August 6, 2024 • 40 mins
What does it take to return to the music scene after a hiatus in your 30s? We kick off this episode with the Zachary Tomfeld, the voice of Phantom Threat, as he opens up about his journey from growing up in Letts, Iowa, to rediscovering his passion for music. Zachary shares his eclectic musical influences, from the gritty beats of East Coast hip-hop to the raw power of death metal and metalcore, and how Phantom Threat’s explosive live performances bring these sounds to life. It's an intimate look at balancing family, life, and an undying devotion to music, bound to inspire both musicians and fans alike.
Shifting gears, we dive into the heart of Midwest traditions with a spirited conversation on deer hunting and the beloved Ragbrai cycling event. Relive the nostalgia of using muzzleloaders and Mossberg shotguns while swapping hunting stories that capture the essence of the rugged Midwest. We then pedal into Ragbrai, detailing the camaraderie, logistical challenges, and cultural richness of this annual midwest event. Whether it's the physical grind of the ride or the communal spirit felt in the small towns, this segment paints a vivid picture of outdoor adventure and local culture.
Finally, we celebrate the vibrant Iowa metal scene with tales from recent performances and festivals. From the unique recording processes to the analog versus digital debate, we share memorable moments from gigs at Iowa Metal Underground and spotlight the camaraderie among bands like Frontal Assault, Ill Omen, and Fungal Mass. We express our excitement for upcoming shows and festivals, capturing the essence of the underground metal community and its unbreakable spirit. This episode is a testament to the power of music and the bonds it creates.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We'll see you next time.
(00:40):
Here we are, another dial, thewild episode, and I'm here with
zachary temford tomfeld, tomfeld, god, why do I?
(01:01):
Keep screwing that up, it's allright.
It's story of my zachary tomfeld vocalist for the one the
only phantom threat and I gottasee you guys for the first time.
Was it about a year ago?
You guys played at the hilltopdrop with like yeah, yeah,
concrete sleep exactly and grip.
Oh, that's where I saw hardshiptoo, and those guys go hard in
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the paint.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
They're sick.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
I love it, but you are you born and raised in
Muscatine, or is it more of atransplant situation?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Muscatine area.
I grew up in a little towncalled Letts shout out to Letts
population 375.
There you go.
That's where I grew up.
Yeah, around the Muscatine areapretty much my whole life.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Cool, cool and just probably always been around or
enamored with the scene of somesort, you know.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah, I mean for the most part.
Yeah, I kind of got away frommaking music for a big chunk of
my 30s and then kind of got backinto it, you know, and it was
like, once I got back into it itwas like why did I ever?
Speaker 1 (02:07):
why did I?
Speaker 2 (02:07):
ever stop doing this.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
You know, marriage happens and kids happen, and for
me priorities change.
You get grown up jobs and,before you know it, you're uh,
you know you're in your latethirties, wondering what the
hell happened.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Amen.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Amen.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Amen.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
So no, it was definitely something I wanted to
get back to someday and I'mglad that it kind of made itself
full circle and but now, hereyou are at the confines of the
patio here at galesburg andwe're out podcasting where this
patio party is going to be and,um, I you guys are one of those
bands.
You play a lot, you play outquite a bit, I would say, and
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it's like you guys just loveplaying live yeah, I would say
we're uh, we're more of a liveband than anything like
recordings are solid, though weprioritize live performance.
I think, yeah, everything well,I, I think that's what it's all
about.
Personally, I know guys thatwould love to just record and
make music and never have toplay it like I get that too.
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You know, I don't know, man, theonly reason you do it's for the
energy, and the energy is whenyou, when you get somewhere.
In my opinion, but yeah, yeah,you know, each to each his own.
But no, got to see you guyslast year at hilltop and then
hired you for a dtw show now inmacomb, yep, yep and uh, I saw
you one or two other places.
(03:31):
Oh, I saw you at the red rockroom, redstone redstone room.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Yep, yep, yep, gotta go for that good show that was a
good time.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Sound was great, the beer was expensive, but we
figured it out.
Yep and uh, yep, but it was agood time and uh, you guys, I
would say, are one of thosegroups.
Each time we see you, you justget a little bit better and a
little bit better, a little bittighter and we try and it's
coming.
It's coming along.
Great, I think it's.
It's a unique sound.
What I like about your vocalsis it takes me back to a time of
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like dan wyden at the zao, ohyeah, it takes me back to like
suicide silence.
It takes me back to, uh, blackdahlia murder type stuff and I'm
just like you don't hear thatvocally in metal I know like
when I was like, you know,coming of age I guess.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yeah, that was like the style of music I was into.
You know that metalcore like,uh, screamy vocals, yeah, you
know screechy stuff.
It's like I feel like our, ourband, phantom threat, is
musically like very death metaland then like, but with my
vocals it kind of we kind of getlumped into like the death
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chord.
You know metalcore a little,you could go all day.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
You find it.
Yeah, yeah, thrash metal orblah blah blah genre, sub-genre
that you fall into.
But, dude, it's fun, it's good,it's tight, your guitar players
are off the chain, bassplayer's good and your drummer
is grade freaking A Absolutely.
I really enjoy seeing him play.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
They're a good group of people to be in a band with.
I'll definitely say that.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah, I think my last podcast with um phantom threat
was with alex.
Alex, yes, and we had a goodtalk and you know it was over
zoom and you're like, hey, I'mgonna come down for this one.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
I was like okay, it's easier in person I think it's.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
It's a lot more fun in person.
But uh, no, we ended updeciding to meet here in
galesburg and kind of splittingthe trip.
And I appreciate that.
Um, but you said you startedoff you grew up muscatine area.
What kind of splitting the trip.
And I appreciate that.
But you said you started offyou grew up in the Muscatine
area.
What kind of stuff were youinto in the early years?
Speaker 2 (05:33):
I mean when I was a kid I wanted to be a
professional basketball player.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Yeah, how'd that go?
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Well, I discovered guitar and marijuana and that
was pretty much the end of mybasketball career.
And marijuana and I, that waspretty much the end of my
basketball career.
Um, but yeah, I guess, uh, Ikind of just I don't know I
naturally kind of migratedtowards music.
You know, I I grew up listeningto a lot of, like, east coast
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hip-hop and, uh, west coastgangster rap.
You know, yeah, like that wasmy love and it's still a love of
mine yeah, absolutely but uh, Idon't know that.
From there I just kind of movedinto like listening to like new
metal.
You know it was popular when Iwas in high school and then,
like I don't know, I kind ofjust discovered like the
underground music scene and youwere in the right area to do.
(06:23):
Yeah for sure, like iowa cityarea, like you know, I started
going to shows there as soon asI got my driver's license and it
kind of.
It kind of changes direction.
You know, once I've discovered,oh, there's like an underground
music scene that's doing thingsthat I've never heard before,
like that kind of changed theway.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
You know, I looked at everything, I guess well, it
you differently too, becauseyou're used to hearing something
on the radio, at least growingup, yeah yeah, and especially
like in that time period wherethe Internet wasn't really what
it is today iPods is somethingthe rich kids had.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Yeah, I didn't have an iPod until college you had
MTV2, you know you were lucky.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
And if it was playing any music at the time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But you know, headbangers Ballwas great for stuff like that.
You know it'd throw out somestuff you'd never heard before.
But then you'd go to a placeand you'd see something you'd be
like well, why aren't I hearingthis on the radio?
And it doesn't appeal to a massaudience.
But it's got its own following,its own scene, and it's great.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
And then there's like the energy, you know where you
go to a show and like, forinstance, like I can remember
very vividly going to games andseeing hate breed back in the
day you know, and I was, never ahuge hate breed.
It was like, oh, these are a hit.
This is a heavy band, you know,and the opening bands poison
the well, which I'd never reallylistened to before, and
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american nightmare, and Iremember seeing those two bands
and the energy they put off andit it changed the direction that
I was going with, you know.
It was like, oh, this issomething totally different,
like I kind of and gabe's is oneof those venues.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
It's it's like the cbgbs of the midwest almost
sometimes, but it's such a coolvenue.
It's such a cool spot for somany good groups to come through
.
I think in high school when Iwas there um, it was supposed to
be a agony scene, zao show andthey were touring.
We are outdoors, we there was.
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It was supposed to be an agonyscene and zao show when we get
there and they both bands hadgotten sick and they'd canceled.
So we ended up listening to acouple uh like local bands and
then, uh, if hope dies playedand they were like super
aggressive metal and that wasgreat.
And then right after them wasfear before the march of Flames.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Oh, I love Fear Before man Love those guys.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
That was something I had never.
Yes, sir, that chaotic subgenreof just wild.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
I was really into that style of music.
Yeah, Like the number 12 lookslike you Huge influence on me.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Bands like the Locust , you know like all those, those
, all those guys that dressed up, didn't they put on the bug
eyes and stuff?
I?
Speaker 2 (09:09):
just uh, I just loved that.
That chaotic, like some of itwas kind of like math core, math
metal, uh, just like unhingedvocals.
I just love that style.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Everything falls together Somewhat like between
the Barry to me type stuff.
Yeah, short of getting gent,yeah.
Absolutely you know it has itsplace too, oh yeah.
When you're, when you'retalking about just a chaotic
metal show, you're not.
You're not thinking of guysstanding there tapping from one
side of the front but it dependson what you're watching or what
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you're taking in bands like thechariot, the chariot was one of
my favorites all the time gotto see them in st louis several
years back.
They, uh, um, they played withevergreen terrace.
Oh yeah, oh yeah, down at umthe creepy crawl, when there was
still a creepy crawl in stlouis I think I saw evergreen
terrace in iowa city and maybein Cedar Rapids at a festival
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Still one of the best, sickestbreakdowns ever.
They were pretty sick, no,donnie, these days.
So what else do you do besidesscream in a mic and encourage
people to beat the hell out ofeach other?
Speaker 2 (10:22):
I guess a lot of outdoorsy stuff, Camp hunt.
Well, I was talking to Trent.
All that good stuff.
I was talking to Trent Randallon his podcast.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
You were just like dude.
If I knew you guys were goingto talk about deer hunting, I
definitely would have popped onfor a podcast.
I was like well, that's Midwestfat dads, that's what we do we
play metal.
We shoot deer.
We, of course course, eat themabsolutely, and uh, I don't know
.
We work on stuff.
We mow our yards.
It's just what we do.
(10:52):
So do you being in iowa?
that's a one buck state, rightpretty much or, or if you're a
resident or something, I thinkyou can get a second one.
Yeah, but how?
But how long have you beenhunting deer?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Probably since my early 20s.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Did you pick up on that?
My dad hunted a lot.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I mean, I was always around it, but I didn't really
start actively hunting until.
I was probably in my early 20sGotcha yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
The bow hunt or mostly firearm.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
I started off shotgun hunting, hunting, uh, orange
army, oh yeah.
Now I pretty much predominantlymuzzleloader hunt.
Uh, that's the last two years,I think that's all I've shot
deer with this muzzleloader,busted a muzzleloader, that's
nice, I like it.
It's.
Uh, you know you got one shot.
You got to make it count.
Yeah, I like it.
Well, my shotgun, you know yougot one shot.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
You got to make it count.
Yeah, I like it.
Well, my shotgun's an H&R break, so it's like I only get one
shot.
That's all I need with thatdude, that thing's a cannon.
They don't even make themanymore.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
If I'm shotgun hunting, I always use a Mossberg
500.
There you go, Classic, I'm aMossberg guy Well that used to
be the Walmart gun.
Oh yeah, You'd go to.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Walmart and they'd sell the hell out of it.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Indestructible man and their parts forever.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
You know, you can always rebuild one if you have
to, oh yeah, yeah, For 500 bucksyou can get a really good gun
that you can do anything with.
Oh yeah, you know you couldtake that bird hunting, squirrel
hunting, rabbit hunting, deerhunting, turkey Whatever you
wanted with like a Mossberg 500.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Why do I have three of them?
I guess, I don't know.
But one breaks down you needanother.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
It's just you know.
Why do you?
Why do people have 18 guitars?
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Mind your own business.
That's why.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
True story.
But what was this freaking bikeride thing you had going on?
Oh rag bra.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Okay, bike ride across.
Explain yeah, we have a teamthat did it last year and then
we we did it again this year.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
This is a cycling event.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Yeah, by cycling.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Yes, Um, for people that don't know basically the
route changes every year.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Really.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
It always starts on the West side of Iowa and you
dip your tire in the river overthere and then they have a set
route that you ride that goesthrough a whole bunch of little
towns and you ride your bike allthe way across iowa and dip
your tire your tire in themississippi when you're done the
other side, damn how many milesis that it?
(13:21):
Varies.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Uh, this year was, I think, I rode 475 ish miles, how
many miles a day, for how manydays?
I mean, it varies, it's got you.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
It takes an entire week um.
The shortest day this year wasprobably 40 something miles.
The longest day was 90 to 100miles.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Wow, I think the longest day I rode this year was
90 miles well, you were kind oftaking pictures along the way
and trying to take in like thelocal it's a very local
spotlight.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
It's a very cool event, um, you really see, like
small town iowa.
Some of the towns you rollthrough might only have a couple
hundred people that live there,but you know, all of a sudden,
for a couple hours a day, theremight be 10 or 20 000 people to
come and roll through town.
You know, know it's very cool.
I would highly recommendeveryone try it at least once.
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It's fun.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Now, was this your first and only time doing it, or
have you done it before?
This was my second year.
Second year doing it?
Yeah, but you said completelydifferent route.
Yeah, gotcha.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Yeah, last year it ended in Davenport and this year
year ended in Burlington.
Okay, but it uh it justdifferent towns every every year
.
You know, do you camp along theway?
Or yeah, um, basically, wewould have a support vehicle.
Uh, I have a Chevy expresscamper van that I built out that
, that was our support vehicle.
(14:45):
We had someone to drive that.
Um, you, basically, you driveout there, there, you set up
your camp, you stay the night.
Day one, you start riding, youtear down your camp, you start
riding, and then there's like ameet-up town in the middle of
the day where you meet back upwith your support vehicle and
you get food or drinks or, youknow, ice or whatever you need,
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and then you part ways with themand you ride the route and then
you meet up with them in theend town, set up camp, camp.
Next morning you tear it down,you start riding.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Now they have designated areas for these camps
.
You just find a spot along theroad.
It kind of depends.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
They have designated areas, but there's so many
people and there's so many bigcampers and it's kind of a
free-for-all.
You just try to find the bestplace you can, and that's it was
called.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
What again?
Ragbrai, ragbrai, okay, andthat's a jaunt across iowa every
year, man, every year.
That's crazy.
Was it super hot for you thisyear doing that?
Or there was a couple?
Speaker 2 (15:45):
days that were pretty warm.
Last year was very, very hot.
This year was not quite as hot,but this was the hilliest year
of all time, so it was gottawork out and people think iowa
is completely flat.
But there's parts of iowa thatare not flat at all do you think
on on your route each day?
Speaker 1 (16:04):
how many times you think you stop?
Speaker 2 (16:06):
it varies.
You know, there's like betweentowns there's there's little
places you can stop.
Maybe they have beer tents setup, or there's a lemonade stand,
or you can stop and get a tacoor whatever.
There's plenty of opportunitiesto just stop and pull over.
Sometimes your legs are burningso damn bad that it's like,
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okay, well, I'm stopping thenext place.
I see I'm stopping.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Nice.
So did you get started withPhantom Threat when they decided
to start playing, or are youone of the original members of
Phantom Threat?
I guess?
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Yes, Okay cool.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Because I know you've been through a couple drummers
and a few other guys come andgone, but this lineup that I
know of of you guys beentogether at least two years or
so uh, damn, I'm terrible withtime.
Uh, yeah, probably not too butyeah, I would say it was about
this time last year at hilltopand this was the lineup you guys
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had.
Yeah, that's true, and it justseems like both your guitar
players compliment each otherwell.
Oh yeah, they shred, andeverything's so low-end that
your high vocals just kind ofputs the icing on the cake.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
I like it that way, you know, and the recordings.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
I think the stuff that you guys have on Spotify is
spot on.
I just think it sounds great.
The cast for Corpse Duty andone of them with the red cover
on it, damn it, I can't everremember all the names of them,
but hell, I'm in the band.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
I can't remember the names of all of them.
You're doing, alright?
Speaker 1 (17:42):
I'm going to pull it up here though, just because I
can hear them in my head.
I just can't remember the titleof the song.
Like I said, I've seen you guyshalf a dozen times, so well, we
kind of do remember the titleof the song that, like I said,
I've seen you guys half a dozentimes, so I will um we kind of
do.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
We do like, when we record we go in and record the
live uh like guitars and drumslive stretch to get scratch
track, yeah, just to get thatdrum track solid, and then kind
of layer everything from there.
There you go.
It's not like a traditionallive recording, but I mean it's.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Go full chariot and do nothing.
Yeah, nothing digital,everything's analog.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
There's aspects that I really like about that you get
a different kind of energydoing it that way.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
The thin crest of an oracle's blood.
That's what I was thinking ofyou know, when I've used your
guys's intro a number of timesfor like background music on on
social media posts.
I like to do that when we gotshows coming up is just use the
band's background music to kindof beef up each post.
And no, I'm excited because youknow frank's the drummer, right
(18:47):
?
Yeah, he's gonna be up theredoing his thing.
You guys are all gonna be downhere.
This show is going to be so oldschool and laid back.
I was talking to Alex about ita little bit and he was just
kind of nervous.
I'm like, dude, this is goingto be the most laid back show
you guys have probably everplayed.
This is going to be an outsidelike metal picnic, so yeah,
it'll be good.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
It'll be good.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
But we were just talking a little bit ago.
You guys just got done withIowa Metal Fest, is that what it
?
Speaker 2 (19:12):
was called and that was in.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Cedar Rapids.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Iowa Metal, underground, underground.
Okay, put that on.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Yeah, and that was Cedar Rapids yeah, it was just
last night and who all played atthat one?
Because that was a sick lineupthere was a lot of bands.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
I'm not going to remember all of Maul Saw, pit
Lord, play Pit Lord, falseProvidence X, cathedral Shit,
I'm gone.
I'll never remember every band.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Iowa Metal Underground.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Yeah, big shout out to those guys.
Frontal Assault Ill Omen.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Ill Omen Pit Lord Fungal Mass played.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Big shout out to Fungal Mass.
Mass leaf was actually one ofthe founding members of phantom
threat okay, brotherhood of theoh, the mudcats that's cool man
a lot of good bands, all thebands, ripped man.
It was like the best, uh, 20 or25 dollars you could spend and
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see quality bands.
We were privileged to be a partof it.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Absolutely what went into that?
Just hey, we're interested, andyou just kind of wait and see
what the card's going to be.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Because they're all different.
Yeah Well, with this one, withIowa Metal Underground putting
it on, the guys from FrontalAssault and ill omen are doing
that thing and, like we'veplayed a lot of shows with those
guys, we're, we're gettingclose with those guys.
They're, they're super cooldudes.
They rip, absolutely rip, andso it's like they reached out to
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us and got us on it and it was.
We were definitely honored tobe able to play it.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
It was a excellent, excellent time well, I think
you're kind of right in thepocket of like underground iowa
music where you want to be likemuscatine.
You know you're only a couplehours or so jaunt from anywhere
you want to be in iowa and thenyou're less than 30 minutes from
anywhere you want to be in thequad cities.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Yeah, we really don't have much of a scene in
muscatine anymore, but I mean,there's a couple bands still
holding it down.
Shout out to all the muscatinebands.
But uh, you know, like themuscatine scene used to be
pretty thriving back when I wasa young person, you know, right,
it's gotten.
It's kind of, I think it a lackof venues and just there wasn't
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that much going on for a longtime and that covid kind of
nixed a lot.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Reset everything a little bit everywhere,
absolutely.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Yeah, we.
You know we're kind of in atriangle of like the quad cities
, burlington, iowa city.
I mean it's a good locationyeah.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
But no, it was a interesting situation Meeting up
with Adam getting associatedwith this place here at the
patio and then just us having asimilar vision of something we
wanted to do out here, and thencoming here for a metal show
where I believe it's again weRise and Obsidian Hammer.
(22:05):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Obsidian Hammer and a handfulof other bands played here that
night.
I was just like we could pack aDTW here like yeah this bad.
You know, let's, let's, let'shave a good ending to the summer
here, because, shit, we're inaugust.
Dude, I know it's hard tobelieve we're already in august,
and you know it's.
It's gonna be a lot of fun, uh,seeing liberty street get back
(22:26):
together and do their thing.
They haven't played in likenine years, wow, you know, and
it's mostly like metal improvtype stuff, which you don't see,
so, but you know they all usedto live together, they all used
to hang out in the house andjust play like all day long, and
that's the kind of stuff that'sthe kind of stuff you want to
see and of course, the boys inwyvern dude I absolutely.
(22:47):
Even if I hated their music likeI would absolutely hang out
with all those guys anytimebecause they're so much fun.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Yeah, they're solid dudes but we played several
shows with them now well, theywere at that um redstone.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
They were at that show they were.
Did they play the same dtw showas you guys did?
I don't think so I think theyplayed.
I think they played the.
Uh, they played the mean green.
The st patty's day we did okayand you guys played the first
one, I believe the raz.
Yes, yeah, so, but now that wasa great night too.
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That was you guys.
That was who was on that card.
I want to say post razzle, postad was on that card.
They were on the first twocards.
So, yeah, they were on thatConcrete Sleep came down.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Oh, Die First, I think.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Die First and Concrete Sleep.
That was a good one Shout outto Die First Love, die First man
, and I'm missing on Concretetoo, man.
I love old school hardcore.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Oh yeah, me too.
Man, man and uh, you knowthey're just they're into other
things right now.
So, yeah, I don't blame them atall, but yeah, die first has
been killing it.
Oh yeah, it just I don'tunderstand how they got.
How is there a system out therethat can supply the power to
push what they're doing?
I know they struggled with thata little bit at the, at the
(24:05):
ritz there, because you knowthey weren't getting the output
they wanted, but it's amazing towatch them play and they're
another one that gets bettereach time you see them.
Absolutely, they're solid.
They're solid dudes, good group.
I tried to get them down on thiscard and they just couldn't
swing it, which I get it.
There's another show, and I'mnot too vain or proud to admit
(24:26):
when there's other shows goingon at the same time as us.
But I posted a while back likeum dark surface and Dan Bala and
a handful of like, really goodSpringfield Peoria Like bands
are playing the same day as asus, on the 17th, but they're
playing down in Jacksonville.
So I do encourage you if you'renot feeling the drive to
Galesburg, get your ass toJacksonville and check out that
(24:48):
Cause there's six killer.
Uh, leave them cold.
A hardcore group out of Quincyis going to be on that card and
you know I'm just really excitedfor what those guys are putting
together and that's why I likeabout the DTW shows is trying to
pull bands from differentscenes and trying to put
together a car.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Absolutely, because, like, honestly, like you know,
it's like we're not that farfrom here, or, quincy Right,
there's an untapped market thatwe've never.
We don't know any bands fromthere, you know.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Well, it's so convenient to just have so many
shows in the Quad Cities.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
You can kind of you meet a lot of people that it's
like, oh, we've only lived likea couple of hours from each
other all this time.
We could have been playingshows together.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Yeah Well, that's the one thing in.
Social media is a good thing,absolutely, you know, absolutely
.
But that's that's the thing is.
Do you guys want to drive anhour to get to galesburg or so?
And you know it.
You reach out to some of theother bands that we've had and
be driving two hours or so to goto peoria and play or
jacksonville or springfield andjust kind of get having that
(25:52):
local, that local following,that local scene is huge.
Quad cities has it, peoria hasit, you know Peoria has it.
The Springfield, jacksonvillearea has it.
Bloomington, illinois has it.
And then Iowa city, cedar,Rapids, St Louis and then how
(26:15):
many like amazing death metalgroups are within the state of
Wisconsin.
Yeah, you know, and I know thatI know there's some guys in
Quincy and Quad Cities that areworking to pull a lot of those
bands down to do that and it'slike dude, cross paths, like
network make it work.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
And because like you know it's, I'm a fan of all
heavy music.
You know like, I like deathmetal, I like technical metal, I
like grindcore, I like hardcore, I like all you know.
Right, there's a place for allheavy music.
And it's like it's cool whenyou can kind of get shows that
cross over.
(26:52):
It's like okay, we're fiveheavy bands, but we're all
playing a little bit your ownstyle.
You know, I I like that.
I mean, that's kind of the wayit was.
So when I was coming up it waslike you would go see like a
metal band and there'd probablybe a hardcore band opening for
hardcore band or, vice versa,punk band or alternative rock
band or an indie band.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
you know there's a little bit less of that now, I
think, just because it seemslike the older we got the sounds
would kind of stay within theirown collectives.
But I think we work a littlebit harder to kind of cross the
genres a little bit.
That's what the Timberfestfestivals that we had down by
(27:34):
Macomb A lot of those people arefree spirit.
You know bluegrass, acoustic,you know just indie type, band
type stuff, and then we wouldend the night with God War or
somebody you know.
And then everybody was superinto it and it's not something
(27:55):
you can explain to somebodyuntil they've been to one of
those shows.
It might not be something youflip on on the radio, but when
you go out there and just loseyour mind for a little bit, it's
a whole different ball of wax.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Yeah, and I think with the internet, with
streaming services, as much aspeople hate on streaming
services like it's- it's here.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
You know it's not going anywhere.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
It, uh it.
It kind of forces you to have amore open mind towards music,
because you're exposed to somuch different music that you
would have never heard before.
You know like people are are.
People are more open to otherstyles of music as long as it's
creative, and you know peopleare putting something into it,
like like seeing a bluegrassband, like I love like a lot of
(28:42):
that traditional roots music.
You know I, yeah I dig it, I digit a lot.
But uh, it's like you know, you, you you can look at a
technical death metal band andyou can look at somebody in one
of those bands shredding on anacoustic or a mandolin.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Or a banjo, and it's like oh, these dudes are all
shredding, it's just one ofthem's not plugged into a
pedalboard.
Yeah, we talked about that onone podcast too.
It's just like they're doingthe same thing.
They're sweep, picking ondifferent stuff and they're just
calling it something else, butat the end of the day, like
talent's talent, you know, andit's amazing um, and I I can't
imagine how boring life would beif I only listened to one style
(29:21):
of music.
Absolutely, I just can't, I'mnot I'm not wired that way,
gotta have.
And well, to me it's justdifferent moods, or where I'm at
in my day, or where I'm at inmy head, and you know, know what
.
What am I trying to accomplishhere, for sure, am I trying to
chill out?
Am I trying to beef up?
You know what's going on.
Am I trying to ride my bikeacross to Iowa?
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Yeah, well, I'm sure that like you've got a like what
kind of stuff goes into aplaylist for that?
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Um mostly house music , mostly techno techno like Um
mostly house music, mostlytechno techno like high BPM
techno.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Okay, so like, uh, so so like the background music of
your own bike writing video Forsure.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
For sure, I'm a bad ass, which I listen to a lot of
that style of music anyway whenI'm not riding a bike, but like
it's uh to me personally, youwant like a high bpm music, just
to you know, kind of keep youin the groove, keep you pedaling
so what is it that uh, a leadvocalist of uh phantom threat,
(30:26):
does for a living?
well, uh, the majority of myadult life I worked in the
plastics industry as amaintenance mechanic or
maintenance lead, or I did a lotof work in tool and dye.
This was the last year.
I took a job as a field servicetechnician for a corporation
(30:46):
that maintains and repairshospital equipment, and so I
travel around to differenthospitals and just work on
sterilization and washingequipment for surgical tools and
robotic arms.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
So you've gotten to see lots of interesting.
It's interesting.
It's definitely interesting.
My wife works in um histologyso I get to hear about all the
things that are you know, I meanwithin um.
You know no names or anything,obviously, but uh, she's always
(31:26):
telling me you know, had a boobcome down to me or someone's leg
or you know an eyeball, youknow whatever they had to remove
.
They send to her and she getsthe dice up and put it in on
slides for the, for thepathologist to.
You know, see wild, wild job.
And it's just like how am Imarried to this woman?
She goes and she chops up bodyparts and she comes home and
(31:50):
just acts like the sweetestperson on earth.
But I punch out and that's it.
But then again I was the likethe crankiest person in the
world doing pest control, youknow, on the daily, and then I'd
come home and have to check outof that and be dad or be
husband and stuff, and it's noteasy sometimes.
But how far out do they get youtraveling to do that job?
Speaker 2 (32:11):
I'm mostly in the Iowa city, Cedar Rapids area for
the most part.
Occasionally I have to travelother places, but not a whole
lot.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Like a week or two type job, or when you go do
those or showing up to fixsomething.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Well, most of my travel is like for training.
They have a extensive trainingprogram that I had to go out to
Ohio for for a couple of weeksOkay, A couple of times now.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Take your bike, or I did, I did, I did a lot, you did
ride your bike clear out there.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
I did some bike training out there.
I took it with me.
I didn't ride it all the wayout there.
Okay, that's what I was gettingat.
I was like what did you?
Speaker 1 (32:55):
none of us, not yet, not yet.
How long have you been doing?
Speaker 2 (32:56):
the bike deal, or just riding, or is that just
something you've always did?
I I would not consider myself acyclist.
I basically train on my bikefor this one specific week-long
ride every year, and I'm I'm notlike a cyclist, but I am an
adventure enthusiast, sure.
So that's kind of like the ragride.
Adventure draws me in.
So riding a bike.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
I've only ridden my bike once since I got back so
well, I'm sure you need a littletime to decompress from some of
that, so, but you know, ridinga bike, shooting deer playing in
a metal band.
I don't know anything, anythingmuch more Midwest than that.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
I mean, you know, work, a full-time job, wife and
kids.
Nope, nope, neither, just doyour own thing.
Yes, sir, that's nothing wrongwith that.
So what else is on the spectrum?
You guys, I'm sure, have got afew shows lined up ready to go
out and play.
Yes, we are playing the showhere.
(33:52):
That's our next show, yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
And then after that we are playing in Iowa City with
Nervosa.
Then we are playing in IowaCity with Goat Whore, which will
be an awesome, awesome show.
That's at Gabe's Okay.
Beyond that, I think we havesome other shows booked, but I
don't remember what they areoffhand.
(34:14):
Uh, we'll be going in andrecording a new ep at flat black
studio with luke tweedy at theend of this month, so hopefully
there'll be some, some freshmusic to stream looks like you
got something the iowa city show.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
That's october 17th.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's.
That's gonna be at wildwood,which, after talking to alex, he
says that's one of your guys'sfavorite places to play.
Yeah, that's October 17th.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that'sgonna be at Wildwood, which,
after talking to Alex, he saysthat's one of your guys favorite
places to play.
Yeah, that's with ingestedthat'll be a good show it looks
like the Iowa Metal Undergrounddid a really good video of you
guys there at the Redstone room.
(34:47):
I thought about nabbing it butI'm like I'm not gonna take
somebody else's stuff you know,looks like it's coming along
nicely.
You guys are playing a lot,you're recording when you want
to or need to and just trying tomake it work as a bunch of
grown dudes.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Yeah, we're just trying to keep progressing with
it.
You know it's you get out of itwhat you put into it.
So, absolutely, we try to putit, we try to put a lot into it.
It's rewarding.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
I love that how often do you guys practice Every
Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Every Wednesday, there you go, and that helps
when it's on a reoccurring deal,Because then it's like this is
what we do on Wednesdays.
I don't have any plans onWednesdays ever.
I'm already booked, so justhead there after work and do
your thing and you guys writingmuch new stuff or you said
you're getting ready to record.
We've got a lot of stuff comingdown the pipes.
(35:40):
That's going to be, I think,hopefully a level of brutality
that we haven't had beforetapping into some darkness.
I think the new, the newmaterial is going to be very, uh
, eye-opening to people.
I hope gotcha, I hope we'll see.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Yeah, maybe not, you never know cool, you got
anything else you want to chatabout, or a big shout out to
iowa metal underground forputting on that show last night.
Uh, killer time yeah, I wishthere was more of that, just the
festivals, and I know thatquincy had one.
Um, uh, tim gale over atmidwest monster promotions.
(36:22):
He did a, he did one.
He's big on like having a bunchof local bands and then a cover
band at the end of the night.
Is kind of how he likes to runhis promotions and his
productions.
And I think yesterday wasnativity and sabbath, so like a
black sabbath type cover band,and today today is the second
day of it and I think they'rehaving like a limp biscuit cover
(36:43):
band.
Oh my god which I I can?
I can get down some biscuit dude.
You know you start getting intothe scene.
You're like I don't listen toanything on the radio.
You know tough guy andeverything.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
But then years later, limp Bizkit's having that
resurgence right now, man.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
It's crazy seeing what they're doing.
It's crazy Original members andall just.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Another whole generation listened to them and
that generation had kids, andnow their kids are starting to
listen to them and they're like,oh okay, I get biscuit.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
All I wanted was a Pepsi, I get it now it's wild,
it's wild.
I'm going to go watch a.
I'm going to go watch adocumentary on Woodstock 99 and
see how this turns out.
No, they've calmed down quite abit, which they needed to, and
but it's good for, like you said, the resurgence that they're
(37:33):
having.
It's just, you know, I it's.
It's funny you talk to peoplethat were back in the day like
well, it's, you know, it's notseen.
I'm not listening to that andlike now I'm meeting them all at
either blimp biscuit shows orwe're all just like dude.
I've always loved slipknot, Ijust didn't ever want to admit
it in front of people.
But you know, you grow up andyou learn and it's all good
(37:56):
stuff.
Man, I appreciate you comingdown.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
Hell yeah, I appreciate you having us, I
appreciate you putting us onthese shows.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
It's going to be a really, really dope show.
I'm really excited for it.
Are they open?
Not yet for it, not yet.
It sounds like the owner, adam,just got here.
Awesome, so probably a goodtime to end August 17th here at
(38:27):
the patio in Galesburg.
You're going to see PhantomThreat.
You're going to get to meetthis guy, zachary.
You're going to meet Alexlex,frank, all the guys, and gonna,
uh, meet the boys from wyvern.
Gonna get to see liberty streetdo their thing again for the
first time in almost a decadeand, um, get here, do your thing
.
Um, hey, you wait a minute,we're closing shit down.
(38:51):
You calm down.
Hey, hey, who owns this place?
I do now fool.
All right, come here, listen tothem, buy their merch.
Thanks again for coming,appreciate you, and we'll call
that a podcast thanks, soundsgood.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Thank you Outro.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Music.
We'll see you next time.
(00:40):
Here we are, another dial, thewild episode, and I'm here with
zachary temford tomfeld, tomfeld, god, why do I?
(01:01):
Keep screwing that up, it's allright.
It's story of my zachary tomfeld vocalist for the one the
only phantom threat and I gottasee you guys for the first time.
Was it about a year ago?
You guys played at the hilltopdrop with like yeah, yeah,
concrete sleep exactly and grip.
Oh, that's where I saw hardshiptoo, and those guys go hard in
(01:24):
the paint.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
They're sick.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
I love it, but you are you born and raised in
Muscatine, or is it more of atransplant situation?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Muscatine area.
I grew up in a little towncalled Letts shout out to Letts
population 375.
There you go.
That's where I grew up.
Yeah, around the Muscatine areapretty much my whole life.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Cool, cool and just probably always been around or
enamored with the scene of somesort, you know.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah, I mean for the most part.
Yeah, I kind of got away frommaking music for a big chunk of
my 30s and then kind of got backinto it, you know, and it was
like, once I got back into it itwas like why did I ever?
Speaker 1 (02:07):
why did I?
Speaker 2 (02:07):
ever stop doing this.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
You know, marriage happens and kids happen, and for
me priorities change.
You get grown up jobs and,before you know it, you're uh,
you know you're in your latethirties, wondering what the
hell happened.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Amen.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Amen.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Amen.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
So no, it was definitely something I wanted to
get back to someday and I'mglad that it kind of made itself
full circle and but now, hereyou are at the confines of the
patio here at galesburg andwe're out podcasting where this
patio party is going to be and,um, I you guys are one of those
bands.
You play a lot, you play outquite a bit, I would say, and
(02:48):
it's like you guys just loveplaying live yeah, I would say
we're uh, we're more of a liveband than anything like
recordings are solid, though weprioritize live performance.
I think, yeah, everything well,I, I think that's what it's all
about.
Personally, I know guys thatwould love to just record and
make music and never have toplay it like I get that too.
(03:10):
You know, I don't know, man, theonly reason you do it's for the
energy, and the energy is whenyou, when you get somewhere.
In my opinion, but yeah, yeah,you know, each to each his own.
But no, got to see you guyslast year at hilltop and then
hired you for a dtw show now inmacomb, yep, yep and uh, I saw
you one or two other places.
(03:31):
Oh, I saw you at the red rockroom, redstone redstone room.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Yep, yep, yep, gotta go for that good show that was a
good time.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Sound was great, the beer was expensive, but we
figured it out.
Yep and uh, yep, but it was agood time and uh, you guys, I
would say, are one of thosegroups.
Each time we see you, you justget a little bit better and a
little bit better, a little bittighter and we try and it's
coming.
It's coming along.
Great, I think it's.
It's a unique sound.
What I like about your vocalsis it takes me back to a time of
(04:01):
like dan wyden at the zao, ohyeah, it takes me back to like
suicide silence.
It takes me back to, uh, blackdahlia murder type stuff and I'm
just like you don't hear thatvocally in metal I know like
when I was like, you know,coming of age I guess.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yeah, that was like the style of music I was into.
You know that metalcore like,uh, screamy vocals, yeah, you
know screechy stuff.
It's like I feel like our, ourband, phantom threat, is
musically like very death metaland then like, but with my
vocals it kind of we kind of getlumped into like the death
(04:37):
chord.
You know metalcore a little,you could go all day.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
You find it.
Yeah, yeah, thrash metal orblah blah blah genre, sub-genre
that you fall into.
But, dude, it's fun, it's good,it's tight, your guitar players
are off the chain, bassplayer's good and your drummer
is grade freaking A Absolutely.
I really enjoy seeing him play.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
They're a good group of people to be in a band with.
I'll definitely say that.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah, I think my last podcast with um phantom threat
was with alex.
Alex, yes, and we had a goodtalk and you know it was over
zoom and you're like, hey, I'mgonna come down for this one.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
I was like okay, it's easier in person I think it's.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
It's a lot more fun in person.
But uh, no, we ended updeciding to meet here in
galesburg and kind of splittingthe trip.
And I appreciate that.
Um, but you said you startedoff you grew up muscatine area.
What kind of splitting the trip.
And I appreciate that.
But you said you started offyou grew up in the Muscatine
area.
What kind of stuff were youinto in the early years?
Speaker 2 (05:33):
I mean when I was a kid I wanted to be a
professional basketball player.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Yeah, how'd that go?
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Well, I discovered guitar and marijuana and that
was pretty much the end of mybasketball career.
And marijuana and I, that waspretty much the end of my
basketball career.
Um, but yeah, I guess, uh, Ikind of just I don't know I
naturally kind of migratedtowards music.
You know, I I grew up listeningto a lot of, like, east coast
(06:00):
hip-hop and, uh, west coastgangster rap.
You know, yeah, like that wasmy love and it's still a love of
mine yeah, absolutely but uh, Idon't know that.
From there I just kind of movedinto like listening to like new
metal.
You know it was popular when Iwas in high school and then,
like I don't know, I kind ofjust discovered like the
underground music scene and youwere in the right area to do.
(06:23):
Yeah for sure, like iowa cityarea, like you know, I started
going to shows there as soon asI got my driver's license and it
kind of.
It kind of changes direction.
You know, once I've discovered,oh, there's like an underground
music scene that's doing thingsthat I've never heard before,
like that kind of changed theway.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
You know, I looked at everything, I guess well, it
you differently too, becauseyou're used to hearing something
on the radio, at least growingup, yeah yeah, and especially
like in that time period wherethe Internet wasn't really what
it is today iPods is somethingthe rich kids had.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Yeah, I didn't have an iPod until college you had
MTV2, you know you were lucky.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
And if it was playing any music at the time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But you know, headbangers Ballwas great for stuff like that.
You know it'd throw out somestuff you'd never heard before.
But then you'd go to a placeand you'd see something you'd be
like well, why aren't I hearingthis on the radio?
And it doesn't appeal to a massaudience.
But it's got its own following,its own scene, and it's great.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
And then there's like the energy, you know where you
go to a show and like, forinstance, like I can remember
very vividly going to games andseeing hate breed back in the
day you know, and I was, never ahuge hate breed.
It was like, oh, these are a hit.
This is a heavy band, you know,and the opening bands poison
the well, which I'd never reallylistened to before, and
(07:43):
american nightmare, and Iremember seeing those two bands
and the energy they put off andit it changed the direction that
I was going with, you know.
It was like, oh, this issomething totally different,
like I kind of and gabe's is oneof those venues.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
It's it's like the cbgbs of the midwest almost
sometimes, but it's such a coolvenue.
It's such a cool spot for somany good groups to come through
.
I think in high school when Iwas there um, it was supposed to
be a agony scene, zao show andthey were touring.
We are outdoors, we there was.
(08:21):
It was supposed to be an agonyscene and zao show when we get
there and they both bands hadgotten sick and they'd canceled.
So we ended up listening to acouple uh like local bands and
then, uh, if hope dies playedand they were like super
aggressive metal and that wasgreat.
And then right after them wasfear before the march of Flames.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Oh, I love Fear Before man Love those guys.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
That was something I had never.
Yes, sir, that chaotic subgenreof just wild.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
I was really into that style of music.
Yeah, Like the number 12 lookslike you Huge influence on me.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Bands like the Locust , you know like all those, those
, all those guys that dressed up, didn't they put on the bug
eyes and stuff?
I?
Speaker 2 (09:09):
just uh, I just loved that.
That chaotic, like some of itwas kind of like math core, math
metal, uh, just like unhingedvocals.
I just love that style.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Everything falls together Somewhat like between
the Barry to me type stuff.
Yeah, short of getting gent,yeah.
Absolutely you know it has itsplace too, oh yeah.
When you're, when you'retalking about just a chaotic
metal show, you're not.
You're not thinking of guysstanding there tapping from one
side of the front but it dependson what you're watching or what
(09:44):
you're taking in bands like thechariot, the chariot was one of
my favorites all the time gotto see them in st louis several
years back.
They, uh, um, they played withevergreen terrace.
Oh yeah, oh yeah, down at umthe creepy crawl, when there was
still a creepy crawl in stlouis I think I saw evergreen
terrace in iowa city and maybein Cedar Rapids at a festival
(10:06):
Still one of the best, sickestbreakdowns ever.
They were pretty sick, no,donnie, these days.
So what else do you do besidesscream in a mic and encourage
people to beat the hell out ofeach other?
Speaker 2 (10:22):
I guess a lot of outdoorsy stuff, Camp hunt.
Well, I was talking to Trent.
All that good stuff.
I was talking to Trent Randallon his podcast.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
You were just like dude.
If I knew you guys were goingto talk about deer hunting, I
definitely would have popped onfor a podcast.
I was like well, that's Midwestfat dads, that's what we do we
play metal.
We shoot deer.
We, of course course, eat themabsolutely, and uh, I don't know
.
We work on stuff.
We mow our yards.
It's just what we do.
(10:52):
So do you being in iowa?
that's a one buck state, rightpretty much or, or if you're a
resident or something, I thinkyou can get a second one.
Yeah, but how?
But how long have you beenhunting deer?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Probably since my early 20s.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Did you pick up on that?
My dad hunted a lot.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I mean, I was always around it, but I didn't really
start actively hunting until.
I was probably in my early 20sGotcha yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
The bow hunt or mostly firearm.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
I started off shotgun hunting, hunting, uh, orange
army, oh yeah.
Now I pretty much predominantlymuzzleloader hunt.
Uh, that's the last two years,I think that's all I've shot
deer with this muzzleloader,busted a muzzleloader, that's
nice, I like it.
It's.
Uh, you know you got one shot.
You got to make it count.
Yeah, I like it.
Well, my shotgun, you know yougot one shot.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
You got to make it count.
Yeah, I like it.
Well, my shotgun's an H&R break, so it's like I only get one
shot.
That's all I need with thatdude, that thing's a cannon.
They don't even make themanymore.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
If I'm shotgun hunting, I always use a Mossberg
500.
There you go, Classic, I'm aMossberg guy Well that used to
be the Walmart gun.
Oh yeah, You'd go to.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Walmart and they'd sell the hell out of it.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Indestructible man and their parts forever.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
You know, you can always rebuild one if you have
to, oh yeah, yeah, For 500 bucksyou can get a really good gun
that you can do anything with.
Oh yeah, you know you couldtake that bird hunting, squirrel
hunting, rabbit hunting, deerhunting, turkey Whatever you
wanted with like a Mossberg 500.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Why do I have three of them?
I guess, I don't know.
But one breaks down you needanother.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
It's just you know.
Why do you?
Why do people have 18 guitars?
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Mind your own business.
That's why.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
True story.
But what was this freaking bikeride thing you had going on?
Oh rag bra.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Okay, bike ride across.
Explain yeah, we have a teamthat did it last year and then
we we did it again this year.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
This is a cycling event.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Yeah, by cycling.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Yes, Um, for people that don't know basically the
route changes every year.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Really.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
It always starts on the West side of Iowa and you
dip your tire in the river overthere and then they have a set
route that you ride that goesthrough a whole bunch of little
towns and you ride your bike allthe way across iowa and dip
your tire your tire in themississippi when you're done the
other side, damn how many milesis that it?
(13:21):
Varies.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Uh, this year was, I think, I rode 475 ish miles, how
many miles a day, for how manydays?
I mean, it varies, it's got you.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
It takes an entire week um.
The shortest day this year wasprobably 40 something miles.
The longest day was 90 to 100miles.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Wow, I think the longest day I rode this year was
90 miles well, you were kind oftaking pictures along the way
and trying to take in like thelocal it's a very local
spotlight.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
It's a very cool event, um, you really see, like
small town iowa.
Some of the towns you rollthrough might only have a couple
hundred people that live there,but you know, all of a sudden,
for a couple hours a day, theremight be 10 or 20 000 people to
come and roll through town.
You know, know it's very cool.
I would highly recommendeveryone try it at least once.
(14:14):
It's fun.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Now, was this your first and only time doing it, or
have you done it before?
This was my second year.
Second year doing it?
Yeah, but you said completelydifferent route.
Yeah, gotcha.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Yeah, last year it ended in Davenport and this year
year ended in Burlington.
Okay, but it uh it justdifferent towns every every year
.
You know, do you camp along theway?
Or yeah, um, basically, wewould have a support vehicle.
Uh, I have a Chevy expresscamper van that I built out that
, that was our support vehicle.
(14:45):
We had someone to drive that.
Um, you, basically, you driveout there, there, you set up
your camp, you stay the night.
Day one, you start riding, youtear down your camp, you start
riding, and then there's like ameet-up town in the middle of
the day where you meet back upwith your support vehicle and
you get food or drinks or, youknow, ice or whatever you need,
(15:06):
and then you part ways with themand you ride the route and then
you meet up with them in theend town, set up camp, camp.
Next morning you tear it down,you start riding.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Now they have designated areas for these camps
.
You just find a spot along theroad.
It kind of depends.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
They have designated areas, but there's so many
people and there's so many bigcampers and it's kind of a
free-for-all.
You just try to find the bestplace you can, and that's it was
called.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
What again?
Ragbrai, ragbrai, okay, andthat's a jaunt across iowa every
year, man, every year.
That's crazy.
Was it super hot for you thisyear doing that?
Or there was a couple?
Speaker 2 (15:45):
days that were pretty warm.
Last year was very, very hot.
This year was not quite as hot,but this was the hilliest year
of all time, so it was gottawork out and people think iowa
is completely flat.
But there's parts of iowa thatare not flat at all do you think
on on your route each day?
Speaker 1 (16:04):
how many times you think you stop?
Speaker 2 (16:06):
it varies.
You know, there's like betweentowns there's there's little
places you can stop.
Maybe they have beer tents setup, or there's a lemonade stand,
or you can stop and get a tacoor whatever.
There's plenty of opportunitiesto just stop and pull over.
Sometimes your legs are burningso damn bad that it's like,
(16:28):
okay, well, I'm stopping thenext place.
I see I'm stopping.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Nice.
So did you get started withPhantom Threat when they decided
to start playing, or are youone of the original members of
Phantom Threat?
I guess?
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Yes, Okay cool.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Because I know you've been through a couple drummers
and a few other guys come andgone, but this lineup that I
know of of you guys beentogether at least two years or
so uh, damn, I'm terrible withtime.
Uh, yeah, probably not too butyeah, I would say it was about
this time last year at hilltopand this was the lineup you guys
(17:04):
had.
Yeah, that's true, and it justseems like both your guitar
players compliment each otherwell.
Oh yeah, they shred, andeverything's so low-end that
your high vocals just kind ofputs the icing on the cake.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
I like it that way, you know, and the recordings.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
I think the stuff that you guys have on Spotify is
spot on.
I just think it sounds great.
The cast for Corpse Duty andone of them with the red cover
on it, damn it, I can't everremember all the names of them,
but hell, I'm in the band.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
I can't remember the names of all of them.
You're doing, alright?
Speaker 1 (17:42):
I'm going to pull it up here though, just because I
can hear them in my head.
I just can't remember the titleof the song.
Like I said, I've seen you guyshalf a dozen times, so well, we
kind of do remember the titleof the song that, like I said,
I've seen you guys half a dozentimes, so I will um we kind of
do.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
We do like, when we record we go in and record the
live uh like guitars and drumslive stretch to get scratch
track, yeah, just to get thatdrum track solid, and then kind
of layer everything from there.
There you go.
It's not like a traditionallive recording, but I mean it's.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Go full chariot and do nothing.
Yeah, nothing digital,everything's analog.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
There's aspects that I really like about that you get
a different kind of energydoing it that way.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
The thin crest of an oracle's blood.
That's what I was thinking ofyou know, when I've used your
guys's intro a number of timesfor like background music on on
social media posts.
I like to do that when we gotshows coming up is just use the
band's background music to kindof beef up each post.
And no, I'm excited because youknow frank's the drummer, right
(18:47):
?
Yeah, he's gonna be up theredoing his thing.
You guys are all gonna be downhere.
This show is going to be so oldschool and laid back.
I was talking to Alex about ita little bit and he was just
kind of nervous.
I'm like, dude, this is goingto be the most laid back show
you guys have probably everplayed.
This is going to be an outsidelike metal picnic, so yeah,
it'll be good.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
It'll be good.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
But we were just talking a little bit ago.
You guys just got done withIowa Metal Fest, is that what it
?
Speaker 2 (19:12):
was called and that was in.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Cedar Rapids.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Iowa Metal, underground, underground.
Okay, put that on.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Yeah, and that was Cedar Rapids yeah, it was just
last night and who all played atthat one?
Because that was a sick lineupthere was a lot of bands.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
I'm not going to remember all of Maul Saw, pit
Lord, play Pit Lord, falseProvidence X, cathedral Shit,
I'm gone.
I'll never remember every band.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Iowa Metal Underground.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Yeah, big shout out to those guys.
Frontal Assault Ill Omen.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Ill Omen Pit Lord Fungal Mass played.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Big shout out to Fungal Mass.
Mass leaf was actually one ofthe founding members of phantom
threat okay, brotherhood of theoh, the mudcats that's cool man
a lot of good bands, all thebands, ripped man.
It was like the best, uh, 20 or25 dollars you could spend and
(20:11):
see quality bands.
We were privileged to be a partof it.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Absolutely what went into that?
Just hey, we're interested, andyou just kind of wait and see
what the card's going to be.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Because they're all different.
Yeah Well, with this one, withIowa Metal Underground putting
it on, the guys from FrontalAssault and ill omen are doing
that thing and, like we'veplayed a lot of shows with those
guys, we're, we're gettingclose with those guys.
They're, they're super cooldudes.
They rip, absolutely rip, andso it's like they reached out to
(20:44):
us and got us on it and it was.
We were definitely honored tobe able to play it.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
It was a excellent, excellent time well, I think
you're kind of right in thepocket of like underground iowa
music where you want to be likemuscatine.
You know you're only a couplehours or so jaunt from anywhere
you want to be in iowa and thenyou're less than 30 minutes from
anywhere you want to be in thequad cities.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Yeah, we really don't have much of a scene in
muscatine anymore, but I mean,there's a couple bands still
holding it down.
Shout out to all the muscatinebands.
But uh, you know, like themuscatine scene used to be
pretty thriving back when I wasa young person, you know, right,
it's gotten.
It's kind of, I think it a lackof venues and just there wasn't
(21:26):
that much going on for a longtime and that covid kind of
nixed a lot.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Reset everything a little bit everywhere,
absolutely.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Yeah, we.
You know we're kind of in atriangle of like the quad cities
, burlington, iowa city.
I mean it's a good locationyeah.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
But no, it was a interesting situation Meeting up
with Adam getting associatedwith this place here at the
patio and then just us having asimilar vision of something we
wanted to do out here, and thencoming here for a metal show
where I believe it's again weRise and Obsidian Hammer.
(22:05):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Obsidian Hammer and a handfulof other bands played here that
night.
I was just like we could pack aDTW here like yeah this bad.
You know, let's, let's, let'shave a good ending to the summer
here, because, shit, we're inaugust.
Dude, I know it's hard tobelieve we're already in august,
and you know it's.
It's gonna be a lot of fun, uh,seeing liberty street get back
(22:26):
together and do their thing.
They haven't played in likenine years, wow, you know, and
it's mostly like metal improvtype stuff, which you don't see,
so, but you know they all usedto live together, they all used
to hang out in the house andjust play like all day long, and
that's the kind of stuff that'sthe kind of stuff you want to
see and of course, the boys inwyvern dude I absolutely.
(22:47):
Even if I hated their music likeI would absolutely hang out
with all those guys anytimebecause they're so much fun.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Yeah, they're solid dudes but we played several
shows with them now well, theywere at that um redstone.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
They were at that show they were.
Did they play the same dtw showas you guys did?
I don't think so I think theyplayed.
I think they played the.
Uh, they played the mean green.
The st patty's day we did okayand you guys played the first
one, I believe the raz.
Yes, yeah, so, but now that wasa great night too.
(23:19):
That was you guys.
That was who was on that card.
I want to say post razzle, postad was on that card.
They were on the first twocards.
So, yeah, they were on thatConcrete Sleep came down.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Oh, Die First, I think.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Die First and Concrete Sleep.
That was a good one Shout outto Die First Love, die First man
, and I'm missing on Concretetoo, man.
I love old school hardcore.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Oh yeah, me too.
Man, man and uh, you knowthey're just they're into other
things right now.
So, yeah, I don't blame them atall, but yeah, die first has
been killing it.
Oh yeah, it just I don'tunderstand how they got.
How is there a system out therethat can supply the power to
push what they're doing?
I know they struggled with thata little bit at the, at the
(24:05):
ritz there, because you knowthey weren't getting the output
they wanted, but it's amazing towatch them play and they're
another one that gets bettereach time you see them.
Absolutely, they're solid.
They're solid dudes, good group.
I tried to get them down on thiscard and they just couldn't
swing it, which I get it.
There's another show, and I'mnot too vain or proud to admit
(24:26):
when there's other shows goingon at the same time as us.
But I posted a while back likeum dark surface and Dan Bala and
a handful of like, really goodSpringfield Peoria Like bands
are playing the same day as asus, on the 17th, but they're
playing down in Jacksonville.
So I do encourage you if you'renot feeling the drive to
Galesburg, get your ass toJacksonville and check out that
(24:48):
Cause there's six killer.
Uh, leave them cold.
A hardcore group out of Quincyis going to be on that card and
you know I'm just really excitedfor what those guys are putting
together and that's why I likeabout the DTW shows is trying to
pull bands from differentscenes and trying to put
together a car.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Absolutely, because, like, honestly, like you know,
it's like we're not that farfrom here, or, quincy Right,
there's an untapped market thatwe've never.
We don't know any bands fromthere, you know.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Well, it's so convenient to just have so many
shows in the Quad Cities.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
You can kind of you meet a lot of people that it's
like, oh, we've only lived likea couple of hours from each
other all this time.
We could have been playingshows together.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Yeah Well, that's the one thing in.
Social media is a good thing,absolutely, you know, absolutely
.
But that's that's the thing is.
Do you guys want to drive anhour to get to galesburg or so?
And you know it.
You reach out to some of theother bands that we've had and
be driving two hours or so to goto peoria and play or
jacksonville or springfield andjust kind of get having that
(25:52):
local, that local following,that local scene is huge.
Quad cities has it, peoria hasit, you know Peoria has it.
The Springfield, jacksonvillearea has it.
Bloomington, illinois has it.
And then Iowa city, cedar,Rapids, St Louis and then how
(26:15):
many like amazing death metalgroups are within the state of
Wisconsin.
Yeah, you know, and I know thatI know there's some guys in
Quincy and Quad Cities that areworking to pull a lot of those
bands down to do that and it'slike dude, cross paths, like
network make it work.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
And because like you know it's, I'm a fan of all
heavy music.
You know like, I like deathmetal, I like technical metal, I
like grindcore, I like hardcore, I like all you know.
Right, there's a place for allheavy music.
And it's like it's cool whenyou can kind of get shows that
cross over.
(26:52):
It's like okay, we're fiveheavy bands, but we're all
playing a little bit your ownstyle.
You know, I I like that.
I mean, that's kind of the wayit was.
So when I was coming up it waslike you would go see like a
metal band and there'd probablybe a hardcore band opening for
hardcore band or, vice versa,punk band or alternative rock
band or an indie band.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
you know there's a little bit less of that now, I
think, just because it seemslike the older we got the sounds
would kind of stay within theirown collectives.
But I think we work a littlebit harder to kind of cross the
genres a little bit.
That's what the Timberfestfestivals that we had down by
(27:34):
Macomb A lot of those people arefree spirit.
You know bluegrass, acoustic,you know just indie type, band
type stuff, and then we wouldend the night with God War or
somebody you know.
And then everybody was superinto it and it's not something
(27:55):
you can explain to somebodyuntil they've been to one of
those shows.
It might not be something youflip on on the radio, but when
you go out there and just loseyour mind for a little bit, it's
a whole different ball of wax.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Yeah, and I think with the internet, with
streaming services, as much aspeople hate on streaming
services like it's- it's here.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
You know it's not going anywhere.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
It, uh it.
It kind of forces you to have amore open mind towards music,
because you're exposed to somuch different music that you
would have never heard before.
You know like people are are.
People are more open to otherstyles of music as long as it's
creative, and you know peopleare putting something into it,
like like seeing a bluegrassband, like I love like a lot of
(28:42):
that traditional roots music.
You know I, yeah I dig it, I digit a lot.
But uh, it's like you know, you, you you can look at a
technical death metal band andyou can look at somebody in one
of those bands shredding on anacoustic or a mandolin.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Or a banjo, and it's like oh, these dudes are all
shredding, it's just one ofthem's not plugged into a
pedalboard.
Yeah, we talked about that onone podcast too.
It's just like they're doingthe same thing.
They're sweep, picking ondifferent stuff and they're just
calling it something else, butat the end of the day, like
talent's talent, you know, andit's amazing um, and I I can't
imagine how boring life would beif I only listened to one style
(29:21):
of music.
Absolutely, I just can't, I'mnot I'm not wired that way,
gotta have.
And well, to me it's justdifferent moods, or where I'm at
in my day, or where I'm at inmy head, and you know, know what
.
What am I trying to accomplishhere, for sure, am I trying to
chill out?
Am I trying to beef up?
You know what's going on.
Am I trying to ride my bikeacross to Iowa?
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Yeah, well, I'm sure that like you've got a like what
kind of stuff goes into aplaylist for that?
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Um mostly house music , mostly techno techno like Um
mostly house music, mostlytechno techno like high BPM
techno.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Okay, so like, uh, so so like the background music of
your own bike writing video Forsure.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
For sure, I'm a bad ass, which I listen to a lot of
that style of music anyway whenI'm not riding a bike, but like
it's uh to me personally, youwant like a high bpm music, just
to you know, kind of keep youin the groove, keep you pedaling
so what is it that uh, a leadvocalist of uh phantom threat,
(30:26):
does for a living?
well, uh, the majority of myadult life I worked in the
plastics industry as amaintenance mechanic or
maintenance lead, or I did a lotof work in tool and dye.
This was the last year.
I took a job as a field servicetechnician for a corporation
(30:46):
that maintains and repairshospital equipment, and so I
travel around to differenthospitals and just work on
sterilization and washingequipment for surgical tools and
robotic arms.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
So you've gotten to see lots of interesting.
It's interesting.
It's definitely interesting.
My wife works in um histologyso I get to hear about all the
things that are you know, I meanwithin um.
You know no names or anything,obviously, but uh, she's always
(31:26):
telling me you know, had a boobcome down to me or someone's leg
or you know an eyeball, youknow whatever they had to remove
.
They send to her and she getsthe dice up and put it in on
slides for the, for thepathologist to.
You know, see wild, wild job.
And it's just like how am Imarried to this woman?
She goes and she chops up bodyparts and she comes home and
(31:50):
just acts like the sweetestperson on earth.
But I punch out and that's it.
But then again I was the likethe crankiest person in the
world doing pest control, youknow, on the daily, and then I'd
come home and have to check outof that and be dad or be
husband and stuff, and it's noteasy sometimes.
But how far out do they get youtraveling to do that job?
Speaker 2 (32:11):
I'm mostly in the Iowa city, Cedar Rapids area for
the most part.
Occasionally I have to travelother places, but not a whole
lot.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Like a week or two type job, or when you go do
those or showing up to fixsomething.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Well, most of my travel is like for training.
They have a extensive trainingprogram that I had to go out to
Ohio for for a couple of weeksOkay, A couple of times now.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Take your bike, or I did, I did, I did a lot, you did
ride your bike clear out there.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
I did some bike training out there.
I took it with me.
I didn't ride it all the wayout there.
Okay, that's what I was gettingat.
I was like what did you?
Speaker 1 (32:55):
none of us, not yet, not yet.
How long have you been doing?
Speaker 2 (32:56):
the bike deal, or just riding, or is that just
something you've always did?
I I would not consider myself acyclist.
I basically train on my bikefor this one specific week-long
ride every year, and I'm I'm notlike a cyclist, but I am an
adventure enthusiast, sure.
So that's kind of like the ragride.
Adventure draws me in.
So riding a bike.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
I've only ridden my bike once since I got back so
well, I'm sure you need a littletime to decompress from some of
that, so, but you know, ridinga bike, shooting deer playing in
a metal band.
I don't know anything, anythingmuch more Midwest than that.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
I mean, you know, work, a full-time job, wife and
kids.
Nope, nope, neither, just doyour own thing.
Yes, sir, that's nothing wrongwith that.
So what else is on the spectrum?
You guys, I'm sure, have got afew shows lined up ready to go
out and play.
Yes, we are playing the showhere.
(33:52):
That's our next show, yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
And then after that we are playing in Iowa City with
Nervosa.
Then we are playing in IowaCity with Goat Whore, which will
be an awesome, awesome show.
That's at Gabe's Okay.
Beyond that, I think we havesome other shows booked, but I
don't remember what they areoffhand.
(34:14):
Uh, we'll be going in andrecording a new ep at flat black
studio with luke tweedy at theend of this month, so hopefully
there'll be some, some freshmusic to stream looks like you
got something the iowa city show.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
That's october 17th.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's.
That's gonna be at wildwood,which, after talking to alex, he
says that's one of your guys'sfavorite places to play.
Yeah, that's October 17th.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that'sgonna be at Wildwood, which,
after talking to Alex, he saysthat's one of your guys favorite
places to play.
Yeah, that's with ingestedthat'll be a good show it looks
like the Iowa Metal Undergrounddid a really good video of you
guys there at the Redstone room.
(34:47):
I thought about nabbing it butI'm like I'm not gonna take
somebody else's stuff you know,looks like it's coming along
nicely.
You guys are playing a lot,you're recording when you want
to or need to and just trying tomake it work as a bunch of
grown dudes.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Yeah, we're just trying to keep progressing with
it.
You know it's you get out of itwhat you put into it.
So, absolutely, we try to putit, we try to put a lot into it.
It's rewarding.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
I love that how often do you guys practice Every
Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Every Wednesday, there you go, and that helps
when it's on a reoccurring deal,Because then it's like this is
what we do on Wednesdays.
I don't have any plans onWednesdays ever.
I'm already booked, so justhead there after work and do
your thing and you guys writingmuch new stuff or you said
you're getting ready to record.
We've got a lot of stuff comingdown the pipes.
(35:40):
That's going to be, I think,hopefully a level of brutality
that we haven't had beforetapping into some darkness.
I think the new, the newmaterial is going to be very, uh
, eye-opening to people.
I hope gotcha, I hope we'll see.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Yeah, maybe not, you never know cool, you got
anything else you want to chatabout, or a big shout out to
iowa metal underground forputting on that show last night.
Uh, killer time yeah, I wishthere was more of that, just the
festivals, and I know thatquincy had one.
Um, uh, tim gale over atmidwest monster promotions.
(36:22):
He did a, he did one.
He's big on like having a bunchof local bands and then a cover
band at the end of the night.
Is kind of how he likes to runhis promotions and his
productions.
And I think yesterday wasnativity and sabbath, so like a
black sabbath type cover band,and today today is the second
day of it and I think they'rehaving like a limp biscuit cover
(36:43):
band.
Oh my god which I I can?
I can get down some biscuit dude.
You know you start getting intothe scene.
You're like I don't listen toanything on the radio.
You know tough guy andeverything.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
But then years later, limp Bizkit's having that
resurgence right now, man.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
It's crazy seeing what they're doing.
It's crazy Original members andall just.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Another whole generation listened to them and
that generation had kids, andnow their kids are starting to
listen to them and they're like,oh okay, I get biscuit.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
All I wanted was a Pepsi, I get it now it's wild,
it's wild.
I'm going to go watch a.
I'm going to go watch adocumentary on Woodstock 99 and
see how this turns out.
No, they've calmed down quite abit, which they needed to, and
but it's good for, like you said, the resurgence that they're
(37:33):
having.
It's just, you know, I it's.
It's funny you talk to peoplethat were back in the day like
well, it's, you know, it's notseen.
I'm not listening to that andlike now I'm meeting them all at
either blimp biscuit shows orwe're all just like dude.
I've always loved slipknot, Ijust didn't ever want to admit
it in front of people.
But you know, you grow up andyou learn and it's all good
(37:56):
stuff.
Man, I appreciate you comingdown.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
Hell yeah, I appreciate you having us, I
appreciate you putting us onthese shows.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
It's going to be a really, really dope show.
I'm really excited for it.
Are they open?
Not yet for it, not yet.
It sounds like the owner, adam,just got here.
Awesome, so probably a goodtime to end August 17th here at
(38:27):
the patio in Galesburg.
You're going to see PhantomThreat.
You're going to get to meetthis guy, zachary.
You're going to meet Alexlex,frank, all the guys, and gonna,
uh, meet the boys from wyvern.
Gonna get to see liberty streetdo their thing again for the
first time in almost a decadeand, um, get here, do your thing
.
Um, hey, you wait a minute,we're closing shit down.
(38:51):
You calm down.
Hey, hey, who owns this place?
I do now fool.
All right, come here, listen tothem, buy their merch.
Thanks again for coming,appreciate you, and we'll call
that a podcast thanks, soundsgood.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Thank you Outro.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Music.
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