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June 18, 2025 89 mins

Cultural critic, senior editor of Bright Wall/Dark Room, and creator of Fran Magazine Fran Hoepfner returns to the show to discuss Mike’s sprawling, hilarious, and affecting love letter not only to the work of Gilbert & Sullivan specifically, but the labor of artmaking in general.

PS - LINK to the “big thing about music” Fran mentions working on at the end of our conversation; great read! 

All episodes in this series contain spoilers.

Theme music by Tuck Ryan and Eoin Murphy. Additional music is from Gilbert & Sullivan’s The Mikado. Intro clip source interview. Logo photo credit Rick McGinnis.

Follow the show on Instagram @MikeLeighPod. Email the show at MikeLeighPod@gmail.com. Follow Ian on Letterboxd at Nester_Nest.

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