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January 1, 2025 62 mins

We reflect on an incredible year filled with memorable fishing experiences, storytelling, and community connection. Join us as we share our highlights, lessons learned, and exciting plans for the year ahead.

• Sharing our Sportsman Show experiences 
• Recap of our successful giveaway and community engagement 
• Building a friendship with Rick Payne, our giveaway winner 
• Adventures exploring the Northwest Territories and the Mackenzie River 
• Insights gained at Brabant Lodge and fishing techniques 
• Adventures in catching and releasing fish sustainably 
• Memorable mishaps and laughs shared on the lake 
• Looking forward to exciting fishing trips in 2025 

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Speaker 2 (00:00):
This episode of Diaries of a Lodge Owner is
brought to you by Nordic PointLodge a luxury outdoor
experience with five-starservice.
It's a very cool experience tobe on the boat and watching a

(00:23):
raw episode of the fish incanada television show unfold in
front of your eyes the day thatI did it with you and dean, it
was the coolest thing I've.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
I can say it was in the top five coolest things I've
ever experienced in my life,just because I learned so much
this week on the outdoor journalradio podcast networks.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Diaries of a Lodge Owner Stories of the North.
Our Merry Christmases have beensaid.
Santa helped us out last weekwith our intro, which was
totally exciting for me.
It was an honor to hear fromSanta.
And now it's Happy New Year'stime.
So here is a heartfelt HappyNew Year's to all of you, our

(01:07):
Diaries family.
And with that comes our year inreview On this show.
Will and I look back on the yearthat was, tell some great
stories from behind the scenes,share some memories and have
some laughs.
So if you like great stories,folks, grab your horns and

(01:28):
noisemakers and let's bring inthe new year together.
Here's our conversation on theyear that was.
Welcome, folks, to anotherepisode of Diaries of a Lodge
Owner Stories of the North.
And this is a big one.

(01:49):
And it's a big one because it'sa first for me.
It is the New Year's Year inReview and I've been involved in
a lot of these with the Fish inCanada television show and the
Outdoor Journal radio podcastand even back in the old Outdoor

(02:13):
Journal radio days.
But this is a first for Diariesand Willie and I are real
excited to be here with youtoday and taking uh, taking a
look at this past year.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
Good morning, willie morning folks, morning stevie,
morning everybody.
How was uh?
How are we today?

Speaker 2 (02:32):
might not be morning when you're listening, but it's
morning for us ah, it's morningfor us.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
You know, I bet you a lot of listeners do listen in
the mornings.
I'm guessing this is like adrive to work, flip on steve and
will's tranquil voices andrelax you all the way to work,
or it stresses them the fuck outand they still just love us
anyways, because we're crazyyeah, well, I like, I mean it.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Uh, it also could be a um, you know, an evening
listen.
That's very sensual and youknow they're using our voices to
feel good.
You know that's a horrible sign.
I love that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But anyway, however you'reusing this, folks, we love it

(03:17):
Nice, nice, well, awesome.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
This is yeah, I'm excited to do this one the
Christmas special last week andnow a little year in review, you
know, and you know it's been awild year.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Oh, yeah, but like.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
I know, personally and business-wise between me and
you it's been wild.
I know the podcast has beenwild.
Your fishing episodes have beenwild.
You know it's been lots oftraveling going on and I even
got you on the old horse and gotyou back tournament fishing.
Yeah, you know what I mean.

(03:53):
Like it was 2024 was a fun year.
Why don't you start off, stevie, and talk about your year?

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Yeah, I certainly will, and this year, uh, for me,
was a great year, um, uh, westarted off, uh, january and
actually I'll start with the um,with the sportsman show, uh, um
, because, uh, that is where, uh, where, we met you will, willie

(04:24):
?
Well, I met you at theSportsman Show a year prior to.
Yeah, we met the year beforeand we started our advertising
campaign together right afterthe Sportsman Show this year, I
think.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
No, no, we started January.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
Maybe it was before.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
Yeah, we did two episodes before and then you
were addicted to Willie and youwere like, oh, I got to have
this guy.
Yeah, yeah, you're before.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
And then you were addicted to Willie and you were
like, oh, I got to have this guy.
Yeah, yeah, you're right,You're right.
So we started that advertisingcampaign and that giveaway was a
great giveaway.
That was awesome.
Yeah, Rick Payne actually wonthat giveaway.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
What a crazy thing.
Hey, let's talk about that fora minute.
So the giveaway folks was likewe gave a trip away for Nordic
on the Fish in Canada on theOutdoor Journal, radio Network
Stories of the North or Diariesof the Love Journal, stories of
the North.
Then it was also promoted onFish in Canada.
There was a shitload of peoplethat went on that uh giveaway

(05:29):
like I can't remember what deansaid, but the numbers they said
were wild, eh yeah, the numberswere outstanding and rick pain
ends up with, so the guy ends upwinning.
it is like and this is no BS,he's like what?
20 miles from my lodge?

Speaker 2 (05:50):
As the crow flies.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
Like I don't even know how that's possible.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
You know he yeah how many entries did he put in, did
he say oh yeah, like I mean,rick was one of the top entering
people.
He was up over 2,000 entries.
Like he was, he rocked it.
There was every extra ballot hegot he worked for and put it in

(06:16):
the hat and you know what itpaid off because that was an
outstanding trip and we got toknow Rick and Rick turned out to
be an absolutely phenomenal guyGreat guy.
We had him on our show yeah,works with the forest

(06:38):
firefighters.
Actually he's the guy when itcomes to fighting forest fire in
Ontario.
Actually, he's the guy when itcomes to fighting forest fire in
Ontario.
And not only that is anoutstanding moose hunter and
caller.
And he ended up building arelationship with you, willie.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
Why don't you talk a little bit about that
relationship?
It was crazy about thatrelationship, yeah, no, it was
crazy.
So when Rick came up after hehad won the trip, he'd won the
trip and he reached out to meand we'd spoke on the phone and
I thought it was completelyridiculous that he was that far,
that close to me and you knowone community over, being Dryden

(07:21):
, you know, and he's the headfire dispatch chief for all of
northern Ontario.
You know he's he's.
He was a really interesting guy, I thought.
But then I remember you and Ithink we were like it was some
kind of chaos we had going onwhen we shot the show that
that's coming up here in Januarythat you guys shot, and Rick

(07:43):
kind of was in the backgroundand he had some suggestions and
I was like this, this guy's,this guy's smart, like I, like
him and and I really I justlistened kind of.
I kind of stand back and watchpeople a little bit.
I'm a people watcher and I'mpretty good at reading their
body language and I just reallyliked Rick right off the hop.
So I approached him.

(08:03):
You know like you want to comeguide.
You know you're an outdoors guy, you work for the M&R.
You know you're following theFish and Canada show and the
Outdoor Journal Radio Networkand our podcast.
I took a shot in the dark and hesaid yes, and he was great.
The guests love him.
You know it took a bit to learnthe lake but he's great.

(08:26):
He actually went out.
He called me the other day.
He went out and he boughtWillie.
I bought a live scope.
He says Nice, oh yeah, he's anydays you've got for me on the
water this year I'm there,willie.
I'm like, okay, buddy, thankyou.
Well, and then it went one stepfurther than that.
So he guided.
I think he did like 10 tripsfor me this year.

(08:47):
You know he was busy, yeah, butthen yeah then I remember you,
you were up on the family, yourfamily trip, and he came into
camp and he was doing some kindof moose calls.
I didn't hear him the firsttime I heard him that was for
the fish in canada.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
No, he came back.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
The second time.
I didn't hear him the firsttime.
You guys, you guys all did, andI don't know where.
I think I was dealing withsomething at the lodge, but I
wasn't able to hear him thefirst time and I just heard
everybody say how good he was.
So when I think you, you andmelissa were on the flyout, I
think, with the kids and he cameinto camp and he was showing me
and I was like fuck, this guy'sreally really good, like I

(09:23):
don't even know what good is,but I imagine that this guy's
really really good, like I don'teven know what good is, but I
imagine that this guy is reallygood.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
It sounded impressive , yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
And yeah, so he ended up doing a couple moose hunts
for me this year too.
So, yeah, crazy story, I meanlike how that came full circle
for him winning the trip to, youknow, and that was kind of our
introduction, you know, a couplemonths before that, and then
kim coming full circle and nowhe's working for us or working
for yeah well and and, uh, that,um, that moose calling that he

(09:51):
was, that he did when, um, whenI was there on the shoot with
angin, pete and dean, um he did,he did a whole compilation of
different moose calls and hebuilt his own moose call.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
It's this big carbon fiber.
I think he was making it acarbon fiber or fiberglass, I'm
not sure which one, but it's amassive horn that he built and
it's awesome.
It can take a beating.
He just throws it over his backand trudges through the bush

(10:29):
with this thing.
And what a great, a greatcaller and interesting guy he's.
Actually we had him on, I hadhim on the show.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
Oh, I love that story he told.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Quite a while ago.
Yeah, yeah, and he's, it was agreat show.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
It was like episode 30 or something like that right
around there.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
Yeah, yeah, and he's got great stories and you know
you really should give that alisten, folks.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
I love when he's explaining the moose calls, when
he's like you know, if you wanthim to just come and look at
you, you do this, and then ifyou want him to come and get a
little frisky, you do this.
Yeah, it just makes me laugh.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Yeah, I know he's a wonderful guy.
Thanks, rick, it was a great.
That was a serendipitous winfor you and a win for us as well
.
So that was great and actuallythat was the first Fish in
Canada.
Shoot for us was Nordic Point,which will be airing, by the way

(11:39):
, on the first Saturday morningin January, I believe.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
Yeah, that's what Dean said.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yeah, so that's that one, and then from there we
started down the road of shootsthis year, and this year was a
fairly great year for me as faras shoots go.
I saw the Northwest Territoriesfor the first time.

(12:09):
We got back, we got fish inCanada back into the Northwest
Territories.
That's awesome.
And yeah, we fished theMackenzie River at Brabant Lodge
and I did one podcast there andum uh, a second as well, but
that second one's still in thecan because uh, the um, the

(12:34):
generator, um, at uh, brabantLodge the day that we were
shooting.
Well, actually it was um, itwas a small generator because
the big generator was out, youknow, but it was okay when
you're up in the wilderness likethat, and it was a fairly small
group too.
So I think there was our crewand then one other crew we were

(13:00):
the first group in and there wasissues with the main generator
well, the backup generator andthe main generator so we were on
the third backup generator.
The portable and when we weredoing it it let go or broke down
or whatever, and we didn't endup finishing it.

(13:22):
But I've got to talk to um,talk to peter, uh from brabant,
and uh, get that one finished upbecause there were some great
stories in that.
But uh, where did you guys flyin there, steve?

Speaker 3 (13:35):
like.
So I, I, I folks remember this.
I told a story a long time agoI think, like the second podcast
.
I was shot with you orsomething like that, and it was
I got I had to sleep in thatsteel seat can because the
chopper couldn't come back andget me that night.
So so all of that area that Iwas talking about, we were, we

(13:58):
were northwest of the mackenzieriver, on the mackenzie delta,
so so we went in, I think I toldyou in the yellow knife, and
then we helicoptered out to aplace called Wrigley, and
Wrigley is right on the, on theMackenzie river.
It's a town, it's a, I thinkit's a, a native community or an
Inuit community right on theriver.

(14:18):
And then we choppered Northwestinto the Delta, up where this,
where the, where the bitumen was.
So where did you guys go whenyou were up there?
Like how did you get in there?
Because that's a really fuckingdesolate area, like of canada
yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
So what we did was, um, we flew direct from toronto
to yellow knife, which was greatair canada, they've got a
direct flight out there now.
So, yeah, and that was, thatwas awesome, we didn't we.
It didn't work out that wecould catch the direct flight
back, but, um, we, uh, we flewstraight into, uh, yellowknife

(14:58):
and then from Yellowknife, um,we, uh, we jumped on an amphib,
so, uh, uh, a plane with wheelsand pontoons.
And um, no, no, sorry I'm wrongwe, uh, we got onto a small, uh
commuter jet, so, um, there mayhave been enough room in there

(15:20):
for 20 people and flew fromyellowknife to Hay River, but
you don't have to make thatflight all the time.
No, that's a connection.
We just had commissioned withthe territory to do some
shooting in Hay River andpromote that little town.
And Hay River's actually on thesouth side of Great Slave Lake,

(15:45):
the Yellowknife's on the northside, Hay River's on the south
side, southwest corner really,and then from Hay River we took
the Amphib and flew directly toBrabant Lodge on the McKenzie
and they're right at the mouthof the McKenzie river, basically
on great slave Lake.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
Oh, okay, so you weren't too far.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Okay, so I yeah we weren't too far Like to get out
to great slave Lake.
You could do it by boat, butPeter doesn't do that anymore.
They used to go out and do itbut it's like a, you know, a
four hour trip to get out towhere they would fish and then

(16:29):
they'd have to come back andGreat Slave Lake is like an
ocean, folks.
I believe it's the secondlargest lake by water mass in
the world, freshwater, second toa lake in Russia, second
largest lake by water mass inthe world Freshwater, second to
a lake in Russia.
And I had no idea, me being afishing Canada guy, how deep.

(16:56):
I couldn't believe how deepthis lake is Like.
Do you know how deep the GreatSlave Lake?

Speaker 3 (17:04):
is no, I don't.
I've fished Slave and I'vefished Great Bear.
I've fished both.
Oh, that's awesome, but I never.
But no, steve, I never.
What is it?

Speaker 2 (17:14):
There are areas in Great Slave that are over 2,200
feet deep.
It's like the ocean.

Speaker 3 (17:22):
That's crevasse.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
Yeah, there is shit down there that we have never
seen.
Wow, yeah, yeah.
But so anyway, peter, in that,in the podcast that I did, that
we haven't, that we haven'treleased yet cause it's not
finished he tells, told a storyabout he guided for Brabant

(17:46):
before he bought it and when hewas guiding for them they got
out to this area that they liketo fish on the lake and then the
weather blew in and he saidthey barely made it back with
those, with their people, he,they, they were in you know 10,

(18:07):
12 foot waves in 16 footaluminum boats, you know, with
40s or whatever.
I got to get that podcast donebecause it's a crazy crazy story
.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
Yeah, give them a call and finish it up and then
just get the boys to edit ittogether.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
Yeah, it took them.
Yeah, for sure.
On this day in particular, ittook them like nine hours to get
home.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
And the water there is all.
It doesn't matter if it'ssummer.
No, it's freezing all the time.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Yes, it's never warm, it's always cold.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
Yeah, always yeah, but and then Not great pike
fishing, though you said, ehLike in the same.
Oh, that's what we went for.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
Yeah, that's what we went for was the pike, and I'll
end with that.
But we also fished grayling andthe grayling fishing was pretty
cool.
We just anchored, like with theboat we would put it on anchor
into the current and the currentis two to four mile an hour,

(19:09):
like there's some seriouscurrent ripping through there,
and we were fishing four feet ofwater like you could see the
grayling ripping beside the boatlike it was.
It was like you ever caught themum, I actually caught grayling,
uh, for the first time in 2019,when we were shooting with

(19:31):
Earth at Northern Rockies Lodgeand we did a fly out and I got
some grayling with Earth.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
That's cool.
I've never caught one.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
But these grayling were really big, like the
grayling with Urs.
They were smaller, like maybepound, pound and a half, and on
the fly, mind you, and it waslike a river runs through it.
We were in our hip, waders,standing in a beautiful stream,

(20:08):
and Urs showed me how toefficiently cast with, uh, with
the fly rod and and I caught uhgrayling on the fly, but this
was, um, we, uh.
I was in the boat with ang theone night in particular, and we
were using these micro yozuri,um, uh, crankbaits, and I'm

(20:28):
telling you they were tiny, likemaybe three-eighths of an inch
long, smallest ones we couldfind, with a single cywash hook
off the back of them, and um, um.
I figured out that, um, becausewe were trying to cast them and
uh, and retrieve them, but thecurrent was so strong and and

(20:50):
they weren't, they just weren'treacting to it.
So I was basically justtrolling, but we weren't moving.
We were anchored in the currentand the current was carrying the
bait back and as soon as youflip the bail, then your bait's
working in the current and Iwould just keep that bait
running back and sometimes youcould see them.

(21:10):
But you know what?
It was funny if you could seethem, they weren't.
I couldn't, I couldn't get themto react to the bait.
It was always way back behindthe boat and we caught um three
or well, I caught personallythree or four that night, and
ang did the same or better, andpete and Dean were in the other

(21:30):
other boat.
Um, and they did fairly welltoo, but um, and I don't even
know if we shot that, like Idon't think we shot that, but um
, it was, uh, it was a greatevening and there at in June,
man it's, it's it's daytime andevening all the time.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, you know yeah, it's like 22
hours, 23 hours of sun.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
Yeah, like it got dark.
Well, it didn't get dark thesun.
We had a sunset at 1230 andthat sunset ended at 3 am, when
the sun come back up.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
It is the craziest thing, like I remember coming
out of the bar and we'd come infrom the rig and before we went
back to Edmonton.
I remember coming out of thebar and in, uh, you know, we'd
come in from the rig and beforewe went back to Edmonton I
remember we stayed in town for anight the yellow knife and we'd
come out.
It was called the raven, wasthe bar, and we'd come out of
the raven at.
You know, back in the day, youknow early 2000s or you know

(22:28):
late 90s.
It was like two in the morning2, 30 in the morning, right bars
closed, what's freaking broaddaylight?
Right, it was like two in themorning 2, 30 in the morning,
right bars closed, what'sfreaking broad daylight, right,
it's like it is the craziestthing.
When you first come out you'relike is it really 2, 30 in the
morning?
Like yeah, yeah, it's it right.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
It takes a bit to wrap your head around it for a
while well, when we were inyellow knife, when we landed,
like when, before we headed out,we spent a night in yellow
knife.
So we went to the um.
We got there.
Everybody's excited, you know,like I mean, it's the beginning
of the shoot, it's a new place,it's uh, I had never been to to

(23:03):
yellow knife and uh, we gotchecked into the hotel and um
started walking downtown andthis would have been probably
about 2, 3 o'clock in theafternoon.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
Oh nice.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Nobody had really eaten anything because it was
all travel.
And we're walking down thestreet and Ange is like, well,
you know, I think it's probablytime for an honest bunch of
fellas to grab a bite to eat.
And we were like, yeah, that'sbut sounded good to me, right,

(23:34):
because I was hungry.
Anyway, as he's saying this,we're walking down the street, I
look to my left and I see thiskind of restaurant-y looking
place and the name of it wasHarley's.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
Oh, Harley's Hard Rock Saloon.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
Yeah, yeah.
And I'm saying, and Ange islike wow, I'm a bike guy, heck
yeah.
And we're like, yeah, yeah, youknow what, they probably got
good food in there.
So we all decide, yep, you knowwhat, Although this place looks
a little bit rough on theoutside, we're going in there

(24:11):
for lunch.
So we walk in and there's agirl behind the bar.
There's a girl sitting on a barstool at the bar and two older
gentlemen sitting there, and theplace is empty, other than that
.
But it doesn't look like atypical restaurant.

(24:32):
So we're standing there and I'mlooking around and Pete's
looking around and everybodyDean and Vova and Ange and I see
at the front of the bar there'slike a little stage, Tiny
little stage, yeah, a littlestage and a pole.

(24:54):
And I said to Peter I said,geez, you know what, If I didn't
know any better, I'd say thiswas a stripper.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
You're going for fever sandwiches, buddy.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
Yeah, and Peter says yeah, you know, maybe, but I
don't know, because the stagewas small and it had like a
bench all the way around theoutside of the outside wall.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
It was like a hockey rink.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
Yeah, with tables all out there and there wasn't
really a pervert's row Like Imean, it was just kind of a
place.
Anyway, didn't really look likethat.
And the girl behind the bar,she sees our confusion and she
says, hey, what are you doing?
And Peter says, oh well, wewere maybe looking to get a bite

(25:41):
to eat.
She said, well, you can get abite to eat here, but you got to
order what did she say orderUber, not Uber Eats.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
Uber Eats to the dollar.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
Yeah.
And Peter said, oh, and nowPeter's in a conversation, so
we're all just kind of standingthere and she's like, yeah, what
do you think this place is?
She says something like thatand Peter said I don't know.
She says, well, you see thatpole up there there's

(26:13):
firefighters upstairs.
They use that pole to getdownstairs.
This is where the firefighterscome down.
Peter's like he starts laughing, right, because obviously
there's no hole in the roof.
And she said no, there's nofirefighters, it's the strippers
.
And she said there's nofirefighters, it's the strippers
.
And uh, she said there's,there's no girls gonna be

(26:34):
stripping until I forget whattime six o'clock or some, some
damn thing.
But we were like I know youknow what, maybe we'll get.
Uh, we'll get.
Uh, oh, she wanted to sell usdrinks.
Oh, yeah, um, but uh, withoutthe food, we just, we just took
off and uh, and laughed I forgetwhat she said that is the
funniest thing ever.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
So the night that we were there in town we ended up
there in the same kind ofscenario.
Not for food, we were just likekind of a shock and awe of the
size of that little place.
I actually bought a sweater andI think I still have it like
tucked away from that place justlike as a memory and it.
It was crazy man, like I think.

(27:13):
The guy said they flew up twodancers and they did male
strippers in there too once aweek.
Oh really, oh yeah, becausethere's lots of females that
work at them, gold mines upthere, or diamond mines up there
, right Tons, yeah, so they havethe females for six days a week
and the males for one day aweek and they just fly them in
from edmonton and vancouver, theguy was telling us that's crazy
well when we got off the planeat the at the airport, peter and

(27:39):
I uh, you know, after flying,like us older fellas got to take
a leak.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
So walk into the bathroom.
Peter's standing at one of theurinals.
I, uh, I, I pull up to a urinaland then Pete starts laughing.
He finishes up, he's washinghis hands and he starts laughing
.
He's like Steve, steve, look atthis.
So I look over and there's thisplastic like a bin stuck to the

(28:07):
wall in the airport, full ofcondoms, and it says right on it
it says there is a syphilisoutbreak in the Yukon, use
protection, or something likethat.
I took a picture of it becausemy buddy well, actually he's a
very good friend of my youngerbrother His name is Davey Zettel

(28:30):
and he's head of infectiousdiseases in the territory.
So I took that picture, notthinking I was going to use it.
And when we walked by, when Ifigured out what Harley's was, I
texted Davey.

(28:51):
I said, davey, I was atHarley's last night, should I be
worried?
And I texted him a picture ofthe syphilis outbreak sign from
the airport.
He was laughing, yeah, and hesaid nah, I think you'll be all
right.
Oh, yeah, yeah, it washilarious.

(29:11):
We didn't go, but yeah, no, Isent you'll be all right.

Speaker 6 (29:13):
Oh yeah, yeah, it was hilarious.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
We didn't go, but oh God, that's funny.
Yeah, no, I sent him a sign.
We actually hooked up withDavey at a restaurant there.
It's really a wonderful city,yeah it's super cool.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
Yeah, they have like a.
There's like the business endof it, then there's like the
casual end, you know, and thenthere's like the business end of
it, then there's like thecasual end, you know, and then
there's like the, I know, liketowards, like I guess it would
be like the East end of town.
It's like that's where, likethe true, the actual North story
.
So there used to be stores.
I don't know if you know this,but in the North here where I am

(29:45):
, there used to be like there'sone.
There's an old, abandoned oneabout 40 miles northeast of my
house, up the grassy highway.
It's called on the way toMaynard Lake Lodge and it's
called the Northern Store.
So it was, that's all it wascalled.
And it was in every northerncommunity, like in Black Lake,

(30:07):
uranium City, you know what Imean the Hudson Bay.
You know all those places hadthis one store and they just
shipped across the north.
Well, it had everything.
Right, it was like a.
It had everything for theoutdoors, plus food and supplies
, you know, I mean like a homehardware, but with groceries, I
guess.
Um, super unique, but anyways,they had one of those on the
other side of yellow knife andthere was all the outfitters and

(30:29):
all the canoe builders, thefloat plane places.
You know it was really.
It was a cool town.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
Oh, yeah, well, it almost reminded me being right
on the shore of Slave.
It almost reminded me of anEastern Canada feel.
You know, and um, the, thepeople there were were
outstandingly friendly and justproud of their, of their um city
and and uh, it was a.
It was a really greatexperience.
For those of you who have neverexperienced, uh, the, the North

(31:06):
, like that uh, great slave anduh and yellow knife are, are a
wonderful destination and braveant lodge, like I mean, the.
It's got a world-class dock.
Like I mean, the chef therefished every day off the dock.
We were there for I think itwas four, four full days and in

(31:31):
that time he caught two laketrout off the dock.
One was 13 and the other was 14and a half pounds.
We did a podcast, it wasprobably 45 minutes long, and we
did this podcast standing inone of their boats tied to the
end of the dock and we fishedthat 45 minutes and probably

(31:54):
caught I don't know 15 northernpike and they all were, between
you know, 28 and 38 inches longright off the dock.
Wow, and and that brings me tothe, to the, the, the the best
part about that trip and thatwas the, the Northern Pike

(32:20):
fishing was outstanding, Like Imean we.
I don't think we broke 50 inches, but we come very close man,
that's a big pike yeah, oh yeah,and peter was upset because he
he said no, no, the like, we webreak 50 all the time and, um,
we were a little bit early Ithink, but the way that they

(32:44):
fish these these northern pikein the summertime, peter and I
were like my God, we have tocome back because I love
largemouth bass fishing and allof you out there know Peter is a
bass fishing fanatic and theway they fish these northerns

(33:06):
and the Mackenzie River is very.
It's an interesting riverbecause it is massively wide and
hugely long.
But where we were closer to theDelta, while we were still four
, five, six miles away from themouth, but it was shallow,

(33:27):
average depth was probably 10feet and um, uh, not much deeper
than that really, uh, andthere's lots of places right out
in the middle of the like.
There's one um bay.
They call that, I think theycalled it Beaver Bay, um, but
anyway it was, you know, five,four, four miles wide and 18, 20

(33:54):
miles long.
Just in this one bay and out inthe middle there were shoals
that were three feet, like youknow, the deepest I saw in that
bay was 10 feet.
So there's these.
In the summertime we werefishing like.
At that time we were the firstgroup in, so we were early
spring, which was for up thereis like second week of June,

(34:17):
yeah, but we were fishing ashoal that had a ridge across it
and dropped into deeper waterand did well there.
Well, we fished everywhere, butthat's where the concentration
of the fish were.
But in the summertime, whenthese big, huge fields of weed

(34:39):
grow, they're fishing andflipping like two and a half to
three ounce flipping jigs off oflike big, big flipping sticks,
they're flipping them into theweed clumps and patches For pike
and they're catching 50-inchnorthern that's awesome Flipping

(35:01):
a two-and-a-half-ounce jig head.
That's insane, it's ridiculous,I couldn't imagine.
And when we talk about flippingfolks ridiculous.
I couldn't imagine.
And when we, when we talk aboutflipping folks, we're just
basically a flip is is a you're,you're a flip or a pitch,
they're two.
There's little nuances that aredifferent, but the same it's,

(35:22):
it's the same thing.
You're just taking that jig andyou're, you're pitching it like
10 feet in front of the boat.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
Did you guys film this Like I was fishing?

Speaker 2 (35:30):
at like 10 feet in front of the boat.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
Did you guys film this hey?

Speaker 2 (35:32):
Did you film this?
No, the weed bed hadn't grown.
This is their summer pattern.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
Oh, this is how they're fishing in the summer we
were there right first thing inJune.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
So that's why, peter and I were like oh my.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
God, we've got to come back, right back yeah.

Speaker 4 (35:50):
But, it was ridiculous.

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Speaker 3 (37:39):
You went from northwest territories, brayley,
brace lake, and I think you guyshad some time off.
Where did you go?
You went you talked about outeast before.
I think that's where you wentnext, didn't't you out east?

Speaker 2 (37:50):
Well, we were at you.
Then the boys went and didanother leg of the trip.
I flew home.
I didn't do that leg of thetrip, oh yeah yeah yeah.
Then we went to NorthwestTerritories and that was a
10-day shoot, but you know therewas shooting.

(38:11):
Hay River was a day, maybe.
Yeah, I think it was a solidday.
Three days of travel, it wasonly really.
It turned out to be like fourfull days at Brabant.
We did that, um, so that wasthe territories.
Then, uh, we did Lake Obabaca.
We did Lake Obabaca and thatwas a great experience for us.

(38:39):
Ang didn't come on that shoot,it was just Peter, dean, taylor,
myself and Vova, our camera guy, voldemir Babushkin.
Great guy, love that guy.
Yeah, great guy, love that guy,cool guy.
But so Obabaca was interestingand awesome for Dean and I,

(39:02):
because I think this probablywas one of the first shoots that
Ange wasn't on and Pete didn'tgo on camera.
Dean and I we shot two showsthere.
Dean shot a Lake Trout show, asolo, and I shot a Smallmouth
Bath show a solo.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
Yes, this was your first appearance, so I remember
us talking about this.
On the way to Vanity yes, yeah,I had done which.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
by the way, congratulations to you and Dean.
Oh, that's awesome Like what agreat step for you guys.
Yeah, yeah, it was great.
And that solo.
Now, when you think about solo,it wasn't just Vova myself on
the boat, although that's theway that we frame it in the

(39:47):
picture, but Peter was still onthe boat, he was the.
I guess you was still on theboat.
He was the uh, he was the um.
I guess you would call him adirector.
Uh and um, dean was on the boatas well and um, uh, just
because you know what are wegoing to do, leave Dean, or,
when Dean's shooting, leave meback at the uh, at the cottage,
fishing off the dock.
You know what I mean.

(40:08):
So, um, and it's always good todock.
You know what I mean.
So, um, and it's always good toto be a set of ears.
Um, when you're listening tothe episode as it unfolds like
it's, it's a very coolexperience to be on the boat and
watching um, a raw episode ofthe Fish in Canada television

(40:30):
show unfold in front of youreyes the day that I did it with
you and Dean, it was the coolestthing I've.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
I can say it was in the top five coolest things I've
ever experienced in my life,just because I learned so much
it's yeah, it was cool.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
Yeah, yeah.
So we did that on Obabaca, andagain, that's the fishery there.
They've got lake trout, whichwas closed for over 20 years due
to overfishing, and most ofthat overfishing was ice fishing

(41:04):
oh yeah, okay and and they,they, they've just reopened it.
After God, I don't know.
It's over 20 years and the laketrout fishing is pretty
spectacular.
We got wow, you'll have to tunein.

Speaker 3 (41:21):
Is it catch and release now, Steve?

Speaker 2 (41:23):
What's that?

Speaker 3 (41:24):
Is it catch and release now?

Speaker 2 (41:26):
Yes, catch and release.
Good, good, 100%, yep, yep,catch and release.
And then the smallmouth fishery.
There is stupid, like it'sridiculous.
Average fish is three pounds.
And then it's hard, like I meanwe had a harder time getting on
to the bigger fish, but wefinally found them and it was an

(41:48):
open water bite, them, and itwas a.
It was an open water bite Likeuh, um, the biggest smallies
that I saw were were.
It was actually um, uh D.
I shot the the bass show firstbecause we figured, you know,
bass is probably going to beeasier and, uh, we'll get it out
of the way quicker.

(42:09):
And then, uh, and then, andthen turn it over to Dean.
So when we turned it over, itwas late afternoon on one of the
days and we were right out inthe middle of Obabaca and it's
like an hourglass shape, sothere's like a northern basin
and a southern basin, and wewere up in the northern basin,

(42:30):
right out in the middle of thelake in like 140 feet of water,
and while they were shooting,you know, to monkey around,
there's always a new lure orthere's something going on.
It's not just like I don't, Iwouldn't be fishing for lake
trout when Dean's on the frontof the boat fishing for lake

(42:52):
trout.
It just doesn't work that way.
So Peter handed me this Yozuri,a new bait that's hitting the
market this year and it's like Idon't even remember the name of
it, but it's like a countdown.
You remember the countdowns,yep?
And they're basically just abait that sink and they sink at

(43:15):
a rate that is consistent andyou can count and watch it fall.
So if you watch it fall down toa foot and you count that one,
two, three, it's dropping onefoot, two foot, three foot.
Well, this thing was like acountdown on steroids, man, like

(43:36):
it drops really, really quicklyand they're small.
This one, the one I was using,was about maybe an inch and a
half long and it would drop afoot as fast as you could count
One, two, three, Like it wasfalling fast.
And the thing with this bait isit falls horizontally.

(43:59):
A lot of these heavier, like ajigging kind of bait, like that
it falls either end first ornose first, like tail first or
nose first, and then just kindof spirals straight down.
They've designed these so thatthey fall horizontally and they

(44:20):
kind of shimmy.
It's a much more natural falland anyway.
So I'm messing around with thisthing, casting it out as far as
I could, and just kind ofdaydreaming a little bit.
And you know, as I'm reelingthis in, I'm looking and the
water there is clear, likeyou've got a clear sight down at

(44:44):
least 15 feet and it's justlike glass.
And I'm looking down and I'mwatching this bait coming in and
all of a sudden there's asmallmouth.
And then I'm like, oh my God,there's a smallmouth and it's
almost like it's a dream.
Know, I didn't even believe it140 feet of water and we're like

(45:10):
in the middle of the lake, likewe're three kilometers well,
probably a kilometer and a halfto two kilometers from shore in
every direction.
And uh, I'm like I said peter,and you can't make any noise
because you never know when Voveis going to shoot.
So I turn around, I'm punchingPeter and he's like what?
I'm like look, and I'm pointingover the side and I'm shaking

(45:34):
this bait.
Well, by the time Peter looksover the side, there was like
six.
You know how small most schoolup yeah.
Yeah, and I had just shot thisshow and all six of these fish
are bigger than any of the fishthat I caught on camera.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
Yeah, Of course, right Always the way.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, it was crazy.
It was an awesome experienceand a great fishery and the
facility is immaculate andScotty and Jill look after it.
For Craig Purcell and it was.
They did a wonderful job,highly recommended.
That's awesome.
And then from there the nexttrip, next shoot was actually

(46:19):
the Chaudière Lodge, my oldplace.
So Peter and I went and shot atChaudiere and it was the same
kind of deal, like I mean it'sfor whatever reason.
The Upper French River is awonderful fishery, but anytime

(46:40):
I've been shooting on it andthis goes back to all of those
shows that uh that we've donewith uh, that I, that that I did
with Fish and Canada and withCharlie Ray Fishful Thinking and
with whoever it might be, bobIzumi Um, it was always a bit of
a struggle, although the showwith Izumi, that one, wasn't a

(47:01):
struggle.
That was a show that come offthe way that it should.
But typically and there havebeen a few Fish in Canada shows
that have been bing, bing, bing,but I think it's more in my
mind because there's so muchstress about trying to get a
show shot when it's your place,right, but this one, we wanted

(47:27):
to shoot a smallmouth here aswell, because out on Lake
Nipissing, if you hit it rightand the smallmouth fishing is
wicked, like it is wicked thereare some big smallies out there,
but Nipissing is so big, yeah,that if you don't hit it and the
it's, we were fishing a postspawn and, um, as they're moving

(47:52):
off of the beds, if you don'tcatch them when they're, when
they're in that, um, that firststage, that um, that uh, uh, the
the first um areas that theymove out of those spawning
grounds.
Once they move off of those,they spread out all over the
place and they're just tough tofind.

(48:13):
Well, we missed it.
We missed it by a day.
Matt O'Brien, we just had himon.
He was a guide for me back inthose days and he still guides
there today.
And he was like, oh my God,last week we were catching like
60 fish in a half an hour andthey were all schooled up while

(48:36):
they just weren't there.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
That's always what a guide will say.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
Oh, yeah, yeah, for sure we should have the top.

Speaker 3 (48:44):
You know what we should do.
Sorry to cut in here, but youknow what.
I've talked about it with Davea hundred times and we've almost
made them up.
But we need to do it.
We need to make up the top tenguidelines and the top ten guest
lines.
Put them out there.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
Yeah, sorry to interrupt you, but that would be
a good one on a t-shirt, thatwould be funny it would be
because I as a youngster going,I didn't go to American Plan
Lodges, but we went to somehousekeeping places and I
remembered all of the oh, youshould have been here last week

(49:23):
the Mayflies, the Mayflies.

Speaker 3 (49:23):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, oh, you should have been here
last week.
The mayflies, the mayflies.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But no, it was great.
And then, well, and then, youknow, we fell back onto the old
faithful on the French, which isthe largemouth, and basically
in a day, day and a half, we puttogether a large mouth show.

(49:48):
But the one funny thing I don'tknow, I don't think it's going
to make the show, but Peter hadcaught, oh, I think he probably
caught half a dozen, maybe notquite, maybe between four and
six drum, and they weregood-sized.
Drum, or sheep's head is theslang term for these fish.

(50:13):
But we were fishing this onespot that typically holds big
smallmouth and Peter gets intothis awesome fish and it's
pulling and folks, they fightlike a freight train, these drum
, because they're shaped like adinner plate.
And Pete gets this fish up tothe side of the boat and we see
it's a drum and it's like, ohman, and anyway.

(50:37):
So there's a little bit of aletdown.
He gets it into the boat andwe're, anytime we catch a fish,
even if it's not something weplan on catching, we always go
through the, the um, um, theshooting part of side of it, and
if not for anything else, justpractice at least for me it's

(50:58):
practice, um, talking on cameraand addressing the audience and
you know, and then that way,after that, after I do that,
vova can kind of critique andcoach and say, you know, don't
hold the fish like this, hold itlike this or talk about this.

(51:20):
Well, anyway, peter's got thisdrum and it's big.
It's probably I don't know 12,13 pounds, maybe 14 pounds.

Speaker 3 (51:26):
That's big man.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
And yeah, and he's got it by the lip because the
drum you can hold them by thelip.
They look like a cross betweena bass and a carp.
They're not the most prettykind of fish and they've got an
asshole on them the size of atuna, you know, and um, um, the,

(51:51):
the, the.
So we're, we're standing thereand we're kind of we're shooting
and and I'm practicing and youknow, not thinking it's going to
make the show and the way Petertakes the hook out, it was a
jig A lot of times.
If you just pull that jigaround so that it's off the top

(52:13):
of its beak, he had caught itright in the top of its mouth,
so the jig head was kind of overthe top.
Well, if you just and andlightly give that, turn the jig
head down and just pop it likehit it with your hand and it'll
pop it right out real quick,well, peter does this.

(52:35):
He puts the jig head up and hepops the jig head, but he hits
this drum right on the end ofthe nose and and this fucking
thing started shittingeverywhere, like I mean, it was
like a goddamn fire hose comingout of this toonie-sized hole on
the belly of this drum and it'spointed in every direction

(52:56):
except for at Peter, and itstarts shitting and Boba's
shooting and I'm like holy shit,pete, you hit it right in the
nose.
Now it's shitting everywhere.
Fucking shit's down here, it'sshit on my boots, it's shit on
the floor.
You can't be knocking them likethat if they're going to shit

(53:16):
like this, like I mean, it's agoddamn mess.

Speaker 3 (53:20):
Oh my goodness, and Peter starts laughing.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
I said the only thing that in this boat that doesn't
have drum shit on it is you.

Speaker 3 (53:30):
Oh my God, that's awesome man, that's awesome, oh
yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
So Peter's like oh my God, we have to use that.
We got to talk to Ange.
Maybe we can beep out the fucksand the shits and stuff.
I'm like, oh yeah, no, it was abeauty I had one time.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
This is a similar story and I've got to throw it
in here because it is a beauty.
So Greg Thompson is this guy'sname, but he's like when I
started Lake of the WoodsFishing Adventures he was like
my first guest and like my firstbig client and he knows
everybody on lake in the woods.
He's a winnipeg guy.
Comes here.
He's the guy who gives me who Itrade my leaf tickets with

(54:11):
every year and I take them out,uh, for the jets game there that
guy gotcha, but he knowseverybody that comes from like.
So it'd be like toronto to themuskokas, right same thing as as
winnipeg to Kenora on Lake ofthe Woods, right.
So he starts hooking me up withthese people, right, and so on
and so forth.
And so the second year I knewhim, I had a group of like 12.

(54:35):
So I had two contract boatshired, plus myself, because
that's what I would run like,seven guide boats a man a day,
and I only had me, right, andeveryone else was contract,
right.
Yeah.
So we go down, so it's walleyeopener and this was the.
It was late, like it was late,late, late, late, late.

(54:58):
So they were still spawning.
So we go all the way down Lakeof the Woods towards the French
Narrows.
You know it's like a 40-milerun, but I know like it's going
to be hammering down there,right.
So we get down there and wecatch a couple big females right
away, like I think they werelike 27, 28.

(55:20):
And I'm like, well, let's goget some eaters.
So we crawled back up into kindof the pebbly, kind of shit,
really shallow, and we startedhitting little ones.
Well, these little males were,they were full of semen, like I
mean, like you couldn't, so Ijust bought my boat, so my

(55:40):
Illumicraft is brand new and Ihave guests in the boat.
Well, every time they catch afish, it's coming all over my
boat.
Like a hose A bucket and I'mlike and we're talking like 40,
50 walleyes, Like when I gotback it looked like a cum
dumpster.
When you got back to thefucking boat launch, I was so

(56:01):
disgusted.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
Chris, is like what happened to your boat, like
somebody dumped cream all overyour boat.

Speaker 3 (56:08):
And that's what it was, the funniest.
So then.
But then you get the idiots inthe boat, the gas right there,
like, oh, I'm going to get you,no, I'm going to get you.
And.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
I'm like stop, stop.

Speaker 3 (56:18):
Yeah, that would be me.
Yeah, it was funny as heck,yeah, oh yeah, sorry to
interrupt you, I had to throwthat in there.
That was a good one.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
No, no, not at all.
Well, you know, the year inreview is a big one.

Speaker 3 (56:33):
I think we probably should cut this one off here and
we'll do a second edition,because I don't even talk about
anything.
What's going on?
What we did this year at thelodge.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
That's right, that's right.
So, um, folks listen, thank youfor for tuning in to this point
.
Um, tune in next week and, uh,we're going to pick it up right
off where we left off here.
And uh, and we're going to pickit up right off where we left
off here and continue the yearin review.
It's a big year, so you knowwhat it deserves.

(57:09):
Two shows, absolutely.

Speaker 3 (57:13):
Our story deserves two shows, that's for sure.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
Wow, there you go, but thank you, folks, for
listening to this thus far andwe look forward to seeing you
next week as well.
And for those of you out therewho are looking to partner up,
we've got a wonderful deck puttogether.
You can reach out Will istypically the best guy to reach

(57:40):
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listen.
This one is going to drop onNew Year's Day, so, from our
hearts to yours, we hope thatyou have an extremely prosperous
and awesome 2025.

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episode of Diaries of a LodgeOwner.

Speaker 1 (58:36):
Stories of the North.
I'm a good old boy, nevermeanin meaning no harm.
I'll be all you ever saw, beenreeling in the hog since the day
I was born, bending my rock,stretching my line.

(58:58):
Someday I might own a lodge, andthat'd be fine.
Someday I might own a lodge,and that'd be fine.
I'll be making my way the onlyway I know how, working hard and
sharing the North with all ofmy pals.
Well, I'm a good old boy.

(59:20):
I bought a lodge and lived mydream, and now I'm here talking
about how life can be as good asit seems.

Speaker 6 (59:31):
Yeah, as the world gets louder and louder, the
lessons of our natural worldbecome harder and harder to hear
, but they are still availableto those who know where to
listen.
I'm Jerry Ouellette and I washonoured to serve as Ontario's

(59:53):
Minister of Natural Resources.
However, my journey into thewoods didn't come from politics.
Rather, it came from my time inthe bush and a mushroom.
Rather, it came from my time inthe bush and a mushroom.
In 2015, I was introduced tothe birch-hungry fungus known as
chaga, a tree conch withcenturies of medicinal use by

(01:00:13):
Indigenous peoples all over theglobe.
After nearly a decade of harvestuse, testimonials and research,
my skepticism has faded toobsession and I now spend my
life dedicated to improving thelives of others through natural
means.
But that's not what the show isabout.
My pursuit of the strangemushroom and my passion for the

(01:00:35):
outdoors has brought me to theplaces and around the people
that are shaped by our naturalworld.
On Outdoor Journal Radio'sUnder the Canopy podcast, I'm
going to take you along with meto see the places, meet the
people that will help you findyour outdoor passion and help
you live a life close to natureand under the canopy.

(01:00:55):
Find Under the Canopy now onSpotify, apple Podcasts or
wherever else you get yourpodcasts.

Speaker 7 (01:01:05):
Hi everybody.
I'm Angelo Viola and I'm PeteBowman.
Now you might know us as thehosts of Canada's favorite
fishing show, but now we'rehosting a podcast.
That's right.
Every Thursday, ang and I willbe right here in your ears
bringing you a brand new episodeof Outdoor Journal Radio.
Hmm, now, what are we going totalk about for two hours every
week?
Well, you know there's going tobe a lot of fishing.

Speaker 4 (01:01:27):
I knew exactly where those fish were going to be and
how to catch them, and they wereeasy to catch.

Speaker 7 (01:01:32):
Yeah, but it's not just a fishing show.
We're going to be talking topeople from all facets of the
outdoors, from athletes, All theother guys would go golfing Me
and Gart To scientists.
To chefs.

(01:01:57):
And whoever else will pick upthe phone Wherever you are.
Outdoor Journal Radio seeks toanswer the questions and tell
the stories of all those whoenjoy being outside.
Find us on Spotify, applePodcasts or wherever you get
your podcasts.
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