December 10, 2024 • 36 mins
#Apologies for the occasional muffled quality of my voice here and there in this ep. I didn't have a cold but I was recording on an antique Mac. MrSteJ however, sounds great!
Join us in a nostalgic journey as we sit down with MrSteJ, the charismatic Twitch streamer who has captivated retro gaming enthusiasts worldwide. From accidental beginnings to becoming a beloved figure in the streaming community, he shares his remarkable story of building a space where fans of the 80s and 90s can relive their childhood passions. Embracing the spontaneity that streaming often requires, he reveals the meticulous preparation behind each session and the heartwarming connections forged with his audience.
Discover how the pandemic sparked a transformative shift in MrSteJ's career, as he transitioned from a YouTube musician to a Twitch sensation. His journey underscores the power of adaptability and the enduring appeal of nostalgia-driven content.
We also celebrate the games that have left an indelible mark. From the pixelated adventures of "Centipede" on the Atari 2600 to the timeless joy of "Super Mario World," these classics evoke fond memories and familial bonds.
Tune in for a heartfelt conversation filled with laughter, cherished memories, and a deep appreciation for the games that shaped our youth.
Let us know where we're going wrong....or, like, right...maybe.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome, dear listener, to Desert Island Gamer
.
A quick-fire interview podcastdigging into those video games
that shaped us into thewholesome, kind-hearted people
we are today.
The entirely original premiseone desert island, one guest,
three games they adore, one gamethey abhor and a carefully
selected gaming character withwhich to spend an eternity of
(00:23):
moonlit walks along the beach.
It could be weird, it could beunhinged and it could have
crappy sound quality, but atleast it will be short To the
island.
Welcome, dear listener, toDesert Island Gamer, the podcast
(00:47):
that is undeniably shabby chic,if chic also meant shabby.
And today we have a genuinetreat in store.
His friends call him Stephen, Icall him Mr Steejay, and bow
politely when entering any roomthat he's in Evening mate.
I was going to say good morningthen, but what do you think of
the evening?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
I was expecting you to say and some people call him
Stedge or Mrs Tedge or somethinglike that For a long time you
were Mr Stedge to me.
I think that was like that fora lot of people.
To be honest, I think I nevertold anyone anything different.
I was like oh yeah, okay, we'llgo with that, but a lot of
people were going around callingme Mr Stedge.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
For me, mate.
You are Twitch streaming gold.
You are retro goodness games,films, tv.
You're the man who gets the DogTanya theme forever, like
genuinely hours after the stream.
I'm humming that goddamn tune.
Do Do you know what?
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Someone said to me and I kind of agree with this
it's the only song that youcould use.
That is okay to use.
If it was any other theme tune,it would just annoy you, do?
You know what I mean?
Even if it was He-Man orThundercats at some point, it
would just do your head in.
But the Dogtine you want?
Speaker 1 (01:56):
I don't know what it is it gets in your head and it
yeah, that's what it is.
One of the main reasons I wantto talk to you as well is just
you've created what I believe tobe the most like big-hearted,
wholesome, entertaining, funny,occasional gaming channel on the
whole of twitch.
(02:16):
You must be proud of whatyou've done.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
I love twitch, I, um, I it's hard to talk about in
that sense, because I feel likeit's still kind of a thing.
I'm trying to, you know, fathomwhat it, what's going on.
It feels like a bit of alifesaver for me because I just
kind of accidentally fell intoit and um, so I'm just trying to
still work out what's going on.
But yeah, I'm just uh, when Istarted Twitch I was just kind
(02:40):
of not even trying to kind ofwork out what to do, but kind of
do do what I want to do.
People will hopefully turn up.
And then I just wanted to kindof bump into people who had
like-minded you know things thatwe're into like you know, like
cartoons and 80s, anything 80sor 80s, 90s, it's just got a
massive heart and it's based onyou, mate, because the one thing
that always strikes me is younever feel like you're putting
(03:01):
anything on, you never feel likeanything's forced.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
You genuinely have this massive enthusiasm.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
I think it's an age I say this a lot, but I think
it's that age thing when you'rea kid You're into stuff but you
start becoming a bit rebelliousagainst it and you want to be an
adult.
And then when you start beingan adult and you start, like,
you know, chasing girls and allthat stuff, you kind of thinking
(03:29):
about, oh god, those years wereactually the best years of your
life and you start.
You start getting like excitedabout kind of reminiscing, and
then you get to this point whereyou can start, you know,
getting hold of all the toys andthe girl watching, all the
cartoons and stuff that you usedto have the things you used to
maybe shun and go.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Oh no, I'm just into like football.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Now you can embrace it yeah, even at school, like
when you see, you know, back inthe day we're kind of seen for
nerds and geeks, we like thatnow but celebrated, you know,
you go into primark and there'st-shirts with nerd or geek on or
like or turtles or somethinglike that.
That wouldn't have been thecase years ago because that
would have been like, oh youknow, we're gonna grow up from
that.
But now, like, being an adultkind of man, child or whatever,
(04:03):
is kind of celebrated and so itshould be, because, yeah, that's
exactly what we are.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Yeah, yeah, I love it , wouldn't have any other way.
And you're also making somewaves on youtube as well, which
is brilliant.
I absolutely love your shortskits um, it's not that I can't
stand to like watch it for morethan 60 seconds.
The son and dad absolutely myfavorite thing to watch.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Oh yeah, that's another one I accidentally kind
of fell into because it was justlike I just want to make,
because I started off youtube,so it's kind of I was easy to
start off there and then go totwitch and then when I wanted to
kind of do more things on, Ijust got the itch to want to
make more videos and have somefun and stuff.
So I thought I'll try stuff out.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
I've been following you now on Twitter.
I'm like about two years deepyeah.
God, you're there near thestart, really, yeah fairly, and
just to see the way you've kindof evolved and the different
things you're bringing in, thedifferent aspects, it's just
brilliant to see.
Long may it continue.
But obviously, obviously todaywe're here for some very very
(05:05):
very important business.
As an island gamer, you'll begetting to pick three games that
mattered, one that you notnecessarily hated, but it's let
you down, and an all-importantgaming character.
But before we dig into that, Ijust wanted to.
If we just kind of push backthrough the mist of time for a
moment, so like your earliestchildhood memories, was there a
moment, or maybe multiplemoments, that, like the video
(05:26):
game, got its claws into you?
Speaker 2 (05:28):
so the earliest gaming memory I I can have is,
uh, I think of, is, um, I think,my dad bringing back a pong
kind of clone home from a carboot.
It was like it wasn't theactual, you know, everyone had
their own version of pong, yeah,or whatever, and it was just.
It was two little paddlesplugged into the TV and I
remember being a bit obsessedwith that as a kid, just
watching like two lines, youknow on either side of the
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screen that we could.
We did so many hours doing that,oh that isn't that nuts Like
when we think about that and howexcited we were.
And then you think abouttrailer the other day and go
look how far we've come.
I mean, isn't that absolutelyincredible.
Like that was our grand theftauto back in the day.
You know tennis with two, twolines on each side.
(06:10):
You know what?
Speaker 1 (06:10):
when a machine like that first got brought into the
house and I remember we ushaving the pong as well, the
pong machine that was biggerthan the grand theft auto six
trailer because I was like, yeah, mind-blowing, and it's like
it's back then when you knowlike I've got a couple brothers
and a sister, it's back then.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
When you know like I've got a couple of brothers
and a sister, and it's back thenwhen that was the only gaming
thing, like not everyone in thehouse had their own gaming
system or platform or whatever.
So we all were like, jumping onit, I'm like, oh, I've got to
be first, I'm going to try, andyou know, battle against you.
So it wasn't like we all hadour own things, because I don't
think back then most people justhad like one thing in the house
and that was it for me, andmost had one tv as well, so
(06:45):
you'd all kind of get on thesame tv set and argue about it.
Yeah, that's it.
So that was like the first kindof memory.
But the first kind of console Iever had which was like mine
was the Atari 2600, which wasjust after that.
That's the one I have likemassive memories from, because I
don't know it was mine.
I was able to kind of like sitoff with it, I was able to have
my own cartridges and all thatstuff.
(07:06):
That was like the thing for me.
So I've got a massive love forthat oh, and what a machine what
a machine.
Oh god, yeah, because I didn'tknow about arcades and things
like that back then because Iwas a kid.
So I just thought like dig, dugand centipede and all those
games, I didn't know about themas arcades, I knew them as atari
2600 games and that's it.
I didn't have any friends withit or anything like that, and
(07:27):
there was like no magazines,obviously no internet or
anything.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
That's why I just thought these games just existed
on this system right in frontof me, and that's it I was
wondering because obviouslythere's a little bit of age
difference between me and youand I know that when we were
kids in school we'd go and dropour dinner money into like pole
position on kung fu master downin town.
Is that the same sort ofexperience?
Speaker 2 (07:46):
you had no.
So I'm I'm 42 now, so my firstlike console.
So I was like I got it.
It was, it wasn't even theoriginal woody atari, it was
like the junior ones, which waslike mid 80s I think.
Uh, yeah, so I would have beenabout five or something like six
when I got that, so I wasn'told enough to go to the arcades.
But, um, I didn't really knowabout them until a little bit
(08:08):
later, and that was only when Iwent to like a Butland holiday
camp in in in like Betheli, andthen they had like a little
arcade there and I remembergoing in there for the first
time and being like, oh my god,like what the hell there's?
There's, like god, big giantgames all around me and being
obsessed and didn't even haveany money to play on them.
I was like floating around,like I always use this analogy
(08:29):
but it goes well with thefloating around like a wolf in a
cartoon going after a pie on awindow shelf to every machine,
because that's what it was.
It was just like absolutelymagical.
But I never had the money forarcades so I literally just
ended up watching other peopleplay.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
I used to starve every lunchtime because I'd run
in for like 10 seconds of KungFu Master.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Oh my God.
But we did have a video shoparound the corner from ours
which had WrestleFesting.
I remember being obsessed withthat, just watching people play
that and the size of thewrestlers on the screen and
you're watching.
Now they're not as big, butwhen you're a kid looking up
that looked the most incrediblething and for a wrestling fan of
that age as well, it was justall your favourites were on the
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screen.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
I've got to admit I'm kind of always chasing the new
thing, but you've stayed in theretro place playing the old
games still.
And what is it about the retrogames that's kept you there?
Speaker 2 (09:24):
It's weird because I think about when I stopped kind
of getting the new stuff and Ithink it's around after the
Super Nintendo Because I thinkmy brother and I started getting
the N64 and GameCube so I justplayed it through them.
So I didn't own those systems,I just played it through my
brothers.
So I felt like that was thelast bit of ownership.
So I kind of covered that eraLike the era more than anything.
I mean they did NES and theSNES and the Master System, mega
Drive.
That kind of 8 and 16-bit erafor me is like that's my era.
(09:45):
I felt like that was when I hadthose systems.
So anything else I kind ofalways dipped in and out and I
got into PlayStation quite a bitlater on, but I was always like
I played those games throughother people.
So I never felt like I had anyownership over them.
Well, until I started workingfor Sony years later.
So I felt like I had to own aPlayStation and all that then.
So that's when I startedpicking up gaming again.
(10:08):
But my heart has always beenthat Again, we're talking about
all the things I loved about the80s and 90s, about the cartoons
and everything, but it alsogoes into the times and those
memories of playing video games.
I have good memories of laterstuff, but it's more about when
I was a kid, really, or ateenager stuff, but it's more
about when I was a kid, really,or a teenager, ah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Yeah, that makes total sense and respect to you,
because the games was so muchharder and so painfully brutal
and unforgiving.
There's a massive audience forit as well, obviously.
Now, talking of audiences,obviously your twitch channel is
growing.
We need to dive in.
It's now basically the day job,I'm convinced you well on your
way to becoming somewhat ofother celebrity, and it's just
me getting in early beforeyou've got an agent, oh, I
(10:47):
imagine.
But going right back to yourchannel's inception, I'm curious
did you go in with a plan orwere you going in with just
curiosity about the wholestreaming platform and the
streaming?
Speaker 2 (10:59):
world.
So it's weird because I startedoff, as I said earlier, I
started off on YouTube as amusician and every Tuesday I
would.
So it's weird because I startedoff, as I said earlier, I
started off on YouTube as amusician and every Tuesday I
would go live on YouTube andtalk to other musicians about
their plan as independentmusicians.
Because a lot of them were kindof worried what do we do with
our music?
Blah, blah, blah.
And I was like, well, I was anindependent musician, this is
(11:19):
what I'm doing.
I was going to go out there andtalk about what I'm doing and
that latched onto a few people.
So I had no plan of like, oh,I'm going to be a retro streamer
on Twitch at all.
That never came.
I just thought, well, I'm goingto do this on YouTube.
So during the pandemic, I waslooking at ways musicians could
earn money and I saw Twitch.
I saw musicians were going overto Twitch because you obviously
(11:43):
couldn't gig.
I don't know if I'd do all thethings that us musicians could
do.
So I thought, well, people aregoing over to Twitch, it seems
like, and doing the coverstreams or playing gigs and all
that.
So I thought, well, I'll goover and have a go, and then I
can talk to musicians and sayI'll try this out and see what
it's like.
And I went over there and maybetwo people of the people who
were following me went over, um,and then next stream, because I
(12:03):
was just doing ambient guitarstreams, because that's the kind
of stuff I used to do.
Then the next stream, nobodyturned up.
And I was like, oh, all, right,okay, and again, and the next
stream, and maybe one personturned up and no one was in.
So I thought, well, you knowwhat, I might just kind of split
this up a little bit, becausethere was a gamer as well.
There's so many systems.
I was like, well, I don't justkind of on the odd day play a
(12:23):
game.
And that like kind of took offa little bit quicker and I
realized, oh, it's, it's a lotharder to be a music.
I think it's also one of thethings I didn't like when I was
doing music.
I was doing the same kind ofmusic every day and I wasn't
treating it with like respect.
In a way.
I always say this.
I wasn't treating with respectlike, uh, you know, if your
favorite band did a gig everyday, you probably wouldn't go
(12:44):
and see them, and that's whattheir mentality I started
thinking about.
So I started thinking, well, ifI just start playing a game
every now and again to split itup and so it's not just doing
music every day, I'll see howthat goes and that got a bit
more traction and also I justend up enjoying that way more
than I was just doing playingmusic.
Yeah, so we're just.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
I just stuck to that and just went I'm gonna play a
game now and again and kind ofdidn't look back I love just to
see how far it's coming, just,and it's not even in a long
space of time in this likelittle window really.
Suddenly this whole thing isexploding, well on the way to
exploding, and it's constantlygathering pace and it's just,
yeah, I love to see it.
It must be kind of night andday.
Now then to where you were whenyou started and is there kind
(13:25):
of a typical Mr Steejay week now?
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Well, do you know what it's like?
Getting up every morning at 9am is a good routine for me.
It gets me.
I really find it hard to havelike with attention, I have
attention issues, so thatgetting up at 9am every well, I
had to get up earlier than thatobviously for the stream, but
getting up and knowing of astream and hit the go live
button before then, that givesme that kind of routine.
(13:50):
So that's kind of been good forthe last three years to do that
and in terms of like how itcompares to when I first started
it's, it's weirdly like thesame in a way, because it I
think they are.
The only thing that's changedis generations of different like
people and the phases and stuffthat have happened where I was
playing certain games one timeand now kind of gone right into
retro.
So that happens and, um, sinceI kind of turned the viewer
(14:13):
number off like years ago, it'skind of like I never know how
many people are in the stream sothey could be like you know,
okay, I feel like my thing.
I always say to everyone anyone, just turn it off, because it
can affect your mood.
If it's high or low, it'llaffect your mood in some way,
you know.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
From outside looking in, it looks like there's a
massive amount of planning andpreparation going into your
streams.
Is that out of planning andpreparation going?
Speaker 2 (14:39):
into your streams?
Is that the case, or are youabsolutely winging it every day?
I, you know what I'd love to beall like.
I, I'd love to be all humbleand go.
Oh, you know what, you know,it's at his turn up or whatever
and and and it just happens.
But no, it's.
I kind of wish it was like that.
I really do, but it does takework.
Yeah, it's like the, but I waslike something.
I'm saying the stream.
Today I do this thing where Ijust show screenshots and people
have to, um, you know, get tothe movie and it's really fun.
(14:59):
I love doing it.
Even a little bit of that umtakes up, you know, half an hour
every day, um, just looking forscreenshots or whatever, and
but those half an hour's add upfor every little task you've got
.
And now I was saying today it'sgreat, though, because you
never want to be in a positionwhere you haven't got something
to do or an idea you want to tryand kind of fulfill, because
you always want to be trying tochase something.
So I'm kind of glad I'm in thatsituation where I'm not being
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complacent about it.
I'm just kind of tearing up andgoing, pressing record and go,
because I think that would bethe wrong way to do it in my
books.
Anyway, I think you you'vealways should be kind of
evolving, yeah and how oftendoes all that planning and
preparation just get completelyderailed when chat goes off on
some wild and then for the nexthour talking about some mad
random, but I think that's whatI that's what I like, so I don't
(15:44):
mind, I just like I always tryand have, like I have a notebook
right in front of me now for,like the you know the things
we're talking about now.
You know for the um, the, theelements later.
But I always use that as wellbefore a stream to say, oh,
there's any topics I want totalk about or whatever, because
of my memory's crap.
So if there's anything I can'tlike, you know that's, we
haven't got anything to talkabout.
I've got something that I cankind of mention and that's the
(16:04):
way of doing it.
Yeah, but the derailing thing Ikind of.
That's what I'm there for.
I love all that.
That's there.
I want.
I don't want the stream to beto it every day, so we go you're
definitely achieving that everyday.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
In terms of now, like , like, what are the biggest
challenges you think you'refacing at this point in time?
Speaker 2 (16:23):
like I'm always trying to think about what I can
do with it, but it's one ofthose things, like I'd love to
get to twitch partner, so, um,that's a thing I'd like to do
like next year.
So that's a big goal for me.
And I mean, yeah, I get acertain number of um people
watching and all that and theiraverage views over like a
certain amount of streams andall that.
And that's tough for me becauseI don't like looking at stats.
(16:43):
But I've got to force myself tostart looking at stats, to go,
okay, did I do it this time andwhat can I achieve?
And it's one of those thingswhere I can.
I don't really know what to dowith that info because I don't
really look at those numbers.
So for me, it's just my.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
My advice to myself is just just try and make fun
streams, you know, and thenbuild on that and come up with
more fun ideas is it difficultto keep the fun side of it for
yourself, because obviously I'veheard people like you start
doing something you love, yousometimes feel like you've got
to punch the clock before youstart and do you ever have that
kind of up and down with it.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
I think every streamer has up and down and
that's where that you know youprepare the, the tame bear now,
which is probably in every bitof in every industry, isn't it?
You know every job, um, and Ithink it's it hits a lot of
streamers more because we don'thave, like a, a, a dead-on
schedule, or we have a schedulethat can kind of go way more
than um, like people with anine-on schedule, or we have a
schedule that can go way morethan people with a 9-5 can do.
(17:39):
You can do 12-hour streams,just a drop of a hat.
I think if most streamers dothat, they're going to maybe hit
some burnout.
I've definitely hit burnout nowand again.
Where I go, ok, I'm going tohave to take a couple of days
off.
I've learned a little bit moreabout that lately.
Where I go, ok, I need to takethe foot of the gas a little bit
, but it's all.
But it all comes from placebecause I love.
I love it and thrive on it.
I love the kind of engagementand the chat with people and it
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makes me feel incredibly warminside when people can, you know
, relate and we all chat aboutthe things we love and I think
you've become an important partof a lot of people's day.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
You'll be doing a lot of good for their mental health
and things like this andstaying on top of things, just
tuning in and having thatfamiliarity and that, and the
fact that you can have a backand forth as well, like you can
have that conversation in chatwith the people viewing it's
just like I think you do,probably more good than you've
been realized to be fair, that'sreally kind.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Do you know what it's hard?
It's hard to even think about.
I don't even think about that,but it's like so kind of you to
say so, like that, really nice.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
What have been the biggest moments where you've had
to pinch yourself on thisTwitch journey.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
I suppose that I'm able to sometimes be able to get
away with not having like aproper job sometimes.
I used to work.
I only recently left the webcompany I was with, so I'm kind
of coasting along a little bit,because you don't get that much
money from Twitch.
I'll be honest Some days I feellike I'm very, very lucky to be
in the circumstance I'm in atthe moment.
(19:02):
I mean, I don't know how longit's going to be like that, but
at the moment I'm very lucky.
But yeah, I suppose that's themoment.
I'm pretty much like that eachand every day, though so it's
kind of work that's paying off.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Plus, you're on the back of your own obvious
charisma, charm and talent, andI'll edit that bit out I want
one more question before we digin, because I'm already.
I'm like god, is it half 11 orsomething, of everything you've
done?
What's the biggest takeawayfrom twitch streaming, the thing
that's given you the most?
Speaker 2 (19:40):
joy so far.
A community, I mean that's sucha cliche thing but it's uh.
I started with knowing nobodyand feeling a bit lonely,
especially when I came over anda lot of musicians.
They didn't kind of come overand I made sense because they're
not there for me to to watchmusic.
They were there for me to givethem value about how to get the
music out.
And so when I started with thiskind of just streaming, I
(20:03):
didn't expect anyone to turn up,I just kind of wanted to try it
out, kind of thing.
And so the fact that now peopleturn up and I know people by
name, like I don't know you,it's insane to me that like I
can know that many people on theinternet.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
That's ridiculous you've had your own field of
dreams moment a little bit.
Yeah, I appreciate you takingthe time to dig into all that,
and now let's move on to the bitno one really be bothered about
listening to anymore but thisis this.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Is this bit's tough, to be honest, to sit there.
You've got things to.
When you say three games, it'slike, oh my God, what can you
whittle this down to?
Speaker 1 (20:43):
That's the challenge in front of you.
The boat's gone down, you'veswam to the desert island, which
is surprisingly well-equippedfor video games.
Luckily, you've got three gamesthat have meant something to
you.
And where are we beginning?
Speaker 2 (20:57):
No pressure.
You've got three games thathave meant something to you, and
where are we beginning?
No pressure.
So I would say before this isreally tough, because I just
feel like I'm betraying, likeevery other game I've ever
played.
You know what I mean like, oh,what about me?
What about me, you know?
So I'm going to start off witha tori 2600 game centipede
because that was the one that mydad used to play and be really
good at, and it's pretty muchthe only game he ever played.
(21:18):
Maybe he played Duck Hunt onthe NES, but that's it.
He was like I'm really good atthis, I'm going to beat you.
And I've got that fond memory ofme and my dad having something
in common, because he wasmassive in football.
I've never been into footballor anything like that, but that
was a thing I thought well, meand my dad have got that in
common.
He loves this game.
He was actually the better thananyone in the house of it,
although my brothers were liketoddlers at that point.
(21:41):
But I've got fond memories ofhim beating my score, which I
thought was really proud of, andhim beating it again and I
thought, wow, that's amazing,he's brilliant.
So, yes, centipede for me wasalways going to be a.
I mean, I've talked to himabout it.
Since he doesn't remember, hejust looks at me glazed
expression.
I don't know what that is andI've made this up, this whole
romantic thing, you know Maybeyou dreamt it or what.
(22:05):
Maybe I just dreamt it, yeah,but yes, scent of Beard, I loved
that game.
Then it was the one I wasobsessed with on the Atari and I
kind of preferred the arcadeone, because I've tried the
arcade one and I'm justabsolutely rubbish at it of all
the reasons that have ever beengiven.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
I mean, there's been none better, because it's not
about the game, it's about themoment, and that's a special
moment.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
I really yeah, that's a great choice so all the
others are going to be soobvious now, like you honestly
be like, oh really, these areall got a particular theme.
So the next one's super marioworld and the super nintendo.
You're joking, you're justgonna get a bit.
This is where everyone shutsoff.
Now I'm going all right, he'sjust gonna name mario games.
He's talking about super marioagain.
Oh god, so super mario world?
(22:50):
Um, I remember getting this.
I was a big, I would say so thenez, before the snares, was my
favorite console of all time.
But for some reason, when I gotthe snares for super mario
world, that was like the bestchristmas like.
And I remember my mom tellingme like you only get one game
with it, you know, and I can'tafford to get you another game.
It's like, yeah, it's great,it's a minor, but I remember
like completing it a day.
I was so obsessed with it.
But I just remember like justbeing all over it for hours and
(23:14):
hours and hours and it was likeproperly my console and I felt
new, brand new, and it was likeI had made tickets, swap games
with at that point.
So when I had the nairs, Icouldn't, didn't know that many
people within nintendo, the oddperson who could borrow games
off.
But with the snares it feltlike everyone I knew had one, so
I had that access to it.
But super mario world was likeI.
For me it's a top 10.
(23:34):
It's a 10 out of 10 game.
It's just nothing beats it.
It's the best 2d art game.
It's just the best platformer.
Everything about it, it's justabsolutely perfect.
It's one of those games and Iliken it to like super mario 1,
the new one.
It's just in a way, in certainways just as good, because you
can get through super marioworld really easily, complete it
and have a normal great time.
But you can dig into it to findall the other secrets.
(23:56):
So it's almost got like an Aand B game to it, like just a
normal playthrough and then therest of it to get all the 96
exits.
It's just, it's absolutelyclassic and I think it's just
never been beat.
I know it's completely like agame that everyone would put
down on lists, but there's areason for that.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
I hate it.
To be honest with you, there'ssomething about a console
Christmas.
If you're a kid actually ifyou're an adult as well you get
a console at Christmas.
Whatever games are there aswell I mean Super Mario,
obviously, is in a league of itsown anyway, any game you get
(24:33):
with that console at Christmastime is going to kind of sway
into your heart somewhere.
Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
If I got a that console at Christmas time is
going to, kind of it's weighingyour heart somewhere.
Don't get me wrong.
If I got a PlayStation five atChristmas I'd be absolutely made
up or whatever.
But I just I feel with thoseconsoles nowadays, you just I
don't think I do play enough.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
And it's so like today's consoles are so
versatile.
You end up watching YouTube onthem, or Netflix, or something.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Exactly so versatile.
You end up watching youtube onthem or netflix or something
exactly.
That's it, my xbox I've got.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
I've literally played halo when it wants, and now
it's a dvd player, you knowexactly a great choice, and some
might say a predictable choice,but I'm gonna say it's a great
choice anyway.
Great.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
So, mate, you're flying through game number three
, the third one.
I actually wrote three gameshere, so I'm gonna try and pick
one on the fly, because I'm likeI found it so hard to do this.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Actually, you know what?
I'll tell you what?
Before we do your third game,give me some of the nearly runs,
the ones that were close.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Okay, right.
So I was going to say A Link tothe Past, which is the Zelda
game.
I mean, anyone who listens tomy stream will hear this story
over and, over and over again.
I said that it was the firstgame.
I remember as a kid that Iremember staying up 12 o'clock,
past 12 o'clock, which is amemory that no one will have
because it's just such a weirdthing to say.
But I remember going past 12o'clock and being a little bit
(25:48):
like, hmm, this is weird, likethis is that kind of thought
process.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
I loved that mate.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
I loved that.
It's so weird to remember thatand I was like, oh, I'm going to
be absolutely wrecked tomorrowfor school or whatever.
And also I remember it hidingme controller for me SNES.
So my brother couldn't playbecause I was worried he was
going to wipe the game, thatkind of thing.
But I loved it.
It was a proper RPG and allthat and I don't want to go into
(26:20):
too much because we won't go tothe main one.
But uh, yeah, link to the pastwas, um, definitely very close.
Yeah, I've got similar memoriesof that one such a good game,
so good.
And the other one, um, before Igot to the main one, was metal
gear solid on the playstationone.
Oh yeah, yeah, that used to befor a long time probably my
favorite game.
It's the one I'd always referto because I remember that got
me back into gaming when I wasum.
I think it was.
When I got back to Sony.
I thought I need to play somegames here and I think at the
time I might be getting mixed upwith the time.
I remember going through mymate's games and he had a copy
(26:42):
of it, so it wasn't even a real,the real buddy version of it
and we could all chip outPlayStation.
Everyone was doing that, yeahand he just had this stack and I
was like, okay, well, this isgood, okay, so let's try that.
And I was immediately hooked.
Like it was incredible thestorytelling as much as nut as
it was, and the bosses and justthe dialogue, everything about
(27:02):
that game was just so cool.
You just felt cool going aroundall those corners and all that,
with all this dialogue goingoff and the music and being able
to say hi behind the cameras.
It was one of those things thatyou actually it gave you that
like like knot in your stomachplaying it, definitely,
definitely, and it had a reallygood twist at the end, as I
remember, and I just thought itwas great and I loved.
(27:23):
I love all the Metal Gear Solidseries.
Metal Gear Solid series.
I loved them so much.
Even 5, even though it'sunfinished, I loved it.
But yeah, that was the otherone and they're the two that
didn't make the list.
So this game now.
So Fortnite I would have lovedit if it had been Fortnite.
(27:43):
I played it once.
I keep threatening to go backand play it.
I should do it.
It's Shadowrun.
I don't know if you know thatone.
Yeah, on the Super Nintendo.
There's two versions, one onthe Super NES and one on the
Mega Drive, and they're verydifferent games, but Shadowrun
on the super nerds and the oneon the mega drive and the very
different games.
But this shadow, the shadow onthe stairs, is my literally my
favorite game of all time and Ijust remember it's like a
cyberpunk rpg and it had anincredible soundtrack and I
(28:05):
think it was like the first timeas a kid where I kind of
thought the music of this gamewas amazing, where everything
else of the game I thought, youknow it just came part and
parcel and just didn't eventhink about it.
But I remember that the firsttime and thinking, god, the
music in this game is so goodand really dark and I loved the
story because it was all sci-fiand because I used to live kind
of like with two of my brothersin the same room.
(28:26):
It was total escapism, likeputting headphones in me to TV
and just kind of playing it forhours and I was literally in
that world and there's nothinglike it.
When I was younger I used toread a lot of books when we were
brothers like properly intofootball and all that stuff.
So I always felt a little bitdifferent to them, a bit
isolated from them.
So with stuff like that,anything I could do to kind of
(28:46):
escape from all of that wasgreat.
So Shadowrun I always thinkabout that.
That's like a different world Iused to jump into.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Oh yeah, great choice and so immersive even at the
time it came out.
Still such an immersive gameand probably still is a test of
time, no doubt so expensive.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
I'd love to get a copy of it, but every time I
look at it it goes up 20 quid.
So I'm trying to not look at itanymore because it keeps going
up.
I think I've got some weirdpower over it, you know.
So I'm not doing it.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Three brilliant choices, mate.
I can't argue with that.
I knew they'd all be obviouslyretro-flavoured.
But are you going to be burninga retro game Because it's going
to get chilly on the desertisland and we're going to have
to burn something for heat andit's going to have to be one of
the games?
Speaker 2 (29:36):
that's forever let you down.
Do you know what Something forheat it's going to have to be
one of the games that's foreverlet you down?
Do you know what?
I think this was the hardestquestion because, even if it's
rubbish, I kind of findsomething about it.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
I, like I know, think about all those guys and girls
who worked on the game.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Oh God.
So it's a really tough one,because everything I was coming
up with is like, well,originally I was going say, uh,
yoshi's island.
Because that kind of let medown, because it was like, oh,
it wasn't like mario world, butit's still a good game.
So I thought of, I thought oflike what's really let me down,
and every time I play even now,I go back on it and play it's a
mario kart 8, weirdly enough.
Oh really, yeah, but you loveit.
(30:11):
Love that game, mate.
Yeah, here's the reason, thoughI'm rubbish at it.
I'm rubbish at it and I don'tknow why.
Um, because I was so good atthe original mario kart and
mario kart 64 and double dash onthe game cube, and for some
reason I just can't play thisone.
I don't know, I don't have tochange the engine out of it,
like the main, the way it's made, but it just doesn't feel like
(30:32):
the same game.
I don't know why, and it's morethe case I'd burn it, because I
get I rage every time I play itand I don't understand.
Like the other day I wasplaying on someone's stream and
for the first time in ages itwas coming like second, about to
come first, and someone justhit me with something behind and
then suddenly was last and Iliterally threw me control down.
I was like I, I'm not playingthis anymore.
It's I the all of us don't have.
Just every time you get hit inthe other ones, it always feels
(30:53):
like you should come back.
It doesn't feel like you can dothat in this game.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
I don't know if I should put this out there, mate,
but we're both getting older.
We're both not young.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
They're totally an element of that.
I can go back and play thisnext one and it's just as good.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
No, I get absolutely If I play it.
I get whooped on it every time.
If they play with the kids,they absolutely destroy me.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
I'm contemplating watching a YouTube video, like
of a 12 year old telling me howto play it.
Like that's what I'm going todo because, like, this is where
you do this shortcut and you dothat's what I'm going to watch
because I need, I want to getbetter at it but that said, I
want to burn it as well you'vegot a better engine.
You've got the better wheels ohmy god, does that matter and
(31:37):
apparently slipstreams in this.
I don't think it's ever been inany of the maricarts.
And then there's all theseshortcuts.
I don't even know how to do andI just need to.
I just need, I need to applymyself and get better at it, but
I am every time I try and justplay and go right.
Today I'm gonna get better atit.
I just start raging and throwthe controller down, so it's.
It's no better interest if it'sit for fuel.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
I love it.
Mario Kart 8 is going on thefire, well deserved, even though
it's a fantastic game andobviously it can get lonely on
the desert island, so you needone gaming character, companion,
right?
Speaker 2 (32:09):
this is the most obvious answer and you can
probably guess it from what I'vesaid earlier.
Any ideas?
It's so obvious, like we'vealready mentioned.
Go on, what is it the name?
Is it someone practical?
No, it's a main.
It's a game for you.
I'm not turning it around toyou Name a character from
Nintendo.
What Mario?
(32:30):
It's Mario.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
You're having Mario.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Why are you having Mario on there?
It's the most obvious thing,right?
This was the question that Iwas going around all the world
with, like I don't know whoshould I have, and everyone I
came up with.
Well, pac-man, he'll easeeverything up, what the hell?
You know, everyone has had likesome pros and cons, but mainly
cons.
Like most of them, I couldn'teven talk to, like Solid Snake.
You'd never find him.
He'd be like sitting there in asand cardboard box or something
(32:55):
.
So what's the point?
And he wouldn't talk to you.
So, but I was sat there andwent wait a minute.
The obvious answer is right infront of you and it's mario.
Because if you're on a desertisland, what's best like?
Because mario is basically thebarbie of the toy of the video
game industry, because he's beena plumber, a doctor, football
coach, a painter, an actor, anactor, a janitor, a builder,
(33:17):
composer he's been everything.
So he's going to help you.
He's like Tom Cruise, he can doeverything.
So that's why I'd have him onthe island, because he's going
to be incredible for you If onlyTom Cruise had played.
Mario as well.
Oh God, that would be good.
I don't know if he'd doanything like that, but I wish
he would.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
You know what you're convinced most people go for,
like lara croft with hersurvival skills and oh yeah,
that was one element, I mean atthe point you arrived, there is
no plumbing on the island.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Well, I'm gonna rectify that problem straight
away.
Well, you can, you could dothat.
You could sort that out for youexactly it's a wise choice.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
It's a wise choice, I think so.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Another retro choice as well yeah, exactly, maybe not
modern mario, with he's gotlike his top off and stuff.
I don't know about that one,but uh, the classic mario, you
know.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Now I can't get an image of mario with his top on
nintendo put that out.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Mario's got nipples it.
It's weird.
Don't want to think of him likethat, but he did that oh my god
, ah, amazing Centipede MarioShadowrun.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
You've burnt Mario Kart and you've got, and you've
got Mario there's a lot of Marioin it.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
No, it's terrible.
I can tell I'm a Nintendo guy.
I'm obsessed with Sega as well,but for some reason I've just
got a Nintendo in mind at themoment.
I was a Sega kid.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Yeah, my brother was Nintendo, I had the Sega.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
See, it was the opposite for us.
My brother had the Sega and Ihad the Nintendo, but I got the
best of both worlds.
There's a load of Sega I loved.
Never liked Sonic, but I lovedpretty much everything else,
like massively into Golden Axeand Street to Rage and even Alex
Kidd and all that.
I loved all that, but I'venever gotten to Sonic.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
That's the way to be, because I was an idiot who, if
it was on Nintendo, I didn'twant to know, even though I'd be
arguing on the playgrounds withall the Nintendo kids.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Yeah it was a silly time.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Yeah Well, mate.
That basically brings us to aclose.
I've got to thank you athousand times because you've
been fantastic and it's been anabsolute pleasure talking to you
.
Like I said, I'm not justtapping into chat and waiting
for it to scroll down Goodmorning, good morning when we
work, but no, it's been anabsolute pleasure talking to you
(35:36):
, mate.
If anyone isn't already awareof Mr Steejay, it's been
absolute pleasure talking to you, mate.
I'm gonna.
If anyone isn't already awareof mr steejay, it's all one word
.
It looks like mr stedge ontwitch youtube, because you'll
be in for a massive treat.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
My favorite streamer and favorite creator of youtube
shots as well, mate, absolutelymagic being too kind, mate,
you'll have to edit all this outand just make it look like
you're just shouting at me orsomething.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Apart from that, mate , I should have mentioned your
amazing music as well, becauseI'm multi-talented, but we'll do
that some other time, becausefor now, thank you and cheers
Steve and we'll talk again.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Oh, thanks so much, mate.
I will talk to you in thefuture, no worries, take care,
mate.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Bye-bye, bye-bye, thank you.
Welcome, dear listener, to Desert Island Gamer
.
A quick-fire interview podcastdigging into those video games
that shaped us into thewholesome, kind-hearted people
we are today.
The entirely original premiseone desert island, one guest,
three games they adore, one gamethey abhor and a carefully
selected gaming character withwhich to spend an eternity of
(00:23):
moonlit walks along the beach.
It could be weird, it could beunhinged and it could have
crappy sound quality, but atleast it will be short To the
island.
Welcome, dear listener, toDesert Island Gamer, the podcast
(00:47):
that is undeniably shabby chic,if chic also meant shabby.
And today we have a genuinetreat in store.
His friends call him Stephen, Icall him Mr Steejay, and bow
politely when entering any roomthat he's in Evening mate.
I was going to say good morningthen, but what do you think of
the evening?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
I was expecting you to say and some people call him
Stedge or Mrs Tedge or somethinglike that For a long time you
were Mr Stedge to me.
I think that was like that fora lot of people.
To be honest, I think I nevertold anyone anything different.
I was like oh yeah, okay, we'llgo with that, but a lot of
people were going around callingme Mr Stedge.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
For me, mate.
You are Twitch streaming gold.
You are retro goodness games,films, tv.
You're the man who gets the DogTanya theme forever, like
genuinely hours after the stream.
I'm humming that goddamn tune.
Do Do you know what?
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Someone said to me and I kind of agree with this
it's the only song that youcould use.
That is okay to use.
If it was any other theme tune,it would just annoy you, do?
You know what I mean?
Even if it was He-Man orThundercats at some point, it
would just do your head in.
But the Dogtine you want?
Speaker 1 (01:56):
I don't know what it is it gets in your head and it
yeah, that's what it is.
One of the main reasons I wantto talk to you as well is just
you've created what I believe tobe the most like big-hearted,
wholesome, entertaining, funny,occasional gaming channel on the
whole of twitch.
(02:16):
You must be proud of whatyou've done.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
I love twitch, I, um, I it's hard to talk about in
that sense, because I feel likeit's still kind of a thing.
I'm trying to, you know, fathomwhat it, what's going on.
It feels like a bit of alifesaver for me because I just
kind of accidentally fell intoit and um, so I'm just trying to
still work out what's going on.
But yeah, I'm just uh, when Istarted Twitch I was just kind
(02:40):
of not even trying to kind ofwork out what to do, but kind of
do do what I want to do.
People will hopefully turn up.
And then I just wanted to kindof bump into people who had
like-minded you know things thatwe're into like you know, like
cartoons and 80s, anything 80sor 80s, 90s, it's just got a
massive heart and it's based onyou, mate, because the one thing
that always strikes me is younever feel like you're putting
(03:01):
anything on, you never feel likeanything's forced.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
You genuinely have this massive enthusiasm.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
I think it's an age I say this a lot, but I think
it's that age thing when you'rea kid You're into stuff but you
start becoming a bit rebelliousagainst it and you want to be an
adult.
And then when you start beingan adult and you start, like,
you know, chasing girls and allthat stuff, you kind of thinking
(03:29):
about, oh god, those years wereactually the best years of your
life and you start.
You start getting like excitedabout kind of reminiscing, and
then you get to this point whereyou can start, you know,
getting hold of all the toys andthe girl watching, all the
cartoons and stuff that you usedto have the things you used to
maybe shun and go.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Oh no, I'm just into like football.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Now you can embrace it yeah, even at school, like
when you see, you know, back inthe day we're kind of seen for
nerds and geeks, we like thatnow but celebrated, you know,
you go into primark and there'st-shirts with nerd or geek on or
like or turtles or somethinglike that.
That wouldn't have been thecase years ago because that
would have been like, oh youknow, we're gonna grow up from
that.
But now, like, being an adultkind of man, child or whatever,
(04:03):
is kind of celebrated and so itshould be, because, yeah, that's
exactly what we are.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Yeah, yeah, I love it , wouldn't have any other way.
And you're also making somewaves on youtube as well, which
is brilliant.
I absolutely love your shortskits um, it's not that I can't
stand to like watch it for morethan 60 seconds.
The son and dad absolutely myfavorite thing to watch.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Oh yeah, that's another one I accidentally kind
of fell into because it was justlike I just want to make,
because I started off youtube,so it's kind of I was easy to
start off there and then go totwitch and then when I wanted to
kind of do more things on, Ijust got the itch to want to
make more videos and have somefun and stuff.
So I thought I'll try stuff out.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
I've been following you now on Twitter.
I'm like about two years deepyeah.
God, you're there near thestart, really, yeah fairly, and
just to see the way you've kindof evolved and the different
things you're bringing in, thedifferent aspects, it's just
brilliant to see.
Long may it continue.
But obviously, obviously todaywe're here for some very very
(05:05):
very important business.
As an island gamer, you'll begetting to pick three games that
mattered, one that you notnecessarily hated, but it's let
you down, and an all-importantgaming character.
But before we dig into that, Ijust wanted to.
If we just kind of push backthrough the mist of time for a
moment, so like your earliestchildhood memories, was there a
moment, or maybe multiplemoments, that, like the video
(05:26):
game, got its claws into you?
Speaker 2 (05:28):
so the earliest gaming memory I I can have is,
uh, I think of, is, um, I think,my dad bringing back a pong
kind of clone home from a carboot.
It was like it wasn't theactual, you know, everyone had
their own version of pong, yeah,or whatever, and it was just.
It was two little paddlesplugged into the TV and I
remember being a bit obsessedwith that as a kid, just
watching like two lines, youknow on either side of the
(05:49):
screen that we could.
We did so many hours doing that,oh that isn't that nuts Like
when we think about that and howexcited we were.
And then you think abouttrailer the other day and go
look how far we've come.
I mean, isn't that absolutelyincredible.
Like that was our grand theftauto back in the day.
You know tennis with two, twolines on each side.
(06:10):
You know what?
Speaker 1 (06:10):
when a machine like that first got brought into the
house and I remember we ushaving the pong as well, the
pong machine that was biggerthan the grand theft auto six
trailer because I was like, yeah, mind-blowing, and it's like
it's back then when you knowlike I've got a couple brothers
and a sister, it's back then.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
When you know like I've got a couple of brothers
and a sister, and it's back thenwhen that was the only gaming
thing, like not everyone in thehouse had their own gaming
system or platform or whatever.
So we all were like, jumping onit, I'm like, oh, I've got to
be first, I'm going to try, andyou know, battle against you.
So it wasn't like we all hadour own things, because I don't
think back then most people justhad like one thing in the house
and that was it for me, andmost had one tv as well, so
(06:45):
you'd all kind of get on thesame tv set and argue about it.
Yeah, that's it.
So that was like the first kindof memory.
But the first kind of console Iever had which was like mine
was the Atari 2600, which wasjust after that.
That's the one I have likemassive memories from, because I
don't know it was mine.
I was able to kind of like sitoff with it, I was able to have
my own cartridges and all thatstuff.
(07:06):
That was like the thing for me.
So I've got a massive love forthat oh, and what a machine what
a machine.
Oh god, yeah, because I didn'tknow about arcades and things
like that back then because Iwas a kid.
So I just thought like dig, dugand centipede and all those
games, I didn't know about themas arcades, I knew them as atari
2600 games and that's it.
I didn't have any friends withit or anything like that, and
(07:27):
there was like no magazines,obviously no internet or
anything.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
That's why I just thought these games just existed
on this system right in frontof me, and that's it I was
wondering because obviouslythere's a little bit of age
difference between me and youand I know that when we were
kids in school we'd go and dropour dinner money into like pole
position on kung fu master downin town.
Is that the same sort ofexperience?
Speaker 2 (07:46):
you had no.
So I'm I'm 42 now, so my firstlike console.
So I was like I got it.
It was, it wasn't even theoriginal woody atari, it was
like the junior ones, which waslike mid 80s I think.
Uh, yeah, so I would have beenabout five or something like six
when I got that, so I wasn'told enough to go to the arcades.
But, um, I didn't really knowabout them until a little bit
(08:08):
later, and that was only when Iwent to like a Butland holiday
camp in in in like Betheli, andthen they had like a little
arcade there and I remembergoing in there for the first
time and being like, oh my god,like what the hell there's?
There's, like god, big giantgames all around me and being
obsessed and didn't even haveany money to play on them.
I was like floating around,like I always use this analogy
(08:29):
but it goes well with thefloating around like a wolf in a
cartoon going after a pie on awindow shelf to every machine,
because that's what it was.
It was just like absolutelymagical.
But I never had the money forarcades so I literally just
ended up watching other peopleplay.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
I used to starve every lunchtime because I'd run
in for like 10 seconds of KungFu Master.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Oh my God.
But we did have a video shoparound the corner from ours
which had WrestleFesting.
I remember being obsessed withthat, just watching people play
that and the size of thewrestlers on the screen and
you're watching.
Now they're not as big, butwhen you're a kid looking up
that looked the most incrediblething and for a wrestling fan of
that age as well, it was justall your favourites were on the
(09:08):
screen.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
I've got to admit I'm kind of always chasing the new
thing, but you've stayed in theretro place playing the old
games still.
And what is it about the retrogames that's kept you there?
Speaker 2 (09:24):
It's weird because I think about when I stopped kind
of getting the new stuff and Ithink it's around after the
Super Nintendo Because I thinkmy brother and I started getting
the N64 and GameCube so I justplayed it through them.
So I didn't own those systems,I just played it through my
brothers.
So I felt like that was thelast bit of ownership.
So I kind of covered that eraLike the era more than anything.
I mean they did NES and theSNES and the Master System, mega
Drive.
That kind of 8 and 16-bit erafor me is like that's my era.
(09:45):
I felt like that was when I hadthose systems.
So anything else I kind ofalways dipped in and out and I
got into PlayStation quite a bitlater on, but I was always like
I played those games throughother people.
So I never felt like I had anyownership over them.
Well, until I started workingfor Sony years later.
So I felt like I had to own aPlayStation and all that then.
So that's when I startedpicking up gaming again.
(10:08):
But my heart has always beenthat Again, we're talking about
all the things I loved about the80s and 90s, about the cartoons
and everything, but it alsogoes into the times and those
memories of playing video games.
I have good memories of laterstuff, but it's more about when
I was a kid, really, or ateenager stuff, but it's more
about when I was a kid, really,or a teenager, ah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Yeah, that makes total sense and respect to you,
because the games was so muchharder and so painfully brutal
and unforgiving.
There's a massive audience forit as well, obviously.
Now, talking of audiences,obviously your twitch channel is
growing.
We need to dive in.
It's now basically the day job,I'm convinced you well on your
way to becoming somewhat ofother celebrity, and it's just
me getting in early beforeyou've got an agent, oh, I
(10:47):
imagine.
But going right back to yourchannel's inception, I'm curious
did you go in with a plan orwere you going in with just
curiosity about the wholestreaming platform and the
streaming?
Speaker 2 (10:59):
world.
So it's weird because I startedoff, as I said earlier, I
started off on YouTube as amusician and every Tuesday I
would.
So it's weird because I startedoff, as I said earlier, I
started off on YouTube as amusician and every Tuesday I
would go live on YouTube andtalk to other musicians about
their plan as independentmusicians.
Because a lot of them were kindof worried what do we do with
our music?
Blah, blah, blah.
And I was like, well, I was anindependent musician, this is
(11:19):
what I'm doing.
I was going to go out there andtalk about what I'm doing and
that latched onto a few people.
So I had no plan of like, oh,I'm going to be a retro streamer
on Twitch at all.
That never came.
I just thought, well, I'm goingto do this on YouTube.
So during the pandemic, I waslooking at ways musicians could
earn money and I saw Twitch.
I saw musicians were going overto Twitch because you obviously
(11:43):
couldn't gig.
I don't know if I'd do all thethings that us musicians could
do.
So I thought, well, people aregoing over to Twitch, it seems
like, and doing the coverstreams or playing gigs and all
that.
So I thought, well, I'll goover and have a go, and then I
can talk to musicians and sayI'll try this out and see what
it's like.
And I went over there and maybetwo people of the people who
were following me went over, um,and then next stream, because I
(12:03):
was just doing ambient guitarstreams, because that's the kind
of stuff I used to do.
Then the next stream, nobodyturned up.
And I was like, oh, all, right,okay, and again, and the next
stream, and maybe one personturned up and no one was in.
So I thought, well, you knowwhat, I might just kind of split
this up a little bit, becausethere was a gamer as well.
There's so many systems.
I was like, well, I don't justkind of on the odd day play a
(12:23):
game.
And that like kind of took offa little bit quicker and I
realized, oh, it's, it's a lotharder to be a music.
I think it's also one of thethings I didn't like when I was
doing music.
I was doing the same kind ofmusic every day and I wasn't
treating it with like respect.
In a way.
I always say this.
I wasn't treating with respectlike, uh, you know, if your
favorite band did a gig everyday, you probably wouldn't go
(12:44):
and see them, and that's whattheir mentality I started
thinking about.
So I started thinking, well, ifI just start playing a game
every now and again to split itup and so it's not just doing
music every day, I'll see howthat goes and that got a bit
more traction and also I justend up enjoying that way more
than I was just doing playingmusic.
Yeah, so we're just.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
I just stuck to that and just went I'm gonna play a
game now and again and kind ofdidn't look back I love just to
see how far it's coming, just,and it's not even in a long
space of time in this likelittle window really.
Suddenly this whole thing isexploding, well on the way to
exploding, and it's constantlygathering pace and it's just,
yeah, I love to see it.
It must be kind of night andday.
Now then to where you were whenyou started and is there kind
(13:25):
of a typical Mr Steejay week now?
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Well, do you know what it's like?
Getting up every morning at 9am is a good routine for me.
It gets me.
I really find it hard to havelike with attention, I have
attention issues, so thatgetting up at 9am every well, I
had to get up earlier than thatobviously for the stream, but
getting up and knowing of astream and hit the go live
button before then, that givesme that kind of routine.
(13:50):
So that's kind of been good forthe last three years to do that
and in terms of like how itcompares to when I first started
it's, it's weirdly like thesame in a way, because it I
think they are.
The only thing that's changedis generations of different like
people and the phases and stuffthat have happened where I was
playing certain games one timeand now kind of gone right into
retro.
So that happens and, um, sinceI kind of turned the viewer
(14:13):
number off like years ago, it'skind of like I never know how
many people are in the stream sothey could be like you know,
okay, I feel like my thing.
I always say to everyone anyone, just turn it off, because it
can affect your mood.
If it's high or low, it'llaffect your mood in some way,
you know.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
From outside looking in, it looks like there's a
massive amount of planning andpreparation going into your
streams.
Is that out of planning andpreparation going?
Speaker 2 (14:39):
into your streams?
Is that the case, or are youabsolutely winging it every day?
I, you know what I'd love to beall like.
I, I'd love to be all humbleand go.
Oh, you know what, you know,it's at his turn up or whatever
and and and it just happens.
But no, it's.
I kind of wish it was like that.
I really do, but it does takework.
Yeah, it's like the, but I waslike something.
I'm saying the stream.
Today I do this thing where Ijust show screenshots and people
have to, um, you know, get tothe movie and it's really fun.
(14:59):
I love doing it.
Even a little bit of that umtakes up, you know, half an hour
every day, um, just looking forscreenshots or whatever, and
but those half an hour's add upfor every little task you've got
.
And now I was saying today it'sgreat, though, because you
never want to be in a positionwhere you haven't got something
to do or an idea you want to tryand kind of fulfill, because
you always want to be trying tochase something.
So I'm kind of glad I'm in thatsituation where I'm not being
(15:22):
complacent about it.
I'm just kind of tearing up andgoing, pressing record and go,
because I think that would bethe wrong way to do it in my
books.
Anyway, I think you you'vealways should be kind of
evolving, yeah and how oftendoes all that planning and
preparation just get completelyderailed when chat goes off on
some wild and then for the nexthour talking about some mad
random, but I think that's whatI that's what I like, so I don't
(15:44):
mind, I just like I always tryand have, like I have a notebook
right in front of me now for,like the you know the things
we're talking about now.
You know for the um, the, theelements later.
But I always use that as wellbefore a stream to say, oh,
there's any topics I want totalk about or whatever, because
of my memory's crap.
So if there's anything I can'tlike, you know that's, we
haven't got anything to talkabout.
I've got something that I cankind of mention and that's the
(16:04):
way of doing it.
Yeah, but the derailing thing Ikind of.
That's what I'm there for.
I love all that.
That's there.
I want.
I don't want the stream to beto it every day, so we go you're
definitely achieving that everyday.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
In terms of now, like , like, what are the biggest
challenges you think you'refacing at this point in time?
Speaker 2 (16:23):
like I'm always trying to think about what I can
do with it, but it's one ofthose things, like I'd love to
get to twitch partner, so, um,that's a thing I'd like to do
like next year.
So that's a big goal for me.
And I mean, yeah, I get acertain number of um people
watching and all that and theiraverage views over like a
certain amount of streams andall that.
And that's tough for me becauseI don't like looking at stats.
(16:43):
But I've got to force myself tostart looking at stats, to go,
okay, did I do it this time andwhat can I achieve?
And it's one of those thingswhere I can.
I don't really know what to dowith that info because I don't
really look at those numbers.
So for me, it's just my.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
My advice to myself is just just try and make fun
streams, you know, and thenbuild on that and come up with
more fun ideas is it difficultto keep the fun side of it for
yourself, because obviously I'veheard people like you start
doing something you love, yousometimes feel like you've got
to punch the clock before youstart and do you ever have that
kind of up and down with it.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
I think every streamer has up and down and
that's where that you know youprepare the, the tame bear now,
which is probably in every bitof in every industry, isn't it?
You know every job, um, and Ithink it's it hits a lot of
streamers more because we don'thave, like a, a, a dead-on
schedule, or we have a schedulethat can kind of go way more
than um, like people with anine-on schedule, or we have a
schedule that can go way morethan people with a 9-5 can do.
(17:39):
You can do 12-hour streams,just a drop of a hat.
I think if most streamers dothat, they're going to maybe hit
some burnout.
I've definitely hit burnout nowand again.
Where I go, ok, I'm going tohave to take a couple of days
off.
I've learned a little bit moreabout that lately.
Where I go, ok, I need to takethe foot of the gas a little bit
, but it's all.
But it all comes from placebecause I love.
I love it and thrive on it.
I love the kind of engagementand the chat with people and it
(18:01):
makes me feel incredibly warminside when people can, you know
, relate and we all chat aboutthe things we love and I think
you've become an important partof a lot of people's day.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
You'll be doing a lot of good for their mental health
and things like this andstaying on top of things, just
tuning in and having thatfamiliarity and that, and the
fact that you can have a backand forth as well, like you can
have that conversation in chatwith the people viewing it's
just like I think you do,probably more good than you've
been realized to be fair, that'sreally kind.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Do you know what it's hard?
It's hard to even think about.
I don't even think about that,but it's like so kind of you to
say so, like that, really nice.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
What have been the biggest moments where you've had
to pinch yourself on thisTwitch journey.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
I suppose that I'm able to sometimes be able to get
away with not having like aproper job sometimes.
I used to work.
I only recently left the webcompany I was with, so I'm kind
of coasting along a little bit,because you don't get that much
money from Twitch.
I'll be honest Some days I feellike I'm very, very lucky to be
in the circumstance I'm in atthe moment.
(19:02):
I mean, I don't know how longit's going to be like that, but
at the moment I'm very lucky.
But yeah, I suppose that's themoment.
I'm pretty much like that eachand every day, though so it's
kind of work that's paying off.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Plus, you're on the back of your own obvious
charisma, charm and talent, andI'll edit that bit out I want
one more question before we digin, because I'm already.
I'm like god, is it half 11 orsomething, of everything you've
done?
What's the biggest takeawayfrom twitch streaming, the thing
that's given you the most?
Speaker 2 (19:40):
joy so far.
A community, I mean that's sucha cliche thing but it's uh.
I started with knowing nobodyand feeling a bit lonely,
especially when I came over anda lot of musicians.
They didn't kind of come overand I made sense because they're
not there for me to to watchmusic.
They were there for me to givethem value about how to get the
music out.
And so when I started with thiskind of just streaming, I
(20:03):
didn't expect anyone to turn up,I just kind of wanted to try it
out, kind of thing.
And so the fact that now peopleturn up and I know people by
name, like I don't know you,it's insane to me that like I
can know that many people on theinternet.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
That's ridiculous you've had your own field of
dreams moment a little bit.
Yeah, I appreciate you takingthe time to dig into all that,
and now let's move on to the bitno one really be bothered about
listening to anymore but thisis this.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Is this bit's tough, to be honest, to sit there.
You've got things to.
When you say three games, it'slike, oh my God, what can you
whittle this down to?
Speaker 1 (20:43):
That's the challenge in front of you.
The boat's gone down, you'veswam to the desert island, which
is surprisingly well-equippedfor video games.
Luckily, you've got three gamesthat have meant something to
you.
And where are we beginning?
Speaker 2 (20:57):
No pressure.
You've got three games thathave meant something to you, and
where are we beginning?
No pressure.
So I would say before this isreally tough, because I just
feel like I'm betraying, likeevery other game I've ever
played.
You know what I mean like, oh,what about me?
What about me, you know?
So I'm going to start off witha tori 2600 game centipede
because that was the one that mydad used to play and be really
good at, and it's pretty muchthe only game he ever played.
(21:18):
Maybe he played Duck Hunt onthe NES, but that's it.
He was like I'm really good atthis, I'm going to beat you.
And I've got that fond memory ofme and my dad having something
in common, because he wasmassive in football.
I've never been into footballor anything like that, but that
was a thing I thought well, meand my dad have got that in
common.
He loves this game.
He was actually the better thananyone in the house of it,
although my brothers were liketoddlers at that point.
(21:41):
But I've got fond memories ofhim beating my score, which I
thought was really proud of, andhim beating it again and I
thought, wow, that's amazing,he's brilliant.
So, yes, centipede for me wasalways going to be a.
I mean, I've talked to himabout it.
Since he doesn't remember, hejust looks at me glazed
expression.
I don't know what that is andI've made this up, this whole
romantic thing, you know Maybeyou dreamt it or what.
(22:05):
Maybe I just dreamt it, yeah,but yes, scent of Beard, I loved
that game.
Then it was the one I wasobsessed with on the Atari and I
kind of preferred the arcadeone, because I've tried the
arcade one and I'm justabsolutely rubbish at it of all
the reasons that have ever beengiven.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
I mean, there's been none better, because it's not
about the game, it's about themoment, and that's a special
moment.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
I really yeah, that's a great choice so all the
others are going to be soobvious now, like you honestly
be like, oh really, these areall got a particular theme.
So the next one's super marioworld and the super nintendo.
You're joking, you're justgonna get a bit.
This is where everyone shutsoff.
Now I'm going all right, he'sjust gonna name mario games.
He's talking about super marioagain.
Oh god, so super mario world?
(22:50):
Um, I remember getting this.
I was a big, I would say so thenez, before the snares, was my
favorite console of all time.
But for some reason, when I gotthe snares for super mario
world, that was like the bestchristmas like.
And I remember my mom tellingme like you only get one game
with it, you know, and I can'tafford to get you another game.
It's like, yeah, it's great,it's a minor, but I remember
like completing it a day.
I was so obsessed with it.
But I just remember like justbeing all over it for hours and
(23:14):
hours and hours and it was likeproperly my console and I felt
new, brand new, and it was likeI had made tickets, swap games
with at that point.
So when I had the nairs, Icouldn't, didn't know that many
people within nintendo, the oddperson who could borrow games
off.
But with the snares it feltlike everyone I knew had one, so
I had that access to it.
But super mario world was likeI.
For me it's a top 10.
(23:34):
It's a 10 out of 10 game.
It's just nothing beats it.
It's the best 2d art game.
It's just the best platformer.
Everything about it, it's justabsolutely perfect.
It's one of those games and Iliken it to like super mario 1,
the new one.
It's just in a way, in certainways just as good, because you
can get through super marioworld really easily, complete it
and have a normal great time.
But you can dig into it to findall the other secrets.
(23:56):
So it's almost got like an Aand B game to it, like just a
normal playthrough and then therest of it to get all the 96
exits.
It's just, it's absolutelyclassic and I think it's just
never been beat.
I know it's completely like agame that everyone would put
down on lists, but there's areason for that.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
I hate it.
To be honest with you, there'ssomething about a console
Christmas.
If you're a kid actually ifyou're an adult as well you get
a console at Christmas.
Whatever games are there aswell I mean Super Mario,
obviously, is in a league of itsown anyway, any game you get
(24:33):
with that console at Christmastime is going to kind of sway
into your heart somewhere.
Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
If I got a that console at Christmas time is
going to, kind of it's weighingyour heart somewhere.
Don't get me wrong.
If I got a PlayStation five atChristmas I'd be absolutely made
up or whatever.
But I just I feel with thoseconsoles nowadays, you just I
don't think I do play enough.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
And it's so like today's consoles are so
versatile.
You end up watching YouTube onthem, or Netflix, or something.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Exactly so versatile.
You end up watching youtube onthem or netflix or something
exactly.
That's it, my xbox I've got.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
I've literally played halo when it wants, and now
it's a dvd player, you knowexactly a great choice, and some
might say a predictable choice,but I'm gonna say it's a great
choice anyway.
Great.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
So, mate, you're flying through game number three
, the third one.
I actually wrote three gameshere, so I'm gonna try and pick
one on the fly, because I'm likeI found it so hard to do this.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Actually, you know what?
I'll tell you what?
Before we do your third game,give me some of the nearly runs,
the ones that were close.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Okay, right.
So I was going to say A Link tothe Past, which is the Zelda
game.
I mean, anyone who listens tomy stream will hear this story
over and, over and over again.
I said that it was the firstgame.
I remember as a kid that Iremember staying up 12 o'clock,
past 12 o'clock, which is amemory that no one will have
because it's just such a weirdthing to say.
But I remember going past 12o'clock and being a little bit
(25:48):
like, hmm, this is weird, likethis is that kind of thought
process.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
I loved that mate.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
I loved that.
It's so weird to remember thatand I was like, oh, I'm going to
be absolutely wrecked tomorrowfor school or whatever.
And also I remember it hidingme controller for me SNES.
So my brother couldn't playbecause I was worried he was
going to wipe the game, thatkind of thing.
But I loved it.
It was a proper RPG and allthat and I don't want to go into
(26:20):
too much because we won't go tothe main one.
But uh, yeah, link to the pastwas, um, definitely very close.
Yeah, I've got similar memoriesof that one such a good game,
so good.
And the other one, um, before Igot to the main one, was metal
gear solid on the playstationone.
Oh yeah, yeah, that used to befor a long time probably my
favorite game.
It's the one I'd always referto because I remember that got
me back into gaming when I wasum.
I think it was.
When I got back to Sony.
I thought I need to play somegames here and I think at the
time I might be getting mixed upwith the time.
I remember going through mymate's games and he had a copy
(26:42):
of it, so it wasn't even a real,the real buddy version of it
and we could all chip outPlayStation.
Everyone was doing that, yeahand he just had this stack and I
was like, okay, well, this isgood, okay, so let's try that.
And I was immediately hooked.
Like it was incredible thestorytelling as much as nut as
it was, and the bosses and justthe dialogue, everything about
(27:02):
that game was just so cool.
You just felt cool going aroundall those corners and all that,
with all this dialogue goingoff and the music and being able
to say hi behind the cameras.
It was one of those things thatyou actually it gave you that
like like knot in your stomachplaying it, definitely,
definitely, and it had a reallygood twist at the end, as I
remember, and I just thought itwas great and I loved.
(27:23):
I love all the Metal Gear Solidseries.
Metal Gear Solid series.
I loved them so much.
Even 5, even though it'sunfinished, I loved it.
But yeah, that was the otherone and they're the two that
didn't make the list.
So this game now.
So Fortnite I would have lovedit if it had been Fortnite.
(27:43):
I played it once.
I keep threatening to go backand play it.
I should do it.
It's Shadowrun.
I don't know if you know thatone.
Yeah, on the Super Nintendo.
There's two versions, one onthe Super NES and one on the
Mega Drive, and they're verydifferent games, but Shadowrun
on the super nerds and the oneon the mega drive and the very
different games.
But this shadow, the shadow onthe stairs, is my literally my
favorite game of all time and Ijust remember it's like a
cyberpunk rpg and it had anincredible soundtrack and I
(28:05):
think it was like the first timeas a kid where I kind of
thought the music of this gamewas amazing, where everything
else of the game I thought, youknow it just came part and
parcel and just didn't eventhink about it.
But I remember that the firsttime and thinking, god, the
music in this game is so goodand really dark and I loved the
story because it was all sci-fiand because I used to live kind
of like with two of my brothersin the same room.
(28:26):
It was total escapism, likeputting headphones in me to TV
and just kind of playing it forhours and I was literally in
that world and there's nothinglike it.
When I was younger I used toread a lot of books when we were
brothers like properly intofootball and all that stuff.
So I always felt a little bitdifferent to them, a bit
isolated from them.
So with stuff like that,anything I could do to kind of
(28:46):
escape from all of that wasgreat.
So Shadowrun I always thinkabout that.
That's like a different world Iused to jump into.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Oh yeah, great choice and so immersive even at the
time it came out.
Still such an immersive gameand probably still is a test of
time, no doubt so expensive.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
I'd love to get a copy of it, but every time I
look at it it goes up 20 quid.
So I'm trying to not look at itanymore because it keeps going
up.
I think I've got some weirdpower over it, you know.
So I'm not doing it.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Three brilliant choices, mate.
I can't argue with that.
I knew they'd all be obviouslyretro-flavoured.
But are you going to be burninga retro game Because it's going
to get chilly on the desertisland and we're going to have
to burn something for heat andit's going to have to be one of
the games?
Speaker 2 (29:36):
that's forever let you down.
Do you know what Something forheat it's going to have to be
one of the games that's foreverlet you down?
Do you know what?
I think this was the hardestquestion because, even if it's
rubbish, I kind of findsomething about it.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
I, like I know, think about all those guys and girls
who worked on the game.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Oh God.
So it's a really tough one,because everything I was coming
up with is like, well,originally I was going say, uh,
yoshi's island.
Because that kind of let medown, because it was like, oh,
it wasn't like mario world, butit's still a good game.
So I thought of, I thought oflike what's really let me down,
and every time I play even now,I go back on it and play it's a
mario kart 8, weirdly enough.
Oh really, yeah, but you loveit.
(30:11):
Love that game, mate.
Yeah, here's the reason, thoughI'm rubbish at it.
I'm rubbish at it and I don'tknow why.
Um, because I was so good atthe original mario kart and
mario kart 64 and double dash onthe game cube, and for some
reason I just can't play thisone.
I don't know, I don't have tochange the engine out of it,
like the main, the way it's made, but it just doesn't feel like
(30:32):
the same game.
I don't know why, and it's morethe case I'd burn it, because I
get I rage every time I play itand I don't understand.
Like the other day I wasplaying on someone's stream and
for the first time in ages itwas coming like second, about to
come first, and someone justhit me with something behind and
then suddenly was last and Iliterally threw me control down.
I was like I, I'm not playingthis anymore.
It's I the all of us don't have.
Just every time you get hit inthe other ones, it always feels
(30:53):
like you should come back.
It doesn't feel like you can dothat in this game.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
I don't know if I should put this out there, mate,
but we're both getting older.
We're both not young.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
They're totally an element of that.
I can go back and play thisnext one and it's just as good.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
No, I get absolutely If I play it.
I get whooped on it every time.
If they play with the kids,they absolutely destroy me.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
I'm contemplating watching a YouTube video, like
of a 12 year old telling me howto play it.
Like that's what I'm going todo because, like, this is where
you do this shortcut and you dothat's what I'm going to watch
because I need, I want to getbetter at it but that said, I
want to burn it as well you'vegot a better engine.
You've got the better wheels ohmy god, does that matter and
(31:37):
apparently slipstreams in this.
I don't think it's ever been inany of the maricarts.
And then there's all theseshortcuts.
I don't even know how to do andI just need to.
I just need, I need to applymyself and get better at it, but
I am every time I try and justplay and go right.
Today I'm gonna get better atit.
I just start raging and throwthe controller down, so it's.
It's no better interest if it'sit for fuel.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
I love it.
Mario Kart 8 is going on thefire, well deserved, even though
it's a fantastic game andobviously it can get lonely on
the desert island, so you needone gaming character, companion,
right?
Speaker 2 (32:09):
this is the most obvious answer and you can
probably guess it from what I'vesaid earlier.
Any ideas?
It's so obvious, like we'vealready mentioned.
Go on, what is it the name?
Is it someone practical?
No, it's a main.
It's a game for you.
I'm not turning it around toyou Name a character from
Nintendo.
What Mario?
(32:30):
It's Mario.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
You're having Mario.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Why are you having Mario on there?
It's the most obvious thing,right?
This was the question that Iwas going around all the world
with, like I don't know whoshould I have, and everyone I
came up with.
Well, pac-man, he'll easeeverything up, what the hell?
You know, everyone has had likesome pros and cons, but mainly
cons.
Like most of them, I couldn'teven talk to, like Solid Snake.
You'd never find him.
He'd be like sitting there in asand cardboard box or something
(32:55):
.
So what's the point?
And he wouldn't talk to you.
So, but I was sat there andwent wait a minute.
The obvious answer is right infront of you and it's mario.
Because if you're on a desertisland, what's best like?
Because mario is basically thebarbie of the toy of the video
game industry, because he's beena plumber, a doctor, football
coach, a painter, an actor, anactor, a janitor, a builder,
(33:17):
composer he's been everything.
So he's going to help you.
He's like Tom Cruise, he can doeverything.
So that's why I'd have him onthe island, because he's going
to be incredible for you If onlyTom Cruise had played.
Mario as well.
Oh God, that would be good.
I don't know if he'd doanything like that, but I wish
he would.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
You know what you're convinced most people go for,
like lara croft with hersurvival skills and oh yeah,
that was one element, I mean atthe point you arrived, there is
no plumbing on the island.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Well, I'm gonna rectify that problem straight
away.
Well, you can, you could dothat.
You could sort that out for youexactly it's a wise choice.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
It's a wise choice, I think so.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Another retro choice as well yeah, exactly, maybe not
modern mario, with he's gotlike his top off and stuff.
I don't know about that one,but uh, the classic mario, you
know.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Now I can't get an image of mario with his top on
nintendo put that out.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Mario's got nipples it.
It's weird.
Don't want to think of him likethat, but he did that oh my god
, ah, amazing Centipede MarioShadowrun.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
You've burnt Mario Kart and you've got, and you've
got Mario there's a lot of Marioin it.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
No, it's terrible.
I can tell I'm a Nintendo guy.
I'm obsessed with Sega as well,but for some reason I've just
got a Nintendo in mind at themoment.
I was a Sega kid.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Yeah, my brother was Nintendo, I had the Sega.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
See, it was the opposite for us.
My brother had the Sega and Ihad the Nintendo, but I got the
best of both worlds.
There's a load of Sega I loved.
Never liked Sonic, but I lovedpretty much everything else,
like massively into Golden Axeand Street to Rage and even Alex
Kidd and all that.
I loved all that, but I'venever gotten to Sonic.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
That's the way to be, because I was an idiot who, if
it was on Nintendo, I didn'twant to know, even though I'd be
arguing on the playgrounds withall the Nintendo kids.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Yeah it was a silly time.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Yeah Well, mate.
That basically brings us to aclose.
I've got to thank you athousand times because you've
been fantastic and it's been anabsolute pleasure talking to you
.
Like I said, I'm not justtapping into chat and waiting
for it to scroll down Goodmorning, good morning when we
work, but no, it's been anabsolute pleasure talking to you
(35:36):
, mate.
If anyone isn't already awareof Mr Steejay, it's been
absolute pleasure talking to you, mate.
I'm gonna.
If anyone isn't already awareof mr steejay, it's all one word
.
It looks like mr stedge ontwitch youtube, because you'll
be in for a massive treat.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
My favorite streamer and favorite creator of youtube
shots as well, mate, absolutelymagic being too kind, mate,
you'll have to edit all this outand just make it look like
you're just shouting at me orsomething.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Apart from that, mate , I should have mentioned your
amazing music as well, becauseI'm multi-talented, but we'll do
that some other time, becausefor now, thank you and cheers
Steve and we'll talk again.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Oh, thanks so much, mate.
I will talk to you in thefuture, no worries, take care,
mate.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Bye-bye, bye-bye, thank you.
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