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July 17, 2025 34 mins

Today’s episode is a solo talk as we get ready for vacation. We’ll be gone for a few weeks, then return with the second half of Season 3. This conversation is focused on the panic, fear, and emotional heaviness that so many people are carrying right now—especially those who are neurodivergent, highly empathetic, or deeply tuned into justice and suffering in the world.


For a lot of us, the pain feels inescapable. Whether it’s because of our neurodivergence, race, gender, sexuality, religion, or just being human, many people are feeling overwhelmed and helpless. There’s a shared exhaustion—a quiet suffering happening beneath the surface for folks who carry big hearts and feel deeply.


When the World Is Too Much

My clients are feeling it. I’m feeling it. You’re probably feeling it too. The non-stop exposure to global tragedies, violence, war, and oppression through social media is emotionally flooding people. Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, YouTube—these platforms keep delivering trauma through our feeds. The more we see, the worse we feel.


The Spiral of Anxiety and OCD

Many neurodivergent folks already deal with obsessive thinking and high anxiety. Add in the doomscrolling and constant bad news, and it becomes a perfect storm. For some, it leads to panic attacks, hopelessness, and even thoughts of giving up.


Martin Luther King Jr. had a dream. Malcolm X spoke of a nightmare. For many, that nightmare feels more real than ever.


What Can We Actually Control?

I remind my clients often: we cannot fix everything. But we can focus on what we can control. Maybe you can’t save the world—but you can change the world around you. That might mean logging off for a while. Connecting with your people. Donating. Sharing a post. Having hard conversations. Supporting your community in quiet but meaningful ways.


One of my favorite quotes from the Netflix show Mo is, “Resistance is existence.” I also want to remind you: it’s okay to feel joy. It’s okay to rest. You’re allowed to be happy.


At a recent talk I gave at Purdue, a young girl came up to me crying. She said, “I feel so bad about the world, but hearing you say it’s okay to be happy made me feel so much better.” That stuck with me. A lot of us—especially BIPOC and those from working-class or immigrant backgrounds—carry survivor’s guilt. We wonder why we get to be safe or successful while others suffer. It’s heavy.


Let’s Reflect Together

This is where I really want to hear from you.


How are you managing the trauma you see online?

How are you dealing with fear and anxiety about the future?

How do you cope with the guilt of feeling like you’re not doing enough?


These aren’t rhetorical questions. I don’t have all the answers. I want us to support each other in this space. Let’s talk. Let’s build something. Let’s create community.


Thanks for checking out Different Spectrums! 🎙️ We're a podcast led by licensed therapists and neurodivergent individuals who explore emotions in movies and shows. Our mission is to normalize mental health challenges and promote understanding.


Join your founders and hosts, Dr. Nazeer Zerka and Spencer Srnec, as we process some key scenes to help you better understand your emotions and maybe even find some validation in them.


Episode Breakdown:


0:00 Attention

0:59 Intro

7:39 Discussion


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(00:00):
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Spectrums podcast. Hey everybody, we're back.
Again. Hey, we're back and we're going

(01:04):
to talk about how the world is so terrifying that you want to
die. I'm Spencer, your Co host and of
course we have our licensed clinical therapist now.
The world is ending, Doctor Nas run, the zombies are coming and
ice also remember. Don't take us too seriously.

(01:25):
Or do that's completely up to you.
Also, don't forget to rub those legs for us, we'd really
appreciate it. As you can tell, the theme of
this episode is going to be the world ending.
Essentially it is. It's never.

(01:46):
Yeah, pretty much. But you know, on a serious note,
we are actually talking about all of the different things are
happening, especially around theUS, Iran, you know, Israel,
Palestine. We're going to be talking a lot
about just like all these different things are around us

(02:08):
and how that can really make us anxious.
He's anxious and not know what'sgoing to happen.
You know, the economies, Yeah, it's not great.
It's not bad. It's not great.
That's at all time high home ownership's, at all time low,
interest rates are high, fuckingblah blah blah.

(02:31):
Eggs went down. Yay, we did it.
But yeah, but eggs are down. But yeah, we're going to be
talking about that and just how that that can even create us to
even want to stay inside more, makes us want to be isolated
more even because the world is crazy, right?

(02:52):
I mean, even here in Minnesota, we had somebody literally get
shot next to two people. Two people get shot.
It was the senator and her husband.
Yeah, 4, because they lived. We have two.
Live 2. Died two lived and that was
crazy because on that day it wasI was actually moving my

(03:14):
girlfriend to her new spot and all of a sudden on the news it
just popped up and it on my way to her because it's like 30
minutes away. There were like cops posted up
like out. They were out with their lights
flashing, which they never fucking do.
So I was already like, what the fuck is happening now?
And then we found out that people, like people in our

(03:38):
government, were shot and. I texted you like, hey man, be
careful. Don't go to that protest.
Shit is wild. You're like, brother, I'm going
to be good. I'm like dude, this is wild.
Just so you know, I. Don't go to protest.
OK, Well, I, I don't fucking know man.
I was like, I, I, I don't go there because I don't trust
shit. So true.
I'm not going to go to a. Group of a group of fucking

(04:00):
targets. Not going to happen.
Knew that before that even happened.
No, not going. To happen.
But yeah, so we're talking aboutthat and just all the other
great things happening in the world now.
Now I was like before we get into it.
Again, again again. There's a little break vacations

(04:22):
coming up. There's no scenes in the next
like 3-4 episodes. Well, we still want to hit some
really good topics while we're on vacation, while we're taking
a little time away from the pod,while we're slowing down putting
out content. But this specifically goes out
to all my shoddies shoddy that are stuck to their fucking
phone. Doom scrolling trauma videos,

(04:45):
people getting blown up, the protest, ice raids.
What'd you say your? Phone's upside down.
What you fucking tell me? Stop June scrolling.
Yeah. If you look at it upside down

(05:06):
don't hurt as bad. But Brian ain't gonna lie, man.
I got locked in the other day and I just saw the all the
protest stuff, people just getting their ass kicked, ass
kicked, ass kicked. You know, them going up into
these construction sites and just swarms of Latinos being,
you know, stolen from ICE. And it's like you were supposed
to get out all the rapists and the murderers and the drug

(05:27):
dealers and now all these other white folks, some of the magma
folks, like, wait a minute, you taking our workforce?
Oh, wait a minute, all these aregood working people.
Oh, wait a minute. These people actually do pay
taxes because they're getting paid.
Oh, OK, OK, OK. And it's terrifying for a lot of
people. All of the tax on queer folks,
trans folks, It's it's been intense.

(05:47):
I don't care if you call me soft.
I don't care if you call me queer, a gay, an idiot, a
retard, whatever. I don't care what you call me
right now, there's a lot of people scared in America, a lot
of people scared in a lot of places.
You got planes crashing, motherfucker.
Surviving motherfucker. Random survivor just walks out.
Like, you know, lost the TV show.

(06:08):
Wow, that was. Interesting.
Yeah, no, he just walks out and he goes.
That's how it always ended. Every.
So Canada's on fire again. It's like what the, what do you,
what do you, what do Canadians do over there?
It's intense, man. So we're going to kind of talk

(06:29):
about a lot of folks that are crashing out right now, how to
help that from crashing out, howto work on your cell phone, your
screen time and all that shit. We're going to have a good
conversation about that. We're going to talk a little bit
of shit and we're going to try not to be on the FBI watch list.
So yeah, boop, boop, boop, boop.Dude, did you remember that?

(06:52):
Did you see that reel I sent youwith the the chi center?
I the speed guy or whatever it was?
Oh. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I just want to say super racist shit, you know?
I want to do it. I'm not going to do it.
I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to impersonate
anybody. It's fine.

(07:58):
Is it a watermelon? It's a watermelon.
It's a watermelon. It's a dumpster.
Oh OK, it's a dumpster dumpster fire.
There you go. It's fine.
It's all fine. This is this is some people's
lives right now. It's fine.
Everything on fire, everything'schaos right now and just putting

(08:18):
on that happy face. It's fine, it's fine.
I forget fine. What is remember what that
acronym stands for again is fineis what's?
That acronym? Oh yeah, whenever someone says
fine, it means it's actually a fucked up acronym.
I thought they were being sarcastic.
No, it's like fearful, insecure,neurotic and emotional.

(08:46):
Well, fine. Well then I I was just going
based on the fucking meme. Yeah, I know.
Yeah, I know. There's a saying that when you
say fine, it's, I know it's insecure, neurotic, emotional or
irrational. Nope.
That's that's not that's an I, that's not an E emotional.
Almost almost got something. Erratic.
Maybe Erotic. Let's pivot.

(09:09):
I already had that talk so. Jesus said before.
We're, we're talking about all the, all the, all the bad things
that are happening in the world right now and how it's really
affecting us as people. I mean, we have, we have wars

(09:30):
going on. We have fires starting.
We got people getting shot. And I mean, people always been
getting shot, but I mean recently.
These are white people getting shot.
It's not normal. That's never happened before and
we have people trying to get ridof certain races and it's fucked

(09:55):
up that I, I say that vaguely and I could go to different
things. So, you know, it's very, very
fearful time for some people. It's a very fearful time.
It's a very anxious time to Nas.You really wanted to bring this

(10:17):
up because, I mean, ain't a lot of shit's going on and you
probably have all these different clients.
They're scared about what could happen, what could, what could
be in the future, you know? Yeah, and Spence, I want to be
clear too. It's not just like their fear.
They're not always afraid of their life.
It's that many of them have likethis deep empathy, this

(10:41):
compassion, this heart for like all the other lives that they're
seeing being destroyed, whether that's abroad, whether that's
World War Three, that starts because of the right we're
bombing other countries, whetherthat's the fires in California,
which happened last year or the fires in Canada and last year,
they're horrible now. And the smoke traveled all the
way to Minnesota and Indiana that two weeks ago, right?

(11:03):
I got clients that are completely terrified because all
the airplane crash things that have been happening over the
last year, dude, it's it's nuts.And they don't want to go on
vacations, right? And there's and I mean, like,
I'm just like, Oh no, man, planes aren't going to crash.
And then it's like, you know, like, OK, it's like, so it

(11:23):
happens. And like the parents can't fight
with the kids because it's actually happening.
Fear. You see the stuff that's
happening in Gaza. And just by saying this, people
maybe call me Schlum Spence, maybe me and anti-Semitic for
that, even though we've had plenty of Jewish people come on
the pod. They're also not Zionist where

(11:43):
they believe that there's the master race and all that other
stuff. We're just talking about human
lives. I brought up the other day Miss
Rachel and how she was advocating for like these young
beautiful kids, children being blown to bits and amputees.
The highest rates of amputees, the children, the highest
recording amputee population in history is now happened.

(12:06):
And she's just like I, I, I prayfor lives, I want lives, I care
about lives, children, I'm all about children.
Social worker too. And so the world's just fearful,
man. Just so much going on that we've
cut off a lot of aid spends thatwent to other countries.
Well, now some other folks are going to say, well, like, oh,
that was all frauds bullshit. Just because you don't like the
policy doesn't mean it's fraud. A lot of things are going on, a

(12:30):
lot of people that aren't going to get the life saving thing,
food, medicines, vaccines that they need and that Americans
need too. And right, we got all the stuff
we've talked about on the podcast fence with RF case and
all that wild stuff. And we've had multiple guests
come on talk about that. It's fearful time.

(12:51):
His vaccine committee that he's putting together.
You got the stuff that's going on with queer folk these days
too. And like that folks are
terrified about a bunch of different things.
And so I brought this up becauseso many of my clients
constantly, dude, it was like multiple clients in the world,
they all say, like, the same thing.

(13:11):
He's like, yeah, the world's slowly descending into madness
and fascism. Like the fascism thing, it's
said a lot recently. And I was sitting with another
client. I was like, yeah, so blah, blah,
blah. This person sent me an e-mail
saying, is this what you were talking about?
I was like, what? And we had talked about two

(13:34):
weeks ago, it was a no kings protest.
All that shit was happening. The protests are going on
everywhere. It's huge around the entire
nation, deportation and right wehad a lot of good talks that
day, Saturday, that day was all about the state of the US last
week Sunday, not this Sunday, but the two weeks ago.
Well, technically I'm talking about mid-july now when the

(13:56):
bombs dropped in Iran, you know,I got, I spent some meeting with
a decent amount of Middle Eastern people.
Now Iranian, Lebanese, Palestinian, I'm missing 1
Syrian. And they're like, this is fucked
up, right? So my clients are really fucked
up about this. This directly effects their
people and it's scary. And they got family over there.

(14:19):
And so it's just terrifying. And a lot of my clients will
say, hey, man, just I might not like this government's policies
or this or that, but I don't think that you need to bomb our
entire country. I don't think that you can say
that certain things are OK for you to do, but we can't do it.
I don't understand why you get to have over 90 nuclear missiles

(14:40):
within no one else can. I don't understand why you can
blow up hospitals. But like, you know, other
people, you know, supposedly hitone, right?
It's intense. And so I get a lot of clients,
Spencer, so hyper focused, so obsessive to the cell phone that
they can't, they can't function,Spence.
They can't. And you can call them so often,
call them bitches, whatever, buttheir anxiety and their no

(15:02):
divergent, the OCD, maybe the tism, the autism, it's like
locked in. And so even when their phone is
down, that's what they're thinking about.
Deaf. That's a lot.
That's traumatic. Well, it's just easy to shut
your phone off. Yeah, yeah, but you don't shut
an autistic or an OCD mind off. You don't shut a heart down.

(15:24):
Just it doesn't happened. So I brought this up to you
because I'm dealing with a lot. So I'll go through the what
would you suggest for like your homies?
And I know your girlie's a sensitive girly too, because I
want to see what you would just suggest to people like, hey man,
just turn off your fucking cell phone.
Would it be that simple? Would it be like, go touch
grass? Just watch a little bit of porn

(15:48):
and chill out for a minute, man.Get you a zigzag.
Yeah, watch. Watch the fake titties bounce.
They could be a penis. They could be what I mean, yes,
I think you should turn off yourphone.
I mean, with Dom, she doesn't look at her phone like she has

(16:10):
this thing now where she doesn'tget on her phone until like the
weekend. Oh, yeah.
So she's, you know, there are some people that are allowed
that can actually do that. There are some days I wish I
could do that, but not based on my jobs.
So I think that like, that's a pretty good idea for her.

(16:33):
Like she said that for herself where she's like, I'm not going
on social media until, until theweekend because it's just such a
distraction. And I, I don't think it's like
even if you go out and touch grass, I mean, like the problems
are still out there. You know, you're still gonna,

(16:54):
you might be thinking about everything and it's not really
ignoring the problems. It's more about just making sure
that it doesn't consume you to the point where like that's all
you think about because then you're not really living
anymore, right? You're just only thinking about
the bad things in life when you could be thinking about some of
the good things that are happening to, I don't know,

(17:18):
spend time with friends, family,go out and just have fun.
Have fun you. You can have fun.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Have fun.
Have have, just have a time. Just don't think about anything.
Just have a blank slate of a mind and just be in the moment

(17:40):
of where you are. Because at the end of the day, I
mean, one person is not going tochange everything.
It's a mindset that people have to change and to believe it or
not, you're not all going to change that.
OK to hundreds of years of shit.No, it's OK to, you know, be

(18:01):
it's OK to be small. It's OK to be small sometimes.
It's OK to be something that's not like on a grand scale of
things. Just go day-to-day and think
about like some of the small things you want to change about
yourself or, you know, some of the small things that you can do
to help others feel like they can be in a community with one

(18:24):
another, you know, and it's, it's always those small things
that really go a long way, you know, so.
I 100% agree with everything yousaid.
So often my clients will come tome and they'll tell me about all
these horrible things. I'm like, kid, don't we got to
talk about you like your school work or your job or your
relationship or your PhD, but I can't think about it because

(18:47):
this is in the way. Or, you know, we're getting
married, but I don't even want to think about the wedding
because, you know, so much shit's going on or I don't know
if I want to have kids and bringthem into this world, what's the
point of me even dating and having friends and like, wait a
minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
And then all the people are making these jokes.
We're like millennials. We lived through the 2008

(19:07):
financial crisis, wars and blah,blah, blah.
And there's like nuclear bombs going off in the background.
I'm like, this is funny, but also this is super dramatic.
Like right, calm down. Let's not act like the other
generations didn't go through a lot of shit, kid.
I'm like millennial girl, you, you're fine.
Yeah, I was watching Code name Kid next door.

(19:28):
I wasn't. I was chilling.
I was doing all right. I'm watching fucking Eddie and
Eddie having a beer at 7, you know I'm chilling.
Boxer's home for imaginary friends.
You know, we all had our vices. Yeah, I see.
Boy. Got that.
I see, son. Yeah, got an orange drink.
And so I Remember Me and my dad were talking about this.

(19:50):
He's like, dude, when we are in high school, like, motherfucker,
you going to go to high school, dumb ass.
But he said when we were in school, right, they would have
those, they thought that Russia was bombing them and all these
other countries were bombing them, right?
And so they they were hiding under the desk like, Oh yeah,
because their nuclear fucking warheads going to not make it
through your wooden desk. Yeah, those fucking videos are

(20:11):
hilarious, and they're like, this is APSA, folks.
If you ever there's a nuclear bomb, just duck and cover.
Get in the hallway with all yourclassmates.
And just put your. Head in between your knees.
You know, look right at your let's.
All look at each other as we just turn into dust.
You know, did Thanos come to this bitch?

(20:39):
There's just a passport after the bomb drops, you're not even
going to see where this is going.
And it's just like a Muslim guy's passport and it's like he
did this. It's just like the I don't want
to get in the twin towers. But like all all those passports
were just found. I'm just saying.
I'm just saying they all miraculously survived the
airplane crash and incineration where they found their perfect

(21:00):
passports. Whatever this.
Is why we have a warning. Morning.
In the beginning of the episode warning not all the things that
are said in different spectrum podcast or a great bond between.
Google it the inside job. Google it.
Oh God Jesus, that rabbit hole. Oh.
It's a horrible rabbit hole. Yeah.

(21:21):
So a lot of things been going onfor eons, but now we have that
cell phone that's like right there.
You've got all the news apps, you've got, you know, all the
social media, you got people making content on content.
And so my humans are crashing out.
Horrible anxiety, horrible obsessive compulsive disorder.
The biggest thing that I tell them to do is let's set a timer

(21:43):
or let's delete the app itself, or they put in apps that block
the apps and you got to go through a whole bunch of steps
to unblock it, which is good. It slows you down from going
back to that addiction. What's been said is having fun.
We did that podcast on MO on Netflix and the mom was

(22:04):
miserable, miserable, miserable about what's going on.
And the sister was like, you know, we get to be happy.
Resistance is actually living inexistence.
You get to have joy and be do all these other things.
This is how you let our lineagesand our blood and our love
spread instead of just the misery of what our people go

(22:26):
through. And I repeated that after we did
that podcast fence. I repeated it when I was talking
to the Latin Cultural Center. All these Chicano kids, all
these Hispanic kids, and his sweetest pilot girl comes up to
me. She's bawling her eyes out.
Talk to me privately. She just said, I want to thank

(22:47):
you. And it's like, what's up, kid?
I just want to thank you for saying it's OK to be happy.
I feel so guilty all the time for the life I have, for the
maybe the money or the food, right?
She's like, I grew up tough, butI see all these things happening
in the world and it's horrible. She's like, I just feel
miserable all the time. And she said just when you said
it's OK to be happy, she's like,I was finally able to just maybe

(23:09):
allow it to happen. Like I got you girl.
Anything you need, here's my LinkedIn.
Just let me know. Continue to be happy.
Go go get you some food. Go get in line for food because
there's some good shit and keep doing your thing.
That felt awesome to say that and to know that me and you came
from that for you have no idea, Spence, on how much I use these
podcasts in my therapy. Like it's constant, my guy.

(23:34):
I feel like every pod we do is it would like we were meant to
do it in that moment. I end up connecting it with
someone and so I talked about that is like just, you know,
trying to be happy, grounded in the moment.
We talked about the small things.
So we had three people come on the pod, but one of the homies,

(23:57):
I forgot his name, Andrew, maybethe white guy, Jewish guy, he
just came on about RFKI. Don't remember his name.
It was I heard what you said as you mouthed.
Jesus, like sure. No, I said.
Sure. Yeah, I thought you said Jew.
What? No.
I'm gonna play it back. You mouthed the word.
You. No, I said.

(24:18):
Sure. Yeah, you suck.
I didn't. It's fine, it's good anti
semite. I got a kid.
Here we go, here we go. I am Catholic so I just.
Lost my headphones. So he talked about the small
things that you can do. So a lot of people can write
their senators, write their state representative, right?

(24:40):
There's a bunch of templates andwhere you can advocate for
things. You can't go to protests.
You can show up to town hall meetings.
You can campaign and help other people out that are running for
office. You can do other things that
people are doing on YouTube where they're getting signatures
and signatures and signatures orthey're trying to go talk on in
DC on the floor with like poetryand all the autistic creators

(25:02):
that we were talking about smallthings.
Spencer was talking about small,small, small, small.
Can you change the world? Maybe not.
Can you change the world's around you?
Yes. Can you have small
conversations? Me and Spencer were just talking
about in pre production. I mean, I talked to some of my
Trumpy friends about queer related issues, trans things,

(25:24):
and like it was some heated discussion.
We talked about immigration, things like that.
It's getting to the point where I don't, I don't know if I can
really fuck with some of these folks anymore for like the shit
that they voted for that directly impacts, you know, me
and on people that look like me.So it's tough, but you have
these conversations and you hopethat it moves their heart, their

(25:45):
mind somewhere because you can'tjust cut everybody out because
then no one ever gets educated. So I believe in the small things
and moving the needle. Good conversations with people
to get rid of their racism, sexism, homophobia, the fucking
Zionism right where you're trying to move the needle in the
world. Think that makes me feel like I

(26:08):
have control. Do my best to support all my
Hispanic and Arab clients. I can hear my one girl.
I'm not an Arab. I beat you Arab.
You got a hot job on, don't you?I'm Middle Eastern.
OK, we'll see. We're Persian.
You better than me. You think you're better, You

(26:29):
hear me? You're those sand people, bitch.
Using sand too. Jesus Christ.
I don't know where they came from.
That was obviously triggering. Sure.
I guess a lot of people listen to this.
We're doing this podcast and I wanted to because I know a lot

(26:49):
of folks are going to be no divergent autistic ADHD with
that ADHDI know you're going to latch onto the fear.
Hands are open on that one, so you can't say I was jacking
anything off. Not this time.
This is Jack. Jazz hands.
I feel like I was just mushed on2 cheeks.
See. See, that's the thing.

(27:09):
Two manly cheeks, huh? Why is it so wide?
You know. That's a big bitch.
You just like sit on me. See, I'm going to.
Die doing what I love. Eating man ass.
Yep. They called ass to mouth.

(27:32):
So I'm sorry. So we, we, we, I don't even know
what the fuck I was talking about before we would you we was
talking about small things. I love this podcast.
So, yeah, we, we, as we talk about like all these people that

(27:53):
we're impacting, right. Doing the small things, it's
extremely hard for my clients with like ADHD to get out of the
spiral because their, their, their mind wants them to pick up
information. The mind gets bored.
And so something that stresses them out, stimulating fear and
anxiety, death. I'm sorry.
It's stimulating for your brain.So it latches on to that.

(28:13):
Oh, impulsive. Oh, impulsive.
So you're just sitting there laying down, watch a couple
reels. Now you're hooked.
Now the drug is gone. Now all the neurochemicals are
going, but then at some point intime, the ADHD, the impulse
impulsivity now leads to this obsession.
The obsession leads to this extreme fear, and it just keeps

(28:34):
going, going, going and going. Now you're not sleeping, now
you're not eating. Now you're not taking the care
of your schoolwork and your daily functioning.
Everything goes to shit. If you don't sleep, you're going
to become more obsessive, more anxious.
If you don't eat, exercise, drink your water more like shit,
more anxious. So it just keeps going downhill.

(28:54):
So a lot of the time, Spencer, it's just pushing people to like
back it off, back off. One of the last things I just
want to touch on is when you're going through this, know that
you're neurodivergent ass is sensitive and that's OK.

(29:15):
I don't want to be as sensitive anymore.
I just feel so much pain. I'm like she throw my ass up.
It ain't like you're getting beat, kid.
Or I'm. Sorry, but you a bitch.
Just let you know. Jesus mixed signals here.

(29:38):
Well women been doing this mixedsignal shit to me for my whole
life so I'm bringing it back. I like you as a friend.
My God girl, I thought you were gay.
Stop it, eat your bad ass. Yeah.
Yeah. So, but honestly that that's the

(30:02):
things that are going on is is kids, it's OK to be sensitive.
You're always going to be sensitive kid, you're always a
big caregiver. You're always going to love
extremely hard. And so when you see bad things
happening, it's going to affect you.
It's it's good enough and that is OK.
Well, I don't want to affect me as much.
Well, maybe we stopped some of this OCD and anxiety with maybe
medication. Maybe we stopped shutting, we

(30:25):
turned the phone down. Maybe we do some more
meditation. Maybe we do touch grass
metaphorically. What does that look like?
How do we distract ourselves? Is that how you touch grass?
Apparently. I don't.
I feel like I touch grass like aI'm just going to say it's
fucking speed and I just latch onto it and.

(30:45):
RIP it out. Ruining lawns since 97.
Yep, and then my people come in and fix them. 1800 Mexican.
Yep. Jesus.
You get dial tone now from that number.
There's the Portland. It's a deep operation hotline,

(31:11):
so. They're not picking up.
I don't understand. They're not while they're
outside. So it's a snitch line.
That's one of the biggest thingsis the sensitivity,
understanding that, working through the anxiety, OCD,
constantly doing it with clients.
Just know that your brain is latching on to this and that it
is almost like a mental illness.You have to put the phone down

(31:32):
while I feel like I'm powerless.And then we're going to start
doing small things, small changes.
And it may not be to do with Palestinian rights, you know,
fires the economy, which is interesting and debt.
But maybe you help people, consult them about maybe some of
the debt. I got a lot of students that are
in debt spends 1020 grand. So right, maybe I help them

(31:53):
shift some money around with heyman, maybe we should apply for
financial aid, get a fucking loan, 6% interest instead of 30%
credit card. We do some shifting around and
you can breathe. Sometimes you just try to help
people with consultation. Maybe you just listen to someone
bawl their eyes out about how they think the world's going to
shit, and then maybe that's enough.

(32:16):
That's all you have to do. But please, please, please,
please, please do not act like you're helpless.
Do not think that you are helpless.
You could have an impact on the people around you.
Maybe not. In the grand scheme, Spencer was
right. You ain't about to fucking solve
all these problems. You're not just going to stop
people from killing people. You're not going to put out
these fires in Canada and California.

(32:36):
But you can help, you can advocate for some of the
firefighters that are in California, that one to 2/3 are
inmates, prisoners, which you didn't know.
So maybe not be such an asshole when you talk about all inmates.
Also maybe, you know, hire an inmate.
Well, you know, they got a, theygot a felony and shit, you know,
OK, maybe you hire some folks, the recidivism goes down.

(32:59):
There's ways to help the system.There is.
So I want to talk about that. I know it's a quicker pod, just
a huge issue. So if you're going through this,
it is not uncommon. It's very common.
Do your best to take care of yourselves.
You're more than welcome to ask us questions in this podcast.
I can support you if it's certain ways.

(33:19):
I'll do my best to get to you. I'm just going to have you talk
to our AI on Instagram. Do it.
No. No.
What are they doing? So yeah, it's pretty much the my
crescendo, sweating like a fucking pig.
I don't know. It's hot in here.

(33:40):
Wink, wink. All right, here we go.
Thank you everybody for joining us for this short, short.
Keep on checking us out. Enjoy us because we're great.
I'm Spencer. That's not as different as
Bagpack. All right, everyone, much love
and remember to take care of yourselves.
Hey. Or don't.
It's. Completely up to you, free

(34:04):
falling steam.
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