From Passion to Wealth: Your Guide to Equal Energy Exchange

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Well, welcome to this episode ofDid.
She really say? That I am your host, Katrina van
Atkusen, and I'm excited to havethis conversation with Laurie
Palm today. And as you know us as women
entrepreneurs, we have so much going on in our lives all the
time. The create her planner really
allows for you to for the first time to experience time through
the female flow. And what's really fascinating is

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as our guest Laurie is here, you're going to understand how
your passion, which you know, ladies is a word I love in
reference to women because our passions drive us and when we
talk about core passions, this really is something that was a
game changer. And when I started talking to
Lori, I was like, you have got to be on our podcast.
Did she really say that? Because this conversation is

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going to be eye opening. Now, who is Lori?
Well, she's the CEO of this amazing company called Core
Passions. Now, she's been a lifelong
entrepreneur. She is an expert.
She's what I call a modern day muse.
And honestly, I think more women, you need to embrace this
title because that's truly who you are.
You are muses in the world now. She did something that goes

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against the traditional norm. She actually went after your
core passions. How many of you have taken so
many self-assessment tests out there?
You've done the strength finders, the disk, blah blah
blah. I think I've taken them all. 16
personalities. Good Lord, the list could go on.
This, as Lori's about to share with us, is vastly different.
As an entrepreneur and groundbreaking businesswoman,

(01:32):
she's she could always see what was unseen in business
opportunities, right? She could always see what others
couldn't see. Her diverse background in
business, including earning degrees in social work and
achieving A7A Series 7 license and financial services makes her
very unique. Not only that, one tidbit she

(01:52):
told me that I think it's fascinating is that she's a
trumpet player and a rock band. You know what, Lori?
I'm going to stop highlighting you and really just dive in to
the meat of this conversation. So welcome to our podcast.
Did she really say that? Lori, it's an honor to have you
here. Oh, great.
Well, I am very excited to talk anything around passion.
Of course I love to talk about. So yeah, you know that title and

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it is one of my titles modern day Muse.
I have been using that title forover 20 years and I think Oh
yeah, it's and global passion expert.
Those two are, are my besides CEO and and I think that, you
know, people have said to me, well, you can't say that in a

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business setting. I said yes, that is who I am and
it's what I do. It's my some of my greatest
gifts and strengths are in that title.
And and I think for anybody out there, when we believe who we
are and that's what the core passion assessment does.

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We created an assessment, as yousaid, that measures the energy
and the driving force behind allyour decisions, your actions,
your behaviors. And it always has.
And when we created the assessment over in 2003.
So it's 22 years old and I think, you know, it was way

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ahead of its time, as all those things are, that the world would
be ready for it. Well, it wasn't quite ready for
it, but it definitely is now. And when you look at who are
you? Because to me, when you know who
you are, you know what to do andyou get results.
So we focus on who are you and what do you want to accomplish

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and where are you going? And I think that and how are you
going to get there and how do you use these strengths of who
you are. These gifts, we call them gifts
to get there. And of course, your greatest
gift is also your greatest challenge.
And when you think of it from anenergy standpoint, so the thing

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that makes you so good at what you do when you're out of
balance, we call it a challenge.It's not good or bad or right or
wrong. It's just out of balance energy.
And that's what brings you down South, understand.
And sometimes those connections,the greatest gift and the
greatest challenge, you don't know that they're connected.

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And that's what our assessment does.
It shows you how those are connected.
So I'm going to pause right herebecause I think there's a lot
you just said that we're going to unpack.
So First off, I'm going to head back to the the the like the the
modern day muse and your understanding of this, because I
I've actually hired a business muse when I had one of my

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biggest aha breakthroughs. Like it was the one that really
set the course for create her and everything we've done from
the planner to the reset to all of it, right?
And then she felt like she couldn't get ground with it.
So I love that you say that because I feel like sometimes as
a woman, we do feel as ourselves, as a muse.

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We do find ourselves leading from our true authentic self
with the language that expresseswho we are as women has been
kind of like the word muse has been kind of turned into maybe
an inappropriate word or a word that is so mystical that it
doesn't have grounding in reality.
And I, what I'm, I want to just kind of touch up on with my

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listeners here in our audience is that this is an awesome word.
And the fact that Lori has embraced it for 20 years, I'm
telling you right now, this is brilliant, honestly.
Yes, and and it's I call, I say modern day muse.
So it's you know, that's the that's the title.
And I think, you know, wasn't until for me when I understood

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what what was my gift? What was I really good at?
My sister who's ACPA. It's all about the numbers.
You know, she used to say when people would ask her what I did,
and I had my own business and I had the speaker's Bureau and I,
I was doing all this stuff and she would say, you know, I don't
really know what she does. She just goes out to lunch all
the time. And so, but what I discovered is

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when I would go out to lunch with people and we'd start
talking, we'd be talking business and different things.
And by the time lunch was done, they're all inspired to start
new things and do this. And I thought, what just
happened, I mean, and then when I, yeah, when I could put words
to that, then you can charge forit.

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No, I mean, I'm going to stop you there because that is so
true. And I want because even I
struggled with that, to be honest, Lori, it's like I had a
hard time putting together like words for what I do and who I am
and the that kind of like the language for this.
So there is that sense that I think as women, we're kind of
trying to find our language again.
So I love that you're saying like I'm the modern day muse.
I inspire, I create and I hope you find your passion and use

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that in the world, right? Like really clearly define it.
And help you make money. And make money you'd.
Feel called to do and so now my sister said after that she said,
you know, if you can make money being amused, anybody can make
money doing anything because andit's it's the belief and
confidence in yourself and creating yours now isn't your

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title, if I remember right, chef.
It is so. I was a chef at Disney for a
little over 13 years and I retired but still a crary that
creative system, fun food play into everything I do.
Yes. See, you wouldn't think that

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would tie into what you do, but it does and you're owning that.
It's, it's, it's part of who youare.
And I think when we can come up with that language of who we are
to me and and know it and embrace it, that's the key to
moving forward with your business.

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Yeah, I think this, there's a skill set that you start to
develop and I think innately as women, Lori, and I'd love to
hear like your kind of thoughts around.
I think as women we we innately like we feel things, but
necessarily giving them words doesn't always.
Like it's hard as a woman to kind of explain what we're
feeling. The intuition it it doesn't have

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like a true language yet. Would you agree with that?
Yes and no. Cool, because that's a big piece
of what the core passion assessment does is give you a
language for all these things ofwhy you do what you do.
And you know, the same things keep happening over and over in

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our life. And it's like, how did this
happen again, especially when you're in the challenge and when
when you can put words to what'shappening.
I mean, I've had, you know, who really loves the assessment when
women of course love it, but men, engineers and IT people,

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they're not very good communicators, Sara Lee.
And this gives them a language. And when you start to use these
kinds of words in your LinkedIn profile, in your bio, all of a
sudden it's about who you are, not just what you do.
And so we give you a lot of words about what drives you and

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who you are. So, but it is it's, it's
difficult to put those words andthen to own the words.
That's that's tricky part too. So how?
Did you come up with core passion?
Like what was what sparked that?Well, I OK, ready for a little
story. I, I, I was doing this.

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I had a speakers Bureau. This was back a long time ago.
And so I would help people just what I do now.
Look at, I always said we were looking for what are the unique
words of wisdom that you have that nobody else has in exactly
the way that you do? And of course, that's what you
market, what makes you unique. And so I would do this and it

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would take hours to figure, you know, to pull it out of people.
Well, then somebody came into mylife and her name is Lori as
well. And my middle name is Lee and
her middle name is Lee, but it'sspelled differently.
So anyway, kind of a real, you know, karmic thing.
And she said to me she was doingsome work with me and she said,

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you know, we can duplicate you. And I said, no, you can't my all
about uniqueness. You can't duplicate me.
And she said, well, of course wecan't duplicate you, but we can
duplicate your process. I didn't even know I had a
process. I just, you know, I did what I
did. That was that musing part.

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But once I saw that, yes, we didhave a process and we used the
then and she helped and she is still with us today in terms of
my, my web master, my guru of all things technology, because
we put this online in the very beginning and that was nobody

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was doing that. You're way ahead of your curve
in 2003. You're you were before Facebook,
you're before any of this happened.
So yeah, you are pioneering in the.
Internet and I and I can tell you that technology is a black
hole. It's.
Been, it's been, we have not. So we use the top, a top
methodologist. Those are the people who create

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assessments to create the assessment.
And I just gave her all this stuff, all these words and she
created the assessment. Now when you create an
assessment, apparently you create it and then you they test
it and then they make changes and it takes a long time.

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This came out-of-the-box, valid and reliable right
out-of-the-box. Wow, that doesn't happen.
It doesn't more core. Words, core energy, I call it
energy. It didn't and it is it is
energy. It's measuring it's measuring

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the frequency of your inner spirit.
That's what it's measuring and it's giving you words for who
you are and why you do what you do and, and all of that stuff.
And it has a graph in numbers. That's why I can bring it into
corporate because if I didn't have that, you know, but when
you can measure it and that's what it does and it and it

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works. And so that's how we came to to
get the assessment. Sorry, that was kind of a long
story. No, it's a perfect story because
I think, you know, as women is the audience is listening to us.
They're they're they've got ideas running through their
heads. They want to know how it's put
together. And a lot of us, especially

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women, we are looking for language.
We are looking for our passions.We, that aligns, I think in a
lot of ways for US women is because we are so inundated with
so much masculine language that sometimes passion, it feels like
we're, we, we need permission toaccept passion into our life,
accept desire into our life and to receive that.

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So I love that you come from thepassion.
I love that you're bringing in words that help people to really
articulate who they are at theircore because these are their
core passion. So how many core passions are
there in the assessment? We have, we call them the core
passion codes. There's 12 and we all have all

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12 inside of us, but the top, wecall it the top five, five or
six are your strong drivers. That's where your greatest gifts
and your greatest challenges are.
And so understanding that and understanding why you do what
you do is so key because we lookat other people and we think

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they're doing things for the same reason we are.
Looks like we're all doing that.I, I use the example of moving
furniture. Looks like we're all just moving
furniture. And yet if you're core passion,
code is service. Let's start with partnership.
That's one of my top ones. And I move the furniture, move

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things because the energy isn't right.
Feng shui, the flow isn't right.Just looks like I'm moving
things. But that's why I move things.
Somebody who is high in form, they move thing, they move the
furniture, they get it in the exact right spot and it never
moves again because they're getting it perfect.

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Somebody who's high in service, like my sister, she moves the
furniture when somebody asks herto help.
That's when you'll see it all looks like we're just moving the
furniture. But when you understand why
you're doing what you do and that's what the core passion
helps you understand why you do what you do.

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And I think that that is key a particularly in business to know
why am I feeling called to do this?
And you know the word passion. So when we started this, this
was 2003 and that's when we created the assessment.

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And at that time, I was in a women's national women's
business group. And, and you know, they were all
really, there were women who made a lot of money, had big
businesses, and I had my little business and I would say what I
did. And they were all, oh, that's

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really nice. The pat on the head, you know.
Then in 2006, Stephen Covey cameout with the 8th Habit.
He started talking about passionin business.
I went out to Washington, DC that year, first in the spring
meeting. All these people, they were

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just, you know, they were nice, they liked me, but there was,
there was no business there. By the fall, when that book came
out, it was like a switch turnedeverybody and I wasn't saying
anything different, but everybody wanted to know more.
They were all interested. It was like, you know, the 100th

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monkey concept. All of a sudden everybody wanted
to know about passion and business.
And, and so the what passion meant shifted.
Yes, and, and I, you know, that was, it was an amazing time to
to feel the difference in six months from, you know, what had

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happened. So I, I agree passion.
Now everybody's talking about passion and purpose in business.
Well, not everybody, but a lot of people, and women
particularly, they're looking for that.
They more so I would say I hear a lot of it from women in all my
interviews and my conversations.Passion is a big one for women
and also in the younger generation, I would say those in

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their 20s to about late early 30s, I'm definitely hearing it
from those women also. They're like, I just want to
feel it's like something I'm passionate about.
I want to have something that lights me up, that inspires me,
or usually the language that's being used.
They don't want just the job, they don't want just the money.
They want something that that brings them joy in what they're

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doing. And so it's really interesting,
I think, when you talk about passion.
And I do remember, because I remember the seven habits of
highly successful people. And then I do remember there was
the revision of the 8th habit and I was like, OK, and that
when you talk about, you know, my time at Disney, I had started
to shift like I was reading those books and I wasn't reading

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food trending books. So I knew at some point this was
my my shift in my break, right? Well, I was becoming more
fascinated with Stephen Covey when I walked into the kitchen
and I said, Zig Ziglar passed today and everybody in the
office in kitchen looked at me and said, who?
And I was like, Oh my gosh, I am.
This is no longer like my world,right?

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Because people that were inspiring me were not even on
the radar of those that I was working with in the kitchen.
So I was like, you know, that that's when I decide.
That's when I discovered that, yes, I had been intrigued by the
kitchen, but my passion lay elsewhere, right?
And I think that's that part of the journey.
So I do have a question for you.We're kind of right here in the

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middle of our conversation. So part of this podcast is we
make pretty bold statements. I mean, did she really say that?
Lori is kind of a a moment there?
So I want to ask you, at any time having talked to a client
or a business, did you ever get a reaction?
You said something to them and they looked at you and were

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like, did she just really say that?
Yes, that's I think, I think yes, especially in the earlier
years, you know, not so much nowwhen I'm talking about passion
or energy, the energy that drives you when we measure it.

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And I think that, you know, whenI'm doing training, I actually
bring divining rods. Do you know what they are?
Yes, I know what a divining rod is.
I love those. And I measure the energy of
people because I show them what's the energy that you're
that you're putting out and, andwhat's the energy you're

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bringing into the workplace. And so I think that divining
rods bringing, you know, saying we're going to measure your
energy and they're like. You're going to do what's?
Exactly. And and they're, they're blown
away. They're blown away every single

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time when I show them. And I, I use somebody out of the
audience and, and have them, I do it three different times and
show them what happens and they're like, and then I, I let
them try it. You know, I bring several
divining rods and I'll let people try it.

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In fact, I was at an event abouta couple of months ago and I had
spoken at this event a few months before that, and I had
several people come up to me andsay I went online and I bought
some divining rods. And my family, we're just having
such. We're really understanding
what's happening. And I thought, wow, you wouldn't

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have thought that would happen. Well, you wouldn't just think
that divining rods being in the presence of a corporate meeting
or an event would be so well accepted.
I mean, in some respects, Lori, you're setting a new presence,
presidents precedence around what's possible when you bring
in your core desires, when you're actually able to measure

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energy. And then you're looking at how
does that affect, you know, the workspace, you yourself, how
you're, you work with your family, how you've feel about
yourself in, in every aspect of your business and in your life.
And I'm going to touch upon this, Laura, because I know this
was one of the things that you and I are both highly passionate
about. You know, we can talk business

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and helping women make money andget leads and make sales and
understand themselves. But the one thing that I see
that really is, is the next conversation is how to build
wealth. There's one thing to make money,
but it's another thing to start having a wealth building
strategy behind us as women doing the heavy lifting and

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understanding that the business might be the forefront, but it's
nothing more than the top of a funnel.
Just in marketing. It's the top of the funnel for a
wealth building strategy. So let's talk a little bit about
money here, because money is energy too.
Absolutely. I love to talk about money.
I think, I think you and I talked about this when we, we

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had our conversation, our initial conversation about I
have a program called a love affair with money, creating a
love affair with money. And I think that's so key, just
as you said, and, and allowing women to believe that they can

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make money and they can accept it and they can make a lot of
money. And I hear that a lot.
And so when I look at it from the the standpoint of the court
passion codes like somebody who is high in service, they just
want to give and give and give and they have a really hard time
charging. Yes.

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And it's and then even if they do charge, can they accept it?
Yeah, the. Money comes in and then it has a
tendency to go right back out again.
I have a few people that do that.
Yes. And and so the challenges with
money can be either maybe you can make a lot of money, but you

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can't let it go. You can't, you can't spend it.
Or like you said, it comes in and it goes right out because we
can't. We're not feeling like we
deserve to keep it. Oh, that landed somebody here in
the audience heard that one. How many of you have said, oh, I
don't deserve that type of money, that type of wealth, I'm

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unworthy of it. How many of you women have heard
that? Even a couple of my gentlemen.
I know you're listening. And I think I, I think that
when, oh, I just lost my train of thought.
So I think it'll come. Back yes, so and it and it's
because we aren't, we feel undeserving.

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The money's important, but theirlove affair with money.
Like I even love the language you use for that, your love
affair with money. And I have, I have a great
exercise called First Date with Money.
And it really it's, it's, it's amazing and it hits you in the

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heart. I remember the first time we
ever did it with a, a group of business people and I had them,
I said, OK, now you've been on. I don't even know what what are
the things where you meet somebody online?
I I don't. Know, oh, the dating app world
yes yeah anyway, whatever yeah. And I said.
OK, so you're going to meet themin person now for the first

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time. So we're going to set the stage.
And I even I had little made little tags of $100 bills.
So one person was money and thenthe other person was who they
are. And then I had a list of
questions and I mean, people gotinto it emotionally.
It's like, so one of the questions that money asks is so

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why do you want to be with me? I mean, these are questions that
you would ask not too deep, but you know, on a first date and
but it's about your relationshipwith money.
And I believe that it is a relationship with money.
And you know, are you having coffee with your money?

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Are you having wine with your money?
Are you, do you understand your money?
Do you understand the numbers? Because if you don't, which most
people don't, they're pulling a number out of the air for what
they're going to charge, but it doesn't have any relationship or
meaning. And so it's really hard for them
to to then. Receive it even the number.

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So then they. Can't really.
Sell it because they don't really believe it, but they
don't know what the right numberis.
When you get the right number, you can sell it.
Oh yeah, it's not even a brainer.
You're like, that's easy that I've had that.
It's shocking to me, to be honest, because I've had moments
where I have been able to, you know, sell $25,000 coaching

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programs, $50,000 coaching programs.
And the ask for it was simple because you know what the what
it is that you're offering. You understand the relationship
that it has for that person and you understand the deliberately
of what it's going to do to change their life.
And I think that for me was the game changer.
It stopped becoming about me andit became more about this isn't

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an ask for me. This is an ask for
transformation and are they willing to receive it?
Because the money is the exchange of saying yes, I'm
ready to receive this transformation in my life.
Yes, and I think 3 words that I always tell people to think
about equal energy exchange. Agree.

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If it's not, and that's you justdescribed it, that was an equal,
you know, whatever it is, it's an equal energy exchange.
And people who are high in service or compassion, they
think, well, this is a gift I have.
I can't charge for it. But The thing is, you're giving

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it. You're working with somebody.
And if they don't, if, if they can't, if you, they can't give
you anything in return or you can't accept it and receive it,
they can't also receive what you're giving them because there
has to be an equal energy exchange in every relationship.
Would you agree with that? I would 100% agree and I what

(28:03):
came to mind as you were saying that is I've always been a push
back against the whole free mentality cause free is a money
exchange is 0 for zero. So while you might have put an
effort to create a lead magnet or something like that, that
zero that that energy that you put into it to exchange it for
zero it, it doesn't always feel good.

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So I think that's why sometimes we don't value a free product.
We don't value and something is just given to us without like an
emotional connection. I look back throughout my life
and the things that mean the most to me have almost no value,
but they have an emotional connection, which is that again,
that energy piece, that passion piece behind it.

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So yeah, I think as women in business, the one thing I
honestly hear all of the time, Lori, I don't know what to
charge for my services. I'm unclear of, of, you know,
what I'm really bringing to the market.
I have high passion. I have multiple things I want to
do. Can I do it all?

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And I think the answer at the end of the day is that you can
achieve, you can accomplish whatever you choose to focus on.
And I think it starts with understanding your core
passions, which is why I say getLaurie's product.
Yes, yeah, that's where the. Website go to.
The website for fashion.com likelet's, let's start.

(29:29):
Movement, 21 page report and a lot of videos with me talking
and explaining everything and yeah, it's that.
And So what you were just sayingabout the money and what do I
charge? That's why it's so important to
have a relationship with money and with the numbers.

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That's when I say when you sit down with your numbers, make it
like you're, you're having a conversation with your numbers,
you know, because that's what itis.
And, and you're having a relationship and, and I, I say
have a love affair because the more you love, the more you're
going to bring in and love and money are the same energy.

(30:12):
Say that again. I think the one everyone, you
need to hear this again. Lori, please say that again.
Love and money have the same energy, and so if you look at
the relationships in life and your relationship to money,
they're probably going to be very similar.

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Not always, but but love and money are the same relationship,
same energy. I believe it.
And I know it. And when you start even to love
yourself and you start giving itout of love, and you take care
of self first, you'd be shocked how easy it is to receive money
into your life. And.
When you're lit up around your passions, it changes everything

(30:54):
yet again. So we are wrapping this up.
Lori. I feel like this time has just
flown by. I know I've enjoyed this fun.
Yes, but this is a teaser, right?
So all my listeners out there for our audience and for Did she
really say that? This is Lori.
She has been around in building the core passion since 2003.

(31:15):
This means that she's vested in this.
You want to talk about committedto a project, committed to
changing the world. It's committed to making a
difference. You're, you're hearing this from
the lawyer right now, right? And this is where I invite you
in. You, all of you women are
looking for a different way to excuse me, bringing your team
members understand who you're working with.

(31:37):
Why not bring on a client and have them take a core passion
assessment, understand how you're going to serve them in a
way that they need to hear it, and match that energy with them?
Would you agree, Lori? Absolutely, absolutely.
It's a game changer. Yeah.
So if you're. Doing a high ticket coaching if
you're doing anything in business you we are always
looking to better understand andserve so core passion start one

(32:03):
and then I will tell you as a business owner or ladies, I am
sitting here I'm now drooling. I'm going to have to follow up
with this Lori. I want the love affair with my
money course. So after this, I'm heading over
there because I think that this is, again, it's a tool for me
and I can feel literally feel over here the the type of
conversations and what we need to be talking with each other as

(32:27):
women. I love working with women.
I love having this conversation.I love working and having those
private groups. I host retreats and I think this
would be a great conversation tobring in.
Is that first thing, how to dateyour money?
So I might even have to bring you in and have you just train
on that conversation, so. Absolutely, absolutely that.
Could be fun. All right.
Well, thank you again, Lori, foryour time.

(32:47):
Any last words of wisdoms to ouraudience and our listeners
around core Passion and why thisis such an integral piece they
need to have in their lives? Well, I, I think it's essential
to understand who you are and and when you understand who you
are, you will know what to do and you're going to get the

(33:08):
results that you want. So it all starts with knowing
who you are. And the last words I'll leave
with you is that you know, Lori mentioned that their greatest
strengths or greatest gifts could also be your greatest
challenges. And in the world of yin and
Yang, the balance of both and understanding that energy within
you is going to become is so important as you're growing as a

(33:31):
female leader in your business, in your company.
This is where I invite you to really step into who you are.
Grab hold of the core passions, get to know Lori, go take this
assessment, get your 21 page report, and let's have some fun.
Let's continue this dialogue. And I am so thankful for you,
Lori, and what you've created. Continue to push the needle,

(33:52):
continue to move forward. I know you've got speaking
engagements that are coming up. What's next for Core Passion
before we sign off today? Well, one of the things that I'm
really exploring, we have some other apps that go with the
tools and I think that one of them is called code talking.
How do we talk to each other? How do you talk to somebody
who's who is not have the same drivers that you do?

(34:15):
But the other thing that I'm really exploring right now is
how do we, what's our relationship with AI?
And what I'm reading right now is we have to learn to
collaborate with AI and you haveto ask a good question if you're
going to get any kind of a good answer from AI.

(34:36):
And so this is, this is some newareas that I'm exploring with
core passion is and, and we're actually creating our own AI
through our technology stuff. But I think that that's going to
be key for all of us to understand that whole relation,
another relationship. It is and it is a relationship

(34:58):
and there and you're absolutely right, we could totally dive
into this on another episode of Did she really say that?
Because that is going to be I think our future series that
we're going to bring in the nextseason is really diving into the
world of AI, how it affects us as women in business.
So again, Lori, thank you so much again to my audience and
listeners down in the show notesor all the ways you can connect

(35:19):
with Lori, some more informationabout her, her website, how to
get the access to the assessment, everything you need,
definitely connect with her. So thank you again for all my
listeners. If you're enjoying their
podcast, you know what to do, give it a five star rating.
Comment below. Let Lori know that you love her
because we want this to be an engaging part of your day.
With that, thank you for joiningus here on Did she really say

(35:42):
that? And we'll see you on the next
episode. Thank you.
Bye.

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