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July 15, 2021 60 mins

The idea of dismantling racism can be overwhelming and complicated. The sudden attention to the topic in 2020 stopped some people in their tracks. Fear, doubt, shame, and guilt were just a few of the emotions that surfaced, especially for people who already believed that they “treated all people the same.” How do we move people from overwhelm to action? We answer some of this question and more in our next episode of Dismantle Racism.

Join Rev. Dr. TLC as she talks with Jeannie Spiro, Business Coach and Strategist, about the steps she’s taken to engage in the work of dismantling racism. Jeannie will share how she became more intentional in her actions both personally and professionally. Listen in as she describes the emotions, insights, and self-reflections that have helped her to become more racially conscious and how her transformation changed her thinking and actions.


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Show Notes

Segment 1

The first segment opens with Rev Dr Terrlyn reintroducing the show and today's guest. On today's show we welcome Jeannie Spiro, business coach and strategist, as she talks about the steps she's taken to engage in the work of dismantling racism. Jeannie will share how she became more intentional in her actions both personally and professionally. Listen in as she describes the emotions, insights, and self-reflections that have helped her to become more racially conscious and how her transformation changed her thinking and actions. Jeannie and Rev Dr Terrlyn discuss their very connected past in the work of dismantling racism. Rev Dr Terrlyn says in order to manifest our greatness we need to become connected to the sacred. Whatever that may be for you. Jeannie affirms Rev Dr Terrlyn’s findings and says that was the biggest obstacle for her to overcome when trying to empower herself to do more in the work of dismantling racism.

Segment 2

The second segment starts with the show coming back up from break. Rev Dr Terrlyn brings the conversation to Jeannie’s initial response to the riots and muder of George Floyd last summer. Jeannie says she took a break from social media to reflect on her own personal role in activism. Jeannie explains that the first step was examining her own inclusivity in her life and business. She then went to Rev Dr Terrlyn for guidance and advice on what she could be doing in her life to apply her skills in business to become a true activist. Rev Dr Terrlyn says it all begins with a conversation. Asking yourself what we could be doing in our business and communities.

Segment 3

The third segment starts with the show coming back up from break. The conversation gets picked up with Jeannie discussing the time she took to self reflect. She brings questions up like who are you hanging out with?, what people do you talk to?, are you truly being inclusive?. Rev Dr Terrlyn says that we have to understand that dismantling racism isn't about going out and marching the streets everyday. Sometimes it's just a conversation. A conversation with your peers, forcing the uncomfortable to become comfortable. Making the normal topic of conversation being held about race and understanding the other.

Segment 4

The final segment starts with a conversation about what Jeannie has learned in her efforts to dismantle racism. Jeannie says that one of the things she has learned is to become connected and aware of women of color business owners. Jeannie says that this unconscious bias was a big obst

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