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Charlie Kirk's tragic death represents a modern Christian martyrdom that serves as a wake-up call for believers to stand boldly for biblical truth in an increasingly hostile culture. His life exemplifies what it means to be uncompromising in faith, speaking truth even when facing opposition.
• Standing for truth comes with a cost in today's culture
• Charlie Kirk represents America's first modern Christian martyr
• His organization "Turning Point USA" prophetically marks where we stand as a nation
• We must not retreat in fear or retaliate in anger but revert to kingdom principles
• The spirit of Jezebel (fear and intimidation) wants to silence believers
• Biblical persecution was predicted by Jesus in John 15-16
• We need churches and pastors willing to address controversial moral issues
• God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power, love and a sound mind
• This moment calls for serious prayer and spiritual awakening
• The church must rise up with boldness rather than compromise
Tomorrow at 1pm, join Pastor J. Anthony Gilbert on Cornerstone Television for a special broadcast about Charlie Kirk and what his martyrdom means for believers. Tune in to Dimensions every weeknight at 8:30pm for more insights on current events from a biblical perspective.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's been just a little bit over 24 hours since
the passing of Charlie Kirk, andI'm going to use a word right
now, in this moment, that manyof you have not heard.
If we've heard of it, it hasn'tbeen close to us it's the word
martyr.
I believe that Charlie Kirk isa 21st century American martyr.
That's why many of us arestruggling to wrap our minds
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around the reality of what hasjust happened.
I believe it's a wake-up calland we're going to get into a
whole lot of that and more.
So stay tuned, because all thatis coming up on Dimensions.
Well, good day, everybody, andit is a good day.
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This is the day the Lord hasmade.
We are going to rejoice and beglad, and thank you so much for
tuning into Dimensions.
I'm Jay Anthony Gilbert,alongside my beautiful wife,
pastor Tiff is back in the housewith me.
So good to see you again.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Welcome to Dimensions .
Well, I'm glad to be back herewith you, and we have some good
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Speaker 1 (01:15):
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Now, this has been a majorshift that has happened in the
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And we're not only just talkingabout the Bible, we're talking
about current events and thingsthat are happening, which I do
want to mention this.
Tomorrow at 1 pm I hopesomebody puts this in the chat 1
pm Pastor J Anthony Gilbert,along with some people there at
Cornerstone Television, sidneyGoldman will also be with me and
we are going to be doing a liveshow about Charlie Kirk on
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God has just been downloadingall sorts of things into my
spirit and that's why we want toget these things out.
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You know, it's very importantthat we are here right now to
share these things.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
That's right.
Well, you know, I kind of wantto go into just everything
that's been going on withCharlie Kirk and I had a couple
of women today that called andthey were just so distraught and
I understand.
I mean, you know, for me itkind of hit me hard and just I
could feel the sadness of themoment.
But I also understand theimportance of the moment and
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while you were talking I broughtup the scripture and it says 2
Chronicles 7, and my people, whoare called by my name, humble
themselves and pray and seek myface and turn from their wicked
ways, then I will hear fromheaven and I will forgive their
sin and I'll heal their land.
You know, one of the thingsthat popped out was the word
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turn and I thought it wasinteresting that Charlie Kirk's
organization was.
TPUSA, turning Point, usa and Ifeel I've been sensing this ever
since yesterday that we are ata turning point in our nation.
I don't think it's acoincidence at all that that
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organization was called TurningPoint and we are here at this
very moment at a turning point.
I was sharing with some of thewomen earlier today, and even on
prayer today I was sharing withthem that I believe this is a
time where we need to takeadvantage of the kingdom turn
that God is wanting us to be apart of in this day and in this
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hour, and a part of that turningis for us to pray, babe.
I feel like this is a pointwhere we need to stop playing
around.
You know, we need to really geton our knees.
We don't have the luxury ofsaying anymore that we're too
busy, we don't have the time.
You know, I was watching on itwas a clip on Facebook, I think,
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and it said if we could justuse our Bibles as much as we use
our phones.
And I thought about it and Isaid, yeah, you know, there's
sometimes where we just we pickup our phone just out of
instinct.
You know we're scrolling, justout of instinct.
You know we, if we're bored, wepick up our phones and we look
and we're searching.
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But imagine if we did that withour Bible.
Imagine if we said every timewe have a moment where we're
thinking, okay, we want to pickup our phone and just scroll, or
we want to pick up our phoneand just look at recipes, and
that's not all bad.
What I'm saying is I believe inthis day and in this hour, babe,
that we need to be rooted,firmly rooted, in the word of
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God.
We need to know what this wordof God says.
We need to not only quote thesescriptures, but we need to
apply it in our lives.
That is, honestly.
That is the only way thatthings are going to turn when we
stay connected to the vine,when we know the word of God and
we know the truth of the wordof God.
It's the inerrant word of God.
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It's not I was telling somebodytoday.
It's not a buffet people, it'snot a buffet.
I know some people who look atthe word of God and it's a
buffet.
You know what I don't likereally how that sounds, so I'm
not going to take that.
I don't really like how thatmakes me feel, so I'm not going
to take that.
But I really like how thatmakes me feel, so I'm going to
utilize that and I'm going tomake that applicable to my life.
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And that is not what Godintended at all.
It's either you believe thewhole inerrant word of God or
you don't.
And I think in this day and inthis hour is we are.
God is looking for people tostand up and firmly make a stand
on the word of God.
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And what the word of God says,you know and I think that's one
of the things that Charlie Kirkdid very well is he stood up for
his faith.
He stood up and shared thegospel.
And it's interesting, I thought, and I shared this with you
earlier I thought it was reallyinteresting that now, as a
result, the gospel is beingshared.
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I mean, there was a bigbillboard in the city of
Pittsburgh that I saw with hisname on it and it said pro-life
up top, and pro-life is not apolitical issue.
And we've shared that pro-lifeis not a political issue, it's a
moral kingdom issue, and theseare some of the things that he
stood for.
So I think we're just at aweighty moment.
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I think that's what a lot ofpeople feel is we're just it's a
moment filled with a lot ofweights.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Well, I think too with that is that it's not
people want to talk about allthis stuff that he was
politically assassinated.
I want to change that.
I want to say he was aspiritual martyr.
He was a 21st century martyr.
He died for his faith.
Ladies and gentlemen, let's notget it twisted here.
And he died because of thethings that he shared that this
world doesn't want to hear about, and one of the things that I
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think people have missed in thisday and hour.
Read John chapter 15 and Johnchapter 16.
Matter of fact, all of you thatgo to another level this Sunday,
lord willing, I'm gonna betalking about the kingdom
response.
Check this out the kingdomresponse to suffering and
persecution.
We have lost sight of that.
And, like you said aboutgetting into the Bible, if we
were in our Bibles we'dunderstand what's going on right
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here.
If we understood really what'shappening, we would know,
because we're trying to discernit through a natural lens.
We're trying to look at it likewell, I see it through the
natural.
Oh my gosh, what about his wifeand what about his kids?
What about that?
All that is important.
I'm not downplaying any of that, but if you do not have a
kingdom mindset about this.
This can make you afraid.
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This can make you scared.
This can make you all thosethings Jesus said in John
chapter 15, very clearly he saidthey hated me long before they
hated you, and the Bible sayssomething very profound.
I don't want to preach mymessage yet, but the Bible says
that because they hated him,because they did not know the
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father One of the things peoplehave to understand that the
reason why there's hatred outthere in the world is because
they love their sin and theydon't know the father.
Read your Bible.
The answers are right there inthe book of John chapter 15.
And what I love about it?
He tells his disciples thatlisten, they're going to thrust
you out of the synagogues.
He said they're going todeliver you up to death.
They hated me, a servant's notgreater than his master.
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And he begins to talk about allthese things.
But this is what I love aboutit.
Here's the encouraging part,ladies and gentlemen.
In the middle of all of thisthat is going on, jesus says to
them in the last couple ofverses John chapter 15, 15 and
going into John chapter 16.
Don't worry, don't let it be astumbling block, for I am going
to send a helper.
I'm going to send theparacletos, the one who comes
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alongside to help.
People wonder what happened withCharlie Kirk.
Why did this happen?
He's a 21st century UnitedStates of America martyr country
.
United States of America aremartyr.
He is the first martyr that Ihave seen in America that has
died for his faith.
That's why we say why did he getmartyred?
Why did he get martyred?
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Because he was being a light inthe midst of darkness, because
he was willing to share thetruth, because he was willing to
say a man is a man, a woman isa woman.
Marriage is between one man andone woman.
He is willing to confrontpeople and what I love about it,
he would bring people to thecollege platform and actually
demonstrated democracy, givethem an opportunity they can
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share their point.
He would share their point andif you ever watch any of his
clips, you'll see they wouldcuss him out to no end and he
would let them talk and he woulddo a Socratic teaching moment,
which is where they would gatheraround and allow the diplomacy
of talking and to come togetherand to chit-chat.
And you share your view, I'llshare my view and I love what he
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said on his tent.
Prove me wrong.
Let me share this with you guys.
The Lord showed me this.
This is the generation of,where the Elijahs and the false
prophets have been broughttogether.
He was a modern day Elijah, mygood God, almighty.
And what do I mean by that?
He brought people together andsaid let the God that answers by
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fire be God.
You do your way, I'll do my way.
Prove me wrong.
He was a modern day Elijah.
And listen to me.
Listen to me, very importanthere.
Do not allow the spirit ofJezebel to make you retreat into
a cave.
This is not the time to retreat.
This is not the time toretaliate, but this is the time
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to revert back to the kingdom ofGod.
I'm going to say that again.
It's not the time to retreat.
It's not the time to retaliate.
It's a time to revert back tothe word of God and the kingdom
of God.
All of you that are battlingwith fear.
The devil is a liar.
Greater is he that is within usthan he that is within the
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world.
I am praying for his wife.
I am praying for his wife, butI am.
I am wondering what her responseis going to be.
I just don't.
I.
And even if she listen.
If she doesn't, I no one wouldblame her.
I wouldn't blame her, no matterhow she's dealing with this.
I don't want to seeminsensitive, but I just believe.
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I just I just have animpression.
I think there's a woman of Godin there that's called stand up,
and God is not going to leaveher helpless.
God is not going to leave herhopeless.
She will have to grieve andwalk through this, but you're
talking about martyrdom here.
I don't want to even use theword assassination anymore,
because assassination is yeah,you were killed by somebody else
, but when you are martyred, youare martyred because of your
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beliefs and what you stand for,and I know that God is going to
resurrect his family.
God is going to bless hisfamily because he died for his
faith.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Well, you know you mentioned about his wife and I
got an opportunity to hear herspeak just on a few different
occasions and she is truly apowerhouse and those of you who
are watching.
I don't know if you saw this,but I thought I saw this very
thing and, if you did, if youcould just type it in and just
let me know, give me a thumbs upand to confirm what I think I
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heard.
But I think, in kind ofscrolling and looking over
different information I thoughtthey said she put up, she
tweeted or Facebook, one ofthose things I thought she put
up.
The scripture of the Lord is avery present help.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Yeah, god is our refuge, god is our strength.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
A very present help in the time of trouble.
Yeah, she put that up rightbefore he died, less than an
hour.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
That's what you died Less than an hour.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
That's what I heard.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Less than an hour, 11.45 am.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Right, right, right.
And I didn't know if it wasafter that, but it was actually
before.
So that word is in there.
She is a woman of God.
She is a Bible-believing,bible-reading woman of God, and
I believe this because of thepromise that is in the scripture
.
I believe that she's going toexperience a grace and a
strength during this time.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
That's my prayer.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
That she's, that she has it.
So she didn't even think thatshe would be able to experience.
I believe that God is going tocome and truly be the wind
beneath her wings.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
So, and I'm praying that with that, that that's my
prayer, that she will rise upand say oh death, where is your
sting?
Oh, gray, where is your victory?
That God would raise her up andgive her a grace and a strength
and a dignity.
That state, because this is amartyrdom, you know, and that's
what I want people to see Don'tuse the word assassination.
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He was martyred for his faith,and I believe that the church of
God came in on martyrdom.
It will also go out on thebacks of martyrdom as well, and
we have to understand, ladiesand gentlemen, the world hates
the world.
When I say the world, the worldsystem, Let me stop real
quickly too.
Stop making this political.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Yeah, that's right, because it's not.
That is the devil's plan.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
It's a political thing.
It's a political assassination.
No, no, no, because you'reremoving the spiritual aspect of
it out.
You cannot interpret thisthrough a natural lens.
You have to see it through thekingdom.
You have to have a kingdomperspective.
This is not political.
This is spiritual.
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This is not right wing and leftwing.
This is not Republican andDemocrat.
How can I say this?
I said this long before CharlieKirk was martyred.
I said this back beforePresident Trump was in office.
I said it long before PresidentBiden was in office.
I said I'm not a Republican,I'm not a Democrat, but I am a
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Christocrat and you have tounderstand everything that goes
on in the kingdom of God, that'shappening in the world.
You have to see it through akingdom perspective.
God is not calling us toretaliate.
Come on somebody.
God is not calling us toretreat.
He's calling us to revert backto his word, and my prayer for
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her is, in the name of Jesus,that she would rise up with
supernatural strength and thatGod would grace her with might
and power, and that his deathwould not be in vain and that
the church would resurrectitself and begin to come forth
in the name of Jesus and beginto stand for something.
Woe unto every preacher and anyof these preachers.
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We need milquetoast Christianpreachers placating to people.
As a matter of fact, on my waycoming into this, I was thinking
in my mind I was like man, Igot to do more.
I was like man, I got to domore.
I was like this man's out thereat 31.
Standing up for his faith,taking on college liberal
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thinking people I mean justtaking him on and people in the
church can't even stand up formarriage, won't even stand up
for abortion In the church, notin the world where he's at, in
the church.
And then we wonder why we haveno power.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Well, you know, I think, isn't that what revival
is?
Isn't that the start of revival, though, when true repentance
comes to the surface, where wesay Lord, forgive us for not
being obedient.
Forgive us.
God for not creating and being abetter disciple of Christ.
Lord, forgive us for not beingan ambassador, a better disciple
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of Christ.
Lord, forgive us for not beingan ambassador, a better
ambassador of Christ.
Forgive us for thoseopportunities that you've given
us to share the gospel and wedidn't take it because we were
scared about how people weregonna think, how we could
possibly offend somebody.
You know, for me I'm like, Ithink about eternity.
Amen, that's what I think about, you know, when I share about
eternity.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
I'm like I think about eternity.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
That's what I think about.
You know, when I share abouteternity, I share that if you
have a piece of paper, okayeverybody, you take a piece of
paper, you draw a line and youtake a very it's a pointed,
whether it's a pointed pencil,pointed pen, whatever and you
just put a dot on that line.
That dot is actuallyrepresentative of our time here
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on earth.
It's just as it relates toeternity.
It's a little itty bitty blipon the timeline of eternity and
really, if you want to even sayit like that, because there's no
time necessarily in eternity,but I just feel like, babe, we
have to make a stand, peoplehave to make a stand.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
People gotta make a stand.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
You know, it reminded me of the dream that I had.
I had a dream Maybe the Lordwill speak to me a lot of times
in dreams.
I had a dream maybe three, fouryears ago, and in this dream
there was this sand.
We were at a beach and it wasthis huge sand beach and the
Lord's finger came down fromheaven.
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He took his finger and it waslike this huge finger and he
drew a line in the sand.
Indicative of these are mypeople, but these are not, and I
believe where we're at rightnow, we're going to see the true
emerge and the people that arenot afraid to share the gospel.
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There is a people, and the Lordis trusting us.
There's a people out there thatneed to hear the word of God.
They need to hear the word ofGod.
It's eternity.
I'm so, you know, grateful tosee somebody even as young as
Charlie Kirk share the gospel atall costs.
You know, I think he also saidtoo that somebody asked him how
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would you like to be remembered?
And if I'm not mistaken againthose of you who are watching if
I'm leaving something outbecause I'm going off of pure
memory here but if I'm notmistaken, he said that he would
like to be remembered for hisfaith.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Yeah, for his faith, and he is.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
And he is.
He's being remembered for hisfaith.
He's just zeal for Jesus.
His name is a strong tower.
I mean, he loved his Lord, youknow, and that's the people we
need more, people that arewilling to make that stand,
because there's so much at stakeright now.
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I believe right now I don't knowif you sense it, you that are
watching, but I sense it in myspirit.
I mean it is heavy on me, Isense it just.
I mean I've been sensing itsince yesterday very heavy that
we are at a turning point.
I mean I said it before earlier, but I believe that we are at a
turning point.
I think we're going to seethings shift in a very expedited
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way.
I believe that things arecoming, things are we're on the
cusp of happening right now andI believe it's going to be very
important for the believer andthose who are followers of
Christ to be firmly rooted inthe Lord, in His Word, and
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spending time in the presence ofGod right now.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Yeah, and you know, and it's so important that we
understand what he stood for andthe way that he was willing to
stand up for his beliefs.
And, man, we could take a pageout of that for every preacher
that's in America today, mygoodness and I was thinking
about if he had to come backright now.
He would say don't weep for me,but weep for yourselves.
And I was thinking like man.
I was like Lord, give us peoplethat are willing to stand up,
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give us people that are willingto go out there and to confront
things.
Everybody might not agree withall his methodologies when he
went about it.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Nobody's perfect right, but still his willingness
to go out there.
Yeah, and there are people thatare hiding in the closet Right,
that don't want to say anythingbecause they might offend
somebody Exactly.
We need to throw that out thewindow, everybody.
It's time to throw that, thatthought of not wanting to offend
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somebody.
And now, now, now, listen.
This is the thing I'm notsaying.
I think it's how we say things.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Of course I'm not saying we should be rude or
disrespectful.
The truth are heard enough byitself.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Yeah, you know, I'm not saying we should do it, but
we should do it in love, right?
You know what I mean.
And it's amazing when you dothat in love, what happens, you
know.
I just want to point out whatSavannah shared.
She said she believes thatthere are those that are of the
remnant alive.
Now, for such a time as this,the Lord is really trying to see
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who is all in, and I believethat you know, and I think
that's the call.
The question really is are weall in?
I think you have to askyourself right now are you all
in?
Are we all in If the Lord said,go, do this, are you going to
do it?
Are you going to be obedient?
If the Lord said, hey, sharethat, will you do it?
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I think these are certainthings that right now, we have
to ask ourselves.
Are we willing to go at allcosts?
Are we willing to put it outthere on the table and say, god,
I trust you, for you, god, Itrust you.
For you, god, I live and foryou I die?
Where are you at?
I think that's a question weall can ask ourselves at this
time.
And can I say this?
I want to say one thing thoughthis whole couple weeks we have
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experienced a lot of tragedy.
We need to be praying also forthose who have lost their lives
in the school shootings.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
In Denver, Colorado.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
In Denver just recently.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
I think it was Denver Colorado.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Well, that was just recent.
And then there was anotherschool shooting where there were
young kids in a church serviceand the gunmen fired shots.
And these young people children,school-age children lost their
lives.
You know even the young womanwho got stabbed on the train
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from.
I think she was a Ukrainianrefugee.
These are things.
That's why it's so importantI'm mentioning this too because
one we want to recognize themtoo, because we want to make
sure that we keep them, theirfamilies, in prayer as well, but
also it is so important to makesure that we are on our knees.
I had somebody today call meand I can understand the
frustration.
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I mean I'm frustrated as well.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
You have all these emotions inside, but I think
it's important to make sure thatwe stay on our knees emotions
inside, but I think it'simportant to make sure that we
stay on our knees, and I'm goingto be talking this weekend on
Sunday about that.
So, even if you don't come tomy church, if you want to tune
in, I'm going to be talkingabout the kingdom response to
suffering and persecution.
I think it's a lost art and Ithink the reason why we don't
see much persecution in thechurch anymore is because we're
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not saying anything worthy ofpersecution.
All we're serving up in mostpulpits is appetizers and
desserts.
It's time to bring out thebroccoli and the cauliflower and
the Brussels sprouts and theasparagus and the tomatoes and
all the things that come alongwith a good, healthy diet and
putting aside all the junk food.
And that's one thing thatCharlie Kirk did.
He was out there attacking.
That's why people didn't likeit and that's why the Lord spoke
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to me prophetically earlierthis year and then also even the
last couple of years.
He said you're going to see areturn of the Cain spirit back
in the earth, and what thatmeans is that Cain killed Abel
because his deeds were evil andAbel's were righteous, and so,
instead of repenting, cain saidI'll just take out the son, I'll
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just take him out and thenhopefully, that will be better.
And what happened?
The Bible says Abel's bloodcried out from the ground to the
father.
I believe even Charlie Kirk'sblood is crying out to the
father, just like the blood ofthose 63 million plus babies
that cries out to the ground.
But this one here has adifferent cry.
As a matter of fact, in thebook of Revelation it talks
about how then the martyrs, theblood, would cry out.
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They would begin to cry out toGod and say how long until you
will avenge us?
And I believe that there arepeople that are living.
That's why, ladies andgentlemen, if you are in a
church, if your pastor in thelast year or two hasn't
mentioned anything abouttransgender, hasn't mentioned
anything about marriage, hasn'tmentioned anything about
abortion, hasn't mentionedanything about these atrocities
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that are happening in the earth,to give you a biblical
perspective and understanding.
Not to condemn, listen to me,not but that you would have a
moral compass to know right andwrong.
And I said this earlier.
It's not about left and right,it's not about Republican and
Democrat, it's aboutrighteousness, holiness and hell
.
That's basically what this songis about.
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It's about good and song is.
It's about good and evil.
It's about right and wrong.
It has nothing to do withpolitical parties, ladies and
gentlemen.
This has everything to do withsimply god's word, and it's
important that we stand up andthat we cry loud and we spare
not and that we declare whatthus sayeth the Lord All the
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meanwhile, we need to beinterceding for Erica Kirk, for
those two young babies.
A baby that's three and justeither one or getting ready to
turn one, it's just.
It's so sad to see what hashappened, but this is.
We need to have a kingdomresponse.
So all of you that are battlingwith anger and fear fear is the
big one too.
I want to go back to that forjust a minute, because when
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Elijah, once he brought downfire from heaven, what happened?
He said choose you this day,whom you're going to serve,
prove me wrong is what he wassaying.
He was a modern day Elijah, andJezebel sent out her voice,
says I let God do more to me,and more so if I don't have you
like one of these prophets,because he had killed all the
prophets.
And so Jezebel ended up causinghim to run into the cave.
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He retreated, he went back inthere and begged for his life.
Ladies and gentlemen, do yourealize something here?
I don't know if you even knewthis.
I don't think I've shared thisrevelation with you.
Elijah was carrying now watchthis the anointing to destroy
Jezebel.
He was anointed to destroyJezebel.
How do I know that?
Because when he was in the cave, the Lord spoke and said go
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anoint Elisha, his successor,and he said go anoint Jehu.
And I think it was Jehaziel ifI'm not, if I have the name, or
forgive me if the name's wrongbut there was another prophet
and he said whoever escapes Jehuain't going to escape Jehaziel.
He said whoever escapesJehaziel ain't going to escape
Jehu.
And the Bible says that Elishaand the prophets, they brought
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Jezebel down.
The spirit of Jezebel, thislying spirit, this tormenting
spirit, this fearful spirit, Ibelieve is on the run in the
name of Jesus.
And I believe any of you thatare battling with fear right now
, that God wants you to rise upand be strong in him and the
power of his might, to cry loudand despair, not to stand up for
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your faith, for there are morewith us than there are with them
.
And what I love about Elijah,when God showed up to him there
at the cave, he said there were7,000 that did not bow the knee
to Baal nor kiss him Hallelujah.
Thousand that did not bow theknee to Baal nor kiss him,
hallelujah.
There are people out there rightnow that are waiting for some
voices to stand up, and Ibelieve that the death of
Charlie Kirk is going to beginto resurrect the army of the
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living God, that people aregoing to begin to rise up, that
the army that has been back,pushed back and pushed to the
side, that has not stood up, isgoing to stand up for their
faith and going to declare whatthus saith the Lord.
And I'm believing, god, thatthis will be the turning point
and we will begin to see anational reformation and revival
and a great awakening, becausethe real church is going to
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stand up and the real God isgoing to answer by fire, and I
believe that we're in that day.
I don't mean to preach, but Isense that in the house today.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Great word, though Great word.
There's so much truth behindthat, and I think too, you know,
we understand we've heard thescripture that you know the Lord
hasn't given us a spirit offear, but a power, love and a
sound mind.
That's what we need to walk inwith Christians.
You know fear is debilitating,and so that's why the enemy
comes with fear.
When you are stricken with fear, you can't move.
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It's hard for you to moveforward.
It's hard for you to do whatGod has called you to do, and
it's in your fullness and thefullness that he's created you
to do it.
It's very, very difficult, sowe need to.
I'm so glad that you mentionedthat about fear we want to let's
pray over that.
In the name of Jesus, let's prayover that In the name of Jesus,
we'll pray over that, thatspirit of fear that anybody's
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experiencing.
And if there's anybody that isexperiencing anything else that
you need prayer for, we want topray for you.
But I thought it wasinteresting too.
I don't know if any of you whoare watching and you can type in
if you've seen this.
I don't know if any of you haveseen the NBA stand up and make
note and honor him.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
The.
Nfl make note Baseball players.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Baseball players Athletes.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Actors.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Actors Colleges.
You know, I think that it's sointeresting.
I don't know if anybody hasever seen anything like that.
You know, when it comes to thistype of figure, you know, with
other things, I know we've seenanything, but I haven't have you
seen anything like that.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
No, not quite like this.
I think this is unprecedented,but when's the last time you've
seen such a horrific shootingand a martyrdom of somebody?
It's never.
I like I've been on this planet, just turned 48 and I have
never seen a Christian martyr upclose.
This was televised for theworld to see.
Now it doesn't mean there's notmartyrdom happening around the
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world.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Right.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Right, I'm talking about in America.
In America, ladies andgentlemen, it's right here at
our front doors.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Now, now this was live, right.
Was this broadcast live?
Speaker 1 (31:50):
No, no no, it wasn't Well when I say live.
They brought it out live on CNN, msnbc, every news station,
entertainment Tonight.
They showed live.
But he wasn't on live.
On live, no, when it happened.
No, but thank God for socialmedia because everybody gets a
chance now to see it.
And if you haven't seen, Iactually have the video.
I'm not going to show it,obviously, but I have the video,
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the upfront, personal video ofwhat happened to him during that
time and I want to mention thistoo to what you said.
You know you'd mentioned aboutfear, um, and I don't recommend
watching the video.
I mean it's pretty uh, it'spretty rough, uh, in John 15, he
goes through and he talks abouthow the world would hate him
and he warned the disciples.
But I like something reallygood here.
It says but when the helpercomes, he's talking.
Right after he talks aboutpeople hating him and how they
hated me without cause and allthese things he says.
But when the helper comes, whoI shall send to you from the
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father, the spirit of truth.
Ladies and gentlemen, you can'tbe persuaded with truth.
Until you get the Holy Ghost inyour life, you'll fall every
time, just like Peter.
You'll be cussing, saying Idon't know the man, but man,
when you get the Holy Ghost, mygood God, almighty, everything
changes.
Who proceeds from the Father?
He will testify of me and youwill bear witness because you
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have been with me from thebeginning, and then go to
chapter 16.
These things I have spoken toyou.
That you should not be made tostumble.
They will put you out of thesynagogues.
That you should not be made tostumble, they will put you out
of the synagogues.
I thought that was amazing.
That means they're going tokick you out of church.
That means there's a lot ofreligious folk out there.
Hear me well.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
That's why I said if your pastor ain't preaching the
truth.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
You better run in this season because you're going
to need some real preaching inthis day and hour, real
instruction, and to stand inthis evil day.
I'm not talking aboutcondemning folk.
I'm talking about right isright, wrong is wrong.
If you're wrong, there's roomfor you at the cross.
Come and repent, receive JesusChrist, be cleansed from your
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sins, become a new creature inChrist, develop a new nature and
walk in eternal life.
He says I've written thesethings to you so that you won't
be stumbled.
They're going to put you out ofsynagogues.
The time is coming Now.
Look at this here, babe.
The time is coming that whoeverkills you will think he offers
God a service.
People right now, listen to me.
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This is the hour of deception.
He says here the time is comingthat whoever kills you thinks
he will offer God a service.
And these things they will doto you because they have not
known the father nor me.
But these things I have toldyou that when the time comes,
which is right now, you mayremember that I told you of them
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.
And these things I did not sayto you at the beginning because
I was with you Now.
I'm not going to go into therest of it there, but my point
in saying this is this is whathappened to Charlie Kirk.
This is the biblical kingdomresponse, understanding that,
jesus said hey, they hated me,they're going to hate you.
And if he wouldn't have sharedanything about abortion, if he
wouldn't have shared anythingabout abortion, if he wouldn't
have shared anything aboutmarriage, if he wouldn't have
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shared anything about thosethings, he would not be where he
is today.
But I can see heaven openinghis arms and welcoming him and
saying well done, good andfaithful.
I got at least one out therethat's willing to stand for
righteousness and I believethere's a whole lot more too but
he was willing to pay theultimate price because he
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believed in what he believed in.
My question to you and everypreacher that's out there are
you convicted?
Are you persuaded about whatyou believe in?
If not, this is the time torepent.
It's not the time to retreat.
Come on.
This is not the time to walk infear.
This is not the time toretaliate.
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It's time to retreat.
Come on.
This is not the time to walk infear.
This is not the time toretaliate.
It's time to revert back to.
Some of us have never evenheard a sermon like this.
That's why this weekend, babe,I'm going to be preaching on the
kingdom response for sufferingand persecution.
They're two different things.
Suffering and persecution aretwo different things.
And the reason why we don'tneed and the Lord dropped this
message, he said, jay, thereason why we don't need and the
Lord dropped this message andsaid, jay, the reason why you
don't see Holy Spirit power?
Because he said, he said andyou shall receive power after
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the Holy Ghost has come upon youand you shall be witnesses.
People think that word witnessmeans just go and tell somebody
about your faith.
Yeah, that's part of it.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
That word is martyr.
You shall have power to die foryour faith.
I bet with all of my heartCharlie Kirk never winced.
He never even winced, he wasconvicted.
And I bet if he could be hereright now, come back.
He'd say don't weep for me,Weep for yourselves.
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Not because of any other reason, but simply we need to repent
as a church and we need to learnfrom his example and stand in
our own way, in our own grace,that we stand for the word of
God.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Amen, and I think also too.
You know, things like this cancause tensions to fly and to
flare.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Really, and so I think this is not the time
either to argue.
If you find somebody wanting toargue, step back, let them say
what they want to say, but thenyou can go and pray, and I think
that's really the importantpart.
You know, I think, as we kindof come to a close here.
I think it's very important tostand on the word of God in
Romans 8, 28.
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On the word of God in Romans 8,28.
And I had a piece of revelation.
I shared this with you is youknow, the word of God says and
most of us have heard it is allthings work.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
All things, all things, not just some things,
all things.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
All things work together for good for those who
love God and who are calledaccording to their purpose.
But there are two words beforein the translation that I read.
It says we know that all things.
I think we need to get into aposition where we know.
We know the God that we serve.
We know the God that we servehas never lost a battle.
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He's never lost a battle.
There's a song I can't rememberwho sings it, but there's a
song out there that says thathe's never lost a battle.
We know that God is in control.
We know.
So, as believers in salt andlight on the earth, we need to
walk around like we know.
We know, we know in our spirit.
We know that the God that weserve is the Lord of the
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breakthrough.
We know, babe.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
We know that's right and we're going to take a minute
and we're going to pray justfor a moment.
We want you to join in with usand those of you that are
battling with fear or whateverit is that you might be battling
with, god doesn't want you towalk in.
That that's the spirit ofJezebel, that's Jezebel's voice
being sent out, saying and youknow what's amazing, elijah
never died.
Matter of fact, elijah's exitout of this earth was one of the
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most miraculous.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Right, it was.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Jezebel said he was going to take him out.
She ended up dying.
The Bible says the dogs lickedup her blood and ate her flesh.
I mean, come on.
I mean, that's the woman.
That's what's going to happento that spirit in this day and
hour.
Amen, I'm telling you.
I believe with all of my heart.
The spirit of is going to bebrought down in the name of
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Jesus, but it's not a person.
It's not a person, it's aspirit.
God will never anoint you tokill what he died for, and I
believe that if we will walk inthe power.
That's why you got to get in agood gospel preaching, fire,
filled, tongue talking ministrywhere the glory of God is, where
people are convicted of truthand at least listen, even if
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they ain't talking in tongues.
I believe in tongues and allthat.
At least let them stand fortruth.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Let them stand for truth in Jesus' name.
Let them stand under the truthof God's word.
A man is a man, a woman is awoman.
Marriage is between one man andone woman.
Abortion is anything that isconceived in the womb.
It is a human being.
It is murder.
God knew them from thefoundations of the words that
before you were formed in yourmother's womb.
I knew you and approved of you.
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No matter what you're hearing,you need to stand for the truth.
So we're going to pray that Godwill just fill you with fire,
fill you with faith, fill youwith conviction, and we're going
to pray over the Kirk familyand all of you that may be
battling.
You lift up your heads becauseGod is with us.
God is for the Kirk family.
God's kingdom will move forward.
God is not done with America.
He's not done with you.
You don't have to walk aroundin fear and torment.
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The greater one is on theinside of you.
You are completely invincibleuntil you have done everything
God has called you to do.
The only reason why Charlie Kirkis gone is because he has
finished his course.
He kept the faith and I heardone man my brother told me said
that Pastor Greg Laurie saidthat he was only 31 years old,
but he lived a full life.
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He lived a full life because hedid more in 31 years than some
people do in 3,100 years.
That's just how great of a lifehe lived.
You want to pray, and then I'llpray, and then we'll wrap up.
Would you join with us as wepray right now?
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Yes.
So, lord, god, we just thankyou today for who you are we
thank you for the mighty,matchless name of Jesus, father
God, and in you we haveeverything, father God.
So right now we lift up beforeyou everyone that's on this book
live Father.
I thank you, o God, that in you, father God, we have freedom
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and you we have peace, and youhave joy we know, Lord God, that
your word says that you havenot given us a spirit of fear.
But of power love and a soundmind.
So I thank you, O God, formultiplying that power
multiplying that love andmultiplying the sound mind in
your people today.
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Father, God, Lord, I just pleadthe blood of Jesus over
everyone on this phone calleveryone that's here.
Not a phone call, but Facebook.
Father, I plead the blood ofJesus over their calls, their
purposes their destinies.
I plead the blood of Jesus overtheir minds, their bodies, their
hearts, their emotions, fatherGod, I thank you, o God, that no
weapons formed against themshall prosper.
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Father God, we lift up allthose who have experienced loss
of a loved one.
Father God, your word says thatyou are close to the broken
hearted Father.
God.
So I thank you, Lord God, forinfusing them with your strength
infusing them with your grace.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Father God.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
Even allowing them to tap into a joy even in this dry
place in their lives, fatherGod, so I thank you for your
presence in our life, father God, father, I ask, oh God, so I
thank you for your presence inour life, father God, father, I
ask, oh God, that, even as weare remembering all the work
that Charlie Kirk did, fatherGod, and his stand for you,
father God, I thank you, oh God,that there's going to be people
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and men and women that aregoing to rise up and say God, it
is you, father God.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
Yes, yes, yes, it doesn't matter what man says.
Hallelujah.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
But it's you, Father God, who we're sold out for.
So, Father God, we thank you,oh God.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
For the turning of the tide.
The turning of the tide In thisseason, father God, for the
salt and light being salt andlight in a massive way in this
day and in this hour.
So God, in a massive way inthis day and in this hour.
So, god, we thank you today.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
For who you are.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
And, father, we pray for every person that's battling
with the spirit of fear.
Father, your word says you havenot given us a spirit of fear,
but of power and of love and ofa sound mind.
We pray for every person rightnow, father, that's battling in
their minds, oh God, questioningtheir faith, battling with
whatever questions might berunning around in their mind.
Father, I thank you.
You've made it clear in yourword why these things have.
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You said they that live godlywill suffer persecution.
You said blessed are they thatsuffer persecution.
Father, you've made it clear tous why these things happen.
But, lord, you said in thisworld we would have tribulation.
But be of good cheer, for youhave overcome the world.
So, father, I declare for everyperson that's watching, that
they will walk in, overcomingpower, overwhelming, anointing
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that they will not retreat, theywill not retaliate, but, lord,
they would be revived and revertback to the word and the
kingdom of God.
Father, bless them in themighty name of Jesus.
We pray for Erica Kirk and thetwo babies.
Oh God, we pray for all of hisfamily, his friends and those
that have been affected.
Father, we pray, in the name ofJesus, that you would gird them
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up and bless them.
I pray that the grace ofalmighty God would come upon her
, for you have chosen theirfamily for such a time as this.
Father God, I pray for everypreacher to repent that has
lived compromise.
Oh God, every Christian torepent, father, that has lived
compromise, where we have notdone enough, where we have not
stood up.
Oh God, may this be the day,May this be the turning point,
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may this be the hour where yourpeople rise up and become all
that you have called them to be.
And, father, god, we thank youfor the Lion of the tribe of
Judah that is rising up insideof each and every one of us.
May we be filled with yourglory, with your boldness and
with your conviction, and, lord,baptize every person that is
listening right now.
Lord, may they be filled afreshwith the power of the Holy
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Ghost.
O, god and Lord, I thank youtoday for your conviction, for
your grace and for your goodness.
O, god, bless all things,father, and may there be an
awakening and a revival, but,lord, may it start in the house
of God and Father, we thank yougiving you the praise, the honor
and all of the glory.
In Jesus' name, we pray Amen,amen, amen, amen.
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today.
We hope that you are blessed.
Don't forget tomorrow, 1 pm, Iwill be on Cornerstone
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Tomorrow night, 8.30 pm, we'llbe right back here talking more
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It's been just a little bit over 24 hours since
the passing of Charlie Kirk, andI'm going to use a word right
now, in this moment, that manyof you have not heard.
If we've heard of it, it hasn'tbeen close to us it's the word
martyr.
I believe that Charlie Kirk isa 21st century American martyr.
That's why many of us arestruggling to wrap our minds
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around the reality of what hasjust happened.
I believe it's a wake-up calland we're going to get into a
whole lot of that and more.
So stay tuned, because all thatis coming up on Dimensions.
Well, good day, everybody, andit is a good day.
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This is the day the Lord hasmade.
We are going to rejoice and beglad, and thank you so much for
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pastor Tiff is back in the housewith me.
So good to see you again.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Welcome to Dimensions .
Well, I'm glad to be back herewith you, and we have some good
stuff that we want to talk abouttonight.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
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Now, this has been a majorshift that has happened in the
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God has just been downloadingall sorts of things into my
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You know, it's very importantthat we are here right now to
share these things.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
That's right.
Well, you know, I kind of wantto go into just everything
that's been going on withCharlie Kirk and I had a couple
of women today that called andthey were just so distraught and
I understand.
I mean, you know, for me itkind of hit me hard and just I
could feel the sadness of themoment.
But I also understand theimportance of the moment and
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while you were talking I broughtup the scripture and it says 2
Chronicles 7, and my people, whoare called by my name, humble
themselves and pray and seek myface and turn from their wicked
ways, then I will hear fromheaven and I will forgive their
sin and I'll heal their land.
You know, one of the thingsthat popped out was the word
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turn and I thought it wasinteresting that Charlie Kirk's
organization was.
TPUSA, turning Point, usa and Ifeel I've been sensing this ever
since yesterday that we are ata turning point in our nation.
I don't think it's acoincidence at all that that
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organization was called TurningPoint and we are here at this
very moment at a turning point.
I was sharing with some of thewomen earlier today, and even on
prayer today I was sharing withthem that I believe this is a
time where we need to takeadvantage of the kingdom turn
that God is wanting us to be apart of in this day and in this
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hour, and a part of that turningis for us to pray, babe.
I feel like this is a pointwhere we need to stop playing
around.
You know, we need to really geton our knees.
We don't have the luxury ofsaying anymore that we're too
busy, we don't have the time.
You know, I was watching on itwas a clip on Facebook, I think,
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and it said if we could justuse our Bibles as much as we use
our phones.
And I thought about it and Isaid, yeah, you know, there's
sometimes where we just we pickup our phone just out of
instinct.
You know we're scrolling, justout of instinct.
You know we, if we're bored, wepick up our phones and we look
and we're searching.
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But imagine if we did that withour Bible.
Imagine if we said every timewe have a moment where we're
thinking, okay, we want to pickup our phone and just scroll, or
we want to pick up our phoneand just look at recipes, and
that's not all bad.
What I'm saying is I believe inthis day and in this hour, babe,
that we need to be rooted,firmly rooted, in the word of
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God.
We need to know what this wordof God says.
We need to not only quote thesescriptures, but we need to
apply it in our lives.
That is, honestly.
That is the only way thatthings are going to turn when we
stay connected to the vine,when we know the word of God and
we know the truth of the wordof God.
It's the inerrant word of God.
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It's not I was telling somebodytoday.
It's not a buffet people, it'snot a buffet.
I know some people who look atthe word of God and it's a
buffet.
You know what I don't likereally how that sounds, so I'm
not going to take that.
I don't really like how thatmakes me feel, so I'm not going
to take that.
But I really like how thatmakes me feel, so I'm going to
utilize that and I'm going tomake that applicable to my life.
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And that is not what Godintended at all.
It's either you believe thewhole inerrant word of God or
you don't.
And I think in this day and inthis hour is we are.
God is looking for people tostand up and firmly make a stand
on the word of God.
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And what the word of God says,you know and I think that's one
of the things that Charlie Kirkdid very well is he stood up for
his faith.
He stood up and shared thegospel.
And it's interesting, I thought, and I shared this with you
earlier I thought it was reallyinteresting that now, as a
result, the gospel is beingshared.
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I mean, there was a bigbillboard in the city of
Pittsburgh that I saw with hisname on it and it said pro-life
up top, and pro-life is not apolitical issue.
And we've shared that pro-lifeis not a political issue, it's a
moral kingdom issue, and theseare some of the things that he
stood for.
So I think we're just at aweighty moment.
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I think that's what a lot ofpeople feel is we're just it's a
moment filled with a lot ofweights.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Well, I think too with that is that it's not
people want to talk about allthis stuff that he was
politically assassinated.
I want to change that.
I want to say he was aspiritual martyr.
He was a 21st century martyr.
He died for his faith.
Ladies and gentlemen, let's notget it twisted here.
And he died because of thethings that he shared that this
world doesn't want to hear about, and one of the things that I
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think people have missed in thisday and hour.
Read John chapter 15 and Johnchapter 16.
Matter of fact, all of you thatgo to another level this Sunday,
lord willing, I'm gonna betalking about the kingdom
response.
Check this out the kingdomresponse to suffering and
persecution.
We have lost sight of that.
And, like you said aboutgetting into the Bible, if we
were in our Bibles we'dunderstand what's going on right
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here.
If we understood really what'shappening, we would know,
because we're trying to discernit through a natural lens.
We're trying to look at it likewell, I see it through the
natural.
Oh my gosh, what about his wifeand what about his kids?
What about that?
All that is important.
I'm not downplaying any of that, but if you do not have a
kingdom mindset about this.
This can make you afraid.
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This can make you scared.
This can make you all thosethings Jesus said in John
chapter 15, very clearly he saidthey hated me long before they
hated you, and the Bible sayssomething very profound.
I don't want to preach mymessage yet, but the Bible says
that because they hated him,because they did not know the
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father One of the things peoplehave to understand that the
reason why there's hatred outthere in the world is because
they love their sin and theydon't know the father.
Read your Bible.
The answers are right there inthe book of John chapter 15.
And what I love about it?
He tells his disciples thatlisten, they're going to thrust
you out of the synagogues.
He said they're going todeliver you up to death.
They hated me, a servant's notgreater than his master.
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And he begins to talk about allthese things.
But this is what I love aboutit.
Here's the encouraging part,ladies and gentlemen.
In the middle of all of thisthat is going on, jesus says to
them in the last couple ofverses John chapter 15, 15 and
going into John chapter 16.
Don't worry, don't let it be astumbling block, for I am going
to send a helper.
I'm going to send theparacletos, the one who comes
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alongside to help.
People wonder what happened withCharlie Kirk.
Why did this happen?
He's a 21st century UnitedStates of America martyr country
.
United States of America aremartyr.
He is the first martyr that Ihave seen in America that has
died for his faith.
That's why we say why did he getmartyred?
Why did he get martyred?
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Because he was being a light inthe midst of darkness, because
he was willing to share thetruth, because he was willing to
say a man is a man, a woman isa woman.
Marriage is between one man andone woman.
He is willing to confrontpeople and what I love about it,
he would bring people to thecollege platform and actually
demonstrated democracy, givethem an opportunity they can
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share their point.
He would share their point andif you ever watch any of his
clips, you'll see they wouldcuss him out to no end and he
would let them talk and he woulddo a Socratic teaching moment,
which is where they would gatheraround and allow the diplomacy
of talking and to come togetherand to chit-chat.
And you share your view, I'llshare my view and I love what he
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said on his tent.
Prove me wrong.
Let me share this with you guys.
The Lord showed me this.
This is the generation of,where the Elijahs and the false
prophets have been broughttogether.
He was a modern day Elijah, mygood God, almighty.
And what do I mean by that?
He brought people together andsaid let the God that answers by
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fire be God.
You do your way, I'll do my way.
Prove me wrong.
He was a modern day Elijah.
And listen to me.
Listen to me, very importanthere.
Do not allow the spirit ofJezebel to make you retreat into
a cave.
This is not the time to retreat.
This is not the time toretaliate, but this is the time
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to revert back to the kingdom ofGod.
I'm going to say that again.
It's not the time to retreat.
It's not the time to retaliate.
It's a time to revert back tothe word of God and the kingdom
of God.
All of you that are battlingwith fear.
The devil is a liar.
Greater is he that is within usthan he that is within the
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world.
I am praying for his wife.
I am praying for his wife, butI am.
I am wondering what her responseis going to be.
I just don't.
I.
And even if she listen.
If she doesn't, I no one wouldblame her.
I wouldn't blame her, no matterhow she's dealing with this.
I don't want to seeminsensitive, but I just believe.
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I just I just have animpression.
I think there's a woman of Godin there that's called stand up,
and God is not going to leaveher helpless.
God is not going to leave herhopeless.
She will have to grieve andwalk through this, but you're
talking about martyrdom here.
I don't want to even use theword assassination anymore,
because assassination is yeah,you were killed by somebody else
, but when you are martyred, youare martyred because of your
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beliefs and what you stand for,and I know that God is going to
resurrect his family.
God is going to bless hisfamily because he died for his
faith.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Well, you know you mentioned about his wife and I
got an opportunity to hear herspeak just on a few different
occasions and she is truly apowerhouse and those of you who
are watching.
I don't know if you saw this,but I thought I saw this very
thing and, if you did, if youcould just type it in and just
let me know, give me a thumbs upand to confirm what I think I
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heard.
But I think, in kind ofscrolling and looking over
different information I thoughtthey said she put up, she
tweeted or Facebook, one ofthose things I thought she put
up.
The scripture of the Lord is avery present help.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Yeah, god is our refuge, god is our strength.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
A very present help in the time of trouble.
Yeah, she put that up rightbefore he died, less than an
hour.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
That's what you died Less than an hour.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
That's what I heard.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Less than an hour, 11.45 am.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Right, right, right.
And I didn't know if it wasafter that, but it was actually
before.
So that word is in there.
She is a woman of God.
She is a Bible-believing,bible-reading woman of God, and
I believe this because of thepromise that is in the scripture
.
I believe that she's going toexperience a grace and a
strength during this time.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
That's my prayer.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
That she's, that she has it.
So she didn't even think thatshe would be able to experience.
I believe that God is going tocome and truly be the wind
beneath her wings.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
So, and I'm praying that with that, that that's my
prayer, that she will rise upand say oh death, where is your
sting?
Oh, gray, where is your victory?
That God would raise her up andgive her a grace and a strength
and a dignity.
That state, because this is amartyrdom, you know, and that's
what I want people to see Don'tuse the word assassination.
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He was martyred for his faith,and I believe that the church of
God came in on martyrdom.
It will also go out on thebacks of martyrdom as well, and
we have to understand, ladiesand gentlemen, the world hates
the world.
When I say the world, the worldsystem, Let me stop real
quickly too.
Stop making this political.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Yeah, that's right, because it's not.
That is the devil's plan.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
It's a political thing.
It's a political assassination.
No, no, no, because you'reremoving the spiritual aspect of
it out.
You cannot interpret thisthrough a natural lens.
You have to see it through thekingdom.
You have to have a kingdomperspective.
This is not political.
This is spiritual.
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This is not right wing and leftwing.
This is not Republican andDemocrat.
How can I say this?
I said this long before CharlieKirk was martyred.
I said this back beforePresident Trump was in office.
I said it long before PresidentBiden was in office.
I said I'm not a Republican,I'm not a Democrat, but I am a
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Christocrat and you have tounderstand everything that goes
on in the kingdom of God, that'shappening in the world.
You have to see it through akingdom perspective.
God is not calling us toretaliate.
Come on somebody.
God is not calling us toretreat.
He's calling us to revert backto his word, and my prayer for
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her is, in the name of Jesus,that she would rise up with
supernatural strength and thatGod would grace her with might
and power, and that his deathwould not be in vain and that
the church would resurrectitself and begin to come forth
in the name of Jesus and beginto stand for something.
Woe unto every preacher and anyof these preachers.
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We need milquetoast Christianpreachers placating to people.
As a matter of fact, on my waycoming into this, I was thinking
in my mind I was like man, Igot to do more.
I was like man, I got to domore.
I was like this man's out thereat 31.
Standing up for his faith,taking on college liberal
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thinking people I mean justtaking him on and people in the
church can't even stand up formarriage, won't even stand up
for abortion In the church, notin the world where he's at, in
the church.
And then we wonder why we haveno power.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Well, you know, I think, isn't that what revival
is?
Isn't that the start of revival, though, when true repentance
comes to the surface, where wesay Lord, forgive us for not
being obedient.
Forgive us.
God for not creating and being abetter disciple of Christ.
Lord, forgive us for not beingan ambassador, a better disciple
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of Christ.
Lord, forgive us for not beingan ambassador, a better
ambassador of Christ.
Forgive us for thoseopportunities that you've given
us to share the gospel and wedidn't take it because we were
scared about how people weregonna think, how we could
possibly offend somebody.
You know, for me I'm like, Ithink about eternity.
Amen, that's what I think about, you know, when I share about
eternity.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
I'm like I think about eternity.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
That's what I think about.
You know, when I share abouteternity, I share that if you
have a piece of paper, okayeverybody, you take a piece of
paper, you draw a line and youtake a very it's a pointed,
whether it's a pointed pencil,pointed pen, whatever and you
just put a dot on that line.
That dot is actuallyrepresentative of our time here
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on earth.
It's just as it relates toeternity.
It's a little itty bitty blipon the timeline of eternity and
really, if you want to even sayit like that, because there's no
time necessarily in eternity,but I just feel like, babe, we
have to make a stand, peoplehave to make a stand.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
People gotta make a stand.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
You know, it reminded me of the dream that I had.
I had a dream Maybe the Lordwill speak to me a lot of times
in dreams.
I had a dream maybe three, fouryears ago, and in this dream
there was this sand.
We were at a beach and it wasthis huge sand beach and the
Lord's finger came down fromheaven.
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He took his finger and it waslike this huge finger and he
drew a line in the sand.
Indicative of these are mypeople, but these are not, and I
believe where we're at rightnow, we're going to see the true
emerge and the people that arenot afraid to share the gospel.
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There is a people, and the Lordis trusting us.
There's a people out there thatneed to hear the word of God.
They need to hear the word ofGod.
It's eternity.
I'm so, you know, grateful tosee somebody even as young as
Charlie Kirk share the gospel atall costs.
You know, I think he also saidtoo that somebody asked him how
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would you like to be remembered?
And if I'm not mistaken againthose of you who are watching if
I'm leaving something outbecause I'm going off of pure
memory here but if I'm notmistaken, he said that he would
like to be remembered for hisfaith.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Yeah, for his faith, and he is.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
And he is.
He's being remembered for hisfaith.
He's just zeal for Jesus.
His name is a strong tower.
I mean, he loved his Lord, youknow, and that's the people we
need more, people that arewilling to make that stand,
because there's so much at stakeright now.
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I believe right now I don't knowif you sense it, you that are
watching, but I sense it in myspirit.
I mean it is heavy on me, Isense it just.
I mean I've been sensing itsince yesterday very heavy that
we are at a turning point.
I mean I said it before earlier, but I believe that we are at a
turning point.
I think we're going to seethings shift in a very expedited
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way.
I believe that things arecoming, things are we're on the
cusp of happening right now andI believe it's going to be very
important for the believer andthose who are followers of
Christ to be firmly rooted inthe Lord, in His Word, and
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spending time in the presence ofGod right now.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Yeah, and you know, and it's so important that we
understand what he stood for andthe way that he was willing to
stand up for his beliefs.
And, man, we could take a pageout of that for every preacher
that's in America today, mygoodness and I was thinking
about if he had to come backright now.
He would say don't weep for me,but weep for yourselves.
And I was thinking like man.
I was like Lord, give us peoplethat are willing to stand up,
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give us people that are willingto go out there and to confront
things.
Everybody might not agree withall his methodologies when he
went about it.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Nobody's perfect right, but still his willingness
to go out there.
Yeah, and there are people thatare hiding in the closet Right,
that don't want to say anythingbecause they might offend
somebody Exactly.
We need to throw that out thewindow, everybody.
It's time to throw that, thatthought of not wanting to offend
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somebody.
And now, now, now, listen.
This is the thing I'm notsaying.
I think it's how we say things.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Of course I'm not saying we should be rude or
disrespectful.
The truth are heard enough byitself.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Yeah, you know, I'm not saying we should do it, but
we should do it in love, right?
You know what I mean.
And it's amazing when you dothat in love, what happens, you
know.
I just want to point out whatSavannah shared.
She said she believes thatthere are those that are of the
remnant alive.
Now, for such a time as this,the Lord is really trying to see
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who is all in, and I believethat you know, and I think
that's the call.
The question really is are weall in?
I think you have to askyourself right now are you all
in?
Are we all in If the Lord said,go, do this, are you going to
do it?
Are you going to be obedient?
If the Lord said, hey, sharethat, will you do it?
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I think these are certainthings that right now, we have
to ask ourselves.
Are we willing to go at allcosts?
Are we willing to put it outthere on the table and say, god,
I trust you, for you, god, Itrust you.
For you, god, I live and foryou I die?
Where are you at?
I think that's a question weall can ask ourselves at this
time.
And can I say this?
I want to say one thing thoughthis whole couple weeks we have
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experienced a lot of tragedy.
We need to be praying also forthose who have lost their lives
in the school shootings.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
In Denver, Colorado.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
In Denver just recently.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
I think it was Denver Colorado.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Well, that was just recent.
And then there was anotherschool shooting where there were
young kids in a church serviceand the gunmen fired shots.
And these young people children,school-age children lost their
lives.
You know even the young womanwho got stabbed on the train
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from.
I think she was a Ukrainianrefugee.
These are things.
That's why it's so importantI'm mentioning this too because
one we want to recognize themtoo, because we want to make
sure that we keep them, theirfamilies, in prayer as well, but
also it is so important to makesure that we are on our knees.
I had somebody today call meand I can understand the
frustration.
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I mean I'm frustrated as well.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
You have all these emotions inside, but I think
it's important to make sure thatwe stay on our knees emotions
inside, but I think it'simportant to make sure that we
stay on our knees, and I'm goingto be talking this weekend on
Sunday about that.
So, even if you don't come tomy church, if you want to tune
in, I'm going to be talkingabout the kingdom response to
suffering and persecution.
I think it's a lost art and Ithink the reason why we don't
see much persecution in thechurch anymore is because we're
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not saying anything worthy ofpersecution.
All we're serving up in mostpulpits is appetizers and
desserts.
It's time to bring out thebroccoli and the cauliflower and
the Brussels sprouts and theasparagus and the tomatoes and
all the things that come alongwith a good, healthy diet and
putting aside all the junk food.
And that's one thing thatCharlie Kirk did.
He was out there attacking.
That's why people didn't likeit and that's why the Lord spoke
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to me prophetically earlierthis year and then also even the
last couple of years.
He said you're going to see areturn of the Cain spirit back
in the earth, and what thatmeans is that Cain killed Abel
because his deeds were evil andAbel's were righteous, and so,
instead of repenting, cain saidI'll just take out the son, I'll
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just take him out and thenhopefully, that will be better.
And what happened?
The Bible says Abel's bloodcried out from the ground to the
father.
I believe even Charlie Kirk'sblood is crying out to the
father, just like the blood ofthose 63 million plus babies
that cries out to the ground.
But this one here has adifferent cry.
As a matter of fact, in thebook of Revelation it talks
about how then the martyrs, theblood, would cry out.
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They would begin to cry out toGod and say how long until you
will avenge us?
And I believe that there arepeople that are living.
That's why, ladies andgentlemen, if you are in a
church, if your pastor in thelast year or two hasn't
mentioned anything abouttransgender, hasn't mentioned
anything about marriage, hasn'tmentioned anything about
abortion, hasn't mentionedanything about these atrocities
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that are happening in the earth,to give you a biblical
perspective and understanding.
Not to condemn, listen to me,not but that you would have a
moral compass to know right andwrong.
And I said this earlier.
It's not about left and right,it's not about Republican and
Democrat, it's aboutrighteousness, holiness and hell
.
That's basically what this songis about.
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It's about good and song is.
It's about good and evil.
It's about right and wrong.
It has nothing to do withpolitical parties, ladies and
gentlemen.
This has everything to do withsimply god's word, and it's
important that we stand up andthat we cry loud and we spare
not and that we declare whatthus sayeth the Lord All the
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meanwhile, we need to beinterceding for Erica Kirk, for
those two young babies.
A baby that's three and justeither one or getting ready to
turn one, it's just.
It's so sad to see what hashappened, but this is.
We need to have a kingdomresponse.
So all of you that are battlingwith anger and fear fear is the
big one too.
I want to go back to that forjust a minute, because when
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Elijah, once he brought downfire from heaven, what happened?
He said choose you this day,whom you're going to serve,
prove me wrong is what he wassaying.
He was a modern day Elijah, andJezebel sent out her voice,
says I let God do more to me,and more so if I don't have you
like one of these prophets,because he had killed all the
prophets.
And so Jezebel ended up causinghim to run into the cave.
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He retreated, he went back inthere and begged for his life.
Ladies and gentlemen, do yourealize something here?
I don't know if you even knewthis.
I don't think I've shared thisrevelation with you.
Elijah was carrying now watchthis the anointing to destroy
Jezebel.
He was anointed to destroyJezebel.
How do I know that?
Because when he was in the cave, the Lord spoke and said go
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anoint Elisha, his successor,and he said go anoint Jehu.
And I think it was Jehaziel ifI'm not, if I have the name, or
forgive me if the name's wrongbut there was another prophet
and he said whoever escapes Jehuain't going to escape Jehaziel.
He said whoever escapesJehaziel ain't going to escape
Jehu.
And the Bible says that Elishaand the prophets, they brought
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Jezebel down.
The spirit of Jezebel, thislying spirit, this tormenting
spirit, this fearful spirit, Ibelieve is on the run in the
name of Jesus.
And I believe any of you thatare battling with fear right now
, that God wants you to rise upand be strong in him and the
power of his might, to cry loudand despair, not to stand up for
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your faith, for there are morewith us than there are with them
.
And what I love about Elijah,when God showed up to him there
at the cave, he said there were7,000 that did not bow the knee
to Baal nor kiss him Hallelujah.
Thousand that did not bow theknee to Baal nor kiss him,
hallelujah.
There are people out there rightnow that are waiting for some
voices to stand up, and Ibelieve that the death of
Charlie Kirk is going to beginto resurrect the army of the
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living God, that people aregoing to begin to rise up, that
the army that has been back,pushed back and pushed to the
side, that has not stood up, isgoing to stand up for their
faith and going to declare whatthus saith the Lord.
And I'm believing, god, thatthis will be the turning point
and we will begin to see anational reformation and revival
and a great awakening, becausethe real church is going to
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stand up and the real God isgoing to answer by fire, and I
believe that we're in that day.
I don't mean to preach, but Isense that in the house today.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Great word, though Great word.
There's so much truth behindthat, and I think too, you know,
we understand we've heard thescripture that you know the Lord
hasn't given us a spirit offear, but a power, love and a
sound mind.
That's what we need to walk inwith Christians.
You know fear is debilitating,and so that's why the enemy
comes with fear.
When you are stricken with fear, you can't move.
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It's hard for you to moveforward.
It's hard for you to do whatGod has called you to do, and
it's in your fullness and thefullness that he's created you
to do it.
It's very, very difficult, sowe need to.
I'm so glad that you mentionedthat about fear we want to let's
pray over that.
In the name of Jesus, let's prayover that In the name of Jesus,
we'll pray over that, thatspirit of fear that anybody's
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experiencing.
And if there's anybody that isexperiencing anything else that
you need prayer for, we want topray for you.
But I thought it wasinteresting too.
I don't know if any of you whoare watching and you can type in
if you've seen this.
I don't know if any of you haveseen the NBA stand up and make
note and honor him.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
The.
Nfl make note Baseball players.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Baseball players Athletes.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Actors.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Actors Colleges.
You know, I think that it's sointeresting.
I don't know if anybody hasever seen anything like that.
You know, when it comes to thistype of figure, you know, with
other things, I know we've seenanything, but I haven't have you
seen anything like that.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
No, not quite like this.
I think this is unprecedented,but when's the last time you've
seen such a horrific shootingand a martyrdom of somebody?
It's never.
I like I've been on this planet, just turned 48 and I have
never seen a Christian martyr upclose.
This was televised for theworld to see.
Now it doesn't mean there's notmartyrdom happening around the
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world.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Right.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Right, I'm talking about in America.
In America, ladies andgentlemen, it's right here at
our front doors.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Now, now this was live, right.
Was this broadcast live?
Speaker 1 (31:50):
No, no no, it wasn't Well when I say live.
They brought it out live on CNN, msnbc, every news station,
entertainment Tonight.
They showed live.
But he wasn't on live.
On live, no, when it happened.
No, but thank God for socialmedia because everybody gets a
chance now to see it.
And if you haven't seen, Iactually have the video.
I'm not going to show it,obviously, but I have the video,
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the upfront, personal video ofwhat happened to him during that
time and I want to mention thistoo to what you said.
You know you'd mentioned aboutfear, um, and I don't recommend
watching the video.
I mean it's pretty uh, it'spretty rough, uh, in John 15, he
goes through and he talks abouthow the world would hate him
and he warned the disciples.
But I like something reallygood here.
It says but when the helpercomes, he's talking.
Right after he talks aboutpeople hating him and how they
hated me without cause and allthese things he says.
But when the helper comes, whoI shall send to you from the
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father, the spirit of truth.
Ladies and gentlemen, you can'tbe persuaded with truth.
Until you get the Holy Ghost inyour life, you'll fall every
time, just like Peter.
You'll be cussing, saying Idon't know the man, but man,
when you get the Holy Ghost, mygood God, almighty, everything
changes.
Who proceeds from the Father?
He will testify of me and youwill bear witness because you
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have been with me from thebeginning, and then go to
chapter 16.
These things I have spoken toyou.
That you should not be made tostumble.
They will put you out of thesynagogues.
That you should not be made tostumble, they will put you out
of the synagogues.
I thought that was amazing.
That means they're going tokick you out of church.
That means there's a lot ofreligious folk out there.
Hear me well.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
That's why I said if your pastor ain't preaching the
truth.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
You better run in this season because you're going
to need some real preaching inthis day and hour, real
instruction, and to stand inthis evil day.
I'm not talking aboutcondemning folk.
I'm talking about right isright, wrong is wrong.
If you're wrong, there's roomfor you at the cross.
Come and repent, receive JesusChrist, be cleansed from your
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sins, become a new creature inChrist, develop a new nature and
walk in eternal life.
He says I've written thesethings to you so that you won't
be stumbled.
They're going to put you out ofsynagogues.
The time is coming Now.
Look at this here, babe.
The time is coming that whoeverkills you will think he offers
God a service.
People right now, listen to me.
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This is the hour of deception.
He says here the time is comingthat whoever kills you thinks
he will offer God a service.
And these things they will doto you because they have not
known the father nor me.
But these things I have toldyou that when the time comes,
which is right now, you mayremember that I told you of them
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.
And these things I did not sayto you at the beginning because
I was with you Now.
I'm not going to go into therest of it there, but my point
in saying this is this is whathappened to Charlie Kirk.
This is the biblical kingdomresponse, understanding that,
jesus said hey, they hated me,they're going to hate you.
And if he wouldn't have sharedanything about abortion, if he
wouldn't have shared anythingabout abortion, if he wouldn't
have shared anything aboutmarriage, if he wouldn't have
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shared anything about thosethings, he would not be where he
is today.
But I can see heaven openinghis arms and welcoming him and
saying well done, good andfaithful.
I got at least one out therethat's willing to stand for
righteousness and I believethere's a whole lot more too but
he was willing to pay theultimate price because he
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believed in what he believed in.
My question to you and everypreacher that's out there are
you convicted?
Are you persuaded about whatyou believe in?
If not, this is the time torepent.
It's not the time to retreat.
Come on.
This is not the time to walk infear.
This is not the time toretaliate.
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It's time to retreat.
Come on.
This is not the time to walk infear.
This is not the time toretaliate.
It's time to revert back to.
Some of us have never evenheard a sermon like this.
That's why this weekend, babe,I'm going to be preaching on the
kingdom response for sufferingand persecution.
They're two different things.
Suffering and persecution aretwo different things.
And the reason why we don'tneed and the Lord dropped this
message, he said, jay, thereason why we don't need and the
Lord dropped this message andsaid, jay, the reason why you
don't see Holy Spirit power?
Because he said, he said andyou shall receive power after
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the Holy Ghost has come upon youand you shall be witnesses.
People think that word witnessmeans just go and tell somebody
about your faith.
Yeah, that's part of it.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
That word is martyr.
You shall have power to die foryour faith.
I bet with all of my heartCharlie Kirk never winced.
He never even winced, he wasconvicted.
And I bet if he could be hereright now, come back.
He'd say don't weep for me,Weep for yourselves.
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Not because of any other reason, but simply we need to repent
as a church and we need to learnfrom his example and stand in
our own way, in our own grace,that we stand for the word of
God.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Amen, and I think also too.
You know, things like this cancause tensions to fly and to
flare.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Really, and so I think this is not the time
either to argue.
If you find somebody wanting toargue, step back, let them say
what they want to say, but thenyou can go and pray, and I think
that's really the importantpart.
You know, I think, as we kindof come to a close here.
I think it's very important tostand on the word of God in
Romans 8, 28.
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On the word of God in Romans 8,28.
And I had a piece of revelation.
I shared this with you is youknow, the word of God says and
most of us have heard it is allthings work.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
All things, all things, not just some things,
all things.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
All things work together for good for those who
love God and who are calledaccording to their purpose.
But there are two words beforein the translation that I read.
It says we know that all things.
I think we need to get into aposition where we know.
We know the God that we serve.
We know the God that we servehas never lost a battle.
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He's never lost a battle.
There's a song I can't rememberwho sings it, but there's a
song out there that says thathe's never lost a battle.
We know that God is in control.
We know.
So, as believers in salt andlight on the earth, we need to
walk around like we know.
We know, we know in our spirit.
We know that the God that weserve is the Lord of the
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breakthrough.
We know, babe.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
We know that's right and we're going to take a minute
and we're going to pray justfor a moment.
We want you to join in with usand those of you that are
battling with fear or whateverit is that you might be battling
with, god doesn't want you towalk in.
That that's the spirit ofJezebel, that's Jezebel's voice
being sent out, saying and youknow what's amazing, elijah
never died.
Matter of fact, elijah's exitout of this earth was one of the
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most miraculous.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Right, it was.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Jezebel said he was going to take him out.
She ended up dying.
The Bible says the dogs lickedup her blood and ate her flesh.
I mean, come on.
I mean, that's the woman.
That's what's going to happento that spirit in this day and
hour.
Amen, I'm telling you.
I believe with all of my heart.
The spirit of is going to bebrought down in the name of
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Jesus, but it's not a person.
It's not a person, it's aspirit.
God will never anoint you tokill what he died for, and I
believe that if we will walk inthe power.
That's why you got to get in agood gospel preaching, fire,
filled, tongue talking ministrywhere the glory of God is, where
people are convicted of truthand at least listen, even if
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they ain't talking in tongues.
I believe in tongues and allthat.
At least let them stand fortruth.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Let them stand for truth in Jesus' name.
Let them stand under the truthof God's word.
A man is a man, a woman is awoman.
Marriage is between one man andone woman.
Abortion is anything that isconceived in the womb.
It is a human being.
It is murder.
God knew them from thefoundations of the words that
before you were formed in yourmother's womb.
I knew you and approved of you.
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No matter what you're hearing,you need to stand for the truth.
So we're going to pray that Godwill just fill you with fire,
fill you with faith, fill youwith conviction, and we're going
to pray over the Kirk familyand all of you that may be
battling.
You lift up your heads becauseGod is with us.
God is for the Kirk family.
God's kingdom will move forward.
God is not done with America.
He's not done with you.
You don't have to walk aroundin fear and torment.
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The greater one is on theinside of you.
You are completely invincibleuntil you have done everything
God has called you to do.
The only reason why Charlie Kirkis gone is because he has
finished his course.
He kept the faith and I heardone man my brother told me said
that Pastor Greg Laurie saidthat he was only 31 years old,
but he lived a full life.
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He lived a full life because hedid more in 31 years than some
people do in 3,100 years.
That's just how great of a lifehe lived.
You want to pray, and then I'llpray, and then we'll wrap up.
Would you join with us as wepray right now?
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Yes.
So, lord, god, we just thankyou today for who you are we
thank you for the mighty,matchless name of Jesus, father
God, and in you we haveeverything, father God.
So right now we lift up beforeyou everyone that's on this book
live Father.
I thank you, o God, that in you, father God, we have freedom
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and you we have peace, and youhave joy we know, Lord God, that
your word says that you havenot given us a spirit of fear.
But of power love and a soundmind.
So I thank you, O God, formultiplying that power
multiplying that love andmultiplying the sound mind in
your people today.
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Father, God, Lord, I just pleadthe blood of Jesus over
everyone on this phone calleveryone that's here.
Not a phone call, but Facebook.
Father, I plead the blood ofJesus over their calls, their
purposes their destinies.
I plead the blood of Jesus overtheir minds, their bodies, their
hearts, their emotions, fatherGod, I thank you, o God, that no
weapons formed against themshall prosper.
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Father God, we lift up allthose who have experienced loss
of a loved one.
Father God, your word says thatyou are close to the broken
hearted Father.
God.
So I thank you, Lord God, forinfusing them with your strength
infusing them with your grace.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Father God.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
Even allowing them to tap into a joy even in this dry
place in their lives, fatherGod, so I thank you for your
presence in our life, father God, father, I ask, oh God, so I
thank you for your presence inour life, father God, father, I
ask, oh God, that, even as weare remembering all the work
that Charlie Kirk did, fatherGod, and his stand for you,
father God, I thank you, oh God,that there's going to be people
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and men and women that aregoing to rise up and say God, it
is you, father God.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
Yes, yes, yes, it doesn't matter what man says.
Hallelujah.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
But it's you, Father God, who we're sold out for.
So, Father God, we thank you,oh God.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
For the turning of the tide.
The turning of the tide In thisseason, father God, for the
salt and light being salt andlight in a massive way in this
day and in this hour.
So God, in a massive way inthis day and in this hour.
So, god, we thank you today.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
For who you are.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
And, father, we pray for every person that's battling
with the spirit of fear.
Father, your word says you havenot given us a spirit of fear,
but of power and of love and ofa sound mind.
We pray for every person rightnow, father, that's battling in
their minds, oh God, questioningtheir faith, battling with
whatever questions might berunning around in their mind.
Father, I thank you.
You've made it clear in yourword why these things have.
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You said they that live godlywill suffer persecution.
You said blessed are they thatsuffer persecution.
Father, you've made it clear tous why these things happen.
But, lord, you said in thisworld we would have tribulation.
But be of good cheer, for youhave overcome the world.
So, father, I declare for everyperson that's watching, that
they will walk in, overcomingpower, overwhelming, anointing
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that they will not retreat, theywill not retaliate, but, lord,
they would be revived and revertback to the word and the
kingdom of God.
Father, bless them in themighty name of Jesus.
We pray for Erica Kirk and thetwo babies.
Oh God, we pray for all of hisfamily, his friends and those
that have been affected.
Father, we pray, in the name ofJesus, that you would gird them
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up and bless them.
I pray that the grace ofalmighty God would come upon her
, for you have chosen theirfamily for such a time as this.
Father God, I pray for everypreacher to repent that has
lived compromise.
Oh God, every Christian torepent, father, that has lived
compromise, where we have notdone enough, where we have not
stood up.
Oh God, may this be the day,May this be the turning point,
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may this be the hour where yourpeople rise up and become all
that you have called them to be.
And, father, god, we thank youfor the Lion of the tribe of
Judah that is rising up insideof each and every one of us.
May we be filled with yourglory, with your boldness and
with your conviction, and, lord,baptize every person that is
listening right now.
Lord, may they be filled afreshwith the power of the Holy
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Ghost.
O, god and Lord, I thank youtoday for your conviction, for
your grace and for your goodness.
O, god, bless all things,father, and may there be an
awakening and a revival, but,lord, may it start in the house
of God and Father, we thank yougiving you the praise, the honor
and all of the glory.
In Jesus' name, we pray Amen,amen, amen, amen.
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Well, ladies and gentlemen, wethank you so much for tuning in
today.
We hope that you are blessed.
Don't forget tomorrow, 1 pm, Iwill be on Cornerstone
Television doing a livebroadcast talking more about
what's happening right now.
Tomorrow night, 8.30 pm, we'llbe right back here talking more
about what's happening right now.
Tomorrow night, 8.30 pm, we'llbe right back here talking more.
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As things unfold, as God givesus things, we're gonna be
sharing it with you.
Don't forget to download ourpodcast.
Go to the podcast platform, getthat as well, because, listen,
there's a whole lot more wherethis came from and we're so
excited for what God is doing inDimension.
So until next time.
I'm Pastor Jay.
This is my lovely, wonderfulwife.
Pastor Tim, we're so glad youtook time out of your busy
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schedule to come and hang outwith us, and we'll see you next
time right here at your NextDimension.
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