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October 27, 2025 14 mins

Fog curls over jagged granite and the tide keeps its own secrets—Maine feels like a place where myth, memory, and menace overlap. We head straight for that seam, weaving the state’s stark coastline and Wabanaki dawns into a guided tour of folklore, and true crime. Along the way we reckon with names that linger in the record—Mary Cohen, Constance Margaret Fisher, Malcolm Robbins Jr.—and the ways geography, isolation, and community pressure turn ordinary towns into pressure cookers. Then we pivot to the most improbable nexus of all...

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SPEAKER_01 (00:00):
Along the jagged granite coastlines of the
uppermost eastern shores ofNorth America lies a realm of
mystery and wonder.
In its remote corners, the windwhispers secrets through ancient
pines and crashing waves echowith untold stories.
For centuries, the Algonquinpeoples called this land the

(00:21):
Wabanaki, or land of firstlight, for it's here that the
dawn first breaks as each daybegins anew.
Since man first tread thisground, for those who live here,
is a quietly whisperedunderstanding that this is a
thin place.
That is to say, a place wherethe veil between this world and
the next is at its thinnest.

(00:44):
Though not geographically thecenter of anything, this mist
blanketed land is neverthelessthe heart of unspoken folklore
and unnamed myths.
Man first settled its groundsmore than ten millennia ago, not
to be visited again a thousandyears past, then again centuries

(01:04):
hence.
Though many speculate, no onereally knows the origin of the
name, we call it today.
But for nearly 400 years, thiscountry of strange dark beauty
has poetically been known asMaine.
Far from an ordered patchwork ofbeaches, Maine's jagged
coastline is instead a3,500-mile fractal riot of

(01:27):
darkened corners and serratededges.
There are no smooth, cleantransitions from land to water,
from the shore to nearly 5,000scattered rocky isles that
inhabit nearby waters as ifthey're mimicking its inland
forests.
The coast morphs breathtakinglyfrom estuaries and white sandy
beaches from the south tognarled, scowling cliffs down

(01:48):
east.
When traversing the seeminglyunending nooks and crannies of
awe-inspiring scapes, the end ofthe land tends to come abruptly.
Forests and fields breaksuddenly and dramatically into
the sea.
Thrusting upward and outwardfrom the nation's foremost edge,
Maine extends like a torchwielded by the United States of

(02:09):
America, though it shares only asingle border with another
state.
It boasts a population in thebottom quarter, yet all other
New England states could fit inits borders.
Children and families are knownto combine twigs, leaves, pieces
of shells, and stones to makesmall homes for woodland fairies
who may or may not visit.

(02:30):
Many have a pet cemetery.
Maine's eerie nature and ancienthistory have appeared
prominently in modern folklore,likely for all of those reasons,
whether they be true tales ofmurder, legends of
cryptozoology, or fictionalaccounts of horror.

The question remains (02:46):
does Maine's nature draw one who
participates in such things toit, or does Maine inspire those
who live in it?
A Penobscot County woman namedMary Cohen, over the course of a
decade in the 1880s and 1890s,allegedly fatally poisoned six
members of her own family.
Though it's possible othersexisted before her, she was

(03:08):
likely Maine's first, certainlydeadliest, serial killer.
Constance Margaret Fisher wasdiagnosed with paranoid
schizophrenia.
She killed three of her childrenin Maine in 1954, and after
spending several years in amental institution, she was
released, only to kill threemore of her children in 1966.

(03:31):
Deemed unfit to stay in trial,she was hospitalized in the
Augusta State Hospital, fromwhere she managed to escape in
1973, but died in an accidentshortly afterwards.
John Jobert IV was executed inNebraska in 1996.
He was convicted of murderingthree boys, one in Maine, and

(03:51):
two in the state in which hewould be murdered.
Maine's Malcolm Robbins Jr.
was a sex offender, convicted ofraping and murdering at least
three young boys and oneteenager in four different
states from 1979 to 1980.
He was convicted and sentencedto death in California, where he
remained on death row until hedied in 2023.

(04:15):
Arthur Schockross, also known asthe Genesee River Killer, was
active in Rochester, New Yorkbetween 1972 and 1989.
Schockross's first known murderstook place in his hometown of
Watertown, New York, where hekilled a young boy and a girl.
Under the terms of a pleabargain, he was allowed to plead
guilty to one charge ofmanslaughter for which he served

(04:36):
14 years of a 25-year sentence.
Schockross killed most of hisvictims from 88 to 89 after
being granted an early parole,which later led to controversy.
A food service worker, hetrawled the streets of Rochester
in his girlfriend's car lookingfor prostitutes to kill.
He died in November 2008 whileserving a sentence of 250 years

(04:57):
for his crimes.
Richard Steeds.
From 1965 to 1966, he killedfive people in three states,
crimes for which he was tried,but ultimately found not guilty
by reason of insanity.
He spent over a decade in mentalhospitals before his eventual
release.
Arrested for the murder of hisneighbor in Maine.

(05:20):
For that crime, he was convictedand sentenced to life in prison.
Maine's Hattie Livermore Wittenpoisoned her husband and two
daughters in the early 20thcentury.
She was arrested after attendingher daughter's funeral.
She subsequently hanged herselfwhile in custody and was never
put on trial for her crimes.

(05:41):
Author Stephen King set many ofhis novels in Maine, ostensibly
for a reason.
Stories like Pet Cemetery,Salem's Lot, Carrie Cujo, Bag of
Bones, Different Seasons,Dreamcatcher, Dolores Claiborne,
It, and many more.
They were all set in thismysterious land, not counting

(06:01):
novellas and short stories, ofcourse.
But the deadliest character tohaunt the dark corners of Maine
doesn't hail from Derry, CastleRock, or Hobbs End.
The most perilous and darkestcorner of a small town in Maine
is a quaint little-knowncommunity called Cabot Cove.
There lives a fiction writer bythe name of Jessica Fletcher.

(06:24):
In crime fiction and true crimecircles, she's a bit of a
legend, an Agatha Christie type.
A prolific writer of murdermysteries, Fletcher's well known
for her ingenious crafting ofplot and narrative, though few
in her world know that she'salso known as a supposed solver
of crime.
Everywhere she goes, sheseemingly solves a murder on

(06:46):
demand.
Understandably, based on herlogical mind, a modern Miss
Marple, if you will.
Yet one must wonder, everywhereJessica Fletcher travels, every
event she attends, a murderoccurs, and there she is to
expose the plot.
Not to say that Jessica wascomplicit with any murder at any

(07:06):
point.
No, I think it's far moreexistential than that.
There were 264 episodes in the12-season series, a total body
count of 286, even though thereare debates, if you look online,
of exactly how many murdersthere were.
Were they all to take place inCabot Cove, it gives an annual
murder rate of 1,490 permillion, more than 50% higher

(07:31):
than Honduras, where it's 910per million.
In the last two years alone, athousand women have been
murdered in Honduras, and nearly90% of them were never
investigated.
And Cabot Cove was even furtherahead of El Salvador, a country
which recently celebrated aunique milestone, its first day
in three years where no one wasmurdered.

(07:53):
Around five people were murderedin the fictional coastal spot
every year, according to BBCRadio 4's, more or less.
ITV detective series MidsummerMurders also had an
exceptionally high murder rate,on par with Chile and Latvia.
Researchers working out thefigures assumed the county of
Midsummer, where the action wasset, would probably have a

(08:16):
similar population to the sizeof Oxfordshire, where it was
filmed.
Using the above populationestimates and the average of
nearly 5.3 murders in Cabot Co.,we can recalculate a more
realistic or accurate murderrate for the fictional town.
If we take the high-endestimated population of
Provincetown, 60,000 or so, thenthe 5.3 murders per year is

(08:40):
equivalent to 9 murders per100,000.
The 9 murders per 100,000 is inline with the average U.S.
murder rate during the show'srun in the late 80s and early
90s, a rate of about 29 per100,000.
On the other hand, it doesn'teven approach the murder rate of
certain areas like Baltimore,Detroit, New Orleans, or St.

(09:02):
Louis, all of which currentlyhave a rate of over 40 per
100,000.
Of those episodes, 54 of themwere based in Cabot Cove itself,
and an additional four or sowere included in substantive
scenes in Cabot Cove, but weremostly based elsewhere.
For example, the season 8premiere, which starts there but
then moves to New York City.

(09:24):
So roughly 5 Cabot Cove episodesper season, not including the
bookend episodes, where Jessicaonly introduced and closed out
the episodes from her home.
By actual calculation, themurder she wrote Body Count hit
286 over 264 episodes in 12years.
There were 64 murders in thetiny town of Cabot Cove alone,

(09:45):
living growth, and surelyplaying havoc with the highway
sign listing the village'spopulation.
The 286th victim was bludgeonedby a fireplace poker as the
series closes shop and retiresas the longest-running detective
series in TV history.
And much like the Mothman ofPoint Pleasant, Jessica Fletcher

(10:05):
will always be known as aportent of things to come.
As a warning, a symbol, aharbinger of death.

SPEAKER_00 (10:14):
I buy it.
Makes sense to me.
I love it.
It's funny because I didn't knowwhere you were going with this,
so I was like, ooh, I'm gonnalook up stuff in Maine.
I found a weird behaviormodification program,
therapeutic boarding school inMaine called the Elon School,
where it had multiple murders,truly torturous conditions,
children fight club rings,really messed up stuff.

(10:37):
And then I was looking into thePalmyra Maine werewolves, where
like this group of wolfcreatures were attacking and
tormenting this family untildawn one day.
But none of those are nearly asdeadly as murder she wrote.
Is she like a force of nature?
Is she like a paranormal entitythat has taken on, you know,

(10:58):
like like a demon is workingthrough her to bring souls to
Hades?

SPEAKER_01 (11:04):
I mean, it's a good question.
I mean, which is cause, which iseffect?
And it's not like they're likethe mockmen where it's
unrelated.
She actually actively solves themysteries themselves.

SPEAKER_00 (11:16):
Okay, so we have A cause, B, Harbinger, C,
rectifier.
Interesting.
Yeah, I mean but it what wouldthose people be?
Is she there because there's somany deaths and so she has to
adjudicate justice?
Or is she there because she iskilling these innocent people

(11:40):
and just bringing about moremisery?
It's kind of like a twofoldthing.
So one, you get the misery withthe death, and you also get the
misery of the people around thekiller and the killer
themselves.
That's not that's a twofer,really.

SPEAKER_01 (11:53):
Well, right, now because the question is she
attracted to potential misery oror these types of events because
she feeds off of it to how shereplenes replenishes her her
energy, or is it possible thatshe, like you said, causes them
so that she can feed off of thisthis sorrow and pain and
tragedy?

(12:13):
Oh man, it's like Dexter meetsher cool poor.
And maybe a little supernatural.
Not the show, just in general.
Or maybe she's set all of theseup herself just so that she can
solve them.
She'd have to trip upeventually.
Yeah, you would think so.
But I mean, maybe that's wherethe supernatural element fits
in.

SPEAKER_00 (12:33):
I think supernormal abilities, a connection to the
otherworldly makes more sense.

SPEAKER_01 (12:39):
Yeah, you're right, because she would eventually
make a mistake, or somebodywould just kind of you know put
two and two together that likeSuperman and Clark can't
eventually somebody's gonnafigure out, you know, that it's
not just coincidence.
Yeah.
It just does beg the questionwhich created which.
The Batman villain's conundrum,correlation versus causation.
I mean, maybe she is a Batmanvillain.

(13:00):
You know what I mean?
Perhaps she truly is afundamental force of the fabric
of the universe.

SPEAKER_00 (13:07):
Truly a baffling conundrum.

SPEAKER_01 (13:10):
But in any event, it is safe to say that Jessica
Fletcher is the harpinger ofdeath.
The one, the only.
And you think eventually peoplewould just stop inviting her to
things, you know?
Yeah, don't tell her.
Well, we would like to thank youfor once again for tuning in to
the latest episode in ourinstallment of Halloween, spooky

(13:33):
horror, and geeky scary things.
I guess.
Uh try to put in as many new,interesting ones this year as we
could since we didn't have anoverarching theme like we
normally do.
So we just thought we'd do somereally fun deep dives.
Thank you for liking andsubscribing.
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Podcasts or the Podcatcher ofyour choice.
And Jake, what should they dountil next time?

SPEAKER_00 (14:00):
Well, make sure to tip your murder novelist, your
spirits of vengeance, yourmagician, your undertaker, your
hangman, your tall man, yourcandyman, your pumpkin head,
your penhead, or your severedhead.
Oh, and don't forget your localcomic shops and retailers.
And until next time, Godspeed.
Fair Wizards.
Please go away.
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