Books Trends: These Things are SO in!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Three up to across, tap that play button three times,
and walk through the archway into Dialogue Alley. Hello, and

(00:23):
welcome to Dialogue Ali, the Official Potter Collector podcast about
Harry Potter books, book translations, and all other things magical.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
I'm Melanie, I'm Carly.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
And I'm Eric, and the three of us are Harry
Potter book translation collectors. We collect Harry Potter books from
all over the world, and we have all of the covers.
Oh guys, I posted about this on our Instagram, But
I feel like this is a good segue into this.
That was all like lotty doer, like usual scheduled programming.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
Everything that had just said.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
We interrupt because it just reminded me like, okay, like
we collect Harry Potter books from like all over the world, right,
Like we have all of these covers. So Mother's Day,
I went to this bookstore. Every year we go to
a town called Greenport, which is like very eastern Long Island,
and it's a really cute like New England d kind
of town and.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
We always shop and stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
They have this cute little like niche mom and pop
like bookstore there, and I'm looking like standing at the counter,
I'm buying Nora like a couple of books, and I
look on the shelf and I look at the guy
behind the counter and I'm like, that is a Ukrainian
edition of Chamber of Secrets and wow. And he looked

(01:43):
at me and he was like, yeah, how do you
know that? And I was like, I have the first
Harry Potter book in every language actually, and I have.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
A podcast about it and.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
I know a whole lot about all that, but I
don't have that book. And the guy was like, yeah,
I don't think that my boss is selling it. I
think it's just like a conversation piece. And I was like,
I'm the person that the conversation is for. I think
that book is here for me. It wants me to

(02:15):
take it home to be with its brother, Philosopher's Stone
and Ukrainian. That's one set that I don't have the
whole set. And I wish I had the whole set because.

Speaker 4 (02:24):
You need to get one of the gift bags with
the books, like the Ukrainian gift bag is really fun.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
Oh yeah, yeah, right here, I had.

Speaker 4 (02:34):
Lineup on the shelf, i'd show you.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
You know, you know what my issue with it is is,
like years ago, I put one. I put a full
set in my cart on eBay and it was like
seventy five bucks, and I think I put an offer
in for like seventy dollars and they didn't take it,
and I was like, that's me lurky. I can't believe
they didn't take it for seventy five dollars. And that
same set has sat on my watch list and it

(02:58):
just the price goes up up and up and up,
and now it's like over one hundred dollars and now
I'm just mad about it. So now I just I
just I just haunt myself over that Ukrainian set. But yeah,
I got into a conversation with this guy about like, oh, yeah,
have the Ukrainian sunt like you gotta watch out for them
because they have spoilers right on the cover. And I
told him Aboutquirrel and whatever. He's like, that's so cool,

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Like I know, I know a whole lot about these books,
like crazy.

Speaker 5 (03:23):
Does he want a Ukrainian because I am now I
have like three first.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
One, no, but you know what, like I feel like,
maybe like whoa, I might like grab like one of
my like extra copies or whatever. I don't know, maybe
they would want to like trade or something I would
do like a fair trade. But like, yeah, if I
find something that has like a cool cover art and
be like, hey, I see that you like like bar

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and Harry Potter books, it just so happens that I
brought this one with me. Oh I have I have
a German I have like like, I have a like
a German.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
Flo need you can just give it to them to
put it on their show.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
I know, I honestly I would just.

Speaker 5 (04:03):
That and then you could put a little dialogue alli something.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
Little note on there. Lill qr codecx.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
Ah look at that. Okay.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
Well, today in our episode of our podcast, sorry guys,
sorry about the long little tangent. It is season five,
episode sixteen. Actually this kind of sequeezes like a bit
well talking about like being in a bookstore and things
like that, because something that we've talked about in a
few of our past episodes that we've wanted to do
an episode on is book trends. And I know I

(04:41):
am like, I don't want to say that, I'm very
very deep into like book talk on TikTok, Like I
dabble in book talk. And there are a lot of
books that I've gotten into because of TikTok, but I
have noticed like so many things are like super super

(05:02):
in right now with like books that are actually being published,
and you can see that, like people are wanting to
have a hard copy of books in their hands again,
which I feel like for the longest time, like people
weren't buying books, and now people are back into buying
books and they want to have that copy in their hand,
and so they have to do things to make them

(05:24):
more marketable so they can sell these books. So I think,
like talking about book trends and how it kind of
relates back to Harry Potter's like a kind of cool topic.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
It's something I've wanted to talk about for a bit.

Speaker 5 (05:38):
Yeah, yeah, I agree, absolutely, And we've we've touched on
wanting to talk about this for a while the last
five episodes. Something's always gotten brought up. H my god,
that's part of the trends.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
You got to talk about book trends, I know. So
today is finally that day. But first we have of
some dare I say, epic Yes, it's all played at

(06:27):
this point.

Speaker 4 (06:29):
We have Epic years, Epic Universe opens tomorrow. Tomorrow's the
big day. I'm really excited. Like that's the official opening
of it.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
Which is Thursday, May twenty second.

Speaker 5 (06:40):
Yeah, we're recording this on Wednesday, May twenty twenty.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
By the time you hear this, it will already be open.
I would.

Speaker 4 (06:47):
I'm really excited to see how it's received by the public.
So I'll be watching Instagram and shorts and all that
good stuff to see how it goes, because I want
to wait to see something's to settle down.

Speaker 5 (07:01):
Yeah, I know, And especially because when when Peter was
on talking about all the attractions that, like I know
for sure there's two in the Isle of Burke that's
like it's the same ride we have here at the
Mall of America, and it's a slow loader. Like I
don't know how they're going to get people through that line.

(07:22):
It's it's just the capacity is so low. How many
people can get through there per hours, So and it's
not really in my opinion, worth waiting more than twenty
minutes for so even the smaller rides. I'm just curious
and there is a lot to do there. But when
I was just going through the checklist of things, it's

(07:45):
not it's not that much compared to the other two
parks that are essentially one big park. If you're getting
the park to park ticket and you can take the
Hogwarts Express in between two or honestly just walk between
the two. It's like the same thing going to Disneyland
and DCA, Like they're literally a two minute walk if

(08:08):
you are brisk, like they're not far so Epic Universe
is far away. So I'm curious to see how like
that whole logistics of of park hopping, if that people
are even gonna do that for the first couple of
months or what. Because it is it's it's it's far away.
It's a bus ride away. It's not just a walk
away or a casual train ride, which is actually an attraction.

Speaker 4 (08:33):
You know, it's yeah, it's a ride technique.

Speaker 5 (08:36):
I think it's it's worth getting the park to park
ticket just to ride that attraction.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
So I think that it'll be figured out, Like I
think it's something that's gonna end up being like future
Epic World problems, because like Epic Universe problems.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Because.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
I I mean that as once things like kind of
settle in and people have been exposed to the.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
Park more and more and they're going more and.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
More often it's going to I feel like there's like
the time period where the park itself like kind of
settles in and people get comfortable, and people know like, oh,
I need a whole day to do this park, or
I can do both Universal Studios and Islands of Adventure
in one day. I know for me, I can get

(09:27):
a park hopper for one or two days at Islands
and Universal and that's enough for me, and I could
do everything that I want to do in those one
or two days. I can get everything done that I
want to do at both parks in one or two days.
I feel like for now Epic Universe is going to
be that's a one day park.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
It's like going to Magic Kingdom and not for nothing.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
There are people that know Disney very well, go often
enough that they do park up and they do go
to each park or multiple parks a day and whatnot.
I don't like doing that. I like giving each park
its full attention a full day. But I'm I'm more
settled into Islands of Adventure and Universal Studios in that

(10:12):
I could do both of those park copper in one
day and be set. And I feel like Epic Universe
is gonna have that eventual settled feeling when people are
gonna get to know the park and feel like, oh, well,
you know, I come to Epic Universe because I really
just like to do a Super Nintendo World stuff and

(10:35):
that's all I really want to do. So I'm just
gonna go there and then I'm gonna hop over and
do the Harry Potter stuff at Islands. In Universal, then
I feel like park copper is going to be more
of an issue for them, and they'll they might have
to figure something more seamless out. But I think that
that's like a like I said, it's a future Epic

(10:56):
Universe problem.

Speaker 5 (10:58):
Yeah, I can just see at this point people getting
like a park to park ticket and then a single
day ticket, like in the same trip, because it's cheaper
to get a single day park ticket, so you get
the park to park tickets for the two that are connected,
and then you'd think Universal would want to upsell you

(11:19):
and make your entire trip a park to park ticket,
not just you know, like mixing and matching within that stay,
like same with Disney, Like it's rare that someone would
buy like a three day park hopper and a one
day single admission to Magic Kingdom.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
Like that. It just doesn't seem like that's how people
do that.

Speaker 5 (11:40):
But it when you know, family of four, family of five,
you know that extra twenty five dollars, twenty dollars whatever
it is that they're going to charge for that, Yeah,
like that adds up. So it's gonna it's gonna add
like another layer to how people plan to do their
Universal vacations because it's it is going to be more
like a Zort type feel where there's enough parks where

(12:03):
you might have a down day where you go to
the hotel and then you might have a volcano day,
a volcano Bay water park day. Like so like the
way that they organize it, it's going to be different.
People are going to try to plan their trips different
and it might be almost too much now to do
an entire Universal trip at the same time as an
entire Disney World trip. That like that's there's kind of

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so much to do at both that like that's that
seems overwhelming that you.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
Know, I'm overwhelmed.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
In their full you.

Speaker 5 (12:33):
Know glory, not like, yeah, we did a Disney trip
and I just want to tack on one day Universal
because I really love eating at I don't know, Leaky
Cauldron or I'm going for Universal, but I really love
going to Epcot and just experiencing that World Showcase. So
I'm going to tack on one day at Epcot at
the end of my Universal trip. So yeah, it's just

(12:54):
a weird. That's how I'm planning in my brain, like, yeah,
how is how is this going to affect how people
change their vacation plans because there's more to do, which
is not a bad thing. That's a great thing that
there's more options.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
So yeah, I'm excited to see pans out. Do you
have any other news.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
I could have said how it Peter? You could say
how it Peter pans Out?

Speaker 4 (13:23):
Sorry, I got just I realized I reorganized my books
and I realized one I'm an idiot, and two I
actually had the complete set of Montenegrin and I had
put Montenegrin in the MS and also with Serbia, so
they were into my Montenegrons were no, and I was like, oh,

(13:44):
how I thought I had the complete set. Turns out
I did. I just alphathetized them in two places.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
So that was that was what was.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
Going on during the news collector problems.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
Who did you do something about?

Speaker 4 (14:02):
I was so confused.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
I could swear I had all of them, I know.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
And then I was like, well, fine, I just need
book four. And then I found book four and with
them over in Montenegrin, along with a spare book one
and two.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
I know.

Speaker 4 (14:23):
Wow, so that happened.

Speaker 5 (14:26):
My bad, that did happen. But you know what happened
in Oh some trendy books and book trends.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Let's talk about it. Yeah, we don't have Peter here.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
I feel like Peter has been like practicing his like segues.
And obviously Peter's not here because he's at like he's
going to the grand opening for Epic Universe. So that's
why Peter's not here right now. Makes a lot of sense.
But yeah, he's been like practicing his segue for each segment.

Speaker 5 (15:01):
So I'll say he's not, but he totally is. He's
got a notebook.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
I bet, I bet he's got like chat GPT open
like I need. This is what we're talking about in
the news, and then this is our main segment. Give
me some segues on how to get there, and I
bet you Chat GIPC would come up with some good ones.

Speaker 6 (15:18):
Seriously, I'm sure, Well, this is our segue because now

(15:44):
we're going to talk about our main segment, which is.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
About book trends.

Speaker 5 (15:50):
And this is, like we mentioned in the intro, this
is something we wanted to talk about and just dedicate
its own time for because this really has become a
popular thing, not just within Harry Potter books, but books
in general. And I think we're gonna be talking specifically
about these trends and how they have appeared in all

(16:11):
of these different Harry Potter books, both within the United
States and abroad all over the world. Really, book publishers
are doing these things with books to get them in
people's hands, because, like Melanie said again in the intro,
after the pandemic, people were going even more digital with stuff.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
I think we were.

Speaker 5 (16:31):
Really hitting like the ceiling of ebooks and getting you know,
books digitally from the library. And while those are still
great options, no one had to convince the three of
us or Peter to stop getting physical books like that
is our thing. We collect them, and honestly, I still
enjoy reading any book that I'm reading in physical form.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
I just like it better.

Speaker 5 (16:55):
I I that's my preference. My wife has gone like
exclusively digital on her phone, which I tried, and I
just can't. I can't do it. It's too small, it's
it's just different. Anyway, I don't need to talk about
my gripes about e reading. But what once was something
really special in mind blowing in a book that maybe

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came out ten years ago, now seems to be like
I must do for publishers in books. And we have
a list of things that we're going to talk about,
So we're going to talk about some of these trends
and kind of describe them. But then maybe you know,
think of an example or two within the Harry Potter
collection we have, or even just any other books that
we've seen out and about that are following this trend.

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So the first one we want to talk about is
books that have a sprayed or stenciled side edge. That is,
when a book which normally just has you know, paper
around the three exposed sides that are not the spine.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
Just looks like paper.

Speaker 5 (17:55):
And now it's become really popular to either spray that
sideage of a book a solid color, do a stenciled design,
maybe put some like shimmery foil action on there. Talked
about an amazing Slovak book, Yeah, and something else that

(18:18):
I was thinking of from the past was the original
series of Unfortunate Events hardcover set by Lemony Snicket. The
side edge of those books it was like frayed, like
the pages.

Speaker 4 (18:30):
I love pages like that, like the rough they feel
like paper. I mean, you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (18:36):
Yeah, that was I thought that was so cool, and
I remember not seeing many other books that did something
cool like that, aside from honestly like a Bible that
would have like a gilded side edge of gold. I
just like have this like vivid memory of just like
a simple like black leather bond bible with shiny gold

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edge with a ribbon bookmark on it. And I remember thinking, like,
the pages are gold on the edge, like it cannot
get any.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
Cooler than that. Whoa lo and behold wh whoa.

Speaker 5 (19:08):
We have more things to make things cooler. But yeah,
that Serious Unfortunate Events was like the first time I
saw an actual book that I wanted to read have
something cool with the side edge. And now we're just
seeing that all over the place with Harry Potter books,
especially within the past year.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
Even it's just exploded.

Speaker 5 (19:28):
And we've also talked about how like the Onyx Storm book,
the special deluxe editions. Oh my god, this has the
sprayed side edge and on it, like they knew what
they were doing for that.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
I honestly think that that's what started the trend. Like
I do think that Fourth Wing and the Fourth Wing
series is what kind of started that trend, because like
Fourth Wing came out, and then there were certain companies
that were doing these like limited edition, which that's something
we'll get into also, but like we're doing limited edition
books that had these painted side edges, and because the

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first printing of four Wing had a stenciled side edge
with dragons on it, which was really cool. Then they
came out with a special edition for Target that had
stenciled side edges with dragons on it. Then they came
out with a holiday edition of Fourth Wing that had
black side edge, and now it was all of these

(20:19):
different indie companies that were making their own versions of
of all of the books, particularly on ax Storm, because
at that point, it like the Fourth Wing series is
completely like flown off the handle.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
Everyone's reading it.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
But like that book, I've seen so many different side edges.
I'm pretty sure they have like these, either it's their
German edition or their French edition. I can't obviously, I
can't start collecting like another series and like all these
different languages. But there it's either their French or their
German edition or stunning books with insane side edges. They

(20:57):
look so cool with like lightning going on the sides
and dragons, and they're colorful, they're beautiful, and now you're
just seeing all of these books coming out doing that.
I don't know if you guys saw there's like special
editions of the Hunger Games that came out. Target has
a box set. Oh I didn't, and they have like
a floral side edge. They are gorgeous, And the only

(21:21):
reason why I didn't get them was because Sunrise of
the Reaping hadn't come out yet, and I was.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
Like, well, I would want the whole set.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
I don't want to get just five books, like or
just four books, because I think they did they did
Songbirds and Snakes in this format as well. I was like,
I don't want to just get the four books and
not get Sunrise and the Reaping. I don't because that's
that's my crazy like book rules that I have for myself.
But their side edges are gorgeous, gorgeous, so.

Speaker 5 (21:56):
That kind of makes me want to just do an
entire episode about Harry Potter books with side edge action because.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
Like we could talk we talking about now but forever.

Speaker 5 (22:06):
Yeah we have, Like I was just thinking of listing them,
but I'm like, no, because I'd want to talk about
all of them in more depth.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
And all right, stay tuned, everybody, We.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
Have more trends. We have more trends to get to.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
Next.

Speaker 5 (22:21):
Next, well, I will say with with the Harry Potter
books with the stentle side edge, that one the Slovak
twenty fifth anniversary that we talked about last episode, just
like a prime example of this trend right now, like
and a great example of it, not just like a yeah,
we'll do it too, because everyone is like, that is
a side edge done right and just in a stunning

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spectacular way, like enough to make you want to buy
another copy of a book that you have pretty much
the same version of, much like the quote unquote anniversary
edition that we got in the US of Sorcerer's Stone from.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
This plastic bah blah. Yeah, and that's all we have
to say about that.

Speaker 5 (23:01):
So the next trend that we want to talk about
is any sort of embellishments to a book using foil,
so any sort of shiny gold or silver, sometimes like
holographic kind of pseudo three D effect. It's it's just
used to add kind of this omelanie I like what
you put. It's used to add a premium magical feel.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
That's a that's great.

Speaker 7 (23:26):
Love that thanks, yeah, And like it's just it's so
great when it's on the cover because you can see it.

Speaker 5 (23:36):
And I think all of us growing up with the
Harry Potter books from Scholastic that had oil on the
on the front, like that was always a big thing, like, hey,
what what's the next color of the of the Harry
Potter font oil going to be for the next book?

Speaker 3 (23:50):
And that was a big reveal.

Speaker 5 (23:51):
But when you take the jacket off books now sometimes
they're adding extra foil right onto the boards, which is like, surprise,
we have even more wonderment for you to enjoy under
here that you weren't expecting. So that's just really great,
and you know, not for not the Scholastic books original

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hardcover one through seven in the US, they had boily,
shimmery shininess on the spine, like they had beautiful cloth
spine with the diamond pattern boards. But then they had
the little shiny foil on the spine. They didn't have
to do that. No one's putting the book on the
shelf without the jacket on, like I mean, you could,
I suppose, but no one was doing that, and they

(24:34):
still added the foil on the spine. That just it
makes it feel a little, just a little more premium.
And I also think specifically the deluxe illustrated editions of
the Harry Potter books that come in the slipcase with
the added foil on there, it's just it makes it
feel premium. It makes it feel like you got what

(24:55):
you paid for to add that extra money to get
the deluxe edition of some And we're seeing that Melanie
dis mentioned specifically with the with Onyx Storm, with the
deluxe edition, with the Holiday edition, they're adding just this
extra stuff to make it different, but not just different,

(25:17):
to make it worth getting.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
I think they just like are appealing to me. I
think that they found me and they're like, this girl,
let's give her what she wants because she's gonna buy
everything that we put out. Because immediately when I started
getting into Fourth Wing, like I was like, oh, well, okay,

(25:41):
I'm listening to these books audiobook, but I was so
into them that when I wasn't in my car listening
to them, I wanted to be reading them. So I
bought an edition, and I bought a paperback, and it
just so happened that the paperback was like a deluxe
version that had the sprayed side edge and it was
fancy and a target edition whatever, And I was like, well, Okay,
this will be my reading copy, but then I have
to have a nice copy to put on my shelf.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
Which copy should I get?

Speaker 1 (26:04):
Well, I want a first printing, but first printings at
the time were really expensive because on a storm had
just come out or was just about to come out.
So I was like, oh, there just so happens to
be a holiday edition, which is a really cool cover,
and it's a red cover with a black side edge.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
Cool, I'll get that. So now all of my.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
Collector versions of them that I don't read are like
a hardcover set, but then I also need the paperback
set to finish my reading cop Like, my brain just
goes very out of control when it comes to these books.
I have a lot of like rules, I think when
it comes to like my book collecting, But if everything

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gets it all gets it all. It all just gets
like impacted. Like immediately after just talking about the side edges,
I went down a rabbit hole of these Hunger Games
books because now they have the deluxe editions with the
side edge and they're beautiful, and I'm looking at them
and I'm like, oh, I want them. But do I
just get books one, two, and three, because technically that's
the original trilogy but it comes in a box set

(27:11):
with book four, but then there isn't a version of
it for book five. Like what am I supposed to
do here? Do I just not get any of them?
But I should get them because they're gorgeous. They're gorgeous,
so trendy.

Speaker 5 (27:25):
Speaking of gorgeous, speaking of trendy gorgeousness with foil Embellishment's Carly,
the Slovak book with the super trendy side edge.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
Also also has spoiling, sorry y.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
Boiling on the front.

Speaker 4 (27:37):
It does, it definitely does. I was looking at my
Greek books with the side edges, the new ones they
came out this year too. They're different, they're multicolored side edges.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
Wait can you hold it up? Can you hold it up?

Speaker 4 (27:52):
So let me point the camera.

Speaker 5 (27:58):
While you're looking like discontinuous with the Slovak book really quick.
Like they didn't have to put shiny foil in the front.
It was already really cool, but they just did. They're like,
let's change it up. Let's add some boil. That's in Yeah,
right now.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
We talked a lot about that in our last episode.
But yeah, I mean that was something that they did
to change the twentieth anniversary to the twenty fifth anniversary,
was let's make it trendy by fixing up that side
edge and adding some foil.

Speaker 5 (28:28):
Oh, I see, Carly, be honest, you see that on
the shelf at a store and you're like, oh, it's shiny.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
I think that's just like a human thing.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
You know.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
That's why everyone's so into like things.

Speaker 5 (28:43):
Yeah, like the jewelry, the diamonds, the emerald, silver, gold.
You know why else the kids buy fools gold. It's
worth nothing, but it's shiny.

Speaker 4 (28:56):
It's pretty.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
We all like it, all right.

Speaker 5 (29:00):
The next trend we want to talk about is when
books have alternate dust jackets, or the dust jacket they
have is reversible, so you can flip it around. So
I'm thinking specifically again to the this and this is
this core memory unlocked back to the series of Unfortunate

(29:22):
Events books, which, now that I'm thinking about it, they
were like trendy before this happened, because you get the
if you get one of the books I can't remember,
I think it's the I don't remember which one, there's
a reversible jacket and if you turn it around, the

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titles like the Luckiest Kids in the World, and it
just shows these like kids in the front being super happy,
and there's like a thing in the book that's like,
this book is really depressing. But if you want people
to not know that you're reading a depressing book, use
the alternate jacket covered it. And then like even they
even have like an alternate little like blurb on the back,
and I remember that the blurb starts with like, saddle

(30:06):
up for a hayload of happiness with the three luckiest
kids in the World. They have parties and cake and
ice cream all the time, and that was so cool.
But books are doing it now too, Melanie, which like,
which ones are you specifically thinking of when you wrote
this one down?

Speaker 4 (30:25):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (30:28):
The thing is is I don't know of any like
Harry Potter books that do that that evers.

Speaker 3 (30:35):
I don't either.

Speaker 5 (30:35):
I don't either, but like, is there another one that
you saw recently that you're like, yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
Uh no, I think I was just looking up what's
trending in books right now, and then this is something
that came up. Alternate artworks. I mean, actually, technically you
do have the German books exactly. So German books six
and seven they put out an alternate dusk jacket for

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them to kind of test the artwork for those of
you who don't know. So they did that, and they
did like a poll to see like, oh, do you
like this artwork better or do you like this one?

Speaker 2 (31:13):
The one that one is the one that we.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
Have now, So the book does exist with the artwork
that didn't win. I think all of us have that
for Book six. We all have Book six alternate artwork.
Book seven is stupid impossible to get. I think we
only know of like two people that have copies. They're

(31:35):
very very difficult to get, but super super cool. So
we do have those alternate covers in our world.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
They are very collectible.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
So to see that that's like a thing that's up
and coming right now is like kind of cool, and
I would like to see that come about with more
Harry Potter books and that'd be cool.

Speaker 5 (31:55):
I would too, And now I really want to send
you guys a picture of that life Many.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
Snicket book with the luckiest kids.

Speaker 5 (32:02):
It's hysteria, remember, like looking at it being like this
is so funny, Like why did they do this? They
didn't need to do this, but they did because all right,
oh man, the next one. Something that's I mean in
my collection has always been like this is a step

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up is when a book has.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
A ribbon bookmark featured in the book.

Speaker 5 (32:28):
Oh, but now I'm thinking, like, does the Bengali book
have a ribbon book mark?

Speaker 3 (32:35):
I think it does, A really bad one that has.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
I think you're right. I'm pretty sure that it is
Bengali actually, which is funny because.

Speaker 4 (32:43):
My bellybook, one of my BEng gollibook threes has a
ribbon book mark, and my book six does.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
I'm pretty sure my book one has a ribbon book mark.
And it's like, is that the saving grace of the book.
It's just that it has a ribbon book mark.

Speaker 5 (32:57):
But like, but I do remember talking about it saying, well,
at least least it has a ribbon bookmark.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
I mean so far.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
Just in like thinking about all of these trends that
we've been talking about, right, we've been this is the
fourth trend. The deluxe illustrated editions seem to hit like
every single one of these trends because not only does
it have a ribbon book mark, it has two ribbon
bookmarks in it, which it comes with like dual ones,
like I know, the one for Philosopher's Stone is like

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there's a purple and yellow one, which is a really cool.
It also has it has the gilded golden side edge.
It has all the gold foiling, and I guess you
can kind of count like alternate dust jacket. It has
the sleeve that it goes in Like that is super
super cool that it has that. So yeah, I mean,
just keep those books in mind when we talk about

(33:48):
more of the trends.

Speaker 5 (33:49):
I think it would be I think it would be
appropriate to instead of saying alternate dust jackets or reversible covers,
to also include like a sleeve, yeah in that because
it's not like it's a different cover for the book,
but it's it's a.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
Different way to present the book that when you.

Speaker 5 (34:08):
Look at it, it doesn't just look at face value
like the more common version of the sure, it's a
good way to differentiate the two.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (34:21):
So the next one, I know that I Carly loves
talking about things that are embossed, but anything that's embossed
that has any or de bossed, so anything that's raised
or indented on the cover that you can run your
hands over and you just get that tactile the light
with your little fingers, And especially we talk about it

(34:45):
when it's used with a book that has like a
matte finish or even like that buttery smooth finish, and
it's just it's great, and that's that's always making a
book feel a little bit more.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
Special, I guess. Then then just slapping the picture on.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
A cover, that's something that we talk about.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
It there's no foil, even if there's no foil, no.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
We talk about that in every TOTS.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
That's something that always like stands out to us when
we do our translation of the shows. Like I know,
I always think of Bosnian right off the bat. Bosnian
is like a matte cover book with a lot of
it's not even just the logo that's like this glossy detail.
There are other images on the covers that have that
glossy detail too, and when you run your figure fingers

(35:30):
over it, you get like that experience, you know, like
a surprise.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
That's so cool, Yeah, surprise, like.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
Ooh the owls, the owls a little smoother. Whoo oo.
That wasn't supposed to be an owl noise.

Speaker 5 (35:46):
No.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
I thought that. I was like, wait, are you trying
to be like the ditsy.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
Pop No, that was That was not a hoot.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
It sounded like I was.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
To do an actual owl hoot, it would be way
better than that. That was terrible.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
Let's see. Let's see then, Oh, I'm not going to
do it. The audience wants to hear it. Let's see.
That's perfect right.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
That's my one of my favorite knockdoc jokes Carly knock.

Speaker 4 (36:14):
Knock, who's there?

Speaker 3 (36:16):
Who? There's an owl in here?

Speaker 4 (36:20):
Oh my gosh, I love that joke.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
Actually, that's a dead joke of those show. It is.

Speaker 3 (36:33):
So.

Speaker 5 (36:33):
The next one is something that I think applies to
the book that we're going to talk about for the
translation of the show, but it definitely.

Speaker 3 (36:44):
Applies to many other books too.

Speaker 5 (36:46):
When there's any sort of internal art added to a
book or decor, such as like chapter headers or like
exclusive sketches, I'm thinking specifically of the tenth Anniversary of Philosophy,
the tenth anniversary Sorcerer's Stone edition that has that like

(37:06):
sketch of Snape by Jakie Rowling, and then it has
that additional Marry Grand Prey art on the on the
inside there's like a color picture.

Speaker 3 (37:14):
And then even if it's just a man an extra yeah,
I was gonna say that extra mine.

Speaker 4 (37:22):
Yeah, an internal glossary quiz.

Speaker 5 (37:28):
Yeah, oh yeah, there's a quiz in the book that
we're going to read talk about. But even too, like
just extra pages at the end. I'm thinking in some
of the anniversary editions that just have like, hey, here's
like a two page history of this franchise so far,
and like what an impact has had on the world.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
Like that's cool to put in there. You don't need
to do that.

Speaker 5 (37:51):
As my wife would say, a book's not worth reading
if it doesn't start with a map.

Speaker 4 (37:56):
That's a great point.

Speaker 1 (37:59):
I feel that because literally, like the first thing I
do when they start describing these new worlds as I look.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
Up the map, the map, the map, the map, the map.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
Yeah again, fourth Wing, we have MAPO.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
Got the map, very necessary.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
Got the map. I would also include for this one,
like there are some books that have.

Speaker 5 (38:25):
In the middle of them, like a bunch of glossy
pages that have either like color photos or color illustrations
on them. I'm thinking specifically about like deluxe editions of
biographies that might include like real photos in the middle
that just add.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
A little extra value.

Speaker 5 (38:45):
I remember those, so yeah, well it is it's really
great to put those in.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
I feel like also in general, we could also add
just illustrated editions are crazy trending right now. Just like
you're seeing any book they're coming out with an illustrated
edition for it, and we know that because the Harry
Potter books have been coming out with illustrated editions. The
Hunger Games just came out with illustrated editions, and they're
working on their whole series with those. I feel like

(39:13):
I need to get those two. Like the here's the thing. Okay,
I know, I'm like referring back to TikTok a lot,
but again that we're talking about trends, and I feel
like it makes sense because it's social media. But like
I saw a TikTok the other day and it was
like it showed like someone having their bookshelf and it
had all of these like series from our childhood, our

(39:34):
quote unquot childhood, like preteenhood, and it was like Harry Potter,
the Hunger Games, Divergent series, Twilight for those people that
like Twilight, like it's that. And then all of those
people are now reading books like the Fourth Wing series
and Acatar and all of those books.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
Like it's just kind of like bringing.

Speaker 3 (39:57):
Two franchises that my wife is obsessed with. Yeah, I mean,
the thing is Star Fourth Way.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
I she and I need to talk about Akatar because
I'm I'm dragging myself through it.

Speaker 3 (40:10):
I and she's on an a guitar trivia tea.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
Oh my god, maybe she could explain it to me.
I feel like there's something I'm just not getting about it.
I'm on the third book and everyone's like, the third
book is so good, and I'm like, I'm so bored.
I'm bored. Fourth Wing was so much better. And I
have a friend that like we've been reading these books
together and I got her into I think I got

(40:35):
her into Fourth Wing. I got her into like some
other books or whatever. I was like, you need to
read this, and you need to read that. She told
me to read a guitar. So I finally picked it
up to read it, and like, the first ninety percent
of the first book was so boring and the last
ten percent was great, and then the second book, all
of it was like I would say, pretty good, And

(40:56):
now this one, I'm just bored out of my mind.
It's so it's so bored, but I feel like I
have to I'm committed.

Speaker 3 (41:03):
Now, Yep, you're committed. Sorry, we just I feel like
this one kind of.

Speaker 5 (41:15):
Goes it along with the interior art or decort, like
any bonus content or author's notes. I think we just
talked about that, like extra stuff at the end of
the book, but you did put on the notes, which
I want to bring up, like putting special edition extras
like extra art or like an alternate ending, or like
an exclusive chapter about something, or like a DNA with

(41:38):
the author, or exclusive sketches or something. Those are really
big to like hype pre orders, especially for books that
are like in a franchise that's that's popular, like especially
especially like you just mentioned with your Hunger Games conundrum
and most of our Harry Potter conundrum. Now books that

(42:00):
you haven't collected you're considering getting multiple copies of the
same book. It's almost like what Taylor Swift does with albums.
It's like, oh, now this album has an exclusive two tracks,
but if I get it from Walmart, I get these
exclusive two tracks. But if I get the LP, it
comes with alternate art. But if I get four different
LPs of the same album, it forms a bigger picture

(42:22):
and I can put them together. It's like you're getting
people to buy six versions of the same thing, which
is marketing genius, right, and we all are falling.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
For it, like.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
Yeah, exactly, so you know it's it's working.

Speaker 5 (42:39):
Yeah, But I feel like those could go together. And
then the final one is any sort of themed box
set or collector's edition of a book, especially if it's
called the collector's edition. I was thinking, how many how
many times have we seen like Harry Potter Collector's edition,
Like what, I'm a collector?

Speaker 3 (43:01):
Are you talking to me? What? Huh me? And then
I look at it, I'm like, no, I don't it's
not for me. I don't need this.

Speaker 5 (43:08):
Collector's edition ornament or collector's edition pen bag or minie
bag like I don't need. But just the fact that
they say collector's edition, like always pulls my attention and
I have to read what it is?

Speaker 4 (43:20):
Yep, same, Honestly, it's like cool. And then they say,
like usually the Collector's editions, especially for Harry Potter, like
you know, first printing five million copies or whatever, something
ridiculous like cool. I'll wait till it's on tabble.

Speaker 5 (43:35):
Yeah right, rush out to the store so you can
get one of the millions of collectors editions.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
Yeah, guys, I just put the notes. Did you just
see that?

Speaker 3 (43:45):
But I will?

Speaker 4 (43:46):
I have not yet.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
Oh, there they are the Hunger Games books.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
Look how pretty they are. They're beautiful.

Speaker 7 (43:52):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (43:52):
I saw those in a store. They almost made me
want to read The Hunger Games. And I didn't like
the I read the first forty pages of book one
and I didn't care anymore. And those almost make me
want to buy this. Those just to look.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
At you just broke my heart because it is my
I know now, I know she lives.

Speaker 4 (44:12):
Movie three was out when I read the first forty paintes.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
Can I just tell you, holds up, holds up, holds up.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
I'm about to you know that memewhere she's like talking
about like Glinda the Goodwitch, and he's like she was.
She was she wore the dress man like that. I
am about to just like, are you kidding me? I
know she lives, So that's why he didn't read the book. Literally,
the entire premise of Sunrise on the Reaping, which just

(44:38):
came out, is about Hamage's hunger Games, which we.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
Know he lives. And the story blows your mind.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
It was one of the best books in the series,
and you knew what was gonna happen, and you go
into it being like, oh my god, but how crazy
could this book be? We know his hunger games already,
they told us what happened during Catching Fire.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
How crazy it could be. It can be, It can
be that crazy. The series is so good.

Speaker 4 (45:05):
I'm so I did to care for her, like I
also didn't care for her, read her writing too much,
Like it was just boring to me. I couldn't get
into it.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
I'm so, I'm like, I'm heavy reading.

Speaker 4 (45:16):
Super I'm super picky. Like if I can't get into
the book really within a first page, I'm not going
to read it, and that's really hard for most books
to meet. I gave it forty pages worth of a
chance because all my friends were reading it and I
just didn't like it. But the book art is great, Like,
I actually love the book art. I have copies of
the first editions of the books because I love the

(45:38):
art so much.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
So I want to cry right now.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
And the thing is, I have never I have never
experienced an author coming out with a book that you
thought you knew the whole premise of the book.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
She writes the book.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
And writes it in such a brilliant way that she
immediately wants you to go back and read the entire series.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
It's brilliant.

Speaker 4 (46:05):
It's brilliant, market It's well done.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
Because she the way that Sunrise and the Reaping is written,
it gives you a completely different perspective on this character's
entire motivation through all of the other books, and you're like,
oh my god, I have to immediately start and reread
the original trilogy after reading it because I see this
character in a completely different way.

Speaker 2 (46:28):
It's brilliant. She's a brilliant writer.

Speaker 4 (46:33):
Oh my, I wish, like I would love that for
more of my favorite series or more of my favorite books,
to find a character that we love, Like I don't know, Luna,
let's say and write the whole series from Luna's point
of view what she was up to during the first.

Speaker 5 (46:47):
Port always wanted like a Marauders. Yeah, you know, like that.

Speaker 4 (46:51):
Would be so much fun. And to have somebody be
able to do that well like she did is great
and I'm glad you enjoy it tremendously.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
I just wish you would give the Hunger Games a try.
What I want you to do is I want you
to watch the audiobook is fantastic.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
I literally just reread it.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
She's so passionate and the way that she reads it,
like you could tell that she does a fabulous shop.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
Eric, you don't like.

Speaker 3 (47:18):
It, No, I do. I kind of want to read
them again now because.

Speaker 4 (47:22):
I read literally I have credits on Audible. I'm almost
fit it. While I'm on the last book of the series.
I'm rereading, and so I may go and just see
what's going on with Hunger Games. And if I missed
out on anything.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
What I think you should do.

Speaker 4 (47:39):
Is if it's movie watching, I probably won't watch the movies.
I have a hard time with sitting still and watching movies.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
I guess I was gonna say just watch the first
movie and then read the second book, because the second book.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
Is probably my favorite of the series.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
I love the second book, but since Sunrise of the
Reaping has gotten me thinking about books in such a
different why.

Speaker 4 (48:06):
I love that.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
I've been obsessed. Like I said, it's my Roman Empire
right now. It's like all I think about.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
It will never be the same.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
It's oh my god, it was so good. Sorry, sorry,
just a little tangent. Not Harry Potter related tangent, but
oh my god, I can't believe that you said that.

Speaker 4 (48:29):
I'm sorry. I don't mean to be hard, but I
love the book art.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
Yeah, the heart is pretty good.

Speaker 3 (48:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (48:42):
Well, and now that we've talked about all these these
trends that are going on these days, we kind of
looked at our shelves when we were picking the translation
of the show and wanted to include one that had
some of these trends, maybe before it was trendy.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
For the Harry Potter books.

Speaker 5 (49:00):
And we are going to discuss the one that we
landed on after these messages from your loom just kidding.

Speaker 8 (49:08):
Add that out from Minards, the Fernards not sponsored now,
I'm now we'll talk about it in our next segment,
which is translation on the show Fabulous.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
Who's doing it's me. I'm going to take a nice
deep breath. Now that we've were done talking about the
Hunger Game, I would love to talk to you guys
about our translation to the show, which is the twentieth
Anniversary Philosopher's Stone, which, for those of you who don't know,
this book came out in eight different versions. Eight because

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there were four house editions for both paperback and hard
cover that came out for this book. So you have
bruffindor Hufflepuff, Raven class Lytherin hardcover and paperback for all
of these. So if you're a crazy person like me
and all Harley, I don't think Eric is this crazy.

(50:37):
But if you're like me and Carly, we have all Oh.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
You do have all of them? Oh? No, you have
all hardcover. You don't have paperback.

Speaker 3 (50:45):
I only have I only have all the.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
Hard the hardcovers.

Speaker 5 (50:49):
And I've said it before, I mildly regret like starting
buying all of them hardcover, and I did have at
least one or maybe two soft covers, and then once
I realized what this was going to entail, I'm like, Nope,
only hardcover for me, Like I had to, No.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
I just I just.

Speaker 3 (51:11):
When they buy that books when they brought out, I
was like.

Speaker 4 (51:15):
Oh, just buy all of them. And then I realized
after it already started, it's buying the soft and hardcover
from all the houses. Ye all seven books, and then
yourself looks like you're a crazy person.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
Yeah, I mean I what I did was I put
them on top of my shelves and like organized that
on top, and it looks it looks very cute that way.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
So yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (51:40):
You might have ended up with eight separate sets of
Harry Potter books if you decided to collect all of these,
like Carly and myself. So we're specifically specifically going to
be talking about the hardcover version, which not for nothing,
I kind of prefer the paperbacks to the hardcovers.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
I think that quality is better.

Speaker 4 (52:04):
My favorite hard our soft cover is is Hufflepuff Book two.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
Oh yeah, so nice. That's it's so they're beautiful.

Speaker 4 (52:12):
Fact, So.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
I will say, I mean, we could get more into
this when we like actually like tops it up.

Speaker 5 (52:20):
But and I think we should do an entire episode
on this set in general.

Speaker 3 (52:26):
Because.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
It's a lot. It's a lot to talk.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
Half the paperback versions, the side edge just has like
a solid color, whereas the hardcover has like individual stripes
depending on which house you have.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
So Hufflepuff just has these like thick black stripes.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
Slytherin has like these thin silver stripes across.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
Raven Claw is bronze, is it? I can't, I don't,
I can't see it. Yeah, it's like thin bronze.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
Well, that's the foiling change, the foiling change, not the
right and then yeah, there's like yellow stripes for for that. Yeah,
I mean that is interesting, Eric, especially if you're going
to be talking about raven Claw. I'm I'm partial to
the Hufflepuff one. I thought it'd be cool if we
each talked about like our own houses in talking about

(53:28):
each of these books.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
But was it, Yeah, we could. I don't see why not.

Speaker 5 (53:35):
I'll put away my Hufflepuff and get a raven Club
might as well.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
Yeah, so Hufflepuff is actually the only one out of
the four houses that doesn't do this, or kind of
it follows suit.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
If you look at the entire hardcover.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
Set of the Hufflepuff books, it goes black jacket, yellow font,
then yellow jacket, black font, and alternate. So when you
see the books on your shelf, that goes black jacket, yellow, black, yellow, black, yellow.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
Black gl.

Speaker 1 (54:08):
But the first books for Ravenclaw, Gryffindor, and Slytherin all
have black jackets, but instead of it having bronze foiling.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
For raven Claw, bold foiling for.

Speaker 1 (54:22):
Gryffindor, and silver for Slytherin, it has blue for Helflepu
blue for Ravenclaw, red for Gryffindor, and green for Slytherin
on just book one, which is kind of interesting and
I feel like that, like for us as collectors, is like,
oh my god, I can't believe that they did that.
That's really annoying. That's a continuity error. But it kind

(54:44):
of also shows that maybe they were only going to
do book one but then decided to do the whole
set because it's sold.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
Well, like that's my thought.

Speaker 4 (54:56):
I'm also curious in later prints of book one if
the foiler changed or if they kept it like the
green for the Slytherin or blue for the but the
blue huffles really hard to read on the black.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
Blue. Oh the blue for raven Claw. Yeah, yeah, it is.
It is hard. It's kind of it is hard to see.

Speaker 1 (55:15):
But the I mean, the bronze boiling on that I
feel like is so pretty, like when they switched over
to the bronze boiling. Yeah, I know that doesn't look great,
but I like the bronze boiling a lot. I think
it's really nice.

Speaker 3 (55:27):
I like the bronze on the blue. I think that's all.

Speaker 4 (55:29):
Yeah, that's beautiful. Great.

Speaker 3 (55:32):
Well, because I grabbed a Chamber of Secrets.

Speaker 5 (55:34):
It's just it's so cool looking, like it's it's a
color combo that you just don't see.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
You also don't see it a lot because the movies.
The movies went with it was blue and bronze for
the first movie, maybe the second movie, but then by
the third raven Claw was kind of like rebranded a
little bit and they went with blue and gray in
the movies.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
So everything a lot.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
Of raven Claw merch is blue and gray and it's
not blue and bronze, which it is supposed to be.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
So how we got our books, I'm pretty.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
Sure I just got mine on Amazon UK. I remember
having a really difficult time with them, but I got
them on Amazon UK.

Speaker 4 (56:19):
Mine came Forbery.

Speaker 3 (56:22):
Direct from Bloomsbury.

Speaker 4 (56:23):
Well, I have my I have a friend in Wales
and she ordered two sets for both of us, and
so mine came directly from Bloomsbery.

Speaker 5 (56:32):
Right to order directly from Bloomsbury, you need you need
a U address in the UK. I think you can
buy them in Ireland too. I think Ireland they let
you buy them direct from blooms Spear. I'm not sure,
but I think that's also true. But yeah, you have
to put in your address, and you have to have
a credit card that has a bank that and in
the UK, if.

Speaker 4 (56:51):
I go to like Bloomsberry website, now it'll say you're
located in the US. It looks like, are you sure
you know you can't shop here? Do you want to
stay on the side?

Speaker 3 (57:01):
Shop here? Go away?

Speaker 2 (57:03):
Go away?

Speaker 3 (57:05):
Nothing to see here? Go away.

Speaker 5 (57:07):
I got mine on Amazon US. Actually, there was a reseller.
I don't know who it was, but they were reselling
them on Amazon US. And the listing was like a
weird title, like it had like a weird slash in it,
or like the font was interesting, or they had like

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a like a.

Speaker 3 (57:31):
Number code at the end of it.

Speaker 5 (57:33):
But I tried it and it arrived, and so that's
where I got a lot of mine for all of
these in the set actually, and then I did end
up switching to book depository after a while.

Speaker 2 (57:46):
Oh, there you go.

Speaker 3 (57:48):
For the rest of them.

Speaker 5 (57:50):
Yeah, yeah, and that was great, like when the when
the later ones started coming out, because they didn't they
didn't release all these at the same time. I don't
know you mentioned that, Melanie, Like they released book one
hard paperback for all four houses, and then we had
to wait like a really long time for like book
two and then book three, Book four. So that's where
you know, Eric looking at his tiny bookshelf is like, oh,

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I don't think I'm gonna have enough.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
Room for this was a big undertaking.

Speaker 5 (58:17):
I don't know if they announced at the beginning that
they were going to do the whole series, at least
if they did, I missed that.

Speaker 4 (58:23):
No, just I don't remember.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
I don't think that they did.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
I think that they only announced like the book one,
and then when.

Speaker 3 (58:31):
For the anniversary because it came out on the twenty fifth.

Speaker 2 (58:33):
Year, right, yeah, twentieth, Yeah, twentieth anniversary.

Speaker 3 (58:37):
Yeah, twentieth.

Speaker 5 (58:37):
I'm sorry, but like, yeah, I don't know, the rest
of them don't have anniversary stickers on it. It's just
the anniversary of book one.

Speaker 4 (58:47):
And also it's very common for them to be seen
called as House editions rather than the twentieth anniversary editions,
which I mean, they are house editions, but to me,
in my mind, it's always going to be that twentieth
anniversary hm.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
I agree.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
On a scale of one to five, five being the
hardest of how difficulties are to get today, it's a one,
like you could just get them.

Speaker 4 (59:11):
I feel like that Book six is actually hard to
find really, like I think it's Slytherin Book six because
Slytherin Book six I don't have.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
Oh that's interesting.

Speaker 4 (59:23):
So and I didn't preorder them. I was in the
middle of like moving states when all of that, so
I didn't.

Speaker 3 (59:32):
I have I have an extra one.

Speaker 4 (59:35):
Oh we can, we'll chat.

Speaker 3 (59:37):
It's in Spanish.

Speaker 2 (59:38):
Ah, oh I have.

Speaker 4 (59:42):
I have the first four House editions in Spanish.

Speaker 5 (59:46):
I acquired yeah books they're beautiful, five and six, Hufflepuff
in Spanish and Book six Slytherin edition. Someone just like
drop them off in my classroom one day. They're like, hey,
where'd you like these? And my mother in law dropped
them off. It's just one of those times where like
someone's like, hey, I phone to Harry Potter book and

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Chinese here.

Speaker 4 (01:00:09):
I'm like, I love that though I love it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:12):
I love it so much.

Speaker 5 (01:00:13):
People look at that and they're like, I know, I
know someone that'll actually appreciate this.

Speaker 4 (01:00:19):
Me exactly, just like Melanie at this door earlier.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
You're the I mean, I did appreciate that. Now I'm like,
I'm looking at this German book right here. I'm like,
I'm gonna the next time I go to Greenport that
book is coming with I'm gonna give it to them.
I'm gonna like put a picture of our QR code
as a bookmark in it or something.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
I don't know, figure out something cool. All right, let's
talk about let's do like.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
A little tots scale situation of this book, open it
up and give it a WHI.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
Hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
Gotta say, I'm pleasantly surprised I'd given exceeds expectations. I
kind of like how it smells. It's not like crazy great,
but I think it smells pretty good.

Speaker 4 (01:01:13):
Mine smells like Elmer's glue, and I like the smell
of Elmer's glue.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
So they are.

Speaker 4 (01:01:19):
I mean, it's not anything to write home about, but
it's not bad.

Speaker 5 (01:01:25):
I mean, I'm I'm going to give it an acceptable
I think it's fine. It's which I again, acceptable for
smell for me. Fine, that's a good score. Really, it's
not bad smelling. It's all right right, But yeah, I'm
surprised that there isn't more of a chemical smell like

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the smell from the side.

Speaker 4 (01:01:48):
I think maybe it's been out long enough, though hopefully
it's probably like air.

Speaker 3 (01:01:54):
Yeah, I should have smelled that that thing.

Speaker 4 (01:01:57):
Right away, right like right when it when you open
the box and be.

Speaker 3 (01:02:01):
Like, man, hindsight, in eight.

Speaker 4 (01:02:03):
Years this is going to be exceeded expectations or how
long it was.

Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
If I had a time machine, the first thing I would.

Speaker 4 (01:02:12):
Do go back and smell the books.

Speaker 5 (01:02:15):
I wouldn't go back and buy like a malay alum
for like, but you would go back and.

Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
I'd go back and smell this brad pre order Asturian.

Speaker 4 (01:02:25):
Could you imagine.

Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
I would be going there?

Speaker 5 (01:02:30):
I would just go back and buy like ten copies
of Philosopher's Stone in the UK? Yeah, Like, who's that
guy waiting outside the book store to open?

Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
I don't know anything big coming out today, No, nag, that's.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
Right, all right, size and proportions.

Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
I honestly, I'll give you an exceeded expectations I kind
of like the size of perversions. It's a little lighting little.
It's a little a little, but it's also like stocky,
like like it's cute. It's like a chubby little book,
you know, exceed expectations.

Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
I agree, it's it's a good one. I like it.
Like the size, it's Charlie's holding up the.

Speaker 4 (01:03:15):
Yeah, it's the same, but I like that it's wider,
it has more content, right, they added special things to.

Speaker 3 (01:03:21):
It, so yeah, got a little more heft.

Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
I like.

Speaker 4 (01:03:25):
I like the size and proportions and yeah, I actually
really am gonna have to say outstanding. I like it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
Yeah, it's a pretty good one.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
How it feels in your hand, Uh, just gonna give
it an acceptable I I don't so much like the
texture of the jacket. If I'm being completely honest, and
I'll get more into.

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
I do talk about the quality, but I do not.
I don't. I don't love the charity.

Speaker 4 (01:03:52):
It is a different story. I love how the like,
I love the rounded spine, and I love how it
sits in my hand. Because my hands are small, it's
hard for me to find a book that can sit
there easily, but this one does. So I'm gonna have
to say. And I love how smooth the jacket is
and the texture of it, so it's going to be
like exceeds expectations plus outstanding minus readability.

Speaker 5 (01:04:14):
For me, it's a great feel, but like in terms
of holding it in my hands and like reading it
how it feels. But I do really like the embossed
stuff on the front, but the cover, the paper just
feels like not thick enough.

Speaker 3 (01:04:33):
It could have been a little thicker. They could have
kept the same.

Speaker 5 (01:04:39):
The same kind of glossiness on the background, but it
just kind of feels like a cheap egg zine.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
Well that's a quality issue, sir.

Speaker 5 (01:04:49):
That's a quality issue, I know. So that's that which
leads me into I'm gonna give it an acceptable for.

Speaker 3 (01:04:56):
Feel but quality.

Speaker 5 (01:04:59):
I'm also so not like super jazzed about it, and
I'm gonna I think I'm gonna go acceptable again because
I think there are some things that are done really well,
but then the things that aren't, such as like the
quality of the jacket, yeah, kind of just takes away
from that. So you're like, oh, this is the side
edge is great, that's really well done. I love the colors.

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They pop really well, you know. I love the different
kind of art that they have on the front.

Speaker 3 (01:05:27):
We'll talk about that in a second.

Speaker 5 (01:05:28):
But like they added some new stuff they made that
look really nice, but the quality of the materials just
could have been a little bit better, which is a
shame because the content's great.

Speaker 4 (01:05:39):
Materials, maybe not the quality I'm going to I'm gonna
say poor. I love how it feels in my hand,
all of that's great and all of that, but like
it does not wear well like you, that's all been bumped.
They weren't warehoused well before they were stored, probably because
they made so many and they just jammed them in there.
But they made the jacket a little bit than the board,

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so it's prone to like getting real bad edge where there,
and like mine came with tears along the edges. It
came looking like it had been chewed on and that's frustrating.
And then the black that they used it it shows
where so poorly, Like if you get it in the
right light, you can see like almost white smudges from

(01:06:21):
where it's like rubbed against other books. So the quality
of the black ink I think is maybe what it
is maybe the quality of the paper, but also the
ink used because it is a good quality black. It's
a nice matte black and they had to use probably
a decent saturation to get it there, but it shows
where so much. So I'm just gonna have to say poor.

(01:06:41):
It feels like, yeah, great idea, but not well executed.

Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
Yeah, I completely agree. I also would say poor for
all of the things that you said. It's also like
there's certain attention to details that just overall for the
book I don't love.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
Like I really love the.

Speaker 1 (01:06:59):
End papers or really nice rich golden yellow, but the
side edge is like a bright yellow. And that's just
me kind of talking about Hufflepuff. I know you guys
are looking at your own houses, but for me, that
I kind of don't love. I wish it was all
kind of the same tone. And also this could just
be a Hufflepuff issue because they use a black detailing

(01:07:19):
for the side edge, but a lot of my striping
bleeds and I think that it was that way for
a lot of my Hufflepuff books. So that's something that
I don't like. I think that again, this is we're
talking about like book trends. This is when they first
started doing like a side edge on Harry Potter books.

(01:07:41):
So maybe they were like testing things out, and I
think that technology is just advanced between five years ago
when they came out with this book versus now when
they came out with like the Slovak book, and you
could see the difference in the detailing that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
They did in the side edge for that book.

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
But can I blame the quality of five years ago
on lack of technology or just like it's just cheaply made.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:08:08):
I think it's both because if I look at the
sprayed side edge.

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
My green is like not thorough like, it's not like
it's not even yeah, no, you.

Speaker 4 (01:08:17):
Can see it's hard to show on camera because it
looks a lot more even, but like when I look
at it, there's like light and dark patches of green
like this Bayer wasn't evenly done. So part of it's
going to be technology, I do think. However, the Danish
with their black sprayed side edge nailed it. And this
was before they had the house editions, so they figured.

Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
Out how to do a black sidedge. It's very true, really.

Speaker 3 (01:08:37):
Well, so I and the I'm pretty sure the German
spell that too. Yeah, So I mean that's a design
things came.

Speaker 5 (01:08:47):
Out that has more tool than just the side edge,
because it had to go into the page a little
bit in order for you to kind of tilt the
pages to make the words word.

Speaker 4 (01:08:56):
So this was twenty seventeen.

Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
Yeah, and I mean that's beautifully sagurerated, so so.

Speaker 5 (01:09:03):
Kind of convincing me to switch it to a poor
So I'm going to keep it in a but say
it has some poor elements.

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
Notes cover art, interpretation of the cover art. I mean,
I'm gonna say I I like the cover art. I
like the fact that each house is different. I just
think that that's really cool, really attention, really nice, like
attention to detail. I like that they use the Johnny

(01:09:35):
Duddell font, which kind of like makes it cohesive to
the like something that we already know it's recognizable, but
then still came out with something new, simple and classic,
and then like the back of the book comes out
with like on the back of Philosopher's Stone has like
the fat friar like or the blood. Yeah, exactly, Like

(01:09:58):
It's it's really cool how they kind of did the customization.

Speaker 4 (01:10:03):
What I love is that this is Levi Pinfold, who
did the art for the House editions, and he's also
doing book six of the Illustrated now, so we'll get
to see more of his art. So I'm really excited.
I like Levi's art on the House editions as well.

Speaker 5 (01:10:20):
I think what I really like about the art is
that and I'm just I'm just pulled a whole bunch
of them off my shelf.

Speaker 3 (01:10:26):
Like the first book is very different.

Speaker 5 (01:10:31):
The crest is like exclusively Hufflepuff, exclusively Slytherin, but as
you progress through the series, the inside is the same.
So like the image of I'm looking at two Chamber
of Secrets ones, like the inside is snakes, but then
the outside is surrounded by.

Speaker 3 (01:10:52):
Something exclusive to that house.

Speaker 5 (01:10:55):
So there's still like that sense of continuity with all
of them, but it's still uniquely that house. So and
I think that's really cool because it's subtle, it's not
in your face and just kind of at a quick glance,
they might all look the same, but if you really
take the time to slow down and look at all
the details, I do think that's really cool. So I mean,

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not only is it like related to the house, like
there's like a b on the huff offuff one, but
like there is stuff from that book in there, like
Dobby's in there on the Chamber of Secrets. One serious
black is in that's your speck. Yeah, Like the the
transformed friends are like woven into the bottom.

Speaker 3 (01:11:39):
So it's it's cool. I really like it.

Speaker 5 (01:11:41):
I'm giving in It exceeds expectations because it's almost the
direct opposite of the first edition of this book with
the Thomas Taylor art that's really colorful in your face yeah,
you know, really face value.

Speaker 3 (01:11:58):
When it is it's like it's a kid, it's a train,
there's smoke, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:12:03):
But this one it's like, oh, it's Harry Potter and
there's like a crest and then you look at it
like it's actually stuff from Harry Potter in the crest,
which is cool.

Speaker 3 (01:12:11):
So I really like it exceeds expectations for me.

Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
Excellent, excellent, an X factor. I mean you could honestly say, like,
I think it's cool. It ties back into what we
were talking about for our main segment with the trends.
It has the sprayed at side edge, it has the
later books have like the foiling, but it has the

(01:12:37):
embellishments on the dust jacket. These don't have a ribbon bookmark,
but they have interior embellishments as well. And I think
that my X factor would be just how they have
those extra informational chapters at the end. So like if

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you go to the end of My Hufflepuff Philosopher's Stone,
there's there's like a sorting quiz in it, which is
really cute.

Speaker 5 (01:13:12):
There's also, uh those pages are in Carly and I
discussed before you hopped on the on the chat that
like the quiz and the sorting is the same in
every book, right.

Speaker 1 (01:13:24):
But then they have like memorable huffle Puff student house,
head of head of house.

Speaker 3 (01:13:32):
With cool illustrations.

Speaker 1 (01:13:34):
Yeah, famous huffle Puff alumni, the house cup, like lots
lots of really cute editions.

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
In the back that I think are really great.

Speaker 5 (01:13:45):
I think they all they all show at the beginning
of that section a kid going into the dormitory of
that respected house, which is really cool.

Speaker 3 (01:13:55):
That's that's really cool. Right after the quiz, hold up,
hold up that one.

Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
Oh yeah, oh my god, that's so fun.

Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
I mean that's really cool too, because like this is
exactly like how it is in Hogward's Legacy, like.

Speaker 3 (01:14:13):
With all the barrel.

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
It's really cool, really really cool. Do you guys have different.

Speaker 5 (01:14:20):
I guess my ex well, for this book individually, I agree,
like it could be any number of things.

Speaker 3 (01:14:26):
I really think initially for me, it was the side edge.

Speaker 5 (01:14:30):
When I got it, because I really didn't have a
book with a side edge that had different colors, like
or more than just a solid color. I should say, like,
not only other different, there's a pattern too, So that's
that's cool.

Speaker 3 (01:14:44):
I like that a lot.

Speaker 5 (01:14:46):
So just because that was my initial reaction to getting
this book for the first time, I'll say the side edge.

Speaker 3 (01:14:53):
Is the X factor.

Speaker 4 (01:14:54):
It was what got me, so I'm gonna have to
say that.

Speaker 5 (01:14:58):
I mean, there's a reason that people display these books
with the side edge out, and that's fine.

Speaker 3 (01:15:03):
Car right behind Carly's and even.

Speaker 4 (01:15:06):
Like when I get House from other translations, I have
the side edge out because it's just a nice Papa
color on the bookshelf.

Speaker 3 (01:15:15):
Yeah, it's not like you don't know what that book is.

Speaker 4 (01:15:17):
And I was like, no, I just look at the language. Oh,
there's the Japanese one right over there, pretty and green.

Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (01:15:23):
I thought it was like the book from Spain or
like the rainbow side edge.

Speaker 4 (01:15:27):
I've got that down on the bottom shelf down there
because I have all of those, and I alternated like
spine out side edge out because they're so fun, like
the Spanish house editions, they knew what they were doing.
I would get all of them. But I have to
stop the crazy somewhere.

Speaker 2 (01:15:46):
But do you Yeah, I do.

Speaker 4 (01:15:48):
I'm out of space.

Speaker 3 (01:16:12):
But I mean, we can stop the crazy, but we
can also stop something else.

Speaker 2 (01:16:16):
Oh no, I was gonna say.

Speaker 1 (01:16:18):
Or you can continue the crazy by following us on Instagram,
follow Carly and right, I was like, continue the continue
the Collector crazy. You can follow Eric at Knoxer and
Eric I'm at the Harry Potter Collection, Peter is the
Potter Collector. Or you could follow the podcast Instagram, which

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is at Dialogue Ali podcast. There's a whole bunch of
websites that you guys all probably know about.

Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
One of the more important ones, I will say, is
our Dialogue Alli.

Speaker 1 (01:16:59):
What site, which we love now features like a what
you might call it a flow chart at like an
interactive flow chart for interactive interactive flow chart if you
want to determine the value of your US Harry Potter book.

Speaker 2 (01:17:14):
We are working on the UK one.

Speaker 1 (01:17:17):
I think that Eric and I are both still a
little exhausted from doing the US one, so we need
to get remotivated so we can tackle the UK one
because it's a huge but a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:17:32):
Yeah, and I want to because I'm seeing so many people,
so many but.

Speaker 1 (01:17:37):
Wait, but wait, here's my half blood prints. Like what
do you mean it's not worth anything? It's a first edition.

Speaker 3 (01:17:43):
That stuff's the same.

Speaker 5 (01:17:44):
But the UK stuff that's going to be the end
of me is I have a Chamber of Secrets, first edition,
first printing, Bloomberry hard Bloomsberry hardcover, second printing. It's not
not worth money, it's not worth money, money, money, but
it's worth money, yeah, you know, And then you're like it,
you know. So there's gonna have to there's gonna have

(01:18:06):
to be a different kind of groupings. Like what do
you call valuable because some of the UK books sell
for tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of books,
but then you got some that sell for quote only
five hundred dollars or quote only one hundred and fifty dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:18:22):
So it's still like in terms.

Speaker 5 (01:18:24):
Of comparing them to the US book value in general,
there's like more value to it, but there's also more
variables to it as well.

Speaker 2 (01:18:32):
That's just crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:18:34):
It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:18:36):
Yeah, So that's just one of the perks that we,
you know, kind of just throw your way here at
Dialogue Alley Podcasts. Other perks that could come with supporting
us is if you support us on Patreon, we have
all sorts.

Speaker 2 (01:18:52):
Of cool things.

Speaker 1 (01:18:56):
One of them is add free episodes, So if you
support us on Patreon, you can have access to edvery episodes,
which is really cool because we have ads in our
usual episodes. The ads are kind of like targeted based
on where you live, which is kind of funky. Like
I thought that that was really funny. I was like,
how does it know like that I go to PC

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Richards and to give me advertisements.

Speaker 2 (01:19:20):
I'm like, you people don't even know what PC Richards is,
but we have it here on Long Island. So yeah,
I mean, if you like.

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