October 31, 2025 • 42 mins
Episode Summary
In this extraordinary episode of Did She Really Say That?, host Katrina van Oudheusden welcomes the brilliant Jen Urezzio, a master intuitive and the creator of Soul Language. Together, they embark on a captivating exploration of soul languages, intuitive connections, and the essence of spiritual alignment. Join Katrina and Jen for a conversation filled with enlightening insights, empowering strategies, and a touch of humor.
Key Discussion Points
Introduction to Soul Language: Jen Urezzio shares the inspiration behind creating Soul Language, explaining its purpose and transformative power. She discusses the three core energies of the soul that she identifies to help people align with their true selves.
Intuition and Personal Growth: Jen offers insights into understanding and harnessing one's intuition, debunking common misconceptions, and providing practical advice for listening to your inner guidance.
Navigating Spirituality: Katrina and Jen discuss the challenges and resistance faced when embracing spiritual practices and soulful connections, especially for women. They encourage listeners to move beyond societal labels and judgments.
Business and Spirituality: The episode delves into how soul language and spiritual awareness can be integrated into business practices, emphasizing the importance of authenticity and alignment in professional growth.
Live Quiz and Analysis: Katrina takes Jen’s quiz live on air to discover her dominant energy leak. Jen provides guidance on closing energy gaps, offering actionable insights based on the quiz results.
Guest Bio
Jen Urezzio is a master intuitive and pioneering creator of Soul Language, a paradigm that helps individuals connect deeply with their soul’s purpose. As a dynamic communicator, Jen empowers her clients to align their energy with their true essence, facilitating quantum leaps in personal and professional realms. Her work integrates spirituality with practicality, offering a unique lens on self-discovery and empowerment.
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About Your Host: Katrina van Oudheusden
Former Chef at Walt Disney World® Resort, Restaurateur, Speaker, and CEO of Truth Bomb Marketing. Katrina is a sought-after consultant for small business growth among female entrepreneurs.
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(00:02):
Well, welcome back to this episode of Did she really say
that? And you're going to say you're
going to hear this a lot in yourhead as we have this
conversation today with Jenniferbecause I love what she teaches
around the soulful language and it just everything who she is,
right? And this is going to be the soul
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language you wish you had known earlier.
And you like me, you know how much I'm passionate around
finding your purpose, aligning your purpose and bringing it all
centered into a productivity tool, which is why I love the
create hair planner that we've created for women because what
Jennifer talks about is an alignment with this, right?
How do you track your soul energy if you have no idea and
(00:43):
there's no tools out there to doit?
So I brought Jen on because you need to hear this and I will
tell you I've already taken the quiz.
We're gonna talk about that alsobecause that is her giveaway at
the end of this episode. So who is Jennifer?
She's a soul whisperer and it's true.
She is a no BS incinerator. She is a divine code breaker who
(01:07):
moonlights as an intuitive strategist but secretly operates
as an interdimensional translator for your soul's
deepest truth. Deep breath right there.
That in right. She didn't just find or found
soul language, she channeled an entire spiritual dialect from
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the parent para mortals of the divine and turned it into a
system that makes. Your therapist.
Weep and your higher self applaud.
She's the one who the angels call when they need a
communication upgrade. So yes, imagine if Carl Jung and
Joan of Arc had a love Charles raised by Oracle whales.
(01:51):
And. Training into intuitive jitsu by
the cosmic monks. That.
That's Jennifer. OK, She doesn't do it.
Gentle nudges. It's not her thing.
I can tell you that straight up.She throws spiritual lightning
bolts wrapped in the velvet, right?
She'll read your energetic mail,highlight the part so that
(02:13):
you've been avoiding ladies, we've been avoiding a lot, and
hand you a blueprint to sovereignty with the side of Get
over yourself right now. Bam, right?
She can do. She can decode your divine
operating system in less time than it takes to your ego to
panic her clients. Her clients don't just transform
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ladies. They quantum leap into
unapologetic alignment, droppingtheir karmic baggage at the curb
and finally stop asking the universe for permission.
And that is who she is. She's here to wake you the fuck
up, to be honest. And I love this conversation.
I love that you use the F bomb. I love it.
(02:55):
Well, yeah, come on. Like you're talking soul
alignment, Jennifer, if anybody I know, your soul alignment is
being, you know who you are, whatever pops out of your mouth,
if it's a swear word, great. If it's a word that you're
offended by, great. Because in some respects, soul
language is about triggering yourself.
(03:17):
So it's. About coming back home to who
you are and letting go of all ofthe things you've been told or
the experiences that you have. And, and I love to throw around
the F bombs. I mean, I have a free guide
called That's not your fucking purpose.
Like, I get it. Like there's so many myths
around who we are or who we're told that we are that people can
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either use it as a crutch or start to kind of really decode
who they are by listening to them Internet themselves
internally rather than than having all the external
metaphysical mumbo jumbo and. I feel like that's a lot of what
we're dealing with and I'm not bashing anything that's out
there, but there's so much junk around self development,
(04:03):
personality assessments, this and that.
There is The Who you are like, there's the human design and all
it like. I feel like it's.
Did you see my eye roll? Yeah, I saw your eye roll.
Right. And all this stuff.
It's like they're trying to still put you in a box and
you're letting them say that this is defining who you are
when I truly believe in reality,Jen, that it might be a moment
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of who you were. Yeah.
But you don't stay there and people think they stay there.
Like Oh my God. And when I love let's.
Talk about that. I know what I love about some
languages is the definitions areone or two pages, not 27.
No. And you once you had your soul
language identified, you don't need someone to tell you what
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house your Leo is or what node or how.
I mean, I've had I listen, I've had my human design that done a
bunch of times and I'm like, what?
Why is it like, why is it so confusing?
And why do I need a translator? And listen, if it works for you,
great. But what I notice is, is that
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then people don't go inward for the answer, right?
And that becomes a very dangerous slope because you're
handing over your power, your essential nature, how you choose
to make decisions, your gifts tosomething or someone else.
And that doesn't create what youwant to create.
(05:34):
It creates stagnation and pain and suffering and all those
things that keep us in that kindof trying to make a round box
square in a square box round. Yeah.
And it's so sad because I think so many high achieving women,
they get stuck in that too. Yeah, they see that and they're
like, this is exactly who I am. I'm like, yeah, but you're
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evolving that you can't stay there.
You're not that design all the time.
And they try to say, well, it's from the moment you're born on
this cosmic Earth and everythingelse they said, and that is why
you're here, is to evolve from what you came down as and who
you are as a being. That's not the ultimate end
game, yeah. And and that's also why I love
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soul language because it's a living breathing paradigm.
Like the definitions have evolved.
For example, there's a a how so the categories are mission, how
you'll be known here and then your soulful personality.
So there's a how you'll be knownhere.
It's called the axiom of translation called hero.
And a couple years ago, one of the practitioners came to me and
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go, I think that this should be hero and heroine.
And I went, oh, my God. Yeah, we've evolved.
We're coming more into that balance of sacred feminine,
sacred masculine. So yes.
So I updated the the definitions.
And then I got to send that out to all the heroes and explain
(07:01):
why the definition was evolved. And their comments were like,
yeah, totally. I get that.
Like they could feel it in theirbones, right?
And that's what you need. You need systems that are going
to be a resource or tool to helpyou put into evolution.
Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you.
No, you're finished the sentence.
That's so true. It is to be into evolution.
(07:23):
So which leads to the question, why is being connected to your
soul so important? I think when we're disconnected
or and we're always connected, it's whether we feel connected
or not. But when we feel disconnected,
we make decisions based out of pain and programming.
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We make decisions in what we think is the greatest good of
all. We make a decision based on
feeling not safe, feeling unheard, feeling unseen.
And we've all seen the impact inthe effects of that, right?
And how that results not only insuffering in our individual
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lives, but extended out into thecommunity, the world's, right?
So when we make a decision basedon a knowing soul, guidance, the
truth with a big T, we're doing that in the greatest good of
all, whether everyone realizes it or not.
And your soul knows so much morethan you, your little tiny
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brain, could ever possibly know.And yes.
Right, it's ever expanding. Your soul is.
Ever expanding well, in reality,Katrina, the the amount of soul
that are in our bodies is like ashot glass right.
So when you let go of fear and programming, there's more soul
that can come in and be embodiedand the more you listen right,
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the more you have this deep sense of knowing that you're
safe supported and provided for and listen.
It's a practice and sometimes I'm really great at it and
sometimes I right and it's OK right it's OK right My best
friend's kid he's now but he gotinto it's a long story, but he
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got into a fight at a birthday party.
I think he was like 6 and he thekid kept needling him needling
him needling him and finally he just went you want me to go WWE
on you? It was very cute, but he got in
the car later and he's like, I could have done that better.
And I, I always took that to heart, right?
(09:32):
Like could have done that better.
That doesn't condone or excuse bad behavior.
Right. But the more consciousness we
can be, the more consciousness we can put into everything, the
better we are going to be. The better our lives are going
to be, the better the planet's going to be.
And we can only do that by listening to something that
isn't tethered to our peacefullylittle experiences of pain and
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suffering. My dog just dropped her bone
down the all 10 stairs. So if you guys heard the the.
Nothing. OK good.
Total silence on this side. So funny how awesome microphones
are because if you get the rightone it's like sound deafening.
Now on the other side, I love it.
So if you saw me flinch, that was what it was going.
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You're like, Oh yes, that momentof, of you're in conversation,
all of a sudden you have a break.
You're like, oh crap, so let's bring you back in.
So for all of our for our audience that's listening to
this and saying, OK, So what is soul language?
What can it do for me? Let's answer that question for
them. So soul language puts some
tangibility around soul, not to,but you're in a box or your
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essential nature, whatever you call that, but to give you words
to what you know deep down inside and to give you a sacred
container to create a conscious connection between you and your
soul. So, and we do identifications
for the personal soul and the business soul either.
Now all those people that are going to call me and go, Oh my
God, can you identify my business soul?
(11:02):
We have to identify the personalsoul before we identify the
business soul because you're putting your own crap into the
energy of your business. It's right, I know.
No fucking way. That's yeah, that's what we're
doing. But the business energies, pure
consciousness and your your soulin in this body is overlaid with
(11:24):
pain and suffering. So when we identify, we identify
three different categories. Your mission.
Now people get this all screwed up.
They think their purpose or mission is about someone else.
I. Isn't it though?
Isn't my mission about taking care of other people?
That's my female intuition coming in.
I, I I I don't really get sarcasm, but I think you're
(11:46):
being sarcastic. I am.
OK, good. But I was talking to this woman
the other day. She's like, well, it's my
mission to blah, blah, blah. And you know, and I was like,
yeah, no, it's not. And she, you could see like how
she wanted to hit me and I was like, you're talking about
delivery systems versus mission.Your what your mission here is,
it's profoundly here to experience.
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And then I'll offer that experience to the overflow.
So my mission language is calledequalizer.
It's all about creating that perfect formula balance, first
for myself and then for others. So it's really interesting to
watch me go into a restaurant because if it was too crowded,
it thins out. If it was too thin, it becomes
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crowd like it's the perfect balance of people coming in.
It's hysterical to watch. The second category is about how
you'll be known here, the fuel of your mission.
And my language in that categoryis called teacher of integrity.
So all of my life I've been ableto hear, see, understand where
people are out of the consciousness of love for
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themselves. Ioffer the them the chance to
get back in, which means back into their manifestation power,
back into balance, right? Harmony.
The third category is about our soulful personality.
And that's really about how our soul prefers to go through life.
And we tend to judge how our howwe prefer things, right?
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So my language in that category is called graceful warrior,
action, movement, courage and grace.
If I'm making more with something, I'm creating
suffering for myself and I've made war with a lot of things
right now, I get to ask what am I championing versus what am I
trying to make war with? And when someone has their
personal or their business all identified, I always give them a
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one liner based on their three languages.
That becomes their mild marker of consciousness.
If they're not being and doing that, they're creating struggle.
So my one liner is I create balance for myself and others
through love, integrity and courage.
And some days I do that really good and sometimes I do that
really bad, right? But I, but now I know how I'm
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using my energy. Where am I putting my focus?
How am I using my power right? Versus like playing a game of
roulette where I'm like, I don'tknow what I'm doing right?
So it'll really allow somebody apowerful tool to connect to
their soul and use that energy to achieve what they want to
experience here. And I love this too, because I
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think so many times as women specifically, we do struggle
with the language. Yeah, I know that as I continue
to work with women, we're redefining, like you said, like
we're there's the hero and the heroine, there's the the, the
goal and the intention. There's like there's a yin and
Yang in language that we don't often experience.
(14:38):
And so I love when you say this is your soul language because
you're giving the words that I think sometimes feel out of
reach. We're we're asking for them.
We're going to ChatGPT or, you know, go into the surface
everywhere to find the the language.
And you really brought all that together.
You've done the work, you've tapped into the Cosmo.
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You've really sat and listened and got the downloads so that
they can, as we as human beings,when we work with you, get the
sense that we are truly, I will say this whether you want to
hear it or not, audience. She's going to nail it right on
the head and you're going to resist and you're going to push
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back and you're going to say fuck you.
You're wrong. You might be a little, but I
will tell you this, that push that Jen does is exactly what
your soul has been craving. Would you agree?
Yeah. I mean, I would, yes, thank you
very much. But I would say it's what the
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human has been craving, right? Because the soul is always whole
and complete. We hear it through layers.
So I always get the question like, how do you know your soul
is talking to you versus the human?
And I say that people say versusthe ego.
And I'm like, your soul is always talking to you.
And they're like, you can watch their eyes go like this and like
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we hear our soul through layers.So by connecting to your soul,
right, soul language, you're hearing it through less layers.
And when you work with a practitioner, because I train
other people in this, right, they don't have your pain and
suffering. So when they're helping you
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connect to your soul languages, they're hearing the big energy.
So they don't have any of your gloop, right?
And so then you get a whole nother layer of understanding
the power of that and why you chose that energy to use this
time around and how it really isdivinely guided for you.
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You got it's like a giant bus ticket.
You have everything you need inside of you to get from where
you want to go, right? It's we forget we have the bus
ticket. We don't often use the bus
ticket. You know, we are trying to shut.
I take the bus sometimes it's grand, right?
And I'm like, I do it all the time.
I put the change in the wrong thing and the bus driver always
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looks at me and I was like, I know I get this wrong every
time, right? But it's like so often we're
trying to make something happen.We're forcing our our use of our
energy rather than what David Hawkins would say would would be
your power. And by connecting to your soul
languages, by talking and havingthat conversation, you come from
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a place of deep knowing and power.
And that creates, listen, a lot of people don't declare their
energy or use their energy appropriately, right?
And so imagine all this energy like I'm waiting.
And so then the universe just kind of bends towards your will
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because it's just waiting for you to declare which direction
the energy wants to go. And we declare it a lot in not a
sustainable way, right? There's a difference between bad
noise pollution and good noise pollution, right?
So bad noise pollution looks like, Oh my God, I'm not enough
and what happened? And Oh my God, I had that credit
card not go through. She could not call me back.
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Did I make a mistake versus goodnoise pollution with this?
I'm loved and supported and provided for and all is well,
right? You can feel the difference in
your body and that most people discount that as something that
they require or need, right, They'll rather have marketing.
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Let's let's get the words. Right.
Yeah, the copyright. Right versus Oh my God, I feel
so good. And then from there, you know,
the copy even flows even more, right because it has a different
energy around it. Now I teach people to really
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utilize their divine voice in such a way that they could go
bread and people will go. I don't know what that is, but I
know I want that. Like right, That's the energy
you want to put into everything you do.
And when you can't, like when you're having a bad day, knowing
that you and I call my higher power God, knowing you have a
God generator that's just going rather than, Oh my God, this is
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all up to me. No, our parts are so tiny some
time. So the question I have for you
as we dive into this, you know, we talk about your soul
language, you talk about where you're at in business.
Is there a gap that we're not aware of in terms of how we're
using this energy? Is there an energy gap that we
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can that we can just start this that I'm asking you about?
Yes. I don't know why.
Yes. Yeah, there are energy leaks,
energy gaps, right. And I, I think, you know, they
show up in, in four different ways, right?
Money, how you feel about your gifts and talents, how you use
your energy and whether you're making war with things, right?
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Warrior energy within soul language there, there are soul
languages that are distinctly warrior energy.
And when we have warrior energy,it's not like any other energy.
It has to, it has to be treated a little special, right?
Because, right? Because it it's so.
Black and white that it needs tomove into Gray.
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And growing up, most warrior energy has had to fight for what
they wanted or to fight to be seen and heard.
And so that leaves totally different patterns.
And they're kind of like a dog with a bone sometimes, right?
I can say this, 'cause I'm a warrior, right?
Like, you know, like death grip of control.
But when you understand how you're what, what's happening
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and where's the energy leaks or the gaps in your business, you
can close them. And what really causes an energy
leak or gap is where you feel not enough.
Now listen, we all feel not enough.
Stop trying to undo the not enough.
I've got to feel it. I'm going to totally be honest
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with my listeners. Yeah, I have 5, more than 9.
Even now. Success still, still still has
the plan of not being enough. Yes.
But then you get to use that as a way to create more, right?
So there's this kind of spiritual, I'm going to say
principle. It's not really principle, but
like we're going to eradicate that belief and we're going to
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change it and let. Yeah, we're going to fix it the
the fixing thing, but. Not enough is a tool for you to
understand where you feel separate, where you feel not
whole and complete and move towards completeness, right?
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And it's always going to be an evolutionary tool for you.
So when you know your gap, then you know the symptoms of that or
the results of that. You could be like, oh, now I'm
going to say a lot. I don't go OK, I go, Oh my God,
right. But the practice is to go woo
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Hoo. I aim, I want more, let's close
the gap. I want more, let's close the
gap. And so.
Can we close the gap? You can, yeah.
For a time it can be closed until you want more and then.
You're gonna. Separate again?
Yeah, it's a. Wait, that's not what I wanted
to. Hear.
I'm sorry. You were supposed to tell me
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that I could close gaps. I could like, thread the needle,
bring it together, it'd be fixed.
I'd move on. It wouldn't come back.
No, no it doesn't. And I think that's the most
shocking. The shocking thing about
evolution, self development, spirituality is that your
greatest challenge is always going to be your greatest
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challenge. You need to make it your skill
builder. It needs to build skills.
And so when you're in the not enough, if we can remember,
we're asking for more. Let's tune into our soul and see
how our soul can help us close that gap, close that empty link.
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And I think it's really hard sometimes for people to
understand their energy gap, even though they're experiencing
the. Pain.
Yeah, right. And I think even as I do more in
those in this work, as I do continue to my self-awareness
journey, that was the one of thebiggest things I will have to
say that Jennifer, that really was a transformation for me was
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I thought I had to go through self development to fix
something. I thought something was broken,
right? You are not broken.
And it, it took me and I went through this self development
for like years and it probably took me to like my third or
fourth year in all all honesty, to realize that there was
nothing wrong with me. I, there was nothing to fix.
Like you said, it is the awareness.
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It is complete self-awareness atan at a level that is unique to
each of one of us. Yeah.
And when you realize that there's nothing to fix, doesn't
your body relax a little? Like are you like OK.
I have more grace with myself. Yeah.
I'm not beating myself up or stressing myself out for God.
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I'm doing that thing again. Or, you know, like I I just
like, all right, so how long do I want to be with that?
And what do I want to shift now?Because that's where the only
time the shift happens is present and in the moment.
So what am I wanting to shift now?
And you know, am I willing to dothat or am I going to resist my
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my true voice, my true self? Well, what I love about the word
grace is one of the definitions of grace is in the favor of God,
right? I just like, Oh yeah, I'm
totally in the favor of God. Like let's just receive it.
And often you can use the word trust in replace of grace or
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hope. And trust is an active
participation. And trust doesn't mean like
everything's going to work out. Get exactly what I want.
Trust means that you're going tobe safe, supportive and loved no
matter what the circumstances the details are.
And I think a lot of us have hadsome really bad self
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development, spiritual foundations that have us chasing
a carrot and right. And and that's painful because
you then you always feel like you're failing.
Yep, that was part of my journey.
That was actually, I feel like I'm like, why am I in this?
If I feel like I'm never fixing air quotes, what I feel is
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broken, but that's the cure. That's what they keep dangling
in front of you to get you to manage to do more work, to spend
more in yourself development. It's the perpetual state of not
being enough, right? And my.
Philosophy is to tune in and to use the knowing that you're
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enough to create what you want. Well, Jennifer, you even said it
when we talked about what the soul language is, right?
It's the language for you, for who you are, what is your
mission, how you'll know this and your, you know, your soulful
personality, right? This what you do is you give us
back the language to recognize this is who we are to hear
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clearly through. And when you said layers, like
we're listening through layers on my brain, all of a sudden I
saw like like 50,000 like it wasjust like they're not thick
layers in my head, but they werelike invisible little layers.
That was, that was that prevention.
And to pull through that really takes an expert like you and a
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practitioner that can guide thatbecause you The thing is, and I
will be straight up honest with everybody in my audience.
You know this, I love all the, the therapy and everything out
there. And you, there's some amazing
coaches, but if they take you down the hole they can't get you
out of, that is not a safe space.
And yeah, Jennifer said they're going, oh, God, no.
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But I've seen it. I've seen it with coaches out
there in different areas. What I love about what you're
doing as a practitioner, it is apractice.
You are coaching, you're evolving, you are using the
language, you're listening and you're being guided.
And I think as anybody that works with you, that is the safe
space that and especially for USwomen, I will say this in, in
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your search for self, in your search for your soul, to hear
that connection, it's going to take another woman in all
honesty, to hear your soul because we are closest to that
in so many aspects. And so if you're stuck with your
business, if you're stuck aroundmoney, if you're stuck in a
relationship, if you're stuck around something, Jennifer is
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the one that you're going to say, OK, I need to connect with
her because there's something that I'm not hearing or
experiencing that while there's a lot of noise out there in the
world of marketing, business, money and everything else, I
have truly discovered that womenlike Jennifer are the, the,
they're literally the, I'm shocked still to this day that
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we've connected. But it was by divine universe
grace that we are brought together.
And I gave you the. Business when you connected.
Yeah, I did. I was like, listen, if you're
gonna pitch me something like, you know, because every LinkedIn
message I get like and it honestly, it's a lot of Bros,
but right, like, hey, and and I can see the when people do it
(29:01):
like the coach or the formula they got, because it's like,
right, I'm like. It's the same freaking format.
I can help you dude, I didn't know I had a problem.
Yeah, or hey, have you ever thought of writing a book?
I'm like, hey, did you read my LinkedIn profile?
Did you hook me up? Like hey, I've got 2 of.
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These assumptions. Right, like like just do a
little bit of research and, and I think that's also my former
career of marketing NPR, like, you know, I can.
Spot the bullshit. I can spot the bullshit on A2
level and on APR level. And you know, I, I was raised in
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marketing PR by some tough people, right?
We did our work. I'll never forget a phone call I
had with an AP reporter. I called her and I was like,
hello, Margaret. And that's not her name.
I can't really remember her name, but I'm like, hello,
Margaret. Do you have a minute?
And she's like, who told you youcould call me by my first name?
I was like, oh, OK, I'm sorry. You know, it's like, I don't
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call me back on Tuesday. So I call her back on Tuesday.
I go, hello, Miss Smith. And she's like, why are you
calling me by my last name? And I was like, OK, right,
right. But it taught me a lot, right?
It taught me not to take things personally.
It taught me that, you know, if people aren't in alignment or in
their fear, it, it doesn't matter what you say or what you
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do that they are going to, if they're not conscious, they are
going to attack, right? Yeah, Snap, snap, attack, break
blame. And if any of that is happening
internally, 'cause we do that internally, cause a lot of us
have really good masks. But if we do that internally,
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then that is creating chaos in your business and that will go
back to one of your energy leaksand there's huge opportunity for
growth there for you. I'm not just talking about
internally. I'm talking about like the
Dallas because that's preventingyou from receiving what you
want. Yeah.
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So, you know, you're on a podcast called.
Did she really say that in this whole conversation?
I have a feeling, ladies, like Istarted this whole thing and
said, there's going to be moments when you're going to
say, did Jennifer really say that?
Has there been a moment when you've talked with a client or a
coach, somebody and you've said something and they've literally
been like jaw on the ground, eyes bogged out?
Like, did did she really say that?
(31:31):
Or did she just act like, was there a moment that you can kind
of share without giving away personal information?
Yeah. I mean, there's a, there's,
there's a couple, I mean, there's really great ones and
there's ones that didn't go so well.
Even though it was truth. I was talking to a client.
I was like, listen, I really think that you have trauma
around being abused and I think it's time that we talked about
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it and she's like, I don't want to talk to you anymore.
And she hung up on me and then she fired right.
And I, I learned a big lesson there because that was earlier,
you know, in my 17 years and I learned like I now I TuneIn with
with my team and I go, is it in the greatest good of all that?
I say this not because I care ifthey fire me or not, but because
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if I did, I would have gotten a no.
She would have fired me eventually because I was
lovingly pushing her, but it wouldn't have been so jarring
for me. I could see that.
Yeah, the I think recently was Isaid to someone, well, I think
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you think that's your purpose, but here's what your real
purpose is. And she went, she just started
crying. She's like, yeah.
And I've been afraid to admit it.
And I was like, well, how do youfeel now?
She's like, oh, my God. Relieved, right?
You know it. And then there are times where I
do it and I don't even know about it.
Like, I'm standing, washing dishes, talking to my mother on
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the phone like 10 years ago. And I was like, so mom, what's
going on? Are you getting an MRI or
anything? And it was like, out of my,
like, it was like drunk. I was like, did I say that?
She's like, how do you know that?
Did your my sisters tell you? And I was like, no, wait, you're
getting an MRI like, right. Like there are just times where
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I just say something and I'm noteven aware that I'm saying it.
I can, I can get that. I, I have, I'll have times when
I'm sitting there talking to a client and then there's just a
question that I have to ask and I have no idea why I'm asking
the questions. It seems like out of the blue.
But there is times when that happens and it's just, it's,
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it's being open to that and thenasking that question like
trusting yourself that you're being guided to ask that
question. So I love that.
So as we wrap up, I can't believe we're already like
having too much fun. So let's let's touch on a couple
things. So what's next for Jennifer and
Soul Language? What do you see in 2026?
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What's going? What's your future?
We more practitioners are we like?
What is it? I would love more practitioners,
but it's a calling. So I usually wait for people to
like go, hey, I'd like to be a practitioner 'cause it really is
a calling. We're releasing a Soul Mandala
book. I will show you the cover 'cause
I love it. I'm so excited.
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I love. It I love it.
I have a product called BusinessCandy Land that I started last
year that I would really love tofocus on because I think people
get like shocked, like, what do I do in my Business Today,
right? And so it's like just spin the
wheel, right? So true.
(34:50):
That's I think I'm gonna borrow that.
Just spin the wheel, pick the one.
That's in the wheel. You know, I wrote down a couple
things last week, like this is the year of the products, right?
You know, someone asked me, I doa series called The Way of the
Warrior. We have the original program,
The Way of the Warrior Inner child.
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We have The Way of the Warrior sacred Feminine and one
practitioner who also has practitionership in Way of the
Warriors. Like you're doing any more Way
of the Warriors. And I was like wrote down Way of
the Warrior business. So I was like, and every January
I say I'm going to write a fiction mystery book and then I
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threw do 3 pages and I get boredand I so but also I'm I'm really
into making little miniature stuff of things, which is fun.
So I think also focusing on morefun, focusing on more enjoyment
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and continuing to build a community because everyone who
comes into my community are rockstars and they're amazing and
they form little amazing like inner communities together.
Like like they have this whole chat stream a bunch of them.
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And I'm like, what do you mean? And why am I not on that chat
stream? They're like, you know why
you're not? I was like, yeah, because I
would get annoyed about how manytexts you guys sent.
They're like, totally like, put me on, I'll just mute it.
And the other day I picked up myphone.
I was like 4 texts right? Right.
Yeah. But they're all supporting each
other in huge ways, and I think that's really key.
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I think it's really a time of finding no more lone, lone
wolfs. Find that community that
supports you. Yeah, I, I totally agree with
that. I think the lone wolf wolf and
even the lone female wolf is is coming to pass, right?
Like that is no longer that. And I and I keep playing with
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this phase that keeps coming to my head around alpha female.
Alpha female is not a solo alphafemale's community.
She is strength, she is trust, she is commitment.
She is the expression of I am fierce.
I am here, I will protect you. Piss me off and you'll see the
side of me that takes you down right?
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But both. Of my dogs just went and they're
both female. Yeah, they're agreeing with you.
Because it's, it is our. It is our space and place to
build the community and I think we've been so disconnected from
each other that that is the biggest client I hear across
this whole entire podcast is theconnection piece and the desire.
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For it, yeah, We've been disconnected and there's been a
plan for the disconnection, right?
Like you have people warring against each other and they
can't unite and they, you know, create the change that's needed,
so. Yeah, so let's talk about your
giveaway for this audience as wewrap this up, the soulful
language, the Soul language quiz.
(38:02):
So talk to me about what that isfor them and how that gets them
starting and connecting with youand learning with.
You, I love that. So it's a, you know,
consciousness IQ quiz for your business.
You take the quiz, it's I think 4 minutes and you're going to
find out what your energy leak is, what your energy gap is, and
then you're going to get a tool right away.
And then you'll get four or fivedifferent tools for that gap so
(38:26):
you can close it. I love the quiz because I love a
quiz and B, because it really gives you tools right then right
there that you can utilize. I, I'm really into content like
I'm like, right, You'll never hear me say, well, you have to
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hire me to find out the answer. I can't even say without like
wanting to screen. Right.
I believe if you don't have something that you can use in
your everyday life, if it's not tangible, what's the point?
So the quiz gives you a lot of tangibility.
It does. And when I took it, you know, I
didn't want to admit it, but there was definitely a money
leak in my, in my own right. And she and Jennifer knew this
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like when we were in chat and she was like, I think you have a
money leak. And she didn't say no, right.
But I took but that's. Good.
Because that means you're just asking for more in that area,
right? So all that means.
Yeah. And it was, it was just, and you
know, the beautiful thing is like you gave me a phrase and
for, for, you know, the universealways arises and brings up.
And so there was one statement that you made to me is how does
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money know or how does somethingabout how does money know that
you're happy or, or it's like, how does how does something
around that was like happy and money and how does your money
know that you're happy? It was something that came up in
that conversation. And that's arisen because I knew
we were doing this podcast interview.
I was like, OK, And there's justthis constant question, like
it'll pop up when I'm in the shower, it'll pop up when I'm
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going to sleep, it'll pop up when I'm driving around town,
like. I'll be having some thoughts and
all of a sudden that will pop upin there.
So I'm like, all right there. That is that soul language, that
conversation, that where I'm listening and what's being asked
and where am I showing up insideof that and that trust and
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building that, that trust again with myself and my relationship
where I'm having it. You know, where I've had issues
with money, energy and where is where is setting up to come in
and preparing myself for that huge transfer of energy coming
in. So thank you for that gift.
You're welcome. Honestly, it was absolutely
beautiful. And you know, thank you for just
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who you are. Thank you inside of the soul
language and what you're bringing into the world and what
you've burst and the support that you truly just show up as.
So thank you for that. Oh thank you, what a great way
to start my day. Well, go rock your day.
I want to thank you for listening in and listeners.
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All of her links are going to bedown in the show notes.
Connect with her, take the quiz for sure, the videos, the
Nuggets, the ability to dive deeper into those little gaps
that you're experiencing and that I would absolutely
recommend without a doubt there is there's something magical
(41:23):
here and I you need should no need, no want desire.
You have to desire. I'm going through words here.
You desire to get to have this in your life and trust that
instinct and take action and click that link in the show
notes and connect with Jennifer.You honestly will probably be
one of the best decisions you make now that you've met her.
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It works. All right, Jennifer, any last
words of wisdom before we pop off?
Yeah, just ask yourself if you're making a decision based
on wholeness and completeness orsomething else.
And if you do that one tool, it will change your life.
And there she is everybody. Did she really say that?
So thank you for joining us again on this another amazing
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episode. And as I always say, stick
around and stay tuned and share this out with other women.
When we start re coming togetherand we start sharing the
expertise around women, we builda collaboration and a collective
that really supports US women inour business and gives us
permission to truly be who we are meant to be and Our Calling
and what we're bringing forth inthe world.
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So with that, thank you for joining in and we'll see you on
the next episode.
Well, welcome back to this episode of Did she really say
that? And you're going to say you're
going to hear this a lot in yourhead as we have this
conversation today with Jenniferbecause I love what she teaches
around the soulful language and it just everything who she is,
right? And this is going to be the soul
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language you wish you had known earlier.
And you like me, you know how much I'm passionate around
finding your purpose, aligning your purpose and bringing it all
centered into a productivity tool, which is why I love the
create hair planner that we've created for women because what
Jennifer talks about is an alignment with this, right?
How do you track your soul energy if you have no idea and
(00:43):
there's no tools out there to doit?
So I brought Jen on because you need to hear this and I will
tell you I've already taken the quiz.
We're gonna talk about that alsobecause that is her giveaway at
the end of this episode. So who is Jennifer?
She's a soul whisperer and it's true.
She is a no BS incinerator. She is a divine code breaker who
(01:07):
moonlights as an intuitive strategist but secretly operates
as an interdimensional translator for your soul's
deepest truth. Deep breath right there.
That in right. She didn't just find or found
soul language, she channeled an entire spiritual dialect from
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the parent para mortals of the divine and turned it into a
system that makes. Your therapist.
Weep and your higher self applaud.
She's the one who the angels call when they need a
communication upgrade. So yes, imagine if Carl Jung and
Joan of Arc had a love Charles raised by Oracle whales.
(01:51):
And. Training into intuitive jitsu by
the cosmic monks. That.
That's Jennifer. OK, She doesn't do it.
Gentle nudges. It's not her thing.
I can tell you that straight up.She throws spiritual lightning
bolts wrapped in the velvet, right?
She'll read your energetic mail,highlight the part so that
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you've been avoiding ladies, we've been avoiding a lot, and
hand you a blueprint to sovereignty with the side of Get
over yourself right now. Bam, right?
She can do. She can decode your divine
operating system in less time than it takes to your ego to
panic her clients. Her clients don't just transform
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ladies. They quantum leap into
unapologetic alignment, droppingtheir karmic baggage at the curb
and finally stop asking the universe for permission.
And that is who she is. She's here to wake you the fuck
up, to be honest. And I love this conversation.
I love that you use the F bomb. I love it.
(02:55):
Well, yeah, come on. Like you're talking soul
alignment, Jennifer, if anybody I know, your soul alignment is
being, you know who you are, whatever pops out of your mouth,
if it's a swear word, great. If it's a word that you're
offended by, great. Because in some respects, soul
language is about triggering yourself.
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So it's. About coming back home to who
you are and letting go of all ofthe things you've been told or
the experiences that you have. And, and I love to throw around
the F bombs. I mean, I have a free guide
called That's not your fucking purpose.
Like, I get it. Like there's so many myths
around who we are or who we're told that we are that people can
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either use it as a crutch or start to kind of really decode
who they are by listening to them Internet themselves
internally rather than than having all the external
metaphysical mumbo jumbo and. I feel like that's a lot of what
we're dealing with and I'm not bashing anything that's out
there, but there's so much junk around self development,
(04:03):
personality assessments, this and that.
There is The Who you are like, there's the human design and all
it like. I feel like it's.
Did you see my eye roll? Yeah, I saw your eye roll.
Right. And all this stuff.
It's like they're trying to still put you in a box and
you're letting them say that this is defining who you are
when I truly believe in reality,Jen, that it might be a moment
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of who you were. Yeah.
But you don't stay there and people think they stay there.
Like Oh my God. And when I love let's.
Talk about that. I know what I love about some
languages is the definitions areone or two pages, not 27.
No. And you once you had your soul
language identified, you don't need someone to tell you what
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house your Leo is or what node or how.
I mean, I've had I listen, I've had my human design that done a
bunch of times and I'm like, what?
Why is it like, why is it so confusing?
And why do I need a translator? And listen, if it works for you,
great. But what I notice is, is that
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then people don't go inward for the answer, right?
And that becomes a very dangerous slope because you're
handing over your power, your essential nature, how you choose
to make decisions, your gifts tosomething or someone else.
And that doesn't create what youwant to create.
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It creates stagnation and pain and suffering and all those
things that keep us in that kindof trying to make a round box
square in a square box round. Yeah.
And it's so sad because I think so many high achieving women,
they get stuck in that too. Yeah, they see that and they're
like, this is exactly who I am. I'm like, yeah, but you're
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evolving that you can't stay there.
You're not that design all the time.
And they try to say, well, it's from the moment you're born on
this cosmic Earth and everythingelse they said, and that is why
you're here, is to evolve from what you came down as and who
you are as a being. That's not the ultimate end
game, yeah. And and that's also why I love
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soul language because it's a living breathing paradigm.
Like the definitions have evolved.
For example, there's a a how so the categories are mission, how
you'll be known here and then your soulful personality.
So there's a how you'll be knownhere.
It's called the axiom of translation called hero.
And a couple years ago, one of the practitioners came to me and
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go, I think that this should be hero and heroine.
And I went, oh, my God. Yeah, we've evolved.
We're coming more into that balance of sacred feminine,
sacred masculine. So yes.
So I updated the the definitions.
And then I got to send that out to all the heroes and explain
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why the definition was evolved. And their comments were like,
yeah, totally. I get that.
Like they could feel it in theirbones, right?
And that's what you need. You need systems that are going
to be a resource or tool to helpyou put into evolution.
Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you.
No, you're finished the sentence.
That's so true. It is to be into evolution.
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So which leads to the question, why is being connected to your
soul so important? I think when we're disconnected
or and we're always connected, it's whether we feel connected
or not. But when we feel disconnected,
we make decisions based out of pain and programming.
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We make decisions in what we think is the greatest good of
all. We make a decision based on
feeling not safe, feeling unheard, feeling unseen.
And we've all seen the impact inthe effects of that, right?
And how that results not only insuffering in our individual
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lives, but extended out into thecommunity, the world's, right?
So when we make a decision basedon a knowing soul, guidance, the
truth with a big T, we're doing that in the greatest good of
all, whether everyone realizes it or not.
And your soul knows so much morethan you, your little tiny
(08:26):
brain, could ever possibly know.And yes.
Right, it's ever expanding. Your soul is.
Ever expanding well, in reality,Katrina, the the amount of soul
that are in our bodies is like ashot glass right.
So when you let go of fear and programming, there's more soul
that can come in and be embodiedand the more you listen right,
(08:49):
the more you have this deep sense of knowing that you're
safe supported and provided for and listen.
It's a practice and sometimes I'm really great at it and
sometimes I right and it's OK right it's OK right My best
friend's kid he's now but he gotinto it's a long story, but he
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got into a fight at a birthday party.
I think he was like 6 and he thekid kept needling him needling
him needling him and finally he just went you want me to go WWE
on you? It was very cute, but he got in
the car later and he's like, I could have done that better.
And I, I always took that to heart, right?
(09:32):
Like could have done that better.
That doesn't condone or excuse bad behavior.
Right. But the more consciousness we
can be, the more consciousness we can put into everything, the
better we are going to be. The better our lives are going
to be, the better the planet's going to be.
And we can only do that by listening to something that
isn't tethered to our peacefullylittle experiences of pain and
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suffering. My dog just dropped her bone
down the all 10 stairs. So if you guys heard the the.
Nothing. OK good.
Total silence on this side. So funny how awesome microphones
are because if you get the rightone it's like sound deafening.
Now on the other side, I love it.
So if you saw me flinch, that was what it was going.
(10:19):
You're like, Oh yes, that momentof, of you're in conversation,
all of a sudden you have a break.
You're like, oh crap, so let's bring you back in.
So for all of our for our audience that's listening to
this and saying, OK, So what is soul language?
What can it do for me? Let's answer that question for
them. So soul language puts some
tangibility around soul, not to,but you're in a box or your
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essential nature, whatever you call that, but to give you words
to what you know deep down inside and to give you a sacred
container to create a conscious connection between you and your
soul. So, and we do identifications
for the personal soul and the business soul either.
Now all those people that are going to call me and go, Oh my
God, can you identify my business soul?
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We have to identify the personalsoul before we identify the
business soul because you're putting your own crap into the
energy of your business. It's right, I know.
No fucking way. That's yeah, that's what we're
doing. But the business energies, pure
consciousness and your your soulin in this body is overlaid with
(11:24):
pain and suffering. So when we identify, we identify
three different categories. Your mission.
Now people get this all screwed up.
They think their purpose or mission is about someone else.
I. Isn't it though?
Isn't my mission about taking care of other people?
That's my female intuition coming in.
I, I I I don't really get sarcasm, but I think you're
(11:46):
being sarcastic. I am.
OK, good. But I was talking to this woman
the other day. She's like, well, it's my
mission to blah, blah, blah. And you know, and I was like,
yeah, no, it's not. And she, you could see like how
she wanted to hit me and I was like, you're talking about
delivery systems versus mission.Your what your mission here is,
it's profoundly here to experience.
(12:07):
And then I'll offer that experience to the overflow.
So my mission language is calledequalizer.
It's all about creating that perfect formula balance, first
for myself and then for others. So it's really interesting to
watch me go into a restaurant because if it was too crowded,
it thins out. If it was too thin, it becomes
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crowd like it's the perfect balance of people coming in.
It's hysterical to watch. The second category is about how
you'll be known here, the fuel of your mission.
And my language in that categoryis called teacher of integrity.
So all of my life I've been ableto hear, see, understand where
people are out of the consciousness of love for
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themselves. Ioffer the them the chance to
get back in, which means back into their manifestation power,
back into balance, right? Harmony.
The third category is about our soulful personality.
And that's really about how our soul prefers to go through life.
And we tend to judge how our howwe prefer things, right?
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So my language in that category is called graceful warrior,
action, movement, courage and grace.
If I'm making more with something, I'm creating
suffering for myself and I've made war with a lot of things
right now, I get to ask what am I championing versus what am I
trying to make war with? And when someone has their
personal or their business all identified, I always give them a
(13:33):
one liner based on their three languages.
That becomes their mild marker of consciousness.
If they're not being and doing that, they're creating struggle.
So my one liner is I create balance for myself and others
through love, integrity and courage.
And some days I do that really good and sometimes I do that
really bad, right? But I, but now I know how I'm
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using my energy. Where am I putting my focus?
How am I using my power right? Versus like playing a game of
roulette where I'm like, I don'tknow what I'm doing right?
So it'll really allow somebody apowerful tool to connect to
their soul and use that energy to achieve what they want to
experience here. And I love this too, because I
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think so many times as women specifically, we do struggle
with the language. Yeah, I know that as I continue
to work with women, we're redefining, like you said, like
we're there's the hero and the heroine, there's the the, the
goal and the intention. There's like there's a yin and
Yang in language that we don't often experience.
(14:38):
And so I love when you say this is your soul language because
you're giving the words that I think sometimes feel out of
reach. We're we're asking for them.
We're going to ChatGPT or, you know, go into the surface
everywhere to find the the language.
And you really brought all that together.
You've done the work, you've tapped into the Cosmo.
(14:59):
You've really sat and listened and got the downloads so that
they can, as we as human beings,when we work with you, get the
sense that we are truly, I will say this whether you want to
hear it or not, audience. She's going to nail it right on
the head and you're going to resist and you're going to push
(15:20):
back and you're going to say fuck you.
You're wrong. You might be a little, but I
will tell you this, that push that Jen does is exactly what
your soul has been craving. Would you agree?
Yeah. I mean, I would, yes, thank you
very much. But I would say it's what the
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human has been craving, right? Because the soul is always whole
and complete. We hear it through layers.
So I always get the question like, how do you know your soul
is talking to you versus the human?
And I say that people say versusthe ego.
And I'm like, your soul is always talking to you.
And they're like, you can watch their eyes go like this and like
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we hear our soul through layers.So by connecting to your soul,
right, soul language, you're hearing it through less layers.
And when you work with a practitioner, because I train
other people in this, right, they don't have your pain and
suffering. So when they're helping you
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connect to your soul languages, they're hearing the big energy.
So they don't have any of your gloop, right?
And so then you get a whole nother layer of understanding
the power of that and why you chose that energy to use this
time around and how it really isdivinely guided for you.
(16:47):
You got it's like a giant bus ticket.
You have everything you need inside of you to get from where
you want to go, right? It's we forget we have the bus
ticket. We don't often use the bus
ticket. You know, we are trying to shut.
I take the bus sometimes it's grand, right?
And I'm like, I do it all the time.
I put the change in the wrong thing and the bus driver always
(17:08):
looks at me and I was like, I know I get this wrong every
time, right? But it's like so often we're
trying to make something happen.We're forcing our our use of our
energy rather than what David Hawkins would say would would be
your power. And by connecting to your soul
languages, by talking and havingthat conversation, you come from
(17:32):
a place of deep knowing and power.
And that creates, listen, a lot of people don't declare their
energy or use their energy appropriately, right?
And so imagine all this energy like I'm waiting.
And so then the universe just kind of bends towards your will
(17:52):
because it's just waiting for you to declare which direction
the energy wants to go. And we declare it a lot in not a
sustainable way, right? There's a difference between bad
noise pollution and good noise pollution, right?
So bad noise pollution looks like, Oh my God, I'm not enough
and what happened? And Oh my God, I had that credit
card not go through. She could not call me back.
(18:14):
Did I make a mistake versus goodnoise pollution with this?
I'm loved and supported and provided for and all is well,
right? You can feel the difference in
your body and that most people discount that as something that
they require or need, right, They'll rather have marketing.
(18:35):
Let's let's get the words. Right.
Yeah, the copyright. Right versus Oh my God, I feel
so good. And then from there, you know,
the copy even flows even more, right because it has a different
energy around it. Now I teach people to really
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utilize their divine voice in such a way that they could go
bread and people will go. I don't know what that is, but I
know I want that. Like right, That's the energy
you want to put into everything you do.
And when you can't, like when you're having a bad day, knowing
that you and I call my higher power God, knowing you have a
God generator that's just going rather than, Oh my God, this is
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all up to me. No, our parts are so tiny some
time. So the question I have for you
as we dive into this, you know, we talk about your soul
language, you talk about where you're at in business.
Is there a gap that we're not aware of in terms of how we're
using this energy? Is there an energy gap that we
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can that we can just start this that I'm asking you about?
Yes. I don't know why.
Yes. Yeah, there are energy leaks,
energy gaps, right. And I, I think, you know, they
show up in, in four different ways, right?
Money, how you feel about your gifts and talents, how you use
your energy and whether you're making war with things, right?
(20:04):
Warrior energy within soul language there, there are soul
languages that are distinctly warrior energy.
And when we have warrior energy,it's not like any other energy.
It has to, it has to be treated a little special, right?
Because, right? Because it it's so.
Black and white that it needs tomove into Gray.
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And growing up, most warrior energy has had to fight for what
they wanted or to fight to be seen and heard.
And so that leaves totally different patterns.
And they're kind of like a dog with a bone sometimes, right?
I can say this, 'cause I'm a warrior, right?
Like, you know, like death grip of control.
But when you understand how you're what, what's happening
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and where's the energy leaks or the gaps in your business, you
can close them. And what really causes an energy
leak or gap is where you feel not enough.
Now listen, we all feel not enough.
Stop trying to undo the not enough.
I've got to feel it. I'm going to totally be honest
(21:09):
with my listeners. Yeah, I have 5, more than 9.
Even now. Success still, still still has
the plan of not being enough. Yes.
But then you get to use that as a way to create more, right?
So there's this kind of spiritual, I'm going to say
principle. It's not really principle, but
like we're going to eradicate that belief and we're going to
(21:30):
change it and let. Yeah, we're going to fix it the
the fixing thing, but. Not enough is a tool for you to
understand where you feel separate, where you feel not
whole and complete and move towards completeness, right?
(21:50):
And it's always going to be an evolutionary tool for you.
So when you know your gap, then you know the symptoms of that or
the results of that. You could be like, oh, now I'm
going to say a lot. I don't go OK, I go, Oh my God,
right. But the practice is to go woo
(22:14):
Hoo. I aim, I want more, let's close
the gap. I want more, let's close the
gap. And so.
Can we close the gap? You can, yeah.
For a time it can be closed until you want more and then.
You're gonna. Separate again?
Yeah, it's a. Wait, that's not what I wanted
to. Hear.
I'm sorry. You were supposed to tell me
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that I could close gaps. I could like, thread the needle,
bring it together, it'd be fixed.
I'd move on. It wouldn't come back.
No, no it doesn't. And I think that's the most
shocking. The shocking thing about
evolution, self development, spirituality is that your
greatest challenge is always going to be your greatest
(22:56):
challenge. You need to make it your skill
builder. It needs to build skills.
And so when you're in the not enough, if we can remember,
we're asking for more. Let's tune into our soul and see
how our soul can help us close that gap, close that empty link.
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And I think it's really hard sometimes for people to
understand their energy gap, even though they're experiencing
the. Pain.
Yeah, right. And I think even as I do more in
those in this work, as I do continue to my self-awareness
journey, that was the one of thebiggest things I will have to
say that Jennifer, that really was a transformation for me was
(23:44):
I thought I had to go through self development to fix
something. I thought something was broken,
right? You are not broken.
And it, it took me and I went through this self development
for like years and it probably took me to like my third or
fourth year in all all honesty, to realize that there was
nothing wrong with me. I, there was nothing to fix.
Like you said, it is the awareness.
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It is complete self-awareness atan at a level that is unique to
each of one of us. Yeah.
And when you realize that there's nothing to fix, doesn't
your body relax a little? Like are you like OK.
I have more grace with myself. Yeah.
I'm not beating myself up or stressing myself out for God.
(24:30):
I'm doing that thing again. Or, you know, like I I just
like, all right, so how long do I want to be with that?
And what do I want to shift now?Because that's where the only
time the shift happens is present and in the moment.
So what am I wanting to shift now?
And you know, am I willing to dothat or am I going to resist my
(24:51):
my true voice, my true self? Well, what I love about the word
grace is one of the definitions of grace is in the favor of God,
right? I just like, Oh yeah, I'm
totally in the favor of God. Like let's just receive it.
And often you can use the word trust in replace of grace or
(25:14):
hope. And trust is an active
participation. And trust doesn't mean like
everything's going to work out. Get exactly what I want.
Trust means that you're going tobe safe, supportive and loved no
matter what the circumstances the details are.
And I think a lot of us have hadsome really bad self
(25:41):
development, spiritual foundations that have us chasing
a carrot and right. And and that's painful because
you then you always feel like you're failing.
Yep, that was part of my journey.
That was actually, I feel like I'm like, why am I in this?
If I feel like I'm never fixing air quotes, what I feel is
(26:02):
broken, but that's the cure. That's what they keep dangling
in front of you to get you to manage to do more work, to spend
more in yourself development. It's the perpetual state of not
being enough, right? And my.
Philosophy is to tune in and to use the knowing that you're
(26:22):
enough to create what you want. Well, Jennifer, you even said it
when we talked about what the soul language is, right?
It's the language for you, for who you are, what is your
mission, how you'll know this and your, you know, your soulful
personality, right? This what you do is you give us
back the language to recognize this is who we are to hear
(26:45):
clearly through. And when you said layers, like
we're listening through layers on my brain, all of a sudden I
saw like like 50,000 like it wasjust like they're not thick
layers in my head, but they werelike invisible little layers.
That was, that was that prevention.
And to pull through that really takes an expert like you and a
(27:05):
practitioner that can guide thatbecause you The thing is, and I
will be straight up honest with everybody in my audience.
You know this, I love all the, the therapy and everything out
there. And you, there's some amazing
coaches, but if they take you down the hole they can't get you
out of, that is not a safe space.
And yeah, Jennifer said they're going, oh, God, no.
(27:26):
But I've seen it. I've seen it with coaches out
there in different areas. What I love about what you're
doing as a practitioner, it is apractice.
You are coaching, you're evolving, you are using the
language, you're listening and you're being guided.
And I think as anybody that works with you, that is the safe
space that and especially for USwomen, I will say this in, in
(27:49):
your search for self, in your search for your soul, to hear
that connection, it's going to take another woman in all
honesty, to hear your soul because we are closest to that
in so many aspects. And so if you're stuck with your
business, if you're stuck aroundmoney, if you're stuck in a
relationship, if you're stuck around something, Jennifer is
(28:12):
the one that you're going to say, OK, I need to connect with
her because there's something that I'm not hearing or
experiencing that while there's a lot of noise out there in the
world of marketing, business, money and everything else, I
have truly discovered that womenlike Jennifer are the, the,
they're literally the, I'm shocked still to this day that
(28:35):
we've connected. But it was by divine universe
grace that we are brought together.
And I gave you the. Business when you connected.
Yeah, I did. I was like, listen, if you're
gonna pitch me something like, you know, because every LinkedIn
message I get like and it honestly, it's a lot of Bros,
but right, like, hey, and and I can see the when people do it
(29:01):
like the coach or the formula they got, because it's like,
right, I'm like. It's the same freaking format.
I can help you dude, I didn't know I had a problem.
Yeah, or hey, have you ever thought of writing a book?
I'm like, hey, did you read my LinkedIn profile?
Did you hook me up? Like hey, I've got 2 of.
(29:23):
These assumptions. Right, like like just do a
little bit of research and, and I think that's also my former
career of marketing NPR, like, you know, I can.
Spot the bullshit. I can spot the bullshit on A2
level and on APR level. And you know, I, I was raised in
(29:44):
marketing PR by some tough people, right?
We did our work. I'll never forget a phone call I
had with an AP reporter. I called her and I was like,
hello, Margaret. And that's not her name.
I can't really remember her name, but I'm like, hello,
Margaret. Do you have a minute?
And she's like, who told you youcould call me by my first name?
I was like, oh, OK, I'm sorry. You know, it's like, I don't
(30:06):
call me back on Tuesday. So I call her back on Tuesday.
I go, hello, Miss Smith. And she's like, why are you
calling me by my last name? And I was like, OK, right,
right. But it taught me a lot, right?
It taught me not to take things personally.
It taught me that, you know, if people aren't in alignment or in
their fear, it, it doesn't matter what you say or what you
(30:29):
do that they are going to, if they're not conscious, they are
going to attack, right? Yeah, Snap, snap, attack, break
blame. And if any of that is happening
internally, 'cause we do that internally, cause a lot of us
have really good masks. But if we do that internally,
(30:49):
then that is creating chaos in your business and that will go
back to one of your energy leaksand there's huge opportunity for
growth there for you. I'm not just talking about
internally. I'm talking about like the
Dallas because that's preventingyou from receiving what you
want. Yeah.
(31:10):
So, you know, you're on a podcast called.
Did she really say that in this whole conversation?
I have a feeling, ladies, like Istarted this whole thing and
said, there's going to be moments when you're going to
say, did Jennifer really say that?
Has there been a moment when you've talked with a client or a
coach, somebody and you've said something and they've literally
been like jaw on the ground, eyes bogged out?
Like, did did she really say that?
(31:31):
Or did she just act like, was there a moment that you can kind
of share without giving away personal information?
Yeah. I mean, there's a, there's,
there's a couple, I mean, there's really great ones and
there's ones that didn't go so well.
Even though it was truth. I was talking to a client.
I was like, listen, I really think that you have trauma
around being abused and I think it's time that we talked about
(31:53):
it and she's like, I don't want to talk to you anymore.
And she hung up on me and then she fired right.
And I, I learned a big lesson there because that was earlier,
you know, in my 17 years and I learned like I now I TuneIn with
with my team and I go, is it in the greatest good of all that?
I say this not because I care ifthey fire me or not, but because
(32:19):
if I did, I would have gotten a no.
She would have fired me eventually because I was
lovingly pushing her, but it wouldn't have been so jarring
for me. I could see that.
Yeah, the I think recently was Isaid to someone, well, I think
(32:43):
you think that's your purpose, but here's what your real
purpose is. And she went, she just started
crying. She's like, yeah.
And I've been afraid to admit it.
And I was like, well, how do youfeel now?
She's like, oh, my God. Relieved, right?
You know it. And then there are times where I
do it and I don't even know about it.
Like, I'm standing, washing dishes, talking to my mother on
(33:06):
the phone like 10 years ago. And I was like, so mom, what's
going on? Are you getting an MRI or
anything? And it was like, out of my,
like, it was like drunk. I was like, did I say that?
She's like, how do you know that?
Did your my sisters tell you? And I was like, no, wait, you're
getting an MRI like, right. Like there are just times where
(33:27):
I just say something and I'm noteven aware that I'm saying it.
I can, I can get that. I, I have, I'll have times when
I'm sitting there talking to a client and then there's just a
question that I have to ask and I have no idea why I'm asking
the questions. It seems like out of the blue.
But there is times when that happens and it's just, it's,
(33:48):
it's being open to that and thenasking that question like
trusting yourself that you're being guided to ask that
question. So I love that.
So as we wrap up, I can't believe we're already like
having too much fun. So let's let's touch on a couple
things. So what's next for Jennifer and
Soul Language? What do you see in 2026?
(34:08):
What's going? What's your future?
We more practitioners are we like?
What is it? I would love more practitioners,
but it's a calling. So I usually wait for people to
like go, hey, I'd like to be a practitioner 'cause it really is
a calling. We're releasing a Soul Mandala
book. I will show you the cover 'cause
I love it. I'm so excited.
(34:28):
I love. It I love it.
I have a product called BusinessCandy Land that I started last
year that I would really love tofocus on because I think people
get like shocked, like, what do I do in my Business Today,
right? And so it's like just spin the
wheel, right? So true.
(34:50):
That's I think I'm gonna borrow that.
Just spin the wheel, pick the one.
That's in the wheel. You know, I wrote down a couple
things last week, like this is the year of the products, right?
You know, someone asked me, I doa series called The Way of the
Warrior. We have the original program,
The Way of the Warrior Inner child.
(35:10):
We have The Way of the Warrior sacred Feminine and one
practitioner who also has practitionership in Way of the
Warriors. Like you're doing any more Way
of the Warriors. And I was like wrote down Way of
the Warrior business. So I was like, and every January
I say I'm going to write a fiction mystery book and then I
(35:30):
threw do 3 pages and I get boredand I so but also I'm I'm really
into making little miniature stuff of things, which is fun.
So I think also focusing on morefun, focusing on more enjoyment
(35:52):
and continuing to build a community because everyone who
comes into my community are rockstars and they're amazing and
they form little amazing like inner communities together.
Like like they have this whole chat stream a bunch of them.
(36:12):
And I'm like, what do you mean? And why am I not on that chat
stream? They're like, you know why
you're not? I was like, yeah, because I
would get annoyed about how manytexts you guys sent.
They're like, totally like, put me on, I'll just mute it.
And the other day I picked up myphone.
I was like 4 texts right? Right.
Yeah. But they're all supporting each
other in huge ways, and I think that's really key.
(36:36):
I think it's really a time of finding no more lone, lone
wolfs. Find that community that
supports you. Yeah, I, I totally agree with
that. I think the lone wolf wolf and
even the lone female wolf is is coming to pass, right?
Like that is no longer that. And I and I keep playing with
(37:00):
this phase that keeps coming to my head around alpha female.
Alpha female is not a solo alphafemale's community.
She is strength, she is trust, she is commitment.
She is the expression of I am fierce.
I am here, I will protect you. Piss me off and you'll see the
side of me that takes you down right?
(37:21):
But both. Of my dogs just went and they're
both female. Yeah, they're agreeing with you.
Because it's, it is our. It is our space and place to
build the community and I think we've been so disconnected from
each other that that is the biggest client I hear across
this whole entire podcast is theconnection piece and the desire.
(37:41):
For it, yeah, We've been disconnected and there's been a
plan for the disconnection, right?
Like you have people warring against each other and they
can't unite and they, you know, create the change that's needed,
so. Yeah, so let's talk about your
giveaway for this audience as wewrap this up, the soulful
language, the Soul language quiz.
(38:02):
So talk to me about what that isfor them and how that gets them
starting and connecting with youand learning with.
You, I love that. So it's a, you know,
consciousness IQ quiz for your business.
You take the quiz, it's I think 4 minutes and you're going to
find out what your energy leak is, what your energy gap is, and
then you're going to get a tool right away.
And then you'll get four or fivedifferent tools for that gap so
(38:26):
you can close it. I love the quiz because I love a
quiz and B, because it really gives you tools right then right
there that you can utilize. I, I'm really into content like
I'm like, right, You'll never hear me say, well, you have to
(38:46):
hire me to find out the answer. I can't even say without like
wanting to screen. Right.
I believe if you don't have something that you can use in
your everyday life, if it's not tangible, what's the point?
So the quiz gives you a lot of tangibility.
It does. And when I took it, you know, I
didn't want to admit it, but there was definitely a money
leak in my, in my own right. And she and Jennifer knew this
(39:12):
like when we were in chat and she was like, I think you have a
money leak. And she didn't say no, right.
But I took but that's. Good.
Because that means you're just asking for more in that area,
right? So all that means.
Yeah. And it was, it was just, and you
know, the beautiful thing is like you gave me a phrase and
for, for, you know, the universealways arises and brings up.
And so there was one statement that you made to me is how does
(39:35):
money know or how does somethingabout how does money know that
you're happy or, or it's like, how does how does something
around that was like happy and money and how does your money
know that you're happy? It was something that came up in
that conversation. And that's arisen because I knew
we were doing this podcast interview.
I was like, OK, And there's justthis constant question, like
it'll pop up when I'm in the shower, it'll pop up when I'm
(39:57):
going to sleep, it'll pop up when I'm driving around town,
like. I'll be having some thoughts and
all of a sudden that will pop upin there.
So I'm like, all right there. That is that soul language, that
conversation, that where I'm listening and what's being asked
and where am I showing up insideof that and that trust and
(40:18):
building that, that trust again with myself and my relationship
where I'm having it. You know, where I've had issues
with money, energy and where is where is setting up to come in
and preparing myself for that huge transfer of energy coming
in. So thank you for that gift.
You're welcome. Honestly, it was absolutely
beautiful. And you know, thank you for just
(40:40):
who you are. Thank you inside of the soul
language and what you're bringing into the world and what
you've burst and the support that you truly just show up as.
So thank you for that. Oh thank you, what a great way
to start my day. Well, go rock your day.
I want to thank you for listening in and listeners.
(41:00):
All of her links are going to bedown in the show notes.
Connect with her, take the quiz for sure, the videos, the
Nuggets, the ability to dive deeper into those little gaps
that you're experiencing and that I would absolutely
recommend without a doubt there is there's something magical
(41:23):
here and I you need should no need, no want desire.
You have to desire. I'm going through words here.
You desire to get to have this in your life and trust that
instinct and take action and click that link in the show
notes and connect with Jennifer.You honestly will probably be
one of the best decisions you make now that you've met her.
(41:45):
It works. All right, Jennifer, any last
words of wisdom before we pop off?
Yeah, just ask yourself if you're making a decision based
on wholeness and completeness orsomething else.
And if you do that one tool, it will change your life.
And there she is everybody. Did she really say that?
So thank you for joining us again on this another amazing
(42:05):
episode. And as I always say, stick
around and stay tuned and share this out with other women.
When we start re coming togetherand we start sharing the
expertise around women, we builda collaboration and a collective
that really supports US women inour business and gives us
permission to truly be who we are meant to be and Our Calling
and what we're bringing forth inthe world.
(42:25):
So with that, thank you for joining in and we'll see you on
the next episode.
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