August 29, 2023 • 38 mins
Step back into the golden era of broadcasting as me and my new best friend Steve Stansell and I journey down memory lane, recalling our early days in radio. Starting as a young 16-year-old in a small South Georgian town, Steve worked his way up to a radio personality, and had an amazing career on the air! We also reminisce about his experience with the Allman Brothers Band and their album "Seven Turns".
We'll shed light on the struggles that musicians face in the industry and share our thoughts on music merchandise. Brace yourself for a recount of the Molson Ice Polar Beach Party of 1995, an event that took place in the Northwest Territory of Canada. As we wrap up, we'll touch on Steve's shift into launching a successful voiceover business. So hop aboard this fun ride for a unique glimpse into the radio industry and our shared love for music.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
And welcome back to this week's episode.
Did we just become best friends?
Steve Stantzall.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Hi, Lydia.
Yes, we did.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Like here you are.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Oh my gosh, I am fantastic and I am sitting here
and it's like a blast from thepast and I reached out to you to
be on the podcast and I was soexcited that you said yes,
because it's a passion project,not monetized or anything.
But I was looking at my statsrecently and we've got some
listeners around the globe.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Oh, that's great.
That's terrific.
Well, there'll be a lot ofpeople that don't know who I am,
but you know by the end of this.
Maybe they'll know who.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
I am either.
They don't know who I am either, so I love it All right.
So I always start with how wemet.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
So we have to go way back into the 90s, right, and
I'll set the stage.
The year was 1996 and I was inbroadcasting school at the
Connecticut School ofBroadcasting Right, and I was
splicing real because nothingwas digital yet.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
That's correct.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
And for all of our younger listeners around the
globe.
There was no internet.
Oh my gosh, how did we eversurvive without cell phones and
internet?
Somehow we made it through.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
It was such a different medium then, you know,
and it required a differentskill set.
You know you had to be able toedit tape, as you well know, and
work with analog stuff,equipment you know, I know it's
so crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
I see a big collection behind you.
Is that vinyl?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yeah, that's all my records.
I've been collecting recordssince I was probably 15, 16
years old.
I've probably got maybe I don'tknow 5,000 records in here.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
That's insane.
Anybody I know who had vinylthat was worth anything or, like
you know, originals because nowthat you see vinyl, the
resurgence of it, but theoriginals, like you, went to
specs or you went to the recordstore to get the latest release.
Anybody I know who actually hadthem, trashed them at one point
or gave them away.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Right, well, because they're so bulky, you know.
But I just kept mine and Icarried them all over the
country and every radio stationI worked at and I just kept my
collection.
I just love collecting records,you know.
And I've got some real gems inhere.
I mean, there were some ofthese records that were never
released to the public.
They were promo copies thatwere only sent to radio stations
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, and some radio shows, too,that I've got in my collection
that are really, really cool.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
That is just incredible.
So yeah, so back to how we met.
So it was 1996.
I had just finishedbroadcasting school and the
funny thing is I was trying toget an internship and I wanted
the internship as Zeta but therewas no internships available.
So I drove myself down to thestudio in North Miami and I
waltzed in there and I gotmyself an internship at Love 94
(03:05):
with Huck and Jill Ann in themorning, to the jazz station,
but really my heart was at Zetaand I wanted to go be with Paul
and Ron, you know.
And then I was trying to get ajob and the first job that came
up for like I don't know, Ithink I made like eight or $10
an hour was pitiful, wasmetrotraffic.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Right.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
So I started at metrotraffic and then I had the
opportunity to do your traffic.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
And there you were.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
I was trying to find an old air check where I had you
come in and do the traffic, butI couldn't find it.
I went through my cassettetapes I still have, but I
couldn't find anything with youand I on it.
But I did find one with thegirl that replaced you after you
left.
I think her name was Terry,yeah, but it's.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
It's just so funny because I'll never forget I
worked doing traffic for like ayear and I'll never forget when
we had, when we used to haveZetaFest.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
And this is you know before, like such big outdoor
festivals, really became thething that they are today.
They're three day events now,but ZetaFest really pioneered
the the outside festival down inBroward and used to be in
Markham Park and I'll neverforget.
You asked me they're like well,we would like you to do the
traffic live from ZetaFest and Iwas like who the hell cares
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about the traffic on the weekendgoing to the show?
I'm like I guess I'll talkabout the backup entering
Markham Park.
Anyway, I was just excited togo.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
And so I did, and I can't remember who was playing
back in like 1997, but I got tomeet some pretty cool people.
It was so much fun.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
I think it was the Black Crows that had lined that
year.
It might have been the BlackCrows, I think.
We had Faith no more and gosh.
I can't remember all the bands.
It was a band called Spot andLime and I have pictures.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Yeah, I have pictures with those guys and I look at
them.
I'm like I don't know who youare, but I have pictures.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Candlebox also played once in there.
To who yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:04):
You know, I've never seen them and they come down
here all the time they're alwaysat the courtroom and I, for
whatever reason, the timing isalways off for me.
I always miss them.
But so let's get into it,though when, without with the
fear of, you know, datingourselves or making us sound old
, because, let's be clear,neither one of us are old.
I just turned 50.
(05:25):
I am not old, I'm still ateenager.
I still act like one.
But when do you get into radio?
Like, when and how did you getinto radio?
Like, did you just know youalways wanted to work in it?
Because I always knew I wantedto work on the radio.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Well, oh my gosh, you know I was always wanted to be
a rock drummer.
I wanted to play football firstwhen I was a kid, but I wanted
to be a rock drummer and I stilldo play drums.
But I grew up in a small townin South Georgia and a guy who I
went to school with his fatherowned a local radio station
there Now we're talkingAmerica's Georgia population of
about 20,000 people and he wasone of my best friends and we
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hung out on the weekends when hewas on the air.
And it just so happened that Igot to, I started to learn how
to run the equipment and thenext thing, you know, some guy
got in jail or something and itwas an emergency situation.
They needed somebody to run theboard.
So my friend called me oneSunday night and said hey, man,
you know I need you to run theboard tomorrow, can you?
Can you come in and just runthe board?
(06:23):
You know how to do all thestuff, you know play the songs.
And back then we were playing45 records and all the
commercials were on carts and Isaid, sure, I'll do it.
And that was 16 years old andthat's the way I got into radio
and I was so nervous, you know,because I was recording, you
know I had to open the mic andread the PSAs and kind of a cool
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DJ voice which, whatever thatwas, I'm sure I sounded
ridiculous and stupid, but, um,because I you know you're trying
to be cool, right?
You're trying to emulate tryingto emulate all the greats that
you're listening to all the, all, the all the boss jocks that
were on the air.
It's 97 GTR.
You know all the boss jocksthat were on the on the radio at
the time.
(07:05):
But, um, the very first day Iwas ever on the air I would, I
got sick, I came down with viralmeningitis and they had to put
me in the hospital and I was outfor a week and my brother, my
little brother, he came in andtook the job that I was supposed
to get and then when I got outof the hospital I got my job
back.
But that was uh, I'll neverforget that being on the radio
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for the first day I had viralmeningitis, almost died.
I was 16 years old so that isso crazy yeah but we wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
We wouldn't have the story tell any other way but
that was in a small town inGeorgia.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
So that's where I got my start and I just kind of,
you know, stayed with it, youknow, because I kind of really
liked it.
You know I got to where I was,you know, I knew what I was
doing, you know, at leastrunning the playing, the music,
and, and and you know if youcould run the board.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
That was half the battle, because yeah, even if
you got like an, like anovernight boardop job absolutely
of course, before the digitaltimes and before everything was
canned.
But so how did you end up inFlorida?
Speaker 2 (08:09):
so yeah, so my dad, my dad and my dad was originally
from down here and he hadalways wanted to come back to to
Florida.
So, um, when I, when I got myfirst job in America, I was here
for three or four years and butmy family was down here, so I
eventually ended up moving toFort Pierce around 1980 or 81 or
so and, um, I started workingat a radio station there, at a
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rock station, and that's reallywhere I kind of learned how to,
how to be a personality and howto you know, how to do a show,
you know.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Yeah, so what was your name?
Did you have like?
Speaker 2 (08:43):
a.
I never had any other name.
I could, because I couldn'tthink of any other name that I
liked, you know.
So I said I'll just use my ownname, you know.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Because there's so many people out there that you
know that's not their real name.
But back in the day it was likeyou were supposed to have a
weird name A stage name yeah.
A stage name yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Right.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
And you know it was just all these.
It's just crazy to me how it'schanged so much.
So I remember getting fired.
Did you ever get fired from agig and have?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
to move on.
I did yeah.
Yep, I sure did.
I think all of us have thosetails to tell.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Of course I was so heartbroken when I got fired
from doing the traffic and youwere so kind to me, you even
reached out to me and you werelike let's see if we could get
you some part time at Zeta, andI was just so nervous because I
hadn't even ever made an aircheck, I hadn't never even
pursued anything outside of that.
And then I kind of was done for.
And then I got married and Imoved to Port St Lucie and
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that's a whole other thing.
But it never left my soul LikeI always loved the radio.
I was in high school, I wascalling in, I was winning stuff
all the time on the radio.
I was always fangirling overthe DJs.
I had a fan club that I startedin the eighth grade for one of
the DJs at Y100.
I just found that picture theother day.
He let us come to the studio tovisit.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Oh, that's cool.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
I thought it was the biggest deal in the world.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
You know pulling carts, that was one of my jobs.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Well, lydia, you were really good.
I mean you were, you werereally good with, with what your
presence on the air you were,you were fun, you were energetic
, you were, you were really goodand that's why, you know, when
you, when you lost your jobthere, I was trying to help you,
help you continue on with yourjourney, you know.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
I know I didn't have the nerve.
I was like I was just notconfident enough.
But the best part about ourdigital times we live in now is
anybody can have their own talkshow.
Anybody can have their ownpodcast and anybody can do their
own thing.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
But when we really think about the people who have
made it, you know, the ElvisDuran's of the world and the
Howard Stern, it's like.
The funny thing is, though,like and I don't know when you
can recall the giant shift, butit was probably about a good
five to 10 years, I would sayprobably the implementation of
like all the music streamingright.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
When you kind of went down the toilet For sure.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
You know, radio now, or the way it exists as a
commercial radio, is a kind ofan antiquated, you know,
business model, because the onlyway they can make money on
commercial radio is by sellingadvertising.
Right, so you have 10 minutesof content, but they also have
to, you know, get in fiveminutes of advertising to make
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their money.
They don't have a subscriberbase that they pull, you know,
subscription money from, so theonly so it's really tough.
I mean, you know a lot of thekids don't listen to commercial
radio.
They listen to their streamingservices.
I listen to my iPod.
I've got, you know, 10,000.
Well, you see my record library.
I've got 10,000 songs on myiPod.
I just put my iPod on shuffleand that's my music.
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You know, I don't even reallylisten to much radio anymore at
all.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
You know, I think, and if you don't have a long
commute, like before the timeswhere we got used to, you know,
before with the Apple music andbefore all that and the app, so
probably just before the launchreally of the iPhone, you know,
I'm trying to think like Ialmost thought radio was really
dead and then in the last fewyears it's weird because I do
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find myself sometimes listeningto local radio because there's a
few different personalities Ilike and I follow still and I
have noticed it's had some smallsuccesses again down here and I
think a lot of it has to dowith promotions.
And then, of course, anybodythat's trying to win Taylor
Swift tickets to the Ares touris going to show up at your
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remote and is going to show upand prove that they downloaded
the radio app and they're goingto like they got to have some
kind of gimmick, becauseotherwise how do you get people
to listen?
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Well, radio was always supposed to be a local
medium, right Talking to thelocal audience, not, you know,
to somebody, somebody living inWichita, kansas.
You know we were talking aboutthings that are happening in
South Florida and that's thatwas our local connection.
That's where your audience.
What happened was corporatecame in and bought all the
stations, put them all in onebuilding and now they've got
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personalities on the air.
You know, in South Floridathey're also simulcast and Palm
Beach and, you know, inJacksonville and different
markets around the country, andyou really kind of lost that
local connection in that regard.
You know.
So that's, but you know the waythat radio is going to survive
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is by having that localconnection.
You know, by knowing.
You know talking about what'sgoing on locally.
You know where you live andyour community.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Absolutely.
Yeah, I agree 100% and I knowthat.
You know, even if you are inyour car, you have the option of
satellite radio.
I mean, I listen to Hair Nationall the time because I'm
obsessed with 80s hair bands.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
So I love that.
So, yeah, it is rare that Iactually listen to the regular
radio, but there are a couplestations I do like to dial into
every now and then.
Well for me.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
I kind of saw.
I saw the writing on the wall.
I mean, honestly, when I was atZeta in 1999, I got a good
offer to leave and to work foran advertising agency and be a
national voice of Toyota, and Itook that position, that's it.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
That was my exit.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
That was my exit and you know and I parlayed that
into my voiceover business thatI am, that I'm doing now but I
just saw what was happening.
You know that corporate wascoming in and they were walking
people out of the building thathave been there for 20 years and
saying you know, this is yourlast day, you're making too much
money, we're downsizingpositions, we're consolidating
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positions and your position hasbeen, you know, it is obsolete
now and I just I saw the writingon the wall and I knew that was
going to eventually happen toeveryone and it has All of my
good friends and colleagues atone time, you know, been cut or
told they have to do it adifferent way.
So I just, I just saw thewriting on the wall and I didn't
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want to work for the mananymore.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Anyway, you know, I wanted to be my own boss and I
want to talk about the voiceoverbusiness, because so you got
the opportunity to work forToyota.
Do you still do that?
Speaker 2 (15:23):
No, no, no, I mean I do.
I've worked for different,different ad agencies now, but
that was that was.
That was my exit, you know they, they just kind of pushed me
into this business.
You know I was, I was the voiceof WB 39 when I was still
working at Zeta.
But you know I wanted to dovoiceover.
Like I said, I wanted to beself-employed.
I love you know my time is tome, was important.
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You know it's just as valuableas any money they're going to
pay you.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Sure, do you have your own company.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
I do.
Ss voiceover is my company.
My website is ssvoiceovercom.
But you know I'm doingaudiobook narration, radio TV
commercials.
My voice is, you know, reallyall over the world.
I just did a couple ofvoiceovers for a company in
Italy two weeks ago that Iconnected with.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
you know just amazing I love that so much and I
thought about that because youknow there's so many with social
media which we didn't have backthen and I think that social
media connection, so like ifthere was a particular rock dog
you liked and I wanted to followyou and keep in contact with
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you right without social media,we didn't know where you went,
right.
But now we can connect and Icould say oh, okay, I like that
guy.
He's on the air at this time.
I might be able to catch him onthe radio or listen to him, or
maybe he's got a podcast andI'll follow him there, or he's
doing an appearance and I can gosee him.
So that, I think, is whatbrought us back to having that
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local connection and some of thesome of the people have
survived and stood the test oftime and either took a break
whether it was their choice ornot and then kind of came back.
And I think you know eventuallythey have to realize that a lot
of us that are nostalgic forthe old days are still here and
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still wanting that connectionwith those people.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Right, and because that's what we grew up with
right.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Understand that yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
That's what we grew up with.
You know you had your favoritesand you wanted.
You know you wanted to connectwith those people for sure,
exactly.
So I was curious, and socialmedia has done done quite a bit
to keep us all connected too.
But there's a lot of downsideto social media as well.
I don't know if you've seen the, the, the movies, social media
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dilemma, but it's definitelysocial dilemma.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
I didn't watch it but I want to, and I think, every
day I tell myself it's ablessing and a curse because,
like it is my second husband.
We reconnected through Facebook.
Had we didn't reconnect throughFacebook, we wouldn't be
together, but it's like and heused to internet she when WSHE
was in the trailer park.
So we have that in common and wetalk about all our old stories
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and favorite times, meetingpeople and and and like.
Can we just say RIP, sunriseMusical Theater, because I think
all of us wish that and theHollywood Sportatorium would
come back to life.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
So many great memories, so many great shows,
right, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Yeah, so do you have like if I could ask you your top
three?
What are your top threefavorite?
Like memories or interactionswith a band from your time in
radio, or even recently, whoknows?
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Well, I'll tell you one.
When I first got hired at Zetain 1990, I want to say it was
maybe, yeah, I think it was 1990.
I was doing afternoons.
I did afternoons on Zeta forthe last 10 years of my career,
from 90 to 99, when I left.
But in 1990, we were, I wasdoing afternoon drive, kimba was
coming on after me.
I was two to six and she wassix to 10.
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And I was just getting off theair one day and the phone rang
and the guy on the other linesays hey, it's Red Dog.
And I know who Red Dog isbecause I grew up in the South
and Red Dog was the road manager, the tour manager for the
Allman Brothers band.
And I said I said this the RedDog from the Allman Brothers
band.
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He said, yeah, man, it's RedDog.
I'm like well, that's apleasure to talk to you, brother
.
You know.
He's like hey, listen, we'redown here at Criteria Recording,
we're working on a new albumand we've been listening to you
guys and we love your radiostation, you know, because we've
played all the classic rockstuff.
He's like would you guys beinterested in coming down and
listening to a couple of thetracks that were that were
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laying down just to get youropinion.
Now the Allman Brothers had beenbroken up for you know, five
years, you know at least theyhadn't done anything of any
relevance in a long time, sonobody really was kind of into
into them as much anymore.
But we were playing my classicrock, but anyway.
So we said I said, absolutely,that'd be cool.
He said, well, why don't youbring Kimba down and you guys
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come down later tonight andlisten to a couple of tracks?
So when Kimba got off the airat 10, I went down and we jumped
in the car together and wewrote, we drove down to Criteria
I think it was on 151st, 151stI don't remember exactly the
address, but I know it was inMiami.
And so we pulled up the Criteriaand we walk up to the door,
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knock on the door and Red Dogcomes walking out and he says
hey, we got this song.
We guys we want you to hear,but we want you to listen to it
in the car, you know, and he hadit on a cassette.
And Greg Allman comes walkingout behind him and I had never
met Greg Allman in person likethat.
So it's so Red Dog sits in thefront seat and Greg Allman sits
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right there next to him and meand Kimba get in the back seat
and they spark up a joint andthey pop in this cassette of
Good, clean Fun.
And I'm telling you I had topinch myself.
I'm like, is this reallyhappening?
And I heard that song and I waslike, dude, that's great.
And they were like, well, we'redoing a whole record.
And Tom Dowd was the producer.
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Tom Dowd is a legendaryproducer.
Rest in Peace.
What a beautiful man, what agreat, great, great talent.
But he was producing thatrecord and we just got to be
friends with them and when thatalbum came out it was the seven
turns album.
When that record came out, wewent back down for a listening
party and we just got to bereally good friends with them.
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And Dicky Betts gave me a smallnumber and said hey, man, when
the record comes out, I want youto call me and we'll do an
interview.
And I ended up having him onthe air too.
It was just it was.
That was really really a coolExperience, just to hang out
with them during the recordingof that record, you know yeah, I
mean how, how amazing that theywere listening To your oh yeah
yes, yeah they were.
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They were big fans, you know,and they were just but just
super cool.
Southern boys Just just is, youknow, yeah, the fault of the
earth.
He just is.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Now, have you been to any shows recently at the hard
rock live?
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Uh, yeah, yeah, we went to see.
Who do we go see?
Um, I've been.
I went to stars and strings acouple of months back.
Um, who we saw the black crows?
Um, I haven't.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
I was at the black crow show.
I have never Smelt so much weedand vaping in any show in the
hard rock live they took thecake they got.
They got the trophy on that oneand can.
I just say Can I say somethingto you that you're probably not
going to believe, because I justturned 50?
I have never smoked pot.
Really I have never physicallysmoked weed myself.
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I've only breathed it in at thehard rock live.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Do you have this?
Speaker 1 (22:36):
125 million dollars on that place.
The acoustics in there areincredible.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
No the room is beautiful, it sounds great.
The tickets are a little, alittle pricey for me.
I mean, obviously, you know,honestly, lydia, we're used to
paying, you know, 15.
I was just listening to an aircheck from 1999.
We, we did a show down at thethe.
What was it?
The zeta, not the zeta fest, itwas the bonsai show that we did
at bayfront park.
The tickets were 15 dollars andit was letting crabbits and and
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the flies and all these otherbands that we, the tickets were
15 dollars.
You know now they're 300, youknow it's the ticket prices.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Yeah, we're going to guns and roses on the 15th of
september and I said To myhusband first of all you know
what you're going to deal within the crowd.
You know there's going to be aton of weed, because he hates
cigarette smoking, hates tosmoke.
I'm like we already havementally prepared himself for
that but, um we.
I think we spent 400 bucks onthose tickets for two of them
that up for balcony I mean, butjust to be there, although I
(23:38):
have to say I'm a little sadbecause kary underwood is
opening for them and a few shows, and I just wish she was coming
here because yeah.
Oh, she's so talented, um, okay, I.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Well, just just to finish up on the ticket prices,
I think the reason well I knowthe reason that they're charging
so so much now Is becausethey're not making money on
record sales anymore.
People aren't buying records,they're streaming their music
off of.
You know all the streamingservices.
So that's one.
That's the main way really,that a lot of these bands are
Are able to generate revenue.
That and the merchandise thatthey sell.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Yeah, remember the whole.
Naps are like controversy andthat whole deal.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Oh yeah, with people stealing, stealing songs,
trading song, yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Yeah, I mean, is it really that different today?
I mean, I can get the songs.
I mean I do pay for apple musicmonthly, but if you think about
it.
If you're a brand new artist,how?
I mean?
Obviously it's easier to getdiscovered now because you've
got the talent competitions,anybody can put their stuff out
on youtube.
Um, but how are you reallygonna make money if you're just,
(24:40):
you know, an average regularperson?
Yes, and you get to that level.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Yep, that has to be on your live performances mostly
, you know, and the merchandise,yeah, yeah oh, the merch.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Don't even get me started on the merch, because
I'm not paying 40 or 50 or sixdollars for a stupid t-shirt for
a t-shirt, by the way.
To all the merch promoters outthere.
I would pay the.
I would pay for the t-shirt.
There's no qvnex for women,they're all just regular concert
t-shirts.
So cheap gilded shirts that aresix dollars at the lobby lobby.
I don't want it.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
I'm not doing it.
I don't blame you, I don't know.
You're right.
If you're gonna pay 40 bucksfor a t-shirt, it should be a
good quality shirt, you knowthat's right, that'll fit you
and look great on you exactly.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Yeah, give me something good like right so any
other, um any other favorite,like, uh, you know, interactions
with bands or Then.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Then we did one more.
We did.
I did another trip.
I hosted a trip in uh and wewent to.
So it was the Molson ice polarbeach party 1995 and we it was a
nationwide promotion Uh, thatMolson ice was going to send 500
people to the northwestterritory of canada to party
with metallica.
Whole hortney loves band oh mygod, baruchas salt From canada
(25:57):
they're a canadian band andmoist.
So there were four bands thatwere playing at this molson ice
polar beach party and tuc, tyuk,tuc and the northwest territory
of canada.
And if you look on the map it'sthe further, furthermost point.
You can go in northwest, I meanin the northern most in north
america, and still be on land.
I mean it's above the tree line, it's permafrost, it's a, it's
(26:20):
a, it's a wild, wild place.
So the trip was, they were sentof 500 people, but the only way
you could go is to win your wayon the trip.
I got toes, I.
So I took two listeners fromdown here that won down from
down here.
I was, and they had chaperonesfrom all over the country too,
all disjockeys, right.
So I was a chaperone from miamiand we took these two.
(26:40):
So we flew from miami tochicago, chicago to calgary.
We overnighted in calgary andit took another jet to in nuvik,
a little Eskimo village in inthe northwest, which is just
outside of tuc tyuk tuc.
So it actually took us fourflights to get to this concert.
When we land on this gravelrunway it was september, it was
(27:02):
labor day weekend 1995 almostwell now, almost 28 years ago or
whatever Labor day weekend 1995.
And when we landed on thisgravel runway there was no grass
.
I mean, there's nothing greenup there.
The ground's permanently frozen.
You see all these what theycall pingos, and it's permafrost
, they're like mountains of ice.
And we're land in there on thisgravel runway and the pilot
(27:25):
comes on the airplane, he goes.
Okay, ladies and gentlemen,welcome to the molson ice polar
beach party.
If you have any alcohol in yourpossession, please leave it on
the plane.
This is a dry community and ifyou are caught with alcohol in
town they will escort you backto the plane and you will miss
the concert.
We were like Are you kidding me?
(27:47):
This is a molson ice polarbeach party, where's we can't
have any, most no, drinkingnothing.
Nothing With metallica, withmetallica, all right, oh, my god
.
Oh, what, what?
And so somebody obviouslydidn't do their homework, they
didn't do their research on this, on this community, because
it's a dry community.
(28:07):
In the, in the winter time thesun never comes up.
They, it's total, they're,they're depressed, they have to
stay inside.
It's, it's darkness there andin the summer, you know the the,
the sun kind of circles thehorizon.
It was just a wild, wild trip.
So much fun.
We got to meet, meet all thebands, but there was no molson
ice, oh my god.
(28:28):
No beer and and they served us.
They served us.
You know there was nothing likegreen on the on the buffet.
They served us it was allarctic char, which is a form of
salmon that they catch there,and caribou.
The hamburgers were made ofcaribou, which is what they eat.
That's what they eat.
I mean, it's all protein.
Yeah, there was.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Did you ever write a book of all your stories?
Because I feel like you have abook inside you.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Oh god, yeah, well, I've.
You know, I've got a lot ofstories, but and I've had more
than more than one Asked me if Ihad to write a book I do have a
lot of stories.
I don't have to try to rememberall of it.
I've got so much.
But yeah, you know it was.
I would, one day might maybewrite it all down.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Now, do you have a podcast at all or no?
Speaker 2 (29:13):
I mean, you know what I was doing was I was doing a,
uh, a show called StancellCellar, because you see all the
records I have.
I've just pulled out some ofthis old vinyl and play it.
You know, play some of theB-sides.
You know it's on WNRM.
You remember Laura Palmer?
She worked with us at Zeta.
She started her own internetradio station called WNRM.
(29:34):
She did it with the premise ofexposing new rock music NRM,
wnrm, new Rock Music.
She wanted it to be an outletfor new bands to be exposed.
But I haven't done a show in acouple of weeks, but every once
in a while I'll pull the vinyldown and do a show.
(29:54):
Yeah, just to keep at it, youknow, just because it's fun.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
I love that Now when you do that though?
Do you happen to go live onlike Instagram or Facebook or
anything, so we can?
Speaker 2 (30:04):
join.
No, I haven't gone live.
I haven't done that yet.
I could do that, but I haven't.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
I was just curious.
I do know some people like whenthey're on breaks and between
jobs and the business, they'llgo online and look at playing
songs and just chatting, just tokeep up the skill set you know.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
And the voiceover business, though.
Is it just for you, or do yousign people?
Or if somebody wants to getinto voiceover work, what do you
recommend?
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Yeah, I mean for me, well, voiceover is a completely
different animal than we'redoing live radio.
It's, you know, because whenyou're doing voiceover, you're
really communicating in a veryintimate way with one person,
you know, and the voice is justdifferent and it's acting,
(30:52):
though you know it's being ableto take those words off the page
and make them sound, you know,like your own, because people
can hear in your voice what youknow, what your intentions are.
You know if you're able toconvey that, and that's a really
hard skill to master.
And some of the best voiceoverpeople, you know, are actors,
(31:18):
because they know how to actwith their voice, they know how
to get into character.
And it's a different skill setand I've worked with some really
really good coaches that havehelped me, you know, develop my
skill in that regard.
You know I've got like 100 audiobooks on Amazon that I've
recorded.
If you go on Audible and searchmy name, you'll see some of the
books that I've narrated.
(31:38):
But you know it's amazing.
Yeah, it's a lot of fun, I meanit's it's, but it's again, it's
something you have to work at.
It's.
It's not something that youcould.
It's like any business you haveto work at it and get.
Get good to get work.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
So you've been doing that for what about the last 23
years?
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, more than that yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
You have any interesting projects you're
working on now.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
I just just started a book this week that I'm doing.
It's called the Two Pillars,the Two Pillars of Power.
Hold on, let me see.
Yeah, the Two Pillars of PowerRain in your Physical Health and
Mental Health to Superchargeyour Life in Less Than Seven
Days.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
I think we could all use that.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Yeah right.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
I would like to supercharge my life in less than
seven days.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Well, this might be for you.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Like supercharge my life in less than seven days as
well.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Oh my goodness.
This has been so much fun.
I love, I love catching up.
So do you have any otherupcoming shows that you're doing
or any concerts you're going to?
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Yeah, well, we were hoping well, sting's coming.
Sting has always been one of myfavorites.
He's coming next in a couple ofweeks or I think next week.
He's great, great live.
He always has a really goodband.
Yeah, we love.
I love seeing live music.
There's a lot of really goodlocal bands in South Florida
that are amazing that we try toget out and see whenever we have
(33:08):
the chance.
You know so many of them.
You know there's a band I know.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
I would love to actually get to an event where
you are at the same place as me,because either we just meet
each other or I'm like you tagyourself and you were there and
I was like, where was he?
It's so funny.
We go to Casino Danny Beach alot because they have the
tribute bands and after.
Covid, we have nothing buttribute bands and we had no
music and no live music.
(33:32):
So we love to go to the tributebands and support them Go
lefties, whoever's playing stuff, you know.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
They're great.
Yep, those are great.
There's a tribute band I justsaw a couple of weeks ago that
just really blew me away, calledAfter Image.
They do a tribute to Rush.
They do a Rush tribute.
They do all these great Rushsongs.
They are amazing.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Really good.
So that is like one of myhusband's all-time favorite
bands, and we have not been ableto find a good tribute, and so,
after Image, I'm going to writethat down After Image Rush
tribute band.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Well, I just saw them a couple weeks ago.
Yeah, there's a YouTube video.
I guess they posted a YouTubevideo of me getting on stage and
just pumping them up, you know,saying hey, you guys, do you
understand how good this band is?
Yeah, they were really good.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Where did they play?
Because I can't believe Imissed it.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
They played at Cagney's.
I want to say it was threeweeks ago.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Yeah, okay, so I'm going to have to get on that on.
Follow their.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Page too, because I know they're following their
Facebook page are great yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
So good.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Southern Blood too.
Southern Blood, you're seeingthem right.
Yeah, they're good.
Yeah, I have Monster.
You know there's a bunch ofbands Our friend Kenny Wendland
is in.
It's really they're really good, good, yeah, so you have a drum
set at the house.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Do you play?
Speaker 2 (34:45):
I do, yeah, I have my drum set right here.
I got my kick drum is righthere.
Look at the sticker.
Oh, you can see.
Oh, no, the sticker's on theother side, that's.
Can you see it?
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Yeah, that's my kick drum.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
I got a Zeta sticker on the other side.
It's on the other side, yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Well, this has been so much fun going down memory
lane.
Yeah, okay, remind me again, sohappy for you by the way, doing
your podcast.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Good for you.
Oh, thank you, that's so cool.
I did listen to one of yourother episodes.
You're great, you're awesome.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
I don't, you know, it's funny because I do it for
myself and I'm like ah, ifanybody else listens, who cares?
You know, obviously I'd lovemore people to listen, but I
like to have guests and I liketo talk to people, that's the
whole deal Right, well, that was, yeah, that everybody had,
because everybody has a has agood story.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
You know, everybody has a good story and it's
interesting to hear differentpeople's stories.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
I'm fascinated with how other people live.
I'm fascinated with what theydo for a living.
I'm fascinated when you knowone career ends and then
something else starts up, like Iremember when I lived in Port
St Lucie, like the majority ofthe town, worked for one
employer, and when that kind ofwent downhill it was like, oh my
God, what are we all going todo for work?
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Yes, what was Lydia?
What was that company?
What was it?
Speaker 1 (36:03):
It was Liberty Medical.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Liberty Medical.
But there was another digitalcompany, a digital domain or
something that was there.
They were going to hire allthese people from California and
that all fell through.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
you know it all fell apart and a lot of people, I
know, when it got jobs there andthey were so excited and it was
a bay.
I think it was Michael Bay'scompany or something.
The guy who did Mimee Lice andit was like I probably screwed
up his name, but yeah, it wassupposed to have all this hope
and promise and like thatteaming career there, because
there was like a bunch of taxadvantages to being in that
(36:36):
county.
And then all of a sudden it fellthrough and I was like, wow,
you know I went into teaching.
So I was fine.
Like you know, I went intoteaching and education and then
I ended up teaching TVproduction and broadcast
journalism, which is, of course,my passion.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Yeah cool, yeah Perfect.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
I love the news, I love radio, I love entertainment
, so it's good.
So, yeah, I'm gonna put thisout, probably I don't know in a
week or two.
Thank you for being here.
Do not hang up.
Do not hang up.
And welcome back to this week's episode.
Did we just become best friends?
Steve Stantzall.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Hi, Lydia.
Yes, we did.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Like here you are.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Oh my gosh, I am fantastic and I am sitting here
and it's like a blast from thepast and I reached out to you to
be on the podcast and I was soexcited that you said yes,
because it's a passion project,not monetized or anything.
But I was looking at my statsrecently and we've got some
listeners around the globe.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Oh, that's great.
That's terrific.
Well, there'll be a lot ofpeople that don't know who I am,
but you know by the end of this.
Maybe they'll know who.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
I am either.
They don't know who I am either, so I love it All right.
So I always start with how wemet.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
So we have to go way back into the 90s, right, and
I'll set the stage.
The year was 1996 and I was inbroadcasting school at the
Connecticut School ofBroadcasting Right, and I was
splicing real because nothingwas digital yet.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
That's correct.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
And for all of our younger listeners around the
globe.
There was no internet.
Oh my gosh, how did we eversurvive without cell phones and
internet?
Somehow we made it through.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
It was such a different medium then, you know,
and it required a differentskill set.
You know you had to be able toedit tape, as you well know, and
work with analog stuff,equipment you know, I know it's
so crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
I see a big collection behind you.
Is that vinyl?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yeah, that's all my records.
I've been collecting recordssince I was probably 15, 16
years old.
I've probably got maybe I don'tknow 5,000 records in here.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
That's insane.
Anybody I know who had vinylthat was worth anything or, like
you know, originals because nowthat you see vinyl, the
resurgence of it, but theoriginals, like you, went to
specs or you went to the recordstore to get the latest release.
Anybody I know who actually hadthem, trashed them at one point
or gave them away.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Right, well, because they're so bulky, you know.
But I just kept mine and Icarried them all over the
country and every radio stationI worked at and I just kept my
collection.
I just love collecting records,you know.
And I've got some real gems inhere.
I mean, there were some ofthese records that were never
released to the public.
They were promo copies thatwere only sent to radio stations
(02:36):
, and some radio shows, too,that I've got in my collection
that are really, really cool.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
That is just incredible.
So yeah, so back to how we met.
So it was 1996.
I had just finishedbroadcasting school and the
funny thing is I was trying toget an internship and I wanted
the internship as Zeta but therewas no internships available.
So I drove myself down to thestudio in North Miami and I
waltzed in there and I gotmyself an internship at Love 94
(03:05):
with Huck and Jill Ann in themorning, to the jazz station,
but really my heart was at Zetaand I wanted to go be with Paul
and Ron, you know.
And then I was trying to get ajob and the first job that came
up for like I don't know, Ithink I made like eight or $10
an hour was pitiful, wasmetrotraffic.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Right.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
So I started at metrotraffic and then I had the
opportunity to do your traffic.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
And there you were.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
I was trying to find an old air check where I had you
come in and do the traffic, butI couldn't find it.
I went through my cassettetapes I still have, but I
couldn't find anything with youand I on it.
But I did find one with thegirl that replaced you after you
left.
I think her name was Terry,yeah, but it's.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
It's just so funny because I'll never forget I
worked doing traffic for like ayear and I'll never forget when
we had, when we used to haveZetaFest.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
And this is you know before, like such big outdoor
festivals, really became thething that they are today.
They're three day events now,but ZetaFest really pioneered
the the outside festival down inBroward and used to be in
Markham Park and I'll neverforget.
You asked me they're like well,we would like you to do the
traffic live from ZetaFest and Iwas like who the hell cares
(04:26):
about the traffic on the weekendgoing to the show?
I'm like I guess I'll talkabout the backup entering
Markham Park.
Anyway, I was just excited togo.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
And so I did, and I can't remember who was playing
back in like 1997, but I got tomeet some pretty cool people.
It was so much fun.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
I think it was the Black Crows that had lined that
year.
It might have been the BlackCrows, I think.
We had Faith no more and gosh.
I can't remember all the bands.
It was a band called Spot andLime and I have pictures.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Yeah, I have pictures with those guys and I look at
them.
I'm like I don't know who youare, but I have pictures.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Candlebox also played once in there.
To who yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:04):
You know, I've never seen them and they come down
here all the time they're alwaysat the courtroom and I, for
whatever reason, the timing isalways off for me.
I always miss them.
But so let's get into it,though when, without with the
fear of, you know, datingourselves or making us sound old
, because, let's be clear,neither one of us are old.
I just turned 50.
(05:25):
I am not old, I'm still ateenager.
I still act like one.
But when do you get into radio?
Like, when and how did you getinto radio?
Like, did you just know youalways wanted to work in it?
Because I always knew I wantedto work on the radio.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Well, oh my gosh, you know I was always wanted to be
a rock drummer.
I wanted to play football firstwhen I was a kid, but I wanted
to be a rock drummer and I stilldo play drums.
But I grew up in a small townin South Georgia and a guy who I
went to school with his fatherowned a local radio station
there Now we're talkingAmerica's Georgia population of
about 20,000 people and he wasone of my best friends and we
(06:02):
hung out on the weekends when hewas on the air.
And it just so happened that Igot to, I started to learn how
to run the equipment and thenext thing, you know, some guy
got in jail or something and itwas an emergency situation.
They needed somebody to run theboard.
So my friend called me oneSunday night and said hey, man,
you know I need you to run theboard tomorrow, can you?
Can you come in and just runthe board?
(06:23):
You know how to do all thestuff, you know play the songs.
And back then we were playing45 records and all the
commercials were on carts and Isaid, sure, I'll do it.
And that was 16 years old andthat's the way I got into radio
and I was so nervous, you know,because I was recording, you
know I had to open the mic andread the PSAs and kind of a cool
(06:45):
DJ voice which, whatever thatwas, I'm sure I sounded
ridiculous and stupid, but, um,because I you know you're trying
to be cool, right?
You're trying to emulate tryingto emulate all the greats that
you're listening to all the, all, the all the boss jocks that
were on the air.
It's 97 GTR.
You know all the boss jocksthat were on the on the radio at
the time.
(07:05):
But, um, the very first day Iwas ever on the air I would, I
got sick, I came down with viralmeningitis and they had to put
me in the hospital and I was outfor a week and my brother, my
little brother, he came in andtook the job that I was supposed
to get and then when I got outof the hospital I got my job
back.
But that was uh, I'll neverforget that being on the radio
(07:25):
for the first day I had viralmeningitis, almost died.
I was 16 years old so that isso crazy yeah but we wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
We wouldn't have the story tell any other way but
that was in a small town inGeorgia.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
So that's where I got my start and I just kind of,
you know, stayed with it, youknow, because I kind of really
liked it.
You know I got to where I was,you know, I knew what I was
doing, you know, at leastrunning the playing, the music,
and, and and you know if youcould run the board.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
That was half the battle, because yeah, even if
you got like an, like anovernight boardop job absolutely
of course, before the digitaltimes and before everything was
canned.
But so how did you end up inFlorida?
Speaker 2 (08:09):
so yeah, so my dad, my dad and my dad was originally
from down here and he hadalways wanted to come back to to
Florida.
So, um, when I, when I got myfirst job in America, I was here
for three or four years and butmy family was down here, so I
eventually ended up moving toFort Pierce around 1980 or 81 or
so and, um, I started workingat a radio station there, at a
(08:32):
rock station, and that's reallywhere I kind of learned how to,
how to be a personality and howto you know, how to do a show,
you know.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Yeah, so what was your name?
Did you have like?
Speaker 2 (08:43):
a.
I never had any other name.
I could, because I couldn'tthink of any other name that I
liked, you know.
So I said I'll just use my ownname, you know.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Because there's so many people out there that you
know that's not their real name.
But back in the day it was likeyou were supposed to have a
weird name A stage name yeah.
A stage name yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Right.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
And you know it was just all these.
It's just crazy to me how it'schanged so much.
So I remember getting fired.
Did you ever get fired from agig and have?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
to move on.
I did yeah.
Yep, I sure did.
I think all of us have thosetails to tell.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Of course I was so heartbroken when I got fired
from doing the traffic and youwere so kind to me, you even
reached out to me and you werelike let's see if we could get
you some part time at Zeta, andI was just so nervous because I
hadn't even ever made an aircheck, I hadn't never even
pursued anything outside of that.
And then I kind of was done for.
And then I got married and Imoved to Port St Lucie and
(09:44):
that's a whole other thing.
But it never left my soul LikeI always loved the radio.
I was in high school, I wascalling in, I was winning stuff
all the time on the radio.
I was always fangirling overthe DJs.
I had a fan club that I startedin the eighth grade for one of
the DJs at Y100.
I just found that picture theother day.
He let us come to the studio tovisit.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Oh, that's cool.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
I thought it was the biggest deal in the world.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
You know pulling carts, that was one of my jobs.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Well, lydia, you were really good.
I mean you were, you werereally good with, with what your
presence on the air you were,you were fun, you were energetic
, you were, you were really goodand that's why, you know, when
you, when you lost your jobthere, I was trying to help you,
help you continue on with yourjourney, you know.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
I know I didn't have the nerve.
I was like I was just notconfident enough.
But the best part about ourdigital times we live in now is
anybody can have their own talkshow.
Anybody can have their ownpodcast and anybody can do their
own thing.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
But when we really think about the people who have
made it, you know, the ElvisDuran's of the world and the
Howard Stern, it's like.
The funny thing is, though,like and I don't know when you
can recall the giant shift, butit was probably about a good
five to 10 years, I would sayprobably the implementation of
like all the music streamingright.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
When you kind of went down the toilet For sure.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
You know, radio now, or the way it exists as a
commercial radio, is a kind ofan antiquated, you know,
business model, because the onlyway they can make money on
commercial radio is by sellingadvertising.
Right, so you have 10 minutesof content, but they also have
to, you know, get in fiveminutes of advertising to make
(11:27):
their money.
They don't have a subscriberbase that they pull, you know,
subscription money from, so theonly so it's really tough.
I mean, you know a lot of thekids don't listen to commercial
radio.
They listen to their streamingservices.
I listen to my iPod.
I've got, you know, 10,000.
Well, you see my record library.
I've got 10,000 songs on myiPod.
I just put my iPod on shuffleand that's my music.
(11:49):
You know, I don't even reallylisten to much radio anymore at
all.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
You know, I think, and if you don't have a long
commute, like before the timeswhere we got used to, you know,
before with the Apple music andbefore all that and the app, so
probably just before the launchreally of the iPhone, you know,
I'm trying to think like Ialmost thought radio was really
dead and then in the last fewyears it's weird because I do
(12:18):
find myself sometimes listeningto local radio because there's a
few different personalities Ilike and I follow still and I
have noticed it's had some smallsuccesses again down here and I
think a lot of it has to dowith promotions.
And then, of course, anybodythat's trying to win Taylor
Swift tickets to the Ares touris going to show up at your
(12:39):
remote and is going to show upand prove that they downloaded
the radio app and they're goingto like they got to have some
kind of gimmick, becauseotherwise how do you get people
to listen?
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Well, radio was always supposed to be a local
medium, right Talking to thelocal audience, not, you know,
to somebody, somebody living inWichita, kansas.
You know we were talking aboutthings that are happening in
South Florida and that's thatwas our local connection.
That's where your audience.
What happened was corporatecame in and bought all the
stations, put them all in onebuilding and now they've got
(13:10):
personalities on the air.
You know, in South Floridathey're also simulcast and Palm
Beach and, you know, inJacksonville and different
markets around the country, andyou really kind of lost that
local connection in that regard.
You know.
So that's, but you know the waythat radio is going to survive
(13:31):
is by having that localconnection.
You know, by knowing.
You know talking about what'sgoing on locally.
You know where you live andyour community.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Absolutely.
Yeah, I agree 100% and I knowthat.
You know, even if you are inyour car, you have the option of
satellite radio.
I mean, I listen to Hair Nationall the time because I'm
obsessed with 80s hair bands.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
So I love that.
So, yeah, it is rare that Iactually listen to the regular
radio, but there are a couplestations I do like to dial into
every now and then.
Well for me.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
I kind of saw.
I saw the writing on the wall.
I mean, honestly, when I was atZeta in 1999, I got a good
offer to leave and to work foran advertising agency and be a
national voice of Toyota, and Itook that position, that's it.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
That was my exit.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
That was my exit and you know and I parlayed that
into my voiceover business thatI am, that I'm doing now but I
just saw what was happening.
You know that corporate wascoming in and they were walking
people out of the building thathave been there for 20 years and
saying you know, this is yourlast day, you're making too much
money, we're downsizingpositions, we're consolidating
(14:49):
positions and your position hasbeen, you know, it is obsolete
now and I just I saw the writingon the wall and I knew that was
going to eventually happen toeveryone and it has All of my
good friends and colleagues atone time, you know, been cut or
told they have to do it adifferent way.
So I just, I just saw thewriting on the wall and I didn't
(15:11):
want to work for the mananymore.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Anyway, you know, I wanted to be my own boss and I
want to talk about the voiceoverbusiness, because so you got
the opportunity to work forToyota.
Do you still do that?
Speaker 2 (15:23):
No, no, no, I mean I do.
I've worked for different,different ad agencies now, but
that was that was.
That was my exit, you know they, they just kind of pushed me
into this business.
You know I was, I was the voiceof WB 39 when I was still
working at Zeta.
But you know I wanted to dovoiceover.
Like I said, I wanted to beself-employed.
I love you know my time is tome, was important.
(15:46):
You know it's just as valuableas any money they're going to
pay you.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Sure, do you have your own company.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
I do.
Ss voiceover is my company.
My website is ssvoiceovercom.
But you know I'm doingaudiobook narration, radio TV
commercials.
My voice is, you know, reallyall over the world.
I just did a couple ofvoiceovers for a company in
Italy two weeks ago that Iconnected with.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
you know just amazing I love that so much and I
thought about that because youknow there's so many with social
media which we didn't have backthen and I think that social
media connection, so like ifthere was a particular rock dog
you liked and I wanted to followyou and keep in contact with
(16:31):
you right without social media,we didn't know where you went,
right.
But now we can connect and Icould say oh, okay, I like that
guy.
He's on the air at this time.
I might be able to catch him onthe radio or listen to him, or
maybe he's got a podcast andI'll follow him there, or he's
doing an appearance and I can gosee him.
So that, I think, is whatbrought us back to having that
(16:54):
local connection and some of thesome of the people have
survived and stood the test oftime and either took a break
whether it was their choice ornot and then kind of came back.
And I think you know eventuallythey have to realize that a lot
of us that are nostalgic forthe old days are still here and
(17:14):
still wanting that connectionwith those people.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Right, and because that's what we grew up with
right.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Understand that yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
That's what we grew up with.
You know you had your favoritesand you wanted.
You know you wanted to connectwith those people for sure,
exactly.
So I was curious, and socialmedia has done done quite a bit
to keep us all connected too.
But there's a lot of downsideto social media as well.
I don't know if you've seen the, the, the movies, social media
(17:42):
dilemma, but it's definitelysocial dilemma.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
I didn't watch it but I want to, and I think, every
day I tell myself it's ablessing and a curse because,
like it is my second husband.
We reconnected through Facebook.
Had we didn't reconnect throughFacebook, we wouldn't be
together, but it's like and heused to internet she when WSHE
was in the trailer park.
So we have that in common and wetalk about all our old stories
(18:07):
and favorite times, meetingpeople and and and like.
Can we just say RIP, sunriseMusical Theater, because I think
all of us wish that and theHollywood Sportatorium would
come back to life.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
So many great memories, so many great shows,
right, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Yeah, so do you have like if I could ask you your top
three?
What are your top threefavorite?
Like memories or interactionswith a band from your time in
radio, or even recently, whoknows?
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Well, I'll tell you one.
When I first got hired at Zetain 1990, I want to say it was
maybe, yeah, I think it was 1990.
I was doing afternoons.
I did afternoons on Zeta forthe last 10 years of my career,
from 90 to 99, when I left.
But in 1990, we were, I wasdoing afternoon drive, kimba was
coming on after me.
I was two to six and she wassix to 10.
(18:57):
And I was just getting off theair one day and the phone rang
and the guy on the other linesays hey, it's Red Dog.
And I know who Red Dog isbecause I grew up in the South
and Red Dog was the road manager, the tour manager for the
Allman Brothers band.
And I said I said this the RedDog from the Allman Brothers
band.
(19:17):
He said, yeah, man, it's RedDog.
I'm like well, that's apleasure to talk to you, brother
.
You know.
He's like hey, listen, we'redown here at Criteria Recording,
we're working on a new albumand we've been listening to you
guys and we love your radiostation, you know, because we've
played all the classic rockstuff.
He's like would you guys beinterested in coming down and
listening to a couple of thetracks that were that were
(19:40):
laying down just to get youropinion.
Now the Allman Brothers had beenbroken up for you know, five
years, you know at least theyhadn't done anything of any
relevance in a long time, sonobody really was kind of into
into them as much anymore.
But we were playing my classicrock, but anyway.
So we said I said, absolutely,that'd be cool.
He said, well, why don't youbring Kimba down and you guys
(20:01):
come down later tonight andlisten to a couple of tracks?
So when Kimba got off the airat 10, I went down and we jumped
in the car together and wewrote, we drove down to Criteria
I think it was on 151st, 151stI don't remember exactly the
address, but I know it was inMiami.
And so we pulled up the Criteriaand we walk up to the door,
(20:22):
knock on the door and Red Dogcomes walking out and he says
hey, we got this song.
We guys we want you to hear,but we want you to listen to it
in the car, you know, and he hadit on a cassette.
And Greg Allman comes walkingout behind him and I had never
met Greg Allman in person likethat.
So it's so Red Dog sits in thefront seat and Greg Allman sits
(20:43):
right there next to him and meand Kimba get in the back seat
and they spark up a joint andthey pop in this cassette of
Good, clean Fun.
And I'm telling you I had topinch myself.
I'm like, is this reallyhappening?
And I heard that song and I waslike, dude, that's great.
And they were like, well, we'redoing a whole record.
And Tom Dowd was the producer.
(21:03):
Tom Dowd is a legendaryproducer.
Rest in Peace.
What a beautiful man, what agreat, great, great talent.
But he was producing thatrecord and we just got to be
friends with them and when thatalbum came out it was the seven
turns album.
When that record came out, wewent back down for a listening
party and we just got to bereally good friends with them.
(21:23):
And Dicky Betts gave me a smallnumber and said hey, man, when
the record comes out, I want youto call me and we'll do an
interview.
And I ended up having him onthe air too.
It was just it was.
That was really really a coolExperience, just to hang out
with them during the recordingof that record, you know yeah, I
mean how, how amazing that theywere listening To your oh yeah
yes, yeah they were.
(21:45):
They were big fans, you know,and they were just but just
super cool.
Southern boys Just just is, youknow, yeah, the fault of the
earth.
He just is.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Now, have you been to any shows recently at the hard
rock live?
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Uh, yeah, yeah, we went to see.
Who do we go see?
Um, I've been.
I went to stars and strings acouple of months back.
Um, who we saw the black crows?
Um, I haven't.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
I was at the black crow show.
I have never Smelt so much weedand vaping in any show in the
hard rock live they took thecake they got.
They got the trophy on that oneand can.
I just say Can I say somethingto you that you're probably not
going to believe, because I justturned 50?
I have never smoked pot.
Really I have never physicallysmoked weed myself.
(22:30):
I've only breathed it in at thehard rock live.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Do you have this?
Speaker 1 (22:36):
125 million dollars on that place.
The acoustics in there areincredible.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
No the room is beautiful, it sounds great.
The tickets are a little, alittle pricey for me.
I mean, obviously, you know,honestly, lydia, we're used to
paying, you know, 15.
I was just listening to an aircheck from 1999.
We, we did a show down at thethe.
What was it?
The zeta, not the zeta fest, itwas the bonsai show that we did
at bayfront park.
The tickets were 15 dollars andit was letting crabbits and and
(23:04):
the flies and all these otherbands that we, the tickets were
15 dollars.
You know now they're 300, youknow it's the ticket prices.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Yeah, we're going to guns and roses on the 15th of
september and I said To myhusband first of all you know
what you're going to deal within the crowd.
You know there's going to be aton of weed, because he hates
cigarette smoking, hates tosmoke.
I'm like we already havementally prepared himself for
that but, um we.
I think we spent 400 bucks onthose tickets for two of them
that up for balcony I mean, butjust to be there, although I
(23:38):
have to say I'm a little sadbecause kary underwood is
opening for them and a few shows, and I just wish she was coming
here because yeah.
Oh, she's so talented, um, okay, I.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Well, just just to finish up on the ticket prices,
I think the reason well I knowthe reason that they're charging
so so much now Is becausethey're not making money on
record sales anymore.
People aren't buying records,they're streaming their music
off of.
You know all the streamingservices.
So that's one.
That's the main way really,that a lot of these bands are
Are able to generate revenue.
That and the merchandise thatthey sell.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Yeah, remember the whole.
Naps are like controversy andthat whole deal.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Oh yeah, with people stealing, stealing songs,
trading song, yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Yeah, I mean, is it really that different today?
I mean, I can get the songs.
I mean I do pay for apple musicmonthly, but if you think about
it.
If you're a brand new artist,how?
I mean?
Obviously it's easier to getdiscovered now because you've
got the talent competitions,anybody can put their stuff out
on youtube.
Um, but how are you reallygonna make money if you're just,
(24:40):
you know, an average regularperson?
Yes, and you get to that level.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Yep, that has to be on your live performances mostly
, you know, and the merchandise,yeah, yeah oh, the merch.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Don't even get me started on the merch, because
I'm not paying 40 or 50 or sixdollars for a stupid t-shirt for
a t-shirt, by the way.
To all the merch promoters outthere.
I would pay the.
I would pay for the t-shirt.
There's no qvnex for women,they're all just regular concert
t-shirts.
So cheap gilded shirts that aresix dollars at the lobby lobby.
I don't want it.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
I'm not doing it.
I don't blame you, I don't know.
You're right.
If you're gonna pay 40 bucksfor a t-shirt, it should be a
good quality shirt, you knowthat's right, that'll fit you
and look great on you exactly.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Yeah, give me something good like right so any
other, um any other favorite,like, uh, you know, interactions
with bands or Then.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Then we did one more.
We did.
I did another trip.
I hosted a trip in uh and wewent to.
So it was the Molson ice polarbeach party 1995 and we it was a
nationwide promotion Uh, thatMolson ice was going to send 500
people to the northwestterritory of canada to party
with metallica.
Whole hortney loves band oh mygod, baruchas salt From canada
(25:57):
they're a canadian band andmoist.
So there were four bands thatwere playing at this molson ice
polar beach party and tuc, tyuk,tuc and the northwest territory
of canada.
And if you look on the map it'sthe further, furthermost point.
You can go in northwest, I meanin the northern most in north
america, and still be on land.
I mean it's above the tree line, it's permafrost, it's a, it's
(26:20):
a, it's a wild, wild place.
So the trip was, they were sentof 500 people, but the only way
you could go is to win your wayon the trip.
I got toes, I.
So I took two listeners fromdown here that won down from
down here.
I was, and they had chaperonesfrom all over the country too,
all disjockeys, right.
So I was a chaperone from miamiand we took these two.
(26:40):
So we flew from miami tochicago, chicago to calgary.
We overnighted in calgary andit took another jet to in nuvik,
a little Eskimo village in inthe northwest, which is just
outside of tuc tyuk tuc.
So it actually took us fourflights to get to this concert.
When we land on this gravelrunway it was september, it was
(27:02):
labor day weekend 1995 almostwell now, almost 28 years ago or
whatever Labor day weekend 1995.
And when we landed on thisgravel runway there was no grass
.
I mean, there's nothing greenup there.
The ground's permanently frozen.
You see all these what theycall pingos, and it's permafrost
, they're like mountains of ice.
And we're land in there on thisgravel runway and the pilot
(27:25):
comes on the airplane, he goes.
Okay, ladies and gentlemen,welcome to the molson ice polar
beach party.
If you have any alcohol in yourpossession, please leave it on
the plane.
This is a dry community and ifyou are caught with alcohol in
town they will escort you backto the plane and you will miss
the concert.
We were like Are you kidding me?
(27:47):
This is a molson ice polarbeach party, where's we can't
have any, most no, drinkingnothing.
Nothing With metallica, withmetallica, all right, oh, my god
.
Oh, what, what?
And so somebody obviouslydidn't do their homework, they
didn't do their research on this, on this community, because
it's a dry community.
(28:07):
In the, in the winter time thesun never comes up.
They, it's total, they're,they're depressed, they have to
stay inside.
It's, it's darkness there andin the summer, you know the the,
the sun kind of circles thehorizon.
It was just a wild, wild trip.
So much fun.
We got to meet, meet all thebands, but there was no molson
ice, oh my god.
(28:28):
No beer and and they served us.
They served us.
You know there was nothing likegreen on the on the buffet.
They served us it was allarctic char, which is a form of
salmon that they catch there,and caribou.
The hamburgers were made ofcaribou, which is what they eat.
That's what they eat.
I mean, it's all protein.
Yeah, there was.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Did you ever write a book of all your stories?
Because I feel like you have abook inside you.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Oh god, yeah, well, I've.
You know, I've got a lot ofstories, but and I've had more
than more than one Asked me if Ihad to write a book I do have a
lot of stories.
I don't have to try to rememberall of it.
I've got so much.
But yeah, you know it was.
I would, one day might maybewrite it all down.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Now, do you have a podcast at all or no?
Speaker 2 (29:13):
I mean, you know what I was doing was I was doing a,
uh, a show called StancellCellar, because you see all the
records I have.
I've just pulled out some ofthis old vinyl and play it.
You know, play some of theB-sides.
You know it's on WNRM.
You remember Laura Palmer?
She worked with us at Zeta.
She started her own internetradio station called WNRM.
(29:34):
She did it with the premise ofexposing new rock music NRM,
wnrm, new Rock Music.
She wanted it to be an outletfor new bands to be exposed.
But I haven't done a show in acouple of weeks, but every once
in a while I'll pull the vinyldown and do a show.
(29:54):
Yeah, just to keep at it, youknow, just because it's fun.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
I love that Now when you do that though?
Do you happen to go live onlike Instagram or Facebook or
anything, so we can?
Speaker 2 (30:04):
join.
No, I haven't gone live.
I haven't done that yet.
I could do that, but I haven't.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
I was just curious.
I do know some people like whenthey're on breaks and between
jobs and the business, they'llgo online and look at playing
songs and just chatting, just tokeep up the skill set you know.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
And the voiceover business, though.
Is it just for you, or do yousign people?
Or if somebody wants to getinto voiceover work, what do you
recommend?
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Yeah, I mean for me, well, voiceover is a completely
different animal than we'redoing live radio.
It's, you know, because whenyou're doing voiceover, you're
really communicating in a veryintimate way with one person,
you know, and the voice is justdifferent and it's acting,
(30:52):
though you know it's being ableto take those words off the page
and make them sound, you know,like your own, because people
can hear in your voice what youknow, what your intentions are.
You know if you're able toconvey that, and that's a really
hard skill to master.
And some of the best voiceoverpeople, you know, are actors,
(31:18):
because they know how to actwith their voice, they know how
to get into character.
And it's a different skill setand I've worked with some really
really good coaches that havehelped me, you know, develop my
skill in that regard.
You know I've got like 100 audiobooks on Amazon that I've
recorded.
If you go on Audible and searchmy name, you'll see some of the
books that I've narrated.
(31:38):
But you know it's amazing.
Yeah, it's a lot of fun, I meanit's it's, but it's again, it's
something you have to work at.
It's.
It's not something that youcould.
It's like any business you haveto work at it and get.
Get good to get work.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
So you've been doing that for what about the last 23
years?
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, more than that yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
You have any interesting projects you're
working on now.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
I just just started a book this week that I'm doing.
It's called the Two Pillars,the Two Pillars of Power.
Hold on, let me see.
Yeah, the Two Pillars of PowerRain in your Physical Health and
Mental Health to Superchargeyour Life in Less Than Seven
Days.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
I think we could all use that.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Yeah right.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
I would like to supercharge my life in less than
seven days.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Well, this might be for you.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Like supercharge my life in less than seven days as
well.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Oh my goodness.
This has been so much fun.
I love, I love catching up.
So do you have any otherupcoming shows that you're doing
or any concerts you're going to?
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Yeah, well, we were hoping well, sting's coming.
Sting has always been one of myfavorites.
He's coming next in a couple ofweeks or I think next week.
He's great, great live.
He always has a really goodband.
Yeah, we love.
I love seeing live music.
There's a lot of really goodlocal bands in South Florida
that are amazing that we try toget out and see whenever we have
(33:08):
the chance.
You know so many of them.
You know there's a band I know.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
I would love to actually get to an event where
you are at the same place as me,because either we just meet
each other or I'm like you tagyourself and you were there and
I was like, where was he?
It's so funny.
We go to Casino Danny Beach alot because they have the
tribute bands and after.
Covid, we have nothing buttribute bands and we had no
music and no live music.
(33:32):
So we love to go to the tributebands and support them Go
lefties, whoever's playing stuff, you know.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
They're great.
Yep, those are great.
There's a tribute band I justsaw a couple of weeks ago that
just really blew me away, calledAfter Image.
They do a tribute to Rush.
They do a Rush tribute.
They do all these great Rushsongs.
They are amazing.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Really good.
So that is like one of myhusband's all-time favorite
bands, and we have not been ableto find a good tribute, and so,
after Image, I'm going to writethat down After Image Rush
tribute band.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Well, I just saw them a couple weeks ago.
Yeah, there's a YouTube video.
I guess they posted a YouTubevideo of me getting on stage and
just pumping them up, you know,saying hey, you guys, do you
understand how good this band is?
Yeah, they were really good.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Where did they play?
Because I can't believe Imissed it.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
They played at Cagney's.
I want to say it was threeweeks ago.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Yeah, okay, so I'm going to have to get on that on.
Follow their.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Page too, because I know they're following their
Facebook page are great yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
So good.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Southern Blood too.
Southern Blood, you're seeingthem right.
Yeah, they're good.
Yeah, I have Monster.
You know there's a bunch ofbands Our friend Kenny Wendland
is in.
It's really they're really good, good, yeah, so you have a drum
set at the house.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Do you play?
Speaker 2 (34:45):
I do, yeah, I have my drum set right here.
I got my kick drum is righthere.
Look at the sticker.
Oh, you can see.
Oh, no, the sticker's on theother side, that's.
Can you see it?
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Yeah, that's my kick drum.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
I got a Zeta sticker on the other side.
It's on the other side, yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Well, this has been so much fun going down memory
lane.
Yeah, okay, remind me again, sohappy for you by the way, doing
your podcast.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Good for you.
Oh, thank you, that's so cool.
I did listen to one of yourother episodes.
You're great, you're awesome.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
I don't, you know, it's funny because I do it for
myself and I'm like ah, ifanybody else listens, who cares?
You know, obviously I'd lovemore people to listen, but I
like to have guests and I liketo talk to people, that's the
whole deal Right, well, that was, yeah, that everybody had,
because everybody has a has agood story.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
You know, everybody has a good story and it's
interesting to hear differentpeople's stories.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
I'm fascinated with how other people live.
I'm fascinated with what theydo for a living.
I'm fascinated when you knowone career ends and then
something else starts up, like Iremember when I lived in Port
St Lucie, like the majority ofthe town, worked for one
employer, and when that kind ofwent downhill it was like, oh my
God, what are we all going todo for work?
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Yes, what was Lydia?
What was that company?
What was it?
Speaker 1 (36:03):
It was Liberty Medical.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Liberty Medical.
But there was another digitalcompany, a digital domain or
something that was there.
They were going to hire allthese people from California and
that all fell through.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
you know it all fell apart and a lot of people, I
know, when it got jobs there andthey were so excited and it was
a bay.
I think it was Michael Bay'scompany or something.
The guy who did Mimee Lice andit was like I probably screwed
up his name, but yeah, it wassupposed to have all this hope
and promise and like thatteaming career there, because
there was like a bunch of taxadvantages to being in that
(36:36):
county.
And then all of a sudden it fellthrough and I was like, wow,
you know I went into teaching.
So I was fine.
Like you know, I went intoteaching and education and then
I ended up teaching TVproduction and broadcast
journalism, which is, of course,my passion.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Yeah cool, yeah Perfect.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
I love the news, I love radio, I love entertainment
, so it's good.
So, yeah, I'm gonna put thisout, probably I don't know in a
week or two.
Thank you for being here.
Do not hang up.
Do not hang up.
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