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November 24, 2025 21 mins

In this thought-provoking episode, we engage with John McCabe, a succession and transformation architect, and Ava Baichi, a business administration student at Northeastern University and co-author of the book "The Dual ROI: Redefining Performance at the Intersection of Profit and Purpose." Together, they delve into the revolutionary concept of dual ROI, emphasizing why companies that invest in their people ultimately win. John shares his extensive expertise in designing leadership systems that foster performance, succession, and cultural alignment, while Ava offers a fresh, student perspective on the importance of networking and personal branding.


You will learn the following:


1. The significance of measuring both return on investment and return on the individual in today’s competitive marketplace. 05:26


2. How strong internal operations and culture can drive financial performance and enhance collaboration. 09:03


3. The critical partnership between CFOs and CHROs in scaling organizational performance and fostering a positive work culture. 11:07


4. Practical steps for leaders to operationalize company values and create a culture engine rather than just a culture deck. 13:28


5. The importance of investing in existing employees and upskilling to improve morale and retention. 15:51


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LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnpmccabe08


To get in contact with Ava: 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/avabaichi


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