Training Camp Is Underway and Zach Tom Got Paid!

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I woke up 1 morning just a regular small Green Bay was
restless. Spirit ran low and then it hit
me. I had to let it show.
So shout it so loud. Go, pack.
Go. But the fans started roaring.

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Lambeau Field shook from the very first moment.
That's all it took down the line.
If I told you I could barely thought stealing a chance some
soccer team God. No need for a Viking to borrow
tune. I choose out the power of the

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viral line. But that's not my policy.
These words are mine here. Go back gold.
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He was hot up and loud screaming.
Go back, go. Said, you know we ain't no
choir. Go back, go.
So we shouted so loud. Go back, go, go back, go.

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Yeah. Go back.
Go. Yeah.
Welcome back to Derailed. I am your host JJ Blahey here

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with my Co host Jake Shivink. Man, training camps here exact
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Yeah. So big headlines.
Tricia Paytas. She's got a couple kids already.
She's got a kid named. Oh, what is it like BBQ sauce or

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something? Hold on.
Tricia Paytas. What is her older kids names?
Here we go. Malibu Barbie and Elvis are her
two older kids names, right? And now she's announced she's
having another kid that she's naming Aquaman, Moses.

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And of course, you may remember in 2019, David Bach Tiari
dressed up as Aquaman for Halloween.
This is a big deal. Wow.
Also, the late, great Mr. Ozzy Osbourne passed away.
Yes, of course. He's well known for his song

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Crazy Train. And that is what the Packers are
about to do. They're going to Crazy Train a
training camp for this upcoming season.
So there you. And I would also say that there
is a crazy train here, one that can get derailed very quickly.
So, you know, big shot, if it wouldn't make us get banned and

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demonetized, I would just play the song Be sick.
Unfortunately, the only song we can play would be the this one.
Oh yeah. This is true.
We can play that. Just just listen to this and

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imagine going crazy. Train is playing, but yeah, we
do have we had to do a training camp.
We also had, of course, the long-awaited Zach Tom extension
is here finally pretty exciting.And we already had a a friend

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question. I was going to say listener
question. It's from Bruce Edmonds.
He wanted to know when or what what Elton Jenkins is going to
get paid. Yeah, shout out for the
question. I I think the Packers got a
steal here with Zach Tom becausehe didn't reset the market,

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which he absolutely should have.He should have reset the market
for left tackle and instead he'sthe third highest paid right
tackle. So I'll take that.
I'll take that. Oh yeah, 100 times out of 100.
Yeah, absolutely. What a bargain for the Packers.
Yeah, I think there were, there were mixed reactions about it.

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I think, you know, he actually comes from bright tackles.
You know, the fact that he hasn't been added, this is
unbelievable, Unbelievable that this hasn't been added yet.
He would fall in behind Lane in average per year.

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He would be ahead of Juan Taylor, which he should be ahead
of Onwinu, ahead of Howard, ahead of Brian O'Neill.
I I think he is probably the second biggest, maybe the
biggest deal or the second biggest steal of the tackles

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currently. I think you could make a case
that one of Dawkins or Spencer Brown extremely valuable right
now. Spencer Brown at at 18,000,000.
They kind of almost paid him as the breakout was happening.
So but yeah, other than that, like getting, you know, what was

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it 22 a year, right? It's worth up to a year 2
probably not going to see off 92.
I, I, I highly doubt that unlessunless, you know, my guy just
goes out there and does David Bock Thiari stuff and is maybe
going to kick to the left side next year.
We'll see. So, but yeah, I think I think

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the value is really, really good.
He is if you want to go straighttackles, he is getting exactly
the same per year, at least in the AAV as Jordan.
Milata obviously has one more year on the contract, right?
I think Milatas was 3 for 66 andit's just a hair under Jake

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Matthews in Atlanta. So Matthews getting 22 1/2,
obviously the up to right 92,000,000 would put him at 23,
which would slide him ahead of Matthews.
It would still be behind Andrew Thomas, obviously behind Tonsil,
behind Derosaw, behind Williams and behind Tristan Werfs.

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And I think he'd be behind what Sewell and as I mentioned, Lane
Johnson. So, yeah, but you, you and I had
talked back in like January about, you know, that our
estimate was it probably was going to take 25 a year to get
the deal done with Zach, Tom. So this is a screaming deal.
He's under contract through age 30.

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That would be 2029. I mean, look, more than likely
he doesn't get another contract with the Packers after this just
because almost nobody did. Does like, we'll we'll revisit,
you know, three years from now and see like, hey, what kind of
trajectory is he on? Has he tapped into that fountain

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of youth or whatever? But you would think that, like,
this is his big deal and then he's done.
But this gives the Packers stability, some more stability
in the offensive line through 2029, which is super duper
exciting. Yeah.
Yeah, I'm excited for that. As I said, I don't know what, I

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don't know how it's going to shake out next year.
I don't know what the plan is, right.
I think we kind of thought that Rashid should probably get more
than what Dan Moore got, right, which was 20 1/2, which is kind
of hilarious that he got that much per year, at least in the
AAV, right? Decker and Stanley are at 20.
Yeah. Dawkins is a hair over 20.

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Like those. Those are what we're kind of
we're looking at for for Walker.I mean, it's just hard to
imagine Walker won't test the market, especially if Tom's
getting 22. I can't imagine Green Bay goes.
Yep, Walker, you're worth more than that to to us than Zach.
Tom. I just I, I don't see that.
So yeah, it it it just could be a situation where you look at,

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you know, will Elton be here next year?
Will Rashid be here next year? I think those are are are
questions that we're going to have all all season as far as
you know, the other three that Ithink will will slide into
starts right. It's probably Morgan or Belton,
right. I would I would prefer Belton
based on the style. I would like to see them play,
but got to wonder if Belton's inthe long term plans that tackle

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as well, but he's just going to start the year as a guard with
it. Would they like doing that?
And yeah, can't wait to see whatwhat that's going to to look
like a year from now. But we get to we get to stay in
here and now we got sheed. It's going to be hopefully a
great year for the offensive line, Aaron says, checking in to
say hi. But it's my night for bedtime.

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You should have bedtime every night, frankly.
Nice. Do you do you like work a nice
night shift and you're on rotation or something?
So like, are there nights that you don't have bedtime?
I have bedtime every night, but that's kind of a recent
development because my 7 month old finally started sleeping a
little bit better. So but then he makes a

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prediction Zach Tom is going to win protector of the year and
the odds are high. I like it.
I, I, I would put Zach Tom on the short list for protector of
the year. He's been one of the better, one
of the best offensive lineman, certainly in pass pro in the NFL
over the past two years. I think he's I think he's a

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pretty good, pretty good candidate.
Aaron says he has a four year old.
That's why you have 04 year old with Yeah, bedtime with the four
year old. I get it.
That makes sense. Yes, yes, I get it.
I have bed bedtime with the 2 year old every night and my wife
cleans the kitchen while I put the babies to bed.
So makes sense that that's what my mind didn't go there.

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OK, check. Catch up.
A couple other things quick here.
Brian Maffy has a question that's going to take us a minute
to answer, so I'm going to star that one.
And then Tyler Derschel wants toknow who has the better contract
in the division, Tom or Johnson from the Bears?
The only Johnsons I know of in on the Bears off the top of my

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head are Jalen Johnson and Ben Johnson.
We comparing Zach Tom's contractwith Ben Johnson's contract?
Honestly. Honestly, that's where my mind
went first and I was like, oh, wait, yeah, no, they have a they
have a corner there. Yeah.
Jalen Johnson just signed. I think 70.
Let's see, 676 mil, two years. I'm sorry, two years, four

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years, 76 mil, four years. So he is what's this,
1234567891011? He's 13th.
So Zach Tom got paid corner position a lot better.

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Yeah, he is Jaylen Johnson's behind some interesting
characters on the list, I will say.
So honestly, it's probably at this point the Bears got ahead
of it and probably are getting at least decent value there.
But I tackles more important. So I I think think I would lead

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Toms not not saying that Jaylen Johnson's is bad because
honestly, again, relative to about, you know, 3-4 guys in
front of him, it feels like a value.
So and and not to mention like he's getting 19 AAV and then
like Paulson Adibo, the giants gave him 18 per year.
Those two are not close. I that's kind of wild.

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So yeah, there's a lot of free agents that got that $18 million
a year tag. Murphy got it going back to
Minnesota, Charvarius Ward, Indy, Carlton Davis off of an
off of a major injury going to the Patriots, and then obviously
the aforementioned Devo. So yeah, we pay him earlier.
It it, it looks better in a yearor so.

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Prince Capsaicin says. Evening gents Brian Maffy says
the question for Belton is if hecan keep his weight down.
Played in the three 40s last year.
I, I have to imagine, particularly since the Packers
are cross training him at tackleand would like him to continue
to get reps at tackle, they willwant to have him get lead.

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I I mean, you know, not that youwant a skinny guard, but I, I, I
think that he had excessive weight for a guard last year.
They're they're going to want him to get in better in in the
NFL shape. I mean for sure.
So, and if it doesn't happen, draft more offensive lineman.
It's fine, which they should do.They should do anyways.

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Yeah, yeah, should be doing it anyway, especially if if Ryan
Sheed and Elton are out. I mean that's kind of a given
anyway. So, yeah, I mean, it's it's
going to kind of be at least what I've seen in the mock
drafts that are really here. There's a lot of expectations
for this tackle class as we go into into the fall.
So where do we want to go? I mean the question we could do

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the star question we could I also the on this to the H the
Packers training camp does not have the updates we would like
to see because we're antsy, but we do have 2 new players for the

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Packers. Packers signed an Irish kicker
to go along with their Irish punter is Brandon McManus not
also well, I I don't think he's like from Ireland.
I think he just is has Irish heritage does sure isn't he?
Yeah, but that I mean that I I you know throw it in the bucket.

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Sounds like we need to get a long snapper like that, which
you know, I made a joke on Twitter on Twitter, but I don't
think I can make it on the pod here about by the long snapper
situation. Basically just hinting that
you'd have to do something aboutMatt Orszak and fending off his

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his attacks, legal or otherwise,that he will launch on any new
long snappers we're trying to bring in.
I mean, we already saw what he did to Goudy and Mark Murphy and
then policy to make them. I mean, look, do you all think
that Mark Murphy is retiring because of the minimum age
requirement? Not So.

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He's retiring because Matt Orszack told him to.
There you go. Matt Orszack runs this team.
Yeah, Derpy Entertainment says I'm just here for the Mountain
Dew hat. I need a redacted hat.
That's what I really need. Do they have redacted hats?

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Well, I'd have to make a hat that has the redacted logo that
2 Wolf has made for us. Oh, yeah, they do.
They do. Yeah.
You know what? All right, look, I'll, I'll drop
the meme for 1/2 second and put the I'll.
I'll share the the hat. Here it is, 321 share, share.

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Sometimes it doesn't want to share in it.
Yeah. We just can't get it done.
I don't know. There we go.
It's pretty sick. So So they do have that hat, all
right, That's all you can see ofit.
They do. Derschel brings up the other big
Packers news, which was the renovated locker room.
It looks sick. Let me pull the pictures here.

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Actually, I already have it open.
I need the. Pictures for sure.
Hold on a second stinking thing is driving me crazy.
It does not like I thought the sharing the the redacted energy
hat was 100% a bit and I I really liked it, but the the

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fact that it is actually not working is tough.
So I'm going to Packers Twitter instead, because the other thing
I was trying to share is not sharing.
So they they did. They posted a whole bunch of
pictures in a in a little video.So here's here's the pictures of

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the new Packers locker room. I promise it's trying to share.
I promise. We're working on it.
We're working on it. Oh, come on, one more time.

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Get on screen. There it is.
All right, we have our new locker room.
I got to say, this looks so muchbetter than than the previous
rendition, which I don't think had changed like basically since
Brett Favre was there. Yeah.
So they've, they've got the pictures here.
You can see the like light boxes, the helmets and the

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jerseys. It looks great.
I would love to go in there. Yeah, that'd be cool to see.
Have you been in the Packers locker room?
No, I I've taken the tour at Lambeau that gives you
everything except for the lockerroom.
Gotcha. But I didn't take the locker
room one. They do.
They've got a little music here.OK, I'll put it really low.

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Yeah, that's cool. It's good stuff.
Shoulder pads, helmet. I love all the lights, all the
subtle lights and the glass. It's classy.
The old Packers locker room. I think the G is too small.

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The G on the hats, on the ball caps.
Yeah. I don't like it.
It's it's throwing me off. Come on.
That's gorgeous. See, Like that's.
Yeah, we're in on that Brian Muffy says Packers about to DMCA
strike. Packers should love us because

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that would be that would be verySEC of them OK, that'd be very
SEC of them. We don't need to think that
being. I think SEC would be bragging
about recruiting rankings and strengthen schedule against each
other, but not against both that.
But on their downtime they like to strike creators for trying to

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get the word out on their players.
How many times have you been DMCA?
D by the SEC. Four.
Wow. Drew says everyone hates missing
on a kicker, but how is it different than missing on a wide
receiver? Well, the the difference he's
talking about this above as well.
I'm actually a big fan of using late round picks on special
teams because you can get the guy you like the best with a

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pick where you usually cut the guy enemies.
The. The data would tell you that
nobody is good at scouting kickers, that it's just kind of
a crapshoot and you should just grab a free agency kicker and
stick with him until it still starts to work.
The data would Also, the data would tell you that despite our

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increasing knowledge about wherethe surplus value is in the
draft and how to attack it and what a good plan is and looking
at values of trades you know from a lot of perspectives and
using all that. It would also tell you that like
it's still a lottery and I'd want all of my swings to be
looking at potential starters. I'm not, I'm not looking like,

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oh, cool depth. No, like I, you, you want to
believe in something on day three.
I, I love the Howie Roseman's approach that they talked about
on the, on their behind the scenes draft stuff this year.
Like, yeah, go, go swing. You hit two out of six somehow
in the starter department on daythree.
Like you walk away with that like completely, completely

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enamored with your draft. Like that's I, I would just
rather not do that. And, and, and the other part is
of like, hey, like there's a lotof UDF as right, that are going
to contribute. So like if, if you're, if you're
busy and active on the UDFA market, like that should also
work in your favor when it comesto special teams players.

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So I thought of AI, thought of an analogy.
Yeah, I was thinking about the 49ers and the Bears drafting
specialists really high in the third or fourth round.
Tampa Bay, Roberto, Ohio, secondround.

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Heck, Bengals, your brother tweet.
That's why you draft a kicker. And then like they cut him like
less than a year later. The Bengals did that.
Yeah, it was the Bengals. Yeah.
How long ago was that? Maybe two years ago.
They tweet tweeted it. OK Thought of an analogy,
though. So McPherson doesn't kick for

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them anymore? I don't think so.
Am I crazy? I think you are, unfortunately,
yeah. 2021 fifth round pick. He is still on the team now.

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It doesn't mean he's doing well,right.
Remember what what later happened that made that?
That's why you dropped a kicker tweet so funny from the Bengals.
There was something that happened.
It was the IT was the game with was that still the game with
like Crosby and like him missed a bunch of kicks?
Was that no, that that was multiple years prior.
That was the 2021 season that that game happened.

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Well, that would have been that would have been correct then.
He was a fifth round pick in 21.But no, but I'm saying like
their tweet, their tweet was in 2022 and then something happened
in 2023 that made that tweet look really silly.
I thought it was that he got butbut I guess, I mean, obviously
he still brought him. Maybe they brought him back, but

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I don't know. I think he got benched or
something. That could be.
But anyways, carried 2 kickers. I was thinking about these these
teams, you know, drafting these specialists really high and
then, you know, it just never works out.

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And it reminded me of a tweet that I saw about the late, great
Ozzy Osbourne's passing. It was Andrew Yang tweeted
something like rest in power Ozzy Osbourne, true American
original. I just lost it so close to this

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mark. Looks like Green Bay also had
Josh Jacobs walking around with a mini mic tour in the locker
room. I'm interested to see that.
Just under three. That sounds awesome though, that
one. But yeah, by the way, just.
He loves the Zach Tom contract, by the way.
I want to put that out there. I also love the Zach Tom, which

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we. Yeah, I think I think pretty
unanimous on that front, which is which is great.
I did just want to just clarify to make sure everybody knows
that the the reason I thought the Ozzy Osbourne tweet was
funny is 'cause he's not American.
Boobs. Born in England.
Yeah. Just want, just want.
Didn't want people to think thatI was, like, crapping on Ozzy.

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No, no. Drew, did you guys know Ed
Policy's dad works for the 49ers?
He did. And I think also the Browns,
too. But he definitely won.
We don't need. We don't need to talk about the
minors. Let me talk about that one.
The Niners or just the Niners isfine.
Thank you. What Brian Mafi, Josh Jacobs

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said redacted as gross. Get out of town.
He did not. That's tough.
That's tough. He did not say that.
Drew says just got here. What positions do you think we
will target highly in 2026? I don't know how it's not corner

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and defensive tackle. I don't know how it's not those
two. It's offensive line.
That's why potentially we at least have a bunch of bodies in
the building at offensive line. Yes, high, you know, highly
drafted bodies in the building. You don't have to like the
picks. They're at least they if, if she

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leaves, if they don't bring backJenkins and they let Shawn Ryan
walk, you know, I would guess that I, I still don't think 3 is
coming back, right? But I still don't think Rasheed
is, is leaving. I, they, I, I, I think they're
going to pay a lot of money for the old life.

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We'll, we'll, we'll, we'll see what happens, but I think
they'll pay him. And I think that that will not
be the end of the conversation on this podcast about and
getting paid like we're you, youand I are going to continue to
talk about for a long time afterit.

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Happens. Brian Murphy says Jenkins is
gone in 2026. That theory is out there.
It's prevalent. That would be my, that would be
my guess that we really answer Bruce's question about what
Elton was going to, what was going to happen.
We haven't done that yet. I think we we did, we brought it

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up. I just want to throw this out
there because we were talking about Rashid teams with the most
cap space, OK, at this moment intime going into 2026, the
Chargers are first. I think that number is obviously

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going to go down. They're going to pay Slater,
they've got Alt, that's going tobe a no.
For V dog. Unless I think he can play
guard, which I don't know why they'll do that.
Las Vegas at 100, potentially, Potentially Tennessee if they
don't like Dan Moore, which, youknow, something tells me that

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that contract's not going to look good.
Probably Week 7. Would they, would they do it
again? Maybe not, maybe that's a little
bit too much. The LA Rams if if Stafford does
not play next year, which there's like a massive I think

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it's like 40 million by the new league year or a few years.
Few days after that. If he's not on the roster they
go like young QB. They go draft somebody because
they got the Falcons first roundpick lol.
Could maybe want to upgrade a line, could maybe throw a bag at
him, possibly Washington, you know, they're all in.

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They're going to do whatever they want to do.
Hey, we traded for Tonsil and Debo.
You think we won't? We won't pay a tackle.
So there will be options for him.
I know the Bengals have 66 million in cap that's going to
go up. They don't like paying anybody
outside of three players. So.
But yeah, that'll be interestingto see.

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Brian, we started your question.Don't you worry regarding
Elton's, he's I, I think he's not like straight up not going
to play in 2025 until they give him a reworked deal.

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That's. That's probably going to include
some extra money and probably going to contain injury
guarantees, some level of injuryguarantees.
And I would almost, I would almost state emphatically that I
think that's the hold up right now and like why no deal has

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gotten done yet. Is.
Disagreeing about the injury guarantees, yeah.
And then it'll be interesting tosee if either side wants to add
years to the deal. And I, I, I could see both sides
having incentive to not want to add years to the deal.

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So right now Elton is due 11.7 mil in base salary this year and
then he's got $1.1 million in incentives.
That would be workout bonus and roster bonus, game roster bonus.

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So 12.7. Now I mean there's some dead cap
in there that doesn't affect anything in terms of his
compensation. But if you look at look at
centers across the league. So with his guarantees he is
making 12.8 mil this year which puts him at the as the third

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highest, sorry fourth highest paid center in the NFL.
Or the shoot, 12345678910111213141516,
seventeenth highest paid left tackle and then at left guard

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that would put him 12345678, so he'd be the ninth highest paid
left guard. Him moving to center is good for
the team and it's very bad for Elton.

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It's a financially devalued spot.
They are asking him to put in a lot of work to make the
transition. So I do think that he has a
right to be frustrated if they're not willing to

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compensate him. I think you should be
compensated for the move. And I would say that you should
be looking probably at left guard when you're deciding how
much to pay him because althoughhe can play left tackle, he
hasn't been playing left tackle for several years.

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Yeah. So I, I, I, I think left guard
is, is where it's at. So Landon Dickerson is the
highest paid left guard according to Over the Cap with
the average per year of $21 million.
It's almost 10 mil more than what Elton's getting now.

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Over the Cap says that he's getting that his his contract,
his existing contract was 17 milaverage.
But when we're when we're looking at what he's getting
paid this year and by the way, next year his base salary jumps
up to 18.5 and he's got 15, not fifteen $1.5 million in.

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Bonuses. Which would put him right at $20
million. Yeah.
So he is, his cap hit is 8% nextyear.
Yeah, next year the dead cap be a cut would be only 4.8 seems
very doable in that regard. But yeah, I think it's going to

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again come down to if what what this one how the standoff looks
during camp here and and you know what exactly he's going to
look for. Are they going to meet in the
middle on something because he'smoving?
Is there some kind of incentive they're going to add on?
I don't know, but he is. I mean, the base salary of 18

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1/2 next year. It's it's a big number.
It's a big number. And and there's a lot of money
coming into that old line right now, especially, you know, JJ,
if if they do go the route of paying Rasheed Walker, right?

(35:55):
I think that obviously would signal, you know, not looking,
not looking good in terms of those chances, but get a lot of
hypotheticals to work through. But yeah, the, the, the Jenkins
contract is interesting. I just don't know if I just
don't know how much Green Bay isgoing to be willing to budget.

(36:18):
Part of the problem as I see it,is that he's over the next two
years with his bonuses in place,he is set to average $16.4
million each. Next two years.
Over the cap values him a lot lower than that.

(36:42):
Over the cap values him at 9.735mil.
And they have this graph. I'm just going to share it on
screen here. They have this graph.
Oh, look at that. It actually shared.
It's nice. Wow.

(37:02):
Can I make this more narrow, maybe a little There we go check
that out. So they have this so so they're
saying their valuation of him is9.735 and down here they have a
week by week valuation. So they valued him at 16 mil in

(37:25):
week 1 and week 4. His final week 17 valuation they
clocked at 14. Excuse me, 14 now and then you
can see. Wow.
Oh, my throat needs some redacted energy it would seem.

(37:47):
I really do. Oh.
There. You go, you can see that they
did not like his middle of the season very much at all.
No. In fact, in Week 11, they valued
him at one point $1.8 million. It's not great.

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Drew asks. Is PFF grading Elton as a guard
or a center? Well, they're great.
They're grading him as what he played as should be left guard
last year. So starting this year, yeah, his
grades are going to be logged asa center.
So I, I don't, I, I don't know of any reason why your grade
would change based on what position you're playing.

(38:27):
Your grade should just be your grade should just be, hey,
here's what you did from snap tosnap to snap.
So Jake, am I still having mic issues?
You did, you did have a little bit of a kind of a puff there

(38:49):
briefly, but after after I said after I messaged you and it it's
been fine. Just that one there.
I don't know, Drew said. Sorry, I meant is over the cap
evaluating his value at guard orcenter.
That's a good question. I would say it's probably just I
would assume it's guard since they have him listed right now

(39:12):
in the guard. Yeah, there you go.
Yeah, I don't know. I don't.
I would love to know if anythingchanges for them, because I
would say center is a more valuable position.
He didn't miss any time in 2024,right?
Played almost 99% of offensive snaps.

(39:34):
It's pretty good. It's pretty good.
So anyways, I, I, I, I guess we kind of have to probably pick a
number to slap on here. And I, I would say at his age,

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he's, he's 30 right now. So the only left guard who,
who's being paid more than him, who's older than him will be Joe
Thooney with the Bears who got 17 1/2.
So I would I would say that the age would factor in for me at

(40:21):
least a little bit. Yeah.
And I don't know how that 17 1/2number or 17 or whichever it is,
I see 17, but that 17 would put him T2IN AAV with Cam Jergens in
Philly. That'd be 3,000,000 out of

(40:43):
Dolman, who's third you got Cushionberry, McCoy, Biadesh are
the ones that are 10 and above. So I don't know, you know, if he
thinks that that that's at center though, that the, that's
at center. That's what that's what I mean.
Yeah, at center. I mean, he's, he's playing
there. So I mean that number, it's

(41:09):
pretty high relative to that position.
Now, I know that there aren't I,I, I know that there aren't a
ton of guarantees left. I think that's kind of what he
is looking for at this point. Yeah.
And and if it's a question of guarantees, I think that's maybe
easier to get a deal done. Yeah, you would think because at

(41:31):
16.4 for the next two years, I would say he's being fairly
compensated. Yeah.
Speaking of guarantees, let's talk.
Let's talk for a second about the Jerry Jones and Mike Brown

(41:55):
comments. Sure.
OK, so this is kind of wild. So first of all, let's let's
talk about the Bengals. Mike Brown's the owner of the
Bengals because it's hilarious and it's at least minorly
relevant to us for both of theirplayers.
So for first of all, Shamar Stewart, I, I just want to thank

(42:15):
the Bengals yet again for drafting Shamar Stewart because
I am positive that Goody was going to draft Shamar Stewart.
It it, it's just the most brand good against the pick ever for
sure. So Shamar Stewart right now is
at Texas A&M. He's going back to college.
Rumor has it that he is contemplating just sitting out a

(42:40):
year and re entering the 2026 NFL draft.
Now, never in my life prior to Shamar Stewart have I ever heard
of a story like this and actually gave it any credence.
Like usually I just listen to itand I go, OK, well, this is
clearly, you know, playing gameswith the front office and, you

(43:00):
know, the, the the GM is trying to get some leverage.
I mean, the biggest comparison that comes to mind immediately
for me would be Le'veon Bell, even Ezekiel Elliott.
You know, you just got cases where guys are holding out for a

(43:22):
little bit and everybody's like,oh man, are they actually going
to play? Are they going to play?
And of course they end up playing.
Shamar Stewart really might not.So Drew says now we'll end up
with TJ Watt because we didn't take Shamar Stewart.
How about that? I think you might think you
missed the news. TJ Watt signed a new deal.
A lot of money got a lot of money.

(43:43):
He is under contract, but big extent.
So Shamar Stewart, here's the new here's the new thing.
So this the Bengals clearly havegotten frustrated with how this
is going at this point and decided to do their own leaking.
And so NFL store sources startedspreading the word and then it

(44:07):
was backed up by Mike Brown himself that according to the
Bengals side of things, the guarantees are entirely to do
with things like prison time, that Shamar Stewart's side wants
his contract, contract guaranteed in case of prison

(44:29):
time. This is what the Bengals are
trying to push now. I think if you asked Shamar
Stewart's camp, they would probably, you know, have a
slightly different version of the story and tell.
And there's, you know, this is probably a team friendly story,
but I I just thank the Bengals so much for taking Shamar
Stewart so that Rudy couldn't anyways.

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Then you got Trey Hendrickson. It seems right now a little bit
of a trend developing. There are certain teams where
you go, if they draft this position, that guy's not good.
Hopefully New England, they drafted by receiver, probably

(45:15):
bad, probably Bears quarterback.Hopefully, hopefully Kyle
Williams breaks that streak for them.
But it's not been good and Bengals and defensive ends is
starting to be a a trend out there and maybe even defensive

(45:35):
lineman in general is starting to be a trend out there.
So sure, it seems like they're doing a way better job of
bringing in free agents, but as you said, they're having a
current issue with one of those free agents they brought in.
Bottom line, they need to get something done with Trey

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Hendrickson if they want to havea competent defense this year.
As somebody who enjoys fantasy football and would love to see
another 5000 yard passer, I'm OKif they don't.
Would love to see Joe Burrow 5K you know Jamar Chase 2 Ki think
that would be a very fun time trying to win 3835 football

(46:19):
games all year. You know they're probably going
to come out flat week one. They always do.
They'll probably lose the Cleveland and Kenny Pickett for
no reason. If you remember, they lost the
Patriots last year somehow and that cost them a playoff spot.
So, you know, I, I won't be mad if they don't pay him.
I think there are some some veryfun spots where Hendrickson can

(46:41):
be a force, including 1265 Lombardi Ave.
Just saying. Yeah, if if, if they don't pay
Trey Hendrickson, you know, I I don't care at all on the Bengals
front because I'm just not an AFC fan.
Like, OK, anytime there's any talented free agent who's
available, if he's not going to the Packers, I want him to go to

(47:02):
the AFC. Like just make that conference
be a bloodbath, please. Sure.
But like, you know, if the Packers don't get a deal done
with him, I would like the Bengals or somebody else in the
AFC to sure get that taken care of because there's a there's a
couple of teams in the NFC. Certainly they do.

(47:26):
It would be really scary if theycould beef up their defensive
line a little bit. Yes, Packers are one of them.
Heck yeah. They have a decent rocket.
I I can't imagine Detroit passing to as well,
unfortunately. Well, that's that's that's where
I was going too. Yeah, but you know who else
does? San Francisco.

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That's the that's the other teamI think of.
Yeah, So and and that's where I think he'll go.
I think he'll go to San Francisco.
My, that's something really funny.
He's great. He's what's the stat there?
There's three guys. It's TJ Watt and like Lt. and

(48:09):
Trey Hendrickson, and they're the only three guys to average
17 or more sacks three straight years in a row, right?
The pressures, the pressure rate.
Hendrickson's been on another level, right?
A level that I think, yeah, deserves that money.
Now, he's kind of in an unfortunate spot with where he's

(48:29):
at age wise that I'm not sure. And that's the thing.
The Packers of all teams are notgoing to get in a bidding war
with the NFL, right? For a 30 year old pass rusher,
it's not happening, right? The Niners might, Detroit might.
Yep. Detroit, Philly might.
Philly's in that 30 million range.

(48:49):
I I think, you know, you want tohave some fun little three team
trade action. You don't want to pay Parsons.
Cool. How about go get Hendrickson?
We'll take Parsons Cincinnati needs like online.
Maybe we could send somebody there for them.
You know, you really you start getting this thing rolling here.
It could be could be interesting.

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Have we had any three team trades like since the year 2000?
I don't think so. There is one in like 87 that I
remember happening. It was like the Colts and the
Rams and somebody else, somebodywho was it feel like it was an
orange team, maybe the Bengals. No, it wouldn't be the Bengals.
I don't know, Ghost. It was the Broncos, Broncos,

(49:34):
Rams, Colts, Broncos, Lions, Colts.
Yeah, I'm all for the three three team trading the NFL.
Good. Let's get some more of those.
Yeah, 100%. There's a couple things that the
NFL should borrow from the NBA and one of those is multi team
trades. Yes.
Because it increases the entertainment factor for us.

(49:57):
Armchair GI don't know, that's like, I don't know.
That's kind of like though the NFL getting the final Infinity
stone like that I feel like is like what the NFL doesn't have.
They have everything else. I feel like if they got that, I
think everybody else is just, you know, done.
Everybody else is like, well, what do we do now?
What's our draw? That's different, you know, what

(50:19):
do we have that they don't? Nothing so that that would be
tough for for the rest of of thesports world, but it hey, it
would be entertaining, no question.
Drew says. Why wouldn't the Packers go
after him? We have Gary.
We could use an older guy next to him and then where is it?
And he said Goody has a history of bringing in free agency pass

(50:41):
rushers. He doesn't have a history of
going after 30 year olds and paying them top of market and
and outbidding other teams for him.
If the Packers are going to outbid other teams for a guy,
it's going to be somebody young.Think Xavier McKinney.
Yeah. Like that's kind of the only
notable example of it happening.We outbid everybody else for

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Xavier McKinney because he's crazy young and crazy talented
and crazy consistent. The Yeah.
The thing is, is like, why? I think a lot of people were
more into the idea of like, hey,one year Khalil Mack would be
interesting is because he is older and he's not asking for a
multi year deal, right? He it's, it's 18 million from

(51:26):
the Chargers to come back, right?
That's that's what he gets. Hendrickson is making in the AAV
department 21 million a year. Based on that production that he
has put forth, it is almost a guarantee that he is going to
ask for A at least three years and it's probably going to be in
the neighborhood of 40 million ayear.

(51:48):
OK, Think about what that cap number is going to be when he's
like 3334 years old. It's going to be astronomical.
That's why they don't do that, right?
That's why it won't happen. That's why Green Bay's swinging
at these high upside pass rushers.
That's why they would have swungat Jamar Stewart if if he was
available at their selection. So, yeah, I, I mean, Parsons,

(52:13):
yeah, would be way better at this point.
Right. Like I, he's asking for 40.
OK, fine. Whatever, you know, twists my
arm. I, you know, I'm not going to be
upset about it. Where is he on this?
Yeah, but probably we we all know Dallas is going to pay
Parsons. They're going to do it the night
before the first game of the season.

(52:34):
Yeah. Chris says you guys are special.
I think that's a compliment. It might not be.
That's Chris the casual N No, but now it's Chris N the casual
Packers fanatic. Seems like a little.
A little. I like that name better.
I like that name better because when I said your old name, I

(52:58):
felt like people were going to judge me for it.
And you know why? OK.
You were putting me in an awkward position with your old
name. I like your new name.
Oh, Chris says it was a compliment.
Thanks. And so like the that's why
again, why these teams are, you know, past rushers are going
early, right? Van Ness is getting 4.3 AAV

(53:18):
right now. You know, Verse and Robinson
chop Robinson, they're getting like 3.7, right?
Like they're these first round edge rushers.
That's why guys like Miles Murphy are going in the first
round. Why guys like Tyree Wilson are
going in the first round becauseyou see athleticism and traits
and you go, well, if this guy's you know, the surplus value on
him of a rookie contract if he hits is massive at this point.

(53:40):
Because these these top guys, right, your Watts, Garrett's
Parsons eventually and and and probably Hendrickson at some
point, maybe for another team are are at the $40 million mark,
right? And you got guys closely
following them, Hunter Crosby, Bosa sitting at the mid 30s.
So you know, versus going to get, you know, I don't know,

(54:03):
4546 when it comes around for him.
So that's the thing and and so Ithink you know that one yeah,
that one we didn't have a two wewould have trade in for him.
But I yeah, even I think I wouldhave it was tough.
It was tough. A lot of these guys verse

(54:24):
Mitchell chop going going in thethe late teens, early 20s.
That was that was tough. That was tough.
BTJ still had an opportunity to ref Cooper to Junior Lad, but,
you know, that's, it's in the past now.
You know, we don't bring that upanymore.
The Packers just tweeted a little teaser of their new

(54:48):
uniform. Do you want to see it?
Did you hear the Packers just tweeted a teaser of their new
uniform? Yeah, let's, let's, let's do it.
All right. And I do.
I do mean teaser. It's definitely a teaser.
I'm gonna rewind 07/24/25. Sick.

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Oh, that's not tomorrow. That stinks.
Wow, the clue MCN look all the blue.
Well, we got to, we got to we got to freeze this.
That's what we got to do. I'm going to try and pause it on
the wow, it's hard to do. Yes, it is.

(55:30):
Here we got. There we go.
All right, that looks like a blue helmet to me.
You know what it looks like honestly, not a gold helmet.
Can I? I'm going to throw some out
there. I, I, I think, OK, so look at
the bottom right and left, right.
That looks very traditional, youknow, type of thing.
But if you, if you go up higher,gosh, it looks like a leather

(55:54):
helmet. Well, I, I do think they're
doing the fancy Illinois leatherhelmet.
I absolutely do think that's going to look like fancy
Illinois man, But is it gonna round that that many helmets?
Look in eight seconds. Look.
Look at here. Stitching.
You see a stitching right here? Oh, yeah.
And then right here as well. Stitching.

(56:17):
Hold on. I got it.
I got a screenshot. This.
How dare you, Drew Gross. Absolutely not.
It's fancy Illinois blue. What do you say?
He said it's me. It said it's team.
Don't say the word. Don't say the word.
I didn't. I'd say it.
I'd say it. I'd say it was.
I was going to say I have to find a new Co host real quick.

(56:38):
Wait, what's the what's the linefrom Princess Bride?
I'm just going to have to find myself a new Co host.
Oh, man. Yes.
All right, here we go. It does.
It does seem like that got the stitching.

(56:59):
Heck yeah. Fancy Illinois.
You know what I need? I need the.
Who is it? Is it is it Squidward in the
meme where he's pointing? Yes, I got it.
You also could do. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
There it is. There you go.

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There you go. There you go.
Love that. Love that boom.
Oh Braden Fisk. Don't remind me, man, don't
helmet good pass wisher bad run Fender.
Hey, that's not Packer. I don't know what is It's true.

(57:42):
I don't like him more than verse, but he's he's I
definitely don't like him more than verse, but I like him.
But like as a 1-2 punch. Holy moly, I liked.
I like that. Yep.
Is there anything else in here? Hold on.
Is there anything else? Any other clues were missing?
I mean, like, look, you got a white background.
This sure looks blue. Are we going to get Blues again?

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I don't know if it's. Yeah, I don't know if it's blue.
Boy, it looks like a leather helmet.
It really does got the vibe. What else are you seeing on here
besides the stitching that makesyou say leather, by the way?
I don't it's, it's the sides. When you go to the middle, it
just very much looks like something that yeah, when going

(58:24):
down, like just beneath, like where the face mask starts, it
just looks like the holes on theleather helmet, right.
You pull, you pull the flaps down and you got a little hole
there. Yeah, that's what I mean.
Like that's where I'm seeing. Once you go from the bottom and
you hit that, that's where you can like, oh, it pops out.
It's like a leather helmet. It's it's beginning right there
all the way to the top. That's what I'm that's what I'm

(58:47):
I'm picking up. Yeah, folks, if you want them.
Here we go. Get to the bumped up the
contrast. Get to the pro shopper early,
folks. I was just telling you so.
I I don't know. I'm a little worried about what
they're going to pair the leather helmet with.
Are we going to get Blues? I don't want the Blues.

(59:09):
It might be the Blues and Browns.
I don't. I hope it's not brown.
You you know what they're doing.They're trying brown.
Is it there? Is it what they're trying to do
is they're trying to get redemption at the poop helmet.
They're doing the poop helmet again, but redemption, that's
what they're doing. No poop.
Not saying that that's what theyshould do.
I'm saying it's what they are doing.
Drew's asking what the Illinois helmet looked like.

(59:32):
Oh, I'm glad you got here. Illinois sick and they should
wear it every year. Check this out.
Peep this. First of all, so it's not, it's
not real leather. It's it's obviously printed down
there, but the stitching's there.
That's where you pick it up and and again, see the circle right
for the hole for that, Like that's there, right.

(59:54):
And so. Oh, you're right.
Yeah. It's I I want this if I, I want
one of these so bad. This was a very important moment
in college football last year. Yes, because fancy Illinois.

(01:00:17):
Beat the pants off of the Wolverines.
They did. I was there.
It's a great time. It was beautiful.
It was it was for the rest of the season if you weren't there,
Ron says what is the that's a great that's a good question for
Ron Sanville. You have to get a much fatter
cow for that one. Actual leather guardian caps.

(01:00:41):
I'm in. They're recycling old footballs
for it. Maybe they can sell Tom Brady's
deflated footballs for that. That'd be cool.
Yes, But I just, you know, if somebody left one lane around on

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the sideline, would I have gone and grabbed it?
Probably so I think you need to put.
I think you need to put brown asmuch as I fine.
Doesn't everybody call it the poop helmet?
I it looks, it looks like yeah, it just looks like they put a

(01:01:26):
they put a whopper on a face mask.
I think of all it looks like blue Packers unis that we've
gotten. This is my least favorite.
I don't like it. It's bad.
I do have it looks like an old timey movie reveal or James Bond

(01:01:47):
is revealing the number 0. That's a good point I do have I
put together. I asked you years ago or
something. Hold on a minute here.
We absolutely did that. We did.
We did that. Fancy Illinois played the whole
rest of the season. Fancy Tier 1 Illinois were two

(01:02:08):
different teams. Fancy Illinois had its own tier,
which was the Fancy Illinois tier.
Yes, this is true. You will have to go back and
into the archives for that. It was definitely there and
Illinois, if you would like to be in your own tier again this
year, do it. And you know what you do?
Bring back Fancy Illinois and release mini helmets of that I

(01:02:29):
did. I did this Facebook post where I
Facebook Twitter post where I was looking at all the different
Packers alternates that we've had over the recent years and I
had to rank the poop helmets dead last.
But the reason I bring this up is so we can look and see the
other blue unis. Yeah, this is still bad.

(01:02:51):
This is the microwave slice of American cheese.
Look. Yeah, it is like, hey, what if
we melted cheese on just the topof the jersey?
I will say says there's no way Imissed that.
All right, you know what, Derschel?
Since you're calling me a liar, I'm gonna pull up our rankings
saying calling you a truther. I'm.
I'm gonna get this and you're gonna, you're gonna.

(01:03:12):
I will say I do like the socks. I'm in on the socks on this one.
Yeah, just the 2 yellow stripes.It's the only good.
It's the only good thing. Oh, helmet pad, the paint, the
tan pants. I agree.
No more tan tans in football. Looks like they grabbed gumballs
out of the gumball machine and said put a face mask on that.

(01:03:35):
That's all I got. That's yeah, it is.
It's a gumball helmet and then the other one's a whopper helmet
and I don't like either. Can't can't do it.
Can't do it no matter if it's far running around in that.
I just we we can't get there. Yeah and yeah, the pants, the

(01:03:56):
pants being tan is just yeah, we'll groom with coach Lynn on
this one. That's that's we'll look at the
tan pants again in a second look.
There we go Look at the created.Look at the created.
He can he can go up top, go up top real quick.
Scroll up just a second look at that October 25th, 2024 Boom.

(01:04:19):
That was either that that might have been the that was pre
Oregon game, right. I think yeah, it was yeah.
The Michigan game was was like 6days before yeah, or five days
before. Well, this is this is not when
when it was last modified. This is when I made this note.
Yes. Oh, I got you.
Well, I'm pulling up boom 'causeI don't want to share the, the

(01:04:42):
picture that you sent me, but you know the one with the type
pants. But yes, I I want to pull up
what was our first ever rankingsthat we did cause 'cause for a
while we were just DM. I was just DM ING you the
rankings. Yeah, let's see.
December. Oh yeah, you were DM ING me the

(01:05:02):
rankings. Here we go.
October 23rd. Here's October 16.
Here's October 2nd we got oh, September 11th.
That's got to be our first one. No.
September 2nd, September 2nd Hatch should be our first one

(01:05:24):
and in that one we had tier one was Penn State, Notre Dame, Ohio
State and Iowa. And it that's that's not bad.
I mean three of those four made the playoffs.
Yes, I found your master. October 23rd has fancy Illinois
on it that you sent me. Yep.
Let's see so where where was Indiana in our first radio line.

(01:05:46):
Now Indiana we had in Tier 6 with Colorado tough and BYU
nobody moved up. Wow.
Indiana, Colorado and BYU all took major jumps from there.
That's why I think our worst misses anywhere we we properly
had Wisconsin in Tier 9, that was a Michigan State,

(01:06:08):
Northwestern, Purdue, West Virginia and Missota.
I think that tier aged exactly correctly.
Yes, you have to, but we have been derailed here big time.
By the way, we had Iowa State down in Tier 7.
You know what? I can I can share this.
It's OK to look at this Packers helmet, 1932 and 33.

(01:06:29):
There was a blue base leather helmet.
Oh, you want to see that again? Stripes and then 34 brown with
blue stripe. Yeah, it's probably going to be
one of those Derschle saying he should be shunned because he for
he didn't know that fancy Illinois was in the rankings.
No, you don't get shunned because you're you're a man.
Just a warning. Yeah.

(01:06:51):
Coach Jake, did you Coach Lynn saying the Steelers new
throwbacks are terrible? I did not say that one yet.
The UNI's. Yeah, they look, it kind of
looks like you're wearing some sort of vest over it.
It's like you have this like yellow dress shirt and you're
like, I can throw a vest over. That.

(01:07:12):
Yeah, I don't. Yeah, I'm not.
I'm not in on the unis. He says that it's Kozelin also
saying the helmets are cool. I honestly forget about what the
helmet looks like. Oh yeah, because of the UNI.
So this is the the one and only time that the one and only time
that Aaron Rodgers ever plays against the Packers.
He's going to be wearing this also also go to the go back to

(01:07:35):
that really quick. This one the the socks.
I don't know if the lighting is is hurting the socks.
That is not the same color socksas the rest of the yellow.
Also the helmet might be different as well.
That could be the lighting though.
Well, that could also just be that it's a totally different
type of material. But this is yeah fabric that

(01:07:55):
that is you should be able to get those yellow socks.
I mean they got the jersey and the and the gloves to be the
same color. You should get the socks the
same. I will allow not being able to
vinyl the helmet the right color.
But what are we doing with the socks here?
Can't be doing this. Got to go elsewhere.
Black or the right yellow? You know what I say about this?

(01:08:18):
I can't believe. I just want to know.
I do like the helmet though. What the heck were they
thinking? Yeah, I agree.
They do not deserve a pat fryer muth on the back.
Boom. Boom.
They're Minka. Me regret.
I looked at that Minka. If Minka wasn't a dolphin, that
would work. It is what it is.

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It's close. Here's here.
I did want to say it must have been Alex Smith when they made
those. There we go, There we go.
Iowa State being done Tier 7, I feel like aged poorly That that
that's that's maybe the only onethat we were like way too long

(01:09:01):
besides Indiana. Like Indiana, it's the clear and
obvious. I'll layer there.
And then we had Iowa just never came close to matching what I
thought that what either one of us thought that they could do.
And I'm good with that. Tier 2 kind of all fell apart
except for Oregon. Yeah, Tier 2 is rough.

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Tier 3, This was the most disappointing tier.
QS and BC both just fell off theface of the earth.
This is true. Tier 7 Iowa State.
Yeah, one, one game from playoffs.
Yeah, it's tough. All right, look at it for more.
Oh, here's more. Tan pants.

(01:09:45):
Just quit with the tan pants. Tan pants are so bad.
Actually. Did all three of these first
ones have? Yeah, all three of these have
tan pants. Unfortunately, they looked and
the Steelers one has tan pants. They look the best with the blue
and but that's not saying much. No, no, it isn't.
It's not saying anything, but it's not good.

(01:10:06):
It's better than the other two. I love it.
Current, current away. I I don't like our our current
away. I don't think it's no, it's it's
completely unbalanced. You got the green socks and the
white jersey. It's completely unbalanced.
It's so bottom heavy. Like the oldest.
They balance. The whole design is bottom

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heavy. Keeps you balanced.
Yellow pants. Do you want green?
Yeah. You're a green helmet.
Yeah. So.
Well, you want green pants with that?
Is that what you're saying? No.
Here's what I want. Where is it?
Where is it? Here.
I want our our white color rushes.

(01:10:48):
This should be our permanent away.
OK, there's no reason. Just get rid of the white of the
green socks and the yellow pantsand make it all white.
Let the stripes carry everything.
Yeah, stripes are legit. It's so clean.
Yeah, It it is nice. All right.

(01:11:10):
And we could straight and we could go back to this.
You know we could do that if we wanted.
I would like the white helmet tostay in the rotation, but not as
like our away like I'd I'd like it like once or twice a year.
Yeah, shoot straight with me. We're just don't don't
sugarcoat, you know, and protectmy feelings or anything.

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If you could snap your fingers and decree that our a ways would
be this look, would you do it ordid you keep our current aways
for comparison, Kate. So this versus this here's
here's where I'm going to say ifthey move that I would go white

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helmet because I think the at least the helmet pants balances
there, right, which obviously balances way better with the
green, right? Not saying it doesn't, but I do
think if they go color rush, I would like the white helmet
also. And if you and if you must and

(01:12:16):
if you must again, I liked the white helmet because it didn't
have the yellow stripe in it. But if you want that yellow
stripe to stay within, you couldmake the white helmet have the
yellow stripe in between the greens and I think it completes
it. I think you're in great shape
there. I really like, that's my take,

(01:12:37):
the yellow, but I think we make the yellow do maybe too much
work when we are the Green Bay Packers.
That's true. Like I think yellow looks great
for, you know, T-shirts and duffel bags and stuff, but we
kind of make it. I think maybe too much of focal

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point of some of the UNI's that it's yellow, the yellow helmet,
yellow pants and I'm fine with it.
But then with a design like this, it's like it the yellow is
not countered by enough green. Prince Gab Saison, you and I are
on the same page, adding the yellow stripe down the side of

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the white helmets. That's if we're going to do
that. That's what I think we should
do. Coach Lynn had an idea, too.
Why can't we do green pants? He said white jersey and green
pants. That would probably balance
better. Yeah.
Be better balanced. It would definitely balance
better. Yeah.
I'm down and I, I I think, I think you could still just keep

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the keep the traditional Packersyellow helmet and then you're,
you're not running into like Jet's confusion, Drew said.
Maybe there's a rule of the jersey and pants can't be the
same unless it's color rush. Aren't the I don't think that's
right because aren't don't the Bears wear like their Navy color

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all the time? I don't think they'd.
And the Texans, I don't know forsure.
I do think the Texans do well and the Chargers just unleashed
a bunch of unis and all their combos and they can combo the
same color if they want. They've got the all Navy,

(01:14:27):
they've got the all powder blue.They've got the all white.
They have all yellow, which no. Well, I I've seen some Packers
all yellow. I have, yeah.
I I will say if you go look at the those those last year's
alternate green pants with the white, I think it works.

(01:14:48):
So many, so many needs to make that happen.
Whoa, yeah, that's the all the all Yellow doesn't really do it
for me because it look, it just look like like soccer.
Like the green on yellow looks soccer.
Yeah, it does look very Brazilian national team.
Now this, the white pants, that's interesting.

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I think I don't like the green tree number on the yellow
problem. It doesn't look green outline
with a white number. That's what it is.
Yeah. That's what they need to do.
The green. It does.
Yeah, it does. When the glare hits, it's not
not very helpful, but I can see those green pants with the white

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and then it looks. Yeah, that's interesting.
We have we have two for the white helmets.
We stay in the yellow pants, white jersey, green pants.
This is Coach Lynn. Yeah, it does.
There is an arena foot. Yeah, that's true.
There is an arena football kind of feel to those the all

(01:15:53):
yellows. Yeah.
So, yeah, they're they're look at the see those four uni
combos, which one on the top left from what you can see.
And it's like that if I'm looking at that white and the
green and I'm trying to picture it, I'm liking what I'm
picturing. OK, walk, walk us through your

(01:16:15):
vision here. Well, yeah, I just.
If we. Yeah.
There it is. There it is.
There's the yellow stripe of thehelmet.
We're good. That's it.
That's the one right there. The yellow stripe is the
feature. And we're all man.
Yeah, I'm in, I'm in. Right there.
No, no. Which one says if we wear a
traditional jerseys at home and always though traditional

(01:16:38):
jerseys home and away, we alwayswear yellow pants.
Is there a reason for that? Well, yeah, the the away uniform
includes yellow pants. I just think it's a bad look.
I think the away uniform should not have yellow pants.
It should have white like the green.
Now, I think I'd be OK with green.
I'd be OK with green. White pants doesn't look right.

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I think part of my problem that is that I, I think, I think
again, part of my problem, like I, I just don't like, like when
we're in somebody else's stadiumand we're just standing there
with, you know, a mostly white uniform.
And then just like yellow pants.First of all, it looks like the
guys are wearing like cheese pants or that they peed their

(01:17:24):
pants or something. And it's just like I I don't
like having the yellow pants be like the the focal feature of
the uniform. Have something else drawing your
attention besides yellow pants. Sure, when you got a nice dark
green jersey, that's what draws your eye in.
And then the yellow pants are really nice compliment that

(01:17:45):
enhances the yellow stripes in the jersey for sure.
Lynn says, Why do we only have one pants?
Well, I mean, like our our ultimate can have them when we
had. Let me let me go back to this
one here. OK, here's tan pants, obviously,
which don't count, but but hold on.
Where are we? OK, here's #1 where did it go?

(01:18:10):
Here we go. Here's green pants.
These look fantastic. Yes, you can do that with the
white jersey. Absolutely.
I don't think you can do the green jersey with the white
pants like that. That picture of my head is not a
good one. I'm not liking it.

(01:18:32):
I think the I think you got to stick with green and the yellow
pants. That that one when I was looking
at those four uni combos, it that looked weird.
I don't like it. I like the white and the green,
though. We definitely do that.
Yeah, these, these are great. Just slap the other helmet on.

(01:18:53):
We don't. We don't need the gumdrop
helmet. We don't need that.
I'm looking. For I don't want the gumdrop
helmet because then it feels like, oh, did Oregon just drop
this? And it's like, we don't yeah, we
don't. Like can you not see those Nike
wings on the yellows? That's just I can't, I can't

(01:19:14):
tell. It might be, it could be or it's
like, no, put put the G on there.
Use the G man OK, all right, tool for this is saying is here
tool for this is here and says did you guys know Zach Tom got

(01:19:34):
paid? Yes, not much gets past too old
for this. Here's big big if here's here's
what I had in mind as far as if you did do the all yellows.
Is this his idea? This is how you this is how you
get rid of the OR get away from doing the the green letters on
the yellow jersey, which I didn't like.
Is this the Greg white letters with the green outline?

(01:19:56):
Is this Greg Jennings wearing 12?
This is Randall Jennings. OK, OK, he's a running back.
I see. You know, he's he's the running
back. But look, see.
So this is I didn't like. Where is it?

(01:20:19):
So I don't like this one. I think there's a lot of yellow.
I don't like this where it's thegreen letters on the yellow.
Yeah, but if you go with my ChatGPT mock up instead
lettering where it's a white letter with a green outline that
one I think you could get away with doing this with do do all

(01:20:40):
yellow. You could you could I I so I
love it. Does do can you see them from
space? Yes, absolutely, but if like
absolutely different. I'm not going to say Packer
fans, I'm going to say like NFL content creators have been
asking for a Packers color rush that's all yellow for a while.

(01:21:05):
If you're going to do that, I think this is more in line with
something that would work than the mock ups we saw when we
Google imaged it. Drew says it needs green pants.
Are you talking about this or the previous one saying this
needs green pants, this needs green pants.

(01:21:25):
At that point, though, it's justlike, yeah, but it's it's
opposite. Oh, well, you know, I think that
the Packers struggle a little bit with like, going with
something that's brand new, not based on anything we've done
before, for sure. So, OK, we did pitch.
Jake, this is for you. We pitched an idea and I don't

(01:21:48):
think that 4 karat gold, Yes. OK, you you pitched an idea,
which was the white jersey with green pants.
Yes. And the white helmet with a
yellow stripe. Do you want to see what that
looks like? Yes.
Oh, man. I think there's a little bit of

(01:22:09):
improvement needed on this. Like the yellow cleats don't
really work, I don't think. And then like the yellow stripe
on the pants I kind of think needs to be maybe maybe white
stripes with a yellow in the middle.
This is slick, man. Give me this all day.

(01:22:30):
This is this is Drew and Coach Len are both in there.
We're both in. They are both in.
I I like this lot of potential here.
Lot of potential here. But will Twitter like it?
That's the question. I don't know, but I'm I'm in.
I'm in, though. This is this is this is what we

(01:22:52):
want? Yes, yes, coach Len, send that
in to Ed policy. I agree too old for this is not
in. I don't know.
It looks better. There's a guy green socks.
It makes the green socks look better.
There's a guy named Greg Harris who reserved the Twitter handle

(01:23:14):
at policy and I I'm just going to tweet him forever now.
That's tough. His Twitter handle is Ed policy
because his topic is education policy.
I'm sorry, but I want Packer fans to make this a thing now.
We're just going to tweet at Greg.
You're just going to tweet at him.
That's it's tough. It's tough.

(01:23:37):
I am like in the middle of the game will be like, though, be
like Ed at policy. This game is not going the way
we need to go. Have a talk at a policy.
How could you not trade for TreyHendrickson?
Are you? Have you seen the lack of
pressure we're getting right now?

(01:23:57):
Oh man, with the green helmets man, I don't.
Green helmets are the struggle of all struggles for me.
Although I will say, if you don't like this, I think there's
like 2 reasons why you wouldn't like this.
One is you like the tradition, you like how it's set up, you

(01:24:21):
like the white and yellow. You don't want to, you don't
want to stray, totally fine, totally good.
The other is you think it looks too much like The Jets and
that's where I think some yellowis important.
And that's why maybe the white helmet is a little problematic.
Now, you see, when you go yellow, the the Devante guy has

(01:24:42):
a nice big G on his helmet and that helps.
And then white Alan Lazard slashwhite Octavian Wicks.
I'm trying to think which I'm trying to think which Packers
tight end he looks like, which Packers tight end does that guy
look like? Corliss.
All right, Corliss Lazard heels on balance, he doesn't have the

(01:25:05):
G and it's way too jet C. Yellow helmets could work.
It could work. Yeah.
The Jet C thing I could understand if you're like kind
of, you know, but that's where the yellow comes in.
And then again, if you're traditionalist, you like the you
like the white and the yellow, that's fine.
OK Drew thinks there's enough yellow that's not jets.
That's good. We like that.

(01:25:30):
OK, Just let it let it be known you guys are asking for a lot of
different concepts and that I can only make the robot work so
fast. So I'm.
I'm doing what I can. Yeah.
And I'm only the draft robot, soI cannot work on this.
I'm not the uniform robot, unfortunately.

(01:25:50):
I can. Uniform robot.
Hold on a second. Wait a minute.
How do I do this? I know there's a way.
Yeah. Here it is.
Here it is. Enter.
There we go. Now you're the uniform robot,

(01:26:11):
Drew says you never finished thehelmet video, did you?
The helmet video. Jake, What's the helmet video?
What's the helmet video? Did you have a helmet video that
you're supposed to do on your other channel?
No, Drew, what are you referringto?
Oh, is he talking about the, the, the teaser?

(01:26:33):
Oh, we did that Yeah. That was no, that's all it was.
It was literally a teaser. Yeah, there was they did the
flash, they did the flash and then they did Amfam 7/24/25.
That's all. It was very short.
I, I was wondering if they were going to show me.
We showed the whole trailer like7 or 8 times.
It was just on loop. I, I can play it again.
I was wondering if they weren't going to do different shots on

(01:26:55):
there at all. OK, look, see it's it's a 10
seconds deal and like over half of it is 7/24/25 with the
basically I will say that's another thing we should be
looking at here, right there, right there.
See the colours looks very Brewers yellow, Yeah, looks very

(01:27:17):
Brewers colours at the moment. So there you go.
There there is the Brewers are hot right now.
Yes they are. But see some blue and some
either some that's either some tan or yellow.
What? Remind me who your remind me who
your baseball team is again, It's Saint Louis.
Oh, OK. Yeah, I I thought like, you

(01:27:41):
know, Green Bay and Milwaukee that was anti Chicago, but we're
not coming at Chicago from all directions.
And so I really want to make sure that we're surrounding them
on all sides and that's that's why I'm going with that.
A Miller helmet, I think this islike 2 jetsy now and I'm

(01:28:08):
actually I don't like it. NDS like the green this is this
is no, that's that's the vibe. Yeah, NDS, yeah, I'm not in on
the helmet. We need the yellow.
I think I don't like the green helmet that much.
No, me either. I'm I'm not in the green helmet
definitely says Jets or North Dakota or Michigan State.
I hate what else has a green helmet.

(01:28:29):
Oh, oh, you know what it looks like.
Oh man, there's ACFL team. I know there is.
Gosh. I couldn't tell you a single.
It looks like the Edmonton Elks.That's such a cool name.

(01:28:50):
All right, there's the Calgary Stampede.
I knew. I knew ACFL team isn't the
Calgary Stampede I. Think that's right?
Yeah, trying to think Stampeders, other O Stampeders,
Yes, Well, there's two. I don't think there's two.
There's two obvious ones. They've been really good.
They're mostly good for a long time.

(01:29:11):
Montreal Alouettes and the Toronto Argonauts OK, those are
the 2 like big bigs all right. I do know the Argonauts and I
almost said Alouettes and then Ithought no, I think it's a
different sport. Alouette yes, the robot is
working so very slowly. Yes, on this next one.

(01:29:33):
And all I see so far is just theface and it looks like Jimmy G+
Pat O'Donnell. Oh, man.
Yeah. So so the the one that this is
is basically just their current away, except with green pants
instead of yellow pants. And I'm really excited to see
this. I feel like it's going to be

(01:29:54):
does Edmonton not have a green? Edmonton might not have a green
helmet. We'll look at Edmonton in a
second. Here's here's our news.
Yeah, that's fine. There we go.
Now I don't like the way he's wearing it.
Like, it's way too high. He's got like the 1940s like
waistband up to your nipples look that my great grandpa

(01:30:17):
always wore his His waistband isway too high.
But as far as the and also like these are like full pants.
These are like full pants. Like you could do yellow socks.
Yeah, you could. Yellow socks, I think.
Would be maybe the play. White socks might have to go.
Not white shoes then. Might not have to go.

(01:30:38):
Do you want white socks or yellow socks?
I don't know. Surprise me.
I like that. We're just down the uniform
rabbit hole tonight. We didn't even.
Well, the chat is not bringing the the football questions.
There are some. There are some.
I do have some stuff. Brian Malfi, are you still in
here? I don't know.

(01:30:58):
It's a good question. Let's, let's do it.
Yeah, let's do these divisional ones -60 mil in cap space next
year. How did that happen?
That is impressive since they don't have a quarterback.
I can tell you how. Who wasn't this?
I can tell you how they've done this.
For one, who's Ryan O'Neal? Aaron Jones is carrying a

(01:31:23):
$16,000,000 cap hit in the next year, for one.
OK, Jones. They signed.
They signed Javon Hargrave and Jonathan Allen, both are
carrying 21 and change in cap numbers had in in 2026, OK.
By the way, Allen's carrying a 23 million into 2027.

(01:31:46):
You know, Van Ginkle's got 19,000,000 cap cap hit next
year. Granard's got a $22 million cap
hit next year. Who?
Justin Jefferson is carrying a $38 million cap hit into next
year. You got offensive line 38,

(01:32:08):
O'Neill and yeah, 38.9. O'Neill and Darris are both
carrying 23, according to this. Basically, outside of Justin
Jefferson, yeah, Quasi's entire strategy has been.
Let's get like above average players at every single spot in
the roster. They have no superstars other

(01:32:30):
than Justin Jefferson, but they've got above average
everywhere. But they've kind of had to like
overpay for all that. Above average.
I will say Grenard. Grenard definitely worth the 22
based on last year's play. Derosol, I think is worth the
23. But I, I, yeah, Dare is a

(01:32:52):
superstar. Yeah, they are.
Again, Wolf Rise is projected ofa $17 million cap hit next year.
That is a that's exactly what you're talking about.
That and then the, you know, Jonathan Allen way past the
prime years at this point. And, and again, Hargrave getting
a massive number as well. They're both over 21, like

(01:33:13):
million. They've got some promising young
guys on the roster. They do.
But like, they kind of need to win with JJ McCarthy on a rookie
contract for sure. Because if they have to pay him
or if they have to pay any quarterback, like this is just
not sustained next year. Look, I want to see what their

(01:33:34):
draft picks are next year, what they've got.
Vikings cast of draft picks for 2026.
Still a bit unclear. Dude, they don't have any cap
space in 2027 either. Oh, no, no, they're going to be
doing Saints stuff. They're going to be pushing out
a lot. I know.
Again, as you said, they need they need this to work.

(01:33:56):
The McCarthy thing has to work for them, which I mean, it very
well might. I mean, he's he's yeah, yeah.
It's I'm not going to like bet against it working.
Sure. Oh, check this one.
Hold on, hold on. No, Big B, We we can't.

(01:34:22):
We can't have that. No, no.
If your audio only podcasts, you'll have to.
You'll have to tune in. Yeah, you'll have to tune in.
It's a blue. It's basically the Steelers new
throwback jersey, but reversed. It's got the best it looks like
and the googly it looks like a hand drawn bird has chemtrails.

(01:34:48):
Yeah, essentially. And then there the road dividers
are on the sleeves, right? Yeah, you can pass.
You can pass here. You can pass here on the.
I kind of want to watch Matthew Golden passing zone in slow
motion on a treadmill wearing this 22 on the back though of

(01:35:09):
the jersey. They better not wear those at
Pittsburgh. I I swear, I'm going to that
game. I think that's going to be the
ugliest match up since since Titans Jags, where the Jags
tried to do that all tannish brown nonsense.

(01:35:29):
That was gross. Yeah, the brown Dijon mustard.
Yeah, Dijon. That was gross.
That that was disgusting. The Tennessee all light blue,
though, that slapped. But the problem is, is there was
another team, another team in that matchup.
Could be as bad as what happenedwith The Jets and the Bills
where everyone who was color blind was like, I don't know, I

(01:35:50):
don't know who's who big snafu there.
But like it's yeah, here we go. Here's what the here's what the
mustard looked like right here. award-winning though, at the
very least. But man, look at the cleats.

(01:36:13):
Shiny gold cleats, like, man, wehave to lean things like that.
That would be cool to lean in. It's like, no, you don't.
Shiny gold cleats that would be cool.
Julius Thomas, Jacksonville Jaguar, Julius Thomas.
I'm going to take all this moneyto go from Peyton Manning to
Blake Bortles. Will it work?

(01:36:37):
I think that the this I think isthe best color rusher.
That's sick. The Browns.
It's the all brown with orange everything.
Yep, very in. That's good.
Plus this is the helmet. They they need to do anything
with the helmet either they're like, no, we we have the helmet.
The orange it's there for the like, yes, we should make a
jersey with gold flakes so you can use the helmet again.

(01:36:58):
Yeah, I'm in. That was that that plays into
tool for this talking about the 24 karat gold idea, although I
will say the all orange by Cleveland.
No, thank you. You can see that with Baker.
I think that's pretty good. It's a classic.
This is this is the other reallygood color rush.
Yeah, they see the all yellow though.

(01:37:19):
So the Chiefs, I think the Chiefs had a good color rush
too. Oh no, that's not what I will
say. Where's the I think it's just,
it might just be the all red, which is like all 32 NFL color
rush. Well, let's just look at this.

(01:37:41):
Oh, why is it not showing? Here we go.
OK, we got the Seahawks. Gosh, man, that's the that's so
these are obviously super controversial.
I'm I'm assuming that I know where you fall.
Do you hate this or do you love it?
The action highlighter, The action green highlighter.

(01:38:01):
Yeah, it it the straight up looks like you're wearing a glow
stick, which I by the way, I seethe chat.
I'm not. I see the chat about Washington.
I don't think so. Let's let's hit color rush 1st
and then we can talk about that person.
I don't think so, but I know where you're getting too.

(01:38:24):
This. No, Was that Washington?
That's Washington. Who is this?
That's Trans Williams Bill's Bill's Colorado is good all red
Yep no notes chiefs is basicallyexactly the same Yep Rams that's
ugly. I think see all yellow is just

(01:38:46):
not a good look. It isn't a good look, but I will
say it works better with the Navy than it would with green.
And that's why we shouldn't go there.
Is that Cowboys? That's which is boring.
Yeah. It's I mean, they're using an
old uni for this. Drew said these effects they're
adding make it look worse. All right, that's fine.

(01:39:08):
That's fair. Let's go back to.
I don't know where else we couldgo.
I'm looking for, let's see, NFL color rush ranking.
NFL color rush uniforms. Let's see.
We'll check out this one. Talon.
Yeah. All right.
Here we go. You know, this is like in game.
OK, you know, and it was it could have been so easy.

(01:39:31):
Just do all teal instead of all teal or all black.
You can you just either way, don't the Jags already wear all
black sometimes I don't know what they do anymore, but this
is horrible. That's also so bad here.
I I disagree with this. Whoa, whoa, that's a terrible

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Tampa Bay cremesicles are yes, this they are like this is
horrible. This is like the what's that the
mango push pop or something? These are push pops.
Exactly what this is. It's a mango push pop and you
can't even tell what the I don'tthink the greens match pant
stripe and helmet stripe. Maybe they do and the orange is

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just messing with my mind, but it looks blue and it just it's
horrible. That might be worse.
Yeah, that might be worse than the Jags.
I don't think it's worse. It's just stings more.
It's not remotely intimidating. Like, you see your you see your
opponent, you put those out and you just think, oh, these are
pushover pansies. Gosh, that's what people should

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put on their mailboxes. Perfect reflectors at night,
like, Oh my God, Drew said. But they didn't change the
helmet. Yeah, the color rush never
changed the helmet. Gosh, it's the Nike color rush.
I don't think ever changed the helmet.
I don't I really don't like I really don't like the watch.
This isn't good either. There's not enough red.
There's not any white really, other than surrounding the note.

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Like why is this not why is this?
Oh, it's the Gray. Those stink.
Those stink. No, those are the Gray.
I'm pulling up in a different tab so we can I like it.
I'm I'm loading it so we can seeMiami's is Miami's is is is
truly offensive. I really don't mind all the all
grey for the lions. It looks weird.

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Also, the numbers look funny. I don't like it.
The numbers. I will say, can I, I will put
this out there. I do like what they got going on
on the sleeves. I just the grey doesn't work for
me. It looks like a baseball
uniform. I think as looks like I like the
grey. I think everybody likes the

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black better for the Lions, except the helmet's bad.
Helmet is bad. Yeah, that's the problem with
that one. The helmets is out horrendous.
Remember when the when Tampa hadthe Yeah, digital clocks.
Uniforms. Yeah, digital clocks.
Their new unis like everything got Brady there are so good.
Yeah, those are the digital clock.

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Arrow was was very bad. Broncos never look good ever.
But I I like this helmet. The helmet slaps.
Yes, helmet slaps is wrong with this Blogger.
Look the helmets are a disaster talking about.
I mean what do you expect? They're anti creamsicle I guess

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so I can't. Here's the thing though, like
it? So this is definitely the wrong
shade of blue. You need like the right royal
blue. It is they they did wear them,
which lens says could Green Bay pull off an all black universe?
Absolutely they could, but it just it wouldn't really feel
Green Bay because what are we they don't have any black in
their colors ever. What are we?
Yeah, what are we do? That's like Iowa State going to

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the all black. You know, it's like, why?
Why are we doing this? That's not that's not our color
scheme. They do it anyway.
What what helmet will we go with, if so to go with all
black? Green says yellow.
I don't think all black with green trim.
That's basically The Jets. Yeah, The Jets do have that.
That might be in here. Actually, it probably isn't.
It's probably the green. No, because that that's from

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their rebrand. This is exactly what we look
like, man. It's a great look.
It's fantastic. Then you have to go with the
black helmet, which I don't knowhow that's going to play because
again, what you're doing is you are eliminating yellow, which,

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yeah, I don't know. It just feels like when Iowa
State does it and like they don't have, that's not a color
they have would be black helmet with like a yellow Grambling
logo or a white logo. Well, this was not bad.
I don't mind that. That's cool.

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I think the way to do this is you have to have it's black with
gold and white and you can do little green accents, but I
think the golden white are goingto make this kind of look like a
neon uni. If you're going to do it, Jake,
I'm not trying to talk you into we should do it.
I'm just saying if you do it, this is the way to do it.

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I got you. I got you.
I could I, I would, I could be talked into it for like, hey,
we're going to do something fun for once.
True's comment goes against the spirit of color rush.
Yeah, it does kind of feel like it's anti color.
Gray's like, ah, we're just yeah, we're phoned it in.

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Dallas's is terrible. This looks like the Colts again.
I think it's they're borrowing from an old uni to do it.
It's just blue. They just do their old navies
anyway. They should have just done that
anyway. I'm not a fan of light colors
like pastels. I'm not a fan of pastels on

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football uniforms. I think you got to really be
careful how you do pastels. I cannot be a hypocrite as a fan
of going 2 tone blue when I golf, I have to be a fan of
those. Here's since it didn't load,

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here's the Panthers color rush. This one's the first like really
good one on the list. I think the the black stripe is
really, really helpful there. The numbers are a little big.
They're a little big, but it makes them look like old school.
Those are very like old school numbers.
But Cam has the one and it works.
Yeah, that's yeah, we're good with.
Yeah, yeah, this is. I like that I'm in.

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I think that doesn't care about uniforms.
He's hyped to see the leather helmet this year.
What did you think about the golden Fleck helmet from last
year? I thought that was really
awesome. Yeah, it was very in.
Chiefs is basically the Bills. I don't know why they're ranked
higher on here than the Bills. Maybe that was the old list.

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Oh, dude, The Jets old logo, theThe Jets old look and old logo
was just so bad. Like what an uninspired.
They're really my my thing is, is like, look at the they're
they're sending me mixed signals, right?
Because see how it's reflective?And then when you go to the full

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look with the person standing there, it's not reflective.
It's a different green. What's happening here?
We're losing the plot. Maybe just the way the light's
hitting it, maybe, but it it looks hor.
It looks like it's black. Everything legit insanely dark
green, which is just it's not working.
Their new rebrand helped a lot, but it's still oh man, this is

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so boring. What I love again, we talked
about Denver's the helmet though.
Well, I want the Giants to bringthis helmet back all day with
the helmet all day. And I want Denver to bring their
helmet back all day with that Giants helmet.
Give me and I want the Eagles togo back to their old helmet too.
Yeah, those three teams, Eagles,I'm in on the Kelly green.

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This picture. I wonder if he just this is this
is the picture from that other site that we didn't like.
Yes, it is. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, go up.
Hold on. Absolutely horrendous take
again. This guy thinks the helmets are
trash on the giants one. What is this guy?

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No, he's he's whack. What here's this is what the
color rush looks like. Yeah, that doesn't look good on
this go round. It doesn't look like the Niners.
This is this is following the the problem that you were
talking about with Green Bay. When they do the green, why is
there not white around the number or or the gold or the

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gold? It has to have something.
We can't do that. Really hard to read.
It, it, it blends in horribly. We can't have that.
Yeah, not feeling that. Giants once way better.
The Panthers and the Titans are way better than this.
I don't know why this is so high.
I think the helmet's the only good thing.
But it and the Blogger says the helmets are bad.

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I I don't, I don't know what we're doing here.
The helmet's the only thing goodabout this.
So the bears, well, it's it's not loading.
So like like it's doing the samething that somebody does.
The other ones haven't have done.
So I'm I'm pulling up the bears one, but I'm seeing that the
bears have two different color rushes because they redid.

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So this is the original, which Ithink is cool.
That's good. And here's the new one, which
looks like that's prison pajamas.
It simply cannot. Oh, I don't know what that is.
That's what I thought it would. Oh, no.
That's. They got the white pants,
though, which that's what they. That's what needs.

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You just see it under. Oh, down here.
Under. Yeah, under there like that.
Yeah, that's fine. That orange helmet needs to go,
though. That's that's not good.
That's not good. And look, you can see they
reversed out their logo. It's a blue Chicago Bears logo.
Yes, reversing out your logo. That's a bad look.

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Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. With the creamsicle hate, the
creamsicle hate is just not going to be tolerated.
Miami. Miami's is not a cream.
That thing again. Miami got to be in the
reflectors. The creamsicles are legit and

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the alternate logo with the Buccaneer head, though I will
say incredible. Like look at look at the one
with Trey the Nebraska kid wearing it in the number 10
right there. 2O2 to the right from that like that that
picture. Yes yes.

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The the bucks have this pirate ship alternate logo.
I think this needs to be their primary.
That'd be kind of sick. It's way better than that on a
helmet. This this concept 1 is pretty
good with the skull. So like this is their actual
Yep, alternate this with the skull way better like this is

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like it's pretty sick. I don't know Sissy French boy.
This is like Pirates of the Caribbean.
Terrifying. This is great.
Yeah, this is what the Raiders are trying to be and failing at.
Yes. And I just.
I've never liked the pirate, thepirate flag on a sword logo.

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I just it's just meh. It's just meh.
The pirate ship. That's the way to go.
Pirate ship is plus you have theship with the cannon in the
stadium, right? Like, how are we not putting it
on the. Yeah, this is, like too
detailed. Yeah, I don't.
I'm not digging the weird beard.Simple one is bad.
Yeah, not digging the weird beard.

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Simple one here. Well, it's also got a mustache.
Yeah, I don't know about that kind of orange.
That's that's a little too much.I agree.
But yeah, I'm. I'm down for the ship.
We got to put that on there. Completely changed.
Too old for this. Sid, What if each team got one
week where they completely changed their colors?
What would you choose? I can choose.

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I can choose another blue and dark brown together, blue and
dark. What about this?
We can each pick colors for the Packers and we can each pick
colors for one other team. Well, I know who I'm I think I
think the one that I would change would be the Vikings,
because purple and yellow. What do those have to do with

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Vikings? I would go black as the primary
color with like dark brown accents and like silver is the
third color. And you could do like a cool
like simulated fur coat type thing.
Not like, not like fur coat, butlike fur, you know, like like
like Vikings where they got the,the animal skins up on their

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shoulders, you know, and all themetal and everything.
And I would do something like that.
Maybe a silver or black helmet with the horns cause the horns
are sweet. The purple is not tool for the
said the bears would be beige and light tan.

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What if the bears colors were dark grey and light black?
Oh a dragon scale uni for the Vikings?
That would be sick. The Vikings lean into stuff like
that. That'd be so much cooler.
Packers mock with Notre Dame colors like the like the Navy

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and gold or like green like that's what I want to know.
Give me the chargers powder blueand yellow.
That's what I want. I'm stealing them.
How Chargers powder and yellow for powder blue and yellow for
which team for the Packers? Yeah, give me those.
I'll take that and steal them. I mean, I think that's great.
I'm not giving back. That will come up when we go

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back to when we go back to this the the Chargers are going to be
on here. I just remembered my favorites
were the Browns and the Chargers.
Those were the two really good ones.
Texans aren't bad. Texans are kind of boring.
It just look kind of looks like some of the Patriots looks they
did. Patriots did that dumb rebrand
like the Patriots did rebrand like right around the same time

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as the as the Buccaneers and Brady was leaving the team that
had a good classic look and was going to a great new look.
He was leaving the so like he was never in a bad look.
He left when the patriots got a bad look and didn't go to the
Buccaneers with their bad luck. So you know, he tied that well,
yes. So we don't have a good picture

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of the Falcons one, but I don't really care about the Texans
like it just it's a Navy navy's fine.
Nothing nothing to like. I'm not excited, I'm not
disappointed. Played it very safe.
Played it very safe. I mean, Texans, Texans are not a
very good, not a very interestingly branded team.

(01:54:41):
They they have easily the worst logo in the NFL other than maybe
the Browns. But the Browns do a good thing.
They don't. They don't put the logo on
really the brownie logo, but like the team that logo is their

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entire helmet, which is, yeah, the team that needs a new logo.
The worst though is the Chargersand I have AI have a solution
for them. The Chargers are like

(01:55:25):
technically the what, third horse team in the NFL?
You got the Broncos and the Colts and the Chargers.
Technically they're like mascot as a horse.
So you're charging horse, I think get away from the horse
crap altogether and then get ridof the just, you know, arch

(01:55:48):
lightning bolt. And instead I want them to do
this. I want them to make it a rhino.
That would be sick. I've wanted this for a long
time. There's a couple of different
Rhinos Charger logos out there, but I think this is.
The way Interesting. And you could do a better rhino

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than this. I don't think this is a very
good interesting, but make the lightning bolt be the rhinos
horn interesting. Something else I'll think about
that Drew says Google image search the wearing of the green
and gold. February 2012.

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You're scaring me wearing of therain neck gold Packers uniforms.
Here it is. Here it is.
All right, I'm just checking it out.
What did you want me to see on this?
Oh, the Notre Dame thing. OK.

(01:56:54):
Is this the Notre Dame 10? That kind of looks Notre Dame?
I don't like that one at all. That's like, that's like 50s
futuristic. I don't like it.
The step. Yeah, yeah.
I don't hate the color combo. It's OK.
There's no green. I'd I'd like.
I'd like to keep it tied into Green Bay.

(01:57:16):
This is a little better. There you go.
Looks like Colorado. That's better.
This one doesn't do anything forme because it has tan pants
stripes. The tan pants.
We do the stripes. Colorado State, Colorado State
and Akron. So they look like there we go.
I wouldn't mind a gold helmet. That's nice.

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It does bug me sometimes that 49ers fans kind of give us crap
for saying green and gold when they wear actual gold helmets.
They do. So I wouldn't mind doing gold
helmets, but like I don't reallylike the 49ers gold helmets.
Theirs are more like tan, whereas Notre Dame has true gold

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helmets. That's true.
That's good point. So if we did true gold like
Notre Dame, then I think we haveone upped San Francisco.
Yeah, that's good point. All right, we're back to the
Bills again. Bills.
That's that's a great look. Yeah, all in Colts is a good

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look. Yes.
Honestly, you could make this the permanent home unis and
definitely could be fine. Stick the two and I would
probably don't wear it out. I think I would do this and then
I would get rid of the horseshoelogo and go with their new
alternate logo, the sea with theIndiana in it.
Have you seen that? Yes, I have seen that shoot

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alternate logo. All right, this one right here.
This is I think this is a betterlogo.
Interesting the horseshoe. I like the horse with the helmet
on it. I mean, it's just, it's very
retro. It is, It is indeed.

(01:59:10):
Wait, Colts accused of ripping off new logo design from local
artist? That's a that's a tough look.
That is tough. They, they definitely ripped
that off. The only thing they added are
the nail holes for the horseshoe.
And like, frankly, that might bethe worst part of the logo.
They're just trying to merge it with their existing.

(01:59:33):
I will say here, let me just saythis.
OK. The font that the Colts use is
dreadful. Yeah, it's very absolutely
dreadful. It's very weird.
Looks like they retired that in 2019.
What's their new word mark? That's better.
The new word mark is better. It's it's even the other one's
just. It's not, it's even.

(01:59:55):
Well, this will take. That kind of reminds me.
Let's go to the Lions real quick.
The Lions word. Where is it?
So they got their the new font for the lions is great, but they
had like the cowboy font for a long time.
Where is this? This is driving me up.
I don't know. I don't even know what this
website, 0fandom.com. No, that's not what we need.
OK, Lions, old word, Mark. Here we go.

(02:00:20):
This is just the worst. Yeah, that's not good.
It looks like I live in Michigan.
You still see this logo everywhere.
It looks like the French Quarterfont.
What does that have to do? Like Detroit.
I know. Well, that's the point.
That's the point. It looks like, if anything, it
looks like maybe I'm the French Quarter.

(02:00:42):
Like circus lions. Yep.
Well, oh, maybe you know, their new font is way better and then
the Cowboys kind of have AI think I think they're fine.
It's kind of similar too. Yeah, they got the like this one

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at least makes sense because it looks like a Western cowboy fun.
It does. It's got the some of that WAVY
in it. It's not good, but it's it's
completely defensible. I don't like how the West and
the B like merge in together. No, I guess if they're trying to
do like the whole brand thing like a, you know, branding your
horse or, you know, for your ranch.

(02:01:26):
What's this? Oh, it's literally a brand,
isn't it? No, it's a wordmark pin.
So I. Don't know.
All right, we. Already looked at the Browns.
Browns. Is that why?
Why are all these things like goto the pages real quick?
So it's probably not going to look that much different from
Houston. You typing OK, Patriots?

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That's basically Houston, but they reversed the yeah, it looks
little letters. Vikings color rush I think is
like, OK. But again, I just hate the
Vikings colors. I don't think it's good colors.
It has nothing to do with the Vikings.
They're all whites. Did the Norse Vikings walk
around with a bunch of purple orsomething?

(02:02:17):
I'm just not aware, like I know purple was like a royalty color.
I know purple was a big deal in like it's Old Testament, but
what does it have to do with Vikings?
There we go. Yep.
Then and again, the yellow letters on the green on the you
mean on the purple? It's a little hard to read.

(02:02:39):
You need a white outline on it. Raiders is.
Dreadful. Gray letters and the Gray, the
Gray font. Yeah.
We can't can't do that. It's bad, Drew said.

(02:03:01):
Chess team. Look.
Shoot. Which which team?
Did you say that about two minutes ago?
Let's see. It must have been the Vikings.
It must be the Vikings. You said chess team.
Yeah. It's fair.
That's fair. We had to look at the Rams
earlier. I didn't like them.
Saints is clean. That's clean.

(02:03:22):
I'll take that. You got the white pants, white
shirt, gold letters with the black outline.
That's something for you you're really leaning into, like making
the helmet the main look, which I'm I'm I'm a fan of.
Go ahead. Did you want to share your
screen or something? So Vikings use natural dyes
derived from plants, animals, minerals, right?
They use vegetable dyes, right? Roots, bark, leaves, berries to

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dye their clothes. They did a lot of red,
blue-green, and yellow. Among the spectrum of Viking
colors, some were notably rare and treasured.
Purple, for example, was difficult to produce and thus
usually reserved for the elite. What a great reason to wear
purple every single day in the twenty 20s.

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I mean I love purple so I get down with that.
The Ravens do purple and it's atleast kind of cool.
Like the Vikings purple just isn't cool.
I don't think like cuz like the the Ravens main color is black
with purple accents. So it's like an iridescent look
like Ravens feathers. The Vikings are just like,

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what's the, what's the McDonald's guy's name?
The big gumdrop guy or McDonald's Grinch, Grinch.
Grimace, grimace. Donald's, that's your guy.
This guy. Look, this right here, this is
the Minnesota Vikings. It's the same picture.

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It is. It is a similar purple.
For sure. Why are all these pictures
broken? This is this is decent.
I don't like Cardinals going allblack kind of makes more sense

(02:05:16):
because they wear black frequently and also outlined the
red on the black. Thank you.
So it stands out San Francisco. This is kind of like a better
version of what the Falcons do sometimes, although so I liked
the Falcons knew rebrand they just did a couple years ago.

(02:05:39):
That's what does it look like inblack.
Like no like the the Cardinals color rush is way.
Better than this? There we go.
Here's the black. That's what I'm talking about.
Not that the grey pants. I'm in right here.

(02:06:02):
I guess white. I think it's so white to me.
I would imagine it's silver, butI think so.
I guess it's not the same shade as the number.
So yeah, I guess, I guess I guess silver makes sense.

(02:06:22):
Philly, like they they wear black, all black pretty
frequently and it looks good on them.
This is OK. It's not that interesting, but
it's OK. Yeah.
Or maybe this was the original and they just have kept wearing
it ever since. In which case that's actually
possible. I do.
I've never liked the Bengals allwhite because the Bengal Tigers
are not white. There's white tigers and it's

(02:06:44):
not Bengal tigers. Yeah, I don't think If you're
called the Tigers, If you were called the Tigers, then sure,
whatever. But you're called the Bengals.
So why don't you look like a Bengal Raven's color rush?
Why is this ranked #3 #4 this isjust kind of boring.

(02:07:06):
They definitely could not go allgold.
They would have pulled a Jacksonville.
That would have been rough. But yes, they could have gone
all black. I would have done all black.
They already do that, I think, though, which is why they don't.
You're right, Which is why they didn't do it.
They put the Seahawks at three. OK, look, nothing looks good on
Russell Wilson, so ignore him and look at his lineman.
Yeah, his weird shaped legs. Look at Russell Wilson's legs

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here. Those are weird shaped legs.
Could be that they stretch the the frame.
I think he's actually that wide though.
Could be his legs look like chicken drumsticks a little bit.
Look at that charge. Look at that with the outline

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logo. Oh, that's clean.
God, that's so good. They better have Browns and I'm
I'm also in I'm also in on the number below the charger bolt.
Yeah, yeah, I so in on that. Don't they do that right now?
They still do that. They have that They have some of
those. Yep.

(02:08:12):
Again, This is why I want I would steal these for Green Bay
if I you know, if I had to go away from now.
This is not powder blue. You said powder blue.
This is like an I would I would this Navy and the Navy and
yellow works really nicely as well.
The Chargers need to bring this back.
They are what Steelers? That's sweeper pants.

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We don't agree with any of this author's opinions.
The stripe on the pants is looked horrible.
Look at the stripe on the pants.At least make it the same as the
one on the side of the jersey. That's interesting.
The knot. Yeah.
The strip is the you don't like the 2 tone yellow yeah.

(02:09:01):
This is a fast stripe. Oh yeah and the the numbers like
the color. Yeah.
You know what the shoulder pad, the numbers and the leg striper,
all three different shades of yellow.
What are we doing? Yeah.
And why are we not doing the? I would.
I would bet, I would bet you money that the yellow helmet

(02:09:22):
stripe and the yellow star in the logo are two additional
shades of yellow. They are definitely two
different ones. I don't know if they're all
different that the stealer, the one in the stealer, the star
might be the same as the numbersor that's pretty close.

(02:09:45):
I don't think it's same as the numbers.
I don't that I disagree with. Let's we'll zoom in here.
That shitty yellow is not that shitty.
Oh, whoops, sorry, wrong tab. Here we go.
Like this shady yellow is not this shitty yellow.
I guess that is not. They got more.

(02:10:10):
They got this thing over here. This DMR.
Yeah, this might be the same shade as this.
That looks the same. I think maybe to me, the only
question is whether, because theshoulder stripe is different
from the numbers, are the shoulder stripe and the helmet
stripe the same based on this? I don't think so.

(02:10:34):
The pant stripe and the and the helmet stripe are definitely
different. Yes, the shoulder stripe kind of
looks a little bit like both of them.
Yeah, but then the pants stripe and the helmet stripe are
clearly different. This is not one.
No chance the gloves are the same color as the number.

(02:11:08):
All right, I disagree with that author.
He's got some terrible rankings.Browns should have been #1
Chargers should have been #2 andthere are some other really good
ones in there, like the Colts. Colts probably top five.
Colts is nice. Colts were top five.
Bills were probably top five, Panthers were 10 area top ten.

(02:11:28):
Yeah, I was gonna say top 10. They're probably at like #6 or
something. And then maybe Panthers come in
at #5 because I can't think of another team that needs to be
included. The Bears I like, I like the
Lions grey, but you didn't like the Lions Grey.
So the Bears we thought was good.
The original Bears, the Navy, most all Navy.

(02:11:50):
OK, so Bears works better with the orange than the the Navy's
work with the than the red, right that the pages and Texans
try to do you said so you said Chargers, Browns, Colts.
No Browns, Chargers, Browns, Browns, Chargers, Browns,
Chargers 2 for me. Colts spills 3.
I would go Colts, Colts, Bills and then Panthers or Bears,

(02:12:13):
something like that. Panthers or Bears and then I
would I would have the Lions, Grays really high up there.
But you hated it. And so I think we got to just
kind of put it like in the middle of the rankings since you
hated it. And I loved it.
It's got kind of even out in themiddle the whole thing.
I mean, the chiefs is fine. It's all red like the bills.

(02:12:37):
I thought that the Giants thought white was fine, but
because I love the helmet. Yeah, but the the UNI wasn't
great. It was just the helmet and all
it was was a throwback helmet. So just bring the helmet back.
Were we on? Were we in on the Saints?
The all white gold stripes? Yeah, those were fine.
Those were certainly top ten. Like that probably comes in at
like, you know, 7 or 8 or 9. I think Philly, the black and

(02:13:02):
green again, same ranges in there.
And then I would put the Packers, all whites in that same
range. Like those are all top 10, but
not top five. Arizona doing black and red
correctly. Yeah, Yeah, those were kind of
like boring pointless because there was some boring pointless.

(02:13:22):
Like Texans was boring pointless.
Patriots was boring pointless. Oh, he said the Giants with the
all white giants. I would say Chiefs were boring
pointless. Like it was not as good as the
commanders. The commanders all yellow.
Well, that's true. The original commanders was all

(02:13:44):
yellow and that was bad. The commanders all red.
That they did a couple years after was a lot better, I
thought. Were we splitting the difference
on the Titans because of that? Like pastel blue?
Is that like a split, the difference?
Well, I didn't. So you liked it and I didn't.
Is that what we're saying? So that's in the split.
That's the split with the Lions.So those two are kind of in the
same. Where do we land on Seattle?

(02:14:07):
I'm in on Seattle. Where are you at?
I'm I'm fine. We're good.
I like I put Seattle. I like making the jokes, but
like I'm in Seattle are top 10 but not top five.
OK, we'll have to tear this for next Yeah, we did say Buffalo's
in the top five. Yeah, maybe we'll tear it for

(02:14:30):
social media. Maybe we'll do that because we
we do have to to button up and get out of here.
I the the chat did want to touchon a couple of the questions.
So we had Xavier Scott versus Miles Scott, but Brian Malphey's
not even in here anymore. So we'll save, we should save
that for next week. OK, Well, unless you, unless you

(02:14:50):
have a quick answer for it. I was just gonna probably say
Xavier Scott, but I'll, I'll keep that on the thing.
I'll, I'll put it on our little mock up.
OK. I still have the I still have
three things on here that we were talking about last week for
this week, but we'll have to save them, which is totally
fine. Yeah, we were, we were going to

(02:15:12):
talk about Baron Sorrell and Dobbs trade Pittsburgh.
And then what was the other one?Those rankings like we did with,
oh right, ranking Lafleur. Yeah, Yeah, I think we should
save ranking Lafleur for after training camp.
So there's that other lull in between training camp and and

(02:15:34):
what, the preseason, right. Yeah, let's save it for that.
That's a that's a good dead weektopic tool for this.
Wants to know are there any goodIrish long snappers?
Can we save that question? That's a good one too.
Yeah, save that. Irish long snappers.
I'll look through college football this next week and I'll
let you know and I'll look through free agents out there in

(02:15:56):
the NFL. So here we will definitely come
back to that really quick. And then this up for
Hendrickson. So George Troy doesn't need a
pass rush or do they? I think they do based on what I
see on the roster. Like unless you assume like
Hassanine is going to do stuff in year 1, which again, he's

(02:16:18):
still kind of new ish to football.
Again, the production was nice, but other than like Alkadeen,
Muhammad Barnes is a linebacker,Pascal's kind of a tweener,
Marcus Davenport. And again, remember Aiden
Hutchinson coming off a major injury, like is he going to be

(02:16:39):
tip top shape? Like I think I think they would
do that. And then let's say Hendrickson
falls off is he's only going to have 13 sacks.
I'll take that. I, I think the production is
going to be there for another year.
But in two years, when you're, you know, the cap hit is like
5357 million, something like that, are you going to be

(02:16:59):
pleased that he's still on the you're you're going to be paying
for Hendrickson for several years after he's no longer on
the team? That's Mike.
Yeah. That's what the Packers are
considering. So there's there's some other
teams that are going to be willing to do that.
Yeah. Because like when you think
about like, again, just to use it as an example, Panthers would
pull the trigger. I don't know.
They just they drafted two youngguys, Skelton Skorton and Prince

(02:17:24):
Leomani Ellen. I think they're comfortable with
that. And they'll probably swing again
next year. Think they're going to try to
stay young. I think they know that they can
go get veterans along the offensive line if Iki Akwanu is
not working. Sneaky team for Sheed.
Another one right? Got a rookie QBI rookie

(02:17:45):
contract. So I I think they'll spend
there. But yeah, maybe maybe they do
spend for Hendrickson. I just don't know if they think
they're in that window yet. That's the only thing.
We also had a couple of people asking us to weigh in on the
whole, like a crew, sports team name change thing, like
Washington and like obviously like the the Guardians are roped

(02:18:07):
into that as well. I would be interested in having
that conversation 'cause I thinkit can, it can be interesting.
I think if we were to do that, we'd need the chat to promise to
behave 'cause we'd have to cut it off.
Chat can't behave. Maybe we touch on that next
year. Tool for that says maybe draft
Shamar Stewart next year. Well, yeah, but yeah, maybe,

(02:18:30):
maybe we maybe we do the the team name change thing next week
if the chat promises to behave. Yes, because listen, it's only
going to take one person to ruina good time for everybody else.
So be thinking about that for next week.
Think about it. And and in the meantime, we'll
do the scouting report for 2026 edge rusher prospect Shamar

(02:18:52):
Stewart, The name you should know.
Yeah, you should probably know him.
I think he's a Gudekun's type. I think Gude would be really.
Yeah, I think so. Bit of a broad guy, not a lot of
production, it seems. Definitely not in the NFL so
far. So we'll see, you know, maybe
some character concerns. I heard that he got into like a

(02:19:14):
heated debate with some group about, yeah, contract stuff.
Why did you know? Why did like they want to pay
him? You know, he was, he was talking
about like some felonies he wanted to commit and he was
nervous about consequences for committing those felonies.

(02:19:34):
Oh, I see, I see. He was like typical.
Yeah, just not typical SEC stuff, right.
Like, OK, it is what it is. Like, it's not Georgia.
It's from Georgia, but right. Like, that's a whole other ball
of wax you got to worry about. Like, who's going to chauffeur
around after his license gets revoked?
Like, this is different. Like, all Shamar wants to do is

(02:19:55):
just, you know, a little bit of hard time.
I don't know what it's for. You know, who among us we don't
know. But anyway, it's got unfinished
business, it seems. But yeah, so.
You know, we'll get to a lot next week.
We'll have a lot of camp stuff next week that we'll be able to
talk about what's going on, you know, so, you know, get excited

(02:20:20):
for all that. That's going to be this would be
a good time. In the meantime, camp clips,
Jake, all day. I was, I was really hoping that
somehow we'd have some training camp news for tonight.
In fact, that we didn't. I was sad.
It's tough, but we'll have we'llwe'll be chock full next week.

(02:20:42):
And until then, they probably will Drew the Brewers probably
will be 20. I think.
I think it depends. And if they can get the Dodgers
back on the schedule, that wouldhelp.
Yeah, that's true. I I don't know.
I don't know if you can don't want to play like that happen or
I'm down to play the Rockies. They stink, stink 22 and 74.

(02:21:04):
I think they were nine and full for this at one point.
Tool for this is wants to talk about the Savannah bananas.
What about the party? What about the party animals?
I hate party animals. Party animals?
Yeah, that's the that's the mainrival of the bananas.
It's the party animals. Well, go animals then.

(02:21:27):
And they got the they got the all pink unis.
My gosh. We'll have to rank.
We'll have to rank the Savannah Bananas League and all their
rivals. We're not gonna do that.
I will not participate. I will participate in ranking
minor League Baseball logos, cause minor league does logos

(02:21:48):
the right way. That's what I'm talking.
There's a team in Michigan. I, I don't know if they used to
have a different name or if I just like misheard it one time.
So their their actual name is the the Pit Spitters and I think
they should just be the cherry pitters.
So Traverse City, MI is known for cherries.
They do like the cherry festivalover the year.

(02:22:09):
They got all these cherry orchards and then do cherry
wines and everything. It's it's great.
But their minor league team is currently named the pit
spitters. I think they should be called
the the cherry pitters. But their logo is great.
It's a cherry that is spitting out a baseball.
That's pretty cool. That's pretty cool, actually.

(02:22:33):
I just started taking logo for that logo.
You'll have to tune in next week.
I mean, I already have it queuedup.
OK. Don't you want to see it?
Don't you want to see it, Jake? Sure, but that mean I can see it
post show. That's true.
But I I love the people. They may redo it.

(02:22:54):
Well, I love the people. All right.
I guess if you love them. Yeah.
That's sick. So I think the logo is great.
The name I think is stupid. The name should be just the
cherry petters. And then you have them spitting
out the baseball. That's sick.
All right. But at some point in the future,

(02:23:14):
in the very not too distant future, we'll be ranking minor
League Baseball logos. And then I mean, honestly,
offseason shenanigans are going to have to come to a close
because we're going to have realfootball talk about and I'm kind
of sad. Also, Jake, I did put together
my top ten movie list. You did from from the 21st
century. I have it, you have it

(02:23:35):
excellent. The only problem is there's 12
movies on it. So that's why I haven't shown it
to you yet because I got it. I'm still trying to decide two
teams, 2 movies to act. It's got big two cuts.
It's like I can't my these are my top 1210 favorite movies.
Your your top 3 #10 you know, and we have a three-way tie for

(02:24:01):
first place. Hey, that's, that's fine.
Drew says put 2IN honorable mention.
I would, I had, I mean in my honorable mention already.
Well, so that's that's the hard thing.
Well, I've never heard of space chimps and I you're scaring me
to all of this is spate. Is that like Spaceballs?

(02:24:24):
You know, we're finally getting Spaceballs 2.
It's the same year we're getting2008 film 2 1008 Daryl Asian
says not a huge, huge baseball fan.
So you're you would you would bedown for minor League Baseball
logo tears. Sounds like it Yeah.
Animated movie about space chimps.
Here we are. OK.

(02:24:47):
I mean, that just sounds like Space Jam, I guess.
Andy Samberg has it. Got this picture that's like
live action, but you got a bunchof cartoon.
It is not. Apes.
Yeah, OK, But it's about baseball instead of basketball.
Jeff Daniels, Patrick Warburton.Of course, Keenan Thompson,
Patrick Warburton has to be in it because he's in everything,

(02:25:08):
because Hollywood is incapable of casting anybody else for an
animated movie. But he's he's got goose ghost
poison, the poison specifically designed for Cusco.
All right, yeah, I might watch this.
All right, so next week, Jake isgoing to review Space Chimps for

(02:25:28):
us. Yeah.
Yeah. I almost went and saw Superman
last night to open. Almost.
I ended up I ended up seeing a different movie instead because
I had made a promise to my daughter to take her to see Elio
and it's not going to be in my theater for much longer.
So we had to go see that while. It's still in theater.

(02:25:51):
We got Fantastic Four on Friday as well.
Yeah, I got to see Superman before I see Fantastic Four and
I may wait to see Fantastic Fourwhen it comes out on streaming
because I'm running low on my cinema gift cards and and the
derailed Venmo has been dry. You guys have not been donoing,

(02:26:14):
which is fine. Well, you know what we keep
doing content, but that means I got to wait for movies to come
out on streaming. I can't go, you know, see them.
So send me some gift cards, dropsome some donos and I'll go see
some more movies and review themfor you like I did Paddington
too. So, you know, do you want an Leo
review? I don't think so.
I didn't see a single person asking for an Leo review.

(02:26:36):
That's why I didn't review it. So but Jake is going to do Space
Chimps. There we go.
So True says there's a lot of dog and Superman, so your
daughter will love that. Yeah, but it's PG13 and she's
two years old. I feel like that's enough of a
gap. I was reading the reviews and
we'll get there, but we're not, we're not, you know, like we're

(02:26:59):
not trying to race together, trying to enjoy the journey.
We're not going to skip ahead. You know, Major League movie was
fun. Charlie Sheen haven't seen that.
The actually I've only seen one.I've only seen one like serious
baseball movie and that was field of moneyball.

(02:27:20):
Oh, moneyball. OK, I saw what was the I think
Moneyball was on my place. Angels in the outfield.
I saw that when I was a kid. That's one, yes.
And what The Sandlot? Oh, yeah, yeah, yes, that's
true. So.
And there was a couple others too that I saw when I was a kid.

(02:27:43):
But so anyways, listen, listen. OK, Jake, we have to ignore the
chat here because we're at 2:27.We are.
So it's time for us to say yes. Classic.
I have 12. We got we got some good ones.
All right, Yeah. I I appreciate you guys.

(02:28:04):
This has been fun. Thanks for thanks for sticking
with us through the offseason. I mean, honestly, yeah, this is
maybe our better content is during the offseason because we
can do all the tears and and everything in that.
You know, nobody else gives you content like that.
Nobody else is ranking and rating holler rush, holler rush
doesn't exist. You gotta love the chat tonight.

(02:28:26):
They were just like, you know what, we're not going to derail.
You're going to do it yourself. We did do because you brought up
the video of the Packers helmet and then we went down a a quite
that is what derailed it. I'm derailer of the week.
You are 100% and the chat just following us, talking about
Hendrickson following us down the uniform rabbit hole,

(02:28:49):
following everybody's queuing, everybody's putting up the, you
know, baseball movies in the comments because we bet like
we're crushing it. We're crushing it right now.
So you know what else can we say?
I'm playing you out. I'm playing you out.
Your Oscar is musicking me in the words late grade Mr. Ed

(02:29:14):
policy. Thank you all for listening.
Go pack you. See you next week.

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