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December 10, 2025 67 mins

Undercover FBI agent Scott “Big Country” Payne spent 23 years infiltrating America’s most dangerous extremist groups, biker gangs, cartel operations, and neo-Nazi terror cells… and what he saw is absolutely shocking.


From being stripped at gunpoint while wired, to stopping an active murder plot, to participating in a goat-sacrifice ritual with armed white supremacists on acid, Scott pulls back the curtain on the underground world of extremism — and how these groups really operate.


✅ WHAT YOU’LL LEARN


🧠 How undercover FBI operations actually work

🕵️ How extremist cells recruit online & groom vulnerable young people

🔫 How mass shooters are “ranked” inside extremist forums

🐐 Why goat sacrifice rituals and pagan symbolism play a role in neo-Nazi groups

⚡ How Scott slowed down a murder plot from inside the group

🔥 What “accelerationism” is and why it’s spreading online

🚨 Why active shooter incidents keep rising and how to stop them

💀 How biker gangs test for undercover agents

💬 Why today’s online culture fuels polarization, rage & violence

🏚️ The psychological toll of years undercover — and how Scott recovered


CHAPTERS

00:00 – The murder plot Scott uncovered inside The Base

04:55 – Stripped at gunpoint while wired: the biker club basement incident

10:48 – Surviving by luck: how they missed his recording device

14:15 – Cartel cases, 40 kilos of cocaine & high-risk narco operations

17:50 – Scott’s path into undercover work & early infiltration skills

21:59 – Burnout, collapse & the mental toll of going too deep

28:04 – Active shooter training & why violence keeps rising

36:05 – Why debates are impossible today & the rise of cancel culture

38:55 – Online radicalization: how kids are groomed in chats & games

47:00 – The Base: pagan rituals, goat sacrifice & the “Wild Hunt”

55:56 – Inside the detailed murder plan & how Scott slowed it down

58:40 – The FBI takedown & preventing a mass killing

1:06:30 – 9/11 memories, undercover life & Scott’s final reflections


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