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Jay Anthony Gilbert examines accusations of racism against Charlie Kirk through personal research and his own mixed-race perspective, revealing how Kirk's platform for Black voices contradicts racist characterizations.
• Defining true racism as prejudice against people based solely on their racial identity
• Sharing personal experiences with racism and discrimination as a mixed-race individual
• Analyzing Charlie Kirk's relationship with Black pastor John Amanchukwu
• Questioning DEI initiatives as effective solutions to racism
• Advocating for Martin Luther King Jr.'s vision of character-based judgment
• Explaining why the gospel of Jesus Christ represents the only true solution to racism
• Encouraging viewers to research beyond media narratives
• Criticizing the celebration of death regardless of political disagreements
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
All right, y'all.
Well, here it is.
You know I've been hearing alot in the news, in the media
about Charlie Kirk being aracist, so I took it upon myself
to do a little bit of research,which I tell everybody to do
anyways.
And my friend, pastor JohnAmanchukwu I saw him post some
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things and this is a black man,a strong black man, pro black
man.
I mean he loves white peopletoo, but I'm saying he's all
about black empowerment and, uh,he comes from a black
Pentecostal church, a church ofGod in Christ.
Everything about him says thathe's a black man, and a strong
black man, a big black man.
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You've ever seen him?
I just had him recently here inPittsburgh and he spoke at our
gala and I want you to see alittle bit more of this, because
a lot of people say a lot ofthings about being racist, but
we want to talk about that.
Was Charlie Kirk racist?
All that and more coming uphere on Dimensions.
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(01:27):
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Now, ladies and gentlemen, Ineed you to understand something
.
I am a black man, but I ammixed, so I'm white and black.
So, listen, you can't call me aracist because my mother was
white, my dad was black and I'meverything in between.
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I always have this little jokeyou know, when I was growing up,
I wasn't black enough to be atrue brother, because I grew up
like in the mid 80s, early 90sthat's kind of my era and and I
wasn't white enough to hang withthe white people.
I have experienced racism.
I have been in a place where Iwas discriminated against.
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My family has beendiscriminated against.
I've had family members calledthe N word.
I've had all those things.
I know what racism looks likeand I'm not one that's shying
away from it.
I have nothing to gain, but Iwant to find out.
If somebody is racist, I'm goingto call it out and call it what
it is, and I have had theopportunity to meet and know
people that are racist.
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I have dated people in my pastwhose parents were racist.
I have had friends that like me, but their parents didn't like
black people were racist.
I have had friends that like me, but their parents didn't like
black people.
I know what it's like.
I have been in situations whereI've heard people calling us
the N-word in public.
I have been in those scenarios.
Trust me, I know about racism,I know about discrimination, I
understand all of those things,but I also know what it's like
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to see somebody that is speakingtruth but yet and still is not
a racist.
And I want to do something realquickly because a lot of people
say, well, they're a racist orthey're a white supremacist.
I want to bring up here thefirst definition of racist.
I want you to take a look atthis here, just so everybody
kind of understands what aracist is.
What exactly is a racist?
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A racist is a person who isprejudiced against or
antagonistic towards people onthe basis of their membership in
a particular racial or ethnicgroup, typically one that is a
minority or marginalized.
So a person that is prejudicedagainst, antagonistic towards
people on the basis of theirmembership in a particular
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racial or ethnic group.
Now listen, dr Martin LutherKing says something very
powerful, and this is the reasonwhy I'm not a fan of DEI.
A lot of people may say are youa fan of DEI?
I'm all about black peoplegetting jobs.
I'm all about black peoplegetting their fair share.
I'm all about black peoplegetting whatever it is that they
need to get.
I'm all about.
I don't want to bediscriminated against either.
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I want to be able to, if I'mthe best man for the job, give
me the job.
It has nothing to do with color.
I believe that DEI kind ofreversed racism and that's
basically what it does.
It brings it back to where nowand don't get me wrong I'm
saying I believe that blackpeople should have jobs.
I believe that there are a lotof jobs where black people need
to have.
I think I look at professionalsports and I think there needs
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to be more black owners.
I believe there needs to bemore black head coaches.
I believe that I see that, butyet and still, dei is a
dangerous thing, because one ofthe things you have to remember
is you can never legislateracism.
Racism is a matter of the heart, people will find a way around
it, and then it just creates allsorts of craziness and things
along that line.
So that's the reason why I'mnot a big fan of that.
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But I am a fan of people blackindividuals, african Americans,
hispanics, chinese, asian itdoesn't matter where you are.
I believe in equality for all.
I believe that with all of myheart.
But I don't believe you canlegislate race.
You just can't do it.
There's no way, because theneventually you have to show
favor to other people.
When does that come to an end?
When do we get back to wherethings are merit-based?
And so I'm a big fan of peopleearning it and then you have to
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deal with things on acase-by-case scenario.
It's just that simple.
And the reason why I'm sayingthis is because I come from both
sides.
I have a white mother.
I had a white mother.
She passed away God bless herand my father is still alive.
He's a black man and is racismout there, without a doubt, but
I do believe this Will youencounter racism sometimes?
Of course it's still out there.
But let me tell you this youcan make it.
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You may have to deal with somethings.
You may have to jump somehurdles, you have to deal with
some folks, but there's noreason why in America, you can't
eventually become a success.
You will be able to get there.
You may have to fight somethings, you may have to deal
with some things, but I do notbelieve you can legislate race
issues, because this is thereality.
I believe the only thing thatcan help racism is the gospel of
Jesus Christ.
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There has to be a conversion ofthe heart.
Racism is simply a matter ofthe heart.
It's simply judging people anddoing for people based upon skin
tone Nothing to do withmarriage.
What did Dr Martin Luther Kingsaid?
He said something very profoundthat we have to remember, and
this works for everybody.
The problem was, at that time,it was only African Americans
that were battling.
White people didn't have thisissue.
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They didn't have this issue.
They have never had this issue,and so the reality is he said
that men would be judged by thecolor of their skin.
Not by the color of their skin,not by the color of their skin,
but by the content of theircharacter.
That men would not be judged bythe color of their skin, but by
the content of their character.
I believe in every area, whetherit's dealing with a job,
whether it's dealing with sports, whether it's dealing with any
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area, even dealing with women.
It should have nothing to dowith sex.
It should have nothing to dowith color.
It has to do with the content.
Content is the key, the contentof their character, the content
of who they are as anindividual.
You know, the reality is thereare white people that are racist
, there are black people thatare racist.
I mean it goes both spans ofthe aisle.
I mean they're both ways.
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So the reality is, what do wedo with all of this?
We have to get back to thecross, we have to get back to
the blood.
The Bible says that JesusChrist made everybody one Jew
and Greek, gentile or Jew andGreek, those that were bond,
those that were free.
Christ is one and made, all inall, made one new man.
So we need to know people bythe content of their character.
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Now people say to me yeah, butthere are people out there that
are racist.
Of course there are.
Of course there are.
But that doesn't mean thatracism can't be dealt with
nowadays, and it's not thereason why I don't believe
that's the primary reason whypeople can't succeed in this day
and hour.
You had a black man that was inthe most powerful office in the
world, or President BarackObama, you had a black woman in
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the second most powerful officeof the world.
Ladies and gentlemen, if racismwas going to stop anybody,
there's no way that those peoplecould have taken those offices.
Is there racism?
I'm going to say that over andover.
Of course there is, but you canstill make it.
Black people can still make it.
May there be some extra hurdles?
There might be, but you knowwhat?
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If Jackie Robinson could defeatit, if Dr Martin Luther King
could march, if, wherever it isthat you are, that you've dealt
with it, if they all stillcontinue to struggle and press
forward, then we can still dothat as well, and we have to
continue to keep pressing on.
So I wanted to mention thosetwo things, though Bring up the
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definition for racism again,because I want you to see this A
person who is prejudicedagainst or antagonistic toward
people on the basis of theirmembership in a particular race.
So, basically, a racist is aperson that doesn't matter what
their content is.
I don't like you because you'reblack.
I don't like you because you'reHispanic.
I don't.
I don't like you because youare a woman.
Now, that's not a race, butit's based upon the class of the
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people, whether they're color,they're racial, ethnicity,
whatever it is.
So, as a result, it doesn'tmatter.
I'm not going to see beyondthat, I'm only going to see that
.
And then you take a look atwhite supremacy.
He's been called a whitesupremacist, so let's take a
look at that definition as well.
What's a white supremacist?
The belief that white peopleconstitute a superior race and
should therefore dominatesociety, typically to the
exclusion or detriment of otherracial and ethnic groups, so
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believing that white people arebetter than everyone else and
black people, hispanics, anyoneelse is lower than them.
I have looked at Charlie Kirk.
I have watched his videos, Ihave seen his things.
Is he critical of people thatare not there?
Is he straightforward?
Without a doubt, but not basedupon color, based upon his
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looking at who they are.
He is what you would call arealist.
He's somebody that's going totell you exactly what he sees,
and he doesn't.
It doesn't matter what coloryou are, it doesn't.
He gets on white people, hegets on black people, he gets
wherever the issue is.
He gets on them and says thisis the answer and the solution,
and he doesn't mince words.
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So a lot of times people think,well, he doesn't like women, he
doesn't like this, he doesn'tlike that, he's a racist, white
supremacist.
Look at the definition and seehow he's doing that and the
reason why I'm saying that.
He brings a man who I knowpersonally, named Pastor John
Amanchukwu and I'm pulling thisfrom, actually, pastor John's
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YouTube page.
So those of you that knowPastor John, you need to go
check him out.
Phenomenal man of God.
I know him personally.
He is outstanding and he he hasknown Charlie Kirk personally.
Matter of fact, he accreditsCharlie Kirk to his success.
He will say on his YouTube pageyou can watch something.
I'm going to show you a coupleof clips here in just a minute.
Gave him his platform, endorseda book called Hoodwinked, and
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he reads the foreword that,charlie, you do not do all of
that.
If you are a racist and a whitesupremacist, you are not going
to help black people.
You are not going to provide aplatform.
You are not going to bring ablack man on and thank him and
tell him how great of a job he'sdoing and who he is and say
this is a man that's doing greatthings.
A racist and a whitesupremacist doesn't bring black
people.
A man from Africa his family,his father, moved here in the
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1970s, I believe it was.
He is a Nigerian, he is hisname.
He said he's from the Igbo, Ibelieve it's called, and
Amanchukwu means I know God.
I mean he knows all about, andthis is a big man.
I'm going to show you someclips here in a minute.
And if he is saying to us andknows him personally and worked
with him at TPUSA, I think it'ssomething that we can give
credence to.
It's something that we can lookat.
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Did Charlie Kirk challengethings?
In my opinion, was Charlie Kirksometimes.
I mean he was.
I call myself a pretty hardpreacher, but he was straight
out the gut.
He told you exactly how it wasand I don't have any problem
with that.
But I understand we're nothaving that type of filter.
It can come across a certainway, but I believe at the core,
looking at these definitions andunderstanding it and being a
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man that has been discriminatedagainst, being a man that has
dealt with racism, being inthose situations, have dealt
with cops and things like thatYou're not looking at somebody
that hasn't dealt with thesethings.
Even growing up as a child, Ihave dealt with those things.
I can tell you situations aboutmy brothers and I and things
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that we went through.
I know what racism looks like.
Trust me, I know it very, verywell, Even though I might be
mixed, it doesn't matter.
They look at you.
They still see black.
I've had people come up to meand they'd say things back in
the day they was hoping that Iwas Italian, uh, because they
didn't want me to be black, andthere was, oh, he's Italian,
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right, you know, because theydidn't want me to be black, they
don't want any blackness in me.
I remember dating people and,uh, if I dated them and they
would want to know that, andbecause they didn't want me to
be black, and then they wouldtell me my dad doesn't like
black people.
I have seen it.
I know what that looks like,even if it's covert.
I have seen it.
And so I'm saying to you in allof this to look at things and
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go and do your own research.
If you still feel he is, thenthat's totally up to you.
But I wanted to show you somethings here.
I want to show you a couple ofclips here that I want you to
take a peek at.
So let's take a look at thefirst one here and let's just
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hear a little bit of what PastorJohn says and how Charlie
provides a platform for him.
Let's play the first one.
We got it here.
We have technical difficulties.
Can you press play on that?
(14:50):
Well, I'm going to keep alookout that they can bring it
up, because I think it's veryimportant, though Hopefully this
clip will come up for us.
Are we good to go there?
We go, all right.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Some kind of trouble right and it's such a great
honor.
Our guest tonight.
Master's degree from LibertyUniversity in Christian ministry
.
He played football.
You'll tell as soon as he getsup on stage.
He's been a pastor for 15 years.
He's unafraid to talk about howthe left talks a good game on
black lives that has nothingabout it.
He's unafraid to talk aboutGod's truth for us, what we
could do about it.
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It's such an amazing honor tobe able to have him tonight as
we get back into gear here atFreedom Night in America.
Please join me in welcomingPastor John Amanchukwu.
And I think I said that right,did I do good?
Give it up.
(15:47):
You okay, oh no, give it up.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Oh no, we don't want any ads get us out of there.
I am sorry about that thank youeverybody.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
so we're going to play back and forth with the mic
now.
So, pastor John, it's actuallyright here.
Thank you guys so much.
Pastor John, welcome to Phoenix.
Thank you for having me.
You came here in the coolseason, so now I know why you're
all here tonight.
Air conditioning, I get itright.
It's the only reason why youwould be here tonight.
Pastor John, tell us aboutyourself.
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Tell us about your walk withthe Lord and the work you do.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Yeah, so my name is John Amanchukwa and I'm blessed
to have my wife with me heretoday.
Come on, Crystal, to stand up.
I'm a man married to a womanand I celebrate that Amen.
We have three wonderfulchildren 12, 11, and 5.
We've been married going on now15 years.
Another big hand clap goesthere, and so I'm just a country
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preacher from Raleigh, NorthCarolina, that believes in God's
truth and I'm not afraid tostand up for biblical truth and
biblical authority.
I'm a pastor who's a truewatchman and not a wimp, and I'm
not afraid to speak truth topower and to push back against
the God awful ideologies thathave been pushed down our
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children's throats but also uponthe black community.
You know I want to saysomething tonight and I want you
to hear me clearly.
So, Paul, it's right there,Brad.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Other than that listen, this is a white
supremacist and a racist.
That allows him to come on andsays especially the ideology
that has been pushed into theblack community.
Now, if you listen to the restof this interview, you'll hear
him go into abortion and talkabout how abortions were
affecting black people and howblack people need to stand up.
And now a white supremacist anda racist is not going to allow
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a black man to come on andpromote that and preach that to
all the people that were in hisaudience during those things.
I want to take a minute now.
I want you to go to the nextclip, mr Producer, and get that
ready, brad, and bring that upin just a moment.
But you know, that's the firstclip.
I've got a couple other clips Iwant to show you here.
And this is the thing Sometimes, what people will do is people
just throw things out there andpeople don't do their research.
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They don't look to see what'sreally happening, what's going
on, and that's why, ladies andgentlemen, it's so important
that, whether it's dealing withmedia or things on YouTube,
facebook, you've got to do yourown research.
You know, and that's why I wantto take a minute here, because
you know, if he is a racist.
Let's call it what it is.
But it's another thing, though,to listen to these things and
watch these things and then todetermine is this person really
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racist or not.
So that's why I wanted to takea look at this, so we're going
to bring up the next clip hereand take a peek at that.
Whenever you're ready, brad, goahead and play it.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
The Bible says allow your money to perish with you.
So if you want to pull yourmoney out of a local church
because the pastor is preaching,goodbye and let your money
perish with you.
But you should expect yourpreacher to speak to these
issues and it's easy as one, two, three, just preach the Bible.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Amen.
So let's talk about the blackcommunity.
This is something that I thinkreally is confusing to a lot of
people.
The black community is actuallymore socially conservative,
correct In a lot of differentways than white liberals,
especially in California or NewYork.
Why is it that, the blackcommunity, being more socially
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conservative, not on board forthis transgender stuff?
They Polls show that theyactually the least approving of
it.
Why is it then that Blackpastors or Black leaders then
tend to tilt with the politicalleft?
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Yeah, and you know, charlie, if I knew the true
answer to that question, I mightbe a rich man.
Okay, all right, but I'm gladyou asked a Black pastor we can
explore it together.
But here's the reality.
Consider Reverend Jesse Jackson, who coined the term Black
Genocide, who once preachedagainst abortion, but when it
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was time for him to run foroffice, he sold his community
down a river and would not touchthe issue anymore.
Consider Barack Hussein Obama,the first Black president who
had a chance to right somewrongs and do some true work.
What did he do?
The majority of his supportwent towards two groups Planned
Parenthood and the LGBTcommunity.
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We have blown so manyopportunities.
The issue is this Many in mycommunity happen to be low
information voters and they'regetting their information from
the wrong people.
You should expect to go tochurch and to hear the truth
about these issues, but thepastors are woke and the pastors
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are preaching woke sermons.
So therefore you have a wokepew.
Right.
If the pulpit is woke, then theparishioners are going to be
woke, but many blacks they don'tespouse these things, but they
oftentimes vote one way and prayanother.
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But guess what?
There's good news?
There is a remnant.
There are a group of blacks inthis country who believe in
black excellence, who believe inthe two parent, family home,
both sexes.
There is a group of minoritiesin this country who are rising
up, who supported Donald Trumpoverwhelmingly Right.
You saw something change there.
I believe that there is aremnant coming and all we need
to do is continue to sound thealarm.
Keep the message out therebefore the masses.
Create opportunities for Blackvoices to speak nationally and
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we will turn this nation in theright direction in the Black
community.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Okay, stop up there.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
This is such an important point, so think about
it.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
You're talking about a black, a white supremacist and
a racist clapping his hands,putting his hand on there,
saying amen to a man that'ssaying preaching black
excellence, pleading, preachingblack pastors rising up,
preaching.
How many white supremacists doyou know that do that?
How many racist do you knowthat are going to say he's
preaching about black people?
That?
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I'm a black man here.
I believe in the black family,I believe in a two parent home,
I believe in black excellence.
I mean he's preaching all black, black, black, black, and then
the end of it Charlie Kirk is.
I mean, how is that a whitesupremacist or racist?
So that's what things I wantyou to look at.
(22:25):
Now there's one more clip Iwant to show you.
Here there are some young girlsthat come on and how, because
they were linked up with TPUSA,are dealing with racism.
Now, mind you, pastor JohnAmanchukwa, you hear him talking
about all of these things thathe's standing up for, how he's
walking, standing up for Blackpeople.
He's mentioned it several times.
That's why he brought him onthere was to help black
Americans and let a black voicebe on.
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He's saying we're looking formore people to raise up black
voices, to speak truth to power.
A white supremacist and aracist is not going to do that,
because, even if they don't likeDonald Trump, even if they
don't like him, they're notgoing to let a black person
speak to a white man.
It's not going to happenbecause there are white
supremacists and racists and sotherefore, there are a lower
class of people.
So just something to thinkabout.
Now, brad, let's cue this lastone here and let's talk about
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this as well.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
But I do not think we should in any way, shape or
form retreat from trying to careabout our public schools.
There are fellow citizens andour fellow countrymen that need
us.
You might be able to get yourkids out, but those are future
voters, those are future leaders, and we still need to be able
to influence them.
God bless you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Hi, I'm Braylon.
I'm the president of theTurning Point USA chapter at
Liberty High School Awesome.
I am Danielle.
I'm the vice president, andlast school year we ran into a
lot of issues not being able tohave meetings due to people
thinking that our club wasracist and that we had a lot of
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racist point of views and it raninto us not being able to have
any meetings at all the wholeschool year and our teacher rep
was so scared that he wouldn'tlet us have any meetings at all
and we did donuts, Red Bull,like stuff, fun to bring people
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in and he was against thatbecause he didn't want to bring
too many people in that weren'tthere for the right reasons.
So we just want to know.
We would love to continue itnext school year, but we have a
lot of issues with not havingmeetings so we want to know how
we can avoid that.
What school again Liberty HighSchool In Peoria can avoid that?
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What?
Speaker 3 (24:39):
school again Liberty High School In Peoria.
Is that a public school?
It's a public school, okay.
So, john, can you help withthis, though?
This is important for theseyoung ladies, by the way.
Give it up for them running aTurning Point USA chapter.
How great is that?
This is something that maybeyou're just going to tell us to
get over it or snap out of it.
But this is an important point,though, which is a lot of young
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conservatives, or conservativesall ages.
They kind of get in a place ofparalysis as soon as they're
called a racist, regardless ofthe lack of accusation.
And so many times people sayCharlie Turning Point's racist.
Why, I don't know.
I read it online.
It's like oh so you're going tocall me the worst thing you
could call somebody with zeroevidence supporting it.
What's your advice to youngpeople, or all people?
How do you deal with that whensomeone calls you the R word?
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Yeah Well, I've never been called racist myself and
I'm not racist Right, and Idon't tolerate racist talk
around.
You know it all starts there.
Racism, by and large, issomething that is taught, right?
If you live in a home whereparents are pushing those
ideologies, it's going to creepinto the hearts and the minds of
the children.
But if you are out there tryingto do a noble work for a noble
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cause, let those labels roll offof you like water down a duck's
back right.
Don't allow those things toparalyze you or cripple you from
the work that you're doing.
The left, those who are woke,are always going to label you.
Right, so you have to becomeaccustomed with being labeled.
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Okay, but continue the workthat you are doing, because they
want to throw you off and ifthey can stop you with the R
word then you won't go forward.
Keep fighting, keep standingand know why you're doing what
you're doing and continue tolove everyone.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
And let me add one more thing, which is kind of
what do I do?
You got to be relentless, right, and so life is a series of
questions you ask yourself,right?
So you can ask yourself thequestion why is this so hard?
You know why me, or you couldsay what is great about this
problem?
What am I going to learn fromthis?
How am I going to enjoy theprocess?
What am I willing to do?
These are questions you can askyourself about that.
(26:58):
Say so, what would possibly begreat about a problem of being
called a racist and a teachernot wanting to associate with
you?
Well, you got to be morecreative, right?
You could put the teachers ondefense and say will anybody
possibly associate with our club?
Now here's the other thing,though You're in high school 17,
18, 16, 17, 18, right, you'regoing to be tougher and stronger
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and a better leader in life,because you have to deal with
the nonsense of beingstereotyped and called names
where all of your peers geteverything easy.
You are now being put in asituation that will make you a
tougher leader for the rest ofyour life.
That's what's awesome aboutthat kind of a problem, right,
and so no easy way but parentsin the local area are going to
help you right.
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See those hands right therethen, ready to help.
That's what the beauty ofFreedom Night in America.
And finally, you have thebacking of the largest
conservative organization inAmerica, turning Point USA.
We're not going to let them win.
We're going to make sure thatyou guys are able to get the
club, get the approval, and notbe called those terrible names.
God bless you.
We love our high schoolchapters.
We love it.
Thanks for being here.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
All right, that's good.
Thanks so much.
So, ladies and gentlemen,obviously I know some people
aren't going to agree with whatwe're doing here, but I've been
a preacher for 30 years and I'vedealt with all sorts of people
that feel certain ways andcertain things, but that's why I
need to have a voice here andto stand up for what I believe
in being a black man, I canspeak to racism.
Like I said, I've encounteredit.
I've experienced it and whatI'm seeing there is not racist.
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Now, I understand he said a lotof controversial things and a
lot of people have differentthings with DEI and a lot of
stuff like that.
I've already shared with yousome of my stances concerning it
.
I am all for black empowerment,black people getting
opportunities, women gettingopportunities, all of those
types of things.
I think that's very, veryimportant, but I don't believe
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that should be the number one.
Qualification is your skin color, and when you do that, it
raises question as to whysomebody is in that position.
Are they in there becausethey're qualified or they're in
there because they're their skincolor?
And I understand a lot ofpeople say, yeah, but how do you
deal with that?
Because that's the reality,though, because now, people
won't get opportunities.
And I see one person put acomment in there they wouldn't
have had an opportunity if therewouldn't have been DEI.
Well, we're still dealing withracism because, no matter how
you look at it, the racism isn'tgoing to go away just because
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you give somebody a job.
And that's why I'm saying DEIwill never solve that.
It may give people anopportunity, but it's never
going to solve it.
And then what happens ifsomebody does get hired because
of only their skin tone?
And then what happens now?
Now you have Asians to say Ishould be able to get in,
hispanics need to get in.
It never ends.
What has to happen is you haveto deal with every circumstance
as it comes.
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It's just that simple.
You got to deal with it as itcomes and, like I said, if
you've ever dealt with racism,you got to take it.
You know you've got laws inthere, but that's not going to
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stop the sin, it's not going tostop the murder.
It's not going to stop that.
The only thing that can changeit is getting the gospel of
Jesus Christ into the heart ofpeople.
And even if you feel thatCharlie Kirk was a racist, the
only thing that could saveanybody that's a racist is
getting the gospel into thembecause there's so much hatred
in their heart towards aspecific race, or towards a
specific people, or towardswomen, or whatever.
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It is the only thing that canchange them.
You can put all the laws youwant in place, but the reality
is it's never going to changeuntil the gospel gets into the
hearts of people.
Racism we're always going tohave with us.
The poor we're always going tohave with us, even the Jewish
people that are beingdiscriminated against right now.
That is something that you'realways going to have because
there's always going to be sinin the world.
So, unfortunately, it's going tobe there and people say, well,
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what's the answer?
You can't legislate it.
You can legislate all you want.
People are still going to dowhat they're going to do, but
the only thing we can do is,hopefully, a prayer that God
will get the gospel into thehearts of people, and that's why
people that are celebrating hisdeath rejoicing over his death.
It's really sad to see that,because the reality is is what
we need to have is be a peoplethat have compassion in our
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hearts.
I don't care.
I've had people that wereracist that died, but I'm not
rejoicing and throwing a partybecause they're dead.
You know what I mean.
And the children?
What about their children evenhaving a heart for their kids,
having a heart for his wife,having a heart for the people
that are affected by that?
People just don't even thinkabout that.
And so that's where I think themayor or the governor of Utah
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he talked about how he said yougot to go find that angel within
you and ask God to resurrectthat thing within you, resurrect
a good heart within you.
So it's very, very important,ladies and gentlemen, that we
don't celebrate that death.
I've been spending this wholeweek talking about it and, like
I said, I figured I'm going togive my spiel on it because, as
a black man that's encounteredracism, I totally understand
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what that looks like and I knowsome people may or may not agree
, but that's what makes Americagreat.
Right, we all have theopportunity to be able to share
what's in our hearts, and Iwanted to show you some things
here that white supremacists andracist people they are not
going to do.
They're not gonna bring blackmen on there, celebrate them,
give them a platform, all ofthose types of things.
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Stand up for abortion and, ifyou understand where abortion
comes from, margaret Sanger.
It's intended for Black people.
If you are a white supremacistand racist, you want abortion
Name and I would challengeanybody to name an abortion
facility in white neighborhoods.
Find a white suburbanneighborhood and then tell me
where there's an abortion clinicthere.
They're always planted nearblack neighborhoods.
The purpose of PlannedParenthood, the purpose of
abortionists, the purpose, is todestroy and annihilate the
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white or the black race.
Go back and do your research,study, margaret Sanger, and if
you have a white man that'strying to abolish abortion, they
are going to have a revelationand understand it is meant to
destroy black people and toencourage black people to not
abort their babies, to befathers, to be mothers and to
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stand for life.
So I hope that you all havebeen blessed today by this and
I'm going to be back tomorrowtalking a little bit more to
wrap up the week and share withyou a little bit more of what
God has been putting into myheart.
So be encouraged, know that Ilove you, praying for you.
Don't forget to like, subscribe,follow and share.
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Don't forget as well, ladiesand gentlemen, to download the
podcast.
Get it why it's hot.
We'll be uploading this rightafterwards as well.
Check it out, do your ownresearch, go, look at some
videos and I encourage you.
If you've got a video you wantme to speak to, dm me, drop it
in my inbox.
Let me see where the racistcomments were and let me take a
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peek.
And if there's something I needto take a look at, I definitely
will.
But you're not going to find it.
That's not a racist man.
It was a man that was a realist, standing up for righteousness,
preaching the gospel in a veryblunt and real way.
So God bless you and I'll seeyou next time right here on
Dimensions.
All right, y'all.
Well, here it is.
You know I've been hearing alot in the news, in the media
about Charlie Kirk being aracist, so I took it upon myself
to do a little bit of research,which I tell everybody to do
anyways.
And my friend, pastor JohnAmanchukwu I saw him post some
(00:26):
things and this is a black man,a strong black man, pro black
man.
I mean he loves white peopletoo, but I'm saying he's all
about black empowerment and, uh,he comes from a black
Pentecostal church, a church ofGod in Christ.
Everything about him says thathe's a black man, and a strong
black man, a big black man.
(00:46):
You've ever seen him?
I just had him recently here inPittsburgh and he spoke at our
gala and I want you to see alittle bit more of this, because
a lot of people say a lot ofthings about being racist, but
we want to talk about that.
Was Charlie Kirk racist?
All that and more coming uphere on Dimensions.
What's going on?
(01:27):
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Now, ladies and gentlemen, Ineed you to understand something
.
I am a black man, but I ammixed, so I'm white and black.
So, listen, you can't call me aracist because my mother was
white, my dad was black and I'meverything in between.
(03:15):
I always have this little jokeyou know, when I was growing up,
I wasn't black enough to be atrue brother, because I grew up
like in the mid 80s, early 90sthat's kind of my era and and I
wasn't white enough to hang withthe white people.
I have experienced racism.
I have been in a place where Iwas discriminated against.
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My family has beendiscriminated against.
I've had family members calledthe N word.
I've had all those things.
I know what racism looks likeand I'm not one that's shying
away from it.
I have nothing to gain, but Iwant to find out.
If somebody is racist, I'm goingto call it out and call it what
it is, and I have had theopportunity to meet and know
people that are racist.
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I have dated people in my pastwhose parents were racist.
I have had friends that like me, but their parents didn't like
black people were racist.
I have had friends that like me, but their parents didn't like
black people.
I know what it's like.
I have been in situations whereI've heard people calling us
the N-word in public.
I have been in those scenarios.
Trust me, I know about racism,I know about discrimination, I
understand all of those things,but I also know what it's like
(04:20):
to see somebody that is speakingtruth but yet and still is not
a racist.
And I want to do something realquickly because a lot of people
say, well, they're a racist orthey're a white supremacist.
I want to bring up here thefirst definition of racist.
I want you to take a look atthis here, just so everybody
kind of understands what aracist is.
What exactly is a racist?
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A racist is a person who isprejudiced against or
antagonistic towards people onthe basis of their membership in
a particular racial or ethnicgroup, typically one that is a
minority or marginalized.
So a person that is prejudicedagainst, antagonistic towards
people on the basis of theirmembership in a particular
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racial or ethnic group.
Now listen, dr Martin LutherKing says something very
powerful, and this is the reasonwhy I'm not a fan of DEI.
A lot of people may say are youa fan of DEI?
I'm all about black peoplegetting jobs.
I'm all about black peoplegetting their fair share.
I'm all about black peoplegetting whatever it is that they
need to get.
I'm all about.
I don't want to bediscriminated against either.
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I want to be able to, if I'mthe best man for the job, give
me the job.
It has nothing to do with color.
I believe that DEI kind ofreversed racism and that's
basically what it does.
It brings it back to where nowand don't get me wrong I'm
saying I believe that blackpeople should have jobs.
I believe that there are a lotof jobs where black people need
to have.
I think I look at professionalsports and I think there needs
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to be more black owners.
I believe there needs to bemore black head coaches.
I believe that I see that, butyet and still, dei is a
dangerous thing, because one ofthe things you have to remember
is you can never legislateracism.
Racism is a matter of the heart, people will find a way around
it, and then it just creates allsorts of craziness and things
along that line.
So that's the reason why I'mnot a big fan of that.
(06:11):
But I am a fan of people blackindividuals, african Americans,
hispanics, chinese, asian itdoesn't matter where you are.
I believe in equality for all.
I believe that with all of myheart.
But I don't believe you canlegislate race.
You just can't do it.
There's no way, because theneventually you have to show
favor to other people.
When does that come to an end?
When do we get back to wherethings are merit-based?
And so I'm a big fan of peopleearning it and then you have to
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deal with things on acase-by-case scenario.
It's just that simple.
And the reason why I'm sayingthis is because I come from both
sides.
I have a white mother.
I had a white mother.
She passed away God bless herand my father is still alive.
He's a black man and is racismout there, without a doubt, but
I do believe this Will youencounter racism sometimes?
Of course it's still out there.
But let me tell you this youcan make it.
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You may have to deal with somethings.
You may have to jump somehurdles, you have to deal with
some folks, but there's noreason why in America, you can't
eventually become a success.
You will be able to get there.
You may have to fight somethings, you may have to deal
with some things, but I do notbelieve you can legislate race
issues, because this is thereality.
I believe the only thing thatcan help racism is the gospel of
Jesus Christ.
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There has to be a conversion ofthe heart.
Racism is simply a matter ofthe heart.
It's simply judging people anddoing for people based upon skin
tone Nothing to do withmarriage.
What did Dr Martin Luther Kingsaid?
He said something very profoundthat we have to remember, and
this works for everybody.
The problem was, at that time,it was only African Americans
that were battling.
White people didn't have thisissue.
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They didn't have this issue.
They have never had this issue,and so the reality is he said
that men would be judged by thecolor of their skin.
Not by the color of their skin,not by the color of their skin,
but by the content of theircharacter.
That men would not be judged bythe color of their skin, but by
the content of their character.
I believe in every area, whetherit's dealing with a job,
whether it's dealing with sports, whether it's dealing with any
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area, even dealing with women.
It should have nothing to dowith sex.
It should have nothing to dowith color.
It has to do with the content.
Content is the key, the contentof their character, the content
of who they are as anindividual.
You know, the reality is thereare white people that are racist
, there are black people thatare racist.
I mean it goes both spans ofthe aisle.
I mean they're both ways.
(08:19):
So the reality is, what do wedo with all of this?
We have to get back to thecross, we have to get back to
the blood.
The Bible says that JesusChrist made everybody one Jew
and Greek, gentile or Jew andGreek, those that were bond,
those that were free.
Christ is one and made, all inall, made one new man.
So we need to know people bythe content of their character.
(08:41):
Now people say to me yeah, butthere are people out there that
are racist.
Of course there are.
Of course there are.
But that doesn't mean thatracism can't be dealt with
nowadays, and it's not thereason why I don't believe
that's the primary reason whypeople can't succeed in this day
and hour.
You had a black man that was inthe most powerful office in the
world, or President BarackObama, you had a black woman in
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the second most powerful officeof the world.
Ladies and gentlemen, if racismwas going to stop anybody,
there's no way that those peoplecould have taken those offices.
Is there racism?
I'm going to say that over andover.
Of course there is, but you canstill make it.
Black people can still make it.
May there be some extra hurdles?
There might be, but you knowwhat?
(09:26):
If Jackie Robinson could defeatit, if Dr Martin Luther King
could march, if, wherever it isthat you are, that you've dealt
with it, if they all stillcontinue to struggle and press
forward, then we can still dothat as well, and we have to
continue to keep pressing on.
So I wanted to mention thosetwo things, though Bring up the
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definition for racism again,because I want you to see this A
person who is prejudicedagainst or antagonistic toward
people on the basis of theirmembership in a particular race.
So, basically, a racist is aperson that doesn't matter what
their content is.
I don't like you because you'reblack.
I don't like you because you'reHispanic.
I don't.
I don't like you because youare a woman.
Now, that's not a race, butit's based upon the class of the
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people, whether they're color,they're racial, ethnicity,
whatever it is.
So, as a result, it doesn'tmatter.
I'm not going to see beyondthat, I'm only going to see that
.
And then you take a look atwhite supremacy.
He's been called a whitesupremacist, so let's take a
look at that definition as well.
What's a white supremacist?
The belief that white peopleconstitute a superior race and
should therefore dominatesociety, typically to the
exclusion or detriment of otherracial and ethnic groups, so
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believing that white people arebetter than everyone else and
black people, hispanics, anyoneelse is lower than them.
I have looked at Charlie Kirk.
I have watched his videos, Ihave seen his things.
Is he critical of people thatare not there?
Is he straightforward?
Without a doubt, but not basedupon color, based upon his
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looking at who they are.
He is what you would call arealist.
He's somebody that's going totell you exactly what he sees,
and he doesn't.
It doesn't matter what coloryou are, it doesn't.
He gets on white people, hegets on black people, he gets
wherever the issue is.
He gets on them and says thisis the answer and the solution,
and he doesn't mince words.
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So a lot of times people think,well, he doesn't like women, he
doesn't like this, he doesn'tlike that, he's a racist, white
supremacist.
Look at the definition and seehow he's doing that and the
reason why I'm saying that.
He brings a man who I knowpersonally, named Pastor John
Amanchukwu and I'm pulling thisfrom, actually, pastor John's
(11:34):
YouTube page.
So those of you that knowPastor John, you need to go
check him out.
Phenomenal man of God.
I know him personally.
He is outstanding and he he hasknown Charlie Kirk personally.
Matter of fact, he accreditsCharlie Kirk to his success.
He will say on his YouTube pageyou can watch something.
I'm going to show you a coupleof clips here in just a minute.
Gave him his platform, endorseda book called Hoodwinked, and
(12:04):
he reads the foreword that,charlie, you do not do all of
that.
If you are a racist and a whitesupremacist, you are not going
to help black people.
You are not going to provide aplatform.
You are not going to bring ablack man on and thank him and
tell him how great of a job he'sdoing and who he is and say
this is a man that's doing greatthings.
A racist and a whitesupremacist doesn't bring black
people.
A man from Africa his family,his father, moved here in the
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1970s, I believe it was.
He is a Nigerian, he is hisname.
He said he's from the Igbo, Ibelieve it's called, and
Amanchukwu means I know God.
I mean he knows all about, andthis is a big man.
I'm going to show you someclips here in a minute.
And if he is saying to us andknows him personally and worked
with him at TPUSA, I think it'ssomething that we can give
credence to.
It's something that we can lookat.
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Did Charlie Kirk challengethings?
In my opinion, was Charlie Kirksometimes.
I mean he was.
I call myself a pretty hardpreacher, but he was straight
out the gut.
He told you exactly how it wasand I don't have any problem
with that.
But I understand we're nothaving that type of filter.
It can come across a certainway, but I believe at the core,
looking at these definitions andunderstanding it and being a
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man that has been discriminatedagainst, being a man that has
dealt with racism, being inthose situations, have dealt
with cops and things like thatYou're not looking at somebody
that hasn't dealt with thesethings.
Even growing up as a child, Ihave dealt with those things.
I can tell you situations aboutmy brothers and I and things
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that we went through.
I know what racism looks like.
Trust me, I know it very, verywell, Even though I might be
mixed, it doesn't matter.
They look at you.
They still see black.
I've had people come up to meand they'd say things back in
the day they was hoping that Iwas Italian, uh, because they
didn't want me to be black, andthere was, oh, he's Italian,
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right, you know, because theydidn't want me to be black, they
don't want any blackness in me.
I remember dating people and,uh, if I dated them and they
would want to know that, andbecause they didn't want me to
be black, and then they wouldtell me my dad doesn't like
black people.
I have seen it.
I know what that looks like,even if it's covert.
I have seen it.
And so I'm saying to you in allof this to look at things and
(14:09):
go and do your own research.
If you still feel he is, thenthat's totally up to you.
But I wanted to show you somethings here.
I want to show you a couple ofclips here that I want you to
take a peek at.
So let's take a look at thefirst one here and let's just
(14:29):
hear a little bit of what PastorJohn says and how Charlie
provides a platform for him.
Let's play the first one.
We got it here.
We have technical difficulties.
Can you press play on that?
(14:50):
Well, I'm going to keep alookout that they can bring it
up, because I think it's veryimportant, though Hopefully this
clip will come up for us.
Are we good to go there?
We go, all right.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Some kind of trouble right and it's such a great
honor.
Our guest tonight.
Master's degree from LibertyUniversity in Christian ministry
.
He played football.
You'll tell as soon as he getsup on stage.
He's been a pastor for 15 years.
He's unafraid to talk about howthe left talks a good game on
black lives that has nothingabout it.
He's unafraid to talk aboutGod's truth for us, what we
could do about it.
(15:25):
It's such an amazing honor tobe able to have him tonight as
we get back into gear here atFreedom Night in America.
Please join me in welcomingPastor John Amanchukwu.
And I think I said that right,did I do good?
Give it up.
(15:47):
You okay, oh no, give it up.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Oh no, we don't want any ads get us out of there.
I am sorry about that thank youeverybody.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
so we're going to play back and forth with the mic
now.
So, pastor John, it's actuallyright here.
Thank you guys so much.
Pastor John, welcome to Phoenix.
Thank you for having me.
You came here in the coolseason, so now I know why you're
all here tonight.
Air conditioning, I get itright.
It's the only reason why youwould be here tonight.
Pastor John, tell us aboutyourself.
(16:24):
Tell us about your walk withthe Lord and the work you do.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Yeah, so my name is John Amanchukwa and I'm blessed
to have my wife with me heretoday.
Come on, Crystal, to stand up.
I'm a man married to a womanand I celebrate that Amen.
We have three wonderfulchildren 12, 11, and 5.
We've been married going on now15 years.
Another big hand clap goesthere, and so I'm just a country
(16:50):
preacher from Raleigh, NorthCarolina, that believes in God's
truth and I'm not afraid tostand up for biblical truth and
biblical authority.
I'm a pastor who's a truewatchman and not a wimp, and I'm
not afraid to speak truth topower and to push back against
the God awful ideologies thathave been pushed down our
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children's throats but also uponthe black community.
You know I want to saysomething tonight and I want you
to hear me clearly.
So, Paul, it's right there,Brad.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Other than that listen, this is a white
supremacist and a racist.
That allows him to come on andsays especially the ideology
that has been pushed into theblack community.
Now, if you listen to the restof this interview, you'll hear
him go into abortion and talkabout how abortions were
affecting black people and howblack people need to stand up.
And now a white supremacist anda racist is not going to allow
(17:41):
a black man to come on andpromote that and preach that to
all the people that were in hisaudience during those things.
I want to take a minute now.
I want you to go to the nextclip, mr Producer, and get that
ready, brad, and bring that upin just a moment.
But you know, that's the firstclip.
I've got a couple other clips Iwant to show you here.
And this is the thing Sometimes, what people will do is people
just throw things out there andpeople don't do their research.
(18:03):
They don't look to see what'sreally happening, what's going
on, and that's why, ladies andgentlemen, it's so important
that, whether it's dealing withmedia or things on YouTube,
facebook, you've got to do yourown research.
You know, and that's why I wantto take a minute here, because
you know, if he is a racist.
Let's call it what it is.
But it's another thing, though,to listen to these things and
watch these things and then todetermine is this person really
(18:26):
racist or not.
So that's why I wanted to takea look at this, so we're going
to bring up the next clip hereand take a peek at that.
Whenever you're ready, brad, goahead and play it.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
The Bible says allow your money to perish with you.
So if you want to pull yourmoney out of a local church
because the pastor is preaching,goodbye and let your money
perish with you.
But you should expect yourpreacher to speak to these
issues and it's easy as one, two, three, just preach the Bible.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Amen.
So let's talk about the blackcommunity.
This is something that I thinkreally is confusing to a lot of
people.
The black community is actuallymore socially conservative,
correct In a lot of differentways than white liberals,
especially in California or NewYork.
Why is it that, the blackcommunity, being more socially
(19:16):
conservative, not on board forthis transgender stuff?
They Polls show that theyactually the least approving of
it.
Why is it then that Blackpastors or Black leaders then
tend to tilt with the politicalleft?
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Yeah, and you know, charlie, if I knew the true
answer to that question, I mightbe a rich man.
Okay, all right, but I'm gladyou asked a Black pastor we can
explore it together.
But here's the reality.
Consider Reverend Jesse Jackson, who coined the term Black
Genocide, who once preachedagainst abortion, but when it
(19:54):
was time for him to run foroffice, he sold his community
down a river and would not touchthe issue anymore.
Consider Barack Hussein Obama,the first Black president who
had a chance to right somewrongs and do some true work.
What did he do?
The majority of his supportwent towards two groups Planned
Parenthood and the LGBTcommunity.
(20:17):
We have blown so manyopportunities.
The issue is this Many in mycommunity happen to be low
information voters and they'regetting their information from
the wrong people.
You should expect to go tochurch and to hear the truth
about these issues, but thepastors are woke and the pastors
(20:40):
are preaching woke sermons.
So therefore you have a wokepew.
Right.
If the pulpit is woke, then theparishioners are going to be
woke, but many blacks they don'tespouse these things, but they
oftentimes vote one way and prayanother.
(21:11):
But guess what?
There's good news?
There is a remnant.
There are a group of blacks inthis country who believe in
black excellence, who believe inthe two parent, family home,
both sexes.
There is a group of minoritiesin this country who are rising
up, who supported Donald Trumpoverwhelmingly Right.
You saw something change there.
I believe that there is aremnant coming and all we need
to do is continue to sound thealarm.
Keep the message out therebefore the masses.
Create opportunities for Blackvoices to speak nationally and
(21:33):
we will turn this nation in theright direction in the Black
community.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Okay, stop up there.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
This is such an important point, so think about
it.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
You're talking about a black, a white supremacist and
a racist clapping his hands,putting his hand on there,
saying amen to a man that'ssaying preaching black
excellence, pleading, preachingblack pastors rising up,
preaching.
How many white supremacists doyou know that do that?
How many racist do you knowthat are going to say he's
preaching about black people?
That?
(22:03):
I'm a black man here.
I believe in the black family,I believe in a two parent home,
I believe in black excellence.
I mean he's preaching all black, black, black, black, and then
the end of it Charlie Kirk is.
I mean, how is that a whitesupremacist or racist?
So that's what things I wantyou to look at.
(22:25):
Now there's one more clip Iwant to show you.
Here there are some young girlsthat come on and how, because
they were linked up with TPUSA,are dealing with racism.
Now, mind you, pastor JohnAmanchukwa, you hear him talking
about all of these things thathe's standing up for, how he's
walking, standing up for Blackpeople.
He's mentioned it several times.
That's why he brought him onthere was to help black
Americans and let a black voicebe on.
(22:47):
He's saying we're looking formore people to raise up black
voices, to speak truth to power.
A white supremacist and aracist is not going to do that,
because, even if they don't likeDonald Trump, even if they
don't like him, they're notgoing to let a black person
speak to a white man.
It's not going to happenbecause there are white
supremacists and racists and sotherefore, there are a lower
class of people.
So just something to thinkabout.
Now, brad, let's cue this lastone here and let's talk about
(23:09):
this as well.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
But I do not think we should in any way, shape or
form retreat from trying to careabout our public schools.
There are fellow citizens andour fellow countrymen that need
us.
You might be able to get yourkids out, but those are future
voters, those are future leaders, and we still need to be able
to influence them.
God bless you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Hi, I'm Braylon.
I'm the president of theTurning Point USA chapter at
Liberty High School Awesome.
I am Danielle.
I'm the vice president, andlast school year we ran into a
lot of issues not being able tohave meetings due to people
thinking that our club wasracist and that we had a lot of
(23:56):
racist point of views and it raninto us not being able to have
any meetings at all the wholeschool year and our teacher rep
was so scared that he wouldn'tlet us have any meetings at all
and we did donuts, Red Bull,like stuff, fun to bring people
(24:17):
in and he was against thatbecause he didn't want to bring
too many people in that weren'tthere for the right reasons.
So we just want to know.
We would love to continue itnext school year, but we have a
lot of issues with not havingmeetings so we want to know how
we can avoid that.
What school again Liberty HighSchool In Peoria can avoid that?
(24:39):
What?
Speaker 3 (24:39):
school again Liberty High School In Peoria.
Is that a public school?
It's a public school, okay.
So, john, can you help withthis, though?
This is important for theseyoung ladies, by the way.
Give it up for them running aTurning Point USA chapter.
How great is that?
This is something that maybeyou're just going to tell us to
get over it or snap out of it.
But this is an important point,though, which is a lot of young
(25:01):
conservatives, or conservativesall ages.
They kind of get in a place ofparalysis as soon as they're
called a racist, regardless ofthe lack of accusation.
And so many times people sayCharlie Turning Point's racist.
Why, I don't know.
I read it online.
It's like oh so you're going tocall me the worst thing you
could call somebody with zeroevidence supporting it.
What's your advice to youngpeople, or all people?
How do you deal with that whensomeone calls you the R word?
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Yeah Well, I've never been called racist myself and
I'm not racist Right, and Idon't tolerate racist talk
around.
You know it all starts there.
Racism, by and large, issomething that is taught, right?
If you live in a home whereparents are pushing those
ideologies, it's going to creepinto the hearts and the minds of
the children.
But if you are out there tryingto do a noble work for a noble
(25:54):
cause, let those labels roll offof you like water down a duck's
back right.
Don't allow those things toparalyze you or cripple you from
the work that you're doing.
The left, those who are woke,are always going to label you.
Right, so you have to becomeaccustomed with being labeled.
(26:15):
Okay, but continue the workthat you are doing, because they
want to throw you off and ifthey can stop you with the R
word then you won't go forward.
Keep fighting, keep standingand know why you're doing what
you're doing and continue tolove everyone.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
And let me add one more thing, which is kind of
what do I do?
You got to be relentless, right, and so life is a series of
questions you ask yourself,right?
So you can ask yourself thequestion why is this so hard?
You know why me, or you couldsay what is great about this
problem?
What am I going to learn fromthis?
How am I going to enjoy theprocess?
What am I willing to do?
These are questions you can askyourself about that.
(26:58):
Say so, what would possibly begreat about a problem of being
called a racist and a teachernot wanting to associate with
you?
Well, you got to be morecreative, right?
You could put the teachers ondefense and say will anybody
possibly associate with our club?
Now here's the other thing,though You're in high school 17,
18, 16, 17, 18, right, you'regoing to be tougher and stronger
(27:21):
and a better leader in life,because you have to deal with
the nonsense of beingstereotyped and called names
where all of your peers geteverything easy.
You are now being put in asituation that will make you a
tougher leader for the rest ofyour life.
That's what's awesome aboutthat kind of a problem, right,
and so no easy way but parentsin the local area are going to
help you right.
(27:41):
See those hands right therethen, ready to help.
That's what the beauty ofFreedom Night in America.
And finally, you have thebacking of the largest
conservative organization inAmerica, turning Point USA.
We're not going to let them win.
We're going to make sure thatyou guys are able to get the
club, get the approval, and notbe called those terrible names.
God bless you.
We love our high schoolchapters.
We love it.
Thanks for being here.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
All right, that's good.
Thanks so much.
So, ladies and gentlemen,obviously I know some people
aren't going to agree with whatwe're doing here, but I've been
a preacher for 30 years and I'vedealt with all sorts of people
that feel certain ways andcertain things, but that's why I
need to have a voice here andto stand up for what I believe
in being a black man, I canspeak to racism.
Like I said, I've encounteredit.
I've experienced it and whatI'm seeing there is not racist.
(28:23):
Now, I understand he said a lotof controversial things and a
lot of people have differentthings with DEI and a lot of
stuff like that.
I've already shared with yousome of my stances concerning it
.
I am all for black empowerment,black people getting
opportunities, women gettingopportunities, all of those
types of things.
I think that's very, veryimportant, but I don't believe
(28:43):
that should be the number one.
Qualification is your skin color, and when you do that, it
raises question as to whysomebody is in that position.
Are they in there becausethey're qualified or they're in
there because they're their skincolor?
And I understand a lot ofpeople say, yeah, but how do you
deal with that?
Because that's the reality,though, because now, people
won't get opportunities.
And I see one person put acomment in there they wouldn't
have had an opportunity if therewouldn't have been DEI.
Well, we're still dealing withracism because, no matter how
you look at it, the racism isn'tgoing to go away just because
(29:05):
you give somebody a job.
And that's why I'm saying DEIwill never solve that.
It may give people anopportunity, but it's never
going to solve it.
And then what happens ifsomebody does get hired because
of only their skin tone?
And then what happens now?
Now you have Asians to say Ishould be able to get in,
hispanics need to get in.
It never ends.
What has to happen is you haveto deal with every circumstance
as it comes.
(29:26):
It's just that simple.
You got to deal with it as itcomes and, like I said, if
you've ever dealt with racism,you got to take it.
You know you've got laws inthere, but that's not going to
(29:47):
stop the sin, it's not going tostop the murder.
It's not going to stop that.
The only thing that can changeit is getting the gospel of
Jesus Christ into the heart ofpeople.
And even if you feel thatCharlie Kirk was a racist, the
only thing that could saveanybody that's a racist is
getting the gospel into thembecause there's so much hatred
in their heart towards aspecific race, or towards a
specific people, or towardswomen, or whatever.
(30:10):
It is the only thing that canchange them.
You can put all the laws youwant in place, but the reality
is it's never going to changeuntil the gospel gets into the
hearts of people.
Racism we're always going tohave with us.
The poor we're always going tohave with us, even the Jewish
people that are beingdiscriminated against right now.
That is something that you'realways going to have because
there's always going to be sinin the world.
So, unfortunately, it's going tobe there and people say, well,
(30:30):
what's the answer?
You can't legislate it.
You can legislate all you want.
People are still going to dowhat they're going to do, but
the only thing we can do is,hopefully, a prayer that God
will get the gospel into thehearts of people, and that's why
people that are celebrating hisdeath rejoicing over his death.
It's really sad to see that,because the reality is is what
we need to have is be a peoplethat have compassion in our
(30:52):
hearts.
I don't care.
I've had people that wereracist that died, but I'm not
rejoicing and throwing a partybecause they're dead.
You know what I mean.
And the children?
What about their children evenhaving a heart for their kids,
having a heart for his wife,having a heart for the people
that are affected by that?
People just don't even thinkabout that.
And so that's where I think themayor or the governor of Utah
(31:14):
he talked about how he said yougot to go find that angel within
you and ask God to resurrectthat thing within you, resurrect
a good heart within you.
So it's very, very important,ladies and gentlemen, that we
don't celebrate that death.
I've been spending this wholeweek talking about it and, like
I said, I figured I'm going togive my spiel on it because, as
a black man that's encounteredracism, I totally understand
(31:37):
what that looks like and I knowsome people may or may not agree
, but that's what makes Americagreat.
Right, we all have theopportunity to be able to share
what's in our hearts, and Iwanted to show you some things
here that white supremacists andracist people they are not
going to do.
They're not gonna bring blackmen on there, celebrate them,
give them a platform, all ofthose types of things.
(32:02):
Stand up for abortion and, ifyou understand where abortion
comes from, margaret Sanger.
It's intended for Black people.
If you are a white supremacistand racist, you want abortion
Name and I would challengeanybody to name an abortion
facility in white neighborhoods.
Find a white suburbanneighborhood and then tell me
where there's an abortion clinicthere.
They're always planted nearblack neighborhoods.
The purpose of PlannedParenthood, the purpose of
abortionists, the purpose, is todestroy and annihilate the
(32:24):
white or the black race.
Go back and do your research,study, margaret Sanger, and if
you have a white man that'strying to abolish abortion, they
are going to have a revelationand understand it is meant to
destroy black people and toencourage black people to not
abort their babies, to befathers, to be mothers and to
(32:45):
stand for life.
So I hope that you all havebeen blessed today by this and
I'm going to be back tomorrowtalking a little bit more to
wrap up the week and share withyou a little bit more of what
God has been putting into myheart.
So be encouraged, know that Ilove you, praying for you.
Don't forget to like, subscribe,follow and share.
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Don't forget as well, ladiesand gentlemen, to download the
podcast.
Get it why it's hot.
We'll be uploading this rightafterwards as well.
Check it out, do your ownresearch, go, look at some
videos and I encourage you.
If you've got a video you wantme to speak to, dm me, drop it
in my inbox.
Let me see where the racistcomments were and let me take a
(33:27):
peek.
And if there's something I needto take a look at, I definitely
will.
But you're not going to find it.
That's not a racist man.
It was a man that was a realist, standing up for righteousness,
preaching the gospel in a veryblunt and real way.
So God bless you and I'll seeyou next time right here on
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