September 10, 2025 • 32 mins
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A profound tragedy has shaken the political and faith communities as 31-year-old Charlie Kirk, founder of Turning Point USA, was assassinated, leaving behind a young wife and two small children under the age of three.
• Charlie Kirk, married in 2021 with children born in 2022 and 2024, was known for his Socratic-style dialogues and respectful engagement with opposing viewpoints
• This is not a time for critiquing rhetoric or political positioning but for mourning a human life cut short and supporting his grieving family
• The assassination represents a spiritual battle between truth and falsehood, reminiscent of the biblical story of Cain and Abel
• Christians are called to respond not with retaliation but with prayer for Kirk's family, witnesses to the tragedy, and our divided nation
• Martyrdom historically strengthens rather than weakens movements, potentially turning this tragedy into a catalyst for spiritual awakening
• We must recognize we're not fighting against flesh and blood but against spiritual forces, requiring spiritual weapons - prayer rather than retaliation
• The challenge is to transform this tragedy into a turning point where truth prevails over violence
Pray for the Kirk family during this unimaginable time of grief, that God would comfort his wife and provide for his young children who will grow up without their father.
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Coming up on dimensions.
If you're anywhere in thesocial media world, in the news
world unless you are livingunder a rock you have already
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heard about the unfortunateassassination of Charlie Kirk.
I'm going to be talking aboutthat today on Dimensions.
You're not going to want tomiss this.
I could not let this go by.
I just literally got back fromvacation, from my birthday, just
a couple hours ago, a few hoursago, and I felt in my heart I
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wanted to get on here and prayfor his family.
I'm not going to go heavy intoit all because there's still
things unfolding, but I felt Iwould be remiss if I didn't take
some time to speak on thismatter and then also pray over
the families.
All that and more coming up onthis episode of Dimensions.
Well, good evening everybody,and you know what.
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It's a different type of amoment for this here, this
episode of Dimensions.
It's a little bit differentthan normally coming to you.
It's with heavy hearts and withsorrow in our minds and our
hearts that we bring thisepisode to you today, or
whenever it is that you'rewatching.
As always, we like everybody tolike, subscribe, follow, share.
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If you're missing this and youdon't catch it live.
You can catch it on theDimensions podcast.
It'll be uploaded right afterthis.
But you know we want to get inon what happened here today.
I was flying back from Floridaand I was coming back and all of
a sudden I get a news flashthat he had been shot.
And immediately I just was likethis has got to be wrong.
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This can't be really what'shappening.
I mean, it's the eve of 9-11.
I'm sitting here thinking allof these I'm going through TSA
and all these things you know,the day before 9-11.
So obviously that's kind of inthe forefront of our minds and
how we'll never forget.
And then I get this newsflash ofwhat happened to Charlie Kirk.
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Some of you may not know this,but I've been to some of his
events.
I've been to TPUSA.
They had a major event down inNashville.
Matter of fact, we had a goodfriend of Charlie Kirk's at our
recent gala, pastor JohnEmichukwu.
He was there and he spoke forus and he's very well connected
in TPUSA.
If you've found out aboutPastor John Emichukwu, you know
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exactly what I'm talking about.
He is a force to be reckonedwith and he was very good
friends with Charlie Kirk and wewent down to an event held in
Nashville, got a chance to meetup with Pastor John and got a
chance to see the wonderful workthat Charlie Kirk was doing.
And you know, one of the thingsI want to mention is this I
think it's very, very importantthat I mention this.
This is not the time to critiqueCharlie Kirk.
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This is not the time to talkabout what he did or didn't do
or his rhetoric.
He did or didn't do or hisrhetoric and you'll see I saw
different news broadcastsalready talking about you know
his rhetoric and things likethat and, ladies and gentlemen,
this is a human being that has afamily.
He got married in 2021.
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He's just been married justabout four years.
He had his first baby in 2022and his second baby in 2024, not
even a year old yet, or maybejust a year old, I don't know
the exact dates, but a very,very young family.
And we've got a picture of heand his family as well.
And this is the focus thatevery person should be having
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right now is what has happenedwith he and his family.
You know you have a mother nowthat is grieving.
You have a family now that isgrieving.
You've got children that aregoing to be without their father
.
I mean, you've got all of thesethings that are happening and,
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as you could see there, thefamily I mean, this is a young
man here, 31 years old, that isjust speaking his piece, you
know what?
Let me say this too If anybodyhas done it right, it was him.
He was totally on point withhow he was addressing people.
He was totally on point withhow he was addressing
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individuals and how he wasaddressing people that were
coming to him.
He would, he would stand upwith them and he would talk with
them and he would address themand he would let them be
confrontational and he respectedwho they were, which is what
every person needs to be doing,and that's what he did, and you
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have to give him his flowerswhen it came to that.
And it's unfortunate thatpeople are critiquing him and
his rhetoric.
I mean, I was watching even onCNN they're talking about his
rhetoric and things like thatand I was like you know what?
It just broke my heart to seethat.
You know, it doesn't matter whopasses.
This is a young man, 31 yearsold, doing things in his mind
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and, in my view, the right wayin regards to addressing people.
He would have a Socratic typeatmosphere where he would bring
people together, let themconfront him.
He would confront them, talkingto them about the things of the
kingdom.
He would let them go and theywould just have a conversation.
And that's what he did.
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He went around to differentplaces just trying to challenge
people on why they believe whatthey believed, and had Socratic
type atmospheres.
That he did and it was justcompletely outstanding of what
he did and what he representedand what he did for the
Christian faith and what hestood for.
And a mighty general has fallen.
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And even if I didn't agree withhim, if I didn't agree with his
stances, for somebody to bebrutally assassinated like that,
it doesn't matter where theyare, who they are this is not
the time to be addressed.
So one of the things I want tosay is do not get caught up in
the rhetoric, do not get caughtup in people talking, do not get
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caught up in, you know,bickering with one another.
This is not the time forretaliation.
Think about his wife.
I mean, my goodness, four yearsmarried.
Now she has what to be athree-year--old and about a year
old child that no longer has afather.
And of course people say well,you know they have faith and
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things like that.
It doesn't matter.
It still hurts and we need tobe praying for their family.
We need to be praying for thechildren.
We need to be praying for hisparents.
We need to be praying for anyof his family and friends and
others that are affected by thistragedy.
This is awful, ladies andgentlemen.
This is totally that.
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If you hadn't had a chance tosee the shooting, I don't
recommend watching it.
I'm going to be talking aboutthis probably for the next two
or three days.
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I'm going to be addressingwhat's been happening here.
I actually saw the shooting.
It is just horrific.
It is not something that you'regoing to find aired.
It is just terrible, and theyneed to bring these people to
justice.
If anybody's been doing it theright way, it was Charlie Kirk,
and what I mean by that.
He would just come together.
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He would allow himself to bechallenged.
He would challenge others ontheir thinking.
If you've never watched him,watch his forums.
He totally operated.
Now, he challenged people, butthat's what democracy is all
about and he did it the rightway.
And for somebody that was doingit the right way to be brutally
assassinated the way that hewas is just unthinkable, and so
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many.
I've watched newscasters andpeople just weeping and crying
over this man and his familythroughout this time, and this
needs to be our focus.
Now let me say this as far aswhat God is giving to me right
now concerning this, I'm notgoing to go into a whole lot of
it.
You're going to have to tune in, because God always speaks to
me concerning these moments.
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But one of the things that'sreally on my heart right now the
Bible says there's a time tomourn.
This is a time of mourning.
This is a time where people arehurting and people have to
process the hurt, they have toprocess the pain, they have to
process what's going on.
I can only imagine what hiswife and children not his
children, really, but his wifeand family are feeling at this
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moment, and it's just grotesqueto me that somebody and every
time you turn around, you'reseeing more and more people
there's just another shootingthat just happened.
As a matter of fact, a lot ofpeople aren't going to know
about it.
I believe it was in Denver.
Today there was a high schoolshooting that happened because
the Charlie Kirk assassinationeclipsed it, and then, two weeks
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ago or a week ago.
We had another shooting thatjust happened and I did a series
on that, and it's funny howit's targeting the people that
are in the Christian faith.
It doesn't mean every singlemass shooting is dealing with
Christian faith, but you don'tsee the Christians murdering
others.
You don't see the people thatare standing for righteousness,
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in whatever capacity, killingthose that are in
unrighteousness.
It's the Cain and I shared thisbefore that this would be a
season where the Cain and Abelspirit would rise up, because
there is a dividing that ishappening, ladies and gentlemen,
and that's why it's soimportant that we pray for our
leaders.
Pray for your children inschool.
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We pray for our leaders, prayfor your children in school,
pray for your pastors, pray foryour preachers, pray for one
another, pray for Charlie Kirk'sfamily, pray for Erica Kirk,
pray for all of them that arebattling at this time.
It's so important that we arepraying for one another.
You know, the Bible talks abouthow in the book of Genesis,
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where it was in Noah's time, andI believe it was Genesis
chapter let me see if I can findit real quickly Genesis,
chapter number six.
And it says here let's see,here I believe it was.
Let me look this up.
Genesis, chapter six.
I'm going to make sure I haveit exactly right before I give
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this to you.
I'll have to find it because Ididn't plan on going here, but
the Bible talked about how therewas a murderous spirit that
came into the earth duringNoah's time.
Yeah, there it is, I'm sorry.
Genesis, chapter 6 and versenumber 11.
Genesis six, verse number 11.
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I want you to see this here.
It says that the earth, theBible says that Noah had found
grace with God, and then he wentthrough the genealogy and how
Noah walked with God.
And then it says in verse 10,and Noah begat three sons Shem,
ham and Japheth.
The earth also was corruptbefore God and the earth was
filled with violence.
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If you have a concordance very,very unique, the word is Hamas
and I've shared about how, inthis season, that is what we are
seeing is Hamas in the earth.
We're seeing a murderous spiritand Jesus said it would be like
the days of Noah and the onlything that can cover you from.
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Yet remember this I've seennews anchors and people talking
about how you can't say there'snot evil in the earth after
seeing what happened to CharlieKirk.
There's evil in the earth.
And it's funny how people sayoh, there's not a devil, there's
not a hell.
This is hell.
No, no, no.
What you're seeing, ladies andgentlemen, is the manifestation
of the spirits that will be inhell, these murderous spirits,
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this Cain and Abel analogy, ifyou will, that Cain spirit that
rose up to kill Abel because hisworks were righteous and Cain's
were not.
And so, instead of repenting asa result, we see how Cain
decided he was just going tokill Abel.
And we have to be praying inthis season for protection for
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all of our leaders, especiallythose that are standing for
righteousness, ladies andgentlemen, but once again, we've
got to pray for his family.
We've got to pray for hischildren, we've got to pray for
all those that are standing forrighteousness, ladies and
gentlemen, but once again, we'vegot to pray for his family.
We've got to pray for hischildren, we've got to pray for
all those that are affected,even the people that were there,
that God would get the glory inthe middle of this.
Imagine.
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You know, let me say this realquickly the worst thing that you
can ever do to a cause is killits founder.
Whenever you make a martyr outof a founder, you cause the
movement to accelerate and toenlarge, because then the people
begin to have compassion forthe injured party.
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And now, because of that theyhave compassion, which means
that I will suffer with you theybegin to open up.
That's the reason why, backwhen Emmett Till was murdered,
his mother, after they broughthim back and he looked
completely horrible and theysaid well, you don't want to
have an open case?
No, no, no.
They need to see what they didto my son.
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And when they saw what they didto her son, even racists begin
to repent.
People begin to look at itdifferently, because that was a
human being.
So this is the thing.
Now watch this.
What the devil will try to do inthis season is create more
anger and wrath and make itabout war.
And make it about no, no, no,because then what happens?
You don't have compassion.
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War.
And making about the no, no, no, because then what happens?
You don't have compassion onthe man and the message that he
had and his movement.
So that's what the devil wantsto do.
He wants to make.
That's why you can't allow yourheart to be filled with
bitterness, you can't allow yourheart to be angry, you can't
allow retaliation.
That is not the answer, that isnot God's plan, that is not
what he wants.
He wants all men to be saved.
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It doesn't mean we don'tchallenge the things that are
happening, but not with aretaliatory spirit, because
we're not wrestling againstflesh and blood, but against
principalities and powers,against the rules of darkness of
this world, against spiritualweakness and high places.
What does the Bible say?
Therefore, take unto you thewhole armor of God that you may
be able to stand against thewiles of the devil.
And the Bible says, having done, may be able to stand against
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the wiles of the devil.
And God says, having done allto stand, to stand and enlist,
from the heaven of salvation allthe way down to your feet, god,
with the preparation of thegospel of peace.
It is important that weunderstand this is not flesh and
blood, this is not people.
Yes, people are the puppets ofthe principalities and powers,
but the reality is the only wayyou win this battle is through
prayer.
And that's why, before I go, Iwant to take a moment and we're
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going to pray and intercede andask God's blessing because of
how tragic of a moment this is.
But that's what they're goingto say the devil always try to
take and twist it, retaliate,retaliate.
Think about it when Jesus was onthe cross, the devil thought he
destroyed him.
That's why we read 1Corinthians 2, he said if the
devil would have known he wascrucifying the Lord of glory, he
wouldn't have done it.
You can't kill the founder of amovement and make them a martyr
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and not expect the movement toexpand.
Jesus said it like this excepta corn of wheat fall into the
ground and dies, it abides alone, but if it dies, it'll produce
much fruit, we may be on theverge of one of the most
greatest moves of God we've everseen.
We may see and, to play on hiswords, it could be an actual
turning point.
It could actually be a placewhere there's a pivot that is
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going to be made, where there isa shift that is going to happen
.
And that's why the Bible saysif my people, who are called by
my name, will humble themselvesand pray, seek my face and turn
from their wicked way, then I'llhear from heaven, forgive their
sins and heal their land.
And of course, like I said, Iwant to go into more of what the
Lord has already spoken to meand shown me concerning what it
is.
But this is not the time to gointo all of that, but just to
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all of that, but just somethings that we need to be
praying about.
We need to be praying forrevival.
We need to be praying for thosestudents and those people that
were there and how this willimpact them.
Seeing somebody brutallyassassinated.
A lot of people may needcounseling.
They may not sleep well.
I mean, they could deal withterror.
I mean there's all sorts ofthings that could happen and we
need to pray.
Please hear me that the word ofGod does not get bound.
See, what they want to do isthey want to silence the voice.
When I say they, theprincipalities and powers
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through people, want to silencethe voice of those that are
speaking truth, because truth,crushed to the ground, it must
rise again, and that's what hestood for and that's what I
believe the turning point is.
Is America returning back totruth that a man is a man, a
woman is a woman, marriage isbetween one man and one woman,
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abortion is murder.
I mean, whatever it is that youwant to mention.
These are the truths that thedevil is trying to annihilate
and raising up people in orderto see.
This is an opportunity.
In order to see, this is anopportunity and we cannot see
this as a stumbling block.
We cannot see it as a rock ofoffense, if you will.
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We have to see it as a steppingstone.
We cannot allow his death to bein vain.
We have to pray, we have tointercede, we have to get the
mind of Christ and find out whatis the spirit of the Lord
saying in this day and in thishour.
It's so easy to react in thenatural.
It's so easy to react withretaliation.
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There are going to be somepeople that are going to just be
grieving.
There's going to be some peoplethat are going to want to
retaliate.
There are going to be somepeople that are going to spark
off anger.
There can be somebody sayinglike come on, let's hit them
back.
We're not wrestling again.
This isn't a right wing, leftwing thing.
It's not that I don't care whatanybody tells you.
That's not what this is about.
This is about truth and lies.
Ladies and gentlemen, this isabout light and darkness.
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This is about the life versusdeath.
This is about heaven versushell.
Don't politicize it.
Don't make it political.
This has nothing to do withpolitics.
I tell people this all the timeand if you've watched me for
any amount of time, I tellpeople all the time this is not
political.
We have to get that into ourminds and we have to get the
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mind of the Lord, because theBible says that we have the mind
of Christ in 1 Corinthians 2,verse 16.
You have the mind of the Lordthat you may instruct him in
prayer.
You can look at the cross andsee what the Lord was up to.
The devil couldn't figure itout.
He thought it was the end.
This very well could be thebeginning of something brand new
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.
God, I can't share everythingright now, but there's things
that Lord spoke to me.
Even when I was away, he beganto speak to me.
He said when you get back,there are some things that I was
beginning to look for and theLord began to speak to me.
I'm going to share some otherthings with you in the days to
come, but I want to take amoment now and I want to just
intercede and I hope that you'lltake a minute and pray with me.
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Hope that you'll take a minuteand I hope that you'll tune in
over the next couple of nightsat 8.30 on Thursday night, on
Friday night, and I hope thatyou'll share these.
I'm going to get in more onthis as the Lord leads me and
I'm going to talk to you aboutwhat I believe the Spirit of the
Lord is saying and there'sgoing to be more coming out and
as more comes out, I'm going tobe addressing those things as
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well.
But we want to pray and askGod's blessing upon the families
.
Come on, let's pray right now.
Father, in the name of Jesus, wecome before you, father, we
intercede right now for everyplot and plan, father, that you
have, father, god, that it wouldcome to fruition, but every
plot and plan of the enemy wouldcome to nothing.
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Father, we pray for CharlieKirk's wife right now, and their
family.
Oh God, we intercede for themthat their hearts, father, would
be comforted in a way that onlyyou can.
Father, we can't even imaginethe feeling and the anguish that
they may be feeling.
Lord, I know that your grace issufficient.
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Lord, we are not candidates forgrace if we can do it in
ourselves, but, lord, I knowthat they are candidates for
grace right now.
Lord, I pray for every student,father, that was there, every
faculty, every person, every man, every woman, every sinner,
every saint that was there atthat time, that, lord, you would
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get the glory.
You would be lifted up, god,you would be exalted, father.
You, father God, would get theglory.
You said that, if you would belifted up, that you would draw
all men unto you.
And so, father God, we'repraying right now.
Father, that, lord, somethinggreat would come out of this.
Father, we may not be able tosee it with our natural eye, but
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, father, you said all thingsthat you have heard, jesus, you
said all things that you haveheard from the Father you have
made known unto us, because weare no longer slaves, but, lord,
we are now sons, we are nowfriends of God.
And so, father, god, I'mpraying that we would have the
mind of Christ.
I'm praying today that everyspirit of retaliation would be
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denied.
In the name of Jesus, I pray,father, that, even as your son
was crucified up on that cross,and you had a plan in the midst
of it all, that, lord, you wouldbegin to reveal your plan in
the middle of this tragedy.
And, lord, I pray that triumph,father God, and victory would
come out of this tragedy.
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In the name of Jesus, I praythat every lie of the enemy
would cease and desist.
O God, I pray that you wouldget the glory, father.
I pray, father God, that soulswould be saved, that revivals
would break out, that this wouldbe a turning point for a
supernatural awakening in theearth, o God, and so, lord, god,
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we pray right now that youwould be lifted up, that you
would draw all men unto you.
I pray that every preacherFather would repent that needs
to you.
I pray that every preacherFather would repent that needs
to repent.
I pray that every church memberwould repent, father, and I
pray that this would be aturning point, father, god, lord
, may it be a turning point.
In the name of Jesus, mayeverything that he stood for be
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a turning point, that we wouldturn back to truth.
In the name of Jesus.
And so, father God, I prayright now for his children, even
now, that, as they get older,you would begin to condition
their hearts and minds andspirits to be able to hear what
it is that the Spirit of theLord would say.
That, lord, they would becomebetter and not bitter.
Father, god and Lord, that theywould be blessed.
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In the name of Jesus and Lord, Ibless her right now.
I bless her charge, father God,that she has been committed to
Father, lord, she has beenwilling to walk alongside this
man and pay the ultimate price.
And, lord, I'm asking, fatherGod, that you would comfort her
heart and that you would speakto her and encourage her in
dreams and visions and knowledgeand revelation, that, lord, you
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would gird her up and that,lord, she would even have that
in her spirit.
That we do not sorrow as othersthat have no hope.
But, father God, may she have aconsolation that only comes
from you.
Gird her up and strengthen her,uplift her, encourage her,
edify her, build her up.
O God, in the name of Jesus andall of the family and friends
and those that have beenaffected by this tragedy, father
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, we ask for your blessing andLord, we thank you.
Lord, we give you the praise,father, we give you the honor,
we give you the glory, fatherGod, for what you're about to do
, that you will use what theenemy has meant for evil and you
will turn it around for yourgood.
And, father, we thank you that,lord, you would give us all
eyes to see, ears to hear andhearts to obey your voice.
And, lord, we thank you that,lord, you would give us all eyes
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to see, ears to hear and heartsto obey your voice and Lord.
We thank you and Lord, we giveyou all the praise, the honor
and we give you all the glorythat you are going to take what
the devil has meant for evil,father, and that you will turn
it around for your good andFather.
We thank you and we honor youand we bless you today In Jesus'
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name.
We pray Amen, amen, amen, amen.
Ladies and gentlemen, I want tothank you so much for your
continuous prayers for the Kirkfamily.
I can't tell you enough Don'tget online and get into
arguments.
That's not what God wants.
Don't get online and get intoarguments.
That's not what God wants.
Don't get online and listen tothe chatter, and you know
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there's people talking aboutthat.
This is the time that the rightwing wants to call for war and
all this stuff.
Ladies and gentlemen, if we'regoing to battle in war, it's not
with flesh and blood.
Remember this Jesus will neveranoint you to kill what he died
for.
If Jesus wanted to kill us, hewould have.
He wants to save us.
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It doesn't mean justice doesnot need to prevail, but
remember this when Jesus wasgetting ready to be taken to the
cross.
If you remember the story, peterpicked up a sword and cut off
Malchus' ear and Jesus said waita minute, you do not know what
spirit you are of.
Picked up the ear, put it backon Melchizedek's ear and what
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happened there?
I heard a man say somethingyears ago that I thought was
really good.
He said Peter had the rightweapon, but the wrong realm.
You need to have the sword, butit's not for the natural, it's
for the supernatural, it's forthe supernatural, it's for the
spirit realm.
And it's so easy in thesemoments to allow our emotions to
rule and to reign in our lives,and this is why we must pray,
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so then we might have the mindof Christ and know what the
spirit of the Lord is saying,and that we pray for those that
have been affected by thishorrible tragedy.
It's a horrible tragedy, butGod is a God that has an ability
to take what the devil hasmeant for evil, and he always
turns it for our good.
Unfortunately, the Kirk familyis walking through this time,
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but none of this took God bysurprise.
He knew this was going tohappen Before he ever woke up
this morning.
God already knew, and this iswhat's amazing.
If Jesus was slain before thefoundations of the world because
God knew there would be sin inthe garden, god has already made
provision for the Kirk familyand if you are watching right
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now and you are battling in anyarea of your life, provision is
already there.
Remember, get the right weaponin the right realm and watch
what God will begin to do inyour life.
Now let's continue to keeppraying for them, let's keep the
faith, let's expect God to turnthis for his honor and for his
glory, and remember the Kirkfamily and all those that are
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affected by this horribletragedy.
And tomorrow I'll be back hereagain on Dimensions talking more
about this, and I'm praying foryou that your turnaround is
going to happen as well.
God hasn't forgotten about youand I believe your best and
blessed days are soon to come.
I'll see you tomorrow.
Same time, same dimensions, newlevel.
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Thank you, thank you.
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Coming up on dimensions.
If you're anywhere in thesocial media world, in the news
world unless you are livingunder a rock you have already
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heard about the unfortunateassassination of Charlie Kirk.
I'm going to be talking aboutthat today on Dimensions.
You're not going to want tomiss this.
I could not let this go by.
I just literally got back fromvacation, from my birthday, just
a couple hours ago, a few hoursago, and I felt in my heart I
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wanted to get on here and prayfor his family.
I'm not going to go heavy intoit all because there's still
things unfolding, but I felt Iwould be remiss if I didn't take
some time to speak on thismatter and then also pray over
the families.
All that and more coming up onthis episode of Dimensions.
Well, good evening everybody,and you know what.
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It's a different type of amoment for this here, this
episode of Dimensions.
It's a little bit differentthan normally coming to you.
It's with heavy hearts and withsorrow in our minds and our
hearts that we bring thisepisode to you today, or
whenever it is that you'rewatching.
As always, we like everybody tolike, subscribe, follow, share.
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If you're missing this and youdon't catch it live.
You can catch it on theDimensions podcast.
It'll be uploaded right afterthis.
But you know we want to get inon what happened here today.
I was flying back from Floridaand I was coming back and all of
a sudden I get a news flashthat he had been shot.
And immediately I just was likethis has got to be wrong.
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This can't be really what'shappening.
I mean, it's the eve of 9-11.
I'm sitting here thinking allof these I'm going through TSA
and all these things you know,the day before 9-11.
So obviously that's kind of inthe forefront of our minds and
how we'll never forget.
And then I get this newsflash ofwhat happened to Charlie Kirk.
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Some of you may not know this,but I've been to some of his
events.
I've been to TPUSA.
They had a major event down inNashville.
Matter of fact, we had a goodfriend of Charlie Kirk's at our
recent gala, pastor JohnEmichukwu.
He was there and he spoke forus and he's very well connected
in TPUSA.
If you've found out aboutPastor John Emichukwu, you know
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exactly what I'm talking about.
He is a force to be reckonedwith and he was very good
friends with Charlie Kirk and wewent down to an event held in
Nashville, got a chance to meetup with Pastor John and got a
chance to see the wonderful workthat Charlie Kirk was doing.
And you know, one of the thingsI want to mention is this I
think it's very, very importantthat I mention this.
This is not the time to critiqueCharlie Kirk.
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This is not the time to talkabout what he did or didn't do
or his rhetoric.
He did or didn't do or hisrhetoric and you'll see I saw
different news broadcastsalready talking about you know
his rhetoric and things likethat and, ladies and gentlemen,
this is a human being that has afamily.
He got married in 2021.
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He's just been married justabout four years.
He had his first baby in 2022and his second baby in 2024, not
even a year old yet, or maybejust a year old, I don't know
the exact dates, but a very,very young family.
And we've got a picture of heand his family as well.
And this is the focus thatevery person should be having
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right now is what has happenedwith he and his family.
You know you have a mother nowthat is grieving.
You have a family now that isgrieving.
You've got children that aregoing to be without their father
.
I mean, you've got all of thesethings that are happening and,
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as you could see there, thefamily I mean, this is a young
man here, 31 years old, that isjust speaking his piece, you
know what?
Let me say this too If anybodyhas done it right, it was him.
He was totally on point withhow he was addressing people.
He was totally on point withhow he was addressing
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individuals and how he wasaddressing people that were
coming to him.
He would, he would stand upwith them and he would talk with
them and he would address themand he would let them be
confrontational and he respectedwho they were, which is what
every person needs to be doing,and that's what he did, and you
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have to give him his flowerswhen it came to that.
And it's unfortunate thatpeople are critiquing him and
his rhetoric.
I mean, I was watching even onCNN they're talking about his
rhetoric and things like thatand I was like you know what?
It just broke my heart to seethat.
You know, it doesn't matter whopasses.
This is a young man, 31 yearsold, doing things in his mind
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and, in my view, the right wayin regards to addressing people.
He would have a Socratic typeatmosphere where he would bring
people together, let themconfront him.
He would confront them, talkingto them about the things of the
kingdom.
He would let them go and theywould just have a conversation.
And that's what he did.
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He went around to differentplaces just trying to challenge
people on why they believe whatthey believed, and had Socratic
type atmospheres.
That he did and it was justcompletely outstanding of what
he did and what he representedand what he did for the
Christian faith and what hestood for.
And a mighty general has fallen.
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And even if I didn't agree withhim, if I didn't agree with his
stances, for somebody to bebrutally assassinated like that,
it doesn't matter where theyare, who they are this is not
the time to be addressed.
So one of the things I want tosay is do not get caught up in
the rhetoric, do not get caughtup in people talking, do not get
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caught up in, you know,bickering with one another.
This is not the time forretaliation.
Think about his wife.
I mean, my goodness, four yearsmarried.
Now she has what to be athree-year--old and about a year
old child that no longer has afather.
And of course people say well,you know they have faith and
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things like that.
It doesn't matter.
It still hurts and we need tobe praying for their family.
We need to be praying for thechildren.
We need to be praying for hisparents.
We need to be praying for anyof his family and friends and
others that are affected by thistragedy.
This is awful, ladies andgentlemen.
This is totally that.
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If you hadn't had a chance tosee the shooting, I don't
recommend watching it.
I'm going to be talking aboutthis probably for the next two
or three days.
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I'm going to be addressingwhat's been happening here.
I actually saw the shooting.
It is just horrific.
It is not something that you'regoing to find aired.
It is just terrible, and theyneed to bring these people to
justice.
If anybody's been doing it theright way, it was Charlie Kirk,
and what I mean by that.
He would just come together.
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He would allow himself to bechallenged.
He would challenge others ontheir thinking.
If you've never watched him,watch his forums.
He totally operated.
Now, he challenged people, butthat's what democracy is all
about and he did it the rightway.
And for somebody that was doingit the right way to be brutally
assassinated the way that hewas is just unthinkable, and so
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many.
I've watched newscasters andpeople just weeping and crying
over this man and his familythroughout this time, and this
needs to be our focus.
Now let me say this as far aswhat God is giving to me right
now concerning this, I'm notgoing to go into a whole lot of
it.
You're going to have to tune in, because God always speaks to
me concerning these moments.
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But one of the things that'sreally on my heart right now the
Bible says there's a time tomourn.
This is a time of mourning.
This is a time where people arehurting and people have to
process the hurt, they have toprocess the pain, they have to
process what's going on.
I can only imagine what hiswife and children not his
children, really, but his wifeand family are feeling at this
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moment, and it's just grotesqueto me that somebody and every
time you turn around, you'reseeing more and more people
there's just another shootingthat just happened.
As a matter of fact, a lot ofpeople aren't going to know
about it.
I believe it was in Denver.
Today there was a high schoolshooting that happened because
the Charlie Kirk assassinationeclipsed it, and then, two weeks
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ago or a week ago.
We had another shooting thatjust happened and I did a series
on that, and it's funny howit's targeting the people that
are in the Christian faith.
It doesn't mean every singlemass shooting is dealing with
Christian faith, but you don'tsee the Christians murdering
others.
You don't see the people thatare standing for righteousness,
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in whatever capacity, killingthose that are in
unrighteousness.
It's the Cain and I shared thisbefore that this would be a
season where the Cain and Abelspirit would rise up, because
there is a dividing that ishappening, ladies and gentlemen,
and that's why it's soimportant that we pray for our
leaders.
Pray for your children inschool.
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We pray for our leaders, prayfor your children in school,
pray for your pastors, pray foryour preachers, pray for one
another, pray for Charlie Kirk'sfamily, pray for Erica Kirk,
pray for all of them that arebattling at this time.
It's so important that we arepraying for one another.
You know, the Bible talks abouthow in the book of Genesis,
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where it was in Noah's time, andI believe it was Genesis
chapter let me see if I can findit real quickly Genesis,
chapter number six.
And it says here let's see,here I believe it was.
Let me look this up.
Genesis, chapter six.
I'm going to make sure I haveit exactly right before I give
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this to you.
I'll have to find it because Ididn't plan on going here, but
the Bible talked about how therewas a murderous spirit that
came into the earth duringNoah's time.
Yeah, there it is, I'm sorry.
Genesis, chapter 6 and versenumber 11.
Genesis six, verse number 11.
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I want you to see this here.
It says that the earth, theBible says that Noah had found
grace with God, and then he wentthrough the genealogy and how
Noah walked with God.
And then it says in verse 10,and Noah begat three sons Shem,
ham and Japheth.
The earth also was corruptbefore God and the earth was
filled with violence.
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If you have a concordance very,very unique, the word is Hamas
and I've shared about how, inthis season, that is what we are
seeing is Hamas in the earth.
We're seeing a murderous spiritand Jesus said it would be like
the days of Noah and the onlything that can cover you from.
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Yet remember this I've seennews anchors and people talking
about how you can't say there'snot evil in the earth after
seeing what happened to CharlieKirk.
There's evil in the earth.
And it's funny how people sayoh, there's not a devil, there's
not a hell.
This is hell.
No, no, no.
What you're seeing, ladies andgentlemen, is the manifestation
of the spirits that will be inhell, these murderous spirits,
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this Cain and Abel analogy, ifyou will, that Cain spirit that
rose up to kill Abel because hisworks were righteous and Cain's
were not.
And so, instead of repenting asa result, we see how Cain
decided he was just going tokill Abel.
And we have to be praying inthis season for protection for
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all of our leaders, especiallythose that are standing for
righteousness, ladies andgentlemen, but once again, we've
got to pray for his family.
We've got to pray for hischildren, we've got to pray for
all those that are standing forrighteousness, ladies and
gentlemen, but once again, we'vegot to pray for his family.
We've got to pray for hischildren, we've got to pray for
all those that are affected,even the people that were there,
that God would get the glory inthe middle of this.
Imagine.
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You know, let me say this realquickly the worst thing that you
can ever do to a cause is killits founder.
Whenever you make a martyr outof a founder, you cause the
movement to accelerate and toenlarge, because then the people
begin to have compassion forthe injured party.
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And now, because of that theyhave compassion, which means
that I will suffer with you theybegin to open up.
That's the reason why, backwhen Emmett Till was murdered,
his mother, after they broughthim back and he looked
completely horrible and theysaid well, you don't want to
have an open case?
No, no, no.
They need to see what they didto my son.
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And when they saw what they didto her son, even racists begin
to repent.
People begin to look at itdifferently, because that was a
human being.
So this is the thing.
Now watch this.
What the devil will try to do inthis season is create more
anger and wrath and make itabout war.
And make it about no, no, no,because then what happens?
You don't have compassion.
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War.
And making about the no, no, no, because then what happens?
You don't have compassion onthe man and the message that he
had and his movement.
So that's what the devil wantsto do.
He wants to make.
That's why you can't allow yourheart to be filled with
bitterness, you can't allow yourheart to be angry, you can't
allow retaliation.
That is not the answer, that isnot God's plan, that is not
what he wants.
He wants all men to be saved.
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It doesn't mean we don'tchallenge the things that are
happening, but not with aretaliatory spirit, because
we're not wrestling againstflesh and blood, but against
principalities and powers,against the rules of darkness of
this world, against spiritualweakness and high places.
What does the Bible say?
Therefore, take unto you thewhole armor of God that you may
be able to stand against thewiles of the devil.
And the Bible says, having done, may be able to stand against
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the wiles of the devil.
And God says, having done allto stand, to stand and enlist,
from the heaven of salvation allthe way down to your feet, god,
with the preparation of thegospel of peace.
It is important that weunderstand this is not flesh and
blood, this is not people.
Yes, people are the puppets ofthe principalities and powers,
but the reality is the only wayyou win this battle is through
prayer.
And that's why, before I go, Iwant to take a moment and we're
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going to pray and intercede andask God's blessing because of
how tragic of a moment this is.
But that's what they're goingto say the devil always try to
take and twist it, retaliate,retaliate.
Think about it when Jesus was onthe cross, the devil thought he
destroyed him.
That's why we read 1Corinthians 2, he said if the
devil would have known he wascrucifying the Lord of glory, he
wouldn't have done it.
You can't kill the founder of amovement and make them a martyr
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and not expect the movement toexpand.
Jesus said it like this excepta corn of wheat fall into the
ground and dies, it abides alone, but if it dies, it'll produce
much fruit, we may be on theverge of one of the most
greatest moves of God we've everseen.
We may see and, to play on hiswords, it could be an actual
turning point.
It could actually be a placewhere there's a pivot that is
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going to be made, where there isa shift that is going to happen
.
And that's why the Bible saysif my people, who are called by
my name, will humble themselvesand pray, seek my face and turn
from their wicked way, then I'llhear from heaven, forgive their
sins and heal their land.
And of course, like I said, Iwant to go into more of what the
Lord has already spoken to meand shown me concerning what it
is.
But this is not the time to gointo all of that, but just to
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all of that, but just somethings that we need to be
praying about.
We need to be praying forrevival.
We need to be praying for thosestudents and those people that
were there and how this willimpact them.
Seeing somebody brutallyassassinated.
A lot of people may needcounseling.
They may not sleep well.
I mean, they could deal withterror.
I mean there's all sorts ofthings that could happen and we
need to pray.
Please hear me that the word ofGod does not get bound.
See, what they want to do isthey want to silence the voice.
When I say they, theprincipalities and powers
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through people, want to silencethe voice of those that are
speaking truth, because truth,crushed to the ground, it must
rise again, and that's what hestood for and that's what I
believe the turning point is.
Is America returning back totruth that a man is a man, a
woman is a woman, marriage isbetween one man and one woman,
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abortion is murder.
I mean, whatever it is that youwant to mention.
These are the truths that thedevil is trying to annihilate
and raising up people in orderto see.
This is an opportunity.
In order to see, this is anopportunity and we cannot see
this as a stumbling block.
We cannot see it as a rock ofoffense, if you will.
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We have to see it as a steppingstone.
We cannot allow his death to bein vain.
We have to pray, we have tointercede, we have to get the
mind of Christ and find out whatis the spirit of the Lord
saying in this day and in thishour.
It's so easy to react in thenatural.
It's so easy to react withretaliation.
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There are going to be somepeople that are going to just be
grieving.
There's going to be some peoplethat are going to want to
retaliate.
There are going to be somepeople that are going to spark
off anger.
There can be somebody sayinglike come on, let's hit them
back.
We're not wrestling again.
This isn't a right wing, leftwing thing.
It's not that I don't care whatanybody tells you.
That's not what this is about.
This is about truth and lies.
Ladies and gentlemen, this isabout light and darkness.
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This is about the life versusdeath.
This is about heaven versushell.
Don't politicize it.
Don't make it political.
This has nothing to do withpolitics.
I tell people this all the timeand if you've watched me for
any amount of time, I tellpeople all the time this is not
political.
We have to get that into ourminds and we have to get the
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mind of the Lord, because theBible says that we have the mind
of Christ in 1 Corinthians 2,verse 16.
You have the mind of the Lordthat you may instruct him in
prayer.
You can look at the cross andsee what the Lord was up to.
The devil couldn't figure itout.
He thought it was the end.
This very well could be thebeginning of something brand new
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.
God, I can't share everythingright now, but there's things
that Lord spoke to me.
Even when I was away, he beganto speak to me.
He said when you get back,there are some things that I was
beginning to look for and theLord began to speak to me.
I'm going to share some otherthings with you in the days to
come, but I want to take amoment now and I want to just
intercede and I hope that you'lltake a minute and pray with me.
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Hope that you'll take a minuteand I hope that you'll tune in
over the next couple of nightsat 8.30 on Thursday night, on
Friday night, and I hope thatyou'll share these.
I'm going to get in more onthis as the Lord leads me and
I'm going to talk to you aboutwhat I believe the Spirit of the
Lord is saying and there'sgoing to be more coming out and
as more comes out, I'm going tobe addressing those things as
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well.
But we want to pray and askGod's blessing upon the families
.
Come on, let's pray right now.
Father, in the name of Jesus, wecome before you, father, we
intercede right now for everyplot and plan, father, that you
have, father, god, that it wouldcome to fruition, but every
plot and plan of the enemy wouldcome to nothing.
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Father, we pray for CharlieKirk's wife right now, and their
family.
Oh God, we intercede for themthat their hearts, father, would
be comforted in a way that onlyyou can.
Father, we can't even imaginethe feeling and the anguish that
they may be feeling.
Lord, I know that your grace issufficient.
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Lord, we are not candidates forgrace if we can do it in
ourselves, but, lord, I knowthat they are candidates for
grace right now.
Lord, I pray for every student,father, that was there, every
faculty, every person, every man, every woman, every sinner,
every saint that was there atthat time, that, lord, you would
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get the glory.
You would be lifted up, god,you would be exalted, father.
You, father God, would get theglory.
You said that, if you would belifted up, that you would draw
all men unto you.
And so, father God, we'repraying right now.
Father, that, lord, somethinggreat would come out of this.
Father, we may not be able tosee it with our natural eye, but
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, father, you said all thingsthat you have heard, jesus, you
said all things that you haveheard from the Father you have
made known unto us, because weare no longer slaves, but, lord,
we are now sons, we are nowfriends of God.
And so, father, god, I'mpraying that we would have the
mind of Christ.
I'm praying today that everyspirit of retaliation would be
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denied.
In the name of Jesus, I pray,father, that, even as your son
was crucified up on that cross,and you had a plan in the midst
of it all, that, lord, you wouldbegin to reveal your plan in
the middle of this tragedy.
And, lord, I pray that triumph,father God, and victory would
come out of this tragedy.
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In the name of Jesus, I praythat every lie of the enemy
would cease and desist.
O God, I pray that you wouldget the glory, father.
I pray, father God, that soulswould be saved, that revivals
would break out, that this wouldbe a turning point for a
supernatural awakening in theearth, o God, and so, lord, god,
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we pray right now that youwould be lifted up, that you
would draw all men unto you.
I pray that every preacherFather would repent that needs
to you.
I pray that every preacherFather would repent that needs
to repent.
I pray that every church memberwould repent, father, and I
pray that this would be aturning point, father, god, lord
, may it be a turning point.
In the name of Jesus, mayeverything that he stood for be
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a turning point, that we wouldturn back to truth.
In the name of Jesus.
And so, father God, I prayright now for his children, even
now, that, as they get older,you would begin to condition
their hearts and minds andspirits to be able to hear what
it is that the Spirit of theLord would say.
That, lord, they would becomebetter and not bitter.
Father, god and Lord, that theywould be blessed.
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In the name of Jesus and Lord, Ibless her right now.
I bless her charge, father God,that she has been committed to
Father, lord, she has beenwilling to walk alongside this
man and pay the ultimate price.
And, lord, I'm asking, fatherGod, that you would comfort her
heart and that you would speakto her and encourage her in
dreams and visions and knowledgeand revelation, that, lord, you
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would gird her up and that,lord, she would even have that
in her spirit.
That we do not sorrow as othersthat have no hope.
But, father God, may she have aconsolation that only comes
from you.
Gird her up and strengthen her,uplift her, encourage her,
edify her, build her up.
O God, in the name of Jesus andall of the family and friends
and those that have beenaffected by this tragedy, father
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, we ask for your blessing andLord, we thank you.
Lord, we give you the praise,father, we give you the honor,
we give you the glory, fatherGod, for what you're about to do
, that you will use what theenemy has meant for evil and you
will turn it around for yourgood.
And, father, we thank you that,lord, you would give us all
eyes to see, ears to hear andhearts to obey your voice.
And, lord, we thank you that,lord, you would give us all eyes
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to see, ears to hear and heartsto obey your voice and Lord.
We thank you and Lord, we giveyou all the praise, the honor
and we give you all the glorythat you are going to take what
the devil has meant for evil,father, and that you will turn
it around for your good andFather.
We thank you and we honor youand we bless you today In Jesus'
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name.
We pray Amen, amen, amen, amen.
Ladies and gentlemen, I want tothank you so much for your
continuous prayers for the Kirkfamily.
I can't tell you enough Don'tget online and get into
arguments.
That's not what God wants.
Don't get online and get intoarguments.
That's not what God wants.
Don't get online and listen tothe chatter, and you know
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there's people talking aboutthat.
This is the time that the rightwing wants to call for war and
all this stuff.
Ladies and gentlemen, if we'regoing to battle in war, it's not
with flesh and blood.
Remember this Jesus will neveranoint you to kill what he died
for.
If Jesus wanted to kill us, hewould have.
He wants to save us.
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It doesn't mean justice doesnot need to prevail, but
remember this when Jesus wasgetting ready to be taken to the
cross.
If you remember the story, peterpicked up a sword and cut off
Malchus' ear and Jesus said waita minute, you do not know what
spirit you are of.
Picked up the ear, put it backon Melchizedek's ear and what
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happened there?
I heard a man say somethingyears ago that I thought was
really good.
He said Peter had the rightweapon, but the wrong realm.
You need to have the sword, butit's not for the natural, it's
for the supernatural, it's forthe supernatural, it's for the
spirit realm.
And it's so easy in thesemoments to allow our emotions to
rule and to reign in our lives,and this is why we must pray,
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so then we might have the mindof Christ and know what the
spirit of the Lord is saying,and that we pray for those that
have been affected by thishorrible tragedy.
It's a horrible tragedy, butGod is a God that has an ability
to take what the devil hasmeant for evil, and he always
turns it for our good.
Unfortunately, the Kirk familyis walking through this time,
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but none of this took God bysurprise.
He knew this was going tohappen Before he ever woke up
this morning.
God already knew, and this iswhat's amazing.
If Jesus was slain before thefoundations of the world because
God knew there would be sin inthe garden, god has already made
provision for the Kirk familyand if you are watching right
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now and you are battling in anyarea of your life, provision is
already there.
Remember, get the right weaponin the right realm and watch
what God will begin to do inyour life.
Now let's continue to keeppraying for them, let's keep the
faith, let's expect God to turnthis for his honor and for his
glory, and remember the Kirkfamily and all those that are
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affected by this horribletragedy.
And tomorrow I'll be back hereagain on Dimensions talking more
about this, and I'm praying foryou that your turnaround is
going to happen as well.
God hasn't forgotten about youand I believe your best and
blessed days are soon to come.
I'll see you tomorrow.
Same time, same dimensions, newlevel.
(31:00):
Thank you, thank you.
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