February 5, 2024 • 32 mins
Today we have the privilege of having Megan Gersch, a branding and website design expert on the show. She shares some juicy secrets she’s learned through her 17 years in the industry of what to do and what not to do when it comes to creating your website. We also dove into social media tips and tricks, so you’re not going to want to miss a moment! So tune in and let’s make some magic.
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(00:00):
Well, welcome everyone to today's episode of Did She
Really Say that? This is the podcast that's
disrupting the business world asfar as it is concerned with
women in business. We, all three of my myself and
my business partners, just got tired of all of the BS that's
out there when it comes to the traditional business methods and
(00:21):
how to build a business. And we wanted to show people how
to start having more fun, play and ease as they learn to unlock
their millions. And today we have a super
special guest for you. I'm so excited to chat with her.
I can't wait to hear her little Nuggets of wisdom, But I'm Karen
Angeli. I'm one of the cofounders of
Truth Bond Marketing, and today I'm going to be interviewing
(00:43):
Megan Gersh, and she is an expert in web design, and she's
actually got an even better description for what she does.
So Megan, tell us what you do. Hey, thank you so much for
having me on. This is so fun to finally
connect in real time. I know we've been on the online
space like friends for a long time so thank you so much.
(01:06):
I help music industry disruptorsnail their digital presence by
creating bold and kind of avant-garde branding and website
design. So everything when it that it
comes to, like when it comes to their digital presence, you
know, creative direction, all ofthat, that's something that I
help them with. Yeah.
(01:26):
And honestly like, so just a little background on Megan and
myself, we actually met on TikTok, right.
So I remember when we first like, connected, I remember
seeing you and seeing your hair and being like, oh, she's my
people. I think at the time you either
had blue or purple hair. And I just was like, oh, she's
(01:49):
definitely my people. And once I started kind of
looking at what you did, I was like, oh, this is the reason
that she has blue and purple hair.
Because you're definitely one ofthose people that it looks like
you like to push the limits. It looks like you like to create
bold blaring like pay attention to me kind of websites and I
(02:11):
love that about you. Yeah, thank you so much.
Yeah, that's definitely like my main ethos.
Like, I've always kind of been the type of person to kind of
like, go my own way. And I tend to attract those
kinds of people into my circle as well, which is like,
honestly, like the most fun thing for me, just because we
automatically tend to have a connection.
(02:33):
And yeah, I just love pushing the boundaries of design.
I love like seeing how far we can go with like bold messaging
and bold communication within the digital space.
Yeah. And when you say bold, you mean
bold. And I love that because it
really does just attract the right people to certain brands.
(02:55):
And I just, I I can't say enoughabout about you to be completely
honest, because you just always had a really good vibe too.
I always loved checking out whatyou were doing and what you were
talking about. You just always had the greatest
vibes. So always appreciated that.
But what inspired you? So when I first, when I first
(03:15):
met you, you were really focusedon web design specifically, But
what made you kind of like, whatmade you inspired to start doing
more music stuff, 'cause I feel like it's been recently.
Correct me if I'm wrong though. Well, my background is based in
the music industry and so way before I got on TikTok, I have
(03:37):
17 years experience in the musicindustry.
And so ever since I got out of, I mean even before I was in
college, like I was always like promoting shows for my friends,
bands and stuff like that. And I kind of always knew that I
wanted to go into the music industry in some kind of
creative capacity. And so I've set out to basically
figure out if I could actually do that.
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And so throughout my career, I've always been in the graphics
world and the web design world, have had several very incredible
gigs along the way in my career.And I just love helping both
artists as well as businesses that support the industry, just
because, like, I'm so passionateabout how music has impacted my
(04:20):
life and so I want to be able togive back in a way with my skill
set. Yeah.
So are you a musician yourself? Do you?
Play anything I'm not, but I'm an avid concert goer.
I just have loved music since I was a kid.
So I've always tried to dabble in a few things.
Like I tried DJ ING for a littlewhile, tried producing, and
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like, I still kind of like once in a while if I get the itch,
I'll go and kind of mess around with it.
But I'm not like putting out music or any of that.
Yeah, yeah. But that's okay that it's it's
fun to work with those kind of creative people because like I
said, you do have that bold blaring and a lot of times those
creative people love that too. So it's like the perfect fit for
(05:03):
you, to be completely honest. Yeah, totally so.
As you kind of like. As you've been.
Through your whole, what did yousay 17 years that you've been
doing? Yeah.
So as you've been through that 17 years, what do you feel like
Was the biggest, like, aha moment for you that you were
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like, oh, I needed to learn. If I had learned this on day
one, that would have been. That would have changed my
entire career. It's funny you bring this up,
'cause I actually did a post about this yesterday, so it's
fresh in my mind, but it's got to be video marketing.
Video marketing completely changed my business.
Like when I found Tiktok in 2020, that was like the moment
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that like completely like shifted my business.
Because back in those days, like, it was a lot easier to go
viral. It was a lot easier to get a lot
more eyeballs on your business for like $0.00.
And so I I kept seeing all of these creators, you know, people
that I had never heard of, getting all of this visibility.
And I just, like, I had the thought to myself, like if these
(06:10):
people who I have never heard ofin my life are getting this kind
of massive visibility, maybe I could too.
And then so I started creating video content and sure enough,
you know, on my first account, you know, some of those videos
started to go viral and I started to get some of that
visibility on my business and itit literally changed my entire
(06:30):
business. That's awesome.
Yeah, TikTok really like especially back in its heyday in
2020, like that was the time andI got on TikTok, I think it was
20, I think it was 2021. So I was a little bit after and
at that time I was promoting network marketing, which TikTok
doesn't really like. So it took me a minute to kind
(06:52):
of like get moving forward with it.
But I I totally agree with you when it comes to like video
marketing and how that can just completely change the trajectory
of anybody's business. I know for myself I have always
just focused on that video piece, 'cause I know that's what
(07:12):
people are looking for right now.
So did you have somebody that was like, oh, you need to get on
TikTok? Or did you just hear all the
stories and you're like, I just got to do this?
So I mean, I'd heard a little bit about it in the marketing
world and I'd heard like rumblings of like back when it
was musically and all of that, but I'd never kind of like
explored it. And once when I got on there,
(07:36):
there weren't a ton of business creators on there yet.
Like there, it wasn't really being used for that yet.
There were some, but it it just wasn't a lot.
And everybody as far as marketers go, like all of the
marketers were very specialized that were on there.
And so there was like, you know,one SEO person, there was one
and one website design. You know, like it's that kind of
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thing. And and, yeah, I mean it, it was
one of those things where I was like, you know, right before the
pandemic hit, I was like, I'd heard a lot about this thing.
Like, let me just download it and see what it's about and kind
of just explore it a little bit.And that's when I started to
see, like, these creators that Ihad just never heard of before.
And I was like, what is this? There's there's definitely
(08:18):
something here to tap into. You know, as a marketer, you're
just like, what's what's going on here?
Like, how is this happening? So yeah, I started to play
around with it. Yeah, yeah.
Recently we've had people tell us that, and you're probably
going to cringe when I say this,but we've had people say that
they decided to get rid of theirwebsite because of things like
(08:42):
TikTok or social media. You're cringing right now, So
what would you say to that if somebody came to you and was
like, you know, I think I'm gonna get rid of my website.
Like, I'm doing really good on social media.
Like what would you do? I would first say, well my
account got deleted out of nowhere, so please don't do
that. And I had been on TikTok for,
(09:03):
let's see, three years, posting literally multiple videos a day.
And my account was gone, just like overnight.
No explanation, no way to get itback.
I sent in the appeals. I did all the things, and it's
gone into the ether somewhere. And so it's something that you
think can never happen to you. And like, especially as like a
(09:24):
marketer, like, I felt like I was, like abiding by the
guidelines. Like, like, I knew, you know,
what I was supposed to be doing up and down, but still this is
something that happened to me. So like, if it happened to me,
it could happen to you like it'sanybody, you know it.
It can happen to most anyone outthere.
So like, I would be really careful about putting all of
(09:46):
your eggs in one basket, especially when it comes to
social media. Like I treat it as rented space.
Every single platform, you know,your platform could be gone in
an instant. So I mean, that's why I'm so
grateful that I had my website, I had other social media
channels, I had my e-mail list, so I had other places that I
could fall back on in the meantime.
(10:07):
I also started another TikTok account in the in the meantime,
just because I wanted to keep upthat momentum of content
creation and keep in that mindset of like, I just need to
keep going because like, I can't.
I cannot let this one thing stopme.
I feel like I'm getting into like entrepreneur mindset of
like you know, like you just have to like you know things are
(10:29):
gonna happen in your business and you just have to like keep
on pushing. But that's really how I felt in
that moment. Yeah, no.
And that that honestly, you talkabout the entrepreneurial
mindset and that's something that's my passion, that's my
baby. I love talking about that
because it at the end of the day, if you want to be
successful, it's all about what's going on up here.
(10:50):
Like I'm big on manifestation and I think you are too.
And I've realized that, like, what are the, what are the
thoughts that I'm thinking? And how is it actually relating
to my business? And how does that, like, change
what's happening in my business?So yeah, I'm glad.
I'm glad that you got back on TikTok and you just kept going
because I was like, I wonder what's happening with Megan.
(11:12):
I want to see what's going on. And lo and behold, I'm like,
wait, this isn't her. TikTok, what's going on?
Here, you know, yeah, I still get messages from people that
had like saved a ton of my videos.
Like, and they find my new account and they message me
being like I had probably 50 or so of your videos saved for
(11:34):
stuff that I was gonna do, improvements that I was gonna
make to my website or to my socials or whatever.
And now they're all gone. And it's just, it's just like
they're just poof, they're gone.And so it's really, really
interesting. And it's just goes to show you
too that like not everybody seesevery, every post.
Because I personally feel like Ihave been talking about that
(11:56):
loss of that account like since it happened like a lot.
And I feel like I've kind of just been like, you know, just
saying it over and over. But like it just goes to show
you that not everybody sees every post because I still am
getting messages about this and the the account deletion
happened. I think it was May of last year
that was a. Long time ago.
(12:17):
I don't think I realized how long ago that was.
Dang, girl. Yeah.
But I mean you you brought up a really important point that like
and we've talked about this on, did she really say that before
you have 0 control over your ownsocial media, you have no way of
(12:39):
controlling what happens, but what's the difference between
that and your website? Let's talk about that a little
bit. Yeah, I mean I always think of
social versus website is like social is kind of in a lot of
ways like your entry point to your website.
So it's the way that you get attention to your business and
your website is almost like the second step.
(13:00):
Like it's if you think about it like dating, like social media
is like the first date and then you know your website might be
the second date. Like if they want to get to know
you a little bit more, if they want to learn more about your
services or your products and and you know it really needs to
go like a little bit deeper thanyour socials.
Like they think about like when when you go to a website you
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probably are going to find out more information, maybe the
pricing, maybe look at some testimonials and see how other
people have had an experience when working with you.
So it really needs to go a little bit, a little bit deeper
than just, you know, the surfacelevel of social.
Yeah, and really your specialityis just helping, helping brands
(13:45):
to brighten up, to get bold and to really direct people where
you want them to go, right? Yeah, I I love this.
This is like the strategy side of website design, which gets me
like so excited honestly. But there's just so many
different, like, design, psychology type things and also
(14:05):
just marketing strategy that I like to infuse into website
design. Like, for example, one that
always blows people's minds is like you can actually use, you
know, people's eyesight lines tolook at an offer or like it.
It helps to draw attention to a specific place on the page.
And so that's one that people are like, Oh yeah, I've like,
(14:28):
never noticed that, But I always, like, do that.
I'm like, yeah, it's because it's a it's a psychology thing
that we integrate into the website design.
Yeah. So did you go to school for
graphic design? You did.
OK, Yeah. OK, So that really has been a
huge focus for you too. So, OK, so are you.
Whenever you went to school for graphic design, did you plan on
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doing what you're doing now, or was it just something that kind
of fill in your lap? I think I had a vision for it.
It was. So I went to school for media
arts and design. It was basically one of the
first programs at my college, actually that kind of melded
like graphic design with like web design and marketing.
So it was like this like kind ofnewer program where like, you
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know, this is before even like transparent images were
available. Yeah, it's it's been a while.
But yeah, I think I already had like a a vision for, like, you
know, combining these worlds of music and art and figuring out
how I could fit into what was needed in that space.
(15:36):
And yeah, I just made it work. Yeah, so if you if you had
somebody come to you today and they were like I need, I need
help with like what I'm doing, what would be like your first
tip for them or like what what'sa multiple step tip that you'd
be like this is what you need tofocus on and then this and then
this, what would you do? I mean as far as a website goes,
(15:59):
like your main priority when you're first starting should be
your homepage, like making sure that it's optimized.
You know there's 1000 tips that I could give you on this, but
you know most of your website traffic is going to go to your
homepage. So this is the the page on your
site that you need in absolute tip top shape.
This is something that if the trust is broken there between
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the website visitor and the brand, like that's it.
They're going to bounce. Like if something's not working,
something doesn't look good on mobile.
You know, if a button or something isn't clickable, like
those types of things that are like so easily overlooked.
But it's the kind of thing when you see it on a website, you're
like, oh, like they didn't take the time to kind of spot check
(16:44):
this or this feels like an unprofessional, you know,
company untrustworthy brand, right?
So just taking extra special care with your home page I think
would be the biggest tip. Mm hmm.
Yeah. No, I would absolutely agree.
And So what, Like when you're looking at somebody's home page
and you're like they missed this, what's that one thing that
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you're like, you're missing this.
You need this. Testimonials.
Honestly, social proof is so big.
Like, you know, think about if you were the customer, but put
yourself in their shoes. Like, what are they looking for?
They're looking for proof that you can deliver what you say you
can deliver. So, like, what does that look
like? Your past work and your
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testimonials. Like, what are people actually
saying about not the not only the actual work that you can do
for them, but what do you like to work with?
Like, what do you like as a human being?
Because you're most likely, mostlikely going to be working with
this person for a prolonged period of time, right?
So they want to make sure that it's a good personality fit as
well. Yeah, yeah, you're so right.
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And that's something like I knowwith my own website, before I
started doing Truth Bomb with these two other ladies, it was
like, I knew I needed it, but I was like, it's just going to
take some time and work. It it takes a little while too
to like, I think from a brand perspective, like it can take a
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little while, especially as a personal brand, to really get
comfortable with leaning into who you are.
And I think that especially, like, more inexperienced
entrepreneurs have kind of more of a barrier up when it comes to
like, oh, I I don't want to likeoffend people.
I don't want to push people away.
But like, in reality, the more that you lean into who you are
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and your weirdness and your quirks and you know all of that,
like your dream, people are going to be drawn to you because
of that. So it's it's a hard lesson to
learn and it definitely takes practice, like you know, getting
more comfortable with yourself and and your brand, but it's so
worth it in the end. Yeah, yeah.
And you talk about like, leaninginto your weirdness.
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I feel like TikTok is all about that.
Oh yeah. Did you notice that when you
first got on, you were like, hey, I can just be me?
Absolutely, yeah. And that's one of the things
that kind of tributed the platform, honestly.
Yeah, I feel like that's true for a lot of people that fall in
love with it, that they're just like, I can just be my weird
self and people are cool with it.
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Honestly, Yeah. It's not like the whole like
polished of Instagram because like for me, I was never, I was
never really into Instagram. It was never something for me, I
don't know about you, but like with TikTok, it was like, oh, I
can just can just be. And that's cool.
And nobody's nobody's upset withthat, because everybody else is
(19:39):
just being, too. Yeah, yeah.
But the cultures are definitely very, very different when it per
platform and it it definitely feels way more relaxed,
honestly. Yeah.
What's your least favorite platform?
I'm curious. Probably Twitter.
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Sam. Sam.
Honestly, YouTube is pretty quickly behind that.
Sorry. Sorry to say.
Nope. It's cool.
I have. I have a special place in my
heart for YouTube and I realizedthat there's some the thing with
YouTube is you kind of have to get over the gamer dudes that
are on there. Couldn't hang.
(20:23):
I last year was like my year of like really trying to make my
YouTube work and like really putting a lot of effort into it
and I just couldn't hang with the community there.
Like I like, I I was joking withmy husband the other day about
like you know how how YouTube sends over like that end of year
wrap up or whatever. It's kind of like the the
YouTube wrapped. I was joking with him.
(20:45):
I was like yeah, you got like you know 500 comments this year
and I like jokingly said like yeah 499 of them were negative
like, no that's that's how my been my experience with YouTube
like it it's it's a lot of the the gamer dudes and you know
it's it's been a lot of toxicityover there in my experience.
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But I know a lot of people have success with it.
So I mean more power to you. I just couldn't hang.
Yeah, it's it's been funny because I had to, like, pause my
other YouTube stuff whenever we started Truth Bomb marketing
together because it was just like, I can't do all of this.
But then after that, all the right people just came flocking
(21:29):
to me and I was like, well, OK, like I haven't even posted over
there in like a year. I was like, maybe I need to
start posting over there. Yeah, there's something about
that. But.
Yeah, I mean there's there's definitely benefits to it.
I mean the ties with Google and all of that like I see, I know
like as a marketer like the benefits of it.
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I just, you know, as a one person operation like I I I just
had to pick and choose like where it was spending my energy.
Yeah, yeah. So let's get back to like the
website stuff, 'cause I know yougot lots of goodness over on
this. So I know that there's so many
places where you can build a website.
(22:10):
And I already know your answer to this, but I want, I want
people to hear this because I feel like this is so incredibly
important. So where if somebody was new and
wanting to build their website and they were just like, I'm
going to do this, and maybe theydidn't even want your help, but
they were like, I'm going to start doing this.
Where would you suggest that they start building their
(22:31):
website? Well, my first question to them
would be what type of business do you have?
Because that is going to impact the answer if you have an
e-commerce business, no matter what, Shopify is the best
option. It's definitely not the easiest
option for e-commerce. It's literally built for that.
(22:53):
There's no other platform in thegame that does it as well as
Spotify or Spotify. Shopify what if I?
Said Shopify the first time you did.
You got it right, You got it I. Always do that.
But if you have a service based business, my current favorite
website platform is show it. And that's because the platform
(23:17):
is completely drag and drop. I have been able to create
website templates for my clientsand so it makes it very, very
plug and play. It also has all of the amazing
SEO capabilities that you need. So it's like this perfect meld
of like design with strategy which I really love.
(23:38):
My website has literally never done better when it comes to
SEO. And so it's like when I switched
over my website a year, probablya year plus ago to show it like
I was just like, this is it for me.
So yeah, I mean, it's it really depends on your situation, what
you were looking for out of a website design, but those are my
(23:58):
two favorites. I also love Squarespace, I love
WordPress, but it really just depends on what you're trying to
do. Yeah, it's true.
And you actually came out of nowhere.
I thought you were going to say WordPress.
So I'm going to have to look more in to show it.
I think recently I was looking at your stuff and I was like,
oh, I think you had, you mentioned that on your website
(24:18):
too, that that's what you offer to your people.
So what drew you to show it besides the drag and drop?
Is it just because it was so simple for people to set up even
for themselves and simple for you, or what?
What was it that you were like? I got to I start doing this and
who told you about it? So I heard about it on TikTok
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and I I started digging into it because I mean I'm always
curious about like, you know, website platforms.
And all of that. Like, I'm always like, I need
to. I need to like, do my due
diligence here. And so I started playing around
with it and I was like, oh, like, This is why everybody's,
like, talking about this platform is crazy.
(25:01):
It's just like, I'm so, so much of a designer at heart that it
literally is like infinite design flexibility when it comes
to what you want to do on your website.
So it would really, really easily with no code.
Like, you can make things overlap.
You can drag things into different sections, like, you
can make, you know, different, like sliders and things like
(25:22):
that. Like really really awesome stuff
and it melt like the other part of it is like I have a blog on
my website and so it actually uses WordPress as the back end
of the blog. So.
That's awesome, I say. OK.
I know now every time I tell people that and they're really,
if they love WordPress, they're like, whoa.
(25:43):
Yeah, I might have to look into this for my video marketing
Unicorn stuff. Yeah, so yeah, like, I mean,
because of that, you're also able to leverage all of those
awesome plugins like the WordPress plugins for the
WordPress side of it. So you get like this amazing
essentially like a skinning capability where you can like
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skin your website any way that you want and design it any way
that you want. And it also uses WordPress.
So you get all of those amazing SEO benefits.
You can use the plugins like it's.
It's really just like the perfect marriage of like design
and functionality. I'm gonna have to check this
out. Like I am like stalled right
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now. Holy crap, Because like, I've
always been a WordPress baby, right?
But the thing with WordPress is it can be complicated,
especially if you're new. So and I've been, I've been
using WordPress for like 6 yearsthough.
So for me it was like, OK, I cando this.
I don't love it 'cause it's not as like simple as what you just
(26:51):
said. So now I'm like I might need to
check this out. Literally, it's like the best
platform that I've used in all of my my years of website
design. It makes it.
The other thing that I love about it too is like, it makes
it super easy for I'm. I'm like a really big advocate
for people to be able to update their websites, like once
(27:12):
they're complete. And this platform makes it so
very easy because everything's drag and drop.
Like you literally can just likemove it over wherever you want
and it's just boom, it's done. And so, yeah, just love it all
the way around. Yeah, and as far as like,
setting up your domain and all of that, Simple too.
Yeah. OK, yeah, I'm.
(27:34):
I'm sold. I'm excited.
I'm glad you told talked about this because I'm like, I'm going
to have to check this out because I had been looking for
something that could make my life easier for my video
marketing Unicorn. Since it's not been my main
focus for a while. And I knew I needed to update my
website for so long when I was like, oh, I don't want to
(27:54):
because it's going to take me a while.
So I will. I will drop you my affiliate
link. You can get a month a month for
free. I love that.
I absolutely love that. So we'll, we'll have you drop
your affiliate link here too. So that way we can.
Yeah. So anyways, so one last one last
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question is what would be your biggest piece of advice for any
female entrepreneur that was looking to start their business
and start let's let's focus on the website, like what would be
your biggest piece of advice that you're like is is go time
like what would you say? There's a lot of competition out
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there. I don't really believe in like
competitors per SE, but like, when you look at it kind of
objectively, like there's a lot of, there's gonna be a lot of
other people that do what you do.
And so that is why it's so important to be bold, stand out,
you know, figure out how you're doing things differently and
really put yourself in your own category, right.
(28:59):
And so this is one of the thingsthat, like, I always talk about
in my marketing. I always talk about like how,
how are you doing things differently?
Like, yeah, everybody can then build websites, but how are you
doing it? Or yeah, everybody is a
photographer. Like everybody's doing
photography, but how are you making it a little bit more
special for your clients? Like, what are the things that
you're doing that go above and beyond?
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And those are the types of folksthat I really like to work with
too. The the people that really push
the envelope and like, you know,really kind of push it to the
limits of what is possible within their niche.
But yeah, I would just say figuring that out and when it
comes to your website design andcommunicating that clearly is
going to be so key when it comesto when people come to make a
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purchase decision, like if it's very, very clear why your
service is different, pricing becomes less of a thing because
you're the only one that is doing it the way that you're
doing it. Yeah, you're so right.
And like, that's the thing that we've really focused on with
Truth Bomb marketing is we're like, we want to, we want to
create more female entrepreneur.Well, create more female
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millionaires than ever before. Because we looked at the stats
of how many male millionaires there were in the
entrepreneurial space space compared to the females.
And we were kind of like, yeah, that doesn't make any sense.
So totally spot on with what youjust said.
Like, look for the, the space where you can get in and really
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shine. Like, I've heard this before and
you've probably heard this before.
The riches are in the niches. Like, yeah, it's that's really
what it's about. If you're trying to serve
everyone, you're serving no one at the end of the day.
So yeah, so good. I'm so glad that we got to chat,
like, this was really fun and I'm really excited to, honestly,
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I'm excited to check out show ita little bit more.
So I know that you also have other freebies too.
So let everyone know like first of all, where we can get your
freebie, tell us like where we can like find your show it, all
of that. Like where can we go and what
social media platforms and your website and everything.
(31:09):
So let us know. Okay, so my website is Megan
gersh.com. It's MEGANGERS ch.com and
there's a resources page there where you can grab all of my
freebies. I have a free website checklist.
There's some other goodies on there as well, but you can find
me on socials. My my handles are a little all
(31:32):
over the place just because of my account deletion last year.
But you can find me on TikTok atat Megan dot Gersh or on
Instagram at Megan Gersh. All one word and yeah, would
love to hear from you. Yeah, I'm so glad we got to
connect. So really like it.
You're just you're just truly like one of my favorite people
(31:53):
on social media. Because you just really have oh
really cool vibe. So guys, if you haven't checked
her out, you need to go check her out right now.
She is phenomenal. She can help your brand stand
out, your messaging stand out. And so with that I guess we can
call this a wrap. So until next time can't wait to
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connect with everyone on did shereally say that?
And we'll see you inside the Truth Bomb Academy.
Well, welcome everyone to today's episode of Did She
Really Say that? This is the podcast that's
disrupting the business world asfar as it is concerned with
women in business. We, all three of my myself and
my business partners, just got tired of all of the BS that's
out there when it comes to the traditional business methods and
(00:21):
how to build a business. And we wanted to show people how
to start having more fun, play and ease as they learn to unlock
their millions. And today we have a super
special guest for you. I'm so excited to chat with her.
I can't wait to hear her little Nuggets of wisdom, But I'm Karen
Angeli. I'm one of the cofounders of
Truth Bond Marketing, and today I'm going to be interviewing
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Megan Gersh, and she is an expert in web design, and she's
actually got an even better description for what she does.
So Megan, tell us what you do. Hey, thank you so much for
having me on. This is so fun to finally
connect in real time. I know we've been on the online
space like friends for a long time so thank you so much.
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I help music industry disruptorsnail their digital presence by
creating bold and kind of avant-garde branding and website
design. So everything when it that it
comes to, like when it comes to their digital presence, you
know, creative direction, all ofthat, that's something that I
help them with. Yeah.
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And honestly like, so just a little background on Megan and
myself, we actually met on TikTok, right.
So I remember when we first like, connected, I remember
seeing you and seeing your hair and being like, oh, she's my
people. I think at the time you either
had blue or purple hair. And I just was like, oh, she's
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definitely my people. And once I started kind of
looking at what you did, I was like, oh, this is the reason
that she has blue and purple hair.
Because you're definitely one ofthose people that it looks like
you like to push the limits. It looks like you like to create
bold blaring like pay attention to me kind of websites and I
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love that about you. Yeah, thank you so much.
Yeah, that's definitely like my main ethos.
Like, I've always kind of been the type of person to kind of
like, go my own way. And I tend to attract those
kinds of people into my circle as well, which is like,
honestly, like the most fun thing for me, just because we
automatically tend to have a connection.
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And yeah, I just love pushing the boundaries of design.
I love like seeing how far we can go with like bold messaging
and bold communication within the digital space.
Yeah. And when you say bold, you mean
bold. And I love that because it
really does just attract the right people to certain brands.
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And I just, I I can't say enoughabout about you to be completely
honest, because you just always had a really good vibe too.
I always loved checking out whatyou were doing and what you were
talking about. You just always had the greatest
vibes. So always appreciated that.
But what inspired you? So when I first, when I first
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met you, you were really focusedon web design specifically, But
what made you kind of like, whatmade you inspired to start doing
more music stuff, 'cause I feel like it's been recently.
Correct me if I'm wrong though. Well, my background is based in
the music industry and so way before I got on TikTok, I have
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17 years experience in the musicindustry.
And so ever since I got out of, I mean even before I was in
college, like I was always like promoting shows for my friends,
bands and stuff like that. And I kind of always knew that I
wanted to go into the music industry in some kind of
creative capacity. And so I've set out to basically
figure out if I could actually do that.
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And so throughout my career, I've always been in the graphics
world and the web design world, have had several very incredible
gigs along the way in my career.And I just love helping both
artists as well as businesses that support the industry, just
because, like, I'm so passionateabout how music has impacted my
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life and so I want to be able togive back in a way with my skill
set. Yeah.
So are you a musician yourself? Do you?
Play anything I'm not, but I'm an avid concert goer.
I just have loved music since I was a kid.
So I've always tried to dabble in a few things.
Like I tried DJ ING for a littlewhile, tried producing, and
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like, I still kind of like once in a while if I get the itch,
I'll go and kind of mess around with it.
But I'm not like putting out music or any of that.
Yeah, yeah. But that's okay that it's it's
fun to work with those kind of creative people because like I
said, you do have that bold blaring and a lot of times those
creative people love that too. So it's like the perfect fit for
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you, to be completely honest. Yeah, totally so.
As you kind of like. As you've been.
Through your whole, what did yousay 17 years that you've been
doing? Yeah.
So as you've been through that 17 years, what do you feel like
Was the biggest, like, aha moment for you that you were
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like, oh, I needed to learn. If I had learned this on day
one, that would have been. That would have changed my
entire career. It's funny you bring this up,
'cause I actually did a post about this yesterday, so it's
fresh in my mind, but it's got to be video marketing.
Video marketing completely changed my business.
Like when I found Tiktok in 2020, that was like the moment
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that like completely like shifted my business.
Because back in those days, like, it was a lot easier to go
viral. It was a lot easier to get a lot
more eyeballs on your business for like $0.00.
And so I I kept seeing all of these creators, you know, people
that I had never heard of, getting all of this visibility.
And I just, like, I had the thought to myself, like if these
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people who I have never heard ofin my life are getting this kind
of massive visibility, maybe I could too.
And then so I started creating video content and sure enough,
you know, on my first account, you know, some of those videos
started to go viral and I started to get some of that
visibility on my business and itit literally changed my entire
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business. That's awesome.
Yeah, TikTok really like especially back in its heyday in
2020, like that was the time andI got on TikTok, I think it was
20, I think it was 2021. So I was a little bit after and
at that time I was promoting network marketing, which TikTok
doesn't really like. So it took me a minute to kind
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of like get moving forward with it.
But I I totally agree with you when it comes to like video
marketing and how that can just completely change the trajectory
of anybody's business. I know for myself I have always
just focused on that video piece, 'cause I know that's what
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people are looking for right now.
So did you have somebody that was like, oh, you need to get on
TikTok? Or did you just hear all the
stories and you're like, I just got to do this?
So I mean, I'd heard a little bit about it in the marketing
world and I'd heard like rumblings of like back when it
was musically and all of that, but I'd never kind of like
explored it. And once when I got on there,
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there weren't a ton of business creators on there yet.
Like there, it wasn't really being used for that yet.
There were some, but it it just wasn't a lot.
And everybody as far as marketers go, like all of the
marketers were very specialized that were on there.
And so there was like, you know,one SEO person, there was one
and one website design. You know, like it's that kind of
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thing. And and, yeah, I mean it, it was
one of those things where I was like, you know, right before the
pandemic hit, I was like, I'd heard a lot about this thing.
Like, let me just download it and see what it's about and kind
of just explore it a little bit.And that's when I started to
see, like, these creators that Ihad just never heard of before.
And I was like, what is this? There's there's definitely
(08:18):
something here to tap into. You know, as a marketer, you're
just like, what's what's going on here?
Like, how is this happening? So yeah, I started to play
around with it. Yeah, yeah.
Recently we've had people tell us that, and you're probably
going to cringe when I say this,but we've had people say that
they decided to get rid of theirwebsite because of things like
(08:42):
TikTok or social media. You're cringing right now, So
what would you say to that if somebody came to you and was
like, you know, I think I'm gonna get rid of my website.
Like, I'm doing really good on social media.
Like what would you do? I would first say, well my
account got deleted out of nowhere, so please don't do
that. And I had been on TikTok for,
(09:03):
let's see, three years, posting literally multiple videos a day.
And my account was gone, just like overnight.
No explanation, no way to get itback.
I sent in the appeals. I did all the things, and it's
gone into the ether somewhere. And so it's something that you
think can never happen to you. And like, especially as like a
(09:24):
marketer, like, I felt like I was, like abiding by the
guidelines. Like, like, I knew, you know,
what I was supposed to be doing up and down, but still this is
something that happened to me. So like, if it happened to me,
it could happen to you like it'sanybody, you know it.
It can happen to most anyone outthere.
So like, I would be really careful about putting all of
(09:46):
your eggs in one basket, especially when it comes to
social media. Like I treat it as rented space.
Every single platform, you know,your platform could be gone in
an instant. So I mean, that's why I'm so
grateful that I had my website, I had other social media
channels, I had my e-mail list, so I had other places that I
could fall back on in the meantime.
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I also started another TikTok account in the in the meantime,
just because I wanted to keep upthat momentum of content
creation and keep in that mindset of like, I just need to
keep going because like, I can't.
I cannot let this one thing stopme.
I feel like I'm getting into like entrepreneur mindset of
like you know, like you just have to like you know things are
(10:29):
gonna happen in your business and you just have to like keep
on pushing. But that's really how I felt in
that moment. Yeah, no.
And that that honestly, you talkabout the entrepreneurial
mindset and that's something that's my passion, that's my
baby. I love talking about that
because it at the end of the day, if you want to be
successful, it's all about what's going on up here.
(10:50):
Like I'm big on manifestation and I think you are too.
And I've realized that, like, what are the, what are the
thoughts that I'm thinking? And how is it actually relating
to my business? And how does that, like, change
what's happening in my business?So yeah, I'm glad.
I'm glad that you got back on TikTok and you just kept going
because I was like, I wonder what's happening with Megan.
(11:12):
I want to see what's going on. And lo and behold, I'm like,
wait, this isn't her. TikTok, what's going on?
Here, you know, yeah, I still get messages from people that
had like saved a ton of my videos.
Like, and they find my new account and they message me
being like I had probably 50 or so of your videos saved for
(11:34):
stuff that I was gonna do, improvements that I was gonna
make to my website or to my socials or whatever.
And now they're all gone. And it's just, it's just like
they're just poof, they're gone.And so it's really, really
interesting. And it's just goes to show you
too that like not everybody seesevery, every post.
Because I personally feel like Ihave been talking about that
(11:56):
loss of that account like since it happened like a lot.
And I feel like I've kind of just been like, you know, just
saying it over and over. But like it just goes to show
you that not everybody sees every post because I still am
getting messages about this and the the account deletion
happened. I think it was May of last year
that was a. Long time ago.
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I don't think I realized how long ago that was.
Dang, girl. Yeah.
But I mean you you brought up a really important point that like
and we've talked about this on, did she really say that before
you have 0 control over your ownsocial media, you have no way of
(12:39):
controlling what happens, but what's the difference between
that and your website? Let's talk about that a little
bit. Yeah, I mean I always think of
social versus website is like social is kind of in a lot of
ways like your entry point to your website.
So it's the way that you get attention to your business and
your website is almost like the second step.
(13:00):
Like it's if you think about it like dating, like social media
is like the first date and then you know your website might be
the second date. Like if they want to get to know
you a little bit more, if they want to learn more about your
services or your products and and you know it really needs to
go like a little bit deeper thanyour socials.
Like they think about like when when you go to a website you
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probably are going to find out more information, maybe the
pricing, maybe look at some testimonials and see how other
people have had an experience when working with you.
So it really needs to go a little bit, a little bit deeper
than just, you know, the surfacelevel of social.
Yeah, and really your specialityis just helping, helping brands
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to brighten up, to get bold and to really direct people where
you want them to go, right? Yeah, I I love this.
This is like the strategy side of website design, which gets me
like so excited honestly. But there's just so many
different, like, design, psychology type things and also
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just marketing strategy that I like to infuse into website
design. Like, for example, one that
always blows people's minds is like you can actually use, you
know, people's eyesight lines tolook at an offer or like it.
It helps to draw attention to a specific place on the page.
And so that's one that people are like, Oh yeah, I've like,
(14:28):
never noticed that, But I always, like, do that.
I'm like, yeah, it's because it's a it's a psychology thing
that we integrate into the website design.
Yeah. So did you go to school for
graphic design? You did.
OK, Yeah. OK, So that really has been a
huge focus for you too. So, OK, so are you.
Whenever you went to school for graphic design, did you plan on
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doing what you're doing now, or was it just something that kind
of fill in your lap? I think I had a vision for it.
It was. So I went to school for media
arts and design. It was basically one of the
first programs at my college, actually that kind of melded
like graphic design with like web design and marketing.
So it was like this like kind ofnewer program where like, you
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know, this is before even like transparent images were
available. Yeah, it's it's been a while.
But yeah, I think I already had like a a vision for, like, you
know, combining these worlds of music and art and figuring out
how I could fit into what was needed in that space.
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And yeah, I just made it work. Yeah, so if you if you had
somebody come to you today and they were like I need, I need
help with like what I'm doing, what would be like your first
tip for them or like what what'sa multiple step tip that you'd
be like this is what you need tofocus on and then this and then
this, what would you do? I mean as far as a website goes,
(15:59):
like your main priority when you're first starting should be
your homepage, like making sure that it's optimized.
You know there's 1000 tips that I could give you on this, but
you know most of your website traffic is going to go to your
homepage. So this is the the page on your
site that you need in absolute tip top shape.
This is something that if the trust is broken there between
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the website visitor and the brand, like that's it.
They're going to bounce. Like if something's not working,
something doesn't look good on mobile.
You know, if a button or something isn't clickable, like
those types of things that are like so easily overlooked.
But it's the kind of thing when you see it on a website, you're
like, oh, like they didn't take the time to kind of spot check
(16:44):
this or this feels like an unprofessional, you know,
company untrustworthy brand, right?
So just taking extra special care with your home page I think
would be the biggest tip. Mm hmm.
Yeah. No, I would absolutely agree.
And So what, Like when you're looking at somebody's home page
and you're like they missed this, what's that one thing that
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you're like, you're missing this.
You need this. Testimonials.
Honestly, social proof is so big.
Like, you know, think about if you were the customer, but put
yourself in their shoes. Like, what are they looking for?
They're looking for proof that you can deliver what you say you
can deliver. So, like, what does that look
like? Your past work and your
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testimonials. Like, what are people actually
saying about not the not only the actual work that you can do
for them, but what do you like to work with?
Like, what do you like as a human being?
Because you're most likely, mostlikely going to be working with
this person for a prolonged period of time, right?
So they want to make sure that it's a good personality fit as
well. Yeah, yeah, you're so right.
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And that's something like I knowwith my own website, before I
started doing Truth Bomb with these two other ladies, it was
like, I knew I needed it, but I was like, it's just going to
take some time and work. It it takes a little while too
to like, I think from a brand perspective, like it can take a
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little while, especially as a personal brand, to really get
comfortable with leaning into who you are.
And I think that especially, like, more inexperienced
entrepreneurs have kind of more of a barrier up when it comes to
like, oh, I I don't want to likeoffend people.
I don't want to push people away.
But like, in reality, the more that you lean into who you are
(18:33):
and your weirdness and your quirks and you know all of that,
like your dream, people are going to be drawn to you because
of that. So it's it's a hard lesson to
learn and it definitely takes practice, like you know, getting
more comfortable with yourself and and your brand, but it's so
worth it in the end. Yeah, yeah.
And you talk about like, leaninginto your weirdness.
(18:55):
I feel like TikTok is all about that.
Oh yeah. Did you notice that when you
first got on, you were like, hey, I can just be me?
Absolutely, yeah. And that's one of the things
that kind of tributed the platform, honestly.
Yeah, I feel like that's true for a lot of people that fall in
love with it, that they're just like, I can just be my weird
self and people are cool with it.
(19:18):
Honestly, Yeah. It's not like the whole like
polished of Instagram because like for me, I was never, I was
never really into Instagram. It was never something for me, I
don't know about you, but like with TikTok, it was like, oh, I
can just can just be. And that's cool.
And nobody's nobody's upset withthat, because everybody else is
(19:39):
just being, too. Yeah, yeah.
But the cultures are definitely very, very different when it per
platform and it it definitely feels way more relaxed,
honestly. Yeah.
What's your least favorite platform?
I'm curious. Probably Twitter.
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Sam. Sam.
Honestly, YouTube is pretty quickly behind that.
Sorry. Sorry to say.
Nope. It's cool.
I have. I have a special place in my
heart for YouTube and I realizedthat there's some the thing with
YouTube is you kind of have to get over the gamer dudes that
are on there. Couldn't hang.
(20:23):
I last year was like my year of like really trying to make my
YouTube work and like really putting a lot of effort into it
and I just couldn't hang with the community there.
Like I like, I I was joking withmy husband the other day about
like you know how how YouTube sends over like that end of year
wrap up or whatever. It's kind of like the the
YouTube wrapped. I was joking with him.
(20:45):
I was like yeah, you got like you know 500 comments this year
and I like jokingly said like yeah 499 of them were negative
like, no that's that's how my been my experience with YouTube
like it it's it's a lot of the the gamer dudes and you know
it's it's been a lot of toxicityover there in my experience.
(21:07):
But I know a lot of people have success with it.
So I mean more power to you. I just couldn't hang.
Yeah, it's it's been funny because I had to, like, pause my
other YouTube stuff whenever we started Truth Bomb marketing
together because it was just like, I can't do all of this.
But then after that, all the right people just came flocking
(21:29):
to me and I was like, well, OK, like I haven't even posted over
there in like a year. I was like, maybe I need to
start posting over there. Yeah, there's something about
that. But.
Yeah, I mean there's there's definitely benefits to it.
I mean the ties with Google and all of that like I see, I know
like as a marketer like the benefits of it.
(21:49):
I just, you know, as a one person operation like I I I just
had to pick and choose like where it was spending my energy.
Yeah, yeah. So let's get back to like the
website stuff, 'cause I know yougot lots of goodness over on
this. So I know that there's so many
places where you can build a website.
(22:10):
And I already know your answer to this, but I want, I want
people to hear this because I feel like this is so incredibly
important. So where if somebody was new and
wanting to build their website and they were just like, I'm
going to do this, and maybe theydidn't even want your help, but
they were like, I'm going to start doing this.
Where would you suggest that they start building their
(22:31):
website? Well, my first question to them
would be what type of business do you have?
Because that is going to impact the answer if you have an
e-commerce business, no matter what, Shopify is the best
option. It's definitely not the easiest
option for e-commerce. It's literally built for that.
(22:53):
There's no other platform in thegame that does it as well as
Spotify or Spotify. Shopify what if I?
Said Shopify the first time you did.
You got it right, You got it I. Always do that.
But if you have a service based business, my current favorite
website platform is show it. And that's because the platform
(23:17):
is completely drag and drop. I have been able to create
website templates for my clientsand so it makes it very, very
plug and play. It also has all of the amazing
SEO capabilities that you need. So it's like this perfect meld
of like design with strategy which I really love.
(23:38):
My website has literally never done better when it comes to
SEO. And so it's like when I switched
over my website a year, probablya year plus ago to show it like
I was just like, this is it for me.
So yeah, I mean, it's it really depends on your situation, what
you were looking for out of a website design, but those are my
(23:58):
two favorites. I also love Squarespace, I love
WordPress, but it really just depends on what you're trying to
do. Yeah, it's true.
And you actually came out of nowhere.
I thought you were going to say WordPress.
So I'm going to have to look more in to show it.
I think recently I was looking at your stuff and I was like,
oh, I think you had, you mentioned that on your website
(24:18):
too, that that's what you offer to your people.
So what drew you to show it besides the drag and drop?
Is it just because it was so simple for people to set up even
for themselves and simple for you, or what?
What was it that you were like? I got to I start doing this and
who told you about it? So I heard about it on TikTok
(24:40):
and I I started digging into it because I mean I'm always
curious about like, you know, website platforms.
And all of that. Like, I'm always like, I need
to. I need to like, do my due
diligence here. And so I started playing around
with it and I was like, oh, like, This is why everybody's,
like, talking about this platform is crazy.
(25:01):
It's just like, I'm so, so much of a designer at heart that it
literally is like infinite design flexibility when it comes
to what you want to do on your website.
So it would really, really easily with no code.
Like, you can make things overlap.
You can drag things into different sections, like, you
can make, you know, different, like sliders and things like
(25:22):
that. Like really really awesome stuff
and it melt like the other part of it is like I have a blog on
my website and so it actually uses WordPress as the back end
of the blog. So.
That's awesome, I say. OK.
I know now every time I tell people that and they're really,
if they love WordPress, they're like, whoa.
(25:43):
Yeah, I might have to look into this for my video marketing
Unicorn stuff. Yeah, so yeah, like, I mean,
because of that, you're also able to leverage all of those
awesome plugins like the WordPress plugins for the
WordPress side of it. So you get like this amazing
essentially like a skinning capability where you can like
(26:06):
skin your website any way that you want and design it any way
that you want. And it also uses WordPress.
So you get all of those amazing SEO benefits.
You can use the plugins like it's.
It's really just like the perfect marriage of like design
and functionality. I'm gonna have to check this
out. Like I am like stalled right
(26:26):
now. Holy crap, Because like, I've
always been a WordPress baby, right?
But the thing with WordPress is it can be complicated,
especially if you're new. So and I've been, I've been
using WordPress for like 6 yearsthough.
So for me it was like, OK, I cando this.
I don't love it 'cause it's not as like simple as what you just
(26:51):
said. So now I'm like I might need to
check this out. Literally, it's like the best
platform that I've used in all of my my years of website
design. It makes it.
The other thing that I love about it too is like, it makes
it super easy for I'm. I'm like a really big advocate
for people to be able to update their websites, like once
(27:12):
they're complete. And this platform makes it so
very easy because everything's drag and drop.
Like you literally can just likemove it over wherever you want
and it's just boom, it's done. And so, yeah, just love it all
the way around. Yeah, and as far as like,
setting up your domain and all of that, Simple too.
Yeah. OK, yeah, I'm.
(27:34):
I'm sold. I'm excited.
I'm glad you told talked about this because I'm like, I'm going
to have to check this out because I had been looking for
something that could make my life easier for my video
marketing Unicorn. Since it's not been my main
focus for a while. And I knew I needed to update my
website for so long when I was like, oh, I don't want to
(27:54):
because it's going to take me a while.
So I will. I will drop you my affiliate
link. You can get a month a month for
free. I love that.
I absolutely love that. So we'll, we'll have you drop
your affiliate link here too. So that way we can.
Yeah. So anyways, so one last one last
(28:16):
question is what would be your biggest piece of advice for any
female entrepreneur that was looking to start their business
and start let's let's focus on the website, like what would be
your biggest piece of advice that you're like is is go time
like what would you say? There's a lot of competition out
(28:38):
there. I don't really believe in like
competitors per SE, but like, when you look at it kind of
objectively, like there's a lot of, there's gonna be a lot of
other people that do what you do.
And so that is why it's so important to be bold, stand out,
you know, figure out how you're doing things differently and
really put yourself in your own category, right.
(28:59):
And so this is one of the thingsthat, like, I always talk about
in my marketing. I always talk about like how,
how are you doing things differently?
Like, yeah, everybody can then build websites, but how are you
doing it? Or yeah, everybody is a
photographer. Like everybody's doing
photography, but how are you making it a little bit more
special for your clients? Like, what are the things that
you're doing that go above and beyond?
(29:21):
And those are the types of folksthat I really like to work with
too. The the people that really push
the envelope and like, you know,really kind of push it to the
limits of what is possible within their niche.
But yeah, I would just say figuring that out and when it
comes to your website design andcommunicating that clearly is
going to be so key when it comesto when people come to make a
(29:43):
purchase decision, like if it's very, very clear why your
service is different, pricing becomes less of a thing because
you're the only one that is doing it the way that you're
doing it. Yeah, you're so right.
And like, that's the thing that we've really focused on with
Truth Bomb marketing is we're like, we want to, we want to
create more female entrepreneur.Well, create more female
(30:06):
millionaires than ever before. Because we looked at the stats
of how many male millionaires there were in the
entrepreneurial space space compared to the females.
And we were kind of like, yeah, that doesn't make any sense.
So totally spot on with what youjust said.
Like, look for the, the space where you can get in and really
(30:26):
shine. Like, I've heard this before and
you've probably heard this before.
The riches are in the niches. Like, yeah, it's that's really
what it's about. If you're trying to serve
everyone, you're serving no one at the end of the day.
So yeah, so good. I'm so glad that we got to chat,
like, this was really fun and I'm really excited to, honestly,
(30:48):
I'm excited to check out show ita little bit more.
So I know that you also have other freebies too.
So let everyone know like first of all, where we can get your
freebie, tell us like where we can like find your show it, all
of that. Like where can we go and what
social media platforms and your website and everything.
(31:09):
So let us know. Okay, so my website is Megan
gersh.com. It's MEGANGERS ch.com and
there's a resources page there where you can grab all of my
freebies. I have a free website checklist.
There's some other goodies on there as well, but you can find
me on socials. My my handles are a little all
(31:32):
over the place just because of my account deletion last year.
But you can find me on TikTok atat Megan dot Gersh or on
Instagram at Megan Gersh. All one word and yeah, would
love to hear from you. Yeah, I'm so glad we got to
connect. So really like it.
You're just you're just truly like one of my favorite people
(31:53):
on social media. Because you just really have oh
really cool vibe. So guys, if you haven't checked
her out, you need to go check her out right now.
She is phenomenal. She can help your brand stand
out, your messaging stand out. And so with that I guess we can
call this a wrap. So until next time can't wait to
(32:15):
connect with everyone on did shereally say that?
And we'll see you inside the Truth Bomb Academy.
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