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May 29, 2025 119 mins

Today we take a deeper, emotional dive into the Disney+ classic The Kid starring Bruce Willis. This episode goes beyond autism or neurodivergence — we’re talking about what it means to lose ourselves to adulthood, capitalism, family expectations, and trauma.


🪞 When We Don’t Recognize Ourselves Anymore

The film paints a vivid picture of something many of us face: waking up one day and realizing we’ve become someone we don’t even like. We’ve traded childhood dreams for stability, connection for survival, and joy for just getting through the day. This is especially true for folks facing burnout, depression, moral injury, or simply the weight of growing up.


Through the lens of Bruce Willis’ character, we witness a man so out of sync with his younger self that he literally splits — seeing the child version of himself appear in real life.


🧠 Therapy, Trauma, and the Internal Battle

We break down scenes where Bruce’s character begins reflecting on his life, including:


The awkward and uncomfortable therapy session where he only asks for medication


Avoidant personality patterns shaped by childhood trauma


His father's verbal abuse while his mother was dying — and the guilt and self-blame many of us internalize as kids


The perfectionism, rigidity, and emotional cut-off many adults develop just to survive


This is what many of us work through in therapy — the lifelong process of reconciling the child we were with the adult we’ve become.


💔 Grief, Guilt & Rewriting the Future

We talk about the film’s heartbreaking portrayal of intergenerational trauma and emotional neglect. The little boy (young Bruce) just wants to know one thing: “Was it my fault?” And how many of us carry that same question?


But the magic happens when all versions of Bruce’s character — past, present, and future — finally realign. The grown-up version finds purpose, love, and even joy again. He's married. He has a dog. He becomes a pilot — just like he always wanted.


🛠️ A Reflection for All of Us

This movie is a metaphor for real-life therapy. It reminds us that it’s never too late to course-correct. We can find our way back to creativity, hope, playfulness, and the dream we buried along the way.


Ask yourself:


What have I let go of that used to bring me joy?


What would my younger self say about the life I’m living now?


Can I still get back to that version of me?


💬 Final Thoughts

We hope you watch this film with intention — not just as entertainment, but as a mirror. If you’re feeling stuck, disconnected, or burdened by everything life has thrown at you, The Kid might help spark that reflection.


This episode is for anyone feeling the weight of who they’ve become, and anyone who’s ready to reconnect with who they were meant to be 💛


Much love to all of you doing the work.


Thanks for checking out Different Spectrums! 🎙️ We're a podcast led by licensed therapists and neurodivergent individuals who explore emotions in movies and shows. Our mission is to normalize mental health challenges and promote understanding.


Join your founders and hosts, Dr. Nazeer Zerka and Spencer Srnec, as we process some key scenes to help you better understand your emotions and maybe even find some validation in them.


Episode Breakdown:


0:00 Attention

0:59 Intro

6:23 Scenes

32:13 Discussion


We’d love to hear your ideas for future episodes and connect with you on social media. You can find all our links here: https://linktr.ee/different_spectrums


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I'm serious, serious. Today we're all.
I'm on Business Today. I'm on 10 toes down.
Whatever. OK, I'm Spencer, your Co host
and of course we have our licensed clinical therapist,
Naz. Dr. Naz.
Yep, sure. Remember, don't take us too

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seriously. Are you completely up to you?
There you go. Also, don't forget to run those
likes for us. We'd really appreciate it.
So today we are covering the movie Disney's The Kid starring
Ruse Brucey Willis The Brucey. This is some things that we're

(01:48):
going to be talking about today,we're going to be talking about.
Jesus, everything. Everything I know, we're talking
about our younger selves. What that means, I mean, does
the past define us or can we change and become who we've
always wanted to be as kids? Can we do that just like Bruce

(02:11):
Lee Willis did in this film? This was one of my favorite
films growing up. Have it on VHS still to this
day. But this is just one of those
films that I feel like you have to watch when you're older.
It doesn't. This isn't a kid film bro.
This is definitely not. I was 6 when this came out.

(02:33):
Yeah, there's no way. You know, what the fuck's going
on. There's so much like meta, and
this is a real meta movie. Yeah, like this movie was way
past its time. Bro this is where the parents
like the parents are like watching this like fucked up.
They were Disney the pair they were trying the whoever made
wrote this was trying to make parents better who watched this

(02:54):
shit. Like don't be fucking up be
kids. I'll be honest, though, you
know, that 90s slash, like early2000s Disney, yeah, they did
something to where they knew that at some point we all grow
up and we'll rewatch these filmshopefully, right?

(03:16):
And I just wish that more people'cause I think especially
they're like, this is a kids movie.
Like, why are we getting so serious here?
But Disney knew how to mix in the seriousness with like the
wacky, the goofy, quote, UN quote.
But they did an amazing job here.

(03:36):
And yeah, yeah, not as anything before getting to.
Like Spence said, we've got 7 scenes we're going to look at.
They're all pretty quick, but this is definitely an evolution
of what it is to be human. But in this one, what is to be a
man, but what it is to be a kid,what it is to be an adult, to

(03:56):
have wants, needs, specifically trauma.
So this is very centered around trauma and the hallucinations or
the ways it affects us and how we navigate it.
So this will be not so much as ano divergent conversation, but
technically you could say he is divergent because of the
hallucinations, the trauma in which he's, he's changed
everything. It's altered his life.
It's a really sad story, but this is literally therapy in the

(04:19):
can. Like if I was going to say like,
hey, man, you you need to process some shit.
Like there's some stuff and we're going through it.
I would probably have you watch this movie going forward on how
to talk to the different self, the young and the old.
How do we heal and like care andtender, be tender for the young
one, But also how do we make sure we're talking to the old
one too and making sure that he's happy because we can't

(04:42):
change the past, but maybe we can make sure the boss ahead of
us, right? The older version is going
towards that pilot license goingtowards family and a dog, right?
How do you make sure that you don't allow all the trauma and
baggage to fuck you up? Like I said, this is way too
fucking matter for someone young.
It is way too matter. It is.
And like I said, I just don't think people at that in 2000

(05:05):
really could get it. I mean, now I feel like if
people really watch this film today, they'd be like, this is
amazing. This is because I'm looking at
the Rotten Tomatoes. It's 49%, which is crazy.
Like, just from the scenes that we saw.
Bangers. Yeah.

(05:25):
I'm telling you, man, people sitdown with this.
I think a lot of people are if they're actually watching and
watching and diddling their phone, right?
Yeah, Oh, I just diddled my phone.
I'm. Going to go ahead and put the
diddle sauce on it. Then I think they would have to
sit with some real shit, Spence.And like, damn, am I doing what
I want to do or am I? Am I being a fucking piece of

(05:47):
shit or a degenerate? Whatever.
Yeah, let's, let's get, let's get into it.
Let's start chopping up these scenes bit by bit.
Also, before we get started, yeah, appreciation for everyone
that's been following us. Continue to please like, like,
like we love the support. We got a lot of collaborations
with autism that happened in thelast like month because this

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will be coming out in like June.So thank you, thank you, thank
you for all the things that you've done, all the support
that we've done, for all the autism awareness stuff.
Appreciate y'all, but let's get into this.
Let's have some fun today. Boop, boop, boop.
Boop. 12 cream pies are on theirway over to the stadium.
Bob Riley expects you in the owner's box at 3.

(06:31):
Amy will meet you there. And why are you wearing the
yellow tie, Janet? How could you know I'm wearing
my yellow tie? You can't even see me.
I can hear the stress in your voice.
Whenever you're stressed, you wear the yellow tie, which makes
you feel all powerful. So you're probably going to yell
at me, which I'm not in the moodfor, so don't.
Nice tie. I am not stressed, there is

(06:54):
nothing wrong with me, I just didn't get enough sleep last
night. Can I have today's work please?
Take your phone off. You're with a human now.
I did the ones and twos. There's a 3A four.
I flagged the five in your mail.There's an 8 on your desk to
sign and there's a 10 standing in your office.

(07:21):
Why did you let him in my office, Janet?
He's threatened me with a machete.
He's your father, Russ. Wait 60 seconds and come in and
tell me I'm late for something. I hate you.
Fight fair. It's a nice photo of you and Al

(07:48):
De Niro. Robert De Niro, OH.
It's a nice photo of you and Robert De Niro.
Well, it would be, except that'sAl Pacino.
Oh. So Dad, what can I do for you?
Did you get the check I sent over this morning?
Yes, yes, I did. I didn't ask you for a check.

(08:10):
I asked you to come over and help me lift a few things.
Well. Time is money, Dad.
My time is worth a lot more thana mover's, so I'm afraid the
check is going to have to do. Like your sister and family
coming over for dinner tomorrow night.
You haven't seen your niece and nephew in a long time, right?

(08:31):
You may want some of those things in the attic.
Like what, Dad? More of my childhood
memorabilia. You'll never know.
How many times in the last 20 years that you've lived in that
house have I ever asked you for anything?
Anything at all. You're late for a very big

(08:56):
meeting. Dozens of irate and highly
important people are clamoring for you.
There is pandemonium, I'm sure somewhere, and you really must
go right now. Good luck with the move Dad, let
me know how it goes. And utterly gorgeous.
Don't look at me, look out there.

(09:18):
Have we signed the new client? We made a bet and make him look
handsome. We get a free hot dog we're.
Going to starve. Not a chance.
Thank you. My pleasure.
Just don't share it with Jerko, no?
Way watch the cholesterol hot dog boy.
Let me hide that for you. Hey I worked hard.
For that, those hot dogs will kill you.

(09:39):
Besides, we're about to have lobster and cream sauce.
I don't want lobster and cream sauce, I want hot dog and
mustard sauce. Please stop biting your nails,
Amy. There yo, I only bite one.
Why do you care anyway? Don't.
Care because you work for me. When you bite your nails, you're
advertising weakness. Really.
Advertising weakness with one little nail.
What's this advertising? Hey, Mike.

(10:01):
Waiting for you. Wait a minute.
Hello. Hello.
I haven't seen you in a couple of days, have you been?
Fine, now can we go in? This is the bit where you asked
me. We are very late, don't have
time but. Give it a whirl.

(10:29):
How are you doing? Fine, we're really late.
Good morning, doctor. I'd like to get right to the
point, if you don't mind. I've got a meeting in 10
minutes. You're entitled to a 50 minute
hour. Thank you, but I only require a
5 minute hour or however long ittakes you to write a

(10:49):
prescription. I see.
We should talk about this. Why don't you sit down?
No, thank you. I don't want to sit down.
It all starts with sitting down.You sit down and then before you
know it, 12 years it's gone by and you're still talking about
the time you saw your mother naked in the shower.
You saw your mother naked in theshower.
No, I'm just saying I'm happy tostand.

(11:11):
OK? Look, I, I I don't want therapy.
I don't need therapy. Why do you feel that way?
Because I'm not like the other nut balls that roll through
here. OK, I don't have a smoking
problem. I don't have a drinking problem.
I don't have a closet full of ladies undergarments.
Sit down, Mr. Durritz, and tell me what the problem is.
No, you don't. Mr. Duarts, I'm not trying to

(11:34):
trick you, I'm trying to understand your issues.
Issue Issue singular Just one. All right, what is it?
For the last few weeks I have been seeing a guy in a plane.

(11:55):
Oh, I see. Not that kind of seeing.
I mean, I've been hallucinating a guy in a plane and these
delusions or whatever it is you people call them seem to be
getting worse. Anyway, now I'm seeing a kid.
And you think this kid is a hallucination too?

(12:19):
Yes. Is he someone you knew from your
past? From your childhood?
No. Not from my childhood.
I've forgotten my childhood. My childhood is in the past
where it belongs. But it doesn't want to stay in
the past, does it? Mr. Durrett?
I notice your eye is twitching. I don't have a tick.

(12:43):
I didn't say you had a tick. It's not a tick.
I have dry eyes. Why are you asking me about my
dry eyes? Why are you so upset?
Because I'm. Having.
Hallucinations, and I'm asking you to make them go away with
very powerful medication that I can pick up on my way to work.
Please, ma'am. Mr. Juris, you will pick up your

(13:08):
powerful medicine and then you. Will go.
Home and take the rest of the day off, yes.
Ma'am. This is for a total of 4 pills.
They will help to keep you calm until tomorrow at 4:00, at which
time I expect to see you back here in my office for an
appointment, which you must promise to keep.

(13:30):
Yes, ma'am. You're having these
hallucinations for a reason. Yes, ma'am.
And Mr. Durrance, you need to figure out what that reason is.
Thank you. Somebody got to win, You live.

(13:54):
What are you crying about anyway?
I just want to go. Home.
Well, I'm trying to get you home, OK?
Am I in trouble? You're.
Going to be in trouble if you wipe that snot on my catskin
seat. Don't do it.
Just try and remember where you live, OK?
You should know that. Well, I don't know that we moved
12 times. We moved.

(14:15):
A dozen times. Yes, a dozen is 12.
We move 12 times. What happens?
What happens? A big truck comes, they put all
your stuff inside and you move to another house 12 times look.
There it is, right there. Remember it now.

(14:40):
No. Look, that's where we fell off
the roof last year. That's the Bush we fell into.
That's where the really big possum crawled under the house,
remember? Yeah, that was one of life's big
events, when the possum crawled under the house.
How could I forget? You don't remember the possum.
It was like this big and they'vehad really long teeth.

(15:04):
He took our sneaker in his mouthand ran off with it.
You've got to remember that. Hey, I don't remember the
possum, OK? Hardly remember living here at
all. But you do, and that's all that
counts. Get out.
Wait, the house is different? Who is the name?

(15:35):
What am I going to do? What now?
Hey, will you knock off the waterworks?
OK, you know what the number onekiller of kids under the age of
8 is? Self pity.
You're already pitiful enough. Well, at least I don't do this.

(15:56):
It's our birthday tomorrow. Yeah, I know.
Can I ask you a question? Sure.
What happens next? What?
Do you mean? I mean to me, between being me
and becoming you, what happens? Do I ever do anything right?

(16:17):
I'm. Sure you do.
You do a lot of things right. Like what?
Well, make it through grade school.
Live barely in high school? Well, you're still a loser.
You're no longer stupid. You work your butt off.
You get good grades, very good grades.

(16:40):
You end up winning a scholarshipto UCLA.
I'm smart. Very smart, but you're still a
loser. Hop in, scoot over.
In college, things start to get a little bit better.

(17:01):
Join the track team. Find a speech therapist.
You continue to work your butt off and you graduate at the top
of your class. You eventually go after a
master's degree in business. Or I work my butt off the.
Story of your life, kid. The good news is that while you
are currently a pathetic dweeb, eventually you grow up to be me.

(17:24):
High-powered affluent chick magnet who?
Doesn't have a dog or a chick. Is that how you see me?
Dogless chickless guy. With the twitch right?
When do I get that? I forget.
When do I learn how to drive? When you're 16?
When? Do I get a car?

(17:45):
When you're 18. When do I get a Hickey?
When you're 17. When do I find out what a Hickey
is not? Tonight.
Ross. Yeah, good.
I get what you do now. I mean, I get what I do when I

(18:10):
grow up for a living. I figured out how to explain.
Let. Me hear it.
You help people lie about who they really are so that they can
pretend to be someone else, right?
Yeah. See, it's not hard to explain.

(18:32):
It's pretty good. Can I buddy?
Yeah, I could want to help me with something.
I think it might get you back toyour time.
Sure, good. Anything about me?

(18:54):
Yeah, anything that'll take me back.
You know how I like to find caterpillars and put them in
jars and feed them and watch them make cocoons and then one

(19:15):
day they break out and it's really cool?
Not a clue, but keep going. Tell me some more stuff.
Remember last summer at Josie's birthday party when I got
Parmesan? 2 stuck up my nose got me sixes.

(19:35):
Nope, Go fish any fours. Negative go fish.
Got any sevens tell? Me some more about Dad.
Sometimes he lets me help him work on the car, but if I do

(20:00):
something wrong he yells at me. Sometimes he buys me ice cream
afterwards, but still I don't like messing up.
Like last week I lost the screw.I was afraid to tell him I found

(20:20):
it later on in my pocket. Look, I still have it.
I'm afraid to give it back to him.
Got any nines? My homeroom teacher last year

(20:44):
was Fat Missus Tinkleman. She was so much better than Mr.
Lupus. He had that purple bump on his
face. I.
Don't remember the bump guy. What grade was that?
How come you're asking me all this stuff?
Because I'm forgetting something, I'm forgetting this
one event that meant something to me.
And if I can remember that one thing, maybe I can get you home.
Are you sure it's not the purplebump?

(21:07):
Bump, kid. It was a pretty big bump.
Tell me more about second grade.Why nobody had a bump in second
grade? My best friend was Tim Wheat
until a few months ago. Remember him?
No, I don't. His house smells like fish
sticks. No.
Well, he was my best friend until he started hanging out

(21:29):
with Vince and these other creepy guys.
He threw a rock at me and we haven't been friends since then.
Threw a rock at us. Oh.
Yeah. Why?
What happened? Those guys get together every
recess in the corner of the playground yard where they like
to pick on kids. Back behind the kindergarten.

(21:52):
Yeah, well, the yard monitor can't see.
You where that big sliding boardis?
Yeah, the real youth one you're remembering.
Go on, don't stop. There's four of them, and if
they don't like you, they make your life a nightmare.
And the worst thing about them is they're really mean to

(22:15):
animals, especially this one three legged dog.
Tripod. Tripod.
The dog's name is Tripod. I know the dog's name.
I know everything, kid. I know why you're here.
This is the event. Vince Kaczynski.
The fight. It's the fight.
It was my 8th birthday. It was 32 years ago today.

(22:46):
Holy smokes, look at the car, look at your clothes.
Holy. Smokes, we think, kid AM.

(23:07):
I holding the really 1968. No doubt about it, kid, what
time's recess Can't do it? 10.

(23:28):
Holy smokes, you did. I haven't.
Never do is right. You won the fight.
You really did it. You won the fight.
Did. It.
I did it, that's all. I did what I had to do.
Everything's going to be different now, yeah?
I guess so. Over that is all.
Yes, that's all right. Oh.

(23:55):
No what? It's not over.
This gets worse, kid. Much worse.
What are you talking about? I won the fight.
It wasn't the fight, that wasn'tit.
It's not over ice on the ice, son.

(24:26):
Mr. Branch, I put all the reports on your desk.
Mom, I'm sorry. Mom, I'm sorry.
Oh, it's OK. It's OK.
I'm sorry you had to come in, Mrs. Dirt.

(24:48):
You don't know. You haven't been well.
Please don't punish him, Mr. Branch.
It's his birthday today. Mom.
Daddy. What?

(25:10):
Are you? Doing you stay there please?
Don't scare him. He's.
Had a heart. Why?
The doctor said you went to leave the house.
What is the litter with you?

(25:41):
I'm sorry, how? Can we do this?
To your brother, what are you trying to do?
Kill her faster? What we're going to lose, You're
killing her. I found the screw, dad.
Screw the screw. Stop crying.
Here's the screw dad. Look.
Here it is. Here it is.

(26:02):
I found it. Stop crying.
Look at the screw here. It is.
Stop crying. Stop.
You got to grow up now. Do you understand?
Grow up. Grow up.

(26:43):
Mom's dying. I know.
Soon, yeah. For your next birthday.
Did I do it? No, no, you didn't do it.

(27:05):
It's not your fault. Dad was just saying those things
because he's scared, because he knows that he has to raise you
alone. He doesn't know how to do it, I
thought. You never called.

(27:30):
Since my 8th birthday, I guess I'm starting up again.
Come. 'Cause I just figured out where
I got that twitch from. Somebody called the way
ambulance. Yeah, I'm going to need them
now, huh? You want to get out of here?

(27:59):
Let's go. Let's go get something to eat.
OK, can that is that no way. Can't be.

(28:54):
Like the old plane? Yeah.
You did all this. You put that plane on my
doorstep. Yeah.
Yeah. I thought that was a

(29:14):
particularly nice touch. It was, but you got a lot of
questions. Yeah, well, I wouldn't worry
about it. Got 30 years to figure them out
right now. I got to go.
Families wait. It was especially nice seeing

(30:00):
you again. I'll see
you, see you. Bye.

(30:47):
We did it, we did it, we did it.We're OK.
We're OK. We're OK.
You're a pilot. You're a pilot.
You're a. Pilot.
No, You're a pilot. I'm the pilot.
We grow up to be violence. We grow up to be violence.
Do you see our dog? What's his name?
Chester. Chester, the world's greatest

(31:10):
dog. Yes, Right, left, left.
You see? Our family, Yeah, Yes, that old
lady looked familiar. I thought so too.

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(32:17):
All right, so before we get intoit, we just wanted to say just
our condolences to the Bruce Willis family and just him in
general because he's going through it.
He has a tough set of dementia. I mean, dementia's tough no
matter what, but at the same time it's it's very tough, tough

(32:38):
disease for somebody to be goingthrough and not just him, but
also for the people around him because it affects everybody
who's around. So just wanted to shout out to
Bruce Willis, his family, how supportive they have been and
just to check up on yourself andyour loved ones because you

(33:01):
never know what's happening. So remember to get your check
UPS, people. Go see the doctor's offices
because it's important. And, you know, and even if you
know, you can't say, like, even if you like, you catch this in
time. It's like, it doesn't matter.
It's yeah, yeah. So.
But at the same time, keep on getting check UPS, folks and

(33:22):
making sure you're OK. And yeah.
Just wanted to give a short shout out to Bruce Willis and
his family. Hearts go out to all the family
members and his family, all the great wonderful memories that he
gave us, all the wonderful movies, action, comedy, romance,
all of it his heart and soul. And also just want to any of you
that has family members, friendsgoing through dementia, right?

(33:45):
I know it's is a heavy toll to watch someone lose their
identity, their personality, their humanity.
I got a lot of clients that family members have it.
So my hearts go out to y'all my empathy.
Hopefully you're doing OK and you're doing the best that you
can. So take care of yourselves
everyone, OK? All right, so we are now going

(34:09):
to be talking about Disney's. The kid.
The kid. So I'm going to read just this
short synopsis of the movie. Just kind of get out there just
so everybody knows, because a lot of people have not seen this
movie and they're like, what thefuck did I just watch?
I'm done. Put that thing out.
Put it on me, boy. OK, well, didn't want to do

(34:30):
that. Never want to.
Why is it wet? All right, so Bruce Willis stars
as Russ Duritz, a successful image consultant whose life is
suddenly turned upside down whenhe magically meets Rusty Russ
himself as an 8 year old kid. Rusty is a sweet but slightly

(34:50):
geeky, awkward little kid who painfully reminds Russ of
everything he hated about himself when he was a child.
Oh Gee, little crybaby was the daily victim of school bullies
and image Russ has worked hard to overcome and consciously
forget. Yeah.

(35:12):
So essentially when we first meet Russ, he is actually
consulting with like this big time senator and she's like
crying and he's just like somebody call the ambulance.
That's like his go to line when anybody's crying.
And so in the first scene, Russ is in his office, He's wearing

(35:37):
his his comfort tie, his yellow tie, as as pointed out by his
assistant. And I just find it also before
we get into like the rest of thesea, I just also find it
interesting this the people thathe works with are just like the
polar opposites of him. His assistant is just like this

(35:58):
smart ass who's just like, dude,I what are you doing?
And. That's a famous actress,
comedian, lady. Yes, yeah, yeah, she's huge.
Yeah, huge. And then he has Amy, who he
works with, who was just like this childlike person who's
kind, friendly, everyone loves. And then you got Russ, like

(36:20):
everybody hates 'cause he's, he's an asshole, essentially.
Russ is an asshole 'cause he's an image consultant.
So his younger self explains it.But another way to explain what
he does is that he helps bad people look good, essentially.
And in the first scene, we have him going to his dad's office

(36:41):
and this is like the first couple minutes in and you're
like, wow, him and his dad just don't have a good relationship.
They're very cold to one another.
His dad tries to be friendly with him, but it feels like his
dad just feels like now he's, hehas to try and make this
relationship work. Then we find out later on why

(37:05):
this is. But yeah.
And really, Russ is using like, his checkbook than using his
time for his family. He's like, you know what?
I can't do any of that moving crap.
I'm just going to give you moneyfor movers and you can deal with
it yourself. Now go.
And then we also find out that Russ has a little, little twitch

(37:28):
in his eye whenever he's feelingstressed or, you know, just
overwhelmed, he has that little,little twitch.
So it's like that pervert wink Igive at people at the gym.
Yeah, exactly like that, huh? Like I'm looking at you, lady.
You're like, yeah, I just got totwitch him.

(37:53):
So what were your first thoughtson the scene and how did you
feel about Ross when he first started coming to play on the
movie? First things first, I noticed
right when they're having that dialogue when he gets to work is
right, that comfort tie. So even as you get older,
doesn't matter if you know the virgin or not, we all got kind

(38:13):
of that like that swag, that thing that makes us feel good,
attractive, sexy, powerful. Very, very common also that you
see that twitch. So I couldn't tell if he had
like a migraine at first, right?But then you saw the twitch.
I'm not sure if I talked about on the pod recently, but like I
was talking with one of my clients, I was like, man, my eye
just been twitching lately, man.He's like, oh, is it the bottom

(38:34):
lid? I'm like, yeah, yeah.
He's like, either you're stressed out or you haven't been
sleeping. I was like, damn, for real?
He's like, yeah, so do I get themoney now?
He's like, do you refund me for therapy?
I was like, calm the fuck down, calm the fuck down.
But his is a little bit more of a twitch.
It's a much more of a different type of twitch and like trauma
response, which I didn't really know because right, Spencer seen

(38:57):
it. So like you see later what it is
biggest thing I take away from the scene is it went very
different than what I thought I asked Spencer.
I was like, so what's going on? I figured the kid was going to
be like either his dad was dyingor his sister was dying and then
he was going to have to take on this kid and like become like
the father figure. Like it was like a a coming of

(39:18):
age type thing for like when theold grumpy white man gets a
heart type vibe and you're like,no, that's not yeah, I know it's
just trauma. Jesus.
But yeah, definitely, you understand, pause.
So I see a lot of clients come into the office, Spence, and
they've got really big issues with like, family members

(39:40):
because they're autistic, ADHD, queer, trans, asexual.
I got, you know, they want to change majors.
They don't want to be a doctor anymore, whatever it is maybe
they want, I want to stop their sport and they're like a prime
Division One athlete. And now there's this issue
between them and their family, this dynamic which can lead on
to eons years later. And so I'm thinking of client

(40:02):
spends that are like, they don'tfuck with their parent because
the shit that they did and it was so heinous in the past that
they can't ever like forgive them or move forward like they
will never have that relationship.
So that's what I was thinking, like the dad did some heinous
shit after we started watching some stuff and so.
What I was thinking about Spenceis a lot when I'm talking to

(40:22):
clients is is like you're not cutting off your family like,
but it is. I said no, no, no, no.
Their behaviors are cutting themselves off their craziness.
They're a verbal abuse, physicalabuse, mental abuse, the way
they treat you siblings, the partner, the alcoholism, their
drug abuse, right? They're hoarding any of the

(40:43):
victim shit that it goes on where you know, you don't all
that guilt stuff. A lot of parents, I'm like, bro,
you're not cutting them off. It's their behaviors.
So I was thinking of that like Bruce was like, here's a check,
bro, like I don't want like I don't go away.
So Spencer was like, he's a Dick.
But then again, now you see why?Because that was that was pretty

(41:05):
fucking intense. And then homeboy, we'll get to
it. But you know how fucked up a kid
has to be, man, that young, thatage.
And then he just learns his ma'sdying.
And then he says, you know, it'salmost like your fault.
And the kid looks at Bruce like,did I kill mom, bro?
It's a lot to live with. I know it's a lot to live with
brother. So good scene to set up the rest

(41:27):
of the show. Yeah, yeah.
And then we'll go on to the second one.
So this is where we meet Amy. They're at a baseball game.
He's there to meet a client who owns the team or whatever the
fuck. And then we see that Amy's just
like this friendly, bubbly person who gets along with

(41:47):
everybody. All she wanted was a hot dog.
And yet, you know, Bruce is like, yeah, no.
So we see that he also has, like, this problem with people
who are overweight because when he was a kid, he was, oh, there
it is. And so fat phobia.
Yeah. And so now he's reflecting his

(42:08):
feelings of himself onto others.And he's really showing that,
you know, more stuff that he just, you know, he just doesn't
like himself. And then obviously that turns
into other people not liking himas well because he's outwardly
just like you. Gross.
Like, what the fuck? And like I said, it's very

(42:32):
interesting to see the side characters of who he's around
and people that actually stick with him because I think that
they know that Russ has good, but he just never shows it.
He might show it in glimpses, but he doesn't show it like for
the most part. And so I think once some of

(42:55):
these people get like a the glimmer of who he is, then they
kind of stick around. Also, he's paying them, I mean,
their employees to him. So there's a financial thing,
their financial power that he has kind of over them.
Like, OK, I'm like one of the most successful people in this
business. You guys just leave now.
Oh, OK, All right. I see.

(43:17):
So for him, it's all about powerand just making sure that.
Control. Yeah, and control.
Power control, predictability. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, and then, you know, something else, like you also
wanted to point out something before they get into the office
Was just like, OK, we got to go.And she's like, wait a minute,

(43:39):
hold on, let's ask me how I'm doing.
How's how's my day? And I'll ask how your day is.
Come on, let's do the do the human thing.
So it seems like people are actually trying to get them to
be on the more lighter side, but.

(44:00):
Interesting G. So now that you're pointing out
some shit and you said it, but Ididn't really tie it together,
they're subtly placing certain humans around him that reflect
his inner child in like actual real self.
But his trauma and defense mechanisms has been completely
perverted and changed to make him this certain individual,

(44:22):
which has kept him safe, which has made him successful, which
we're going to get into, right? Which is extreme hard work,
diligence, almost obsessive compulsive disorder,
organization, militant. But also he lacks all these
awesome things, which we'll get into, like the things that
actually he liked as a kid. So the first lady, very bright,
bubbly, the assistant, right? Funny, weird, awkward, that's

(44:43):
what we see as him as a kid throughout the rest of the
movie. And then you get the other
girly, definitely neurodivergentbite her nails, super anxious,
right? You just don't want nail, just
don't want not all of them. So definitely some anxiety
stuff, maybe some ADHD with her and it resembles a younger kid,
kind of like tweaking, right? Full of thoughts and feelings,
emotions. And she's like, I just want to

(45:05):
eat a hot dog. She's like, we're about to eat
lobster and like cream sauce. She's like, I want a hot dog.
We're mustard sauce. Just want to be an American God
damn it. I just want obesity and
cholesterol. God bless.
God bless the Venus. Hey.
Again, really good, really, really good how they're subtly

(45:27):
doing that. But he is so far against it and
it's, you know, reminds me of anold, old, old clip.
I know I always bring up Rocket,but Yondu and rocket soon as you
get a little bit of love, it lets you know how empty you are
inside. It's that reminds me of Bruce

(45:48):
shoes. Any of that shit away defense
mechanism. Don't be hurt.
The scene that you talked about with the talking, Oh boy, just
has no ability to chill. Go, go, go, go, go.
But also it feel it feels very autistic in that moment.
Like, so you going to ask me howmy day is?
It feels like a lot of my clients with their partners

(46:09):
doesn't like they don't really engage that much.
It's like, yeah, he's he doesn't, he knows your day is
fine. You're going to tell him how his
days. He doesn't need to fucking ask
you. So he looks like he doesn't like
small talk. He's like, how was your day?
And she's like, it was fine. We got places to go and I could
see my autistic ass like I fucking going to murder you.
Yeah, no, he hates small talk. There's one thing that we didn't
show that I was going to. That was like, we have enough

(46:33):
where he's on an airplane with this woman who's like this
anchor who's from like Texas, she's going to California.
And so she's got the accent and everything.
She's just like, hey, how's it going?
Like she keeps on trying to talkto him.
He's just like, I just want to get my work done in the in the
airplane. Like, I just don't, I just don't
want to do this right now. And then she's just like, and

(46:54):
then she's just, she's very nice, right?
She's very nice while she's doing it.
But he's just like, I don't wantto hear this.
And then he actually gives her advice on what she, what should
she be doing while she's an anchor to actually keep the job
and actually be successful? I think so.
So he actually does give advice and he does give knowledge of

(47:15):
what he knows to people. He's just not a people person
because no. And then also he sticks with his
clients are all pieces of shit, Like legit pieces of shit.
Yeah, that now he has to try andhelp make them feel like they're
different than what they really are.

(47:36):
Like rest, Rusty said in the onescene that we watch.
Facts. So I like that you brought this
up because he is a studier of human development, growth,
intimacy. He has learned so much about
humans AKA business, but it's not just from school, it's from
like watching, working, lived experience.

(47:56):
It's all trauma based. And so he knows what people are
looking for and he knows how to advise people on what like this
human experience should look like.
He also has like some pretty badavoidant personality disorder
type shit or avoidant attachmentbecause it's all the fear of
abandonment and insecurity so just pushes everyone away.
That's super fucking nice because homeboy doesn't want to

(48:19):
be left. He doesn't want to be unstable
or not in control. He doesn't want to ever be in
pain again. Yeah, that makes sense.
But the homie knows how humans work.
He just doesn't give a fuck about anything that's not
monetizable. Yeah, exactly, exactly.
If he's not making money from it, he don't give a fuck.
No, what do I? I'm going to do this so I can

(48:39):
get hurt. Love is chaos.
I don't want that. Give me that real money so fuck.
Give me that cash, Coochie. You know, Coochie, coochie.
Get that thing away from me, girl.
Venus. OK.
Oh my God, I'm sorry. Oh, that's good scene.
This is the therapy scene. Oh, good scene.

(49:02):
Yes. So to backtrack a little bit,
Russ, he see like he is driving into home.
He has of course he has like a big ass gate.
He has a huge ass house. He has a gate, opens it up.
Then all of a sudden this kid isin there and the kid runs and he
couldn't catch the kid. Obviously it's his younger self,

(49:24):
but he doesn't know that yet. And so he sees that there's an
airplane on his doorstep. And he thought that his dad was
the one who actually left the airplane there because, you
know, they're cleaning out the attic and everything.
So he thought like, oh, my dad did this.
But then one day he's driving back home and or no sorry, he's

(49:47):
actually in his home and the kids in there and he's like, he
made popcorn for himself. Something is watching TV And
then he's just like what the fuck?
Like what this? Kid here, he's like, I'm seeing
this kid, what the hell is goingon?
And he he actually chases the kid all the way to this airport

(50:08):
and then this diner pops up, right?
Random diner in the like in thisairport.
And he goes in, he's like, did anybody see this kid?
Everyone's like, what the fuck? And everybody looks like they're
from like the 60s or the 80s. And he goes back out and all of
a sudden the diner's gone. So he's legit like losing his

(50:32):
mind. Like, you know, diner's popping
up. Kids are fucking running around
in his house and shit. So this isn't just normal
stress, motherfucker. There's some.
There's some Looney Tune stuff. Something's happening.
He got something is happening. He got he got dangerous,
something's going on. He got he needs a strong
medicines. And so now he's at the

(50:54):
therapist's office and he is very reluctant to actually get
therapy. He's just there for the drugs.
He's like, just drug me up and let me keep on going with my
day. I don't want to waste my time
talking because he's a businessman.
A businessman. Got shit to do.

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Yeah, got shit to do. I ain't.
Got time for that shit? That's for white women.
I ain't talking about my feelings.
And of course this and of coursetherapist was just like, no, you
got to sit down and talk. You got to try and talk.
She does get some stuff out of him.
He almost sat down. Almost.
But he he caught on real quick. He caught on you bitch, and he

(51:37):
almost got he almost let some things slip, right, like, oh, I
don't like I don't really fuck with the past.
I don't really mess with it. It's it's there and it's going
to stay there. And then she's like, hey, well,
obviously the past is something to say to you.
So why don't we talk about that?And she gives in, does give him

(52:00):
like some some medications there.
She also sees the twitch happening.
Dry ice. Dry ice.
Well, why aren't you just leave me alone?
Dry ice? Well, dry eye, not eyes.
Yep, just one eye. Just one.
Yep, that's. My bad one.
As therapy scenes go, right, this is early 2000s.

(52:23):
Therapy scenes are not what theyare today.
I mean, they fuck up scenes today in therapy, let's be
honest. But you know, for the 2000s, I
thought it was pretty good. I thought it was pretty good
too. Even though she did give him the
medication at the end, she gave him a small dosage and just as
something to get him over and she said if you want more, you

(52:44):
have to come back. So a little bit of a drug deal,
but you know, hey, it is what it.
Is I do it all the time. Yeah.
What are you going? To do you want some fidget toys,
you autistic motherfucker, you want?
You want to come back and play with Play DoH.
You want that moon, Sandma? You want to eat more Legos?
Yeah, I'm back. No, it's not a fetus.

(53:07):
Autistic children. Legos disclaimer.
Disclaimer, I do. We do not condone eating any.
Yeah, We don't condone anything that's not meant to be edible.
Yes. Anyways, what do you think of
the seed as the therapist point of view?
What do you think about it? And if you had somebody coming

(53:30):
into your office saying that they were seeing a guy in an
airplane, a red airplane, going around a young child and there
there was no inclination of it being like his past self or his
future self, stuff like that. What would you do if Bruce
Willis came to your office like that?

(53:53):
So a lot of therapists would tweak out because they'd be
super scared. So I would immediately be like,
OK, so I would try to disarm homeboy to get him to relax, to
sit down, to chill, right? I mean, shit, dude, I had
someone today that was like hot coming in hot and heavy for
couples counseling. I was like, so this is not going

(54:15):
well. I thought I'd be able to disarm
them quicker. That shit did not go like that.
Let me just tell you, I took an L today.
And So what happens? But he actually wanted to be
there. He just didn't want to talk and
process. He wanted to figure out this
psychotic break that he's having.

(54:36):
So I feel like a lot more peoplewill be more willing, Spence, to
like, actually like, talk about some shit because they'd be like
really fucking scared. Really scared.
Also, it should be noted that visual hallucinations are not
common at all. Not like, not at all.
It's mostly auditory. Most of my humans, yeah,
schizophrenia and other versionsof it or like autism with like

(55:00):
some really disabling or schizophrenia in it or bipolar
or psychotic breaks, psychotic features.
It's normally auditory spent. So you're just hearing a few
things. Sometimes it sounds, sometimes
it is voices. I have clients with voices.
Sometimes I ramp up and suicidality, Sometimes it's just
like just them, just like shit in the background but nothing
too crazy. Very rarely is it a real visual.

(55:23):
Had the visual with one person. Very rare.
Medication is pretty straightforward.
Spence, she said this will help calm you down.
So I feel like she gave him likesome panic stuff.
But a lot of antipsychotics are very sedative.
So she might have gave them and they work instantly.
So that'll usually calm some people down.
But they don't like taking the antipsychotics because like I

(55:45):
said, they are very sedative. So I would have tried to disarm
them. Get in the chat.
She tried, she worked on some stuff.
Probably wouldn't have brought up to Twitch that quick.
You know, I've been like, hey, man, you're here for something G
like I ain't fucking forced you to sign up.
It was like, I'm just here for the meds.

(56:06):
All right, I'm going to get you to meds.
Like I'm I'm going to get you tomeds.
But we need to do a little little dance first because I
didn't make sure that there's not other shit that's going on.
Because if I give you the wrong Med, my guy, like this could
fuck up some other shit. Ladies can cost some shit that I
don't want it to cost. Can't be fucking around with
these meds. Now, this is real shit.
So I would actually, honestly, Idon't prescribe medicines as a

(56:29):
social worker, right? But if I was a psychiatrist,
that's how I would handle it. Overall, I thought she did
really well. She did well to disarm them.
She was being very curious, veryaffirming, didn't tweak out,
didn't get mad, wasn't overly dramatic or dry, demanding him
to come back to the office. So just not writing the script

(56:49):
and being like be be gone. Feel like that was what any
doctor would have did or they wouldn't have given the medicine
at all because he was being so non compliant.
Right, right. So overall, probably what I
would have done. I would have been very hesitant
to just give him a script after like what he was there for.

(57:12):
That was a 3 minute clip. Yeah, yeah, tough.
I was not there for long. I'm not going to lie, dude, I
don't think like legally you cando that and like not lose your
fucking license. It's.
LA baby. Breast implants.
Here you go. See.
You can have it all. You can have it all.
Adderall. You want an upper and a downer.

(57:32):
Oh, OK, OK, OK, OK. But most likely would not happen
that quick. A lot of forms, a lot of
paperwork, a lot of all this shit.
Yeah. Rarely do clients come in that
hot. No, Spence, because they're
coming in there for something. It's not just if it was just the
meds, he should have went to like a like a legit doctor

(57:53):
doctor, but he went to psychiatrist knowing that
they're going to do some type oftalking.
The funniest part though, is when he tries to sit down.
So like he wants to talk, but like he doesn't want to get into
the shit. What was that one weird thing he
said? He's like, if I got like my
mother's. Oh, if I saw my mother naked or

(58:13):
naked, yeah, I'm not like one ofyour of these other crazy
people. I don't have like dolls or
lingerie, women's lingerie in myin my closet.
I mean, who doesn't have a few panties in their closet?
I mean, you know. This can go a lot.
This can go a lot of different ways.
Jesus Christ. So 25.

(58:35):
Tablecloth. What the fuck?
Did you kill a cheetah? Old cheetah from.
Right around your waist, but I mean hilarious.
So let's talk about that real quick is the masculinity of
expense. So I'm I'm not like them.
I'm not crazy motherfucker, you hallucinating, but I'm not like
these other perverts, these other weirdos, you know, it

(58:58):
wasn't some deep trauma that fucked me up.
It's like. Something happened.
You didn't just start seeing people.
Yeah, yeah. The cool thing was is that she
was like something is causing this and we need to talk about
it. So the best medical prescribers
will be like we need to do talk therapy, trauma therapy,
whatever it is, and medicine. I really love that they push

(59:20):
that in this film. Let's not just dope people up.
Everyone thinks doctors and therapies trying to dope you up.
It's not true. Very rarely do I put I only push
medications when the folks are being more disabled by what the
fuck is going on in life. Oh, so you don't need to be like
super fucked up to go to therapyor to get medication, bro.
Yeah, yeah. Could just be the little things.

(59:43):
The little things, the little things you saw your dad, that'll
fuck you up. Yeah, that might be a big thing.
I'm going to be honest with you that that doesn't seem like a
little thing. It could be a little bit.
Hey, I'm anything like my daddy ain't a little.
God, I'm motherfucker, you can take that to your leg.

(01:00:05):
Let's go to the next. All right, before we do that, I
do also want to point out that he has a more, he's willing to
hear out a lot more of like women's opinions.
And obviously I think that comesfrom Mama because he his mom, I
think he really loved his mom. And obviously, I mean, but it's

(01:00:29):
I think she was also like the the kinder, even in the scene
that we watch, we will get to a little bit later on, she's even
like pleading with like the principal or whatever, like it's
his birthday, come on. Like, and you see that
throughout the film, like all the women that he talks to, he
actually gets a little bit more calmer when it's women that he

(01:00:50):
talks to, but then they're also a little bit more willing to
deal with his shit more than like the men are.
So there's that too. Interesting little turn there we
get a lot of women which are putin those caregiver roles, those
nurturing roles, those I'm goingto help you, I'm going to take
care of you that martyrdom roles.
And so maybe they are being morepatient, but also because of his

(01:01:11):
good trauma, the good stuff withhis mother, there's something
about his soul that gets sued. The kid that gets sued by these
very loving supported like bubbly women.
So it makes sense on why he's willing, like, OK, how how do we
say how my day's going? Oh, here's your medicine.
You need to take it. Let's sit down and talk.
You see him fade into the child.Yeah.

(01:01:32):
Good point, good point. Good point, Good point.
So all right, moving on. So he finally gets to talk to
little Rusty, his younger self, and he brings his.
So this is a scene that we didn't watch.
So he brings it. He brings Rusty to the parking

(01:01:54):
lot of his job so his assistant could try and make him
disappear. And so she tries to like, put
like her coat over him and make him like Yamakazoo and then
tries to make him disappear. Doesn't work.
Doesn't work at all. And she can see him too.
Everybody can see Rusty. He's not know that.
No, he's not. In his imagination, people could

(01:02:16):
see Rusty. Yeah, it's weird.
Yeah. Yeah.
Where does little white boy comefrom?
This is not schizophrenia. So Amy thought that it was his
son, Russ's son. That's what she thought.
And I think some of those peoplethought that as well.
He doesn't just, he says to somepeople like, yeah, it's my

(01:02:37):
younger self and I'm like, the fuck are you talking about?
So it's, it's a little like, youknow, it's a little weird
because I, I don't think they could get away with Rusty not
being seen by others. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, they couldn't get away with it because he would
actually look like he has schizophrenia or some other

(01:02:58):
illness. And so they couldn't do that.
So they're like, you know what, Everybody can see him.
And so, and so now he drives Rusty, He tries to drive Rusty
to their their childhood home. And obviously they're in the
present, so they can't. There's like this other family

(01:03:21):
there and he's. It's an Asian family.
He's like, you're looking different here.
And there's the Asians walk out.It's like they're taking over
America, man, Let's be real. God damn, even in the 2000s,
taking over one city out of and,and, and then of course, now I,
I picked the scene because I liked the I wanted to show the

(01:03:44):
disdain that Russ has for Rusty,even though it is his younger
self. He hates, he hates him.
He's like, don't wipe your snot on my calfskin, see?
Yeah, I thought he said catskin.I was like what the fuck?
No, that's pure, pure young calf.
There you go skin there. Porsche didn't pay for your

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money. And then also just the just the
attitude little rusty has rust. He's like, at least I don't do
this, you know? Oh twitchy ass.
Yeah, exactly. Talking all that shit, it's
like, bro, you don't even have adog.
You don't have like a woman. You got nothing, man.
Like, what is this? Who am I?

(01:04:30):
Like what did I grow up into? What did?
I do. What?
I'm an image consultant. I wanted to be a pilot, so that
was also a thing too. They thought that they would
grow up, have this dog, a lab named Chester.
They would be a airplane pilot, and they would have a wife,
kids, all that fun stuff in a house.

(01:04:52):
Obviously, none of that happened.
So young, young Russ is not happy with what he grew into,
which I think a lot of us when we're children, we don't get to
have the opportunities to actually become the things that
we wanted to when we were younger.
We have a lot of dreams and aspirations for what we wanted

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to be and who we could become. And then as we get older and
life happens, those things kind of wear away.
And then we have to grow up and we have to get grown up jobs and
we have to make sure that we have all this money.
And it's funny, I think a lot ofus who I think people, I think

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our younger selves would be proud of who we are, but
confused, confused on where where we could have been because
everything felt like it was set up.
Now this before he found out some of the details that
happened in his life and he had to grow up at 8.
He had to grow up at 8 years old.

(01:05:57):
But it's always interesting thatin this movie, you know, we just
always see that we have that disappointment of like, what of
all these things that we said wewere going to do?
What happened to those? And Russ is just like, well,
look what else I did. I'm very successful in what I
do. Yeah, but you're alone in this
big ass glass house. Yeah, that's the next scene.

(01:06:20):
So don't have a lot for the scene because you tried
everything out. Well, but it's something to
point out is I want to ask our listeners.
So you're in this car, right? And you're going through this
trauma story or you're, you're, you're thinking about yourself
and you're trying to reflect on the past and you're with a
therapist or you're processing in your journal and your

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thoughts and you're going to your old home and you're trying
to remember like, oh, this is where I fell.
This is where that possum was very reflective, this scene and
trying to go back into the past and understand what happened,
what took place. Why am I like this, right?
So you can then change your future the next 30 years.
So it's a thing that a lot of usneed to do.

(01:07:03):
The client asked me today he's like, so how are you going to be
looking at at us in this session?
I'm like, what the fuck does that question mean?
He's like, what modality, what lens, what Christianity lands?
Like all these different things.I was like, so everything
affects the way I work with you and show up to talk to you.

(01:07:24):
And so I just started to rattle off all the intersections like
me and you do fence and pre production with with guests.
I literally just did that same thing and I said this is all the
stuff who and who I am and how I've grown to be the man I am
and the therapist I am. These are the modalities that it
might try, but this is what I really fully believe in is just
authenticity and bond and trust.And so to know yourself as a

(01:07:49):
therapist, a caregiver, neurodivergent, autistic is to
go back into the past. To understand your current, you
must understand the past. Love that part of the scene.
I what I want to ask our listeners is what?
Please in the comments write us DMS, text us or just please on
YouTube. Just go ahead and put it down or
Spotify. What did you want to be when you
want to grow up? Did you want to be a pilot?

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Did you want to be a ninja turtle like me or a power
Ranger? Did you want to be a fireman?
Did you want to be a nurse, a doctor, a lawyer?
Did you want to be a fucking magician?
I don't fucking know. Did you want to like, fucking
just make balloons? Wait a minute, he wants to be a
ninja turtle? I want who didn't want to be a
ninja turtle Bro They were just eating pizza in front of the.

(01:08:35):
Turtle in the sewer bro. You could do that now if you
wanted to. I mean they was eating.
Pizza like nunchucks and shit I.Had the nunchucks I had.
I kept hitting myself in the head.
I was too slow. I almost said a different word.
Yeah. Yeah, well.
I was too slow to do it man. It just seemed like so much fun

(01:08:56):
man. How do I get down there?
For real though, I never looked at man covers the same.
Can I get pizza through their leaves?
That'd be great. Thank you.
I started fucking with Domino's right after that because that's
what they always got was Domino's.
Yeah, shout out to Domino's Shut.
Off to Domino's still stuffed crisp pizza, now first time in

(01:09:16):
their history. Hey, they, you know, have you?
I've taken from Pizza Hut but it's fine.
Have you had it? I have not.
Is it good? Fucking crack.
Is it I have to try it? Bro.
I haven't had Domino's in a minute, I'll have to try it.
Bro I mean everyone's probably going to show if you all listen
to this, the actual people that do listen to this.
Have you tried Domino's? What's your preference in pizza?

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That's a little thing. Oh God, don't.
You're just hating your younger self.
I don't see I'm still fat though.
Why would I hate? I wasn't even fat when I was
younger. It's like you're.
Fat. It's like your younger self,
just like, look in the fucking mirror.
Mirror you. Fucking chubby chaser.

(01:10:01):
Don't look at me, look in the mirror.
Yeah, you're much fatter now, Nas.
For real. What did you want to be?
Everyone. What were your dreams, goals,
passions before? Like life, real jobs.
Spence. I was talking to a 13 year old
today, right? My youngest client I've ever had
who's kids cool as shit. He's like just thinking all the

(01:10:22):
time, man. I said what the fuck do you got
to think about? Literally the time where you
don't have to think bro like youcould just live.
That question did not go over the best.
He's like everything. And I'm like, you're so
autistic. I must think of every just
playing DVD or something, watch some Netflix.

(01:10:44):
Jesus. Jesus Christ.
I know. Spence 13.
I was like, kid, I was so honest.
I feel like I crushed him. I was like, that shit gets way
worse. Yeah, but it does.
You think like you're thinking. Now you're going to be thinking,
Oh my. God, I know.
Would you go through your gay phase?
That's a joke. I'm sorry, Jesus.

(01:11:04):
Christ, why would? You go through your religious
questioning phase, that'll get you too.
Christ, Yeah. Yeah, that's interesting.
They're all. There's so much to think about
as you get older. Dude, I.
Think like doesn't have to do with like phones and shit.
Like I feel like it's somewhat it does.
I'm like when I have kids, I just, I'm like, you're not

(01:11:27):
getting a phone till like you're15 or older because it's like
you don't need to be worrying about the shit that's out there
right now. You don't.
I want to make sure my kids are have as much as their youth as
they can. I don't need them growing up.
I don't need them being 8 years old and being with us.

(01:11:48):
I don't. I want them to be happy and
innocent as long as they can. That middle school grades don't
fucking matter. I don't think everyone's like it
all matters. No, that shit even matters until
like 10th or 11th grade. Let's be real.
Even that. Shit don't matter soon if you
graduate it's just like off to the next thing.
Yeah, you go to if and if you fuck around, you don't do good.

(01:12:09):
Like, I mean, you go to Community College and then go to
the big school like I did. Like it's fine.
Yeah, do construction or something.
Hey, they make bank bro all. Right, yeah, my electricians,
electricians and all that and the fuck, they make so much
money every time they come to the house, $1000.
I'm like do y'all just do you say I just pre write y'all
motherfuckers a check for $1000?Pretty much I pretty much have

(01:12:30):
to do for some people. Some bullshit man.
Fuck all electricians and plumbers and roofers.
Fuck all you guys. Shout out to all of you doing.
Fuck all you HVAC guys too. Fuck you guys too. 13.
You don't think she's got a lot to think about?
Fuck you man. We're gonna keep me cold during
the summers. Anyway, let's get to the next.

(01:12:51):
Scene talk about my trauma Jesus.
When at everybody I know, I hopethey see this and they're like
what the fuck you do? But yeah, we took your money,
you fat ass. Go learn how to put some wires
together, asshole I. Did I just keep getting
electrocuted? Yeah, well, get some gloves.

(01:13:11):
I don't know. I know I'm.
Autistic. Now anyway, well it was
electricity anyways, so next thing we have.
So there's this big fight between Russ and Amy.
She thought that he threw away this tape of this one of the
owners of like a baseball team because it made him look good.

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And it kind of, it was, it was very, very stupid, the video.
And so she was like, I, I, I don't want this.
You need to throw this out. And so he does throw it out, but
then she finds out that he actually got somebody to go in
the trash and pick it out for him.
So and she's pissed at him. And young Russ actually really

(01:13:59):
likes Amy. Amy even tried to propose to her
in the movie. He's like, will you marry us?
And she was like, maybe maybe because she sees just how
amazing he was as a kid and wishthat she could actually, you

(01:14:20):
know, get that vibe from him nowas an adult.
And so they go back to the houseand Rusty is or Rust, the older
Rust is actually feeling like pretty bad and feels like shit.
And he actually starts asking Rusty like, hey, just so you

(01:14:45):
know, like this is this is our life after in between of me and
you. So Rusty just asked like, why
are we such a have we always been losers?
Like have we always been a loser?
And he's like, we've been losersfor a pretty long time.
Pretty long time, but got somewhat better graduated top of

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his class from like what UCLA and like was on the track team
became very successful and he Russ does a great job of telling
all of the accomplishments whilelike sprinkling in a little bit
of like humility, just a little bit of humility.

(01:15:30):
But at the end of the day doesn't go any deeper then like
what's outside, right? He doesn't go any deeper.
He doesn't say that he feels like he's alone, doesn't have
anybody and he doesn't he just got, you know, his the one
person who really actually likeshim as a person.

(01:15:51):
He just Amy, he just kind of threw her away like that.
And yeah, I think Rusty's not only disappointed in like, not
just being not a pilot or anything, but also it's just
like, why are we, Why are we assholes?
Why are you such an asshole? Me Like, what the fuck?

(01:16:14):
Like you're supposed to be better.
And then he also does a great job of explaining what Russ does
for a living, making people who are not good people into what
they think they should be. And if that's not an explanation
of like who he is, you know, it's, it's what it is.

(01:16:39):
So. The trauma response, he turned
his trauma into his job, yes, changing your entire image so
you can get wealthier power and all this shit, right?
Accomplishments, admiration, butnever any true love.
Yeah, he betray everything because of that moment at 8
years old and people will think that's being dramatic now that's

(01:17:01):
real shit. That's what that shit happens, G
So this was the scene when they're in that in the house,
right, Spence? Yep, Yep.
They see me emotional as fuck, Bro, I don't even know, like I
know why, but I to talk to your younger self is wild thing to

(01:17:23):
do. So when little Nas is just
running around and just playing in the room or like I'm in
therapy and you just having a blast and like say this, say
that it's like the impulsive, like kid like things that I I
just have to say, like say it, say it and I'm like, no, Nas,
calm down, little guy. Like we got you know, you can't

(01:17:43):
just be saying wild shit. And I let him take the reins and
play sometimes. But I was thinking about
conversations that I've had withhim, my younger self, and like
the way the kids looking at him,just so soft, so, so naive, so

(01:18:04):
honest. Like, why are we doing this?
Like, what's going on? And I just thought of myself
talking to my younger self. And like, there's no way that
would have been a good conversation.
Homeboy was petrified, isolated,depressed, alone, just not
having a good time, just bullied, missing his father,

(01:18:26):
getting physically abused by hismother, grandmother, aunties.
It was just not a good time. But I had some magnificent,
magnificent friends. Yeah, one of them just got
married. I don't even really, I don't
talk to him anymore. I just cool to see, like my
childhood friend get married. That's fucking cool to see, like

(01:18:50):
people be happy. But yeah, talking to my younger
self, Spence, I don't, I don't even know if I wanted to talk to
like that younger kid. I feel like it'd just be trauma
dumping or you'd be like, hey man, this is the shit I'm
watching on Disney. Like real talk, I just watched a
fuck ton of Disney and played a fuck ton of video games and it

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was always alone too. Salim's doing his thing.
He's locked in the basement likehe ain't coming out.
So I'm like, Salim's taking careof me, but he's not talking to
me. So the younger version of me, I
have no idea, Spence. Like, even you, your younger
version, like, would they be in everyone listening?
Would your younger version be impressed, be saddened, be

(01:19:32):
overjoyed, be proud? Mine would definitely be proud.
And mine would also be like, what the fuck?
Like one of them would be like, we're not dead.
Like God didn't kill us when we asked him to all those nights.
Like, yeah, kid, we made it. Do you, Spence, not trying to
get super deep with things, right?
We'll keep it moving. But do you think the younger

(01:19:53):
version, he was like, look at all this stuff we got look at
jobs and we got a woman. Probably.
You got so many shoes. Probably not on the woman part,
no, like 8 year old me was not about fucking like women.
I don't know, man. I was flirting around.
I was always chasing girls. Even in second grade, I was
chasing girls. No, I just wanted to get my leg

(01:20:16):
out of those and chill and then just watch Fresh Prince of Bel
Air. Got a big ass Bronco Jeep and
shit like I know a younger version.
He's like, this is fucking nice,I.
Think so and I think it. I think my younger self would
have a great time with where I am.

(01:20:38):
But then also just like what? We couldn't be a basketball
player? What the fuck?
Oh yeah, it's like, why do my knees know?
Why do you have so many scars onyour knees?
Like, oh, right, forgot to tell you that.
Yeah, I think that would also besomething.
But at the end of the day, I as long as we're not dead in jail

(01:21:01):
or you know. Your mom's healthy.
Homeless. Yeah, I think we're good.
I think I think we're fine. I think maybe my younger self
would be like, oh OK, well things could have been worse.
We live very different lives, meand you versus all these other
folks that maybe listen to it. But I don't know, maybe there's

(01:21:23):
a lot of lower socioeconomic, like autistic.
There's going to be a lot of folks who would go through a lot
of shit that let's do it. We only have white women.
Why do? Women go through things.
True, they go through things. I know, I know.
I got my whole rosters full of them.
I love them. I say.
I talk so much shit to white women man.
And they listen to the pods too.That's why I love you.

(01:21:44):
I love you girlies love you lovemy neon divergent girlies love.
Y'all are precious as hell. They asked me, Spence.
They're like Nas, where am I at on the tier list?
I'm like, you're never going to beat the the brown autistic
girl. Ranked.
Yeah, they're ranked. There's an S tier and an A tier,
right? It's just like, it's just like a
video game. I'm like, girl, you'll never get

(01:22:05):
to S tier. It's fine.
It's all right, you know. They're like, this is racism.
I was like, it's fuck our mom. Yeah, you know what?
We can. Do I love them so much?
They're like Nas, why do you talk so much shit about us?
I'm like, calm down, just. Look at all the people that are
running shit white women. I'm like, girl, you're fine.
You can. Either white man, white woman,

(01:22:26):
either way. You'll get it from somewhere
else. You don't always have to get it
from me. Everybody want to talk about you
notice how there's no more blackboards anymore.
It's all whiteboards. Oh my God, they even took that
from us. Yeah.
Appropriation. Appropriation.
Those motherfuckers. Yeah, folks, let us know what
you wanted to be when you grew up.
Would you be proud of yourself right now or would you be a

(01:22:49):
little like sauce? Or would you be like, oh, we
actually did a lot of cool shit.Let us know what, what, what,
what the vibe was. This scene made me very
emotional because I was thinkingabout me talking to my younger
self and guiding him or coachinghim or just answering his
questions. And I was just the cutest little
kid, man. And all I wanted to do was just
like talk, but there was never people to talk to.

(01:23:10):
Sad, sad, sad. All right, next scene I don't
feel like crying. So yeah, fuck it.
Next theme, this is when both the Russ's go back to the past.
They started talking essentiallyabout just the older Russ wants

(01:23:33):
to ask younger Russ all the things that he tries to
remember, right? And he's just giving him like
all this random information justto help him try to remember the
past, 'cause it was difficult that he can't remember anything.
He's repressed everything so much.
And there was then he brings up about these these kids that were

(01:23:55):
bullies. And all of a sudden, older Russ
starts to remember things. He starts to get everything to
click. And then all of a sudden we also
see this red truck with this dogthat looks vaguely familiar to
one that they've always wanted. And then they come out of the

(01:24:16):
tunnel into the past 1983, whatever the fuck.
And and then, yeah, so then now they're in the past.
They're in Rusty's time. And now we're actually getting
the visualization of like actually looking back in the

(01:24:37):
past and act physically being inthe past and watching everything
go down from your older perspective, which then it
translates to the next scene, which is where there's this big
fight and older Russ wants to train younger Russ into boxing.

(01:25:00):
And so he brings them to his boxing friend and they learn how
to fight and he teaches them andhe beats up the bullies that
were tormenting this 3 legged dog Tripod in victory because
older Russ thinks that this is the moment where everything

(01:25:21):
changed because he can't remember, he doesn't know.
So they're both technically, they both don't know what's
going to happen because they've all he's repressed it and he
hasn't lived it yet. So they're both in this like
void of like, what was the thingthat made me come to now to
where I am with you, my older self?

(01:25:43):
Literally therapy, Trauma therapy in a nutshell is this.
This is literally how it works. Wouldn't it be interesting to
have like this probably be fucked up, but like having like
VR or something like that to where you can go back and like
reliffs? Or I know I am not doing that
shit. Hell no.

(01:26:04):
I. They've done before in movies.
They've done it. No, they've done.
It I'm good actually in a minority.
Report. That's what they do.
They have like. These so that you could you can
do like these similar. There was this like illegal
place where you like you could do like simulations of like you
killing your boss and shit like that or reliving the past and
shit like that. But like, yeah, when the AI

(01:26:28):
brings it back, just like in what was it?
I think it was Avengers Civil War or Captain America Civil
War, where Tony, he has like thesimulation of the last time he
talked to his parents. Oh yeah.
Yeah, yeah, something like that.Also there's like a whole thing

(01:26:48):
with like Bucky and how he has to relive all the trauma and
like go through it all where they're electrocuting him.
Yeah, well, yeah, they try to fucking erase his memory.
Every time. Yeah, it's fucked up.
Yeah, so. But yeah, I don't know too many.
I mean, trauma. There's so many pitfalls.
Yeah, but there are some good ass times too.

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Now don't get too. I would like to be like, man,
playing that Dreamcast, like hanging out, right.
Crazy Taxi. What is then?
What is like hypnosis then compared to that?
Is hypnosis close to that or is that something else?
So hypnosis can get or any hypnotic suggestion can get to
sometimes some lower stuff, right?
I, I'm, I'm not fully trained inthat or knowledgeable in the, in

(01:27:31):
the science behind it, but I do do some hypnotic meditation with
folks. And so they say that, you know,
you know, you could bring out some shit, right?
That also this is somewhat of EMDR, right?
Here's a lot of trauma processing, right?
Opening up the mind. So like more shit can come
through, more memories, more reprocessing and organizing and

(01:27:52):
then like calming the mind down.So hypnosis probably could be
used in that too. Don't fully know the way the
movies look like it is like, youknow, you get into quack like a
duck and shit. Yeah, which some people are more
suggestionable than others, right, 'cause even under when I
do it, some people more suggestible than others.
It's always fun to do with teams, sports teams, because

(01:28:13):
you'll see some people just tweaking.
So it may the smidge of that. I guarantee you there'll be
simulations to different stuff like that for people to go back
and kind of rewrite things free the trauma, anxiety, depression.
What's that thing called? Exposure therapy I bet you

(01:28:33):
there'll be different ways to doexposure therapy with a lot of
folks with like trauma or OCD tokind of work through things.
I think it would be really good for our population, though,
Spence, that are no divergent autisticated HD social skills
interactions, right? Working through interviews,
dating, making new friends. Like I think that'd be awesome
for our people to have like thisVR thing instead of just being

(01:28:55):
in their mind, right. And then I could be like a
character too, like when I'm always like, I would love to
just like watch you. They're like, what do you mean?
Like there's no like you're not a normal kid.
So I want to just see how you talk to another human.
Like you quacking like a duck. What's going on?
Fly on the wall, little. Fly just be like a little big

(01:29:16):
ass Roach just chilling on theirhead.
Jesus. Christ.
There's also a scene I'm remembering now from the TV show
Watchmen where what the main character she takes these pills
called nostalgia. Oh yeah.
They're all the memories from like her great grandfather and

(01:29:39):
or her grandfather and she takesthem and then now she's reliving
all of his like traumatic experience.
Yeah, because those pills were like encapsulated from that
machine and they were manufactured.
Yeah, so they were like, they were literally his, his memories
that he picked. He picked those memories.
So he relived all of those, all those traumatic.

(01:30:02):
To put it in the pills. Yes.
And so he would take those just to keep on like remembering what
would happen. So that was also something kind
of go with the memory. But yeah.
Random, random tangent and then we'll get back to the scene,
Pops, for those of you who know my father, right, it's
autoimmune disease, full body atrophy, kind of like ALS, but

(01:30:23):
it's not something different called probably myositis, full
body inclusion, probably myositis, something like that.
So he had failed like about a month ago, maybe maybe two
months ago now, he had, I was atwork and he had fell and was
unconscious in the kitchen. And so I have cameras all
throughout the house so I can like talk and like this and that

(01:30:44):
and see things. And so Oh yeah, that's right.
I called Spencer. I was like, holy fuck, dude, I
need you to call the house like what's going on?
So he's OK everyone, it's OK. Doing much better now.
I got better medicines now, but he's like, I want to see the
film. And I was like, I'm not fucking,
I'm not showing you the film. I'm not going to look at the
film. And then finally one day I was

(01:31:05):
like, I actually had the balls to go and look at it like 20
days later because they delete out I think after 60 days on my
Google and think I could feel myheart rate fucking pumping
Spence because I didn't want to see it.
And thankfully it didn't catch it.
They caught him right before he went into the area where he fell

(01:31:25):
and then right. And then afterwards you just see
him on the floor, but he doesn'tactually show the fall.
And I was like, think I didn't want to see it.
It was going to be so traumatizing to relive that
because I've seen it so many times.
While I would say this like a lot of fucked up memories some
of us don't need to relive, but it could be helpful in many
different ways. Be crazy for my dad to like dump

(01:31:50):
some of his like moments into mybrain.
Hopefully he would pick like some good ones.
Pause all of you. If you were to pass on your
memories, which ones would you select?
Would it be good ones like just my favorite Pokémon?
Let me show you why. Or would it be like what if?

(01:32:10):
What would it be like fucked up shit?
I don't know what it would be for me with there's probably
like 1520 moments. I would pick good and bad, good
and bad core memories. I got some that have burned into
my brain that if people wanted to understand me, they should
know these core memories, which these core memories in which I
don't tell anybody. Interesting.

(01:32:34):
It's a great fucking movie, man.This is wild.
It's too much in this movie. Talking about the past.
Talking about the past, the. Future.
The present What's? Happening.
I mean, it's even kind of ironic.
And then we'll keep them moving.But like, even Bruce, like,
right. I wonder what memories he would
pass now that he's, you know, he's losing them.

(01:32:54):
I know. It's terrible.
I feel like a lot of folks with dementia would like to pass on
the things to the children or grandchildren.
Great grandchildren, right? Their legacy could live on and
the people could experience Thatwould be dope.
Yeah, that's what like, the pills were made for in the show.
They were four people with dementia, so that then they can

(01:33:17):
remember things. But then people started, you
know, they started just taking them for, like, odd reasons and
stuff like that. And so then they stopped making
it. But yeah.
And I, I think that would be great too.
Just be like, oh, yeah, rememberthat.
All right. Like oh, didn't know that about
them. Have you watched the new Black

(01:33:38):
Mirror series or? No, I haven't watched the new
the new season, Yeah. You know, they were uploading
everyone to the AI. That was some trippy ass
episodes. For me, like I've watched like a
few episodes of it and I was just like, they're going to meta
like, you know, like, but because like for every episode I
watch, I have to be like on it. I feel like, what did this mean

(01:34:00):
this and this mean that? And I'm like, I don't feel like
doing that right now. I don't feel like ever being
that fucking. Like I don't they like there are
some things I watch that are met, like Severance.
That's like a very meta show andall that.
But like, I don't know. Also like I'm sometimes I'm just

(01:34:22):
an asshole where I don't want towatch like what everybody else
is watching when it comes to that.
Everybody's like, that's fucking.
Amazing, I avoided it for years.Dude I I think I watched it like
during the pandemic. Yeah, like I didn't get into
like Game of Thrones until like they were on like their third or
fourth season. Like I didn't, I didn't watch it
yet. So sometimes I just sometimes I

(01:34:42):
get in that where I'm like, I'm going to wait 'cause I don't
want to be disappointed. I get it.
I. Get it?
It's like that bad that you've been thinking about for a while,
you know, I'm going to wait to think about it, you know, and
then it disappointment. Girl, you smell like shit.
The fuck going so many directions went that way.

(01:35:07):
Well, let's keep it moving all. Right.
So Rusty fights off these littlekids and he wins the fight and
they think like, that's it. No, I won the fight.
That's all I needed to do. Now we're good now we're solid
right now we can get over all this stuff.

(01:35:29):
And then Russ actually rememberswhat happens in real life.
So it turns out that his mom is actually very sick.
Probably cancer. It's.
It's always cancer. I mean, it's what kills so many
of us, so. I know, but like, I feel like
it's even more now. Like anytime somebody was like,

(01:35:52):
Oh yeah, my parents dying, it's like it's always fucking cancer.
It's never anything else. It's never like anything at all.
It's always cancer. Not like a coconut falling on
their head, it's just always. Like an accident or something
get hit by a bus. Getting hit by a bus doesn't
happen anymore, right? Like car accidents don't happen.
Apparently it's always just cancer.

(01:36:15):
It is. Could have got the flu or
something. Pneumonia.
Nothing. Nope, Cancer.
Anyways, yeah, I was going to say another jumper that was
going to be terrible. Yeah, yeah.
So anyways, so finds out she we find out that she's very sick.
She goes to pick up Rusty from the principal's office and we

(01:36:40):
find out also it's his birthday,right?
His birthday. And like this all coincides
because he's about to turn 40, which is a big turn around year
for a lot of people nowadays. It's like 30.
It's like 40 of them. Like you're old as fuck now it's
like 30. It was like the big year but and

(01:37:03):
then everything kind of coincides with his birthday so
he starts seeing little Russ on his before his birthday and now
on his birthday he actually is realizing all of the traumatic
things that have happened to him.
Anyways then they go home and the dad very pissed off at Rusty

(01:37:27):
because the mom wasn't supposed to leave the house and she had
to leave the house to go pick him up from school after he got
into a fight and shakes him aggressively and tells him to
stop crying. Which we see why he hates
crying. He hates when people cry and he
doesn't cry. Talks about the way ambulance

(01:37:49):
all the time. Then we also see where he gets
his twitch from and his dad tells him to grow up.
Just grow up. And so all Bruce Willis's Russy
Russ can do is just watch again and remember exactly what
happened. I did.

(01:38:11):
I don't know about you, but I did like the take where he's
just like, as you know, he's 40 years old and he's just like,
dad was just scared. He didn't he, he was just
scared. Now he has to raise you and then
you also had like a sister, but I don't know if that came later
on or not, but he's scared to raise you alone and he doesn't

(01:38:35):
know how to do it. That fucking this is a kids
movie and it's just it's home. It's home.
And then he also talks about like Rusty talks about was it
his fault that mom died? He's like, no, no, of course
not. Why would it be?

(01:38:55):
She was she was sick before thisso it wasn't going to get any
better. And then of course he hugs
himself and he just it look, he forgives himself his younger
self and is finally ready to just understand and get along

(01:39:20):
with the fact that this stuff happened.
Yeah, accept it, process it, move through it to finally
comfort the younger self, right?You see him being more kind,
accepting to the kid version, right?
Nurturing, caring. He cries.
He's like, I guess I'm starting to back up kid ambulance.

(01:39:41):
You see him connecting right with he become, he's becoming
one now, right where you're disconnected, dissociated, now
you're becoming one and like powerful.
So I think that's the big thing that Spence people need to do is
you need to become one. You need to merge the
identities. You don't always keep them
segregated or alone or isolated.You have to merge them all.

(01:40:03):
It's kind of like the movie thatwe did with Sammy Sullivan on
Inside Out is where anxiety, fear and all that shit, anger,
happiness, joy, right? They all hug each other at the
end and then that's when she gets the healing and that's when
she can reconnect with her friends.
It's all about hugging all the identities, even the traumatized
little fat kid that you don't like.

(01:40:25):
Wild scene. Obviously I, I cried in that
one. I cried when he's yelling at the
kid and shaking him and he's I found the screw, right?
He's talking about I found the screw.
Here's the screw. So he's like super traumatized
and he keeps saying the screw thing, right?
I've been there and like, look, look, look, look, look, I did

(01:40:46):
it. I solved it and the other person
just fucking reaming you out I feel like.
Because he's a kid. He doesn't understand that.
Not he. Doesn't understand what's going
on. He doesn't know.
I mean, he just found out in that way that his mom's dying.
His mother's dying. Like he just found out.
Kids all fucked up. Kids all fucked up, right?
And then the dad to be shake him, shake him, shake him like,

(01:41:09):
bro, what are you doing, bro? Yeah, what are you doing?
And I get it, right? He's losing his wife, his
partner, his best friend. He's not prepared to be a dad.
I was talking to a, a, a parent recently and and you know, I've
talked to humans all the time now and then, then one of them

(01:41:29):
was like, hey, man, my partner would have died from this.
I'm checking out right? And I asked very pointed
questions to see like 100%. I was like, what would, what
would happen to the kids? He's like I don't even know, but
it's I had no way I was going tolose my partner like this and I
was like I get it. I'm fully agree with it, but
homie, but I get it. I get it anyway.

(01:41:53):
I. Get that I understand.
It's fucked up. Yeah, it's fucked.
It's fucked up, but also you can't do it to the babies.
No, because then what? Then who do they have?
Who they got, they got what yourgrandparents, aunties, uncles.
It's just, you know, they're going to lose both parents.
But humans got a lot of reasons for it and then this person had
a lot of reasons on why they couldn't make it.

(01:42:14):
Thankfully their person is like doing good and healthy and
everything's fine. But you have to raise kids on
your own G tough. You just lose your partner
tough. I'm sure the dad was a shit
after that. Depressed as fuck probably.
You know I'm not saying that alldudes drink but probably using
substances. He's probably coping and someone

(01:42:36):
who knows maybe he did fantastic.
I assume he didn't because she continued to get weird as as
young Bruce. Yeah, and as we saw in the
beginning of the film. Not connected at all.
He still has a strained relationship with his father.
So after this, they didn't, theydidn't show like they they
didn't show like, you know, the relationship after that with the

(01:42:58):
dad. But I feel like after that, I
think he became more open to it because I'm sure he was angry
and he didn't know why, right? He didn't know why because he
couldn't remember back then. So he couldn't remember what why
he was angry at his dad and whathe did because he repressed it
all and buried it down. So it's like now that he

(01:43:22):
remembers and now he's in a likehe's forgiving.
I think that then now he can actually get past that and
actually talk to his dad and hisfamily overall because he's, you
know, he doesn't fuck with any of his family members.
None of them. Nothing.
No friends, no family, wild scene.
But now we understand what makesa person.

(01:43:42):
And this isn't over dramatized. This is how that shit kind of
works man. They can fuck with you.
You can schism some stuff. Very realistic.
I think that's why it's worse, right?
Or like, not worse, but you know, it's way more.
It gets to you a little bit morebecause it's a lot more
realistic. So real, yeah.

(01:44:04):
Right. Parents divorce all the time.
Parents get sick all the time. Parents have psychiatric issues
and maybe lose their beans and like, get hospitalized.
Maybe they don't get normal. Maybe they're always different
after that. Maybe they always got some type
of psychosis or maybe the sibling does and they need a ton
of attention. And so you change as a kid, you
alter as a kid to make sure the family works better.

(01:44:28):
Yeah, it's, it's heavy, heavy, heavy.
Love that he embraced the littlekid and cried.
Man, those are one of those. Bruce Willis, bro.
I know. 'Cause he was seen like, he was
seen as like the action star, the guy, like he's had roles
where it's not just, you know, die hard and stuff like that.

(01:44:48):
But that was his main thing. Die Hard.
Yeah, yeah. Like being that action star.
And now finally get to see him cry and just be emotional.
I think that's what fucks me up right now too though.
I think like Kim being like thisand then knowing kind of what's
going on now with his family andloved ones, and like seeing him
laughing and smiling and talkingshit, right?

(01:45:09):
And not just like that stoic dude and then crying, bro.
I think that fucked me up too, not gonna lie.
I think that adds some seasoningto it, right?
I just feel so bad. I feel so good that his family
loves him so much, his current family, the rest of his other,
you know, family and his his ex-wife is there, right and just
supporting him. I'm like, that's good fucking
people, bro. They're taking Christmas photos

(01:45:30):
together and just being there and the current wife is allowing
right the acts to be there. It's just I'm like, this is just
he must have lived a good life, bro.
To have that many good people around him.
He had to have been a good fucking dude.
Oh. Yeah.
Oh yeah. Had to been a good dude.
You don't have good, you don't have people like that around at
the end if you're not a good dude.
It's true. It's no, it's true.

(01:45:51):
So I think there's some meta in that too.
Let's get to these last couple scenes because these were very
powerful too. Yeah, last one actually.
So after after this moment and this clarifying moment of like
where they how they got to wherethey are now, they're back in

(01:46:12):
that diner, back in that imaginary diner.
And all of a sudden Chester, thegreatest dog in the world comes
up to them, follow them outside and they meet the future Russ,
who became a pilot, has a great loving family and the greatest

(01:46:37):
dog in the world, Chester. So he not only got to and he
gets to say, hey, you got any questions?
Well, you can answer them because you got 30 years.
Yeah, 30 years. And then obviously it looks like

(01:46:58):
Amy and him reconcile and they actually come married.
And have a nice family together.So Luke's and I, I wanted to add
this scene because you can't just end it.
You can't end it on the last seen before.
You can't. That's way too traumatized.

(01:47:18):
You got to end it on this where there's a positive note where
even though, even though all this traumatic things happened,
he got to do the thing that he'salways wanted to do.
You put in the work. Yes, he put in the work.
Put in the fucking work. And if that's not like a great
story and a great thing to tell about how if you can confront

(01:47:43):
these past traumas, you can comeout on top and be even better
than what you were before. Because he's successful.
He is successful. He can retire and be done, but
he wouldn't be happy, right? He wouldn't be happy because he
doesn't have those other things that make him happy.
He doesn't have a family. He doesn't have anything to kind

(01:48:05):
of glue on to. He doesn't have a demeanor that
people want to be around. And so this is a great
storytelling about how even though you can be an asshole,
you can always turn yourself around.
People can change all the time. It happens, but you got to put
in the work. Kid was fucked up for so much

(01:48:27):
man. I mean, dad was hard on him his
entire life and tweaked out him all the time, loses his mother.
His dad probably took a lot of things out of him after that.
He's getting bullied at school and beat up at school and being
whatever because he's different,weird, fat, right?
And so just a loser. And he said you're going to stay

(01:48:48):
a loser in high school too. So he continued to get harassed
throughout high school and worked and worked and worked and
made something of himself. But in there he lost himself,
but but he survived. So the goal when you get to my
office is a hungry fuck. Didn't matter.

(01:49:09):
Whatever you did, it is what it is.
It guide you to survive, to live.
You didn't kill yourself. I'm glad you're here.
Let's start working on some shitnow.
Let's be better now. Let's let's try to be healthier.
Bit by bit, maybe we lessen on the substances, the alcohol, the
pain. Maybe you start trying to make
some friends. Maybe we don't even fuck with
friends or romance. Maybe we just talk to me and

(01:49:30):
that's where we start kicking itwith me in therapy.
But like, how do we start getting where you need to be?
Because as a kid it looks like you were very much wanting to be
with people, but you got shit onand abused and abandoned and
rock thrown at you, right? He lost his best friend at Young
and fuck with you now. Yeah, right.

(01:49:50):
I got clients now. I got a client particular right
now. Said my biggest trauma and why
they're so anxiously attached tofriends now is because they got
fucked over a lot when they werein middle school.
I said yeah, fuck with you. And you develop this
personality, these defense mechanism expenses, you're going
to shut off the world. They always tell me too, Nas.

(01:50:11):
I just don't want to talk to anyone.
I just rather just be alone and like safe and just die.
One of my favorite humans, the girl, he wants us to do that,
which we're going to get to that, that poet society one that
way. I had saved.
Yeah. I was listening to a song.
And I don't even listen to musicreally anymore because I'm just

(01:50:33):
too busy. So I'll play shows or movies
when I'm working out. Right?
Watching basketball games. And his song comes on.
This this black guy, I forgot his name.
It's called jealous and talks about I'm jealous of the world.
I'm jealous of of you. I thought after you left me or
I, you know, you would find nothing but misery and that's
not what happened. You end up being happy and like

(01:50:55):
fine. And it just the saddest like
song. I thought of my kiddo that's
been left behind by so many people, this neurodivergent
girly and it made me just so sad.
So I I sent her the e-mail of the song.
I said I'm thinking of you kiddo.
Hope you're doing OK. Hope this semester finish good.
And here's this song. It hurts to be abandoned, be

(01:51:15):
called too much, awkward, boring, all this other shit.
It hurts, man. So the kid, Bruce loves him.
And then you see this reconciliation with the dancing
and dancing and they're being a bit and Bru and he's being a kid
rather pinnacle peak happiness, the way he looks at those, his

(01:51:37):
wife. Oh shit, the dog, right?
And they got the little baby stroller thing and all that
shit, right? That's some deep shit bro.
Yeah. Put in the work, do some
healing, do some searching, sometalking, some journaling, some
writing, some you know. Get out of that survivor mode.

(01:51:59):
Eventually, when you're safe enough to do it, Watch certain
things like this. Listen to podcasts like this.
Right. It doesn't always have to be
fucking self improvement shit. Sometimes you can just have some
fun with me and Spencer, just vibe, right?
That's why we make the jokes andI, I say stupid shit, you're not
laughing, you're crying. Sometimes it's a good ass movie,

(01:52:21):
man. It's wild.
I didn't think this was coming. Yeah, man.
Watch the whole thing now. Yeah, I know.
I got so much shit I'm about to crank out in the next like
couple months that I have for, you know, I got the long road
trip coming up so I'll knock it out then too.
Yeah. Hopefully folks will check this
out. Man, it's a banger.
You got any other soft sports, Spence?

(01:52:42):
No, that's all. Everybody go watch Disney's The
Kid featuring Bruce Willis. I think, you know,
unfortunately, when Bruce passes, whenever that is, this
will be one of those films that they say the which was so
underrated. I think they'll say it's

(01:53:02):
underrated because not everybodytalks about this.
Anytime you talk about Bruce Willis, it's usually Die Hard or
some other movie like that, you know?
Red. Wasn't he on that one with the
no? Was that Keanu?
Who's on the one with the buses going real fast?
Yeah, that's Keanu. That's Keanu speed.
Speed. My bad.
I was close. It was one of the other white
guys. I just watched another film with

(01:53:24):
him that was great called Cop Out with Tracy Morgan.
Yeah, that was good. That was good.
That was. That was hilarious and it didn't
it it's he's always in these films that don't get the credit
until later on. Let.
Me. Go look at the show bro.
Film. That's a great one.
How about it was? Let me go look up Bruce Willis
movie just in general. Oh yeah, let's do it.

(01:53:47):
Listen real quick. And then we'll end on like a
really happy note. Yeah, movie.
Let's see, we got Pulp Fiction. Fantastic, yeah.
The Sixth Sense. Bro.
Watched it 'cause that was so. Good.
The fifth element. That's one we gotta.
Do that favorite. We gotta do it.
That's like one of the biggest sci-fi movies of all time.

(01:54:10):
It's Armageddon. Yeah, he did.
He was an Armageddon. I forgot about this, bro.
I saw that shit in theater, bro.I was tweaking, yeah.
Unbreakable, that was also. That was really good, yeah.
We did split the other versions or no, sorry.
That's definitely the Unbreakable was good.
There was a couple versions of Unbreakable I think.
He did so many red box films. He did.

(01:54:32):
He did, man. I bet some of them are good
though, like some of those filmsare actually pretty dope.
Yeah, he wasn't split. I thought he was.
Yeah. Yeah, he wasn't split.
Yeah, because that was the otherversions.
He was his character from Unbreakable, correct?
Yep. Monkeys, remember that. 12
Monkeys, that was crazy, that was.
Sin City, remember that since. Oh yeah, I forgot he was in Sin

(01:54:57):
City. That was a good looper.
Was good. Looper was Oh my gosh, yeah, him
and Joseph Gordon Levitt. So good.
Expendables forgot about that. Moonrise Kingdom, That's a good
one. That was a Wes Anderson film,
and I think it might been the only Wes Anderson film he was
ever in, but that was also a good one.

(01:55:19):
Oh, she's red. Red 2 Expendables. 16 blocks,
remember that. Over the Yeah, you said over the
hedge, Tears of the sun. I feel like I've seen that one.
I feel like I've seen that one. Can't remember, though.
All the diehards, All boys. Oh yeah, boys.

(01:55:41):
The last Boy Scout. That was really good one with
Damon Wayans. It was like a action comedy,
really good. He didn't really get into films
till the 80s. That's great.
Yeah, I know. It's actually he started off
when he was older. Demi Moore is the axe.

(01:56:02):
Yeah, she's the one that's been supporting him by and show.
I love, I love that relationship, man.
Also The Jackal, the film that inspired the show on Peacock.
I think it is the Jackal. Great show and then the movie
was pretty good too. Let's let's do the fifth

(01:56:24):
element. Let's do the.
Full 9 yards, Forgot about that.One that was good.
Matt LeBlanc. Yep, yeah, let's let's, let's do
another Brucey 1. Wayne did a Brucey one in a
while man. Let's do another Brucey.
Actually, this might be the first Bruce Willis one that
we've I don't. Think, yeah, I don't think we've
never done any die hards. We definitely haven't done red.

(01:56:46):
No, there's some good shit in Red.
Red was some traumatic shit too.Red was a great one.
Yeah. Fifth Element, yeah, we'll do
that one. So let's do it here, folks.
Fifth Element, You're going to be doing that one with Brucey.
Yep, and we definitely got to get Chris Tucker being wild in
that shit too. Oh my God.
Got to do it, got to do it. What a film.

(01:57:08):
That shit was a staple. Bro, Gary Oldman, he is one of
those actors that you're like, this dude has so much range.
He he's played everybody. And I'm not even joking, he's
played everybody. He even played a little person.
Jesus Christ. He got it so stupid.

(01:57:28):
He got on his knees and he. Started.
What can I just? Eat shit.
I mean, what is it called it? I remember Daniel Tosh made fun
of this movie. It's called it's, it's one of
them. And it has Matthew McConaughey

(01:57:51):
in it too. OK, let me see old Gary Oldman.
You know Gary Oldman, the researcher.
Hip toes. That's what it's called.
It's called tiptoe. It's so bad.
Wild. It's what the worst.
The people that the shit that gets produced is.
Wild. It's crazy, even.

(01:58:13):
What's his face from Game of Thrones is in it.
Peter Dinklage. Oh, for real?
Oh, then that one. Sorry.
OK, not in Fifth Element. Yeah.
He's in that one. No, no he's not in 5th.
Element, Fifth element, bro, I was, I remember watching that
shit when I was a baby bro, Babythat should be on at like 1:00
in the morning on like TNT or True TV or whatever, the fucking

(01:58:33):
FX or whatever. Definitely TNT.
Yeah, yeah, whatever it was backin the day, that was the shit I
was watching. Oh yeah, it was.
It's definitely one of the best sci-fi.
Movies it is we're going to get to it super good.
Let's we'll get into that next and then and then we'll go from
there. Enjoy the guests that we got
coming up next. We all appreciate y'all.
Yeah. Thank you, everybody.
I'm Spencer. That's not a different special

(01:58:54):
pack. All right, everyone, much love
and remember, take care of yourselves.
Or don't. Completely up to you.
Peace. Tony, Tony.
Tony.
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