LLCC #3 - Whiskey, Wrestling, and Wild Karaoke

Ever wondered how cigars and whiskey can elevate your experiences? Join us for a reunion at the Legendary Luke Cigar Club, where we unearth the art of fresh-rolled cigars and their aging journey. From reminiscing over iconic smokes  to savoring the complex flavors of Sherried Scotches, our deep dive into Glenfiddich, Abalores, and Tamdew will leave your taste buds tingling. We wrap up with an exhilarating note on the rare Dalmore Cigar Malt and our reflections on the recent D6 Wrestling event that had everyone buzzing.

Step into the electric world of indie wrestling with us as we recount the high-energy atmosphere of local shows like D6. Feel the intimacy of the ring as we celebrate standout performances from wrestlers Mickey Midas, Diego, and the reigning D6 female champ. Alongside the thrills, we indulge in some post-match Glenfiddich tastings, blending action-packed discussions with refined sips. Expect post-show reflections filled with camaraderie, making this chapter a perfect blend for wrestling and whiskey aficionados.

Switching gears, get ready to laugh as we share our wild karaoke tales and anticipation for upcoming music gigs. From humorous anecdotes about metal renditions of children's songs to the excitement of catching bands like Twist the Blade and Phantom Threat, this musical segment is nothing short of vibrant. We even spotlight the quirky Pit Lord, known for their metal songs about barbecuing, complete with their unique merchandise. Wrap up your listen with our light-hearted reflections and a toast to future musical adventures!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:25):
so.
So here we are, legendary lutescigar club.

(00:51):
It's been too damn long.
Fellas like a mixture ofrunning businesses and t-ball
welcome back thank Been too damnlong.
So no Got done with T-Ball andI was just like guys I got to
get back down there.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Well, you always want to hang out with your bestie.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
That's fair, and we're back down here with Luke.
Of course, this is hislegendary Luke Cigar Club.
How are we today, mr Luke Doing?
All right Doing all right.
He's chomping at the bit totalk about these cigars.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
I am not Now.
I won't talk about the cigar atall.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
And since Caleb's an asshole, he has not formally
introduced us.
So I'm Jim, You're Jim?

Speaker 3 (01:36):
Yeah, okay, all right , it's not Caleb's, that was
probably more my fault.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
It's all good.
It it's all good.
So he's both our friend.
We got a lot to go throughtoday, it looks like, but we're
going to start with our what'sour?
Cigar to start.
We're smoking Fresh.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
Rolls Fresh Rolls Cigar International.
What I started to explain wasthat these cigars, when you buy
them, they have not been agedOkay, and so the trick to it is
you take all the cellophanes offthem, which causes them to age
quicker, and then in the humidoras they rest.

(02:15):
they're getting better andbetter and better, and at some
point I like that.
At some point they're reallyinexpensive, but at some point
they reach their maturation andthen you have to go after them
like a kid in the candy store,because you're at the top of the
curve.
And after that, you know, Imean it's just, it's not going

(02:35):
to get any better.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
No.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
It's not going to get per se worse, but I mean
there's a point where, yeah,they definitely are going to get
weaker.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
When you get to the top of that roller coaster,
you're going to have to go downat some point.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
Yeah, I mean, anything that goes up must come
down, right, right.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
And so when they hit that apex, that's when you call
over your buddy Caleb, and hejust runs through them like a
locomotive.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
This by far isn't the biggest cigar.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
I've seen them smoke.
You missed the 990.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
Uh, a bomb, the a bomb was.
Was that the one thing?
The first time I was here?
Yeah, probably.
Yeah, I turned.
I've got a picture of you withthat.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
No that wasn't the a bomb, that wasn't the no, you're
there.
That was probably the when wesmoked the a bomb.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
I smoked the a bomb and you smoked the egg and no no
, I know that, but I think hegot a picture of you with it
because we took it out, oh babyyeah yeah, yeah, that was pretty
, yeah, we smoked.
We smoked rare and unique cigarsone night.
So I had a drew estate eggwhich I'd never smoked.
You ever seen the egg?
So the egg starts out like thesize of a corona and ends the
size of a corona but in themiddle ends up like a 90 ring

(03:41):
gauge.
Well, it looks like like an eggin an anaconda like the.
Yeah, okay but then he smokedthe uh argyle a bomb, which is a
9 by 90 cigar yeah, it's a bighuge all right, what are we
starting with with?

Speaker 1 (03:57):
uh, all right, so this is a this is a scotch, a
whiskey.
What are we doing?
What are we?

Speaker 3 (04:01):
doing we are going to do Sherried Scotches.
Most of these Sherried Scotchesare from the Speyside region of
Scotland, which is asubdivision of the Highland
region.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
Is that not what we did the first time I was here?
No, we did Smoky, smoky.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
Scotches.
Okay, so these are going to belighter, lighter, a little funky
, funky kind of sweet I thinkyou'll enjoy.
This is the classic, like ifyou're gonna get started
drinking scotch, this isprobably where everybody gets
started.
One of the glens and this isglenfiddich.
12 year, remember little boys?

Speaker 1 (04:41):
it's not bad.
Yeah, it's really not bad.
I think I prefer the smoky sideof things, but really, but uh,
that's, that's still decent sogood stuff.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
This is.
To me, this is like uh.
I mean, as far as scotch isconcerned, this is probably like
the uh, the equivalent ofbuying like woodford reserve
bourbon.
Okay, okay, this is like notbottom of the barrel at all your
middle shelf stuff yeah,there's like the middle shelf,
gotcha, but this is like thebottom of the middle shelf, all
right.
And then we got a glenfiddich15, which is a solara cask

(05:15):
reserve, which I'll explainlater gotcha.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Um, yeah, we got some .

Speaker 3 (05:20):
We got some stuff to get through here and then uh,
abalores, which are my personalfavorite, right, you're a big
fan of those.
And then we got some stuff toget through here, and then
Abalors, which are my personalfavorite Right.
You're a big fan of those.
And then we got some Tamdew,and this is Tamdew Cask I think
it's Cask 4.
And then I have the GlenFarkless 105, which has a neat
story behind it, and if you makeit to the end, we're going to

(05:41):
do a pour of the Dalmore CigarMalt which, as I understand,
they stopped producing.
It was about $175 or $160, someodd dollar bottle we're getting
down.
So we're kind of, we don'tshare that as much.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
no, I don't blame you , but Caleb, let's get into D6
Wrestling.
Was that not the coolest shit?

Speaker 2 (06:04):
that was a blast, that was a great time you got
the.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
You finally got the permits and everything figured
out you finally got it allfigured out to where we could
sit down, drink a beer and watcha good night of wrestling
entertainment.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
It was like it was so much fun, the crowd was into it
.
The wrestlers did a great job,the, the football team, the wyu
football team made the nightthat much better.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
They had so much fun.
They heckled every wrestler.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
It was great and the wrestlers, uh, they even went a
little crazy and jumped off thebalcony and uh, yeah, it was
good times, there were some goodmatches and good stuff going on
and cc's got a grade, aestablishment.
It really is it's like is it wwe?
No, but it's in a lot of waysit's really is.
It's like is it WWE?
No, but it's.
In a lot of ways it's a lotmore fun because you're way

(06:49):
closer to the action, way moreinvolved, right, and the
wrestlers do a great job tryingto get everybody.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
Interacting with the crowd?

Speaker 2 (06:56):
Yeah, and it was spectacular.
It's been the third show I'vebeen to now and I was working
for part of it, and it's been ablast every single time yeah, I
just the setup in there isreally cool.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
I don't like how the top balcony sticks out so far
that you can't see, but there'snothing they can do about that,
right, and it's still.
It's still the kind of placeyou can get up and walk over and
look and see what's going on.
No one's going to yell at youabout what seat you're supposed
to be sitting in yeah it's veryopen, very welcoming atmosphere.
It's really a good time it is.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
I never know what to expect when I go to indie shows
and they do such a good job witheverything there and it's just
a great time.
So why is it called?

Speaker 1 (07:36):
t6, they have a six-sided ring.
Uh, yep, yep, so it is, and youknow I've been to a handful of
indie wrestling events.
It was, it was great.
Hey, it was top notch.
I was, I was very impressedwith it.
What's your favorite wrestlerof the night or match?
We'll start with wrestler.

Speaker 4 (08:02):
He thinks that's a tough one, I think.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
I think one of the the guy that, not the guy that
almost got the belt Mickey Midas, diego, diego's fun man.
He was really good.
They had some really goodathleticism there and I liked

(08:26):
him and making my this is alwaysreal good.
Um, it was just really good.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
That match was probably the best I love how
everybody hates dante everybodydo these wrestlers like wear
costumes and stuff oh yeah, yeah, they've got their.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
You know, never break cave a bro, but yeah, they've
got their personas and and they,you know they don't get paid
much to wrestle, but they you gothere and you buy their shirts
and stuff and that's where theymake a lot of their money and
travel around.
And because some of thesewrestlers, like kaya mckenna and
dante and some of them that Isaw at d6, came down or also

(09:03):
wrestle over at SCW up in Iowa,so they get around, they do
their thing and some of themhave had affiliations with AEW,
which is kind of a step downfrom WWE and you know, if you
don't watch it on I don't watchit on TV, maybe Wrestlemania

(09:23):
that's about it.
But if you don't watch it on TV,maybe WrestleMania that's about
it.
But if you don't watch it on TV, go to an indie wrestling show.
You will have a freaking blast.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
They're almost like bands the way they travel.

Speaker 4 (09:32):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
Very similar In different places.
So what do you think of yourGlenfiddich there, buddy?

Speaker 1 (09:39):
Glenfiddich's not bad , not bad, not bad.
I prefer a darker, smokiertaste.
Not bad, not bad.
I.
I prefer a darker, smokiertaste, but that is not.
I would prefer that to like.
Uh, like a vodka or uh anyother.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
Clear, we're gonna liquor slowly ramp it up and at
some point you're not reallygetting it.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
Then you call an audible and we just switch
direction oh, no, no, no, no, no, like that's the whole point of
this is no, no, no, here'strying something different If
you don't like it, let's notkeep going down that road.
Then I got you.
No, it's not that I don't likeit, it's just different.
What was your favorite match ofthe night?

Speaker 2 (10:17):
The three-way girls match was good and the four-way
X match at the end X match wasgreat yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
That was great.
I like how they had them all ontheir shoulders and they were
like punching each other andthey're like wait a minute and
then they look down and theystart punching the guy that
they're sitting on.
I loved it.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
The girls I thought did a real good job too.
The girls were great.
I am impressed with the D6female champ.
I'm impressed with the D6female champ.
She's really athletic and ableto sell things real well.
When she goes it looks veryfluid for her.
Very good yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
She's very, and she's a heel too, Yep.
So she's out there like holdingup the belt and everybody's
booing her.
It's like that's prettyentertaining when you could be
the guy that's hated.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
I don't think I'd seen her wrestle yet and I'm
like I didn't like that verywell.
I hadn't seen her wrestle yetand so I wasn't sure what to
expect.
And she is much more athleticthan I thought she would be and
just really able to sell thingsspectacularly, Like I was
impressed sell thingsspectacularly like I was

(11:31):
impressed, you know and um, wasit?

Speaker 1 (11:31):
gabby was the girl within the pink.
Yeah, I liked her.
Yeah, she was very good, veryathletic.
And then kaya, I mean she's.
She's a very attractive female,but she's very, very good at
what she does as well.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
She doesn't just go out there, and so I like the
gabby, the girl I liked her.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
They were all very, very good, yeah.
And then the matches.
Leading up the first match,dude won the belt and then had
his kid out there, which waskind of special.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
I really liked that yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
Midwest Express belt is what it was.
That's what it was.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
Yep and, like some of the wrestlers, came over and
grabbed a beer afterwards andwere talking to me and they were
just Cool as hell yeah.
Every time I talked to any ofthe wrestlers there.
They are freaking fantastic.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
Great people.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
Yeah, they are awesome.
They just want to make surepeople are having fun and they
want to have fun and they wantto be friendly with people.
It's awesome.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
Yeah, fun experience and, like I said, I was glad
that you were able to get theinner workings done so that and
I at no point did I ever feellike the drinkers were not
making it a family atmosphereabsolutely it was they were.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
They were enjoying their beer, and very responsibly
, and it wasn't negating thefamily atmosphere at all.
Not at all.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
I had a friend that I grew up with that was at that
show and he's in the front rowwith his daughter because she's
gotten really into it.
He's just over there grabbing aBudweiser every once in a while
and she's really into the showand every time a wrestler comes
out you know they're standing up, they're high fiving or they're
booing them and yelling intheir face.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
It's fiving or they're booing them and yelling
in their face.
It's great.
I'd like to get like a.
I'd like to get like a quasistone cold moment with the beers
.
Though toss a wrestler, a beer,oh that would be awesome.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
Hand me a steve weiser I love it.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
I would love it that'd be great.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
Then again, I like the idea of a uh wrestling match
, slash metal show uh no, thatsounds.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
That would be kind of cool like I'm not really in a
metal.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
But if you put the two together, do away with the
vip section for one night andset up the band there.
Yeah, oh man, so you have therest, like all the people that
take some planning then you havethe wrestling match, and right
behind them is the metal band,so you watch them play.
Oh, that would be awesome, thatwould be awesome.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
Probably, to start, we'd have to just because the
wrestling got done about eighto'clock, so you can get done
with wrestling, walk a blockaway over to the Ritz and catch
a metal show by 8, 39 o'clock.
I'd love it, dude.
That'd be perfect.
You'd be working your ass offall night I like when that
happens.
Yeah, it works out well.
What happened last night,that's what happens more.

(14:15):
What else is going on, stillworking your life away?

Speaker 3 (14:19):
Actually, I'm off for the summer.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
Nice.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
Wish I had a job like that Just take the summer right
, nice, wish I had a job likethat and just take the summer
off, chill.
So for the first, oh, five orsix years that I worked for this
place, I took every summer off.
I uh, because I worked, uh, thein-session routes.
So driving a go west bus forthe university, um, and only

(14:45):
driving the university routes.
There's drivers that drive cityroutes where they'll drive you
around, sure, um.
But then I got a dispatcherposition where I worked year
round, and now I've stepped offin the dispatcher position to
return to being an in-sessionroute driver, so I'll get all
the time that school isn't insession off it works out really

(15:06):
nice what we wiu alumni lovinglyrefer to as the drunk bus I
liked driving the drunk bus.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
It wasn't blessed they have security now on drunk
buses for a reason, yeah theydid then too, though well, they
didn't initially.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
Actually, there's a driver that we all drove with
for a while there.
Yeah, not going to mention hisname, but if you're associated
with Go West, you probably knowwho he is.
He drove the drunk bus beforethere was security and he's got
stories about like fightsstarting in the middle of the
bus and him having to basicallyalmost fight his way to the
fight.
To break up the fight, oh man.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
Overly drunk people.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
You get to see that on a nightly basis.
Never dealt with that, yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
Talk about last night we had the.
The fact is shit, Dude the Ritz.
We happened to have a NationalGuard armory here in town and
they were on their two-week ATand got back last night.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
It was awesome and apparently they filled the Ritz.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
They probably packed every bar in town actually at
one point or another.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
No, they stayed with me pretty much all night.
So then we had Parker.
His birthday was last night, sothen he had brought the
beat-ups.
Throughout the WIU bowling teamreunion was there for happy
hour and some of our regularsthat we built up over the summer
local regulars were in forhappy hour.

Speaker 4 (16:37):
You were in for happy hour.
I saw it.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
It was just busy, start to finish, real busy.
And then a lot of karaoke, alot of really good singers, a
few not so good singers.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
That's the beauty of karaoke.
It doesn't matter if you'regood or not, just have a good
time.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
Yeah, yeah, except some of them would rather they
went and didn't have a good timeat the microphone.
Fair enough.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
But they're buying drinks, right.
So what do you do?

Speaker 2 (17:05):
No, some of them Not the ones I'm thinking of Okay,
they're just not that great assingers.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
I would love to make it up there for some of those.
Are you going to sing for us?
I would sing for you.
What do you want to hear?
Shania Twain Baby Shark, babyShark.

Speaker 4 (17:19):
I'll tell you what I'll make it up there for one of
them and I'll let you.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
We will discuss.
I won't say I'll let you pick.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
You've lost that loving feeling.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
Oh, there you go, that's.
Good.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
Yeah, I could probably do that one.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
A metal variation, I want a metal version of Baby
Shark and a metal version of Row, Row, Row your Boat.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
Actually there is metal versions of Baby Shark on
YouTube.
My kids love them.
But, yeah, I, you do it.
But uh, yeah, I couldn't makeit last night because we
actually had practice.
We are I'm talking about twistthe blade, who is going to be
playing in the quad cities onaugust 27th with hardcore, like

(17:55):
ogs from sacramento, a bandcalled hoods, and we are
freaking stoked because we getto play.
We had wyvern at the ritz forthey were awesome dtw throwdown
and they're also playing atgalesburg at the dtw show at the
patio that'll be a blast,they're also playing at that
hood show.
And what is dtw what is?

Speaker 3 (18:19):
podcast oh, this unit .

Speaker 1 (18:21):
Sorry, the acronym for yeah yeah, we, I've been
putting on shows and we had.
I thought you were talkingabout something band specific.
I apologize.
Oh no, no, no, no, I was.
We've had.
Uh, we got that show coming upon the 17th at the patio in
galesburg, which is a lot of fun.
We got reserve um artisan alesbehind that one, which is a
brewery in galesburg, and we'regonna have liberty streets

(18:44):
coming back.
They haven't played in likenine years, so I get to play
bass with those guys and they'remostly improv, improv metal.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
That should be it will be interesting.
I'm not a big metal fan, but Ithink I'd like to see this so be
playing with liberty street.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
and then we'll be having, uh, wyvern, like I said,
and then phantom threat, whoalso play we're awesome, phantom
threat's.
And then Phantom Threat whoalso play they were awesome,
phantom Threat's amazing.
And then the 27th of Augustwe'll be at the Skylark in Rock
Island playing with Wyvern,playing with Blaster, which is
kind of an old-school punkhardcore type band in the Quad
Cities I might really like that.

(19:19):
And of course, hoods, which,like I said, they were a
hardcore type.
I won't even call it punk.
Punk eventually became kind ofhardcore to an extent and they
were kind of at the mid to late90s, early 2000s, forefront of
that.
So it's a real privilege toeven be in the same room with

(19:40):
some of them guys.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
No.
I think it would be really neat.
Everybody's seen a Battle ofthe Bands at some point in their
life.
I'd like to see a Battle of theBass, same room with some of
them guys.
So no, I think it'd be reallyneat.
You've, you've.
Everybody's seen a battle ofthe bands at some point in their
life.
I'd like to see a battle of thebase battles of the base.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
Yeah, there's one guy in this midwest area that would
own and completely destroy that, and that's uh lyndon from.
He's in pit lord and he's alsoin obsidian hammer.
But pit lord is just a two-manband.
They have all recorded drumtracks.
It's just a guitar and a bassplayer and all of their metal

(20:11):
songs are about barbecuing.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
When do they play where?
It's all I need to.
Yeah, I'm trying to get them inthe cone.
I need a recording of this.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
Yeah, they're all over the place on YouTube and
stuff.
But you know, like the oldSeasons of the Abyss album and
stuff like that, they have likeseasonings of the abyss, are
those called Pit Lord?
They're called Pit Lord.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
I have to check this out and like in their merch,
it's a barbecue pit.
Right Like a barbecue pit.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
Yeah, that's what I get, and so they sell like
aprons that say Pit Lord on themin their merch and and they've
got the little that's cool.
You know the little napkins andshit you get from b-dubs.
You know the little moisttowelettes they have like pit
lord, moist towelettes, it'sit's so well played.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
It is very like I need to get my wife like a whole
pit lord package yeah, I've gotlike the least metal person I
know, but I bought a.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
I bought a tank top of theirs and they handed me
like a handful of these here,Take these.
So now I got a, a console fullof pit Lord wipes.
It's crazy, but all right.
What's next on the list?
I know you're chomping to getto the next.

Speaker 4 (21:16):
I'm not chomping.
Yeah, I'm sipping.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
God.
So this is Glenn Fiddick, ourSolara 15.
What's neat about the Solara isthat they basically take
different mash tons, differentwooden drums full of whiskey
Okay, and they take a portion ofit out and bottle it.
Okay, and they take a portionof the cask before that and put

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it in the one they just emptied.
Then they take a portion of thecask before that and put it in
the one they just emptied.
Then they take a portion of thecask before that and put in the
one they just emptied.
So the scotch is mixingtogether and continuously
working its way towards endingup being bottled.
This is a 15 year, which meansthe youngest in here can only be
15, but because it was salarareserve, there could be scotches
in here that could be 30 or 40years old.

(22:03):
Now you told that I've beencontinuously aging them.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
Okay, as they got transferred now you're, you tell
me this story and all I canpicture in my head is like a
room full of drunk people.
It's like, well, what if we putthat in that barrel?
What if we put that in thatbarrel?
And they try it like 10 yearslater, like that turned out
pretty good.
So the thing is I think.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
I think you're very close, but I don't think they're
drunk because they're Scottish.
I have a sneaky suspicion thatthey can probably imbibe a lot
of this on a working day andstill remain sober enough to
keep working and keep their headstraight, whereas most people
on the planet would probably belike totally fit-shaced and
sitting on their hands somewherewell, that's the thing.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
When I was in ireland you could sit down for lunch
and have a glass of guinnesswith, I mean, you know, your
guinness stew or your or your uh, fish and chips or whatever
nobody bats an eye yeah.
But if you're in the states andyou decide to sit down and have
a beer with your lunch, likeyou're labeled an alcoholic,
yeah you know.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
Well, I'll tell you.
One of my friends was travelingin europe and they were on a
bus and the bus stops at arestaurant and everybody goes in
to eat and the the driver sitsdown at the bar and he's eating
his lunch, just a normal fare,but he's having a a glass of
beer with his lunch and thengoes out and drives the bus and

(23:22):
nobody thought anything of it.
It was just completely normal.
So that should be a littlesweeter.
That's a little more sherriedyeah, that's.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
That's got more of a sherry whiskey touch to it I
like that.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
Okay, good, then we're headed in the right
direction.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
We're headed in the right direction.
I for the kegs and eggs thatyou do, caleb.
Do guys come in and have a beerafter their third shift, or is
it just?

Speaker 2 (23:43):
oh yeah, the third shifters comes in, come in every
friday morning for breakfast.
Uh, we're open from six in themorning till about noon every
friday morning, unless it's aholiday.
Then we'll either move it up aday or like sometimes it just
doesn't work out because they'renot working that week, sure,
but anytime they're working thatweek, the last day of work for
the week, we will be open from 6in the morning until noon and

(24:05):
mom makes Mrs Gravy eggs, bacon,ham, hash brown casserole, all
sorts of stuff, and thirdshifters come in and they have a
blast, they drink.
They're great customers.
They play pool, shoot darts,drink wine.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
Yeah, I don't know anybody that opens up for the
third shifters in the areaanymore, Just us.
It used to be uh, it used to bea thing.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
Folks would open up between eight and 10 o'clock and
the third shift.
Mom loves having them come in.
It's it's her favorite time.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
That's.
That's her baby, isn't it Atthe bar?

Speaker 2 (24:37):
is making a podcast, my ex actually started it when
she worked at Bowers and my momhelped start.
Well, it was a great idea.
I really took over and built itinto something bigger, so and
it's it's bigger with my momthere than if I work here you

(24:59):
know more people there than me.
I'll say this much about you,caleb you are uh always great
about giving credit where creditis due yes I am not an idea guy
um, I am a guy that can helpmake a little more functional or
work a little better, but themain idea generally has to come

(25:21):
from somebody else.
I can tweak it and make itbetter.
I can see what needs to be doneto execute it a lot of times,
but I don't come up with theidea as well.
So when somebody else brings mean idea and we're able to tweak
it and make it go, I'm alwaysgoing to give them credit.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
If you can see it work, you run with it too, like
you support it.
It's not like an establishment.
I've worked with a handful ofestablishments, you know, doing
stuff over the years where it'slike, oh yeah, we'll support you
, just uh, there's the stage andum here's a check yeah, you
know, stay out of the way.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
Stay out of the way uh advertise my ass off'm going
to talk to everybody about itfor weeks in advance to try to
get everybody there.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
We should do a podcast at this Friday morning
breakfast.
That would be fun.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
That would be fun.
You'd have to get off work forit.
Yeah, I'd have to get off workfor it.
Maybe a holiday weekend orsomething, yeah.

Speaker 4 (26:13):
Take a personal day, take a personal day.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
Take a personal day, I only get seven of those.
Well, you know.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
But you only have one personality, so one should be
enough.
Yeah, you don't need the othersix, you just need one of those.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
Yeah, it was just one of those weeks of work too
where, like we're doing greatand we're sending stuff down the
road and we're making a bunchof money and all the stupid
little things you can think ofare starting to creep up.
So but that's just life, Likealways, ups and downs.
You got to learn how to ebb andflow with it.
You know, even keel.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
Last night was we were, we were packed and it was
just a bunch of stupid things,like somebody wanted to spread
rumors that we were closedbecause there was an incident in
the bar, which none of thathappened.
None of that was true.
And then one of the drill guys.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
Before he left, he hit on the slots, which means he
was playing a gambling machinein one big I'm glad you
clarified that, because for asecond I was Really dirty stuff.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Give it.
Caleb, but he tried to cash inhis ticket and the the the
ticket redemption froze and so Icouldn't get the guy, the
mechanics, out there to fix itthat night.
So he had to leave for trainingfor two weeks.
He got back last night and histicket wouldn't redeem last
night because his plane did.
It already been redeemed but ithadn't right, and so now he's

(27:36):
gotta go.
But that was just one of thelittle things that tried to
derail the night that he's right, but you're gonna do everything
in your power to make sure thisdude gets his money.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
You're not just gonna be like here's a phone number,
go figure it out no, I called so.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
Now it's the point like I've taken it as far as I
can on your on your end he hasto fill out a form with the
company that I go through.
But as soon as he fills out theform, I'm calling my rep and
I'm I'm like you're going to getthis taken you will get this
take care of, or there will be anew line of machines in my bar.
Yeah, the, I'm not the dude'sone, a great guy.

(28:11):
He comes in every all the timeto see me.
He's super fun and I'm not.
I'm, he's like, he wasn't evenlike.
No, you fill out that form so Ican get this done for you, like
I'm not letting it go.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
Well, in the first time that he would be like and
I'm not saying this is what thedude would do, but just an
example of life the first timethat he'd be like, hey, fill out
this form, he'd be like, nah,this form.
He'd be like, nah, man, no bigdeal, I'm not gonna worry about
it.
And then the next day he'd belike well, I want all this money
, but you know, nobody there ishelping me, and that's just he
would.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
No, I don't think I talked to him about three or
four.
I really hope he fills out theform and I'm gonna check on him
with him next week, because he'sback next week for drill, isn't
that?

Speaker 1 (28:53):
crazy.
They went to two week 18.
They gotta turn around, go todrill next weekend.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
That's brutal, it's great though I get to see him
again.
Honestly, from a businessperspective, it's like these
guys are just so much fun rightthey are.
They come in, they drink, theyhave fun.
We have.
We have awesome convos like Iknow every single one of them
now.
Every time I see them, fist,bump them, handshake, ugh,

(29:18):
whatever, like they're allfreaking awesome dudes, like if
I could have 200 of them in mybar it would be record-setting
night oh yeah and and zeroproblems, because they don't
ever cause problems well, doesservicemen like to drink a
little bit?

Speaker 1 (29:37):
yeah, I don't know if you've noticed, I, I, I'm aware
they're fun, they play greatright and they police each other
.
They do pretty well, becausetheir ranking people are in that
room too.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
Yeah, so if they pull some shit like it's not gonna
end well for them they partywell if they mess up in the
community where the guard postis right they party, they behave
well and they make sure theyall get home safe because they
have they have sober people inthe group that are there.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
They probably got formation at 0700 the next
morning, back when I was driving.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
They're great, I love those guys and we'd had a very
large gathering for some reason.
I think the guard might've hadlike a visiting unit or
something with them.
One of the young men comes upand gets on my bus and he says I
know that there's no bus thatgoes out to the armory.
He says but I'll walk if I haveto, but is there some way you

(30:28):
all can get me back to thearmory, because I am too drunk
to drive and I will not drivedrunk.
And I says you know what yousaid?
The magic word Sit down.
It's almost the end of thenight.
At this point, right, I saidsit down, it's almost the end of
the night.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
At this point right.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
I said sit down, I got a few rounds left to run and
then I'm going to run you outthere, and I don't have big to
do because the dispatcher wasnot cool about me going out
there, even though this wassomething that at the time, like
the person in charge of was myimmediate supervisor, was

(30:59):
absolutely wonderful aboutserving our customer base,
taking care of, and so when thedispatcher started in on me
about it, I said you know whydon't you take it up with our
retired army boss and get backto me about it?
and instead he took it up withmy supervisor, and my supervisor
I'm not going to mention anynames but she told him not only

(31:20):
did he do the right thing, buthe did what I expected he should
do, and if he didn't I wouldhave a problem with him for not
getting it done Right.
And so I took this bus as soonas my route was over and I drove
way, way out to the other endof town Off route when I say way
, this is because we don't runout to that end of town at all
at night and took this kid home.
And when I got back, thedispatcher's like I'm like man,

(31:42):
I drive this bus all over thistown.
We have a bus route that goesby there.
It just doesn't go by there atnight on the weekend because
most of our primary service isfocused around the campus and
preventing the college kids frombeing out driving under the
influence, right.
But I and this is what I toldthe dispatch that man can go,
put his toes on the line toprotect my freedom.
My butt is not waiting to becalled into action and the next

(32:06):
conflict.
His is right.
If he can look out for me inthe service of our country, I'll
be damned if I'm gonna let himget a dui.
And he was smart enough to comeand tell me like I can't drive
because I'm too drunk.
right, he was smart enough tonot try tell me like I can't
drive because I'm too drunk.
Right, he was smart enough tonot try it.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
You know devil's advocate is.
You know he went out, he didn'thave a plan for getting home,
but he did the right thing atthe end of the night by knowing
he wasn't going to be able to doit.
So that's a lot better than thealternative Someone getting
hurt or him ending up in jailthat night.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
Well, you say devil's advocate.
I see what you're saying, butno, I'm not just one of the
things that I've all that I oneof the things that I think we as
the bus service here in thistown pride ourself on is that we
will do whatever we can to helpsomebody within our means yep,
that's how it should be and weeven as, as our uh budget has
decreased and the ability tofind drivers has decreased and

(33:02):
we have many things making itdifficult for us to operate our
service, we have still continuedto deliver bus routes and
transportation to every cornerof this community.
The routes are complex.
It is sometimes difficult toeven understand how the system
works Right, until you've doneit a few times.
There are people under servicethat could tell you like, hey,

(33:24):
all you can do is take this busto this bus, to this bus, and
I'm like how I drive these, howdid you know?
You could shortcut it like that?
Yeah, but you can get anywherein this community on a bus.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
Absolutely, and that's you know.
that's amazing for the littleold lady who can't drive anymore
or you know someone that justwants to go out for lunch or
something and you know, for onereason or another, can't drive.
And, like you said, the studentcommunity is a huge part of it.
Because I was shocked when Iworked up here at the Armory I
was doing funeral honor detailsand we would have, you know, a

(33:58):
of chicago kids that are part ofour program or chicago I say
chicago but I mean the metroyeah, the suburb area somewhere
up the city north of i-8 thegreater chicago area.
The greater chicago yes, I likehow you put that.
So, but they would come downhere to school.
That's why we don't have nicethings.

(34:18):
They would come down here to goto school, they would work for
our program, but they wouldn'thave driver's licenses, because
they grew up with public transitand there's not a whole lot of
need for them to ever have alicense.
They'd be 18, 19, 20 years oldand not have a driver's license.

(34:39):
And to me living up and growingup down here, that just seems
crazy, but you know, it's areality for them that live.

Speaker 4 (34:47):
I'm going to tell you we took driver's ed in school,
yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
As a lot of our demographic has changed here at
Western.

Speaker 4 (34:56):
Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
I've continuously asked a lot of these kids why
did you pick Western?
Because I'm an alumni ofWestern.
I want to know like what isstill keeping my school going,
and you would believe how manyof them have told me this bus.
They came here because for aschool our size to have not only
a bus system, but a bus systemthat doesn't charge you a fare.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
You're a fare-free service.
You don't need a pass, youdon't have to drop a dollar in
the bucket and id anything.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
It's open to the whole community.
Anybody wants to get on the bus.
They come here because they canget around, not just around the
campus but around this town,and there's no, there's nothing
hanging them up from being ableto have a normal life even
though they don't have adriver's license and we were
talking about the security sideof things too.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
It's very secure.
If there's issues, you guystake care of it, so there's no
reason to really fear foryourself on public
transportation, maybe, like youwould in other communities oh
yeah, it's an interestinginteresting concept.
I know that.
I know that uh caleb, with hisbar, appreciates the bus system.
Yes, yes, eight years now I'vebeen workingates the bus system.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
Yes, yes, Eight years now I've been working for the
bus system.
I think I can only actuallyother than on the late night
service where we might havesomebody intoxicated.
I think I can only remember oneincident in which a police
officer has actually been calledto a bus during the day.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
I had a call.

Speaker 4 (36:17):
I mean, I had a guy that was drunk and asleep during
the day.
It was the end of shift and Iwas like, uh, it's the end of
day, man, I got it.
I got to take this bus back.
Come on, man, we got to go.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
So you work for the bus system too, Jim.
Yeah, awesome, I'm sorry systemtoo, jim, oh, yeah, yeah,
awesome.
I'm sorry I have not botheredto ask other guys, so you work
for the same bus system.
Yeah, okay, how long you?

Speaker 4 (36:43):
been there.
Jim and I know each other.
Yeah, uh, I've been there sinceuh, 10 years now, right, yeah,
over 10 years now nice, jim'splayed.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
It starts lately before me at barn.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
Yeah no, I think we had enough mutual friends.
We bet like through, likefacebook gaming or something
first.

Speaker 4 (36:59):
Gaming first.
Yeah well, I don't know.
I do a lot of gaming, so do I.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
Jim's an OG gamer.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
When you say gaming, that's a very broad spectrum.
What are we talking?

Speaker 3 (37:10):
about All of it.
Well, that's the thing aboutMcComb.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
Are we talking a lot of people?
Are we talking D&D?
What are we talking?

Speaker 3 (37:16):
D&D.
Yeah, a lot of people in Macombdon't understand how deep the
D&D and magic thing is here, Iget it.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
I hardly know anybody that doesn't D&D or magic.
Have we only known each other10 years?
I feel like I've known you alot longer than that.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
It feels like a lot longer.
Well, think about it, Kate.
We've only known each other.
What a year or so, A year or so, and we're besties.

Speaker 3 (37:36):
So Well, that's Caleb .

Speaker 1 (37:37):
He is For somebody who constantly is saying he
doesn't call anybody else best.

Speaker 3 (37:42):
Constantly running around with the Dennis Leary
chant.
I'm an asshole.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
I'm an asshole, but he's actually like the nicest
person I know.
Just don't let nobody know thathe used to call somebody else
bestie, but not anymore.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
She doesn't hang out with us anymore, oh man.

Speaker 3 (37:55):
You give what you get and you don't throw a fit.
But she doesn't.
She could come.
She's more than welcome to come, oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
But she won't.

Speaker 3 (38:03):
I would happily Play in her garden.

Speaker 4 (38:06):
Play in her garden.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
I love how you make it seem playing in her garden
they have basically a homestead.
She would be snapping right atit.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
Do you understand.
I spend eight hours a day inthat freaking garden.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
That's why I said it Okay.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
I just heard it.

Speaker 3 (38:21):
It came out like word vomit, the two of them together
, like they practically have ahomestead.
I mean it's impressive.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
Yeah, yeah, they do.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
They do a great job, Like if there's an apocalypse,
we're all going to go to helland they are freaking fabulous
people.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
Don't let me giving her a hard time.
She's my sister.
I can talk as much as I want,but I have to make sure I say
that she is a wonderful person.
I love her very much.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
She is a great friend she's just not your bestie,
she's picked them out a littlebit because I met the better
sibling though well, oh man, oh,you know, she got.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
I think she probably she probably got the looks I
think you're gonna have to cometo one of these events just to
make amends, because you knowshe's not let up on your show
last time oh, that's, that's,that's low you know it's an
event.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
It's an event at my bar that you're putting on and
she still didn't go well, carlife happens problems what?
Yeah, no, it's all right.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
We just gotta give her a hard time so that that
galesburg show is a day afterher birthday and the rock island
show is a day after my birthdaywhat day of the week is that
galesburg show?
Uh, that's a saturday.
Saturday, what day is it?
The 17th of august, august?

Speaker 2 (39:34):
oh, I won't no, you got a bird to run, there's an
official.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
I have a mud run to run you were.
Yeah, you try to talk me intothat yeah uh, but maybe it's
gonna run six to ten becausegalesburg shuts you off with
music at 10 o'clock outsidemight be able to pull that off
in the downtown area no, thepatio actually.
It's like if you go over toviaduct, like by the bump yard,
okay, and you're headed intotown and you take that first,

(39:58):
right at the light, just acouple blocks and it's on, oh,
you mean it's out there on.

Speaker 3 (40:02):
Uh, what is that road ?
But I know what you want totell me yeah, I can make, I'll
buy where the old harleydealership was so I can be back
by 11 no, that's that's awesomeI don't remember where the old
one was, but where maytag usedto be.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
Okay, you to.
You pull up, you go across theviaduct, you go.
Oh no, I okay.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
So yeah, you go right , right there at the light when
you're talking about now I thinkme and my old man went, went
there once and had some drinks,hey, so I'm just gonna give you
a heads up.
You're about to get lapped here, all right all right, I've had.

Speaker 4 (40:31):
I've had the abalone.
All right, what's the abalone12?

Speaker 3 (40:34):
you're onto the abalone 12, I'm moving on to
thebola kesk and I'm you.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
Well, I don't I don't run marathons with olympic
runners, so why would I try tokeep up with you?
Drink I'm not a.

Speaker 3 (40:49):
You make it sound like I'm all right, you're just
seasoned.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
All right, what we get into here, luke?

Speaker 3 (40:57):
Okay, so this is you're having the Avalor 12.
All right, Basically, of allthe sherryed whiskeys, in my
opinion Avalor is definitely oneof the sherryed.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
We still don't have nice things All besides.
Caleb dropped something at thispoint.

Speaker 3 (41:12):
I love that you're looking for a cigar cutter when
there's a gigantic one on thedesk, maybe he likes that cut
box with the handle looks like aslot machine.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
That one back there.
It's got the different groovesin it.

Speaker 3 (41:22):
It's a tabletop cutter that cuts like four
different ways.
Okay, go on about the Avalor,All right, so yeah, go on about
the Borafil, avalor, borafil.
I particularly like Avalor.
This is one of my most favoritescotches.
Very, I particularly like thisis one of my most favorite
scotches.
Very, very sherry, I reallylike that.
Yeah, see, you thought youliked smoky, but as we get

(41:45):
further and further down therabbit hole, I think what you're
going to discover is that you,my friend, like scotch no, and I
admitted that after the firsttime we tried this experiment.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
I love it when you go to somebody who actually knows
something about it and thensomeone says something stupid
like I don't really like scotchand then their eyes get this big
, like baseball sizes.
Oh, you don't.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
Eh, we will fix that problem, let me show you some
scotches that are going to rockyour world.
Hell, yeah, so.
Avalor they've got the standard12.
I think they might have a 15.
They have an 18, uh, but beyond, like the 12, I never went for
the 15s or the 18s or any ofthose, because I found the cast
nmu and uh abunar, which we'lltalk about in a minute.

(42:30):
Sure, but abalor uh getsinsanely expensive beyond the
12th.
It was like maybe 40 or 60,okay, but once you get beyond
that, like, it gets veryunaffordable because they're
they're very great sky, yeah, Ican tell it's good stuff.
I do appreciate you, uh, lettingus come down here and just try

(42:52):
it, you know you know, the thingis, I tell people I don't have
a collection, I have a selection, and to me, my goal was to be
the librarian, the librarian.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
The librarian, I am the librarian, I'm the drunk
librarian.

Speaker 3 (43:03):
I just want to see your library card.
Once I see your library card,we're going to punch this for as
many books as we can get you toread.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
Jim Whiskey or cigar.

Speaker 4 (43:11):
There you go, Jim what I am now the safety
coordinator oh.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
God, exactly so.
How much stress are you undereach day?

Speaker 4 (43:20):
I am under a lot of stress lately.
My wife has recently left me,so that has complicated things
immensely.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
Well, I was going to leave that out of it, but you
might be a little emotionally.

Speaker 3 (43:31):
A sexy man is available.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
Yes, Definitely check your Facebook status back to
seeing as his shirt says.

Speaker 3 (43:41):
Oh no, this is going to be a rocket over porta potty.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
I'm just reading his shirt.
All right, I won't read hisshirt.

Speaker 4 (43:51):
Let's just say I wore it to my colonoscopy for a
reason.
Ok, so what we'll?

Speaker 1 (43:56):
do.
What we'll do is on if youlisten to this, but we will take
a picture.
And if you listen to thispodcast and you message one of
us, we will send you the picture.
Perfect, fair challenge.
Perfect, fair challenge.

Speaker 4 (44:09):
So what all is entailed to be the safety
coordinator for a community bussystem uh well, let's see, I've
had to uh get HIPAA certifiedbecause I've got to look at
medical records yeah, that'llget you walked out the door
pretty quick.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
You mess up on that yep, and I've got a.

Speaker 4 (44:27):
I had to take, uh, what's called the DER
certification designatedemployee representative, because
I've got to be the one thatschedules the drug tests.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
Ah, I got you.

Speaker 4 (44:44):
You got to be a drug expert Because you know, no
matter, it might be legal inIllinois but federal it's still
illegal to smoke the weed.

Speaker 3 (44:54):
Yeah, yeah and everybody with a CDL is suspect
to a random drug test at anygiven time, absolutely, even not
working the summer, because I'mstill considered on the rolls
of the company At any given time.
They could pull me for a randomand they call me and they say
you got 24 hours.
You have to turn up at the drugtesting facility.

(45:15):
And that's everybody 24 hours aday, days a week, probably 364
days a year, because you mightnot get it on christmas, but any
other time they you could getrandom usually it's usually it's
like when you're right, whenyou're going to work.

Speaker 4 (45:28):
I remember the first time I, I, I, I went into work
and my first thing when goinginto work was to hit the
restroom because I didn't wantto have to go when I was out on
the route as much little aspossible.
And then, and the dispatcherwent hope you didn't use the
restroom.
I went, I just did.

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She's like you got a report fora random drug test.

Speaker 3 (45:55):
It's funny that he says that, because to me I, you
know, I just recently had kindof ended up in the
administrative end of things,and before that I was just a
driver, all right.
And so to me, when I walk intowork, if there's anybody of any
level of authority standing bythe bathroom door, instantly I'm
just like, oh, I'm going for arandom, because they're there to

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let you know.
Like hey, save that, we have acup for it.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
So when I was back in the unit like I was talking
about earlier, we'd get, youknow, random drug tests about
every drill.
Well, I went about, that's notrandom.
Then, well, some people getpulled randomly in each drill.
Yeah, for about like five yearsbefore we got deployed never

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once got drug tested, never oncegot pulled.
I go a year overseas and then Icome back to finish my last
year and I got pulled everyfreaking month and I'm starting
to think I watched some of mybuddies get popped hot with
something and get the boot outthe door.
And when that happens, they haveto pay.
And when that happens, theyhave to pay back their bonus.

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They have to pay back theirstudent loan repayment and the
money.
Illinois is getting a lot ofmoney back when these guys mess
up somehow so it just seems likeyou know that last year that
you're in just chill out for alot of number, your number.
Talk about Illinois, yournumber.

Speaker 3 (47:18):
It's probably the best for veterans benefits.
I'm not going to argue that Isaid earlier I grew up the son
of a sailor and my dad lookedall over at different places to
move to.
Texas and Illinois are two ofthe best states for veteran
benefits and that's why westayed Right, and I'm just
saying that's a lot.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
but one hit of something could mess up.

Speaker 3 (47:42):
could mess up your entire life and there's got and
I know a lot of them they've.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
A lot of them have rebounded.
They figured it out.
You know.
There's like.
You know what I never shouldhave signed up for the service
to begin with, but when you're18 years old and someone's
flashing a twenty thousanddollar bonus in front of your
face, you're stupid maybe that'swhy you kept getting picked,
because they knew you would pass.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
You say you randomly got picked because they knew
you'd pass.

Speaker 3 (48:08):
Well, yeah, I mean, maybe you say that, but or
they'd be like, let's roll thedice that this guy gets a
payback I don't know 60 grandworth of education there's a lot
of people I knew from highschool that were like hard
partying teenagers, right, andthen I bumped into them as
adults at different locations inlife, right, and they'd been
through the service and itcleaned their shit up?

(48:30):
Absolutely yeah, it has itsplace In my high school that was
renowned for having been bustedwhile driving high and drunk,
ran into a pizzeria, climbed upinto the ceiling and hit above
the bathroom.
He was renowned for this.
I bumped into him at WesternLike my senior year.
I was at a party and here'sthis kid.
I'm like dude, what are youdoing?
How's it going?

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Man?
He was a Marine, Right, All heever talked about in high school
was wanting to be a marine.
I was like you want to do what?
But you were known to be likethe highest cat on the sidewalk
right and you want to be amarine.
Totally changed him.
Yeah, absolutely totallychanged him.
He was like his shit wassquared away well it's.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
It's such a good thing for a lot of people, but
it's not for everybody, you know, and that's the thing, and a
lot of guys don't realize it'snot for them until it's too late
this guy went into the marinecorps thinking he wanted to be,
uh uh, some kind of a combatposition directly, sure, and he
ended up a helicopter when hecame.

Speaker 3 (49:28):
That's, that's dope as hell.
But the thing is he come from ahigh school like.
The high school I went to waseast peoria community high
school.
Okay, east peoria community highschool at the time was like the
, the uh, the stepchild ofcaterpillar yes, we had cat like
banners hanging in our in ourindustrial arts wing, and so a

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lot of us that have been in theindustrial arts program had been
given the gift of beinginvolved with far better
education and far betterequipment than most people would
in high school.
Sure you know we're talkinglike all kinds of uh mills and
lathes and stuff.
But beyond that, like I was ina cat program to become an
industrial maintenance mechanic.

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This kid was in a program justmetal working and engines and
stuff.
He'd found his calling.
He was actually reallybrilliant once he stopped
smoking weed and he wasn't justa helicopter mechanic.
He'd gone off to schools forlike non-destructive metal
inquiry and stuff things that,like you really had to have some
brains to pass, and this kidwas on the track to basically

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ending up.
When he left.
He very easily could have gothimself a job as an aircraft
mechanic in the civilianindustry because of all the
trainings he got in the military.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
That's why I never messed with the stuff in college
, because I saw some of the most, you know, brightest,
intelligent people just fail outbecause they just get hired,
not go to class.
Yeah, you know, I saw some ofthe most athletic people with
gifted abilities and stupidstrength fail out just because

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they didn't want to go topractice.

Speaker 3 (51:01):
They just want to sit around and smoke?
What years did?

Speaker 1 (51:03):
you go to Western.
I went there for grad school,so I was there 10 through 12.
Okay, 2010 through 12.
We got no, I take that back 11through 13.
We got back in 11.

Speaker 3 (51:16):
I graduated in 03 for my undergrad.
Caleb, what year did yougraduate?

Speaker 2 (51:21):
Undergrad was 02.
Grad school was 05.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
I graduated high school in 05.
Caleb and I were there for ourundergrad.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
Why you got to be putting that up, because you're
old.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
That was a top 10 party school.
That was like Festy.
It was not uncalled up.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
You could do it too when.

Speaker 3 (51:37):
It was not uncalled of.
You could do it too.
When you walked in as afreshman, they weren't there as
a scene Right.
A lot of people just dranktheir way right out of college.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
By the way, do you have like a tube sock somewhere
and some salt and pepper shakers, just in case?

Speaker 3 (51:48):
Bars of soap, bars of soap.
I'm just saying, if he comesafter me, you're not busting up
my salt and pepper shaker.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
Okay, that's fair, but I'll give you some.
It didn't work well for thelast guy.
It's not gonna work well foryou if you don't know what we're
referring.
To go back to legendary, luke'sepisode was a two it was the
second one, I think.

Speaker 3 (52:09):
I think so.
Or full metal jacket was thatthe one where they give the guy
the uh, the blanket?

Speaker 1 (52:13):
party, yeah, the blanket party.
Bars of soap.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
Apparently they're not supposed to bruise you hit
anybody with anything hardenough, it's gonna move I've hit
people with lots of things.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
Oh god, once again, one of the friendliest people
you'll ever meet.

Speaker 4 (52:33):
I'm really old.
A slight touch and I getbruised.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
Until you do something that Warrants me to
not be.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
Right, and I don't know that I've ever heard about
you having to be.
I'm sure it's happened.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
You were in law enforcement, so Well, yeah, and
I've worked security all overthe country, bars and stuff.

Speaker 3 (52:54):
I have been in way too many locations we were just
joking about this on thursday,me and him and dr andy.
Uh, it's like, uh, the quotefrom maddox uh, be polite, be
professional, but have a plan onhow to kill absolutely every
person you meet.
Like that's caleb, he's shakingyour hand and he's thinking how
many different ways can I beatyou if I, if I have to kill

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absolutely every person you meet?
Like that's Caleb, he's shakingyour hand and he's thinking how
many different ways can I beatyou?

Speaker 1 (53:18):
if I have to, if I have to kill you, I?

Speaker 2 (53:19):
can I like to cover my bases?

Speaker 1 (53:23):
Well, that's why you said you don't drink, you don't
smoke, anything that alters yourperception.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
I've had too many things happen where bad things
could happen to me, in scenariosthat shouldn't even be that way
, and so I just used to be thebest possibly prepared.
I came to be in all situations.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
That's fair enough.
We also got football seasoncoming up.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
Go Bucs baby, go Bucs baby Go.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
Bucs I love Baker.

Speaker 2 (53:59):
I really love who Baker is as a leader.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
Like he is.
Took it on the chin, wentsomewhere else, proved himself.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
And leads by example and by word.
Like everybody in the lockerroom loves him.
He's very supportive ofeverybody but also holds them
accountable.
And he goes out there and he'sgoing to get everything.
He's got on every play it.
I what last year?
What I saw?
Was he the best quarterback inthe league?
No, but he's easily one of thebest three or four leaders.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
Okay, I heard this.
I heard this stat listening tofantasy football stuff last year
.
I can't tell you the reference,but here it goes.
They were talking about himgoing to Tampa and the effect it
would have on Mike Evans andthinking you know, in the past

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Baker hasn't been able to get itdone.
Blah, blah, blah.
They look back at stats overthe last 10 years.
The most receptions thrown to areceiver of 30 yards or more
Baker Mayfield.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
Yeah, I can see that he's a good quarterback and, I
think, this year, good gamemanager.
I don't think that's accurate.
I think that's where he's hadto be at, because he just hasn't
been somewhere long enough.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
He's on some rough Cleveland teams.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
And then he was in St Louis and then Carolina, then
St Louis and then St.
Louis, they still have afootball team.

Speaker 3 (55:28):
Sorry, hello, and coming around, turn four is Luke
lapping, alright round fiveofficially.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
But he I think that him being a second year as the
full time starter in Tampa, hemight get back to that big play
form, that consistency he hadearly on because his shoulders
healed.
He's had time to the system'snot changing that consistency he
had early on because hisshoulders healed.
He's had time to the system'snot changing too much for him

(55:58):
this year.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
Dude can use his legs too.
I mean, it's all.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
And just tough as can be.
Like I like a lot of things, DoI wish he was a little better.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
Like every team, hopes their quarterback's a
little bit, but I think he couldbe better this year.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
I think he's definitely deserves to be a
starter and I think he was verygood about taking a
team-friendly deal, um I thinkhe could.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
There's something to be said for not having to switch
programs and learn a whole newsystem and not learn new players
.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
I think he could be pro bowl level this year if
things go right.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
Mike Evans I think he is a Pro Bowler, but I think
that he's going to have anexclamation mark Mike Evans is
first ballot Hall of Fame.
Yeah, so I'm thinking that'sgood, go Bills, that's where I'm
at.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
And we picked up Sterling.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
Sterling Shepard.

Speaker 4 (56:54):
Yes, okay, who played with who played with Something
about football.

Speaker 2 (56:59):
He played with Baker in college.
So there's that rapport and oneof our new rookies is supposed
to be real good too.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
Oh God the Bears.

Speaker 4 (57:09):
All we're going to hear about is Caleb Williams
Caleb, he's the next somethingor other.

Speaker 3 (57:14):
We'll see Justin.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
Fields was the next, mitch Trubisky was the next.
I don't, until Chicago showsthey can develop a quarterback,
he's not the next anything OnceChicago shows they can do that,
if Chicago can develop anything.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
I mean the Cubs yep doing their thing.
The white socks suck.

Speaker 4 (57:37):
It's just that's why I said I can only run for so
many chicago teams.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
So I go somewhere else for football all right,
we're boring these guys.
All right, what's what's nexton the menu here, luke?

Speaker 3 (57:48):
and then I need to freshen up a little bit for you,
friend it's Amalur Kess and aNewt and uh, this is a
combination of three differentcasts of scotch.
They like that.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
I like that one.
I need a short, sweet cigar tolash with that.
He's got it.

Speaker 3 (58:08):
You need what he's got Do you have the single, the
double or the triple.
It's a nub, but which one?
So what he's smoking is a nub,but it's a coffee-infused nub.

Speaker 4 (58:18):
Okay, it looks like it's got a two on it.

Speaker 3 (58:21):
Okay, so the single, double and triple, and the deal
is like the single's light, thetriple's heavy, I got you and
the nub is kind of right therein the middle and to me, of all
of the infused cigars, the Nubis like it's the most aromatic.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:41):
When somebody fires one of them up to me more than
coffee.
It reminds me of the smells ofpipe tobacco.
Okay, and that's why I stopped.
Let's go with what.
What is it called again?

Speaker 2 (58:46):
Nub, the Nub.
The triple roast is fantastic.
The.

Speaker 3 (58:49):
Nub is a shorter cigar made by Oliva.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (58:51):
Larger ring, a shorter cigar made by oliva.
Okay, larger ring gauge, we'retalking 60 ring gauge okay, but
like I think it's four or fourand a half inches, gotcha not
real long, and they got nub wasoliva nubs were the first ones
to be in that format, if I'mcorrect.
But now lots of manufacturersmake a cigar that's sort of a
short, stubby one.
The thing about it is that withthe nubs anyway, when you smoke
a cigar, you hear people talkabout the first third, the, the

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second third and the third,third.
Cigars take a little time todevelop.
So when you first light it,that first third isn't really
reminiscent of all the flavorand character you're going to
get.
But in the nub it's shorter andthe blending has been made such
that when you light it upyou're already in your second,
third.
Hell yeah.
So you're getting a very robustflavor almost from the get-go.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
All right, Somebody snag me one of them please.
I think these are the last two.
Okay, If not, thanks forsharing what it was, and we'll
go with something.
Let me check.
It's like these are great, but,travis, go screw yourself.
This here is the cast animal.
Okay, let me do this so that Idon't break something.

Speaker 4 (59:54):
Yeah, this so that I don't break something I might
not be saying that right,because I'm not Scottish nor
Gaelic, barely even Celtic.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
I don't speak it, but I drink it.
There we go.
I've learned, Luke.
These are much smaller poursthan last time.

Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
That's part of the reason why I hadn't got all the
bottles out, because I wanted toshow you the Everest I was
laying out for you before youstarted to climb.
You knew to stop at base campfor a moment.

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
No, we've learned, we've organized, we've refreshed
.

Speaker 3 (01:00:33):
Did you know that base camp for everest, the
during the, the primary climbingseason.
Base camp for everest is one ofthe top 10 like craziest
parties you can ever get to.
Yeah, there's guys thatactually go to climb and don't
even actually end up making iton the climb because they they
basically just knock their dickin the dirt party and their
balls off.
They say that like when they'redone for the climbing season.

(01:00:54):
There's all these empty oxygenbottles and stuff left all over
the place and they're not frompeople on the climb, they're
from people using oxygen to tryand rehabilitate after they've
gotten totally hammered,partying their ass off.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
I'm Travis Unfriendly Writers, Alright Ebelor.

Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
So this is Ebelor, Cassian and Amu.
It is a combination of threecasts Astro blended together.
In my opinion, it's definitelyricher than the regular 12, but
not quite at the Abunar.
The Abunar is a really decent.

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
Got a drier aftertaste Drier, okay, a little
drier aftertaste for me.

Speaker 3 (01:01:34):
The flavor's good so I aftertaste A little drier
aftertaste.
For me the flavor's good, so Ibelieve in the Cassian and Mew
there might be the combinationof American oak, yes, matured
and American cherry oak Cass, soAmerican oak.
We're talking basically likeex-Burbot Cass I gotcha, and I
think that might be what lendsto some of that ryer-like flavor

(01:01:54):
.

Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
Speaking of cigars and whiskey, the second week of
August I'm headed back over toIndianapolis to hang out with my
buddy, Eric Jansen, who's alsoan aficionado of sorts.
We go to this place calledFinal Third Cigar Bar.
Okay, you never said thirds.
See what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:02:13):
Yeah, to this place called Final Third Cigar Bar.
Okay, humidor, you never saidthirds, see what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
Yeah, that's where I started thinking about this,
because the size of yourbasement is the size of their
humidor, wow.
And they just got a wonderfulcocktail bar and it's one of my
favorite places on earth.
This cigar is great, mm-hmm,but he's kind of a snob to where

(01:02:40):
he doesn't.
He doesn't want me smoking theinfused stuff, so, like, my
go-to is the acid, you know, andhe don't like that.
So the thing is.
But you, you explained thewhole bringing back cigars by
doing that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:49):
But then the next step to me is and my buddy
barzeem would say why do youhate fun?
The bottom line is these aregreat Caleb's over there.
Like I hate everything.
We all become these puristswhere we're like I won't smoke
an infused cigar.
But I think after you've smokedenough non-infused cigars and
you've led through that path ofbeing a snob for a while, there
comes a point where you're likewhy didn't I ever smoke one of

(01:03:13):
these?

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
Someone told me not to.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
Yeah, I am hopefully going to have the opportunity
tomorrow to smoke a new type ofcigar that I've never had before
.
One of my friends says he haslime infused cigars.

Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
Was that a good growl or a bad growl?
When I say infused, I reallyactually only buy cigars that
are infused from one of two, butmostly one category.
I like the ones that are coffeefriendly the oliva nub coffee
line, the um tobacco special, uh, even the isla uh isla del sol.

(01:04:01):
Those are all coffee sort offlavored cigars.
I like those which I love andthen there's uh, herbally
infused cigars that come fromdrew estate that I think are
really phenomenal.
I I will buy them when I get agood deal on them.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
They're not my first go-to, but they are well I'm
excited to try it, because I'venever tried one just the the
line thing I think I'm having.

Speaker 4 (01:04:27):
I like line I think he's like one of those guys that
never fruit your beer, neverput the pineapple on the pizza
guy, you know, oh, no, no no,I'm not that guy.

Speaker 3 (01:04:36):
Oh, you're not.
Oh, okay, I don't care for.
Lion Kool-Aid Summer Shandy.
But I actually love fruitierbeers, so like when you get like
the Blue Moon with the orange.

Speaker 4 (01:04:48):
Oh, you better believe it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:49):
But when Blue Moon first came out, man, I was Blue
Moon with an orange, everywhereI went.

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
I'm going to try it and I'll let you know how it is.
Talk shit on my cigar.
I've never tried one before andmy buddy says they're
absolutely amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:05:05):
Yeah and see, I think if you find the right pairing,
that might actually sort oflight it up.
So if you're not a drinker, butfor me I would have to have a
really good rum and then itwould be like lime and rum or
aged tequila, Then the two ofthese together.
Now we're on point.
I think I could do that,Especially if you actually get

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the smell or a mouth flavor oflime.
I love lime in cocktails.

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
Yeah, and we're up over an hour here, so it's been
a good legendary luke's session.
It was much needed, I think,for everybody, especially me and
jim yeah, it's been a.
It's been a week, a month, infact you're, you're gonna get
through it and you're gonna likegood things are gonna happen

(01:05:56):
you gotta go through the valleysto get you know.
So thanks again.

Speaker 4 (01:06:02):
Everybody appreciate your time it was a pleasure
always fun conversate hopefullywe can do it again we will do
her again.

Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
So thanks again from Legendary Loops.