Why Humor is Survival | The Vibe with Ky Joins Us for Children of Men [ ⁨@TheVibeWithKy⁩ ] - Different Spectrums Podcast ™️

Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
(00:00):
Attention Welcome to the Different Spectrums podcast.
We dive into the wild world of mental health discussions.
Get ready for profound talks, a sprinkle of humor and sarcasm,
and a touch of colorful language.
Just a quick heads up, our show reflects our individual
opinions, which may not align with the standpoint of the

(00:21):
podcast, our featured guests, orany related corporate entities.
Our mission? To illuminate through laughter
and satire because everyone needs a good chuckle.
Chill out and don't stress over the small stuff.
Legal troubles? No thank you.
Cancel culture, please spare us.We'd rather keep this space

(00:43):
lawsuit free, So buckle up, havea good time, and join us as we
navigate the vibrant realm of mental health on the Different
Spectrums podcast. Hey everybody, we back again.
Hey, we're back. We're live.

(01:03):
I'm Spencer Yaghos and of course, we have our licensed
clinical therapist, Naz. Freshly shaved bald and
beautiful. Hey.
Oh, he's in it now. Don't be hitting on.
Me now. Oh no, I'm good looking.
OK, Jesus, continue. Remember, don't take us too

(01:26):
seriously. Or do that's completely up to
you there. You go.
Also, don't forget to run up those likes for us.
We'd really appreciate it. So as you can see, we have a new
guest for today. Our guest is an entrepreneur,
podcaster and creative who has built a platform all about
positivity, authenticity, and mental health awareness.

(01:48):
Through his work on Vibe with Kai, he sparked conversations
around kindness, breaking stigmas, and finding joy in
everyday life. Please welcome Kyrus Keenan
Wescott. Wow, look at that introduction.
That's right, all a shy homie. It's a shame.
It's all a lie. It's all it's a shame.

(02:08):
It's all bullshit. It's all a lie.
I'm. Actually a white man.
Surprise surprise, I'm white. Oh my God, Titan Bixby.
Jesus, I've been doing that for years.
Look at me and my privilege. Let's.
Go back to like a yearbook photos like the whitest kid in
his class. Oh my God.

(02:30):
Jesus, that's a great way to start this podcast.
It is. It's fine.
Welcome this white man. Yeah, welcome.
Well, those were. That was Season 1 through 3.
We're going a little bit brownerthis season.
That's. Right we.
We're doing things here. We're trying.
We're trying. We're.
Trying, we're trying. But anyways, thank you for

(02:52):
coming on, Kai. We really appreciate it.
Awesome, awesome. So for today, we are actually
going to be focusing on the movie Children of Men, featuring
Clive Owen, Michael Caine, and Julianne Moore.
So some things that we're going to be talking about, we're

(03:12):
talking about sacrifice. We're going to be talking about
masking fear with humor and alsohow humor can be a coping
mechanism. And there's some other things in
there about this plot that probably speak to today just a
little bit. Just a wee bit.
And then also just, yeah, talking with Kai.

(03:34):
So nice. Anything before we get into the
show. Yeah, there's a couple things
that start to me, obviously the the one scenes intense, right?
I mean, someone dies. So, you know, trigger warning
for a few folks. Someone about to get shot.
It's not the black guy this timeit's not.
Finally. It's an old white man.
It's about time. Why do you think I like this

(03:56):
with me? Question.
Mark Jesus. Yeah.
So that was good. But there was a monologue
before, folks, which I really enjoyed too.
Is is this person thinking and stewing and visualizing and
feeling? And so you were talking and
about some stuff and I just like, Yep, I know that that

(04:16):
stare when other people are talking.
Yeah, that's my job. Yep.
OK, can't wait to talk about that.
I'm really excited to kick it with you.
Right. I've seen ton of your content,
tons of guests. No, couple of the guests you've
had. We've we've had as well too.
Always smiling, always happy as shit.
Dudes like I've enjoyed your content.
Try to get you on last year. You're like, hey man, just shoot

(04:37):
me an e-mail. I'll get on.
And I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll get to it.
And yeah, I might have fucked that up.
So a year later, you know. Here we are, you know, it
happens. Here we are.
You, you know, as long as you have been, you know, I'll get
you there. It just might take me a while to
get you, you know, to get you there, you know?
It's all we're all here now, man, You know, that's all that
matters. I was trying to make a cum joke

(04:58):
but OK so let's get into the podcast.
Who the hell? 'S me all right?
Whoop, whoop, whoop. Whoop you.
Just crack it up man. You got to say whoop you at.
The wrong time, fool. Give us a whoop whoop, brother.

(05:23):
Me, yeah. Whoop, whoop.
Thank you. There you go.
Now we can start. The show now we can begin it's.
The Chism bro, if you don't do it, it fucks everything.
Up. I don't want to throw off the
Chism vibes. Yeah.
Gosh. All right.
Nice. Spencer, you knew where I was
going with that joke, right? I'll get you there.

(05:47):
You were talking to yourself that whole time to say no.
No, I was like, I'll get you there, I'll get you there, I'll
get you there. Oh.
Man, Oh, you're talking about the hole.
You usually bury them and I'll get you there.
I'll get you there. That would have been a good one
too. Among 1,000,000 protesters in a
rally by chance. But they were there because of

(06:09):
what they believed in in the 1stplace, their faith.
They wanted to change the world and their faith kept them
together. But by chance, Dylan was born.
This is him. Yeah, that's it.
It'd have been about your age. Magical child.
Beautiful. Their faith put in praxis.

(06:32):
What happened? Chats.
It was their sweet Little Dream.He had little hands, little
legs, little feet, little lungs.In 2008, along came the flu
pandemic. And then, by chance, he was

(06:55):
gone. Ah, Jesus.
You see, Theo's faith lost out to chance, so why bother if
life's going to make its own choices?
What a baby's got Theo's eyes. Yeah, that's terrible.

(07:17):
But you know, everything happensfor no reason.
That I don't know, but Theo and Julian would always bring deer.
You love them. It's the alarm someone's

(07:41):
breaking in. What is it?
Look at this. Jasma, hurry up.

(08:02):
Where's jealous? Take the back path to the main
road and follow the map I've given Miriam.
What are you talking about? Wait for seed in the old school
in Watchville Rd. in Rye. Give him this and tell him he's
a fascist pig. We.
Need to get Janice. We're not going here.
What are you talking about? Well, you you don't need an
anchor. No, if Jasper, you're coming.
You need time. We'll stall him.

(08:23):
I'll send him the wrong way. It's the best idea.
Go on. Go on.
Jasper. Theo.
I've told my way out of the worst things than this.
Believe me, go on go. Oh, and remember, tell Sid he's
a fascist pig. She would never say where she

(09:03):
came from yesterday. Don't matter if it's gone while
the sun is bright or in the darkest night, no one knows.

(09:29):
She comes and goes. Goodbye Ruby Tuesday.
Who could hang the name on you when you change with every New
Day Steel? I'm going to miss you.

(10:14):
Hey amigo Pot. Look at the Theo phone, we know
he was here a few weeks ago. So you've been back?
Theo phone? Oh I haven't seen him in loose.
There's biscuits and coffee on the side.
Help yourself. Come on, have a great light now.
Light now. What we got?
Here, Luke, it's a dead woman and dog inside.

(10:37):
They're going to Bexhill. When did they leave?
When did they leave? Pull my finger.
Pull my finger. I'll do it.

(11:01):
Fuck you put my finger.

(11:21):
I'm so. Sorry, don't you fucking touch
me. You tell me the fucking reason
in that it's. All part of a bigger thing.
Shut up. Shut up and get in the fucking
car. Jasper.
It's fine. Everything's fine.

(11:46):
Hey everyone, I'm here to talk about our new collaborator,
Twink Toys. They have a wide selection of,
you guessed it, toys and other great collectibles.
They have products from Marvel, Star Wars, Harry Potter, and
everything pop culture. You could say they put the toy
in Twink, so go check them out at twink.com and use our Code

(12:14):
Different Spectrums podcast to get 10% off your entire order
today. All right, and we're back again.
I got to take a crap. OK, yeah, let's do this.
Go ahead. All right, yay.
All right, So Kai. Yes, Sir, Yeah.

(12:38):
You've built such a uplifting and positive just brand around
vibe with Kai. What inspired you to start it
and also, what does the name really mean to you?
Sure. Yeah.
It all started back in 2018 whenthree things happened to my
life, to me, in my life, all at the same time. 1A very close

(13:00):
friend of mine, Ashton, my best friend, one of my best friends
passed away suddenly. On top of that, the relationship
I was in for the last few years at that point had suddenly
ended. And on top of that, I also
ruptured my Achilles, complete rupture playing basketball.
So like all three of those things happened in three weeks
and I was not happy. It was, it was bad and I was

(13:25):
probably at the lowest point of my life in that in that time
frame. And I went months feeling low,
both mentally and obviously physically.
And I knew that I wanted to workmy way out of that funk that I
was in. So I and I wanted to document it
so that nobody would feel the way that I was feeling because I

(13:46):
knew the way that I was feeling.I wouldn't want anybody else to
feel this way because there was times I didn't want to like
legitimately be here anymore. And so I started documenting my
recovery both physically and mentally.
And I at the time, I called it good vibes with Kai.
And then in 2020, when the worldcaught on fire, it switched over

(14:09):
to the vibe with Kai because I, I learned just from a mental
health standpoint, like not all vibes are good.
And but that's, that's also not a bad thing, right?
Like it's like there's, there's vibes where you're feeling sad,
like there's vibe when you're feeling angry.
Like all of those, all of those feelings are valid feelings to
have. It's all about what you do with

(14:30):
those feelings after the fact. So I didn't want to just focus
just on good vibes. That's why like you'll never
hear me say things like good vibes only, right?
Because I don't believe in that.So.
So it just turned into the vibe with Kai and that's where we are
today. Where are we vibing at today?

(14:51):
We vibing where? Yeah, we're we're vibing.
Good today. Today is a good day.
OK? Today is a good day.
We're vibing well. Today.
You said you wasn't good. We're well.
We're well, you said you was tired.
You're bullshit now you're lying.
I'm tired. No.
Why are you lying? I can.
I can be tired and feel OK. I'm just tired.
I'm not in a bad mood. I'm just tired.
I don't want to live here anymore.

(15:12):
I'm. Not it's not.
It's not mutually exclusive. Like I can I I'm tired, but I'm
also happy. OK, same.
I'm blessed. Fair enough.
I concur with that vibe. Spence check in.
How's the vibes today? You vibing good?
Fantastic, as always. Sundays are usually my days

(15:32):
where I'm just like nothing, youknow, usually for Sundays I'm
not like I have to really get itjump started, you know what I'm
saying? Like my mood jump started.
Yeah, because usually Sundays are just my days where I'm just
like, I don't want to do shit. I don't want to do anything.
I don't want to talk to anybody.I'm good.

(15:53):
And then. But yeah, usually once it gets
once I start talking, I'm good. Yeah.
I'm good, yeah. Yeah, I'm good.
Tired, good. Just make some BBQ.
Things are good so. Hey BBQ.
You know, so keep going, Spence.What you, what you got for him?
So just going off of like what you said, I mean, you know,

(16:14):
you're going through all of these things.
Did you for you if you want to say, did you seek out any like
professional help or anything like that or were you just like,
I just want to do this journey on my own?
Yeah, that's a great question, because that is what my platform
ended up becoming. Because even at the time, I knew
that I needed help, but I thought that I, I could just

(16:38):
handle it on my own, right. And so I, that's what I focus.
I was just like, OK, let me justtry harder and be better and try
to have a better attitude and stuff like that.
And it wasn't until I, I was, I was diagnosed with everything
I'm diagnosed with only a few years ago.
So I was diagnosed with most of the stuff that I deal with now,

(17:01):
you know, in 2023. So it was at that point, five
years had gone by and I knew, I knew I had to get help because
like all this time had gone by and I was still struggling.
But I didn't think it was because I was diagnosed with
anything. But it wasn't until some people
that were very close to me in mylife went out like, Hey, you

(17:21):
should, you should probably talkto somebody.
And I was like, no, I'm like, I'm fine.
I'd like it's, it's, it is what it is.
I just got to work harder, just got to try harder.
But then I when after talk, after going to speak with a
mental health professional, that's when I realized that my
struggles had nothing to do withme not trying hard.

(17:42):
Like there was, there is quite literally a chemical deficiency
in my brain that I wasn't managing in a healthy way.
And that's why that's one of thereasons why I was struggling
with so many things. And so it wasn't until 2023 that
I really started to focus on getting help and speaking with

(18:05):
my therapist and my psychiatrist, getting medicated,
like all that kind of stuff thatdidn't start until 2023.
So it's, it's 2025 now. It's been, you know, 2-3 years
and it's been an amazing, amazing, insightful journey that
I'm still learning, you know, I'm still, it's all still new to

(18:26):
me. I got a question, Spence,
because no one's surprising. We've done so much of these
goddamn podcast and rarely have I asked this question.
How was it starting therapy? What have you learned throughout
it? Did it work the first time?
First therapist? Did it take time to get used to
men, brown men, black men? Hard time talking about this

(18:49):
shit. Like what was that experience?
How did it go with the therapist?
And and if you, I didn't think that this is where we're going
today, obviously this is where we're going.
If you're cool with that, I would like to pick your brain
because it's a high rate of black and brown people that
listen to us and it's also a high rate of women too.
But for the men that are listening, it'd be nice for you
to share a piece. I So I For those of you that

(19:12):
don't know I'm black. Surprise, no longer.
No longer black man. You know, look.
Like Darius Rucker. That's right.
That's the one. That's the person I get all the
time. I get Darius Rucker all the
time. And so like, like, here's the
thing, I grew up in a in a blackneighborhood, right, surrounded
by black people. And there is very much a mental

(19:34):
health stigma in the Black community.
And so when I was growing up, the only the people that I
looked up to were athletes, hip hop and R&B artists and my dad,
right? Those were the three people that
I looked up to, none of whom were talking about mental
health. None of my teachers were talking
about mental health. None of my basketball coach, my

(19:55):
football coach, my baseball coach, none of those people were
talking about mental health. It was always try harder or, you
know, rub some dirt on it, you know, pull up the bootstraps.
Let's go. You know, kind of kind of
energy, like the idea of crying.It meant that you were, you were
a wuss. That's, that's what I grew up.

(20:16):
So I grew up suppressing my feelings because that's what I
thought that I had to do. And so I realized when I started
therapy that number one, there is a stigma in, in the, the
black community and #2 that I'm not alone in this.

(20:38):
And I know it's such a cliche thing to say, but it's true
because even though so many people suffer and, and have a
hard time managing their mental health, it can, even though so
many people deal with that, it'sstill is a very isolating thing
that we all have to deal with. And so we all feel alone.
And once I learned that there are people that have gone

(21:00):
through this and can understand what I'm struggling with and,
and how how to manage it in a healthy way, it was like putting
on glasses for the first time and I'm able to see things
clearly. I was able to put a name to my
struggles. I was able to understand why
things were happening. Why was I having trouble
remembering things? Why was I having trouble, you

(21:22):
know, getting started with my day?
Why was I, you know, having trouble with this, this and
that? Come to find out, there's more
to the story. And so it was kind of like this
beautiful snowball effect that Ijust wanted to learn more and I
started to learn more. And that's why I take my, my
role as a content creator in themental health field so
seriously, because there's not alot of black and brown men

(21:46):
especially that are content creators that talk about mental
health. And so, like, I take this very
seriously because like, I wish Iwas able to see somebody like me
when I was younger, when I was ateenager, when I was in college,
even talking about this stuff, you know?
And so like, that's why that's why I try my my hardest to just

(22:06):
be open and honest about my lifeand my struggles.
Was it hard for you to when theymaybe suggested, Hey, you got
Bing bang, boom. Was it hard for you to maybe
accept that? And or was it hard for you to
maybe, hey, I assume your therapy's like, hey, man, we
might need to do some of this medicine because that's usually
the next. Step.
Oh yeah, it was really hard. It was like this grief process,

(22:31):
you know, like, like, like the stages of grief that you go
through like after like somebodypasses away kind of thing.
It was like a similar thing because when I was first
diagnosed, especially with like,because I was diagnosed first
with generalized anxiety disorder, yeah, and, and, and
depression and like, I'm like, like when I like, when I thought
about when I was younger and I was thinking about mental
health, like, and this is my ignorance speaking, I like, I

(22:54):
when somebody mentioned mental health, I would think of like
straight jackets and asylums. Facts like that, that's mental
health to me. That's what I thought.
And so once I realized it's not,it's not that you know it, it
was very, very eye opening. And so like once I started to
learn more about it, when I was first diagnosed, I started to
get upset with the people that were in my life, like the adults

(23:19):
that were in my life, because I'm like the signs of
depression, anxiety, ADHD, all this stuff.
It was there my whole life. How did y'all not see it?
It's clear as day. And so like I, it was like anger
and then it turned into sadness because I'm like, man, I caught
this when I was 3435. What if I would have, if I would
have caught this when I was like18/19/20 like would my life be

(23:42):
different? Like, and so it turned into like
the sadness and like it kept going.
And then finally I reached the point after maybe like a year or
so when it, when it was like this acceptance and I was like,
OK, this is something I have to deal with.
I'm going to give myself grace. I'm going to give people in my
life grace because they didn't know either.
And I'm just going to try to just manage all of this in a

(24:04):
healthy way and try to use my journey as a way to validate
other people's journeys. You'd be surprised.
You would be surprised, Spence. I wouldn't be either.
With the amount of time since I've had kids this week, I just
can't believe no one saw any of this.
Yeah. How'd you not know?

(24:26):
How'd you not know I was emaciated with my eating
disorder? How'd you not know I was
tweaking out? I wouldn't come out of the
basement. How'd you not know I was
autistic? And if I you saw this, this and
this and you, you you continue to allow people to bully me or
you continue saying shit about my weight or you never put me in
front of a doctor. Why was it when I finally got to

(24:47):
middle school and and yeah, I went for a check up.
The doctor's like, hey, man, youain't doing good.
Why, why, why did it take so long?
So a lot of my clients are angry, lost time.
And I tell them, hey, Lisa wasn't 35.
Lisa wasn't right. You're 20, right, 21.
We can do some shit now, right? There's.
There's a lot of people, especially women, people in the

(25:11):
LGBTQ plus community, people of color that are getting diagnosed
later in life with a variety of things because a lot of the
research that is done on a lot of these things, especially in,
in the like DSP or DSM, DSM, Thank you.
A lot of that was the research was done on white males,

(25:36):
especially young white males. Yep.
It wasn't done on women. It wasn't done on people of
color. And we're just now getting to a
point that is starting to be talked about more and accepted
more in those communities and how it affects people
differently in those communities.
And so now you're finding like women who were either
misdiagnosed or not diagnosed atall getting diagnosed with ADHD

(25:59):
at fifty 60-70 years old. Facts is wild.
And then how could it have changed to help them out if they
would have known this before? It's it's it's sad.
Like you said, it's grief because you might have lost a
part of yourself a long time agothroughout all the traumas.
Yeah, it's crazy. Thank you for answering some of
those questions. Yeah, of course, of course.

(26:23):
Smith Yeah. So I know you've done a little
bit of, like, acting and you're a big, big musical guy as well.
I am what I am. What about those really, like
help you express yourself in different ways because, you
know, I mean, honestly, like I Ilove musicals, honestly, like

(26:46):
they're pretty great. Choo Choo bang, bang.
That's my shit, you know, nice. The newer ones, you know, what
are you going to? Yeah, You know, they don't catch
my. I will say though, I was
pleasantly surprised with Wicked.
I was like, oh shit, that's actually really good.
Even though like my school, they, they did like Wicked.
Like we were known for like Wicked.
That was our thing. I never saw it, but what about

(27:11):
like just doing acting musicals and being inside of that realm
really, really gets your creative juices going?
Yeah, there's two things, mainly.
One, it was a safe space for me growing up because I played

(27:32):
sports my entire life. And again, like I in sports,
like you're you, you suppress your feelings because you need
to be tough. You need to be like all the
time, right? Like that is the mindset you
have to, you have to have. And in theater, in musicals, it
was different. Like they wanted you to show

(27:55):
your vulnerability. They wanted you to like, go
there emotionally a lot of times.
And so like, it was a safe spacefor me to express myself in, in
a, in a way that was accepted bythe people around me.
So that was #1 #2 neurodivergentpeople mask a lot.

(28:17):
We mask our symptoms a lot. Acting in a way is masking.
And I it was, it was a, it was away from acting as a way from me
to this is going back some acting one O 1 stuff, but
behaving truthfully under imaginary circumstances.
So like I'm I'm able to wear this theoretical mask where when

(28:40):
I'm on stage, it's not me. It's whatever character I'm
playing. Like it's me up there, but it's
whatever character I'm playing. So I'm masking who I am in order
to, to play this, this role. And so that was something I was
already used to without even realizing it.
Now I talk about this now the way that I'm talking about it,
but back then I didn't even knowthat.

(29:02):
That's why I enjoyed it so much.I didn't know.
I was just like, this is fun. The girls are cute.
I didn't know. I was like, I was like the one.
I was like the one straight guy in the musical.
It was like I was like this. Was fun.
I guess you got. Something but.
It looks like you might have something else to find out at 37
in your bearface office. I'm not strange.

(29:23):
But like, but it was but like, Ithink, well, listen, I'll tell
you. I think everybody's a little
gay. I'll tell you.
I'll tell you that I'm more thana.
Little, I think, alone. Listen, listen, I, I this is
this is what I always say to, toto guys.
I'm like, I dare you to put yourguy, your guy group, whatever
group chat that you have with guys, put it publicly.
Tell me people won't think that is.

(29:45):
Yay. Also, if you sleep in bed with
another man, I mean come on. Right.
I mean, that's. Right Nas?
That's it. That's.
It Who doesn't want to be held by a strong man?
I don't understand. Listen, the whitest, buffest guy
you've ever. Seen but but like, but like,
here's the thing, here's the thing.
Like we, it's, it's funny because like, like playing

(30:08):
sports, like I used to get made fun of because like, like they
knew that I'd love to do theatre.
So they'd be like, oh, that's gay.
Yeah, right. And, and it, and I realize that
the reason that they say that isbecause a lot of people don't
like, are, are opening themselves up and being
vulnerable and just like they, they are just having this

(30:31):
extravagant fun and it doesn't make it gay.
It's just fun. It's just not tough.
It's just not manly tough, right?
But like, that doesn't make you gay.
But it like it comes off as gay.So like, that's what I thought
when I was playing sports. And I'm like, the only reason I
even tried out for the school show in the eighth grade was
because there was this girl Diane that I had a crush on.
I found out she was doing the school show and my wrist was

(30:52):
broken and I couldn't play on the basketball team.
So I need something to do. So I was like, well, Diane's
doing that. I'm like, this will be my shot
with Diane and like, like, and that's how it went.
And then I ended up falling in love with it.
Love it. And I did get the girl we did
date. Hey, hey, there you go.
It's all worth it, all those years of rehearsal.
It was she dumped me on my birthday but like it's.

(31:13):
Never mind she. Dumped you on your birthday.
Yeah, I don't think she realizedit was my birthday.
Oh, OK, well. I mean, that's that's also not a
good. Sign too.
Like it's not. It's not birthday.
Sorry. No.
And she didn't even do it. It was her friend.
I got her a, this is a sidetrack, But like, she, I got
her for Valentine's Day. I got her like, this necklace,

(31:34):
I'm in the eighth grade, by the way.
Got her this necklace from, like, Claire's or something like
that, This necklace. And I gave it to her.
She, like, wore it every day. It was like, oh, she's blah,
blah. And then the way that she broke
up with me is that she gave the necklace to her best friend.
And her best friend met me at mylocker and handed me the
necklace. And that's when I knew that she
was breaking up with me. Yeah.

(31:54):
So this is your origin story, huh?
It's my. It's my.
Villain, this is your origin story.
It was fine. How I?
Own the corporation and I fired all the people that worked at
my. School.
Because fuck them. Oh my.
God, so right, this, this, this masculinity thing is so bullshit

(32:17):
and it hurts so many of us womenas well, too, because what you
were trying to talk about is notjust the play and like how
that's feminine, blah, blah, blah, is the vulnerability of
showing emotion, showing anything, showing excitement,
exuberance, you, whatever it is,right?
Just you can't show anything. And so a lot of my women as well

(32:41):
are poisoned by this constant conversations about did you talk
to your partner about this? No, no, no, I wouldn't.
I'm not doing that Well, why not?
Because that's just too much. And I want to be seen crazy.
And I don't want them to know that.
What if they judge me and it leads under these horrible
things? So they never get to really
fully know each other because the fear of rejection or the
fear of that they will be seen as weak or feminine and a bunch

(33:03):
of other slurs. I'm not going to say right now.
So it's it's wild how it kills like everyone.
And so now you have. To be secure, you do your just
your masculinity and who you. Are, yeah, I think that anybody
that says that things like theater are, you know, is, is
something that isn't masculine #1 does, doesn't know theater

(33:26):
because like, that thing is, it's hard.
Like you go up there and try to sing and dance and do all that
at the same time. Yeah.
Like, that's not, it's not easy,right #1 #2 like, like being
vulnerable doesn't make you weak.
Being open and honest doesn't make you weak.
I think it makes you weak when you are especially men that are

(33:49):
toxic with toxic masculinity. I think that's weaker.
I think that says so much about them that does about anybody
else or society. There's a lot of cowardice in it
for many different reasons. Yeah, yes.
And I think like we have a lot of great examples.
I think now when we get older now we have so many great
examples of like all these different people, like Denzel

(34:09):
Washington, he's been into theater and he does all these
different plays and stuff like that.
All Al Pacino, all these different amazing, considered
masculine actors have been doingthese things for years.
And it's just like, oh, so you think you're more manly, quote
UN quote than like Denzel or like Al Pacino and stuff like

(34:32):
that. Like come on now.
Like that's who you look up to for masculinity.
Look at Scarface. That's what everybody watched
and was just like, holy shit. You know, yeah, yeah.
But he's a legit person. I had a conversation with a
client the other day when they're like, dude, I'd probably
get my ass kicked if I said thatI liked anime.
But like, now you can say it andit's OK.
Now you can say you like musicals and it's OK.

(34:55):
All that stuff. Man, I, I, it's so, I, I, I am
so happy that like we can be open about like that kind of
stuff now because it, you're right, it wasn't always like.
That it was not. At all it like to like
especially anime, musicals, Pokémon like all that kind of
stuff man. Doing your homework, you get

(35:15):
bullied. It's like you getting bullied
for everything. It's like you getting bullied
for being poor. It's like, Jesus Christ, I'm
already poor, like you gonna bully me about it.
How many more? Struggles.
Are you going to bully me? Poor kids.
I can't read Jesus. Shitty clothes like everything.
Goddamnit. Why are you bawling in the
eighth grade, Nas? I don't know, Like my dad's

(35:38):
stressing me out. Yeah, man, it's wild.
So it was just really nice to talk to a student the other day.
I was like, homie, you couldn't say this shit for like you
couldn't. Now it's OK to be like super
nerdy and cool. It's in.
Henry Cavill Henry Cavill is thebiggest nerd, biggest nerd which
we'll ever see in your life. And it doesn't get any more

(35:59):
masculine than Henry Cavill. He's like one of the sweetest
guys that you could ever see andI think.
That is not fair. That is not fair.
It's not fair that you're attractive, smart, funny and
kind. Come.

(36:19):
On Is he strange? What's going on here?
Is he is he strange or no? I assume he's strange.
Yeah, yeah, he went out with Gina the the one buff chick from
the Mandalorian he was going outwith.
Her they dated. Really.
I don't know that, yeah. They're going out for a while,
so and I also think that might be a detriment to him though,
because like, I feel like even though he may not want to, he

(36:42):
should be bigger than what he is.
And yeah, he played Superman andeverything fantastic.
It doesn't get any bigger than that man.
True but like he I feel like he should be in more things because
it just he just seems like somebody who is not only great
at the storytelling and the factthat they fired him from the
Witcher was such AI thought. He quit.

(37:05):
Well, he quit because he couldn't get he wanted to put
the creative in there. He actually, because he read the
books of the Witcher and he wanted to put those into the
like into the show. And then they're just like, we
don't like fucking actors who try to actually put on the
source material like that, you know?
And so like I just, I feel like sometimes being nice and then

(37:29):
also having all those other qualities can be a detriment to
you because then they only see that maybe you're vulnerable in
certain ways and then they can use you and then just be like,
well, we're done now. We don't really need you
anymore. But you know, and that happens
with regular people on a regularbasis.
Yeah, all the time. Let's let's actually keep stay

(37:50):
on this. Spencer.
This is a good track. Kentucky.
You come off as a very nice, kind individual.
Have you had an experience with individuals maybe trying to take
advantage, push your boundaries,overwork you, write shit on you,
whatever, blah, blah, blah? Have you had this kind of Henry
Cavill like moments? He's.
For folks who can't see, he's nodding yes and laughing.

(38:11):
Yes, absolutely, 100%. Can you give us any moments or
examples? I mean, I so like, I'm, I feel
as though I'm a genuinely nice person and like, and a lot of
people know that. And so it happens a lot,
particularly from like a dating standpoint, right?

(38:32):
Because I'm usually the guy thata woman will date after the big
breakup before they move on to the actual next relationship.
Right. Because I'm usually the guy that
is so different than what they had.

(38:56):
And so a lot of times in previous relationships, either
I've either either they've endedit and went back to their
husband or their toxic as boyfriend, or I was like the
rebound and then they were like,they want to explore some more,
right? Because now they felt like a

(39:16):
little bit more comfortable. Now, that's not to say that I
didn't play like I'm not sittinghere saying I'm Mr. Perfect,
right? Like I know what role I've
played in in the downfall of relationships for sure.
However, I do feel as though I'mlike a just a genuinely nice
person. And, and sometimes I think
people use that even probably unknowingly, because they know

(39:41):
that I'm going to give it everything I have and just be
kind, care and communicate and care.
Yeah. You know.
Yeah, I got a million clients fence that said the same thing.
It's it's a disadvantage being this nice.
But see, well, I seriously, I don't view it as a disadvantage.
Go ahead. I don't, I don't view it as I
don't feel it as a disadvantage.It's annoying, but like kindness

(40:07):
is never going to be a disadvantage because like at the
end of the day. Whether they're still with me or
not, whether I lost an opportunity because I'm too
nice. What?
I'd rather lose an opportunity because I'm nice as opposed to
losing an opportunity because I'm a Dick.
You know what I'm saying? Like I like.
So I don't really view it as a disadvantage, but people do take

(40:30):
advantage of it. However, I'm at a point now in
my life where like I've been through enough shit that I can
spot stuff from a mile away. So like I'm I'm a lot more
protective of my heart and and my situations.
Or the boundaries work, whateverit may be, right friendship,
relationship. So when it comes to the clients

(40:50):
where it's a disadvantage, what Spencer was talking about is is
they're getting overworked at work.
People are taking advantage of them there and and sucking all
the daylight and time out of them.
It's where they'll see Spence, all these people talking and
bloviating like everyone else. And then they got the Henry
Cowboys that are just kind of cool, calm, collected.
And a lot of my young women are like, well, maybe I should be

(41:11):
more assertive and like angry. I'm like, kid, you couldn't do
it if you wanted to. But again, why would you want to
be mean and angry? You're fucking lovely as hell,
but no one takes me serious. Well, that's not a you thing.
That's not a you thing. That's a projection of how they
feel, right? It's what we talked about on the
podcast last week, folks with our last guest and suspense.

(41:33):
And so many of my clients are like, I should be tougher.
I should be meaner. I should be like bigger.
And it's like, I don't know if you should betray the core
identities of who you are and who you love to be this mythical
creature that like terrifies people.
And like, no, that's not that's not good.
But I get it. And it's different because,

(41:54):
right, I'm a big, large voice where everyone shows me respect,
right? Spencer's larger.
Dude, you, we don't know your size.
You look a little miniature in the camera, but you know, black
dude. You play point guard, that's all
right. Point guard.
I did, I did. I was I'm 6 foot but I was the
shortest team. So like but.

(42:15):
That's all. I was just trying to bring that.
To to that point, I think that we I don't know how to phrase
it. We all kind of code switch
sometimes though, in like in a way, right, in order to survive,

(42:37):
survive, right? And so sometimes like we do ACT
a little bit like this mythological creature, right?
In order to survive because we have to, right?
Like, for example, like me as a black man, like there's certain
ways that I feel sometimes I have to talk.
I have to talk a certain way in order to help other people feel

(43:02):
comfortable because if they don't feel comfortable, I'm not
going to be able to, you know, move forward with my career or
my day. Like I don't do it as much as I
used to. But like that code switching is
a thing that like a lot of us doto survive.
And so I, I, I, I'm very mindfulof that, but I've, I've gotten

(43:23):
better at not having to force myself to do that.
I mean, we've also discussed this with our last guest because
they kind of go through that. I mean, I think majority of
people of color go through that,right, where they have to change
just a little bit of who they are in order to get through like
certain barriers or certain things that they have to go

(43:44):
through in life. And personally, I see that as
something as an advantage because you're able to do so
many different things. I think when it's a disadvantage
is when you lose track of who you were before and then now
this is who you are. You're not, you're no longer
just wearing a mask. It's fucking super glued to your

(44:04):
face. And so now you are being that in
order in just everyday life. And I think that when you are
able to take off all these different masks and you're able
to do all these different things, I think that that could
be such an advantage because youcan be anything you want to be
in life and you can do it. It's just that when we get stuck

(44:29):
and we have too much of a certain thing, that's when you
really start to go into like a depression, anxiety, and you do
all these things and you have aninternal conflict with yourself
because you no longer know who you are.
But I think once you understand who you are and who you want to
be and you wear that mask or youor you just are that person now,

(44:53):
that's when it's the best outcome in my opinion.
I'm at a point now I I don't give a shit anymore.
Like like, like, like I don't like, it's like, where's you
now? All right, I'm going to be me.
And if you don't like that, yeah, fine.
Like OK, bye. Like I don't like it doesn't, it
doesn't bother me as much as it used to, but like, that's a
very, very recent thing. Like I'm talking like the last

(45:14):
like year or. Two, I was just going to ask you
that. I'm not the point that I'm like,
I'm like, I don't like, if you don't like I, there's tons of
people out there that don't likeme, that's OK, It's fine.
You don't, you don't have to like me.
Like it's fine. And so like, I'm just going to
be me. And if that's an issue, like we
don't have to be in each other'slives.
Let's just move forward and justgo about like, do you do you?

(45:37):
I'll do me. We'll stay in our lanes and
we'll keep going. Forward.
Do you think you could have got to this point without the
therapy and without some like additive support and help?
No. Absolutely not.
Absolutely not because I wasn't processing in a healthy way.
Like right now, I'm able to process a lot of this stuff in a
healthy way. But like, like one of the

(45:57):
things, one of the ADHD symptomsthat I had to learn how to
manage was was in my emotional regulation, right?
Where like I would just go like these massive mood swings, not
knowing why it was happening. I wasn't able to control not
only how I was feeling, but likethe results of what happens

(46:18):
after. Yep.
And so like now I'm able to process things and people and
situations in a way that is grounded in reality and, and
truth and honesty. And I have to do that because if
I don't, that's when I start to spiral because I found that I

(46:39):
was either worried about the future or dwelling on the past
and not living in the present. And so like once you take, once
you start to spiral and you start to go into the what if
kind of world, that's when you start to lose yourself.
And I'm like, I just can't allowmyself to go there anymore.

(47:02):
It's easier now. You said also you got the you
you may mention I said anything you said in pre production about
mental health I can mention or no as a diagnosis can I mention
something else? OCD.
Oh yeah. OK.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Existential OCD.
Yeah, so you get the OCD. So like a lot of my clients
would have ADHD within that OCD.You'll kick in.
And then now you're obsessively thinking about the one thing.

(47:24):
Now you can't sleep. Now you're miserable right now.
Now, now everything now executive function gets bad.
And now eventually, how am I going to get out of this misery?
Well, I know a way I'm just not going to live.
And it's like, wait, wait, wait,wait a minute, wait a minute.
So that obsessive stuff, have you been able to manage that?
I'm sorry that we're the podcasters went this direction.

(47:44):
I think this is magnificent stuff to help.
No, I think it's a great conversation.
I think it's a great conversation.
So like, it's one thing that people need to realize about all
of these things is that they're not mutually exclusive, right?
Your ADHD, your your depression,your anxiety, your OCD.
And like I'm not I'm not diagnosed autistic but I know a

(48:06):
lot of people that are. I know a lot bipolar.
I know a lot of people that are bipolar, people that have.
All types of stuff. It's the.
Personality one Yeah, like all different types of stuff, right?
They're they all go hand in handbecause they all affect each
other. I, you know, if I can have a
struggle with my ADHD one day and that'll cue my depression

(48:30):
and then then that will spiral into my anxiety, right?
And so like it, it like all kindof goes hand in hand.
So that's where the therapy can't comes into play for me
because I didn't like, I felt lost.
I'm like, OK, do I focus on this, this, this, this, where
where with my therapist, I'm able to sit down and say, OK,

(48:53):
this is the problem. And I'm able to find the root
cause of whatever is happening, the reasoning, process it, and
then manage it that way as opposed to just trying to attack
like just ADHD or just depression or just, you know,
all these things like go to the root cause, process it.
And then from there you're goingto find that it's going to be

(49:13):
easier to manage all the ways that all of these things affect
that core situation. So it's hard and I my cats are
going crazy. I see that I see them.
Like, hey, you need to stop. No, but like they only do this
when I'm on, when I'm on Zoom. But, but, but yeah, I had to

(49:34):
learn how to manage all of that.So like it's it's really,
really, really hard. I'm not going to stay here and
say that like I have it all figured out.
It's hard. But I'm also very cognizant and
aware of it more so than I ever have been.
So when you're aware of it and you acknowledge it and you
accept it, it's easier to process it and it's easier to
manage it. Last comment, I'm going to kick

(49:56):
it back to Spence. You being able to acknowledge it
and accept it is where a lot of my clients are struggling is
being a little bit more mindful in the moment and accepting that
it's going to be hard. A lot of them.
Do you know, I got to be perfect.
Right now is where I'm disappointing you as my
therapist. And it's like, calm down, kid.
What the what is going on? Well, you know, I back slid into

(50:17):
this and this has happened and and I'm get angry and I hate
myself all the time. That's because you're not using
any kindness or grace at all. You see, you've took in all
these meetings and you're not applying.
The one key thing is self compassion.
And what does that look like foryou and how do we help you
regulate? It's intense.
So accepting that hey man, it's going to be, it's going to be a
sum bitch and some days aren't going to be good.

(50:38):
Some days the vibes ain't going to be good.
And I think a lot of my clients forget that, Spence.
I think they just forget. They think every day's going to
be fucking good just because they went into therapy a couple
times. And it's not necessarily their
fault because the, the world that we live in it, it, it
pushes for perfection. It doesn't, it doesn't allow for
mistakes because like a lot of these things that we deal with

(51:01):
on a daily basis, like especially if you're
neurodivergent, like the world wasn't built for our brains.
And so like, we have to find a way to manage it.
So like we beat ourselves and wego into these, these shame
spirals when when we can't be the person or do the things that

(51:21):
we want to do or need to do or be the person that people want
us to be. And we go down this shame
spiral. We beat ourselves up because the
world around us makes us, makes us think that we're bad, you
know, And so like, we beat ourselves up because of that.
The amount of people that cry inmy office and I have to hold my
shit together to now like just emotionally feel deep deep deep

(51:45):
pain for them and not like just pick them up and shake them or
hug them is wild. Yeah the same spiral is the
worst. Depends what other sauce you got
for this guy. Let's see here, so we talk about
commute community being just at the heart of really what you're
doing as well. What's been one of your most

(52:08):
rewarding moments of connection through Vibe with Kai?
Every day I get emails, DMS, messages from people all over
the world that are just like, hey, thank you.

(52:28):
Just like, you know, because of a video that you put out, I now
have a better understanding of what I'm struggling with or
because of you talking about your therapy sessions.
I think that I want to go explore some therapy options
now, like little things like that.

(52:50):
It's such AI mean. It fills my cup, man.
It's it's such a beautiful, beautiful feeling because
sometimes you like as content creators, we have to remind
ourselves why we do what we do because like what we do as
content creators. It's not like easy.
It's very tedious. Like I love doing it, but like,
like the like I have a podcast, I have a blog, I have an e-mail

(53:11):
list, I have the, the content that I put on Instagram, the
content I put on Tiktok, the content I put on Facebook, like
they're all, it's all different content.
Yep, right. And so like, it's exhausting.
And sometimes it's really easy to be like, why the hell am I
doing all this? Why am I doing all this?
Right? But then you get these messages
and these texts and these, theseemails from people.

(53:33):
I think it would just be one person that's just like, Hey,
you changed my life or you played a role in helping me
understand my daughter or my son, like that kind of stuff.
It, it brings me so it brings meso much joy and it fills my
heart and it reminds me why I dowhat I do.
So like every single day, I'm very fortunate to get reminded

(53:53):
of these things and, and it keeps me going and it, it makes
it all worth it. Honestly, I don't care if I have
a million followers or one follower.
I don't care if one person hits me up and it's like, Hey, thanks
all, this is worth it. Every single last bit of it
worth it. I love that.

(54:14):
I love that. I love that we, as all of us
here, get to make things that make people feel good.
I often get worried about me andSpence and some of the weird
shit that I say and my father's like, were you going too far?
You going too far? And then I got some feedback on
vacation. Someone was like, this was

(54:35):
fucking hilarious. It made my day and it's hella
chaotic and I love it. And I was just like, I
appreciate you. And I even had a little DM chat
with them. I was like, this is awesome.
I'm like, I'm glad. I'm like we're friends now.
So I added them and I'm they added up.
It was good. I got clients that comment on it
that crack up. I got a young human.

(54:57):
To not give away things that said some awesome stuff today.
And like, brother, this shit's wild.
I was like, I'm sorry. And he's like, like one podcast
you and Spen start saying this, this and that and he's like, who
the hell is my therapist? I was like, yeah bro, you.
Want to know something funny? You want to know something
funny. So like obviously, obviously, as

(55:18):
I said, I go to therapy and but like my therapist obviously sees
other people, right? But those other people don't
know that, like my therapist is also their therapist.
They have no idea, obviously, right.
So what's funny is that like people will sometimes send my
therapist your shit, my videos be like, hey, have you ever

(55:39):
heard of this guy? He's talking about ADHD and he's
explaining. But like and like my therapist,
bless her heart, has to pretend like she doesn't know who I am
and like it's just so funny. She'll be like, I'll go into
session like got one of your your videos again today, Kai.

(56:00):
Hey man, you should be paying them fucking some 10% fucking
royalties or some shit. No, it's always funny.
But like, again, like, that makes it all worth it.
Like, like, like people are bringing this stuff to their
therapy sessions. Awesome.
And it's like, man, like this isthat's how cool is that?
How how amazing is that? Yeah, it's just a cool
responsibility. I don't know.

(56:20):
My shit's going to therapy sessions.
My shit's probably going to likefucking.
Some fucking pervert watch. List.
Yeah, every time a client comes back like I saw the foot video.
No, if we want to be real today,we want to be real.
One of my black males today was like why are you talking about
Dicks so much on the pocket? I can't exactly I.

(56:43):
Was that dead? I was dead.
That's so fun. So I don't know what kind.
I don't know what kind is good. He's getting the good videos
mine. Another Dick video.
I can't wait till they hear this.
They're going to fucking die. Oh man.
Fucking porn sites don't talk about Dick as much as us for.

(57:05):
Some. Reason, yeah. 11 Dick per video.
That's the role. Oh my God.
We got our one. We can't keep saying this, can
we? Move on.
Oh, you want to move? On the SCO is going to put us on
like some only fans page or something.
Hey, hey, you're welcome. All right, so.

(57:28):
Oh boy. This is this is like more of a
fun question, all right? I'm interested to see how you
segue out of this. But not about Dicks this time.
Are you supposed to say that if you could create like the
ultimate feel good playlist, what's one song that you
absolutely have to be on it? I have an answer to this because

(57:51):
it's mine. It's my song that lifts me up
anytime that I need it. It's a song by the band Jungle,
which is one of my favorite bands.
OK, And they're the people that did this song back on 74.
That's like their oh big. That's like that.
That's their big song. The Fortnite's the Best Song in
my bed. It's Fortnite, so that she got,
yeah, got high on Fortnite. Play OK, I got it.

(58:13):
I'm sure why not and so I. Haven't played Fortnite since I
started having sex. Nas, calm down, calm down.
Also, it's been a couple weeks, so.
We play Fortnite a little good. We're back in high school.
Again, I know, Continue back on 70. 4 So, so jungle the the band

(58:37):
jungle. They're big songs back to the
paper, but they But the song that I listen to all the time,
it's a song called Keep Moving and it the video is fantastic.
The the song is great. It's just it's called keep
moving. I listen to that song every
single day. Probably.
I I love that song. It it's the Best Song Ever.

(58:59):
I love it. What else you got in that
discography? He said.
Playlist. Yeah, you gave us one, I said
one. Song.
He did say one song I thought you said.
Playlist. I didn't know you said one song.
But it was like the song. But yeah, I mean, if you have
any other songs. Like, I mean, I can, I mean
artists will probably be like like so like Khalid is, is one

(59:21):
of my favorite artists. I got a lot of his songs hit for
me because he he talks a lot about his his journey.
This is going to sound so weird and you can't make fun of me for
this, but like Imagine Dragons. Imagine Dragons.
Listen, not everybody. Not everybody.
Listen Imagine Dragons makes songs specifically about mental

(59:45):
health. I.
Know. And so like, I, I'll throw on
some Imagine Dragons every now and then.
I'm just saying, yeah, I'm just saying I screamed.
My little white heart out to that.
Shit, yeah, no, he he plays Imagine Dragons all the time.
Non-stop. All the time, non-stop.
Like that's what gets him going.Yeah.
Oh, I'll be by going. He means crying, because I'll be

(01:00:07):
saying that too. Have you been to any other
concerts? I have not.
No, I have. I Yeah, you went.
Philly I was. Gonna I was gonna, I was gonna
make a joke. I was gonna make a joke.
No, I have not. I have not been to one of their
concerts. I I would go.
I would go, do they come maybe do they come through to Indiana

(01:00:28):
a lot? No, there was in Minnesota.
No, not too many people coming to Indiana.
No, that's not really the vibe. Yeah, there's more plan
Plansville. Over here, but besides the
point. I I was in Indiana, I was in
Indianapolis one time, 11 time and I'm good.
It's fine, it's fine and I'm allgood.
But during their concerts, they usually do multiple speeches, at

(01:00:52):
least one really good monologue about mental health, his
therapist, how it went, his depression, his suicidality, the
lead singer. So I mean, that's pretty.
Does he do it with a shirt on oroff?
Because I know he takes his clothes off and during the show.
I'm not going to lie, I kind of blanked out.
So I don't know, it's probably off and I'm done.

(01:01:13):
OK, we can go. But yeah, about.
You and Naz, what's on your playlist?
So when I made those jokes, no, I made those jokes in that last
podcast about like freaking out,right, because I had to talk to
these 300 kids and do this presentation that wasn't prepped
for and I started putting on it's called sweet as and then

(01:01:37):
it's it's the hosier songs in movement and it's so good.
It's so. Sweet as or sweet ass?
ASAS not AS not a ain't no ass guys.
OK, And then also what else did I put on?
I put on that Kendrick Lamar song.
We going to be all right, all right, because right, I'm doing

(01:01:59):
a mental health talk. So it's we going to be all
right. There was the movement song is
quite lovely and affirming, right.
I was trying to play like affirming things I put up.
Favorite song ever? There you go.
That's your favorite song ever? That's your favorite Kendrick
song ever? I'd say yes, I'd say yes.
I do love, I do love like Mr. Morale, I love, I love the songs

(01:02:20):
off of that and obviously good Kidman City, you know, all that.
But I just felt like that song mixes so well with just not only
being some an uplifting song, but then also just being a song
talking about how we can uplift ourselves in the community and

(01:02:41):
being just so powerful with it. And it's just the drums on it.
Pharrell did an amazing job producing that song.
Pharrell, don't miss. Don't miss No, the song I said
was called too sweet, not sweet ass, too sweet you.
Just think about something else.Thinking about some fuzzy
Peaches. Thinking about Imagine Dragons
lead singer that's sweet let's. Pivot out of this.

(01:03:05):
Yeah, let's movie time. We're going to talk about some
Postaloptic. Postaloptic.
Postaloptic. Jesus Christ post apocalyptic?
Yeah, sure. Kind of hard to.
Say that. Wait a segue Anyway, fucking all
right, so we are doing the movieChildren of Men.
Like not as described, post apocalyptic post a lap, a Laka

(01:03:29):
Laka post apocalyptic song and movie all about this future
where children just stop being made.
Just stop. You can't make children.
And, and as a result, the society is collapsing under like
the weight of of hopelessness and, and so governments have

(01:03:52):
turned authoritarian. Immigrants are imprisoned in
refugee camps and chaos is everywhere.
All right, It's sound. It's believe it or not, it's a
fictional movie. It's like legit, like no lie.
The movie is about governments that turn authoritarian.
Immigrants are imprisoned in refugee camps and there's chaos

(01:04:13):
everywhere. No lie.
That is. That is the movie, and it's
supposed to be. Fiction.
Yep, it's strange how fiction just becomes reality.
I'm not going to make any comments, I'm just going to let
you guys handle that one. And so do you want to give just

(01:04:34):
a little bit of background for our scene that we have and just
like how it kind of goes up to? Yeah, so, so a quick a quick
little background of like the the the characters themselves,
because that's that's going to be like a little important here.
All right, so the lead characteris Clive Owen.
His name is Theo and he is a former activist and he has lost

(01:05:00):
faith in the future of society because of the death of his son,
right? Which is the story that, which
is the story that we started on the that we started with in in
this scene, right? So he lost faith and he's just
living like this detached life and he has pulled back from from
everything. His ex-wife, who you don't see

(01:05:21):
in the clip and spoiler alert isbecause she's dead.
But go watch the movie. It came out like 2006.
So like like whatever. But anyway, so his his ex-wife,
who's played by Julianne Moore, another brilliant actress, asked
for his help on some like rebellious causes.

(01:05:42):
And that rebellious cause is Julianne Moore leads a group
called the Fishes. And the fishes have this girl,
this refugee named Key, who is the 1st pregnant woman in 18
years. She's the first pregnant woman
in 18 years. And so the survival of humanity

(01:06:04):
lies within this girl, Key. And so Leo has to protect this
girl. And on the way to on his path
towards taking her to where the protection is, he has an old
friend named Jasper who's playedby Michael Caine.

(01:06:26):
And, and he helps with protecting them while they're on
their journey to deliver Key to to a scientific group who is
working on humanity survival. That's the that's the context of
this. It's a lot, it goes, it's a lot
deeper, but that's the that's the context of what you need to

(01:06:47):
know for the scene. You're just saying it's Last of
Us minus the fungus. It sounds like The Last of Us.
I'm going to be real. Yeah, but that's like every
post. Apocalyptic movie, right?
Like there's. Last of Us has babies though,
right? They're having babies.
True babies. True, true.
They are. They probably.
What's her name is pregnant? What's her name gets pregnant?
What's her name's girlfriend? Yeah, pregnant, Right, right,

(01:07:08):
right. Ellie's girlfriend.
Ellie's Girl. Yep, Yep, Yep.
By the yeah, we're like, how didthat happen?
Don't worry about it. There was there.
Was there God there? Had been a penis involved.
Yeah, but. Sometimes just make it the lady.
She was with was bisexual. Oh, there you go.
OK, there you go. That's how we did artificial

(01:07:29):
insemination, parking elections.Yep, they have that.
Come here. That's your heart, Jesus.
Jesus Christ. Why did we so we start out with
this. This is hilarious.
I love this podcast. That first scene though, right?

(01:07:51):
What do you, what do you want usto bring attention to in that
first scene though? Because you gave us a
background, but I wanted to focus on the first one just for
me. And then we'll get to the second
scene. What's going on with that?
So throughout the entire movie, CEO Clive Owen, he has not
opened up at all to the to the girl and the and her companion

(01:08:11):
that he's protecting on on on this journey.
And so when Theo brings this, the girl key to Jasper's house,
Jasper, who's this like very eccentric man, right, just
starts telling stories about, about Theo and his past life
and, and giving this background on Theo and Theo who is not,

(01:08:34):
he's not part of the conversation, but he's listening
in on the conversation. And what I love about it is that
even though the dialogue takes place, you know, elsewhere, the
focus is on Theo, right? Everything else is blurry.
You can hear them talking, but the focus is on Theo.

(01:08:55):
And I find that brilliant because you're able to see him
processing these thoughts about his past that he has suppressed
for probably a very long time, ever since his kid's death,
right? So he's been, he, he refuses to
like, revisit that time of his life.
And so when Jasper is telling these stories, Theo's revisiting

(01:09:17):
this time of his life, probably the first time in the longest
time. And you get to see Clive Owen,
who's a brilliant actor. Just listen and you can see in
his face how he's processing this information and like, man,
it is just so beautiful to watchhim act because like, I think
some of the most brilliant actors can act without having

(01:09:39):
any actual dialogue. Beautiful.
Like they're just acting like. But horrific scene.
I mean, that's a really sad scene, my guy.
I mean, they're talking about the devilish and he's sitting
there and you can feel the trauma and his face doesn't even
move. Yeah, I'm like, yeah, I I've

(01:10:01):
done that. I felt like that A.
Lot without saying anything. Yeah, so question for everyone
listening, when you watch that clip, have you ever been in that
type of moment where like you feel like you're listening to
people and like it's all background noise?
It's kind of like fuzzy, like you're very present.
You know what you're thinking and feeling, but everything is

(01:10:22):
kind of like muffled and weird. Like, I wondered if you felt
that because Kai, that's what I was looking at.
I, I feel like I do that all thetime.
There'll be so much shit around me and it all kind of gets like
jumbled up in the background, but then I'm locked in on one
conversation or one thought. And the second thing is, is for
folks, when people are telling me stories, if I don't remember,

(01:10:44):
remember my autistic ass to movemy face, I'm visualizing it in
my brain. And you're kind of just in no
man's lane in your brain listening to it.
And it's kind of weird. And I always wondered, I'm like,
that's what I look like. So that's why I thought,
Spencer, I'm like, that's what Ilook like this fucking.
Yeah, yeah. But like, but like that hyper
focus, especially for those of us with NHD that like that's

(01:11:08):
what it is, like we'll, we will become so hyper focused on
something. It doesn't matter what's
happening around us that like that one thing we will focus on
and let nothing else matters. So like, and that's the, that's
the hard part of ADHD is that it's either everything or it's
one, right? Like you can be hyper focused on
one thing or it's like everything all at once.

(01:11:31):
And in this moment you get, it'sa very hyper focused moment of
him processing what's happening.Intense scene.
I would not about to be in his mind in that scene to to know
and have to experience all that,right?
That'd be horrible to to experience that.
Absolutely. Especially if you've to suppress

(01:11:53):
something that you haven't processed.
And at this point, maybe, I don't know, 10 years, maybe at
this point for him, you know, like that's a long time to not
talk openly about something. Is that a representation of you
before? Like therapy and like your
friends telling you, hey man, you need to talk to someone.
Yeah. I mean, yeah.

(01:12:14):
Like it's the difference being. Yeah.
Like, I mean, the difference being that like, he probably
knowingly was suppressing. And then for me, like I was
suppressing without even realizing it.
I just thought that that was just how it was supposed to be.
Like, you're not supposed to show emotion, you know?
And so and so, like, yeah, I mean, I, I totally felt.

(01:12:37):
I mean, it also helps that he's a brilliant actor.
But like, in that moment, I, I could see the wheels turning in
his head. And it reminded me of when like
the times that I had to look back at my life and the things
that I struggled with. Because you have to look back.
If you want to be able to understand who you are and why
you are the way you are, you have to look back.

(01:12:58):
And that's hard. That's a really hard thing to do
It's scary. How will you be driving some
Dimes? Every once in a while you'll be
seeing them Dimes. I'm like beep boop, there it is.
Ohh yeah ohh. Like damn that suck.
Yeah, A. White man.
Press Paul Rajon Rondo One time I pick a. 1st.

(01:13:20):
Of all leading a sister in the NBA all time.
OK white man. White man steals white man.
Oh my God. White man can steal too.
That's right. Not even just any white man.
Like the whitest of men from Utah.

(01:13:41):
The guy who is the leading sister of all the all the NBA.
I'm just saying, yeah, I don't want to be that.
Just sorry, no. I didn't say, I didn't say that
he said that. I said it for you, brother.
Stay strong. Brother.
I got you. I won't.

(01:14:02):
I won't compare you to a white man.
All right. You make me feel like one of
those white cannons that try to stick up for people of.
Color. That's what I feel like right
now. Brother, we got this.
I'll take care of you. No, we don't.
How about the blind side? You.
Oh. My God, sidetracked side
stories. I remember there were, you know,
I obviously, I live in Minnesota.

(01:14:23):
George Floyd happened in Minnesota, his murder, and they
had protests. They had protests all the time.
Yeah, crazy. I know.
Weird, right? I had no idea that was.
Going to hear about this. But I had some white neighbors
on the other side of me, and as protesters are going down my
street, I just see them. I was like.

(01:14:47):
This ain't the Wakanda. My mom, my.
Mom, who's white. It was just like God.
Fucking lame ass God. I think it would have been
better if they did the Wakanda sign though.
If they were, if they did this, I like, I would have been like.
Wakanda Forever. All right, that fake place.

(01:15:09):
Let's go. Dez Bryant just comes out of
nowhere because he always does the great.
Stuff good story. God damn it.
What were we just getting ready to say?
I don't know. It drops Dimes.
Let's get to the next scene. Spence, it's on you The.
Next scene where somebody gets murdered.
So what do you want me to say about that?

(01:15:32):
No, but he does drop. Like, you know, we do talk about
how humor, we use it in order tomask how we're feeling.
And so this is exactly how Michael Caine's character is
doing that. He knows that he is most likely
going to die, and then now he's also going to have to watch his
wife die by assisted suicide. And now his home is gone.

(01:15:59):
Everything he has is gone. He knows that.
But he has to stay strong looking for all of them because
he knows that a, he wants to be there for his wife when she is,
you know, going to be dying as well as he doesn't.
He says he doesn't want to be ananchor to them and where they
have to go. And so us, and obviously a lot

(01:16:22):
of people, they're not going to have this situation be
happening, but it is a good representation of how we as
people like to use humor in order to really mask how we're
really feeling, even though it may be a very bad time for us.
But we don't don't want we don'tknow how to express it or we
don't want to express it and we don't want to worry the people

(01:16:47):
around us with our problems. Yeah, yeah.
So, yeah, he, he so Jasper, he, he knows he's going to die like
he, he knows. So like even before the, the
they get there, he, he gives his, his wife quiets this, which

(01:17:08):
is the government issued suicidedrug.
And so he does that so his wife won't suffer at the hands of the
intruders. And so that in and of itself, I
think it, it, I mean, it just shows, you know, how there's so
many, how caregivers, how like caregivers will, you know, take
care, like will will try to holdon to somebody's pain for them,

(01:17:31):
you know, some time to prevent them from feeling some sort of
pain. And he also, I don't know if you
call it this, he also, the dog is dead as well.
He gave the, the, the yeah. So like the, he gave the
quietest to the dog as well. And so there's that.
And so he, when he goes outside to meet with the intruders, I, I
think it's fair to say that he is very, very scared, but he

(01:17:57):
covers it with his humor. You know, he, he, he, he chooses
dignity and, and love over survival, right.
And his humor in the face of death, I think is what makes the
loss both devastating and beautiful at the same time.

(01:18:18):
You know, it, it's just, oh man,it's, it's, it's hard.
It's hard to watch. It's, it's hard, it's hard to
watch. Especially like when you watch
it in context when you see everything what Jasper means to
Theo. Yep, is pissed.
And like man, it is like it's heart wrenching as an audience

(01:18:40):
to watch. That's why I let it play a
little bit longer because I wanted to see the pain and anger
when you're like, hey, we're good.
I was like, let it play a littlebit.
So you, you mentioned in the preproduction that you know, you do
this all. All jokes aside, I feel like all
of us are in a pretty good placetoday.

(01:19:00):
I know we made a lot of jokes today.
We are not like horribly depressed today, at least I I
found out I'm speaking for everyone, but we are fine.
But at many, many, many, many, many times in my life, Spencer's
life, real life, we have done this to either stop from crying,
not focus or obsess about something that we can't control.

(01:19:21):
If you read my profile, my website for like therapy, it
says with lots of humor, right, It says.
And the clients come to me because they're like, hey, dude,
I need to fucking laugh. I haven't smiled in years.
I'm like, shit, we don't smile today, homie.
Eventually. So you this is a thing in your
identity too, huh? This, this.
Every once in a while I'll lean on humor to get out of a tough

(01:19:43):
moment. Oh yeah?
And if so, has it been detrimental at times or has it
been mostly life saving at times?
Both it was detrimental in the sense that I didn't realize that
I like when I was younger, that I was doing it to to cope as as

(01:20:05):
opposed to me facing fears and and having difficult
conversations. I would just turn to humor.
As a way, it's like deflect as opposed to like processing.
And I didn't know it was a coping mechanism.
I just thought it was funny, right?
I didn't realize that I was doing it because I was it was a

(01:20:27):
way for me to not face the things that I needed to face.
And once I was started to get diagnosed and having talks with
my therapist about why I was theway I am, I realized that I
could use levity as a way to notjust like cope, but to start a

(01:20:50):
conversation, right? So like, that's what my content
is. So like the concept that I put
up on on Instagram and TikTok and Facebook, a lot of it is
humorous because it makes it a little bit easier to digest.
Palatable. The conversation, yeah.
And so I do. I use my humor that way now, as

(01:21:11):
opposed to using humor to like deflect from how I'm feeling, as
opposed to just acknowledging how I feel.
You know, like if I was like, for example, if somebody, if
something happened and I was scared, just like Jasper in the
scene, I would say a stupid joke.
As opposed to just saying I'm scared and just not

(01:21:35):
acknowledging the fact that I'm scared or that I'm sad.
You know, I would use humor. Yeah.
I wonder where the hell we learned this from the funny
guys. Where where where where did we
learn this shit from? I I don't even know where I
picked it up from. I was trying to get.
Attention sitcoms. That's what I was going to.
That's what I was thinking, because that's a very good
question. It's like, where did we get that

(01:21:57):
from? Because like, like here's the
thing, nobody in my family is funny.
So like, like my mom and dad andmy sister are not known for
their comedy like. Motherfucker, you ain't even.
They're not funny. What do you?
Think you think you might have missed just cuz you black?
Actually yeah. Oh my God.
Sometimes it's funny because I am black, you know what I'm

(01:22:19):
saying? Like like, like, like dead ass,
like dead ass serious. Because like, like no lie.
This time next month I'll be or in October I'll be in
Connecticut because I'm hosting a couple events at the Gilmore
Girls Fan Festival. That's a real sentence.
That is a real sentence that I said with my mouth.
And so and and the reason why isbecause I documented myself

(01:22:40):
watching Gilmore girls for the first time because it's funny
that a 35 year old black man it is from it's true was watching
Gilmore Girls, which has no black people in it and it's
funny because I'm black. It's true it.
Is. Funny, so I use that to my
advantage. Yeah, I mean, hey, do you?
Think do you think man, especially?

(01:23:02):
Making on white media, yeah. Oh yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, absolutely. But still like but like.
Where did you learn? Like I don't, I haven't done any
therapy on this but I don't knowwhere the fuck I got it from.
Yeah, I think it was this. I think honestly, it was the
sitcoms because like I grew up with, I was like Fresh Prince,
different, different, different world living Single Martin, you

(01:23:26):
know, like, like those type of, of shows where there would be
like a variety of situations that happened.
And I would see how they would use humor to explain things or
to process like how they're feeling about them.
Like they would just use humor and it was funny.
And so I, I think I was inspiredby that, inspired by that type

(01:23:46):
of humor to, to process how I was feeling.
I didn't know what at the time, but I think that's why I.
Think so too. Yeah, I'm in that same boat.
And then also, I love like, stand up comedy.
And a lot of the time, although they're funny, they've had a lot
of like, fucked up things happenin their life.

(01:24:10):
And so they used that in a way to, you know, let the pain out,
but in a way that not only helpsthem kind of go through things,
but then also help the audience too.
I mean, you think about like Richard Pryor.
I mean, dude set himself on firebecause he was suicidal and he
made jokes about that. He made jokes about like he lit

(01:24:31):
a match and was like, oh look, that's Richard Pryor running
down the street. Like that's fucking hilarious.
And he's talking about his pain in such a way that he makes it
so funny. And just being able to even try
to get like a 10th of that funniness, but then also make it

(01:24:53):
serious about life. Is it that would that would
that's such an amazing thing youcould even try to do.
And so for me, I always try to like replicate that.
Now for me in my personal life, I also try to make sure I take
the time to like leave things alone to make sure that they can
express themselves in their own ways if they are going through
something. And then, you know, go on from

(01:25:15):
there once it's like actual goodtime to try to be funny.
But I get caught up in moments where, like, I try to be funny
where I probably should, shouldn't, and then, you know,
goes from there. But you know, that's how it
goes. Yeah, yeah, I know.
I I say some of the wildest shit, man.
One of the funnest moments I've had in a a long time.

(01:25:36):
I was at this thing teaching R as I told you, Spencer in the
last one. And this kid was wearing this,
it was R as and they had all these funny hats on.
So this kid had this big ass like pink Pokémon thing on his
head. Big big teddy bear shit.
You sit Wayne in the back, I'm supposed to be doing this talk
of mental health, depression, suicide, vicarious trauma,
empathy, burnout and he said, doctor Zurka, I can't hear you.

(01:26:00):
I said maybe you take that stupid fucking hat off.
You could and the. Whole stadium erupts.
I see a bunch of white girls like.
And. I can feel HR.
If you know how to make white girls laugh, you're set for.
Life. There you go.
Tell me I'm wrong. You're not wrong.

(01:26:20):
And I don't know. I think I developed this because
I remember walking with a bunch of knucklehead kids getting
picked on and I would say wild shit and then they would laugh.
And then I realized it can like help people like chillax or
moderate like traumatic events in the family and households.
So I know I use it as a protective mechanism to like

(01:26:42):
make sure I calm other people's thoughts and feelings and mood,
right? To like, you know, navigate
shit. And then eventually you just
start making more jokes. And then you meet a bunch of
weird other neurodivergent people and, and you know, meet
people like Spence and they're like boom, boom, boom, boom,
boom. And next thing you know, it's
just like, wow, this joke got way out of hand.

(01:27:02):
And so people keep listening to the podcast and they're like,
you 2 guys or something. Else you 2 guys or something
else? I'm like, really?
Pile on. We really do.
And I love it. And recently this is where I'm
going to pivot and say like, man, maybe mine came out of
trauma, blah, blah, blah. Maybe it's gotten in the way.
Yes, but we meet with a lot of neurodivergent men recently,

(01:27:25):
Spence, and they haven't had those friendships where they can
go Bing Bing boom, right, and they can keep going up in a long
time. I was like, dudes are my fucking
favorites. I'm like, I those are my best
friends since I was a kid. Is the people can
1UP1UP1UP1UP1UP1UP instead of the people that just kind of
look at you and you're like you're an idiot.

(01:27:46):
So I loved it because I found connection through it.
But I'm not sure how many peopleare free of mind like me and
Spence to like talk shit and have fun and be weird because I
think most people are too scaredof getting judged.
So I'm going to pivot to you do.You ever feel?
Like man, if I say some wild shit I try to be funny or make
people laugh that they'll judge me or they think I'm dumb or

(01:28:08):
less than because no one wants to be seen as the clown, right?
I, I don't, I don't, no, I don'tnecessarily view it that way.
Like, like I don't care. Like if people like as an
especially as an adult, like I don't if people look at my stuff
and they're like, this guy's weird and he's a nerd.
I'm like, yeah, sounds about right.
Like, like, like I just thrown it.

(01:28:29):
But I, I am though I am, however, conscious of when and
where to use it right. I like, I, I know that there are
times when humor is just is not appropriate.
Yeah. So like, like I'm, I'm very,
very conscious of that. And I, I like, for example, like

(01:28:51):
when I'm making content about anything mental health related.
One thing you'll notice is that I never ever, ever punched down.
Ever. I never punched down.
And #1 #2 most of my stuff is very self deprecating, right?
So, so I, I never punched down. It's mostly self deprecating.

(01:29:12):
And three, I don't talk about anything that I'm not diagnosed
with myself, right? And if I do, it's in
collaboration with somebody thatis.
So for example, like I, I on my podcast recently, I had, I had
somebody on named Kieran Rose. And he's, he's, he's known as
the autistic advocate. And so like, I was able to talk

(01:29:34):
about autism with him because he's diagnosed autistic.
So like, like, like it was like we have this kind of
conversation, but I would never make a joke about autism because
like, I'm, I'm not, I'm not diagnosed with autistic.
Yeah. Yeah.
So like, like, I mean, autism and idiocy are pretty, pretty
close to each other. But like, it's, it's I'm, I'm

(01:29:57):
very conscious of that. So I know when and where things
are appropriate. I'm very conscious of that.
Last thing, and then we can start to wrap things up.
So I've had people, right, they're talking to the partner
or the romantic partner, right? And, and so there'll be an
intimate moment, right? An emotional moment.
And they'll say like some weird shit, right?
Instantaneous some weird shit. And then the partner's just

(01:30:19):
like, bruh, have you ever gottenin trouble like that?
And if so, how did you handle it?
How did you take accountability?How did you navigate that shit?
So with one of the things that people ADHD have to deal with is
impulsivity. Yeah, that's the word.
Sometimes we'll, we'll just likespeak before our brain processes

(01:30:40):
things. Most of the time we'll do before
our brain processes things. So, but sometimes we'll just
like speak like you'll notice a lot like like a lot of people
with ADHD, sometimes we'll, you know, like start talking before
somebody's finished talking, youknow, like little things like
that because we're just impulsive.
So there's been plenty of times when like I'll, I'll just like

(01:31:03):
say something and then like as soon, as, as soon as the words
leave my mouth, I'm like, no, no, no, but it's too late.
It's already out there, you know, So like there's been,
there's been plenty of time thatlike I'll, I'll look back and
I'm like, why the hell did I saythat?
Jesus Christ, like that, Like, Oh my God, it's.
Cringe. It's so fucking cringe.

(01:31:25):
Yeah, yeah, sometimes they won'teven notice.
Like sometimes I'll just make a big deal out of something that
really wasn't a big deal, but hey, anxiety and so like, I'll
just like overthink it and and it drives me nuts.
But yeah, it's definitely happened for sure.
Have you had, have you apologized and then had to do
the whole accountability thing? Yeah, Yeah, I'm trying to think

(01:31:46):
of a, a recent time. I, I was, I was at work and
yeah, we were, I forgot the context of what was happening,
but I think my Co worker was talking about how like they were
working out and like their body was sore or something like that.

(01:32:08):
And I'm, I just said, oh, because you're getting old now.
Like I just, I just said it, right.
But like, it's not, it's really not, it's not a big deal.
However, I'd like the person I said it to like I don't like,
I'm not close with them. Like it's just like, I don't
know, like what their deal is. Then we're not like friends.
I just kind of said it and I apologize.

(01:32:29):
It wasn't a big deal, but I apologize because the look on
her face when I said it, like for a brief second I was like,
shit. And I'm like, I'm sorry, I'm
sorry, I'm sorry. She's like, no, no, it's a big
deal. But for a second I was like, I'm
so sorry. I was just kidding.
But for a moment I was in my head and I was still in my head
about it. Cuz I'm like, I just, I didn't
think about it. I just said it.
Yep, you know, yeah. Yep.

(01:32:51):
Yeah. I will say though, some of the
best lines I usually have is when I don't even think about it
and just just comes right out. Yeah, yeah, I, I have an improv
background, right? So like, like, so like I
sometimes I, I'm like, I'm really quick on my feet because
like, it's just like, that's howI was trained, right?
You know? So it's just like, I'll just

(01:33:12):
like, say things. Sometimes I'm like, why?
Why the hell did you Jesus? 100% Yep.
But it comes in handy sometimes when like, sometimes like, it's,
it's impulsive. But like, sometimes, like, we'll
say some really funny stuff thatjust like, comes out of nowhere
and people aren't expecting it because we're impulsive.
And so like yeah, it like works.Out it's my favorite.

(01:33:32):
Then you can let the leash off right?
You get, you know, you're like, Oh yeah, go ahead and run free
and you're like, Oh my God. Oh, yeah, you shouldn't.
Have done that. So many possibilities.
Wait, let me. Let me turn on my light.
I'm I'm, I'm I'm teeth and eyes right now like it's I'm.
Why the hell did it get so dark in there?
Like the cat from fucking Alice in Wonderland.

(01:33:56):
Because it's because it's it's day turning into night.
Motherfucker, it's 6:00. How long is?
That well, it's it's storming. It's like it's.
Oh God. OK, there's stuff going on.
Believe it or not, Nah, he's in a different place than you.
He's in a different location. It's sunny.
It's sunny over here. What the fuck?
Black people in their weather. Always complaining about the

(01:34:19):
weather, yeah. We said we said that in my
gentrified brand new luxury apartment.
We don't have many of the colorshere.
I live in a very gentrified. Luxury.
Apartment complex. Yeah, I'm one of those.
I'm one of those. I feel like I want to say some

(01:34:43):
horribly shit. I have I have AI have a working
elevator. Holy shit you are living the
luxury. That's better than Big Bang
Theory. They didn't have an elevator.
I don't. I don't have the key.
I have a FoB. I have a FoB.
He has a FoB. Oh my God damn, living a good
life, right? There, I know, I know.

(01:35:04):
He just got his new job working for ICE.
Son of a bitch. Got that signing bonus signing.
Bonus guy, I saw your ass with your mask on.
I know I'm moving. I know I'm moving to DC.
They need some cops in the street.
Oh my God. All right, Spencer, we got a new
sauce to put on this thing. We were doing so good.

(01:35:25):
We were doing really good. I don't.
Think we were. If you look back, that's not
going to be the case. Anyway.
All right, Kai, let people know where you are, where they can
find you, what you got going on besides the Gilmore confession.
Everything in Connecticut, yeah,I'm really easy to find.

(01:35:50):
You just go on Instagram or TikTok or Facebook or YouTube
and you just type in the vibe with Kai and, and you'll find me
and you'll I'm I just look for the black guy making really
dumb, really stupid jokes like that's, that's me.
OK. And like I, I have a podcast
called the Vibaki podcast. I have a blog called the Vibaki

(01:36:12):
blog. I have an e-mail list called,
you guessed it, the Vibaki emails.
Wow. I know, I know, conventions.
I'm consistent. Consistent, I guess so, yeah.
So I'm really easy to find. I'm on every major platform and
I'm just, I just try to, you know, again, add levity to the
conversation surrounding, you know, mental health, especially

(01:36:32):
ADHD, anxiety, depression, OCD, along with making content about
embracing your introversion. Because I'm a believe it or not,
I'm a hella introvert. And also adulthood struggles,
you know, the struggles of beingan adult in today's world.
Because like, who put us in charge?
Like, why are we in charge? Like somebody made a mistake,

(01:36:53):
somebody messed up. Jesus Christ it.
Was the whites anyway. Or the lack of that.
Well, I'm no, no. I'm not.
Yeah, no, I'm just going to say other weird shit.
Yeah, it's it was. Them.
It's always them. It's.
Are you saying we're Coonan? What's going on now?

(01:37:14):
Let's keep it going. There ain't no white man in
charge of me spam. I'm going to keep going.
What are you talking about When we're done?
All right. Well, that's the podcast.
Go watch children of men is my favorite movie.
Go watch it and like the the scene that I that we watch
that's like halfway through the movie.

(01:37:35):
So it's not even like spoiling like a lot.
OK, and there's and and I'll, I'll leave this, I'll leave
this. One of the reasons why you
should watch this movie. It's directed by my favorite
director, Alfonso Caron, who directed like Gravity and Harry
Potter. And I think Prisoner of Azkaban
I think is the one he did. But anyway, he's known for his
extended shots. So like he likes to do tracking

(01:37:58):
shots where like things are donein one take.
And there are there are two major tracking shots in this
movie, both action sequences. And they are no lie, the best
tracking shots that you will ever see in a movie ever.
And there's a lot of good ones out there, but this one, that's
great and it's worth it. Any back shots?

(01:38:21):
So I mean Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ.
No, you didn't. I want you passed out.
That was that impulsivity. That was that impulsivity.
You can see it on his face any time he's about to have.
He's like. How much did it cost you to rent
the movie? 4-4 Bucks 4 Bucks, 450. 4 bucks.

(01:38:43):
$4.00 to watch the coops. Yes.
Oh yeah, coops. No.
Got the coops nice. But yeah, before I was intruded
on that with whatever I was about to also say that like, he
seems like he has a lot of greatserious topics that the director
like he does. And then also with that,

(01:39:05):
Prisoner of Azkaban was probablyone of the first like Harry
Potter films where it started getting darker and darker as
they kept going on. And so that was probably one of
my favorite. Prisoner of Azkaban is the best
Harry Potter book and movie. Yeah, I said it there.
I said it. I said it fair.
Enough. That's fair enough.
We'll see if the Potter fans come after you.
I'm. Listen, proud Slytherin over

(01:39:27):
here. So bring it.
Oh shit, oh shit, that explains so much.
So much. It does.
It seems like fucking Harry Potter.
Who the fuck is this guy he? Doesn't even have a wand, he
just has his key fob now actually.
I keep doing next to my keep up.I actually do have a sliver A.
Sliver shit. Next, attached to my key fob.
I'm not even joking. So it's like.

(01:39:47):
Of course, you 2 fucking slithering God damn sliver.
All right, All right, everybody.Thanks for watching Spencer Nas.
Hi everyone, much appreciation, much love and remember take care
of yourselves. Or don't.
Completely up to you. Peace.

(01:40:08):
Sponsored by Monster. Jesus.

All Episodes

Why Humor is Survival | The Vibe with Ky Joins Us for Children of Men [ ⁨@TheVibeWithKy⁩ ]

Episode Transcript

Popular Podcasts

Stuff You Should Know

Dateline NBC

CrimeLess: Hillbilly Heist

.css-15opob5{left:0;position:absolute;top:0.8rem;} All Episodes

.css-14f5ked{margin:0;word-break:break-word;display:-webkit-box;-webkit-box-orient:vertical;box-orient:vertical;-webkit-line-clamp:2;overflow:hidden;}Why Humor is Survival | The Vibe with Ky Joins Us for Children of Men [ ⁨@TheVibeWithKy⁩ ]