The Great Commission and the End Times with Special Guest Overseer Ladell Cole

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SPEAKER_01 (00:04):
Well, you need to stop the presses and what you're
doing because do I have anepisode coming up for you?
My brother from another mother.
We call each other CovenantBrothers, Pastor Liddell Cole,
Overseer.
Liddell Cole out of Tampa,Florida, from One Church, Tampa
is going to be joining with me.

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We are going to be getting intosome prophetic stuff that is
going to blow your mind.
Anytime me and him get together,it's always going to be
electrifying and full of theHoly Ghost.
So you need to stop what you'redoing right now.
Get the word out.
Let everybody know that theyneed to tune into Dimensions.
Because we're going to betalking about the Great
Commission.
We're going to talk about theend times.

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And who knows what else we'regoing to get into because where
two are gathered together,especially with my covenant
brother.
God said he would be there inthe midst.
So all that and more is comingup right now on Dimensions.

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Christ.

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Because you know, ladies andgentlemen, he is coming back
soon for a bride without spot,wrinkle, or any such blemish.
And God put it into my spirit.
He said, Tell my people, keepoil in their lamps, love in
their heart, sin and leaven outof their lives.
You need to keep that oil inyour lamp to keep you burning
bright in this dark hour.
So therefore you are notdeceived by what is going on

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because this is a time of greatdeception.
My goodness, if there's everbeen a time we need oil, it's
now so we can burn bright.
And we need to keep that love inour hearts because we don't want
the coldness and the darkness ofthis world to invade into our
lives and keep the sin and theleaven out of your life.
Leaven is anything that depletesyour passion for the things of

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miss an episode and hear whatGod is saying prophetically in
this moment.
So I am so glad you've tuned in,and I have a special, special
treat.
I'm getting ready to bring mybuddy on my covenant brother.
We went to school back at WorldHarvest in 1998.
I met this wonderful man of God.

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You know, some people come andgo in and out of your life, but
this man has been with me, andI've been with him since 1998.
Think about that, y'all.
1998.
That means we have known eachother.
Think about this for a minute.
For now, 27 years I've knownthis man.
27 years.
I mean, that is amazing.

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And we're still friends.
He's speaking at my church.
I speak at his church.
Matter of fact, he's going to beup here in October.
I believe it is October 16th.
He's going to be preaching onlive television at Cornerstone
Television Network.
So this is just to give y'all alittle appetizer of what is
coming.
He's such a phenomenal man ofGod.
I mean, God has used him in suchpowerful ways.

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He has spoken words over mylife, over our ministry that
have come to fruition.
He's a pinpoint prophet.
He's a man of God that has awonderful wife and family
traveling.
Just dropped a new single calledMy Year of Favor, doing some
awesome things.
And we are so glad to have himtonight here on Dimensions.
Overseer Liddell Cole, welcometo the Dimensions platform.

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It is so good to have you heretonight.

SPEAKER_00 (04:41):
Man, what's going on, Pastor Jay, my covenant
brother, man?
Listen, with an introductionlike that, man, I don't know if
I can follow that.
You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 (04:51):
Well, you know, it's easy to talk about people that
are doing it well, man.
And I love you and appreciateyou.
You know that.
And uh you're such a wonderfulman of God.
And, you know, you've heard thisstatement, and we both have
shared it from time to time.
If you have uh a handful offriends, you're a very rich man.
And you are one of those people.
You and your wife, you know, ourmy wife and I, we love you guys
to life.
And uh, man, we're just sothankful for y'all.

SPEAKER_00 (05:14):
Absolutely, man.
You know, the feeling is mutual.
This is not something we just dopublicly, we do it privately.
That's right.
So our families get together.
We we we love on each other, wereach out to each other, you
know, and and and that's what Ilove about a covenant.
But I told him when I was downthe criteria, I said, you are my
covenant brother.

SPEAKER_01 (05:32):
Yeah, man.
And you've been just that.

SPEAKER_00 (05:34):
So thank you, man, for having, man.
It's an honor to be onDimensions.

SPEAKER_01 (05:38):
Dimensions, y'all.
And it's so good to have you onhere.
And, you know, I love talkingwith you, even when we're on the
phone or chit-chatting back andforth.
It's always a time ofedification.
And I'm so glad that we get anopportunity to let the people
kind of get in on what a phonecall is kind of like with us.
And every time we're on thephone, I mean, it just it's like
popcorn, man.
Revelation begins to flow.

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And uh bringing you on here, Isaid I wanted you just to begin
to share uh just what the Spiritof the Lord has put uh into your
heart and what you've beensensing uh in this day and hour.
And you just take your libertyto flow as you feel led.
But uh, why don't you just kindof start us off and what's God
really been speaking to you uhright now for all the way from
Tampa?

SPEAKER_00 (06:17):
Absolutely.
We're here in the beautifulTampa, Florida.
Um, and again, I just also wantto say thank you, man, for
having me on.
It's definitely an honor.
Um, my wife and I, we love youand Tiff and your beautiful
children.
So we're excited, man, of whatGod is doing in this hour.
Um, and here in Tampa, Florida,we are right here.
Um, I always tell everybody youcome to Florida, you would get

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bit by the Florida bug.
And you would listen, I itlisten, Pastor Jay has been bit,
you know, so he's been backseveral times.

SPEAKER_01 (06:46):
Yes.
I'm gonna be down there nextFriday.

SPEAKER_00 (06:49):
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (06:51):
For another week.

SPEAKER_00 (06:53):
He was just here not too long ago.
Now he's back again.
You know, I told him, I said,you're gonna get bit by the
Florida bug.

SPEAKER_01 (06:58):
You know, but I came down there in July.
I came down there in July.
I was just down there for mybirthday in September, and now
I'm going back again in October.
I've been to Florida three timesfor three full weeks, pretty
much, in the last three months.
So yeah, that the bug has bittenme, and uh, I'm coming back for
more.

SPEAKER_00 (07:16):
Listen, the the the it's it's it it's it's okay.
We we we we I understand, trustme.
We got bit, my wife and I, wegot bit 20 years ago, uh,
because we've been married forcoming up on 21 years.
Can you believe that?

SPEAKER_03 (07:28):
Wow, that's it.

SPEAKER_00 (07:28):
I'm about to be a pastor Tanya, and uh, we got bid
and we listen, we just here anduh we letting all our other
friends get bid, amen.
So, but but we're excited.
No doubt.
We are right here, one churchTampa.
Um, we pastor the greatestchurch, um, other than you know,
another level.
You know what I'm saying?
Come on, somebody.

SPEAKER_01 (07:46):
But we're the greatest.
Come on, somebody.

SPEAKER_00 (07:48):
Here in Tampa, Florida.
Here in Tampa, Florida.
One church, Tampa.
Um, you know your pastor lovesyou guys.
Thank you so much uh for yoursupport and what you do um here
to make ministry easy.

SPEAKER_02 (08:00):
Amen.

SPEAKER_00 (08:00):
Um and but what the Lord is saying, what the Lord is
saying, man, listen, I'm gonnatell you something.
Um the Lord always stirs me upevery year.
Every year, God stirs me up.
Matter of fact, um, and I sharedthis with you, uh, usually
around November, December, Ishut down at the end of the

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year, and I go on a sabbatical,um, I lock away, and I just, you
know, hear from God.
Uh, because how many of y'allknow you you need a word from
God?
That's right.
One word from God can changeyour entire life.
And um, and I'm very seriousabout that, Pastor J, because as
a man of God, you can't just getup and just say anything.

SPEAKER_03 (08:43):
That's right.

SPEAKER_00 (08:44):
Um, you gotta say what's on the heart of God.
And I take that very seriously.
So I go on a sabbatical, um,usually a whole entire month,
and I just want to get in thepresence of God and hear what
God is saying.
Um, and I believe that he spoketo me uh for this year um in
2025.
Uh the word of the Lord thatcame to me was this is the year

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to rise.
Year to rise.
Um, and he gave me the acronymfor rise.
Um, it was the R is to reflect.
The I is to is to uh let me see,let's say, reflect.
Yeah, the R is the reflect, theimage, the I is the image, and
then this S is the sun, S-O-N,and uh the E uh is in the earth.

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So that's the acronym for rise,reflect the image of the sun
into the earth.
And uh we begin to share that uhwith our people.
Um and I really believe it's aglobal word because the Bible
declares in Isaiah chapter 16,you know this, that he says that
the glory of the Lord is goingto come upon us.
He's going to come upon us whengross darkness covers the earth.

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And he said, My light and myglory is going to come upon you,
I'm gonna shine on you so thatthey can see, you know, the good
works that you are doing andglorify the Father which is in
heaven.
And how many of you know thelight is not for us, it's for to
be reflected out to the world.
And that's something we begin todeclare um to our people, to our
church.

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And uh I begin to releasespecific prophecies, prophetic
words.
Um, you know, sometimesprophecies, what I've learned is
that sometimes they can beimmediate.
You know, when you give a word,it could be like boom, you know,
where it can happen in 24 hoursor 40 hours.
And sometimes um that word canbe something futuristic, you

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know, something to come,something that's getting ready
to happen.
And um, I wanted you to sharewith the people some of the
things that the Lord began tospeak to me that is literally,
Pastor J, is happening rightnow.
And I released that word inJanuary of this year, and
they're already coming, it'sunfolding right now before our

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very eyes.
Um, one specific thing that Iknow that you I know you're
gonna share here shortly andread it, but one of the things
that really stuck out to me umwas the mental thing.
Uh, one of the things the Lordbegan to share with me is that
we have to be careful of howlong we spend on devices because
it's doing things to our brainsand it's causing some mental

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instabilities, and it's causingpeople to go into great
depression.
Um, it's causing people tocommit suicide and things of
that nature.
And we did uh document where thenews, I said that the news is
gonna start talking about that,the news did start talking about
that at the beginning of theearly part of the year, uh,
where it was talking aboutpeople are having mental issues

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and stuff because of spendingtoo long time on devices and um
internet and things like thatthat can consume our brain.
Um, so that was one thing.
And then another thing uh was uhI had prophesied about R.
Kelly.
I talked about him and I said,pray for R.
Kelly.
Um I said, because he's gonnaneed Jesus this year.

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And um we see what happened tohim.
Um and so it's so many thingsthat's in this prophetic word
that's begin to come to pass.
I just want you to real briefly,if you can put it up on the
screen and just if you can justread it out just real quick, and
just share with the listeners sothey can hear what the prophetic
word of the Lord was for 2025,if you can.

SPEAKER_01 (12:27):
Indeed.
Yes.
It says the glory of God will bereleased in a great way.
It will cover the earth like ablanket, and sinners will run to
Jesus.
I saw a blackout, like where allthe computers collapsed at once.
This will be seen on the news.
Parents monitor your kids onelectronics as well as yourself.
There's some damages it causedto our brains that can lead to
mental illness, major migraines,and even deaths.

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This will also be seen on thenews, says God.
I saw several diseases beingfound in animals that will
surface, so be mindful of whatwe are consuming in our bodies.
Focus on your health like neverbefore.
This year, discipline yourselfon what you're eating, how much
sugar and carbs you intake.
I saw a lot of illness, evendeaths happening from being
undisciplined in our bodies.

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Be mindful of eating out atrestaurants and fast food places
too often.
God showed me the food is notbeing cooked and prepared
properly due to the demand andsupply shortage.
It's causing a lot of sicknessesand even deaths.
Do more home cooked meals thanever before, says God.
Lean into God this year likenever before for you and your
family, because it will pay offin a major way.

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Pray for former President BillClinton and his health.
I saw his health declining and atransition coming.
Let's pray hard for him.
Pray for P.
Diddy, R.
Kelly, and Jay-Z.
I saw them losing their mindsand wanting to commit suicide.
They need Jesus, ASAP.
I know Diddy's feeling thatright now.
He better be feeling themprayers too.
Uh, let's pray hard for theirsouls to be saved.

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Pray for travel and planes,because I saw a lot of
electronic failures, which wehave seen this year, multiple.
Yes.
Uh multiple failures that willcause crashes and deaths this
year at an alarming rate.
We can stop it with prayer.
Amen.
I see a great wealth transfercoming to God's people and his
church that will help fund thekingdom agenda and win more
souls.
This is our mandate for theblessing being released.

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Amen.
I saw talks with Korea, Russia,China, Iraq, Iran, and others
trying to form an alliance toattack America, Israel, and
Christians pray for God to spoiltheir plans.
I saw in a dream people aremurdering people.
I mean, in the middle of broaddaylight, you take a look at the
thing with Charlie Kurt.
I mean, that's definitely one ofthem right there.
Yeah.
No regard to human life.
This is demonic driven, and wemust pray against the spirit of

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murder.
And I saw several terroristattacks causing deaths and cyber
attack breaches happening morethan ever.
Our line of defense in Americais weakened due to sin.
We must repent and pray forGod's protection over us.
Wow.

SPEAKER_00 (14:44):
Wow.
Isn't that powerful?
I mean, these things wereuttered at the beginning of this
year.
And I don't, I don't, PastorJay, I don't, you, and you know
this about me.
I'm I'm I don't proclaim to be aprophet.
I don't have a prophet title.

SPEAKER_03 (15:00):
Oh, you got it though.

SPEAKER_00 (15:01):
I have never done that.
I have never done that in all mywell, I I started preaching when
I was 12 years old.
I've never done that.
And it just flows through me.
I don't know.
It's like God told me, He said,Whatever you say, son, I'm gonna
back it up.
And I when he I remember I wasin prayer, he told me that.
And I literally, it it scares mebecause anytime that comes on

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me, I I shake in fear because Iwant to make sure that whatever
I'm saying, I'm speaking whathe's saying.
That's how serious I take it.
But yeah, um, it's just amazing,man, what God is in, and this is
every year.
Every year, if anybody wanna goback to our Facebook or anything
like that, you will see words ofthe Lord that I released at the

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beginning of the year thatunfolded within that year.
And like one of the ones aboutthe plane, you know, like all
these planes are falling out ofthe sky, crashing into one
another.
We we've never seen that happenlike that.
And so this is just to let thepeople know that God is real.
Um, and there's nothing thattakes God by surprise.

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Nothing in this world, nothingin this earth takes God.
It may take us, it may take youby surprise, but it ain't gonna
take you by surprise.
And that's why you need prophetsin the in the earth to be able
to warn, to be able to awaken,right?
Uh, and and to be able to givethat clearing call.
And one of the things that Iknow right now, Pastor Jay,

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that's been really burning, Imean, deep in my heart.
And I've been pastoring for nineyears now, Pastor Jay.
We planted the ministry fromscratch, but I've never felt
this burning sensation aboutsouls like like I have just
recently.
And uh we've been, uh we justlaunched a soul-winning campaign
at our church.
Uh, matter of fact, tomorrowwe're doing a huge soul-winning

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outreach where we're just gonnago out there, take over a
community, and go knock on doorsand ask people that can we pray
for you?
Um, and the Lord has beenstirring in my heart because I
really believe, Pastor Jay, withall of my heart, that Jesus is
on his way back.
Amen.
He is soon to return.
And the scripture, and ifanybody's a student of scripture

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and read the read the Bible, youwill see that these things that
Jesus has told us are coming topass literally before our eyes,
right?
We talk about this, Pastor Jay,all the time.
Yeah.
That we read this talk.
What you just said in thebeginning about the deception,
right?
How the first thing Jesus said,be not deceived.

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Because deception is gonna come,and we've seen deception sweep
the land.
But one of the things that theLord has been refocusing me is
back on souls.
And I'm gonna be honest withyou, Pastor J.
Being a young pastor and you'replanning a ministry and you're
you're trying to grow theministry and you're trying to
help people, and you try to beeverything for people, you know.

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Everybody has a need, right?
Everybody has a need, andeverybody's need is urgent.
But sometimes you can get caughtup in that as a pastor.
You can get caught up in theday-to-day shepherding, you know
what I mean?
That sometimes you forget aboutthe one.

SPEAKER_03 (18:09):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (18:09):
You forget about the one.
And you know, in scripture ittalks about in Luke chapter 15,
um, I believe it's verse fourthrough seven, talks about that
lost sheep, right?
And I'm sure you preached itseveral times.
And it talks about leaving the99 and going after the one.
And God has been burning that inmy heart.
And I don't know if it's thereason why he told me to start

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the church and say one churchtampa and change the name, but
he's really been burning in myheart about that one.
You know, really um thinkingabout the person that is
hurting, that person that iswondering, right?
That person that's out therethat may never darken the door
of a church, right?
Um, and and and and are wereally um having that passion?

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Because the Bible says that whenJesus was here in the earth, you
know, his purpose was the cross.

SPEAKER_03 (18:59):
That's right.

SPEAKER_00 (19:00):
His purpose was to get to that cross to die for us.
So the other stuff that happenedwas done out of compassion.
He was moved with compassion toheal, right?
And to cast out devils and allthose things along the way.
Um, but I believe, Pastor Jay,with all my heart, a lot of
leaders, a lot of people,Christians, have lost the
passion.

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We've lost that drive to go getsouls.
We've lost that um that thathunger, you know, to see people
get saved and restored andbrought back um to the things of
God.
So that's where my heart is.
That's where my passion is, ormy drive is.
Um, and uh, that's what the Lordis saying to us right now, um,

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is to go after that one.
Um, the Matthew 28, nine, uh,and I believe it's Matthew 28,
19, the Great Commission.
The first thing Jesus said was,go, go, you know?
And I believe, I believe we'rein that action word right now as
a church.
As we look around the landscape,right?
How everything is transparent,pirring, uh, from the Charlie

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Kirk, from all the other thingsthat are happening, that's up
rival, that's the upheaval thatis happening.
I believe with all my heart,these things are happening so
that people can turn back toGod.
Amen.
And uh, and as a leader, as ashepherd, we have to stand up in
this hour and be that light, goafter the one, and be willing to

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leave the 99.
Be willing to be willing to say,hey, you know what?
We cool, but we got to go getthat person out there that
that's that's hurting.
So that's where my heart is,Pastor Jay.

SPEAKER_01 (20:38):
Wow.
You know, that's amazing, man.
You know, and the scripture youand I were kind of chopping it
up a little bit before.
I'm gonna read it in Matthew 9,uh, verse 35 through 38.
It says, Then Jesus went aboutall the cities and villages
teaching in their synagogues,preaching the gospel of the
kingdom, and healing everysickness and every disease
amongst the people.
Matter of fact, Pastor, youknow, I really saw this and I

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was like, you know what?
That's where the church hasfallen in love with.
We love the mega, we love thebig conferences, we love the big
platforms, we love the light,smoke, fog.
I'm not opposed to any of that.
That's just incomplete ministry.
But look here at verse 36.
I think it's amazing.
Now he healed them everydisease.
We have healing uh uh services,we've got healing conferences,

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we've got pastoral conferences.
But when he saw the multitudes,he was moved with compassion for
them because they were weary andscattered like sheep having no
shepherd.
You know, one of the thingsoverseer that God put upon my
spirit is that in this day andhour, we have become so
accustomed to the mega ofministry and to the big platform

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and being on television andflying in the private jets while
the people are weary, scattered,and have no shepherd in their
life.
And it's amazing that people canbe healed and delivered and set
free, but still be weary andhave no shepherd.
And he says in verse 37, uh, hesaid to his disciples, the
harvest is plentiful, but thelaborers are few.
Therefore, pray the Lord of theharvest to send out labors into

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his harvest.
You know, and as you're talkingabout winning the loss, I am
right with you.
And the Lord spoke this to me.
He said, Jay, the reason why youdon't see more souls being saved
is because we're no longermaking disciples.
You can tell when a person ismaturing because now they can
procreate.
The problem is we got a lot ofthree, four, five, six, seven,

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eight-year-olds in the church.
No one's hitting puberty.
And so they don't have anability to reproduce because no
one's developing them.
So they're in the church foryears, but there is an ability
to grow them and develop them,and they don't have the capacity
or the ability to multiply.
But I love what you're sayingbecause you know, you're talking
about getting back to the one.
That's one of the things thatwe've been focusing on in our

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ministry.
We're making it my prayer is,overseer, is that we get to a
point where if you're not beingdiscipled with one-on-one
discipleship, that you're anoddball.
You know, it ain't like, well,what are you doing?
Get discipled.
Like, we think discipleship isfor people that need help or
people that need, like, youknow, crisis discipleship is
what I'll call it.
You know, we decide people whenthey're in a crisis versus just

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growing them every day thattheir heart gets larger and
larger, and then they begin todevelop a capacity for more of
the grace of God, more of theanointing of God, more of the
blessing.
And then as a result, when theygo out, they're not ashamed of
the gospel because they're sofull of the power of God, and
then they have the ability toreach out to the one.
So as you were talking, I'mlooking at this scripture
saying, God said, How do you seethe multitudes?

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It's amazing.
People see the multitudes as anopportunity for ministry.
Jesus saw them weary, scattered,and having sheep is having no
shepherds.
So I'm totally with you.
I feel like we need to get backto that, and every believer
needs to be discipled until thepoint where you can go and
duplicate yourself and somebodyelse.

SPEAKER_00 (23:46):
Listen, you stir me up, Pastor Jay.
You are stirring me up.
Listen, listen, man, listen,that is so powerful.
That is so powerful because whathas happened, exactly what you
have what you just uttered, isthat we have gotten so caught up
in the hype.
We've gotten so caught up ingrowth tracks and and and and

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trying to do growth strategiesand trying to meet budgets.
Exactly.
And listen, like you said,there's nothing wrong with
conferences.
We're not at all conferences.
Conferences have its place.
Conferences are necessary.
But what happens is whenconferences become the only
focus, then we have lost focus.

(24:28):
Yeah.
Because the reality is it's allabout the soul.
You see what I'm saying?
Come on.
Because how many people come toconferences and they come in one
way and they leave the same way.
They don't get changed, right?
They still go back to alcohol,they still go back to drugs,
right?
They'll have that praise breakand shout and then shout right
back into the bar.

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You know, and so we we have towe have to get observant.
You said something that was sopowerful.
What do we see?
What do we see?
Do you know how powerful thatis?
I'm gonna show you something.
In John chapter four, versenumber 35.
Jesus said, Lift up your eyes.
Yeah, yeah, that's good.

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Look.
Wow.
He said, Because the fields arealready ripe for harvest.
What do we see?
Wow, that's good.
What do we see?
That's good.
He said, Don't say that it ain'tno harvest.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
He said, What are you seeing?
What are you looking at?
I'm gonna share, I'm gonna sharea story with you, and I'm gonna
try not to cry.
I'm gonna try not to cry.

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But when I was about eight ornine years old, Pastor, I don't
think I've ever shared this withyou.
Um and I'm gonna share with yourlisteners on Dimension.
But I was a nine years old, andI would never forget, we were in
Fort Wayne, Indiana, um, with myfamily.
My dad was preaching a revivalin Fort Wayne, Indiana.
And it was me, uh, my mother,um, and my two brothers.

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And we were at the hotel.
It was just me, my mom, and mytwo brothers at the hotel, and
we were out there swimming.
And um, my dad, I think he wasthere at the church.
They were doing some pre-work orwhatever like that.
Um, but we were all out therejust having fun.
My mom was laying there on oneof them little layout things or
whatever like that.

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And I was in on the side of thepool, Pastor Jay.
And um, I didn't know how toswim.
I was eight years old and I wasjust dangling my feet.
Dangling my feet in the water,right?
And my brothers, my twobrothers, they were in the pool
and they were playing.
They were playing Marco Polo.
I'll never forget this.
They were playing Marco Polo andthey were having a whole bunch

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of fun.
And all of a sudden, Pastor Jay,I I moved my leg, and the next
thing I know, I slipped and I Ifell into the water, and I
didn't know how to swim, and Iwould and all the water started
coming in my mouth andeverything, and I began to
drown.
Right there.
I began to drown.

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And the only thing I remember isI was laying on my back and my
mother was pushing on my stomachto try to get the water out.
But why am I sharing this story?
I almost died because watch mybrothers were playing and having

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fun.
They were playing Marco andPolo.
They wasn't they weren'tobserving to what I was doing
over there.
But watch this.
I had a good mama.
I had a mama, and she lifted upher eyes and she looked.
And she said, My son is not atthe place that he was.

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Something ain't right.
And because she was willing to,I feel the Holy Ghost, because
she was willing to look, PastorJ, while everybody else was
playing around, while everybodyelse was having fun, while
everybody else was having theirconferences, while everybody
else was having their churchservice, while everybody else
was having their praise break.
Come on, somebody.
She was willing to look, andbecause she looked, it saved my

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life.
Because if she never would havelooked and picked me up, she
came and picked me up.
She told me the story.
She came and picked me up outthat water, put me on that
thing, and pumped that water outof me.
And I'm alive today because shelooked.
I'm alive today because she wasobservant.
I thank God for a praying mama.

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Come on, somebody.
And some of y'all right now needto take a moment and thank God
for a praying mama and a prayingfather.
Come on, somebody.
Somebody who is not caught up inthemselves, but is willing to
look and see who's drowning.

SPEAKER_03 (28:42):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (28:43):
Who is drowning while we're having fun and
playing church?
Who is drowning?
Who's drowning?
Who needs who needs attention?
And listen, I wouldn't be heretoday, Pastor J, if my mom would
have never looked.
And I really believe we needmore mothers in the church.
We need more fathers in thechurch.
We need some people who wouldsay, you know what?

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I'm going to disciple you.
I'm going to mentor you.
I'm going to look.
I'm going to walk life with youbecause you're not going to
drown on my watch.
Come on, somebody.
You're not going to go back ondrugs on my watch.
No, no, no, no, no.
I don't care what everybody elseis doing.
No, you're going to get to whereGod says go.
And I thank God that my momlooked.
And if we as a church, aspastors, as leaders, as

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Christians, at the body ofChrist, if we would just take
that approach and say, you knowwhat?
I'm going to look.
I'm going to lift up my eyes.
Matter of fact, the Bible says,look up for our redemption's
draw.
Now everything is about looking.
Everything is about seeing.
Come on, somebody.
And when we look and we payattention and we get observant,
right?

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And not self observant, becausewhat we do a lot of times, we
get busy.
We get busy with life, right?
Everybody's busy right now.
Everybody got things on it.
You know, you got schedules, Igot scheduled.
Everybody's busy.
But the reality is who isavailable?
Who is available?
When God needs you to look, willyou stop and look?

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Come on, somebody.
When God needs you to go go tellsomebody about Jesus, will you
be too busy to go be availableto go look and help somebody?
And that's what's been in myheart because man, listen, I
wouldn't be here today, PastorJ, if my mom did not look.

SPEAKER_03 (30:25):
Wow.

SPEAKER_00 (30:26):
If she did not be observing.
And I'm telling you, I'm tryingnot to cry because my mom is
going on to be with the Lord.
So is my father going on to bewith the Lord.
But I had a praying mama.
I listen, my mom prayed me outof drugs, prayed me out of
alcohol, prayed me.
Come on, somebody, out theclubs.

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Because listen, I ain't alwaysbeen saved.
I ain't always been there, okay?
I ain't always, you know, beenin a pulpit, you know, with a
Bible in my hand and a robe,okay?
That no, no, no, no, I waswayward.
I was backslidden.
And then still going to church.
I was still going to church,Pastor James, in a backsliding

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thing.
Mama would pray for me.
She, no matter what was goingon, what she saw in the natural,
she said, no, no, no, in thespirit, you're gonna be, you're
gonna come out.
And I never forget this, and I'mgonna be, I'm gonna shut up
because I'm getting the wholetime.
But but I'm gonna tell you this.
I never forget I came home onenight, Pastor J, and I was drunk

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as a skunk.
I was drunk as a skunk.
And I can't, I never forget it.
I was, I was probably like, Ithink I was like 16 years old,
something like that, and I hadgot drunk, and I came from the
club and I came into the houseand I, you know, snuck in, went
into that was and I was throwingup everywhere.
I went into the bathroom, I wasthrowing up over the toilet.
And then I went right into thebed.
And I said, Let me sneak intothe bed, and I felt so bad.

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Because LeBlanja's um, seeing,when it gets you, it'll make you
feel bad.
Come on, somebody.
Come on, somebody.
It'll mess your life allcompletely up, okay?
And I was messed up that night,and I said, Let me go to sleep,
let me drink, you know, I don'twant to wake nobody up.
I never forget.
I laid in that bed, Pastor J,and all of a sudden I heard this
little door crack.

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I was like, who's that comingin?
It was my mom.
She came in with a bottle ofoil.
Come on, somebody.
And I'll never forget this.
She took that oil while I waslaying in that bed and she put
it on my face, on my on myforehead, and she said, In the
name of Jesus, you coming out.
That's all she used to say.
In the name of Jesus, you comingout.
And listen, I will still go backout there and drink.

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And then she'll come back andshe'll put that oil on me and
say, In the name of Jesus,you're coming out.
But can I tell you something?
My mom is gonna be with theLord, Pastor Jane.
But I came out.
Come on, somebody.

SPEAKER_03 (32:43):
Come on.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (32:44):
You may die, but your prayers don't die.
Come on, somebody.
That's right.
That's right.
Your prayers is going to reachwhat it came to be uh to reach.
And I thank God that my momdidn't give up on me.
I thank God that she continuedto pray for me no matter what my
situation looked like.
And today I'm delivered.
I'm set free.

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Come on, I passed a greatchurch.
Come on.
I just got elevated to overseer.
Come on, somebody.
I've traveled the world.
Come on.
I've been in arenas withhundreds of thousands of people.
I've flown pro- Listen, God hasblessed me.
God has blessed me.
But at the end of the day, itall means nothing if we don't go
after that one.

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If we forget about the onethat's drowning.
So that's that's all I want tosay.
Let's not forget about the onethat's drowning, okay?
Um, and let's go after that oneand keep looking.
And God will show you who needshelp, who needs a word, who
needs a hug, who needs a smile,right?
Because God is love.
Amen.

SPEAKER_01 (33:44):
Amen, man.
That is so good.
You know, as you're talking,man, there's a whole lot of
things that kind of ran throughmy mind, you know.
I'm thinking about how a lot oftimes the reason why people
don't focus on the one becausethey were never focused on.
If you've never been the one,you don't know how to look for
the one.
And so what happens if we canbegin to start pouring into the
one, and let me say this forevery person watching.

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If you are not in a ministrywhere they're focusing on
growing you, but they're onlyfocused on growing their
ministry, you need to get intohouse because you are going to
miss your potential because youwill never become who God has
called you to be.
Because if you could make yourown self a disciple, Jesus
wouldn't have said, go and makedisciples because they can't

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make themselves.
And as you were talking, youwere talking about how they
were, your brothers were outthere playing, but then somebody
focused, your mother focused onthe one.
And now you're focusing on theone.
And a lot of people don't knowhow to look for the loss because
no one's ever matured them.
Now look at this uh overseer, 1Corinthians 13.
And I was thinking about thiswhen you said, how do we see?

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How do we see?
And I want to ask people rightnow, how do you see?
See, there are, I feel this, Ifeel the Holy Ghost right now.
There are things that God iscalling you to see that you're
not gonna be able to see untilyou get discipled.
The capacity of your calling isgreater than where you are.
But if you cannot see it, youcan't receive it.

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And it's amazing how, and thereason why I'm saying I want to
read this.
1 Corinthians 13.
When I was a child, I spoke as achild, and here's what I want to
get.
I understood.
Your perspective is based uponunderstanding.
You give one person fivedollars, they'll make five.
You get another person five,they'll lose five.
It's all about how youunderstand.

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Discipleship helps you tounderstand.
And it says, and I thought as achild, but when I became a man,
I put away childish things.
Discipleship, overseer, helpsour the body of Christ to begin
to take our eyes off ofourselves, off of what we want,
off of being childish, andputting it back on the one.

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Matter of fact, you gave aprophetic word here, and I want
to visit it again.
You said something reallyprofound.
Uh, you said, I see a greatwealth transfer coming to God's
people and his church that willhelp fund the kingdom agenda and
win more souls.
Listen, if you don't get to apoint where you get developed
and grow and become the man orwoman of God that God's called

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you to be, you can be in churchand be faithful and still not
mature.
My God.
You know, overseer, one of thethings the Lord revealed to me
through a friend of mine, hesaid to me something real
profound and it stuck with me.
He said, He said, We can'tpromote people based upon their
faithfulness.
Just because they're in churchdon't mean they got roots.
Just because they're in churchdon't mean they've developed,
don't mean they've grown.

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And you say, how do I tell ifI've grown and I've developed?
It's real simple.
Do you have the kingdom agenda?
And the Lord made this veryclear to me.
He said, those that will getback to my agenda, those that
will begin to disciple, thatwill be about the one.
He spoke to our church overseer,but I believe it's a kingdom
promise that people that willget back to the kingdom agenda,
focusing on the one, develop, bebecoming a disciple and going

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out winning the loss anddiscipling others.
He said, that church will lackfor nothing.
And God is no, let me prophesyright now.
God is no longer blessing peoplethat are doing their own thing.
The day of the mega ministry andthe mega superstar is over.
You're gonna see a great wealthtransfer hit to those that are

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focusing on souls and those thatare focusing on the loss and
those that are back to thekingdom discipleship.
As the church came in, so itwill go out.
It went out, it came in on thebacks of martyrs and
discipleship.
It will go out on the backs ofdiscipleship and martyrdom.
And this is the reality, ladiesand gentlemen.

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I want you to catch this.
Your breakthroughs, yourblessings, your miracles, God is
going to put a halt on thoseuntil we get back to the kingdom
agenda.
When you begin to get back tothe kingdom agenda of winning
the loss and being discipled andgrowing and developing and
duplicating yourself and othersand being about your father's
business, I hear the Spirit ofthe Lord saying, you will not

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even have to ask me for things.
I will automatically send themto you.
Things that you have prayed for.
And what would happen, Overseer?
Matthew 6.33.
Seek ye first the kingdom of Godand his righteousness.
And what?
All these things shall be added.
I feel an all-anointing comingright now to some of you that if
you will get back todiscipleship, you will get back

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to winning the loss.
God says you are going to seeprayers answered.
Your family members are going tobe saved.
God's going to begin to open updoors of ministry, and I'm going
to pass it to you, Overseer,because one of the things as you
were talking that the Lorddropped in my spirit was this.
He said, I will no longer givemy platform to those that won't
visit my people in the pit.
If you won't go down and visitthe one in the pit, Overseer,

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God's not going to give theplatform.
Before him, the platform was forthe multitudes.

SPEAKER_00 (38:47):
Yes.

SPEAKER_01 (38:48):
That was the Moses generation.
They went up and everybody said,Moses, Moses, Moses.
This is the Joshua generation,y'all.
Everybody's important overseer.
Now you got me stirred up inhere.
My good God Almighty.
Go ahead and take it and runwith it.
Take it.
I'm going to pass the baton.

SPEAKER_00 (39:00):
I just preached this past uh Sunday.
I said, no one left behind.

SPEAKER_03 (39:05):
No one left behind.

SPEAKER_00 (39:06):
Everybody is valuable to God.
And when Jesus was here, why doyou think he preached kingdom?
That's all he talked about.
That's all he's talking about.
He preached kingdom becausethat's what it's all about.
And this is what the Lord toldme.
And I'm going to go back toIsaiah 60 because this is
powerful, because this I believewhat's happening right now.
Arise and shine for the lighthas come, and the glory of the

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Lord has risen upon thee.
Gross darkness shall cover theearth and the people, but my
glory shall be seen upon thee.
This is what the Lord told me.
You would know the differencebetween the two people.
When his light comes, you willeither reflect it or absorb it.
Wow.
I feel like running.

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I feel like running.
I feel like running all overthis place.
Come on.

SPEAKER_03 (39:56):
Come on.

SPEAKER_00 (39:57):
This is what he said.
This is how you're going to knowthe difference.
You were talking about how Godis moving his people out and
stuff like that.
What's happening is if thatlight comes, you got you only
going to do one or two things.
You're either going to reflectit so that it's not about you.
You're reflecting the image ofthe Son of Jesus Christ in the
earth, or you're going to absorbit.

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You're going to say it's allabout me.
They coming because of me,because I'm so anointed.
Because I can preach so good.
Because I, because I can teachso good.
Because that's an absorber.
That's what happened withLucifer.
He absorbed the light.
And that's why he fell.
There's a falling on theMoshanda.
There's a falling to absorbersthat's coming.

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My God, you would know thedifference.
You would know.
And it's happening right now.
It's happening right now.
It is.
That's what's happening.
Those that are absorbing thelight and thinking it's about
them, they have liftedthemselves up.
And remember John the Baptist,he was our greatest example.
What did he say?
He said, I am not the light.
He said, I am not the light inJohn.

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He said, There's one that'scoming that's greater than I.
And he says, not shoes that I'mnot worthy to even wear.
I'm not even worthy to do this.
He said, it's about that person.
He reflected it.
Even though the people werecoming to him.
They were coming to him.
He was out there, he was outthere healing, doing everything.
But he reflected it back on theone.
He reflected it back on the oneJesus, the Lamb of God.

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And this is what the Lord issaying.
I don't care how much oil I goton your life.
I don't care how much glory Irelease on you.
Don't you dare absorb it.
Don't you dare take my glory.
Full shot.
Don't you dare take my glory.
Don't you dare touch it.
Come on, it belongs to God.
And that's where we're going tosee the difference.
That's the separation.
Because what an absorber,they're going to fall.

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They're going to fall.
God is going to get that.
Then that's what's happened tothe mega ministries.
Because the mega ministries,they think it was about them.
They're building an empire.
They think that's, oh, thepeople coming because of me.
Because of my marketing so good.
The people that come in becauseI my live stream is so good.
But let me tell you something.
And Pastor Tay knows this.
We just, and then it's not thatnot to say to knock anything.

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This is something the Lord toldme to do.

SPEAKER_03 (42:09):
Come on.

SPEAKER_00 (42:10):
He said, in the summertime, he said, turn off
the live, turn off the stream.
This is what he told us.
He said, turn it off.
And I said, well, why?
He said, just do what I tell youto do.
Turned off.
I said, but people ain't gonnacome.
If they, you know, they ain'tgonna come, they're gonna think
we have the church.
And I was like, you know how youhave a conversation with God?
Yeah, oh yeah, without a doubt.
I said, that don't make nosense, man.
We've been live forever.

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He said, turn it off.
He said, trust me, turn it off.
And I turned it off, Pastor.
I obey God.
Yeah.
Can I tell you something?
The last couple of months, wehaven't had a seat in the in the
sanctuary.
Wow.
And I'm not kidding you.

SPEAKER_03 (42:49):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (42:49):
Jam-packed with the live off.

SPEAKER_03 (42:53):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (42:53):
And what the Lord began to tell me, and I want to
I want to say this because whatthe Lord has been again to tell
me is that there's a differencebetween encounter and
experience.
That's a big difference.
And what he told me says, we'vebeen so focused on creating an
experience for people.
Wow.
We got to have everythingtogether.
We got to have kids' ministry.

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We got to have parking lotattendance.
We got to make sure that thelive is right.
We got to make sure that thesound is right because we're
trying to create experience.
And I'm not saying there'snothing bad about that because I
believe that you should putexcellence out there for the
kingdom of God.
But when your focus is onlycreating experience, then you
miss the encounter.
And what has happened is peopleare coming to churches now,

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getting experience.
They get an experience, butthey're not getting an
encounter.
Because the last time I checked,when Saul was persecuting the
church, killing Christians.
Come on, somebody.
Hallelujah.
He was on the road of Damascus.
He just didn't get anexperience.
He had an encounter with Jesus.
And because of his encounter,the Bible says he was

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immediately converted and henever went back killing
Christians.
Come on.
You should always know whensomebody has had a true
encounter when they don't goback to it.
Come on, somebody.
When you don't go back to thedrugs, when you don't go back to
killing for, when you don't goback to backbiting, when you
don't go back to it, when youhave truly had an encounter with
Jesus, not just an experience.

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Come on.
It's a conversion, not justconviction.
Hallelujah.
And God said, I'm bringingencounters back to my house
again.
Where people are gonna be sohungry, Pastor.
I'm telling you what I knowprophetically.
I feel this by the Holy Ghost.
They're gonna beat the pastorsto church.
Hallelujah.
They're gonna be sitting therewaiting at the door before you.

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I'm telling you, there's anencounter, there's a hunger
that's getting ready to hit thischurch, the body of Christ like
never before.
I'm telling you what I know.
The Bible declares that blessedhe who hungers and thirsts after
righteousness, for they shall befilled.
God says, I'm getting ready tofeel my people again.
I'm getting ready to feel myhouse again.
I'm getting ready to bring suchan encounter again.

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But you have to focus on whatI'm doing in this hour and not
just on yourself.
It's not a self-absorbent thing,but it's a reflection thing.
And God says, when you come inwith that, an encounter will
happen, and I will fill yourhouse, I will feel your church,
I will feel I turned the liveoff and God filled it because I

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obeyed him.
You see, everything is inobedience to God.
And sometimes you got to goagainst the grain.
Sometimes you got to do thingsthat's not popular.
Come on, somebody.
Because when God tells you to doa thing, he knows why he's
telling you to do it.
And I'm telling you, there's atrue encounter, Pastor J, that's
getting ready to hit the body ofChrist like never before.

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And they're gonna come in.
I'm telling, I already see it.
I see them coming in and doingintercession.
They're gonna come in, they'regonna want to pray, they're
gonna lay on the altar beforeservice even start.
Come on, somebody, before youeven get into praise and
worship, they're gonna bewalking the same, because
they're gonna want the encounterwith God.
When we as leaders get the thethe culture back to that place

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where it's not just about anexperience, but it's about an
encounter of God.
I want to see him.
Come on.
I want to see his train of hisrobe, fill the temple.
I want the glory of God to comein here, the kabbat of God so
strong that it just knock us allout.
Amen.
To where you can't even get upand preach.
I remember when you was here,you brought your notes, but you
didn't go to not one of them onno.

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You man, look, when you got upthere, you got that bike phone.
You just, I mean, the the goodthat's the kabod, that's the
glory of God.
That's the shakina of God, andthat's what God is saying.
It ain't gonna be just you readnotes.
Come on, some of y'all pastors,I feel it's about the Holy
Ghost.
You need to toss your notes outthere because you are focused on
an agenda and not the kingdomagenda.

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It's not about your good sermon,it's not about your three points
in the poem.
It's about the flow of God, andGod wants to flow back through
you, Pastor.
I don't know who you are, but Ifeel it by the Holy Ghost.
There are many pastors that arewatching right now.
God wants to flow back in youagain.
It's okay.
It's okay to allow to yield tothe Holy Spirit and allow him to
do it.

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And watch it, watch this.
When you yield to the HolySpirit, he could do more in a
matter of 60 seconds than itwould have taken you 60 days to
do in your ministry.
He will, he just showed me that.
He showed me that.
And I'm telling you what I know.
If you yield to God and you doit his way, not your way, do it

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his way, the kingdom's way.
When he speaks, you open yourmouth and you release.
When he tells you to flow, youflow.
I don't care if it comes on onesong.
You get into worship, let theone song go.
Come on, somebody.
If look, if the anointing hitthat song, you let it flow in
that song, and you ain't got toget up and preach.
Because when God does what hewants to do, he knows more than
what we know.

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And I'm telling you, it'sgetting ready to hit the
churches and the body of Christlike never before.
In Jesus' mighty name.

SPEAKER_01 (47:57):
My good God.
Now listen, man, I got theyou're passing the baton back
right now.
And that's why I told y'all it'sgonna happen.
I knew this was gonna take placein here.
Uh, you know, when you mentionedabout Saul's conversion, yeah.
I want to read this because whenyou said that, my mind went to
the passage there in Actschapter 9.
And I'm not gonna read throughthe whole thing, but basically
we know the story that a lightshines down, and then the Lord

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speaks to him, says, and hesays, uh uh, he says, Who are
you, Lord?
And the Lord says, I am Jesuswhom you are persecuting.
It's hard for you to kickagainst the goads or against the
prick.
So he trembling and astonishedsaid, Lord, what do you want me
to do?
It said, Arise, go into thecity, and you will be told what
you must do.
This is the encounter, PastorLadell.
It's not just what you hear,it's what you see.

(48:40):
Now, let me show you what I meanby this.
And the men who journeyed withthem stood speechless.
They heard a voice, but they sawno one.
Saw, saw, and what he sawbrought him a conversion.
Encounters bring conversions.
Experience leave you complacent.

(49:01):
So you have to understandthere's a difference between the
two that'll preach right there,Pastor.
Uh encounters will lead toconversions in your life.
So he was changed into what hesaw.
And the reason why I'm sayingthis, uh uh, Pastor Liddell, you
know, one of the things the Lordspoke to me, he said, for far
too long, the anointing has beenin the pulpit.

(49:22):
And he has squelched theanointing in the pulpits,
waiting for the people.
Let me explain what I mean.
What the Lord spoke to me wasthis He said, It's not that my
glory's not in the house.
It's not that my glory's notthere.
He said, But the problem is thepeople have all been waiting for
me to spoon feed them, waitingon the milk, waiting on somebody

(49:43):
to do it.
What I noticed, uh, overseer isthat as we have been discipling
the people, we were in thepulpit just this past weekend,
and my brother was up theredoing worship, and the anointing
shifted from him and me and wentto the people.
The people began to cry out andwe began to look at each other
like, well, we've never seenthis before.

(50:05):
And God says, I'm creating ahunger and a thirst for my
people.
God says, I'm tired of themlooking.
Watch this, ladies andgentlemen.
God's tired of you magnifyingthe pulpit.
He's tired of you magnifyingpersonalities, he's tired of you
magnifying people.
Now, y'all are gonna get me introuble right now because what's
been happening overseer is thatthe pulpit has been absorbing

(50:27):
the anointing.
Yeah.
And God is saying, I'm ready forthe people to begin to receive
my glory in their life.
He wants a people with acapacity that can house the
glory of God.
My goodness.
Y'all better hear what I'msaying.
That's why God, you got to be ina ministry where you're being
discipled, where you are beingdeveloped, where you're being

(50:48):
challenged, because God doesn'twant you looking to the pulpit.
He wants you looking into heavento receive what it is.
And God's ready to take Saul'sand change them to Paul's.
God's ready, God doesn't wantyou just to hear, He wants you
to see him personally so then hecan shift you from Saul to
becoming Paul.
And what we've done far toolong, Overseer is we're always

(51:09):
looking for the pulpit to giveto us.
I'm waiting for some man of God.
And I, Overseer, I've never hadthis happen.
I was in, I was sitting there inthe front row, my brother's
leading worship.
And afterwards, we didn't eventalk to each other about it, but
we knew something had happened.
And God spoke to me.
He said, if you will begin toget back to the one, he said,
the reason why there'll be nolack in your ministry is because

(51:30):
your people will startincreasing their capacity.
And what we're doing, we've gotto get to a point where people's
hearts get so large that theglory that's in the house, the
people can receive it and beable to go out and share it with
others.
And so as you were talking, Iwas like, wow, the Lord spoke to
me.
He said, People that haveencounters not only hear, but

(51:51):
they see and they're converted.
People that have experienceshear something, see nothing, and
become complacent.
My God.

SPEAKER_00 (52:00):
Moses, Moses, come over here to this burning bush.
He heard, and then he saw.
Come on.
Encounter.
It's encounters.
This is what the Lord is saying.
This is what the Lord is saying.
Encounters is coming back to myhouse again.

SPEAKER_03 (52:15):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (52:15):
True conversions happen.
True conversions happen.
And where now you will be ableto birth out sons and daughters
because now they have grown up.
Now they have matured.
I'm telling you, what you saidis so powerful about
discipleship because that is socritical.
It is so critical.

(52:37):
Somebody disciple me.
Somebody disciple me.
Right, right.

SPEAKER_01 (52:41):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (52:43):
They had to walk.
Listen, they had to walk with mebecause I had some days I was
in, I was out, you know.
I had my ups and downs.
Listen, my wife, my tell you,sometimes I'm crazy.
Okay, I just get I I'm crazynowadays, you know.
But I need somebody walking withwalking through with me.
Now, listen, I'm telling you,don't escape the discipleship
because discipleship bringsaccountability.

(53:05):
There's some people don't evenwouldn't even come to church if
they had accountability.
Come on, they wouldn't evencome.
That's why it's so important tofocus, and that's what it is.
You're focused on that one.
You're focused on that personsaying, no, we're gonna walk and
do life together.

SPEAKER_03 (53:18):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (53:18):
We're gonna do life together.
Oh, you were, oh, did you praythe other day?
No, let's get back on it.
Discipleship, getting down inthe scripture.
What does this mean?
You know, exeg exegeting thescripture, looking at things,
hermeneutics, interpretingscripture to scripture.
They need to understand the wordof God, right?
So they can so the Lord canspeak to them, right?

(53:40):
So these are all things that areso important, man.
And I believe, man, with all myheart, I really believe this,
that a true encounters arecoming back to the house of God
to where, like you said, itain't gonna be about who's in
the pulpit.
It ain't gonna be the thing.
It's gonna come from the people.
It's gonna come from the people.

(54:01):
Hallelujah to the Lamb of God.

SPEAKER_01 (54:03):
You know, overseer, as you're talking to, you know,
one of the things that the Lordspoke to my heart, he said, if
you'll get back to the kingdomagenda, get back to the one, he
said, you won't need now, watchthis.
We have replaced discipleshipwith counseling.
And everybody's always in aprayer line.
And the Lord says, You're notgonna need prayer lines like you
did, you're not gonna needcounseling like you did.

(54:24):
I think about people that needcounseling.
They always need counseling.
And what the Lord's point, wesaid, the problem is we're
trying to replace discipleship.
He said, if you will grow thatinner man, that spiritual man,
if you will grow them, thatinner man will eclipse what
happened to them in the old man.
But the problem is the the newman is so little, so now we got
to counsel, we got to talk aboutall these things.

(54:46):
Instead of just getting them toa point in that day.
Come on, somebody, Isaiahchapter 10, verse 27.
In that day, his burden will beremoved and the yoke will be
destroyed because of theanointing.
And the anointing is where youget fed.
That the the analogy of that iswhere you get fed so much that
you get so fat that the yokegets destroyed.
The only time you want to getfat is when you're in the

(55:07):
anointing.
You want to be fat in theanointing, that nothing can
constrain you and hold you.
And I really believe that,Overseer, that we are in a
season that I think we're gonnasee less healing lines.
When I say that for the church,for the church, less counseling
for the church, right?
Because people are gonna be sodeveloped that they're gonna
begin to break out and breakthrough.

(55:27):
And I'm already seeing it,Overseer, and I'm hearing a cry
come from the people.
And what it is is God is saying,Finally, my people have capacity
to receive the inheritance.
And if you don't grow, if youdon't get underneath
discipleship, if you don't getinto a good church that's
growing you and developing you,you will never experience the

(55:50):
inheritance of what God has foryour life.
My good God.

SPEAKER_00 (55:54):
Man, that's so powerful.
I'm gonna say this one lastthing, and I know I know we're
getting ready to wrap it uphere.
So I wanted to say this hungernever leaves us.
Hunger never leaves us.
The question is, what are youhungry for?

SPEAKER_03 (56:09):
That's good.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (56:11):
Last time I checked, all of us ate, right?
All of us gotta eat something.
What you eat like we have tohave an appetite for something.
So the question is, what are wehungry for?
And what you just said, when weget hungry for God, he fills us
to capacity where we become faton him, and watch, we lose the
taste for sin.

SPEAKER_03 (56:32):
Come on, come on.

SPEAKER_00 (56:33):
We lose the taste.
Look, and then he'll change yourvocabulary to otace and see that
the Lord is good.
Come on, come on, come on,somebody.
You tell her the truth, man.
You tell her the truth.
He would change your appetite,he would change your taste.
Come on, somebody.
When you get a good, a good doseof the Holy Ghost, come on, when

(56:56):
you get a good dose of thatglory and he fills you, and you
get hungry for him, you lose thetaste of sin.
You can't stomach sin becauseyou so fill off the Holy Ghost,
you so fill off the glory ofGod.
Come on, somebody.
And that's what discipleshipdoes.
That's what focusing on the onedoes.
It matures us, it fills us towhere we lose the taste of sin.

(57:20):
Wow.
We lose the taste of sin.
So all of us are hungry forsomething.
But the question is, what you'rehungry for?

SPEAKER_01 (57:26):
Hey, listen, I'm gonna put, I'm gonna take this
word, this prophecy that youmentioned, and I wanna put, I
don't want to say a twist, butan interpretation on it.
You said something.
We've been talking about, youknow, what you're ingesting,
what you're eating.
Focus on your health like neverbefore.
Discipline yourself on whatyou're eating.
Some of us need to stop eatingso much on media.
Stop, be careful of the teachingand the preaching.

(57:47):
Some of y'all need to leave thechurch that you're at because
they're feeding a bunch of junkfood to you.
It says be mindful the food isnot being cooked and prepared
properly.
I'm talking about spirituallyand naturally, due to the demand
and supply shortage.
It's causing a lot ofsicknesses.
It's causing a lot of deaths.
Do more home.
You got to find a good churchhome.
Some of y'all aren't beinghealed because you're not at a

(58:07):
church home.
You ain't got a home-cookedmeal.
You're trying to do takeout onmedia, trying to do takeout on
YouTube.
You got to get to a home-cookedmeal.
And he says this here.
He said, focus on your healthlike never before.
Discipline yourself on whatyou're eating, on how much carbs
and sugar.
And I saw a lot of illness, evendeath twice.

(58:27):
He said this happening frombeing undisciplined in our
bodies.
What is what is undisciplined?
Not being discipled.
Not being discipled.
Overseer, as always, man,whenever we come together, I
knew this was going to be fire,man.
Would you just take a minute?
I know we got to go.
I'm going to have to have youback for a part two soon.
I want you to take a minute andjust pray whatever God lays upon

(58:50):
your heart, and then we're goingto let you out of here.

SPEAKER_00 (58:52):
Absolutely.
I just want to pray for that onethat is listening right now.
You've been listening to thebroadcast, and you've been
saying, I'm that person that'sbeen drowning.
I'm that person nobody's beenfocused on.
I'm that person that's been outhere and it seems like nobody's
even thinking about me.
Well, guess what?
God is thinking about you today.

SPEAKER_03 (59:13):
Yes.

SPEAKER_00 (59:13):
You are valuable to God.

SPEAKER_03 (59:15):
Come on.

SPEAKER_00 (59:16):
You are valuable to God.
God loves you unconditionally.
Come on.
There's nothing that you havedone to where he will turn his
nose away from you.
He is so head over heels in lovewith you.
And he wants you to come back tohim.
I'm talking to a backsliderright now.

(59:37):
God is married to thebackslider.
He wants you to come home.
I'm talking to that prodigal sonright now.
You're in the mud, but you havecome to yourself tonight.
And you're saying, I want tocome home.
I'm tired of being sick andtired.
I'm tired of sin.
I'm tired of these habits andthese addictions that seem I

(59:58):
can't break it.
Can I tell you?
Something, the Spirit of theLord is here right now and He's
calling you home.

SPEAKER_03 (01:00:04):
Yes.

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:05):
I want to pray for you right now.
I want to pray for you rightnow, young girl.
I want to pray for you, youngman.
I want to pray for you.
And no matter what age you are,how young or old you are, you
are listening right now andyou're saying you're talking to
me.
I've never said yes to Jesus.
I've never invited him to myheart.
I've gone to church, but I'venever invited Jesus into my

(01:00:28):
heart.
I've never had a true encounterwith the one.
He is the one.
He said, I am the way, thetruth, and the life.
No man can come unto the Fatherunless it comes through Jesus,
the one.
And he wants to be in yourheart.
He wants to live inside of you.
He wants to drive the car ofyour life.

(01:00:52):
Come on, somebody.
He wants to be everything thatyou can even imagine he wants to
be to you.
All you have to do is say yes tohim.
I want to invite you to Jesus.
I want to invite you to Jesustonight.
I want to invite you to thekingdom of God tonight.
I'm not inviting you to achurch.
I'm inviting you to Jesus.
I want you right now, if I'mtalking to you, I want you just

(01:01:13):
to say this prayer out loud.
Say, Lord Jesus, Lord Jesus,come into my heart.
Come into my heart.
Forgive me of my sin.
Forgive me of my sins.
I repent.
I repent.
I turn away from my wicked ways.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:29):
I turn away from my wicked ways.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:31):
Lord Jesus.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:33):
Lord Jesus.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:34):
I need you.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:35):
I need you.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:36):
I'm hurting.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:37):
I'm hurting.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:38):
I'm desperate.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:40):
I'm desperate.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:41):
I need to be filled.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:43):
I need to be filled.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:44):
And I say, Lord Jesus.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:46):
Lord Jesus.
Take the will of my life.
Take the wheel of my life.
I have messed up.
I have messed up.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:53):
I don't know which direction to go.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:55):
I don't know which direction to go.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:57):
I need you now.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:58):
I need you now.

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:00):
And say, I believe.
I believe that God raised Jesus.

SPEAKER_01 (01:02:06):
Raised Jesus.

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:07):
From the dead.

SPEAKER_01 (01:02:08):
From the dead.

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:09):
And I know today.

SPEAKER_01 (01:02:10):
And I know today.

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:11):
That I am saved.

SPEAKER_01 (01:02:13):
That I am saved.

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:14):
I am filled.
I am filled.
And I am free.
And I am free.
Oh, it makes me feel so good tobe free.
You ought to just go ahead andshout.
Come on, somebody.
Hallelujah.
Yeah.
For your freedom.
Hallelujah.
For your salvation.
Shout because you have comehome.

(01:02:34):
Let me tell you something.
There's a row waiting on you.
Come on.
There's a ring waiting on you.
Come on, somebody.
Come on.
We have some meat to serve you.
Come on, we get ready to have aparty.
Yes.
Because you have come home, mybrother and my sister.
Welcome home.
Welcome to the family of God.
Hallelujah.
Hallelujah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:02:54):
Oh, that is so good.
That is so good.
Overseer, my covenant brother,always, and I mean that, always,
an honor and a privilege to talkwith you.
I am feeling just as edified asI've been given out.
And uh so appreciate your wisdomand uh your revelation and your
anointing.
Ladies and gentlemen, if you'reanywhere in the Tampa area, go

(01:03:14):
down and check him out.
He's gonna be here in PittsburghOctober 16th, ministering live.
And we have a live studioaudience.
If you want to come and checkhim out, all you got to do is go
to ctbn.org, call in, let themknow you want to be part of our
live studio audience.
David Binion is going to bethere that night as well.
If David and Nicole Benion, he'sgonna be there leading worship.

(01:03:37):
It's gonna be an awesome time.
Overseer, God bless you, man.
I so appreciate you and loveyou, your family, your ministry.
Love you more, man.
You're welcome back anytime hereat Dimensions or another level
wherever I'm at.
Always good to be.

SPEAKER_00 (01:03:50):
I love you, my brother.
You know that, man.
Thanks for having me.
Always a blessing.

SPEAKER_01 (01:03:54):
Amen.
Be well, brother.

SPEAKER_00 (01:03:56):
You too, my brother.

SPEAKER_01 (01:03:57):
God bless you.
Amen.
Well, ladies and gentlemen, Ihope that you are blessed by
today's episode of Dimensions.
And truly, you should have hadan encounter today.
And uh I pray that you will takethese words that we have shared,
that you'll take them into yourheart, that you will subscribe
to our podcast, that you will uhshare this with others and get

(01:04:18):
the word out, because that's whyDimensions exist.
It's just to be edification toyou, to be a blessing to you.
And I know it's Friday.
So listen, y'all are gonna haveto go through the weekend, go
back and listen to some otherthings.
But Monday, 8 30 p.m., your boywill be right back here, holding
up the light of God's word,keeping my oil tank full, loving

(01:04:41):
my heart, sending loving out ofmy life.
You do the same.
Get into church this weekend,and I'll see you next Monday at
830 p.m.
right here on Dimensions.

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