November 12, 2025 • 31 mins
Episode Summary
In this insightful episode of "Did She Really Say That?", host Katrina van Oudheusden explores the complexities of love and relationships with renowned life coach Lynda Williams. Together, they delve into how high-achieving women can realign their personal and romantic lives by embracing authenticity, understanding feminine and masculine energies, and avoiding common dating pitfalls. Listeners are treated to Lynda's personal journey from a successful PR entrepreneur to a dedicated life coach and mentor, as well as practical tips on navigating modern dating with confidence.
Key Discussion Points
The Impact of Entrepreneurship on Relationships: How high-achieving women often prioritize work over personal fulfillment and relationships.
Lynda's Journey and Transformation: From PR powerhouse to life coach, Lynda shares her experiences and what led her to focus on helping women find happiness and love.
Understanding Feminine and Masculine Energies: Explaining the balance between these energies in work and relationships, and debunking myths surrounding femininity.
The Evolving Dating Landscape: Challenges faced by women in modern dating and strategies to attract the right partner.
Self-Awareness and Empowerment: How self-awareness can improve relationships in both personal and professional domains.
Guest Bios
Lynda Williams: A life coach, mentor, writer, and speaker, Lynda dedicates her life to empowering women to achieve a fulfilling lifestyle. Her programs focus on self-awareness and relationship building, drawing from her personal experiences and professional expertise.
Recommended Resources
Lynda Williams' Evolved Woman Program: A 12-week coaching program aimed at helping high-achieving women improve self-love and attract the right relationships. lyndawilliamscoaching.com
Books Mentioned:
"Start with Why" by Simon Sinek
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About Your Host: Katrina van Oudheusden
Former Chef at Walt Disney World® Resort, Restaurateur, Speaker, and CEO of Truth Bomb Marketing. Katrina is a sought-after consultant for small business growth among female entrepreneurs.
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(00:02):
Well, welcome to this episode ofDid she really say That?
And this is going to be the episode, ladies, as you're
listening in about love, about relationships, because here's
what I know. We're high achieving women.
We put everything else first except for ourselves.
And a lot of times that affects our relationships.
So I brought Linda on with me today because I really want to
(00:23):
have an true authentic conversation around that journey
of entrepreneurship relationships, the good, the
bad, the ugly. And she is a life coach, mentor,
writer, speaker, who's really dedicated her life ladies, to
you, right? She's she's dedicated her lives
to helping women just like you have a fulfilled, happy
(00:43):
lifestyle with purpose and love,right?
Changing the way you view relationships, doing the deep
work that you've been avoiding because we know you have,
because you have everything elsegoing on, but really getting
back into yourself, creating thespace for you to be in a
relationship. What does that look like from a
feminine energy side? What does that look like in a
give and take in a relationship?And I know that this is going to
(01:05):
be a must listen to episode thatyou're going to want to hear
over and over again. So without further ado, Linda,
welcome to the show. Thank you for that lovely
introduction, Katrina. It's great to be on your your
podcasts. I'm a big fan.
Thank you so much for being here.
So let's talk about this. You've been working with women
over what the last few let's youknow what, we'll stop right
(01:27):
here. We'll go back, rewind and say,
OK, how did you get on this journey of getting into
relationship coaching and life coaching and love coaching?
Well, it's really a product of me.
I was an entrepreneur for many years and I still am to an
extent, but I was that stereotypical high achiever in
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my 30s and early 40s. I was running a very successful
public relations agency. I was on 24/7 high achieving,
setting myself bigger and bettergoals.
I got divorced in my early 30s and I went out dating and I was
so naive to the whole dating world.
(02:13):
You know, I met my ex-husband inmy early 20s, so we're talking
20 odd years ago now and there wasn't dating apps back then.
We met through a friend and so dating in my early 30s, it was a
wild walk in the park. Wow, I was naive.
I was so unaware of myself. There's so many limiting
(02:34):
beliefs, dating, emotionally unavailable, non committal guys.
It was all going on. I dated narcissists, sociopaths,
you name it. I could actually write a book on
it. Holy crap.
So that that was going on in my personal life in my 30s while I
was thriving at work. And in the same time, in the
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same breath, I've always had a huge interest in well-being, but
more on the inner journey, the emotional mental health.
My father passed from suicide when I was 18 years old.
So we've always had that interest on psychology and, and
how we tick and how the mind works and, and how it's all
linked together, body, mind and soul.
So that's always been an interest of mine.
(03:18):
And I, I've been on my own innerjourney since my early 30s and
it led me to start studying, coaching and getting my
accreditation in NLP. I've studied with an expertise
monk on mindfulness and meditation.
So I had, I started gathering all these tools and, and
concurrently, I also used to runa Wellness magazine in
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Singapore. So I got to learn and and
interview all these amazing experts in the field of
well-being. But but predominantly it was on
mental health and mindset. And then my purpose came
calling. I was getting burnt out at work.
I wasn't loving what I was doinganymore.
(04:00):
It was still successful, but it was a real slog.
And in my late 30s, I read SimonSinek's Start with the Y.
If you heard of that book you know it's what made him famous
really. And I realised my purpose wasn't
running APR agency and I was literally like fuck.
(04:21):
What? This isn't my life's journey.
I've got an office in Hong Kong,I've got a huge team in
Singapore. I mean, I was having a fabulous
life. I was travelling the world with
these amazing luxury hotel brands.
I mean, anyone would be so envious of my life.
Business empty flights, yeah, yachts, luxury lots here,
business class flights there, Michelin star restaurants here.
(04:44):
I mean, I mean, it was all goingon, but I was empty.
I was empty. And it's like one of these
revolving doors that keeps slapping you around the face
until you finally learn the lesson that it's really not
doing anything for you and you have to make a change.
So I had to be really brave and,and RIP the plaster off and, and
(05:08):
basically I wanted to help people in more deep and
meaningful ways. So I sold parts of my PR
business off, wound the rest of it down and it and it became a
full time coach and. I'm going to stop you right
here. Yeah.
So I have a question because couple things you said.
So First off, for my listeners, how many of you kind of
resonated with what she said so far?
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So I want to pause here because a lot of you are doing things
that you're not enjoying, you'reyou're just doing to do.
But then there's another piece that you just said here.
So you're basically what had youclosed down as opposed to sell
off the business? I sold part, I sold parts.
(05:48):
Of it. Parts of it, but I could have
sold it before COVID and I decided not to, which was a wise
decision because COVID happened and my hospitality clients were
on pause for the COVID period. So I wouldn't have got the
payout. And if I wanted to sell, I would
have to grow my business by 20% and then then stick.
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So that would have taken 2 yearsand then stick through the sale
because when you're a service business, you are the brands.
So I would have had to stay withthe business for at least two or
three years. So then I was like, OK, that's
five years of my life. I'm 40 years old.
I don't want to spend the next 5of years, five years of my life
deep, five years of my life deeply unhappy and unfulfilled.
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So I had to be brave and make a decision.
And happiness is paramount. Money can be earned back.
I'd save tons of money. Previous years I've been savvy
and the money I had made had invested, so I had.
I did have, you know, a backup for a few years after then, but
it was a real big decision because I had the ego, the PR
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queen ego to let go of. You know, I was know my identity
was public relations. She's the PR girl.
Everyone goes to her in Singapore.
She was the lens on Asia for theWestern market.
All these identity shifts that Ihad to make and and you.
Had to peel away through also. Absolutely.
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And that voice, what will peoplethink?
People think, oh, she's a failure.
She's closing her business down.What will people think?
Well, what will people think? The right people will think?
Oh, actually all all the people that are close to me that know
me inside and now including my clients were like, actually
there's a natural evolution for you.
We know how passionate you are about coaching.
(07:36):
We know how great you are in thewell-being space.
This is actually a natural step.We're so sad to see you go.
And we'll have to go with another PR agency.
But they were all huge supporters.
But it's the naysayers on the inthe periphery of your circle.
We're like sailing. Oh yeah.
It's the ones that don't know you, that don't understand the
transition in a journey. And the reason I kind of point
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that out is because I think as women, we don't always
understand or know like the timeframes.
Like I'm trying to give back that business savvy sense to it.
Like what Linda just shared is like, OK, it didn't make sense
for me to stay in another five years and something was making
me miserable when I could be shifting and doing something
else. Like it's not failure, it's not
giving up. It's a transition and it's
(08:19):
natural. It's a natural evolution.
So you got into coaching. So what was that transition like
for you to move from APR into coaching?
Was did it feel, sounds like it felt fairly natural in terms of
the business savvy and getting it all set up?
Yeah, in some ways because I still do some coaching in the PR
world. So I support agencies with their
(08:42):
well-being and their mindset andsome some basic PR training
skills still. But I'm more so on the on the
mindset training these days. So that stuff felt quite
natural. But I think most of the work I
do now is remotely. I do go into some agencies and
some corporate environments in London and Manchester.
So I do get out and about, but I'm primarily home based
(09:05):
coaching online, whether that's a group coaching or one-on-one.
So it's a huge shift from running around like a blue ass
fly in my old PR world from office to client meeting to
hotel lounge, to the airport to jump on a flight to a luxury.
I mean, my life is wildly different, but I love it and it
(09:27):
feels real when I'm in coaching mode.
There's nothing that makes me feel more in purpose than
anything. When my ladies show up and
they're literally telling me whydidn't I know you 20 years ago?
I've had so many aha moments this week.
I know exactly how what I've been triggered by, but why my
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previous relationships and in the way that they did and
they're, they're, I'm empoweringthese women to go on this inner
journey of self-awareness, improve their self worth and
confidence so they can thereforeattract that loving relationship
they deserve. And that is a product of me,
right. So I have been on this
relationship path of, of not knowing why I was dating all the
(10:12):
one guys, finding emotionally unavailable, non committal guys
and getting really disappointed with with how I was treated.
So I this the evolved woman program is is me and I only
really coach on on topics and niches that I've experienced
first hand. Well, I love it that you call it
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the evolved woman because it really is permission for women
and for you to have gone throughthis just journey.
So let's talk about the the dating world right now for women
that are getting out there that are looking for their partner,
that have are going through thisonline Cray crayness that it
(10:55):
just seems to be getting worse. So talk a little bit about what
you're seeing out there and whatwomen are experiencing and how
you're helping transition that. Yeah, and you weren't.
There's an awful lot of negativepress out there.
In your neck of the words, there's a New York Times in my
neck of the words, there's the Guardian.
And it's like, oh, women are doomed to be single. 50% of
(11:17):
women will be single by 2050. We want to be single that we're
choosing to live like as hermitsor something.
It's like, oh, but they want to be single like.
Well, it's click bait as well, like bamboo cells.
They're not going to be saying, oh, women are finding more deep
and meaningful relationships. They're not going to be selling
that kind of stuff. Why not give us some help
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people? Yes.
I know, but the the issue is though, society just haven't
caught up with women. You know, we have speed off like
a rocket over the last 20 years.We're independent, we're smart,
we're intelligent, we can do everything for ourselves.
And men are are trying to catch up with us.
And so you do get this conflict in the dating world where men
(12:03):
don't know how to handle us. But on the other side of things,
women also have to go on their inner journey and look at who
they are. We're all a product of our
experience, whether that's childhood, how we're parented,
how past relationships have affected us.
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When we are high achievers, we are in masculine mode most of
the time. I was.
And we're in our masculine doingproactive go go go energy.
And to attract a guy, you need that yin and Yang, the masculine
and feminine energy balance. And when you're operating it in
masculine all the time, it can be repelling.
That's not to say though, we have had to be in our masculine.
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We are women operating in a man's world.
So we've had to be in our masculine to get shit done, to
prove ourselves. So when women come to me and
I've just had a lady going through my course, actually,
she's like, Oh my God. I've realised I've been in my
masculine energy for 35 years. And first of all, I'm like,
don't beat yourself up about it,you.
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Know what you didn't? Know exactly and it's so don't
start beating yourself up about it.
You had to be in that masculine energy to survive in a man's
world. So approaching it with a bit of
care and compassion, but also understanding what feminine and
masculine energy actually is. So let's talk about this.
(13:28):
Yes, let's dive. Let's dive into what is
masculine energy because I hear this a lot.
And when I first started hearingthis, it sounded a lot of woo,
like it was an intangible, like here's masculine energy, here's
feminine energy. As if they're like competing
against each other, like 1 is better than the other.
Not true by the way, listeners. No and you're right, there's so
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much woo woo weird stuff out there about about what feminine
energy is and oh be more girly, be more submissive, let the man
lead. Well I don't know, bullshit who
wants to be girly or submissive and all this fakery Oh text the
man these 5 words and he'll instantly fall in love with you.
There's so much bullshit out there 5.
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Words. I'm now curious.
No. And it's like, Gee, will people
stop spewing out all this rubbish.
But essentially what the masculine and what the feminine
is. The masculine is our our
strategy, our doing, our proactive.
We're planning, we are always on, we're always succeeding,
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always organising. It's the Doo Doo Doo.
Whereas our feminine is more in the present.
We're receiving, we're in flow, we're allowing creativity.
It's nothing to do with being girly or, you know, hey.
It's not doing my hair, makeup and you know, putting in a
shorter dress and a push up bra.That's not femininity.
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And they don't compete, they actually flow beautifully
together. So everyone thinks, Oh well, at
work I'm 100% masculine. Well, you're actually not.
So for example, if you're in an in person meeting or even online
and you're presenting, you're inyour masculine.
You know, you're presenting, you're leading the room, you're
leading the meeting, you're in your masculine energy.
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Then you quite easily slip into your feminine when you're
listening, when you're listeningwith empathy, when you're
listening to understand, that's when it when you're in your
feminine, you also in your feminine when you're allowing
space to think and breathe and allowing flow and creativity.
So instead of answering something right off the bat,
you're like, OK, thinking arounda solution, being creative,
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allowing that connectivity with yourself, allowing that
intuition. So a lot of the time when we're
in our masculine, we're completely cut off from our
intuition. So our, our gut, our gut brain,
or, you know, that intuition down there, which is one of our
most powerful traits. Yeah.
So when we're in our masculine all the time, we're totally
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connect, disconnected from our body.
So when we're not feminine, we're we're reconnected with our
self so we can feel our sensations and that thick sense
of that intuition can become incredibly powerful at work and
in our personal lives. So when you're going out dating
and you smell a rat and it feels, oh, I'm not sure how I
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feel about this. We're really understanding those
sensations in our body and we can start to make smart
decisions using all forms of ourbrain, our head brain, heart
brain and the gut brain. But by being in our feminine,
and that's the only way to really tap into those
sensations, that's where we become powerful.
Yeah, I get, I get told by my friends a lot, but I don't give
men enough chances. Like I date them once and I can
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pretty much tell you whether this is going to go forward or
like stall. And a lot of that's just the how
they they react towards me, how I'm reacting towards them.
And I'm like, this feels more friendship than anything else.
But then the other question thatI get they push back on.
It's like, yeah, but friendship can evolve into love.
You're not giving it a chance. So what do you say to something
like that out in the world? Yeah, I think it's important
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when you start into dates is getting clarity about what do
you actually want in a relationship.
And when I find women, they're amazing at work.
They have To Do List strategies,frameworks, all this stuff.
But then when it comes to their dating life, it's like the
stabbing in the dark. Oh, right there.
That's why I found someone on going out on a date.
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It's like, what do you actually want?
What do you value in a relationship?
What are the most important things, those non negotiables
and what and and yet, and a lot of the time we have to strip
away of, you know, what friends and family would like to see us
with, what kind of guy society wants to see us with, what
social media power couples look like.
All that bullshit that you have to strip away and get down to
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the core of what is going to make you really happy?
What is important to you. And so when we get really
specific on those things and create a little strategy and a
plan in terms of what this guy looks like and feels like and
how how are you going to feel inhis presence?
What are things that are non negotiables?
It can be simple things, it can be large things.
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It's it's your specific plan andyour specific values in terms of
what is going to make you happy in a relationship.
So getting specific on those things to start off really helps
all the where time wasters just fall by the wayside.
Got it. So this podcast has a lot, it's
really about like bold comments,bold statements.
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And I think you've made some pretty darn bold statements.
But in the world of talking to aa client, maybe even coaching
somebody, there was a moment yousaid something and they just
kind of looked at you and said, did she just really say that?
Well, there's lots of those moments.
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I think there's a lot of aha moments that happen throughout
the my coaching program where it's not so much as did she
really say that, but what like, Oh my God, I'm more self aware.
I've just been realising all these unhelpful patterns that
have been going on in the background and it's more like,
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not what I'm saying, but Oh my God, this is the way I've been
showing up. This is the way I am because of
I'm a product of my experience and now I'm self aware.
I can, I can understand what my triggers are and, and, and how
to move forward in a healthier way.
I think the feminine and masculine energy is probably one
of the big ones where that plaster is ripped off and like,
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Oh my God, this is me. I've been in my masculine for so
long. I, I would say that is one of
the biggest shocks that my clients have when they actually
understand what the masculine and feminine is.
And they know that actually they've got feminine within
them. It's just a bit buried and they
just need the opportunity to to let it grow and, and and shine.
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Yeah, let it flourish in the environment in which they're at.
As you coach women through this journey of their self love, of
being in relationships, do you find that it trans transitions
or translates into other areas of their life?
Yes, absolutely. One of my former clients had a
much healthy relationship with her CEO.
So she was head of finance for this multi conglomerate in
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London and she was having an issue with her CEO and the way
he was communicating, the way hewas treating the team and how I
empower my clients to communicate how to solve
problems in a relationship also translate to solving issues in
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the workplace. So it actually transformed her
relationship at work for the better.
So all the tools that I equip myclients with helps with work.
It helps with forming better connections and friendships and
connections with your family. So it really goes full circle.
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And a client that just left yesterday, actually, she was
like, Oh my God, I can't believewhat I've just learned in the
last 12 weeks. It's just helped so many areas
of my life. And she's dating and she's
meeting some amazing guys. Not the one yet.
I can't promise you'll meet the love of your life within 12
weeks. Could be possible.
Could be Yeah. Which is meeting guys much
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closer to to to the kind of loveof the life that she.
She's the man she wants to be with, not the man that's just
showing up and she's, you know, having.
Yeah, it's like. Oh God, fix him and that's the
worst. One not to be fixed.
Your job, as in dating, is not to fix each other.
No. And that's the thing, as high
achievers, we're getting used tofixing everything, aren't we?
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Meet someone. Oh, no problem.
Yeah, I can sort. I can sort his emotional
unavailability out. I can sort that bad dress sense
out. I can sort his time management
out. I can sort his mummy issues out.
No, no, no, no, no. Those never go away.
That is not your job. That is their job and role.
Oh my good. So my next question for you,
Linda, is what's next? What do you see moving forward
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for your business, for your coaching program?
What does that look like for youin the next year, five years?
What do you want? What's the hope, dream and
desire? Yes, I'm working on.
I'm actually applying for a Ted X at the moment.
Yes. And it's going to be about how
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how achieving women tag their self worth to validation, which
I see as a big thing. And there's actually research
that backs it up, which stems from all sorts of experiences,
which I'm not going to go into too much, but it's actually a
big trend and I see it in my clients.
So that's something I'm working on right now.
I am gearing up for a whopping January because January is
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generally a busy time of year for me where people have got the
last year out of the way, right?I really want to find the love
of my life. Let's do something about it.
So I, I, I've got quite a lot ofprogrammes starting at the end
of the year and early January. So that is my main focus.
And of course I have my podcast as well, PSI Love Me, which I
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continue to do to get wonderful experts and guests on there that
can really support my clients journey.
So yeah, more public speaking gigs, more just just helping
more women. That's what I love doing.
I think my main goal, and it is really for me to leave a legacy.
And I think that's really important for your listeners to
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hear as well, is when you're on your deathbed, looking back on
your life, like, what did you add to the world?
What did you leave behind? And yes, we can make all the
money in the world. We can have amazing job titles
and, you know, a swishy branded,flashy company.
But what did we actually do? Support the world?
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And I'm not saying we have to change million people, you know,
a million people's lives. But it's like if you can just
support and help change people and make them feel better and
happier, I think that's an amazing thing to do.
Like you, what you were doing onyour retreats, it's a fabulous
thing to be able to do for for other busy business owners for
them to go away and feel amazingabout themselves.
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And that's that's what my purpose is to help as many women
as possible, to help them also believe love is possible.
He is out there and I think there's so much negative press
around dating at the moment. You go on social media, you read
the news and it's all doom and gloom and it doesn't have to be
that way. There are some great guys out
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there. I found my guy a year ago and
he's the absolute love of my life.
But I had the mindset, I knew hewas out there.
I believed he was out there. I had specific frameworks and
strategies and value elicitations that I went through
that I was so, so clear on what I did and didn't want.
And before I met him, I met somegreat guys, like really great
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guys. They taught me about myself.
I learnt something new. But I I knew I was getting
closer and closer to meeting himbecause the quality of my dates
was getting better and better. So yeah.
Hint, hint, lady, she said it a couple times.
When you're dating, the quality of the men get better and better
means you're getting closer. So refine think.
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And I will tell you this as women is women in business,
relationships are #1 key. And the more we can have a
deeper understanding of relationship with ourselves,
with who we want to be interacting with.
And we talked about in the business world, finding your
right avatar in the world of dating as it's the same thing.
You have to strip away all the BS and get down to what's the
core value? Who are you looking to align
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with? And I think that's the part of
the journey that I love. What Like Linda shares with you.
So Linda, I know you have a giftbecause we're wrapping up.
I can't believe we're almost through this episode.
This is such good juicy stuff. Gone by in a flash.
It has so let's talk about the the the ability to get into your
coaching program. You're offering a really
(26:12):
incredible deal, but they and itis really simple just to get
coaching from you and ladies if you're like looking to date, but
that's who you want to get with.So get into this conversation
with her. So talk a little bit about the
program and what's available inside for them.
Yeah, so it's called the EvolvedWoman Program.
It's a 12 week journey and I help single female entrepreneurs
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and high achievers improve the relationship they have with
themselves so they can attract the love of their life just like
what I did and what I have coached many, many women.
So it's 12 weeks, It's group coaching, one on ones with me as
well as specific workshops everyweek for them to do their inner
work and then I guide them through every session.
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It's very hands on from me. There's a lot of programs out
there which you have to log intosome big system and keep up with
it. But I know I've been there as a
as a busy woman. So I literally spoon feed my
clients what they need to do every week.
So it's really, really easy and straightforward to follow.
It's really time efficient, no fluffiness.
I'm an ex communications girl soeverything in there is very
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succinct and packed so you get the most out of it and as little
as time as possible. And I would love to offer your
listeners 30% off for the next two months if they sign up for
the January 2026 program. Well, I'd love that.
So definitely sign up for the 2026 program as you're talking
about the involved woman that you know what I think what's
brilliant is that it is a high touch, right?
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That it is the sense of connecting with the females.
I did have a quick thought that blew through the back of my mind
that I just want to ask a question around.
Is it like hundreds of women going through Armenia?
It feels like if you're doing one-on-one coaching, it's a very
intimate experience during thosethose those 12 weeks of working
with you. Yeah, no, it's really exclusive.
(28:02):
So the group coaching calls I have between 4:00 to 6:00 on
each group coaching calls. And sometimes because I have a 2
hour time period of when I coach, you might not see another
lady. Sometimes you will and you'll
you'll share, you know, your experiences throughout the
program and you're you're dating, which is quite nice to
that. I have a community as well, but
it's very high touch and in the world of AI and all the
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artificial intelligence out there, it's it's real, it's
authentic. And I handhold you throughout
the whole way. I'm available on e-mail for 12
weeks. So I feel like some of the women
don't use me enough. I'm like, use me.
It's only like when they start start dating, they start
emailing me and then they realize the responses I'm giving
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them like, Oh my God, I should have been emailing you from week
1. But yeah, it's, it's really high
touch and hands on. And I absolutely love the
results that I get and the transition that I see from all
my clients. It's it's amazing.
And I think that's what we want as women.
We want to find the love of our lives.
We want to be able to be in a relationship that feels as
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comfortable as as waking up in the morning and being safe.
I think that's one of the big things for women is that safety
too, is when we talk about beinga woman in the world, there is
that place, the sense of feelingsafe.
We're always in a fight and flight as human beings.
And so the ability to create safety in a relationship from
both partners and knowing that is really, really key.
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So Linda, I just want to say thank you for everyone that's
listening, ladies and maybe eventhe gentleman.
I hope you took away something in here that thought made you
think, Oh my gosh, this is something that I can use.
Or I know another woman that could definitely benefit from
this conversation and getting towork with Linda.
So the evolved woman, excuse me,I'm coming off a little bit of a
(29:53):
cold. Go ahead there.
She's offering a 30% discount. You just have to mention truth
bomb, keeping it really simple and just say, you know, I heard
you on the podcast. I'd love to learn more about the
program, dive in, connect with her.
If nothing else, her amazing accent is reason enough just to,
you know, do business with her. Throw that in there, have some
(30:15):
fun, get a little bit of the quirkiness and she's just
amazing. So thank you so much, Linda, for
being on here, for dropping truth bombs, for being truly
authentic around your journey around relationships.
What had you create this program, the evolution from one
business into the next and your life legacy, what you're
creating moving forward. And I hope to to God to find you
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on a Ted Talk stage. That would be amazing and just
everything that you're doing. So thank you so much again for
being on this episode of Did SheReally Say That?
Audience and listeners definitely Student.
TuneIn, Linda. Any last words for our
listeners? My lasting words of wisdom would
be be yourself. Everyone else is taken.
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Mic drop with that, ladies. We'll see you on the next
episode.
Well, welcome to this episode ofDid she really say That?
And this is going to be the episode, ladies, as you're
listening in about love, about relationships, because here's
what I know. We're high achieving women.
We put everything else first except for ourselves.
And a lot of times that affects our relationships.
So I brought Linda on with me today because I really want to
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have an true authentic conversation around that journey
of entrepreneurship relationships, the good, the
bad, the ugly. And she is a life coach, mentor,
writer, speaker, who's really dedicated her life ladies, to
you, right? She's she's dedicated her lives
to helping women just like you have a fulfilled, happy
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lifestyle with purpose and love,right?
Changing the way you view relationships, doing the deep
work that you've been avoiding because we know you have,
because you have everything elsegoing on, but really getting
back into yourself, creating thespace for you to be in a
relationship. What does that look like from a
feminine energy side? What does that look like in a
give and take in a relationship?And I know that this is going to
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be a must listen to episode thatyou're going to want to hear
over and over again. So without further ado, Linda,
welcome to the show. Thank you for that lovely
introduction, Katrina. It's great to be on your your
podcasts. I'm a big fan.
Thank you so much for being here.
So let's talk about this. You've been working with women
over what the last few let's youknow what, we'll stop right
(01:27):
here. We'll go back, rewind and say,
OK, how did you get on this journey of getting into
relationship coaching and life coaching and love coaching?
Well, it's really a product of me.
I was an entrepreneur for many years and I still am to an
extent, but I was that stereotypical high achiever in
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my 30s and early 40s. I was running a very successful
public relations agency. I was on 24/7 high achieving,
setting myself bigger and bettergoals.
I got divorced in my early 30s and I went out dating and I was
so naive to the whole dating world.
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You know, I met my ex-husband inmy early 20s, so we're talking
20 odd years ago now and there wasn't dating apps back then.
We met through a friend and so dating in my early 30s, it was a
wild walk in the park. Wow, I was naive.
I was so unaware of myself. There's so many limiting
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beliefs, dating, emotionally unavailable, non committal guys.
It was all going on. I dated narcissists, sociopaths,
you name it. I could actually write a book on
it. Holy crap.
So that that was going on in my personal life in my 30s while I
was thriving at work. And in the same time, in the
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same breath, I've always had a huge interest in well-being, but
more on the inner journey, the emotional mental health.
My father passed from suicide when I was 18 years old.
So we've always had that interest on psychology and, and
how we tick and how the mind works and, and how it's all
linked together, body, mind and soul.
So that's always been an interest of mine.
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And I, I've been on my own innerjourney since my early 30s and
it led me to start studying, coaching and getting my
accreditation in NLP. I've studied with an expertise
monk on mindfulness and meditation.
So I had, I started gathering all these tools and, and
concurrently, I also used to runa Wellness magazine in
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Singapore. So I got to learn and and
interview all these amazing experts in the field of
well-being. But but predominantly it was on
mental health and mindset. And then my purpose came
calling. I was getting burnt out at work.
I wasn't loving what I was doinganymore.
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It was still successful, but it was a real slog.
And in my late 30s, I read SimonSinek's Start with the Y.
If you heard of that book you know it's what made him famous
really. And I realised my purpose wasn't
running APR agency and I was literally like fuck.
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What? This isn't my life's journey.
I've got an office in Hong Kong,I've got a huge team in
Singapore. I mean, I was having a fabulous
life. I was travelling the world with
these amazing luxury hotel brands.
I mean, anyone would be so envious of my life.
Business empty flights, yeah, yachts, luxury lots here,
business class flights there, Michelin star restaurants here.
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I mean, I mean, it was all goingon, but I was empty.
I was empty. And it's like one of these
revolving doors that keeps slapping you around the face
until you finally learn the lesson that it's really not
doing anything for you and you have to make a change.
So I had to be really brave and,and RIP the plaster off and, and
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basically I wanted to help people in more deep and
meaningful ways. So I sold parts of my PR
business off, wound the rest of it down and it and it became a
full time coach and. I'm going to stop you right
here. Yeah.
So I have a question because couple things you said.
So First off, for my listeners, how many of you kind of
resonated with what she said so far?
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So I want to pause here because a lot of you are doing things
that you're not enjoying, you'reyou're just doing to do.
But then there's another piece that you just said here.
So you're basically what had youclosed down as opposed to sell
off the business? I sold part, I sold parts.
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Of it. Parts of it, but I could have
sold it before COVID and I decided not to, which was a wise
decision because COVID happened and my hospitality clients were
on pause for the COVID period. So I wouldn't have got the
payout. And if I wanted to sell, I would
have to grow my business by 20% and then then stick.
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So that would have taken 2 yearsand then stick through the sale
because when you're a service business, you are the brands.
So I would have had to stay withthe business for at least two or
three years. So then I was like, OK, that's
five years of my life. I'm 40 years old.
I don't want to spend the next 5of years, five years of my life
deep, five years of my life deeply unhappy and unfulfilled.
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So I had to be brave and make a decision.
And happiness is paramount. Money can be earned back.
I'd save tons of money. Previous years I've been savvy
and the money I had made had invested, so I had.
I did have, you know, a backup for a few years after then, but
it was a real big decision because I had the ego, the PR
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queen ego to let go of. You know, I was know my identity
was public relations. She's the PR girl.
Everyone goes to her in Singapore.
She was the lens on Asia for theWestern market.
All these identity shifts that Ihad to make and and you.
Had to peel away through also. Absolutely.
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And that voice, what will peoplethink?
People think, oh, she's a failure.
She's closing her business down.What will people think?
Well, what will people think? The right people will think?
Oh, actually all all the people that are close to me that know
me inside and now including my clients were like, actually
there's a natural evolution for you.
We know how passionate you are about coaching.
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We know how great you are in thewell-being space.
This is actually a natural step.We're so sad to see you go.
And we'll have to go with another PR agency.
But they were all huge supporters.
But it's the naysayers on the inthe periphery of your circle.
We're like sailing. Oh yeah.
It's the ones that don't know you, that don't understand the
transition in a journey. And the reason I kind of point
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that out is because I think as women, we don't always
understand or know like the timeframes.
Like I'm trying to give back that business savvy sense to it.
Like what Linda just shared is like, OK, it didn't make sense
for me to stay in another five years and something was making
me miserable when I could be shifting and doing something
else. Like it's not failure, it's not
giving up. It's a transition and it's
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natural. It's a natural evolution.
So you got into coaching. So what was that transition like
for you to move from APR into coaching?
Was did it feel, sounds like it felt fairly natural in terms of
the business savvy and getting it all set up?
Yeah, in some ways because I still do some coaching in the PR
world. So I support agencies with their
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well-being and their mindset andsome some basic PR training
skills still. But I'm more so on the on the
mindset training these days. So that stuff felt quite
natural. But I think most of the work I
do now is remotely. I do go into some agencies and
some corporate environments in London and Manchester.
So I do get out and about, but I'm primarily home based
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coaching online, whether that's a group coaching or one-on-one.
So it's a huge shift from running around like a blue ass
fly in my old PR world from office to client meeting to
hotel lounge, to the airport to jump on a flight to a luxury.
I mean, my life is wildly different, but I love it and it
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feels real when I'm in coaching mode.
There's nothing that makes me feel more in purpose than
anything. When my ladies show up and
they're literally telling me whydidn't I know you 20 years ago?
I've had so many aha moments this week.
I know exactly how what I've been triggered by, but why my
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previous relationships and in the way that they did and
they're, they're, I'm empoweringthese women to go on this inner
journey of self-awareness, improve their self worth and
confidence so they can thereforeattract that loving relationship
they deserve. And that is a product of me,
right. So I have been on this
relationship path of, of not knowing why I was dating all the
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one guys, finding emotionally unavailable, non committal guys
and getting really disappointed with with how I was treated.
So I this the evolved woman program is is me and I only
really coach on on topics and niches that I've experienced
first hand. Well, I love it that you call it
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the evolved woman because it really is permission for women
and for you to have gone throughthis just journey.
So let's talk about the the dating world right now for women
that are getting out there that are looking for their partner,
that have are going through thisonline Cray crayness that it
(10:55):
just seems to be getting worse. So talk a little bit about what
you're seeing out there and whatwomen are experiencing and how
you're helping transition that. Yeah, and you weren't.
There's an awful lot of negativepress out there.
In your neck of the words, there's a New York Times in my
neck of the words, there's the Guardian.
And it's like, oh, women are doomed to be single. 50% of
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women will be single by 2050. We want to be single that we're
choosing to live like as hermitsor something.
It's like, oh, but they want to be single like.
Well, it's click bait as well, like bamboo cells.
They're not going to be saying, oh, women are finding more deep
and meaningful relationships. They're not going to be selling
that kind of stuff. Why not give us some help
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people? Yes.
I know, but the the issue is though, society just haven't
caught up with women. You know, we have speed off like
a rocket over the last 20 years.We're independent, we're smart,
we're intelligent, we can do everything for ourselves.
And men are are trying to catch up with us.
And so you do get this conflict in the dating world where men
(12:03):
don't know how to handle us. But on the other side of things,
women also have to go on their inner journey and look at who
they are. We're all a product of our
experience, whether that's childhood, how we're parented,
how past relationships have affected us.
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When we are high achievers, we are in masculine mode most of
the time. I was.
And we're in our masculine doingproactive go go go energy.
And to attract a guy, you need that yin and Yang, the masculine
and feminine energy balance. And when you're operating it in
masculine all the time, it can be repelling.
That's not to say though, we have had to be in our masculine.
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We are women operating in a man's world.
So we've had to be in our masculine to get shit done, to
prove ourselves. So when women come to me and
I've just had a lady going through my course, actually,
she's like, Oh my God. I've realised I've been in my
masculine energy for 35 years. And first of all, I'm like,
don't beat yourself up about it,you.
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Know what you didn't? Know exactly and it's so don't
start beating yourself up about it.
You had to be in that masculine energy to survive in a man's
world. So approaching it with a bit of
care and compassion, but also understanding what feminine and
masculine energy actually is. So let's talk about this.
(13:28):
Yes, let's dive. Let's dive into what is
masculine energy because I hear this a lot.
And when I first started hearingthis, it sounded a lot of woo,
like it was an intangible, like here's masculine energy, here's
feminine energy. As if they're like competing
against each other, like 1 is better than the other.
Not true by the way, listeners. No and you're right, there's so
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much woo woo weird stuff out there about about what feminine
energy is and oh be more girly, be more submissive, let the man
lead. Well I don't know, bullshit who
wants to be girly or submissive and all this fakery Oh text the
man these 5 words and he'll instantly fall in love with you.
There's so much bullshit out there 5.
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Words. I'm now curious.
No. And it's like, Gee, will people
stop spewing out all this rubbish.
But essentially what the masculine and what the feminine
is. The masculine is our our
strategy, our doing, our proactive.
We're planning, we are always on, we're always succeeding,
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always organising. It's the Doo Doo Doo.
Whereas our feminine is more in the present.
We're receiving, we're in flow, we're allowing creativity.
It's nothing to do with being girly or, you know, hey.
It's not doing my hair, makeup and you know, putting in a
shorter dress and a push up bra.That's not femininity.
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And they don't compete, they actually flow beautifully
together. So everyone thinks, Oh well, at
work I'm 100% masculine. Well, you're actually not.
So for example, if you're in an in person meeting or even online
and you're presenting, you're inyour masculine.
You know, you're presenting, you're leading the room, you're
leading the meeting, you're in your masculine energy.
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Then you quite easily slip into your feminine when you're
listening, when you're listeningwith empathy, when you're
listening to understand, that's when it when you're in your
feminine, you also in your feminine when you're allowing
space to think and breathe and allowing flow and creativity.
So instead of answering something right off the bat,
you're like, OK, thinking arounda solution, being creative,
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allowing that connectivity with yourself, allowing that
intuition. So a lot of the time when we're
in our masculine, we're completely cut off from our
intuition. So our, our gut, our gut brain,
or, you know, that intuition down there, which is one of our
most powerful traits. Yeah.
So when we're in our masculine all the time, we're totally
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connect, disconnected from our body.
So when we're not feminine, we're we're reconnected with our
self so we can feel our sensations and that thick sense
of that intuition can become incredibly powerful at work and
in our personal lives. So when you're going out dating
and you smell a rat and it feels, oh, I'm not sure how I
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feel about this. We're really understanding those
sensations in our body and we can start to make smart
decisions using all forms of ourbrain, our head brain, heart
brain and the gut brain. But by being in our feminine,
and that's the only way to really tap into those
sensations, that's where we become powerful.
Yeah, I get, I get told by my friends a lot, but I don't give
men enough chances. Like I date them once and I can
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pretty much tell you whether this is going to go forward or
like stall. And a lot of that's just the how
they they react towards me, how I'm reacting towards them.
And I'm like, this feels more friendship than anything else.
But then the other question thatI get they push back on.
It's like, yeah, but friendship can evolve into love.
You're not giving it a chance. So what do you say to something
like that out in the world? Yeah, I think it's important
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when you start into dates is getting clarity about what do
you actually want in a relationship.
And when I find women, they're amazing at work.
They have To Do List strategies,frameworks, all this stuff.
But then when it comes to their dating life, it's like the
stabbing in the dark. Oh, right there.
That's why I found someone on going out on a date.
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It's like, what do you actually want?
What do you value in a relationship?
What are the most important things, those non negotiables
and what and and yet, and a lot of the time we have to strip
away of, you know, what friends and family would like to see us
with, what kind of guy society wants to see us with, what
social media power couples look like.
All that bullshit that you have to strip away and get down to
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the core of what is going to make you really happy?
What is important to you. And so when we get really
specific on those things and create a little strategy and a
plan in terms of what this guy looks like and feels like and
how how are you going to feel inhis presence?
What are things that are non negotiables?
It can be simple things, it can be large things.
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It's it's your specific plan andyour specific values in terms of
what is going to make you happy in a relationship.
So getting specific on those things to start off really helps
all the where time wasters just fall by the wayside.
Got it. So this podcast has a lot, it's
really about like bold comments,bold statements.
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And I think you've made some pretty darn bold statements.
But in the world of talking to aa client, maybe even coaching
somebody, there was a moment yousaid something and they just
kind of looked at you and said, did she just really say that?
Well, there's lots of those moments.
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I think there's a lot of aha moments that happen throughout
the my coaching program where it's not so much as did she
really say that, but what like, Oh my God, I'm more self aware.
I've just been realising all these unhelpful patterns that
have been going on in the background and it's more like,
(19:13):
not what I'm saying, but Oh my God, this is the way I've been
showing up. This is the way I am because of
I'm a product of my experience and now I'm self aware.
I can, I can understand what my triggers are and, and, and how
to move forward in a healthier way.
I think the feminine and masculine energy is probably one
of the big ones where that plaster is ripped off and like,
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Oh my God, this is me. I've been in my masculine for so
long. I, I would say that is one of
the biggest shocks that my clients have when they actually
understand what the masculine and feminine is.
And they know that actually they've got feminine within
them. It's just a bit buried and they
just need the opportunity to to let it grow and, and and shine.
(19:56):
Yeah, let it flourish in the environment in which they're at.
As you coach women through this journey of their self love, of
being in relationships, do you find that it trans transitions
or translates into other areas of their life?
Yes, absolutely. One of my former clients had a
much healthy relationship with her CEO.
So she was head of finance for this multi conglomerate in
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London and she was having an issue with her CEO and the way
he was communicating, the way hewas treating the team and how I
empower my clients to communicate how to solve
problems in a relationship also translate to solving issues in
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the workplace. So it actually transformed her
relationship at work for the better.
So all the tools that I equip myclients with helps with work.
It helps with forming better connections and friendships and
connections with your family. So it really goes full circle.
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And a client that just left yesterday, actually, she was
like, Oh my God, I can't believewhat I've just learned in the
last 12 weeks. It's just helped so many areas
of my life. And she's dating and she's
meeting some amazing guys. Not the one yet.
I can't promise you'll meet the love of your life within 12
weeks. Could be possible.
Could be Yeah. Which is meeting guys much
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closer to to to the kind of loveof the life that she.
She's the man she wants to be with, not the man that's just
showing up and she's, you know, having.
Yeah, it's like. Oh God, fix him and that's the
worst. One not to be fixed.
Your job, as in dating, is not to fix each other.
No. And that's the thing, as high
achievers, we're getting used tofixing everything, aren't we?
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Meet someone. Oh, no problem.
Yeah, I can sort. I can sort his emotional
unavailability out. I can sort that bad dress sense
out. I can sort his time management
out. I can sort his mummy issues out.
No, no, no, no, no. Those never go away.
That is not your job. That is their job and role.
Oh my good. So my next question for you,
Linda, is what's next? What do you see moving forward
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for your business, for your coaching program?
What does that look like for youin the next year, five years?
What do you want? What's the hope, dream and
desire? Yes, I'm working on.
I'm actually applying for a Ted X at the moment.
Yes. And it's going to be about how
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how achieving women tag their self worth to validation, which
I see as a big thing. And there's actually research
that backs it up, which stems from all sorts of experiences,
which I'm not going to go into too much, but it's actually a
big trend and I see it in my clients.
So that's something I'm working on right now.
I am gearing up for a whopping January because January is
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generally a busy time of year for me where people have got the
last year out of the way, right?I really want to find the love
of my life. Let's do something about it.
So I, I, I've got quite a lot ofprogrammes starting at the end
of the year and early January. So that is my main focus.
And of course I have my podcast as well, PSI Love Me, which I
(23:15):
continue to do to get wonderful experts and guests on there that
can really support my clients journey.
So yeah, more public speaking gigs, more just just helping
more women. That's what I love doing.
I think my main goal, and it is really for me to leave a legacy.
And I think that's really important for your listeners to
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hear as well, is when you're on your deathbed, looking back on
your life, like, what did you add to the world?
What did you leave behind? And yes, we can make all the
money in the world. We can have amazing job titles
and, you know, a swishy branded,flashy company.
But what did we actually do? Support the world?
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And I'm not saying we have to change million people, you know,
a million people's lives. But it's like if you can just
support and help change people and make them feel better and
happier, I think that's an amazing thing to do.
Like you, what you were doing onyour retreats, it's a fabulous
thing to be able to do for for other busy business owners for
them to go away and feel amazingabout themselves.
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And that's that's what my purpose is to help as many women
as possible, to help them also believe love is possible.
He is out there and I think there's so much negative press
around dating at the moment. You go on social media, you read
the news and it's all doom and gloom and it doesn't have to be
that way. There are some great guys out
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there. I found my guy a year ago and
he's the absolute love of my life.
But I had the mindset, I knew hewas out there.
I believed he was out there. I had specific frameworks and
strategies and value elicitations that I went through
that I was so, so clear on what I did and didn't want.
And before I met him, I met somegreat guys, like really great
(25:06):
guys. They taught me about myself.
I learnt something new. But I I knew I was getting
closer and closer to meeting himbecause the quality of my dates
was getting better and better. So yeah.
Hint, hint, lady, she said it a couple times.
When you're dating, the quality of the men get better and better
means you're getting closer. So refine think.
(25:29):
And I will tell you this as women is women in business,
relationships are #1 key. And the more we can have a
deeper understanding of relationship with ourselves,
with who we want to be interacting with.
And we talked about in the business world, finding your
right avatar in the world of dating as it's the same thing.
You have to strip away all the BS and get down to what's the
core value? Who are you looking to align
(25:51):
with? And I think that's the part of
the journey that I love. What Like Linda shares with you.
So Linda, I know you have a giftbecause we're wrapping up.
I can't believe we're almost through this episode.
This is such good juicy stuff. Gone by in a flash.
It has so let's talk about the the the ability to get into your
coaching program. You're offering a really
(26:12):
incredible deal, but they and itis really simple just to get
coaching from you and ladies if you're like looking to date, but
that's who you want to get with.So get into this conversation
with her. So talk a little bit about the
program and what's available inside for them.
Yeah, so it's called the EvolvedWoman Program.
It's a 12 week journey and I help single female entrepreneurs
(26:34):
and high achievers improve the relationship they have with
themselves so they can attract the love of their life just like
what I did and what I have coached many, many women.
So it's 12 weeks, It's group coaching, one on ones with me as
well as specific workshops everyweek for them to do their inner
work and then I guide them through every session.
(26:54):
It's very hands on from me. There's a lot of programs out
there which you have to log intosome big system and keep up with
it. But I know I've been there as a
as a busy woman. So I literally spoon feed my
clients what they need to do every week.
So it's really, really easy and straightforward to follow.
It's really time efficient, no fluffiness.
I'm an ex communications girl soeverything in there is very
(27:18):
succinct and packed so you get the most out of it and as little
as time as possible. And I would love to offer your
listeners 30% off for the next two months if they sign up for
the January 2026 program. Well, I'd love that.
So definitely sign up for the 2026 program as you're talking
about the involved woman that you know what I think what's
brilliant is that it is a high touch, right?
(27:42):
That it is the sense of connecting with the females.
I did have a quick thought that blew through the back of my mind
that I just want to ask a question around.
Is it like hundreds of women going through Armenia?
It feels like if you're doing one-on-one coaching, it's a very
intimate experience during thosethose those 12 weeks of working
with you. Yeah, no, it's really exclusive.
(28:02):
So the group coaching calls I have between 4:00 to 6:00 on
each group coaching calls. And sometimes because I have a 2
hour time period of when I coach, you might not see another
lady. Sometimes you will and you'll
you'll share, you know, your experiences throughout the
program and you're you're dating, which is quite nice to
that. I have a community as well, but
it's very high touch and in the world of AI and all the
(28:27):
artificial intelligence out there, it's it's real, it's
authentic. And I handhold you throughout
the whole way. I'm available on e-mail for 12
weeks. So I feel like some of the women
don't use me enough. I'm like, use me.
It's only like when they start start dating, they start
emailing me and then they realize the responses I'm giving
(28:47):
them like, Oh my God, I should have been emailing you from week
1. But yeah, it's, it's really high
touch and hands on. And I absolutely love the
results that I get and the transition that I see from all
my clients. It's it's amazing.
And I think that's what we want as women.
We want to find the love of our lives.
We want to be able to be in a relationship that feels as
(29:09):
comfortable as as waking up in the morning and being safe.
I think that's one of the big things for women is that safety
too, is when we talk about beinga woman in the world, there is
that place, the sense of feelingsafe.
We're always in a fight and flight as human beings.
And so the ability to create safety in a relationship from
both partners and knowing that is really, really key.
(29:30):
So Linda, I just want to say thank you for everyone that's
listening, ladies and maybe eventhe gentleman.
I hope you took away something in here that thought made you
think, Oh my gosh, this is something that I can use.
Or I know another woman that could definitely benefit from
this conversation and getting towork with Linda.
So the evolved woman, excuse me,I'm coming off a little bit of a
(29:53):
cold. Go ahead there.
She's offering a 30% discount. You just have to mention truth
bomb, keeping it really simple and just say, you know, I heard
you on the podcast. I'd love to learn more about the
program, dive in, connect with her.
If nothing else, her amazing accent is reason enough just to,
you know, do business with her. Throw that in there, have some
(30:15):
fun, get a little bit of the quirkiness and she's just
amazing. So thank you so much, Linda, for
being on here, for dropping truth bombs, for being truly
authentic around your journey around relationships.
What had you create this program, the evolution from one
business into the next and your life legacy, what you're
creating moving forward. And I hope to to God to find you
(30:37):
on a Ted Talk stage. That would be amazing and just
everything that you're doing. So thank you so much again for
being on this episode of Did SheReally Say That?
Audience and listeners definitely Student.
TuneIn, Linda. Any last words for our
listeners? My lasting words of wisdom would
be be yourself. Everyone else is taken.
(31:01):
Mic drop with that, ladies. We'll see you on the next
episode.
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