Destiny Digest #115: Is It December 2nd Yet?

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Hello and welcome to episode 115of the Destiny Digest podcast.
Thank you all so much for joining us tonight.
Hope you guys are doing well tonight.
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I'm your I'm your host and we have Epic Dan.
Hello. And tiddly.
Hello. Welcome.
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All right, So what how was your week, guys?

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What? What all the did you guys get up
to MC Dan? Let's start with you, buddy.
So I think last episode we were talking about hollow night and
while I, I did beat it, I, I hadto go to a friend's wedding
Thursday and I, I beat it like an hour before I had to leave

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for my, I literally was like, well, once you get to there's,
there's 2-3 actual endings, but you can't get to the extra true
endings, as they call them untilyou beat it one time.
I knew I wasn't going to have enough time to be that to get

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the true ending. That's an extra like 40 hours
depending on how skilled you arefor like the Super end game
bosses. But I was like, I can at least
get to the credits. Like generally whenever I do a
playthrough or something, my goal is to get to the credits
where you see all of the people that made the game, right.
I don't consider myself having completed the game until I've
seen the credits roll, and obviously they don't count.

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If you could just go to the menuand just click show credits,
those don't count. You got to get to it after doing
whatever penultimate or ultimateboss you or whatever the ending
is. You had to get to that point,
and then it just subsequently rolls credits.
There were a few triggers you had to do to unlock the final

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boss. OK, these triggers were
incredibly difficult, but I had a timer.
I had a timer because I didn't know what the inbox was going to
be. I figured it was going to be
hard, but I was like, I have to get through these so I can get
to that. And who knows, because I didn't

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know how far I had to go. I just knew I could kind of, you
can tell in the story. I kind of feel like I'm getting
to the end. And how many hours did it take
you to do that? Well, I had to stop multiple
times to go off and farm. OK, you would think that you
don't farm in this game, but because of the currency system,

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there's a there's a there's two currencies.
One allows you to repair your weapons and your armor and your
tools. Those tools are a big portion of
how you fight. You can toss out abilities, you
can do a bunch of stuff, but they all every time you use them
they have like a number like say10 and then you use the ones

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that says 9 and 8:00 and 7:00. So every time you use it and you
fail, when you go back to your bench or revive, you will have a
currency that you then spend to repair it.
OK, a lot of these fights were 5to 12 minutes long and you had

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anywhere from 5:00 to 12:00 waves of enemies.
You had to fight the subsequent bosses in between.
Have you? If anyone that's listening has
ever played Holiday Night One, there's a thing called Pantheon
and Path of Pain where you basically have to do all these
waves without dying. Or if you take a little bit of

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damage, you carry that on to thenext wave and carry on the stuff
to the next wave. So that that kind of similar
thing happens in Silk Song without spoiling it.
And I kept coming across an issue where I would die, I might
get close and then I would run out of all my materials, right.
So then you got to go off and just farm enemies to earn more

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of that currency. And then because I didn't have
the ability to 100% it, there isclearly a lot of other stuff in
the world that I could have likehad as far as like materials or
weapons. And so I would then have to
stop, go go farm for materials, then go farm to purchase other

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kits. But OK, well, this doesn't work.
Let me try this out. Let me try this out.
And once you get to the end gamestuff, they all cost 4567800
what are called rosaries, which is one of the currencies.
OK. The unfortunate part about the
rosary system is most enemies drop 5, maybe 12.

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If you have a model like a armorpiece on you can get like an
extra 50%. They're not dropping a whole
lot, so there's a lot of times when we just running to a bench,
jumping out, killing twelve enemies, running to the bench,
you know, so on and so forth. Just resetting them.
I think it took me the entire playthrough to get to the end

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was about 48 1/2 hours. OK.
Now, granted, that was plenty ofstuff I could have done that I
didn't do. I just don't have time.
I do want to go back and do the true ending that I unlocked,
right? But I just had no time and I was
flying out Thursday morning. I haven't really played in the
game since then, but I wanted tomake sure at the very least I

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got that done because Borderlands 4 is coming out.
I knew when I came back I wouldn't, I would start
prioritizing Borderlands. Yeah, that's pretty much all
I've played. And like I was telling you about
earlier, I literally downloaded or I literally clicked install
on Borderlands 4th and walked out the door.
So yeah, that's been my week. Yeah, yeah.

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And you had a wedding. You had a wedding that you went
to and you said you seem to havehad a really good time there.
So, like, glad to have you back.Glad to have you.
It was really nice. It was actually a friend of mine
but like it's it's the main person I've I personally have
done like all my low man raids with.
OK. He got married, so it was really
fun to like say like see them inperson.

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It was really nice. I got the chance to visit some
of the Midwest and see some of the landmarks and stuff.
Just I spent, that's what I spent all day yesterday doing
was just like exploring and thengot in and it's been Mitra is
trying to sleep. Yeah, reactle me get back to it.

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Yeah, that's great. Well, we're glad to have you
back, man. Also, on behalf of the Midwest,
we're sorry, tiddly it. Was so nice.
Snow. The weather was so nice.
Yeah, yeah. Come back to Alabama.
So yesterday it was raining. No, it was raining yesterday.
It was like 60, but it was really nice.
And then I get back home and it's 95 and I'm like, man, I

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want to go back. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We're kind of like in false fallright now where it's like
yesterday it was like raining a lot and like it went from like
80 something down to six down tothe 60s and then like and it was
off and on all day. So that was, that's been a whole

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thing here in Indiana. We're we're preparing for a
little bit more of a drought this week.
So fun times tiddly. What about you, bud?
OK, so I I did I like I'm think trying to think about it, what I
did this past week and actually was busier than I thought So so

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I did super Vive on Monday and that was I never played it
before. It's a battle Royale, but it's
like, it's, it's, it's basicallylike a, like a, a League of
Legends battle Royale. It's very weird.
But it was actually ended up being really, really fun.
I picked a heel character. And then you, you go through the

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world and you, you know, level up as you go.
And then like, it's the best battle Royale since last person
standing. But I've never played a game
where it's like you just click on things to damage them or or
interact with them. And I ended up being
surprisingly good at this. Like, it was actually pretty

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fun. I would definitely play it
again, I think. I think the only thing is that I
was just feeling like, oh God, Ihave so many other things to do.
This is really fun. But like I I'm too busy for this
game right now. And you're busy, too busy to
have fun right now. So much work to do so Speaking
of so I got into destiny leveling this week I'm 295.
My current goal is 1010 levels per stream so I'm going to try

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to do 10 levels a day. I feel like that's reasonable.
I was going to do 3030 levels the first day and then I was.
What are you doing for farming? We did Kells Fall for like hours
and that was great. That worked out really well.
I got like. I think I got like 20 levels in

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a day or something like it was really good.
But anyway, so I'm like that's, that's definitely a goal.
I'm trying to, I'm trying to putit in, I'm trying to get it
done. Then Borderlands 4 of course
came out this week. So I'm having like a really,
really good time playing that. We were talking about that a
little bit before we started actually.

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All three of us, Italy and the Dan's are vault creators.
So get we got early access to the game the morning it came
out. So it was really fun, you know,
getting early access to like a AAA game that everyone's excited
about and like hopping in all myfriends, my friends are
messaging me like, how did you get in?
That's so exciting. So I think the community is

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really enjoying that. I'm enjoying it.
It definitely like is scratchingthe looter shooter itch for me.
It definitely has a different personality from firm Destiny.
Like it feel like this is my first Borderlands game to be
very cool. It is like it's kind of it's
kind of fun. Like I feel like I'm like I have
a very fresh perspective on it cuz I haven't played the other
ones except for Tiny Tina's. But it's definitely like it's

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more humorous, it's more gory. It's like a different
personality than then Destiny, but a depth like the looter
shooter piece of it is very familiar and like it's
definitely I feel like it's a good fit for my stream and my
community and it's been a lot offun to play.
So we hopped back in today a little bit me and Danfinity.
So I'm like really, I'm really enjoying that.
I I actually feel like I at least for now, I want to include

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it in the regular rotation alongwith destiny and then also on, I
believe on was it Thursday or Friday that there's a new rivals
marvel rival season. So I hopped in this morning.
There's a new flying tank character.
She's an off tank character Angela.
Angela. Hell yeah.
Yeah, she's. A tank character.

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She is a muscle mommy. So she's she is hot and very
chaotic in in the in the matchesthat I've played with her in it,
she's just she's a kind of like a chaos on the battlefield
character and also daredevils being introduced.
So it's but yeah, I mean, like it's the same thing like every
season there's like a meta shakeup.

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There's like nerves and buffs. And so, you know, just trying to
figure out what, you know, what the best situation is for for
that. But it is a very weird meta
right now. So I'm not sure how much rivals
I'm going to play. It's very weird right now.
When I say weird, I mean I play a healer and they buffed

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characters in particular that make it really annoying for
healers to do their job like cranking characters like
disruptive, like like characterslike it just it makes it really,
really hard to heal. So that's that's why I'm like,
oh, I don't know, we'll see how much I play.
I probably will though. I love it.
I still also I still need my front 9 umbrella.
I haven't hopped in Fortnite in a hot minute.
It's just like we were talking about before we started.

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There's just so many good games that are out right now and so
many ones that are coming up like it's right before sort of
like the holiday season. And so like all of these big,
right? Before awards season 2.
Right, right, exactly. So like all of these good titles
are dropping. I'm like, I do not have time.
I do not have time for this. We have so many good ones that

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are coming out too. I'm like, what am I supposed to
do? Hades 2 is hitting one point O
on September 25th on for PC and Nintendo you have Ghosts of Yote
coming out. F is the same day.
Yeah, Oh my God, Silent Hill. FI hadn't even like, Oh my God,
there's just too much. There's too much coming out.
It's good, though, for this reward season.

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Yeah, it's good, especially since ash and iron, like what
did you say before? I said at the Infinity.
I called it a wet fart. I called it a wet fart.
It's a wet fart right now, man. Like, well, at least that's what
that's, that's what what some folks in my community have been
like, Hey, this is like this, atleast on Tuesday.

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It's a blessing in disguise because Imagine of Ash and Iron
hit really hard. So I said this to my community
Tuesday. Imagine of Ash and Iron was like
boom, chefs kiss. But Imagine of Marathon also
hadn't gotten pushed back. Yeah, as well.
So we've had all this stuff, including like wanting to
prioritize marathon, probably, and wanting to prioritize

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destiny at the same time, yeah. Interesting, I need to think
about that. Just all these things.
But I mean to to to get a wet fart in isolation feels.
It just, well, it's, it's that it's that one sound.
It's that one. It's the one where like it's the
fart with the reverb on it. You know exactly the one that
I'm thinking like that I'm talking about like if you did

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not hear that in your mind as soon as I said that there's
something wrong with your mind because it's everywhere.
But no. With their minds or our minds.
We'll see, We'll see, we'll see.No.
My week, My week was pretty good.
Yeah, played. Played a little bit of Destiny

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too, did some helps this morningand then did like played with
you tiddly for for Borderlands 4.
I'm really. For doing that.
Yeah, dude, it was so fun. It's like it was stupid fun.
And shout out to revealing too much and to Birdman 778 for for
coming and hopping in with us and and playing playing

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Borderlands this afternoon. That was really, really fun.
The I this is my second Borderlands that I've played at
launch. This is my third Borderlands
overall. So I played, I played two way
early when I was started streaming because like people
were like, hey, you should play Borderlands 2.

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Like just give that a shot. Loved it.
Absolutely loved it. Borderlands 3 when that came
out, it was like I wanted to love it.
I, I like the vault hunters. The that grouping of vault
hunters are probably some of my favorite from the series.
Zayn being Zayn being my my big one, Amara being my my second,

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probably favorite. But they like I played through
on all those characters and it was it was fun.
Story was a little DLC was probably the best of like in in
that in that game. And then, like, I was a little
worried about Borderlands 4 being maybe more of the same of

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that. And I know that they've talked
extensively about like, we're going back to the roots of the
thing, right? That and that first mission, we,
I won't spoil anything, but the first mission sets the tone for
the game. And it's it is, it is jokey,
yes, but like there's some dead serious undertone to it that I

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was like, all right, yeah. The like this is what we're this
is what we're looking for in Borderlands.
Like it's it is very much like Borderlands 2 vibes and I'm here
for it. Open world's cool.
Yeah, I started with the Siren Vex because that's that seems
like the class to do a Borderlands with.

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It's it's like it's it's it's just best.
It's great, I just saw a build where they were one shooting
bosses using Vex so I'm going tohave to like go through and take
a look. Yeah, but what are they doing on
normal or TVHM? It was it's Chadley.
I don't know it like I just saw the post of him one shooting

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bosses with it. So I was like, all right, let's
let's take a look there. I know like people were loving
Rafa. Yeah, yeah.
So yeah, I'm that'll be in my rotation for some time to come.
I got the clear for so next weekI'll be I'll be streaming Henry

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half head and giving away a codefor that for thanks to the to
the studio Lulu Henry half headsthe game where you're you're
like this little tiny head or like half, you're literally half
of a head. You're the nose, you're the nose
and the eyes. And like the bald spot of a

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head, right? And you're just.
You're just kind of surfing along the ground and then you
hop into things to turn into them to do tasks and what like.
So if you need to make a bed, you need to turn into the sheet
in order to like push it over the mattress or you need to turn
turn into the pillow and move the pillow on top of the
mattress in order to make your bed.

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So it's it's just like a really cute puzzle game.
I've had my eye on it for like ayear.
And when they offered it to me, I was like, yes, yes, I will be
there on day, on day lunch. So yes, that.
Will be 1/2 head. Yes, I will be 1/2 head.
I already am one according to some people on the Internet.
So no bald spot? No bald spot yet?
No. Yeah yeah, seeing my father.

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It's coming for me sooner than. It's coming.
But yeah, man, I like, I didn't get to play a lot of games.
They had IRL stuff happening allweek.
This this month is crazy for work.
And yesterday was a friend's 40th birthday, Went out for
that. And then we went to a bar last

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night that's close to where we live and they were doing like
1/2 halfway to Saint Patty's Daycelebration.
And so all the pints of Guinnesswere like $5.
So Jenny and I go to have have apint and they just happen to be
doing like a competition there called split the G, which is
like a TikTok thing where you drink enough, you like you get a

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full Guinness and you have to drink enough so that you split.
The foam is at the top of the the line on the G and the rest
of the drink is underneath that G That's called split splitting
the G. And I signed Jenny up for it on
a whim. You're still.
You're still. Oh my God.

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No, it's insane. Like there were like 4 I think.
I expected for that story. There were 4 heats that day and
she she like her and somebody else tied for first in that
heat, in that third heat and so she has to come back in two
weeks and do it again do. You know she was a drinker like
that. Like, no.

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Well, see, here's the thing. Like we're not, but she was all
day. Like we went to like a, a, a
Oktoberfest thing earlier in theday and they were holding beer
steins out for like 5 minutes. And she goes, I could have done
that, I could have done that. Like she kept saying stuff like
that. And I was like, all right.

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And so. OK, prove.
It when they prove. It like, I wouldn't have done it
except for like on the list there was only one more line.
Like there was only one more entry into that third heat.
Yeah. And so I was like, oh, Jenny's
going to do this then. And it was like, it was like 9
minutes till. It was 9 minutes till.

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And so I got us beers. I, I bought the beer that she
had to drink for the, the competition and like signed her
name, signed her name up. I came back outside and I go,
hey, champ, you have 9 minutes until Showtime.
I don't know if you need to practice or what, but yeah, she
nailed it. And she got, she got this little
Guinness like insulated cup thathas the Guinness logo across of

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it. Yeah, it's, it's pretty freaking
sweet. So it was just really funny.
Some of the guys were like, how long have you been practicing to
her? Like, and she goes, oh, like I
have it. And they just kind of, they just
kind of looked at her. It's great.
It was fantastic. And I love it.
I love. It so find out nine minutes
before having to do all that then just like destroying

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everyone. I I think that's the way to do
it, though I think the anticipation would make it
worse. I think you just got to be like,
OK, you go, you're going, yeah, here's your beer.
Go. You're going, you're go have.
Fun you're on. Hit it.
Yeah. That's amazing.
So she killed it. It was great.
I. Love it.
I love it. You married a winner.
Look at that. I did.
You know what? I knew that, though.
I already knew that. You're like, I knew.

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I knew she had it in her. So Dusty 2, how like you're you
you leveled up. Let's talk about the wet fart.
OK? So yeah, Tuesday, Tuesday came
with with ash and iron. So Tuesday we got ash and iron.

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We got a Vidoc. We got a Vidoc for Renegade.
We did get a Vidoc, yeah. Yeah, I mean, so which do you
want to talk about first? Do we Do we want to RIP the
Band-Aid off the wet fart? Yeah, I think.
So talk about ash and iron. Yeah, yeah.
So, so we got the reclamation activity on Tuesday.

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We also got like a whole bunch of balancing stuff on Tuesday.
It felt like there it somehow became more stingy on rewards.
I think there's they said. Some on the day, yeah.
Like, yeah, I don't know, thingswere stingy and things were
bugged on the day, Yeah. That at lunch.

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I don't know how they are now, but.
And so like from. What I know this stinkiness is
mainly because of how many modifiers versus before.
There's a lot of modifiers you have to put on now in order to
still get to that BBB plus a score.
A lot of people from what I've been told that have already done
Ultimate do not like it for granted.

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You kind of knew Ultimate was going to be like that version of
the way you had to put all the modifiers on.
But I don't think people expected it to be that big of a
requirement where if you're doing ultimate and you want to
get like a high score, you're probably doing -5060 or 70.
Yeah, yeah. Which is it's hard to convince

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anyone unless you're going to get absolutely showered with
loot that's worth it. To suffer through that, yeah,
that's fair. It's actually also it the
activity. I don't like it.
Like it feels kind of bad. It feels like it feels like
you're put into a patrol. It feels like patrol the
activity and ever I feel like people were comparing it to what

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was that dreadnought activity where you couldn't heal?
Never. The people are comparing it to
the Nether and I'm like, it doesn't feel like that to me.
It feels like patrol the activity.
Like there's not a lot of exploration.
No, not. Like how you can pick the stuff,
the three choices, That's what Ican see.

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Yeah, I mean, I think that we'resaying, oh, there's puzzles,
there's things to figure out. I'm like, no, it feels just kind
of boring and bad. Like it's boring and hard.
So it's like, it's like the worst.
It's the same situation we had with Nether.
Like it feels so like it's a cool environment.
Yeah, we're back in the plague lands.
Yeah, I do love that I. Do, but like, everything's so

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hard, which is fine. The difficulty is fine but like
like everything gets feels like a patrol because it's so slow
paced. Yes.
Like you're doing activity like if you were to like toss into
that area, maybe just that one area and you had like floods of
enemies. Right.
Maybe. Yeah, it doesn't feel like, I

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don't know. Oh my goodness.
Like like an escalation protocolor like, you know, like, like a,
it doesn't feel like a horde mode activity.
It feels very much like you're in a patrol area doing fighting
enemies that are incredibly overlevelled for you.
And then you have one teammate that's like halfway across the
planet and the other one hasn't even accessed the area yet.
And so you're dead and you're like, why am I doing this?

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Yeah, it's not good like it's I.Don't like it?
It's kind of like they were hailing the return of the plague
lands and like I, I think. Would need to be that.
Yeah, when you, when you bring up like when you invoke that
name, when you invoke what that is and what that means in the
Destiny franchise. And then to have it kind of just

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be like and fear like it's it was it kind of let down?
I've played a couple of rounds of it.
It's not my favorite activity. It's probably one that I'll put
put down pretty quickly unless there's like something crazy
that's let's put in there. Yeah, just yeah, I I wanted it

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to be better. The only good thing that you
could say about this, and this does not make me want to play
it, but it is a new activity that is in the portal that you
could can use to level. Yeah.
And we worked. And one of the critiques I made
last week was that the portal was like recycled content with
the exception of of Caldera, right.

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So it's it's recycled content. So it isn't.
It is. It is new.
Yes. But it's absolutely new.
It's new, it's new and you can actually get levels.
I was actually enjoying it for the first little bit.
Like I had one day I played was Tuesday and I chose to like just
sit down and just play. I think I play like 7 hours of

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the reclaim and I learned a lot about it.
Like the loot was not plentiful enough for the time it took,
Right. Clearly I already talked about
the issues where, you know, sometimes people would be AFK
and if you don't hit that littlebutton to teleport, you don't
get teleported forward. Yeah, which causes issues for
the people that are already ahead, correct?

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Yes. I didn't know that.
So like, I went to get my food and I had other people just
running it. I took a little bit longer than
I expected. And I was still in the first
section, and they were at the 3rd.
And I could not go forward. I couldn't go help.
And we wiped because of that because they just didn't have
their third. And I was like, man, if I could
have just teleported with them, who knows?
You know, it would have been fine.

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And then you have the issue of while they don't want to bring
back Siva. Yeah.
And I know, I know, I know. It's an impossible feat, but
bringing back the plague Lands without Siva just doesn't work.
I don't know how else they can say.
It's just unfortunate. In my eyes there is no plague

(29:19):
lands without to seva and even if they do the whole thing we're
like apparently there is. I'm not too sure.
I tried to find it myself because some people said they
found him. There are dead seva bodies in
some of the areas in the corners.
And the fact that you can, even if that's true, I guess, have
you seen them? So like what do you mean by dead

(29:41):
sieve of bodies? Like I've seen tendrils like
just grayed out tendrils that look.
Like apparently have been told to me that I only spent one day,
that there's a bunch of dead bodies in the plague lands.
But there are some that if you know what a sieve looks like,
you can tell that that was a sieve that was like, you know,
dead from when we closed off theplaylands.
But you can tell, like, that asset.

(30:03):
Yeah. In some way, shape or form.
I haven't seen it so I can't confirm it right, but there
would apparently be depending onlike which version you pick in
the play glance you can go off off to the side and you can see
a splicer Siva like that versionfrom like RAF and all that.
I don't know. But regardless if there were

(30:27):
Siva in this instantly makes it better and I know they can't do
it but I would have preferred for for play Lance and that
would turn out without Seva. Yeah, like I get why they.
Would because it's a cool area, but.
Yeah, I get why they would get rid of Seva because it's the do
everything button and but like, yeah, it's just yeah, yeah, like

(30:53):
that that part of it bugged me alittle bit, something that one
of my friends from from the community or from my community
brought up Madelat. So with Ash and I.
So Matt purchased Edge of Fate by itself as a stand alone DLC

(31:14):
and didn't purchase the full year when.
So they've earned a bunch of bonuses to activities, a bunch
of things that they were able touse during the first part of
Edge of Fate that now with Ash and iron, they are locked out of
the the paid portion of the of the game of the rewards track.

(31:43):
They just get the free track, not the paid rewards track.
Even though they purchased the this the DLC and they don't have
access to their bonuses anymore,which is which is annoying.
Like if I would get it if that was like.
Is there any fine print anywherethat like says this update

(32:03):
technically is an edge of fate? That I don't know.
I would like. It's such an interesting thing.
Like why would you do that though like that?
Because I thought there was no like new expansion or whatever
you want to call it until Renegades.
Right, exactly so like that's what I would was thinking and
what what I'm going to do is I'mgoing to share.
I'm probably going to edit this into the videos just to

(32:24):
highlight what this looks like, but they are completely locked
out. They don't they that's crazy.
They didn't get the new pulse rifle at 1 nothing.
It's just like they're they're locked out.
I like like I said, I could see it if it were like Renegades
coming up. You didn't buy the the track for

(32:45):
for Renegades. You don't get it, but like.
I say, I think people would know.
Like you wouldn't know, I didn'tget that expansion, whatever.
But like this is something that I wouldn't be surprised if
people didn't expect. Like how did you purchase this
anyway? Yeah.
And yeah, it's just, it's, it's just a very confusing thing.

(33:09):
And so, yeah, if if you've if you've encountered this or you
know somebody who has encountered this, you know,
like, right, you can comment on our Spotify and our YouTube
channel with this kind of stuff.And yeah, just let us know
because that's it's concerning and weird that.
They How much silver would this cost?

(33:31):
Did he tell you that? No, he has it.
Matt's in chat right now, so he might be able to.
Because this thing is $10 which I'm thinking like is generally
some of the stuff. It's 1000 silver, is what Matt
says. Yeah.
So $10 that's. Yeah.
And it that just seems steep like it to.

(33:52):
Otherwise this is a free update.Yeah, I'm saying to to dip in
like this. It's weird.
Like it's weird to double dip like this and.
Basically, this is absolutely. Yeah, yeah.
Or by the upgrade to the Ultimate Edition, which is on
sale. Yeah, that's.
But how much is that? Yeah, Matt, Matt kid.

(34:18):
I think the problem with this has always been someone asked me
about this right before as far as like how Bungie has always
had an issue with segmenting content and purchasable content
and making it be very clear likeyou, but you spend this money,

(34:40):
you get this content for this amount of time.
And I've always said this is speaking from a total position
of privilege, that it always makes more sense, unfortunately
for me to just purchase a year expansion and just not have to
deal with it. Right.
Yeah. Now I understand that I'm

(35:01):
probably going to be just I knowI'm going to be playing it
throughout the year. So it's a no brainer because I
know Bungie has a history of notbeing able to make it just point
blank clear what you're purchasing with an expansion and
year after year, year after year, even when you have free

(35:22):
updates. Like it doesn't make sense.
Like this rewards pack should have to be a part of anyone that
owns edge of fate and it is. It's it's mind blowing that
you're probably going to have a lot of people having to shell
out an extra 1000 silver when they weren't expecting it.

(35:42):
When they weren't expecting it. Yes, because we all look at this
ash and iron as a free update and they pushed it as a free
update. They did, yeah.
Which is probably the issue is that they pushed it as a free
update. So if someone that purchased
Edge of Faith because they wanted to purchase Edge of Faith
because they wanted to be a partof the game for Edge of Faith,

(36:04):
they don't know if they want to play Renegades.
They want to, you know, a lot ofpeople don't purchase over the
year outside of us that are probably going to play it
throughout the year. So it just doesn't make sense.
I feel like if there's anything that should be a higher talking
point is this, which is just interesting that I didn't even

(36:25):
hear anything about it until like I would have thought the
Iron Man of armor being a big talking point, the Stern being a
big talking point and all the other issues with Ashton Iron.
I would have thought the financial one would have been a
bigger talking point right now. Yeah.
And that's super like, that's probably how they're going to
get away with this. I don't want to say they're
getting away with it, but that'sprobably how it's not going to

(36:46):
be as big of a talking point. But if this happens now, this is
going to happen in Renegades. Yeah, or I guess unless people
call it out, unless there's. Not people call it out, yes.
Yeah. And so, yeah, it's.
I usually stay with Pixie in thesense of like making it, I feel

(37:07):
like we talked, as I've said this last week, making it very
easy for someone to know what they're purchasing.
And then when they when that expiration date of content is.
Yeah. And the only time that's super
easy is when they give you the big Humble Bundle package or you
just purchase the yearly expansion, including everything.

(37:28):
It just doesn't make sense why they don't want to make it super
easy for a player to know. This is all the stuff I get for
my money. Right.
And you have to, like, kind of boot up and just hope and pray
that you are still, you know, you're still up to snuff with
everyone else. That's so unfortunate, man.

(37:48):
Yeah, it's, it's just unfortunate and and just a weird
thing that that happened and I hope it.
Gets and they wouldn't see it because we already have like the
right the most of us have like the seasonal stuff I already
added. So yeah.
And like here's another like we get that for free.
Like, yeah, everybody in this call right now got a copy of of
Edge of Fate, the your prophecy for free.

(38:09):
So like, we wouldn't know unlesssomebody from our community came
and talked to us about. This.
Yeah. I'm glad they told us, yeah.
Yeah, it's just, it's so weird. It's just so weird.
The only way for them to solve that is to purchase the extra
silver, right? Yeah, that's the only way of
getting it. Yeah, shell out an extra 10
bucks so that it doesn't seem right.

(38:30):
It's weird. So outside of that, we have the
axe. We here in the next couple weeks
we have the axe dungeon. Like the dungeon that gives us
the axe, right? Yeah, the the actual acts as a
weapon for a change, Yeah. That's so exciting.

(38:51):
So yeah, like, that'll that'll be cool.
What else? So it says Iron Banner will be
back next week and the armor apparently has good set bonuses
to pair with wolfsbane. What was the what was the
controversy? With the Brainer banner, one
question about the exotic. Sure.

(39:12):
Now that I look at this, if someone doesn't have the rewards
pass, can they also not do that exotic mission?
Dude, oh man, I would be so upset if I oh man.
Because this is technically free, you know, free expansion.

(39:34):
This is all included. But like, now that I look at
that, I'm like, wait a minute, this exotic mission coming is
probably tied to you owning the rewards pass.
Kaylor says no. They said it was a free, free
update, so I hope it's included.I really hope it's included

(39:55):
because otherwise it's just morebad news on top of bad news
that. They say that this was the
exotic pulse was a free yeah. Conclusion.
You know, I'm just, I'm, I'm just putting out there something
I thought about just, yeah, hopefully you're right.
Yeah, the the exotic pulse rifle, at least you can get that
on like I think it's 30 on the free rewards track.

(40:16):
Yeah, it's like 3035. Yeah, yeah.
It's like you can at least get it.
It's just like you don't get it day one.
I think he's more upset about the bonuses that he's already
earned on the previous track lapsing over.
Like, it's just yeah, like, and it like he's trying to do that
power grind right now. Yeah.

(40:38):
So like. You know.
Yeah. I'm willing to wait and see.
Yeah, yeah, I just. Wish we had a very
straightforward answer for what is included and what isn't and.
Yeah. Because how do we throw our
community like we don't know? Yeah, we don't know.

(41:03):
So with this, we're also gettingan event toward the end called
Call to Arms that will go live with Debrum in the tower with a
focus on the weapon foundries tostress test the latest and
greatest gear they've produced. There's a competitive aspect to
this event as well with some cosmetics for players at the top
to earn like a helmet ornament with a Mohawk, tail of flames,

(41:24):
the there's exotic ornaments to earn as well as rewards to help
with the Season 2. We are taking this from the
Reddit rundown of the Ash and Iron.
Ash and Iron in Renegades view, part of the Vidoc thing.
There's also a new stasis crossbow available through a low
drop chance of any of the vents above, including this week.

(41:48):
And then in Call the Arms there will be the option to focus for
it. Have we?
Have either of you had the crossbow drop that?
The stasis is going to drop for.Me for like 4 or five people,
but. I haven't got it myself.
Well, that's one day. But yeah, that's cool.
It's chill clip. That's what people like.
But it's I think it's use case is probably that not going to be

(42:13):
as high because of temporal blast being gone.
But it could be neat for like stasis slash prismatic stuff.
But I'm just going to wait for call to arms just or arms week
or whatever and just focus it then.
Popocopium in chat says that they have received 2IN that it's

(42:33):
pretty nice and strong. Oh, nice.
Good. To know.
So with that have have you guys,I guess there's like a new
interaction or in some sort of bug with Sturman Drang or just
with Drang? Yes.
And one punching everything. Yeah, yeah, I've heard about it.

(42:53):
I haven't used it but it I'm guessing it's going to be
patched if they haven't like plant I'm I'm sure.
I know it's patched in trials right now or disabled.
Yeah, yeah, they disabled sermontrials I think, but I think you
have to equip both and then and then you then for some reason it
makes melees really, really strong.
So people are pairing it with Strand builds, strand melee
builds and one shotting stuff inhigh level activities.

(43:16):
So yeah, but yeah, I haven't tried it yet.
Everyone's like, have you heard about this one?
I'm like, oh, I've been to this one yet.
I just, I'm, I'm like, I could set something up.
I'm like, it doesn't seem like it's that hard to set up.
You just attach it to a strand and then equip it and go.
But I was like, they're nerfing,they're going to.
Yeah, if it's going to be gone in a week, what's the worst?

(43:36):
It's going to be gone. Yeah, it's going to be gone.
I think the only reason someone should probably mess around with
it and I told someone this Tuesday is if there's any I if
there's any hard content you need to get done.
Just want to start real quick. It's like how when we had the
craft inning and like we were able to use like auto rifle that

(43:58):
shot shotgun shots, I was like, you know, if you is this a solo
flaws you're missing, just go ahead and do that real quick.
You know, who cares? Other than that, yeah.
I'm not mad. Get your loot.
Yeah, yeah, No, it sounds, it sounds.
It sounds really fun. It sounds like really fun.
I haven't tried it though, but II have heard about it as soon as
I logged into Destiny. This like, I feel like.

(44:20):
Have you tried this? It's so good.
Yeah. Yeah, that's awesome.
I'm glad you guys are having funwith it.
Have fun with it while you can. Yeah.
While you can. As well.
While you can go ahead and have fun with it.
Exactly. Shall we hop into the Renegades
of it all? Where?
All the good stuff is hitting that.

(44:41):
Like seriously, I like I watched, I watched the viaduct
twice on Tuesday. Like I watched the full thing.
I watched it when it aired and then I watched it later on
stream. And it's it's one of those
situations and it's weird to feel this or that.
Like it's, we've had this kind of feeling a couple of times in
Destiny now where like it's all the, oh, the next iteration of

(45:06):
The thing is going to be the best iteration of the thing or
like it's going to be better than the iteration that we were
given. And they, and so I'm right now
I'm looking forward to December,but it's like early September.
So like. Yeah, I know.
It's, it's, it's tough really tobe like super, super excited

(45:29):
right now and wish that I was like three months ahead of time
or like. I wish you in December right
now. Yeah, yeah.
So. You know, I mean, there are more
things attached to ash and iron.I think that like the wet fart
situation is just really becausethey this first.
Week. This with reclaim and reclaim is
is kind of a womp womp, but I mean the exotic mission could be

(45:54):
really fun. The dungeon lairs.
I know people are excited about that and and then in particular
the epic version of the desert perpetual launching is really
exciting next week ahead on the.27th yeah, 27th.
OK. They pushed back.
OK. They did push it back a week, so
I think that if they had released ash and iron with maybe
one of these attached to it, it would have felt a like less of a

(46:18):
let down. Yeah.
I don't think reclaim was enoughto be like because I I mean, my
friend was. Like this, Madam?
Let's play the new let's play the new content the day it comes
out. And then it was like this one
activity and he's like, OK, backto playing other games.
You know, it's like I. Think it would have been better
if we didn't have they didn't show rent.
Yeah. I think it would have helped

(46:39):
because like Renegades was a really, they showed really,
really good for Renegades. But then all the stuff that
people are excited for, it's like, well, it'll be out in
three months. In three months you can yeah.
So, so I to Full disclosure, I didn't watch the the Renegades
reveal. So but it sounds like it was

(47:00):
excellent. Like, everyone's really excited
about it. Like, yeah.
Renegades looks awesome. It looks unique, looks super
different, but it also looks like I'm not explaining because
I don't want to over hype it, but I the entire time I I went
in with super low expectations and I was like, OK, I can get on

(47:20):
board with this. I can get on board with this.
This looks unique. There wasn't a single thing from
what I saw that I was like. Yeah.
All that was unfortunate with Ash and Irons content.
Yeah, for me personally, and I was like, yeah, OK.
Yeah, so Renegades is obviously the Star Wars focused season.

(47:45):
We're going to have like a few reading from this Renegades is
Spider by Star Wars in collaboration with Lucasfilm
Games, which is crazy story willhave a bunch of missions in the
lawless frontier, which I keep forgetting that this isn't just
a season, it is a full expansion.
So we're going to be having. A campaign.
Like a whole campaign, yeah. I'm stoked on that.
Like I keep, I kept forgetting that in the lead up and then I'm

(48:07):
like, oh, we get another can. Like we get a full campaign.
Yeah. Yeah.
So also introducing you to the jobs to complete an addition to
The Maine missions, letting you climb the ranks of the
Underworld Cabal elects the Vex criminal syndicates.
The Vex wearing the shirt were was hilarious.
You you are able to gain their trust and help to combat the new

(48:31):
Barrett Imperium Cabal enemy. Within the campaign, you will be
introduced to the new Renegades abilities which have unlocks and
upgrades. There's a ritual for dealing
with contested territory. You'll be able to target the the
syndicate you want to take down.So like you can kind of push and
pull again against like different, different factions

(48:54):
there Within the turf war, you choose which syndicate you want
to pledge to in order to unlock more abilities and wider advance
upgrades. Depending on which you choose,
there will be other bonuses weekly shipments in the
underground hub to take advantage of.
So that seem that seems pretty neat.
It kind of feels like something that we might have been able to

(49:15):
have sooner with, with actual factions in the tower, like the
the factions. Yeah, we used to have factions.
Yeah, when I was reading that, that's exactly what I thought.
I was like, is this, are we going back to the the factions?
But I mean, a lot of people liked that.
Yeah. Yeah.
So it's like, it's like basically.
That like star? Wars, addiction, yeah, people do
like that. I think that like there's.

(49:35):
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so you'll unlock 9 new
abilities plus 7 upgrades for offensive, defensive support in
vehicles. Abilities include airstrikes,
Cabal drop pods, which we control.
Of course Farnsworth is in charge of making more Cabal,

(49:55):
Cabal drop pods. Of course he's he's the one who
like brought them into the game and he was featured prominently
in the Vidoc when they were talking about that.
So I was like, this makes perfect sense.
There's going to be an ATATAT Walker essentially.
There's going to be interceptorsof swoop bags and turrets.

(50:18):
Abilities are separate from yoursubclass and do not override any
of your existing abilities, which is important to note.
There's a new space called the Tharsis Outpost which is a new
hub on Mars in A and which is a black market for the criminal
underworld gone unnoticed by theVanguard.
Inspired by Moss Isley in a perfect place for unsavory jobs.

(50:43):
So with the factions we have theTotality Division Cabal which
are a subset of the Barrett Imperium run by the Scions.
Piker Elixny atheist or anarchist biker gang who follow
relics instead of the machines and Tharsis Reformation Vex who
are vex that have broken away from Maya who are who are now

(51:03):
wearing clothes and. Think wearing clothes, doing
crime. Beginning to think what it means
to be individuals. We are.
We're going to be fighting against the Barent Imperium
Cabal, which look exactly like it looks so cool.
Yeah. Yeah.
Like, well, they look like stormtroopers, like they have
that like shiny white plated armor dredging.

(51:27):
So we also are going to be introduced to the Praxic order
during the campaign, which that looks neat.
And we've had several things, several things pointing to the
Praxic Order in in Destiny 2, but I think this is the first
time that we're seeing somebody from it we've.
Had exotics, we've had weapons that had like in the flavour

(51:50):
checks talking about the Praxic Order of the Praxic Fire and all
that. So it's pretty cool.
Yeah, so hold on. Yeah, Oracle brings up brings up
a thing. Please, please have a cantina
like theme on on loop. So if do you guys know what the

(52:11):
what the music is called in StarWars that they're playing in the
cantina scene? Which one?
Yeah, I don't know. It's called the That was
Beautiful canteen thing. It's called jizz Jazz.
No, yeah. So wow.
Sign me up. All.

(52:33):
Right. I love me some jazz, yeah.
It's an educational episode tonight, guys.
Yeah. Very educational episode.
Educational. Look it up.
Look it up. It's it's out there.
I think. I think there's a video.
Current name for something no. It's not George Lucas said it
like with the whole chest duringan interview one time.

(52:55):
Yeah, there's. Got to be clipped there.
It's that a Destiny clan or jeez.
So anyways, moving on, we get anactivity called the Lawless
Frontier, which is like an extraction shooter bit added
into Destiny where you can. I like what I liked about this

(53:18):
is that like so you can decide to play with your friends and go
for rewards if you don't want tobe invaded yeah, people are
saying that hell divers like if you don't want to be invaded,
you don't have to be invaded, but if you would, you get better
rewards and also somebody somebody is opting in to invade

(53:38):
on the opposite side too. So it's it's a mixture of gambit
without it really being a competitive thing, which is kind
of nice. I I like looking at some of the
menus that they had on the screen.
I'm wondering if this is like a soft test for for marathon.

(54:01):
I felt the same thing. There was a lot of it.
I was like, this feels all the menus, all the menus really
everything they showed in Renegades felt different.
Yeah, I don't know. That was just it felt like they
were trying new things on how they like present content and
screens to the player. Yeah, it felt very much like

(54:24):
like they were, they were might be testing some things for for
Marathon in Destiny and maybe some loops or something before
that comes out. I mean this is an extraction
like activities, so you know it could be.
Yeah, that was that was just interesting to see and something

(54:46):
that I put together. It's purely anecdotal, like I
have no idea, like no other bases other than like, hey, that
screen kind of looked the same. So that was that was
interesting. The three locations for the
lawless frontier are going to beVenus will have swamps like
Dagobah. We have Europa, which is like

(55:07):
Hoth, and then we have Mars, which is like Tatooine.
So we're going to have three of those three of those maps there.
We are getting a new dungeon which looks like that.
It takes part. It takes place in some sort of
wait was it that one? No no no I think I'm getting
that confused. Never mind they didn't show any

(55:27):
of the dungeon but we are getting a a dungeon that will
unlock a job off world that takes us to the dungeon.
We are receiving some weapons sowe get 3 blasters or some some
blasters shown. The one that they highlighted
was the one that looked a lot like Han Solo's, which I believe

(55:48):
the the, the assistant director called like we have, it's left
me now. It's left me now.
But like you have to charge it up and, and fire it.
It's not just like a straight uplike just firing your shots.
You have to charge and then release the bolt, which is kind.
Of sounds satisfying. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

(56:08):
It, like all of the Star Wars sounds in this, are going to.
Be off. They did a really good job
pulling them into this game, Yeah.
We'll be getting a Destiny lightsaber in the Praxic Blade,
so the blade is highly customizable in both gameplay
and visuals, with parts, components to discover in the
lawless frontier turf war and dungeon to make it your own.

(56:33):
They said it feels exotic. It does things no other weapon
and Destiny is capable of. Yeah, we get the Cabal Walker
about quality of life changes. I like, I think this is like
probably some of the biggest stuff that they were they talked
about like all of that is just like is is the nice like window

(56:53):
dressing. But I think this is the meat of
what's going to be best about Renegades is so power climate,
improved rewards. So Renegade's lawless frontier
jobs will be part of the power climb.
Desert Perpetual Raid and Renegade's Dungeon will be more
dependable sources of power withweekly challenges and encounter

(57:14):
power drops. These these will be at
additional to what we have now. Desert Perpetual Epic Raid and
Renegade's Dungeon will have alltheir drops be tier 3 at base.
So no more getting tier ones andtier twos from from the Desert
Perpetual Epic Epic Raid. They're adding more challenge.
Adding more challenge will drop tier fours and fives.

(57:36):
Renegades. The baselines for rewards will
be brought up to the level of solo OPS experience and
incentivize playing in fire teams.
More bonus engrams will be a constant way to accelerate the
power climb with Renegades. There is going to be new weekly
ritual and portal variety. They mentioned Vanguard orders
will be objectives that you can complete without having a pick

(57:57):
up without having to pick up bounties in the portal to
increase variety. Completing orders has a chance
to roll legendary and exotic orders with legendary exotic
rewards which is something that they pointed to from back in
Destiny one. Like we used to have like more
legendary styles of of bounties.Conquest will become repeatable.

(58:18):
I believe they are repeatable now.
You can go and do the ones that you've unlocked so far.
It's just you will not receive the rewards and but with this
one with Renegades, they said there will be a weekly reward to
earn from them, moving them closer to Grandmaster Nightfall
feeling. Renegades will feature weekly
legacy raid and dungeon challenges for powerful rewards.

(58:40):
They will not yet feature raid gear as tiered loot, though.
Bungie knows that that's wanted,but it takes more time than you
would think to make that happen.Hey, that's a step in the right
direction at least like to to atleast like say hey, play this
old stuff that we made over the past 10 years.

(59:01):
So build crafting and gear chaseall exotic weapons and gear will
count as featured gear and Renegades.
We did it, folks. We did it.
We complained enough. We complained enough in Shadow
and Order. The major update after Renegades
will be able to enhance the tierof legendary weapons all the way
from Tier 1 to tier 5 with a newfeature currency.

(59:23):
That's a great change. Renegades will increase vault
space, but there will be improvements on sorting
filtering in vault. In Game 2, the featured gear
score bonus for portal activities will be removed as
it's seen as a level of complexity not needed.
The Bungie is upgrading their internal processes for how they

(59:44):
evaluate their buff and nerf policies and the timing of those
things. Starting with Renegade's launch.
Non critical balance changes areon pause, giving Bungie more
time for how they approach it and to better communicate on why
why they're making a change or buffer nerf and their
intentions. So changes being reverted
including the Grand Overture, Queen Breaker, Stronghold and

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Chromatic fire buffs and nerfs. Or nerfs.
Buffs to subclasses are coming and notes will be soon.
I believe we started seeing someof that this week in the Twid.
I think all of that's just solid.
That is. Yeah, that's really good.
Some really good changes coming along the way, yeah.
I am worried about one thing andthat is the pausing of balance

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patches. OK, totality is a good thing,
but because they say non critical, what was the other
word? Non critical, whatever that was.
Yeah, non critical, non criticalbalance changes.

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Yeah, when I first read that, myquestion to them, I would have
liked an example of what they consider a non or at least a
critical thing that they had to like instantly hatch.
Because say, I don't know, say something like say Stern happens

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in Renegades. Is that something that's
critical enough for them to prioritize?
Or would it not be say like, I'mjust curious cuz I, I, I can see
now in the next four or five months when we get the
lightsaber, when we get like these, these buffs to
subclasses, when we get new artifacts stuff.

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What are, what are we going? What is, what's the baseline?
Yeah, that's all. I wish they would tell us.
We'll find out soon when something comes and we, we were
like, oh, they're going to nerf this and they don't, or we like,
oh, they're going to touch. They're not going to nerf this
and then they touch it. I'm really curious.
Like that's the only thing I'm like, since we don't, since they
are going to pause it and we have no timetable for how long

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they're going to pause it, I'm curious what's going to be that
like line that they think will not be crossed?
Yeah. And what thing will come out
that when they do prioritize it,we're like, OK, well, as long as
it's not this, we're fine, you know?
Right. Yeah.
So that's going to be really interesting.

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I'm almost wondering if it's like if it's something like SERM
where it's like game breaking where like it's doing an
unintended amount of damage. Even the temporal blast crossbow
last season under these parameters, that probably means
that that doesn't get touched, is what I'm saying.

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Yeah, maybe it's not critical. Yeah, I like, I think it was if
it's game breaking, especially around a time where they're
going to be like if something pops up before the dungeon race.
That's something that contest isdone, you know.
Yeah, because that's a marketingevent that that highlights what
what they're what they do. So like they're probably going

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to smash things around that timewhen if it if like Telesto pops
up out of nowhere, which good job Telesto on not breaking the
game in over a year. I saw that recently on It's
Been. How many?
Days since it's been like 300 and like 60 some days since
because. Other Weapons has chosen to take

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on its life and do Yeah, yeah, right.
It's haunted other other spaces,but the but like if it's
something like that where I feellike that is then critical,
yeah, like probably something that they would consider
critical as. Well, that's all.
I wish they would, like have said, like just a little
parentheses, just saying, for example, X or something.

(01:03:50):
Yeah, just so I knew like a little like, OK, that's gonna be
interesting, right? Yeah, like, like I'm excited for
December. I wish I was excited for
tomorrow index the next. She was December.
Now you know. That's OK, there's other games
to be excited about. Exactly this is what I say
because exactly. Kind of good, yeah, really good

(01:04:12):
Waste anytime playing Destiny because I could play all these
other games from September and October, play the game of the
year nominees and then be right into.
Oh, that's a tradition for you, right?
And you play all of them so thatwhen you watch it with your
community, then you have a better sense.
So what do you think for this year?
Like what are the? What do you think?

(01:04:33):
What is looking good in terms of?
The only one I probably should go back and play sooner or later
is I think we might try to squeeze in blueprints.
Yeah. OK, cuz I've started, I've
started like making my list and I've played everything that I
think will be there with the exception of Blueprints and
Kingdom Come Deliverance. That seems to be a big one that

(01:04:53):
people keep talking about is Kingdom Come Deliverance.
Yeah, that one never interested me, but I know that's.
Interesting. On the like, yeah, that's on.
There and then a couple of thoseSwitch games like Donkey Kong
and something else that came outrecently that was kind of like
family game. So other than that, I'm kind of
set. And of course, Ghost.

(01:05:13):
Yeah, Yeah. Yes, Ghost, Yeah.
Ghost VOT Yeah, yeah, man. So that was pretty much
everything from Renegades. And then we talked about Ash and
Iron already on Thursday. They talked about receiving like
receiving notice, notices that things weren't dropping

(01:05:35):
appropriately. So they they went ahead and
pushed a a live update. They said it wasn't dropping,
but I went back when I was in the airport.
I had plenty of time. I went back and looked at some
of the old Twabs and either theymade a mistake or they're trying

(01:05:57):
to sweep it under the rug as faras like what we were expecting
to get versus what we're gettingnow.
Because if I'm not mistaken, I think 4:51 and that was supposed
to be getting plus twos and 400 to 450 or 300 or something like
that. You're probably not getting at

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the baseline plus threes, Yeah, to speed up people catching up
into the threes and fours and fives.
Yeah. But it seems that they either
have changed that or are just going to make everything a flat
+2 across the board. I thought they were adding plus

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threes. So taking a look at this SO live
update, First off, climbing from4:50 to 500 needs to be better.
In fact, we want to make the thepower climb better in general.
So we're not solely focused on the 4:50 to 500 band, but also
want to target how players move up from 300 all the way to 500

(01:06:58):
in a way that feels better to play through the upcoming
upcoming LOP, which is a new feature, a new term that they've
introduced the community to is just a first step.
This will help smooth out the journey from 400 to 500 and help
put players within striking distance of earning tier fives.
After this, our priorities will be on the the bands below 400 to

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help players feel constant progress towards in game power
bands. So for platinum that's 450 to
500 power. A+ grades now grant +2 A grades
now grant 2B plus grades now grant A plus 1B.
Grades now grant A + 1. C grades will now grant gear at
your power level for gold, whichis 400 to 450 power.

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B Grad B grades now grant plus one power, C Plus grades now
grant gear at your power level, and Silver C plus will now grant
plus one power. So that's from the 300 to 400
band. On top of these changes, we will
also need to fix scores requiredto earn the associated grades.
The below changes will relieve the pressure on getting higher

(01:08:05):
higher scores by requiring fewermodifiers and therefore lower
the power delta needed to get anA grade.
So the the LUP scoring changes, they reduced the number of
modifiers needed to reach score forecasts.
Note how much this helps with with your score forecast depends

(01:08:26):
on where you are in your power climb.
And then granting everyone the featured gear score bonus by
default. So that's a that's a good change
like featured gear score. Cool, we'll post on the D2 team
accounts when it's live. I believe it went live on
Thursday night. We are targeting to ship this by
the end of the week, but may need to delay depending on

(01:08:48):
validation efforts. As mentioned, the lump is the
first step. It will not get us to a place we
want to be yet, but this should be a good kick off in the right
direction. Next week for September 16th we
get patched 9.1 point O .1. They're making changes of Prime
Ingrams where all power bands players will have a chance for a

(01:09:10):
Prime Ingram drop per portal activity completion reward.
And from 4:50 to 500 power increased up to +3 power, which
it was the +2. I think this is where you might
have gotten that plus 3 from. And they talk about like how
many rewards are are going to bereceived from different

(01:09:30):
activities. The highest numbers here we have
Onslaught Widow's Court getting 5 rewards, Onslaught Midtown
getting four and Coyle getting 4.
Contest of Elders will get 4 as well.
They're just kind of bumping those up like 1-1 at a time.
Yeah, man, the amount of time that is required to do all of

(01:09:51):
those. I still think it needs to be
like double that, just pick up the time.
And I know and I, I know that they are worried about the
people who are going to speed it, but like, come on.
Yeah. Like it's I'm never going to do
those activities just because ofthe time.

(01:10:13):
Like make them seven, drop 10 drop 10 rewards.
I would much like, I would personally prefer to do like
onsite or something and get like7 to 10 plus twos and plus
threes and some plus ones like however you want to stagger
those amounts. Yeah, but like no one's ever

(01:10:33):
going to engage with it. The only, the only thing that I
could see them saying is like, hey, no, we don't want to do
that is because like with the conquests coming around and
being repeatable, maybe those drop as much gear as they did
initially, which is like, I believe that they dropped five
pieces of gear. Is that correct?

(01:10:53):
It was. It was like.
Three and specific slots. Maybe it was just a grand match
to one. Yeah I know people were like
saving their grand matches because they were going to get 3
items all like plus threes and certain slots.
But yeah, it's just like it's inthe right direction.
They're giving us more loot. It's better.

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When when compared to a game like Borderlands 4 that just
came out which is the granddaddyof them all.
Like dude, I'm getting somethingnew all the time.
All the time. And like just swapping stuff out
and trying new things and getting a feel for those weapons
and it feels good. It's a much different game than

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Destiny, but it's one of those things where it's like, dude,
like I'm just like my, I'm constantly getting that loot and
my dopamine's hitting when when I see a purple or even like I've
seen a couple of yellows now, guys.
That's the crazy part about a Luda shooter, right?
Like one reason people like to play Luda shooters is is for the

(01:11:59):
loot. Yeah.
Equally as much as the shooting.So like it's I understand Bungie
has a very very tough time balancing around different
players. I get it.
But when you have a Luda shooterand the the looting is sometimes
still stingy, it's not a good thing.

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It's just the tough part. Yeah, it's a bungee if you do
right by by Onslaught and make it 10 drops.
You know what? Why stop there at 20?
Just start. Just start cranking it up, you
know? I mean, considering, considering
when you do Onslaught A-Team wipe just constantly kicks you
out of it and you get nothing, Ithink it's worth maybe a little

(01:12:47):
bit more than 4. Yeah, we really have extinguish
on. So yeah.
They also say here that finally we've been hearing feedback that
Reclaimer Awards feel under tuned.
We're looking into into this along with reports about other
timers that may need adjustment as our planned LUP goes into

(01:13:08):
effect. They've said it so many times
during this. Lup they're trying to make.
They're really they're making, man.
Yeah, it. Goes into effect and the
additional improvements go live next week.
We will continue to monitor feedback and make adjustments.
Yeah, I think the only other bignotable thing from this TWID was
the the future sandbox tuning that they that they talk about

(01:13:32):
here. Our folks at the Sandbox team
are working hard on some new tuning for all three classes,
several subclasses, and a bunch of abilities.
Their goal is to implement thesewith 9 point 1.5 coming on
October 7th. Some of them you already knew
about, others are new. Check them out below.

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So we have Warlock getting a newpassive trait with a 10% bonus
to passive grenade energy regeneration, 5% additional
additive bonus to grenade damage.
I believe that that's to like make it so that they are that's
more their identity, like they're.
Kind of focusing back. The following warlock constructs

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now count as grenades for Strat for stats and perks.
The Ionic sentry, the Hellion, the Bleak Watcher, the Child of
the Old Gods, and Ark Soul Void Chaos Accelerant now grants 2
grenade charges. Scatter grenades.
Charged Grenade now creates fourmore seekers.
Increased charged Seeker damage versus combatants by 25%.
Improved Charge Seeker tracking versus combatants and increased

(01:14:38):
Charge Seeker lifetime with Axion Bolts.
Charged Grenades now detonates twice.
Increased charged particle or projectile damage versus
combatants by 25%. Reduced projectile speed when
tracking enemy players by 40. Vortex Grenade now repeatedly
pulls enemies into it when Charged Pull against players is

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reduced over time. Spike Grenades now charges into
Handheld Supernova. Suppressor grenade now change
charges into handheld supernova and Voidwall grenade Also
charging into handheld supernovaStasis with Glacial Harvest
Stasis Shard creation no longer has a cool down in Pve.
It feels like huge. Yeah, they're huge.

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They're making your abilities more powerful in war like you
keep. 'Cause we need them stronger.
Abilities. Yeah yeah, yeah, exactly right.
Moving on to Titan. So Stasis with Howled the Storm
now grants 2 melee charges. Changed Stasis crystal spawn

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pattern and added four more crystals.
Now slows enemy players instead of freezing them.
Cryoclasm increased fragment slots from 2:00 to 3:00.
Reduced Long slide cool down from 4 seconds to two seconds.
Tectonic Harvest Stasis Shard creation no longer has a cool
down in Pve. Void the unbreakable so reduce

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grenade energy drain speed when holding shield, reduce forward
movement, slow down when the shield is hit by an attack.
The increased fragment slots from two to three blast now
disorients enemies for a short time with Bastion.
No longer increases cool down time in Pve.

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Hunters new passive trait. Increased passive movement speed
bonus. This is now equivalent to the
old tier 10 mobility. Increased hunter default Sprint
speed from 8 meters to 8.6 meters per second.
Hunters now have 10% bonus to equip weapon speed or to weapon
equip speed. This like hunters just sound

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really dumb. General Marksman's dodge now
picks up an A nearby Ammo brickson activation now reloads all
weapons on activation. For Strand.
Suspending Slam no longer increases cooldown duration
after use. Suspending enemies with
Suspending Slam now gives Woven Male duration scales with number
of enemies suspended. Threat Inspector increased

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fragment slots from 2:00 to 3:00on Solar.
For On Your Mark, they rescaled stack count to a maximum of 10
stacks with precision hits giving one stack precision final
blows. Giving two final blows on 10
stacks Cure the player Precisionfinal blows at 10 stacks no
longer give radiant stacks On Your mark now give Warrants or

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weapons stats. So Max's 50 weapons stat at 10
stacks still grants previous reload benefit.
Golden Gun Deadshot refunds ammoto Golden Gun final blows
instead of on ignitions now extends super duration and final
blows. Energy dismisses with final
blows so gains reduced in PvP. The final thing here Stasis,

(01:18:05):
grim stasis is grim harvest. The stasis Shard creation no
longer has a cool down in PBE sothere's some like big shifts
there on class identity at least.
Like to at least make them so that they have an identity.
Moving. Those cool downs are huge.
Yeah, that's going to that's going to be nutty.

(01:18:27):
I want to see what that what that means for in in gaming
challenges specifically for someof these things.
Titan not getting nearly as muchlove in the in that department
of like, hey, here's your identity back.
Do they need it though? Well, as somebody who's forced

(01:18:48):
to be a Titan man, I'm going to say yes, Dan.
You literally have the strongestmelee and grenade right now.
I want a little bit more. With the Yeah, well.
If we if we could get with the. Exception of like the the
grapple hunter stuff, it's Titans have been the play for at
least this edge of eight. As it should be before, yes.

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OK. All right.
Yeah. Yeah, the only thing I will
agree with is that it would havebeen funny that it would have
been funny if they reverted the prismatic and the prismatic
slots, because I know that they're the only ones that now
have like a lot of less slots than everyone else.

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Yeah. So I will absolutely agree that
there now you have like all the blocks and hunters be like,
yeah, more, more slots where I stuff.
And now the Titans like I got nothing but my hammer right and
my slide. I'll see this though.
Like I like that with at least for prismatic.
Like prismatic, the trade off there is that it's a Jack of all

(01:19:55):
trades, right? Like it's, it is a, a thing that
does everything pretty good for the most part.
Whereas like if you wanted to define your identity as a, a, a
solar Titan or as a stasis Titan, what have you, it's

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paying off more. To actually dive into that
identity. Leading to the class identity.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like.
Yeah. That.
I'm that I'm into. Yeah.
I think it's fair for Warlocks to be exciting for this.
Most. Absolutely fear for hunters and
PvP now. Like you're in fear from them or
fear for them. Yes, they get fat.

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They just get to move around faster.
Yeah, they're just fast, like speed, like.
Fast as fuck, boy. Default, yeah, I'm going to lose
in my in my western. Should I every time become I'm
going to be like half a second slower than them every time?
Yep, it's going to be, it's going to be pain.
It's going to be pain that that's all the news and

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everything. Do we have anything else that we
want to add before we start getting into community
questions? No, I'm good.
No chef. OK, no chef epic.
Dan, why don't you read the first one that we have here from
Subsistence Sasquatch? I gotta pull it back up, put me

(01:21:27):
on the spot. Teacher.
I'm going to start calling on everybody.
I'm in school. I'm ready.
I'm ready. With the spoils of games this
month, which am I most excited to play this month or in
general? Because like.
Yeah, it says this month plus so.

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I didn't know if that plus was like meant to be there or not.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. OK, I'm I'm guessing.
Honestly, a week ago I would have said Silk Song.
Well, two weeks ago when it saidSilk Song, even though I haven't
played Borderlands yet because Ihaven't had a chance, but I'll
be playing it later. I don't even I personally say

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Ghosts of Yote. Yeah.
That's my I've. I've changed throughout the
year. At first I said my game of the
year was clear, and it was clearuntil Silksong.
Now, I could be biased. I waited seven years for that
game, but it exceeded my expectations and I was, and I'm

(01:22:31):
perfectly fine with saying that the year ended.
Now it would be my if I had the website now I could vote, I'd
vote Silksong. OK, however, before I knew the
Silk song was coming out, I had been saying since Claire came
out that I think Yolte is going to be my game of the year and
I'm still waiting for it. So that's the one I'm still most
excited for. I get that.

(01:22:54):
Yeah. Like, man, this is this.
Where'd it begin? I I liked clear, obscure.
I still need to finish it and I need to go back in and finish
it, but. Have you seen all of the
dialogue around Claire though? No, no.
What's the? What's the new dialogue?
There's been a big dialogue regarding whether or not Claire

(01:23:20):
is the best game of this decade since 2020, basically.
Wow. And while I love Claire a whole
lot, I have been on this podcastraving about it.
No, it's bowlers. Gate 3 dude.
Don't, I'm not. You haven't played balders gate
3. Then your opinion is absolutely

(01:23:41):
invalid. Like anyone has played both.
I'm sorry. Yeah Claire is fantastic but but
it's Balders Gate 3 and it's noteven close.
Yeah, it's bowlers. Gate 3 all the way.
Like. What a great game.
What a great game. And it's funny because
everyone's been doing the the the one I saw was Elden Ring or,

(01:24:02):
or Claire. And I love Elden Ring.
Yeah, but even I wouldn't say it's the best game of this
decade. Yeah, no.
Well, why? Why would you say Balder's over
Claire or Alden ring? Balder's Gate has everything you
want from a game, from a world building, from storytelling,
from gameplay. The only reason I see someone

(01:24:24):
not liking the gameplay is because of them not liking the
whole turn based turn back Yeah DND system.
But even me, having not ever played DND, I was absolutely
absorbed in that experience of that combat.
Yeah, it's not. It's not even close.
Like yeah, that's the game that taught me how to play DND or

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like that. That's.
The game that NB wanna play DND.Yeah, yeah.
Yeah. And like the the the fact that
you had that no run is going to be exactly the same like unless
you're like following a guide orsomething like whatever, but.
Like, I mean, even if you do that, even if you follow a
guide, it's it's it differs because the people that you play
it with make different choices. Yeah.

(01:25:06):
So that's it was honestly, I agree, because I think it's one
of the best games I've ever played because every run is
completely different. Yeah.
And you get, you have fun no matter how you play it.
You can play it you like, you know, like a paladin and be like
really good. Or you can play it and kill
everything and be completely evil, right.
Or you can just play it in the middle and even when you're
you're trying to just play it normally every time, you're

(01:25:27):
gonna be like, I don't remember this character, I don't remember
this happening. What is this?
Yeah, yeah, it's great. And it's all up to the role,
like especially in honor mode, if you're playing that way, like
that's, yeah, it's so good. It's such a good game.
And like, yeah, I. Think maybe it's probably
because it feels like very unique too, yeah.

(01:25:50):
Like, I can't think of anything necessarily comparable.
There's definitely turn based games out there, but in terms of
like the storytelling in the world, it's like like a thing
unto itself so. Even that turn base, like that
kind of that kind of turn base. OK one of my mods a good friend
of mine when I was playing that was telling me about how if I

(01:26:11):
like that I should play the other game.
They played Divinity 2 like. Right that are turned based.
He says he would say that was like their pinnacle.
You know, I was going 3 is fantastic.
He's like, that's when they werelike really in their bag right
there. And that was like really good.
But it's just not as accessible for a new player as Baldur's
Gate 3 was. Yeah.

(01:26:32):
I mean, this is probably my, I, I feel like the turn based games
that I've played also were not on kind of a smaller scale.
I think what Baldur's offers is you have these massive battles
with like 40, you know, huge like, like what what what is
that one that happens in the castle?
There's got to be at least like 50 combatants and you're just
like, yeah, I, I have, I've never done turn based on that

(01:26:57):
scale. And that is so fun and exciting.
Yeah, great. Yeah.
All the turn based I've done is like Final Fantasy where it's
just like OK, it's you and then a bat.
Yeah, well, and like, and that'skind of what that's what that's
what Claire Obscure runs into, right?
Is like like it's it's got that turn based like the whole thing
and like it's. It's a great game.

(01:27:17):
It's a great. Game like the Le Perry thing but
like. Of the decade, though.
That's not. Big.
It's really, it's really good. But is a decade good?
Like yeah, it's a so yeah. But this year has already been
stacked like like like has. It been stacked or has it been
stacked like the past two months?

(01:27:38):
I would well, we also have have to consider history of everybody
thought GTA 6 was coming out this year.
So everybody was trying, was trying to avoid that by all
means necessary, like, and it was what what was it was it May
when GTA was like, all right, we're pushing.

(01:27:59):
It up 2026? Yeah, yeah.
And so like, it wasn't until then that everybody just kind of
like unclenched their sphinctersand like let out of breath that
allowed them. To I wonder what what would have
come out though? Like would we still have had the
same release schedule for games if like, would you say GTA6

(01:28:22):
would have been coming out in November, but historically it's
come out in September? Yeah, I think, I think they were
aiming for September. I think they like I like
historically they were, you're right on the money there.
But like, I also think that like, like everybody wanted to
get out of that out of its way. And like the the whole the whole

(01:28:44):
meme of like silk song being like, oh, is this the year that
it comes out? Is this the year that comes out?
And then like it just kind of shadow drops or like it's shadow
announced. There you go.
And then like. And then it's like the same
thing for all of the indie games, exactly like, well, we're
going to move. Baby Styles, which is a game
that is nothing like Silk Song, pushed its release back two
weeks, right? Because.

(01:29:06):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Well, I mean, I love that. I mean, it really feels like,
you know, the, the, the GTA situation created the space
where like other games could shine, you know, So it's like
the, the oppressive shadow was lifted and everything else was
like, OK, now, now all this coolstuff can come out.
It's done that, but it's also made for a very stressful few

(01:29:27):
months if you cover games in anycapacity.
It's gonna be stressful no matter what, because when we get
in next year, you're gonna have games pushed up and pushed back
again. Yeah, because of.
Because of GTA6, yeah. Mm.
Hmm, so and whenever marathon comes out, 'cause it's
scheduled, I think for the last.Half of.

(01:29:47):
March yeah, like, yeah, yeah, that's true.
So. That's a good question.
There's just, yeah, there's justa lot to come.
An add on to that question Grey Fox 2K30 asks.
So question for everybody on thepanel, who is your final group
in Boulders Gate 3? Oh, in the final fight.

(01:30:08):
Yeah. Oh.
It was me, Carl. It was me Lazel, Lazel, Lazel,
Lazel Carlac. It's kind of my default.
Lazel Shadow Heart. Carlac was a fighter.

(01:30:28):
Question I Lazel is I don't likeher at all.
I don't like Lazelle. I don't like Shadow Heart.
That's my wife, that's my mistress.
What do you mean? Oh, she.
I love her. She's my.
Shadow Heart and Lazelle. Oh my gosh.

(01:30:50):
That's because you don't want tohave a cleric in your party.
Shadow Heart was my cleric. What do you mean?
That's what I'm saying. It's because you don't want to
have a person play a cleric in your.
Party no one. Wants to be the cleric, so
they're like. Oh, shadow heart, we love her.
So much. Oh my God, I'm like she's, she's
a whiny, you know what I am? She's so annoying.
She's so annoying. Lazel is a bitch.

(01:31:12):
Carlack 100% through and through, thick and thin all the
way. She's my babe.
I adore her. OK, we can agree on that.
Carlack and like, that's all. That's all I need, Will.
And Carlack, that's all I got. Yeah, well, and don't get me
started on the vampire guy. I killed him basically every
hysterian. Yeah.
No, I have never done his story because he's so annoying.

(01:31:33):
I kill him in every play through.
Everyone's like, Oh my God, hysterian this, you know, Oh my
God, he's the vampire. He's so sexy and I love him so
much. I'm like, he's such.
AI never understood it. I don't get it.
I don't get it. I guess using will I used will.
Probably when I had to pull someone out, I would use Will.

(01:31:54):
The problem for me was like I always was missing something in
my build with four characters. Yeah, I would always be missing
something with Will unless it was like something very
specific. Something specific.
Yeah. Oh my goodness.
Yeah. I I just remember I never like,
will I? I romanced him the first
playthrough and then he took it.He was.
He started flirting back with meand I freaked out.

(01:32:15):
I just. Like you let him on.
Oh my God, so embarrassing. He.
Was like, oh, would you like to dance?
And I was like. No, yeah, dance with him.
No, I will say I did that with the the dog guy, whatever his
thing was. I was just, I was just

(01:32:35):
progressing through his story. Then all of a sudden he, he was
like, I want to take you somewhere and then he gets naked
and I was like, whoa, you know, me saying that I, you know, I
enjoy your company meant I wanted to get down.
Well, you're there. And I was like.
I'm sorry I'm. Sorry you are a nice guy, but

(01:32:59):
this is just this is just platonic between you and.
You know, we're in different places right now.
Put your Dick away. Well, let me get my tunic real
quick. Oh, so funny.
I was, I was fairly basic. I was, I was Shadow Heart,

(01:33:19):
Lazelle and GAIL, and that's typically what my party is.
Oh, GAIL is kind of annoying though.
He just ate all your stuff. Yeah, he like I.
Don't care, but he might eat your stuff.
But like you can, you can make it so that he's more powerful.
Like yeah, that's true if you don't have a wizard on your team
like. Yeah, I get it.
You could also do like a hireling like so I also would

(01:33:42):
result to like if I wanted say Iwanted to run a monk as my main
character in a run, I would do ahireling and that would be like
the fall back character for whenI was for like a build that I
was thinking of. So like if I wanted to do like a
Ranger, I would do like I would do, I would have a Ranger in

(01:34:05):
that spot where maybe Lizelle would be and then change like
have the monk be the main and all sorts of stuff.
So I still need to do an honor mode.
I think I'm going to choose a Bard for that because that just
makes the most sense. Yeah.
Yeah. But yeah, good question, good

(01:34:27):
question. Great question, Great question.
Great. Question.
Great. Question.
Good job. Great question.
Yeah, there's so much coming outin the next couple months.
I'm I'm probably like to answer the actual question, I'm
probably most excited of the games coming up in the next next
month. I would say baby steps is

(01:34:48):
probably the one for me. Like we like Ghost of Yote is
like there, but baby steps is just such a weird concept and
just such a very dumb game and the like.
I played the demo and the humor was right there, like spot on
for me. So I'm very excited to check
that one out. What about you, tiddly?
What's What is the game that you're most excited to play with

(01:35:10):
in this month? I've got my hands full.
Yeah, you. Know what you You play the most
every week? Yes, you play the most every.
Week I do I don't know, do I? I feel like I am playing a lot
of different things, but I I've got my hands full with Destiny,
my Destiny homework, my Borderlands homework.
Yeah, and. I can't believe you're actually

(01:35:32):
leveling. I'm sorry.
I still. Care I want to do.
I want to Guild the conquer man,and I need to level to do that.
I hope I didn't. OK, if I did not need to level
to Guild conquer again, I would not be leveling right now.
That's fair. That's fair, but I need to do my
homework. But to be fair, I'm not like I'm
not raiding right now in Destinyunless somebody specifically
invites me. So.

(01:35:54):
So yeah, Destiny homework, Borderlands, Oh man, I don't
know. I was excited about Borderlands
and that's out and I'm enjoying it.
So there you go. Yeah.
And then and then Rivals, I've got plenty of things to do, so
I'm excited. I'm not really like Ghost of
your like, I'm excited to watch it because I liked watching the

(01:36:14):
one that they put out before that.
I mean, it's not my kind of game, but I'm like really
excited to watch my friends playit because I feel like those
games are so high skill. They're really entertaining.
Like I, I love it. I'm so excited to watch people
play that, but it's not it's notnecessarily for me.
I really wish it was going on PC.
Yeah. Is it only?
Is it only console? Yeah, I it's AI, just don't

(01:36:37):
think I'm going to enjoy it as much playing it on with
controller. With a controller, can you can
you plug in a mouse and keyboardand make it work?
Or not, I'm sure there's a way. You can zim it if you really
want to do that, but. Yeah, also Destiny, Destiny
Rising. I haven't tried it.
My friends are loving it. Like if there's any other game
I'm going to add to the rotation, it's that game.

(01:36:57):
But I feel like I have other work to 1st so yeah.
I got to get into with feet. I haven't played this week but.
Yeah, you're like, Oh yeah, that's right.
That would have to play. That would do.
Oh, you know what I mean? That's how I feel like, oh, I've
got so much to do. I don't have enough time for all
these video games. What I was saying like a few
weeks ago, like I had all those games come out back-to-back and
I literally had to like play 17 hours a day.

(01:37:20):
Otherwise I was not. I had to, like, play Gears all
the way through in one stream, play Kronos Nudant all the way
in one stream, and then I had tobasically play nonstop Hollow
Night before I left. And I'm like, otherwise I
wouldn't have time. Yeah.
And now at least I have some time to just, like, really
engage with Borderlands for a few leaves for Ghosts.
Yep. Yep, Yep, Yep.

(01:37:41):
Although I'm probably gonna playSilent Hill F, and that's
probably gonna take time. Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm
saying. It's like, it's like it's good.
We're eating good. We're not complaining.
We're eating good. It's very cool.
We're complaining about the fruits of just all the games
right now. Yeah, like this is.
Suffering from we're. Just all eating, eating the
fruit, just like without finishing it, though.
It's just like, all right, it is.

(01:38:03):
You're like, oh God. Yeah.
Yeah, agree, agree. Silly, why don't you read the
question from Mr. Aries? Yes where is the line of too
much loot? You know a perfect example.
I think well minded people wouldagree that when encore is
broken, you could keep going in and out of the area in the same
run and that was too much. Okay, so I have to say I don't

(01:38:26):
think that's too much because myexample of the perfect loot
situation was when Menagerie wasbugged and you could do exactly
the same. Running in.
And out and run back and get thechest until the timer ran out.
That is the level of loot I wantto see in the video game for
leveling. That is the amount I want to
see. I want to see it like that.

(01:38:48):
I want you to have a timer run back and forth, unlimited loot.
Yeah, that's what I need. I I I don't think I don't.
I don't see a problem with that.I wonder why they want the loot
to be. I feel like I keep using the
word stingy but I wonder. I would love to to like just
interview them regarding that. Like why can't we just run back

(01:39:11):
and forth for now? What's your thought process?
Yeah, why? Why?
I mean, I, I get, I get that they want people grinding
because they want engagement, they want hours.
They keep track of those statistics centrally.
They use that for when they're talking to, you know, people

(01:39:33):
about the game. Like they're like, OK, this is
our engagement with the game Like, but as a player it it The
thing is, it's not even just loot because loot, there's loot
so much loot. God, my vault is all not.
A little issue anymore, yeah. It's just, it's just crap.
It's crap loot. Like I like in terms of good
loot. And there's a differentiate
between like good loot is in roles or good loot is in

(01:39:57):
leveling. And I think we're specifically
talking leveling right now. Yeah, maybe right.
So in terms of leveling, leveling loot.
The power level loot that drops feels stingy.
I think, I mean, in terms of theroles, I don't know that that's
necessarily the case like that. There's I would still say that,
you know, you know, we, we, we've had that conversation on
the podcast before about, about loot and, and the roles and like

(01:40:20):
how the bass stuff is, is still pretty, pretty damn good.
But but I think that the the leveling loot feels stingy 100%
and it it shouldn't feel as stingy.
Yeah. All right, final question of the
night from Doom Hammer. Yes.

(01:40:40):
Will there be a special Halloween episode of Destiny
Digest where everybody is dressed up in costume?
Well, I think we should tell. Them about what we were talking
about before we started, which was having like having like our
wrestling like. Walking.

(01:41:01):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just one of those days.
And then till he walks out. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So maybe we could do that for Halloween and then like have a
different costume. I'm so down.
I love, I love dressing up for Halloween.
Halloween is one of my favorite holidays.
Yeah, I'm so down. So I'm looking at the calendar
right now. Yeah.

(01:41:25):
I'm going to be gone for like. You're like, I have life.
I'm busy. For like 3 weeks, like the
basically the last three shows in October, I'm going to be gone
for which to some people is probably a relief, but like
thank God. But like I'd be into it.

(01:41:47):
Like it's a, it's that Friday, Friday the 31st.
There's probably enough news that happens that week that we
could probably do that could probably.
Do that. It'd be honestly a Halloween
episode. Yeah, on that Friday.
That actually would be nice. Legit do do it like after the
trick and trick or treating is done.
I guess the question goes back to you guys.

(01:42:09):
What do you want us to dress up as?
Like, like video game characters, Destiny characters?
Yeah. Candy corn.
Yeah, that's a great idea. Yeah, they would probably have
like the Halloween event for Destiny.
I know Borderlands would have their Halloween event too.
So one or the other, yeah, couldbe nice.

(01:42:34):
I could see it. I could see it being a thing
that we could do. We'll, we'll, we'll, we'll cook
behind the scenes and see what we can make.
For you, that's each other. That's a great.
Idea Dress as each other. I don't have the hair to dress
as Tilly chat. That's why I send you a.
Wig OK. Yeah, I'll send you some pink

(01:42:55):
hair. It'd be so cute.
It'd be so cute. Oh my God.
Wow, what was it you said at GCXDan is like?
Someone, somebody walked up to us.
We were like by the the, the getting of our badges.
Oh. Yeah.
No, it wasn't it. Was it was Jay Seiferton, Right?

(01:43:15):
It was Jay. Yeah, Jaywalk.
And I said. I said Dan Finney and I are the
same person but in a different font.
Yeah. Oh my God, it'd be so crazy if
the Dan's dressed up like each other, but I feel like one of
you needs to dress up as me. Yeah, I feel like that's.
Are we dressed up as you? The facial hair, I mean, I can.

(01:43:37):
I know I can. So yeah, yeah, absolutely.
We'll try to figure it out. Yeah, I like it.
Good idea. Yeah, Dice.
Let's try to figure it out for you guys.
Just about anything. With that said, those are all
the questions fit to print. Let's tell people where they can

(01:43:58):
find us online, starting with you, Epic Dan.
Where can they? Where can they find you online,
Sir? You can find me at
twitch.tv/epic Dan 22 finally getting a chance this week to
hop into the Borderlands and catch up with everyone, and also
on the YouTube and the TikTok and the Blue sky.

(01:44:18):
Heck yeah. Tiddly.
Where can I find you bud? Yeah, I am just on TV forward
slash tiddly live Monday throughFriday, 9:00 central or so.
It's tough because it's startingto get darker later and I'm just
like, oh, it's so hard to wake up to the stream.
But in any case, if you come by for auditory caffeine, I am that

(01:44:41):
obnoxious morning person that you've heard of and dread.
So if you that's your kind of thing, come by.
I'm also available on Blue Sky at Tiddly.
Heck yeah. And my name is Dan Finity.
You can find me on the Twitter Instagram danfinity dot GG this
week letting Henry half head giving away a copy of Henry half

(01:45:03):
on Tuesday going to be playing Borderlands with reset boys on
Tuesday as well. Thursday, probably more
Borderlands next Sunday. Pve helps, unless everybody's
like sick and tired of it and like and all that stuff more
podcasts this week. I'm really working on to try to
get my like content schedule lined up thanks to the help of 1

(01:45:26):
Sam Bartley helping me out. So very excited to be working
with them. They're great.
Yeah. So that's pretty much it for me.
Thank you so much for listening and we hope you find what you're
grinding for.

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