The Easy Way to ID and Value Your US Harry Potter Books!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Three, up, two across, tap that play button three times,
and walk through the archway into Dialogue Alley. Hello, and

(00:24):
welcome to Dialogue Alley, the Official Potter Collector podcast about
Harry Potter books, book translations, and all things magical.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
I'm Peter, I'm Melanie, I'm Erica, I'm.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Carly, and the four of us are Harry Potter book
translation collectors. We collect Harry Potter books from all over
the world and we have been for many, many a year.
How are you guys doing.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
Good?

Speaker 4 (00:53):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (00:53):
You know, it's my day off today, so I'm enjoying myself.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
That's a good thing.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
We had a snow day yesterday, so that was awesome.
In March.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Wow, that was nice snow day in March. It's been
a while since I've been here, I know.

Speaker 4 (01:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
It was either sick or out of town or in
a play. So it's good to be back.

Speaker 4 (01:20):
Four are both sick on the same the same day.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yeah, we were.

Speaker 4 (01:25):
Last episode is just Carly and Melanie.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
Yeah, the weekend before the week the week before it
was a hard month.

Speaker 5 (01:33):
I feel well and then I was sick. Last week
I had the flu. Turned out turned out it was
the flu.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
I'm fatlu a a, I got a Oh.

Speaker 5 (01:44):
My god, it kicked kicked my booty the street.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Well, I'm excited to be back for season five, episode
ten of the podcast. So what are we going to
talk about this show?

Speaker 5 (02:01):
I mean, you're the one that told us that we
have a lot of news, so we do. Like it's
not a lot of news, we do, but it's it's
not a lot, but it's like it's hardy.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
It's some hardy news.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
Yeah, some really thick.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
It's the Shepherd's Pie of news.

Speaker 5 (02:20):
So much news, and then our main segment today, we're
talking about something that our podcast community kind of like
as a collective has like talked about for quite some time,
that has been in development for quite some time that
we finally made happen. So we're going to talk in

(02:41):
our main segment about rare books. How to determine the
value of your book and you could do it pretty
easily now on our website. So we're gonna chump about it.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
That's that's some incredible news. But we do have some
more news to talk about. First, Eric, why don't you
take us away?

Speaker 4 (03:24):
Well, we do actually have a lot of news going on,
Like always, the news regarding the HBO Harry Potter Series
or Max I should say, but I mean it's produced
by HBO. Can we just call it the HBO series?

Speaker 2 (03:38):
I'm yeah, sure, sure.

Speaker 4 (03:41):
There's just always news circulating now about who's going to
play who, and what's going to be filmed and where
things are happening. So the latest news is that John
Lithgow has been cast as Dumbledore, and that's unconfirmed by HBO.
It has been confirmed by him, the actor himself, but
I until that it gets confirmed by the actual studio,

(04:02):
I don't want to be like, Yep, this is happening,
but I mean it's probably going to happen, so we're
just going to talk about it like it will happen.
For those of you who don't know, John Lithgow is
probably most famous for playing Lord Farquad in the Shrek Movie,
among other things. Now, he's pretty pretty well known actor

(04:25):
that has done a whole lot of different roles both
in film and television. And I think just general quick
reaction from people, I've seen a lot of mixed reaction.
Me personally, I think it's fine. I think it's a
good pivot from the previous two actors that played Dumbledore
in the in the films, I've always envisioned Dumbledore being

(04:46):
kind of a like an aloof Goofball, kind of eccentric
person like he appears in the book, especially with the
Jim Dale audiobook voice that he gives him, and I
think John Lithgow will actually be really good for that.
So I don't know if I'm in the minority with that,
but just wondering what the rest of you all think
about that casting choice, if it is actually going to happen.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
I was excited at first, because, Yeah, I was excited
at first because I really do like John Let's go,
and I've I liked him and Dexter. I liked him
in Shrek. I liked him and everything I've seen him
in honestly. But and then I thought more about it.
I'm gonna have to see it, I think, to really

(05:30):
be fully on board. I think if that makes sense,
like I like him, I don't know if I like
him for the part.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
Peter, are you at an opinion else?

Speaker 1 (05:40):
I While I'm still so, people have asked me about
this a lot. I get a message probably every day like, oh, John,
Let's go, what do you think? You haven't said anything
I'm not saying anything until it's confirmed. But here I
am saying something. If it's true, that's what I'll say.
That's there there that gives me permission to talk.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
Yeah, that's we're talking about if it's true.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
If it's true, I'll be very excited because I think
he's such a brilliant actor, and I think he's going
to bring a different take to Dumbledore him as the
prime Minister in the Crown was the prime minister again,
famous prime minister. Oh my gosh, British prime prime minister,
the very very famous prime minister. Oh my gosh. Why

(06:27):
am I blanking on this?

Speaker 4 (06:29):
The Crown is elementary school. I'm not just gonna prime
ministers of not in the United States. I mean Winston Churchill.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
Winston Churchill, thank you? Okay, yeah literally, yeah, yeah, exactly.
So his portrayal of Winston Churchill was so good, as
Carly mentioned, Yeah, not that I you know, I would
recommend Dexter to everyone who may be listening. But in
Dexter he was so brilliant as the Trinity Killer, terrifying.

(06:59):
Uh so I think he's third Rock.

Speaker 4 (07:02):
From the Sun too.

Speaker 6 (07:03):
Yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Know, I'm in How I met your mother, Like.

Speaker 4 (07:08):
Yeah, he's spending so many things.

Speaker 5 (07:10):
It's like just how I met your mother. He's Barney's
dad and he's like you can tell like that. You
kind of see like his like warm, kind of like
silly side obviously, like versus Dexter where he's just so twisted.
He just has he has a brilliant range. So I
definitely I like what Eric said. I feel like he

(07:33):
could bring like the eccentric side of Dumbledore, which we
haven't necessarily seen. We didn't really see that in the movies.
I feel like we either saw like a dramatic Dumbledore
and Michael Gambon, or we saw like the sweet, tender
Dumbledore with Richard Harris. So I'm I think it's a

(07:54):
really cool choice. And I also think in general, anyone
that they're cast is going to be controversial, and it's
going to be hugely controversial. It doesn't matter who they're
going to cast for any character because this is such
a huge deal, you know. But yeah, in general, I
think it's a I think he's a great choice. If

(08:15):
he is going to be doubletore, then I.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
Think it's a great choice.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
Yeah, I'm all for it.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
I'm for this, Like the casting situation kind of reminds
me a little bit when Gone with the Wind was
being cast in like thirty eight, thirty nine. It was
a huge run up to it and huge lead up
to it, and they had so many different people trying
to audition. It was a huge deal. It was a
publicity stunt, and it kind of reminds me of that
because people were so upset about the choice some of

(08:40):
the choices, not all, but some of the choices made,
and I could see that definitely being the case here.

Speaker 4 (08:48):
Yeah. Well, I think what Melanie just said about, no
matter who they cast, there's going to be people that
are all for it and people that are against it.
So it's kind of.

Speaker 6 (08:59):
It'll be fun to want.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
Either way.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
Right.

Speaker 4 (09:02):
So that's why, like me personally, whenever these casting announcements
are coming out, I'm just kind of like okay, like
I'm not I'm not disappointed by anything or not like
extremely excited and all right, it sounds good. I'll watch
it when it comes out, Hopefully it's good.

Speaker 5 (09:18):
I think another thing that they have to be like
mindful of, just like super Quick too, is like they
have to cast someone that could portray someone old enough
to be dumbled or, but someone that's young enough that
they could last the longevity of this show, because we
already know that the show is going to be over
the course of ten years quote unquote. I mean, I

(09:39):
don't even I have a very hard time believing that
it's only going to be ten years, especially considering they
put like a year in between every game of Throne season,
so you have to wait two years for a new season.
Like that's just an HBO thing to do. So I
would like to hope that it's only going to be
across ten years, but I could see it.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
Going longer than that.

Speaker 5 (09:58):
I think that that's like an st if anything. So
and and John Litkow like he's young for an old guy,
trying to say that, like respectfully, I don't know he's young,
but but that's what I mean, Like they have to
it has to be someone that's young enough to be

(10:19):
that old and well.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
Hopefully and and and stay with us yea.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Be around yeah exactly.

Speaker 4 (10:26):
Yeah, yeah, And real quick, one more little nugget about
the HBO show is the executives have also said that
we should not expect any more former actors from the
films in the TV show, And I expected that all along,
Like I didn't want I didn't want anybody in there,
Like I want this to be a complete separation from

(10:49):
the films and and just have its own identity. I
don't want. I don't want there to be any real
comparisons to like, oh, this person to this and if
they're back, because as soon as you pull some from
the previous films into the show, it's automatically going to
be like joined in people's minds about like, well, it's
the same thing, but there's this thing and it's not this.

(11:10):
This is a separate show. It's a separate take on
this universe. And I just I'm glad that there's a
clean break there, honestly.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
Yeah, sorry Tom Felton.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
But I know that's the only one. Well that's the
only one that I.

Speaker 5 (11:27):
Yeah, that's the only one that I would feel like okay,
Like I would feel okay about that.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
But I feel like it's okay too. But it's kind
of like to meet's all or none, right, yeah, yeah,
if you have him in like yeah, then.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
You kind of got to let Like I feel like
they had to draw that line if and to keep
the cast from talking about it, like the former cast
from talking about it as well, So I think it'll
be good. I'm excited to see what new things are
going to come, are new people are going to be cast.

Speaker 4 (11:54):
I thought it was really clever. I don't know if
any of you watched Wednesday on Netflix, but when they
had Christina Ritchie play one of the professors at the
school that Wednesday attends, and she played Wednesday in the
Adam Sibi and a Simi Values movies that came out
in the nineties, like that to me was like okay.
I was like, oh, hey, it's Christina Richie. She was

(12:17):
Wednesday Adams in a different show, but she's playing a
completely different character and it had nothing to do with
her being in there. It was just kind of like
a fun Easter egg.

Speaker 5 (12:26):
I don't mind fan service like that, Like I know
that friend of fan service I think is great. That's
why I'm saying, like, oh, if Tom Felton was in it,
even like if he had like a no, I think
I think I would prefer him being Lucy's Malfoy over
like a pointless cameo. I think if he was just
like having a sip of some butter beer in the

(12:49):
three Broom, like like I feel like that. I don't
think I would like but if he was like cast
as like Lucy's Malfoy and you know that, it would
be so meaningful to him, like that would be cool
fan service.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
But it not happening.

Speaker 5 (13:03):
I'm also okay with It's okay, I'll be yeah.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
And something else that I'm okay with, and I think
the three of you are as well, is that after
the success of the Harry Potter store in Manhattan, they
are now going to open a Harry Potter store in Chicago.
Which so that's we got Melanie for New York, we
got Peter for Chicago, We're waiting for Mall of America
for me, and then, for whatever reason, Salt Lake City.

Speaker 6 (13:31):
Harry Potter store.

Speaker 4 (13:31):
I don't know why that would be the fourth one
to open before LA but maybe you never know. But Peter,
you've you've, you know, heard a lot about this and
it's close to you. What what do you want to
tell us about the Harry Potter Chicago locate.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
I am so excited about the Harry Potter Chicago location.
Now it's going to be smaller than New York. It's
right on Michigan Avenue on the magnificent mile. It's I
forget if it's a block north or south of the
Starbucks roastery, which is the largest Starbucks in the world,
which is amazing. So anyone who's going to the Chicago store,

(14:11):
make sure you hit up Starbucks hashtag not sponsored, but Starbucks.
If you would like to sponsor us, you can.

Speaker 4 (14:18):
We'll take your money.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
We'll take you, you know, take you take the money.
But so so just kind of give you an idea
of where it's gonna be located. And the theme around
the store is going to be Goblet of Fire, which
I'm very excited about. So like Trizard Tournament, different section,
different rooms you. So, so when you walk into the
New York store, you walk into this giant phoenix flying

(14:42):
above you. When you walk into this store, you're going
to be walking into a like a moving Mermaid stained
glass that we see in the prefixed bathroom. So yeah,
they haven't they've just released like information, not any concepts
art of the inside of the store or obviously pictures

(15:04):
of the inside of the store. So yeah, we'll see
how it, how it looks, and how it comes together.
And it opens on April tenth.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
I'm gonna have to go to that opening, but I'm
gonna have to go.

Speaker 4 (15:19):
My birthday is on April eleventh. Oh my god, I'm
just kidding that honestly. That's It's so easy for me
to get to Chicago in many different ways, so I
will probably have to have there. I haven't been to
Chicago in a while for I don't know, I just
haven't had a reason to go. But now I have
a reason to go again, So I predict a when's

(15:40):
White Sox Chicago weekend with a Green Potter store.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
It's a it's a beautiful city. I'll be at the
grand opening, so I'll be kind of filming av log
like I did for the grand opening of hpn y.
And we don't know what it's called yet. We don't
know if it's called HP Chai or if it's HP Chicago.
So I I follow all of the Instagram accounts like
h at HP Chai at H or Harry Potter Chai

(16:08):
Harry Potter Chicago, Like there are like multiple Instagram accounts,
and I followed all them to see which one is
the correct one. So we'll find out. I guess one
little bit instag.

Speaker 4 (16:18):
I'm voting for Windy HPY.

Speaker 5 (16:20):
I hope it's HP Chai and then they have a
butter beer bar there because they have one in New York,
and then they can have the special HP chaie that
you could get.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
So they are gonna have a butter beer bar and
the theme is going to be like old old time
Chicago Speakeasy's cool. So it's gonna it's gonna feel really awesome.
And oh there's so Chicago is known for for popcorn.
One of the exclusive treats are there's going to be

(16:57):
a butter beer popcorn.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
That sounds amazing, which will be interesting.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
So yeah, yeah, which fun.

Speaker 4 (17:04):
Actually this wasn't on our on our agenda here, but
just reminded me of all the butter beer flavored things
that are outtes right now.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
There's so but beer season everybody.

Speaker 4 (17:17):
Yeah, I've I've personally tried the Keebler fudge stripe cookies,
which I don't I know, fudge stripes the brand, but
when it's a fudge stripe but it's not a fudge
like kind of likeugh, like they should have called something else. Anyway,
those are really good if you can find those. I
found them very delightful. I tried the Goldfish crackers and
they're not actually like goldfish crackers. They're more like little

(17:38):
mini cookies.

Speaker 6 (17:40):
They're kind of like shortbread.

Speaker 4 (17:41):
Don't want butterbeer flavored crackers? Yeah, there, and those are.
I mean. The thing about the butterbeer flavor for me
is that it's very rich. So I like that it
comes in these like little teeny things, like I can
have one or two fudge stripe cookies and I'm good
for like a day, and then I can have like
a handful of a goldfish and I'm good. It's not
like a cookie that I could just keep eating and

(18:02):
eating and eating because it is very rich. But they
are very good. I think they capture the flavor pretty well.
I have not tried the skinny pop yet. I have
not tried the Hershey Kisses yet.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
Kisses are on the way to meet. I'm gonna make
cookies with them. I think left cookies.

Speaker 6 (18:16):
I'll tell you.

Speaker 4 (18:17):
I was thinking like, yeah, I was thinking, like, you know,
like the peanut butter blossom cookies around the holiday season.
I was thinking of doe those with the butter beer
thing in there, but instead of peanut butter, like just
more of like a shortbread type action. That would be
really awesome. So is there another one that we don't
know about or that we do talk about. There's one
that we're not getting.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
There's but skinny Pop.

Speaker 6 (18:39):
Skinny Pop is out.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
I haven't seen it, though. I feel like there's one
more and I can't remember what it is right now.

Speaker 4 (18:46):
I thought there was one that was maybe not going
to exist in the US.

Speaker 6 (18:51):
But I can possibly.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
But I know, I know Starbucks Korea is having all
sorts of really fun Harry Potter like movie based treats
that we don't have, which is frustrating. But that's a
different topic.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
Front of the Day, Asia, Asia, Japan, Korea, China. They
have all these amazing I keep.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
Seeing it all over Instagram and I just want to
go back.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
It's like, bring it here, please.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
Serious.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
I would definitely go different things, and I think we
hit them all.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
Okay, oh good, Okay, They're not all at all the stores.
That's the only thing I'm mildly disappointed about is that
I've seen the fund strip cookies at one chain of
grocery stores here in the Twin Cities, and I've seen
the goldfish crackers at a different chain of grocery stores.
I just want them all in there.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
And yeah, it's like an easter or like an easter
egg hunt here because I'm not anywhere where I am.
They're like further south forty five minutes from me in
different stores around there. But they're not I haven't seen
them at any store where.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
I wouldn't even know where to look for them here.

Speaker 4 (19:59):
They're Target all here, but I ordered online, so I'm
fine by me, which is real crazy.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
Target would be like the place.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
I know you would think you can get pocky chicks
chips our pocket yes things, the little sticks right, yeah,
the sticks, yeah, yeah, I remember, I remember seeing that
China to try them.

Speaker 4 (20:21):
Sure, Hey my visa, I think my visa expires this
year in the sun a ten year visa.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
So close, we are so close on they went once
in ten years.

Speaker 4 (20:34):
Anyway, really quick news blurb here that pocket potters. Those
are the little character guides. They're being translated into other languages,
which is nice, Carly. You had more to say about their.

Speaker 6 (20:46):
Little character guides.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
The Scholastic first came out with the first three the
Golden Trio Harry, Harmony, Hermione, and Ron, and those are
being translated into other languages now so and they're going
to be coming out with more characters over the next
coming months.

Speaker 4 (21:05):
Nice. Yeah, sounds good, And I think we should always
mention we're two months away from Epic Universe being epic.

Speaker 6 (21:12):
Yeah, that's going to be.

Speaker 4 (21:13):
So it's exciting, very much so. But you know what
else is exciting? Melanie? Guess what? I found this book
the other day and I didn't really know much about it,
but thankfully the World Wide Web had a resource that

(21:35):
I could use to identify what it was and guess what.
It turned out to not be anything super special, but
it could be if it was a different book. Do
you want to tell people what I was doing?

Speaker 2 (21:48):
Wait?

Speaker 5 (21:48):
I feel like you basically just told everyone exactly what
the whole thing is. I don't think we have to
have a main segment.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
I think you did. I think a nut all right. So,

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as previously alluded, we.

Speaker 5 (22:27):
Came up with on our website an interactive blow chart
system for determining whether or not your.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
Book is valuable. Why did we do this?

Speaker 5 (22:36):
Well, we are constantly exposed. I feel like is a
good word to different Harry Potter groups on Facebook Harry
Potter book groups, people that are asking is my book valuable?
I found this book at my grandma's house, like she
held onto it for me all these years. Is it valuable?

(22:58):
Majority of those times, I feel like, fortunately, the answer
is no. And also unfortunately, I feel like we come
across people that are stubborn don't want to believe what
we have to say, which is so like frustrating, but
they don't necessarily believe the answers that we give them.

(23:20):
Half the time, Eric and I came across one and
we ended up like blocking this person from a group
because it was a guy who said, my copy of
Goblet of Fire is super, super, it's valuable. I'm gonna
sell it for hundreds of dollars. And we're like, here, buddy,
know your book's not valuable.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
Here's why.

Speaker 5 (23:39):
And he's like, well, it says right here in the
copyright page that it's a first edition, and I know
that it's a first printing. And I said, yeah, Bud,
but it's a this is a book Club edition, Like
I can tell just by looking at the jacket that
it's a book club edition. And this guy was just
going back and forth. He called me like snarky or
something along the lines of that, and I was like,

(23:59):
I'm not being snarky. I'm just telling you something that
you don't want to hear. It's like talking to my
four year old and when I tell her something she
doesn't want to hear, she gives me a hard time.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
That's what you're doing.

Speaker 5 (24:10):
You're acting like my four year old child because you
don't like the answer that you're getting.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
He ended up being like super super rude to me.

Speaker 5 (24:18):
He thought Eric was cool, and then once Eric agreed
with me, Eric wasn't cool anymore.

Speaker 4 (24:23):
That I wasn't cool anymore.

Speaker 5 (24:25):
So I think that that was just like the straw
that broke the camel's back, and I was like, I
was like, Eric, we need to make this website.

Speaker 4 (24:32):
Gotta make this now. To me, I always get super
giggly when people are talking to either Carly or me
or Melanie or other people and they're like, wow, I
watched a video on the Potter Collector channel that said this,
and I'm like, yeah, literally, I know, like I know

(24:53):
that video, and I know him, and I know Melanie,
and I know Carly, like I know, I like, I
like video the video and watch it.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
That's not what he says.

Speaker 4 (25:03):
Well, Peter said this, I'm like, you want me to
text him right now and ask him, I know my favorite.

Speaker 5 (25:08):
Is like here's a picture of me and Carly and Peter,
like at my wedding. I was like, Peter's a really,
he's a good friend of mine. I'm not just saying
that to like say it. I'm like, no, no, no, actually,
like we're very we're good friends. Like I'm not saying
it to make it seem like I'm tooting a horn
that I don't have. I'm saying it because like we're

(25:30):
good friends, and we're good friends because we collect books
together and.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
We all know what we're talking about.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
And that's why I tried.

Speaker 5 (25:39):
And this guy that I'm talking about with with Eric
that we were like exposed to the other day specifically
said I want to know this answer from a true
Harry Potter book collector, not from not from someone that
doesn't know what they're talking about. And I just said,
like my comment was, hi, book collector, year ready to

(26:01):
answer your questions. And and then when he started like
going back and forth with me, I was like, you
asked for the opinion from a book collector, and.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
I gave it to you. I don't know how to
help you from here. And at one point. I was like,
he was like, no, bude, it's a first edition, first printing.
And I was like a goblet of fire. Edits a
book club, Like I was getting so frustrated. It was bad.

Speaker 4 (26:24):
Anyway, Anyway, Okay, there's the there's a little event event
that's just lally. That's a sampling of what not and
not just in the Facebook grips. It's a sampling of
what happens. A lot people find a book, they open
it up, they go, oh, I see the word first edition,
It's Harry Potter book, and they want to know what
it is. So we created this this interactive flow chart

(26:47):
on our website. Currently there's it's only US books. That
was the first chunk event. We're going to expand to
UK books, maybe Canadian books, who knows, maybe more, but
US and UK to start. And the point of it,
there are two main reasons. One it's very easy to use,
and it will help you identify what your book is

(27:10):
like what is it? Is it a hardcover first edition
book with a print number. Is it a deluxe edition?
Is it a anniversary edition from the Kazukibishi box set?

Speaker 1 (27:22):
What is it?

Speaker 4 (27:23):
By the end of this you should be able to say, yep,
I know what my book is. It's this second at
the end of your journey along the flow chart the
flowing river and I don't know books of flowing river
of information. It will also just tell you very specifically,
this book has value. And if so, you'll get to

(27:45):
go to a little little chart that we have on
there that's not like, this is the value of the book.
It gives you an approximate range of what a fine,
very fine condition of that book would sell for. Obviously,
those numbers can change, so it's just a little ballpark figure,
but more often than not you'll get something that says
it's not valuable. And by not valuable, we typically mean

(28:08):
the most you could ever get for this book, and
that's being generous is the sticker price that's on the
book that it's all for reto value. So if you
bought this copy of I don't know, I'm not looking
at the prices on the books, and don't cob me
on this. If you bought a Goblet of Fire when
it first came out, first first edition for twenty two
ninety five or whatever it was, that's the most you

(28:30):
could ever expect to get out of that, And that's
being generous. So now I'm really curious how close are
you grabbing now?

Speaker 1 (28:38):
Yeah? Yeah, very close.

Speaker 4 (28:41):
It was I had like you were doing.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
When you were talking. I was like, I think it's
twenty two. But then when you said twenty I kept
having twenty two, so we were on the same brain.

Speaker 4 (28:52):
Yeah. But in this this chart is not to be
like YEP, told you your book is invaluable. It really
is more to educate people what is valuable and what
is not valuable. And there's always going to be the
rare like oh, this book sold on eBay for five
hundred dollars. That is because someone was misinformed as a buyer,

(29:14):
or someone was misinformed as a seller, or a seller
was trying to take advantage of uninformed buyers. And that
is what we're trying to eliminate with both this podcast.
I know Peter is a big proponent of this as
well as long as as well as Carly. We just
want you to know what it is and if you
should be spending your hard earned money on this or not.

(29:36):
And if there's a book that has twelve million copies
of it that were printed, don't spend your hundreds of
dollars on it because it's not worth that even if
one did sell on eBay three years ago for four
hundred dollars, like that's that's just really the the whole
gist of it. So I'm very excited about it. Melanie's

(29:56):
very excited about it. Carly is excited about it. Peter's
excited about it.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
I'm very excited.

Speaker 4 (30:03):
I was getting down the lists for a lot, but
someone else jump in because I could just keep well, I.

Speaker 5 (30:10):
I mean, we tried to make this very fool proof, right,
Like there are pictures where you could see exactly what
your book is. We have every single US book on there,
like all of the various editions that you could possibly
have for all books one through seven. And then when
you get to like the final page right at the bottom,

(30:33):
there's a tab that'll say, like, but wait, I have
an error copy. Because that's something that people say to
us all the time too, is I have a rare
error copy of Half Blood prints. No, you don't, honey,
Like errors just will tell you what printing you have,
and it's just an indicator. It's an error is not
going to make your book more valuable. It's just going

(30:55):
to help you further indicate what printing of the book
you have, So that's something that's on the site as well.
Another thing on there is something that says, but wait,
my book is signed, because obviously a sign book is
going to greatly impact the value and what I did
for if you have a signed book, it directly will

(31:17):
link you to Adam's website, who is other than Peter
and Carly. He's the expert on signed books and he's
the one that has a business of authenticating these books.
There are people from auction houses that go to Adam
because Adam is the expert on it, and he will

(31:38):
give you a legitimate like certificate of authenticity for your
specifically JK Rolling signatures. That being said, I will say
something that I'm realizing that we don't have on there
is like what if you have a book that's signed
by an illustrator, Because like I have Mary grim Price
sign books, I have a Kazukibuwihi signed book, So like

(32:00):
those are a bit more vague when.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
It comes to determining value. But I would start in
the tab oh yeah, oh yeah, but.

Speaker 6 (32:14):
You have an outliertors so just really oh absolutely.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
Oh I have it.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
I I've seen forged Jim Kay where forged Mary Grant
Pray And they're not forged with JK.

Speaker 6 (32:27):
Rowling, it's just forged illustrators. Wow, so absolutely have seen that.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
That's wild.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
Yeah, if people can pick up and sign a book,
they're going to do something to add more value to it.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
It really is true, that's wild.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
The other thing I realized as we were talking about errors,
that's not there are our actual true errors. Like you know,
a hardcover that's missing the foil on the front of
the dust jacket. That would be considered an error, and
it adds a little bit of value. It's it's more
than the you know, the the the non foil hardcover

(33:01):
of the US books. You know, those focal self for
one hundred bucks or so, So that might be something
else to include.

Speaker 4 (33:07):
They they will sell. Yeah, that's a great point. We
should add that on like production production air. I think
we do have in like the more info tab there
is something on there, but we can make that more prevalent.
And like that is such a niche item that when
someone's like, oh, there's there's no foil on the cover,
it's gotta be worth thousands of dollars. Well, it might

(33:29):
be worth something but only if there is someone that
is willing to buy, so it's not you know, like
the the market for people that are interested in that
air really determines the price, and if there's only two
people out there that are interested, they pretty much set
the market on whatever that price is.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
So what you could do with something like that is
just have like a if you if you have a
book like this or whatever, just to contact and then
they can email privately from there. That way it can
be a discussion instead of Yeah, that's more because that's
when you're doing stuff like this. It's like with my website,
which is full of everything, and I keep adding everything

(34:06):
and it's just ridiculous.

Speaker 6 (34:08):
There's so much nuance, right, And that's.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
Where this, like the gray area, is where it gets
hard because some of those are really cool. Or what
if I have a first print, you know, Sorcerer's Stone
that that's bound upside down. It's a rare book, but it's.

Speaker 6 (34:21):
Weird, you know, stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
I think having if your book falls into this category
and we can work on the wording of it later
email here. That way, it still filters out the the
eleven owls.

Speaker 4 (34:34):
Yeah, a lot of contact forms out there, too, so
do what you can. Carly.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
Do you remember that collector Greg from years and years ago?

Speaker 6 (34:47):
Absolutely, I got a second from him.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
He had one of the coolest Sorcerer's Stone errors. It
was a first printing of Sorcerer's Stone. But let's see
if I can, I can explain it by like holding
up a dust jacket, So who was I dropped the
book so it was like it was the foil was
printed upside down, so Harry Potter was embossed, but then

(35:17):
Harry Potter was printed or the foil was printed down
here on the upside down, so it's like if you
flip your back upside down. It was the coolest thing. Yeah,
Now that was like such a cool error.

Speaker 5 (35:31):
Yeah, something like that, Like I know, yeah, I was
gonna say, like me, as a collector, like I personally
wouldn't be interested in a book like that purely because
it's just on the jacket. It's not like an error
with the book itself. So I feel like something like
that like wouldn't particularly interest me. But yes, Carly, what

(35:51):
you were saying, like there is like a small market
for things like that, but it has to be very
it's very, very very nice.

Speaker 3 (35:58):
I've known people that errors, but they had an absolute
I will not pay more than this. Like if if
it's a first print Sorcerer's Stone, which is in this condition,
it's going to be worth X amount of dollars in
you know, normal If it has an error like it's
missing the foiling, I might pay twenty dollars more something
like that.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
So it does might make I might not they would
pay full amount for it.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
I wouldn't pay full amount for it, Like, yeah, my
Sorcerer's Stone that's bound upside down has a miss like
the foiling is also misaligned, and there's it's just a
screwball book.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
But had I have.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
Known, I didn't I spent two hundred dollars on it,
it would be one that I would never sell because
I wouldn't know what to sell it for. For one too,
it even in fine condition, I wouldn't want fine condition
money for it because it's it's weird. So this is,
you know, but there's somebody who may pay. They may
value the error itself, like twenty dollars more than because

(36:54):
I think it's neat and it's a part of the
publishing history. But they're not going to spend actual money
money on the air itself, if that makes sense, right.

Speaker 4 (37:02):
It just it makes it cool. I like what Peter said.
It makes it cool. It doesn't make it valuable. It
makes it cool and interesting. Like if you bought a
Honda Civic and it had an error, that wouldn't be cool.
More for a car with more for a car with
an air than you would for a car without an air.

(37:22):
So really it's it's just about what you what you collect.
But for now, this tool, its purpose is to help
you identify which book you have and tell you if
it has value or not value. And you are free
to reach out to us through the contact page on
our website if you have questions about it, if you

(37:45):
know what what we're putting on there. It's it's not
necessarily like it's just our opinion, but our opinion is
pretty well documented and researched.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
Well yeah, and we've collected and based based on the
mar Ki.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
Yeah it's but yeah, great opinion for sure.

Speaker 4 (38:05):
Yeah, I would That's what I would say. And and oftentimes,
like Melanie was just saying, when you give someone an
opinion that they don't like to hear, it's not always
the best news. And that's that's not great. So hopefully
this will help you go through this process on yourself
without having to like talk to somebody first and maybe

(38:25):
get your heart broken, or maybe you have something super
awesome and turns out it is great and you do
want to talk to someone about it. It's pretty happy
to do for that as well.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
Well. I figured here, here's what I'm gonna do.

Speaker 5 (38:38):
I'm going to go right to our website, which is
dialogue ally dot com, fun fact crazy, and right. I'm
going to tell you guys like how to find it.
So there are two places. So first is right on
the top. There's a tab that says is my book valuable?
You could click that tab. Or if you're scrolling through
the website and you wanted to learn more things about

(39:00):
our website as a whole, and you're scrolling through the
whole main page, you'll get to a section on it
where it says identify my Harry Potter book. Uncover the
hidden value of your Harry Potter book with an interactive
flow chart, and you can click start now, and that
could be how you start with your book. So I'm
going to give you, guys an example of what you

(39:22):
might experience. So I'm gonna hold up here's a book.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
La la la.

Speaker 5 (39:27):
I'm going to hold up this book. I'm not going
to tell you guys what it is though, so only
if you're here you know what book this is. So
the first thing that you're going to answer is where's
my book from? And that's because now that we kind
of have the formula figured out for how we did this,
and we did United States books in the United States,

(39:47):
we're going to do books from the UK. Also, there
are just so many more of them, so that's why
this is kind of like the beta version. So you're
going to click where your book is from. So my
book is from the United States. Next tab that it's
going to bring you to is is well, which Harry
Potter book do you have?

Speaker 2 (40:02):
And it has Sorcerer's.

Speaker 5 (40:03):
Stone, Chamber of Secrets, Prisoner of Bad's Command Goblet, a
fire Order of the Phoenix, half footprints, deathly Hallows. It
does not have Cursed Child because regardless, your curse child
is not worth anything. I mean, my curse child anything
anything signed.

Speaker 4 (40:19):
Anybody I've signed by, anything signed by Jake, this studfinder
from Home Depot.

Speaker 5 (40:25):
I mean my curse child is signed by the cast
from the preview, which is pretty cool, but.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
It's whatever.

Speaker 5 (40:36):
It's hanging out on my shelf and it's not on
this website. So my particular book that I'm holding up
happens to be Order of Phoenix. So I'm going to
click Order of the Phoenix, and it's going to bring
you to a page that says, well, what does your
book look like? Because there are one, two, three, four, five, six,
seven different versions of Harry Potter and the Order of
the Phoenix. There's the first Trade Edition, there's fifteenth Universe,

(41:00):
there's twentieth Anniversary, there's a twenty fifth anniversary. There is
the Illustrated Edition, the Deluxe Edition, and this book right here,
which is I don't know what book this is, but
my book looks like that.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
So I'm going to click it, and.

Speaker 5 (41:17):
Then it brings me to this last page where it says,
you have the book Expo of America Edition has a
picture of my book exactly what my book looks like,
and it tells me right here your book is valuable
in big letters. And then there's also another tab that
says tell me more. So I can open up the
tab that says tell me more anytime. It's a book
that we say is valuable. There's going to be a

(41:39):
tell me more tab, and it's going to tell.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
Me more, tell me more.

Speaker 4 (41:44):
In my head today that's all, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (41:47):
Have a car, but it's going to give you more
information on that valuable book and why it's considered valuable.
So the bea it just explains what this book is,
but we'll get into the little bit more later. And
then when I click that my book is valuable, it

(42:07):
brings me to this beautiful chart that gives you a
price range of what this book could be valued at.
And again right under that, if I have more questions,
if I want to find more information on these books,
there's a link to Carly's website, which we say just

(42:28):
has such a keeping plethora of information, so you could
always go to Carly's website. Another thing that we're in
the process of doing is linking episodes where we talked
about these specific books, so you'll be able to listen
to an episode about it. You can click, oh, but
mine's an error copy, or you can click my book

(42:48):
is signed right underneath that, and there's also when you
get to like the finish line of the flow chart,
there's a little tab that says still need help and
brings you to a little contact page so you can
you can email us.

Speaker 3 (43:03):
Perfect and also that still need help may may be
able to absorb some of the more odd like foiling
errors and things that people see, so we may not
even have to do anything.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (43:16):
I also feel like this still need help button like
takes the US out of it, if it makes sense,
So it makes it like even more objective. So if
someone Joe Schmoe from Facebook doesn't like the answer, they
can email and say still needs help, And like they
don't necessarily know that they're like asking us.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
They just think they're that.

Speaker 5 (43:39):
Just told them on Facebook, right, they just think that
they're like talking to a Harry Potter book expert exactly.

Speaker 4 (43:46):
I don't know any I don't know any of those.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
Craziness.

Speaker 5 (43:54):
But yeah, that's like a walkthrough tour of what you
could potentially experience on on the website. It's still like
there are still things that Eric and I are realizing,
like going through like oh, we forgot to link something here,
So there's still like some buggies that we might be
working out. But honestly, for the most part, like it
is completely fully functional.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
It works.

Speaker 3 (44:17):
Last night on the mobile side. It worked very seamlessly.

Speaker 4 (44:22):
Oh good because I worked very hard on the mobile.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
Yeah I did.

Speaker 5 (44:25):
I liked the computer side, but it worked really did
the side. Eric did the Eric did the mobile side
because I can. I was like, Eric, I'm done. I
think you can fix the mobile make it look nice.

Speaker 6 (44:39):
Yeah it does.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
It looks great. It looks great, it looks great.

Speaker 4 (44:44):
So yeah, well this, this to me now is like
the go to if anyone asks on any sort of
social media thing like hey, what is this book? It's like,
here's the link, right, and I think what what also
led to this? Let Le's one I want to make
is that oftentimes we hear people like I've looked everywhere

(45:05):
on the Internet to try to find out what this is? Like,
really you did, because I know you can ask chat
GPT and it'll tell you what your book is.

Speaker 6 (45:15):
This I know when I google book, this should just be.

Speaker 4 (45:17):
A very easy, easy process to figure out what you have.

Speaker 3 (45:21):
When I google things, just to see if what people
are saying is correct, because you know, you never know.
I see all of our stuff, like I see Peter stuff,
my stuff, Dilogue Alley stuff.

Speaker 6 (45:31):
I see other.

Speaker 3 (45:32):
People's sites coming up like the information is there.

Speaker 6 (45:35):
They're just not searching.

Speaker 5 (45:38):
Because it's easier to just go on to Facebook and
be like, hey, is my book worth something blah blah blah,
and like some uneducated person will say yes, and then
they'll listen to that one opinion instead of the twenty
other people that are telling them no.

Speaker 6 (45:54):
That is always to me, it's the.

Speaker 4 (45:58):
Classic nine nine out of ten dentists recommend toothpaste. Yeah,
it's a good idea that one dentist that doesn't reckon
nobody knows who that dentist is. It doesn't recommend using
this kind of toothpaste for whatever reason, but nine of
them do, so I would go with.

Speaker 6 (46:16):
The nine yeah over the one. Anyway, Well done done.

Speaker 5 (46:21):
Yeah, I mean I will say it was great, like
looking into our website with the book Expo of America
edition and we can learn even more about that book
on our translation of the show.

Speaker 3 (47:10):
This book is one of my absolute favorite little books.
The book Expo of America. The ba Order of the
Phoenix is one of my absolute favorites, just because I
feel like it is such an underappreciated little gem that
I'm so thrilled to finally seeing it, like getting its
day in the sun a little bit.

Speaker 6 (47:28):
So that's I'm excited. I'm excited to talk about it.

Speaker 3 (47:33):
And I'm so excited about how it's gone up in
VALUEBB We'll discuss that a minute. So really quickly, what
the BA or Book Expo of America is is that
in two thousand and four, for the book Hexpo of America,
Scolastic gave out these books, only five thousand were made. Guys,
five thousand. That's especially when you consider that's been what
twenty one years and five thousand copies, and people didn't

(47:56):
know what these little books were, and so many I'm
sure were lost to time. Right that it's really pretty
incredible that that they're still around as much as they are.
People were miss selling them for the longest time as
proof copies of Order of the Phoenix because nobody really
knew anything about them.

Speaker 6 (48:13):
I was able to buy.

Speaker 3 (48:16):
I bought so many in the early twenty tens for
like twenty dollars, forty dollars.

Speaker 6 (48:21):
I think I got this one for I think forty
dollars on eBay.

Speaker 3 (48:27):
So, I mean, nobody knew what they were, and that
confusion kind of dampened their value.

Speaker 6 (48:31):
But they're really really cool and.

Speaker 3 (48:33):
There's no wording on the book itself except for the
Scholastic on the back and read. It uses a Mary
grand Prey cover that you see on the Scholastic Deluxe edition,
which is in the slipcase.

Speaker 6 (48:47):
The hardcover slipcase.

Speaker 3 (48:48):
They use those same wraps, but this time it's in
their little soft cover that they handed out. And what's
even neater is that there's a think you note at
the front of the book that just says thank you guys,
and it tells you about.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
What it is.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
And it is so cool, Like it tells you there's
five thousand copies.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
Printed, friends and colleagues.

Speaker 3 (49:08):
Yeah, that's it's confirmed. It is so cool.

Speaker 6 (49:12):
It's an exclusive deal. It was just for this event
and so on.

Speaker 4 (49:16):
And I think, like Carly, so cool. We know where
the event took place.

Speaker 3 (49:21):
I do somewhere. I think I wrote several articles about
this at different points. Let me look it up. I
think I have that information. I don't see the actual
city it took place in, but that al can research it.
I have an article from the event somewhere on my
documents saved, so I'll add it in.

Speaker 6 (49:38):
I'll find it perfect.

Speaker 4 (49:41):
Yeah. Annabelle, who's in the Life listening because that's one
of our discord perks. If you support us on Patreon,
you could listen to us record live. Yes, she was
wondering and I don't know the answer to that either,
So that'd be great if you could find that.

Speaker 3 (49:51):
Yeah, I'll dig around. I saved articles on it and
stuff because this really is such a cool book. And
let's see, the Order of the Phoenix came out in
two thousand and three and this came out in two
thousand and four. Is a two thousand and four book expo.
So but people are saying they're proof copies of Order
of their Phoenix because they just didn't know what it was.

(50:12):
But I could go on anyway we can. How did
we get our copies? How did we each get our copies?

Speaker 1 (50:22):
I don't know what I got my copy because I
didn't even know that I had a copy.

Speaker 6 (50:27):
You knew you had a copy.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
About it started, I'm like, guys, I don't have this book.

Speaker 4 (50:31):
I don't have it.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
It's not on my shelves. I wouldn't have this book
in my safe because it's you know, it's a valuable book,
but it's not safe worthy, so it's not on my
shelves and I don't have it, and then Eric's like
Peter's just going to like go down to his shelf
and pull it out magically and lo and behold it like.

Speaker 3 (50:49):
Thirty seconds later.

Speaker 6 (50:50):
That's exactly what happened.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
So I have no idea where I got my book.

Speaker 3 (50:56):
This one, I, like I said, eBay for about forty
bucks years ago.

Speaker 5 (51:01):
Now, yeah, I think I think I got mine for
like fifty bucks from Carly. I think I bought it
from you.

Speaker 3 (51:05):
That sounds great.

Speaker 4 (51:08):
I spent significantly more than all of you for this
book because it is a recent acquisition for me when
these books are now becoming harder to get. And I
bought one from David, who is a member of our
Discord patron supporter and he also actually lives in Minneapolis,
so I've actually met up with him in person.

Speaker 6 (51:26):
It is so cool.

Speaker 4 (51:28):
We just made the exchange. It was awesome. Yeah, so
great guy, And it was nice that I was able
to get one, especially from someone that I trust selling books.
That's a huge thing too, Like he said he had it,
like great, I'll buy it from you, no, no hassle.
So yeah, but my I did pay a lot more
so why don't we talk about the value carly.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
Like well, the last known sale of one that I'm
aware of was five hundred pound, a little over five
hundred pound.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
I think.

Speaker 4 (51:58):
Within a week a week ago, right, yeah, like that,
that is.

Speaker 3 (52:01):
Up dramatically from the twenty and forty dollars. And I
was buying them from and I was able to buy
them all day long at that, Like I'd see them
on eBay and I'd grab them because I knew they
were super cool. And my copy is not in the
best of shape.

Speaker 6 (52:17):
I sold my better copies.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
Yeah, mine is not minus not a copy.

Speaker 3 (52:22):
I mean it's been read.

Speaker 6 (52:24):
The mine is cracked.

Speaker 3 (52:25):
I've sold really beautiful copies though for I don't know,
fifty dollars, sixty dollars.

Speaker 6 (52:32):
Yeah, beautiful books.

Speaker 3 (52:33):
They're beautiful, like in they really are a great book.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
Yeah it is.

Speaker 4 (52:38):
Is this the rare occasion or I may have the
best your copy?

Speaker 3 (52:41):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (52:44):
Whatever?

Speaker 5 (52:45):
Before Wait, that is a nice Krispy corner. Yeah, yeah, mineus,
mine's a little loved. Mine's loved.

Speaker 4 (52:51):
Yeah, I spilled.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
Mustard done BA twenty four By the way, was Las Vegas?

Speaker 3 (52:57):
Okay, oh okay, not far from me. I should see
if there's something just hanging out at bookstores and stuff.

Speaker 4 (53:07):
Buried in the desert. Yeah, but curly, what I think
is amazing what the value of this book is That
we've it's confirmed five thousand of this book exists. That's
less than the first American printing of by a lot,
by a lot, by a lot, by a lot. And
this book, even now that it's gaining some some rarity traction,

(53:29):
still is not selling for what first printing Sorcerer's Stones
are selling for in really good conditions. So yeah, it's
almost like that a Storian cycle where there's like there's
not a lot of Historian books, yet there aren't there's
this the band for it, so really give it time.
I think rarity of something doesn't always determine the value.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
Of something, but I feel like as more people are
learning what that book is, we're seeing the price dramatically
increase now that now that people know. I think people
just didn't know what that book was. I didn't know
what they had to sell it at that The few
who did bottom at twenty dollars, but there still wasn't
that much of a demand in fluence, So it's not

(54:09):
like I could flip them for a lot of money
because the demand was still low, but they were neat
to have. And I'm so thrilled to see it kind
of getting appreciated now and going up in value because
they are really neat.

Speaker 4 (54:21):
Yeah, I guarantee if social media Instagram, Twitter, TikTok, if
those were in play in two thousand and four at
the Book Expo of America and you got some Harry Potter,
because Harry Potter was already a huge deal when this
book came out. It wasn't you know, it wasn't an
unknown entity. So if people were at that book expo,
you know, sending snaps and Instagram reels and stuff about

(54:44):
this book, oh God, and that there's only five thousand
of them. I mean it's almost like those when Funko
Pops would release those exclusive comic con editions or something
like there is that huge fomo of like I'm a
huge fan of this. How can I not call myself?
How can I call myself a fan of this? If? Like,
if I don't get one, I need one? Right that

(55:06):
didn't exist when this book was was starting to kind
of surface. So yeah, I don't know how you can convince.

Speaker 1 (55:15):
People that it's rare but it'll be here this this
might convince people. There are none on eBay, no scroll
pasts like thirty dollars, and there are no recently sold
copies on eBay. So if that doesn't confirm the rarity
of it, or well, I mean, really, what can confirm
the rarity of it is if you open up the cover,

(55:36):
it literally says there are only five first printed.

Speaker 3 (55:39):
Yeah so yeah, five thousand copies and between.

Speaker 6 (55:43):
Now and then.

Speaker 4 (55:45):
But I love that it says. It doesn't only say
like there are five thousand, It says there are.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
It says only this is one of only five thousand.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
I added the word only to our website.

Speaker 4 (56:00):
The last sentence in that paragraph is we hope this
will be a great reminder of b A two thousand
and four. I'm just like picturing someone that was there
that's just like looks over it on their shelf and
they're like, oh, what was Vegas? Vegas? On a time?
That was that was just something else? What a what

(56:23):
a trip?

Speaker 1 (56:24):
That, what a convention?

Speaker 4 (56:26):
I wouldn't have even thought about it had I not
looked over and saw this book.

Speaker 6 (56:35):
Oh yeah, sorry, oh yeah, tots yep.

Speaker 3 (56:39):
I was still on the cool book itself. We can
do the Todd scale, though I actually haven't smelled this.

Speaker 4 (56:50):
Before we smell it, we should mention if you can't
see what this book looks like, it'll be in the
picture of the episode. But it's a paperback book. It
has the Order the Phoenix Deluxe Edition cover, so it's
the like you can't I don't want to fold this out,
but if you have the Deluxe edition and you can
fold out the jacket, it's essentially number twelve Grim Old

(57:13):
Place with headwig. The Grimold Place house is like translucent
a little bit or you know, kind of fading into
view and you can see the the armed guard kind
of you know, appearing on their broomsticks. It's a really
really awesome art scene. And to me, what the coolest
thing about the cover is that there's no writing on

(57:35):
it at all. There's nothing on the spine, nothing on
the front. The only thing on the back is that
it's published by Scholastics, So it really is it's pretty
easy to pick out, like from the lineup, like that's
a book Expo of America edition because it's a paperback
and it has this cover, so I don't want to
say it's unique art but it's.

Speaker 6 (57:53):
Unique tonique positions.

Speaker 4 (57:55):
That are not just like the mass the mass trade edition.
So just this art alone is.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
Really really cool. I almost gave up my favorite power
or my my X factor. I'm gonna save it. Save it.

Speaker 4 (58:12):
Mine is that it tastes great.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
Like dark.

Speaker 4 (58:18):
Very high percentage, yes, very very high. All right, should
we smell it?

Speaker 1 (58:23):
Okay, I'm kind of grossed out. I don't know if
I wanna smell it.

Speaker 4 (58:29):
I love it. I love it. It smells like a
Scholastic paperback book. I'm giving it outstanding. Love it.

Speaker 3 (58:36):
Mine smells like this wonderful old musty bookshop. So it's
getting outstanding for me.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
Yeah, mine still has the Scholastic smell as well, and
it's definitely going to get an outstanding.

Speaker 5 (58:52):
Oh I was just gonna give mine an exceeds expectation.
Sorry everyone, I'm getting an E.

Speaker 2 (58:57):
It's not like fabulous, it's just it's pretty good.

Speaker 4 (59:01):
Don't apologize to me, apologize to the Book Expo of America.

Speaker 2 (59:05):
Sorry, sorry, Scholastic.

Speaker 1 (59:08):
Yeah we don't have to. Never mind, I'm not going to.
I'm not going to finish that statement.

Speaker 4 (59:13):
That's a bonus episode reverse either, if you want to
do a bonus episode of Me for ten minutes at
some point because we missed out on that last episode.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
True, we can share, Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 4 (59:22):
I don't know if I want happy.

Speaker 1 (59:23):
To publicly share my my thoughts, though.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
I think bonus episode volumes.

Speaker 1 (59:30):
Silence does speak volumes. I did comment on their announcement though,
that said, I'll stick with the first three. I think that.

Speaker 3 (59:37):
Yes, I like to comment, So all right, anyway, Carly,
sorry so much going on size and proportions. I mean,
it's the Order of the Phoenix soft cover book. I
don't think it's got any special proportions from the regular

(59:59):
soft cover was offered for sale, does it?

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
Mm hmm, No.

Speaker 4 (01:00:06):
That I don't. I don't have I have I do.

Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
I'm just not going to get up and go into
the book I pulled out.

Speaker 4 (01:00:15):
I pulled out the uh oh, perfect, Is that the same?
It's the exact same, Okay, okay, so it's the same
size and proportions as.

Speaker 3 (01:00:22):
The Yeah, I would say for me, it's probably acceptable.
I mean in size and proportions, it's a good thick book.

Speaker 4 (01:00:31):
It's acceptable for me. There's no way this is the
thickest book in the series, making it a paperback. It's
just gonna never be perfect. Yeah, there's no way. So
but but it's fine. Honestly, it's fine. So acceptable.

Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
I say acceptable as well, just because it's right in
the middle of the tot scale, because it's like it's
it's there's nothing special about it. Proportion wise, it's the
exact same proportion as the paperback. So it's separating the
two because it is a different book, but it's the
same book. So I'm just gonna go right in the
middle of the taxcal yep.

Speaker 5 (01:01:05):
All right, I'm gonna I'm gonna give it an E.
And here's why, Peter, hold them up, hold them up again,
like the two next to each other.

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
I think that I.

Speaker 5 (01:01:15):
I feel like you get like a stouter, more cozy
feeling from the book Expo of America because of the
fact that it doesn't obviously I know, it's the exact
same size, right, but if you look at it next
to the other one where it has the text on
the front, this one being it doesn't have the text
on the front, it makes it appear a bit more

(01:01:37):
stout just visually the size and proportions are.

Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
I just appreciate them more. I don't know that's it.
I'm giving it because I like it. I like a nice,
chunky book whatever. Eric.

Speaker 5 (01:01:53):
Eric is holding his book up next to and an copytish.

Speaker 4 (01:02:00):
Version of the First Time.

Speaker 3 (01:02:01):
That's super tiny.

Speaker 6 (01:02:03):
It's like as white as it.

Speaker 4 (01:02:04):
It looks like you can get it in a McDonald's
happy meal. It is like the smallest thing ever, like
a pamphlet on like a like a water project that
your local community wants to.

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
Yes, oh yeah, I'm still doing things. How does the
book feel in your hands? And I'm actually gonna say
either exceeds expectations are outstanding because I love how how
it feels in my hand.

Speaker 6 (01:02:31):
I love everything about it.

Speaker 4 (01:02:35):
I'm going e I like it too. I like the
feel of the covers.

Speaker 6 (01:02:39):
Yeah, the feel of the cover is nice.

Speaker 3 (01:02:41):
It's smooth, it doesn't catch, and I feel like it's
a little bit more rounded here, so it falls into
my hand really well. It's not super heavy, so I
can read it should I ever want to, and it
would be fine.

Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
I also give it a knee.

Speaker 6 (01:03:04):
Also to give it in Hey jet guys, yep, does
the regular copy?

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
I never mind. I'm going to save it for possibly
my X factor, every mine, very mine, stay tuned.

Speaker 6 (01:03:19):
Cover art or load. We're quality quality of the book.

Speaker 4 (01:03:24):
M M.

Speaker 3 (01:03:26):
Mine has it.

Speaker 4 (01:03:26):
I'm only going acceptable. Yeah, it's it's really hard for
a paperback book this big unless they do something extra
special about it to not damage really easily when you're
just reading it, especially just how thin the glue is
on the spine and how thin the cover is. So
it's fine. I wouldn't expect any more from a paperback.

(01:03:47):
I definitely could have had less.

Speaker 6 (01:03:50):
We've seen less.

Speaker 4 (01:03:53):
I'm it's an a for me. It's fine.

Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
I'm gonna say acceptable to poor only because the paper
itself is really starting to oxidize. This is why it
got put up in my rare book cabinet that values
increased dramatically. But it's really starting to oxidize. It's really
starting to brown. The paper's really drying out. And I

(01:04:16):
feel like at this point, if for some reason not
that I would, if you were to like fold one
of the corners because I'm reading it, it would tear
off the corner instead.

Speaker 6 (01:04:26):
Of fold it. So the paper is really starting to
dry out. It's not the best quality.

Speaker 3 (01:04:30):
Same with the cover of your Yeah cover, it's really
oxidizing pretty good, So I'm probably gonna put this in
a archival quality bag and keep it on my rare
bookshelf if I'm being honest.

Speaker 4 (01:04:45):
Well, I should do that too. I have a whole
bunch of bags.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
It's a poor for me. Well yeah, for similar similar reasons.

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
Yeah, yeah, I was also going to say poor.

Speaker 5 (01:04:54):
I feel like it's just so hard to have like
a good quality paperback and not for nothing this book.
The second you open this book up to any degree,
you are cracking that spine, and like we I feel
like we all had to be super super careful trying
to smell the book to not open it too much
because the spine, like my spine was ready, she was

(01:05:18):
ready to crack.

Speaker 6 (01:05:19):
She's too big.

Speaker 4 (01:05:20):
I don't think mine's I don't think mine's ever been read.

Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
I don't think so.

Speaker 5 (01:05:23):
Yours is beautiful. Yours is absolutely beautiful, tonight beauty.

Speaker 4 (01:05:29):
Hello.

Speaker 3 (01:05:31):
Yeah, let's see interpretation of cover art or cover art itself.
I oh, yeah, So the deluxe order of the Phoenix
art on the hardcover, I'm not the biggest fan of.
I think it's because the deluxe books themselves, I'm not

(01:05:53):
the biggest fan of.

Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
So I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:05:57):
I think I'm an e.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
Sorry I didn't hear a word you said, because we're
all like dancing while you were.

Speaker 4 (01:06:04):
We're all doing Yeah, we're all doing the outstanding.

Speaker 3 (01:06:07):
Fine, outstanding. I'll be peer pressured. I'll go outstanding, but
only on this book.

Speaker 6 (01:06:15):
I'll like it on the hardcover.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
Just do this for fun, Oh my arm.

Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
No, I absolutely give it an outstanding, amazing cover, our
amazing interpretation.

Speaker 3 (01:06:29):
Just I love the big owl.

Speaker 6 (01:06:33):
I do love that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
I love all the owl We've got the Grandmall Place. Yeah,
it's done. It's almost ghostly, and it's you can see
it's in the windows and you see the the Order
of the Phoenix flying in to grim Old Place. Dumbledore's
glasses are which I don't know why Dumbledore's glasses are
hanging on the fence, but his glasses are hanging on

(01:06:57):
the fence. Wait is that? No, that's not in Wait
why would she just put his glasses? I think.

Speaker 4 (01:07:09):
I think they're just a rand I think that's just
a random pair of glasses.

Speaker 6 (01:07:12):
The half moon spectacles.

Speaker 4 (01:07:14):
Though, Yeah, that's like you know what, y'all, he is
not the only one in the United Kingdom with half
moon Yes he is.

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
Yeah, Okay, fine, he's very special.

Speaker 4 (01:07:29):
I think this might be my X factor. But the letter, you.

Speaker 1 (01:07:39):
We can have the same one, go for it.

Speaker 4 (01:07:40):
No, we can have the same one. Yeah. That that
that is like the coolest detail to me on this
cover that you don't even really notice, Like you're like,
what is that like a sock on the ground, Like
it's the letter that Dumbledore wrote so that Harry can
read it, so he now knows the secret and can
go into the fadailies and go into number twelve grim

(01:08:01):
Old Place.

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
Yeah that is so cool.

Speaker 4 (01:08:04):
But yeah, sorry, well no, it's okay.

Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
That that I had, So there's that.

Speaker 4 (01:08:10):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:08:10):
Well, I mean I did have Dumblore's glasses, even though
it's weird. But I also love that the spine twelve
grim all placed the door the place spine. Yeah, but
then you've got the letter under there that's burning. It's
just brilliant. So cool.

Speaker 5 (01:08:30):
Yeah, I mean the interpretation, I like, I prefer this
cover art over like the standard order of the Phoenix.

Speaker 6 (01:08:36):
Oh yeah, I would agree.

Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
With that one thousand percent. I think it's just it's gorgeous.

Speaker 5 (01:08:44):
Yeah, I mean I obviously would give it an O
for interpretship with cover art. I love the placement of
number twelve right on the spine. I think is genius.
I also love that the whole thing is blue. But
to use Carly's the juxtaposition of the red stars on it,
like in the sky goes really well with this, like

(01:09:07):
the Scholastic logo. Like, I think that it's kind of cool.
It makes that like pop a little bit. But I
do like the like the red stars. I think it's
super super super cool. Yeah, I absolutely am crazy about
this cover art, so so nice and I love it.

(01:09:28):
It doesn't have anything else on it, Like it's just
not impeded, like you could just the entire thing. I
think incredibly nice.

Speaker 6 (01:09:39):
I agree.

Speaker 4 (01:09:40):
I think this little critter above this the Scholastic logo
is something or do we just think it's a little critter.

Speaker 6 (01:09:47):
It looks like a mouse.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
I mean it could be. It could be like a
Peter Pettigrew nod.

Speaker 4 (01:09:52):
Yeah, she already put Peter Pettigrew in the Enter of
Azkaban cover could be which is it's it's he's in there,
it's it's the it's like a tiny little on the
inside flap, there's like a little rat on there. But

(01:10:14):
I don't think it's the same one, so I think
go on.

Speaker 3 (01:10:20):
Oh, I was just gonna say what I think my
X factor is because I really don't like this cover
art on the deluxe US Deluxe editions, but I'm also
fed up with the US Delexe editions because of things.
But I love it on the soft cover, so I
love that it is a soft cover thing, like, not

(01:10:40):
even that it's a special edition. I love that they
put this on a soft cover because I really do
enjoy it. I don't know what the difference is. I
really don't, but I love that they did that, So
I think that's mine.

Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
Did I say next factor?

Speaker 4 (01:11:04):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (01:11:05):
I mean what I was going to say was, I
don't know if this isn't like the standard copies of
Order of the Phoenix, but like, I like that there's
a blurb about Mary Graham Prey in the back, like
there's the about the author, but then there's also an
about the illustrator.

Speaker 4 (01:11:23):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:11:23):
I want to look for that because I don't prefer
I think there is. I think there is in all
the books. I think so because I remember.

Speaker 2 (01:11:32):
Reading realized this was from Sarasota.

Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
Yeah, there's.

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
One of my best friends is in Sarasota.

Speaker 4 (01:11:40):
Who does she live with? Who does she live with
in Sarasota, Mary grand Pray, Yeah, with her family.

Speaker 1 (01:11:47):
She has a daughter, her husband.

Speaker 4 (01:11:49):
I know, I know. It says it right in the back.
She lives in Sarasota with her family.

Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
Way too literal over here, little silly goose.

Speaker 4 (01:11:58):
Do you happen to know if she illustrated? Plumb?

Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
Sure? Yeah, because I think that that's pretty sure.

Speaker 1 (01:12:06):
Because it's now now I'm now I'm catching on.

Speaker 4 (01:12:12):
It's getting late.

Speaker 5 (01:12:13):
I'm very tired, so by getting late, it's an hour
later for me than it is for everybody, and two
hours later than Carly.

Speaker 2 (01:12:22):
Yep, I'm gonna be rough when Daylight Savings hits.

Speaker 3 (01:12:25):
Although I didn't sleep last night, so my yesterday continued tilt.

Speaker 5 (01:12:30):
Now it's still yesterday, it technically is, but still yesterday.

Speaker 3 (01:12:38):
I have showered, so I'm not wearing the same stuff
as yesterday, literally, so that that's at least a point
in my book.

Speaker 2 (01:12:45):
That's good. Yeah, that's good.

Speaker 5 (01:13:06):
Well, so it does not continue into yesterday later, We're
gonna say that that's all the time that we have
for today's episode of Dialogue ALI Podcasts. So if you
want to find us, there are many different ways that
you can do that. We're all on Instagram, at All
the Pretty Books, Nocturn, Eric, the Harry Potter Collection, The

(01:13:29):
Potter Collector.

Speaker 2 (01:13:29):
And at Dialogue Ali podcast.

Speaker 5 (01:13:33):
If you want to use our interactive flow chart or
see any other information about Harry Potter books, there's a
link to Carl's website. There's a link to Peter's website
right on our website, which is Dialogue Ali dot com.
You can find us on all sorts of o their
social media. You can always find Peter's videos. The Potter

(01:13:57):
Collector on YouTube is back at It into Potter Stuff's
on there.

Speaker 2 (01:14:07):
His play season is done for done so for.

Speaker 1 (01:14:10):
Now break season? Play season?

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
Yeah yeah, play season.

Speaker 1 (01:14:19):
I thought you know, I didn't. It's it's so, I'm
it's okay, Yeah, I know. I'm sorry I interrupted you.
But to Eric's point about like we're all tired, like
I when you said place, I was thinking like play
like it was playtime, you know, Peter's do things now?

Speaker 2 (01:14:37):
Play like play like the play you were in. I
was going to ask, do you know what? Do you
know what the next play you're going to be in
is going to be.

Speaker 1 (01:14:47):
Maybe I know, but I am deciding if I'm going
to do it or not.

Speaker 4 (01:14:52):
Joseph to jose it's an off off Broadway, the Black
and White Yeah cult following these past ten.

Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
Years, maybe or maybe not. Hello Dolly in the summer.

Speaker 4 (01:15:12):
If you're if you're in something, we could all make
a trip and then we could also go to that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:21):
I'm on like a Saturday, so that we can hang out,
because I don't want you to like be here and
then it's like I have to be in plays while
you guys are having fun and I have to be
on stage.

Speaker 3 (01:15:30):
So they would just send you like videos and then
you could live VI carriy No, that'd be so sad.

Speaker 2 (01:15:41):
I wouldn't do that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:43):
A planet perfectly. Let's make it happen, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:15:47):
Well.

Speaker 5 (01:15:48):
To keep up to date with all of our Dialogue
Ali Shenanigans, Yeah, please follow us on any whatever social
media is, because then if we're going to all be
hanging out with Peter, y'all know about it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:01):
If you want to be even more.

Speaker 5 (01:16:02):
Involved with the stuff with Dialogue Ali, you could also
support us on Patreon, which gives you access to our discord.
We're also on Peter's Discord. We were kind of chatting
about that today, but we have like a little tab
on the Potter Collector Discord, so it's like another place
that you can kind of get ahold of us.

Speaker 4 (01:16:20):
But there's one member that uses that pretty frequently. It's me.
I'm the only one that ever hosts anything on that.
It's me. And then like some random like one person
will give it like a thumbs up, like all right,
the new episodes out, it's like one guy's like.

Speaker 2 (01:16:37):
I love that.

Speaker 4 (01:16:39):
It's probably in Cheyenne, Wyoming. Who knows episode it's me.

Speaker 1 (01:16:45):
It's my my my private.

Speaker 2 (01:16:52):
Liking all gives you a thumbs up every single time.
It's just programmed to do so just.

Speaker 4 (01:17:00):
Oh man, you mentioned, we mentioned, we talked all about
our flow chart. Even if you know exactly what you have,
we would really appreciate if if any of you listening
that have American Harry Potter books, just go through it
with your books and if you find something that doesn't
look right or yeah, something, please please let us know.

Speaker 1 (01:17:19):
Yeah, like kind of it's in like the beta stage,
so yeah, I mean, and you know what all the
big companies do is they send the beta out and
let us test it out so yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:17:33):
Yeah, let us let us know what you think. We
appreciate the feedback so so so so much so yeah,
shout it on out. But for now it is time
to walk.

Speaker 2 (01:17:45):
Back through the archway and into our daily live sample.
Catch you next time.

Speaker 4 (01:17:52):
Bye bye

Speaker 5 (01:17:55):
Yeah

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