don't agree with Tyler
Derschel much because he's a Cubs in Iowa guy, but I do agree

(01:53:18):
here. The brown sugar.
Syndrome. Oh, there's already Tear Maker
does have. It's so hard to see your maker.
Does have did? You feel like you felt like you
could see the Pop Tart names on there.
I feel like I needed it. Must be me.
Drifting to 30, that's what's. Yeah, I see.

(01:53:38):
That's my issue. I feel like they're not like
super easy to see, but I, I, I don't like that one bat.
It's so annoying to me how difficult it is to get a screen
to share on this platform news. Oh, this is so hard to.

(01:53:58):
OK, I can read these though. This one says 20% fiber.
All right, so this is strawberrychocolate fudge, brown sugar,
cinnamon cherry turnover. Cherry turnover sounds good.
Straight up Cherry is pretty good.
I like that one, Cherry. Oh my gosh, this is way bigger

(01:54:20):
than any of the ones I saw. Oh, I can barely see any of
these. Do you know how many of these
flavours I've tried? Like 3.
I was going to say, I've tried probably like a dozen of them.
But I love The Simpsons, so I'm putting The Simpsons in at least
B tier. OK.
I've never tried. Watermelons.

(01:54:41):
Red velvet pop tart. I bet that were.
Yes, those, Those slap. Those slap.
Those slap. Is that S tier?
That's probably a probably AI. Should I I should dial it back?
There's I there. Mafi Watermelon.
Pop watermelon. OK, I'm going to the store for
this. If I see a watermelon pop tart,
I'll buy it so we can do a tastetest next week, and I won't

(01:55:03):
touch them until until we do that.
Chat is mocking me. There's a summer flavour that's
interesting, OK. That is but.
Back in the summer, we'll we'll take a we'll take a peek.
I don't know what this is either.
Drew says JJ never had a chupa chup.

(01:55:25):
I've never seen these either. Hopefully says what is a chupa
chup I yeah, apparently it's a sucker there.
I did not know. I don't.
I don't eat suckers. I've not.
I've eaten suckers that are thisshape.
I bet you I've had one of these before.
What's the ones that they have? I feel like everywhere and had
the mystery flavor all the time.Which one what?

(01:55:47):
What brand of that is the suckers is?
That you're talking, is this thesame 1?
So it's like the little ones? Yes, yes.
And like so they always have like the root beer one and the
Butterscotch 1. Yes, yes.
Yeah. What is that called?
I. I don't know what brand that is.
Dum Dums. There it is.
Dum Dums. Yeah, so Dum Dums, I feel like

(01:56:09):
I've seen it. Blue Raspberry, Blue Raspberry
Dum Dums are elite. The root beer ones are not that
good, but the butterscotch ones are elite.
So they got the 2 elite ones right next to each other.
Here's your favorite mystery flavor right there.
There we go. Do you know by the way Yellow?
I can't believe we've derailed it ourselves completely.
What? Do you know what mystery flavor
means in candy? No, but I do know it means

(01:56:32):
something and I forget. Yeah, so, so whether it's like
airheads or suckers or whatever,when they break mystery flavor,
it's 'cause they take, when theyget to the end of all the
batches and there's some left inthe in the tub, but not enough
for a full batch, they mix them together and do mystery flavor.
So don't waste your time trying to figure out what the mystery

(01:56:52):
flavor is. It's a mix.
Unless you're like. Whatever flavors they have
leftover. Unless you're like insane like
that and that's a talent. Yeah.
Now this this company right here.
Flavors in there like how do youknow that?
Oh, wait, no, not them. Mountain Dew.
Mountain Dew does like a Halloween.
They do mystery flavors, Yeah, and then they eventually reveal

(01:57:13):
to you what the flavour was. Did we do a candy tier list?
We had to have, right? We did do a candy tier list.
We did do. That and that was when I
realized how few candy bars there are in the US because we
we got through every candy bar there was and we were like,
what's left? Is this all there is?

(01:57:37):
Yeah. Drew says.
JJ says don't waste your time trying to figure out the flavor.
And all I heard was waste my time trying to figure out every
flavor. So here's the thing.
Here's what you could do. Taste your mystery flavor and
you can try and guess how many. Well, that's the thing.
Flavors and which ones they mix together.
Just know that it's a mix. Like it's not going to be like,

(01:57:58):
oh, watermelon. It's not just watermelon.
It's watermelon plus root beer plus purple grape, right?
Yeah. Tuva's bringing it back around
Bears fans of the biggest suckers.
Biggest suckers of all. I will say I'm not going to even

(01:58:18):
address the Bears fans who were celebrating injuries because
whatever, that's just run-of-the-mill Bears fans being
Bears fans. But I thought it was every.
Fan base troll group on social media has them unfortunately and
it's really annoying. I thought it was extra pathetic
how the Bears fan base this weekbecame such big like Broncos

(01:58:41):
fans and then started using Broncos clips to like dunk on
Packer fans and like the Packers.
That was bizarro behavior. I thought that was just weird.
It was just cringe worthy, cringe inducing.
That's all it was. Yeah, it was.

(01:59:05):
Tim Tam? What the heck is a Tim Tam?
Iowa Joe? Are we talking international
candies? Tim Tams for the win?
Fine. You're gonna make me do this.
Name Tim Tams. Tim Tams.
These do look freaking yummy. Here we have Tim.
Tim flavors. It's chocolate cookies.

(01:59:27):
Fine, we're doing this. Oh, where did this?
Here we go. Original which appears to just
be chocolate and we have a dark double coat.
I just have a theory that this double coat is like the best
flavor. Chewy caramel that looks good.

(01:59:49):
White. OK, I think you mean Caucasian.
This is. Interesting you.
Look very young to. Look at this.
OK, you were just like I've looked, imagining what I was
talking about. Well, no, I I was.
I was. I was.
In the in the. Let's see, look at for just $58

(02:00:12):
and. $0.40 It's your boy in the lab.
Here we can we can get. This.
We can get this. From Australia with love.
I don't know. These look pretty good.
I would try these. Brian Mafi of course.
Of course, Brian Mafi has an opinion on Australian candy.

(02:00:36):
I did another. Box right?
Well, share it then, Norma Stingy.
Right. We've seen this 10.
It's like, what did you say? This is like all the hits.
This we played the hits, but also I nobody took the first two
guys right. Did you take Rodriguez or no?
No, I talked myself out of him because he's old.

(02:00:58):
Well, I talked. Myself.
He's old, he's 61, and he's light.
I took my. I talked myself.
Myself out of him. I talked myself in, so there's
the fourth mood draft for the evening for the boys.
Gyre Hill. I'm a little interested, he
went. Gyre Hill.
I mean, it's the seventh round, so who cares?
I but immensely, immensely care.These were good Valentine man,

(02:01:26):
so don't sleep on it. Just just don't look at all the
guys we. Drafted 2 weeks.
Terrible. 7 rounders are real man.
Everybody on notice every year except for three guys.
NO4OK4455 at the most six. OK, OK, so there's like a
handful of guys who aren't on notice right now, right?

(02:01:48):
Like for sure, it's unfortunate that several of them.
Are hurt. What the heck is Coca-Cola Plus?
The chat derailed us from even doing the Pop Tarts tier list
and we're just like, all right, we're we're doing the like, what
is this? Right, it's clear Coca-Cola
from. Interesting.

(02:02:11):
Is that Chinese or Japanese? It's too small to see.
It looks like Chinese. That's.
I'm not going to speculate at this time, I can't see.
I can't see it either, that's why I'm having a hard.
Time it says Japan on the on that one.
The last one you just clicked. It looks like a beer.
This is 0 sugar. But they did the same way that
you would do whatever. You most recently clicked on
before that one, said Japan. Non alcoholic.

(02:02:34):
It looks like a non alcoholic beer but instead it's a sugar
free. Coca-Cola.
Coca-Cola Japan. There you go.
There you. Go.
Yeah, Coca-Cola. Plus now this picture, it's got
color. These pictures, it's clear.
Brian. Is it clear or not?

(02:02:55):
Oh, he's a read. What else is in it?
Oh, dear. Fiber plus Coca-Cola.
Fiber plus dextrin. What is in it?
Maltodextrin. So it's carbonated water

(02:03:16):
resistant maltodextrin. Dietary fiber Color.
But it looked clear, man. Why did it say color?
Acidity regulator, sweeteners, flavorings and preservatives.
You got to have the preservatives and the flavorings
and sweet. Absolutely.
And caffeine, he said it's regular coat color.
The white is from the label. All right.

(02:03:38):
If you say so. This does not look white.
This looks clear right there. This is white.
But then this looks clear at thetop.
This is clearly clear. Maybe it's just not full.
Maybe the. That might be it.
Yeah. That we're gonna It might.
You might think that that is like the full wrapping.
The fiber makes you poop. Well, yes, that is, that is.
I'm getting I'm getting soy sauce vibes from this bottle.

(02:04:02):
That's fair. All right, well.
Evergreen Evergreen comment hereby Brian Maffey, of course.
So here's what the title of thislife Evergreen.
We got white Coca-Cola. No fiber makes you poop is the.
Fiber makes you poop is the nameof the live stream.

(02:04:24):
I think so, right? So did you do another mock draft
for us yet? No, it's another same.
One you want me to do another one while we're chill, all
right? I'll do.
It but do it on screen. Let's watch.
We don't want to just look at your results.
Come on man. All right, I got to check and
see if too old for this sponsored AEM.

(02:04:46):
Well, we, we still have two moreto do technically, so that's why
that's why I'm here, you know, and then we'll he.
Did not sponsor a Cowboys mock draft soon.
And then we'll do. All right.
Wait, what? I clicked on.
It you lost. It no I clicked on the wrong.

(02:05:09):
I clicked on the wrong one. I have two tabs.
Open. For this, can you crank care for
positional value to the Max? Oh, you can't.
I can for the next one. All right, Twolfa says.
I have $20.00 for the next week.13 seconds to pick, 13 seconds
to pick. Could we pick?

(02:05:29):
I can. I can that that resonates with
me. 13 seconds to pick give. Me 60 and 100 and you got
yourself a deal, Dang it. Draft Jake Slaughter.

(02:05:51):
We've moved back to a little. We move back to a little.
We got all these great picks, OK?
Yeah, All right, we haven't donethat.
You want to do that? JJ went on.
Slaughter. Yeah, let's do slaughter.
All right, Draft. He ain't a guard, but.
Draft the center. Packers hate guards anyways.

(02:06:12):
All. Right.
Can we draft? Julian Omar Cooper junior Do
that I'm. Going to draft Omar Cooper,
junior. No, I don't.
I'm always down. Oh, all right.
I don't. I want to go heavy in the
trenches. World.
Let's go heavy in the trenches with the guys we haven't taken
yet today all. Right, well, that's that would
be world. Mafi, says CJ Daniels, Daniels

(02:06:33):
Drew, says Jake Slaughter. CJ.
Well, we took Jake Slaughter, soCongrats.
Who? Him.
Go heavy on the trenches. I don't see.
Search Daniels. Search Daniels.
I don't. See him?
There's no CJ Daniels. Brian's trolling us.

(02:06:55):
Freaking simulator. We on the train here will we not
like 65313? Wait, wait, is it?
Isn't he the Quebec? Isn't he the 65 center?
No. No, Richard.
Yeah. Take Carter.
Take Carter. I'm in.

(02:07:15):
I'm in. Trenches to the backs.
Oh, that's a fun name to say. Yeah, Cuevas.
Yeah, hey. JC Davis, That's who Brian Maffy
met. Maffy says no.
Jake knows CJ Daniels. He keeps putting an apostrophe.

(02:07:37):
Oh, oh, I know who he's talking.About.
OK, Yeah. Yeah, yeah, Yep.
What to do here? Yeah.
Wait. Yeah, yeah.
That could be fun. I know I've.
Taken all offense. More trenches, all right?

(02:07:58):
More trenches get us the defensive tackle that we
haven't. Taken Can I oh can I please?
Am I allowed to? Wait, let's look at him.
Big boy, can we get the big boy?Can we see?
Can we get the big boy? He does not True.
Senior can. We get the big can.

(02:08:21):
We get the big yeah, Coogan's the 65 center.
There we go. I would love to take Taff.
I guess, I guess sure with. Or.
Or or or. We take.
I haven't watched him. We take Antosaka Keenan is a

(02:08:42):
better stack house, says Brian. I don't.
I'd rather go defensive tackle because we don't have any all.
Right. I'm going to do some all right.
I tend to think that if there isa defensive end, we move on from
this offseason. That's saying I want it to

(02:09:04):
happen. But I think if there is a
defensive end we move on from this offseason, it's not
Kingsley, it's Rashawn. Yeah.
Not saying it's what I would do necessarily.
Mafia says Taffy is declared OK.Keenan equals better stack.

(02:09:25):
House made a move, all right. Mafia says Saka's going back.
All right, let's take Keenan fornow then I have AI have.
A Joe, says Aaron Graves or Max Llewellyn.
Did he go Yes? Let's go.
Let's. Go, boys, we oucha.
Nope. Oh yeah.

(02:09:45):
Malachi Lawrence. I vote.
We take him. What do you say?
Yes. Hold on, let me grab it real
quick. What do you say?
Yes. Hold on, hold on.
I want to see. Llewellyn.
How big is he? No, I.

(02:10:06):
Don't want Lawrence? I don't want another band mess.
Malachi Lawrence, UCF. So he's got, Oh yeah, Oh yeah,
41 pressures on 200 and 828. Password Malachi Lawrence is

(02:10:29):
Malachi Lawrence from UCF as in UC in the father after I hit you
in the back. Yeah, Here's what he's played
this year. Jacksonville State, North
Carolina A&T, North Carolina, Kansas State, Kansas, Cincy,
West Virginia, Baylor, Houston, TX Tech, Oklahoma State and BYU.

(02:10:51):
So eight of his 41 pressures came against Baylor, six came
against North Carolina. Perfect hit, six pressures
against Bill Belichick. Inflated, but there's six
pressures. Against Bill Belichick.
Give me Malachi Lawrence. I'm I'm going on the record.
These numbers are mega inflated,but they're so good that you can

(02:11:15):
deflate them a bit and they'll still be good.
All right. Mafi says Lawrence is a freak.
Did you take him? Did I miss it?
Oh yes, I've I've picked him. You should take Josh Moton again
just to make Mafi mad. No, I will not do that.
Jaden Lucas. What a horrible way to spell

(02:11:36):
that name for the audio only crowd, Jayden Lucas is
JEADYNLUKUS there's. Engraving in this raft.
My gosh, help. Help help.

(02:11:56):
Help help help. When in doubt, go back to
trenches. Go find us a guard, man.
Find us a freaking guard did. I not do that.
Oh look, Ethan O'Neal was sitting right there.
Let's do that. Wait.
Let me find a guard. I can find a.
Guard, right? So there are no guards.

(02:12:16):
Let me find a guard. Let me find a guard.
Let me find a guard. I will find one.
For you? Oh my gosh, his name is Tree.
Free. No, no it's not.
It's tree babala. DI think we draft the tree
fella. Tree babala D when?
We draft the tree fella and. Glad you, Pritchett.
Yeah, it was mothers. Who is this?

(02:12:43):
Who's this team? That is the Citadel.
Who that team? That's the Citadel.
I don't think it is I. Can't tell what that mascot is.
Who that guy? No.
I'll get you an answer in Oh yeah, yeah, 30 seconds.
We should take the guy who there's no position for him to
play in the NFL. That's what we should do.

(02:13:08):
That would be Campbell and Hollywood.
Smothers had a 90.4 grade against Campbell, and then his
highest grade the rest of the year was a 76.
So I'm Campbell, Campbell's highest graded player.

(02:13:33):
Oh, let's go Dare linebacker Logan Logan Livermon.
Do we dare? Do we do it again?
Do we do it again? Do we do it?
Is you say his first name Clev or Cleave Iben don't know Clev
Leben. It's a great, yeah, let's do it.

(02:13:54):
Let's take him. This is trenches.
This counts. Yeah, I guess.
Counts. I guess it's not.
What I call trenches per SE and he's technically it's just the
way that like tight end is trenches.
We can still take IGB. Here it's more like how.

(02:14:15):
We can still take IGB here. You know, yeah, yeah, I'm good
with it. I like IGB, take IGB.
Mafia is crapping on IGB, calling him super inconsistent.
That was true a year ago. I I do not agree that he's been
super inconsistent this year. I really want to take dope so
bad. Could take a little Sam Roush,

(02:14:35):
no. Stanford and didn't play
anybody. Matthew Hibner, dude, all of our
tight end crushes from last class hit, they've all been
good. Yes, so and we took the zilch in

(02:14:57):
that vein. I know where I want to go here.
You can't cuz I already drafted him.
Well, I drafted IGB, we took them so.
Well, two wrongs don't make a right.
Can I please can I can? We see a size real quick.

(02:15:20):
This is wide receiver Brendan. Thompson.
We have to do that. We see his thighs.
Please no. No, we don't have.
To I missed it, is he super tiny?
No, no, we 59. We have to do this.
We don't have to. We don't have to do this.
He is 59. I called it we.
Have to look at this. Now granted, I know you actually
put on the screen, but I don't. Get it when you did.
Have to look at it. He gets open 591. 70 He gets

(02:15:40):
open, he's fast, he's explosive.Look, do you want to take?
Yeah. A potentially good player, yes.
Or do you want to take a player who Brian Goudigans has heard
of? Yes, I said.
Or. Yes.

(02:16:04):
We're not doing it. I am vetoing.
Come on. If you're not going to take a
trench player then take a corner.
I'm the least draft for need guyyou've ever met.
Snowden. And you know that Edward Snowed
ignored the third on this rosterand it's.

(02:16:25):
The third. Edward Snowden.
The third. Junior And normally I would just
say, let's say draft all these in free agency.
Perfect. All we have is.
Just a perfect. This is perfect.
This is what I want to see. This, this is it right here.
No. No slate, no preconceived.

(02:16:47):
No notes. I think that's what it.
Is right there. That's what I want.
That guy has two last names. Smithsonian does have two last
names and he plays offense as well, so he's got receptions.

(02:17:09):
Yeah, that's what we really needis another two way player who
can't get on the Yeah, that is what I would love.
Look at this. Play some slot, play some
corner, play deep. How is it that our two way guy?
How is it that our two way guy this?
Is like drafting Travis. Hunter can't get on the field as
a knot, but can get on the fieldas a wide receiver.
Explain that. Athlete needs an empty canvas is

(02:17:31):
like a such a perfect encapsulation.
Let's. Well, open up, can you do this
one? He shot next to his head.
And you got one right there. What else do we need?
Metaphorically, a guard. Right.
You want us to take a? Guard a medical machine that
lets you see inside a head without cutting it.
We take a Parker Brailsford, a center.

(02:17:52):
He's a center question mark. 290He's a center. 62290 he's 22
years old, little. Little Jason Kelsey vibes with
the movement. Take, take him, take him, take
him. Starter playing starter playing
guard. No one of these guys is going to

(02:18:15):
win and the other guy's going toget shipped out.
What are we doing? All right?
Hopefully the Blake. Hopefully Blake's late.
Guy's available here, please. Yes.
Blake's late. Do we do it?
Yep. OK.
Oh man. Mafia says Brailsford is 6 O.
That's fine. In the center, it is what it is.

(02:18:35):
That's fine. Water will play right guard
we'll finally have. Our we make some trades, we
drafted just a bunch of dudes and we'll make it work.
This might be the worst. Maybe, maybe the coaches need to
just do their jobs, make these players good, all right?
Gosh. Could you imagine being the
coaches and then getting a hand in this pile?

(02:18:59):
Like. Thanks, Goody.
Appreciate that one. Hey, what do you?
Want there's 33. Players on both sides of the
ball figure it out. Thanks for the.
Athlete put him, put this guy onthe back he.
Got AB +2 center sets. PFF said this was AB plus so

(02:19:20):
we're doing it. Make him AB plus.
Hate my cart my. We got one more, right?
Parker Brailsford. Pick We got one more right?
Let's go. That right there was the mock
draft. We don't need a screenshot or
ever revisit. All right, let's cook.

(02:19:43):
All right, this one. Hold on this one, I know
predictive we haven't picked yet.
This is not what do we want. It's.
Predictive. We have a victim.
Oh, wait. We predictive like just straight
up all right, what do we not need?
Exactly what do we not need? Exactly what do we not need?
1st pick is going to be. Jonah Coleman. 1st pick is going

(02:20:06):
to be a right tackle or a running back.
No, it won't be a running back because we have Marshawn Lloyd
and so that's why they won't take running back.
So first pick is going to be a linebacker.
It's going to be a linebacker. OK, we're good.
Yeah. Tell me I'm wrong.

(02:20:27):
Yep. It's going to be an SEC
linebacker. That's the guy right there that
oh, he's 10. He's.
Small. I know he's 20 years old.
I get it, I get it. I.
Get it? I missed that he was 510 when I
said. That I know, I know.
No, no, no, we're not in the two50s.
Hold on. Yeah.

(02:20:48):
Gosh. Perkins scared.
All right, Who's all right? Tulsi.
Tulsi. Tulsi.
Tulsi. Tulsi Boy.
No, it's going to be a linebacker.
Linebacker here. We go, That's why, That's why he
wasn't available, because he wasalready taken.
That's why I couldn't find him. Our first pick is either going

(02:21:10):
to be a cornerback. Oh my God, I could see, I know
the position. I could see.
I think Max Clear is actually going back to school.
FY you think so? I'm getting that.
That's my They're going to pony up and ring him back.
Jake. Here it is.
I have the position for our first pick.

(02:21:31):
Here it is if. It's not linebacker, it's going
to be a safety. You think they're taking a
safety? I'm telling you the position we
don't need. Tiananmen it is.
Potentially, yes, but let's see if there's guys.
I know you want, I know you won't make me a warrant like I
get it. And that's why they won't take

(02:21:52):
him. But Ramsey's played slots I
think as well, yeah. They're not.
No, this is not what they're taking.
They're taking. No, they didn't.
Oh, Key on that. That's who it is.
That's who it is. No, that's who they're.
Taking the second round, JJ, we're not doing this.
People pay good buddy second. Bro it's December, it's

(02:22:14):
December, we should guarantee you their first pick right now.
We should take the road in. This currently is going to be
going like the three hundreds. He's going to.
Shoot up like a rocket right before long snappers.
Bro, we'll, we'll definitely, we're definitely going to do
that for you in the future. The log snappers.

(02:22:36):
OK, give me give me TMN or key on SAP.
That's the first pick. All right, we'll take.
I actually don't hate what take it the Kamari Ramsey pick for
goody. Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Can we compare the sizes of Sureand Ramsey 652O5 red?
6 foot 6 foot 6 foot 2O56 foot two O 5 six with two O 5-6 foot

(02:23:01):
2O51's a red shirt junior, one'sa junior.
They'll take. Slightly true junior.
True junior. Do it.
We're doing it. Do it.
Do it. That's the first pick.
Next pick is going to be a linebacker.
Oh well, we take Rodriguez here.Oh gosh.

(02:23:22):
A million times out of a million.
Yep, this is it. OK, Now we're going to go tackle
or wide receiver tackle, OK. Great.
JC Davis I. Mean I mean I mean 65. 65335
senior too old too old 663 Jerrysays we bait, we playing base

(02:23:44):
cover 3 now that is I mean this.Is this is the tackle?
I think you're not sure. Another Arizona State tackle.
Or it's KC. They're not going Boise State,
though. 65311. Hey, he can play.
He's not going Boise State. 65311 Hey, he can play guard.

(02:24:04):
The Packers as. Predictive as hecky.
Riley, it's going to be, it's going to be USC.
What's USC? But you know how obnoxious it
would be if they took center? I think it's and let Shawn Ryan
walk in free agency. I think it's here, right?

(02:24:26):
We haven't picked corner. No, I, I think it's here.
I think it's Willy. That's fine, you can take Willy.
I think it's Willy. SEC.
Corner SEC. Corner.
Yeah, sure. SEC Corner.
Then they'll take tackle or. Wide receiver.
Now we're taking tackle, which you Notcher's here.

(02:24:48):
They do like their West Coast. We've gone West Coast and Texas.
This ain't Texas, it's West Coast.
Take it, send it. You're not sure?
Yeah, you're not sure, OK. This is the This is the the one
Rayshawn Benny. Theresa's wasn't Turner from

(02:25:09):
Boise State. Who's Turner?
Billy Turner? Which Turner are you talking
about? Will Turner from Pirates.
Yeah, Billy Dern went to North Dakota State.
That's why he had so many fanboys is.
That actually real? Was he really?

(02:25:31):
Oh my, he was. Yeah.
He was 2014 third run pick NorthDakota State.
I think this is the. I do think I do feel pretty
good. About all Brian Mafi's friends
know. That he went to North Dakota
State, though, it's true. Oh, this would be.

(02:25:53):
He can't help himself. Oh, is that run defence grade?
That's perfect. This is a he can't help himself
thing. He's a senior.
But. Plus it's later though.
Send it. I think it's him or it's or it's
Benny. Yeah.

(02:26:14):
So we're. 3:05 This is the move.This is what this is.
We do this. Not big enough to be a nose
tackle. I feel like they do this.
OK, let's do this. That's fine.
All right. And now, now we take Llewellyn.
No. Diego, Diego, you can't take.

(02:26:39):
I'm convinced the audio only portion of the crowd never makes
it to the two and a. Half hour mark.
No way. I was so sad to miss last week's
live stream, by the way. Yeah.
So sad. Two of us says they can feed him
some Pop Tarts and Chris says, Imean, this is kind of.
Sick. Do we want to do this for

(02:27:00):
funsies? Whoa, mess the MO Westmoreland.
22.6% password win rate I mean. I don't care about win rate,
it's a fake stat. I mean, you know, we do that.
Win rate is the biggest stat there is.
Why you're out there to win? I want to know what the rate at
which you get dubs. I would like some dubs.

(02:27:22):
It's a fake stat invented by ESPN, and they're incidentally.
So think ESPN invented anything?Do you think they just took
something? They invented the SEC.
They'd call it something else. I mean the name Westmoreland is
a sick. Wrong position.
Get out of, get out of edge. This is not where they're going.

(02:27:46):
Oh my gosh. Sean, Michael.
Gillen, Brian. Mafi says that.
Hold on, Brian, Mafi says Oscar Delp is Musgrave.
I have to vehemently disagree with him on that this.
Is how athletic is John Michael Jillenborg.
This is Musgrave K How fast is he if if he's anywhere near

(02:28:06):
these numbers, This is Musgrave drop rate run block grade that
that is so on the. Look at the competition he's
played against too. Look at this.
Hold on, look at the game so. On the nose, it's crazy.
Is that Akron? Is that Akron the first one?
Yes. Zips And then I can't even see
what that is UN something you and I.

(02:28:27):
That's Northern Iowa. For sure.
Northern Iowa, they got. Utah they got butt kicked
against Utah and Akron 41.1. Great against Utah.
Air Force 54.8. Colorado State 48.3 is that San
Diego State are there 62.7 Fresno 62.4 no idea what that

(02:28:50):
says. Oh is it the Wolfpack?
Nevada 54 and then Hawaii 63.3? Two of us says if he has more
than three yak yards on the season he is not Musgrave.
I saw people start writing his name as Musgrave.
The during this game I saw Musgrave like at least three

(02:29:10):
times on X and it has been annoying me ever since that
game. OK, OK.
Look a little better the year before.
Can I see Jean? Michael.
Jillenborg. Yes, my king.
Oh my gosh. Yes, this is the king.

(02:29:34):
My gosh. That's a goody tight end if
they're gosh. This is Muskrat.
To give me some J Sternberger vibes as well.
Run it. This is him.
This is he who shall be drafted.He who I wish we didn't, but
because. Out of curiosity, which running
backs are left? Because we were trying to go

(02:29:55):
predictive, right? And I still don't think they're
going to take a running back because they've got Marshawn.
What? Oh, Justice Haynes.
It's Justice Haynes going to theNFL.
This year I don't. Know.
Oh, wait, let's say Jamal Haynes.
Hold on a second. You're going to best.
Oh no, Whittington. Wait, am I supposed to?
What was what was the sound I supposed to do?
Purring. Yeah, I can't.

(02:30:16):
Remember how to purr anymore? There you go.
Jamal Haynes, not Justice Haynes.
We don't take this elusive reading around.
These. Parts.
Elusiveness of 39. Elusiveness is not great.
You need to be good. He just like.
Me for real. Just do some, give me some after

(02:30:37):
contact. I'm good.
I'm good with this. Do it.
Do it. We out West, we had that Big 10.
2 Oregon. Guys tight end, we brought her
and disappointed us a long time ago.
Oregon tight end Oregon Oregon says we should have drafted
Jaden Mayava. This this tracks start and end

(02:31:02):
with work. And we brought in.
I have no idea. Because Bennett was at A&M,
Oregon tight end Drew says Colt.Oh, Cole Colt Lierla is right.

(02:31:27):
Yeah, that's right. Year was that.
Long time ago. Before I started writing about
the Packers in 2018. OK.

(02:31:50):
So he played it looks like 2014 did.
We do all our mock drafts. For his combine measurements,
what? I think we did them all.
Oh, yeah, yeah. Wait a minute.
This is right. Yeah, I remember that.
Yeah. Too old for this.
You just told us you have 20 bucks to last you the next two
weeks, and you just sent us $5. I can't take that.

(02:32:13):
You just told us no. No, that you're going to starve
to death. No, no.
No, we can't take. That he says a fiber for your
fiber. I I really appreciate it, but I
can't take this. You just told us you're going to
starve for that. I'm going to refund it because I
don't want to. Refund it and we're going to do
the mock draft. That's what we're doing.

(02:32:33):
One more for the I care about you too much.
One more for the. Road I'm not going to let you
starve to death. We're going to do the mock.
Yeah, we're going to give you the mock anyways.
Doing the mock, he said. A Cowboys one, right?
I officially. Refunded it he.
Said Cowboys. Right.
Should we do it? Go invest that $5 and turn it

(02:32:55):
in. We're doing the buy some
Bitcoin. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're.
Doing the Cowboys. He did want the Cowboys.
All right, let's do it. OK Cowboys, it's going to make
me sick to my stomach to spend our our first round pick.
Sunny Styles is 1000% the pick. That's what I was going to.
Pick and it's the. Right, 1000% and it's that's,

(02:33:16):
that's, that's their, that's their first.
Pick. Oh my gosh.
And then they're going You wannawith our pick, with our pick
they're taking you wanna. I think they're like, hey, we
think we can find to make up Parsons.
Baby, baby, baby what? If it's Matteo Young like.
I think they're going to take Zion Young early or take a make
up Parsons, except he's bigger. Yes, this is the one dude.

(02:33:44):
Isn't Jerry an Arkansas guy? They're 100% doing this right,
doing Quincy Rhodes. We're doing that thing.
You're gonna do that? First round, Yeah, Yeah.
All right, send it. I think he does this.
Send it. What's that?
Drew says these players look a lot better than our second

(02:34:04):
rounders. Various suit of you.
Wow. Wow, Tyreek SAP and Key on Saab
are both pretty good Dallas Cowboys, but neither are as good
as Will Lee. Will Lee is an elite Dallas
Cowboys name. They need they need safety bro.
I mean, SAB is right there. SAB.

(02:34:26):
I feel like SAB is the right is the right thing you want.
To see what the Cowboys, so I I think that they need another
edge rusher. Yeah.
And they they do need a running back.
I think we do the running back. Let's see.

(02:34:47):
Let me see. Well, this will be very on the
nose for them. That is the very cowboy's name
cost It's Ravion Wisner from Texas.
Or lavion Moss. From Texas.
A&M. Very.
Let's go, Moss. Let's go, Moss.
OK, let's do that. Then we're going to take

(02:35:10):
Llewellyn. I think they need edge, right?
She's still there. Well, there he is.
Yeah, let's. Go for it.
Let's take Llewellyn and then what else they Maybe some
offensive line reinforcement. They only have one more pick
left though. Offensive.
Yeah, I would say. Little some, some.

(02:35:32):
What if they trade next year? One of next year's firsts for
another pick this year. Don't forget.
Oh, Jerry has to question Arkansas.
Arkansas. How many how many draft picks in
the future? He's still going to be alive.
Arkansas Carmona for sure. I I I wonder if they trade one

(02:35:54):
of their 2027 first round picks.For what the 1st?
Round pick this year A first round pick this year.
Well, we we did. We can't do that.
We are too far. No, I know, but I'm just I'm
just speculating out loud. Just just good balling.
Olivia Moss is an elite footballname.
It really is, Drew says. They have two first years this

(02:36:17):
year. Yeah, I know.
And Jerry's going to be dead in like 5.
Minutes they wants to draft Rabello height who might, may or
may not be an addresser like 225S no.
This feels very accurate for this to me.
If they draft all these guys, especially like the first 3, I
would like a Pulitzer I think. I think the first two are highly

(02:36:41):
likely. Feels right.
I mean if cash is. Available at. 23 That would make
sense for them. The only question was Sonny
Styles for me is whether he'll still be there when they're on
the clock. Yeah, 100%.
If he's there, he's the pick. He is IA. 100% agree he he will

(02:37:01):
be a cowboy if if he is available for sure.
That's a pick that I feel like I've I've only done a few of
them and written up or done a video but I'm pretty sure I did
the video I did a few weeks ago for a reverse round Mach head
styles to the Cowboys. I it just it?
Just it feels. December, and it's already a
chalky. Pick.
It feels right. Though we all know it's

(02:37:24):
December, we all know that's howit was going to go if he's on
the board, just like we all knew.
Four months out. What's his name?
I can't remember and can't standwho went to the Bengals.
Shamar Stewart. We all knew he was going to be a
Packer. If, since he hadn't.
If since he didn't do that, Yep.The chalky pick that should have

(02:37:45):
happened. Thank you, Kuperzee.
Thank. You since he appreciate you,
yeah. You're so quiet I can't hear
you. It's.
True. So there you go.
That's what Dallas could look like.
We'll probably do some Dallas ones for 27 as well.
When that when we're when that'spossible to do.

(02:38:08):
Oh, no, did they they? No, they got rid of their own.
So it will be green base for them in 2027.
So they believe in 2026 they're going to be better than the
Packers, no? Hey, always bet on yourself if

(02:38:31):
you're Jerry Jones. It's true.
Can I Can I throw something? Can I throw something by you?
Using the mock draft simulator here really quick.
Only if you preface it with the thing that you need to preface
starting a new thing on the showwith.
Can I do Yeah. Can I do a what if segment here

(02:38:52):
by presented by redacted energy?You may All right, cool.
So I'm just going to make sure Itweak this so it's right,
because it's really annoying when they don't move these.
So just just got to move them quick.
OK, cool. I'm going to take all these.

(02:39:12):
I'm just going to I'm just goingto go to and make sure I got it.
All right. So picture in your brain.
OK, you're the Cincinnati Bengals.
You stink, you hate, you hate spending money, and you can get
some money off your cap this offseason.
Does that sound great, JJ? Yeah, trade Joe Burrow.

(02:39:34):
Does that sound great, JJ? Are we going to trade Joe Burrow
and Jamar Chase? So.
What if I told you that a team had a couple first round picks
this year and a potential quarterback who is retiring
after the season because he's getting old and he had to bring
a big old trailer in to make sure his back was OK?

(02:39:55):
And the Bengals say, you know what, we'd like all these nice
picks because they're cheaper. OK, what if we did this?
What if we did this for a? We already we already had the.
Bengals hate their fans money. Pause for a second.

(02:40:16):
Did you see the Bengals? Obviously you saw this breaking
NFL criteria by not shoveling the snow off of their seats for
this oldest heck game, but the Bengals got shut out.
Yeah, they hate their fans with a fiery passion of 10,000 dying

(02:40:38):
sons. They will absolutely trade away
Joe Burrow. So Joe Burrow gets to go play
potentially with Devante and Puka.
OK, here's my problem with it. 3firsts is not enough.
Oh. You're going to have to put one

(02:41:03):
more sweetener in there. Let me.
Take. Care of this equivalent to at
least 2 seconds. Irene Young this is it.
Yep, that's it. That's.
It I think this is it. Probably that's it.
Byron Young had has had a nice year, a lot of pressures.

(02:41:26):
And they're going to do this in the they're going to have three
first round picks in a year where there's no quarterbacks in
the entire draft. This is what they're.
Going to do. Yeah, and they're going to take
Darien Mensa from Duke in the 1st.
Wait, can we do it? Hold.
On this is it right here hold onthree first and I so Byron Young

(02:41:48):
this is I'm. Going to do this, but I'm going
to hold on. I'm going to do 2 rounder.
I'm going to control only them just for for fun.
So you've won the Super Bowl. Congratulations.
Because I feel like this is likea pretty accurate thing.

(02:42:08):
Nope. There we go.
OK, you and you. And so.
This is right. Yep.
OK, and I'm trading with myself because I'm a weirdo.
No, no, I OK wait, why can't? I.
What are you doing trade swap giants for Rams I.

(02:42:31):
That's where I'm looking for theRams.
Oh. I do not.
We can't see whatever you're. Oh, there we go.
We just see I had to go to your teams.
OK, so give all this up. We're going to give Byron Young
away just so we could see how itlooks 'cause I, I feel, I feel
strongly that this could happen.OK, force the trade.

(02:42:55):
Started. Force the trade all right now
Joe Burrow is a ram. Now do the Bengals move up?
Do they try and move up with theGiants?
Yeah. Do you want to do?
That and try and get Fernando. OK. 932 in the one or 941?

(02:43:22):
Maybe 941? In the that's just 30% chance of
being accepted. 941 one and two.What if who they actually trade
with is the Raiders though? Because the Giants don't need.
Raiders want the QB though. I know, but that's why I see

(02:43:43):
Raiders want the You think it would cost more to get to 2 than
it would to get to 1? No, I no, but like I the Raiders
won't move off it because they want the QB right.
If this is a if this is a 2 QB class with Mendoza and more you,
you're going to have to you're going to have to probably force
the issue. But let's let's.

(02:44:06):
For fun's sake, let's. What do this hold on?
What if they just try and trade with Tennessee to get ahead of
Cleveland? So maybe, but also let's think
about this, your Cincinnati, you've acquired all this thing,
you're going to give away all ofthese cheap contracts for one
cheap contract or are you going to use you can do a lot?
Of cheap contracts. Why do all that when you can

(02:44:28):
just play Joe Flacco next year? Well, that's also true.
So let's let's you know what we're going to start this
sucker. We're going to, OK, we're not
going to get either one of thoseQBs, but we could get.
Do it, Jeremiah. Oh.
No, no, no, no, no. So like we take defense.
What if we did some smart stuff?We took some defensive players

(02:44:49):
who are like good like styles. Bengals love them.
Some Ohio State players, too. That's the thing.
Yes, Bengals and Browns can't take Tate, unfortunately.
That that would be too much fun.Oh.
My gosh, could you imagine if they had Chase and Tate with T

(02:45:14):
Higgins doing whatever? The heck?
I mean, could take. I mean, they could take Simpson,
right? Like Simpson is technically.
And then no corner of action thrown to him.
Yeah. Garrett Nuss, Meyer throwing to.
Him. We could take Ty Simpson here.
Technically good. I say take Tate.
At 9:00 and we can't take, we can't take Tate.

(02:45:37):
He's so funny. He's so funny.
I think we take Styles and Thai if.
They have back-to-back picks. They're doing styles first so
they can pay. Yeah, I less.
That's right. That's correct.
Oh my gosh. That's correct.

(02:45:57):
OK. And then we're not going to
touch O line. No, no, the Bengals are not
taking O line because that's what they need.
They're going to go edge next sothey can get rid of Trey
Henderson. Yeah, yeah, that's it.
Joseph's right there. Who's big?

(02:46:19):
He's bigger, 250. That feels better.
That's the guy, yeah. Take 240.
Yeah, we're going to. Let's do our Mason.
Then we got pick again. See, at this point, this is
Bengals fans are going maybe, maybe this is oh, so Rocky's
right there. Keith Abney, Little defense.

(02:46:41):
Oh. I just realized.
We took Hill is a very Bengals. Player I realized we they took a
bunch of linebackers. They took linebackers at last
year's draft, too, and I find that hilarious.
So Styles Simpson. Oh, what if they want Dante
Corleone to stay at home in Cincinnati, OH?

(02:47:04):
What? Are you doing got Max Claire
here to take? From the.
Ohio State University. Oh, no.
I I. Don't.
Not an Ohio State University. Right, Chris Johnson, yeah.

(02:47:27):
Chris Johnson is a a, a pretty Bengalsy name.
Yeah, and they need it. All right, now we get to be the
Rams. We've traded Byron Young, so you
know. Oh, Dang it.
Screw you, Chicago. Ramsey, Ramsey tackle help.
They do. And I still really hate their

(02:47:49):
secondary. Do we have?
Any of them you know. Too bad he's not a tackle,
ladies and gentlemen. Hidden green maybe?
I say a world, maybe believe in some tools. 68 Big Dog.
I could see that being a pic. You said secondary too.

(02:48:11):
Yeah, it's a good to shout also.Drew says since he could ignore
quarterback and then take one next year, aim for Arch.
That's possible. Yeah.
Then he asks, would the Bengals ever take love at six or seven?
Trying to get back to the Corey Dillon days.
They're stupid enough to do that.
They're probably but, but see. That's that.
But see. The remember they don't have

(02:48:31):
you. Guys know that like the
guaranteed money you're shellingout for Jeremiah Love, there
would be like third on the on the running back list.
Could you imagine the Bengals ofall teams though being the ones
to do a massive 3 plus first round pick trade?
Yeah, to trade away a QB that's they're paying a lot of money

(02:48:54):
to, Yeah, for sure. I'm just saying like it's the
Bengals. Absolutely.
I also I'm thinking about. Some they're mega, they're mega
dumb. Remember how I made you throw
Byron Nung in there? To get the.
Brace up. Oh.
Les Sneed is going to finesse the Bengals so hard because the
Bengals don't have AGM and they don't know how to negotiate.

(02:49:14):
Yeah. But counterpoint, we just take
Derek Moore. Here.
Sorry, is this still the Rams pick?
Yeah, counterpoint, the Byron Young replacement is right here.
You know, sure. Whatever.
I think we can do that I. Don't love Derek Moore?

(02:49:35):
He's OK. Do that.
That's interesting. I think the I think the this
this would be interesting to see.
Yeah, you fools. Oh my gosh, They got one pick,

(02:49:55):
yes, but we got less need special one pick and they also
got Joe Burrow. But we got Joe Burrow.
They're just milking this for all his worth and this is.
This would be so interesting. Joe Burrow loses the Super Bowl
to the Rams and the herder becomes a Ram.
You heard it here first people. OK, just want to make.
Sure. I'm going to need to see

(02:50:15):
somebody do the jersey swap and put him, put Joe Burrow in.
Now we're in his uniform. So give me give me the give me
the give me the five player across Burrow Puka verse Adams.
Who else we want to put in there?

(02:50:36):
I would love to put Cam kitchensin there, but we'll we'll we'll
go. We'll go Braden Fisk, go Braden
Fisk that fair give me that or you can go.
You can go Kyron if you want to as well.
But. Speaking of which, hold on, do
you remember the the two edge mock that we did?
Yeah, weren't weren't my 2 edgesBraden Fisk and Jared verse?

(02:51:00):
Were they not? Isn't that?
No, the two edges were. No, I think it was chop and.
Verse but I love Jared verse so much.
Because because Fisk is AD tackle, I think you got verse
and Chop. I think you did both of those.

(02:51:22):
Verse and chop. I thought you just or did you?
Just now you said. I thought just now you said chop
and Fisk, but you said chop and verse.
Yeah. Or did you?
Darius Robinson, that sounds right.
It was chop and verse. You're right.
Yeah. You're right.
That's OK. OK, so.
Well, Jake, who? Who wins on Saturday?

(02:51:42):
Yeah. It's a real question.
Packers are gonna beat the Bearsby 1 score, but the game is not
actually going to be that close.The Bears in desperation are
going to put up a garbage time touchdown to make it a one score

(02:52:05):
game. It's going to be like a six
point game. Yeah, it's fair.
This could be the six point gameand then I agree Packers are
going to point game. One division game left against
the Vikings. Six point game, I agree.
We got to keep the bit rolling here, right?

(02:52:27):
So you're you're picking the Bears to win this one.
Yeah, yeah. No sense.
No sense in in in derailing the bit here for sure.
That's fine, let's do that. That's fine.
I think you do you. Look, last year's second Bears
game was just absolutely embarrassing.
I'm still pissed at the way the Packers didn't even try to win

(02:52:49):
that. Game.
Didn't even try. You can tell the coaches didn't
care about it. Half the players didn't care
about it. We had backups out there.
It was so frustrating and so stupid and I'm still mad about
it. Goal.
Was. To be.
There's big stakes for this gameand because of that, I think the
Packers are actually going to try.

(02:53:11):
It's either going to be a blowout or it's going to be
comfortably A2 possession game until garbage time when the
Bears score a touchdown to make it a six point game and then
they lose. How do you And there's going to
be another game ending interception.

(02:53:34):
OK, OK, I like it. I here's what I will say by by.
Caleb Williams Caleb Williams isgoing to have the game ending
interception. I'm calling this, I'll call this
one. I would love to see that again.
I'm calling Jaden Reed over 100 yards.
In this game. So this is the thing too.
Dante and Wicks basically didn'tplay against the Bears in the

(02:53:57):
first game. He's going to be a big part of
this game. It's going to be a Reed and
Wicks game and Matthew Golden isgoing to continue his ascent in
this game. Agent 0 Jordan Loves 0 Scoring
touchdown. Agent Zero will score in this
game. I think he will.

(02:54:17):
It's going to be. Yeah, well.
I think Reed, he's gonna have the yardage.
He's gonna have 3 catches. Golden's gonna have 3
touchdowns. Sorry, 3.
Receptions. Yes, yes.
Golden's gonna have 3 receptions, yes.
Reed is gonna have multiple touchdowns.
Wix is gonna have 5 or 6 receptions that go for at least

(02:54:41):
three first downs, all right? And Jordan's gonna have a
rushing touchdown. OK, I like that.
I'm in on that. And one of our injured players
who is expected to miss this game will play in this game.
OK. I would kind of prefer it to be

(02:55:02):
Watson. That's fair.
But it might be Zach, Tom. Zach, Tom would be nice.
Are we expecting Evan Williams to miss this game?
I think he's expected to be out for like two or three games.
OK, he said. He, which is why I think
earlier. Felt as bad as.
When you were asking me that, hehad.
At 1:00. Point but.
Guess your player and then you started doing the OI thought you

(02:55:24):
were going with Oladapo steppingin to fill in for FME.
I thought that you were you weretrying to get tricky by saying
that Oladapo's stock was going up because of the Evan Williams.
Injury, no. That would be cool, though.
So, yeah, I'm going to go read with 100 yards receiving in this
one. I'm going to go golden with a

(02:55:44):
touchdown. I got Edrin Cooper with an
interception in this game. He has done he has he has
splashed in some plays where he is taking away those big those
big dig routes over the middle. And so like, I think if if
Chicago breaks one of those out and then Ben Johnson has
obviously plenty of those in thebag.
They've worked on, you know, Jameson Williams getting a lot

(02:56:06):
of those big digs off play action.
I feel like it's a really prime spot for Cooper to have a pick
in this one. And I'm going to go I I think I
think Sorrell gets a sack in this game.
I'm going to call Baron. I think that I think we should
keep our eyes on Lucas Van Ness.For sure.
And I'm not saying that because I'm predicting him to have a big

(02:56:28):
game. I'm saying we should watch him
because if the Packers are goingto have a shot in the playoffs
and Micah Parsons is, as we know, he's done for the year,
Lucas Van Ness. Lucas Van Ness breaking out, I
think is going to be the path. Yeah, if it doesn't happen, if

(02:56:52):
it's just if it's Brooks. Him and Brooks, probably.
Probably. Have to.
Brooks as AD tackle or as an edge rusher?
D Tackle. Like I think it, I think it has
to happen is what I'm saying. I'm not saying it's going to.
I think it has. To I just think we have a lot of

(02:57:13):
options at D tackle. You know, Jordan Riley coming
in, Warren Brinson still playing, not playing well, but
still playing out there. Brooks and Wooden.
We we have a lot of options at Dtackle.
Iowa, Joe. Iowa Joe.

(02:57:34):
He knows what he's doing. Be careful.
He knows what he's doing out here.
Let's just say that he is predicting Brenton Cox to be
involved. So there's that.
All right, Jake, it's time. Hand over your heart.
Thank you for the therapy everyone talking about pop tarts
and Dum Dums and. All that good.

(02:57:55):
This is the picture you get, because this is the state of the
Packers right now. Yeah.
Thank you all so much for the donos, the jokes, the Pop Tart
tears, all the good stuff. And the other tears?
And the Anchorman and every, everything that was good about
this live stream. I hope you feel better about the

(02:58:16):
Packers, or at least about, you know, life as a football
watcher. Here's the thing.
We appreciate you. One more thing for those who do
do so, you know, enjoy Packers football only got, you know,

(02:58:37):
it's only a handful of weeks left, right, No matter how you
slice it and football in general.
If if, if you're in on all of that, just enjoy it because you
know, we do a lot of a long build up to this.
And you know, we're week 16 now.So enjoy what you got left of
it. The goal is 6 and O against the

(02:58:57):
division. That's the goal, yeah.
If we can do that, then we'll say it was a successful end of
the end of the stretch here. Five and one in a playoff win.
No, I had six and six and O against the division. 6 and O no
playoff Yeah, or five and one ina playoff win.

(02:59:17):
No 6 and O and no playoff win. OK, screw the playoffs.
Dude, what if we save the six and O these?
Quarterbacks. Win next year for the Super
Bowl. Win that, we're going to win.
With that, thank you all so muchfor watching.
Go. Oh, I almost said it without
giving him credit. In the words of the late, great
Mr. Ed policy. Go, pack.

(02:59:40):
Go.

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