Derate The Hate

Derate The Hate

Bettering the world one attitude at a time. We did not create the hate, but together, we can ๐˜ฟ๐™š๐™ง๐™–๐™ฉ๐™š ๐™๐™๐™š ๐™ƒ๐™–๐™ฉ๐™š! In a world filled with divisiveness, and dominated by F.O.G. (Fear, Outrage & Grievance), it's time we find a better way to engage. That all starts with each of us as individuals. We cannot control all that we encounter within our day to day lives, or the environment in which we live, but we certainly have the ability and responsibility to control how we react to it. For me, it starts with gratitude and personal accountability. Take a listen and see if there is something here to help you in taking your part in turning down the hate. Welcome to the ๐˜ฟ๐™š๐™ง๐™–๐™ฉ๐™š ๐™๐™๐™š ๐™ƒ๐™–๐™ฉ๐™š ๐™‹๐™ค๐™™๐™˜๐™–๐™จ๐™ฉ...

Episodes

January 7, 2026 โ€ข 35 mins

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In Episode 297 of Derate The Hate, Wilk Wilkinson sits down with Tom Fishmanโ€”media executive, bridge-builder, and advisor to the ProHuman Foundationโ€”for a wide-ranging conversation on how depolarization can scale.

From the failures of outrage-driven media to the need for a powerful โ€œair gameโ€ in the bridging movement, this episode explores how storytelling, shared identity, and citizen-led solutio...

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In Episode 296 of Derate The Hate, Wilk Wilkinson is joined by Malka Kopell and Palma Joy Strand, co-founders of Civity, for a deeply human conversation about rebuilding trust, strengthening communities, and rediscovering our civic muscle.

At a time when institutional trust is declining and polarization feels overwhelming, Malka and Palma share why relationships โ€” not arguments โ€” are the true foun...

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Why does outrage feel powerful โ€” yet leave conversations broken in its wake?

In Episode 295 of Derate The Hate, Wilk Wilkinson is joined by world-class speaking coach and author Robert Begley to explore why empathy-rooted rhetoric is far more effective than outrage-driven communication.

Together, they unpack how conversations escalate, why persuasion works better than force, and how curiosity and l...

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In Episode 294 of Derate The Hate, Wilk Wilkinson is joined by author and speaker,ย  Julie Lavender Le Doux for a powerful conversation about performance anxiety, childhood experiences, fear, shame, and personal growth.

Julie shares how early experiences shaped her fear of being seen, how anxiety spread into multiple areas of her life, and how confronting fear became the path toward healing and cou...

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Episode 293 with guest Nathan Stock

In this episode, Wilk sits down with international conflict-resolution specialist Nathan Stock, a man with more than 20 years of experience working to reduce violence and strengthen democracy around the world. Nathan shares how his journey began as an English teacher in Gaza during the Al-Aqsa Intifada โ€” an experience that taught him how quickly societies can sh...

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Episode 292 โ€” Correcting Misperceptions with James Coan of More Like US


ย Misunderstanding each other is fueling a level of toxic polarization thatโ€™s tearing at our civic and social fabric. In this episode, Wilk is joined by James Coan, Co-Founder and Executive Director of More Like US, an organization that helps Americans see each other more accuratelyโ€”especially on college campuses.
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Episode 291 โ€“ Featuring Joni Bryan of The 917 Society

In this episode, Wilk sits down with Joni Bryan, Founder & Executive Director of The 917 Society, an organization dedicated to inspiring the next generation with a personal connection to the U.S. Constitution.

Joni shares how a simple question โ€” โ€œHave you ever read the Constitution?โ€ โ€” evolved into a nationwide effort to provide every 8th-gr...

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Bridge Grades & the Fight Against Toxic Polarization

This week, Wilk is joined by Brad Porteus, founder of BridgeGrades.org, to discuss the pervasive issue of toxic political polarization and identity politics in America.

Brad shares his experience of returning to the U.S. after 14 years abroad, seeing a "stark" difference and feeling "mad" about the decay of the civic fabri...

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Episode 289 | Guest: Jim Robb, Vice President of Alliances at Numbers USA

Immigration is one of Americaโ€™s most polarizing debatesโ€”but what happens when lifelong political opponents choose conversation over combat?


ย Wilk Wilkinson sits down with Jim Robb of Numbers USA to discuss his organizationโ€™s collaboration with Braver Angels on the Citizens Commission on Immigration.

Together they explore:...

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Lura Forcum: The Pleasure of Outrage vs. The Cost of Division

Outrage is addictiveโ€”but understanding it may be our way out.ย 

Wilk Wilkinson welcomes Lura Forcum, president of The Independent Center and co-host of We Made This Political, for a fascinating conversation about political schadenfreudeโ€”the pleasure we feel when our opponents suffer. Drawing from her background in consumer and social psyc...

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๐™๐™ง๐™ค๐™ข ๐™‡๐™– ๐™‘๐™ž๐™ค๐™ก๐™š๐™ฃ๐™˜๐™ž๐™– ๐™ฉ๐™ค ๐˜ฟ๐™š๐™ฅ๐™ค๐™ก๐™–๐™ง๐™’๐™ž๐™จ๐™š: ๐™‡๐™š๐™จ๐™จ๐™ค๐™ฃ๐™จ ๐™ž๐™ฃ ๐™ƒ๐™ช๐™ข๐™–๐™ฃ๐™ž๐™ฉ๐™ฎ

Wilk Wilkinson is joined by Phelosha Collaros, Vice President at St. Johnโ€™s College and founder of DepolarWise.com.

Her familyโ€™s story in Colombiaโ€™s La Violencia reveals what happens when political conflict becomes personalโ€”and how humanity can still prevail. Together they explore the roots of polariz...

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Episode 286 โ€“ Michael Sodini | Walk The Talk America

In this episode, Wilk Wilkinson sits down with Michael Sodini, founder of Walk The Talk America (WTTA) โ€” an organization dedicated to bridging the gap between mental health and responsible gun ownership.

They discuss the stigma that keeps people from seeking help, the impact of suicide prevention programs like Cause of Pause, and how the firearms...

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Faith 250 โ€“ A Clergy-Led Celebration of our Shared Civic Story

What if the 250th anniversary of Americaโ€™s founding became more than fireworks โ€” what if it became a spiritual renewal of our shared civic story?

In this episode, Wilk sits down with Rabbi Michael Holzman and Pastor Becca Messman to explore Faith 250, a multi-faith initiative uniting clergy and congregations across the nation. Through s...

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"In Defense of Christian Patriotism " โ€“ DTH Episode 284 with Daniel Darling

What does it mean to love both God and country without falling into the trap of Christian nationalism? In this episode, Wilk is joined by author Daniel Darling to talk about his new book In Defense of Christian Patriotism. Together they explore:

  • The vital difference between Christian patriotism and Christian n...
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Affirming Identity, Building Community, and Cultivating Leadership

In this episode of Derate The Hate, Wilk Wilkinson sits down with Dr. Beverly Daniel Tatumโ€”renowned psychologist, author, and president emerita of Spelman Collegeโ€”to discuss the challenges and opportunities facing higher education in todayโ€™s polarized climate.

Dr. Tatum shares insights from her groundbreaking work on race and identi...

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Speaking Out With Courage When It Matters Most

In this episode of Derate The Hate, Wilk Wilkinson sits down with Jennifer Sey โ€” author, filmmaker, business executive, athlete, and outspoken advocate for children and women.

Jenโ€™s story spans from the highs of being a national champion gymnast to the lows of enduring โ€” and later exposing โ€” an abusive system in her sport. She courageously told the wor...

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Leadership Beyond the Checklist: How โ€œBeingโ€ Leaders Create Value and Navigate Complexity

What does it really mean to become betterโ€”not just at what we do, but in who we are?

In this episode, Iโ€™m joined by Dr. Ryan Gottfredson, a best-selling author and leadership professor whose work has transformed the way we think about growth. Ryan explains why most leadership training focuses too much on โ€œdoin...

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Coaching Beyond the Game: Football as a Platform for Healing, Accountability & Social Progressย 

This week, we kicked off the 2025 NFL season โ€” and what better time to explore how youth football can be so much more than just a game? Host Wilk Wilkinson sits down with Coaches Jim Place and Al Powell, the co-founders of the Miami Valley Football Coaches Associationโ€™s Social Justice seven-on-seven...

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Common Ground from the Ground Up: Humility, Healing & Rethinking Our Politicsย 

In this episode of Derate The Hate, Wilk sits down with Nathan Smolenskyโ€”author of Common Ground from the Ground Up. Nathan brings a unique perspective shaped by his upbringing in a family of Soviet immigrants and his experience working with Republicans, Democrats, and independents alike.

Together, they explore how h...

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From Rooftop to Roadwork: Faith, Dignity and the Walk Across America ย 

Pastor Corey Brooks โ€” known to many as the Rooftop Pastor โ€” is back on Derate The Hate with a story thatโ€™s nothing short of incredible. What began years ago with a bold stand on a rooftop has grown into Project Hoodโ€™s 90,000-square-foot community center, now halfway complete on Chicagoโ€™s South Side.

This isnโ€™t just a building. I...

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