April 10, 2025 • 37 mins
Tim Goehl's story is one of redemption through amplifiers and power chords. After spending 22 years in Austin where his band Carbide nearly signed to Prosthetic Records before addiction derailed his dreams, Tim found himself back in Quincy, Illinois with a clean slate and a commitment to sobriety.
When he arrived three and a half years ago, the local music scene was virtually nonexistent. A chance encounter with an old friend's touring band needing a show sparked what would become Midwest Monster Promotions—a labor of love that has now produced over 35 events and breathed life into a dormant musical community. "I turned my addiction from drugs to music," Tim shares, "because when I tried to do both, the drugs took the music away from me."
Now working at a drug rehabilitation center by day while promoting shows and playing in five different bands by night (including his "stoner core" outfit Juggernaut Agenda), Tim has discovered that his second chance at music is sweeter than the first. He's built a DIY empire complete with handmade stages, local business sponsorships, and connections to bands from New York to Indiana. His upcoming fourth annual Metal Fest will feature 22 bands over two days, showcasing the incredible talent he believes is overlooked simply because of geography.
Whether you're a metal enthusiast or simply appreciate stories of transformation and perseverance, check out Timothy's band Juggernaut Agenda this Saturday in Macomb, IL with Sustenance and Pursuit. Witness firsthand how one man's commitment to sobriety and music is reshaping the cultural landscape of the Midwest, one power chord at a time.
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Speaker 2 (00:46):
Here we go, another Dial the Wild episode.
This one's pretty cool becauseI actually get to talk to a
fellow promoter, mr Timothy Gale.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
What's up y'all how?
Speaker 2 (00:59):
y'all doing tonight?
What's up, man?
What's up?
How's the world of Quincy?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
It's busy man.
What's up?
How's the world of Quincy?
It's busy man.
I'm a busy guy with a lot ofinterests man, and you know I
got a full-time job and a sidehustle and I'm in five different
bands and I do the promoting.
And it's a wild life, man, butit keeps me busy, it keeps me
out of trouble.
You know what I mean.
Absolutely you know what I mean.
(01:29):
Like you know, I mean music ispretty much my only vice.
So uh, uh, it keeps me prettyhealthy, if you know what I mean
.
It's like my, my mental therapy, my mental health depends on
whether or not I'm creatingmusic and throwing shows, and I
get a lot of support from mywife.
She totally understands that.
So, uh, it is what it is.
You know what I mean.
But I like to stay busy and Ilike to do what I got to do to
make sure that there's some livemusic around here, because when
I moved here three and a halfyears ago there wasn't hardly
(01:50):
nothing.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
No, it was a little bit further back when I lived in
Quincy and it was next tonothing.
I mean, it was a lot of youknow, a lot of cover bands and
stuff at the local bars orsomething, but there wasn't
really like a healthy creativemusic scene at the time.
I didn't think yeah, there is.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Now, though, man it's coming around for sure yeah, we
, we've cultivated some coolstuff over the last three years,
man, and I remember when Ifirst started doing this and and
, uh, we started posting videosof the events, man, there was a
lot of people who were like god.
God man, I haven't been on stage, and you know, 10 years and I
really like to get back on stageagain.
(02:31):
And almost all the people thatwere talking that way are in
bands now and they're doing thething, and you know, and, and
it's just, and I and I'm nottrying to say that I'm
responsible for that but Idefinitely planted, planted that
seed.
You know what I mean.
And gave, gave, gave, gavethese people an outlet, some
hope.
You know what I mean.
Oh, my God, there's a guythat's that's putting on shows
again and you know, give themhope to do it that one last time
(02:55):
or however long they need to doit.
You know what I mean like youknow all the music's about just
the woes of being an old man butjust still rocking out.
You know I plan on taking it tothe grave man.
(03:16):
It's just how I roll, man.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
So absolutely, and uh , so we're going to be having
you guys in your one of yourfive bands, um.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Juggernaut Agenda Amen, that's my main band,
that's my baby.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
And that's coming to McComb here this Saturday to
play with Sustenance and Pursuit.
I've been talking to those guysand listening to their stuff
and I don't know how they'veslipped below the radar as long
as they have, because it's solidstuff.
Yeah, they're just so good.
I gotta see you play uh deadserious.
I gotta see you play uh thepantera cover band.
(03:51):
Which one?
What were they called?
What are they called?
Stronger than all stronger?
Speaker 1 (03:56):
than all that's right .
Yeah, and with those, withthose, with those same cats, I
have another project callednativity and sabbath.
That's uh, we do like yeah, wedo like a real heavy version of
the sabbath songs.
Um, and then I, and then I'malso in a caius cover band nice
most people don't know who caiusis, but to me they're the
greatest band to ever walk theearth.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
So sure, yeah, I mean it's, it's pretty cool to see
how it's grown.
I, I, I think two years ago Iwent to one of your productions,
saturday Eagles, and it was agood production, um.
But each time I've been back,uh, I think I've been to three
of your shows over there Iplayed in.
One of them was Zodiac killers.
(04:36):
That was a good show, and then,uh, the next one I went to was
also really really good, andthen the next one I went to was
also really really good, andthey get a little bit better
each time.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yeah, man, this last one, I had the Crossover Fest.
Man, it was packed and I hadrappers and heavy metal people
all on the same stage and theheadlining band was this band
called.
They Were Legends and they werelike an acoustic, hip-hop, live
music, and it was just like itwas so eclectic and like the mix
was went.
We had, like I said, deathmetal bands and rappers and and
(05:08):
this live hip-hop band.
It was just phenomenal.
They were legends out of stlouis.
I highly recommend them.
Uh, but you know, I like to keepit fresh.
I like, I like to, I like toexpress all, all, all the genres
of music that I like.
Sometimes I mix them together,generally I keep them apart, but
, uh, you know, I like to tryand bring what I can to Quincy
(05:30):
and people do come out, man, andI've I've never had what I
would think to be a notsuccessful event.
You know what I mean, cause Idon't do it to make money.
I don't base this on how muchmoney I make and I'm I got a big
, soft heart.
If a band comes from like StLouis or something, st Louis or
something, they bring 10 peoplewith them.
You know what I mean.
I'll let them all in for free,man.
You know what I mean, and I maynot make a lot of money at the
door, but there's always a lotof people at the shows, man, and
it just.
You know, I've been to shows inSt Louis that didn't have as
(05:52):
many people as some of myproductions, man, and I'm
talking about for nationallytouring acts.
You know what I mean, so yeah,absolutely no.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
It's a really good area because you're just far
enough but close enough toeverybody and everything being
in Quincy.
So you moved back to the Quincyarea here what you said three
years ago three and a half yearsago.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Yeah, man, I spent 22 years in Austin, texas.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
And, uh, I was in a band down there called carbide C
, a, r, b, I, d, e and uh, wewere like we were about to be
the next big thing, like we hada we had a deal with with
prosthetic and we were about togo on tour with every time I die
and at that time in my life Ihad a drug problem.
And uh, uh, the Austin policedepartment had a different, had
(06:39):
a different, uh, idea of what myfuture looked like.
Uh, I ended up getting in a lotof trouble and all that just
crumbled apart.
And you know you can look upcarbide music, austin texas on
youtube and you can see me frontin a band with, like, every
time we took the stage we soldout the place.
You know what I mean.
It was, uh, it was awesome, butthat was.
But that's like my.
So and not only with that bandI was in, you know, because
(07:00):
everybody knows that I have apast and I've been clean for a
really long time and you'refairly open about that, yeah.
You know I mean I work in a drugrehab.
That's my, my, my W2 job is Iwork overnight in a drug rehab.
You know I'm on the front lineshelping people beat the
addiction.
That I beat, man, it ispossible.
You know what I mean.
And I literally turned myaddiction from drugs to music
(07:21):
because I tried to.
When I tried to do both, thedrugs took the music away from
me.
So, uh, and I was right there,man, I'm like I don't know if
I'll send you a link after thepodcast, absolutely, yeah.
Yeah, you know it's uh, it'sincredible and I, I'm all
shredded with a big pink Mohawkand like, and it was, it was
really awesome, man, but, um, itdidn't work out.
You know what I mean.
(07:41):
But like, looking back on thattoo, I think if that would have
worked out, I wouldn't have whatI have now.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
You know what I mean, Like I wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
I wouldn't have this three-year-old and Quincy
wouldn't have a music scene.
And yeah, I may have been arock star, but I also might be
dead by now.
You know what I mean, cause ifI would have became, if I would
have became a, I would have, Iwould have wanted to celebrate
my success and it probably wouldhave killed me.
You know what I mean.
So, uh, all in God's time youknow it put me in the right
(08:11):
place at the right time.
And now, now, being clean andsober, I'm writing the best
music I've ever written in mylife.
And, uh, when I moved back toQuincy three and a half years
ago, I got a son, like I said,he's three and um, that was the
catalyst for me and my wife.
Both of us, we were both had adrug problem and that was the
catalyst for us getting cleanand and and.
Once we'd been clean about ayear, I was like you know, babe,
(08:32):
I'd really like to get backinto music.
And and, uh, there was reallynowhere to play around here at
the time and so, uh, I juststarted putting a scene together
, man and uh, uh, other man anduh, some friends of mine were on
tour from, uh, texas calledpigweed.
Shout out pigweed.
Yeah, they had a.
They had a tour date drop off.
And they were like, hey, man,can you get us a show anywhere
in your area?
And I got a hold of the statestreet theater and and it was
(08:54):
like a wednesday night and and I, they out of that blossomed the
very first midwest monspromotions event.
And uh, that was uh.
I was in a band with a bunch ofteenage kids called, uh, violent
og or something like that, ororiginal violence.
It was nathan winkler.
I was gonna shout out nathanwinkler.
He was like 16 years old.
In high school I ran into him,uh, uh, at south park during the
(09:17):
winter time, we were sledriding and uh, he was like you
gotta check out my band, bro.
And I was like, well, youshould check out my band.
And he's like, will you be thesinger of my band?
I'm like, dude, I'm 46 yearsold, you're 16.
He was like I don't give a fuckwhat you're doing anyway, and
so and so, but that.
But that moment on that hill inin the winter of of of 2022 or
(09:38):
2021, um, midwest monster wasborn, man.
And it was really strange howit all happened, because I
wanted to play music so bad andI couldn't find anybody that I
was willing to play with thesethree teenagers.
You know what I mean.
That's how bad.
I wanted to play and I lookedpretty cool.
I had like foot-long Libertyspikes.
I was trying to look all youngand shit, but we killed it, you
(10:00):
know.
And Pigweed came up here and wehad a really good show.
Like 60 people showed up on aWednesday night, that's wild.
Yeah, yeah.
And it was the start ofsomething really beautiful, man.
And here we are, 35 eventslater.
You know I'm about to throw thebiggest event I've ever thrown
in my life.
You know, it's like 22 bandsover two days.
You know, all professionalsounding lights and it's just,
(10:23):
and and these are some of thebest underground artists from
New York, St Louis, Indiana, Imean in the tri-state area, I
mean I'm talking about thesebands should all be being played
on liquid metal every day.
Yeah, I agree, Eventually Iwant to take Midwest monster
promotions and I want to start alabel, a Midwest monster label,
(10:44):
to where I just want to start awebsite, to where, like all you
know, you don't have to be onmy label.
It's not like I'm going to signyou or anything, but if you want
to put your music on my websiteand be a part of the Midwest
Monster label, then you knowlike we can promote it from
there and like I think that likethere's a huge hub of amazing
metal bands, they're justgetting overlooked because
(11:05):
they're in the Midwest.
You know what I mean.
Like it's been kind of drownedout since Slipknot.
You know what I mean.
They did their thing andeverybody kind of forgot about
the Midwest after that but, likethat particular moment in time
spawned a metal scene in theMidwest.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
That is just incredible, man, and I'm trying
to expose it at all costs youknow, and shout out to people
like tattoo baby that's tryingto do it with their absolutely
shout out tattoo.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Baby, that's my home girl man.
Yeah, we share the same passion.
Matter of fact, we're playingpeoria at the 420 fest the
weekend after we're playingthat's right.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Playing with, uh, genly rise, aren't you?
Yeah, yep, yep, yep.
I think hell kaiser and acouple others are playing yeah,
yeah, it's going to be a sickshow man.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
And we got a sweet spot, dude.
They put us right in the middleof all the bands.
Shout out to Again we Rise.
They've always been on a classact man.
They were always real good tous.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
They're kind of the kind of the OGs around here at
this point as far as Peoria areaand playing metal shows and
stuff.
There was a few bands I knowwere around before pandemic that
are still around.
You know, what I mean.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
So they're they're they.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
They've been dedicated to it for a while, but
the saying that you're puttingon this fourth annual metal fest
, uh, you know January is agreat band out of your area, um,
born of decay.
You know January's a great bandout of your area, born of Decay
.
I've had them at one of myproductions.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Yeah, they're incredible.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
One of these has Born of Decay on it.
Yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Dead serious, the Born of Decay drummer and I used
to Dead serious man.
He's a phenomenal drummer.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
They have bag runs doing cool stuff.
Leave them cold.
Dude.
The slam core that they do isamazing yeah, I love Chris.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Chris is a good friend of mine now.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Dan, bala and Kyle and them guys are good guys we
played a New Year's Eve party inPeoria for.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Chris DeBlade played that one too it was Tattoo
baby's birthday, yeah, and theywere there.
Oh yeah, that's right.
Yeah, I remember that.
That, that that in Sabaner dude, I was like I got to get you on
the metal fest, them guys areincredible.
Every band that played thatnight was incredible, but they
really was.
I was just like.
I was like jaw slack, jaw slack, open mouth like god man.
(13:24):
And I was like you know, andpeople are like, why do you book
so many bands at your metalfest?
Because bands always drop off.
That's why that's why, and so Itold him.
I was like it's inevitable,there's gonna be a band drop off
.
And the very next day intrusiveminds hit me up and they're
like, hey, man, we won pointfast or whatever and we're not
gonna be able to play thatweekend.
So I bumped everybody up and Iput in Sabaner in there and
(13:45):
they're going to get to play too, and I gave the because I had
Intrusive Minds in a really,really good spot.
Shout out to them out of StLouis.
They're incredible.
But I gave that slot to Again,we Rise now and it's going to be
a great day, man.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
All the bands playing both those days are just
unbelievable when you've donethis enough I won't say as long
as we've done it, because I'veonly been promoting shows for
the last couple of years.
You've been doing it.
But anybody that's been aroundthis long enough knows if you
don't have a backup plan, onceyou're slapped in the face
you're going to be in trouble,whether it's hey, someone
(14:21):
dropped off, dude, I'm not gonnalie.
I'm on my third sound guy forthis show in the last.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
I'm very blessed.
I'm very blessed.
Shout out sean major here incanada.
Uh, I mean it's pricey, butit's so worth it.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
You know what I mean we got adam, uh adam, all over
over here at the, at the musicshop here in theomb.
He's going to be doing thesound which, now that we've got
our local guitar shop involved,I'm feeling a lot better about
it.
Now you know it's yeah, squareMusic Company.
Why couldn't that come to mymind?
(14:55):
But yeah, adam and the guys atSquare Music, just a classic.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
You got a Square Music in Macomb too.
Yes, sir, yeah, they sponsorall my bands here in Quincy.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Yup Good folks, yup Good folks.
So, yeah, it's going to be goodnight and, uh, really looking
forward to I don't know that.
I've, yeah, I heard thejuggernaut, the um, at that
tattoo baby show.
Yeah, you guys got kind of aheavy rock it's, it's we.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
What do you call it straight straight up stoner
metal man.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
It's straight down her mouth.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Nice sludgy stoner metal yeah, we, we kind of, we
kind of developed our own, ourown terminology, for we call it
stoner core yeah, it's well, mybuddy and I, when we're working
on twist the blade stuff, wepeople ask us what it is.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Yeah, I, I call it party metal, he calls it, he
doesn't call it it.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
I know we, I think we settled on thrash core, so yeah
, uh, you know, shout out togreg milton from bag where man,
he, he, he told me he's like man.
You guys, to me are pureamerican metal and I thought I
mean, I know lamb of god goes bypure american metal.
But that was one of the bestcompliments I ever got.
Man was like is that?
You know, the juggernaut agendais 30 years of of all my
(16:08):
influences.
You know what I mean like and Iand I incorporate everything
that's ever influenced me to bewho I am, from caius to
sepultura, from slayer to youknow, whatever corn you know,
it's all represented in ourmusic man and and um and just a
little over a year we've wrote17 songs, man, and just like,
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the creative process with thejuggernaut agenda has just been
this most creative thing I'veever experienced in my life, and
I think a big part of that, ofcourse, is having a clear mind
and and uh.
And also the first time ever inmy life, I played guitar and
sang at the same time.
I played guitar in a lot ofbands, I sang in a lot of bands,
but I used to always tellmyself I can't do both, I can't
do both.
I've tried, I can't do it.
But when I moved to Quincy, itbecame a necessity because I
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couldn't find anybody to playwith.
I couldn't find anybody to playwith, I couldn't find anybody
to sing for.
So and then I got with JohnBevis and that was how we
started Dead Serious.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
That's awesome.
Yeah, it's still going.
I mean, you guys, you weretalking about how like you guys
were in bands, Now you're bothin in in different groups now,
but you're still.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
There've been so many branch offs from from the
musicians.
You know, uh, hollow point,facelift.
They were.
They were a band that wasspawned up out of this scene
that are all really really closefriends of mine.
Everybody in that band justwanted to play music again and
and when I put the scenetogether, they kept running into
each other at the shows andnext thing, you know, boom,
hollow point, facelift who'sthat?
Speaker 2 (17:36):
who's that bass player for hollow point?
That's jesse.
He's the most metal kid ever ohmy gosh two years brian two
years ago when so one of yourshows there at the eagles, this
kid's got like spikes fromwrists, the shoulder all the way
up each side.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
They weren't spikes, they were nails and screws.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Oh my god yeah, that was, that was so cool.
He's sitting here.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
He's like he's at home with this.
He's at home with a screw gunand a nailer and a hammer.
He's just got a piece ofleather and he just I love that
kid there.
He's the most method person onthe planet, bro he's cool as
hell.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
I, yeah, he's a lot of fun to be around and it was
cool because he he shows up, uh,there at the at the peoria show
and he's he's talking, like gotthis Korean made bass.
He's thinking he's like it'sthe coolest thing I've ever seen
and, yada, yada.
I'm like, dude, I am so excitedthat you're so excited about
this bass, because this isawesome.
So, yeah, he's a cool kid.
(18:35):
There's a lot of cool cats overthere.
They're on the river where youguys home and you know it sounds
like there's some stuff youknow popping around.
Uh, hannibal, don't you got acouple of bands over that
direction that pop?
Yeah, uh, yeah there.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
There are a couple of bands over there.
There's a lot of bands thatthat, like I like.
Um, my other band violent.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Christ, he drives over.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
You know, I mean, like there's a lot of cross
musicians from hannibal andquincy and I know I know a lot
of people that like come fromkeokuk and shit and play in
bands in quincy.
You know, oh yeah, it's just,uh, the shortage of musicians in
this area it creates, uh, theneed for people to play in
multiple bands you know what Imean stronger than on and
nativity and sabbath.
(19:20):
They're out of st louis.
You know, I mean I travel everyother Sunday all the way to St
Louis to practice with them.
You know what I mean.
My other three bands are basedout of Quincy, but I'm about to
branch off my, my promoting intoSt Louis.
Just, it's kind of I'm kind oftrying to get into a bigger
market, a bigger scene.
I got my first experiment withthat coming up in august.
(19:42):
I don't have a date yet, butI'm kind of I'm kind of excited
about that branch it off into abigger city.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
So you guys got a play down there.
Uh, red flag, didn't you?
Yeah, we did we played heretwice.
That'd be such an experience.
Such an experience, yeah, to godown there and check that place
off.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
I can't wait to play pops.
Man, we, I.
We were supposed to play popsthis year at the, at the,
supposed to play Pops this yearat the Road to Point Fest, and
they sent me an email invitationand I missed it.
By the time I saw it, they hadalready filled all the slots and
, man, I was so bummed out.
I want to play Pops.
So bad bro.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
I've seen so many good bands at Pops so many good
bands at Pops.
I've seen Azalea dying at Pops.
I saw Haste the Day at Pops.
Every time I at Pops in StLouis Saturday.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Saturday.
Yeah, when I seen Entheos there, they had these bass drops that
I thought my, I was scared formy life for a second, like I
could feel my innards vibrating.
I could feel my chest and myheart like, like stressed,
because these bass drops werejust the sound system.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
there is just incredible man it's great and I
like, I like how zach sabbaththere.
That was awesome the uh, therailing along the top there.
You know, as a kid I'd like toobviously be down in the pit and
do my thing, but then you getthese.
Yeah, I'd either get tired or,now that I'm old, I just go to
the railing now and sit down andI can just take in a show
(21:04):
without some idiot knocking mybeer over.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
You know, so I'll be 51 in may, I still get in the
pit.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
I don't know what's wrong with me, bro it's a I
don't know like I I gotta be, Igotta feel, I gotta be feeling
it at this point, just because,yeah, I know it's gonna hurt the
one that starts to pit bro.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
People are like who is this old school cat?
What is this problem?
And I got a bum leg so I'm likehitting on one leg, doing this
weird kick thing with my otherleg so it doesn't have to touch
the ground.
I could pit on one leg, bro.
It's hilarious.
But if the band is that good, Ican't help it.
You know what I mean.
Like right I.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
I gotta be right frame of mind because I'm
thinking to myself the wholetime.
This is going to hurt tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Man, I trained pretty hard anyway, so I stayed.
For a 50 year old, I stay inpretty good shape, man.
I, I, I, I, I.
I stay pretty fit man.
I don't really feel the.
So there has been a few timeswhere I got knocked on my ass
and bruised my tailbone shit.
Oh, that's rough.
I wanted, I wanted to talk alittle bit about Go for it.
Go for it Cause I got promisesunsaid from New York.
(22:10):
If you haven't listened to them,they're like this metal core
band that has like these MichaelJackson and chorus lines and,
uh, shout out, caleb on said,like he's, like, he has, like he
literally has a voice, he has aclean voice like Michael
Jackson, and then his growl islike a straight demon.
It's like the most extreme, themost extreme ends of the
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spectrum and like and they'rejust so tight.
This will be the third timethey've came from New York to
play the Metal Fest and if youwant you know you want to hear
some really unique originalstuff, check out promises on
said online.
They got a bunch of realprofessional.
There's super pro, pro band,like they got their shit
together.
All their videos are superprofessionally done, all the
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recordings professionally done.
And there's another band comingfrom Indiana called bury the
coffin.
It's called bury the coffin.
It's just really, reallyawesome man.
So, uh, you know, if you'relike, oh, I don't want to drive
in an hour to quincy, rememberthese, these bands came from new
york and indiana, so get inyour car, drive the hour, pay
the 15, enjoy yourself.
(23:15):
You're gonna love it, I promise.
And what's, uh, what's the dateon that metal fest?
Speaker 2 (23:19):
april 25th, and 26th okay yeah yeah, two-day deal
yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm insane, Iknow but I'm doing stuff, you
know, and what we found with thevenue that we got, because
you've got to have, like I'vegot a few sponsors that I shout
out and that help pay the bills,um, but once you make it a door
(23:43):
, it has to help cover what youdidn't get help with and then
hopefully go towards the nextone.
So well, my door money usuallybarely covers my sound advice
yeah, well you, you go all outon your salmon lights and
luckily, like I said, I've got alittle bit of help there now.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
So usually that whatever bands I have guarantees
with, that usually comes out ofmy pocket, uh, but I don't mind
.
You know what I mean.
I used to spend thousands ofdollars on drugs and, um, now
I'm using man and throwingevents and and, uh, it's, it's
worth it to me.
You know people are like that's.
Another reason too, why Ibooked so many bands is because
(24:22):
I like a lot of people to bethere.
Man, if you got 10 bands on thebill and they all bring one,
you know that's 100 people rightthere.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely they'replus ones.
You know I, that's a hundredpeople right there.
Yeah, absolutely, they're plusones.
You know what I mean.
So it's going to be packed ifyou and if you stay on the ball
and you, you know that's theonly time ever in my promoting
I'm kind of like an enforcers.
I get it that in between setsI'm like cracking that whip man,
(24:46):
break that shit down, shut thatshit up.
You know what I mean.
Like you gotta, you gotta, keepeverybody in line, keep
everything.
I've had a few events runbehind like two hours and it was
a nightmare.
Man, like I was kind of offdoing my own thing, I wasn't
really paying attention to thetime slots and everybody was
playing over and then it was anightmare.
So now I I've learned mylessons the hard way on that
kind of stuff, you know yeah, soyeah I've had that, that
(25:09):
particular event.
My headliner was 800 bucks.
He went on two hours late.
There was like 12 people there.
You know what I mean, becauseit was like 12 30 at night and
quincy's are asleep, bro.
Maybe try, ozzy, shout outslossy killer giants, uh.
But you know, uh, that'sanother thing I do every year.
I do a sloss fest.
Uh got five tribute bands thatyou would have seen at oz fest
(25:30):
and a couple of locals.
That's a pretty cool thing too.
But when you're talking fivetribute bands, that's expensive
as a band man, because that's,yeah, those guys, those guys all
want, you know those guys allwant to be paid.
You know they don't.
Uh, I feel bad because myband's shout out stronger than
all.
Uh, we don't hardly ever getpaid because I'm in that band.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
So yeah, yeah, but it's.
It's cool that, uh, you use theconnections.
You know whether it be thesponsors, whether it be the
venues.
Um, you know your sound, peopleand yeah, I got and I do.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
I got some great sponsors shout out to fifth
street tattoo, two Ted's shirtshack and a square music company
.
Uh, my two buddies own thetattoo shops man and, and they
did, they really helped me withmy marketing and stuff and we'll
have giveaways at the events,give away free tattoos and stuff
like that and and it reallyhelps draw people out and gives
people and then, like I'll do,I'll raffle off tickets for not
(26:28):
a free, not a free tattoo, butI'll sell raffle tickets for,
you know, get like a $100 tattoofor five bucks or whatever.
And that also helps me pay mybottom line and helps me pay my
bills and you know, on thoseevents.
But you know, overall, over thelast three and a half years
I've spent about 30 grandthrowing events.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
But, like you said, that's better than the
alternative.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Yeah, man, I spent 100 grand on drugs the last six
months I was getting high.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
So 30 grand on music over three years ain't nothing
yeah, but the uh, yeah, we'regonna have nomad tattoo there.
They're gonna be giving awaysome tattoos while we're there
and uh, yeah, I'm, I'm excitedabout it.
Uh, they're, they're reallytalented bunch and and they
enjoy metal music, so that helpsand I got.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
I got my stage aesthetic girl dialed in now too
, with my mask and everything.
I'm on 150 watt black lot to my, to my light, to my music and
dude, let's talk about meshowing up to one of your shows.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
I think it was the one I played with Zodiac.
I'd show up and you'reunderneath the stage with a
power drill.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Yeah, that was the first time I'd ever built that
stage and it needed someadjusting and a little love,
tender love and care.
Yeah, because that's the thingout at eagles alps is they don't
have a stage.
You know what they do, but it'sat the other end of the
building.
It's real small.
Yeah, so my family, they, theyrun the eagles alps and they're
(27:59):
like if you want to build yourown stage, that's fine, but
you've got to tear it down.
So I gotta, I gotta, uh 12, a12 by 12 by 20 stage that I have
set up and tore down 11 timesand the top of it gets pretty
war.
I've, really I've resurfaced it.
Now it's got two layers andit's it's perfectly sturdy Now
it'll withhold anything now.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
But yeah, I swear you had a.
You had a piece of plywoodpushed up and, like you're
shoving these screws fromunderneath and I'm just standing
there watching the whole time,Like that's exactly where I'm
going to be standing the wholetime.
And you made it All right.
Hey, I made it.
I did.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
I made sure, you heard.
I'm a professional carpenter,in my, in my, in my hustle.
So before I started workingwith the juggery habits, all
they ever did, my whole life wascarpentry, so I mean building
up wooden stage.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Shit for me.
Yeah, and I'm concerned, shoutout to you because you, you
finished up.
Uh, you finished up a degree toto get that job, didn't you
this last?
Speaker 1 (28:57):
year over at john wood.
Yep, I sure did.
I went from uh being a junkieto a college graduate in a
little under three years.
So it's just a matter ofwillingness.
You know what I mean oh yeah,it's, it's a matter of
willingness to.
You know, want to be clean andwant to stay clean, and that's
what it is.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Well, I'm sure that when you first started talking
to your wife about going backinto music, like, there was
probably concern there, like,well, this is where you had a
lot of your issues before, sogoing back to that.
Are you going to do this in ahealthy manner, or is it going
to bring you right back to whereyou were when you started?
Speaker 1 (29:36):
The biggest thing about that is is I was at that
level to where we were about toblow up and my meth addiction.
I mean, I worked my whole lifefor that moment and the meth
took all that away from me.
And so like, first of all, it'sa miracle that I even have a
second chance.
That's a miracle in itself,thank god, man.
(29:58):
Second chance like I I'vealready done that, you know.
I mean like, like I've beendown that road.
I played that tape all the waythrough whenever it crosses my
mind.
You know I mean here you are nowin another band that's just as
good as the one you had beforeand had, because, old man, metal
is kind of a thing right now.
You know, you got like maxcavalera and all these guys,
billy milano, they're all.
They're all still touring,they're like pushing 60.
(30:20):
You know what I mean, and andand so like there's a market for
it.
You know there's there's amarket for, you know, gen x,
motherfuckers that still loveheavy shit, and um and so, uh,
uh.
I feel that if I still, even at50 years old, have an
opportunity to play sold outshows and it be a nationwide
name, you know, at least on thelevel of like high on fire.
(30:43):
You know what I mean.
Like I think if we, if we wouldget a tour with like high on
fire, we'd be, we'd blow upright after that, because them
dudes sell out every show man,they're on tour with acid bath
right now and, uh, our music isvery comparable.
You know what I mean.
So, uh, I'm confident that oncewe have enough uh material for
our epk and get the whole thingwrapped up in a package and
(31:05):
start putting it out there, Ithink that I'm gonna have an
opportunity to tour with somepretty big names, because I
still have those connections too.
You know the connections that Imade in 2008, 2009, when I, when
I was on prosthetic and and andall and all, all of the glory
that I had back then with myband Carbide, when I relapsed
and I lost everything.
(31:25):
Then people were like hey, whenyou get your shit straight, let
me know.
You know what I mean.
Like you're a liability rightnow.
We don't want to work for youright now, but when you get your
shit straight, let me know.
So I still have all thosethings that are available to me
as long as I keep my shitstraight, and so keeping my shit
straight is the number onepriority in my life, because
just having this opportunity ingeneral is a miracle all in
(31:47):
itself.
You know what I mean.
So I'm not going to squandertwo opportunities in one life.
It's just not an option.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Well, in being where we're at.
I won't call myself a promoter,but it is what it is.
Just being where we're at ismore than us wanting to see
ourselves be successful.
I want to see my homies besuccessful like right now you
know, we we had a little turmoilwith our band not turmoil but
(32:15):
we had a guy step down and wehaven't been able to play.
And I, I can sit and sulk aboutthat forever and just say, well
, I'm done, I'm gonna sell allmy shit or I can see my homies
win and I can keep setting upshows.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
So it's all just a matter of you know how you don't
have to play and sing at thesame time shit man, I could
barely play, so I could barelysing.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
So putting those two together makes me a quarter.
That takes away a lot moreability, but it is no, it's,
it's very it's's about gettingtogether, it's about a community
.
It's about, you know, liftingpeople up.
You know, in some instancesit's about you know.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
I felt like.
I felt like, too that when Istarted this scene in Quincy man
, I was going to give all thelocal bands a platform to like,
hone their skills you know whatI mean Like, um, and and give
them some hope as to you know,because, like I said, I would
like to start this conglomeratetype of thing to where, like any
midwest band that wants to be apart of it, you know, and then
I can start pushing the websitenationwide.
(33:19):
Hey look, what y'all aremissing out on on the midwest.
You know, or even have like aspotify with just all these
bands you know as potifyplaylists with, with all these
midwest bands that are justreally on a national level.
Man, and you know and shouldhave that opportunity, and even
nowadays, if you get big onsomething you know, you can get
big online and not even reallyhave to tour and make money.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
So no, no, and that's that's.
That's been a thing in the last10 years is.
I mean, there's some of thesebands that never even get
together or play together.
They just send each othersamples.
It's crazy, um, but yeah, let'suh.
So where can we find you onsocials?
Where can we find you online?
Speaker 1 (34:01):
uh, you can look at.
You just look up midwestmonster promo on facebook,
tiktok, instagram, youtube andthen um, the juggerna Agenda is
on Facebook and on YouTube.
It's Midwest TGA on YouTube,but that's about it.
Those are all my socials.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Okay, and you know, if you're in a band and you want
somewhere to play, give Tim aholler.
We've got more connections thanthan we can really use at this
point, whether they want to cometo quincy or macomb we got.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Yeah, I'm, uh, I'm not booking anything right now,
till after august, but uh, Iwill put the word out when, when
I start uh, it's time to fillthem slots yeah, yeah, yeah.
It never takes long, but I, Iput out, I put out a couple
shout outs and it's like yeahyeah, there's people out there
that want to play and it's likeyou know, and I'm honest with
all, unless they come right newyork, of course, like those guys
(34:57):
, I have I have a guarantee withthem because they come all the
way from new york.
You know, I mean gosh and Ihave, I have a guarantee with
them.
But most of the local bands I'mlike look, if everybody does
their job and 200 people show upand I make $4,000 at the door,
then everybody's going to getpaid.
But if only, you know, 50people show up and I'm going to
have to cover my expenses and weall played for free and
everybody's cool with that.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
So yeah, and that's just how it is.
I mean, it don't matter whereyou're at, but I, if it's always
an amazing opportunity tonetwork.
Yes, Because that's what I wasabout to.
That's what I was about to.
To get on there was like, evenif I don't have an event coming
up or tim doesn't have an eventcoming, we got homies in the
quad cities peoria, springfield,yeah the juggernaut.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
The juggernaut agenda is actually going to new york
in may to play shows with mybuddy, bonus.
Shout out, bonus, that was therapper that came down for
crossover fest.
And then we're playing in troy,new york, with bonus and a
couple other metal bands andanother rapper.
And then the next night we'replaying in binghamton, new york,
with promises unsaid and theirhome turf and I've been watching
their videos on their home turf.
(36:01):
It's gonna be wild, bro, likethey're pretty big on their home
turf.
So we're super excited aboutthat.
And uh, shout out, I'm lookingfor a show on the way back, like
in Cincinnati, and one inChicago on the 25th and 26th of
May.
So if anybody knows anybody outthere, let me know.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Let it be heard.
All right, man.
Well, I appreciate your time.
Yeah, and getting reallyexcited for the show this
weekend.
It just always seems like it'sit's falling apart until it
starts to come together.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
You got to keep going forward, man.
Backward.
There ain't, there ain't nohonor in walking backwards.
You just got to keep walkingforward, man.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
You got to.
You got to push that depressionkitty off and then keep rolling
.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Yeah, Make it your bitch period in a sentence
that's that's all right, man.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Well, we'll keep at it.
We'll see you saturday.
Along with uh, sustenance andpursuit, that's gonna be a
killer show dude, have somefaces come out, show up.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
uh, it's gonna be a spectacle, a sight to see, and
the music's gonna be pretty damncool too.
So we're looking forward tocoming to melt in your face for
45 minutes.
So we'll see you there Allright, Sounds good man.
Thanks guys, see you bud Later.
Bye-bye.
Here we go, another Dial the Wild episode.
This one's pretty cool becauseI actually get to talk to a
fellow promoter, mr Timothy Gale.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
What's up y'all how?
Speaker 2 (00:59):
y'all doing tonight?
What's up, man?
What's up?
How's the world of Quincy?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
It's busy man.
What's up?
How's the world of Quincy?
It's busy man.
I'm a busy guy with a lot ofinterests man, and you know I
got a full-time job and a sidehustle and I'm in five different
bands and I do the promoting.
And it's a wild life, man, butit keeps me busy, it keeps me
out of trouble.
You know what I mean.
Absolutely you know what I mean.
(01:29):
Like you know, I mean music ispretty much my only vice.
So uh, uh, it keeps me prettyhealthy, if you know what I mean
.
It's like my, my mental therapy, my mental health depends on
whether or not I'm creatingmusic and throwing shows, and I
get a lot of support from mywife.
She totally understands that.
So, uh, it is what it is.
You know what I mean.
But I like to stay busy and Ilike to do what I got to do to
make sure that there's some livemusic around here, because when
I moved here three and a halfyears ago there wasn't hardly
(01:50):
nothing.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
No, it was a little bit further back when I lived in
Quincy and it was next tonothing.
I mean, it was a lot of youknow, a lot of cover bands and
stuff at the local bars orsomething, but there wasn't
really like a healthy creativemusic scene at the time.
I didn't think yeah, there is.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Now, though, man it's coming around for sure yeah, we
, we've cultivated some coolstuff over the last three years,
man, and I remember when Ifirst started doing this and and
, uh, we started posting videosof the events, man, there was a
lot of people who were like god.
God man, I haven't been on stage, and you know, 10 years and I
really like to get back on stageagain.
(02:31):
And almost all the people thatwere talking that way are in
bands now and they're doing thething, and you know, and, and
it's just, and I and I'm nottrying to say that I'm
responsible for that but Idefinitely planted, planted that
seed.
You know what I mean.
And gave, gave, gave, gavethese people an outlet, some
hope.
You know what I mean.
Oh, my God, there's a guythat's that's putting on shows
again and you know, give themhope to do it that one last time
(02:55):
or however long they need to doit.
You know what I mean like youknow all the music's about just
the woes of being an old man butjust still rocking out.
You know I plan on taking it tothe grave man.
(03:16):
It's just how I roll, man.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
So absolutely, and uh , so we're going to be having
you guys in your one of yourfive bands, um.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Juggernaut Agenda Amen, that's my main band,
that's my baby.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
And that's coming to McComb here this Saturday to
play with Sustenance and Pursuit.
I've been talking to those guysand listening to their stuff
and I don't know how they'veslipped below the radar as long
as they have, because it's solidstuff.
Yeah, they're just so good.
I gotta see you play uh deadserious.
I gotta see you play uh thepantera cover band.
(03:51):
Which one?
What were they called?
What are they called?
Stronger than all stronger?
Speaker 1 (03:56):
than all that's right .
Yeah, and with those, withthose, with those same cats, I
have another project callednativity and sabbath.
That's uh, we do like yeah, wedo like a real heavy version of
the sabbath songs.
Um, and then I, and then I'malso in a caius cover band nice
most people don't know who caiusis, but to me they're the
greatest band to ever walk theearth.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
So sure, yeah, I mean it's, it's pretty cool to see
how it's grown.
I, I, I think two years ago Iwent to one of your productions,
saturday Eagles, and it was agood production, um.
But each time I've been back,uh, I think I've been to three
of your shows over there Iplayed in.
One of them was Zodiac killers.
(04:36):
That was a good show, and then,uh, the next one I went to was
also really really good, andthen the next one I went to was
also really really good, andthey get a little bit better
each time.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yeah, man, this last one, I had the Crossover Fest.
Man, it was packed and I hadrappers and heavy metal people
all on the same stage and theheadlining band was this band
called.
They Were Legends and they werelike an acoustic, hip-hop, live
music, and it was just like itwas so eclectic and like the mix
was went.
We had, like I said, deathmetal bands and rappers and and
(05:08):
this live hip-hop band.
It was just phenomenal.
They were legends out of stlouis.
I highly recommend them.
Uh, but you know, I like to keepit fresh.
I like, I like to, I like toexpress all, all, all the genres
of music that I like.
Sometimes I mix them together,generally I keep them apart, but
, uh, you know, I like to tryand bring what I can to Quincy
(05:30):
and people do come out, man, andI've I've never had what I
would think to be a notsuccessful event.
You know what I mean, cause Idon't do it to make money.
I don't base this on how muchmoney I make and I'm I got a big
, soft heart.
If a band comes from like StLouis or something, st Louis or
something, they bring 10 peoplewith them.
You know what I mean.
I'll let them all in for free,man.
You know what I mean, and I maynot make a lot of money at the
door, but there's always a lotof people at the shows, man, and
it just.
You know, I've been to shows inSt Louis that didn't have as
(05:52):
many people as some of myproductions, man, and I'm
talking about for nationallytouring acts.
You know what I mean, so yeah,absolutely no.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
It's a really good area because you're just far
enough but close enough toeverybody and everything being
in Quincy.
So you moved back to the Quincyarea here what you said three
years ago three and a half yearsago.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Yeah, man, I spent 22 years in Austin, texas.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
And, uh, I was in a band down there called carbide C
, a, r, b, I, d, e and uh, wewere like we were about to be
the next big thing, like we hada we had a deal with with
prosthetic and we were about togo on tour with every time I die
and at that time in my life Ihad a drug problem.
And uh, uh, the Austin policedepartment had a different, had
(06:39):
a different, uh, idea of what myfuture looked like.
Uh, I ended up getting in a lotof trouble and all that just
crumbled apart.
And you know you can look upcarbide music, austin texas on
youtube and you can see me frontin a band with, like, every
time we took the stage we soldout the place.
You know what I mean.
It was, uh, it was awesome, butthat was.
But that's like my.
So and not only with that bandI was in, you know, because
(07:00):
everybody knows that I have apast and I've been clean for a
really long time and you'refairly open about that, yeah.
You know I mean I work in a drugrehab.
That's my, my, my W2 job is Iwork overnight in a drug rehab.
You know I'm on the front lineshelping people beat the
addiction.
That I beat, man, it ispossible.
You know what I mean.
And I literally turned myaddiction from drugs to music
(07:21):
because I tried to.
When I tried to do both, thedrugs took the music away from
me.
So, uh, and I was right there,man, I'm like I don't know if
I'll send you a link after thepodcast, absolutely, yeah.
Yeah, you know it's uh, it'sincredible and I, I'm all
shredded with a big pink Mohawkand like, and it was, it was
really awesome, man, but, um, itdidn't work out.
You know what I mean.
(07:41):
But like, looking back on thattoo, I think if that would have
worked out, I wouldn't have whatI have now.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
You know what I mean, Like I wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
I wouldn't have this three-year-old and Quincy
wouldn't have a music scene.
And yeah, I may have been arock star, but I also might be
dead by now.
You know what I mean, cause ifI would have became, if I would
have became a, I would have, Iwould have wanted to celebrate
my success and it probably wouldhave killed me.
You know what I mean.
So, uh, all in God's time youknow it put me in the right
(08:11):
place at the right time.
And now, now, being clean andsober, I'm writing the best
music I've ever written in mylife.
And, uh, when I moved back toQuincy three and a half years
ago, I got a son, like I said,he's three and um, that was the
catalyst for me and my wife.
Both of us, we were both had adrug problem and that was the
catalyst for us getting cleanand and and.
Once we'd been clean about ayear, I was like you know, babe,
(08:32):
I'd really like to get backinto music.
And and, uh, there was reallynowhere to play around here at
the time and so, uh, I juststarted putting a scene together
, man and uh, uh, other man anduh, some friends of mine were on
tour from, uh, texas calledpigweed.
Shout out pigweed.
Yeah, they had a.
They had a tour date drop off.
And they were like, hey, man,can you get us a show anywhere
in your area?
And I got a hold of the statestreet theater and and it was
(08:54):
like a wednesday night and and I, they out of that blossomed the
very first midwest monspromotions event.
And uh, that was uh.
I was in a band with a bunch ofteenage kids called, uh, violent
og or something like that, ororiginal violence.
It was nathan winkler.
I was gonna shout out nathanwinkler.
He was like 16 years old.
In high school I ran into him,uh, uh, at south park during the
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winter time, we were sledriding and uh, he was like you
gotta check out my band, bro.
And I was like, well, youshould check out my band.
And he's like, will you be thesinger of my band?
I'm like, dude, I'm 46 yearsold, you're 16.
He was like I don't give a fuckwhat you're doing anyway, and
so and so, but that.
But that moment on that hill inin the winter of of of 2022 or
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2021, um, midwest monster wasborn, man.
And it was really strange howit all happened, because I
wanted to play music so bad andI couldn't find anybody that I
was willing to play with thesethree teenagers.
You know what I mean.
That's how bad.
I wanted to play and I lookedpretty cool.
I had like foot-long Libertyspikes.
I was trying to look all youngand shit, but we killed it, you
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know.
And Pigweed came up here and wehad a really good show.
Like 60 people showed up on aWednesday night, that's wild.
Yeah, yeah.
And it was the start ofsomething really beautiful, man.
And here we are, 35 eventslater.
You know I'm about to throw thebiggest event I've ever thrown
in my life.
You know, it's like 22 bandsover two days.
You know, all professionalsounding lights and it's just,
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and and these are some of thebest underground artists from
New York, St Louis, Indiana, Imean in the tri-state area, I
mean I'm talking about thesebands should all be being played
on liquid metal every day.
Yeah, I agree, Eventually Iwant to take Midwest monster
promotions and I want to start alabel, a Midwest monster label,
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to where I just want to start awebsite, to where, like all you
know, you don't have to be onmy label.
It's not like I'm going to signyou or anything, but if you want
to put your music on my websiteand be a part of the Midwest
Monster label, then you knowlike we can promote it from
there and like I think that likethere's a huge hub of amazing
metal bands, they're justgetting overlooked because
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they're in the Midwest.
You know what I mean.
Like it's been kind of drownedout since Slipknot.
You know what I mean.
They did their thing andeverybody kind of forgot about
the Midwest after that but, likethat particular moment in time
spawned a metal scene in theMidwest.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
That is just incredible, man, and I'm trying
to expose it at all costs youknow, and shout out to people
like tattoo baby that's tryingto do it with their absolutely
shout out tattoo.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Baby, that's my home girl man.
Yeah, we share the same passion.
Matter of fact, we're playingpeoria at the 420 fest the
weekend after we're playingthat's right.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Playing with, uh, genly rise, aren't you?
Yeah, yep, yep, yep.
I think hell kaiser and acouple others are playing yeah,
yeah, it's going to be a sickshow man.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
And we got a sweet spot, dude.
They put us right in the middleof all the bands.
Shout out to Again we Rise.
They've always been on a classact man.
They were always real good tous.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
They're kind of the kind of the OGs around here at
this point as far as Peoria areaand playing metal shows and
stuff.
There was a few bands I knowwere around before pandemic that
are still around.
You know, what I mean.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
So they're they're they.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
They've been dedicated to it for a while, but
the saying that you're puttingon this fourth annual metal fest
, uh, you know January is agreat band out of your area, um,
born of decay.
You know January's a great bandout of your area, born of Decay
.
I've had them at one of myproductions.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Yeah, they're incredible.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
One of these has Born of Decay on it.
Yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Dead serious, the Born of Decay drummer and I used
to Dead serious man.
He's a phenomenal drummer.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
They have bag runs doing cool stuff.
Leave them cold.
Dude.
The slam core that they do isamazing yeah, I love Chris.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Chris is a good friend of mine now.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Dan, bala and Kyle and them guys are good guys we
played a New Year's Eve party inPeoria for.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Chris DeBlade played that one too it was Tattoo
baby's birthday, yeah, and theywere there.
Oh yeah, that's right.
Yeah, I remember that.
That, that that in Sabaner dude, I was like I got to get you on
the metal fest, them guys areincredible.
Every band that played thatnight was incredible, but they
really was.
I was just like.
I was like jaw slack, jaw slack, open mouth like god man.
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And I was like you know, andpeople are like, why do you book
so many bands at your metalfest?
Because bands always drop off.
That's why that's why, and so Itold him.
I was like it's inevitable,there's gonna be a band drop off
.
And the very next day intrusiveminds hit me up and they're
like, hey, man, we won pointfast or whatever and we're not
gonna be able to play thatweekend.
So I bumped everybody up and Iput in Sabaner in there and
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they're going to get to play too, and I gave the because I had
Intrusive Minds in a really,really good spot.
Shout out to them out of StLouis.
They're incredible.
But I gave that slot to Again,we Rise now and it's going to be
a great day, man.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
All the bands playing both those days are just
unbelievable when you've donethis enough I won't say as long
as we've done it, because I'veonly been promoting shows for
the last couple of years.
You've been doing it.
But anybody that's been aroundthis long enough knows if you
don't have a backup plan, onceyou're slapped in the face
you're going to be in trouble,whether it's hey, someone
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dropped off, dude, I'm not gonnalie.
I'm on my third sound guy forthis show in the last.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
I'm very blessed.
I'm very blessed.
Shout out sean major here incanada.
Uh, I mean it's pricey, butit's so worth it.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
You know what I mean we got adam, uh adam, all over
over here at the, at the musicshop here in theomb.
He's going to be doing thesound which, now that we've got
our local guitar shop involved,I'm feeling a lot better about
it.
Now you know it's yeah, squareMusic Company.
Why couldn't that come to mymind?
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But yeah, adam and the guys atSquare Music, just a classic.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
You got a Square Music in Macomb too.
Yes, sir, yeah, they sponsorall my bands here in Quincy.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Yup Good folks, yup Good folks.
So, yeah, it's going to be goodnight and, uh, really looking
forward to I don't know that.
I've, yeah, I heard thejuggernaut, the um, at that
tattoo baby show.
Yeah, you guys got kind of aheavy rock it's, it's we.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
What do you call it straight straight up stoner
metal man.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
It's straight down her mouth.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Nice sludgy stoner metal yeah, we, we kind of, we
kind of developed our own, ourown terminology, for we call it
stoner core yeah, it's well, mybuddy and I, when we're working
on twist the blade stuff, wepeople ask us what it is.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Yeah, I, I call it party metal, he calls it, he
doesn't call it it.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
I know we, I think we settled on thrash core, so yeah
, uh, you know, shout out togreg milton from bag where man,
he, he, he told me he's like man.
You guys, to me are pureamerican metal and I thought I
mean, I know lamb of god goes bypure american metal.
But that was one of the bestcompliments I ever got.
Man was like is that?
You know, the juggernaut agendais 30 years of of all my
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influences.
You know what I mean like and Iand I incorporate everything
that's ever influenced me to bewho I am, from caius to
sepultura, from slayer to youknow, whatever corn you know,
it's all represented in ourmusic man and and um and just a
little over a year we've wrote17 songs, man, and just like,
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the creative process with thejuggernaut agenda has just been
this most creative thing I'veever experienced in my life, and
I think a big part of that, ofcourse, is having a clear mind
and and uh.
And also the first time ever inmy life, I played guitar and
sang at the same time.
I played guitar in a lot ofbands, I sang in a lot of bands,
but I used to always tellmyself I can't do both, I can't
do both.
I've tried, I can't do it.
But when I moved to Quincy, itbecame a necessity because I
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couldn't find anybody to playwith.
I couldn't find anybody to playwith, I couldn't find anybody
to sing for.
So and then I got with JohnBevis and that was how we
started Dead Serious.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
That's awesome.
Yeah, it's still going.
I mean, you guys, you weretalking about how like you guys
were in bands, Now you're bothin in in different groups now,
but you're still.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
There've been so many branch offs from from the
musicians.
You know, uh, hollow point,facelift.
They were.
They were a band that wasspawned up out of this scene
that are all really really closefriends of mine.
Everybody in that band justwanted to play music again and
and when I put the scenetogether, they kept running into
each other at the shows andnext thing, you know, boom,
hollow point, facelift who'sthat?
Speaker 2 (17:36):
who's that bass player for hollow point?
That's jesse.
He's the most metal kid ever ohmy gosh two years brian two
years ago when so one of yourshows there at the eagles, this
kid's got like spikes fromwrists, the shoulder all the way
up each side.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
They weren't spikes, they were nails and screws.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Oh my god yeah, that was, that was so cool.
He's sitting here.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
He's like he's at home with this.
He's at home with a screw gunand a nailer and a hammer.
He's just got a piece ofleather and he just I love that
kid there.
He's the most method person onthe planet, bro he's cool as
hell.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
I, yeah, he's a lot of fun to be around and it was
cool because he he shows up, uh,there at the at the peoria show
and he's he's talking, like gotthis Korean made bass.
He's thinking he's like it'sthe coolest thing I've ever seen
and, yada, yada.
I'm like, dude, I am so excitedthat you're so excited about
this bass, because this isawesome.
So, yeah, he's a cool kid.
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There's a lot of cool cats overthere.
They're on the river where youguys home and you know it sounds
like there's some stuff youknow popping around.
Uh, hannibal, don't you got acouple of bands over that
direction that pop?
Yeah, uh, yeah there.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
There are a couple of bands over there.
There's a lot of bands thatthat, like I like.
Um, my other band violent.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Christ, he drives over.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
You know, I mean, like there's a lot of cross
musicians from hannibal andquincy and I know I know a lot
of people that like come fromkeokuk and shit and play in
bands in quincy.
You know, oh yeah, it's just,uh, the shortage of musicians in
this area it creates, uh, theneed for people to play in
multiple bands you know what Imean stronger than on and
nativity and sabbath.
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They're out of st louis.
You know, I mean I travel everyother Sunday all the way to St
Louis to practice with them.
You know what I mean.
My other three bands are basedout of Quincy, but I'm about to
branch off my, my promoting intoSt Louis.
Just, it's kind of I'm kind oftrying to get into a bigger
market, a bigger scene.
I got my first experiment withthat coming up in august.
(19:42):
I don't have a date yet, butI'm kind of I'm kind of excited
about that branch it off into abigger city.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
So you guys got a play down there.
Uh, red flag, didn't you?
Yeah, we did we played heretwice.
That'd be such an experience.
Such an experience, yeah, to godown there and check that place
off.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
I can't wait to play pops.
Man, we, I.
We were supposed to play popsthis year at the, at the,
supposed to play Pops this yearat the Road to Point Fest, and
they sent me an email invitationand I missed it.
By the time I saw it, they hadalready filled all the slots and
, man, I was so bummed out.
I want to play Pops.
So bad bro.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
I've seen so many good bands at Pops so many good
bands at Pops.
I've seen Azalea dying at Pops.
I saw Haste the Day at Pops.
Every time I at Pops in StLouis Saturday.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Saturday.
Yeah, when I seen Entheos there, they had these bass drops that
I thought my, I was scared formy life for a second, like I
could feel my innards vibrating.
I could feel my chest and myheart like, like stressed,
because these bass drops werejust the sound system.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
there is just incredible man it's great and I
like, I like how zach sabbaththere.
That was awesome the uh, therailing along the top there.
You know, as a kid I'd like toobviously be down in the pit and
do my thing, but then you getthese.
Yeah, I'd either get tired or,now that I'm old, I just go to
the railing now and sit down andI can just take in a show
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without some idiot knocking mybeer over.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
You know, so I'll be 51 in may, I still get in the
pit.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
I don't know what's wrong with me, bro it's a I
don't know like I I gotta be, Igotta feel, I gotta be feeling
it at this point, just because,yeah, I know it's gonna hurt the
one that starts to pit bro.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
People are like who is this old school cat?
What is this problem?
And I got a bum leg so I'm likehitting on one leg, doing this
weird kick thing with my otherleg so it doesn't have to touch
the ground.
I could pit on one leg, bro.
It's hilarious.
But if the band is that good, Ican't help it.
You know what I mean.
Like right I.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
I gotta be right frame of mind because I'm
thinking to myself the wholetime.
This is going to hurt tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Man, I trained pretty hard anyway, so I stayed.
For a 50 year old, I stay inpretty good shape, man.
I, I, I, I, I.
I stay pretty fit man.
I don't really feel the.
So there has been a few timeswhere I got knocked on my ass
and bruised my tailbone shit.
Oh, that's rough.
I wanted, I wanted to talk alittle bit about Go for it.
Go for it Cause I got promisesunsaid from New York.
(22:10):
If you haven't listened to them,they're like this metal core
band that has like these MichaelJackson and chorus lines and,
uh, shout out, caleb on said,like he's, like, he has, like he
literally has a voice, he has aclean voice like Michael
Jackson, and then his growl islike a straight demon.
It's like the most extreme, themost extreme ends of the
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spectrum and like and they'rejust so tight.
This will be the third timethey've came from New York to
play the Metal Fest and if youwant you know you want to hear
some really unique originalstuff, check out promises on
said online.
They got a bunch of realprofessional.
There's super pro, pro band,like they got their shit
together.
All their videos are superprofessionally done, all the
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recordings professionally done.
And there's another band comingfrom Indiana called bury the
coffin.
It's called bury the coffin.
It's just really, reallyawesome man.
So, uh, you know, if you'relike, oh, I don't want to drive
in an hour to quincy, rememberthese, these bands came from new
york and indiana, so get inyour car, drive the hour, pay
the 15, enjoy yourself.
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You're gonna love it, I promise.
And what's, uh, what's the dateon that metal fest?
Speaker 2 (23:19):
april 25th, and 26th okay yeah yeah, two-day deal
yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm insane, Iknow but I'm doing stuff, you
know, and what we found with thevenue that we got, because
you've got to have, like I'vegot a few sponsors that I shout
out and that help pay the bills,um, but once you make it a door
(23:43):
, it has to help cover what youdidn't get help with and then
hopefully go towards the nextone.
So well, my door money usuallybarely covers my sound advice
yeah, well you, you go all outon your salmon lights and
luckily, like I said, I've got alittle bit of help there now.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
So usually that whatever bands I have guarantees
with, that usually comes out ofmy pocket, uh, but I don't mind
.
You know what I mean.
I used to spend thousands ofdollars on drugs and, um, now
I'm using man and throwingevents and and, uh, it's, it's
worth it to me.
You know people are like that's.
Another reason too, why Ibooked so many bands is because
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I like a lot of people to bethere.
Man, if you got 10 bands on thebill and they all bring one,
you know that's 100 people rightthere.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely they'replus ones.
You know I, that's a hundredpeople right there.
Yeah, absolutely, they're plusones.
You know what I mean.
So it's going to be packed ifyou and if you stay on the ball
and you, you know that's theonly time ever in my promoting
I'm kind of like an enforcers.
I get it that in between setsI'm like cracking that whip man,
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break that shit down, shut thatshit up.
You know what I mean.
Like you gotta, you gotta, keepeverybody in line, keep
everything.
I've had a few events runbehind like two hours and it was
a nightmare.
Man, like I was kind of offdoing my own thing, I wasn't
really paying attention to thetime slots and everybody was
playing over and then it was anightmare.
So now I I've learned mylessons the hard way on that
kind of stuff, you know yeah, soyeah I've had that, that
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particular event.
My headliner was 800 bucks.
He went on two hours late.
There was like 12 people there.
You know what I mean, becauseit was like 12 30 at night and
quincy's are asleep, bro.
Maybe try, ozzy, shout outslossy killer giants, uh.
But you know, uh, that'sanother thing I do every year.
I do a sloss fest.
Uh got five tribute bands thatyou would have seen at oz fest
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and a couple of locals.
That's a pretty cool thing too.
But when you're talking fivetribute bands, that's expensive
as a band man, because that's,yeah, those guys, those guys all
want, you know those guys allwant to be paid.
You know they don't.
Uh, I feel bad because myband's shout out stronger than
all.
Uh, we don't hardly ever getpaid because I'm in that band.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
So yeah, yeah, but it's.
It's cool that, uh, you use theconnections.
You know whether it be thesponsors, whether it be the
venues.
Um, you know your sound, peopleand yeah, I got and I do.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
I got some great sponsors shout out to fifth
street tattoo, two Ted's shirtshack and a square music company
.
Uh, my two buddies own thetattoo shops man and, and they
did, they really helped me withmy marketing and stuff and we'll
have giveaways at the events,give away free tattoos and stuff
like that and and it reallyhelps draw people out and gives
people and then, like I'll do,I'll raffle off tickets for not
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a free, not a free tattoo, butI'll sell raffle tickets for,
you know, get like a $100 tattoofor five bucks or whatever.
And that also helps me pay mybottom line and helps me pay my
bills and you know, on thoseevents.
But you know, overall, over thelast three and a half years
I've spent about 30 grandthrowing events.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
But, like you said, that's better than the
alternative.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Yeah, man, I spent 100 grand on drugs the last six
months I was getting high.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
So 30 grand on music over three years ain't nothing
yeah, but the uh, yeah, we'regonna have nomad tattoo there.
They're gonna be giving awaysome tattoos while we're there
and uh, yeah, I'm, I'm excitedabout it.
Uh, they're, they're reallytalented bunch and and they
enjoy metal music, so that helpsand I got.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
I got my stage aesthetic girl dialed in now too
, with my mask and everything.
I'm on 150 watt black lot to my, to my light, to my music and
dude, let's talk about meshowing up to one of your shows.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
I think it was the one I played with Zodiac.
I'd show up and you'reunderneath the stage with a
power drill.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Yeah, that was the first time I'd ever built that
stage and it needed someadjusting and a little love,
tender love and care.
Yeah, because that's the thingout at eagles alps is they don't
have a stage.
You know what they do, but it'sat the other end of the
building.
It's real small.
Yeah, so my family, they, theyrun the eagles alps and they're
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like if you want to build yourown stage, that's fine, but
you've got to tear it down.
So I gotta, I gotta, uh 12, a12 by 12 by 20 stage that I have
set up and tore down 11 timesand the top of it gets pretty
war.
I've, really I've resurfaced it.
Now it's got two layers andit's it's perfectly sturdy Now
it'll withhold anything now.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
But yeah, I swear you had a.
You had a piece of plywoodpushed up and, like you're
shoving these screws fromunderneath and I'm just standing
there watching the whole time,Like that's exactly where I'm
going to be standing the wholetime.
And you made it All right.
Hey, I made it.
I did.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
I made sure, you heard.
I'm a professional carpenter,in my, in my, in my hustle.
So before I started workingwith the juggery habits, all
they ever did, my whole life wascarpentry, so I mean building
up wooden stage.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Shit for me.
Yeah, and I'm concerned, shoutout to you because you, you
finished up.
Uh, you finished up a degree toto get that job, didn't you
this last?
Speaker 1 (28:57):
year over at john wood.
Yep, I sure did.
I went from uh being a junkieto a college graduate in a
little under three years.
So it's just a matter ofwillingness.
You know what I mean oh yeah,it's, it's a matter of
willingness to.
You know, want to be clean andwant to stay clean, and that's
what it is.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Well, I'm sure that when you first started talking
to your wife about going backinto music, like, there was
probably concern there, like,well, this is where you had a
lot of your issues before, sogoing back to that.
Are you going to do this in ahealthy manner, or is it going
to bring you right back to whereyou were when you started?
Speaker 1 (29:36):
The biggest thing about that is is I was at that
level to where we were about toblow up and my meth addiction.
I mean, I worked my whole lifefor that moment and the meth
took all that away from me.
And so like, first of all, it'sa miracle that I even have a
second chance.
That's a miracle in itself,thank god, man.
(29:58):
Second chance like I I'vealready done that, you know.
I mean like, like I've beendown that road.
I played that tape all the waythrough whenever it crosses my
mind.
You know I mean here you are nowin another band that's just as
good as the one you had beforeand had, because, old man, metal
is kind of a thing right now.
You know, you got like maxcavalera and all these guys,
billy milano, they're all.
They're all still touring,they're like pushing 60.
(30:20):
You know what I mean, and andand so like there's a market for
it.
You know there's there's amarket for, you know, gen x,
motherfuckers that still loveheavy shit, and um and so, uh,
uh.
I feel that if I still, even at50 years old, have an
opportunity to play sold outshows and it be a nationwide
name, you know, at least on thelevel of like high on fire.
(30:43):
You know what I mean.
Like I think if we, if we wouldget a tour with like high on
fire, we'd be, we'd blow upright after that, because them
dudes sell out every show man,they're on tour with acid bath
right now and, uh, our music isvery comparable.
You know what I mean.
So, uh, I'm confident that oncewe have enough uh material for
our epk and get the whole thingwrapped up in a package and
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start putting it out there, Ithink that I'm gonna have an
opportunity to tour with somepretty big names, because I
still have those connections too.
You know the connections that Imade in 2008, 2009, when I, when
I was on prosthetic and and andall and all, all of the glory
that I had back then with myband Carbide, when I relapsed
and I lost everything.
(31:25):
Then people were like hey, whenyou get your shit straight, let
me know.
You know what I mean.
Like you're a liability rightnow.
We don't want to work for youright now, but when you get your
shit straight, let me know.
So I still have all thosethings that are available to me
as long as I keep my shitstraight, and so keeping my shit
straight is the number onepriority in my life, because
just having this opportunity ingeneral is a miracle all in
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itself.
You know what I mean.
So I'm not going to squandertwo opportunities in one life.
It's just not an option.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Well, in being where we're at.
I won't call myself a promoter,but it is what it is.
Just being where we're at ismore than us wanting to see
ourselves be successful.
I want to see my homies besuccessful like right now you
know, we we had a little turmoilwith our band not turmoil but
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we had a guy step down and wehaven't been able to play.
And I, I can sit and sulk aboutthat forever and just say, well
, I'm done, I'm gonna sell allmy shit or I can see my homies
win and I can keep setting upshows.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
So it's all just a matter of you know how you don't
have to play and sing at thesame time shit man, I could
barely play, so I could barelysing.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
So putting those two together makes me a quarter.
That takes away a lot moreability, but it is no, it's,
it's very it's's about gettingtogether, it's about a community
.
It's about, you know, liftingpeople up.
You know, in some instancesit's about you know.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
I felt like.
I felt like, too that when Istarted this scene in Quincy man
, I was going to give all thelocal bands a platform to like,
hone their skills you know whatI mean Like, um, and and give
them some hope as to you know,because, like I said, I would
like to start this conglomeratetype of thing to where, like any
midwest band that wants to be apart of it, you know, and then
I can start pushing the websitenationwide.
(33:19):
Hey look, what y'all aremissing out on on the midwest.
You know, or even have like aspotify with just all these
bands you know as potifyplaylists with, with all these
midwest bands that are justreally on a national level.
Man, and you know and shouldhave that opportunity, and even
nowadays, if you get big onsomething you know, you can get
big online and not even reallyhave to tour and make money.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
So no, no, and that's that's.
That's been a thing in the last10 years is.
I mean, there's some of thesebands that never even get
together or play together.
They just send each othersamples.
It's crazy, um, but yeah, let'suh.
So where can we find you onsocials?
Where can we find you online?
Speaker 1 (34:01):
uh, you can look at.
You just look up midwestmonster promo on facebook,
tiktok, instagram, youtube andthen um, the juggerna Agenda is
on Facebook and on YouTube.
It's Midwest TGA on YouTube,but that's about it.
Those are all my socials.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Okay, and you know, if you're in a band and you want
somewhere to play, give Tim aholler.
We've got more connections thanthan we can really use at this
point, whether they want to cometo quincy or macomb we got.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Yeah, I'm, uh, I'm not booking anything right now,
till after august, but uh, Iwill put the word out when, when
I start uh, it's time to fillthem slots yeah, yeah, yeah.
It never takes long, but I, Iput out, I put out a couple
shout outs and it's like yeahyeah, there's people out there
that want to play and it's likeyou know, and I'm honest with
all, unless they come right newyork, of course, like those guys
(34:57):
, I have I have a guarantee withthem because they come all the
way from new york.
You know, I mean gosh and Ihave, I have a guarantee with
them.
But most of the local bands I'mlike look, if everybody does
their job and 200 people show upand I make $4,000 at the door,
then everybody's going to getpaid.
But if only, you know, 50people show up and I'm going to
have to cover my expenses and weall played for free and
everybody's cool with that.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
So yeah, and that's just how it is.
I mean, it don't matter whereyou're at, but I, if it's always
an amazing opportunity tonetwork.
Yes, Because that's what I wasabout to.
That's what I was about to.
To get on there was like, evenif I don't have an event coming
up or tim doesn't have an eventcoming, we got homies in the
quad cities peoria, springfield,yeah the juggernaut.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
The juggernaut agenda is actually going to new york
in may to play shows with mybuddy, bonus.
Shout out, bonus, that was therapper that came down for
crossover fest.
And then we're playing in troy,new york, with bonus and a
couple other metal bands andanother rapper.
And then the next night we'replaying in binghamton, new york,
with promises unsaid and theirhome turf and I've been watching
their videos on their home turf.
(36:01):
It's gonna be wild, bro, likethey're pretty big on their home
turf.
So we're super excited aboutthat.
And uh, shout out, I'm lookingfor a show on the way back, like
in Cincinnati, and one inChicago on the 25th and 26th of
May.
So if anybody knows anybody outthere, let me know.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Let it be heard.
All right, man.
Well, I appreciate your time.
Yeah, and getting reallyexcited for the show this
weekend.
It just always seems like it'sit's falling apart until it
starts to come together.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
You got to keep going forward, man.
Backward.
There ain't, there ain't nohonor in walking backwards.
You just got to keep walkingforward, man.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
You got to.
You got to push that depressionkitty off and then keep rolling
.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Yeah, Make it your bitch period in a sentence
that's that's all right, man.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Well, we'll keep at it.
We'll see you saturday.
Along with uh, sustenance andpursuit, that's gonna be a
killer show dude, have somefaces come out, show up.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
uh, it's gonna be a spectacle, a sight to see, and
the music's gonna be pretty damncool too.
So we're looking forward tocoming to melt in your face for
45 minutes.
So we'll see you there Allright, Sounds good man.
Thanks guys, see you bud Later.
Bye-bye.
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